Thinking Right

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

April 10, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

Hi Jim,

It’s funny that you should mention such a lofty goal for conservatives.

Because, in practice, what conservatives have been doing is rigging the game in their favor to ensure that they get as much money to themselves and their friends as quickly as possible, before the general public wakes up.

And if it means wrapping themselves up in a flag and holding a bible to cover up their lies, they’ll do it.

You and Newt can keep talking all this blue sky about “conservatism”, but Republicans are just as corrupt, if not more so, than any other politician out there.

It’s unfortunate that you’re not smart enought to see that.

By deegee

April 10, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

Oh, this is priceless. Here’s a link to an article produced by Jim’s own AJC that shows alot of conservative self-reliance on the part of the Georgia legislature. Here’s the first paragraph:

Georgia House leaders decided to put off major tax reform this year, but lawmakers have agreed to dole out nearly $100 million in tax breaks to companies, individuals and hometown projects.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2007/04/09/0410metlegtax.html

By Dusty

April 10, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Jim’s a Cherry Picker..

You are so prejudiced against conservatives that you have to present your fabrications right here. How exactly have conservatives “rigged the game” to get money for themselves? I’d like to know because I haven’t gotten any and nobody I know has either.

And “wrapping themselves up in a flag”?? You really mean that showing some patriotism is objectional to you. What flag do you wrap yourself in? A white one?

Then you had to take a jab at the Bible. Don’t you think it would be kinda nice to mind your own business about someone’s religion? Obviously, no one has forced any “religion” on you.

Our government is based on Christian principles which means it has ethical standards. I am sorry you disapprove of anything conservative, but your bigoted imagination is running away with you. Try to be a little more accurate in your thinking.

By WFC

April 10, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

Conservatives are inconsistent. I consider myself a conservative on many issues but I can’t understand why many conservatives are only too willing to spend billions on causes they think are appropriate (the war in Iraq) and then begrudge much smaller expenditures on causes (Peachcare) that don’t fit their world view. I’m also a big supporter of the HOPE scholarship even though it has some problems because it gives a lot of students a chance to improve themselves. However, I’ve saved $50,000 for my son’s college education. That wasn’t easy for a now retired high school teacher. I fully agree that parents shoulder (or should) the responsibility for their children. I believe that children born out of wedlock (or with absent fathers) create many problems for society. However, I’m not willing to condemn these choldren to misery just because they have stupid and ignorant parents. Am I a conservative?

By Barbara

April 10, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

Hi Jim. I agree with you on the “welfare-like” programs, such as PeachCare, but I believe the lottery profits are what fund the HOPE scholarships. The state did not have the lottery at one time, and the taxpayers voted the lottery in with the expectation that the profits would fund public education. I don’t think the HOPE belongs in the category with PeachCare.

I don’t think your article goes far enough either. PeachCare is not the only social program that needs reform. All State and federal funded welfare-like programs could do with a good audit. And people should have to continue to qualify in order to continue receiving benefits. There should be realistic time limits on benefits, and folks should have to show proof of a) citizenship; b) that they are seriously looking for a job; c) that they are not on illegal drugs (through the use of drug tests on a regular basis); and d) that they are not continuing to make bad choices, like having more babies.

I find it hard to believe that someone would give up a $42K job just to get free medical care, but as you say, we can’t understand the choices people make. My guess is that there is more to that story, like perhaps a serious illness that requires expensive medical treatment, or no job really there, just the potential for one. I do know that some churches don’t offer the preacher any medical care, but in most cases the preacher can get medical care through some avenue other than having to buy individual coverage. I’m not really sure I buy this particular example…..

By Dusty

April 10, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

WFC,

I don’t consider the war in Iraq as a “cause”. Perhaps you consider our troops as Boy Scouts and not a cause that you can support. Whatever the reasons for going to war, it is not difficult to see that Iraqis want freedom just like everybody else. I can also see that terrorists would thrive in a Middle East country in disarray. Don’t forget their goal is to destroy America.

If you had rather spend money on a family making $42,000 instead of your country’s efforts at protecting all of us in the long run, then you are not a conservative. You are a wishy washy liberal too weak to support your country in war time.

By JP

April 10, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

Dusty:

How exactly have conservatives “rigged the game” to get money for themselves?

How about starting with the “Death tax” and capital-gains taxes—both provide an insignificant benefit to those of moderate means, while providing great benefit to those with significant means.

And “wrapping themselves up in a flag”?? You really mean that showing some patriotism is objectional to you. What flag do you wrap yourself in? A white one?

Why is it that our President can’t give a speech without dragging a handful of soldiers along to be props? Did you notice that the last Republican convention was scheduled in NYC as close as possible to the anniversary of 9/11? THAT is what wrapping oneself in the flag looks like.

Then you had to take a jab at the Bible. Don’t you think it would be kinda nice to mind your own business about someone’s religion? Obviously, no one has forced any “religion” on you.

But if someone were to advocate tolerance for Islam, I’m wondering if you’d take the same approach?

Our government is based on Christian principles which means it has ethical standards.

So pre-emptive war is a Christian value? I thought Jesus said “turn the other cheek”—or did I read the wrong Bible?

By jbmlaw

April 10, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I think the deception in government programs such as PeachCare and Hope and public housing is that the biggest beneficiaries are not the citizens who embrace the government subsidies, but those who actually receive the monies flowing from the taxpayer – the medical cartel, the educrats, and the real estate developers. The government programs act an income-protectors for those industries. By thus compelling the taxpayer to subsidize the market, overall costs soar – a demand-driven inflation. If there is no cost, demand may be infinite; the disruption of the market is the intellectual flaw in government spending programs. Market discipline works, but only when it is tried.

By deegee

April 10, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

When the topic is fiscal self-reliance then HOPE absolutely belongs in the same category as PeachCare. It’s a transfer of money from one group to another. Generally speaking, low-income people dream of getting rich by playing the lottery. Middle and upper income people receive the benefit in the form of college tuition subsidies. Let’s have means testing for HOPE scholarship recipients and then have a discussion about conservative self-reliance.

By Steve Wills

April 10, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Healthcare is too expensive for any country or economic system. Forget heatlthcare, and eat an apple once in a while. You’ll be fine. Now can we get the extra hundred billions for Iraq?

By jbmlaw

April 10, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

Dear WFC @ 8:54, if I may add to the thoughts of my friend Dusty, Iraq and PeachCare are different. There are three things the government does better than the free market: (1) kill people, (2) deprive people of freedom, and (3) steal wealth. It does nothing else competently, certainly not as well as the market. The case you have to make for Peachcare is that we require government theft from taxpayers to fund the salaries of medical personnel so they will treat people who will not pay medical bills otherwise. There is nothing noble in that.

By harold

April 10, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

this is getting as bad as technobuddy: mention something somebody else wrote and try to get people posting about it

so if you want to end welfare, privatize roads and make the users pay directly. Roads Welfare is $billions upon $billions just here in metro Atlanta

stick a barcode in everyone window and collect a toll at every intersection.

no more Roads Welfare!

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

Mr Wooten writes: “I cannot possibly know, nor can any journalist present in a single story, the reasons people make the choices they do. So I’m not here to judge the choices the family made.”

Tut tut, Jim. Why do you shrink from your obligation to point out that the shirkers and profligate breeders are lesser-than creatures who deserve our scorn and contempt? These out-of-wedlock baby factories who fornicate solely because they know they will have access to PeachCare and an extra $78.59 per month per spawn would clamp those legs shut in a New York minute if only we would remove these incentives to immorality.

Thank God we have the shining example of Mary Cheney. Despite the absence of a husband, not only did she NOT elect the convenience of an abortion when she found herself pregnant after undergoing the rigors of artifical insemination, but she is also NOT going to burden society by drawing on these social programs to support her ba$tard child. This is a self-reliant woman who works for a living. (Though I am concerned that her child will likely turn out a violent criminal because of the time it will have to spend in day care. It would be better if she would just get married. I wonder why she has not?)

If only there were more Godly women like her (only without so much of that Satanic donut bumping), our Nation Under God would not be suffering such an embarassment of helpless fornicating and homosex deviance.

By Jack Worley

April 10, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

One aspirin can cost 450 dollars in a healthcare situation, if there’s enough golf players, I mean doctors in the room and they happen to argue a little bit about it: “He’s got the mumps”—-“No, he’s got chicken pox”——“You’re both wrong, he’s got munchausen, he’s faking this”——-“Give this man an aspirin, and have him call my nurse in the morning.”———“Hey, what about my nurse?”———“I’ve seen your nurse. Now I need an aspirin!”——-“You idiot, now we have to charge this man for the aspirin and for the enema I have to give my nurse.”——-“Just how much KY Jelly do you go through in a day, doctor?”———“So what?”——-“Yeah, so what”

Postscript: The doctors went on to become wealthy (and oversexed), and the poor sod never got his aspirin; instead, he got an unnecessary enema which killed him, at taxpayer’s expense. ($34K)

Author’s note- Throw in a simultaneous radio broadcasted Imus insult to all black americans and you’ve got the hell we all are so priveledged to live in right here in the good ol’ USA.

By WFC

April 10, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

I agree with strict audits of government spending. Let’s start with spending in Iraq and see who is getting rich off the blood of our brave troops. Am I a conservative?

By time for the truth

April 10, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

It was kind a fun goading that sad anal CNN wanker yesterday into puking up two pathetic meaningless hissy fits. At least it attempted to pretend to know something about what so many ignorant mouthy yankkkees witlessly dismiss as just being England. Smugly forgetting that its actually the United Kingdom!

