Thinking Right

By Mid-South Philosopher

March 1, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Good morning to all,

Every living, breathing human being from “high church” Episcopalian to “foot washing” Baptist gambles every single day. However, the preponderance of us do not wager. As an American, I am in favor of responsible adults having the option, albeit the preponderance of adults are not responsible in the post-modern world, to do either.

Consequently, I would not have a problem with Zell Miller being cast in granite. After all, he is the ONLY Governor of Georgia in the last 35 years that did “diddlie-squat” for public school teachers, despite the rhetoric of the vast number of Democratic and Republican excuses.

As to another great Georgian who has done much for our state, I would nominate Tommy Irvin, Georgia Commissioner of Agriculture and the one Democrat the Republicans can’t touch. Tommy is a statesman…something we don’t see too often in government at any level. He may be “country” and not quite as “sophisticated” as some of the lace-wearers might desire, but he has kept our food supply safe and our agri-business interests in this state strong.

By Redneck Convert

March 1, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

I say we put up a statue of a great Georgia leader, J.B. Stoner. He was Thinking Right even before Wooten was borned. He was knowed for great thinking. He was the first to offer real money to any of Those People that would move out of Georgia. Sure, he kind of forgot to check for people before he put a bomb in that church in Birmingham, but we all make mistakes. He died just a couple years ago.

If it wasn’t for old J.B., we wouldn’t have conservatives like Wooten, jbmlaw, Markus, Dusty, TFTT and Van. J.B. was Thinking Right before they was ever born. They think just like he did, only he used plain words to say it. They beat about the bush a lot, but their heart is the same as J.B.’s. They hate Those People and poor people and kids on welfare, only they use fancy words to say it. So nobody won’t think they think like they do.

So put up a big statue to J.B. Us White people can be mighty proud seeing J.B. right there with old Zell. Two great Americans that Think Right.

By CJ

March 1, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

“I say, bomb the hell out of them. If there’s collateral damage, so be it.”

This quote is from Senator Miller days after 9/11. I was mad too, but never so mad that I didn’t care if we also killed innocent men, women and children. The line between targeting civilians and indifference to the lives of civilians in times of war, as demonstrated by our use of the phrase “collateral damage”, is much finer than Zell would have us believe. We lost about 3,000 innocents, mostly Americans on 9/11. We have also lost tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of innocent Iraqis since the war began.

I also whole heartedly agree with Jim’s comments to the effect that we, via our State government, should not be in the business of running a gambling operation for any reason. The means do not justify the ends.

Finally, as Senator, Miller voted for budgets that resulted in trillions more in debt, and will ultimately result in higher taxes for our children, and quite likely, their children as well.

No, I do not support erecting a statue to honor Zell Miller.

By Van

March 1, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

To be fair to all political parties and special interest groups, there should be 5 and only 5 places for statues or busts. When someone nominates a new tribute, one of the 5 has to be removed.

As a start, how about the last 5 Georgia Governors.

By Brian Curtis

March 1, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

I wouldn’t have a problem with Zell being cast in concrete… preferably before it hardens.

By Van

March 1, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

Careful, your sadism is showing.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

March 1, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

I have to agree with redneck Convert. Stoner would be right at home with the other lynchmobbers honored on the capitol grounds - like Tom Watson and the Talmadges. And Zig Zag Zell’s snarling hillbilly visage would be right at home there too. Give him a corncob pipe and a Snuffy Smith hat. Let’s not leave out Lester Maddox either - Zell used to be his bag boy, old Lester taught Zell everything he knows.

By JohnD

March 1, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Harry Truman, a Democrat, made the most difficult decision I can imagine when he authorized the use of atomic bombs on Japan. In the process thousands of “innocent’ Japanese civilians were killed or permanently injured. President Truman also saved the lives of thousands of American and Japanese soldiers.

War IS hell and Islam formally declared a war on the United States on 9/11 that Islam has been waging for at least the past 25 years.

The difference between the view of people like CJ and the realists is that CJ will mock the “term collateral” damage as though somehow indicating an indifference to the killing while Islam actually targets innocent civilians whether or not they are women and children.

Islam is a geo-political movement intent on the destruction of Western civilization and until the Left comes to this fact the real work will be for the conservatives to do. Perhaps if the next attack is on the neighborhood where CJ lives or CJ’s relatives, then the will to do what must be accomplished will actually surface in a blind leftist.

By Kelly

March 1, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

JohnD seems to be under the impression that Iraq had something to do with 9/11.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

March 1, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

Yes, Kelly, and the silly redneck fool also thinks that there is a formal declaration of war against the US from some country named Islam.

Red staters are so stupid.

By Kenny Rogers

March 1, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

By Jim Wooten | Thursday, March 1, 2007, 08:05 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Zell Miller. While I’m a great fan of Zell as U.S. Senator, I have a problem erecting a monument to a governor who invited Georgians to engage in behavior that could be harmful to them and their families, as gambling is.

So Jim, I take it that you would not erect a monument to the heavy drinking gambler and champion of virtue, Bill Bennett either?

By D.A. King

March 1, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

I second that Redneck Convert! Where is ole J.B. when we really need him? If I had some more guys like him on my team we’d a had them Mexicans outta here a long time ago! If it ain’t white, it ain’t right fer Amuricah.

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. Seems like this subject, or something similar, came up a couple of weeks ago. While I do not dislike any of the suggested names, I think nobody should be there whose only achievement is political - they would thus be given credit for using what their citizens gave. The only people who should be honored in the capital are our highest military heroes, people who performed alone, and many of whom sacrificed all, for the good of all.

By Brian Curtis

March 1, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

John D also seems to be under the impression that our enemies’ tactics should control how we practice our own principles.

By @@

March 1, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Oh my goodness Jim, you’re asking for reflection on Georgia’s great ones dating back 100 years?

I ain’t THAT old, although the liberals over at ml’s place frequently refer to me as an “Old Hag”, wrinkled and saggy, with no life to speak of.

I AIN’T THAT OLD. Oops! I already mentioned that, didn’t I? Sometimes you just have to repeat these things over and over again, for the liberals to understand.

Anyway, haven’t resided in Georgia long enough to go back too far, but Martin Luther King, most definitely should be there.

The Talmadges? Puhhleeeeze. If the descendants are any indication, an aluminum “nut” in some Pecan orchard down here in Clayton County’s panhandle would suffice.

I found Brian Curtis’s desire to encapsulate Zell in cement while still living, rather extreme. He’s a liberal though, so I guess he sings Soprano.

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Rednecks,

C’mon now. Watson was a patriot who justifiably whipped up the yocals in uncontrolled rage because that smug Jew boy’s death sentence was overturned. His statue should’ve been cast in gold. Now if we can only frame an Arab middle-manager for a crime here in Georgia so we can lynch us a Muslim also…

By TFTrealTruth

March 1, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

And who would qualify as a “military hero” jbmlaw? You could get overwhelming support for William T. Sherman based upon Georgia’s new demographics.

By Van

March 1, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

I think Stoner would be a great candidate for a statue, Eugene, not JB. He is a giant along with Garand and Browning.

By Curious Observer

March 1, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

I would honor no politician, regardless of party, with a statue on the grounds of the Capitol.

If I had to choose one Georgian to honor in such a way, it would be the late Marine Gen. Raymond G. Davis, a Fitzgerald native and a Georgia Tech graduate who won the Medal of Honor for leading his battalion to rescue a besieged company on an icy mountainside during the Chosin Reservoir withdrawal in January 1950. It is not every serviceman who can inspire respect so great that the commandant of the Marine Corps walked behind his coffin at the funeral a few years ago. General Davis had previously won the Navy Cross, the Navy’s second-highest award, during the fighting in the Palua Islands in World War II.

He is the kind of person Georgia ought to be commemorating, not the slick politicans who think only of garnering political power.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Zell Miller after he magically and hilariously taunted the leftist appeasing filth in his inimitable bi-partisan way at the Bush GOP convention is clearly worthy of an immediate statue. Any leftist scumbag who disagrees should simply be drowned in a sea of liberal “spitballs”.

Newt of course is another must have statue. I humbly suggest John Rocker too - for his visionary courageous comments about New Yawwwk City. Perhaps Otis Redding - who unlike James Brown actually had musical talent. As MLK blatantly cheated on his doctoral thesis and frequently on his very snotty wife and he has his own memorial in DC now being thrust upon the nation its just not right to waste precious space ‘twice’.

We need to be reminded of the evil demoNcrat segregationist past so a few of the more infamous demoNcrat Georgia governors would be worthy of a small demoNcrat hall of bigots.

