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Sunday booze, jurors refuse, Harland blues
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thinking Right’s free-for-all Friday. Pick a topic:
• Get a Post-it Note for the refrigerator. Buy booze on Saturday. The disproportionate anger of those who want Sunday sales is an example of the “me-centered” universe. We’re angry about any rule or law that won’t let us park four vehicles in the driveway or that doesn’t let us buy booze when we want. Me, me, me.
• Lynn Turner, convicted of killing her husband and then her boyfriend for their insurance, gets the mushy-middle’s version of capital punishment. Life without parole. The jury wants her dead, but they don’t want any role in her execution. So they sentence her to die in prison.
• The shrillness of the PeachCare debate should remind every fiscal conservative that no more government, nor any social program, should be created that they don’t intend to grow. Once created, politicians can never cut back without the Chicken Littles insisting that the sickest, neediest and most vulnerable are being denied essentials, true or not.
• I hate connecting laws that connect fees and fines to a specific program, when it’s not a genuine user fee, such as those golfers pay to maintain public courses. Adding $200 to the fines imposed for driving more than 85 mph anywhere, or 75 mph on two-lane roads, is an example. It’s created to help fund a statewide trauma network. Henceforth, a shooter in Atlanta or a knifer in Savannah should be fined an extra $500. Or do we tax guns, knives, ladders and automobiles?
• The changing world, Part 1: President Bush quotes two Iraqi bloggers who wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal on reasons for optimism.
• The changing world, Part 2: “Even Bob and I do online banking,” Margaret Reiser, the sole grandchild of check printer John H. Harland, told AJC columnist Maria Saporta. Bob is her husband. John H. Harland Co., an Atlanta institution and a Wall Street darling, churned out profits for 84 years. It’s being sold to a New York-based company.
• If British sailors weren’t in Iranian waters, as Iran claims, and as Global Positioning System coordinates refute, Iran has committed an act of war. Not that Britain can do anything but wait them out. You can’t be weak in a mean world. And Britain is.
• Call me to testify on anything this Congress is “investigating” and I’m taking the Fifth. And so, too, should officials of the Bush administration. Expect one witch hunt after another for two more years. Phony election-advantage political investigations breed cynicism, and destroy the credibility Congress needs for the real scandals.
• Ho hum. Another spelling bee. Another home-schooled winner. Shoman Kasbekar of Macon.
• Voters who lived 36 years ago in Fulton and DeKalb gave their consent to impose a one-cent transportation tax and to use it to buy bus and train service, as opposed to, say, improving roads or adding capacity. Other counties chose the latter. MARTA now wants to extend the tax from 2032 to 2047. The youngest voter granting permission in 1971 will be 79 years old when the tax expires in 25 years. Of course, without question, voters should be asked whether to extend it 15 years beyond that.
• Here’s a shocker: The National Organization for Women political action committee endorses Hillary Rodham Clinton. Wonder how they knew Condoleezza Rice wouldn’t get into the race. Danged premature, I say.
• A state law aimed at curtailing illegal immigration requires large contracting firms with public contracts to verify that potential employees are here legally. To which the president of the Associated Builders and Contractors of Georgia, Bill Anderson, responds: “Finding quality craft tradespeople has been a challenge for many, many years, and anything that could potentially affect that number causes great concern.” To get this straight: A law that forces contractors to hire only those who are lawfully here “could potentially affect” the pool of quality craft tradespeople?
• Don’t believe I would admit that: Circuit City will cut costs by laying off salespeople who earn above average for their assignments, including 80 in Atlanta, and replacing them with cheaper hires. This is every working American’s fear. Methinks the company has a public relations disaster on its hands.
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By Dillon
March 30, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
Seems you are inconsistent with the Right’s view regarding needless government intervention. Sunday booze sales is an example. It is not about “me, me, me”. It is about the State of GA interfering with a business owner’s right to sell a legal product on a particular day. I always hear the Right’s claim to wanting less government (which I agree with). This is just another case of political hypocrisy.
My small construction business has built about 15 homes. We started out hiring only American born contractors. The quality of the work was not first rate. I am still paying for warranty repairs on those homes, which means no profit for me. We used carpenters, plumbers, painters, etc. with questionable legal status to build the last 6 or 7 houses. The quality of work has been first rate and very few call backs. I am not saying there are no good American contractors. But I am saying my personal experience corresponds with Bill Anderson’s remarks.
Again, the hypocrisy is evident regarding Circuit City. The Right’s view is paying market rates for labor thus the fight against the minimum wage. Circuit City is honest about what they are doing. Why would you not admit that? I have said this before and will say it again: anyone who is narrowly focused on a particular political point of view (right or left) is bound to be either a Looney or a hypocrite.
By Sam Jam
March 30, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this
Wooten, you’re a two-faced moron. How ‘bout no church on Sundays, you jack-a*. Unbelievable, you simple-minded fool.
By Jeff
March 30, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this
Hey Jim….Methinks you are in a daze! Yes, one can plan ahead to pick up that bottle of wine for Sunday’s dinner party with friends. But I’ll bet even you have had days where it just doesn’t all get done.
I still find it incredibly ironic that while we can’t buy alcohol at Publix on Sunday, we CAN drink as much as we want while watching young women dance naked three feet away!
Seems more than a bit hypocritical to me.
By spaceman109
March 30, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this
morning all :)
personally, i am not sure how sunday alcohol aales would improve the planet. get yours on saturday or even friday.
as for this yelling back and forth over the u.s. attorneys being fired…this administration has only made things worse by changing their story so many times. first it was the fault of harriet miers; then it was some sort of miscommunication. at first we heard that ag gonzales was not directly involved in that decision making; now we know he was deeply involved. the administration has handled this situation so badly that they come across as the gang which cannot shoot straight.
jim, what is your problem with circuit city laying off knowledgeable people and replacing them with much-lower-paid i-know-nothing types? isn’t that how our glorious economic system works?
looks like circuit city has learned nothing from the home depot fiasco when that company did the same thing and watched their market share drop.
the circuit city situation is people’s exhibit a of management who are penny smart and dollar stupid.
By Will
March 30, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this
Republican hypocrisy is what got them beat last fall nationally and it is what will get them beat in ‘08.
Sunday alcohol sales is yet another example - less government control? Not as long as the Republicans are in charge.
By Mid-South Philosopher
March 30, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
Gosh, but I do feel safe that packaged beer sales will not threaten us on Sunday. Of course, this lack of legislation does not address the serving of legal drinks at selected restaurants in those counties that have authorized it…wait a minute…counties that authorized it…how did that happen? Doesn’t the General Assembly know what is best for all of us? What is all this foolishness about allowing local citizens to decide community values.
Oh, I get it that only applies to issues of ponography and local control of public schools when Kathy is too afraid to tackle the problem!
For my conservative friends, I, personally do not want any alcohol sales of any sort on Sunday, but, for my liberal friends, the decision should be left to the people of the selected communities, not to the rabble in the legislature.
This is all another example of where Republicans and Democrats are alike. Both pose threats to liberty!
As for pleding the fifth before Congress, too many of the members are too busy drinking the fifth or the quart or even the half-gallon!
All I can say after watching the Congress perform and the Executive branch respond is that we are in a mell of a hess!
Don’t re-elect anyone!
By Buy Danish
March 30, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this
Jim Wooten,
Sunday liquor sales are about “me, me, me” and have something to do with the irrelevant topic of people breaking rules and parking too many cars in the driveway??? Huh?
Following your nonexistent logic on this topic, I can unequivocably state that your obstinate opposition to letting people vote on this issue is all about you, you, you and the Iraq War.
Sounds pretty stupid, doesn’t it?
Jeez.
By Shar
March 30, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this
I’m glad that the jury sentenced Lynn Turner as their collective judgement saw fit rather than as vengance demanded. First, because a jury should, and thankfully almost always does, follow the dictates of their conscience, something they should be able to do without being derided as “mushy” or cowardly by people who were not present or responsible (Jim). Second, because that decision will save the state of Georgia hundreds of thousands of dollars in appeal costs and the higher housing costs of death row inmates, and I for one don’t want to spend any more tax dollars on a selfish murderess. Rotting is much cheaper. And finally, I rather like the idea of a woman who killed for shopping money to find herself permanently in orange and denied the hair products she so clearly finds necessary to life. The jury made the right call.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
I’m amazed at the amount of arrogance and holier-than-thou mentality of the ultra-right. It’s not about whether or not I want to buy alcohol on Sunday - it never has been for me, it’s about allowing me the opportunity to decide for myself whether or not I want to or not. If you want to call it ‘me-centered’, then go for it. I have my own words to describe Wooten and those like him who are so insistent of telling me how to live my life; but I’m too much of a gentleman to use them here.
By Dave
March 30, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
This issue is about time management. In Atlanta we commute over an hour one way each day or in a 5 day work week an average over 10 hours on the road commuting. 80% of Atlanta supports this issue and we have 5 million in population in Atlanta out of 9 million people. Sunday is a huge day for shopping and gas is headed back to $3 a gallon. Maybe we want to buy that microbrew that we have to drive 15 miles away or just want to do all our shopping on Sunday when we are off. Those in small town GA don’t have to face the problems of Atlanta traffic. The problems is money is the only voice in politics the wishes of 80% of 5 million voters is not important to our out of touch politicians any longer. We need to vote them out of office this crowd thinks we aren’t important that is the issue.
By Georgia Gal
March 30, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this
So turning a blind eye to ILLEGAL immigrants is totally an economic issue? Hmmmm, seems that was also the main argument for slavery for so many years! I know this is going to get me cussed and abused but if we want to see a prime example of uncontrolled immigration, we need look no further than the plight of the American Indian!
By Matt
March 30, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this
I’m amazed at the amount of arrogance and holier-than-thou mentality of the ultra-right. It’s not about whether or not I want to buy alcohol on Sunday - it never has been for me, it’s about allowing me the opportunity to decide for myself whether or not I want to or not. If you want to call it ‘me-centered’, then go for it. I have my own words to describe Wooten and those like him who are so insistent of telling me how to live my life; but I’m too much of a gentleman to use them here.
By Brett
March 30, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
I’m amazed at the amount of arrogance and holier-than-thou mentality of the ultra-right. It’s not about whether or not I want to buy alcohol on Sunday - it never has been for me, it’s about allowing me the opportunity to decide for myself whether or not I want to or not.
Matt, I say the same thing about you ultra-lefties every time I get my paycheck stub and look at how much social security was taken away vs. allowing me the opportunity to decide for myself what I want to do with my money. It won’t be long and I’ll be saying the same thing about you ultra-lefties and my medical care as well.
That road goes both ways Matt.
By Road Scholar
March 30, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this
So when did we elect Perdue and the other legislators to be God, let alone the only authority in our lives. Why can’t the voters in each county vote on Sunday liquor sales or transportaion funding? That way middle Georgia can stay in the 18th Century and the others compete with other states on quality of life issues. Also, where is the transportation funding bills…held hostage again by idiots that can’t see past their own pockets. Since we are remembering the Civil war, why doesn’t Atlanta succeed from this thuggery? These guys wouldn’t know exconomic develoment, air quality, and transportation benefits if it was handed to them!
By Barbara
March 30, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
Wow Jim. In short, I would just add “Amen” to the end of this one and call it a day….
I personally don’t care about Sunday alcohol sales. In fact, if it were available on Sunday, I’d probably find myself in the liquor store a time or two on a Sunday. But if the law doesn’t change, my liquor cabinet is always well stocked, so it doesn’t bother me.
With the utmost respect, I must disagree with my buddy Shar regarding Lynn Turner. I sure wish they would have given her the death penalty. Shar, you made some good points about the cost of appeals, and letting her suffer for life thinking about what she did, but the bottom line is that she viciously killed 2 human beings and she should pay the ultimate price for that.
I know that this will get the liberals going this morning, but….. time to bomb Iran. They have really crossed the line. Yes England is a little slow to retaliate, but they are our allies; we should help them out. Iran is just stepping up to take the place of Iraq in terms of violence against other countries.
I know you’re not surprised that NOW is supporting Hitlary….. That organization doesn’t represent all women; just the liberal ones. I have worked in a largely male workforce since I was 30 years old (for the last 11 years), and in my youth was also involved in a lot of largely male organizations (soccer teams being one). I’ve not been mistreated by men, and this man-hate organization is formed simply to push feminazzi agendas. It certainly doesn’t represent me, and it probably doesn’t suit Condi either. I bet she doesn’t give a rat’s a* that NOW endorsed Hitlary.
By Buy Danish
March 30, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this
Brett,
Come on. That is an asinine argument. Does letting people buy wine on Sundays take money out of your pocketbook involuntarily?
Allowing Sunday sales actually puts money into the tax coffers, but I digress.
Is the high pollen count affecting conservative thinking?
By Brett
March 30, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Me, me, me? What gives Jim? You are starting to sound like a whining liberal democrat meddling into the personal financial affairs of a conservative republican who wants to control more of his own money who is then labeled greedy and selfish (cry me an iceburg). Has the world turned upside down due to global warming?
By Tip
March 30, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this
OK, my mind is having a hard time focusing this morning. First, I read that Bob Barr is now lobbying for pot, and now Wooten is advocating the “Nanny State”. What next, Al Gore lobbying for the auto industry?
By Boomer
March 30, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
Circuit City is just the latest. My wife worked for a TV station in another state that led the market for years and offered its advertising salespeople an attractive commission structure. In waltzes a new GM who changes the structure to guarantee everyone loses a third of their income unless they more than quadruple their sales. Fortunately justice prevailed in this case, at least in part. The station is now last place in everything.
By Brett
March 30, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish, I highlighted certain words quoted by Matt to make a point. It’s not about the impact of Budweiser sales on Sunday versus FICA. It’s about who’s idea of what choice is more important. Hypothetically, if I had to choose between the two, I’d rather have an opportunity as Matt put it to invest more of my income than to buy Sam Adams on Sunday. Your mileage may vary.
By getalife
March 30, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this
Lots of whining in this one Jim.
Sorry harold.
Your comment on PeachCare is disgusting.
Why do you hate poor, sick children?
Circuit City is another shameful action for cheap labor.
By Brett
March 30, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
On ajc.com -
Alec Baldwin to help soldier with tuition.
If that girl’s family had any sense of self respect, they’d tell Mr. Baldwin to go jump off a bridge and take his money with him. I wouldn’t take money from some looney lib who has badmouthed the administration’s efforts in fighting the enemy for the last five years. What nerve.
By Referee
March 30, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
Matt and Brett are the same person arguing with him/herself.
Also, notice how Barbara does nothing but brown nose the posters with male screen names? What are you looking for dear?
By KG
March 30, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
Like most Republicans, you’re either selfish or just an idiot.
By Alvin
March 30, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
Circuit City firing their best employees and leaving just inept know-nothing salespeople?? Sounds like Bob Nardelli must have found a new gig at Circuit City.
By Darrel
March 30, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
Personally, Circuit City if off of my list to do business with considering how they treat their employees. However, just because you are or may be a “loyal” employee doesn’t mean that your company gives a “rats a$$” about you. It seems that I remember that it is reasons like this that unions were formed BY EMPLOYEES! But, alas! Southerners are terrorized by unions!
By Sagegirl
March 30, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
I don’t drink, but seems to me it’s just plain stupid not to have alchohol sales on sunday. And what’s the problem with allowing the people to vote. That is a democracy, right? Is the legislature worried it could pass?
Let’s face it. Georgia is still living in the dark ages, where politics and religion are joined at the hip, and the politians are more interested in making the bible toters happy than to stand up and do what’s right. Which just proves that there’s too many republicans in the political hen house.
Someone, please bring Georgia into the 21st century!!
By candide
March 30, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Let’s demand Sunday sales of booze. Not because we cannot plan ahead. But because the influence of Christian redneck is excessive. America is the only advanced country in which primitive Christian ideas are apparently taken seriously. Christianity is for kids, fools, and of course knaves.
By candide
March 30, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Let’s demand Sunday sales of booze. Not because we cannot plan ahead. But because the influence of Christian rednecks is excessive. America is the only advanced country in which primitive Christian ideas are apparently taken seriously. Christianity is for kids, fools, and of course knaves.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
Brett… Your assumption that I’m an ultra-leftie would be wrong. I’m actually very middle-of-the-road and would agree with you 100% as far as taxes. I’m 32 years old and get p/o’d for being forced to pay so much $$ when I know dang well when my times comes it’ll be long gone.
There is room in the middle, the problem is Georgia is run by those at the extreme right.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
Brett… Your assumption that I’m an ultra-leftie would be wrong. I’m actually very middle-of-the-road and would agree with you 100% as far as taxes. I’m 32 years old and get p/o’d for being forced to pay so much $$ when I know dang well that when my times comes it’ll be long gone.
There is room in the middle, the problem is that Georgia is run by those at the extreme right.
By Carlton Wyatt
March 30, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
To Jim and all you other bloodthirsty people so eager to start a war with Iran: are you going to join the fight? Are you putting yourself and your children on the front lines? Or are you sitting back in your comfy chair spewing vicious messages without any sort of sacrifice while others do your dirty work?
What’s wrong? Too weak to back up what you shout with action? You people make me sick.
By Barbara
March 30, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
Hey Referee, well for starters, how ‘bout I’m looking for you to make a valuable contribution to the discussion instead of simply calling names. Don’t you have anything relevant to add to today’s blog topics? There are many to choose from.