Happily a major very negative story is about to hit the venal greedy anti-American anti-semitic lying Arkansas rapist and its lying shrill feminazi partner. The rapist has had its snout deep in the U.A.E. trough for several years now and in the UAE, funded in Sick Sillie’s utterly disgraced name, a foundation at the American University in the UAE that stipulates that NO money or funding be given to any jewish or Israeli students. Bet Sick Willie wouldn’t dare do this in New Yaaawk City!!!

How to Sell Anti-Semites: The legitimization of Dubai

by Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

THE past few years have seen a concerted international PR campaign to promote Dubai as a tolerant new Mecca of Middle East moderation and amazing economic growth.

And it’s working. Corporate giant Halliburton is moving its headquarters there; the famed Louvre is opening a branch in the emirate. Tourists are flocking to Dubai’s luxury hotels.

But don’t be fooled. Dubai, which is one of the seven princedoms of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), is anything but tolerant and progressive.

To put it bluntly: They don’t like Jews.

In fact, Dubai, like the rest of the UAE, is blatantly anti-Semitic. It bars all Israeli citizens from ever setting foot in the country. People from other nations whose passport have stamps indicating they’ve even visited Israel must notify Dubai immigration authorities of the stamp before entering.

Dubai is also actively involved in the Arab boycott of Israel: It bans all products made in Israel and even ones with parts made in Israel.

But the emir of Dubai, Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, understands the value of using prominent Americans to legitimize his country and burnish its image in the American media.

That’s why former Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton have been the objects of Dubai largesse. Their Dubai friends have given millions to each of their presidential libraries. And Bill Clinton has raked in more than $1 million for speeches he’s given in Dubai and the UAE.

Dubai’s PR machine went into high gear after 9/11 - in part to distract attention from the extensive use the terrorists made of the emirate. More than half of the hijackers traveled to the United States via Dubai. The 9/11 Commission noted that $234,500 of the $300,000 wired to the hijackers and plot leaders in America came via Dubai banks.

Several months after 9/11, Dubai’s newest best friend began his public association with the country. In January 2002, Bill Clinton gave his first Dubai speech (for $300,000). He’ been legitimizing the country ever since.

Clinton was the rainmaker who introduced the emir to his friend and employer, Ron Berkle, the owner of Yucaipa companies and a major fund-raiser for Bill and Hillary.

Last year, Yucaipa and the emir formed a new company, DIGL, for their joint ventures. So Bill Clinton is now an adviser and member of the board of directors of a company that is in partnership with the anti-Israeli government of Dubai.

The Clintons won’t reveal how much the former president pocketed for setting up this deal, except to report on Hillary’s Senate disclosure form: “more than $1,000.”

A lot more. According to San Francisco Examiner columnist P.J. Corkery, Clinton makes $10 million a year from Yucaipa.

Bill isn’t alone in legitimizing Dubai. Other Clinton pals - including disgraced former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, ex-Secretary of State Madeline Albright and Al and Tipper Gore - have attended highly publicized events there.

So have some Republicans - including former Bush Sr. Chief of Staff John Sununu, presidential brother Neal Bush and Rudy Guiliani.

Republican ex-Sen. Bob Dole and Democratic ex-Rep. Tom Downey lobby for Dubai; so does The Glover Park Group, home of Hillary Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson and former President Clinton press secretary Joe Lockhart.

Major U.S. business leaders populate the many conferences sponsored by Dubai and its industries.

All of this helps legitimize Dubai. And no one mentions the problem with Israel.

Bill Clinton even created a Dubai Scholars Program at the American University in Dubai under the sponsorship of the William Jefferson Clinton Foundation. Laura Tyson, Clinton’s chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, created a similar Dubai study program at the University of London.

But not everyone is blind.

Last month, the University of Connecticut correctly abandoned plans to open up a campus in Dubai after serious complaints about Dubai’s state-imposed discrimination of people based on their national origin and religion and its documented violations of human rights. (For example, Human Rights Watch has said Dubai abuses tens of thousands of migrant workers from India and Pakistan.)

The Clinton Foundation certainly wouldn’t sponsor a program in America that banned Israeli students. It shouldn’t sponsor one in Dubai, either.

It’s time to stop legitimizing an anti-Semitic state.

Proof positive that the illegal mexican type infestation is frequently killing innocent Americans - the article below highlights just a dozen or so such incidents of illegals killing one or more Americans with their cars. The stats on this are hard to nail down because of the despicable cowardly LIBERAL policy of sanctuary cities which prevents criminal illegals even being questioned, let alone dealt with by authorities. Virginia Beach being the latest outrage when some slimy Mexican illegal - an already three time convicted criminal -killed two teenage girls. These cases are just the tip of an illegal killing spree. North Carolina actually collects stats for crimes committed by illegals - but Kalifornia and New Yaaawk et al do NOT … not wanting to show their legal citizens just how bad the illegal crime wave and illegal DUI death stats are!!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55078

TIME TO ROUND THEM UP AND KICK THEM ALL OUT!!

Bush’s joke of press conference in AZ yesterday was sickening … a weak lame going through the motions gesture thta had all the gravitas and depth of a Pelosibitch grandstanding meeting in terrorist supporting Damascus. Bush … just like Sick Willie gleefully and sickeningly did … has completely failed the American people on the border issue and Americans are dying at the hands of these illegal scumbags and Bush and his fellow liberal panderering illegal lovers could care less.

By Barbara

April 10, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Oh, Captain my love, are you saying that you don’t believe that those on public assistance don’t have another baby because of the extra benefits? I have a sister-in-law who works for the system and has told me countless stories of that very motive. It really does happen…. and often. Having children is not a right; it’s a responsibility. And if you can’t afford them, then you should not have them. You know I love you, but I have to call you out on this point.

By Van

April 10, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Jack Worley,

I wonder how much that asprin would cost without the reams of paperwork the Health care and government require?

By jm

April 10, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

tftt@10:12 - the fact that Bill Clinton is getting money from the UAE (and Japan and China) is old news. It was no secret that he was lobbying for the Dubai ports deal.

Also, it is no secret that the Bush family and Jim Baker are getting money from the Saudis and the UAE as well. Shoot, even the Sainted Ronald Reagan accepted money from overseas.

What is amazing is that people are shocked when ex-Presidents (and other ex government employees) attempt to cash in.

By getalife

April 10, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Ah, the welfare arugment.

Americans = bad.

Iraq, corporate = great.

Geez.

By Jack Worley

April 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Reams of paperwork? Now THAT’S taking an enema too far.

By jm

April 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Maybe self-reliance would be easier if companies like Walmart did not use programs like PeachCare to reduce employee health benefits. That and the practice of designating employees as part-timers (making them ineligible for benefits).

By Jack

April 10, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

“helpless fornicating”

Good one Capt.

By time for the truth

April 10, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

jm

It isn’t elite American snouts in the UAE trough that I agree is kind of old news now that will hurt the Clintonbitch but the fact that her venal rapist hubby has set up this foundation that bans jews from receiving any help from it. Not that jews would be dumb enough to even try to go to Dubai … its the racism/anti-semitism stupid … once the media picks up on this it will hurt the Clintons with their money making from misguided wealthy liberal proles and disgust ordinary Americans who have sadly not yet heard about the rapists’s blatant racism!!

I note you are predicktably silent on the matter of greasy illegals killing Americans on the roads when the already convicted illegals should have already been deported!!!

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

You trustfund babies Kill me.. I would love to see most of you as the stock market crashed and later found out you were broke. Instead of rebuilding and surviving, most of you would be jumping out of windows. Speaking of what Jesus would do.. He would help thy neighbor, but your greed and corruption knows no bounds. Most of you are going to hell for distorting the Bible and listening to a rich man tell you what a christian should be.

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

It’s true TFTT. The poor child who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant is twice as dead as one who is killed by a drunken American. And the parents’ grief must be trebled in the face of this wetback’s tequila-fueled murder spree. How much better if the child had been killed by a one of his own kind.

Where is the outrage?? Thank God we have stalwart, moral Heritage Minded Christian Men like O’Reilly and TFTT to point out to us the truly significant matters of the day.

And also, the article TFTT posted is from an unimpeachable source, The World Nut Daily. It is as reliable as TFTT is understated.

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Sorry, I mistyped. That source is World Net Daily.

Don’t know how that could have happened. Mea culpa.

By lovelyliz

April 10, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Isn’t it interesting that neo-cons want to cut funding for programs that assist the most vulnerable (i.e. children), but have no problems with programs and tax breaks that benefit the wealthiest?

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Oh, lovelyLEZ, you misguided pinko America-hater.

The ‘benefits’ (as you so communistically call them) to the wealthy are in fact specifically-targeted incentives to lubricate the burgeoning economy. Every tax break to one of those you call “the wealthy” — and who I call entrepreneurs and Captains of Industry — is directly responsible for the creation of dozens, if not thousands, of decent paying jobs for ill-educated Islamunists like yourself, people who expect PeachCare to pick up the tab for the outcomes of your degenerate lifestyle.

Benefits and giveaways to children — especially the spawn of Those People — never resulted in the creation of a single job. How many toddler CEOs do you know, Miss Smarty? Exactly.

Relieving the suffering of a sick child never created a single job or increased tax revenues one iota. It simply does not stand up to sober cost-benefit analysis.

By jm

April 10, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

ttft@10:29 - My view on illegal immigration is this, “follow the money”. If the economic incentive to hire illegals is reduced or eliminated, the reasons to cross the border will also be reduced or eliminated. While he is a bit on the fringe, Congressman Tancredo has some points worth considering regarding border security.

By lovelyliz

April 10, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Conservatives must cultivate self-reliance

Barry Goldwater: conservative

George W. Bush/Dick Cheney/Karl Rove: neo-conservatives

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Three cheers for Tom Tancredo. The Captain likes the cut of his jib.

Alas, there is little hope that this Mighty Minuteman will prevail. It seems the Republicans have embarked on inexplicable love affairs with a mobbed-up dago drag queen and a Taxachusets homoliberal from a fringe religious cult.

