Thinking Right

By Mid-South Philosopher

February 23, 2007 08:06 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

I will respond to selected items from today’s Thinking Right.

With regard to Picking a Sheriff 101, isn’t it about time we professionalized that office and made it like the county school superintendent, an appointed position filled by a professional?

Four year terms for legislators…a great idea. Make it better by limiting all legislators to two terms only!

Excellent source of non-fossil fuel energy…all the hot air from the 50 state legislatures, governors’ offices, not to mention the Congress and the White House. But come to think of it there are quite a number of fossils in those places!

Hank Williams, Jr. …too bad, Anna Nicole is no longer available.

Georgia’s 34 technical schools losing students…haven’t you heard, Jim, everyone is supposed to go to college. No Child Left Behind and all that. I don’t know who in the he** is going to put in the septic tanks and landscape the lawn…Oh, wait…Miguel, where are you Miguel?

Salmonella…my Momma’s and my Granny’s kitchens, were they in existence today, would be closed by the CDC immediately! We have become a people with weak digestive constitutions…likely from too much fast food…if we can call it food.

Iran’s ignoring of the UN demand for a freeze on their nuclear fuel enrichment program…we should have swatted the Persians years ago, but Jimmy Carter didn’t have the gonads. Given the fact that Rumsfeld and Bush have weakened our conventional forces in the failed Iraqi occupation, the only alternative is tactical nuclear weapons. From what I am hearing, Bush doesn’t have the gonads to use those either. Well, if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em. Let’s see how does Ayatollah Jim and Imam Philosopher grab you.

Habeas corpus…when the radical Islamists take over, it will not be an issue!

On a matter not touched by Thinking Right today, Judge Larry Seidlin took a lot of guff for turning what should have been a four hour hearing into a 4 day television circus. Kudos to the judge! In his eccentric way, he wore down the piranha lawyers and loser principals in this tragic case, and in the end he did what was right. One other thing…is it just me or does Judge Seidlin resemble a “bald” Henry Winkler?

By jbmlaw

February 23, 2007 08:12 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. It seems that Sen. Douglas and Rep McKeown emulate the wisdom that animated the Republican Congress 2005-2006, and wish to bring same to Georgia. Clearly destined for higher office, though perhaps not for long.

Jim, our leftist friends will not appreciate your global warming and ethanol comments; remember we presently have a frenzy to funnel as much public money as possible to Archer Daniels Midland and DuPont, to save us all.

As to the peanut butter, let’s secretly serve the canapés at the Peter Pan and Walmart board meetings this quarter, give ‘em a surprise.

Saw an argument we need to forward to Mr. Barrow: As our 25,000 brave young soldiers head out to try to extinguish the murderous Islamists, imagine the effect our Congress could have in the send-off by saying “We have every confidence in your capacity to destroy the enemy,” instead of a limp-wristed “You are doomed to failure.” Sure, and they support the troops. We don’t question their patriotism, but it sounds like drugs have affected their judgment. Those idiot democrats don’t know how to inspire our fighting forces. If you are only going to posture politically with “nonbinding resolutions,” why not offer one to urge success? “Loser” mentality is ingrained deeply there; they even seem to like it, and think it praise-worthy.

Can’t go to Nigeria – I’m a blood donor, and you are barred for a year if you go to a mosquito-infested backwaters country. But I can see the reason the new- and smarter- Delta management would want to embrace that tourist Mecca.

Amazing, isn’t it, that courts could seriously entertain the possibility that POWs held overseas should have right to sue in Federal court during a war.

By Brian Curtis

February 23, 2007 08:24 AM | Link to this

By the way, I’d love to see any of our self-proclaimed “libertarians” defend Wooten now that he’s taken this position on Guantanamo. “Unchecked police power for government is a GOOD thing! Only terrorists worry about rights!”

Brilliant stuff, Wooten; thanks for making it clear just how anti-American the current regime wants to be.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

February 23, 2007 08:25 AM | Link to this

Hi Jim,

Re Georgia Dems who voted for the resolution against Iraq: Wouldn’t a “private sector” analysis of the war conclude something along the lines of “it’s not prudent to continue to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on an effort that is producing not only few, but arguably negative, results”?

Where’s the cost benefit analysis on the war?

By Van

February 23, 2007 08:45 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

Please explain your 08:24 post. It does not make sense. Gitmo and police powers are not even remotely connected. Gitmo is a military base, not a police station.

By Redneck Convert

February 23, 2007 08:52 AM | Link to this

When the boys down at the capital vote to allow me to carry my 45 and my M-1 on the front seat I’m going to shoot up any road sign that has the name of one of Those People.

I don’t know why people is against a war with Iran. We already got our troops right next door and could knock them off during the surge. A few A-bombs would help do the trick. It would be hard for them to get their own A-bomb if all they got is a bunch of cinders glowing kind of green.

Me and my buddy Jim Earl decided this Judge Seidlin is all right. We could use a few judges that could cry while they pass out the death penalty here in GA. They could talk about the victims and how they don’t have no life no more and sob and all. Then they could hand out good Southren justice. We are losing the race to Texas. We need at least 6 executions a month to keep up and pass them.

And I say make all Republicans elected for life and have elections only for Democrats so we can turn them out of office. It’s just a pity that even visits from my hero, George W. Bush, couldn’t get them 2 Republicans elected last year. Must be a bunch of libruls and Those People down there.

We didn’t throw out our Peter Pan peanut butter. We made a whole bunch of peanut butter sandwiches and fed them to Joe Bill. We waited for the x-plosion but nothing happened.

Well, time to make my run to stock the bars for the Baptists this weekend. They don’t like selling booze on Sunday but they sure drink a ton of it. Tell Sister Dusty we got a real big copperhead to handle down at the Church of Holiness on Sunday. Don’t be late.

By Brian Curtis

February 23, 2007 08:58 AM | Link to this

Van: “police powers” means more than just police officers, which should be obvious to any reasonably educated person. It covers anything the executive branch is responsible for, including the military.

And any real libertarian wants nothing to do with the Bush Regime—which explains why Boortz is such a major cheerleader, for example.

By Van

February 23, 2007 09:03 AM | Link to this

I always have trouble with the concept of private-public partnerships. It always seems that no matter who puts the money up, the public entity always has to call the shots.

Since the public sector has such a grand reputation of being efficient and thrifty, maybe they should not enter into the business arena. Let business do business and let government govern.

By Richard

February 23, 2007 09:08 AM | Link to this

By Jim Wooten | Thursday, February 22, 2007, 07:42 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution• How quickly the new guys become the old. State Sen. John Douglas (R-Social Circle) and state Rep. Mike Keown (R-Coolidge) introduce proposed constitutional amendments calling for four-year terms. From Rabun Gap to Tybee Light, the little people are demanding relief from the high burden of voting for legislators every two years. And a compliant Legislature hears and heeds their voices.

Jim, would you want this voice “heeded” if the legislature was controlled by Democrats? The last thing anyone should want is to give any politician more time to sell himself to his special interest johns. The only way I am ever for extending any politicians term is if a one and out law is attached to the legislaion. And that includes the presidency of the United States and every congressman and senator. It is time to make career politicians and extinct species. Mexico is really on to something with their one six year term for their president.

By time for the truth

February 23, 2007 09:08 AM | Link to this

Highly amusing and wonderfully fitting that todays column starts with a sadly rather restrained dig at two useless, corrupt black GA sheriffs whose blatant racism/incompetence are already legendary. One racist bigotedly fires competent white folks for NO reason and then hilariously has to swallow its racist pride and reinstate the white folks. The other equally pathetic sorry excuse for an elected official in Fulton Co can’t even do something elementary in the job description, like run a jail properly or protect courthouses.

All those pig sick of anna nicole coverage puke up in a plastic bag and send it in a plain brown envelope - without a stamp - to HiTllary Rotten Klinton’s campaign donations c/o The Arkansas Rapist’s general unaudited slush fund. Get the address off David Geffen.

We now really need to bomb Iran, flatten their parliament, key nuclear installations and kill their fascistic leadership. Messages on the bombs (for later tv coverage on Al Jazeera/CNN/BBC hate America casts should read … lots of big nosed self absorbed luv, B Streisand … suck on this warmongering turds, S.Penn … death to racist fascist mohammedan scum, T Robbins … I really luv G W Bush (hic), Pelosibitch.

Any news of corrupt bigot Billyboy Campbell’s all too short time in the federal big house? Long time no hear from this lying, gambling, tax cheating, adulterous, sleazy felon.

David Geffen needs the congressional medal for straight talking leftist queers (gedditt??). His incisive factual commentary on the venal corrupt to the core mendacious Klintons was the highlight of the week.

Not much media coverage given to this utterly predicktable thuggish hippety hop debacle… now if white preppy lacrosse athletes who’d been lynched for NO reason at all (other than racial spite) were even slightly involved imagine the shrill party of hate media screeching

http://sports.aol.com/whitlock/_a/mayhem-main-event-at-nba-all-star/20070220103009990001

By Brian Curtis

February 23, 2007 09:13 AM | Link to this

Van: Yes, isn’t it terrible when the citizens of the country want to have a say in things that affect them—like economics?

The public sector is permanently involved in business already—it’s just been siding with capital and against labor for the last few decades. Now that we want to restore the balance and look out for workers and consumers for a change, there are cries of “Free market! Keep the government out—except for special tax incentives, loopholes, bailouts, special-interest legislation, etc. etc.”

The cry to “keep government out of business” is a thinner smokescreen than most.

By abc

February 23, 2007 09:14 AM | Link to this

Wood-based ethanol production is right around the corner. The plant I’m invested in opens in 3 weeks. If successful, they’ll be marketing ethanol at about $1.10 per gallon, vs. approximately $3.50 per gallon for corn-based ethanol.

By Van

February 23, 2007 09:14 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

You still have not explained. If your reference to Gitmo and police powers refer to the recent court decisions in regards to habeas corpus, that has always been the standing of combatants. They do not enjoy the same rights and privileges as the citizens they are trying to kill. Only a social liberal would ever think that. During WWII, the German prisoners, held here in America had no rights in our courts, they remained under the jurisdiction of the military, not the civil courts.

By Richard

February 23, 2007 09:18 AM | Link to this

By Jim Wooten | Thursday, February 22, 2007, 07:42 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution • Again. If it takes gas and fertilizer to produce it and if you can eat it, you can’t afford to put it in a gas tank. It’s a dead rush for me between believing that man causes global warming and that food-based fuel is a ticket to energy independence. Get back to me when a commercially viable cellulosic ethanol plant comes on line.