Brett, when I first read that story I thought the same thing (about the soldier and Alec Baldwin). But my mother’s pesky words are ringing in my head right now “if we look hard enough we can find some good in every person”. Ugghhh!!!! Mom, why’d ya have to say that so many times!!!!!! Anyway, I think the soldier and her family deserve a pass on this one. The story didn’t seem to be politically motivated; just Alec (whom I personally think is lower than a snake’s belly!) offering to help out one of our soldiers. It’s probably going to give a young girl a chance to live her dreams, and as long as Alec isn’t planning to ask her for any kind of propaganda in return, I say, let it go.
By Fall Line
March 30, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
I agree it’s a bummer to wake up after a wild Staurday night realizing that you drank up all of Sunday’s beer. I guess it calls for a trip to Wal-Mart for a case of mouthwash again.
By Realist
March 30, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
If British sailors weren’t in Iranian waters, as Iran claims, and as Global Positioning System coordinates refute, Iran has committed an act of war. Not that Britain can do anything but wait them out. You can’t be weak in a mean world. And Britain is
Great…now Britain is weak…they are our only ally in this mess of a war, and you call them Weak? Shame on you, Jim. You are a waste of flesh. Kill yourself!
By Buy Danish
March 30, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this
Brett,
Your explanation of your irrelevent analogy makes no more sense than the analogy itself.
You and Wooten are really stretching the boundaries of logic and common sense.
By Aquagirl
March 30, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
Yeah, Sunday beer sales are all about me, me, me. And the shopper who only buys groceries on Sunday. Or the retailer who loses thousands of dollars to another retailer due to goverment favoritism. And the residents who are embarrassed by out-of-towners rolling their eyes at our hicksville blue laws. And anyone who thinks any stupid meaningless law erodes respect for real laws. And me, me, me wackos who think it’s okay to impose their particular religious view on others.
And last of all, the self-centered who say “it doesn’t cause a problem for me, so who cares?”
How very me, me, me of you Jim.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Boycott Circuit City
People at my company just waited 15 months, when it used to be a year, for our annual merit raise that was considerably less then the rate of inflation.
Companies like that do not deserve ANY employees, let alone good ones.
By Matt_two
March 30, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
sorry, I am not the first Matt posting already.
Boycott Circuit City
People at my company just waited 15 months, when it used to be a year, for our annual merit raise that was considerably less then the rate of inflation.
Companies like that do not deserve ANY employees, let alone good ones.
By Brett
March 30, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
By Referee March 30, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
Matt and Brett are the same person arguing with him/herself.
Do you still stand by that statement Ref? I think the pollen count has everyone out of their minds.
By abc
March 30, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Not only will I never shop at Circuit City again, I regret the thousands I’ve spent there in home theater and everything else. Never again, for shame, how anti-American can you get?
By Captain Freedom
March 30, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
The Captain rejoices at the dawn of a beautiful Spring day, made all the brighter by the babe-a-licious Barbara. And of course, there is today’s Wooten tour de force (pardon my Frenchiness), a gift that just keeps on giving.
First off, let me jump in solidly with Barbara and Jim in decrying the insufficient severity of the Turner jury. For this woman, like so many others of the Captain’s long life experience who live only to hurt men, death is too good, but she should get it anyway. One look at her Black Widow mein sends the Captain’s little soldier into deep seclusion. I wish I could be the one to send her to her great reward.
As Rodney Dangerfield answered in response to an interviewer:
Q: Do you find it hard getting up in the morning?
Rodney: No, it’s just hard to find.
Thanks, I’ll be here all day.
Next up, the joy of being a conservative — one need not concern oneself with self-awareness or logical consistency. We are allowed — ney, even commanded — to follow our gut on the issues of the day. So, poo-poohing those who complain about government imposed restrictions on our actions are just a bunch of me first crybabies…unless it touches on one of the hot-button issues like the right to fire people who make too much money, the creeping Communislamicism of Social Security, or the rights of blastocyst-Americans to bear firearms.
By Brett
March 30, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
I’m sorry Barbara, but I still disagree with you on Baldwin. There is nothing that overgrown child can say or do to cover for his five year tirade against the Bush administration’s determination to destroy the enemy that wants to kill us all. As far as I’m concerned, taking money from him now would be like taking money from Jane Fonda in 1973.
By ctm
March 30, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
What? Are Saturday sales of booze still legal. Where is my representative’s phone number?
By HowsThat
March 30, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
Life without parole is a much more fitting punishment than the death sentence.
Life without parole allows the person to die a little bit everyday.
Unless of course you actually think being in prison is Living. LOL
By Referee
March 30, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this
Matt/Brett: Yes, I stand by it.
Babs: Brown noser.
By Filbert (thenut)
March 30, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
You missed the boat twice Jimbo. Sinday sales are not exclusively about “me, me, me” nor what the gov’t can or can’t do. It’s about an issue that should be so low in priority when compared to real concerns such as Georgia’s abysmal educational system, healthcare, lying politicians in DC, etc. AND remember, we are only one of three states than ban Sunday sales (can we say we’re still a little backwards down here). As for Lynn Turner, the reason (according to the jury who convicted her) that she was not sentenced to death was because they felt sorry for her children. Jim, believe me, there’s plenty actual and factual illogical nonsense upon which to roast liberals without resorting to inaccuracies.
By Grampus
March 30, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
So, the quality of American craftsmen is lacking to such a degree that the only assumed solution is to import illegal aliens into the country. Rome imported cheap labor while its own citizens lived in jobless poverty, with the exception of those doing the importing of course. America is going to regret selling off our children’s future for a quick buck today. Meanwhile you idiots argue about Sunday sales of booze.
By Brett
March 30, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish, perhaps the pollen is clouding your brain up a little bit. Are you telling me that allowing me the opportunity to decide for myself is only relevant to Sunday liquor sales and nothing else in life? Please answer with a simple yes or no since you appear to be greatly concerned about logic and common sense purportedly missing here.
By Captain Freedom
March 30, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
Also, Mr Wooten, if I may…
You are correct sir about the inherent lack of manliness in the British spirit. Once they quit flogging the wogs and caning children in school, their spirit of strength, domination, and senseless cruelty began to wither on the vine. One need only look as far as the sadly inbred Prince Charles for an example of emasculation run riot.
And Tony Blair!??! Please, girlfriend. (Picture the Captain snapping his fingers above his head and shifting his head from side to side like Star Jones). That man lost his stones and has been nothing but a poodle boy for the past many years. Yep, Britain is truly a nation of poofs and nancy boys if they won’t invade Iran.
Britain….it’s the new France. This morning for breakfast, along with my Freedom Toast, I am have a Pus3y Muffin. And when I go bowling this weekend, I plan to put a little Pus3y on the ball.
By Marvin Freeman (yes, that one)
March 30, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
El Capitan, when that sex change goes through, all you have to do is get caught at your pedophilia and you can deliver your verdict upon Turner.
By Captain Freedom
March 30, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
Brett,
Kudos to you sir for a sterling example of True Belief. But I would take your comment a step farther.
Accepting money from Alec Baldwin to pay for an education is not only wrong, but is de facto giving aid and comfort to an enemy of Our Leader and is therefore by it’s very commission an Act of Treason. Treason by a member of the military is punishable by death. Let’s not go off on half-measures here like the Turner jury. Let’s hang this little Islamoatheist as an example to anyone else who tries to rise above their station through the help of others. It will teach a lesson that everyone should learn.
By Dave
March 30, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
Isn’t the converse of “me, me, me” “you, you, you?” You’s had more support in the Legislature than me’s. “You” won. Now in addition to your satisfaction of buckling the me’s to your view of propriety, you chide them for being upset with their loss. You are an ungracious winner.
By jm
March 30, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
Looks like Carry nation would feel right at home with the nanny state republicans.
Regarding Circuit City - minimum wage means we would pay you less if we could (or in this case, can). Same applies to building contractors. By hiring the cheaper less skilled illegal labor, they drove the more expensive skilled american labor out of the market. The result is that my ten year old house has had more problems related to its construction than my parents 30+ year old house ever had.
As for W the incompetent’s boondoggle in Iraq, I find it insulting that almost four years after prancing on the deck of an aircraft carrier in front of that “Mission Accomplished” banner, W has the gall to ask for “patience”.
By Brett
March 30, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this
Matt at 9:48 - besides Sunday liquor sales, could you cite a few more examples of how the radical fundie right is affecting your personal life here in Georgia? For some reason, I don’t seem to be too affected, and I don’t even go to church. Not that I condone the radical right taking over legislation or anything, but I don’t lose sleep at night over what goes on in Cobb County. Glad to hear you’re not a radical socialized lib.
By Alec Baldwin
March 30, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
… overgrown child ??? Huhhhm.
By Shar
March 30, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
Why is it that having voters decide on Sunday liquor sales is “me me me” but having voters decide on the MARTA sales tax should be done “without question”? I hope it is not because Mr. Wooten believes he would agree with the decision of the voters in the second case but not the first. The right of voters to decide should not be predicated on the anticipated outcome of their votes.
By Dennis
March 30, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
Jim Wooten writes; “Don’t believe I would admit that: Circuit City will cut costs by laying off salespeople who earn above average for their assignments, including 80 in Atlanta, and replacing them with cheaper hires. This is every working American’s fear. Methinks the company has a public relations disaster on its hands.”
Mr. Wooten, show us a corporation that has moved off shore, or one that has reduced its staff (“cut costs”) and thereby increased profits for the stock holders that ever gave a damn about the people it laid off.
It’s the big business way, and you are a fan of big business, aren’t you?
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this
besides Sunday liquor sales, could you cite a few more examples of how the radical fundie right is affecting your personal life here in Georgia?
Brett - Well, I’m gay. ‘Nuff said. I’d love to chat w/ you some more, but you seem to be the person who isn’t willing to listen to anybody who disagrees with you, so there’s no point in even trying.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this
besides Sunday liquor sales, could you cite a few more examples of how the radical fundie right is affecting your personal life here in Georgia?
Brett - Well, I’m gay. ‘Nuff said. I’d love to chat w/ you some more, but you seem to be the person who isn’t willing to listen to anybody who disagrees with you, so there’s no point in even trying.
By Dave
March 30, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
So, I can still buy a rifle and ammo on Sunday. Cool! I can then take those purchases to Publix and take my beer and wine at gun point. I’m sure the constitution will protect me.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
besides Sunday liquor sales, could you cite a few more examples of how the radical fundie right is affecting your personal life here in Georgia?
Brett - Well, I’m gay. ‘Nuff said. I’d love to chat w/ you some more, but you seem to be the person who isn’t willing to listen to anybody who disagrees with you.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
besides Sunday liquor sales, could you cite a few more examples of how the radical fundie right is affecting your personal life here in Georgia?
Brett - Well, I’m gay. ‘Nuff said. I’d love to chat w/ you some more, but you seem to be a person who isn’t willing to listen to anybody who disagrees with you.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
besides Sunday liquor sales, could you cite a few more examples of how the radical fundie right is affecting your personal life here in Georgia?
Brett - Well, I’m gay. ‘Nuff said.
By DublDawg
March 30, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this
Jim:
Your take on the bill that would allow communities to decide for themselves whether alcohol could be sold on Sunday is flawed and poorly thought out, even by lifetime newspaperman standards.
First, Georgia is in a minority of what, 3 states, that still has a blue law? When you find yourself in that kid of minority, you know it’s extremely quirky.
Second, what is wrong with democracy in its purest form and providing communities the right of self-determination? The right preached that when it is a convenient euphamism, and eschews with equal vigor when it suits its purpose. I hope you and the others who are opposed to it have the good sense to knwo that if you do not want to purchase or consume alcohol on Sunday, this bill is not going to force you to do it.
By Captain Freedom
March 30, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
Well, it is a fine day here at the Freedom House. Mrs Freedom heard the Captain fulminating (Dusty: that means acting all upset) about that youg traitor Islamosympathiser who is accepting blood money from the Traitor Baldwin. Her suggestion was to allow the young woman to redeem herself by finding an untainted source of money and using that to pay for her schooling.
Well, the Captain pointed out that any instance of “free” money will only teach this youngster to learn to expect handouts, and that would lead to a wasted college education because she would just go on public assistance and breed like a rabbit to boost her welfare income as so many of her ilk are condemned to do by our nanny state bleeding heart do-gooders.
But, Mrs Freedom insisted that I mention this, Brett, since you are so upset over the issue. Perhaps you could step in and help this armed forces volunteer with her financial needs? I realize you are probably giving until it hurts in your support of the troops, though given your antipathy to taxes you are likely vigorously trimming your returns for the April filing deadline, and thus sacrificing in other ways. In fact, I’m sure you have already enlisted and are likely just waiting for your papers to ship out in the Glorious War on Terror.
But if you have any extra bandwidth, consider offering some practical help so the Baldwins of the world do not have these opportunities to stick it to the Man.
The Captain would like to help, but his payments to Circuit City for the home entertainment center are a bit stiff. But it’s worth every penny that does not go into the pockets of high-acheiving showoff employees. You have not experienced the real frisson (sorry, Frenchy again) of Freedom until you have watched O’Reilly in high definition on a 72” flat plasma screen with surround sound. Just the thought of it teases the Captain’s little soldier out of hiding.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
besides Sunday liquor sales, could you cite a few more examples of how the radical fundie right is affecting your personal life here in Georgia?
Brett - I’m gay. Enough said.
By Jim Wooten
March 30, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
The item concerning the John H. Harland Co. contains an error, based on a misreading of Maria’s column. Here’s the reader’s note: “Perhaps Mr. Wooten should take the time to read his own paper before writing his column. He quotes Maria Saporta’s column from Thursday, and does it incorrectly. Miriam Conant cannot be currently using online banking - she passed away in 2003. The quote was from her daughter, Margaret Reiser. Mr. Wooten is often critical of others not paying close attention to what they see, hear and read. Perhaps he should do the same.” Robin Eidle Decatur
By Bridget
March 30, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Unless and until Circuit City reverses their boneheaded and callous decision, I’ll never shop there again. I’ll also try to pursuade my friends and family to join me in my boycott.
By Captain Freedom
March 30, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
Okay Matt, we get it. You’re gay. Stop shouting about it. The Captain gets uncomfortably tingly when you Dorotheites flaunt your floozy this way.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
besides Sunday liquor sales, could you cite a few more examples of how the radical fundie right is affecting your personal life here in Georgia?
Brett - I’m gay. Enough said.
By Captain Freedom
March 30, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
If the Death Cultists of the Democratic Party had not gotten their way in the heartless murder of Terri Schiavo, Miriam Conant might still have a chance to enjoy the pleasures of online banking, shopping, and illegal file sharing. But I guess we have sunk so low as a society that we are willing to just let dead people stay dead.
I blame Bill Clinton and his evil Klingon wife.
By Mark
March 30, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Jim, must be nice to get paid to write a blog containing your ignorant views. BTW, your proctologist called. They found your head.
By Matt
March 30, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
Sorry…so many postings that it kept timing out; didn’t know it was posting them all!
By Grampus
March 30, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
Britain, and America by extension, have only themselves to blame for the latest Iranian “incident”. Show a weak face abroad not to mention at home, and someone is going take a poke at it. Once poked you can’t negotiate your way out of it from a position of weakness either. Iran knows they can get away with it not because we lack the capacity to do them harm, but because we lack the will. They wouldn’t be poking if they thought we had the will. This is just the beginning.
By Shar
March 30, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this
Captain, it’s worse than letting dead people stay dead. Live people are staying alive (witness Ms. Turner). Sick people are staying sick (PeachCare tossees). Sober people are staying sober (those stalwart Baptists and the Sunday sales law).
And disheartened people are staying disheartened.
By CWest
March 30, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
No Sunday beer and wine sales? Common sence conservatism? What a joke. Obviously not you Jim. I think Jim’s editorials should be called “Jim Wooten Restates the Republican Party Position on Everything” Jim, do you have an original thought in your head? Yawn!
By Gayboy
March 30, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Brett - I too am gay, but I don’t see its relevance to the subject matter at hand. You must NEVER have been employed in retail. I grew up in a family retail business and we fought the repeal of Blue Laws with everything we had. We wanted the day off. Now we are forced to open up whether we like it or not. We actually don’t do ANY more business because we are open on Sunday. People just don’t spend as much on Saturday. Before, people just adjusted their schedules. Most liquor stores are family owned businesses and they want to have a day off. If they repeal the Sunday restrictions, everyone has to work seven days a week. This proposed change in the law is only a support program for supermarkets and other chains that stay open already on Sunday. I am usually opposed to govenment regulation of the economy, but I take exception on this one. Plus, if you cannot go one day a week without buying a bottle of booze, then you have a real problem! It is not like you cannot go to a restaurant or a bar. If you want a drink on Sundays, go to Blake’s or buy it on Saturday!
By harold
March 30, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
“me-centered” universe?
the sunday sales vote, had it been allowed, would have been:
“me dont want to make extra trips to buy what me is buying”
versus
“me dont want you or nobody buying alcohol on sunday because me think sunday is special”
one “me-centered” universe wishes to reduce driving, traffic, consumption of resouces etc
the other “me-centered” universe wishes to impose their “me-centered” universe on everyone!
