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Barack Obama and race
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
During one of last week’s discussions about the Presidential candidates, the conversation turned to Barack Obama. the first-term U.S. Senator from Illinois, whose candidacy causes most of the camp-with-the-Democrats media to gush with the adoration of American Idol groupies. If we don’t very promptly annoint him President, it’s a sign of America’s lingering racism. On the Right, meanwhile, he’s seen as a defintion-lacking celebrity. Commentator Ann Coulter, who can turn a phrase, refers to him as “Jonathan Livingston Obama” and opined that “his speeches are a run-on string of embarrassing, sophomoric Hallmark bromides.”
In the discussion here, a contributor who posts as rarringt, offered insightful commentary on Obama and race. Here’s the relevant part of rarringt’s post:
“As an African-American, I don’t sense a whole lot of concern in our community about Obama being “black enough.” As you well know, it’s not a function of melanin content. “Blackness,” for lack of a better word, is about being able to relate to various common threads in our culture, having an understanding of our accomplishments and challenges, and exemplifying a willingness to work to leave things better than the way we found them.
“It’s not meant to be some obtuse, mysterious thing. Obama, and the vast majority of other people of color, fit well into that description, thus taking the question (as far as we are concerned) off the table.
“Besides, as a practical matter Obama’s not a stupid man, and won’t fall into that same “where do his real priorities lie” trap WASPs tried to set for a Catholic JFK.
“The real question, of course, is how white America feels about his ethnicity, and to what extent that will affect the choices of moderate America. I think they’ll like what they see. The dems have a very strong field this election, and there’s a sense of, given current affairs, this election is the most critical in the last 3 or 4 presidential cycles.”
Obama has been careful not to make his success or failure a referendum on race in America and in politics. Is it?




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Comments
By Brian Curtis
February 28, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
Wooten, if you want to make a serious argument you have to get past quoting “thoughtful commentary” from Ann Coulter.
Oddly, the biggest conservative anti-Obama spin lately is that “he may not automatically own the black vote, in which case he’s doomed.” Obviously, the reasoning goes like this:
Obama’s black; therefore, no white people would vote for him due to his race (after all, white people are all as racist as me!). So if he can’t get overwhelming race-based support from “his own people,” where will he get votes from?
And yet they claim that “racism” is solely in the minds of liberals? Hee hee! Funny stuff.
By TFTrealTruth
February 28, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this
Barack Obama and race By Jim Wooten | Wednesday, February 28, 2007, 07:56 AM
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Commentator Ann Coulter, who can turn a phrase, refers to him as “Jonathan Livingston Obama” and opined that “his speeches are a run-on string of embarrassing, sophomoric Hallmark bromides.”
PUHLEEEZE JIM! Ann Coulter? Just what would you call HER commentaries?
By TFTrealTruth
February 28, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this
One thing is certain. No matter who the next president is he won’t come from the right wing of the republican party. The right wing nutcases are finally where they belong. On the outside looking in.
By Van
February 28, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this
Hmmm, “As you well know, it’s not a function of melanin content. “Blackness,” for lack of a better word, is about being able to relate to various common threads in our culture, having an understanding of our accomplishments and challenges, and exemplifying a willingness to work to leave things better than the way we found them.”
So, for this ignorant white guy, it isn’t about skin color or racial background, but how well you toe the party line. If I read “rarringt” correctly that is.
I guess Condi Rice is not black enough, I guess Tiger Woods isn’t black enough and I am starting to wonder about Oprah.
By Peyton Walters
February 28, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this
Conclusive evidence the AJC continues to offer less and less of value: The Matt Schaub offered $2 million is the most viewed story for the third day in a row.
Jim after they put you out to pasture next month there may not be any new daily content in/on this daily newspaper/Web site.
Ralph McGill must be weeping.
By Curious Observer
February 28, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
Forget about Obama. In the end, he will be run over by the Clinton train, unable to raise the huge sums required for a serious campaign and unable to garner the lion’s share of the black vote. The Democrats will choose the only possible path to losing the 2008 presidential election. Hillary is unelectable, given her negatives,and any Republican nominee will beat her.
The Democratic primary is only marginally about race. Rather, it is about capturing the far left wing of the party—the people who supported Howard Dean. Hillary is unethical enough to promise that wing more, and the result will be that moderates will choose the ABH approach—anybody but Hillary. The Republican nominee will be the winner by default, for that nominee will look downright statesman-like in comparison.
By jbmlaw
February 28, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. As a fan of both Chairman Ann and our friend rarringt, I suggest their essays are not mutually exclusive. Chairman Ann’s essay on Osama Obama was one of her funniest in the past few months, merely quoting sections of his declaration speech (admittedly out of context, although that was not particularly relevant given the context) and adding her own spicy commentary. Our friend rarringt is correct in his analysis of Obama – Obama is the Tiger Woods of the democrats. His racial components are incidental to his being, and I think are probably a small positive for him in the primaries – not enough to make any real difference. In contrast, my favorite potential candidate – Condi Rice – would find her race a significant plus for her in the republican primaries and in the general election.
I am not a fan of Obama – he is as socialist as any campaigning, so he will not get my vote under any circumstances. All republican candidates are better potential presidents. Somebody will surely raise the issue of “experience” – other than the usefulness of experience in avoiding campaign gaffes, I think experience is grossly oversold. Obama’s total lack of experience is a positive for him, from my view.
Special for my friend JK: I left early yesterday (needlessly, it turns out) for a sudden health issue, and the stock market collapsed. I would suggest there is surely cause and effect there, although the WSJ analysis does not mention market fears for my health: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009722
By Janine
February 28, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
An African American, a woman, a Jew , whether Democrat, Republican or “other” will never be elected president of the U.S. in 2008. THe only way the Dems will lose the 2008 election is if they nominate one of the above. If they choose a WASP, it doesn’t much matter who… as long as it’s NOT one of the above , they will coast to victory.
By Van
February 28, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw,
You may have hit upon why the lefties love Obama, he is a true born again socialist.
By CJ
February 28, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this
Wooten wrote, “Obama has been careful not to make his success or failure a referendum on race in America and in politics. Is it?”
I don’t know. I do know that the Southern Strategy is alive and well within the Republican Party. This Party takes every opportunity to divide on religion, ethnicity, race, sexual orientation or any other subculture they hate and want others to hate as well. Fox News’ decision to run with the phony madrasah story about Obama is one example. The Bush camp’s whisper campaign in the 2000 South Carolina primaries intended to spread the rumor that John McCain fathered an illegitimate “dark” child is another. Of course, now Young Republicans at college campuses around the country are trying to recruit members by playing a modified version of hide-and-seek called “Find the Illegal Alien”. No – I’m afraid that if Republicans find any hint of “blackness” in Senator Obama’s background, they’ll play it for all it’s worth. They’re already looking at the church he attended in Illinois and trying to attribute statements made by ministers there to him.