I’m with you on this one Jim. Once that caught hold and we became “relient” on corn to power us we would have just gone from oil cartels to corn cartels. I can just see it now. Between alledged “market forces” and weather, $100.00 per bushel corn would be right around the corner. And then there is the old OPEC trick of manipulating the supply. Growers would be payed not to grow corn to keep prices high. Ethanol is not the answer. The technology exists already to produce vehicles that can achieve extremely high mileage, which reduces relience on foreign oil. Ethanol would produce the same easily controlled and manipulated system that we already have today. It would just be another big bag of candy for the same big business interests.

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 09:18 AM | Link to this

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

Who is the “enemy” in Iraq?

Who is the surge targeting?

Are Roadside bombs and Copter flack the only offensive capability of the “enemy” in Iraq? (Talk about limited range)

What end game scenario would allow our troops to withdraw from Iraq?

Does it even matter what happens in Iraq for the next twenty years? Roadside bombs have limited range.

Roadside bombs have limited range. What are we doing over there?

We are tempting the cockroach theory to naturally select an enemy tactic of experiment and review that will quickly evolve an effective strategy and offensive capability under fire. War engenders quantum leaps of ingenuity in weaponry and tactics. We are creating the hybrid monster that will survive to fight again, just like trying to kill cockroaches always makes them evolve into invinsible pests. Whoever the pest is.

By Van

February 23, 2007 09:19 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

“The public sector is permanently involved in business already—it’s just been siding with capital and against labor for the last few decades.”

This is an interesting take you have. The largest and fastest growing labor unions and pool is with government.

The business of government is to govern, when the government gets into businesses it governs, that is a conflict of interest.

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 09:27 AM | Link to this

Ohhh jbmlaw,

Truer words were never spoken!!! If I may repeat your words in reference to Democrats in Congress:“‘Loser’ mentality is deeply ingrained there; they even seem to like it and think it is praiseworthy.”

That is true, not only in Congress, but evidenced here daily by liberals. Every day we hear how NON-SUPPORT is really support. I guess we are back to that old line about “what a tangled web we weave…when first we practice to deceive..” with liberals. The deception came when they tried to find a substitute for their motto “Bush sucks!”

By JP

February 23, 2007 09:28 AM | Link to this

Wes Clark has the right approach to Iran: slow down. “Military force against Iran is not the solution now, and if we adopt the right strategy, perhaps it need never be.”

By Ken Lay and da boyz

February 23, 2007 09:28 AM | Link to this

By Van

February 23, 2007 09:03 AM | Link to thisSince the public sector has such a grand reputation of being efficient and thrifty, maybe they should not enter into the business arena. Let business do business and let government govern.

Yeah buddy! Those private interests in Iraq are doing such a fine job with all the cost overruns, fraud, and such that ole Dubyah had to sign something to keep all of them out of jail! You brought your A game again today, didn’t you Van! LMAO!!!

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 09:38 AM | Link to this

For six years now, Vice President Dick Cheney has been answering questions with a blank stare and a scrunched-mouth scowl delivered in a hushed quack. His latest spin on British Troop withdrawal justification is the one sentenced history of our involvement with the world post 911. Who will prosecute this man and stop him? He is lying on borrowed diplomacy and our foreign policy advocates may never recover.

Either it doesn’t matter what happens in Iraq because roadside bombs have very limited range, or Cheney knows something about terrorist’s plans for attacks in the USA that prevent him from saying anything real.

Or this war really is about oil, 41 vs 43, and defense industry lobbying success.

By Van

February 23, 2007 09:39 AM | Link to this

Ken Lay and da boyz,

As you so well stated, the situation in Iraq is a bit odd. We have active combat going on and instead of using military personnel , U.S. Navy Seabees, to help rebuild, the private and public sectors joined together. Another well run efficient mess. Thanks for making my point.

By Southern Democrat

February 23, 2007 09:41 AM | Link to this

I take umbrage with Mr. Wooten’s attack on those who voted in favor of the non-binding resolution and calling for their defeat in the 2008 election. I would not advocate voting against persons who voted in favor of the Iraq War or against the non-binding resolution, even though that is where I stand ideologically.

Litmus tests are for the intellectually weak.

By @@

February 23, 2007 09:42 AM | Link to this

Now Jim, down here in Clayton County we do have classes; “Picking on a Sheriff 101”.

Victor is a 5’ litigation tapeworm eating up our county’s ability to maintain or even secure insurance.

Term limits? Victor Hill’s should have been 1 month.

Alternative fuels? Have you heard about the nut found in Africa? A source for bio-diesel fuel and just four seeds are fatal if consumed. The plant has a 50 year life span and thrives in drought conditions.

A poisonous seed?

Hank Williams Jr? “His cheatin’ heart is four times due…he’ll cry and cry and say it’s you.”

Technical colleges? Man I hate to hear that, really. Does Jackson have anything to say about all the government-run agencies that have proven ineffective? Any impending layoffs there?

Sal Monella? He’s a suspicious fella. You suspected he was in your chicken broth, didn’t you? Why doesn’t he just keep his nose out of things where it doesn’t belong.

Those Surrender Democrats? I’d like to ask them one important question. Are you wearing boxers or briefs. Let ‘em breathe for crying out loud.

Iran? You know, I’m always amazed when I read about how many smaller countries are dependent on the U.S. for our military strength. It’s so important for so many around the globe, but yet liberals are all too eager to surrender it and them.

Habeas corpus? You should cut & paste that one over at MoveOn.Org, but don’t expect a warm welcome Jim.

Senator Brown? So what’s in a name Jim? Its’ value is in the bottom line where your signature goes, not on a stationary object, right?

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 09:46 AM | Link to this

Awhile back, many bloggers asserted that the USA is not living the war, or feeling the effects of it.

Is that because there is no war, but just a few limited range roadside bombs going off every few hours in the stinking desert of Iraq? Is that a war?

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

How much concern should americans have about Iraq? the world?

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 09:52 AM | Link to this

Iraq. What?

Mission? Statement.

Future. War on terror.

Last Throes. 4What foes?

Who is the enemy?

What is the mission?

Iraq.

By Richard

February 23, 2007 09:54 AM | Link to this

By abc

February 23, 2007 09:14 AM | Link to this

Wood-based ethanol production is right around the corner. The plant I’m invested in opens in 3 weeks. If successful, they’ll be marketing ethanol at about $1.10 per gallon, vs. approximately $3.50 per gallon for corn-based ethanol.

abc, I only have one question regarding the wood based fuel. Since trees take years to become mature enough for harvest and conversion to wood, just how many trees will it take to produce this type fuel? And where will they come from?

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 09:55 AM | Link to this

Writer’s Block.

You are blocked in more ways than one. If you don’t know why we are fighting in Iraq,who the enemy is, or the goal of the surge, are you in a coma??

You suggested prosecution for VP Cheney about his words on the withdrawal of 1500 British troops from Basra. Do you also want to prosecute Tony Blair and Condi Rice for all saying, as Cheney did, that Iraqi troops could now control that region?

Just more laughable “support” from the ever retreating pack of liberals.

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

What is the mission of AL Queda?

What is the national policy of the elected parliament in Iraq?

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

How can the Kurds be experiencing an economic boom and have peace when Baghdad is burning?

Are there already three Iraqs? Is that why the Bris are leaving the Shia zone?

What is the mission of British Troops in Iraq?

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Who is the enemy in Iraq.

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

How big a threat is a roadside bomb in Baghdad to our involvement in the global war on terror?

What is the mission of the roadside bomb creators? Are they the only enemy?

Who is the enemy in Iraq? What are their goals? Is there an alliance of diverse factions?

What is the enemy’s goals? What enemy?

Enemy. Who. Where. What. How.

Political Science 101.

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Southern Democrat awwww

You wouldn’t tell a big fib on Friday morning, would you?

So you would not vote against someone with whom you disagree because that is not where you stand ideologically?? How do you make your voter choice? Voting on someone with whom you totally disagree? That sounds very “high minded” but totally unthinkaable. Oh I know, the issues, the issues!!

Well, soon I hope to see you posting as Southern Republican. It follows your line of thinking. Welcome to the Party of rational and fair thinkers and supporters of our troops. You can’t rationalize ‘em so join ‘em.

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Is it fair to hold Bush accountable for the infamous photo op called mission accomplished on that aircraft carrier? Did his admonition that there was much “hard work” ahead, cover all the complications we are now experiencing, so it’s okay?

Bush did say that there was much hard work ahead. So he knew about all this?

So we’re okay? The mission is on track? It’s accomplished, but there’s hard work ahead, and we’re doing that hard work, that’s all, everything’s fine.

What is the mission accomplished part of our mission in Iraq?

What constituted the Non Hard Work part of the accomplished mission?

By abc

February 23, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

The wood-based ethanol plant I’m invested in uses refuse from logging operations. It doesn’t directly harvest trees for the production.

Honda is researching using refuse from rice production as the basis for ethanol production.

By abc

February 23, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

…oh, and the plant is in Montana.

By jbmlaw

February 23, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Dear Brian @ 8:58, I am distressed that you don’t know the difference between police and military. That inability to distinguish the two functions is endemic among socialist dictators in the third world, but Americans have no difficulty – normally – in finding the lines between those efforts.

Similarly, do you erroneously believe libertarians oppose national defense, or even the local gendarmes? To give you a hard black line: a libertarian acknowledges that (absent statutory law) the Constitution allows the government to wiretap anyone and everyone, with or without permission of anyone, but believes the government should not be allowed to use wiretap evidence in court against the person whose wire is tapped. It may be an invasion of privacy, it may be a waste of precious economic resources, but so long as the government is unable to PUNISH – key word - one for any information obtained from the wiretap or the “derivative fruit,” no liberty is impinged. All we want is the right to be left alone. We don’t care what anyone knows.

Dear Brian @ 9:13, are you saying you think it is ok if my guys make your economic decisions for you?

Dear Richard @ 9:08, take a clue from Emily Latella – Jim was mocking the legislators.

Dear @@ @ 9:42, “Have you heard about the nut found in Africa?” Just one?

By CJ

February 23, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Jim,

On habeas corpus…not movin’ on. The recent Court of Appeals decision will probably be appealed to the Supreme Court, and hopefully in the meantime, Congress will reinstate habeas corpus for persons detained at Guantanamo as an enemy combatant. It’s an important legal principal necessary to protect, not terrorists, but the innocent from unlawful detention.

I know many would argue that the writ of habeas corpus only exists for Americans, but if we want to export our values around the world, then when given the opportunity to lead by example, we should apply the same constitutional protections to others. Incidentally, doing so would help our fight against terrorism — not hinder it.