HOWEVER, the bill was about VOTING, and the “me-centered” universe that wishes to impose their “me-centered” universe on everyone QUASHED DEMOCRACY
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about the 4 cars in the driveway, who the heck let him build the doublewide driveway? why let him build it and THEN say he cant park cars on it? what did they think he was going to do on his double wide driveway? preach for jesus?
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of course british soldiers were in iran waters. did harold not predict something inflammatory would happen in the coming month with iran? well, there you go. it was done by design to provoke interest in war against iran. remember, if they “attack us” then it’s ok to start a war on them.
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did the recent home depot ceo retiree get a job with circuit city or what?
By Aquagirl
March 30, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
Most people aren’t affected by the radical fundies in everyday life. Freakish exceptions (who are just whiners) might include:
Anybody gay, plus anyone who pays taxes for children of gay couples who can’t cover the kids under their health insurance.
Anyone with Alzheimers, MS, or any other disease with potential treatments involving stem cell research. Any of their family members, friends, or those who pay insurance premiums or taxes to support long term care.
Anyone who thinks the government should be concentrating on police/fire/water services, adequate transportation networks, etc., instead of what retailer can sell you booze on Sunday.
That covers an awful lot of people.
By Retailer
March 30, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
Dear customer: I do not invite you, a public school teacher, to lean over my counter to look at my computer screen as I look up availability of an item for you. There is proprietary information on that screen that is none of your damn business.
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
I have to say that this is one of the best “Thinking-right free for all” that Jim Wooten has written in a while. He is right on the mark about everything today. I know that this one must really be driving the libs nuts!
By harold
March 30, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Most people aren’t affected by the radical fundies in everyday life?
there are still plenty of offices where you start a new job and the first question is “so, what church to you go to”
if you answer does not satisfy, as in “i go to x baptist” or “i go to y methodist on peachtree” or even “i attend j synagogue,” you may as well resign immediately as you will have no succcess at that company if you are a nonreligious one in a “christian” office. they are so big on “being nonjudgmental” and “hate the sin not the sinner” because everydamnthing they preach is “be judgmental” and “hate the sinner”
if you get duped into and then remain in an office like that, you are doomed to wacky christian crap beign left on your desk anonymously every few days!
By harold
March 30, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
oh, harold shoulda read the rest of that before regurgitating! sorry aquagirl
getalife, harold aint said nothing ‘bout no peach care.
peaches all look like butts anyway, so wipe them whichever direction suits your fancy. harold dont care
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
So Harold - would you have been in favor of “popular sovereignty” concerning the expansion of slavery before the Civil War? Think carefully before you start promoting unbridled democracy. We live in a Republic governed by laws and principles and we elect REPRESENTATIVES do make the laws and hopefully follow certain time-honored principles. Voting does usually sound like a good idea, but sometimes, certain things just should not be allowed. I’m not saying that there is anything wrong with Sunday liquor sales, I’m just challenging your argument about “voting” on everything.
By time for the truth
March 30, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this
The biggest snivelling pu$$ies in the world are the cut and run appeasing leftist vermin who wet themselves in their liberal cocaine sniffing American hating midtown Lofts, just lustily dreaming of attacking cops and burning American flags and effigies of American soldiers in their latest nauseating limp wristed bouts of demonstrating as:
stinky pinko lentil gobbling unwashed anti-globalist rabble against global whining
divisive enablers of the 15 million plus mostly mexican type illegals who the hate America crowd demand be allowed to freeload and commit crime forever and a day in the USA
official Pelosibitch and Turdtha supported cut and run from Iraq like yellowbellied headless lice ridden peacenicks on bad Cuban acid endlessly bleating their Bush hate
whilst CNN and aljazeeraBBC smugly cover the shrill sloganising gatherings of smallish clumps of liberal human scum gone bad that undeniably proves euthanasia done right in liberal circles can work wonders for America and the free world!!
Funny how virtually NO lefty appeasing turd has publicly condemned the most hateful of blubbery obese bloated lesbian dogturd O’Dumbell for its deranged paranoid now oft repeated lies that the USA attacked itself on 9/11 to start a war on towel head terror!! And ABC are just letting this treasonous sick puke wash unanswered over the heads of the moronic leftist doltish vapid liberal housewife wimmin who cretinously and unquestioningly lapup such imbecilic drivel!! Deport the criminal fat blubbery diike O’Dumbell NOW!!
Nice to see the craven weasel like leftist scumbag running the Cuban style yankkkee based Columbia University does nothing at all about the fascist greasy illegal sponger loving leftist thugs who violently and thuggishly stop public meetings on campus they dont like after just 90 secs!! Now we see how much leftist wankpigs respect the free speech of others!!
Time to carpet bomb Tehran, stop all Iranian petrol imports by sea and visit in anger the single Iranian oil refinery!!
We see how well the “official” moonie like disgusting, pathetic liberal grovelling policy of craven appeasing and bleat bleat “lets talk to everyone to see why they hate us” bollocks is working in the Iranian Hitler’s criminal hostage taking. If nothing else this is showing the cowards in the rest of the world why we will have to kill the leaders and completely destroy, sooner rather than later, the whole evil towel head terror machine.
And to those sullen ignorant should have been aborted wankers sneering at Britain for its inaction. Remember … this is an effing Labour Govt, which noisily panders to every non white terrorist thug on the planet - run by the corrupt to the core B Liar as he’s known back home … Baroness Thatcher would NEVER have taken this liberal appeasing cowards route.
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this
Harold - you prove once again that those who claim to want tolerance are the most intolerant. Todays anti-religious liberals are worse than the Puritans who left England and then imposed their theocracy on Massachusetts. In fact, those Puritan-types who want to regulate what the rest of us think or do are still in charge up there. They just call themselves liberals now.
By harold
March 30, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
“NO lefty appeasing turd has publicly condemned the most hateful of blubbery obese bloated lesbian dogturd O’Dumbell for its deranged paranoid now oft repeated lies”
maybe because no lefty appeasing turd watches that show?
or even knows who tftt are talking about?
By candide
March 30, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. The sale of Baptist Iced Tea should be illegal. It warps the brain and makes otherwise rational people susceptible to evangelical nonsense.
By Spaceman Spiff
March 30, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
PeachCare today, CarCare and GeicoCare tomorrow. Why not everyone can afford a car and insurance. Then it’s HomeCare, LawnCare, CollegeCare, VacationCare, Designer ClothesCare, Omaha SteaksCare, DisneyCare, and just about every other thing people used to have to work towards to obtain will now be free for everybody! I love ya democrats!
By Dan
March 30, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
A couple of ironies regarding sunday sales (which I am personally for) 1 people screaming about fundis and cons trying to control them, yet the law has been in place for years while the dems controlled the state and only now with rep control are we even having the discussion. (just shows dems only complain) 2 and this is really most important, life is pretty darn good when one of the most important political issues is whether or not we can buy booze on Sunday. So stop whining and raise a glass to living in the good ole USA
By Dan
March 30, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
A couple of ironies regarding sunday sales (which I am personally for) 1 people screaming about fundis and cons trying to control them, yet the law has been in place for years while the dems controlled the state and only now with rep control are we even having the discussion. (just shows dems only complain) 2 and this is really most important, life is pretty darn good when one of the most important political issues is whether or not we can buy booze on Sunday. So stop whining and raise a glass to living in the good ole USA
By harold
March 30, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
harold is cool with representative democracy until the representatives do not represent. at that point harold is cool with overthrow. listening, republicans? you did not represent us. you will be voted out!
harold is not antireligious at all. harold thinks religion is great for that sort of person. just leave harold out of it. religion is about like gay.
gay is great for that sort of person but leave harold out of it. go get gay married and have a happy life but dont try to make harold gay or christian.
if you want to spend all your time at the gay bath / church, go for it! just don’t put a flier on harold’s desk for it.
By Aquagirl
March 30, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
Truthsayer, the conservatives want blue laws to enforce their sabbath of Sunday. Jews can just get over it. Conservatives also pass out voting guides and actively organize churches for political purposes.
Let me guess—- you believe liberals removing a garishly oversized monument of the Ten Commandments from a courthouse is telling other people what to think. But conservatives putting the garishly oversized monument there isn’t. M’kay. You need to go join Sadie Fields in her sinking ship of pinch-faced busybodies.
By Killin' Time
March 30, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
Wooten wrote, “Ho hum. Another spelling bee. Another home-schooled winner. Shoman Kasbekar of Macon.”
Jim,
Shoman is 12 years-old. Why do you choose to publish this young man’s name in the newspaper in such a negative light? Do you dismiss this seventh-grader’s accomplishment because of his foreign sounding name?
According to his father, this boy spent two to three hours per day preparing for the spelling competition, and he deserves nothing less than our praise and support for when he competes in the national spelling tournament.
Another day — another contemptible display of race-baiting by Wooten.
By getalife
March 30, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
harold,
I was talking about this:
“Get a Post-it Note for the refrigerator. Buy booze on Saturday. The disproportionate anger of those who want Sunday sales is an example of the “me-centered” universe. We’re angry about any rule or law that won’t let us park four vehicles in the driveway or that doesn’t let us buy booze when we want. Me, me, me.”
Your beef is with Jim.
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I will continue to support the prohibition against sale of alcohol on Sundays, but only if potential buyers are subject to the death penalty. I don’t want any laws without teeth in ‘em.
Juries are not competent. I would abolish the jury system entirely. Most of our judges are pretty good, and when they aren’t, we can get rid of them.
PeachCare is a better example of Jim’s “all about me” modern world. Even though the death rate will remain 100%, let’s not save any of our capital to improve the next generation, let’s spend it all, now, on doctors. Strategic planners at work there, obviously.
Thank you, Jim, for the essay on fines. Laws intended merely to impoverish our population are an “Obamanation.” You all saw that funny story about the trademark office rejection, didn’t you?
Credit President Bush with recognizing genius whenever and wherever he sees it. That is why I write here everyday. I’m sure he hangs on my every word.
I think my friend TFTT @ 11:22 is light in his recommendation on Iran. I think the Persians need to be punished more severely. The Brits have enough nukes to apply an appropriate punishment, but I think TFTT needs to add another target or two, e.g., Qom.
Perhaps they need to create a special spelling bee division for those public school student, since they suffer such a handicap.
Not only should all taxes expire within a generation, all criminal laws and all government agency charters ought to expire every 20 years, requiring renewal at least. In fact, for the agencies and for laws restricting immigration, there ought to be a lapse period of five years before renewal, to determine whether there is really a problem addressed by the legislation.
The only surprise to me is that the National Association of Gals did not endorse the only true woman in the race, Edwards.
I bought my first stereo system from a predecessor company of Circuit City, the old Dixie HiFi. Don’t think I’ve bought anything there since then. They are now competing with Walmart.com – not sure a commissioned sales force has a future in an internet world.
One final tidbit, on this date in history (1950), U.S. President Truman denounced Senator Joe McCarthy as a saboteur of U.S. foreign policy. Bush ought to act more like Truman, and denounce the modern saboteurs.
By Hey Killer
March 30, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
How stupid are you? Wooten was not insulting the young speller, but bragging on home schooling.
By harold
March 30, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
Oh! ok getalife. harold misunderstooded, jim’s commnets on peachcare were disgusting. harold thought maybe harold had got hijacked earlier or something (and then deleted)
dont worry too much about harold. harold has full bar of liquor though he doesnt even drink liquor but maybe twice a year, beer fridge full of beer gets refilled at half full like the gasoline tank in the car, and probably 30 wottles of brinking dine setting about.
harold has lived here forever and has made accommodations that should not have to be made for a religion to whcih harold does not belong.
every time somebody wastes gasolien making a special trip on non-sunday to get beer/wine becaue of a sunday ban, it is essentialy a government enforced i-am-a-non-christian fee that you have to pay
there should not be a state enforced penalty for not having the same beliefs as christians!
By getalife
March 30, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
Jim is a member of the wingnut insurgency.
Their goal is to destroy the middle class, increase military spending to end entitlements for the poor and tax cuts for the wealthy.
The corporate utopia agenda for the North American Union and cheap labor will complete their victory.
The wingnut insurgents who cheer this on are traitors, pure and simple.
By mf
March 30, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
Go to hell Wooten. I think someone who won’t let me by beer and wine on Sunday because their fairy tale says it’s bad is living in a “me-centered universe.”
By Ms. Writer
March 30, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
• Lynn Turner? Sympathy for a killer just more tax money wasted, I’m sure she’ll live to be 105.
• PeachCare runs out of money, but the money pot that pays for Emergency Medicaid for illegals is running strong as they birth 4 kids a piece!!! Thanks government for protecting your own citizens, youre the best! Cut it all off, maybe that will discourage people from having kids they can’t afford. • Circuit City HAS 80 employees to fire?
By Ms. Writer
March 30, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
• Lynn Turner? Sympathy for a killer just more tax money wasted, I’m sure she’ll live to be 105.
• PeachCare runs out of money, but the money pot that pays for Emergency Medicaid for illegals is running strong as they birth 4 kids a piece!!! Thanks government for protecting your own citizens, youre the best! Cut it all off, maybe that will discourage people from having kids they can’t afford. • Circuit City HAS 80 employees to fire?
By RWH
March 30, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
It is many opinions that alcohol business owner should be granted permission to sale it. Then, it is others that they should not. What now!A bill that guns can be carried in cars, this might become the “Wild-West” in the 21 Century. Both bills should never have taken any point of views…by reaching the floor of this state. It appear that we have forgotten about common sense. Guns kill when they are in the wrong hands; and we do have those with chips on their shoulders and will shoot claiming self-defense! Both bills are not part of this society which we know. My opinions only!
By Killin' Time
March 30, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
Pretty stupid.
Jim,
My sincere apologies.
By harold
March 30, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
sure the home schooler won the speeling bee. somebody’s mama thought spelling was realy important, so they spell 7 hours a day. let’s see how that kid does at the math fair or the science competition. harold is guessing not so good comparatively
By John Edwards
March 30, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this
Hey J(umbo)B(owel)M(ovement). Say that to my face and I’ll change your sex for you.
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this
Aquagirl - you are living in a glass house here. Don’t throw any stones! Democrats are offenders #1, 2, and 3 on this issue. Ever been to an African-American Church or a synagogue at election time? Bill Clinton and DumGore were constantly raising money in churches. Barak and Hitlery also just recently did the same in Selma - the civil right comemoration was just a backdrop for raising the money.
Also remember the scandal surrounding Gore and Clinton raising money from the Buddhist monks. Conservatives actually do a minimum of that. Most main-line churches are made up of people from many political views. One of my best friends is a dyed in the wool liberal who is a deacon and Sunday School teacher at First Baptist Church Forest Park.
Sorry to burst your stereo-type bubble with facts.
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
Dear John @ 12:12, I’m sure you’ll accomplish your task by channelling dead babies or similar science.
By time for the truth
March 30, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
jbm
I obviously was extremely deeply worried about being gratuitously branded a naughty warmonger by the resident supine leftist appeasers on here. Such unfair beastly horrid opprobium is just so hard to live with … its unjust and unwarranted and unAmerican.
I personally think that we in the west should IMMEDIATELY (this weekend) use Iran as the perfect testing ground to see if nuclear weapons can - on demand - trigger earthquakes in a few dozen places. The so called holy s** of Qom should NO longer exist … I had simply assumed that it had been wiped out years ago by Ollie North and the chaps … no matter … add it to the list … but anthrax would be a better weapon than a few mushroom clouds - then, after we get moveyourbowels.org and codepinko scum types to clean up the anthrax without wasting any money on masks or protective suits we can dismantle the poisonous mosques and use them as 1000 Arabian Nights themed casinos in Vegas plus keep a few as replacement prisons for club Gitmo. We can paint the minarets with blue and white Star of Davids and use them down on the border to help The Minutemen look out for illegal mexican types and towel head terrorists trying to slither into the USA.
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
Killin’ Time - If you were a little brighter you would have seen that he was extolling the value of home-schooling NOT making fun of anyone’s race. I believe he was commending the young person who won the bee. You are the racist jumping to conclusions, me thinks.
By John Edwards
March 30, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
If butt-kickin’ is a science, then, yeah, I guess so.
By Killin' Time
March 30, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
Truthsayer at 12:18,
No doubt, you read the posts at 11:54 and 12:10. Apparently, it went over your head too.
How many times do you plan to post today, Truthsayer? Are you going for the record?
You’re a jacka$$ looking for a fight, me thinks.
By Captain Freedom
March 30, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
Truthsayer brings up a good point, though he doesn’t realize it. Lucky for him, the Captain is here to help.
The whole episode of Gore trying to bilk the Buddhist monks for campaign money shows just how stupid the Dumbocrats are. Everybody knows those rice eating idolators take a vow of poverty. It makes as much sense as trying to raise campaign funds in a public housing project. Another Demoncrat stronghold, HAH!
No, we True Belief Christians have taken no such vow of poverty, because that’s for LOSERS, like that old Islamoatheist who said “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”
Our God wants us to be wealthy. And he wants that for two reasons. First, so we can enjoy the riches of His creation, especially the 72” plasma screen kind.
And second, if we are wealthy, we have plenty of money to give to Right Thinkers who are working to bring the Kigdom of Heaven to Earth right now, in places like Iraq and Guantanamo.
So let the Loser Libs go begging from the rice bowl beggars, see where it gets em.
By Buy Danish
March 30, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
Brett,
Sunday liquor sales are a local issue, and have zero, zilch, nada to do with Social Security ro any Federal program.
It’s like saying that local SPLOST or bond referendums can be compared to The Iraq Funding Bill.