The odious leftist anti-semitic America hating gutless appeaser Karter should be suitably mocked with a current photo of this senile old narcissist in an outdoor, open all hours state “wankers” gallery of shame that kids and fun loving folks can throw eggs and squishy tomatoes at … and even the occasional patriotic spitball. Other must haves for this gallery of abject shame include the corrupt to the core felon Billy bigot Campbell, the disgraced racist anti-semitic McKinneys, the black bigot Tyrone ‘shoelaces’ Brooks, the race baiting M Jackson, the wanker R Barnes for destroying the much loved state flag. The treasonous Hanoi Jane, J Roberts and other Hollywood filth should also be included. As should the thuggish Poof Daddy and other knuckle dragging hippety hop types who have deeply shamed Georgia with their primitive gangsta/ganja lovin’ pornography.

Oh yeah … and a picture of the horribly snotty Coretta S King not talking to anyone on a plane.

By Steven Daedalus

March 1, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Yes Zell should be cast in granite. There should be two figures, he and another, the other would have a knife stuck in his back. This would give a true representation of Zell and his politics.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

March 1, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Let’s not forget a big big statue of Saxby Chambliss - put a big yellow stripe down his back - he’s done a fine job representing the many Georgia chickenhawks…

Heck, there’s an 18 foot statue to Richard Russell - all he did was filibuster civil rights legislation.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Profuse apologies folks … the most obvious AND FIRST three statues should be:

Robert E. Lee (PBUH)

Stonewall Jackson

Jefferson Davis

By Don Walker

March 1, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

You fault Zell for helping more kids go to college and bringing Georgia a program that everyone now emulates. Are the asylums and homeless shelters packed with lottery addicts? No.

Moron.

Your head is made of granite, Jim. I’ll be glad when they put you out to pasture next month.

By Titus

March 1, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

A granite bust of Sherman would be appropriate for the Capitol. Who has had such a profound impact on Georgia? Why General Sherman of course.

By TFTrealTruth

March 1, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Even amid the well deserved sarcasm here today, in the sarcasm there is a tragic element of truth. It seems that the rest of the south is shaking off the taint of slavery and racism, while Georgia is heading at warp speed in the opposite direction. There is no doubt that there is an element here in Georgia that longs for the days of Jim Crow. They love the politics of exclusion. It seems that every news item associated with Georgia on national news media is another story about a race based issue. When you are as low on the totem pole educationally as is the state of Georgia, there are a helluva lot better things for our politicians to do than to be pandering to racists, bigots, nativists, and xenophobes. I am a native Georgian and remember when this state was seen as progressive. Now we are starting to be an embarrassment.

By DebbieDoRight

March 1, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

War IS hell and Islam formally declared a war on the United States on 9/11 that Islam has been waging for at least the past 25 years.

Bin Laden declared war on the US on 9/11 — not Islam.

Do we have a statue of the Founder of Modern Georgia? Sherman? I say we put a statue up of Margaret Mitchell — no one had ever heard of Georgia until she wrote that book.

By Jack

March 1, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

If all the politicians acted without partisianship as Zell this country would be a much better place.

By Janice B.

March 1, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Oh yeah … and a picture of the horribly snotty Coretta S King not talking to anyone on a plane

They should do a statue of you. You could be the jacka$$ pulling a wagon of ignorant hillbilly children to our fine georgia schools.

By Realist

March 1, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

A monument of Evander Holyfield’s penis and another one of any random mexican’s..since they’ve done more to Georgia’s population than anybody else.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

sad cow janice

Scott King was UNDENIABLY an extremely snotty, haughty mercenary woman. She literally lived of her dead husband’s name. She also refused to talk to nayone on a plane and arrogantly insisted on an APD escort right to the plane every time she went any where.

AS for fine GA schools … *HUGE LEFTIST LIE THERE LOVEYKINS * … you’re having a larrrff lovey!! Thanks to the liberal brainwashing, the evils of the multi culti anti-racist bollocks and the sickening cult of the narcissistic self esteem drivel etc tax payer funded schools in GA are a freaking joke!!

By Walt

March 1, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Yes, Evander Holyfield would be appropriate for immortalization by statue. God saved Evander from his heart affliction on national TV through Bennie Hinn. Evander is a hero of the right. He carries on in the tradition of Newt Gingrich. Evoke the name of God in every other sentence and then populate the earth with 9 children from seven different women. Another shining example of right wing christian values. Another do as I sayer, not as I doer.

By getalife

March 1, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

President Carter, of course.

Geez, zig zag rolling papers for Zell.

By Jack

March 1, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

If they do one for Carter they should also do one for Cynthia McKinney.

By Jack

March 1, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

We need one for Coretta “Show me the money” Scott King also.

By Janice B.

March 1, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Dr. King had patented his speeches; since that was the only thing he had left to give to his family. She didn’t “live off her dead husband” she lived off of his patented writings.

Sad little person, Mrs. King was looked upon as a living legend of the Civil Rights Movement; so that means she probably had a lot of people who, like you, couldn’t wait to shoot her in the back, or discredit any or everything that came out of her mouth for their own propaganda related schemes. I would not have talked to you people either nor would I have allowed you church bombers, baby killers, bed wetters anywhere near me either. Mrs. King wasn’t a stupid woman.

By Van

March 1, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

I have a compromise -

As you face the front of the Capitol building downtown, the left side would be statues for the liberal folks and on the right side would be statues for the conservative folks.

We can paint them red or blue. The pigeons will make them all white after a few years.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

March 1, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

I think we need a statue for some lobbyists….after all, they’re the ones doing all the hard work.

The legislature is just rubberstamping their stuff:

Choosing exploitation on payday lending

Support for payday lending bill exposes lawmakers’ loyalty to special interests that fund their campaigns

Published on: 03/01/07

Consumer guru Clark Howard does not easily part with a dollar, so the fact that he sacrificed two workdays to plead with the General Assembly to oppose the payday lending bill ought to tell you something: It’s a dangerous bill for Georgia consumers.

The Legislature chose to disregard Howard’s warnings that the bill does nothing to help unpracticed borrowers create credit histories and improve their financial wherewithal. He calls the bill “garbage.”

Rather than listen to Howard, the lawmakers embraced the position of the payday lenders themselves — poor Georgians need quick access to cash even at exploitative interest rates. The payday loan bill passed out of the House Banks and Banking Committee and now moves to the full House for a vote.

The saga of the payday loan bill represents everything that’s wrong with the Georgia General Assembly. Payday loans — in which the borrower writes a post-dated check to a lender for the loan amount, plus a fee — have never been legal in Georgia. But because profits were high and penalties were low, the industry ignored the prohibition until 2004 when tougher criminal consequences were imposed. Those penalties finally chased the moneylenders out of the state.

The ban was celebrated by consumer advocates, who say that the triple-digit interest rates of payday loans only buried desperate borrowers deeper in debt.

So, why is the General Assembly trying to undo one of the few bona fide consumer protections it ever passed? Because, rather than represent everyday Georgians, legislators are pushing the agenda of their big-money contributors.

No one has even tried to disguise the politics at play in the payday debate. The sponsor of the bill doesn’t pretend that his constituents in Marietta clamored for this bill; Rep. Steve Tumlin (R-Marietta) admits that industry folks asked him to sponsor the legislation.

Despite the fierce opposition to the bill from all the leading consumer groups in the state, along with many churches and experts like Howard, Tumlin says, “Sometimes you take a job and you just have to finish it.”

“Why,” asks a frustrated Howard, “does he consider it to be his job to do something that harms Georgians?” As a student of Georgia politics, Howard knows the discouraging answer to that question. “Between the dynamics in the hearing room and all the backslapping outside, it was clear the legislators look at the payday lenders as their constituents,” he said.

The rawest political moments in the payday tale came when GOP Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine refused to follow the script and endorse the bill. Oxendine attacked the bill for the cancer that it is, angering Rep. Earl Ehrhart (R-Powder Springs).

Oxendine discovered quickly that the GOP leadership would not tolerate anyone breaking ranks. House leaders moved swiftly to limit damage and Oxendine’s influence. First, the bill was changed so that oversight of the payday industry was yanked out of Oxendine’s control and given over to the Department of Banking and Finance. Then, Ehrhart introduced a bill that would strip Oxendine of his authority to license and oversee finance companies that lend $3,000 or less under the Georgia Industrial Loan Act.

If anyone wonders why less than half of the 4.4 million registered voters in Georgia bothered to vote in the last election, the payday loan bill provides the answer: Unless you are a big money contributor, Georgia legislators are not interested in you.

By Where have all the English teachers gone?

March 1, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Am I the only one bothered by the egregious grammatical error in the headline?