Mid-South,

A little history. We did swat Iran in 1953 when we replaced their democratically elected leader with a U.S. backed dictator – the infamous shah of Iran. People have a tendency to get pi$$ed off about such things. Most Middle Easterners and Iranians are well aware of our history in the region; most Americans are not. The connection between 1953 and 1979 and today is direct. There’s a CIA term, “blowback”, that we should all become familiar with.

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

A political science pop quiz.

What is war?

How do we determine who an enemy is?

What ingredients are necessary for one warring party to declare a victory?

What constitutes an offensive campaign in war.

Is a mission statement even necessary for any troops in any war?

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

February 23, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Writer’s Block,

Funny thing…I was talking to Dick Cheney around 8:30 last night about what we can do to pump more government money into quail reserves in Texas, but he kept going on and on about the “enemy”:

“they’re everywhere…there, in the treeline…just beyond the sandy knoll. I can just make out the towel on their heads. Can’t you see them? They’re looking right at us!

DAMMIT…YOU SEE THEM DON’T YOU? THEY’RE THERE. RIGHT OVER THERE!!!!

AGGGHHHHH….”

And then he hung up. He gives me the creeps.

So anyway, I tried to call GW to get him to check up on Dick, but GW was already in bed for the night.

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Just try to blog one truth about our mission in Iraq.

Anyone. One truth. One fact. One reliable estimate of anything in this war.

War. Peace. Here. There.

Is it all just spin that sells? We sell cokes and burgers and RX on television which we watch to see what’s happening in Iraq.

Is that what’s fueling the war? Advertising lobbyists?

What is going on. 4 real.

4 real. Say one truth about Iraq. one.

Cheney. Scowl. Spin. Hushed quack. Uneasy shift in interview chair. We’re winning. Last throes. I know a guy who drove for seven hours without being killed.

Iraq is a scam? Just renegade bomb makers blowing off steam in a desert? ANd we’re packaging it as a war so that the republicans can stay in power and pass tax cuts and power grabs and moral legislation?

Is it the Jesus lobby? What would Jesus Lobbyists do?

By abc

February 23, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Frankly, the ‘mission accomplished’ scene on the aircraft carrier was inciteful for veterans like me, with any awareness of Bush’s own military record. His daddy bought his way out of the National Guard, and there he was in a flight suit, as if he even finished his flight training in F-111’s. His last assignment was for confinement in Colorado Springs due to to AWOL, and he didn’t even show up for that, hitting the campaign trail for someone in Alabama instead.

That’s the number 1 reason I didn’t vote for him. Better to have NO military record than such a poor record as he has.

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

One thing about the surge: we are getting closer to defining who the enemy is. Apparently the enemy is invisible and looks like the population of the surge area. The enemy is just being themselves in their natural habitat and because they look and act like 100 percent of the population in the surge area, we cant see them. They are not retreating but just being secretive when they plant these roadside bombs.

Is there one fact in any of the preceeding? I dont know. I just listen to the news and ask questions.

By Van

February 23, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

CJ,

Am I correct in thinking you would have allowed German POW’s access to our civil courts during WWII?

The vaulted Geneva Convention does not allow this. It clearly states the combatants fall under military jurisdiction, to be accorded the same right and privileges as military that captured them, i.e. military law.

I still ask, why would we extend the rights of our citizenship to those non-citizens that would destroy it?

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

There is a maxim that goes: whatever a man projects as his truth is the opposite of what’s in his heart and mind. The last refuge of a scoundrel then is the refutation of a scoundrel.

So Bush’s military acumen, displayed so bravely to the world now, is in fact the polar opposite of his own military truth?

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq.

What is the national policy about our intervention’s goals in Iraq?

Can anyone enunciate a valid point about the last four years in Iraq?

I cant. I honestly dont know why, how, where, who, or what concerns we should have about our troops mission in Iraq.

By CardCarryingRepub

February 23, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Dusty, sometime people of concious have to make that choice when an ideology becomes so unpalatable that the only way to defeat it is to choose the lesser of 2 evils. Any political analyst will tell you that 2 things happened in 06. 1: People voted against Iraq. 2: Many moderate republicans and independents opted for change. Why? Because many of us/them could not bear to see the far right wing of the Republican become the definition of republicanism. It is anything but. Yet a fringe moniority was making an overt attempt to hijack the party and define it as the party of their far right beliefs. Whether you will admit it or not, lots of moderate republicans and independents accustomed to voting for republican candidates decided to take back the party by temporarily opting for change or staying away from the polls. Purely and simply. We/they ran away as far and as fast as possible from what amounts to a tyranical minority residing on the fringes of the party that no mainstream American wants to be associated with. When the republican party once again becomes mainstream, truly conservative both fiscally, and philosophically, we/they will return. But never again will we allow the right wing to be the definition of the party. If the party doesn’t once again become what it used to be, it can just about consider itself dead. If the party becomes what conservative truly means once again, we/they will come back. If not the party will become the one that got pounded in 64. That will be it’s future.

By jbmlaw

February 23, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Dear Writer’s block @ 10:14, if you are attempting to prove political science is a faux discipline, in its inability to resolve any issues, you don’t have to expend any more effort – most everyone on this blog knows that already.

By Richard

February 23, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

abc, I only have one question regarding the wood based fuel. Since trees take years to become mature enough for harvest and conversion to wood, just how many trees will it take to produce this type fuel? And where will they come from?

By abc

February 23, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Richard, scroll up… wood-based ethanol is made from bark, branches, twigs, etc. left over from logging.

By JP

February 23, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Southern Democrat: “I would not advocate voting against persons who voted in favor of the Iraq War or against the non-binding resolution, even though that is where I stand ideologically.”

I do advocate voting against those who voted against the resolution. In 2002, the “intelligence” was misleadingly presented - there’s a narrow window for those who legitimately trusted what we were being told at that time.

In 2007, knowing how flimsy the case against Iraq was, there’s no excuse. The only reason I’ve heard for voting against the resolution is blatant partisanship and fear of “emboldening.” Hogwash. Vote ‘em out.

By Jim Wooten

February 23, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Morning all. I’ll be away for a week, lounging in the Caribbean, testing Mr. getalife’s suggestion that the life of leisure would suit me.

Topics will continue to be posted and my colleague, Mike King, may be weighing in from time-to-time. Remember the dinner-table standard: If you’d be embarassed saying it at Mr. King’s table, don’t say it here.

By @@

February 23, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw @ 10:13:

I wanted to draw a clear distinction between those resolved “nuts in legal briefs” and “nuts on a Bush”, but then it appears as though there isn’t much of a difference, is there?

Nuts abound…I give you ^^^ “Writer’s block”? So many questions from such a small mind…

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

To support the man who had this to say:

“Don’t just fire back, crush the place where the fire came from,” Maliki replied. “Don’t treat them with leniency. This is an armored vehicle here, use it.”

How much concern should americans have about Iraq? the world?

How much concern do you want Americans to have for you? How much concern do you have for others? How concerned are you over Russia and China?

By jm

February 23, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Brazil has quite an interesting alternative energy program using sugar for ethanol.

Regarding a nuclear powered Iran. Flawed document that it is, the Nuclear Non Proliferation agreement does provide for countries like Iran to have access to nuclear power (it also calls for the US and other nuclear powers to eventually get rid of their nuclear weapons). Also, the creator for some reason put uranium within their borders (no need for yellowcake from Nigeria). I am not too crazy about the mullahs with nukes but even the “reformists” in Iran support a nuclear program, so regime change is probably not the answer in the short term either.

Bombing is probably not the answer either. One of the side effects of the Israeli bombing of Osirak (which was being built according to at least the letter of the non proliferation agreement) was that it told countries like Iran if they wanted access to nuclear energy, they had to do it underground.

Regarding the detainees at Guantanamo, still not sure the short term strategic gain has been worth the long term hit in prestige. The last large scale experiment with unlawful combatants (Vietnam) did not fare so well when US soldiers started being captured. In fact, that was one reason the US started granting POW status to VC fighters.

By JK

February 23, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Just try to blog one truth about our mission in Iraq.

“I would say probably between 200,000 and 500,000 barrels a day is probably unaccounted for in Iraq,” says Mikel Morris, who worked for the State Department’s Iraq Reconstruction Management Organization (IRMO) in Baghdad. “Depending on fluctuations in the price of oil, the thefts could be worth $20 million to $30 million per day.”

A Houston-area petroleum engineer, Morris says Iraq’s oil industry is wide-open to corruption because there are no working meters anywhere in the system to keep count of how many millions of barrels of oil Iraq produces or exports. “It’s like a supermarket without a cashier. There is no metering. And there’s no metering at the well heads either. There’s no metering at any of the major pipeline junctions,” he says.

Hmmm… Sounds to me like somebody IS accomplishing their mission.

By Dennis

February 23, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Jim Wooten said, “Is it clear now? Federal courts have no jurisdiction over habeas corpus petitions by Guantanamo Bay detainees. Congress can and did decide jurisdiction. Move on.”

Perhaps you’d like to “move on” Mr. Wooten, but if we do, the military can arrest any American citizen it wants under any trumped up charge it wants to and any time it wants to e.g. even protesting.

And with holding the rights of American citizens without trial is already being done. For example, Jose Padilla, who probably is, or would be, a homegrown terrorist, but he IS an American citizen and under our constitution is entitled to face his accusers.

If this treatment can happen to him or another citizen, it can also happen to you, to me, or anyone else on these forums.

Let’s not “move on”, Mr. Wooten. Let’s write some columns supporting the rights of all citizens to a fair trial. I don’t know about you, but I would call that responsible journalism.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

to under your “move on”, and I don’t think that’s what the American people want, not does the Constitution call for the military to run the country.

By Van

February 23, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

JP,

Is this “intelligence” , the same “intelligence” that Clinton had? Is this the same “intelligence” that Hillary declared was consistent from the first Bush to Clinton to the second Bush?

How did the second Bush cook the intelligence for his predecessor, President Clinton?

By Richard

February 23, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Thanks abc. I guess the next logical question would be, does the existing number of trees supply enough bark, twigs, etc to supply the high demand. Or would there be ever more and more trees chopped down to meet the demand? It just seems that any of the “natural” solutions to reducing the dependance on oil creates another problem. Recently my wife bought a Honda hybrid. The damn thing gets 60 miles a gallon with no reduction in performance. A 144 volt nickel cadmium battery supplements the gasoline engine that acts as the generator for the battery. This vehicle is incredible and that existing technology can be put in any vehicle made. This makes a hell of alot more sense to me than any corn or wood based fuel alternative. Man being man, and human nature being rather predictable, just how long would it take for the corn and wood to become just another system just like the one we have now. Maybe even worse.