As for swing voters, I hope that issues such as global warming, our national debt, rising poverty rates, rising health care costs, energy independence, terrorism, rising crime rates, nuclear proliferation, inequities in our tax code, ethics in government, inequities in our trade agreements and our crumbling infrastructure take precedent over a candidate’s race. Keeping my fingers crossed.
By Jack
February 28, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
True words Janine. They would be wise to put “stud” Edwards in.
By Dusty
February 28, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Janine,
Don’t place your bets on a Democratic WASP coast to victory in 2008. If you think most Americans are happy with the way Dems are “running down” this war, you will have a great awakening. They may want their sons and daughter home but not in retreat. That is the only avenue offered by Democrats. Resolutions and funds withdrawal are just a way to save face, but the public is not fooled. Surreptitious surrender is still surrender.
By Redneck Convert
February 28, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
When I got back to the warehouse yesterday the boss was walking around crying and groaning about how much he lost in the stock market. I told him he shouldn’t gamble. He said buying stocks wasn’t gambling, it was investing in companys. That don’t make much sense. He don’t know how a company is going to do no more than I know what card is going to turn up in my poker hand. Gambling is gambling but we kind of wink at some of it and call it something else.
I see the people in the statehouse is trying to force little girls to have a shot to keep them from getting cancer of the Thing. I would rather a girl of mine died of cancer than shame me by letting some boy brag about having his way with her. Besides, she would deserve it for doing that.
I don’t care about this Obama guy. He’s one of Those People and a librul of course. Anyway, I want both partys to run a good conservative white man like respeckable people would do. Somebody that would get rid of the civil rights laws and welfare and stuff like that. We could get our two house seats back from Those People. I don’t want no mormon with two or three wifes or a uppity woman or one of Those People. Its unAmerican.
By Dennis
February 28, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
As for Barack Obama, his race doesn’t matter. What matters is can he deliver the goods. But he does need a few years of political Washington seasoning before reaching, or acheiving, the Oval Office.
Talk/write about “sophomoric Hallmark bromides”, to quote Ann Coulter begs the question, is Jim Wooten reaching down as low as he can get, or reaching up as high as he can get?
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By Brian Curtis
February 28, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
Dusty: “Surrender” to who? Surely not to terrorism, because the terrorist threat to the U.S. is not IN Iraq.
Most Americans want us out of Iraq because they recognize we’re not fighting a legitimate threat to our country there. And isn’t that what our armed forces are supposed to be used for?
By Dusty
February 28, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this
Redneck Convert,
You are just about as extinct as the dinosauer. Why don’t you leave that cute ignorant Southern bit to the crazy book writers and the grassroots gaga comedians. In other words, your phony bit is getting stale.
‘Tis true that this blog could use a little light and laughter so to speak. Poor old CJ talking about the nonsensical Southern Strategy and other andeluvian arguments is pathetic. But playing the undercover hick is worse. Straighten up, fellow. This Southerner is tired of your facetious facade. Mardi Gras is over.
By sharkeyextreme
February 28, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
Contrary to popular left-wing belief, I don’t believe most conservatives look at race in the bigger picture of things, let alone the first viewpoint of sizing someone up.
When I see Condi Rice, I see the Secretary of State. When I see Tiger Woods, I see a great golfer. When I see Oprah, I see the epitome of American success. When I see Dave Chappelle reruns, I see a brilliant comedian.
It isn’t until someone reminds me that I actually realize that these people are actual bonafide Black people. Then I think, “oh yeah”. When I read the AJC written by a bunch of lefties minus Wooten, I am constantly reminded that race divides us all.
It’s always Black this and White that and Hispanic or Asian the other. Why does everyone in the world of the left have to be categorized into a class or group? Whatever happened to the individual?
When I see Barack Obama, I see a flash in the pan with no background whatsoever and a person who doesn’t want to show us what his background is. We all know what he stands for, and that’s socialist liberal ideas. Not to go unmentioned, every now and then I am reminded by the liberal media complex that he’s Black..well, half Black in truth, like Tiger. Dave Chappelle racial draft episode anyone?
On a lighter note, it is quite humorous watching the left on this blog froth at the mouth when they see an Ann Coulter quote. Of course, these same fine group of people drop to their knees when Michael Moore speaks.
Redneck [leftie] Hack -
You fool nobody but yourself in your little fake Con tyrade.
By Matthew
February 28, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
Anybody been reading the recent Rolling Stone article about the religious fundies extreme displeasure over their inability to control the GOP, they are beginning to consider their own party. hmmm. there is a good thought. LOL
Many blacks I have discussed Obama with know he is not a product of the American Black Experience(slavery, Jim Crow, Civil Rights Movement), so he would have to have appealing Sustance to get their vote. Skin color alone won’t do it.
By Jack
February 28, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
“I would rather a girl of mine died of cancer than shame me by letting some boy brag about having his way with her.”
You must not have children. Thank God.
Yeah BC. After we run and are attacked on our soil, you will be the first to blame Bush.
By Jim's a Cherry Picker
February 28, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
I hope that some of you experts out there have been watching this:
News War
Funny how you never really see anything of substance like this on Fox…it’s hard too dig too deep when you’re trying to shine up the awful truth.
By @@
February 28, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
Jim, For me it’s not so much the individuals running on the Democratic ticket, as it is the way the party frames them.
The first Woman President.
The first Black President.
The first Hispanic President.
And as far as rarringt’s question:
“The real question, of course, is how white America feels about his ethnicity, and to what extent that will affect the choices of moderate America. I think they’ll like what they see.”
rarringt:
In the beginning I was as enamored with Obama’s charm as the next guy. But too often in politics, “charm” is a cover for the “unknown”.
As to his ethnicity? Not a factor for me, nor should it be for anyone else.
Experience is a key issue. Especially now!!!!
The only candidate the Democrats have that is worth his salt is Richardson. He has experience in foreign policy, but yet the polls show him 4th?
On the Republican side we have a couple of candidates slightly left on social issues but I’ll concede in the interest of national security.
Our conservative “eggheads” don’t always jump in one basket. We’re too smart for that.
By Dusty
February 28, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
Poor ol’ Brian Curtis,
You have “retreated” and surrendered so many times already I guess you don’t realize that we are still at war.
But you can stop running now. Our troops are fighting terrorists in Iraq, the same enemies who would love to kill you here. Maybe you should show a little support for our military. Yes??