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

janice,

tooltime is a certifiable schmuck who tries to get attention anyway he can. He slams Mrs. King only to get high fives and kudos from other miserable low-lifes who have f%ck all to do except to bleat and complain how hard it is to be middle to upper-class.

Despite the fact that MLK is considered one of the greatest orators in Amercian history, as well as being the strongest advocate for a supreme just and moral cause, insufferable morons like tooltime can do nothing except to dig-up any rumor regarding their personal lives.

Meanwhile, tooltime’s personal life is infinitely sad and pathetic. His mere obsession with black “hippety hop thugs” leads me to believe that he has a hard time “measuring up” when it really counts leading to a very sad and frustrated Mrs. Tooltime.

You should thank God, Allah, Satan, or whatever it is you worship, for the internet, because if it weren’t for this media, you’d be an idiot loon relegated to wearing his “bollocks” commentary on a sandwich board in front of Five Points station.

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

The “you” in that last paragraph of my last post should read tooltime hence:

tooltime should thank God, Allah, Satan, or whatever it is you worship, for the internet, because if it weren’t for this media, you’d be an idiot loon relegated to wearing his “bollocks” commentary on a sandwich board in front of Five Points station.

By AND THE CREDIT GOES TO

March 1, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

MAUREEN DOWNEY, FOR THE EDITORIAL BOARD OF THE AJC.

THE LIBERAL CHERRY PICKER DOESN’T WANT TO READ FROM JIM’S CHERRY TREE AND DOESN’T WANT TO AWARD BY-LINES OBVIOUSLY.

PLAGIARISM WITHOUT THEM JACP.

By RWH

March 1, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

We as citizens and public office officials of this state cannot get our act together! We lack in so many areas support for our very own. Yet, we are always asking for more taxes, funding unneeded programs; kickbacks to office officials and we say…we are to busy to hate. cities trying to break-way so that they can have a good life without going through a lot of red tape and a lot of unnecessary procedures that continue to go on for years! We are so blind to many facts that we keep our eys close because we do not want stir up anything. We need to stir up our own problems and fix them with good laws that can give even the poor a will to want to work. It appear that we still living in the (haves and the have-nots.) It shows our visitors because we want to show a good image, but behind that images are families and many or our needed services hurt. I will say this again and again, people who live here in Georgia are robbed of it rights to live, work and play because there is always loopwholes in a system that works well for the rich,the middle class foot the bills tail along while the poor trys to keep pace, yet it main focus is on just living. Revamping our cities must never be something to think about; in fact, its time that it be done! Everyone of us are deeply affected by lack of good paying jobs; cost of living, and minimum wages; yet we charge our consumer so much just to buy into everyday life. Now we continue to asked ourselves why so much crime, muders and our prisons and jails remian filled. A lion will wait for days to attack until he is sure he will make a kill. Our ongoings short comings must emulate the lion. We can suceed if we wait and do what is necessary. That will often change the course of how a city operates.

By Tyra

March 1, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

JohnD at 9:19: “Islam is a geo-political movement intent on the destruction of Western civilization and until the Left comes to this fact the real work will be for the conservatives to do.”

I’d like to know what “real work” JohnD is doing to protect us from terrorists. Truth be told, the only real work he does is to cast his ballot for chicken-hawks who send other people’s sons and daughters into harms way on a whim.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

sad cow janice

cheers for the magical hissy fit loveykins

still sniggering at its gormlessness!!

CS KIng was a wholly venal mercenary snotty woman, as are the rest of her vile family. they leech off the King name, whilst the centre rots and the staff (in the past) wait for their wages … DExter draws a huge salary whilst he shamelessly hangs in Kalifornia cynically using his famous surname to try and become a fourth rate actor.

“living legend” HA HA HA … LMFAO … that was your best one yet lovey … church bombers, baby killers, bed wetters TOO FUNNY - TOO FUNNY - stop honeybunch - you’re making my ribs sore from all the leftist racial pandering laughter!!

wanker steve

MLK CHEATED blatantly on his BU thesis … he copied huge chunks of work by other folks … but because he was black etc he got a shameful pass!! Others would have been kicked out in disgrace!

he regularly cheated on the snotty cow he was married too … but then so would anyone I suppose.

love all the personal abuse bollock chops … you’re just another sad pathetic leftist plebian hypocrital termite who when faced with irrefutable facts becomes personally abusive. research MLK honestly - what I say is absolutely true. His oratory skills were severely overrated … retrospective racial pandering is to blame. His one famous speech was filled with trite cliches … albeit worthy cliches that clearly needed stating, given the demoNcrat segregationists hateful attitude to blacks. Allaaaaaaaaargh be praised that the GOP voted in the Civil Rights Act because racist demoNcrat scum like the alBOre’s pappy and KKK Byrd and Thurmond and all the rest of then demoNcrat racists were wholly against it!!

BTW I heard that the last personal cheque you gave your ‘wife’ for services rendered bounced like a National Guard plastic bullet on a 1970’s Kalifornia kampus!! I heartily despise worthless scum like you - but it sure is superb fun abusing you!!

By Van

March 1, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Tyra,

Outside of the fact that JohnD is correct, he is trying to educate those on the left who do not believe we are in danger. He is doing more than you are.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

The “you” in that last paragraph of my last post should read …*

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN!!!

go jump under a moving MARTA bus or summat dickweed!!

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

March 1, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

And the credit goes to…

Waaaahhhhhh!!!! Sue me.

Or, alternatively, help me celebrate the nice number that corporate America, its lobbyists and “our” elected officials are doing on us.

Georgia’s got the best government money can buy. Celebrate it!

Cell-a-brate good times…Come On!

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Tyra

…Islam is a geopolitical movement intent on the destruction of Western civilization… ROTFLMAO!!!!

My stomach is hurting from laughing so much. My God man! Islam…a geopolitical MOVEMENT???!!! Not a religion, but a movement??!! Incredible. And let’s throw the big word “geopolitical” in there to make it sound like a clearly rational and intellectual argument! Oh my god! Still ROTFLMFAO!!

By TFTrealTruth

March 1, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

In other words TFTT, MLK and Newt Gingrich had many similar characteristics. Except that MLK had the courage to cross that bridge into Selma and face Bull Connor’s fire hoses and German Shepards in Birmingham, while Newt Gingrich resigned from congress ahead of his own bimbo eruption rather than courageously face his own hypocrisy when that scandal hit the media.

By Lord Doom

March 1, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Tyra needs to join Doom in a coital meeting.

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

tooltime,

That’s right…MLK got a pass because he was black. Just like all blacks got a free-ride during Jim Crow. What a freaking moron!

Overated orator? Are you kidding me? And oh yeah…read your history book idiot and recognize that Strom Thurmond switched from being a Democrat to being a Republican in 1964 because of the Civil Rights Act. Afterwards, many southern Democrats followed suit. Also recognize that the bill was signed and enacted by a Democrat president. What do you call that…oh yeah…”intellectual dishonesty”.

And the “dickweed” comment again? What a freaking child.

By YOU'RE MORE LIKELY

March 1, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

TO SUE ME JACP BECAUSE YOU DON’T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO DO THE JOB RIGHT.

YOU’RE BANKRUPT WHEN IT COMES TO RESPONSIBILITY.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

@ the wanky id copier

I have ALWAYS greatly honoured MLK’s bravery and dedication in his wholly reasonable and long over due demands for equal treatment for everyone. The glossing over of his blatant personal faults is quite repugnant … take the whole - man warts and all. Bull Connor was a typical demoNcrat of the day … like Gov Wallace, Maddox et al.

The glaring difference between Newt’s situation and the Arkansas rapist’s is that Newt was NOT a serial sexual predator, he married the lady after he divorced his wife as I understand it. Sick Willie just used his bimbos and lied and lied and smeared and threatened anyone who got in his white trash way!!

BTW its German Shepherd - or Alsatian if you’re from the UK.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

March 1, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Due to the amazing positive response I’ve received from the first post of this excellent editorial by Maureen Downey of the AJC’s editorial board, I’m going to post it again.

Ya’ll make sure you read it…because basically what it is saying is that Georgia legislators really don’t care what’s in the public’s best interest. They’re in this to serve their corporate masters, like the good little ho’s that they are.

And now, on to Maureen:

Choosing exploitation on payday lending

Support for payday lending bill exposes lawmakers’ loyalty to special interests that fund their campaigns

Published on: 03/01/07

Consumer guru Clark Howard does not easily part with a dollar, so the fact that he sacrificed two workdays to plead with the General Assembly to oppose the payday lending bill ought to tell you something: It’s a dangerous bill for Georgia consumers.

The Legislature chose to disregard Howard’s warnings that the bill does nothing to help unpracticed borrowers create credit histories and improve their financial wherewithal. He calls the bill “garbage.”