By sharkeyextreme

February 23, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Card Carrying Republican, I mostly agreed with what you posted except this -

Any political analyst will tell you that 2 things happened in 06. 1: People voted against Iraq.

That is a common mischacterization by the Left and mainstream media on America’s perception of the Iraq conflict. That 75% stat they toss around like an old coin doesn’t mean what they want you to think it means. Most people in this nation do not, I repeat, not want the US to lose in Iraq. That 75% stat refers to people not liking the way things are currently going in Iraq. There’s a big difference in the way questions are posed and the way the answers are represented. Naturally, the left only presents what they want you to see - through their prism.

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

I’m starting to think that Iraq is irrelevent to our future prosperity here in the USA.

I’m starting to think that Iraq War sells soap and RX, and hand lotion on TV.

The Iraq War is just a reality show. That’s all.

I’m starting to think that our professional army is content to follow orders and sleep quite well with any ideological conflicts about whatever the mission in Iraq is.

Death? Risk and reward. Most dont get killed. Like in traffic. Some poor few unfortunates get killed. Most dont.

So we’re just living the American dream with little side wars here and little fender benders there with no purpose or reason?

Good enough.

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Card Carrying Republican,

If you want to explain why you are a cut and runner, go ahead. Do it for yourself. American people voted for this war and they support it.

War caualties hurt our hearts and we want our sons and daughters home. Citizens of our country have been told over and over by the press, by Democrats and by terrorists, that the whole war is useless. Do not be deceived.

Americans do not like resolutions undermining the troops. If Congress pulls the worst of all precedents, to stop funds, you will see Americans turn on liberals and weak Republicans as traitors. And rightly so.

We voted for this war. We sent our troops. If you want to back track on your promise, don’t explain it to me. It is your conscience.

By Mrs. RepubLady

February 23, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

I thought we got this straight the other day. “Cut and run” is the OLD catch phrase. This month, we’re pushing “slow bleed.” Your sentence should have read, “If you want to explain why you support the democrat’s slow bleed strategy, go ahead.”

Get it straight!

By abc

February 23, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Ethanol is superior to oil in that it’s a renewable resource, whether it’s made from corn, wood and rice by-products, or whatever else. It burns a lot cleaner and isn’t as much of an environmental risk. Current automobiles would run on an 80% ethanol/20% gas mixture, albeit with lesser fuel efficiency, at a greatly reduced price-per-gallon. Gas is currently mixed with ethanol up to 15%, it just isn’t advertised.

By Southern Democrat

February 23, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Van,

Respectfully, this is my major problem with the current administration’s plan (or lack thereof) when dealing with detainees.

You would acknowledge that our legal system (either civilian or military) rests on presumed innocence, right? And that this applies to citizens and non-citizens, alike? And you would acknowledge that the Geneva Conventions were championed by the U.S. and other nations to protect all combatants in war from torture and depraved conduct?

So… the administration (in contravention to the advice they received from JAG lawyers from each branch) decides that detainees, either captured in the field or through “extraordinary rendition” are not subject to any protections, that they can be held indefinitely, and that they are not protected by law, ANY law.

Now… here’s my question:

Are you willing to bet our nation’s honor, our spirit, our credibility, and our system of governance on the word of the CIA, NSA or a bureaucrat in Washington? Because that is what is happening EVERY DAY. The intelligence we have gotten is CRAP, because, SURPRISE, people don’t tell the truth when they have electrodes strapped to their testicles and glass rods broken in their genitalia! They tell you whatever will make you stop doing it.

So now we are left with a shockingly large number of people that exist in a netherworld. We can’t prosecute them because people like John Wu and Bybee think that they aren’t protected by the Geneva Conventions and subject to the military courts. We can’t charge them with a crime… what WAS the point of USA PATRIOT Act if the targets of it aren’t subject to its jurisdiction, by the way? We can’t free them because, whatever their level of hatred of America before, they have now vowed to do whatever it takes to take down a country that allows others to torture people and not have access to a justice system. As one former CIA operative said, “Every day, we are creating generations of jihadists with this system.”

So… nice work, Bush Administration! Every single day you create more terrorists and give them a rallying cry. Thank you for throwing away 230 years of history and precedent. Thank you for discarding our national ethos, built on freedom, justice, and liberty for all, so that you can get bad intelligence from people who might have driven bin Laden from one camp to another after torturing him for 6 months.

Just out of curiosity… if alleged terrorists are so dangerous that we can’t bring them into a courtroom, military or civilian, and anyone that has any contact with bin Laden can be taken into custody indefinitely… WHY WAS BIN LADEN’S FAMILY ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY IN SEPTEMBER 2001? Just curious.

By Van

February 23, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

Dennis,

Where is the connection between Gitmo and the military arresting US citizens?

The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the Federal government to use the military for law enforcement.

Neither of these has been impacted. There is a vast difference between holding a non citizen combatant and a US citizen. BTW, one of the ways to be striped of your US citizenship is to bear arms against the US.

By Play that funky music whiteboy

February 23, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Memo to Jim Wooten: From: Matt Towery and Skin Edge

Thank you for pushing Chip Rogers last week. Now we need to get you to belittle a couple of neophyte Republicans we don’t like - Mike Keown and John Douglas. Not too hard a swipe, we may need them later, just make fun of them. If legislators were voted on every four years instead of two, polling/lobbying/peddling/paying firms like ours would lose 1/2 our income and influence. We can’t have that Jimmy, please remedy.

Also, I still don’t know nothin bout no nudie club dancers.

By abc

February 23, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

As far as the war goes, I think that people need to wise up about the nature of war. People weren’t thinking about it in the brutal terms it warrants before we went into Iraq. War is an atrocity; if you’re not willing to bear responsibility for the atrocity, don’t commit to war. Simple.

3100 dead is NOT a large toll. Compare that to casualty rates in other wars. That statement does NOT minimize the price those men and women paid. They made the ultimate sacrifice.

Was their sacrifice for a worthwhile goal? No. Was their sacrifice in vain? God knows. We CAN’T pull out though, we’ll ALWAYS be there, else Iran will overrun Iraq, if no other reason than to seize the 28,000 barrels per day of oil coming out of each well.

We’ll beat terrorism most effectively by coming up with alternative fuels. If noone is buying oil, then the Middle East goes back to camels and tents, it’s the only resource they have.

By @@

February 23, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

One more question for “Writer’s block” relative to smaller, more vulnerable countries.

Why were the liberals in the U.S. so eagerly in agreement with Hugo, when he called Bush a fascist? Have you checked out what he’s been up to lately? He’s shutting down an aluminum plant in Costa Rica.

“But economic reasons are not Chavez’s true motivation. Instead, he is angered by Costa Rican President Oscar Arias’ recent criticism of Venezuela, in which Arias called Chavez’s regime a “democratic dictatorship” and criticized Chavez’s newly endowed special powers under the Enabling Law.”

“The closure of the Costa Rican plant is one of Chavez’s first forays into punitive diplomacy, and it is not likely to be his last. The move could indicate a shift in his method of dealing with dissent — but only if the dissenter is less powerful than he. The smaller nations of the Caribbean and Central America — almost all of which fall under the Petrocaribe deal — are in this vulnerable category.”

By CardCarryingRepub

February 23, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Card Carrying Republican,

If you want to explain why you are a cut and runner, go ahead. Do it for yourself. American people voted for this war and they support it.

And in 06 they voted against it! What is it that you don’t understand about that? Dollar to a donut hole you would be one the opposition if this were a democrats war. You are the problem in this country Dusty. One of the blind idealogues that places that above the well being of this country. How many more of America’s sons and daughters are you willing to have die because of your ideology or worldview. One that I might add was resoundingly rebuked in November of 06. YOU Dusty are traveling the low road. What a blind squirrel you are Dusty. You will never find a nut will you. But I guess it is true in your case that ignorance is bliss. I am sure that you can sleep so good at night knowing that you “support” those kids that just got blown away while you slept all warm and fuzzily while their next rest is in a body bag. I hope you feel really good about yourself Dusty. You support. They die.

By Th

February 23, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

Many Iraq war supporters would like to frame the issue as “winning” or “losing” but they would be wrong. The end result in Iraq will be a Shia dominated government closely allied with Iran. That is where we are right now in Iraq (SCIRI party head, Hakim, went from his oval office meeting with Bush to Tehran to help celebrate the overthrow of the Shah) and we are fighting to subdue the opponents of this Iranian backed regime. The Prime Minister of Iraq, Maliki, and the head of the largest political party in Iraq, Hakim, both lived in Iran in exile while their political parties, Dawa and SCIRI, were organized, funded and supported by the Iranian clerics. All that is left to be determined is whether we help with the last of the ethnic cleansing or we leave it to the Maliki government. The Kurds will pretend to support the current government in exchange for Kirkuk and its oil. Also to be decided is whether we get our permanent bases or not. Maybe that is why we are still fighting.

The British troops who are leaving were guarding our supply lines from Kuwait and the oil terminals in Basra. Southeastern Iraq is now controlled by the Shia supported by Iran. Remember that picture of the people in Vietnam trying to get into the last helicopter? We think we can just pack up and leave any time we want, but how long before we have to fight our way out? “Newsweek” interviewed Gen. Petraeus’s brain trust as to what the “surge” is really all about. Not comforting.

For those who think it would be a disaster for us to leave Iraq, ponder this. What would Ronald Reagan have been able to do economically and against the Soviets if we still had 200,000 soldiers in Vietnam spending 10’s of billions a year in 1981 when he took office?

By CardCarryingRepub

February 23, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

sharkeyextreme, you have a point with the war aspect. But I will tell you straight up. I voted against the right wing of the republican party. To me, they are the biggest threat to freedom in this country today. And obviously what happened in 06 was largely due to the rest of us sending a message to this would be “taliban”. When the republican party moves back to its core beliefs and more toward center I will pull straight ticket once again. There is obviously a reason that the more fringe candidates on the republican side of the ledger that have declared themselves candidates in 08 have not a snowballs chance in hell of being nominated for the presidency. Mainstream republicans do not want to be associated in any way form or fashion with the lunatic right wing of the party.

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Card Carrying former Republican,

No, it is not ignorance to support your country in war time. We are still in a war we voted for and that has not changed. It was an American promise to its citizens and to the Iraqis.

Some Republicans thought they were getting something different in 2006 but what they got was a weak kneed resolution to undermine troop morale. If you think that is the way to get our troops home safe and sound, I disagree with you. Our enemies love it.

This an American war, not Democratic or Republican. If you do not support it, just say you are an antiwar protestor and don’t blame it on politics.

As I said, explain it to your own conscience, not to me. Better explain your lack of support to our troops also. They might think you are against them.