Alas, the man who loves Our Leader seems to have succumbed to senile dementia and is no longer a viable alternative to these faux-hunters and Friends of Friends of Dorothy.

Why, at this point, it seems possible that our next President could very well be either a Not-a-man person; one of Those People; or a known-queer trial lawyer (as the delightful and winsome Miss Coulter revealed). Clear signs of the impending apocalypse.

I blame profligate government entitlement spending. The horror.

By Truthsayer

April 10, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

There is no way to completely fix the illegal immigrant problem. However, one can go a long way toward doing just that buy arresting and fining and JAILING the employers who hire them, especially en masse. If one walked into the board room of a major meat packing company, for example, and arrested them after a big raid on one of the plants, then you might get some real action. If you cut off the demand by enhancing the penalty for breaking the law then the supply will dry up - third law of economics: the law of SELF INTEREST!

By Jack

April 10, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

More than 25 Americans are killed by drunk driving illegal immigrants every day. 1/3 of the prison populace are illegal immigrants. A man used to be able to support a family working as a carpenter but instead has to pay tax money so the children of these criminals can be educated and medicated.

Let’s just let them all in and give them voting rights and watch how fast California becomes part of Mexico.

By Dennis

April 10, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

I’ve just read your column, Mr. Wooten. “Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in His sight” - until it comes to money.

You know, and I know, that everyone who reaches for the golden apple doesn’t get it.

I’m nowhere near being filthy rich, but neither am I poor. But,a poor man works just as hard for his money as a rich man works for his.

As for your fear of “striking a balance that doesn’t entice the middle class into dependency”, that’s a slap in the face to middle class Americans, and I, for one, resent it.

Dennis

By William Hunter

April 10, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

My wife’s total bill for her radiation and chemotherapy and RX last year was $145K, all covered by our individual BlueCross healthcare plan which costs $750/month. Is that fair? Did she take personal responsibility? Or did she pass the buck to blue cross, and thus is a liberal leech and part of the problem?

By Truthsayer

April 10, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

For all of you alarmist out there, here are some words of wisdom by some people who are actually competent and informed on some of the major issues of our day. I know you love to be Chicken Littles. When this one is proved false, you will find another. Read and learn please:

A meteorology professor at the Massachusetts institute of Technology says there is no compelling evidence that global warming will lead to a catastrophe — and in fact might be beneficial.

Richard Lindzen writes in Newsweek: “Much of the alarm over climate change is based on ignorance of what is normal weather and climate. There is no evidence that extreme weather events are increasing…Indeed, meteorological theory holds that, outside the tropics, weather in a warming world should be less variable, which might be a good thing.”

Lindzen says most of the current alarm over climate change is based on what he calls “inherently untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately forecast the weather a week from now.”

Also this is too good to pass up. Al Gore really is the stupidest man in America!

Meanwhile, top hurricane forecaster William Gray of Colorado State University called Al Gore “a gross alarmist” during the closing speech of the National Hurricane Conference in New Orleans.

Gray says the recent increase in strong hurricanes is part of a natural cycle that has nothing to do with global warming. He says Gore is, “doing a great disservice and he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.”

By The Bootsrap Kid

April 10, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

TFTT - We all know youre a Faux News wHo-re, so you dont have to quote everything Bill O’Really or Shawn Handjobme tells you to..

By William Hunter

April 10, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

It’s the El Nino what baked our planet… .

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

Truthsayer,

Thank you for exposing the ignorant pseudo-science of global climate change. You are correct that the Chicken Little pantswetters of the left love to cower in fear from imaginary enemies.

The Captain has no need of this imaginary danger, as he knows the creeping Islamunistofacists are infiltrating every corner of our society daily. Some of these terrorist America-haters are even posing as illegal wetbacks and nappyheaded hos to throw us off the trail.

See what they have done to the Great American and Heritage Celbrating Christian Imus in the past week. Now there will be no stopping them.

I believe the illegal immigrant “drunk driving” death that has TFTT so worked up is in fact a test run for a more expanded, nation-wide terror attack where our beloved automobiles are turned into terror bombs. James Woods noticed several swarthy men driving in Hollywood several weeks ago, but the authorities continue to ignore this noble Patriot.

By time for the truth

April 10, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

jm

mostly agreed … however until ALL grasping illegal leeches and their kids are stopped from getting a penny in tax payer funded benefits they will continue to come and stay and leech …

I agree the employers need to be hammered legally - fined and imprisoned - with a strong, ever increasing chance of being caught employing/exploiting illegals. Bang up in the Billy Campbell, James Trafficant big house a couple of dozen small time contractors/house builders/chicken farm/farmers etc and a couple of dozen upper echelon corporate management types and the willingness to exploit/employ illegals will swiftly dissipate.

I note that the execrable Lance Korporal Syphilis despicably and unsurprisingly glibly and dishonestly twists the point about illegal DUI killers and the equally ignored greasy illegal child molestors!!

Sanctuary cities need to be denied all federal funding until they observe and apply US laws to illegals!!

San Fran Sicko needs to be kicked out of the USA immediately … I know its sadly impractical and not going to happen … but imagine how much fabulous fun it would be if we could could do this!!! The endless stuckpinkofaggotscreeching would be even worse than the racist screeching about the innocent Duke lads who were nearly lynched by a corrupt demoNcrat prosecutor who believed the vile cynical racist lies of a black whorlacious slag!! Now she is literally a nappy haired ho as Imus might put it!!

By William Hunter

April 10, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Nobody has any reliable data to determine atmospheric trends. If mean temperatures fluctuate, then there is no conclusion that can be drawn, other than our measurements indicate that they fluctuate.

If the ice caps are melting, then it should be too cold on Easter Sunday to have outdoor sunrise service because the melting ice sends cold water further south for longer periods of time and that cools things down locally even though the overall tempurature is rising…..DOH!

By lovelyliz

April 10, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Why is it that the burden of self reliance always seems to fall on the middle class?

When big corporations are lobbying the government for tax breaks, taxpayer funded benefits/projects and bail outs, shouldn’t they show some self reliance?

When a company reneges on promised retirement benefits, why is it the government that bails them out, letting them get away with under-funding their legal liabilities?

Why are businesses asking the government to protect them from lawsuits?

Self reliance should apply to everyone, but it doesn’t and we shouldn’t burden our children or businesses because of this.

By ron

April 10, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Correction:Ann Coulter is the stupidest man in America.Gore is no.2.

By Truthsayer

April 10, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Captain Freedom - your sarcasm is not lost on me, I just don’t find it funny. Also, you are on the wrong blog to be commenting on Imus. You also have obviously NEVER listened to that nasty little creeps show. He is NOT a conservative. He is a big Clinton/Gore/Kerry backer. He is no more a Republican than Hugo Chavez is a capitalist or a democrat (little d). He is also CONSTANTLY puttind down Chrisians of any stripe, so your sarcasm does not work because it is not based in fact. Imus is a pig and should be fired for being a pig. The pitty is that it did not happen long ago! I guess he just never offended the right group up until now. I suppose he finally has offended everybody. The pitty is the two biggest hypocrites in the United States are calling for his head: Jesse (Hymietown) Jackson and Al (Tawana Brawley) Sharpton.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

April 10, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Some more Republican Family Values:

By William Hunter

April 10, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Imus’s comment came WAY too easily. He threw the disrespect out there as naturally as he scowls. He observed the participants of a basketball game. His soul’s reaction was to cleverly diss their personal potential as human beings, and he was capable only of commenting along with a string of racist references.

We know what Imus is made of inside and out now. The world knows all it needs to know about Imus. The world has heard all it needs to hear from Imus.

Imus: You’re Fired.

By Real Talk

April 10, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

TFTT - Many Black Men face what the Duke players faced everyday with many of them being innocent. Unfortunately they dont have Mommy and Daddy’s money to hire excellent lawyers to defend them. What you should see is how the justice system can be manipulated to obtain a conviction. You are a piece of work guy. By the way - what Imus said was not cool at all, nor was it funny.

By wBoyle

April 10, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

In 1995, Richard Lindzen received $2500 a day from oil and coal interests for his services. His article “Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,” was underwritten by OPEC. Lindzen has lectured at numerous Cooler Heads Coalition meetings. The Cooler Heads Coalition is funded by CEI which is in turn funded by Exxon Mobil. He has also given talks for the George C. Marshall Institute which is also funded by Exxon Mobil. His connections to the oil, coal, and even tobacco industry are apparently rather extensive.

He is one skeptic among hundreds of other meteorologist that absolutely have a consensus on man’s footprint on the planets weather.

William Gray actually acknowledges that humans may have caused global warming, but he says our influence is insignificant.

By Truthsayer

April 10, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Real Talk - you are missing a point here, although I don’t know that it is the one that TFTT was trying to make. The Duke players were wrongfully accused and race-baiting was behind the accusations and the prosecution. This case is no different than many in which an African-American was wrongfully accused because of his race. Wrong is wrong and one should not waste his time defending bad behavior.

I also agree. Imus has always been a pig - and a Clinton/Gore/Kerry lover. He is a man of low moral character and a liberal. I’ve watched his show extensively on PMSNBC (I probably was the only one) because I wanted to get to know him before I unleashed on him. I stopped watching ages ago because he was offensively spouting the same crap Katie Couric was spouting less offensively on NBC.

By time for the truth

April 10, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

@ NAMBLAbootlickingkid

Fox News is infested with paid hosts and paid contributors who are America/Bush hating lefties and/or liberal arsewipes like: A Colmes, G Ferraro, B Beckel, G Rivera, G Susteren, W Clark, J Williams, E Clift and on and on

Your pathetic obsessive lies about Fox are what one expects from a drug crazed leftist arsewipe!!!