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Killin’ Time - sorry, I did miss those posts. I don’t know why mine are taking so long to post. Again, I apologize. In light of your corrections of yourself I was hasty in my judgment.
By Realist
March 30, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
Someone should really do a “Where Are They Now?” with past spelling bee champs.
By Buy Danish
March 30, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
Oops. “ro” is “or”.
By Ron Divine
March 30, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
Time for the truth and truthsayer post from the same computer. First, time bends over the keyboard, while truth “reads,” over his shoulder. Then they change places.
By Noelle
March 30, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
I find it hilarious that Republicans, who are always talking about keeping government out of the way of business, keep fighting to keep the ban on Sunday alcohol sales in place. Whatever happened to “let the market decide”?
It’s even more ironic that you want voters to decide on the state flag and, as you say here, extending a 1-cent transportation sales tax — but you don’t want them choosing whether they can buy (or sell) alcohol on Sundays.
By harold
March 30, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
Supposing Mormons took over and banned the sale of coffee on Fridays.
With existing precedent, they could not be stopped, eh?
By Aquagirl
March 30, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
Yeah? show me the liberal equivalent of a Ralph Reed.
Sorry, Repubs have made a political killing exploiting the 700 Club crowd. Those people aren’t like your liberal Baptist friend. They’re a bunch of theocrats, and the GOP has given them the keys to the party in exchange for a hard-core base of voters.
It’s hysterically funny the theocrats are now a millstone around the GOP’s neck in opposing Sunday booze sales. They’ve touched on an issue that affects more than a picked-upon and disliked minority, so average voters are slamming the attempt to dictate morals through laws. In the process, they’re seeing the hypocrisy of a party that claims to be about “small government” and “personal responsibility”
That’s why Jim has to get out and shill for them now, using weak reasoning like telling us to buy post-it notes. Sad.
Democrats/liberals at least admit they want to coddle you. Sure, they exploit religion and churches. But they don’t even appear on the same playing field as the Repub/conservative unholy alliance. It’s like tee-leaguers vs. MLB.
By harold
March 30, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
troothsayer provides facts?
or anecdotes?
and what anecdotes not?
evidences
By For the Record ....
March 30, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Yesterday’s “Myth of Voter Fraud” piece in the Washington Post drove to the heart of the US attorneys scandal. That is, the fired attorneys failed to disenfranchise enough minority voters to satiate Karl Rove voracious appetite for winning elections at any cost — even at the expense of destroying our most fundamental and precious right to vote.
The piece linked to the Purcell v. Gonzalez voter ID decision, which vacated an order by the Court of Appeals and allowed Arizona’s impending election to proceed. However, there was no shortage of light in Justice Kennedy’s opinion, which emphasized the lack of time before the election to resolve the factual disputes. Justice Steven’s concurrence also indicated that facts — not rhetoric — will determine the ultimate disposition of these types of laws:
”Allowing the election to proceed without enjoining the statutory provisions at issue will provide the courts with a better record on which to judge their constitutionality.At least two important factual issues remain largely unresolved: the scope of the disenfranchisement that the novel identification requirements will produce, and the prevalence and character of the fraudulent practices that allegedly justify those requirements. Given the importance of the constitutional issues, the Court wisely takes action that will enhance the likelihood that they will be resolved correctly on the basis of historical facts rather than speculation.”
Given Georgia Voter ID sponsor Rep. Sue Burmeister’s overt racism (e.g., her statement that if blacks in her district “ … are not paid to vote they don’t go to the polls”); the lack of any evidence of anything more that isolated instances of voter fraud in Georgia; the huge amount of disenfranchisement that will likely ensue if the law is enacted; and the essential intelligence and human decency of the new conservative Justices Roberts and Alito – the Georgia Voter ID law will never come close to passing muster in the US Supreme Court.
Real conservatives – those who love our country and our Constitution – will applaud when this pernicious piece of garbage is consigned to the scrapheap of history, alongside disgraced political hacks like Karl Rove and Alberto Gonzalez (and, let’s hope, dim-witted bigots like Sue Burmeister.) If we are fortunate, the damage they’ve caused to our great nation can be undone when men and women of honor and principal are restored to positions of power both here and in Washington DC.
By harold
March 30, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
NO! NO! NO!
No more “men and women of honor and principal”
THAT IS HOW WE GOT DUBYA!
“I am a compleat failure and idiot but by God i never cheat on my wife” and look where we are, stuck with a lying cheating murdering fatal war criminal
By Brett
March 30, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
Sigh. Ok you win Buy Danish. I cannot compare supporting a decision that supports an opportunity to make a personal choice except when said choice opportunity is about local issues only or national issues only versus national issues vs. local issues on said opportunities to make a personal choice. - breaths again now
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
Aquagirl - sorry to burst your bubble with facts again. The Rev. Jesse Jackson comes to mind. So does the Rev. Louis Farrakhan. So does the Rev. Al Sharpton. Jesse is the biggest though. The conservative religious organizations don’t usually raise their money IN THE CHURCH ON SUNDAY. In fact, that is a violation of IRS rules, but many liberals do it anyway and dare the IRS to enforce the rule. That has been a bone of contention for years, but most conservatives are loathe to say anything about it because of the fear of being called racist.
But there is NOTHING wrong, liberal or conservative, with religious organizations backing candidates and giving them money as long as they are up front about it. The Social Gospel Movement was a wonderful agent for change during the early 20th Century.
I am just pointing out that it does happen both ways. Deal with it.
By getalife
March 30, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
I think it is time to declare war on the wingnut insurgency.
The middle class and poor are not getting representation in government.
No taxation without representation.
By time for the truth
March 30, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this
Got all six just released 2007 remastered and extended Doors studio albums yesterday - my local Walmart surprisingly had them all for under $10.
Wonderful stuff … Morrison Hotel has several extended superb studio takes of the very talented drug crazed hippy Morrison honing Road House Blues to perfection!! LA Woman has different mixes of some tracks … some filler for sure, but well worth having all the studio albums!!
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection …
just one superb line from the sublime 11 plus minutes of When The Music’s Over.
By Captain Freedom
March 30, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this
Again, Truthsayer stumbles across some Truth (like blind squirrell beneath an oak tree), but fails to gather the nut.
It is of course true that we True Belief Conservatives are hampered by our fear of appearing racist. (It especially saddens me to think of the way poor TFTT has to carefully filter his thoughts to make them more palatable to the tender eyes visiting this forum.)
For if it were not for this constraint, our arguments could be more forceful, more powerful, more Kryptonic to the Stupormen of the limpwristed left.
We could unleash the mighty power of our disdain for the wetbacks and darkies, for the Sorosjewcabal, for the welfare Queens with their Cadillacs and Kool cigarettes. We could point out how good things were “back then” when people “knew their place”.
We could proudly admit to pollsters that we had no intention of voting for anyone with dark skin, even the Sapphic Condoleeza (for you see, we fear being pegged as homphobic, even though we hate their sin, while Loooooooving the sinner).
We could support good White Christians like Burmeister and David Duke, we could proudly fight when Trent Lott is vilified for yearning for them old times that are not forgotten, when we wave our Stars and Bars of Heritage, when we tut-tut at “those people” and their helpless rutting and breeding.
We could admit that we hate and fear anyone of Arabic or Persian descent, that we think Mosques should all be torn down, or at least placed next to pig racing tracks. We could embrace profiling as a useful tool to speed up OUR movements through airports while only those swarthy terrorist-looking types undergo search, and hopefully, siezure.
Yes, if only Conservatives weren’t so afraid of being seen as bigoted. Why then we’d show the world a thing or two.
By Larry
March 30, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this
Wanting the right to vote on Sunday beer sales is “me, me, me?” No, no, no. It is one set up people imposing their religous beliefs on everyone else. There is no other justification to it. The norm (which is short for “normal,” by the way) in this country is Sunday beer sales. Those who oppose the right to even vote on Sunday beer sales are actually the ones who are saying me, me, me. As in, my, my, my religous beliefs about alcohol are so important that I can’t allow you to have the right to make your own decision on an otherwise legal activity.
But put it another way, Jim. If Sunday beer sales were currently legal, how would you justify passing a law to outlaw it?
Let’s just take it a step further—seriously. If Sunday beer sales are so offensive, I can’t imagine why we are not outlawing drinking on Sundays—all drinking, public, private, in your own home. Wouldn’t that make the folks who oppose Sunday beer sales even happier? And then, if not drinking on Sunday is good, not drinking during the rest of the week would be even better. Wait. Isn’t that how we justified Prohibition? Is that what you are advocating, Jim?
By Richard
March 30, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this
I always appreciate the views you write about though we are usually on opposite sides of the issue.
I rarely buy alcohol yet don’t understand how a legal product can be restricted from being sold on certain days. Since cigarettes cause cancer or emphysema in so many people, why are they not restricted…especially on Sundays? The product should be sold or not sold without restriction on a particular day. I believe you are being inconsistent with your in that it is not about “me, me, me”. It is about the State of GA interfering with a business owner’s right to sell a legal product on a particular day. If you truly want less government intervention, why do they intervene in the legal selling of a product (except on the 7th of a 7-day week)?
As to Circuit City, it devastates me a company can so blatantly declare why they are doing what they are doing. On the other hand, it has been your view that paying market rates for labor is the right way to do things as we avoid raising the minimum wage. That’s what they were doing in this case and those people receiving the market wage are now being replaced.
Choose a side and stick to it; quit waffling for the convenience of the topic being argued!
By time for the truth
March 30, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
Its very revealing that a number of the leftist afterbirth (come on anal obsessive stalker slither out…) on here gleefully and repeatedly ventilate archetypal liberal bigotry and racism against racist hippety hop gangbanging blacks, greasy illegals and bloated obese puff adder mouthy yankkkee lesbians like O’Dumbell and queer child molestor types like NAMBLA and the possum humping inadequate dogsqueeze inbred rednekkk!!
The turgid turd Lance Corporal Syphilis is one of the worst offenders for leftist racist/anti-fa ggot hate. If Syphilis puked its intolerant garbage up at a Sore-os funded moveyourbowels.org Bush hate rally she’d get lynched by the Bush hate crowd for being hateful to those who hate Bush.
By Buy Danish
March 30, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
Brett,
Sigh. You are wise to concede.
If there was a law that said you could not withold Social Security taxes on Sundays then your analogy might have some merit.
By Candy
March 30, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
Homeschooled spelling bee winners are further evidence of the effectiveness of smaller class sizes (as if we needed it). As taxpayers, we need to insist on smaller class sizes for students at ALL levels of education.
By Aquagirl
March 30, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
Truthsayer, you’re right that political parties have always used churches, religion, and God. Have Democrats directly sought contributions from churchgoers, in violation of IRS laws? Maybe. But I’m not sure that Jesse Jackson passing the plate down on Auburn avenue has produced much cash for the Democrats.
The Republicans haven’t so much raised cash as they have co-opted God. It was an open GOP tactic in the ‘04 elections to get gay marriage bans on the ballot, in order to bring out the theocrats. Energizing the base was the phrase used. It allowed them to use evangelicals, knowing that they would vote Republican just on a “biblical” basis. Nothing else mattered, even Republican stances that might not be in line with WWJD.
Would the Democrats do stuff like that if they were smart enough? Sure. But really, Ralph Reed has tons more influence in political circles than Jesse Jackson. Ralph sums up the ick factor well…accepting money from one tribe to squish the competition from another in a business, and using Jesus and churchfolk to get it done. If anyone would pay Jesse Jackson to do the same, they’d get ripped off.
Oh, and your glorious Social Gospel movement brought us the only Constitutional amendment to ever be repealed. Glorious indeed. History teaches that the Jesus as a Precinct Captain crowd will eventually fall from power, and go into the loser bin of history. Bush has a biiiiiig spot waiting for him.
By harold
March 30, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
as a taxpayer, harold would prefer ALL children be homeschooled and the public school system be disbanded and shut down.
pay for your own damn children and their education, breeders!
you call it welfare when your paycheck goes to somebody else’s children and you complain about that
how about when harold’s paycheck is wasted on “educating” your idiot children who consistently place last in national exam scores?
By Dusty
March 30, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
Ah Jim Wooten,
You were off to such a poetical start this morning. You know…booze, refuse and blues. But then came the petite faux pas.
Not to worry, Jim. We all read in a hurry and make little mistakes. For instance, I read the Captain’s miasmic morning meanderings and thought that he said he was “fumigating”!
Well, I knew that was quite the proper procedure for the misleading metaphors of the Captain’s mien (for Cap’n—mien means bearing or aspect). But alas, he was only “fulminating” which, in his case, means getting full-of-it.
But back to poetry and my favorite lines from that copacetic scribe Omar khayyam in his Rubaiyat:The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on; nor all thy Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
Now, those are nice words but the internet has brought about a few changes. We correct our lines without a tear. So here’s to you without a single sniffle. Keep up the good work.
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
Captain Freedom - you are no more a conservative than I am a Buddhist. You are making the assumption by your ranting that you do indeed think that conservatives are racists.
I was making a point that SOME conservatives are afraid of being called racists. Liberals, many of whom are racists, in a very subtle and insidious way, never worry about that because they can claim to have the interests of the poor at heart. They push affirmative action, for instance, because they truly believe that certain “minorities” cannot make it without “help.”
I have sat and listened to this explained to me in all sincerity. The racism of these condescending twits is palpable. However, whenever I talk about the inherent unfairness and racism involved in such quota programs for any reason, I am immediately labled as racist. I just want a level playing field. Discrimination is discrimination. Using skin color or religion or ethnicity as a reason to exclude anyone is wrong. I thought that was what the purpose and goal of the civil rights movement. I also remember that Senator Hubert Humphrey was asked if such “programs” or “policies” would arise because of his legislation and he said NO. He stated that these new policies would just level the playing field.
Now I will prepare for the hatred and vitriol which will be spewed my way for this position.
By harold
March 30, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
inherent unfairness and racism involved in such quota programs for any reason?????
how dare you troothsayer?
you have finanly said some truth! cut it out!
By GodHatesTrash
March 30, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
Why did Dumbya have to quote furriners about our wonderful successes in Iraq? He could have just come to the Woo-ten Klan blog and quote some of the delusional morons here like Andi, tftt, jbm, realisp, @@, Dusty, RW, Bi Danish, Markanus - ad nauseum…
Dumbya imports Iraqi stupidity - like the US doesn’t have enough of its own.
By Captain Freedom
March 30, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Your poet of choice today is a filthy Islamoatheofascist. What next, a quote from the Quran?
Purge your bookshelf.
Truthsayer, “you are no more a conservative than I am a Buddhist.”
Namaste to you, too, good sir!
By Tom
March 30, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
A few weeks ago….and at the recommendation of David Shafer….Senator Dan Moody, an opponent of the Sunday alcohol sales bill SB137, was added to the Regulated Indistries and Utility Committee, presumably to help bog it down. For those not familiar, this bill would have (if passed) allowed local city/county governments in Georgia to let their residents vote on Sunday alcohol package sales if that municipality already had legalized sales the rest of the week.
Moody is quoted in a related article stating, “I would like to see us leave Sunday as a day we’re not selling alcoholic beverages in any fashion.”
Yet, on his website moodyforgeorgia.org, Senator Moody says, “Government efficiency is a goal that is not only attainable in Georgia, but should be expected. I believe that the government entity closest to the people should be the first choice when undertaking public tasks. Only if they are unable or unwilling should a larger government entity take up the task.
“In practice, the task should first be tackled by the community or city and if the city cannot handle it, then the county. Next, the state; and only if no smaller unit can possibly do the job should the federal government be considered. This is merely the application to the field of politics of that wise and time-tested principle of never asking a larger group to do that which can be done by a smaller group. It is more cost efficient and the results are tailor made for the community.”
So, Dan….which is it? Are the local governments simply unwilling to handle this themselves, or unable?
Or maybe when it comes to matters you base on your faith, a bit of hypocrisy is warranted in your eyes.
By Kris
March 30, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this
The “I’m okay with taking away your freedom since it doesn’t affect me” excuse is bad no matter who uses it. It’s used on both sides of the political spectrum - Wooten just used it on the Sunday alcohol sales issue, and the other side uses it with their cries to tax the rich. Freedom is the same no matter which side you’re on, and freedom always means that somebody gets to do something you don’t like or don’t agree with.
By harold
March 30, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
about that “guns in cars in employers’ parking lots”
how exactly is an employer supposed to know an employer has a gun in his car in the parking lot???? oh they wouldnt know.
right. so why did this bill even exist???? to provide for bragging rights, one reckons
harold has had a gun in his car in the parking lot for 16 years now and the employer policy has never made one lick of difference becasue harold has never cared to brag or boast about it to coworkers.
y’know, EVERYBODY who drives to work has AMERICA’S MOST DEADLY WEAPON in teh parking lot: their car!
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this
Aquagirl - you are again on very thin ice. I have seen the anti-Iraq War folks use the Catholic Conference of Bishops positions on the war and other social isssues when they think that it is their favor. They then condemn the church for its positions on birth control and gay rights. I also remember how the Kennedys used being Cahtolic as a weapon! I have also seen people use religious bigotry the same way. Many on the left today are as vitriolic in their anti-semitism as the KKK!
Liberal Christians were also in the forefront of the civil right movement. You seem to forget that the group at the forefront was the Southern Christian Leadership Conference.