By Dennis

February 23, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

“By Van February 23, 2007 11:01 AM Dennis, Where is the connection between Gitmo and the military arresting US citizens?”

“The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the Federal government to use the military for law enforcement.

“Neither of these has been impacted. There is a vast difference between holding a non citizen combatant and a US citizen. BTW, one of the ways to be striped of your US citizenship is to bear arms against the US.”

Actually, I did not mean to include that last comment.

My intent was to call for responsible journalism from Mr. Wooten who apparently wants us to trust the government without question, in particular the Bush administration and its handling of “the war on terror” which can include holding American citizens without charges or trial.

That IS irresponsible!

As to these; “The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act”, it’s taken me a minute to find this, but I think you’ll find it interesting;

“In a defence budget bill signed into law in October of 2006, provisions were inserted which heavily modify Posse Comitatus, rendering it null with presidential approval. Criticism has been scarce but harsh. Posse comitatus is now null in cases of natural disaster, disease outbreak, terrorist attack, or “any other condition.

“This arguably destroys the original act outright, particularly in the context of a war on terror that is indefinite in nature.”

In short, anything Bush/government/military deems “indefinite in nature” can get an American citizen arrested and held without trial. Whether it’s one citizen or more is immaterial.

If we follow Jim Wooten’s logic, we might as well have no constitution. In fact, we wouldn’t.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By William Fielder

February 23, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

We won the war and achieved victory by defeating the Iraqi military in 2+ weeks in 2003. Does anyone remember? We then spent the next 3 years bumbling away the victory without a plan—mainly because we got entrapped in a “kinder, gentler” frame of mind. Now we must eliminate the opposition to a (hopefully) evenhanded Iraqi government and go home. It won’t be pretty, but it is necessary if Iraq is to survive. If Iran tries to impede us they must not succeed. We have a score to settle with them after they stormed our embassy and in Teheran and held our people hostage. (Remember that one?) They did not recognize our territorial rights in Teheran, so we are under no obligation to recognize their property or personnel in Iraq. Go get em! whf.

By JP

February 23, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Van, yes—the same “intel” that Clinton somehow didn’t feel the need to start a war over. THAT intelligence.

Which reminds me: The issue is not whether or not people believed he had weapons. There were differences of opinion, and many people were wrong. The issue is that in the Clinton years, we held Iraq in check without invading.

It was the current administration that decided to invade, for better or worse, depending on “Shock and Awe” to keep us from needing more than roughly 125,000 troops—and with Rumsfeld threatening to fire anyone writing plans beyond the scope of 6 months. I don’t need to recap how profoundly wrong that gamble has turned out.

By Brian Curtis

February 23, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Dusty, you never learn. Once again you’re back to “The American people voted for this war in 2003…”

Yes, and we voted against it in 2006. So the “voice of the people” only matters when it agrees with you?

By Van

February 23, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

JP,

You must be reading things that do not exists. It was Clinton’s policy that first decided to rid the world of Saddam.

That policy was based upon the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act (P.L. 105-338), which stated, “It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime.” This policy was unanimously approved by the Senate and strongly supported by the Clinton administration.

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Well, Jim Wooten,

You’ve got your nerve. Running off to tickle your toes in the Caribbean and to lollygag in the sun. How can you do this to us?

Now I don’t know about Mike King but he better be thinking right. I shall certainly be checking to see that he doesn’t wander.

Have a good time! I am deserting for the day but only to enjoy the lovely sunlit environs of Atlanta. Enjoy!!

By 2Timesthere

February 23, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Dusty I asm going back to Iraq for the 2nd time and I can tell you with no reservation that 99.9% of the guys there want out anyway we can be gotten out. Yes, we will fight until we can come home again. But it’s not so you can feel all good about yourself. We ain’t fighting for any other reason than to come home to our familys again if we are lucky enough to survive. Go with me Dusty! Walk the streets with me and my buddies. Take the risk that we are taking for the 2nd and 3rd time. And when you get crapped away by some IED and take that dirt nap you have no problem with others taking than you can feel all good about yourself. The only support I want from you Dusty is not the support you seem to pride yourself on. That support you can stick where the sun don’t shine.

By jm

February 23, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

William Fielder@11;35 - “An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind”.

We did not respect Iran’s soveriegnty when we (and Britain) overthrew a democratically elected (nationialist) government and replaced it with the shah in 1953 either. BTW, that one was for oil.

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Poor ol Brian Curtis,

Still singing his antiwar song. We all voted for the war in 2003. A few more Democratic politicians got elected to Congress in 2006. That was not the war fortunately because what is coming out of Congress now is really scary. A resolution to NOT support the troops. Yeah. Way to go. Democrats showed their true colors right away. What losers.

Adios, amigos.

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

After Desert Storm, Americans wondered why 41 didn’t capture the entire Republican Guard and Saddam and depose him. I analyzed that the reason was Iran. We needed a good army to counter the Iranians. I was satisfied with that. That was wrong. 41 knew about the 10K year old feud called “The Mesopotamians and the McCoys” which is the ancient form of the modern sectartian feuding we now see.

you see, Iraq is a subset of larger feuds that are both ethinic and sectarian, that is, racial and ideological.

So any solution on one plane will be non binding on the other, and that’s why this mesopotamian feud survived 10K years.

41 knew this. What’s worse? That 43 did know it too, or that he didn’t know it?

The ancient tribal feud that is the story of mankind lives in Iraq. We may as well try to solve the god/devil thing in the bible, which is even older, oh, I’d say about 43 quint-quadrillion years old.

Bush: “I invaded hell, cause lucifer is a bad man, and he tried to kill the holy ghost. Limbo and purgatory are safer now that we’re trying to establish a dogma that is self sustaining, self ordaining, and an ally in the war against the devil…..”

By Chuck

February 23, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

William Felder,

See CJ’s comment about Iran at 10:13. One shouldn’t make the observation that the Iranians didn’t recognize our territorial rights in 1979 without also mentioning that we didn’t recognize the rights of the Iranian people to choose their leaders in the 1950’s. Cause and effect.

By jm

February 23, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Van@11:46 - I guess you overlooked the “support efforts” part of that statement. I see nothing there stating that the it is the policy of the United States “to remove”.

Basically diplomatic word parsing but a surprising amount of our tax dollars are used just for that purpose.

By Dennis

February 23, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

By Dusty February 23, 2007 11:33 AM

“No, it is not ignorance to support your country in war time. We are still in a war we voted for and that has not changed…This an American war, not Democratic or Republican.”

Certainly, yours is a Bush style thinking; in 2004, Bush claimed a “mandate” because the “Republican” party maintained a congressional superiority.

In 2006, Bush no longer had that “mandate”, yet still, by doing a little slipping here and a little sliding there, claims he still does as also do you; “This an American war, not Democratic or Republican.”

Come on, get real, this is a Bush war pure and simple and the congress, (republicans and democrats) has sat on its a* allowing Bush to use the American military like it’s his own private army.

Iraq is a hell hole right now all because of the unfettered ambitions of a goddamed fool named George W. Bush.

You don’t have to be a blind conservataive not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By JP

February 23, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Van, 11:46 - I see nothing that insists there be military “efforts” in that phrasing. Diplomatic and political pressure is a form of effort, that was paying dividends. Once again, who was President when our forces went in to remove Saddam? WHO MADE THAT DECISION, and who holds PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for the outcome?

Chuck @ 11:59: “we didn’t recognize the rights of the Iranian people to choose their leaders in the 1950’s. Cause and effect.” Let’s not forget The British and Americans’ creation of Israel in part of British Palestine. Al Qaeda hasn’t.

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

What is the mission as of this moment of our troops in Iraq?

Has the surge already morphed into something else? Is it just now “patrol and see what happens”?

Are we patrolling more frequently in new areas with more troops and everyone of the IRaqis is just going about their daily lives with americans passing through and amoung them looking for weapons or suspicious characters or just trolling for snipers, or wandering into roadside bombs with their limited range to be any threat to the USA at home?

Is the answer to all war questions, “Lets wait and see if this new plan works?”

There will be more new plans. Should we always just wait and see if they work or not?

Wait and see if this new strategy works, I mean, come on, really. The liberals are unfair to ask for reasons or methods or plans, cause they never wait to see if what we’re doing is working or not, you know, Cheney knows a guy who drove for seven hours without being killed in Iraq.

Wait and see. Drive around more.

Dont ask questions or expect any answers other than wait and see if this new plan works.

It’s a new plan. I cant give away the details of the new plan or the terrorists will listen to me and use it to win.

If cheney gives away any more answers than what he gives us, then the terrorists win.

We dont want the terrorists or the enemy or the bad guys to win.

We want to win. Winning is everything.

How will we know we won? When cheney knows a guy who can drive around for eight hours without being killed in Iraq.

By lovelyliz

February 23, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Hank Williams Jr., divorcing his fourth wife, declares it “one of the toughest days of my life.” Shouldn’t that be “one of the four toughest days of my life”?

But at least he’s not a homosexual, right?

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Creating Israel was a big thing for the doomsday predictors.

By jbmlaw

February 23, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Dear Writer’s block @ 10:31, your maxim is that each truly thinks the opposite of whatever he says? I have often thought that the animating philosophy of leftists, thanks for confirmation. If I take your affirmation at face value, does that mean I don’t trust you?

Dear CCR @ 10:31, the flaw in your analysis is that mostly “moderate” republicans lost in 2006, and it was mostly democrats who projected themselves as conservatives who won. Extraordinarily few socialists were elected in the democrat swing, although the effect of voting moderate democrats was to empower the moonbats. Any honest observer would have to concede that the national democrats had no platform at all, merely ran as know-nothings. Thus were elected with no plan for anything. I appreciate that your sentiment is to attempt to return the Republican to the party that had no core beliefs and consistently lost elections, i.e., 1976, when the Establishment Republicans ran the show. My libertarian republicans and our allies, the Christian Right, will resist your blandishments.

Dear jm @ 10:44, you may be right – it’s even possible the evil Islamists would cut off the heads of soldiers unfortunate enough to be captured if we don’t let them file suits in our courts. Minor correction, yellowcake is in Niger (that is their only product, nationwide – Joe Wilson revealed for us all that Saddam’s minions were admittedly there on a trade mission, but said the nation’s president promised it was not in search of yellowcake. Probably wanted the tuki-tuki bird concession.) Evidently I am less enthusiastic than you about mullahs with nukes, as I think bombing would be a good start.