By jbmlaw

April 10, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

Dear Truthsayer @ 10:53, I know the immigration-thing is close to your heart and to that of our friend TFTT, but is it not obvious that the consequence of your proposed new law would be to accelerate the movement of companies to the workers – in whichever country they are found - since you would forbid drawing workers to the companies?. Are you certain you wish to give up those taxes paid by the companies? Most companies take laws seriously, and respond quickly and decisively; I simply suspect the likeliest response is outside the universe you contemplate.

Dear Jack @ 10:54, I agree with most of your post, but I perceive you see some downside to California becoming part of Mexico. Please explain what would be so bad about that. For that matter, let’s toss in New York City and DC, to encourage them to take California.

Dear William @ 10:56, by purchasing health insurance your wife acted responsibly. Perhaps it is unfair that several of us also purchased insurance and did not need it, but I don’t think you’ll hear anyone begrudging your wife the benefit of her wisdom. Participation was voluntary by all, in sharp contrast to the taxpayer’s rights in PeachCare.

By William Hunter

April 10, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

But all those hundreds of agreeing meterologist all went to the same school of meteorology and used the same data gathered the same way. It’s useless, and you cannot determine a trend reliably.

But the debate sells. That you can determine reliably. Write a book, and have the word “warming” in the title, and you will probably get published.

By Jeremy

April 10, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Who got lynched? All over the rap airwaves and on MTV one can hear about nappy headed ho’s and beeyatches. Now it’s live on CNN. An old white coot says something that’s been said for two decades by rappers since Run DMC, and there are gasps. You would think if those words really meant something to someone or a group, offense would have been taken long ago. It must be a black thing only even though there are two white women on that team. As if the black community doesn’t have enough problems to address. Real problems. It’s nice to know where the priorities are.

By Ted P

April 10, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

First of all there should be NO debate, NO NON citizen; illegal alien, should receive Peach Care or any other government funded program. I have no problem helping Americans in trouble, but we can’t extend that to all people of the world that is ludicrous. As for Islamic tolerance, are you out of your mind, this is the stupidest thing that the liberals have come up with yet. How about you tolerate a little tumor in your brain, isn’t killing a virus still killing? Why tolerate somebody believes that their whole existence is to NOT tolerate you? Does that make sense? As soon as liberals understand that Islam does not work until we are all Muslims we can get done what needs to be done.

By Realist

April 10, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Condileeza Rice said she was terribly offended at the “nappy headed ho” label. She knows she should perm it up but doesn’t want Cynthia McKinney to say I told you so.

By Van

April 10, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Jeremy,

What I found interesting is that Al Sharpton was offended by “nappy” but not “Hos”. Kinda makes you go “Hmmm?”

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

TFTT - I read you daily and you are the funniest turd here and I dont mean funny ha ha.. You quote accounts you read, which definitely shows weakness because you dont even investigate what you immediately reiterate to the masses.. You are the epitome of a blockhead, dimwit, dodo, dolt, dullard, dumb bunny, dumb cluck, dumb head, dumbbell, dumbo, dumdum, dunce, fool, idiot, ignoramus, moron, numskull, oaf, simpleton..

By time for the truth

April 10, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

all joking aside bubbaturd … the Duke chaps were nearly lynched by the wothless word of a racist lying ho!!! This had NOTHING to do with the fancy lawyers they employed or their upper class statu. The case inevitably unravelled simply because it was a tissue of racebaiting lies which very predicktably a load of black racebaiters gleefully jumped on and which this leftist pandering demoNcrat prosecutor deliberately failed to investigate and used to get reelected in a heavily black city!! Now Nifong is deservedly about to get the law licence boot … which is freaking hilarious!!

Imus is a giant arsehole I am not defending him or his remark … just seeing who bites when I use it … he’s a maverick ageing lefty who has a decidedly turgid show that is a very cheap AM fill in for the most pathetic cable news outlet that very few folks listen to or watch.

The black Duke lyncher is a ho though … she had several different mens’ DNA in her underwear … none of which belonged to the Duke lads!

By Ted P

April 10, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Isn’t it funny how REVERAND Al and REVERAND Jesse, do not know how to forgive? What church do they represent?

By William Hunter

April 10, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Imus weild enormous influence because he’s an equal opportunity hater.

It’s easy to become popular by bonding with others over the common hate you share. Some marriages are based on that.

But it’s a knife edge of liability because you can relax your guard and say something truly harmful in the world and just spread more negative force into the atmosphere and the terrorists win.

Personal responsibility for personal actions? Imus should just resign.

By time for the truth

April 10, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

@ NAMLAbootlickingkid

cheers for the fabulous unhinged hissy for there kunt chops … much appreciated. LMFAO!!

I note that like the deranged simpleton liberal wanker you are you simply ignore the FACTS … the facts are that Fox News employs and pays numerous lefty Bush haters to balance the moderate/independent/GOP voices they also pay and broadcast.

By time for the truth

April 10, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

@ NAMBLAbootlickingkid

cheers for the fabulous unhinged hissy there kunt chops … much appreciated. LMFAO!!

I note that like the deranged simpleton liberal wanker you are you simply ignore the FACTS … the facts are that Fox News employs and pays numerous lefty Bush haters to balance the moderate/independent/GOP voices they also pay and broadcast.

By REAL GOVERNMENT WASTE

April 10, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten,

This might hurt the feelings of your more conservative readers, but only a handful of states that George Bush carried pay more taxes into the federal government than they get in federal money. John Kerry carried 17 or the 20 highest revenue states that pay more than they recieve. Damn liberals and their self-reliance. The south is the most blood red area of the country, but only Georgia, Virginia(Barely the south) and Florida(hardly the south)paid more in than they recieved. I think any politician from Tenn, Alabama, SC, or Mississippi that talks about self-reliance and how Democrats are all about big government and giving handouts to people who don’t deserve it should be tarred and feathered. In the Atlanta area the whole self-reliance crowd often targets minorities and your article has racial overtones to it. North Fulton wants to break off from South Fulton and I often hear other Neil Boortz-ish oppressed white conservative blah blah complain about how illegal immigrants and poor minorities are getting a free ride on their backs .(BTW,I am White) The funny thing is I never hear Atlanta area conservatives b*** about how much revenue goes out of Atlanta to benefit the rest of Georgia. Most of the money or at least 3/4 of it goes to benefit white people in rural Georgia. Because Atlanta conservatives are dependant on the White Trash vote to beat Democrats they say nothing about. Think about it! The state of Georgia pays over 80% of each school teachers salary, as well as a lot of local officials and state service employees salaries. How much would these rural teachers, officials, and state employees make without metro Atlanta revenue. The infrastructure of rural Georgia is highly dependant on metro tax dollars, but I never hear the conservative columnists, talk show hosts, etc. b*** about this, but they are quick to jump on the mostly minority city of Atlanta and are strong advocates of Milton County. Perhaps, your not all racist, but you’re all unbalanced in your critisms of government waste and that certainly leaves you open for charges of racism. Mr. Wooten talked about women marrying the government. That’s straight out of Nixons southern strategy from 1972. Many of the peach care recipents are white and it’s not a completely minority program, but Mr. Wooten went straight into southern strategy talking points to anger you all. BTW, Peach Care is a tiny portion of the state government budget. How about an article on how the state was going to blow money on a “Fish Georgia Campaign” or a “Nascar Hall of Fame.”(That fell through, but Sonny offered a ton of money and tax breaks to them)In conclusion, I challenge metro Atlanta conservatives to take a more balanced look at so-called self-reliance. I don’t see you all attacking rural Georgia because you’re now OWNED by white trash bubba conservatives on all levels and depend on them for GOP votes.

By Tha Real P Diddy

April 10, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Hi Jim, just want to offer a polite response to your commentary.

It’s rather hypocritical for conservatives to scream personal responsibility and self-reliance for individuals, but then turn a blind eye to the billions of dollars in corporate welfare given to companies every year to bail them out of fiscal crises or even to give them a leg up on foreign competition. I agree with you in principle that every person needs to take more responsibility for their life, and this is coming from someone on the Left. Liberals and progressives are not arguing for more government, for we know all to well that the American government is no friend to the common man (or woman) and was never designed to be. However, there are certain problems that only government can fix. In the final analysis, as a society we must strike a balance between helping those truly in need while providing incentive for people to make wiser decisions. Also, whatever happened to good ole fashioned concern and compassion for our fellow humans?

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

The supposed to be liberals on Fox might as well be Conservatives.. They are so anemic and lurid they cant be taken seriously.. Faux News will continue to be skewered until they put someone on with some moxy, they will continue to be called the news panderers of the profession.. A true bastion of Tom Foolery..

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

There are times when The Captain hangs his head in shame at the behavior of his fellow True Believers. The wholesale repudiation of Don Imus’ persecution at the hands of the Islamoracebaiters by my Conservative Brethren is one such time.

So today, when he is embarrassing you, you repudiate Imus. Who do you toss overboard tomorrow? Will you turn on Rush Limbaugh, who is easy pickings for the Islamoracebaiters? And then Michelle Malkin, who has her own history of overt racial insensitivity? What of the delightful and winsome Miss Coulter? Will you turn on her someday, too. What of Glenn Beck? Will we run Boortz out of town? Where does the madness stop?

No, True Believers!! We must stand shoulder to shoulder with these Patriots when their racist langugage lays bare the core of True Belief. We must not abanodon them as they do battle with Liberals and Satan.

Are we a bunch of Peters? Or shall we keep the faith with those who speak for us?