By Derrick
February 28, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Sharkey,
Ann Coulter is lying fool whose only audience is other fools with no whit. I’m not the biggest fan of Micheal Moore but he unlike Coulter doesn’t talk about killing his political opponents and lying every time he opens his mouth. The simple fact that you rush to defend someone who is even detested by far-right conservatives like the National Review shows how silly your comment was.
By Brian Curtis
February 28, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Jack: Great comeback! Attacking me for what YOU assume I’ll do in the future. Very powerful, very compelling.
Dusty: So you’re saying that Iraq does somehow pose a threat to the U.S.? How so?
I haven’t surrendered or retreated from fighting terrorists threats even once… like most Democrats and liberals, I’m wondering when we’re gonna START doing that. Because Iraq sure isn’t it.
By Brian Curtis
February 28, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
Sharkey: Congratulations! You don’t see color… I guess you’re another Stephen Colbert.
We’re not frothing at Ann Coulter—we’re laughing at her. And anyone who quotes her, because they can’t come up with something sane and credible instead.
By DebbieDoRight
February 28, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
So, for this ignorant white guy, it isn’t about skin color or racial background, but how well you toe the party line. If I read “rarringt” correctly that is. I guess Condi Rice is not black enough, I guess Tiger Woods isn’t black enough and I am starting to wonder about Oprah.
My God you’re right!!! You ARE an ignorant white guy!!!
By sharkeyextreme
February 28, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
Derrick,
You can keep your opinions on Ann Coulter to yourself. She lies is all you lefties can come back with. Your sheer hatred of her is blatant, not that how you or anyone else feels about her is a concern of mine.
Now before you go jumping to conclusions Derrick, I haven’t read any of her books and rarely read any of her columns. I do, however, like how she grabs you lefties by the shorthairs.
Now Derrick, if your only comment on my entire post is about my brief mention of Ann Coulter, kindly go unbunch your boxers. There are bigger issues out there.
By jm
February 28, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this
Van@8:24 - Sad thing is that there are still parts of the country where Condi Rice, Barack Obama, Tiger Woods and even Oprah would be pulled over just for the color of their skin.
jbmlaw@8:42 - I would have thought Jeb Bush (the competent son of George and Barbara) would have been your choice.
By DebbieDoRight
February 28, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
Forget about Obama. In the end, he will be run over by the Clinton train, unable to raise the huge sums required for a serious campaign and unable to garner the lion’s share of the black vote.
And you know this HOW? Because you are so “up” on how blacks vote? From now on I’m going to call you Mr. Delusional; obviously you’ve been reading your own crap, (along with Jim’s) for WAY too long.
By jbmlaw As a fan of both Chairman Ann and our friend rarringt, I suggest their essays are not mutually exclusive. Chairman Ann’s essay on Osama Obama
You have, not suprisingly, just sunk to the depths of your average infantile, southern, good ole boy with the third grade education, spitting tobacco and doing his sister. Don’t forge that rebel yell.
By Jeanine THe only way the Dems will lose the 2008 election is if they nominate one of the above. If they choose a WASP, it doesn’t much matter who… as long as it’s NOT one of the above , they will coast to victory.
Sad, but true. Even ENGLAND got over it’s old white male syndrome when they voted in Thatcher and Blair — America probably never will.
By Southern Democrat
February 28, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
My friend Jbmlaw makes the point that experience should not be a determining factor in the ‘08 election and I could not agree more. It makes me chuckle when my conservative friends decry Obama’s lack of experience while extolling the virtues of Dr. Rice, a lifelong academic and bureaucrat who has never held elected office. Experience is in the eye of the beholder and, given the current state of politics, can operate as a negative in my book.
Terrifying to me that the Taliban was able to strike as close as they did to our V.P. Maybe now the Prince of the Neo-Cons can be convinced to send some more troops to Afghanistan and Pakistan and away from the neo-con-created-morasse of Iraq?
By DebbieDoRight
February 28, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
Best Blog So Far:
don’t know. I do know that the Southern Strategy is alive and well within the Republican Party. This Party takes every opportunity to divide on religion, ethnicity, race, sexual orientation or any other subculture they hate and want others to hate as well. Fox News’ decision to run with the phony madrasah story about Obama is one example. The Bush camp’s whisper campaign in the 2000 South Carolina primaries intended to spread the rumor that John McCain fathered an illegitimate “dark” child is another.
Sad, but so very, very true.
By Jim's a Cherry Picker
February 28, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
I thought that the GOP was supposed to put an end to all this backslapping and cronyism.
At the least I would think that their solid grounding in the Christain faith would prevent them from pouring chicken guts into a stream.
Perdue appointee’s firm fined for spill Poultry farm exec is member of Natural Resources Board
By STACY SHELTON The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 02/28/07
Ten days after Gov. Sonny Perdue appointed him to the state environmental board, Joe Hatfield’s family-owned poultry operation received a major fine levied by one of the agencies he helps oversee.
Fieldale Farms Corp., headquartered in northeast Georgia, agreed to pay $35,808 to the state in January for discharging untreated waste from the company’s chicken-parts rendering plant in northeast Georgia into a nearby creek and for other environmental violations related to odors and a mechanical failure.
The spill last July of 50,000 gallons of raw sludge containing remnants of cooked-down, inedible chicken parts, was dumped into Big Tom’s Creek, killing 79 fish, according to the state Environmental Protection Division.
The EPD investigation was well under way when Hatfield joined the Board of Natural Resources, which oversees the EPD and other agencies.
Hatfield is Fieldale Farm’s executive vice president of operations, and the son of one its founders. He oversees cleanups, including the one in Toccoa, and has built several waste treatment plants for his company. Fieldale, which is owned by two families, is now the largest privately owned poultry operation in the nation, providing whole birds and parts to major grocery chains and shipping to more than 50 countries.
Hatfield is also a donor to Perdue. Last year, Hatfield gave $4,000 to Perdue’s campaign, according to financial disclosure reports filed with the State Ethics Commission. Other Fieldale Farms executives also donated in 2006.
In 2005, Hatfield gave $3,500 to Perdue, the same year the governor appointed him to the Board of Economic Development. Hatfield left that board in January to join the natural resources board.
Fieldale Farms has had previous violations, though no fines since 2002. According to EPD records, the company paid $64,543 in fines between 1998 and 2002, including a $10,000 fine in 1998 for another spill into the same creek that also caused a fish kill.
In Atlanta on Tuesday for a Board of Natural Resources meeting, Hatfield, of Clarkesville, said the state environmental regulators who fined his company were “doing their job, just as I’m doing my job. … I don’t feel any different towards them.”
Hatfield said he did not attend a hearing during which company officials met with the Environmental Protection Division to discuss the violations “because I’m a board member. It would be inappropriate for me to try to influence EPD.”