Democrats have also taken a lot of grief lately in Michigan for raising money in mosques from suspect Muslim groups.
Again, I think you are on very thin ice on this one. Ralph Reed is also pretty much out of politics at this time anyway.
By James
March 30, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this
Kris,
Attempts to “tax the rich” are not consistent with the idea of “taking away your freedom since it doesn’t affect me”.
It’s a right-wing lie that liberals don’t pay taxes or are not among the middle and upper classes. Don’t be so gullible.
By Dusty
March 30, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
Captain oh Captain,
I see you have been “fulminating” your fumigation with alacrity. But a pox on you and your namecalling.
The dear Omar Khayyam is but a fine gentleman who is satisfied with a loaf of bread, a jug of wine (but not on Sunday, harold) and thou beside me singing in the wilderness.
Believe me, he is no Islamowhatever! He might even be a good conservative. We do have our moments, you know. Blogging in the wilderness! Ah yes..
By Thinkin' Out Loud
March 30, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this
Aquagirl at 2:05,
I don’t believe your “liberals/Democrats” are too incompetent approach is valid.
Christians from both the right and left propose and advocate policies that are consistent with their values. For example, Christians from the left seek government policies to help the less fortunate while Christians from the right (inconsistent with their usual pronouncements for smaller government) seek to have government ban alcohol sales on the Sabbath and/or prevent homosexuals from marrying one another. Two different mindsets read the same Bible, but come away with very different lessons and priorities. Fair enough.
However, the important distinction is that the Christian left respects our Constitutional right to freedom of religion (and freedom from religion); the Christian right does not. Contrary to the Constitution, the Christian right seeks to place Judeo-Christian symbols and impose Judeo-Christian prayers and creeds wherever and whenever they can get away with it: courtrooms, classrooms, halls of Congress and state legislatures, public school events, currency, etcetera. They also seek to use taxpayer funds to drive children out of public schools and into Christian schools.
In addition to having no respect for the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the Constitution, the Christian right doesn’t respect the belief systems of others — period. If they had their way, all of America’s children, including children of Muslims, Hindus, atheists, Buddhists and agnostics, would be attending Falwell/Robertson/Dobson-operated madrasahs.
Yes, there’s significant difference between advocating policies consistent with one values and advocating for the advancement of a particular faith (or version of faith) either through government or with taxpayer funds.
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
harold - concerning your 2:24 - I always tell the truth. I always try to verify facts before putting them out there. Opinions which are not backed by facts are not valid. They are just evidence either of stupidity or insanity.
By JP
March 30, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this
Get a Post-it Note for the refrigerator. Buy booze on Saturday. I love how “pro-freedom” folk are perfectly willing to infringe upon commerce for no reason other than religion. You buy on Saturday, I’ll buy on Sunday. Nobody gets hurt.
*take the 5th…Expect one witch hunt after another for two more years. * Typical excuses used by apologists for an administration that does not want to answer to the people it represents. That’s why Republicans lost Congress last fall, you dolt. Do you need another “good whuppin’” before you figure it out?
You can’t be weak in a mean world. And Britain is.
For this, I refer you here: “Some believe this is an act of aggression by Iran and should be met with a commensurate military response. I do not. I believe it shows that the Bush Administration’s current policy with Iran is not working. For sake of stability in the Middle East, it’s time for direct diplomacy with Iran — now more than ever.”
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
Thinkin’ Out Loud - where in the world do you get the idea that the left, religious or not, respects anyone’s first amendment rights? There is a concerted effort on the left to outlaw any Christian symbols in public places, even during traditional holidays. Somehow it has become “offensive” to say Merry Christmas or Happy Easter because you might say it to some twit who is offended because he is part of the 15% of the population which is not Christian. Yes minorities have rights, but dammit, so does the majority!
And you made a telling remark - freedom from religion. That is straight out of Marx. You obviously believe that regligion is the opiate of the people and it needs to be stamped out unless it provides some service such as keeping the masses in check, as Napoleon believed.
The difference between most politically Conservative Christians and 0itknjt jhfjhfj+-
By Truthsayer
March 30, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this
Sorry - my kid just hit the keyboard. The difference between most politically conservative and liberal christians is that liberals is that conservatives believe in private help and “teaching a man to fish you feed him for life.” Liberals believe in the morally and socially debilitating welfare state. Even Franklin Roosevelt thought that a bad idea.
By Redneck Convert
March 30, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
I see TFTT is ranting again. I don’t know why he picks on me. I ain’t been near a possum for years. I’m just your average Georgia guy. I hate the things good conservatives hate and I don’t want nobody using my tax money for theirselfs.
All you libruls need to buy your booze on YOUR holy day. There is more of us good Christians here than you are and we get to make the rules. That goes for the booze hound Harold too. If God wanted you to buy booze on Sunday he woulda had you borned with a credit card in your hand or maybe with a six pack. Though that might be a little hard on your mama at the time.
Well, got to finish my beer run. The Baptists sure are thirsty on the weekends. One of the good things about no booze sales on Sunday is I get the weekend off. So I can watch NASCAR and go to the 4-wheel contests. But crazy Harold wants me to stock bars and stores 7 days a week.
Well, gotta go. Markus will be getting off his truck driving job and yelling and cussing all weekend and TFTT will be getting his treatment. I guess Sister Dusty is sitting with a open poetry book today. She needs to get a life. Its just a shame she don’t have nothing better to do than slam the libruls and read verse. Remember to send your money to Committee to Elect Redneck Convert for President, c/o Simpsons Trailer Park, Dawsonville GA. Draft the illegals into the army. Kick butt over there. The death penalty for people that get arrested. Big tax cuts for everybody. Except maybe libruls. Elect a guy with good GA values. Not that wimp and librul Carter.
By Thinkin' Out Loud
March 30, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
Truthsayer,
I consider myself to be relatively well informed, but I seem to have missed the news about the left seeking to outlaw any Christian symbols in public places (I assume you’re referring to privately-owned public places, since I conceded that fact when concerning government/taxpayer-funded spaces due to the Establishment/Free Exercise Clauses).
With regard to freedom from religion, I don’t care where it comes from. We Americans have the freedom to choose our faith or choose not to have a faith at all. Apparently, you don’t believe in such freedoms. Your view is straight out of Ralph Reed.
On the other hand, I’m a Christian who respects the rights of agnostics and atheists (and Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.) and does not seek to impose my faith on others via government or taxpayer funds. My values? Yes. But not my faith.
By Tired Of Hypocrisy
March 30, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
What hypocrisy! When it came to gay marriage a few years ago, the mantra of Wooten and his kind was “Let the people decide.” Now when it comes to this issue, they think it’s OK for the government to decide on our behalf. They could at least be consistent. If it’s important for the people to decide, then give them that opportunity for EVERY issue, not just the ones they want to.
By Buy Danish
March 30, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
Thinkin’ Out Loud,
You consider yourself “well-informed”?
Think again.
Truthsayer,
Good job today…
By Jen
March 30, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
Truthsayer at 3:26,
Be careful with your proclamations that “conservatives believe this and conservatives believe that”. Such statements are why more and more people are avoiding the Republican Party and aligning themselves with Democrats.
Conservatives believe in smaller government — except when they don’t (e.g. 8.8 trillion national debt).
Conservatives believe in the will of the people and don’t want “activist” judges — except when they don’t (e.g. the “conservative” court recently overturned D.C.’s gun control laws).
Conservatives believe in a Republic system of government — except when they don’t — then let the people decide (e.g. gay marriage).
Conservatives believe in letting the people decide — except when they don’t (e.g. liquor laws).
Conservatives believe in the U.S. Constitution — except when they don’t (e.g. ignoring the Establishment/Free Exercise Clauses, ignoring the first clause of the Second Amendment, ignoring the Ninth Amendment).
Conservatives believe in a strong defense – except when they don’t (the current state of our military has made us impotent).
It seems that whenever so-called conservatives make a broad generalization about what they believe, they end up demonstrating to others that the proclamation they made yesterday, doesn’t apply today. You can continue to refer to yourself as a conservative if you wish, but you risk your credibility in the process.
By Bert L.
March 30, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
You consider yourself “well-informed”?
FYI, listening to Limbaugh, watching Fox News and reading FrontPageMag leads to being misinformed, not well-informed.
Think again.
Thinkin’ Out Loud,
Good job today…
By Kris
March 30, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
James,
What I mean is this - some conservatives want to force people to drink less on Sundays, so they enforce Blue laws. Some liberals think that everybody should provide for the poor, so they push laws that raise taxes. It’s the same concept drawn two different ways. And they both decrease freedom - one socially and one economically. I believe those who don’t want to drink on Sundays shouldn’t do it. And those who want to give to the poor should do it. But don’t force everyone else to abide by your values.
By Me, Me, Me
March 30, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
It’s not about “me, me, me” but only about “you, you, you.” It’s about YOUR religious beliefs affecting the lives of an overwhelming majority. It’s about YOUR desire to control the otherwise legal behavior of others that causes us to be only one of 3 states with alcohol laws closer to an Islamic nation than to developed western democracies. It’s people like YOU who are intolerant of others because they may not fit into your White Protestant views. It’s people like YOU who make people like ME consider moving somewhere more open-minded, and taking my high income and high education with me.
By Aquagirl
March 30, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
Thinkin’ out loud has a good point…conservative christians who are typified by Ralph Reed aren’t happy with freedom of religion. And they will use government instruments to promote and stomp down anyone who isn’t a “christian” that believes exactly like they do.
Do you see a liberal movement to legally ban saying “Merry Christmas”. Nope. But you see conservative christians trying to have school sanctioned prayer, (as in led by a teacher) school promotion of their particular beliefs, (see:nuts in Cobb County) and promotion of what they see as their religion by placement of the Ten Commandments in public places.
No, they can’t rent a billboard on GA 400 and plug the Ten Commandments, they have to put them in a government building. Thus implying that this is “their” government, and others can sod off.
By Kevin
March 30, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
Kris,
You seem to be stating the obvious. When some vote to impose taxes, for example, to pay for a military, police and fire departments, then they are, as you say, “decreasing freedom”. When some vote to support anti-drug laws, put up red lights or impose odd-even watering bans, then they’re “decreasing freedom”. For society to function, we have to give up some freedoms – especially if they impose on or endanger others. The alternative is anarchy.
Contrary to the rhetoric from the right, the debate isn’t about whether one side believes in freedom more than the other. As you observed both the politically left and right seek to decrease freedoms — social and economic. The left/right debate is actually about which freedoms to preserve and which freedoms to give up and under what circumstances (the debate over certain provisions of the Patriot Act is a good example of such a debate).
By Dusty
March 30, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
So JP,
Iran grabbed up the British sailors because they didn’t like Bush’s diplomacy. Yes, we get it. It is all our President’s fault. Bush did it!!
Have you ever heard of AHMADINEJAD? Do you think that he might have had something to do with it?
Will all of you out in lalaland remember that you are Americans? Keep saying it over several times and maybe you will get it straight. We don’t support foreign governments over our own, ‘specially when their leaders would love to wipe us out. There now. You got it?
By JP
March 30, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
The POINT is that Bush’s lone cowboy act makes people feel threatened, and they act unpredictably when provoked. They’re trying to look tough, but they wouldn’t feel the need to if Bush weren’t implying he was going to do a “Regime change” there also.
There now. You got it?
By Dusty and Logic = Oil and Water
March 30, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
JP,
Debating Dusty is futile. She has her head so far up Bush’s a$$ that she can’t see the forest for the turds.
By JohnD(the actual)
March 30, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this
Democrats instituted the ban on Sunday alcohol sales in Georgia - not the Republicans. The opposition for a change comes, for the most part, from rural Georgia. Compared to other issues in Georgia Sunday alcohol sales is of minor importance but sure is handy for all the Liberals to use as the “cause of the day”.
Jen, the problem I see with your position on Conservatives is that you accept all who claim to be Conservative are as they say. I would argue that George Bush and the Republicans in Congress claimed to be Conservatives in order to win office but once there acted as Liberals. Their actions provide the evidence to refute their words.
One assumption on this blog is that to support the Office of the President is to support all that George W. Bush has done. The President has done much that is contrary to the Conservative philosophy but that does not mean Al Gore or John Kerry would have been a better choice.
The Democrats would not have won the majority in the House if not for the moderate and conservative newcomers such as Heath Schuler. Dependent upon the source of the information, there are 14-18 new Democrat House Members who are moderate or conservative. The claim of a Liberal mandate starts to pale with this information.
The Democrats talk about setting a date for withdrawal from Iraq but the reality is that the Congress has the right to stop funding the effort and that would end our involvement, but there seems to be a lack of courage or commitment to take the step. A lack of honesty perhaps?
Similarly the President continues to ask for supplemental spending to fund the war rather than including the money in his budget. The administration would rather “talk” about reducing the deficit. Another example of a lack of honesty. Then the Democrats counter by adding Pork to the supplemental spending bill with the full knowledge there will be a Presidential veto - more dishonesty.
My point is that we have hypocrisy on both sides and until the people who vote send these clowns a message we will continue to have talk with no action.
By JohnD(the actual)
March 30, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this
Iran is acting just as they did in 179-1980. Recall that the Great Liberal, Jimmy Carter, used an appeasement approach to the hostage crisis during his Presidency and the result was 444 days in captivity for Americans. Lone cowboy act indeed!
Oh yes, that cowboy, Ronald Reagan, solved the problem on Inauguration Day in 1980 by making plain his intentions during the election.
This has nothing to do with Bush or Britain but has all to do with the Ayatollah and the Iranian government throwing out their chests for the people of Iran. The British Marines just happened to be in an area where they were vulnerable.
I would suggest all of you research the treatment of the hostages in 1979-80 by Iran before you decide this is a situation that calls for diplomacy
By WootenDull
March 31, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
My Gawd, I can’t believe the Urinal let this get by the censor:
Tal Afar, Iraq —- The politics unfolding in the U.S. Congress frighten the mayor of this northwestern Iraq city almost as much as the multiple bombings and revenge killings that shattered the calm here this week. “I know what’s-her-name, Hillary Clinton, knows very well that Bush is on the right track, but she has to oppose him because of the elections,” Jibouri says, taking a jab at Democrats who support the troop drawdown. “I am telling you that it is the Iraqis who will pay the ultimate price for American politics.”
I guess they’re done kissing MoveOn’s as-s at the AJC and now it’s time to act like adults.
Uh, wait a minute, maybe not:
{{{Captured marine says he’s sorry for trespass- Urinal Headline}}}
I wonder if it had anything to do with the gun pointed at his head.
The Urinal, propagandizing for extreme religious fanatics, wonderful.
The next time you see a candy as-s pinko liberal throwing a fit over some contrived American “torture” just think back to this time when they were using real Iranian torture to spew anti American propaganda.
Where’s the outrage at the mistreatment, y’all?
Do you only stick up for the enemies of the United States?
Always side up with the enemy, that’s a lib for ya.
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By Luckovich Losers
March 31, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
The Iraqi people are already paying the price for American intervention, you shiite eating f-aggot.
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By Pillowbiters for Bush
March 31, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this
Well Dull, maybe those Brit Marines are cowards. But at least they had the nerve to serve.
Hey - maybe you can get the Brit Marines to blog here, Jim - like the rest of us nancy chickenhawks.
By Ga-y Boy
March 31, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this
Hey!
What’s wrong with being a shiite eating f-aggot, you coward?
By Pillowbiters for Bush
March 31, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this
As far as I’m concerned, not a d-amn thing. I’m sure I speak for the rest of the Pillowbiters - RW, Bi, Andi, @@, realisp, Markus, etc. as well.
By WootenDull
March 31, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this
Why do liberals hate gay people so much?
Is it just a natural byproduct of their slam ignorance?
If you’re too stupid to figure out that if Al Qaeda is killing less Iraqis than Saddam did and that if we defeat the terrorists than even less Iraqis will be dying, then defeating the terrorists should be like a priority.
If you really cared about how many Iraqis are dying and not just using it to promote your candy as-sed spineless wormy little political party, that is.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
Diseased liberals care about the gays so much that they use gay epithets to supposedly insult conservatives. Of course, I’m of the backbone where I don’t give a pig’s @ss what these sick diseased animals that represent the left think. I despise them all equally.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
Correction to my ^^above^^ comment. I despise liberal demoncats all equally. What one does in one’s own house is none of my business.
By JSS
March 31, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
Hmmm, Jim Wooten (as in NEVER RIGHT), Shoman Kasbekar lives in Lizella, Georgia. I know you failed geography, and your so-called conservative state government feels that one size fits all locations on the map are the wave of the future; but you sure missed this one Master Wooten!
By Markus
March 31, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Heh. Hehehe. HAHAHAHA! Man, don’t tell me John Travolta is jumping on the hysteria bandwagon of man made global warming. With FIVE freaking jets? What the hell is a man going to do with THREE Gulfstreams alone? I don’t think the sickness of hypocritical liberalism gets any more funny than this.
For more laughs read all the comments at the bottom trashing this sickness. WTF is it about Holly-woodhead psuedo-experts on everything? Most of those queefbags couldn’t even hold a job in the real world, and that’s why they are ACTORS. Now suddenly they are experts at everything.
And that definitely goes for that fat liberal tub of sheet Rosie O’Pig. The dumb b!tch yesterday said that tower 7 was brought down for the “first time in history steel melted.” Well someone tell that idiot diseased walrus that steel is MELTED when its MOLDED, so steel DOES melt at a high enough temperature?