Dear Dennis @ 10:45, not only can the military “arrest any American citizen it wants under any trumped up charge it wants to and any time it wants to e.g. even protesting,” they can also shoot to kill any American stupid enough to be on the other side of the battlefield. Perhaps we ought to require a motion in court before we allow a soldier to discharge his weapon. You don’t have to be ignorant to be a leftist, but it helps.

Dear Southern @ 11:00, you reasonably ask, “are you willing to bet our nation’s honor, our spirit, our credibility, and our system of governance on the word of the CIA, NSA or a bureaucrat in Washington?” I would add to your list, “Federal judges.” I am far more comfortable betting on the honor of our noble military than that of any political or judicial entity. I think I disagree with your history lesson – I don’t think POWs captured and housed outside the US have a long history of jurisprudence.

Dear CCR @ 11:14, you have it screwed-up – we don’t send soldiers to die, we send them to kill, to make the rest of us safer. Your flawed assumption distorts the rest of your analysis, although I think analysis is a good idea in your case.

Dear TH @ 11:16, I understand leftists always want to believe the worst about people, but I think those with purple fingers will not submit to an Islamist dictatorship – democracy is infectious. And a better observation about Reagan is, “imagine what he could have accomplished against the enemies of the US if he had not had leftists opposing every effort.”

Dear WHF @ 11:35, well-argued. I wish I had written that essay.

By ALABAMA

February 23, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

The American people should have seen all this coming when Dick Cheney’s name went on the 2000 ticket. That guy has to be the anti-christ. A 5 deferment warmonger. Imagine that. Why is it that the biggest hawks in the flock are the ones that get to stay behind.

By Cletus Snow

February 23, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

If hank is divorcing his fourth wife is it still news? after 4 it’s just stupidity, not news. We were at the Peabody Hotel a while back and the buzz was all about Hank Jr. choking a waitress there a few says earlier that he was arrested for, what was the outcome of that violent outburst. I’m almost positive he bought his way out of that,the rich celebreties always do.

By Jackie

February 23, 2007 01:03 PM | Link to this

The Chicken Haws are still talking loud and saying nothing! They have no hesitation about sending someone else to fight and possibly die for their purported duty, honor, country maxim. When do they get in line, raise their hand and step forward to volunteer to uphold the creed they think everyone else should adhere to. If these folks were to join the fight, we would not have a problem with our military being literally broken.
The “islomo-terrorists” would know that we have a military full of “Rambos” and they would immediately surrender. For all of us that has walked the walk instead of talking the talk, I urge all of the Chicken Hawks to immediately run to the recruiting office; your country NEEDS YOU!!!!!!

By Th

February 23, 2007 01:16 PM | Link to this

JBM, the Iraqis have already voted for an Islamist government. The parties who received the most purple fingers were the Islamic Daawa Party of Jaafari and Maliki and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq led by Hakim. Both parties were formed from Shia exiles living in Iran. The Daawa party actually fought on the side of Iran against Iraq and was involved in the bombing of our embassy in Kuwait. I wonder if Bush asked him about that at their grip and grin in the White House?

By lovelyliz

February 23, 2007 01:17 PM | Link to this

Maybe the 3 strikes law should apply to divorce?

By jm

February 23, 2007 01:19 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw@12:42 - my error, I believe Mr. Wooten’s comment about Nigeria was still in my head. While for some (hopefully they are among the ones detained in Guantanamo), there is no hole deep enough or dark enough to keep them in, even they have some rights. They should have some venue where they can challenge their status under the ideals and values we are supposedly trying to instill in the middle east. The military courts, while a good start, still have a lot to be desired.

Also, since President Bush (and all Presidents before him) have fallen short in the “all knowing” category, I feel very reluctant to give him (and his successors - possibly Hillary Clinton) the unchecked powers he desires.

By Th

February 23, 2007 01:20 PM | Link to this

JBM, if democracy is so infectious, why are some of us so willing to give it up for security?

By JK

February 23, 2007 01:24 PM | Link to this

Info to support comments this morning about the administration favoring business over consumers: Bush To Nominate Anti-Regulatory Industry Lobbyist To Head Consumer Protection Agency

Ask not for whom your government works; it doesn’t work for YOU! (Of course, this is a “lefty” link, so if someone wants to refute the cited data about Mr. Baroody’s work experience, please go for it.)

By IntheDust

February 23, 2007 01:27 PM | Link to this

Dusty should did cut and run when that soldier going back to Iraq again told her where she could stick her support. It’s about time that happened in here.

By jbmlaw

February 23, 2007 01:46 PM | Link to this

Dear Th @ 1:20, you suggest something outside my sphere of knowledge: who gave up his right to vote in exchange for security?

Dear JK @ 1:24, thanks, excellent news, the first sign of an intelligent economic move by the Bush administration since the tax cuts. Of course I would prefer to see him abolish the Consumer Protection Agency, but that will await election of one of Mr. Wooten’s true conservatives.

By Th

February 23, 2007 01:51 PM | Link to this

And as for Reagan, maybe he would have sold lots more weapons to the Iranians and trained many more death squads in Central America. Who do you think makes up the kidnapping and drug rings down there?

What Reagan would not have been able to do is cut taxes and concentrate on defeating the Soviets.

By Th

February 23, 2007 01:57 PM | Link to this

The AJC vent has been full of comments along the line of “You can tap my phone if it will keep the terrorists from killling me.” While that is not giving up your vote, it certainly takes away the transparency of a government of, for and by the people. We can all vote for a dictatorship, but is it still a democracy?

By Southern Democrat

February 23, 2007 02:11 PM | Link to this

Jbmlaw,

I’m not quite sure I understand what you mean. I would hope you would agree that persons detained by a nation-state must either be prosecuted criminally or held as prisoners of war. If the latter, they are protected by the laws of war and the Geneva Conventions. The Bush Administration’s continual refusal to acknowledge this simple fact is undermining our ability to successfully protect our country as we are sacrificing our national identity and achieving ZERO returns.

By JK

February 23, 2007 02:14 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, how nice to know you favor a car company’s right to increase profits by using a cheaper gas tank that explodes into a fireball when the car is rear-ended at 40 mph. Perhaps by the time you have grandchildren, this will be a reality again. I’m sure your free-market-justice philosphy will comfort the families when these types of “accidents” become prevalent again. Please do show up at the funerals and share your clever observations!

By melo

February 23, 2007 02:29 PM | Link to this

What war?, ‘MISSION IS LONG ACCOMPLISHED” President DUMB.

By jbmlaw

February 23, 2007 02:39 PM | Link to this

Dear Southern @ 2:11, apologies for my confusing language, but I am contemplating the instance where a non-uniformed combatant is caught. The traditional rules authorize execution of such combatants after a field trial. The Bush administration philosophy has been to question them rather than kill them, and I doubt much useful information has been obtained. Best current example, the son of the Iraqi warlord who was captured returning from Iran ought to be executed in the next 24 hours. That may discourage some undesirable activity.

Dear JK @ 2:14, you foolishly assume that your government protects you. It merely increases your living expenses, twice: (1) as CPA dictates unnecessary higher expenses for your manufacturer (do you really believe air bags save the lives of anyone other than those people too drunk to fasten their seat belts? The 5’3” Mrs. jbmlaw is at physical risk, due to the unforeseen consequence of the evil act by the CPA); and (2) somebody’s taxes pay for the insanity disseminated from DC.

By Kinder ,Gentler Doom

February 23, 2007 02:48 PM | Link to this

I just wanted to wish Melo and everyone else here a Happy Black History Month.

By Frank

February 23, 2007 03:04 PM | Link to this

Hey Wooten, you dumb cluck, zero $$ is not a wage, much less a minimum one. I get the attempt at humor but it was really stupid. I am pleased to know that you think slavery should be reinstated. Just as I thought you would.

By Kinder ,Gentler Doom

February 23, 2007 03:09 PM | Link to this

Frank,

Hey jacka$$. Don’t be so quick to make harsh accusations like you just did at Wooten. You know it was out of humor so lighten up.

Don’t have to guess what race you belong to.

By Van

February 23, 2007 03:22 PM | Link to this

Southern Democrat,

What is your take as to the rights granted to prisoners taken in combat? Remember, the terrorists are not signers of the Geneva Convention, do not have uniforms or symbols to identify themselves as combatants.

What do you think their rights are?

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 03:31 PM | Link to this

Inthedust @1:27, You’re as cute as a button, aren’t you? All that nasty language from a little fellow like you.

So, somebody doesn’t want to return to Iraq? What’s new? I never heard of a soldier that did not want to return home and stay there. Fortunately for us, they do the job wherever it is. My thanks to them for their honorable service.

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 03:53 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

Please do not apologize to Southern Democrat. Your voice was crystal clear about prisoners. Surely you know by now that SouDem would not even like his mother’s cooking if Bush could be associated with it.

Rules of war went out with IEDs, beheadings and suicide bombers. We are following this one sided affair of law but SouDem does not like even that. After all, according to SouDem, Bush did it so what’s to like?

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 03:56 PM | Link to this

And just what IS the mission of US troops in Iraq, now?

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 03:59 PM | Link to this

The mission. I will know what it is. The mission of US troops in Iraq. You will tell me now what is it?

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

By Magneto

February 23, 2007 03:59 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Nice to see that you endorse breaking the law. I’m sure glad you’re not a police officer.

By Writer's block

February 23, 2007 04:04 PM | Link to this

No one dares venture a mission anymore, not even Cheney, instead they’ve replaced the mission statement with “if the liberals dont support the troops then they’re letting the terrorists win.”

Also, Cheney is good with vague platitudes about “the enemy”, as yet undefined.

What is going on in Iraq? really.

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 04:18 PM | Link to this

Oh Magneto,

You got me!!! I endorse breaking the law. I have gone 75 mph on the expressway.

But somehow, about those terrorists,I just thought they were out to kill us.

Maybe you are right. Those kindly terrorists wouldn’t hurt a flea. We should give them tea and cookies and everything would be fine. Now, when does the next Liberal Appeasers Group meet?

By harold

February 23, 2007 04:22 PM | Link to this

the current US administration ought to be proof enough that we neednt concern ourselves too much over a madman at the button

if dubya doesnt do it in the name of Jesus before he is out of office, nobody’s going to do it.

he’s the craziest and stupidest sack of sheet to lead any country in quite a while

mahmumajad the leader of iran looks 100% rational and sane in comparison to our glorious leader

By Magneto

February 23, 2007 04:26 PM | Link to this

Musty,

We meet tomorrow at 2pm.

By Dr.Doom

February 23, 2007 04:28 PM | Link to this

harold,

Why don’t you go back to shoe shining you worthless piece of tapeworm!!

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 04:42 PM | Link to this

Well, it is almost closing time.