Hatfield also said he plans to abstain from voting on matters that could affect his business.
As a board member, Hatfield is one of 18 members who vote on state environmental rules and regulations, and sets policies. The board also oversees state parks and wildlife management areas.
For their part, EPD officials said Fieldale Farms was handled no differently from any other company that violates environmental laws.
April Ingle, executive director of Georgia River Network, a statewide river advocacy group based in Athens, said the case raises questions about how the governor chooses board members.
She and other environmentalists say the board is slanted toward business and development. “I have no idea what rationale is used,” she said. “Ideally, I think the people would be selected based on a criteria. Let’s let the public see that. [Board members have] got such an enormous amount of power to make really important decisions.”
Bert Brantley, spokesman for Perdue, said the governor makes a point of including representatives from regulated industries on the DNR board. Other members include developers, timber farmers, and an environmental advocate.
“Joe Hatfield is a successful businessman and avid outdoorsman who should not be disqualified from public service because of a mistake made by an employee of his family’s company,” Brantley wrote in an e-mail.
Fieldale told state officials that the spill occurred when an employee mistakenly turned on a pump at 4 a.m. in one of the ponds where waste from the processing plant accumulates on the site and near the creek. The pump is only supposed to be used when connected to a tanker truck to cart away biosolids, or the byproduct of cooked-down chicken parts.
But there was no truck, and the chicken waste ran into the small creek for about two hours before other employees noticed. The creek drains into the Savannah River.
The unnamed employee who caused the spill was fired.
The Toccoa rendering plant cooks down inedible chicken parts, including chicken heads, to make cat feed, cattle feed and biodiesel for trucks, Hensley said.
Waste is first discharged into the holding ponds, where liquids and solids are separated. The solids are taken to a landfill, and the liquid is disposed of by spraying it on a grass field and pine trees on the 500-acre property.
During its investigation the EPD also found that periodically between 2004 and 2006, Fieldale had sprayed too much nitrogen on the property. The pollutant contaminated the groundwater and could eventually cause algae blooms and fish kills in the nearby stream.
Dominic Weatherill, the EPD’s manager of industrial wastewater, said the fine was stiff because the spill killed fish. When the sludge entered the stream, it dramatically reduced the dissolved oxygen in the water, choking the life in it.
“From a water quality standpoint, it doesn’t get a great deal worse than a fish kill,” Weatherill said. “A fish kill is an indicator of a large pollution event.”
Hatfield said his company is in the process of spending $4.5 million at the plant to update the plant’s wastewater treatment system.
By Jack
February 28, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
I call um like I see um BC.
By getalife
February 28, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Great post rarringt.
Much better than wingnut Wooten’s drivel.
Is he a corporate w******* who will protect our sovereignty from the North American Union?
My guess is Clinton will not?
Edwards, do not know but this is the issue to be asked.
I know the gop and the wingnuts do not care about our sovereignty.
By Jack
February 28, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
Tiger has stated many times that he is not black. He is Hawaiian.
By Van
February 28, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
jm,
Pray tell me where. I have heard of it, but I would think the press and other medias would make that a headline or opening segment. I have not seem anything on this supposed act.
By Realist
February 28, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
Jack,
At Stanford, Tiger said he was Blackanese. Doesn’t matter..blacks are the only race that can make another race “black”. Black+Asian=Tiger Woods, Black+white= Obama or Hailey Berry at best (Al Sharpton?), Black + Indian=Sally Richardson, Black + Mexican = Puerto Ricans. Black + Arab = Moses or Jesus..hahaha
By DebbieDoRight
February 28, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
MEDIA STATEMENT:
The purpose of this statement is to explain my heritage for the benefit of members of the media who may be seeing me play for the first time. It is the final and only comment I will make regarding the issue.
My parents have taught me to always be proud of my ethnic background. Please rest assured that is, and always will be, the case - past, present, and future.
The media has portrayed me as African-America; sometimes, Asian. In fact, I am both.
Yes, I am the product of two great cultures, one African-American and the other Asian.
On my father’s side, I am African-American. On my mother’s side, I am Thai. Truthfully, I feel very fortunate, and EQUALLY PROUD, to be both African-American and Asian!
The critical and fundamental point is that ethnic background and/or composition should NOT make a difference. It does NOT make a difference to me. The bottom line is that I am an American…and proud of it!
That is who I am and what I am. Now, with your cooperation, I hope I can just be a golfer and a human being.
Signed,
TIGER WOODS
http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/2396/tigerrace.html
By getalife
February 28, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
Gag order and inspections on the wounded
Pathetic.
Geez.
By Realist
February 28, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
Point being…Limit the proliferation of Blacks..not Nukes
By jm
February 28, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
Van@11:31 - you mean driving while black does not exist in your world?
By Jack
February 28, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
OK. CORRECTION: Tiger said he was NOT an African-American. That better Deb?
By JK
February 28, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten, may I be of assistance today? One reason you fail in your attempts to convert the masses into “Thinking Right” is that you quote the likes of Ann Coulter. The only people who afford her any credibility whatsoever are the ones already sitting so far off to the right they can no longer even SEE the middle, where most of us reside. You’re preaching to the choir, while the rest of us merely shake our heads that your ability to make a solid point is so distant a memory that you cite the invective of a sensationalist ratings hound and claim it as “source.” You might as well be running around with your hair on fire shouting “Aaaaahhhh! Socialists! Aaaaahhhhhh!” like Van does every day.
If you actually care about effective persuasion, please look back to your journalistic roots and offer something more substantial. Hope that helps.
By Van
February 28, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
jm,
I can’t find any reference to that in the AJC, therefore, the AJC says it isn’t that big a deal.
As with most myths, without evidence there can be no crime. If this is happening, there should be some proof. But, then again, the lefties need no proof of anything, it is all in the allegations.
By jm
February 28, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
van@12:16 - ah yes, proof. Tell me, where are those weapons of mass destruction President Bush told us about again?
By Brian Curtis
February 28, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
Jack: “I call ‘em like I see ‘em?” And since you haven’t anything of substance to respond to, you guess.
If you have an argument, make it.
By Van
February 28, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
JK,
And I suppose you call the far left radical politicians something nice? What would you call someone the espouses that the government will take care of all your problems? middle of the road?
As defined in Websters, the short version, a Socialism is a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. and - any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
Sounds pretty good to me. Government control of everything, including how business does business, Sarbanes-Oxley to how we can run and fund political campaigns, McCain-Fiengold. The left want the Government to control all aspects of our life.
By DebbieDoRight
February 28, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
Doesn’t matter..blacks are the only race that can make another race “black”.