By Barbara

April 10, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Van and Jeremy, I also find it interesting that the first fellow to comment was not critizied. In reading the transcript of the conversation, the fellow Imus was talking to first used the word “ho”, and Imus just added “nappy headed” in response. I wonder if the other fellow in the conversation was black? And why is “nappy” an offensive word to blacks? Growing up we used the word “nappy” to describe something that was messy, or ratty looking. I don’t know where it came from. The community I grew up in was 80% black (until I moved to ATL at the age of 12). I know that all kids in the neighborhood used that word, and it was never considered racist, just descriptive. I don’t know much about Imus, but it seems the small comment he made, in response to a comment made right before him by someone else, is not worth all this outrage.

By Joe L

April 10, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

“If the ice caps are melting, then it should be too cold on Easter Sunday to have outdoor sunrise service because the melting ice sends cold water further south for longer periods of time and that cools things down locally even though the overall tempurature is rising…..DOH!”

Ah I gotta love people who haven’t taken science past elementary school. The reason you are so far off base is because of SALINITY of water. What do you put on sidewalk ice to “melt” it? Salt. Why? Because this LOWERS the temperature at which water freezes. So fresh water (from polar ice melt) is WARMER than salty water that can plunge below 0 degrees celsius. Also white ice reflects sunlight which keeps atmospheric temps down, exposed earth absorbs that light. AND the entire gulfstream would stagnate if the salinity and temp of arctic weater rose which actually would trap that cold water up north and keep warm water that leaves the central latitudes in that area thus INCREASING temps.

The science of environmental climate is much more advanced than melting ice = more cold water = colder temps.

By William Hunter

April 10, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Imus should go.

Imus should go.

His remarks were thrown out there too readily, and revealed his true nature and the true nature of most of his listeners, and we just cant have that kind of disrespect or hate in this country or the terrorists win.

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Thank you Barbara. I knew I could count on you to stand firm with Imus and the Captain.

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

That faux news comment was for you - Time for the Untruth..

By Barbara

April 10, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

What has happened to us Captain? First you don’t acknowledge my earlier question to you, and now you mock me? What are we up to now; 3, or 4 times that you’ve made me shed a tear now?

By William Hunter

April 10, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Joe, melting ice lets cooler water out which cools locally and temporarily, which is a symptom of a global rise in temperatures which is causeing the ice melt flows of unsalinated cold water to go further and further south longer and longer. Ocean water flows like rivers, so you can have local variances in the amount of salinity.

Now I was just making the science part of my post up so I could do the “doh”, but you were the one who swung at it, which means neither of us knows anything about the atmosphere other than we can communicate with the martians via tin foil hats with wire hangers and a little duct tape as we are the Robo-people from Planet 9!

There is no reliable data to conclude anything about our atmospheric temperatures. I question the science, the assumptions, the data, the math, the sampling, and everything about it pro or con.

The problem with the Global Warming Movie is that you never get to see Tipper Gore in a bikini.

By smogface

April 10, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

“The supposed to be liberals on Fox might as well be Conservatives..” And amazingly, I find myself saying the same thing about supposed to be conservatives on CNN. ABC, CBS, NBC, and MSNBC don’t even have conservative viewpoints. In any event, let us take a quick look down Fox’s supposed liberals who have made regular appearances on various Fox news shows: Donna Brazile, Geraldine Ferraro, Susan Estrich, David Corn, James Carville, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Charles Rangel, and a host of others. If these are supposed to be liberals who really aren’t, I’d sure like to see what real liberals are supposed to be like. The 50 yard line for liberals is first and goal inside the 10.

By HAROLD

April 10, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

WHY YALL ALL OF A SUDDEN ACTIN LIKE YOU CARE ABOUT WOMEN BASKETBALL

WHO EVEN KNEW THERE WAS A RUGGER BASKETBALL TEAM FOR WOMEN

THEY SHOULD WELCOME THE PUBLICICITY

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Deepest apologies, dearest Barbara. I missed your earlier plea for my attentions. Don’t cry, mon couer (pardon my damned French). You wrote:

Oh, Captain my love, are you saying that you don’t believe that those on public assistance don’t have another baby because of the extra benefits?

No, my pet, I believe it wholeheartedly. In my experience, women endure the rigors of sexual intercourse only in return for something of value…a car, a cashmere sweater, jewelry, that sort of thing. The Captain, being completely colorblind, assumes that Those Women have the same sort of attitude about sex as our women do, and since their men are unable to provide the material comforts the way We do, it is only natural that it would require governmental incentive to get Those Women to rut.

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Smugface - come on I’m speaking of the regulars not guest appearances..

By Truthsayer

April 10, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Captain Freedom - AGAIN I REPEAT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LIKE TO IGNORE FACTS: IMUS IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE. HE IS NO MORE A CONSERVATIVE THAN I AM A MAOIST OR HUGO CHAVEZ IS A HUMANITARIAN dEMOCRAT!

The Real P. Diddy - conservatives have almost universally condemned corporate welfare as much as other forms of welfare. It is Democrats like Ole Dummy Carter and FDR who have been at the forefront of providing corporate welfare - the Chrysler bailout comes to mind. Reagan was opposed to doing that. Dummy did it.

jbmlaw - immigration is not a major issue to me. It is at best a peripheral issue. However, it is a thorny one, which is the point I was making. It is common sense that if you cut off the demand, then the supply will dry up. We no longer have a huge demand for buggy whips, therefore the supply is rather low. Also your point about employers may be valid generally, but I was making a point about people hiring illegal aliens. They are by definition not honest because they are wilfully breaking the law, not paying taxes and committing all of the other crimes associated with hiring illegals. You would not even have to arrest all that many people to make the point. You do it a few dozen times, put several hundred board members in jail for a few months and the problem would go away.

Also outsourcing is NOT the economy killer people have made it out to be. Unemployment in this country is now at 4.5%, lower than any of our industrialized competitors in the developed world. Outsourcing low-paying jobs often results in a more highly paid skilled work force. We also are the recipients of many outsourced jobs - e.g. Toyota, Nissan, Honda.

By Truthsayer

April 10, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Captain Freedom - AGAIN I REPEAT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LIKE TO IGNORE FACTS: IMUS IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE. HE IS NO MORE A CONSERVATIVE THAN I AM A MAOIST OR HUGO CHAVEZ IS A HUMANITARIAN dEMOCRAT!

The Real P. Diddy - conservatives have almost universally condemned corporate welfare as much as other forms of welfare. It is Democrats like Ole Dummy Carter and FDR who have been at the forefront of providing corporate welfare - the Chrysler bailout comes to mind. Reagan was opposed to doing that. Dummy did it.

jbmlaw - immigration is not a major issue to me. It is at best a peripheral issue. However, it is a thorny one, which is the point I was making. It is common sense that if you cut off the demand, then the supply will dry up. We no longer have a huge demand for buggy whips, therefore the supply is rather low. Also your point about employers may be valid generally, but I was making a point about people hiring illegal aliens. They are by definition not honest because they are wilfully breaking the law, not paying taxes and committing all of the other crimes associated with hiring illegals. You would not even have to arrest all that many people to make the point. You do it a few dozen times, put several hundred board members in jail for a few months and the problem would go away.

Also outsourcing is NOT the economy killer people have made it out to be. Unemployment in this country is now at 4.5%, lower than any of our industrialized competitors in the developed world. Outsourcing low-paying jobs often results in a more highly paid skilled work force. We also are the recipients of many outsourced jobs - e.g. Toyota, Nissan, Honda.

By Joe L

April 10, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

“There is no reliable data to conclude anything about our atmospheric temperatures. I question the science, the assumptions, the data, the math, the sampling, and everything about it pro or con.”

I actually agree with this statement, however what most people understand or infer about the science is far from correct.

But when you say “unsalinated cold water” you are disingenuous because fresh cold water is warmer than salinated cold water. Combined with the fact that differences in density also affect global temperatures.

And melting ice releases very large amounts of trapped CO2 gas.

There are inarguable points. The world is warming. How much and for how long? We can’t be sure. How much of it is “manmade”? We can’t be sure yet. Are we amplifying the effects in some manner? Yes. And as a result we should be whatever we can to change our effects on the environment.

Global warming is FACT. The arguable part is who/how/why. And it’s not nearly scientific but it’s also hard to ignore that the increases and increases in human C02 (or human activity caused) emissions go hand-in-hand.

By Jesus General

April 10, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

And with his recent double-post, Truthsayer has denied Imus three times.

Peter!

By Anonymous

April 10, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Captain Freedom - I just love you high brown pseudo-intellectuals. Yes, pardon your French the word is COEUR (heart). Couer is not a word. I looked it up. Stop putting down everyone else as a duma** and go out and get an edumucation.

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

The Captain is well-amused when a poster with no more wit than to name herself ‘Anonymous’ takes issue with a simple transposition of two letters.

However, in the spirit of comity, the Captain does admit to a typing error. Mea maxima culpa. I’m not infallibel, but certainly very close.

And what, pray tell, are “high-brown pseudo-intellectuals”? Is that some kind of racial slur?

By Truthsayer

April 10, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

JG - Sorry about the double post. I have denied him many, many times because he is not one. I have been condemning that nasty little twit for at least fifteen years. He is NOT a conservative. Tell me one conservative position the twit has ever taken. You will be hard pressed to find one. He claims to be a registered Republican but he backed Clinton/Gore/Kerry. He is a racist, but so is Robert Byrd, one of the liberal icons. So are all of you anti-semite Israel haters on the left right now. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are also racists. So is Louis Farrakhan, yet they are all liberals. You are taking the position that this low-life white trash is conservative because he is a racist. You have it backwards. He is just another liberal hypocrite!

By Anonymous

April 10, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Captain Freedom - no it was not a racial slur, but since you brought it up, you made my earilier point. It was a typo. It should have been high-brow. My point was you used French and did not pay attention to what you were doing. You were attempting to show some kind of intellectual superiority when in fact you did just the opposite. Congratulations.