Before I go I wish to award Writer’s block the highest award given in the blogosphere; the Blockhead Award. None others have surpassed Writer’s block in cranial density and rigorous repetition. Congratulations!

By Southern Democrat

February 23, 2007 04:42 PM | Link to this

Van,

The whole point of the debate is not what the terrorists are, but who WE are. I think this is where the Bush Administration has done the gravest harm. President Bush & V.P. Cheney’s comments in the aftermath of 9/11 made for good copy and certainly added to the bloodlust that we all felt after we were attacked, but have been extremely damaging to our global reputation and our (heretofore unmatched) stance in the moral highground. Power is lost when the knowledge of how and when to use it is diminished.

Based upon your theory, Van, should we kill innocent civilians because the terrorists did so? Should we start sending suicide bombers into markets because the terrorists do?

Jbmlaw,

Forgive me for oversimplifying, but I would respond as follows. War is seen as an evil on the earth that is sometimes necessary and forgives that most terrible sin of murder both legally and morally. Thus, killing someone in a war who is trying to kill you is justified. Once someone throws up his or her hands and says, “I give up,” we are supposed to overcome our baser instincts and not pull the trigger.

If you think someone is plotting to kill civilians, it is a crime and the person must face the judicial system. If you think an organization is plotting to attack our country, it is a war and our military is tasked with defending us with force until the threat subsides.

So, the person without a uniform in our gunsights who seems to intend to do harm to us? Either shoot him, take him prisoner, or charge him with a crime. There is no other way. And if he is taken prisoner, he must be granted the protections of the Geneva Conventions and, inter alia, access to the Red Cross, not because of who he is, but because of who WE ARE.

By C.W. Odessa

February 23, 2007 04:44 PM | Link to this

I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody as stupid as Van and Dusty. No amount of facts or reason or death or destruction or injustice can overcome their obvious disgust for anybody that isn’t white or white-like, middle class, Christian (so-called) and, in Dusty’s case, Southern.

If Bush sends troops to war, it must have been the right decision. If Bush detains somebody in Guantanomo, he must be guilty. If a poor black kid is given a draconian sentence for a ridiculous crime, he must have deserved it. If you express support for a Democrat, you must not pay taxes. If you say you’re against the war in Iraq, then you’re committing an act of sedition. If you’re bilingual, then you’re destroying our culture.

I mean to tell you, these two are as simple-minded as they come. Van is a man-child, and I refuse to believe that Dusty is any older than eleven or twelve. They have no analytical ability whatsoever and have zero capacity for empathy. They’ve made embarrassing themselves a daily ritual, and I almost feel sorry for them. Almost.

By Dr.Doom

February 23, 2007 04:50 PM | Link to this

C.W.Odessa,

Please stop. Your mindless racial rants are giving me a migraine.

Stop whining and get a job!

By Dusty

February 23, 2007 04:59 PM | Link to this

C.W. Odessa,

I hate to tell you but you are a bigot.

You have drawn prejudice where there is none.

You have disavowed the Congress of the United States and the Commander-in-Chief.

You have fabricated accusations without facts.

You have gotten everything wrong including age and language. I am bi-lingual if you call Latin a language. My son-in-law says I’m pretty good at Spanish.

Go out in the sunshine and get some fresh air, C.W. You need it.

By Van

February 23, 2007 05:18 PM | Link to this

C.W. Odessa,

Dear ignorant one,

Yes, Bush did send troops to Iraq, but he did so with the consent and support of Congress. As a democracy, we trust our representatives to do the right thing. In this case, Congress gave Bush authority on two different occasions, Fist was on Sept. 18th 2001, to fight terrorist wherever they are, and the second time was for the Iraq war, Oct 16th, 2002. Both times the resolution were passed in both houses of Congress.

Either Congress was swayed by Bush’s brilliance or the weight of evidence. If Bush did lie then Congress was a fool not to looking it and impeach Bush.

Under our system of laws, everything was done correctly. In the 14 month run up to the outbreak of War, the UN agreed with the President.

Based on this, I can only say that you have not reached beyond your twenties and never served in uniform. You appear to have a low to mid range IQ and a low education level of achievement.

Personally, I would send you back home to mommy.

By Killin' Time

February 23, 2007 05:29 PM | Link to this

Dusty and Van,

You have just proved Odessa’s assertions.

By Van

February 23, 2007 05:46 PM | Link to this

Killin’ Time,

If Odessa made any assertions, they were vapid or lacked any clarity to be of any use. He expressed, poorly, his opinion. In this he is welcomed to do so.

When he/she expresses their opinion I would hope they have done a little research on the subject matter, unless they do not mind coming off looking like a buffoon.

By Dennis

February 23, 2007 05:48 PM | Link to this

By Van February 23, 2007 05:18 PM said; “Either Congress was swayed by Bush’s brilliance or the weight of evidence. If Bush did lie then Congress was a fool not to looking it and impeach Bush.”

Having served in uniform (You imply you have) I will say your second statement is more likely than your first.

The past six plus years have shown the sorriest damned Congress this nation has ever had; Republicans all falling into line out of loyalty to the party rather than to the best interests of the country, and the democrats wringing their hands saying “Woe is me, woe is me.

And in both cases all of them supported the war because they were more worried about getting re-elected than about letting this country go to hell in a handbasket.

The congress went along for the pure and simple political reason that they too, thought this war would be a “slam dunk” and the present mess was not supposed to happen.

Well, you see what happens when party loyalty is more important than the American people and their country.

I think the term is “s** happens”, and in the case of attacking Iraq, it has.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 08:05 AM | Link to this

Why are you liberals such blood thirsty murdering freaks?:

Minneapolis —- A scientific panel says a 2002 study that suggested adult stem cells might be as useful as embryonic ones was flawed and its conclusions may be wrong, a finding that raises questions about the promise of a less controversial source for stem cells.-Atlanta Urinal

Bullsh-it. Absolute, unprovable, utter Bullsh-it.

I dare any of you pinko liberals to name ONE embryonic stem cell success.

Just one.

[A third spinal cord injury patient, Melissa Holley, is another individual who experienced the wonders of non-embryonic medical treatment. An 18-year-old from Ridgway, Colorado, Holley’s spinal cord was severed in a car crash on June 25, 2000. Her physicians offered her no gleam of hope for the future and stated that, in all probability, she would not walk again. Her family looked into various treatments and found one offered in Tel Aviv, Israel, by a company called Proneuron Biotechnologies Ltd. The operation was headed by Dr. Valentine Fulga and Dr. Nachshon Knoller. The procedure involves macrophages, adult immune cells that possess remarkable healing properties. After being injected with her own cells, she regained bladder control and arm and leg movement.

That^^ was taken from a page packed full of examples from adult stem cells.

I’m still waiting on the page from you ghouls.

Never mind what a foul disgusting pig creature would end another life to prolong his, isn’t this just so typical of what you’d expect from a liberal?

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By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 08:19 AM | Link to this

OK to teach gay marriage, judge rule A federal judge in Boston threw out a lawsuit filed by parents who wanted to keep their young children from learning about gay marriage in school. U.S. District Judge Mark Wolf said federal courts have decided in other cases that parents’ rights to exercise their religious beliefs are not violated when their children are exposed to contrary ideas in school. Schools are “entitled to teach anything that is reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens,” Wolf said in his ruling. Tonia and David Parker of Lexington, Mass., sued after their 5-year-old son brought home a book from kindergarten that depicted a family led by a gay couple. Another couple joined the suit after a second-grade teacher read the class a fairy tale about two princes falling in love. Yay! Mark Foley and “reverend” Haggard in love! Yay!-Atlanta Urinal

Further proof of what a freakshow the public education system has become, the liberals aren’t finished dragging us to the bottom by any means.

I’ll bet no one has to be taught about normal relations between a man and a woman, by the time a kid is 12 years old they’ve already figured most of that out on their own.

Because it comes to them naturally.

What you freakshow liberals are doing is teaching our kids what is unnatural, something the vast majority would not ever even consider.

Why?

So that the one freak that it does come naturally to doesn’t feel bad about himself?

We’re going to turn every kid in the country into a freak so that we don’t hurt the feelings of one freak?

Schools full of Mark Foleys and “reverend” Haggards? Is that what you’re shooting for?

Sick, sick, sick.

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By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 08:24 AM | Link to this

Link to 8:05^^ Adult stem cell success

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 08:27 AM | Link to this

PUBLIC EDITOR: Coverage of controversial Carter book slow, reactionary By Angela Tuck The Atlanta Urinal

So the Al Jazeera Constipation would have found Hitler’s views to be “reactionary?”

No kidding a 20 paragraph, non editorial tip toeing around the fact that Jimmy Carter is a vicious back stabbing anti Semite.

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By Markus

February 24, 2007 08:30 AM | Link to this

WD-

Now you know why I call the horseass liberals sick. They are diseased. They are hell bent on destroying the fabric of this nation’s social structure (the traditional family) and replacing it with some neoStalinist fantasyland cesspool of freaks.

Instead of spending time on teaching our kids things like history and civics, our worthless government schools are teaching such wonderful, awe-inspiring subjects like gay marriage and putting bananas on condoms. But, in all fairness, that article did reference A*achussetts. Nothing suprises me coming out of that liberal hellhole. Sickassed liberals.

By Ethic RIGHT

February 24, 2007 08:36 AM | Link to this

WootenDull, great post. The sickening acceptance of this lifestyle must end. This is the only reason I HATE the vice President. Him and his family of sickos are truly perverting the American population. They are bringing babies into this and accepting this lifestyle.

Its time for this to stop. Cheney has much more influence on people than Mass. does. Cheney has a national stage.

When his daughter’s baby is born they should yank it out of her arms and turn it over to a traditional family. Then the VP should quit.

Its all about the values.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 08:39 AM | Link to this

As soon as “Picking a Sheriff 101” stops becoming picking a candidate solely on race, perhaps Fultoon and Clayton counties could learn something about thinking outside the racial glass house. The same goes for “Chocolate City” New Orleans, but that’s another topic.

Funny how all the Northeast and Loon West coast limolibs want us to go corn, yet don’t want a thing to do with the Red states that produces it. Just once I’d like to see someone from Iowa tell the Al “global Jet-A burning” Sore and Nancy “flyover redstates” Pelosivich to: “Grow your own damned corn and shove it in your tank!” Man-made global warming is turning into the left’s de-culto religion. Finally they can say they have a religion even if it’s still based upon man. All I need to know is that the left supports it and the right doesn’t support it (that MAN is predominately causing global warming anyway).