The white government did that by declaring anyone with 1/8th of black blood to be black. Get your facts straight REALIST or you might have to have a “reality check” about your illicity stooooopid postings!!
By Jack
February 28, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
BC. You aren’t worth taking the time to argue with. I don’t need an exercise in futility.
By DebbieDoRight
February 28, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
OK. CORRECTION: Tiger said he was NOT an African-American. That better Deb?
Jack, I gave you the link where he said he was 1/2 AA and 1/2 Thai; yet you STILL insist on putting words that were never said into the man’s mouth? You must be republcan…..
By Alana
February 28, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
If Obama were white he would not even be considered. His merit as a candidate only lies in his token status
By jm
February 28, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
Alana@12:49 - It was not Obama’s race the made him the president of the Harvard Law Review nor enabled him to graduate magna cum laude. Also if W’s last name was not Bush, he would have never been president (or governor).
By Dr.Doom
February 28, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
ATTENION EVERYONE:
Doom is embarking upon an evolutionary shift in thought and action. I am a registered independent and from now on my views will reflect such. I am not changing my don’t give a $hit attitude concerning some of you, but I am seeking a more holistic approach in dealing with the idiocy that runs rampant on this blog.
To accurately reflect this shift I have chosen an ID that is suitable and defining. From now on, I will be known as Lord Doom.
Thank You.
By Jack
February 28, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
Deb. I’m not a republican. I’m a conservative. I saw him say he wasn’t AA on the news. I guess you think everything on the web is gospel uhh?
By jbmlaw
February 28, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
I fear the humorless leftists don’t understand – the valid comparison to Ann Coulter is Jon Stewart, not Michael Moore. I cannot understand why anyone with a sense of humor does not devour the works of both. I have read her books, and she writes persuasively; the humor does not cover up the argument. She totally changed my mind on Joseph McCarthy; before I read Coulter on McCarthy, I knew more about McCarthy than anyone else on the blog (except perhaps our friends Southern Democrat and MidSouth Philosopher.)
Dear jm @ 11:03, Jeb is fine by me. I just prefer Condi.
Dear Debbie @ 11:04, I fear my Osama Obana joke went over your head. Hint: see if you can find out who was the first public figure to call the Senator from Illinois by the name “Osama.” The first I heard was of Massachusetts royal blood (in fact I’m surprised you do not hear the audio clip regularly on Rush!)
By TFTrealTruth
February 28, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
By Curious Observer
February 28, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
Forget about Obama. In the end, he will be run over by the Clinton train, unable to raise the huge sums required for a serious campaign and unable to garner the lion’s share of the black vote. The Democrats will choose the only possible path to losing the 2008 presidential election. Hillary is unelectable, given her negatives,and any Republican nominee will beat her.
Only if there names are McCain or Guiliani CO. Anyone to the right of those 2 have not a snow balls chance in hades. Americans have learned their lesson well. Right wing trash had this country held hostage for 6 years but now the rebellion against them is in full swing.
By Curious Observer
February 28, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
Sounds like Lord Doom is emulating the never-to-be forgotten Rednecks—America’s Al Qaeda, when the latter changed to Pope Rednecks. Too bad Lord Doom didn’t acquire half the intellect of Pope Rednecks.
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this
Well said Alana!! @ 12.49
Osama Obama as the odious far left DUI killer Kennedy hilariously called him a while back has managed in these vile politically correct times to meld race/celebrity into some kind of worthless, half arsed cut and run political campaign.
BOTTOM LINE: Osama is just another relatively dim black liberal who the fawning, pandering guilt ridden party of hate media has (for now) adopted as their empty headed vapid leftist wanker of choice. NO ONE can tell us of even ONE major political achievement Osama has managed to perpetrate. Beating a fellow black religious nutter carpet bagger in a one sided all black senate race in a noisily liberal yankkkee state is hardly anything special.
If Osama weren’t half black no one would give a flying toss about this big eared leftist nonenity!!
Depsite all the grivelling puff pieces in the fawning media he still cant’t even attract the black vote. Must be the wrong kind of black elitist … guess Ivy League snotnoses don’t play too well in the hippety hop hood!!
Well done Realist for effortlessly p!ssing off the moron crackpipe debbie!!
By DebbieDoRight
February 28, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
Dear jbmlaw at 1:08 — I don’t care WHO said it. It was crass and disgusting. Hint: If you didn’t agree with it maybe you shouldn’t have repeated it.
By Billy
February 28, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
Friends,
Apparently Mr. Wooten and jbmlaw haven’t heard, but it is well documented that Ann Coulter is a serial liar. Don’t take anything she writes at face value. Check the facts.
By Realist
February 28, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this
Debbie you are off your meds again I see..frist you attack CJ for his understanding black people..now you come unhinged off my posting.
I believe the perm was left too long in your hair.
By Lord Doom
February 28, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this
Curious Sexually,
Do not enflame the wrath of Doom. My suggestion to you is to take a deep breath, get a job, and enjoy life with your lover Spike.
By Realist
February 28, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this
Debbie..I meant Curious Observer and not CJ in my last post.
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
Sad, but true. Even ENGLAND got over it’s old white male syndrome when they voted in Thatcher and Blair — America probably never will.
HA HA HA HA ….
Crackpipe’s geopolitical PIG IGNORANCE is typical of mouthy, uppity brainless liberal cretins!!
It isn’t just “ENGLAND” loveykins at election time … its either Great Britain or actually the U.K. although N Ireland actually has never played any meaningful part in electing a UK PM in modern times. And B.Liar is an elitist ex-public WHITE schoolboy solicitor.
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
curious PEEPING TOM is obviously our unhinged old paedophile rednekkks NAMBLA by yet another pathetic name!! The rabid leftist narcissistic tool NAMBLA used to praise/talk to itself using countless dumbarse ids.
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
B.Liar is actually a barrister … not a solicitor.
By steve-o
February 28, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
Oh boy. Here he comes… Here he comes…
The resident Brit schmuck time for the rag comes out barking his idiotic, far-fetched opinions. Yes it is a fact that Obama beat crazy-arse Alan Keyes. But it’s an awfully deranged and misguided assumption that Obama’s number in the black community is lagging because he doesn’t play well to the “hippity hoppity hood.”
What is the “hippity hoppity hood” anyway? I guess to a two-bit ignorant Brit chump like you, all blacks live there.
…what a tool!
By Blind Homer
February 28, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
Clinton is much more electable than Obama. The electorate includes about 30% hardcore conservatives and 20% hardcore white racists and 5% hardcore black racists, none of whom will ever vote for Obama.
By Jack
February 28, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
Time for the truth. Pretty sharp knife you use.