Rather than listen to Howard, the lawmakers embraced the position of the payday lenders themselves — poor Georgians need quick access to cash even at exploitative interest rates. The payday loan bill passed out of the House Banks and Banking Committee and now moves to the full House for a vote.

The saga of the payday loan bill represents everything that’s wrong with the Georgia General Assembly. Payday loans — in which the borrower writes a post-dated check to a lender for the loan amount, plus a fee — have never been legal in Georgia. But because profits were high and penalties were low, the industry ignored the prohibition until 2004 when tougher criminal consequences were imposed. Those penalties finally chased the moneylenders out of the state.

The ban was celebrated by consumer advocates, who say that the triple-digit interest rates of payday loans only buried desperate borrowers deeper in debt.

So, why is the General Assembly trying to undo one of the few bona fide consumer protections it ever passed? Because, rather than represent everyday Georgians, legislators are pushing the agenda of their big-money contributors.

No one has even tried to disguise the politics at play in the payday debate. The sponsor of the bill doesn’t pretend that his constituents in Marietta clamored for this bill; Rep. Steve Tumlin (R-Marietta) admits that industry folks asked him to sponsor the legislation.

Despite the fierce opposition to the bill from all the leading consumer groups in the state, along with many churches and experts like Howard, Tumlin says, “Sometimes you take a job and you just have to finish it.”

“Why,” asks a frustrated Howard, “does he consider it to be his job to do something that harms Georgians?” As a student of Georgia politics, Howard knows the discouraging answer to that question. “Between the dynamics in the hearing room and all the backslapping outside, it was clear the legislators look at the payday lenders as their constituents,” he said.

The rawest political moments in the payday tale came when GOP Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine refused to follow the script and endorse the bill. Oxendine attacked the bill for the cancer that it is, angering Rep. Earl Ehrhart (R-Powder Springs).

Oxendine discovered quickly that the GOP leadership would not tolerate anyone breaking ranks. House leaders moved swiftly to limit damage and Oxendine’s influence. First, the bill was changed so that oversight of the payday industry was yanked out of Oxendine’s control and given over to the Department of Banking and Finance. Then, Ehrhart introduced a bill that would strip Oxendine of his authority to license and oversee finance companies that lend $3,000 or less under the Georgia Industrial Loan Act.

If anyone wonders why less than half of the 4.4 million registered voters in Georgia bothered to vote in the last election, the payday loan bill provides the answer: Unless you are a big money contributor, Georgia legislators are not interested in you.

— Maureen Downey, for the editorial board (mdowney@ajc.com)

Let’s all celebrate and have a good time! Wah-hoo!

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

March 1, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

Why Jim, isn’t it obvious…we should honor the Georgia General Assembly!

One of your co-workers wrote this nifty little piece. I think it goes a long way towards explaining why we should celebrate the Georgia General Assembly for their excellent work.

Choosing exploitation on payday lending

Support for payday lending bill exposes lawmakers’ loyalty to special interests that fund their campaigns

Published on: 03/01/07

Consumer guru Clark Howard does not easily part with a dollar, so the fact that he sacrificed two workdays to plead with the General Assembly to oppose the payday lending bill ought to tell you something: It’s a dangerous bill for Georgia consumers.

The Legislature chose to disregard Howard’s warnings that the bill does nothing to help unpracticed borrowers create credit histories and improve their financial wherewithal. He calls the bill “garbage.”

Rather than listen to Howard, the lawmakers embraced the position of the payday lenders themselves — poor Georgians need quick access to cash even at exploitative interest rates. The payday loan bill passed out of the House Banks and Banking Committee and now moves to the full House for a vote.

The saga of the payday loan bill represents everything that’s wrong with the Georgia General Assembly. Payday loans — in which the borrower writes a post-dated check to a lender for the loan amount, plus a fee — have never been legal in Georgia. But because profits were high and penalties were low, the industry ignored the prohibition until 2004 when tougher criminal consequences were imposed. Those penalties finally chased the moneylenders out of the state.

The ban was celebrated by consumer advocates, who say that the triple-digit interest rates of payday loans only buried desperate borrowers deeper in debt.

So, why is the General Assembly trying to undo one of the few bona fide consumer protections it ever passed? Because, rather than represent everyday Georgians, legislators are pushing the agenda of their big-money contributors.

No one has even tried to disguise the politics at play in the payday debate. The sponsor of the bill doesn’t pretend that his constituents in Marietta clamored for this bill; Rep. Steve Tumlin (R-Marietta) admits that industry folks asked him to sponsor the legislation.

Despite the fierce opposition to the bill from all the leading consumer groups in the state, along with many churches and experts like Howard, Tumlin says, “Sometimes you take a job and you just have to finish it.”

“Why,” asks a frustrated Howard, “does he consider it to be his job to do something that harms Georgians?” As a student of Georgia politics, Howard knows the discouraging answer to that question. “Between the dynamics in the hearing room and all the backslapping outside, it was clear the legislators look at the payday lenders as their constituents,” he said.

The rawest political moments in the payday tale came when GOP Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine refused to follow the script and endorse the bill. Oxendine attacked the bill for the cancer that it is, angering Rep. Earl Ehrhart (R-Powder Springs).

Oxendine discovered quickly that the GOP leadership would not tolerate anyone breaking ranks. House leaders moved swiftly to limit damage and Oxendine’s influence. First, the bill was changed so that oversight of the payday industry was yanked out of Oxendine’s control and given over to the Department of Banking and Finance. Then, Ehrhart introduced a bill that would strip Oxendine of his authority to license and oversee finance companies that lend $3,000 or less under the Georgia Industrial Loan Act.

If anyone wonders why less than half of the 4.4 million registered voters in Georgia bothered to vote in the last election, the payday loan bill provides the answer: Unless you are a big money contributor, Georgia legislators are not interested in you.

— Maureen Downey, for the editorial board (mdowney@ajc.com)

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

March 1, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

Actually Jim, we really should be honoring corporate America. They’ve got our best interest in mind…always:

Choosing exploitation on payday lending

Support for payday lending bill exposes lawmakers’ loyalty to special interests that fund their campaigns

Published on: 03/01/07

Consumer guru Clark Howard does not easily part with a dollar, so the fact that he sacrificed two workdays to plead with the General Assembly to oppose the payday lending bill ought to tell you something: It’s a dangerous bill for Georgia consumers.

The Legislature chose to disregard Howard’s warnings that the bill does nothing to help unpracticed borrowers create credit histories and improve their financial wherewithal. He calls the bill “garbage.”

Rather than listen to Howard, the lawmakers embraced the position of the payday lenders themselves — poor Georgians need quick access to cash even at exploitative interest rates. The payday loan bill passed out of the House Banks and Banking Committee and now moves to the full House for a vote.

The saga of the payday loan bill represents everything that’s wrong with the Georgia General Assembly. Payday loans — in which the borrower writes a post-dated check to a lender for the loan amount, plus a fee — have never been legal in Georgia. But because profits were high and penalties were low, the industry ignored the prohibition until 2004 when tougher criminal consequences were imposed. Those penalties finally chased the moneylenders out of the state.

The ban was celebrated by consumer advocates, who say that the triple-digit interest rates of payday loans only buried desperate borrowers deeper in debt.

So, why is the General Assembly trying to undo one of the few bona fide consumer protections it ever passed? Because, rather than represent everyday Georgians, legislators are pushing the agenda of their big-money contributors.

No one has even tried to disguise the politics at play in the payday debate. The sponsor of the bill doesn’t pretend that his constituents in Marietta clamored for this bill; Rep. Steve Tumlin (R-Marietta) admits that industry folks asked him to sponsor the legislation.

Despite the fierce opposition to the bill from all the leading consumer groups in the state, along with many churches and experts like Howard, Tumlin says, “Sometimes you take a job and you just have to finish it.”

“Why,” asks a frustrated Howard, “does he consider it to be his job to do something that harms Georgians?” As a student of Georgia politics, Howard knows the discouraging answer to that question. “Between the dynamics in the hearing room and all the backslapping outside, it was clear the legislators look at the payday lenders as their constituents,” he said.

The rawest political moments in the payday tale came when GOP Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine refused to follow the script and endorse the bill. Oxendine attacked the bill for the cancer that it is, angering Rep. Earl Ehrhart (R-Powder Springs).

Oxendine discovered quickly that the GOP leadership would not tolerate anyone breaking ranks. House leaders moved swiftly to limit damage and Oxendine’s influence. First, the bill was changed so that oversight of the payday industry was yanked out of Oxendine’s control and given over to the Department of Banking and Finance. Then, Ehrhart introduced a bill that would strip Oxendine of his authority to license and oversee finance companies that lend $3,000 or less under the Georgia Industrial Loan Act.