Liberalism - indoctrinating one unused mind at a time.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
Wow looks like I missed some real fun yesterday. Conservatives disagreeing with each other and the usual liberal RAT suspects spewing their sewage. Anyway, my comments…
My refrigerators are always well stocked as well as the wine chiller and bar. I don’t see what all the fuss is about on Sunday alcohol sales other than the fact that the Bible Belt won’t get past the 1930s. Of course, if I were really with it, I’d do like a crazy neighbor used to do: sell my booze on Sunday for a nice profit to some alcoholic who forgot to buy on Saturday night.
Interesting comment about the death penalty. I used to be a staunch advocate of the death penalty. But lately I have come to the realization that keeping someone alive for the rest of their life in a 6x10 cell is in reality worse punishment than snuffing someone out. That said, I’d snuff someone out in a New York second if they threatened my life or the life of a loved one like entering my home or trying to carjack me. No questions asked.
I think a lot of those heavy handed fines are as much about discouragement as they are about government pocket lining. Of course, I’m sure if you talk to relatives of a dead loved one who was killed working at a highway construction site, the last thing they’d mention was government pocket lining instead of speeding discouragement and heavy fines.
Why we just can’t have any positive news coming out of Iraq. Just look at Friday’s al Jazeera Constipation headline picture. We need to pull out now before that light at the end of the tunnel gets any bigger. We are damned determined to ensure Bush is a failure, even using our troops as political pawns and pork barrel carriers while pretending we really care about them.
The Harland story of success is the antithesis of what the disease of liberalism stands for in this nation: nobody should be more successful than someone else because it’s not fair. Any time you work 60-80 hours a week to start your own company and sell it decades later for millions, you are just “fortunate” or are “winning life’s lottery.” Or even better, you are stepping on the backs of the poor and “working class” to get there. Sick liberals.
Diseased liberals are cheering for the UK to lose against Iran. The news of the soldier captures is music to their ears. They love it when an enemy of the West and capitalism and military might gets knocked down a few pegs. Oh, and don’t think for one second these same diseased creatures representing the sick left don’t think the same about the US.
The RAT pack clowns in Washington will investigate everything down to a lintball in a Republican’s pocket. They and their wicked serpent lawyers will then question and question and probe and probe until they find SOME snippet of detail about that lintball that either is suspiciously inaccurate or that the Republican being questioned can’t remember specifically, and then BAMMO! Trial time in front of a RAT pack of jurors. Eff’ ‘em all with the Fifth. F you, RATs.
Note how most of the jackass liberals said only negative things about a home-schooler winning a spelling bee (again). The sick liberals will never acknowledge anything positive from a policy they disagree with (in this case, it’s keeping a kid away from the neonazi liberal demoncat indoctrination camps known as public schools). The RATs here had to make comments like “well what about math and other parts of education?” Well, what ABOUT them, liberals?
“The average homeschool 8th grade student performs four grade levels above the national average (Rudner study). One in four homeschool students (24.5%) are enrolled one or more grades above age level. Students who have been home schooled their entire lives have the highest scholastic achievement.”
Jason, who is 17 years old, was home-schooled by his mother. After he scored 1,570 out of a possible 1,600 on his SAT college-admissions test — with a perfect 800 in math — Oglethorpe invited him to compete with other top applicants for five scholarships valued at about $100,000 apiece. Of the 94 prospects in the Jan. 22 contest, eight were home-schoolers, each with SATs above 1,300.
Don’t ever let the FACTS get in the way of a good overestrogened limpwristed liberal’s feelings about an issue.
So MARTA is extending the transportation tax to 2047? I wonder if they will make any of those funds retroactive and null after the north rail line expansion is completed in 25 years? MARTA makes government solutions look efficient and timely.
Builder: “Finding quality craft tradespeople has been a challenge for many, many years, and anything that could potentially affect that number causes great concern.”
I’ve been constantly saying that on this blog since day one. Americans have become fat and lazy and want an immediate success story. Nobody wants to learn a trade and work hard for 10 years learning the business before starting up one’s own company (and selling it 20 years later for $15 million like someone I know). We all either want to win the lottery, score a record deal, become a sports star, or some other easy way of “making it.” Of course, another reason why so many Americans don’t want to learn a trade is because they feel those jobs are beneath them. Even liberals who supposedly care for the “working class” have disdain for them (especially if they are a Republican). Anyway, to think we wonder why it’s an act of congress trying to get a plumber or electrician to return a phone call.
No comment on Circuit City. They can run their business however in the hell they want to. If they want to fire everyone and use robots, they can do that. It’s a free country for businesses (so far without Hitllary in charge). Those jobs belong to Circuit City, not the cities they reside in.
By @@
March 31, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
Pillowbiter:
Are you for real?
I haven’t posted here at Wooten’s in weeks, but yet some “paranoid” multi ID poster —->(YOU)<—- claims that I’m posting daily.
I’ll tell ‘ya what Pillowbiter…bite this instead.
Don’t go for it until we tell you to though.
Don’t move…….
Waiittttt!!!
Waiittttt!!!
You’re a good dog.
Well trained, but you slobber too much.
Waiittttt!!!
By N-GA
March 31, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
Jim,
Your comment about people wanting Sunday liquor sales focusing on “me, me, me!” was very nearly right…the religious “right”.
Those wanting to restrict Sunday liquor sales already have the “right” to not purchase liquor on Sunday. What they want is to impose their “me, me, me” views on others.
Instead, the Legislature should enact a law that permits Sunday liquor sales throughout the state. Then each storeowner should make his/her own decision about whether or not they want to sell liquor on Sundays. Now each consumer would be able to express their individual views (freedoms) by either patronizing or boycotting stores that sell (or don’t sell) alcoholic beverages on Sunday.
Your position allows the Legislature to bestow “rights” based upon religious beliefs instead of treating all citizens equally. And I thought that you supported the Constitution…
By Markus
March 31, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
Blow it out your @ss JSS. Wooten made an error and corrected for it. Like you bastards on the left admit when YOU screw up. Jackassed hypocrites.
By Candy As-s Liberals For Poof Withdrawal
March 31, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
Bring Our Sailors Home!
By Markus
March 31, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
While most people have bets on the Final Four teams, I have a bet on how many people are going to be shot and stabbed this weekend on top of the usual violence. We love Atlanta.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this
The worthless UN expresses ‘Grave Concern’ for the UK soldier kidnappings (that’s EXACTLY what they were). I’m sure they were shaking so bad they couldn’t even mount their camels. Give these fanatical animals a timetable to release them. Prove with GPS coordinates, although the weirdbeards and Rosie O’Pig & liberal demoncat friends would say that was a lie.
If they don’t comply, then surgical bomb them. Those pigs want a war with the West, then give it to them.
US out of the UN, UN out of the US.
By Dusty
March 31, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this
N-GA,
I believe that Jim Wooten’s comment on Sunday liquor sales goes more to the “tempest in a teapot” kind of thing. Why get upset over Sunday liquor store sales when all you have to do is buy on Saturday or go to a restaurunt? In other words, why increase your blood pressure over nothing?
I don’t believe that liquor is mentioned in the Constitution but you can link the buying of it with personal freedom if you try.
I have no interest in the sale of alcohol. You can buy and get dead drunk on Sunday as far as I am concerned, as long as you don’t get on the road or shoot at the neighbors.
As far as I can discern, drinking alcohol is no sin. Not until it causes personal degredation and family and public distress. Then it is made evil by the decisions of the drinker.
Oh well, I will ask at church tomorrow if anybody is a drunkard and would like to explain their plight? I’ll let you know the answers.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
“Our bill calls for the redeployment of U.S. troops out of Iraq so that we can focus more fully on the real war on terror, which is in Afghanistan.” — Speaker Nancy Pelosi, March 8
The hell’s Nanny Pelosivich brainstorming over? There are really no terrorists in Iraq? Just when you think a dumb@ssed liberal can’t say anything more pathetic, along comes that gem.
Someone tell the limpwrists on the left that “redeployment” is a coward’s word.
By Candy As-s Liberals For Poof Withdrawal
March 31, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this
The streets outside the Dome probably look like the Green Zone.
I’ve already cut and run.
There wasn’t even a vote about it.
Nor did Pelosi have to bribe me with any pork to do a swap.
Bring our Sailors home!
By Markus
March 31, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
I knew it. I just KNEW it. It wouldn’t be long before one of the limpwrist liberal media outlets would be blaming man made global warming on the pollen. Sniff. Sniff. PHGBTBTHGTBTTBTBT.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/07/health/webmd/main1690993.shtml
So let me get this straight. We can’t forecast hurricane seasons accurately, we don’t know what causes el Nino and la Nina to come and go, we don’t know why the jetstream changes course, we don’t know why the antarctic ice is growing while the arctic ice is melting, we don’t know when or where a tornado will touch down, but yet we know for certain that a soccermom’s Tahoe is causing trees to spawn pollen early and fish to fall out of the sky in Tazmania. Got it.
By Stone Sober Sunday Preacher
March 31, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
Please, Sweet Jesus, cure the hatred in Markus’ heart.
By Dusty
March 31, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
@@,
I love your dog. He was too cute to be a pillowbiter whatever that is. Glad you are posting here.
I’ve got to get busy. We always seem to be celebrating a birthday and tonight is no different. We gather for the usual fun, arguments and birthday singing.
Our family always has its events. One son hit a deer last week and he is not happy with the body shop estimates. No wonder!! Have a good weekend!
PS..Confession..I misspelled restaurant in my last post. Got to get that spellchecker going!
By Markus
March 31, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
Oh bite me ID poofer. It’s no more than what you sick liberal demoncats post over on Muffingtonqueefpost.com or Daily Kook, and many times here… like calling Wooten a “dick” for example or saying that Wooten and his followers need to be “hung.” Stick it, whineyassed liberal RAT.
By DJ
March 31, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
One again, Jim proves that he’s not a true conservative. He’s just another right-wing sycophant who never met a wedge issue he didn’t like. What happened to “personal responsibility” Jim? What happened to “less government” Jim? What happened to limiting the government from interfering with our private affairs Jim? You have no spine, and no conservative credentials. Your ego trumps logic and legitimate policy concern every time. Pathetic - like all the other “conservatives” who think forcing their narrow-minded “values” view of the world down everyone elses throat is the proper use of government.
By JP
March 31, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Take a look at Rep. Tom Price’s latest misleading flyer!
By Markus
March 31, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
What’s this? Senator Dianne Feinsteinfinkelpuss had to resign from a military appropriations subcommittee due to her husbands ties to military contracts? NOOoooooo.
Not a PEEP from the horseass mainstream liberal media. Nah, liberal media bias is a right-wing neocon myth. I’m SO sure this would have been ignored if it happened to a Republican. Filthy RAT vermin liars.
Get a load of someone who wrote to the San FreakSicko PubeHairFollicle and asked if they were going to write about it. RATS.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
So what are you saying JP, that’s a bunch of LIES?
Among those who will experience a tax increase if the Democrats’ plan becomes law:
— 26 million small business owners, by an average of $3,960.
— 48 million married couples, by an average of $2,899.
— 42 million families with children, by an average of $2,181.
— 12 million single women with children, by an average of $1,082.
— 17 million senior citizens, by an average of $2,270.
Of course, these sick liberal socialist neoMarxist mongrels on the left will blame Bush for their recession. RATs… caring so much for Americans. Jackasses.
By Dusty
March 31, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
Oh cool it, DJ,
If reading a blog is forcing something down your throat, then don’t read it. Jim Wooten’s comments are his opinions and he has as much right to express them as you.
But carry on pointlessly and uselessly as you like. Nobody is forcing you to do anything unless you are holding up a bank. Maybe you would like to tell us specificly what bothers you so much instead of unnamed blatant harassment of Jim Wooten.
By getalife
March 31, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
macaca,
That Feinstein story is wingnut insurgent propaganda and pure bs.
mm’s blog is not credible.
Search the net for somebody else reporting that story and you will find none.
Most of the wingnut insurgents that are destroying our country come from Pat Robertson University
The wingnut insurgents are winning but the Dem oversight has declared war on this wingnut insurgency.
We must win this war and get our country back.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
DJ is just another filthy liberal who hates the VERY IDEA that a Conservative is able to express an opinion in public, let alone in an infestation of liberalism known as the AJC (just look at how those mangy mongrels infest Conservative blogs in general).
Did you honestly think these vermin on the left would be happy after winning Congress? Oh HELL no. So long as Conservatives still exist, the Party Of The Permanently Miserable will still be the miserable Aholes they are. They won’t admit it, but that’s the way they think.
By N-GA
March 31, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
Anyone who thinks that the Sunday Alcohol beverage issue is a “tempest in a teapot” either wants to continue banning such sales, or doesn’t care about the issue (as you say you don’t).
The real issue isn’t about Sunday alcohol sales as much as it is about the state government and evangelicals dictating behavior to others. As far as the US Constitution, it is my opinion that when a state enacts legislation that favors a certain religious view, then my Constitutional rights are being violated. If our state Legislature passed a law that required Christian church services between 2nd & 3rd period of every school day, I suspect there would be a tremendous outcry from many, if not most, Georgians. It would certainly get the attention of the ACLU!
By Markus
March 31, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
IS that story true of false, craponlife? I don’t read any of your sh!thole links anyway crapon, so don’t waste your worthless existence on me.
By B.
March 31, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
Wanting less government regulation is an example of being “me-centered?” Does that hold true universally - can we say that wanting the right to bear arms is an example of being me-centered (“it’s my gun…”)? What about wanting freedom from affirmative action? I mean, the objection there is that “I,” a wealthy white male, don’t get to attend the college I want because someone else gets to - me, me, me.
Of course, if you think about it for more than three seconds, America was founded on the idea that the people are free - free to own guns, free to make contracts, and, yes, free to buy and sell goods on whatever day they want. Governmental intrusion into that was supposed to be limited. Is that “freedom” thing “me-centered?” Yes - and the other possibility is “state-centered.” (You know, all for the good of the country - don’t be selfish, comrade).
Which leads me to my (almost serious) point - apparently Jim’s gone commie on us!
By getalife
March 31, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
Of course, you will not read the truth macaca.
You and Dusty are wingnut insurgents who swallow the lies because you can’t admit your hate party’s agenda to destroy America.
The facts are clear they are. Pay attention to the Dem oversight and you will see this destruction. It will be an ongiong war until w is gone and the Dems win back the White House in 08.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
Slimes:
“The world has been discussing the genocide in Darfur for more than three years. But some 200,000 deaths later, it has yet to take effective action to force the Sudanese government to stop sponsoring the mass murder, rape, torture and forcible evictions being carried out on its orders in the region.”
Well I’ll be a sonofabeech. You mean to tell me someone up at the Slimes is wetting their pretty pinko panties over something that’s going on overseas now like murder and torture? You don’t SAY.
“Yesterday, the United Nations Human Rights Council at last expressed its deep concern over human rights violations in Darfur.”
A big Keanu Reeves Wooooaaah! We are now TWO FOR TWO at the UN. There are not one but TWO “GRAVE CONCERNS” now. WOOOOAAAAAH!
I’m sure those rusty 1978 Toyota driving warlords over there are really shaking in their sandals now.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/31/opinion/31sat1.html
By Markus
March 31, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
Did anyone catch the South Park episode Wednesday night where Hillaryous Clintoon made a guest appearance? Freaking brilliant. Fatassed hips and thighs and all, and even mocking a southern accent like the witch did a few weeks ago in the real world. Trey is a genius.
By FlyGirl Pinkos For Al Qaeda, On Our Knees
March 31, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
You win, you win!
We submit, we submit!
Take us like the candy as-ses we are.
By Candy As-s Liberals For Poof Withdrawal
March 31, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this
Doesn’t Waxman’s face look like he sucked one so hard it collapsed his cheekbones and dislocated his jaw?
Anyone who tries that hard has got to be really fly.
Make no mistake about it, either way, that dude is a freak.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
This is news to me. Apparently John Effin’ sKerry approached John McCain to be his running mate in the 2004 election. You have GOT to be kidding me. Will the arrogance and gall of that jackal northeastern diseased liberal demoncat never be outclassed?
This, from a man who made hero movies of himself while McCain was serving time in the Hanoi Hilton. This, from a man who came back with a few scratches and three Purple Hearts who then threw them over the White House fence in protest (or were those his ribbons? or were those someone else’s medals?). This, from a man who protested on the same grounds where that stench of perfect liberal anti-Americanism Hanoi Jane protested. And not long after she returned from mounting an AA gun that may have shot down some of the US pilots who were being REALLY tortured on the same soil she was on.
If I were McCain, I would have slapped the snot out of that @sshole for even coming up to me and opening his filthy RAT sewer about ANYTHING.
By Dusty
March 31, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
It is a “tempest in a teapot”. Are you trying to say that evangelicals or anybody else who doesn’t agree with you shouldn’t vote for what they think is right? Or not vote at all so they won’t interfere with someone’s preferences? Now that is an interference with the Constitution if ever I heard one.
Get enough people to vote against the nonsale of liquor on Sunday and you’ve got it made. Majority rules.
In the meantime, quit your sqawking and go buy your bottle now. It is Saturday afternoon and all is well (and for sale).
By N-GA
March 31, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
Hey Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter),
You use different names here on Wooten’s blog, but your vicious garbage is the exact same stuff you post over at Luckovich’s. I guess you want to make Wooten real proud!! You pathetic little hater!!