By Barbara

April 10, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Ah Captain, I thought perhaps you had lost your affection for me. To heck with the spell-check critic, for they fail to enjoy your true wit, choosing instead to nit-pick the occasional typo. But with all that French, you really are starting to push our relationship. First a liberal, now a dang Frenchman too! Ugghh, the lines I must cross to continue holding you dear in my heart. Just don’t go tellin’ me if you are anti-gun or pro-abortion. I think we’d have to end it for sure…….

BTW, your last sentence in that 1:01 post was classic Captain! Truly funny…

By smogface

April 10, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

“Smugface - come on I’m speaking of the regulars not guest appearances..” Okay, I’ve got you covered bootstrap. I misunderstood your post about fake news. I know what you mean about having wimpy representation all too well. I keep wading and wading through the sea of liberalism and wimpy conservative voices if at all at CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, and most recently on The View where some dumb blonde who can’t stand up for herself is supposed to represent conservative thought up against loudmouth Rosie. Yes bootstrap, I can sympathize with your being upset at that sole fake news outlet. The audacity of them of actually having real conservatives and wimpy liberal regulars while all others dominate with left wingers and little to zero conservatives is inexcusable.

By jbmlaw

April 10, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

Dear RGW @ 12:04, accepting for the sake of argument your silly position matching the red states (e.g., the home state of Atlanta) vs the blue states (e.g., Minneasota), would it not eliminate the issue if there were no government spending at all, i.e., the red state solution? You leftists think you can buy, with taxpayer largesse, our acquiescence with your wild tax and spend policies, but surely it is now dawning on you that your assumption is invalid. I am comfortable that only an idiot says “less government equals racist.”

Dear TRPD @ 12:06, please refer to my argument at 9:15: PeachCare, Hope Scholarships, and government slum housing are all forms of corporate welfare, existing primarily to benefit the providers of those “services,” not the people who take advantage of the goodies. The only problems government can cure are those that require killing people, incarcerating people, or appropriating property of people. If you ask anything more of government, you either ask the impossible or beg for inefficiency. And by the way, how can your argument be “polite” if your first sentence charges “hypocrisy” of those who disagree with you?

Dear Truthsayer @ 12:45, I mostly agree with your well-written analysis. I regard employers who hire illegals as being almost as dishonest as people who drive 56+ mph on I-285. My concern for ”outsourcing” is less over those companies already here than for those not here who will choose to not come here, thus impairing the growth engine. Every act of the legislature discourages growth.

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Smugface - You can twist words and manufacture a thesis on what would be, but the fact still remains that Faux News continuously spews right wing propaganda and people like you gobble it up whole. Furthermore you listen intently to make certain you have the lies straight so if someone questions the stat quo, you can nullify any attempt to thwart the house of cards thats been built by this facetious administration. For goodness sake Tony Snow was the appointed press secretary after everyone else bailed (among the long list of firings, retirings, quitting, runnings away and replacements).. They could still find buffoons over at Faux News.. Please understand that you have been bamboozled and ran amuck.

By deegee

April 10, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

You aren’t going to see many executives of big American companies being hauled off to jail or even fined because of employment fraud. They hide behind employment agencies that provide the labor and check documentation. When busted, the employment agency personnel are fined and maybe jailed. The workers are jailed and deported. The workers’ kids are stranded. The state’s social service agency steps in to take care of the kids. While the execs are inconvenienced by the raids, they aren’t going to jail.

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Anonymous,

The Captain generously accepts your apology, though he finds your groveling a bit much to forbear.

And fear not Barbara…I am four-square in support of the right of Blastocyst-Americans to carry firearms, so long as they are not the offspring of Islamics or other felon types.

By Redneck Convert

April 10, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Well, I’m not afraid to come right out and say what us conservatives really think. I don’t like Peach Care and welfare because they go to Those People. We need to stop these handouts of my tax money. If it was respeckable these days, jbmlaw and Wooten and tftt would give the same reason. But they have been beat back and shamed by the libruls, so they make up things like getting people hooked on handouts. But they really mean Those People shouldn’t be getting any handouts.

And Imus was right. Me and my buddy Jim Earl watched that womens basketball game. The Rutgers players had more tattoos than a 20-year sailer and more mussels too. And their hair was nappy. And they were all Those People. Its just that the good Southren tradishions of the 40s and 50s have been blocked by bad laws and pressure by the libruls. Thats why we can’t say what we really think and if we do we get fired or yelled at. Just look at poor Wooten. He will be fired in a few months just for being a good conservative at a commie news paper.

Anyway, I need a break from my campaign. So me and the missus is taking a few days to hook up the trailer and go down to Panama City Beach.

Joe Bill will be taking over my beer run. But he will still be there to collect your money. Which you should send to Committee to Elect Redneck Convert for President, c/o Simpsons Trailer Park, Dawsonville, GA. Good GA values. No more handouts for Those People. Draft illegals into the army and kick butt over there. The death penalty for everybody that gets arrested. And big tax cuts for everybody. Except maybe libruls and Those People.

Thanking you for your support.

By Shar

April 10, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten’s point today, talking heads and global warming aside, is the selective assumption of private responsibility by the taxpayers through the formulation of public policy. It’s a good topic and worthy of serious consideration, particularly on a day when our representatives have decided to shift another $100 million in tax liability from corporate to individual taxpayers.

It seems to me that the question is not whether the government assumes what would otherwise be private obligations, but whose obligations they choose to assume. Although the libertarians continue to quixotically argue that government should be drastically reduced in size and function, the liklihood of anyone in power willingly giving up their money and say-so is nil. Power brokers seek to extract the greatest flow of money and then funnel it to causes and individuals they find most deserving, thus reinforcing their own power base.

This week, Georgia power brokers have decided that Delta does not need to pay any tax on the jet fuel it buys for the next two years. I, however, can confidently expect to pay an ever-increasing fuel tax bill as the base cost continues to soar into the unaffordable stratosphere and the tax, as a percentage of that cost, just keeps pouring into the hands of the people who generously gave Delta the tax bye. I have therefore assumed responsibility for shoring up Delta’s revenues. It is the judgement of our Legislature that I must do likewise for Gulfstream (whose operating income is up 30 percent over last year), the Georgia Aquarium and other corporate entities around the state. My federal representatives are concentrating on protecting the millions of taxpayer dollars that are shifted to Georgia’s cotton farmers, among whom “cultivating dependency” is endemic. Why are these recipients more deserving of dumping their responsibilities than are a preacher or a welfare mother?

It is also nearly impossible to advocate for fiscal responsibility when the power broker in question has been personally irresponsible. The K Street Project all but guaranteed that legislators should extort ever higher “contributions” from whichever regulated entities could afford to hire lobbyists and lawyers as bagmen; the $250 million Bridge To Nowhere was accepted as a quid pro quo perk for the powerful; and $90,000 in bribes hidden in a freezer is positioned as a normal means of doing business. When such people espouse fiscal conservatism, one can only believe that any belt tightening will be inflicted by them, not personally endured.

“Government dependency” is only bad when the dependents are entities that are “bad”.
“Government investment” is precisely the same thing, but with recipients who have been found to be deserving. Mr. Wooten likes road building but not fatherless children. Rev. Sharpton likes minority set asides but not Haliburton no-bid contracts. Their targets may be different but the action is the same.

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Smugface - And with all the Right wing Nut jobs on the radio.. Please.. The priciple nutjob is none other than a Kingpin named Rush Limburger Cheese.. Or was he a dopehead, I forget because I have a life rather than sitting around hanging onto every word these maniacs allege. I guess I monitor whats going on around me instead of being in a bubble listening to heaps and hordes of talking heads.

By Truthsayer

April 10, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Redneck Convert - you sound like white-trash to me. Your sarcasm is not lost on this conservative, but you are way off the mark. You no more understand “rugged individualism” or “personal responsiblity” than I understand the intricacies of nuclear physics. You have betrayed that you really are an effete snob with an over-blown sense of his own mediocre intellect. You obviously are one of these “nuanced” thinkers like the great loser John F**ing Kerry who believes that he is the smartest person in the room because he is smart enough to understand that the Earth was not created in six days. In other words, we common people would call your kind a JERK!

By Truthsayer

April 10, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Bootstrap - you mean like all of the left-wing nut-jobs on the television like Dan Rather, Mike Wallace, Morley Saffer and Andy Rooney everyone on CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC and PBS, including Charlie Gibson, Katie Couric and Bryan Williams? And my favorite left-wing nut, Bill “the snob” Moyers.

And speaking of radio, every single person they have on NPR in the afternoon (I am a regular listener) is to the left of Lenin! Nina Totenberb, Juan Williams, Mora LIARson and Terri VERY Gross.

For every “radical” right-winger on the radio or on Fox, I bet I can name ten duma** liberals who barely got out of journalism school on the networks. You also seem to be complaining because people have the temerity to watch that stuff. Well freedom of speech and freedom to listen work both ways you narrow-minded twit!

By Right Wing Abomination of the Day Contest

April 10, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Although it is early, we have already declared today’s winner: Truthsayer, for his observation that Louis Farrakhan is a liberal.

By smogface

April 10, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Alright bootstrapped, I get the point. You hate fake news yet love everyone else. As for me, I view and listen to all media outlets, and I find the majority of them overly biased left with little to no conservative counterpoints. But, just because I’m not a liberal you think that I’m just brainwashed by fake news and read or listen to absolutely nothing else. liberals that think like you give preconceived notions a bad name. I really don’t expect you to see it that way, but then again, if you did, you’d also be complaining about the conservative bias at those other m.s.m. media outlets as well. It’s like I said, your 50 yard line of fairness is inside the 10 on first and goal to pure liberal left wing thought. You so open minded liberals. Good day.

By Van

April 10, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer,

Notice how the left embraces diversity of the news, except where it counters anything they believe.