If anyone wonders why less than half of the 4.4 million registered voters in Georgia bothered to vote in the last election, the payday loan bill provides the answer: Unless you are a big money contributor, Georgia legislators are not interested in you.

— Maureen Downey, for the editorial board (mdowney@ajc.com)

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

hey wanky dickweed steve

the point snivelling twotface is that the (mostly southern) demoNcrats of the day were the racists, and they opposed the CRA. THe GOP did NOT oppose it!!

MLK got a shameful pass on his academic cheating!! He did NOT earn his doctorate!! Jim Crow did NOT make hin an academic cheat!!

He was an average speaker - though far better than these micky mouse racial hustler so called black reverends of today. Churchill, Thatcher, Reagan, Cheney, even Col Oliver North and Dr Michael Savage - he ACTUALLY earned his doctorate - are better speakers than MLK!!

got it now dickweed?

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

@ jim’s a leftist arselicker (great rhyme -eh?)

please stop spamming this forum … there’s enough leftist sh!t on here without puking up worthless extra lies from the NY Slimes!

By TFTrealTruth

March 1, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

Using “thinking right” logic I guess we have to consider “Payday” Earl Ehrhart for one of those statues. He is a true example of what it means to “think right” in Georgia.

By JACP GIVES IN TO EMOTION

March 1, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

LIKE ANY LIBERAL WHOSE LAZINESS TO DO IT RIGHT IS POINTED OUT.

OVERREACTION JACP?

YOU’RE A LIBERAL SO AN EMOTIONAL RESPONSE IS EXPECTED AND I AM REWARDED.

THANKS FOR COMING THROUGH.

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

…Cheney, even Col Oliver North and Dr Michael Savage - he ACTUALLY earned his doctorate - are better speakers than MLK!!

tooltime,

You’ve just lost all of your credibility. Congratulations.

I never said that Jim Crow made MLK allegedly plagiarize, I said that Jim Crow would have prevented MLK from getting a “free pass” because he was black. You need to read better.

And I notice that you still haven’t refuted the fact that Strom Thurmond switched to the GOP in 1964 due to the Civil Rights Act.

By TFTrealTruth

March 1, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Yeh buddy TFTT! Ole Newt was a paragon of conservative virtue. Divorced one wife while she lay dying in the hospital of cancer. Didn’t have the christian decency to wait until she died. Using Newt think, the best time to get her was when she was the most helpless. Instead of doing the christian thing and giving her his support in her final days, the Newt way was to capitilize on her condition for his own selfish desire. He is definately a shining example of “compassionate conservatism”.

And has anyone else wondered why Bob Dole is not ever mentioned as a “champion” of republicanism? One of the few that walked the walk and he nary gets a mention from these so called “conservatives”.

By Jack

March 1, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

As if we have time to read the cut n pastes. Give it a break.

By Shar

March 1, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

If we readers could round up the pointy headed blue/red, left/right accusers and insulters and shepherd them off to the corner for a moment or two so that we can get back on topic, I’d like to know what, if any, guidelines exist for the people to be honored with statues on the Capitol grounds. I agree that there should be a moratorium on politicians - they’re busy honoring themselves and each other inside, so it’s redundant to put them outside as well. I’d be inclined to take every statue down and just put one up to the voters of Georgia, so the pols had to walk by every single day they are paid to do our business. Failing that, I’d second the Margaret Mitchell idea, or add Flannery O’Conner and Ray Charles, artists who unified Georgians in admiration of their art and who publicized the state to the country and world.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

wanker steve

ALL of my examples are better public speakers than MLK. Your moronic point @ Thurmond is obtuse to the nth degree!! No need to “deny” historical facts! I note you glibly talk of “alleged plagiarism” … only a lefty liar/pandering apologist would do that!!

Crow would NOT have stopped a free pass for cheating dickweed … because Crow was happily NOT part of the kulture at BU, at least according to the stuff I’ve read on this. See why I call you dickweed … you’ve truly earned it!!

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

C’mon tooltime…

Let’s talk about why Strom Thurmond switched to the GOP in 1964?

Where y’at??

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

wanky id copier

I have NOT defended what Newt did … but he was NOT a serial adulterer, unlike the shameless academic cheat MLK. I note you predicktably utterly ignore the Arkansas rapist’s proven behaviour!!

Dole is a decent enough guy, just not presidential material, and something of a “wet” moderate - it was “his turn” though … and the big eared poisonous Texan dwarf sadly made sure the perjuring pardon selling rapist got re-elected.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

wanker steve

what for? everyone knows his history!!

he’s exactly the same as demoNcrat racists like KKK Byrd from WV, Hollings from SC and the alBOre’s racist pappy from TN … and the alBOre has NEVER condemned his pappy for his racism!!

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

tooltime,

You throw out the barb “dickweed” because you’re an insufferable child.

My point about Thurmond is not obtuse but FACT. You can’t even argue against the fact that Thurmond became a Republican because of the CRA in 1964. Admit it…you know f%ck all about Civil Rights in the 1960s.

Also, Jim Crow came in different forms and affected the ENTIRE COUNTRY…NOT JUST THE SOUTH!!

Who really cares about MLK’s personal life? How does his personal life affect anyone else? The good that he did outweighs any of his personal problems by far. But if you really want to play the role of Dr. Phil and analyze his personal life then have at it.

And your notion of what makes a good public speaker is absolutely rubbish!

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Al Gore Sr. admitted that his biggest mistake was not voting for the 1964 CRA, but he did support the 1965 VRA.

Also, your favorite future GOP Sen. Thurmond tried to get him to sign the Southern Manifesto, which was a declaration strongly opposing integration, and failed. So what exactly does Al Gore Jr have to apologize for on behalf of his father?

Byrd at least apologized and admitted he was wrong and I won’t even defend Hollings.

You still conveniently excuse the fact that Thurmond, as well as many other Southern Democrats, switched to the GOP where they could more easily flex their racist beliefs.

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

I have NOT defended what Newt did … but he was NOT a serial adulterer, unlike the shameless academic cheat MLK. I note you predicktably utterly ignore the Arkansas rapist’s proven behaviour!!

Yeah, you’re right tooltime. Newt’s only been married three times with each of his divorices being the result of his illicit affairs.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Anti-white racism in the UK by the leftist Labour Govt.

see how sick and twisted liberals are all over the world!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?inarticleid=439284&inpageid=1770

By I've been took

March 1, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Jim, not checked your archives but have you ever done a blog on the title pawn lenders? I’m asking because I fell victim to them this past weekend and all i’m finding are lawyers afraid to go up against them because of all the politicians accepting donations(bribes) from them. In my situation, my loan was paid on time (have all reciepts) and they still came & picked up a vehicle worth 13k more than I borrowed. I have great credit, but time was of the essense when I took the loan out for personal reasons and I had never done business with one of these places so I didn’t know they could steal your property. The fat guy at statewide financial in Conyers refused to take our payment in full and told us the truck was his & we couldn’t do anything about it. I thought he was wrong and the law would protect us, but I got fooled again from what I’m finding out about the the pocket lining our policians are getting. Is there a bad a$$ lawyer out there that wants my case? Also, we have the resources to pay for legal fees, but we need something done quick.

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

tooltime is defeated in debate and has to resort to posting rubbish articles by the Brit right-wing rag Daily Mail.

The only problem schmuck is that there is no article shown once you click on the link. However, there is a link to a tender article on the strong love between German incestual siblings that is displayed prominently.

Is there anything you wish to tell us about yourself tooltime?

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

wanker steve

I haven’t “excused” anything tw—atface!! Your intellectual dishonesty is freaking hilarious!!

The alBOre does NOT criticise his racist pappy for his segregationist views. The alboire and the Arkansas rapist said NOTHING IN THE LONG 8 years of their corrupt regime about TN/AK state confederate legacies. Sick willies mentor in AK was the states biggest segregationist!

I could care less @ Thurmond!! Your laughably empty assertions are just typical leftist cyber flatulation. Byrd still uses the n-word on TV when it suits him. Apologising for being a leader in the KK is hardly a credible change of heart!! If D Duke “apologised” would you accept his apology … I wouldn’t … just like I dont KKK BYrd’s!! Your points are pathetic and empty. Thurmond changed his tune - when he “had” to - like BYrd, Wallace and alBOre’s pappy et al all did at various times.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?inarticleid =439284&inpageid=1770

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

Dear I’ve Been Took @ 2:25, if even half of your story is true, you have several meritorious cases. Your case may not be cost effective, however. May I suggest you call Clark Howard?