By jbmlaw
February 28, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
Dear Billy @ 1:27, if we said “it is well documented that you are a humorless moonbat,” it would not make it so. I assume, like most leftists, when you say “well-documented” it means “I dreamed it while on drugs.”
I understand the leftists’ intolerance of a mind like that of Chairman Ann – you cannot beat her at argument so you merely heft mudballs. I think you are incapable of beating her argument on Joe McCarthy. Don’t buy the book, just check it out at the library. I can be persuaded – she changed my mind once, perhaps you could persuade me again. But I don’t expect it – it is a tightly-focused argument.
Dear Debbie @ 1:27, I infer you are humorless. For a good definition of “crass and disgusting,” I suggest:
“You ARE an ignorant white guy!!!” @ 10:56
“From now on I’m going to call you Mr. Delusional; obviously you’ve been reading your own crap, (along with Jim’s) for WAY too long.” @ 11:04
“’ The Bush camp’s whisper campaign in the 2000 South Carolina primaries intended to spread the rumor that John McCain fathered an illegitimate “dark” child is another.’ Sad, but so very, very true.” @ 11:19
“Get your facts straight REALIST or you might have to have a “reality check” about your illicity stooooopid postings!!” @ 12:44
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
The illegal mexican infestation has reduced this ‘suburb’ of LA to this … areas of Gwinnett and bits of Cobb and other places in GA aren’t too far off being as bad as this!!
Thanks to the blatant cowardly racial pandering of the Arkansas rapist and the craven refusal of Bush to act … the USA is being destroyed by an illegal enemy within from without!!
http://www.laweekly.com/general/features/the-town-the-law-forgot/15731/
So predicktably the obese yankkkee turd wanker steve pukes up its usual tired misspelled bollocks. the “hippety hop hood” was a sardonic, trenchant “quip” dickweed!!
you’re out of your special needs skool a bit earlier than usual today I see!! Been excluded again for not taking your full dose of ritalin - eh?
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
cheers for the kind words Jack :)
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
jbm @ 2.16
I respectfully suggest mate that the leftist pukes actually ALWAYS only use the ammunition Zell MIller ascribed to them in his superb, barn stormin’ GOP presidential convention speech …
“mudballs” could be construed by Bush derangment syndrome racial spoils nutters as being racist as they are usually black/brown, but “spitballs” reflect the dank fluid transparency of demoNcrat hatespeech so much better.
By sharkeyextreme
February 28, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
JK’s 12:13 -
Mr. Wooten, may I be of assistance today? One reason you fail in your attempts to convert the masses into “Thinking Right”..
Has anyone ever noticed that when a conservative either writes a column, posts on a blog, or reports on some news story that s/he is trying to convert the masses?
Yes, it’s all coming to me now. When conservatives espouse opinions, and that’s all they are, said conservatives are attempting to convert everyone to their way of thinking. Brainwashing, if you will. Oh sure. Conservatives are going to really sway the mind of a leftist. Are leftists really that insecure?
Oh yes, it’s real clear now. When a leftie posts on a blog like this or the Huffington Post s/he is just expressing an opinion and it’s not about swaying a person’s ideology and thought process. Surely the lefties here are smart enough to not waste so much time on trying to sway the thoughts of conservatives to come around to their way of thinking. No? Yes.
By JP
February 28, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw, funny your support for the hysterical Coulter. She behaves the way Howard Dean is portrayed by the right—ALWAYS off the handle.
I don’t care how sound you believe her arguments are, I despise her constant name-calling and refuse to read her drivel because of that.
Dusty @ 9:22 -
They may want their sons and daughter home but not in retreat. That is the only avenue offered by Democrats.
Georgia doesn’t usually vote with the rest of the USA (see the November 2006 elections), so you may not be aware of this: A majority now supports a deadline for withdrawal and a majority opposes Bush’s “surge.”
Perhaps you should adjust your observations to account for reality.
By jbmlaw
February 28, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
Dear TFTT @ 2:31, as always, you are correct in your challenge. I wish I had said “spitballs.”
Dear JP @ 2:53, with all due respect I see a logical inconsistency. You decline to partake of the intellectual content in Ann Coulter because of her “constant name calling.” Accepting, without agreement for the sake of discussion, your characterization of Chairman Ann’s argument, would you suggest that you read this blog for the intellectual content and that you believe there is no “constant name calling” herein? You are one of the brighter lights among our leftist friends – don’t deprive yourself of quality content merely to preserve your purity.
By Realist
February 28, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
TFTT, Bush doesn’t want anything to do with the Mexi’ant invasion..he’ll just leave it for our kids and thier kids to deal with like everything else he’s been faced or created. He’s been exposed as the lying limp wristed coward with the Rumsfield mess. I’ve given up on the lot. Repubican party, southern gay baptist preachers, lying liberals..the whole lot. I’ve stock piled my funds off shore, I’m armed and ready for whatever! I pray my son’s future will be better..I’m making sure of it.
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Preach on Realist!! Bush has let real Americans like us down very badly. Whilst Iraq was a vital step in the widening global war on towel head terror its been badly mishandled by a bunch of chickensh!t multi-culti GOP moderates in the White House terrified of party of hate media criticism. Bush has no spine, Chertoff is a smug incompetent do nothing bald headed wanker and Rumsfeld was found out long long ago. For 2-3 years these tw—ats did nothing to change things in Iraq drastically enough to actually “win”!!
The demoNcrats have NO leaders, no policies and no vision, they’re just narcissistic scum who want power for powers sake.
The USA desperately needs another visionary leader like Reagan. Looks like (though its very early yet) we’ll get Guiliani who will likely bet better than Bush on some things and as bad/worse on others.
By JK
February 28, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Wow, that’s depressing (3:08). There are some of us left who are still trying to give a rat’s fuzzy about this big collective mess that is US, and the future of America. Are we wrong? Should we just give up and start blastin’ varmints too?
(Cheer up, Hon. Only six more months till you know what!)
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
COME ON YOU SMUG LEFTIES … lets see your comments on the LA Weekly story about somewhere that’s supposed to be in America!!
Along with Bush you despicable liberal racial panderers are DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!!
http://www.laweekly.com/general/features/the-town-the-law-forgot/15731/
By Billy
February 28, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this
This post is to respond to jbmlaw’s post at 2:16.
Ignoring his or her name-calling (“moonbat”) labeling (“leftist”) and so-called humor (“on drugs”), jbmlaw makes the argument that me accusing Ann Coulter of being a serial liar doesn’t make it so. True enough.
Although, I simply advised readers of her work to check her facts (good advice for most pundits), jbmlaw doesn’t seem to think doing so is necessary in Coulter’s case. However, plenty of sources are easily accessible, via a good search engine, to confirm my assertion that Ann Coulter lies are well documented (which, by the way, is common knowledge).