LMAO!!
By getalife
March 31, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Another lie for macaca to swallow:
w:”Congress continues to pursue these bills, and as they do, the clock is ticking for our troops in the field. Funding for our forces in Iraq will begin to run out in mid-April”
BS, the funds run out at the end of July and he will veto the funding to try to blame his disaster on the Dems.
Geez.
Lying liar coward.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
Hold the fort down for a few hours fellow Conservatives, I’m going to go plunk down a few of MY bills on a new HD camcorder and play around with it. If there are homeless jobless bums downtown who don’t have money to buy booze, it’s not my effin’ problem.
By Pillowbiters for Bush
March 31, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
I speak for all the other g-ay f-ags in the Pillowbiters for Bush organization when I tell you that Macaca Markus will swallow anything.
How do you think you get to be in this fine chickenhawk organization, right Andi?
By FlyGirl Pinkos For Al Qaeda, On Our Knees
March 31, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
mountain girl: Gosh, How could I keep my identity hidden from a vast reservoir of “intelligence” like you?
Everybody on this blog uses the word “pinko” and “candy as-s” how did you ever spot me?
Can’t take the truth so whine, you surrender monkey.
That’ll scare Al Qaeda off.
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By getalife
March 31, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
Go Circuit City macaca,
They hate the American people too.
Geez.
By Rudy Cosa Nostra
March 31, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
Hey Markus - goombah! Do you support me in my Presidential run? Are you a friend of ours?
By t
March 31, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
So it seems Circuit City is aiming for as high an incompetence level as Best Buy, whose business model seems to be “smile, say hello, act like the customer is family, but don’t go to the trouble to learn anything else about the products.” They find a way every time I walk in not to take my money.
By Chris Hansen
March 31, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I’ve been in broadcast journalism for 25 years and I am speechless. What are you doing here now?
By Markus
March 31, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
Hopefully, I can give a homeless person the b***** of their life. Even if I won’t financially support them, I can still sexually please them.
By Markus
March 31, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this
Er, that’s blwjb.
By Rudy Cosa Nostra
March 31, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
Markus, I like your style. But you need to be more down low on the g-ay stuff.
But - have you seen all the pictures of me in drag? Bet a wise “guy” like you is drooling…
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this
Getaclue,
I did click on your link about the grand total of 150 HORRORS who graduated from Regents U and work with the Bush Administration. BFD.
Here is what one of the links provided by that non-story states about new guidelines put into effect by one of its graduates, Kay Coles James:
The departments appear on track, via regulations coming out later this month, to discard the 15-grade General Schedule and replace it with a pay system that more closely ties raises to job performance. The new pay systems, which will be phased in, will affect about half of the government’s workforce.
The departments also plan other workforce changes, such as streamlining the process for handling employee appeals of disciplinary action and revamping their labor-management relations. Some of the labor changes could scale back the clout of federal unions at the departments, and the changes will not be greeted warmly when imposed.
OMG! That is like SO SHOCKING! A bureaucrat actually reformed something!
By getalife
March 31, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
Benedict Danish,
There will be reconstruction of our government after the 08 Dem landslide.
First, they will have to apologize to the world for w’s wingnut insurgency disaster to try to get some credibility back after all the lies.
Then eliminate waste and prosecute those responsible for the wingnut insurgency.
There will be a reckoning and it will take decades to repair the damage.
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
If anyone is curious about what is behind DiFi’s quiet resignation from MILCOM, here is the original story that preceded her subsequent departure from that committee.
Contrary to Getalife’s habitual lies about the source of this story, which he has repeatedly dismissed as “wingnut insurgent propaganda and BS”, it was in fact written by a LEFT WING reporter who was funded by The Nation, a LEFT WING magazine.
Getalife has a lot of nerve calling George Bush a liar. But then again, moonbats excel at projecting their own very serious character flaws onto others.
Read all about it here
By getalife
March 31, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
BD,
Find another source or STFU.
Sick of the lies.
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this
Getapair,
I know, I know. You liked it when the Dems handed out raises to worthless union employees based on everything but merit, and when it took hundreds of steps to perform one task. With the old system undeserving people could have taxpayer funded jobs and automatic raises.
It’s so unfair when streamlining a bureaucracy to make it more efficient screws up your Marxist Utopian agenda.
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
Disgraceful Liar Getalife,
That story is not by a right wing reporter. ADMIT IT and stop pretending that it is a vast right wing conspiracy.
This is from the San Francisco Chronicle April 2003, but they have yet to follow up on the newest revelations:
URS Corp., a San Francisco planning and engineering firm partially owned by California Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s husband, landed an Army contract Monday worth up to $600 million.//The award to help with troop mobilization, weapons systems training and anti-terrorism efforts is the latest in a string of plum defense jobs snared by URS. In February, the firm won an army engineering and logistics contract that could bring in $3.1 billion during the next eight years.//Government contracting has come under increasing scrutiny by Congress and citizen groups, with critics decrying the political connections of firms winning lucrative jobs. Richard Blum, Feinstein’s husband, serves on the company’s board of directors and controls about 24 percent of the firm’s stock//A Feinstein spokesman Monday declined to comment on the contract.
It is not being reported because it does not serve the MSM’s interest to go after a Senior Democrat Senator.
By getalife
March 31, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
“He said his decision to step forward had not come easily. But, he said, his disappointment in Mr. Bush’s presidency is so great that he feels a sense of duty to go public given his role in helping Mr. Bush gain and keep power.
Mr. Dowd, a crucial part of a team that cast Senator John Kerry as a flip-flopper who could not be trusted with national security during wartime, said he had even written but never submitted an op-ed article titled “Kerry Was Right,” arguing that Mr. Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat and 2004 presidential candidate, was correct in calling last year for a withdrawal from Iraq.”
Mr. Murtha, Feingold, Kerry, etc.. were all right and w is dead wrong.
Your hate party does not stand a chance in 08.
Choke on that wingnut insurgents.
By Bent Over Pinkos For Al Qaeda
March 31, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
WASHINGTON (AP) - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will visit Syria, a country President Bush has shunned as a sponsor of terrorism, despite being asked by the administration not to go.
If they take this nasty bitc-h hostage will they have to force her to dis America or will she do it of her own free will?
How will we know if she’s a hostage or not? You know she’s gonna be running that filthy sewer of a mouth.
And if she blinks like an idiot, as usual, can Bush say that he thought it was a distress signal and bomb Damascus to try and “free” her?
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By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
This is from March 2006 by Left Wing reporter Joshua Frank of Anti-War.com.
The Democrat’s Daddy Warbucks
There are links here to another SF Chronicle story that profiles DiFi’s husband, Blum.
If you Democrat partisans keep ignoring this story don’t be surprised if a third party Leftist candidate runs in 2008.
Billionaire Soros funds CREW and CREW does not like that this and other stories of alleged Democrat corruption are being ignored, especially when it involves the evil Iraq War.
Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
Andy,
I could envision Syria giving some sort of false promises to Madame Pelosi which the MSM will portray as a major diplomatic coup.
This is a very dangerous game these traitors are playing.
Getalife,
You want people you lie about to choke now? Nice.
By N-GA
March 31, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Why bother streamlining the bureaucracy when you can just outsource it to Halliburton. Or better yet, outsource our veteran’s medical care…that way you can eliminate quality care while producing an obscene profit for some GOP donor.
By getalife
March 31, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
Pelosi is soing Rice’s job because Rice is another pathetic failure.
What has Rice done?
Nothing but threats.
Pitiful.
By Candy As-s Liberals For Poof Withdrawal
March 31, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
{{{By N-GA March 31, 2007 3:52 PM Why bother streamlining the bureaucracy when you can just outsource it to Halliburton.}}}
What’s that alarm buzzing for?
Moonbat Early Warning System- Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good… Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad…
Oh, it’s mountain girl swimming around in the fever swamp.
False alarm, as usual.
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By getalife
March 31, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
Good point N-GA.
The hate party hates the troops.
w promised to fix all the problems in VA care so he will do nothing as usual unless there are profits to be made for his buddies.
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
Is Getalife suggesting we take military action against Syria?
Of course not. He wants Pelosi to have a Mocha Latte with Assad and make concessions to appease the outraged Muslim World whose every crime is America’s fault.
Congresses’ Date Certain Surrender Bill is just one step in the healing process.
Maybe Pelosi could apologize for 9/11 while she’s over there!
Then the whole world will love us once again and we will live happily ever after.
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
Getlife and N-GA,
The MILCON subcommittee that DiFi just quietly resigned from supervises military construction and oversees quality of life issues for veterans.
This includes building housing for military families and operating hospitals and clinics for wounded soldiers.
Where’s the outrage??
By getalife
March 31, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
“I’m equally happy, Gen. Garde is on target, that the president is going to visit our wounded soldiers. I’m convinced that he would honor them more if he would refrain from using soldiers as props in political theater.
We have a commander-in-chief who does very well when he is unscripted, unrehearsed and engaging with soldiers. But too often those who handle his performances try to turn the American fighting man and woman into a political prop for the scenery.
So I would be very happy to see him do the Water Reed visit more like the commander and secondarily as an inspector general instead of as a politician. The inspector general in the U.S. army is the fellow charged with ferreting out problems such as Walter Reed and delivering the nature of the problem to the commander. So it is best that the commander in chief pursue this visit to Walter Reed as commander in fact of the American fighting man and the American fighting woman.
All I can say to Gen. Eaton: Well done, sir.”
w hates the troops.
He is a disgrace.
By Dusty
March 31, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
I tell you what,
let’s just appoint Pelosi as Ambassador to Syria and LET HER STAY THERE.
Then fire Haliburton and give all the contracts to the company of Diane Feinstein’s husband then show Congress every bit of it in writing.
In the meantime, send getalife as a swap hostage for the British Marines. The Iranians can keep him as long as they can stand cigars. They will probably surrender to anyone that will take them after that.
Hey, maybe I will be a covert CIA person and get to write books and make money. whoopee!! I’m off to Washington..
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
Plaigiarist Getalife,
Where’s the link to that story?
Maybe DiFi should visit the woulded troops and apologize to them for profiting from the Iraq War while regularly denouncing it at the same time.
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Good idea, but DiFi’s husband sold those companies.
DiFi already did all her good work enriching herself so her resignation is no personal loss to her or her husband.
If you throw in a belly dancing lap dancer Getalife might volunteer to be an Iranian hostage.
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Correction! Just in case One Punk is lurking about, make that “plagiarist” not “plaigiarist”.
By N-GA
March 31, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Here’s an article that pre-dates Jimmy Carter’s book about Israeli Apartheid. However, it doesn’t use the “expletive” APARTHEID, so it says the same thing without being as “offensive”.
By getalife
March 31, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
I agree with Jon Stewert on Iran:
“Hey Iran…what are ya doing?! Do you know how hard we’re working over here to keep President Bombs-A-Lot from throwing down on you guys?”
By getalife
March 31, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Specter went to Syria too idiots.
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
N-GA and other anti-Israel propagandists,
What about Arab “apartheid” of the Palestinians? Here’s an in-depth history lesson that reviews the history of the Arab/Israeli conflict including the treatment of the Palestinians by the Arabs.
At the moment of Israel’s birth, Palestinian Arabs lived on roughly 90 percent of the original Palestine Mandate – in Transjordan and in the UN partition area, but also in the new state of Israel itself. There were 800,000 Arabs living in Israel alongside 1.2 million Jews. At the same time, Jews were legally barred from settling in the 35,000 square miles of Palestinian Transjordan, which eventually was renamed simply “Jordan.”//The Arab population in the slivers called Israel had actually more than tripled since the Zionists first began settling the region in significant numbers in the 1880s.The reason for this increase was that the Jewish settlers had brought industrial and agricultural development with them, which attracted Arab immigrants to what had previously been a sparsely settled and economically destitute area.//If the Palestinian Arabs had been willing to accept this arrangement in which they received 90 percent of the land in the Palestine Mandate, and under which they benefited from the industry, enterprise and political democracy the Jews brought to the region, there would have been no Middle East conflict. But this was not to be.
And the rest, as they say, is “history”.
I’m off to buy my Sunday liquor which I am permitted to consume but not purchase tomorrow…
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
Specter is a RINO, and Bush and conservatives objected to that visit too.
Unlike you Leftists, we are consistent in our positions and have no problem criticizing other Republicans when appropriate.
Bye…
By Bent Over Pinkos For Al Qaeda
March 31, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
gitmo: The only mistake that Rice made was not carrying those threats through.
Spectre is a democrat party suc-khole, what’s your point?.
Danish: I wonder if that stupid Pelosi woman will figure out that, like all the other women in Syria, she won’t be allowed to speak?
If she wants to talk sh-it about America, she’ll have to bring some pre written notes to give them.
I know there is absolutely no chance at all that Baby Assad will get aroused but do you think they’ll make Pelosi don a burqa?
Will she even notice that she’s the only woman allowed in the palace except for the thirteen year old girls drug in every night to play “hide the royal salami?”
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By getalife
March 31, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
I think Specter had to do Rice’s job too.
One thing is for sure, you would lose on “Are you smarter than a fifth grader” show.
Geez.
By getalife
March 31, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
Leave it to Andy to spew this sick, perverted crap:
Will she even notice that she’s the only woman allowed in the palace except for the thirteen year old girls drug in every night to play “hide the royal salami?”
Why does the hate party molest children?
Geez, sickos.
By Candy As-s Liberals For Poof Withdrawal
March 31, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this
{{{By getalife March 31, 2007 5:04 PM Why does the hate party molest children?}}}
Yaaawwwwwwnnnnnn.
Muhammad was 52 and Aisha was 9 when they married and sexually consummated their marriage. Muhammad followed an Arab custom in marrying a child who had her first menstrual cycle. This action must be questioned, regardless of it being a cultural norm, because Muhammad’s action and teachings on marriage established an Islamic precedent: a girl is judged an adult following her first menses, and is eligible for marriage and sexual relations. Thus Muslim men are allowed to marry and have intercourse with young girls who have happened to have an early first menstrual cycle. As will be shown, this leads to physical and psychological damage to the child.
Don’t worry gitmo, they probably won’t circumcise Pelosi.
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By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
Have you noticed any improvement in the Middle East situation since Specter visited?
Neither have I.
By RW-(the original)
March 31, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Maybe Jon Stewart and the rest of you pansies should start realizing that Iran isn’t interested in being at peace with the west. They also want to spread fanatical Islam by the sword, not by siding up with a bunch of cowards so your and Jon Stewart’s plan to just give away America without a fight isn’t going to work.
Since we have to fight them anyway I prefer to win. We are in the neighborhood you know.
Geez indeed!
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
Getlife,
Here’s a website for you in case you decide you’d like to chaperone Madame Pelosi on your way to your hostage volunteer job in Iran.
You’ll note that the girls have to be at least 13 years old here which is a sign of progress since Mohammed’s day I suppose.
By Buy Danish
March 31, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this
RW,
What do you want to bet that Pelosi will be touting this aspect of life for Syrian women and saying we should be more like them?
All women are entitled to eight weeks paid maternity leave with additional leave possible at less pay. The government also provides national childcare for a small fee in schools and workplaces
By Candy As-s Liberals For Poof Withdrawal
March 31, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this
From the very first review of John and Teresa Heinz’s book This Moment In Earth (weep, weep) on Amazon:
“The Kerrys own five palatial mansions: a $7-million, 88-acre estate in Fox Chapel, Pa., near Pittsburgh that includes 14 bedrooms, 12 baths, a swimming pool, and a 9-room carriage house; a 12 room, $13-million townhouse on Boston’s Beacon Hill; a $12-million beach house in Nantucket; a $15-million ski chalet in Ketchum, Idaho, near Sun Valley, … and a 23 room, $4.7-million townhouse in the Georgetown section of Washington, D.C.” (From _Human Events_, August 30, 2004)
I’m confident that the Kerrys create a larger “carbon footprint” with their Ketchum compound alone than I do with my Idaho hovel, and I live here all year ‘round!
Furthermore, they’re not getting from place to place in public transportation, or a Prius, but rather a Gulfstream V jet.
What’s next? A book by David Duke on diversity? A tome by Bill Clinton on faith and fidelity in marriage?
Like Al Gore, the Kerrys are obviously shameless posers.
Ditto.
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By FlyGirl Pinkos For Al Qaeda, On Our Knees
April 1, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
Sorry to hear about your friend, Jim.
You can’t expect a lib to act like an adult for more than a few minutes:
So forgive me for believing that some things are more important than winning elections. War is one of them. It’s a matter in which even elected officials ought to be prepared to put principle above politics.
Can this really be Grand Poohba of the Urinal Editorial Board or am I on the wrong page, no it’s her, what’s up with the clear headed, realistic, non partisan reasoning? Is this the start of a new trend, the turning of a leaf so to speak?
{{{Middle East: Now that President Bush and his neoconservative chickenhawks have dragged us into Iraq, leaving won’t be simple or pretty.}}}
Uh, never mind.