Dear Conservative Friends, I hate to interrupt this scintillating review of potential honor for the political class, but Chairman Ann has an amusing review of the mindset of the overlords today, http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi Good friend harold, I respectfully suggest you pass it by. Although you have a great sense of humor, I think Chairman Ann says a couple of things that you may find hurtful.

Dear Curious @ 10:19, you said what I think, but better than I said it.

By Jack

March 1, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

I wonder how many “payday” loans are used to pay attorney fees?

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

The town branded too white and too British

Corby (top) is 93.7% white, while Leicester (middle) is 59.6%. The town branded too white and too British

A town is being stripped of scores of public sector jobs because its residents are “too white and British”.

The Prison Service is relocating the posts to a nearby city where there are more ethnic minorities.

The incredible decision, which could lead to an investigation by the Commission for Racial Equality, was disclosed yesterday in a leaked official letter.

It is the first known case of its kind, but MPs warned similar moves could secretly be taking place across the country as civil servants are under enormous pressure from ministers to boost the number of ethnic minorities working in the public sector.

The 80 office jobs are being transferred from the depressed former steel town of Corby, in Northamptonshire, to Leicester.

The Tory General Election candidate for the town, which suffers from deprivation and is in desperate need of jobs, wrote to the Prison Service to demand an explanation.

In an astonishing reply, director of finance Ann Beasley - one of Home Secretary John Reid’s top civil servants - said the town had too many white British residents.

As a result, it does not satisfy the drive to recruit more ethnic minorities.

Under the heading “key influencing factors”, the letter states: “Our ability to attract a more diverse workforce - 93.7 per cent of the population of Corby are white British, compared to 59.6 per cent in Leicester>”

Mrs Beasley also implies Corby’s residents are also too stupid to keep the jobs, which are mostly clerical posts buying equipment for the prison service.

She states that 17 per cent of people living in Leicester are qualified to degree level, compared with only nine per cent in Corby.

Furious opposition politicians were stunned by the reply and accused Labour of effectively being racist against whites.

The Conservative’s diversity spokesman, Dominic Grieve, said: “This is very worrying. The Government should not be penalising people because of the ethnic make-up of where they live. The Government needs to explain just how widespread this policy is.”

Louise Bagshawe, the candidate who received the letter, said: “Labour has controlled Corby council for 23 years and the town is very deprived. We have the lowest wages in Northamptonshire. Now locals are being told that Corby is too British for British jobs.”

She added: “I told Ann Beasley our town already has a thriving Polish immigrant community, but she ignored this. Corby is just beginning to turn the corner, but we need good jobs.

“Gordon Brown loves to bang on about Britishness - if he means it, I call on him to reverse this disgraceful policy and tell Corby people they aren’t too “white British” for Government jobs.”

Kettering’s Tory MP Philip Hollobone, whose constituents are also facing job losses, added: “People will be hugely offended that a decision like this is being made on racial grounds.”

The Home Office last night stood by the letter, saying that attracting a “more diverse workforce” was a “key factor” in moving the jobs.

Discriminating against somebody on the grounds of race is outlawed by the Race Relations Act 2000.

But the Act does allow public bodies to take “positive action” to meet recruitment targets. In this instance, it would be illegal to say that the jobs must be filled by ethnic minority recruits, but moving to an area where they are more likely to apply for the posts is not illegal.

Staff based at the Crown House building in Corby will lose their jobs on March 19 when the building closes for regeneration work.

It had been assumed the Prison Service would find a new office in the town - which has an above average unemployment rate of 5.7 per cent, compared with 5.2 per cent nationwide. But officials, keen to fall in with Labour’s “diversity agenda”, seized the opportunity to move jobs to Leicester, one of the UK’s most ethnically-mixed cities.

Staff have been given the option of transferring, but few - if any - are expected to agree to the lengthy commute.

A spokesman for the Commission for Racial Equality said that if they receive a complaint from any of the workers involved, they will start a full investigation.

By Jack

March 1, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

“typical leftist cyber flatulation”

Your posts are fun to read. :)

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

talking of incest - as you just did wanker steve … how’s your uncle daddy doing?

By steve-o

March 1, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Allaaaaaaaaargh be praised that the GOP voted in the Civil Rights Act because racist demoNcrat scum like the alBOre’s pappy and KKK Byrd and Thurmond and all the rest of then demoNcrat racists were wholly against it!!

tooltime,

You have a hard time admitting that Thurmond opposed civil rights as a REPUBLICAN. Your gibberish about Clinton and Gore and apologies is rather confusing and far-reaching.

Byrd has at least made gestures and reached out to blacks unlike Duke, who merely veiled his blatantly racist beliefs.

Since when did you become a champion of civil rights, tooltime? I can’t believe that you’re even accusing me of “intellectual dishonesty” when your above quote shows that it is YOU that is dishonest.

Admit it…you know f%ck all about Civil Rights and race relations in this country.

I really can’t waste my time debating with a spoiled, insufferable Brit child so I bid you adieu. But in the meantime, do the world and yourself a favor (or favour) and please pick up a history book…and make sure that some right-wing revionist quack didn’t author it.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

March 1, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

So do any of you chumps have anything to say about Maureen’s editorial?

Didn’t think so.

As per usual, all you have are sandlot insults and topic changing remarks.

Fact of the matter is, Georgia’s General Assembly, led by Republicans, is giving the lobbyists, paid by special corporate interests, whatever it is they want.

The people who they’re supposed to be representing’s need don’t seem to fit into that mold.. it’s strictly about what the people who are funding their campaings want.

So per Jim’s topic today, we should honor corporate America, their lobbyists and our elected representatives for creating a legislative governance process based soley on who can afford what.

Bravo!

Losers.

By Jack

March 1, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Losers cut n paste.

By Lynn

March 1, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

jmblaw, shockingly my story is in fact all true. I contacted Clark Howard and one of the volunteers said I should obtain a lawyer. One of the lawyers I contacted even said he had three calls on the same business before 9:30 am but did not handle this type of case. From what I understand the title company is filing bancruptcy & just grabbing everyones property for quick cash. As I stated above, I’ve not found a lawyer with enough confidence to handle it so far. I did retain one attorney to send them a letter requesting they return the truck due to breach of contract but we’re afraid they will sell it before then. Any suggestions? Do you think it would work to report it stolen by them? Most police departments are afraid to mess with them too.

By We need a sting

March 1, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Jim’s a cherry picker, the editorial is right on. Maybe the Justice Department will do a Tennessee Waltz-type sting in Georgia and rein these jackleg thugs in.

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Dear Jack @ 3:03 and many others earlier, you are good. You are as funny as our friend TFTT, but as efficient in language as Odgen Nash. My highest compliments.

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Dear Lynn @ 3:08, your best bet may be if the firm files bankruptcy. There your argument of bad faith - deals conducted while insolvent and in anticipation of bankruptcy - would get a fair hearing. Our bankrtuptcy judges are pretty decent here in Atlanta.

Don’t file a “stolen” vehicle report - that is close enough to be a “bad faith” claim that the police may charge you with filing a false report (Dekalb County is notorious for so-charging victims.)

You may want to file a small claims case yourself - does not require a lawyer. Allege fraud, conversion, and breach of contract. List the fair market value of the car as your demand for damages.

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Dear Lynn, two more things you need to know. (1) Damages in small claims are limited to $15,000. If your car was worth more, you ought to hire an attorney. (2) You have to file a suit in the county where you took out the loan.

By JK

March 1, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Let me repeat this from 2:52, because it’s true: “Fact of the matter is, Georgia’s General Assembly, led by Republicans, is giving the lobbyists, paid by special corporate interests, whatever it is they want.”

Ask not whom your state legislator represents; it isn’t YOU! It’s Democracy — Republican style. You swallow the line about personal responsibility, smaller government, and family values, and they’ll introduce legislation to benefit their big contributors.

By Clay

March 1, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Lynn,

Call the cops!!!

By Lynn

March 1, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Small claims was our next step after the 10 day period but from what I’ve read all over the web, people like me are just screwed because of the political influence these guys have backing them. If they think I’ll let it go though, they’re in for another shock. I’ll gladly spend 5k or more now to cost them 10k.

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

Dear JK @ 3:27, your emotional side is dominating your logical side today. So long as democrats are pushing global warming, republicans are mere pikers, cannot possibly steal enough to compare.

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Dear Lynn @ 3:32, I wish to disabuse you of the popular mystique involving politics and justice. In my times in courts, I remember only one case where I thought the judge less than ethical, and that was in another state. Quite the opposite, most judges are so arrogant the political types merely agitate them. (That is not necessarily true at the appellate level, but that is not what you fear.) If the court thinks you were robbed, you will win; if the court thinks you are merely a whiner, you will lose.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

March 1, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

JK,

And to put a little finer point on it….