Here’s a little something to help jbmlaw out:
http://www.nationalreview.com/nrcomment/nrcomment100301.shtml
http://www.coulterwatch.com/
http://blogs.usatoday.com/electionline/2006/11/anne_coulter.html
By steve-o
February 28, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
So predicktably the obese yankkkee turd wanker steve pukes up its usual tired misspelled bollocks. the “hippety hop hood” was a sardonic, trenchant “quip” dickweed!!
Oh god…how dumb of me to misspell your cutesy little pharse “hippety hop hood.” It’s amazing how far you can get in life knowing how to spell such a “quip”.
And the “dickweed” name again… My oh my. It’s like what I said yesterday…you couldn’t outwit a 10 year old on the short bus. Seriously, what a tool! Freaking 8 year old child.
you’re out of your special needs skool a bit earlier than usual today I see!! Been excluded again for not taking your full dose of ritalin - eh?
You use phrases like “hippety hop hood” and accuse me of using ritalin? What a sad wanker.
And then you ponder whether to use the phrase “mudball” or “spitball”… Wow…how intellectually profound. Don’t tell me…but I bet that you type with only one finger also. You’re such a schmuck.
By getalife
February 28, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this
Our country is history, you just have not accepted it yet.
We are in a corporate utopia owned government and media.
A new world order, if you will.
Nice work wingnuts.
By Amber
February 28, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
“I’m armed and ready for whatever!”
Realist,
I’m curious. What is the “whatever” that you’re planning and/or anticipating that require you to be “armed and ready”?
By steve-o
February 28, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
Well done with the article at 3:30 TFTT! Now if you can only find an article about idiot Brit immigrants who are dumbing down America…
What a toolbag.
By JP
February 28, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
JBM, thanks. The primary difference between name-calling here and name-calling in an Ann Coulter column is that this forum is interactive. I have no chance to debate AC, so why would i choose to listen?
The success of the Daily Show, one of the few shows with obvious liberal bias that is also commercially successful, shows why making arguments without such tactics is important. I’m sure you’re familiar with conservatives who wouldn’t listen to a Mike Malloy type who is equally prone to hyperbole and name-calling..
By Dusty
February 28, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this
Time for Truth and JK,
There is treatment for depression. Try it.
You are living in the best country in the world and you want to call it a “collective mess”?
Why don’t you send rose colored love notes to the terrorists and invite them over to clean up the “mess”? That must be what you want because that is exactly how it sounds.
I love this country and to put it succinctly, “You make me sick!”
By Herman Goering
February 28, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Dear Jim, I am proud as punch you have quoted Ann Coulter as your authority. She does our memory and philosophy proud. Guten Tag.
By Lord Doom
February 28, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
When a comment such as “not black enough,” is made, Doom believes it is in referance to cultural beliefs not skin color. If I hear someone say that phrase, what they are saying is: Not smart enough, doesn’t bi$th and whine enough, not broke enough, doesn’t hate white people enough.
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
@ wanker steve
your 3.35 was your lamest and most cringeworthy yet example of liberal hyperemesis.
In all seriousness bollockchops, given ‘Dickweed’ is on your sperm bank generated birth certificate - I was simply being polite and using your ‘legal’ first name.
the article I posted shows just what treasonous cowards lefties are in Kalifornia that they stand for this! Mexican types aggressively deport ALL illegals!! We Americans should immediatley do the same … and include all those cut and run pinko bastards with Bush derangment syndrome … the delights of Havana await scum like you and maggot brain, and NAMBLA and crackpipe et al.
By Dusty
February 28, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
Nobody better be talking about Bush!! I mean don’t nobody better be talking about my Bush!!
Say Bush one mo’ again and see what happens!!
DON’T NO-BO-DY-BET-TA-BE-TAL-KIN’-‘BOUT-MY-BUSH!!
By Billy Hates Ann Coulter
February 28, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Billy,
I am no Ann Coulter fan – I believe she does more harm than good to the conservative cause. But please tell me how these three pathetic links are “well documented evidence” of Ann Coulter’s lies. Your first link doesn’t work, your second link can’t be taken seriously by anyone (coulterwatch.com - what a joke).
The best you can do is come up with a story about an INVESTIGATION that Ann Coulter MAY have voted in the wrong precinct. If this story had any traction, the AJC would have run it on the front page every day since this story broke in NOVEMBER of last year.
Fix this first link, and you might get some credibility. Otherwise, you appear to be just another lib living on “Fantasy Island”. I would suggest that you get on da plane, da plane, and fly back to reality.
By Dusty
February 28, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Wanker @ 4:09,
Thanks but no thanks. If I want somebody to post for me, I will get someone with “brains”, not you.
By steve-o
February 28, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
toolbag,
See the thing is this…I was born here. My family has been here since the 17th Century. So you should probably look your Brit self in the mirror when sorting out whom to deport.
The fact that you resort to barbs such as “dickweed” says loads about you and your lack of maturity and clear thought. I really don’t give a damn about your article or what you think. It’s just funny (funny in a sad way) to see you fancy yourself as some sort of deep political thinker when actually you’re just a schmuck looking for attention. I mean you really are DAVID BRENT. Unbelievable. What a toolbag.
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
Dusty (or the id jacker) seems to have completly lost it … too many doughnuts for luncheon never makes for a productive afternoon.
The ONLY thing lovey I want to “send” to towel head terrorists is an invitation wrapped in semtex/1 second fuses to their own live on the web beheadings!!
I am mighty proud to have made you “sick” … lets hope though it don’t lead to anorexia of the unthinking Bush arselicking kind!
By JK
February 28, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Dusty, ummm… How does saying I’m still trying to care about the future of this country equate to sending rose-colored love notes to terrorists?
It’s 4:20 now. Time for your lithium.
By Dusty
February 28, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
I love being a stupid bit$h!!
By Dusty
February 28, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this
Lawd have mercy somebody said something about Bush! Lord Jesus help me!!
Time for the truth, I will fix you good if you say one more thing about my Bush!! Nobody, and I mean NOBODY better be talkin’ ‘bout my Bush!!!!!!
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
@ wanker steve
so your family was deservedly run out of Old Albion then in the good old days of witch finding? length of “stay” here matters not … the massive recent illegal mexican infestation is proof of that!!
baiting gormless ignorant leftist arsewipes like you is like pulling wings off insects … its of no great consequence but is always socially worthwhile.
By Realist
February 28, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
Dusty, I was once a strong supporter or Bush..but things have changed dear. I can care less for liberals just as much as any other strong conservatives, but that will not make me lose my mind and become an apologist for mediocrity. I love that Bush will continue to blast camel-humping muslims of the arab type, however, we are losing footing on our own country by rapists, drug dealing, kidnapping, child molesting mexicans.