It is amazing to me how the left, that would not be caught listening to El Rushmo or Hannity, will criticize the right wing talk radio right out of the lefties talking points. No original thought on their part.

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

TruthNAYsayer.. Not you too.. Brainwashed, bamboozled, hornswoggled and ran amuck.

By Realist

April 10, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

Van, Truthsayer, Shar, Smogface…..go kill yourselves….please.

By Barbara

April 10, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Hi Shar. Very good post, but how do we fix the problems? I agree that some of the recently announced tax breaks seem unfair, but likewise so is the current PeachCare and Welfare doles. I guess the only thing I don’t agree with you on is the statement that “Government dependency” is only bad when the dependents are entities that are “bad”. I think all government dependency is bad, if it becomes a way of life, rather than a short term program to assist in hard times. People must be taught, even forced at times, to support themselves, and must be held accountable if they continuously make bad choices that cause them to be a burden to society.

By harold

April 10, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

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By Joe L

April 10, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

“Government dependency” is only bad when the dependents are entities that are “bad”. I think all government dependency is bad, if it becomes a way of life, rather than a short term program to assist in hard times.”

So if roads, electricity, clean water, sewage all disappeared tomorrow you would be capable of surviving? An extremely few people in this world are no longer not dependent on the government - and that’s not a bad thing.

By smogface

April 10, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Bootstrap, don’t forget liberals also rule mainstream newspapers around this nation minus the WSJ. We can start with our very own AJC and go around the nation. That darn 50 yard line just keeps moving, doesn’t it?

By Barbara

April 10, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Joe L, I think you’re stretching my comments way out of context, but to answer your question, Yes, I think I would be capable of surviving; at least longer than most folks. I have a nice piece of property that backs up to Army Corps land, which includes a lake, with all the deer I can shoot and all the fish I can catch. And I have a year-round creek for water. And I have plenty of hardwoods for heat and fire to cook. If all that stuff disappeared overnight, I wouldn’t have to survive on my land forever; just long enough for you folks who depend on the government to die. Then I would get access to all of your stuff too.

Now that’s if we take your definition of government dependency. Mine was a little more basic. I would be all for tolls that required users to pay for the roads. And I pay my electricity and water bill every month, so I don’t quite get your point on those. I just object to 1/3 of my paycheck being seized every month to help pay for folks who are capable of working, but choose not to. And don’t try me with that crap about not being able to find work. Puh-leeeze. I’ve never known anyone who wanted to work but couldn’t find a job.

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Smackedface and VanDamnU.. I never said what station I watched or listened to.. You two assumed and that makes an A$$ out of you.. Believe me children I am in the know.. I am just not the one to fall for the Lame Parlor tricks of the Bush Admin. The Bush fiasco is like watching a magic show that tries to hide the quarter and you see it going up someones sleeve. I’m not a news jockey like you guys, nor am I a fan of any talking head. I honestly think its a crying shame that Rush and Hannity has so many male groupies..

By jbmlaw

April 10, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Poor Bootstrap @ 3:17, I assume you have not yet heard Paul Shanklin’s latest parody. That is our real problem with leftists, their inability to laugh or to appreciate humor when displayed.

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

JBowelMovement - We have just as much of a sense of humor as you.

By Curious Observer

April 10, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Like Barbara, I own some mountain property—in another state—that has its own spring, plenty of land for growing food and securing firewood, and lots of wild game.

But why should I want utter independence from governmental entities? The jungle mentality of the utter libertarians baffles me. I want government to have a hand in supplying a physical and social infrastructure. It’s called civilization, folks. If you want to be totally independent from government, then move out of the country to a location where you will have unstinted access to the caveman’s existence. Besides, it will be good riddance for the rest of us. All the hard-line conservatives seem to do now is to sit around and gripe about taxes and government intrusion and social policies, all the while benefiting from the freedom and safety that this country provides. And you can bet they don’t mind the government’s supplying police forces to protect their gated mansions and their wealth.

As Thoreau once wrote of the over-solicitous do-gooders, so his words apply to the griping conservatives: they have a belly full of green apples. They need to get a life.

By Dusty

April 10, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer @2:13,

Dear Truthsayer, be not dismayed over Redneck & Captain Freedom. They are the entertainment committee of this blog.

Their camouflage unit is sometimes hilarious as they try deperately to put on an arduous comedy act to fool us.

RedNeck, with monologue straight out of “Deliverance”, is here to cover his liberal citified beliefs. And, Captain, the effete military snob of comic coolness goes all out to disguise his whacked out liberal retreat-and-run complex.

All are undercover agents of the liberal agenda so be not fooled. Just enjoy the jesters!!

Even Barbara may resort to swimming with the pool boy and I will not drink mint juleps at the trailer park.

Just thought I’d let you know about the clowns and camouflaged comedians. They do break the monotony of the repetetive sqawks and disclaimers of the usually dull party line standards of libs.

By Barbara

April 10, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Keep in mind, Curious, I used my example as a response to someone’s misinterpretation of my previous comments. I never said I didn’t want to live in society. (And trust me, I do not live in a gated community nor in a mansion…..) I’m willing to pay my share for roads, and a few other things that the government currently oversees, but I object to paying for others to live their whole life on my dime.

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Don’t be insulted if Truthsayer does not respond to you. He is very busy cross-posting all his major entries over at Lukovich. And keeping up a running dialog in both blogs! I wonder when he finds time to do any productive work with his demanding blog schedule.

The Captain salutes him, and wonders if he uses the astronaut brand of adult undergarment so he can devote more time to fighting the Islamunistofascists online.

By Joe L

April 10, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

“I just object to 1/3 of my paycheck being seized every month to help pay for folks who are capable of working, but choose not to”

Do you mean the airlines who are getting tax free fuel? Which people do you think are getting your money? Because if you think “welfare” is taking your money, you are sadly mistaken.

By H. T.

April 10, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

When you have people not getting married so that the mother-to-be can qualify for state insurance something is wrong with the system. Two people - mother and father - expecting children out-of-wedlock decide NOT to get married because then they have to pay for the deductible! Insanity is prevalent….and VERY liberal.

By The Bootstrap Kid

April 10, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

All of you who hate to pay taxes… Move to another country.. Just call it your living in the greatest country on the earth tax. You pay for everything else so you might as well pay to stay here or move to Afghanistan or Iraq.. They dont have taxes..

By Political Foreskin

April 10, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

There’s a new biography on the life of Einstein. I never knew this story. I love history I dont know: He had an affair with a Russian Spy. Now as a child, Einstein had a really bad and annoying habit of writing his secrets inside the elastic band of his unter-wearen. His mother would complain that the ink would run all over the rest of the laundry, but she never could quite break the little brat, albert, of that nasty habit. She got so frustated that she boxed his ears and Einstein was deaf by the time he was 50.

Anyway, this Russian Spy fox was out for the secret formula that would allow Russia to leap ahead in the science race, and when Einstein would fall asleep she would rifle through all his files, and desks, and closets but she just couldn’t find the confounded secret formula.

Well, one night, Einstein had trouble sleeping, and ………We now take a small break for station identification……..”Cant sleep? Are you fidgety and nervous? Tired eyes? Cant concentrate? Well you need “doze and doze” brand sleeping pills. Get some sleep tonite with Doze and Doze.”…….now back to our story….yes, Einstein couldn’t sleep one nite when his amorous Russian Spy (and fink) girlfriend was trying to rifle through his papers, none of which had the secret formula that would have given the Russians the edge in science over the west. Only Einstein knew where he had written the formula. So he called out, “Vat you doing, darlink?”———“Nothing, dear, go back to sleep”———“No, you’re doing something mit mine papiers”———“I am not, shut up”——-“You are trying to gestealin mein secret geformula you Russian Spy Fink, I will Keel YOU!”—————and now we take a small break for our sponsers…..”Are you overweight? Do you feel tired all the time and overworked? Too bad, fatso.” we now return to the program…

So Einstein got up and went over to see what his foxy spy was doing in his closet and she had to think fast, so she began to pretend to sniff his unter-wearin like she was a super-freak. That’s when she saw the BVD=MC2 formula that kept Russia out of the arms race till the end of world war two and civilization was saved, thanx to Einstein’s stupid nasty habit of writing everything in his unter-vear.

By Joe L

April 10, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

“When you have people not getting married so that the mother-to-be can qualify for state insurance something is wrong with the system.”

I agree, the problem being that healthcare is so expensive and so many people who are already struggling to make ends meet and don’t get insurance through work have to make such a terrible decision.

I love this silly fantasy that liberals think children being born to single parents is a good thing - it’s not.

It’s funny because I could take a good 5-6 sentences out of this column and completely embrace them. The concepts are not what separate conservatives and liberals most of the time, it’s execution.

By Dusty

April 10, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Dear Captain,

I often wondered why YOUR curious capers were not stated over at Luckovich’s. I mean ml is your mentor in the crass world of liberalism. Do you have an even more circuitous ID at your more likely blog de Luckovich?

If our friend Truthsayer steps on your toes here, I think he can take care of himself in that fetid liberal Lucko atmosphere.

As to the astronaut brand of adult undergarment, perhaps you can help him choose a brand after your long experience with such items. And certainly that’s a good idea. I wouldn’t want him to miss any strokes against Islamunistofascist jackals on any blog.

By Poofs for Bush

April 10, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

You know, those Royal Marines getting paid big money for their cowardice in Iran - I bet our girl tftt is all excited - he’s a Brit and a way bigger coward than any of those losers, she might have won the damn lottery!

What kind of garbage are the Brits sending to Iraq?

By Captain Freedom

April 10, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

After seeing the quality of Truthsayer’s posts in defense of True Belief, I am confident that the man never misses any strokes. Perhaps you can advise him on a nice aloe gel that helps you with your own dryness challenge.

By getalife

April 10, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Damn.