I have absolutely no confidence whatsoever that Democrats would do anything differently. They’d just feel worse about it.

Bunch of frigging crooks. All of them. Regardless of race, creed or party affiliation.

Can’t buy a six pack on Sunday, but I can shore carry a concealed weapon in my car.

I don’t drive, but I’ll be paying that sales tax for road improvements right alongside of that dummy that commutes from Dacula every day.

Idiots.

By JohnD

March 1, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Well now,

For Kelly, Brian Curtis, pope, Steve-o, Debbie and Tyra and anyone I might have missed.

The followers of Islam have waged war on all who are not followers since the inception of the “religion”. The charge of being a geo-political movement as opposed to a religion comes from former Muslims. You lefties just do not know the history or pay attention to the words spewing from the leaders of Islam today.

Osama Bin laden led the attack on the trade towers, although this darling of the left did not board a plane himself, in 2001. But that was the second attempt by an Islamic leader on the towers.

Iraq has supported terrorism and the attempt to give moderate Muslims an opportunity to govern in Iraq is critical to peace in the region.

The attack by Islam on the Marine barracks in Lebanon has often been cited as the start of this war. Remember the USS Cole? Remember the attacks on our embassies? All carried out by the followers of Islam.

Do you remember the dancing in the streets by thousands of followers of the “religion of peace” after the attacks?

There are over 1,400 Wahabi Muslim Mosques in the United States. This is considered among the most violent and anti-American of the various sects in Islam. Do you think they are here because they love the United States?

Have any of you pillars of intellect ever read of the Islamic plan to over run our country by sheer numbers? The reported plan also holds as one of the tenets a belief that the Muslim men should divorce, or murder if necessary, their wives once the women are past the child bearing age. This so the men can have another wife and more children.

Do any of you care that the birth rate in this country has been falling since approximately 1970 and is now well below the replacement birth rate required to maintain our society? Do you care that the birth rate among Muslims is almost double that of non-Muslim Americans? Do any of you even understand what these numbers mean? Perhaps when none of you are able to visit the museums, art galleries and ancient churches of Western Europe you will recognize the threat posed by the “religion of peace”.

When the next leader of Islam stands before a cheering throng and pronounces death to all of Western civilization would you please pay attention.

I have one more suggestion. The constant name-calling, predominately by the left on blogs, is tedious and boring. If you have facts to support your beliefs, state them – without all the profanity.

By Lynn

March 1, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Clay, I did, they said it was a civil matter, not criminal (go figure). JMBLAW, thanks, that gives me a little more hope than i’ve had so far. The excact value was 15k so small claims will work. I just hope our small town judges work the same way as the big city guys.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

March 1, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

Jbmlaw,

Why don’t you offer up your side of Maureen’s editorial?

Some words of wisdom for Rep. Steve Tumlin perhaps.

Maybe we should put up a bronze statue of Rep Tumlin for his efforts in securing extra financing for his campaign chest by horing himself out like that…ensuring that he’ll be around for sessions to come, to continute to grant the wishes of those who can afford to pay for them.

What’s your opinion on that? Is that worthy of Ogden Nash?

Or John Nash? Is he incentivized to be corrupt because if he doesn’t someone else will?

That’s what I think. The system is broke. Admit it.

Individuals aren’t represented. Unless of course you’re a millionaire and can afford to lobby Rep Tumlin on your own, or hire someone else to do it.

Do you think he’d introduce some legislation that I’ve written up…just because I asked him to?

What do you think about that?

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Yet another dismal example of the endless bollocks by black hippety hop thugs. The pathetically inferior GA skools glibly ignore the growing ominous terrorist threat covertly spreding amongst blacks. How’s this for a glorious conclusion to the racial spoils black history month!nm/usamuslimsblacksdc_3" title="" />

By Jack

March 1, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

For all politicians once elected their primary job is to get re-elected. Next is to line their pockets. next is to line their friends and relative’s pockets. The wants of the people come 4th or 5th on their list.

How do you tell a politician is lying?

His lips are moving.

By Van

March 1, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

JohnD,

To bad we can send those lefties to negotiate. Can you see Brian Curtis negotiating with someone that will not compromise or change their stance?

UBL, “Death to America”

BC, “Can we talk about this?”

UBL, “No, death to America”

BC, “Can we set a time table and delay it for 30 years?”

UBL, “No, death to America”

BC, “But I do not want to die”

UBL, “Convert to the true religion or die. Death to America”

Well, you get the drift.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Yet another dismal example of the endless bollocks by black hippety hop thugs. The pathetically inferior GA skools glibly ignore the growing ominous terrorist threat covertly spreding amongst blacks. How’s this for a glorious conclusion to the racial spoils black history month!

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Dear JaCP @ 4:01, on the payday lending stuff you will not find my view satisfying - I fear you will think it a mere dodge. Nevertheless, I don’t think anything ought to be legislated unless the penalty for violation is execution. So long as payday lenders are honest in their disclosures, and disclosures are sufficient to allow an intelligent decision, I think it is appropriate to separate the fools from their money. (Ok, maybe that’s a bit harsher than I really think - but to me this is an ethical issue, not one of criminality.)

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

March 1, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

John D,

Iraq has supported terrorism

Care to elaborate on that with some factual material?

Do you mean Al Quaeda? The Saddam/Bin Laden link?

Or do you mean the average 15 y/o boy in the street with an AK47 who’s just mad because his dad, brother and sister were killed during this conflict? Is he a terrorist?

And why shouldn’t they be mad? GW said, “bring it on”. Shouldn’t they?

As far as I can tell, that’s what they’re doing…they’re “bringing it on.”

Was taunting them a good diplomatic move? Was firing all the Baathists from government really the right thing to do? Was removing all the career Iraqi bureaucrats from the economic development councils post “mission accomplished” reall the right thing to do?

Is this all going according to Bush, Rummy, Cheney and Wolfie’s plan?

Oh learned one (is that name calling?), is nation building really our responsiblity? Is America really the judge, jury and executioner (stole that from Lee Hamilton, not plagarism) for the world?

Are the Muslims gonna take over Kroger and Publix?

Are we the World Police now?

Where’s Britain? Where’s the Aussies? Canada? Italy? Russia? Japan?

Where’d everyone go?

Why are we all alone in this?

How did we go from having the entire world behind us to having the entire world think we’re a bunch of chumps?

How’d that happen?

Do tell.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

March 1, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Jbmlaw,

So up until your market based libertarian system is implemented, we should just go limp and let corporate America rig the game in their favor? They should just be able to continute to form shady interest groups with happy names (Americans for Freedom), write legislation and buy politicians on both sides?

How is it over there on the sidelines?

By JohnD

March 1, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Van,

Interestingly I have not seen one of the Delusional Left volunteer to go to Afghanistan to search out Osama. Plenty of talk about leaving Iraq and going after OBL but no volunteers.

I know! We send them to Saudi Arabia to ask the “peaceful” Saudis why they keep sponsoring more of their Wahabi friends in the US?

Better yet, a few thousand of the left could go to Tehran and strike a deal with Eichmadinadolt to stop arming terrorists in Iraq and discontinue Iran’s nuclear plans. Of course the left would have to deny the holocaust and be willing to allow the murder of all the Israelis but so what? At least the Left would have peace on their return flight to their Never Never Land existence - assuming the peace loving Persians did not blow them out of the sky.

By Amber

March 1, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

jmblaw,

Issues of criminality and ethics aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive. One (criminality) is derived from the other (ethics).

JohnD,

You’re a hypocrite. You want facts? You called somebody a “blind leftist” this morning and, sarcastically, “pillars of intellect” this afternoon — while simultaneously blaming the left for name calling. If you want to resort to sarcasm and name calling, have at it. But you make an a$$ out of yourself when you whine about others doing the same.

By JohnD Dropped His Popsicle

March 1, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

JohnD at 3:49 “The constant name-calling, predominately by the left on blogs, is tedious and boring.”

JohnD at 4:44 “Delusional Left” and “…the Left would have peace on their return flight to their Never Never Land existence”

Whaaaaaaaaaa!!!

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Dear JaCP @ 4:38, yes, that is pretty much correct. Until our citizens learn to just say “no,” the nanny-state will continue to grow, and that is not in the best interest of anyone. Not every bad act is, or should be, criminal.

By Dusty

March 1, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Jim’s a Cherry Picker,

Maureen Downey may have something here. But….to paraphrase the last line of this ajc.com editor’s article…..

Unless you are a big money contributor to the Democratic Party, Maureen Downey/AJC is not interested in giving a fair appraisal. Therefore, I can only take her “truths” with a grain of salt.