Wake the F$$k up!
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
it seems that vetinary didn’t “fix” ‘Dusty the imposter’ properly last week … no matter … Bush derangement syndrome is something that’s ALWAYS best dealt with by swiftly euthanising victims and disposing of them in a lime pit with a live web cam sponsored by Fox News!!
By Dusty
February 28, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
Time for Truth,JK, Realist and assorted wankers,
You called this COUNTRY a “collective mess”. You said it was so bad you had invested offshore, stored firearms, etc.etc. You are saying exactly what our enemies want to hear, a litany of complaints, insinuations and doomsday forecasts.
I never mentioned President Bush but you did. I do admire our President in these times, any war time because it is difficult.
But you are the ones tearing the country apart, complaining, and even using false IDs and dirty words to do it. Carry on, dear liberals. You are still a disgrace.
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
bloody good show realist. you’ve got your ‘ead screwed on straight. i’ve screwed the ‘ead off j. edgar’s remains and am rogering him silly.
By steve-o
February 28, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
tooltime,
Pulling the wings off of insects is socially worthwhile? What a tool!
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
wanker steve
ONLY if they’re liberal fleas, cut and run flying ants or moveon.org horseflies!!
By time for the truth
February 28, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
i believe it is you perve-o who is the tool, you lollygagging, mollycoddling socialist afterbirth filth. many famous people have pulled wings off insects like you _ bundy, dahmer, btk.
By Dusty
February 28, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this
Oh hell naw…y’all done up and did it!!! I tried to tell you ‘bout talking ‘bout Bush but naw…y’all wouldn’t listen!
Wait til I get me my bigger SUV…that’s right…as big as one ‘em mobile command units!! Oh y’all done messed up now! Wait til I ‘tach one ‘em big ‘ol yella ribbons on my SUV. Oh y’all gon learn real quick!!!!!
By steve-o
February 28, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this
tooltime,
First you say how much you love pulling wings off insects…and then you show your aptitude in naming serial killers.
You’re not a normal schmuck, but rather a deranged schizoid.
And what’s with your obsession over afterbirth? You’re a sick little (c)unt.
By Markus
February 28, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
WARNING: I will now be wanking myself for the remainder of the time that this blog is open. Beware of bolded caps and b.s. http links flying at high speeds. Protetive eyewear and raincoat are strongly advised!
By Billy
February 28, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
To the poster at 4:13 operating under the silly moniker, “Billy Hates Ann Coulter”,
In fact, the point of the three links I provided for jbmlaw was simply to get him or her started. As I wrote in my earlier post, anybody who is comfortable using a search engine (most 10 year-olds) could easily find plenty of links proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that Ann Coulter is a serial liar –- again, common knowledge. There should be no need for me to provide such links for either him or you. However, since you seem to be challenged in this area, I’ll give you a little help — Google ‘Ann Coulter’ AND ‘National Review’, and I think you’ll be able to find your way to the National Review page I tried to provide.
Also, if you had taken the time to look at CoulterWatch.com site, you would have found that it’s a website maintained by conservatives who are concerned that they’re losing the public because of venom and misinformation spewed by the likes of Ann Coulter. They document some of her lies on the site. On the third link, you’re correct about the fact that Coulter is under INVESTIGATION for lying on her voter registration form. Whether or not she’s guilty remains to be seen, although the folks over at the National Review are likely to wager that she is.
“da plane, da plane”? My friend – you’re embarrassing yourself.
By For the Record ...
February 28, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
Ann Coulter is not a historian. Her work couldn’t pass muster in an undergrad history course, much less in a refereed journal. The reason is simple, and should be clear even to her partisans: she completely ignores contradictory evidence. (Her research skills are abysmal as well.)
Ms. Coulter depends on the essential ignorance of her right-wing base, who, judging from the commentary on this blog, know even less of history than they do of science, or math, or literature, or art. She is a professional vulgarian. Perhaps her fans can’t discern the difference between the “wit” of someone whose idea of humor is “someone should poison Justice Stevens” and a satirist like Jon Stewart — but anyone with a wisp of taste and intelligence can — and does.
(So Jbmlaw, how does she rehabilitate that Great Conservative American, Roy Cohn? Does she forgive him his cold-blooded murder of Ethel Rosenberg?)
By Van
March 1, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
I guess the left feels about Ann Coulter the same way the right feels about Maureen Dowd. Interesting.
By FKanstermack
March 1, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this
Maureen Dowd? Uh-huh. What lies has she told? Which Supreme Court Justices or politicians has she said should be murdered or jailed for treason?
Here’s another of many, many links you find by Googling “Ann Coulter” AND lies.
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20030630.html
Enjoy.
By Jessie
March 1, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this
I guess Van feels about about c**-fighting the same way everybody else feels about the baseball. Interesting.
By Van
March 1, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
FKanstermack and Jessie, I nominate these two for idiots of the month.
They have proven the closed mindedness of the lefties.
Attack an opinion writer on the left and the vicious attacks begin. Attack an opinion writer on the right and that is okay and the right thing to do.
I compared the likes of the right and the left without attacking either a poster or a columnist.
These two bumpkins acted like I insulted their high school.
I see the left believes in the free exchange of opinions.
By Pequod
March 5, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
It was humorous to see that after Jim Wooten praised Coulter for her supposed ability to “turn a phrase” she referred to John Edwards as a “f*.” Brilliant turn of phrase, eh, Jim. However, not atypical as the following comments reveal.
“I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote.”—-Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01
“I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote.”—-Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99
“You want to be careful not to become just a blowhard.”—-Washington Post 10/16/98 (emphasis added)
By Pequod
March 5, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
And here are a few more:
God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, ‘Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It’s yours.’”—-Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01
The “backbone of the Democratic Party” is a “typical fat, implacable welfare recipient”—-syndicated column 10/29/99
To a disabled Vietnam vet: “People like you caused us to lose that war.”—-MSNBC
“I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don’t need any more.” Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, “Well, before the New Deal…[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start.”—-Politically Incorrect 5/7/97
By Pequod
March 5, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
The last one was my favorite.
The great Republican president Abraham Lincoln famously spoke “with malice towards none and charity for all.” It think he would hardly recognize his party today.
If Coulter and her brethren were interested in rational persuasion, reaching people who had different views they would hardly take the approach of perpetual insult. But that is not her interest. Her interest is in galvanizing the political illiterates, blowhards, and others who would ordinarily not vote. Those, like think the ad hominem attack, the more vicious the better, is an argument and that insult provides reasons for a position.