Let’s check and see what the “chickenhawks” were saying before we were “drug” into Iraq: {{{Although no one doubts our forces will prevail over Saddam Hussein’s, key regional leaders confirm what the Foreign Relations Committee emphasized in its Iraq hearings last summer: The most challenging phase will likely be the day after—or, more accurately, the decade after—Saddam Hussein. Once he is gone, expectations are high that coalition forces will remain in large numbers to stabilize Iraq and support a civilian administration. That presence will be necessary for several years, given the vacuum there, which a divided Iraqi opposition will have trouble filling and which some new Iraqi military strongman must not fill… . Americans are largely unprepared for such an undertaking. President Bush must make clear to the American people the scale of the commitment.- Joe Biden and Chuck Hagel, Neocon chickenhawks}}}
All of these pinkos voted to invade Iraq and now we have them on record voting to abandon the Iraqi people and our soldiers.
Shameless cowards all.
And check this out for prime examples of two faced pinko speak:
There is no way to undo the damage we’ve done.
That in the middle of a column saying we can’t leave? Does Cynthia want U.S. troops to die for no reason? Her argument at it’s very basis belies the fact that we are doing good in Iraq but her mouth says there is no hope. Which Queen Pinko do we believe?
Keeping significant numbers of U.S. troops on patrol will lead to a higher casualty count, but not much else.
And unless thousands of U.S. troops are left behind to keep out meddlers, the entire Middle East could erupt in conflict.
Let me guess, nuance, right?
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By Markus
April 1, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
Listening to the al Jazeera Editorial board neoStalinists squeak about “chickenhawks” is hilarious. These are the same group of minions who want to sit behind a keyboard all day and tell “neocons” how much we should shell out for the “poor” instead of getting off their own @sses and doing something for the “poor” themselves. Keyboard socialist advocates… that’s all they are. And then we have idiots like the Breck Girl in his North Carolina castle running for office sqeaking about the “poor.” Laughable.
Chickenboards!
By For the Record ...
April 1, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Chuck Hagel is a wounded and decorated combat veteran of the Vietnam War.
“Chickenhawk” refers to right-wingers who are bellicose about sending young men and women to war without having had the courage to fight in one themseleves (e.g., Bush, Cheney, Newt, Dan Quayle, Bill Kristol, Wolfowitz, Tom Delay, O’Reilly, Pat Buchanan, Rush, et. al.)
My nomination for the best two chickenhawk stories are Rush (excused from the draft because he had a recurring pimple on his rear end), and this quote from Tom Delay: “So many minority youths had volunteered…that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like myself.”
And before you bring up Democrats, remember, the chickenhawks supported the Vietnam war — as long as someone else had to do the fighting and dying there.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this
“For the record” (ie: liberal ID poofer), until you donate your time going to the store and feeding and clothing the poor or until you smash a thumb building a Habitat For Humanity home in the middle of July, I don’t want to hear one effin’ peep about the “poor” from you neoStalinist liberal chickenboards.
By @@
April 1, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Jim, I was saddened to read your column about the passing of Bill Oettmeier. Your sentiments were well written and brought his legacy to life.
That is, afterall, what’s important in our living. You can either do something “good” with the time you’re allotted or you can waste it in “the complaint department”. Doesn’t look like Bill wasted too much time standing in that long line.
If Mr. Oettmeier could dictate a letter to the world, he’d probably ask Emily Dickinson to help compose it, but since he and Emily are both busy elsewhere, I don’t mind helping out…
This Could Be Bill’s Letter to the World
This is my letter to the world, That never wrote to me, The simple news that Nature told, With tender majesty.
Her message is committed To hands I cannot see; For love of her, sweet countrymen, Judge tenderly of me!
You’ve got it Mr. Oettmeier.
Tenderly, it is. I’m planting some dogwood saplings today. One will have your name on it.
See ‘ya Jim.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Social warmonger:
“FIGHT THE WAR ON POVERTY! FEED THE POOR! NO CHILDREN GOING TO BED COLD AND HUNGRY!”
So, what have YOU done on the battlefield of the poor in this nation protester hero? Have you gone house to house feeding them? Have you built homes to shelter them? Have you bought them clothes to make sure they don’t get cold at night? Have you volunteered to pay their heating oil bills in the winter?
chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp
HELL NO, you just sit on your fatass behind a keyboard all day wanting OTHERS to do your work via neoMarxist liberal taxation policies for others to pay for what you want. Effin’ hypocritical liberal jackasses.
Nothing from these liberals sewer RATs on the left is meaningful. Nothing. Dead air. Worthless. Meaningless. Garbage.
By Candy As-s Liberals For Poof Withdrawal
April 1, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
{{{By For the Record … April 1, 2007 8:54 AM Chuck Hagel is a wounded and decorated combat veteran of the Vietnam War. “Chickenhawk” refers to right-wingers who are bellicose about sending young men and women to war without having had the courage to fight in one themseleves}}}
Alright, let’s compromise like you candy as-ses like to do with the enemy, I’ll make a new word then:
ChickenCoward
That’s for all you pervert libs that voted for the war because you were scared to lose an election and now have voted against the war because you are scared of losing an election.
You are the worst kind of coward, unprincipled partisan wormy maggots, only thinking of your slimy career in government.
Pis-s off.
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By Jim Wooten
April 1, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
@@ at 9:22: You post touches my heart. Thank you.
I’ll post a new topic later today.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
On Meet The Depressed, Hatch never interrupted Leahy, but Leahy tried it with Hatch. Yeah you TELL Leahy to SHUT UP when he interrupts you, Hatch. It’s about time the Republicans start growing a pair against these dirty RATs. I am WAY over their shenanigans of Frankensteining “scandals.”
By JP
April 1, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
Markus - The original tax cuts were misguided. Repealing a tax cut isn’t a “tax increase” unless the rates after the repeal are higher than they were in the first place.
We all know the Repug’s are gonna frame the tax cut repeal issue as the “biggest tax increase ever.” It’s time we consider that to be the spin that it really is.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this
JP,
It’s your economy when those “misguided” tax cuts are repealed. That will be YOUR baby to take care of startig from Nanny Pelosivich. But alas, you are of the ilk where tax refunds are “given” and income is “redistributed,” so ask me if I really give a damn what you Marxist liberal RATs on the left think about the matter. I’ve got my way out planned.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
One more thing JP, coming from someone who probably agrees with the RAT pack that a non-increase in funding of a social policy is a “decrease” in next year’s funding budget, I’d hardly consider whatever you have to say on the matter of tax increases as credible as well.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Sunday morning political TV shows are about 67% RAT representation, and 33% Republican representation. This is a combination of watching this morning’s Meet The Depressed, Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace, Chris “Softballs” Matthews (just started), and George Steponanoctopus (just started).
And to think the limpwristed left complains about AM talk radio and Fox News. When there are no Conservative thoughts espoused or represented anymore, the Party Of The Permanently Miserable will finally sit down and STFU.
Looks like these jackals on the miserable left will be miserable for some time to come.
By Midori
April 1, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
Markus,
what about all the times Hatch interrupted Leahy?
Does that give Leahy the right to tell Hatch to STFU?
Hatch also needs to check his shrill-meter.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
Softballs Matthews to Joe Klein of Time:
“So, Joe, you are the number one expert on the Clintons… what do you think about..”
Klein never saw the Clintoons behind the scenes like freaking Clintoon political advisor Dick Morris did. But since Dick Morris has negatives to say about the Clintoons, he’s not an “expert” on them.
You just have to love the mentality of liberal demoncat Mr. Potatohead Matthews.
By the way, how valid is that “poll” out there that says 50% of Americans ID themselves as RAT yet only 35% as Republican? WTF? Are all those people who voted for Reagan in a landslide twice and Gingrich & CO. either dead or have turned RAT? Puh-leeze. Oh sure, and Bush blew up the World Trade Center too. Idiots.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
ID poofer Midori,
Hatch needs to do MORE of it. I’m all but fed up with your snakes on the left.
By getalife
April 1, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
I planted some hydroponic weed and will call it wingnut wooten.
It dulls the senses.
Geez.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
LA Slimes:
Still no $ale. What a damned shame.
“Like most newspaper companies, Tribune has been struggling with declining profits, circulation and advertising revenues.”
Hmmm. Now would that be because of the internet or would that be because Americans are SICK of liberal demoncats running those papers and posting their opinions and OpEds instead of reporting the freaking NEWS?
See today’s al Jazeera Constipation “Our Opinion” (that’s Cynthia’s opinion for you blue-haired liberal freaks in Little Five Points) for an analysis of alleged objective “reporting.”
By getalife
April 1, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
“Apparently blind fealty to Bush and the GOP is the way you show your love for Jesus.”
By Markus
April 1, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
Old dried up liberal snagglepuss Gerry Ferraro says “the only thing that can stop Hillary becoming the next president would be smears and dirty tricks.”
It’s called P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S, you moron. If you limpwristed invertebrate liberal demoncat Sheilas can’t take the heat, then get the hell BACK in the kitchen and let REAL women like Condi Rice, Lizzie Dole, and Mary Matilin run things.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/01/wclint01.xml
By Markus
April 1, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
Apparently supporting funding for “art” that includes a statue of the Virgin Mary in a glass of urine and feces smeared on a portrait of Jesus is the liberal DNC way to Christ’s heart as well.
By getalife
April 1, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
Gingrich Calls Bilingual Ed, “The Language Of Living In A Ghetto”
Keep talking Newt.
You will get some of the white voters and nobody else.
Landslide for the Dems in 08.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
Listen to the towelhead anti-Western warmongers in Iran whine about Britain:
“After the arrest of these people, the British government, instead of apologizing and expressing regret, over the action taken, started to claim that we are in their debt and shouted in different international councils,”
Oh WAAAAH. Britain gave the middle finger to Iran and went to Big Brother in a legal matter instead of bending over facing East and wussifying themselves.
Why Iran has not been specifically threatened with a release deadline yet is beyond me. The more we all sit back and be wussies, the stronger their will of destroying us all becomes.
AHCKmadinejad: “We’ll destroy Israel first, and America next.”
http://www.jtf.org/america/america.iranian.dictator.vows.to.destroy.america.htm
US out of the UN, UN out of the US.
By getalife
April 1, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
This is not the way to follow Jesus:
Iraq Says Truck Bomb in North Killed 152
Lying, cheating, stealing and killing are ways to follow Satan not Jesus.
Geez.
By getalife
April 1, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
Iraq did not attack us and neither will Iran.
The Saudi king who said w’s disaster is a illegimitate occupation is correct.
The neocons should stand trial in Iraq for this crime.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this
“Pet Food Chemical May Be Worse for Cats.”
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070331/D8O7CG6O0.html
Yeah, so what?
By Buy Danish
April 1, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
Is this how you Libs keep folks on the plantation?
Develop a Mulitcultural Curriculum- Classroom diversity is the starting point.
(Click on the Diversity Dialogue Newsletter to get these excerpts)
Black English Vernacular (BEV)- BEV is a dialect of English (referred to as ebonics) spoken primarily by African Americans.
It is important to reassure students they can learn to use standard English without losing their familiar language.
Teachers can:
Switch into BEV in specific situations or informal discussion
Students can:
Translate common phrases in Standard English into BEV.
By Candy As-s Liberals For Poof Withdrawal
April 1, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
So we live today in a world of one-way sovereignty: American, British and Iraqi forces in Iraq respect the Syrian and Iranian borders; the Syrians and Iranians do not respect the Iraqi border. Patrolling the Shatt al-Arab at a time of war, the Royal Navy operates under rules of engagement designed by distant fainthearts with an eye to the polite fictions of “international law”: If you’re in a ”warship,” you can’t wage war. If you’re in a ”destroyer,” don’t destroy anything. If you’re in a “frigate,” you’re frigging done for. On Sept. 11, a New York skyscraper was brought down by the Egyptian leader of a German cell of an Afghan terror group led by a Saudi. Islamism is only the first of many globalized ideological viruses that will seep undetected across national frontiers in the years ahead. Meanwhile, we put our faith in meetings of foreign ministers.
So where’s Pelosi at today, anybody want to take a guess?
Doing her best imitation of Jimmy Carter, babbling like an idiot in front of a bunch of people that want to kill all of us?
Wanna bet she comes out of the palace wearing a burqa?
They don’t give a F about what we have to say, same as I went this morning and “forgave of the sins against me,” these killers probably apologized for not slaughtering any infidels or Jews last week.
What are we “talking” to them about?
And where did 8 years of Clinton wind and noise and light get us?
Flaming skyscrapers with people leaping out of them?
STFU and bomb them.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
By getalife
April 1, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
$4 Gas? Some Fear Iran Crisis Could Jack Up Prices
Well, w has stolen enough of unmetered Iraqi oil and unfortunately so has the insurgents to fund their war.
w is going back to Brazil and is pushing ethanol to the big three auto makers. Jeb is invested in ethanol which is great news for ethanol investors.
Not corn but sugarcane.
Thanks w, keep pimping that sugarcane ethanol.
By RW-(the original)
April 1, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
JW’s new column is posted.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
It’s hilarious watching all these sick demoncat liberal nazi facsists from hell mention Jesus when their warped, sick, demented, perverted world including abortion is valid in their pathetic minds. Effin’ worthless cherry-picking filthy RAT vermin. Every last one of the invertibrate creatures on the left.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
Oh great. Fist ebonics is a valid teaching tool for our liberal nazi indoctrination camps of government schooling. Next up, math, where the right answer is not as important as trying to get it with a consensus of “The Village.”
The disease of liberalism is damning this nation to self destruction.
By steve-o
April 1, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
What the hell are you guys b!thching about? The link said that Rochester city schools doesn’t teach BEV.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this
steve-o,
Instead of being an overemotional little girlie boy liberal with ADD, why don’t you PUT DOWN YOUR BARBIE DOLL AND PAY ATTENTION.
“The article in the Diversity Dialogue notes that many students use BEV. It encourages teachers to recognize this fact and to not pre-judge students’ intelligence or lower their expectations of students based on their use of non-standard English.”
Now by NOT teaching students that ebonics is not proper in American society, we can easily deduce that they are condoning this twisted “cool” way of thinking. NOT correcting = TEACHING. In an indirect way. But I know pansieassed liberal demoncats like YOU are more afraid of offending someone that freaking TEACHING THEM. Blow it out your @ss, RAT.
By steve-o
April 1, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this
Markus,
You are way too sensitive and immature to have any decent political conversation.
The article said that teachers shouldn’t have lower expectations for students that speak in BEV. It didn’t say anything about not teaching them proper English or encouraging them to use BEV. Again, it said that they shouldn’t have lower expectations of students based on their use of BEV.
So I ask you again, what are you b!tching about?
By Buy Danish
April 1, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
Steve,
You are very gullible aren’t you? The Rochester School District spun it to deny that they were using BEV or Ebonics, but if you read the “Diversity Dialogue” PDF, it clearly promotes the use of “BEV” to promote “self-esteem”.
Marcus,
Here is a wonderful parody of Ebonics, called Hebonics.
Enjoy!
By steve-o
April 1, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
You guys are seriously over-reacting. The Rochester schools are figuring out ways to better teach kids Standard English. Recongnizing the fact that a significant proportion of black children speak a certain pattern of English dialect at home and then teaching STANDARD ENGLISH according to that is not too far-fetched. Again, they are trying to teach the kids STANDARD ENGLISH. Don’t we all agree that kids should learn STANDARD ENGLISH?
By Buy Danish
April 1, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this
Massah Steve,
Do you seriously think that there is a place in the classrooms for students to translate standard English into Ebonics, or that teachers should talk in EBV to their students?
Shall we start with Shakespeare?
The soft bigotry of low expectations.
By Markus
April 1, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
Great link BD! Thanks!
Steve-o, I’ll let you know how I personally feel about your personal opinions of me as soon as I get off the toilet. You aholes on the left are all equally worthless to me.
By steve-o
April 1, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Growing up black and employing the use of BEV quite frequently throughout my life, I really don’t see what the huge controversy is. There are certain speech patterns that a lot of blacks use based on many influences. Obviously this is a touchy subject and should be handled with the uttmost delicacy so as to not offend anyone with any form of condescension. But I truly believe that if teachers can find creative and innovative ways to effectively teach proper English grammar, then why not give it a shot. I mean, we want to make sure that no child is left behind…correct?
Markus,
Enjoy your time on the toilet! I truly wish you the best of luck in dislodging whatever it is that is rammed up your arse!
By Buy Danish
April 1, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
Steve-O,
I hope you are not in any position to “educate” our children. Pandering to people and worrying about how “delicate” the situation is a useless solution and a typical liberal response.
Engaging students in the vernacular only exacerbates the problem. The best way to teach “proper English grammar” is to speak it properly. That is how language is learned. It’s really very simple.
Call it a form of tough love.
By steve-o
April 1, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
I never said anything about pandering and sensitivity. I think that teaching students and making linkages between the material that they learn and real life experiences is an effective way of teaching.
By Buy Danish
April 1, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
Obviously this is a touchy subject and should be handled with the uttmost delicacy so as to not offend anyone with any form of condescension.
Steve-O,
That’s what you said.
By steve-o
April 1, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
There’s nothing wrong with making sure that you don’t come off as arrogant or condescending…it’s called tact.
By Metric Man
April 1, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Andy
Markus
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By Buy Danish
April 1, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this
Steve-O,
No one is suggesting that these kids be treated in a demeaning manner. Teaching the correct way to do something is not condescending in and of itself. If a white child is taught to say “I am not” instead of “ain’t”, no one gives it a second thought.
Suggesting that teachers engage them in the vernacular, or that students translate standard English into the vernacular IS condescending.
It assumes that they can’t learn standard English without being pandered to.