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Dear Amber @ 4:45, I disagree in part. In a good world, criminal laws would be a small subset of the universe of unethical acts. In fact, they are venn diagrams. Many criminal acts are not truly unethical, but mere breach of a legislated protocol. This debasement of the law is a creature of the 20th century, and I have almost concluded that it is time to throw out the baby with the bath water.

By Van

March 1, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Dusty!

How have you been sugarplum?

By jbmlaw

March 1, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

Dear JaCP @ 4:38, a minor correction to my 4:50 post: the nanny-state will continue to grow, and that is not in the best interest of anyone, other than officers of the court.

By time for the truth

March 1, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

I see the anal obsessive stalker is back playing in its envious leftist cut and run sandpit. Doubtless it will now again be mistaken for a giant holey brown turd and shovelled away with the rest of the filthy YELLOW streaked sand into some kind of eco whacko NY Slimes compost heap where it can swap steamy San Fran Sicko bath house stories with Wanker ‘Strom’s my hero’ Steve!!

By JohnD

March 1, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Save a little somethin’ for me. Don’t let that fat a** Van have it all.

By jm

March 1, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw@2:36 - Interesting article by Miss Coulter delivered in the shrill tone she is noted for. I prefer the term climate change myself. Not sure how much (if any effect) man is having but suspect it is some. Of course, when the planet is fed up with humans, it will devise a way to kill us off (like it has with 99+% of the species that have lived on this planet) and let some other species spend time at the top of the food chain.

By JohnD

March 1, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Jim’s a …,

There is plenty of factual material, ever heard of Google?

Read the quotes from your Left Leaders. Both Clintons, Kerry, Kennedy, Madeline Albright, virtually the entire Clinton Cabinet, even Howard Dean, from the 1990’s. All, at one time or another, called for the ouster of Saddam, through military force if necessary.

The terrorists in Iraq are hardly 15y/o Iraqis. More likely Iranian or Al Qaeda.

We should not be nation builders but we must protect our interests and those of our allies where encessary. We have mutual agression treaties with most of the free world. We agree to protect them if threatened.

Britain has troops in Iraq, as does Australia. Canada, Japan, Italy and Russia? Are you serious? Japan has no army to send. Russia would not cooperate because they were one of the countries making billions of dollars from the oil for food scam, ditto France and Germany. Did you forget Switzerland? Or were you aware the Swiss also do not have an army to send?

As for the asinine comment about Kroger and Publix - yes, their plan is to take over this country and if Kroger and Publix are still here they will be taken.

We have a responsibility, as the strongest nation on earth, to protect those who are unable to protect themselves. Just as we must care for our poor, infirm and elderly in this country, we must also face our responsibility to the rest of mankind. In case you have not noticed we have been the World Police since the end of WWII.

In the next decade or so, when France and the Netherlands are under Sharia Law, with several other Western European nations close behind, who will the chumps be then? And where are your facts on the feelings of the rest of the world? New york Times polls no doubt.

There has been no period in our history when the “rest of the world” was behind us. For over 1,400 years now the world of Islam has been attacking the world and attacking the US since our birth.

We have been at odds with any nation ruled by the likes of Hiler, Stalin and the other brutal dictators in history. People like Saddam and Eichmadinadolt require a frightened, passive, relenting populace to remain in power.

The United States has firmly stood in oppostion to such dictators for over 225 years. That firm stance has eroded only because of the unquenchable thirst for power by the Left as voiced by parts of the Democrat party. The Left was out of power and their only means to return was a constant carping from the Democrats in Congress and the Liberal Left in the print and electronic media.

To facillitate the anti-war position the Left has had to deny that a threat exists, that Islam is anything other than a peace loving people and that the elements of Islam who wish us dead are in the minority. The simple facts and the words of Islam refute this position of the Left.

The real “Inconvenient Truth” is that the Left would rather risk the loss of our country than remain out of power.

By Shar

March 1, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

Jim, A Modest Proposal: Do you suppose the AJC would sanction a spin off for Thinking Right in which you could toss a little raw meat, a few morsels sure to incite yet another red/blue slashathon, and let the mad dogs on this blog have at each other? It would be so refreshing to read thoughtful comments that are on the daily TR topic without having to skip over the insulting rants that must be so important to those who post them but which are so very tiresome to the rest of us. Sort of like being at a party when the host and hostess start slightingly referring to each other’s performance in bed. You’re trapped, the discussion is personally emotive but utterly inappropriate and exclusionary, and you can’t possibly add anything to calm the roiling waters. You either run away or wait it out. Maybe if these folks could insult each other privately the rest of us could have intelligent discourse and an exchange of ideas?

By JohnD

March 1, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

Portions of the Left, just as portions of the Right, are delusional. Separating the delusional from the rest is not name-calling, just the way to leave you and the rest of the rational, middle-of-the-road lefties out of the discussion.

Amber, did you also make the remark to Dusty and try to attribute those words of high intelect to me? I am sure Dusty knows better.

Continued profane, factless posts by the Delusional Left. Not at all surprising.

By Dusty

March 1, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

Dear Wanker @ 4:56 & 5:07,

I am doing just fine, thank you. I would invite you over but I am all out of anti-freeze. Drinks another day maybe??

By Love Shack

March 1, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

Dusty, Van, Realist and JohnD,

I hear there’s a nice piece of land for sale in Waco, Texas. Why don’t you right-wing freaks take your gun collections and shack up there for a while. We’ll let you know when the Wahabis are coming, or the gays, or the madrasah-educated Obama family or whoever it is you hate that week and want to use as an excuse to start WWIII.

By JohnD

March 1, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

Jim’s a…,

It is important to not buy any hummus or pita from Kroger and Publix because they will contain the mind control serum of the Wahhbists. Osama bin Laden launched a satellite into space at Cape Canaveral in 1993 in acquiescence with the Leftist Clinton administration in order to take over our country.

There will be a signal transmitted from the satellite to all Leftist media outlets and the Holloween elite which will sound like the Muslim call to prayer. At this signal, Leftists and Muslims will rise up and initiate a coup in Washington and take the reins of the government. At this point, armed black thug militias will go door to door and take the first born daughter from every white household to supply the harem of the American caliph.

The Caliphate States of America will then invade other countries militarily as well as through satellite mind control signals made possible by coerced intake of the Wahhabist mind control serum in hummus and pita.

I have been working on an antidote to the serum for some time now and believe that I have found a successful formula consisting of strands of Ann Coulter’s pubic hair, spittle from George W. Bush, and 0.3 cc of Milwaukee’s Best Light. Also, I have built a survivalist bunker in my backyard stockpiled with weapons and food rations that will last a decade in order to maintain resistance against the occupational regime of the Caliphate States of America. My neighbors and I have thus formed a militia and call ourselves The Wolverines in homage to the great American epic Red Dawn.

Yes you may mock me, but just remember who will have the last laugh once you’re prostrate, bending over, and chanting to Allah under the saber of a radical Wahhabist.

By Van

March 1, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I love you and I want you to know how much I think about you everyday.

By Van

March 1, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

Thanks JohnD!

I just called the wife, and she agreed that for the safety of our country, no more hummus/pita from Kroger and Publix. What about Whole Foods? Are they safe?

Wait a second. Whole Foods … vegetables … organic … LEFTISTS.

WOLVERIIIINES!!!

(Can I be Patrick Swayze?)

By JohnD

March 2, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

Not me at 5:42 but the inane prattle of the left on this blog is obvious. You lefties who are here all day should really try to find a job or stop stealing the time from your current employer.

If you are unable to see the changes in Europe as a result of the Muslim invasion then I doubt you are able to see the begininngs of the same here in the United States.

You should also read about the Wahabi Muslims and their history.

Religion of peace indeed. You lefties are so brain-washed and uniformed as to be laughable.

By sharkeyextreme

March 2, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

JohnD, what we are dealing with here is a complete temper tantrum by a leftist who isn’t interested in debating with a conservative. More to the fact, this liberal clown is probably trying to discredit conservative regulars by lifting their alias and posting idiotic comments. It wouldn’t be the first time. I’ve seen these bozos on the left do it on Slate and other blogs, especially on conservative blogs. Aren’t they clever little creatures?

By JohnD

March 2, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

Sharkey,

The left here does not debate at all. They throw their fits, resort to profanity and name-calling (usually together with the profanity) and ignore the issues. The obvious reason for their conduct is the lack of facts and their willingness to believe what the NYTimes, network TV and their liberal leaders write and say without any research of their own.

By V for Vendetta

March 2, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

LOL, sounds like both sides of the aisle to me John.

And let’s be clear about something…

While extremism in Islam has obvoiusly proven to be harmful, extremism in any form has the possibility to harm. Religion IS extremism and the root of much of the world’s evil.