Bwhahahaha!

Good one Captain.

Geez.

By Lily Toad

April 10, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Why hasn’t anyone brought up the fact that Walmart doesn’t provide insurance for their employees and actually encourgage them to obtain PeachCare? Where is Walmart’s responsibility?

By Shar

April 10, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

Hi Barbara, and thank you kindly for the bon mots. How to fix the problem? My best guess, second in unreality to the idea of politicians cutting down on their spending of our money, is to diffuse the decision making as broadly and locally as possible. Gulfstream would find it much more difficult to shift their tax burden if they had to convince politicians and voters in every county in Georgia that will pick up their slack instead of just their very own pocket legislators. Lobbying a select few decision makers would no longer deliver the goods, and the resulting snafus would so hopelessly tangle and delay any such spending that only the most compelling cases would be worth the trouble. Add a spending cap for everything except the libertarian basics, amount to be popularly voted on every year, and perhaps the rampant dependency could at least be slowed. Throw a bit of sunshine, too, in making all such spending publicly attributable, and restrict all such proposals to the first ten days of the Legislature so that lagianappe cannot be slipped in under the wire. Finally, make every recipient account for the public funding they receive, be it a tax shift or a food subsidy.

The real shame of this kind of spending, whether one agrees with the recipient or not, is discouraging to the individual who provides the money. Like you, Barbara, I have strong objections to where a great deal of my tax dollars go, and as far as I’m concerned I should be able to spend my own money as I see fit, which right now is in astronomical tuition bills in an effort to prepare my children to be productive members of society. My inability to either control the amount of money that is spent or influence the way in which it is given out is enormously frustrating, a feeling I think is shared by most of today’s posters. However, I choose to live in a country that does not tolerate the finite edges of an unbridled market economy, and that means forced sharing of the fruits of our labor. Even if that sharing involves people who have been on welfare for 30 years or companies whose op revs have increased 30 percent year to year.

By catlady

April 10, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Shar’s post is right on target. What do we do when our money is taken for largess for others? I have no problem with taxes for roads, for cleaning the water and air. We all travel from one place to another, we all drink and breathe. I have an increasingly big problem with all the special interest breaks and subsidies, including some my parents sure enjoyed and profited from, such as tax advantages of home ownership, TVA electricity, and 401K advantages.

I had a big problem with the AJC article about Peachcare in Sunday’s paper because it seemed to be an on target example of why Peachcare is NOT needed in its current form.

By Jackie

April 10, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

Strange how the conservatives have no problem in send $500 billion dollars to Iraq, with $20 billion unaccounted for, yet, these same folks complain about helping the poor of this country. What patriots!!!!!

By getalife

April 10, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Indeed Jackie.

They love giving our money to Iraq but not Americans.

By Dusty

April 10, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Dear Captain,

Surely you would not retreat to the lower levels of discussion to reach your scatologic mindset? Ah, but you would expose the true character of the oh so gallant Captain.

Aloe indeed. I already rub such lotions on my hands and they work quite nicely. But thanks anyway.

Oh, and regards to your buddy, getalife. You two are so much alike.

By deegee

April 10, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

We send our money and our soldiers to Iraq so we don’t have to worry about sweeping up blood and body parts from the streets of Peoria. Anyway, that’s what they tell us.

By getalife

April 10, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Not true Dusty.

The Captain is a much better writer.

I do not think he was talking about your hands.

Geez.

By Dusty

April 10, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

Jackie,

“Poor peole” (up to forty thousand dollars income) get help from the government. In fact, millions are spend on healthcare, subsides, special housing and more. That is why so many people are trying to get to America. Benefits, protection and freedom!!

And yes, it is patriotic to support the troops fighting in our war, whether you like it or not. This is our war no matter your politics. Do you want to stop funding the troops, Iraqi rehab, worldwide storm relief help and all the things Americans do? Peachcare is but a drop in the bucket. Sometimes it pays to look at the big picture.

By Barbara

April 10, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Shar, that’s a good plan. Too bad folks in charge of making policy are way too power-hungry to ever give up their special interest pandering and kickbacks. The whole political scene seems disgusting at times. Such a waste of money, much of it going to efforts of keeping their own jobs secure. Ughh. Sometimes I do wish we lived back in caveman times.

Dusty I am so glad you mentioned the poolboy stuff. When I read that blog (I think it was last Friday), it was already late in the day. I was at first annoyed (and embarrassed, thinking someone might believe I actually wrote that stuff), but then I decided I wouldn’t even bother to try to defend myself. It did bother me a little though, so I appreciate your acknowledgement that I was punked that day.

By Dusty

April 10, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Really?? Then why don’t you tell me what he was talking about?

By getalife

April 10, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Your crusty feet?

Ask Captain Freedom.

Geez.

By Barbara

April 10, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Is that the best you got, getalife? On her worst day Dusty could come up with much better.

Geez!

By Sarah Hendrix

April 11, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

CORRUPTION AT THE IRS

The biggest problem with the IRS is the internal corruption – specifically the internal corruption of the Atlanta District of the IRS. As a former IRS International Examiner/Revenue Agent in that district office, I should know.

I can prove on paper that after I filed a reverse discrimination EEO complaint, my direct line managers gave away over $2,300,000 of the American taxpayer’s money (money that I had already had signed agreements for) in several quid pro quos in order to tar my professional reputation and eventually terminate me.

Not knowing how reluctant the courts are to allow reverse discrimination cases to go to trial, in November 1997, I filed a whistleblower, wrongful termination and reverse discrimination case against the IRS in the Northern District of Georgia. Some 10 years later, I still have not been allowed my day in court.

In the interim, I have learned a lot about how corrupt and untruthful Assistant United States Attorneys are. I have learned a lot about the IRS’s ability to corrupt vulnerable plaintiff’s attorney(s) with enticements when the same attorney(s) owe money to the IRS. I have learned a lot about District Court judges who carve out sworn testimony to support a behind closed doors Order (agreement) that has no basis in the law.

I have also learned that the Supreme Court will not hear reverse discrimination cases from the Eleventh Circuit because Justice Clarence Thomas (who personally knows how to work his way around the law in discrimination cases) controls the cases from that Circuit.

The question that I presented in my Petition for Writ of Certiorari was:

“Whether the aggressive use of summary judgment and the arbitrary manipulation of procedures in Title VII discrimination cases was denying plaintiff’s their “day in court” per the Seventh Amendment and therefore, in the instant case, allowing powerful Internal Revenue Service employees the ability to continue their illegal activities without any repercussion.”

Justice Thomas denied my Petition. The Supreme Court is obviously more interested in dealing with such “free speech” issues as “smoke a bong 4 Jesus’ than routing out corruption in the IRS.

I can prove on paper any charge I have made against the IRS and the six individual defendants named in my case. The Assistant U S Attorney knows that - that is why he resorted to lies and eight (8) years of procedural manipulations to keep me from getting my “day in court”. He was more interested in “winning” his case than seeing that justice is done.

Unfortunately, in the long run, the Assistant U S Attorney did not win because he also is an American taxpayer. Because he chose winning by default over allowing me my day in court, the same individual defendants are back at work at the IRS still using the American taxpayer’s money for their own purposes. In addition, they now KNOW that they are above the law.

As I have stated repeatedly, “If they [Individual Defendant’s] are willing to give away over $2,300,000 of the American taxpayer’s money to get me fired then, what in the world are they doing for themselves?”

I can be reached by cell phone at (404) 444-4596 or e-mail at hendrixs@bellsouth.net if you have any questions about my experiences. As I stated before, I can prove on paper ANY accusation that I have made against the IRS, the Assistant U S Attorney and/or my former lawyers. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sarah Hendrix 134 Summerset Lane
Atlanta, GA 30328

By Me

April 11, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

What the hell does Dubai have to do with Peach Care?

By angel murr

April 12, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

For the last few months the senate and house have been working on a bill that will provide special needs children currently within the public school system in Georgia scholarship money for private school.

I have heard and read hundreds of testimonies from parents of special needs children over the last few months. They are heartbreaking. The bill is the only hope for academic success for the majority of these children. The public system is not equipped to deal with the crisis these parents are facing.

The bill passed the senate and a house sub-committee. It has stalled in this house session. We have been told it would go to vote three times already and it appears that they may not vote on it within the next five days. We all know what that means.

I fear that a very small group of representatives might be “sitting” on it in an effort to kill the bill. I believe they are afraid it will pass. There are only five more days left in this session. Our public school system in Georgia is in an overall crisis. We have to do something, anything to get our schools back on track. This could be the first step. Why not give these families the option to seek the help and support service they need? These children require highly specialized instruction. HELP.

True story:

Summit Hill Elementary in affluent Milton just placed a group of first graders in an already overcrowded fourth (4th) grade classroom. They dumped them there because they are too overcrowded. No teacher, no classroom. How are these children supposed to learn? This teachers has several students who have very “special needs”.

By Stanley Jacobs

April 12, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

“What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord GOD of hosts.” In case you don’t recognize this passage, it’s Isaiah 3:15. I sincerely wish that Jim Wooten and those who agree with his hateful and hate filled creed would read the book of Isaiah and try to understand what it’s saying.

By catlady

April 12, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten: I inferred something a little different from the article in the Sunday AJC. I belive the minister’s family has been on Peachcare for several years (and until recently paying nothing, now paying $24 per month, which includes, health, dental, vision, and $400+ per week in therapy for 3 and soon to be 4 children). I don’t think it is clear that he quit to get his kids on Peachcare, since they were already on it. With he and his wife working, however, they would not have qualified.

I don’t quarrel with much of the rest of what you have said on the “generousity” of Peachcare, however. Not just individuals, but corporations, rely on Peachcare, and that is a shame that they can inflate their profits while the taxpayers pick up the tab.