It is already proven that farm animal flatulence contributes to global warming, deep sea thermal vents contribute to it, volcanoes contribute to it, and solar activity contributes to it. I’m sorry, but one-seventh of one degree in one century just isn’t enough for me to go crying to the UN Mommy ala Kyoto (of which China and India wouldn’t be a part of considering their old hooptie cars pollute more than our newest Tahoes, not to mention their non-EPA standard factories… go figure). I don’t want those environazi fascists telling me how many times I can go to the toilet per day, that I can’t have a fire in my fireplace, what I can’t cook on my stove, what kind of toilet paper I need to buy, and what kind of clothes to wear. I don’t want the environazis telling GM, Ford, and Daimler-Chrysler that they can’t make a vehicle that averages less than 40mpg, and that Georgia Pacific can’t release more than 10 tons of waste per day in paper production. To hell with them.

Hey, last year according to the earthbats we were supposed to have a massive hurricane season due to global warming, just like global warming wiped out New Orleans during Katrina (that Bush & Halliburton caused). But hark? What’s that? Not ONE hurricane hit US shores last year? Not ONE? Well I have yet to have one liberal ‘splain to me how in the hell we can know that mankind is actually causing the earth’s overall weather pattern to change when we can’t even freaking forecast a HURRICANE season, let alone when and where it’s exactly going to rain at any given time. Then of course we have the liberal environazis who are trying to get international laws passed to jail anyone who doesn’t believe that man is causing global warming. And these jackals on the left call Conservatives fascists? Pathetic.

So Georgia’s tech colleges are showing a decline in student enrollment. I wonder if this is because nobody seems to want to learn a trade anymore like plumbing, HVAC, and electrical work? It seems to me lots of our head-in-the-clouds youth want to either go to a university and hope to make $100,000 right out of college or become a music star, pro sports jock, or the next great actress. I also wonder how much of that decline is contributed to the cap on HOPE credits that dual-enrolled high school students can use at vocational-technical colleges. With all that said, it’s no wonder we are raising an entire generation of idiots.

Cheney said it best of the Surrendercrats when he said they are “validating al Qaeda.” Poor old Pelosivich couldn’t handle that “toss-back” and called the White House to protest (and only got the chief staffer.. HAH!). Waaahhh! But the most hypocritical flatulence that came from Pelosivich was when she said Cheney’s comments were “beneath the dignity of the debate we’re engaged in and a disservice to our men and women in uniform.”

Is that so? What the hell does the RAT pack think it’s been tossing OUT for over three years? Was it NOT beneath the dignity of debate and a disservice to our armed forces when Dick “Turban” Durbin compared our soldiers to Nazis and Russian Gulags? Is it NOT beneath the dignity of debate and a disservice to our armed forces when the RAT pack constantly beats the “Bush lied, soldiers died” drum when knowing damn full well most of them voted for war authority and there was no intentional LIE told by Bush? Was it NOT beneath the dignity of debate and a disservice to our armed forces when Ted “drunk Olds U-boat commander wannabe” Kennedy got up on the pulpit and said the war in Iraq is a failed policy and it was “lie after lie after lie” when our troops are still freaking OVER there? What the hell is WRONG with the Party Of The Permanently Miserable? GOD they make me sick.

Delta flights to Nigeria? What happened? Did Jessie “corporate shakedown” Jackboot threaten to stage a boycott because there weren’t enough African nations representing Delta’s international routes? I wonder what all those pirates off the coast of Nigeria who attack Western ships are going to do NOW. ‘Scuse me while I make a mad dash to Expedia.com. I can’t wait to check out the Four Star restaurants and Five Star hotels there. Hey, maybe I can get on one of those Nigerian automobile purchase plans and bring back a Nigerian car with me ala BMW from Germany. What cars are made in Nigeria? I gotta check that out.

So Iran ditched Wednesday’s UN deadline? I am so shocked. ‘Scuse me while I pick my mandible up off the floor. How dare they! Talk. More talks. Some more talks. Talk talk talk. Resolution after resolution. Line after line drawn and redrawn and re-redrawn and re-re-redrawn. Oh to hell with 17 more violated UN resolutions ala Iraq. This time around, let’s just let Iran have their nukes, sell them to islamoterrorist fascists, watch them wipe out Israel, and eventually take out a few cities in Europe and the UK before taking a few of our cities out (San Freaksicko first please islamogoons). After all, that’s a small price to pay for “peace at any cost”… at least according to liberal Surrendercrats like Cindy Sheephead and Hollywoodhead goons from the Left coast. There was an MSN article the other day titled, “What if Hollywood ran America.” Well, there’s your answer. That would be this nation and the world according to a sickness of being a non-real-world candyass in the reality disease of liberalism.

So, the Gitmo Resort islamoterrorist guests can’t have access to US courts. Ain’t that just a damned shame. What a HUGE loss for Abscessnity International, the liberal Defeatocrats in Washington, and the liberal Hollywoodheads on the Left coast. Of course, these assclown liberals just don’t understand that this is a WAR we are dealing with and not some bank-robbing criminals for deciding jurisdiction. Freaking defeatist idiots. Sick.

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 08:47 AM | Link to this

Markus: What’s even better, they teach this crap to our kids, shoving it down their throats 24/7 on TV, in advertising, every where you look, but when they catch a “Conservative” like Ted Haggard or Jeff Gannon listening to them they’ll parade that as-s around like it committed crimes against humanity or something.

How convenient is that, go into the public education system, create a bunch of freak humans and then dog out the ones you don’t like for being freak humans.

It’s a freaking sickness, an American death spiral.

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By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 09:04 AM | Link to this

By Ethic RIGHT February 24, 2007 08:36 AM Its time for this to stop. Cheney has much more influence on people than Mass. does. Cheney has a national stage.

Did you go to school in Taxachussetts, It’s?

So the vice president has more influence over our kids then the public education system does, eh?

Mary Cheney is one of two things- either a product of our culture or the one in a hundred that really is a bull dy-ke.

Whatever. To each his own. Live and let live.

This is no good reason to turn all the rest of our children into freak humans.

Why don’t we leave them alone?

Why do we have to f their lives up too?

Why can’t we just let them live normal, well adjusted lives without the guilt of you liberals being shoved down their throat?

I thought this was a free country?

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By Writer's block

February 24, 2007 09:11 AM | Link to this

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq today?

By Ethic RIGHT

February 24, 2007 09:14 AM | Link to this

WootenDull, how many people know about the Mass. schools? Not many. How many know about the Vice Presidents Bull Dike daughter being pregnant, just about the whole friggin world. Wait untill she has that abomination, the media frenzy will be absurd. Cheney needs to speak out against this and hide his daughter some where far away. Its sick.

By @@

February 24, 2007 09:14 AM | Link to this

I’ve been watching the internet progress over the years. I’m becoming an advocate for restriction. Never thought I’d hear myself say that, but it’s our kids….

Former ACLU Chapter President Arrested for Child Pornography

The videos described in the complaint depict graphic forcible intercourse with prepubescent females. One if the girls is described in court documents as being “seen and heard crying”, another is described as being “bound by rope.”

Rust Tierney coaches various youth sports teams in and around Arlington, Virginia, according to court documents.

In the past, Rust-Tierney had argued against restricting Internet access in public libraries in Virginia, writing, “Recognizing that individuals will continue to behave responsibly and appropriately while in the library, the default should be maximum, unrestricted access to the valuable resources of the Internet.”

When you think about how our society is !?!progressing,!?! try to imagine what we may be facing in the not so far off future.

Children forced into beastiality?

Children in snuff films?

This is very disturbing.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 09:16 AM | Link to this

Well WD, in your response to our liberal multiple ID goon, surely you know that one of the many sicknesses of the disease of liberalism is having to “share” other people’s pain and “misfortunes.” We must “live” like them and understand what they go through in life. It will “enlighten” us when we learn to understand the “struggles” of others. Of course, it all has to be shoved down our throats like bad tasting medicine by them. Sick liberals.

By Writer's block

February 24, 2007 09:18 AM | Link to this

What is the mission of US troops in Afghanistan today?

By JohnD

February 24, 2007 09:37 AM | Link to this

I agree with the lost liberals on this blog on the end to the sacrifice of our military in Iraq. I disagree on the method.

Collateral damage be damned we must end this in a manner similar to the end of WWII. For example, we drop leaflets warning everyone that Tuesday will be a very bad day to be in Fallujah. Surround the area and search every man, woman and child, vehicle and anything else on the way out of town. Confiscate all weapons and items that could be weapons.

Next, bomb Fallujah out of existence and then apply the shampoo theory again in two weeks at the next “insurgent” stronghold. Wash, rinse and repeat until the fighting stops or there are no more places to hide.

The cost in lives and money would be less if we just erase the cities and rebuild.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 09:41 AM | Link to this

Another link about the sick facsist liberal nazis in A$$ashussetts shoving gay teachings down children’s throats all in the name of that liberal bullsnot word “diversity”:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorialopinion/editorials/articles/2007/02/24/upholdingdiversity_lessons/

By @@

February 24, 2007 09:45 AM | Link to this

Is JohnD my husband?

You and he think alike.

By WasteManagement

February 24, 2007 09:46 AM | Link to this

By Markus

February 24, 2007 08:30 AM | Now you know why I call the horseass liberals sick. They are diseased. They are hell bent on destroying the fabric of this nation’s social structure (the traditional family) and replacing it with some neoStalinist fantasyland cesspool of freaks.

So what sewer did you crawl out of Markus. Crap like you should be flushed permanently instead of allowed to continuously swirl around the bowl. You are absolute trash!

By WasteManagement

February 24, 2007 09:48 AM | Link to this

Markus the 06 elections have been over for 4 months now. Should your rebel flag still be at half staff? And please quit throwing those Pabst cans in your yard. Property values are already too low here because of you.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 09:51 AM | Link to this

Uh oh. It looks like the big bad wolf of gubment is taking those cute little limpwristed hybrid cars liberals love so much down some MPG pegs. You know those cute hybrids. Those ugly things that are now a threat to pedestrians because they are too quiet. The ones shown in an episode of South Park where every limpwristed liberal was smelling his own fart after driving one.

Awe. I just want to CRY now and hurry up and buy one before new regulations downgrade them even more and before the tax cut for them is reduced more (the ONLY tax refund neoStalinist liberal demoncats are FOR).

Meh, methinks I’ll just continue to blow my honkin’ dual exhuast V-8 up their @sses.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2007/20070223155129.aspx

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 09:53 AM | Link to this

By Ethic RIGHT February 24, 2007 09:14 AM WootenDull, how many people know about the Mass. schools? Not many. How many know about the Vice Presidents Bull Dike daughter being pregnant

You don’t even understand, do you dullard?

A new national survey released today at a US Senate hearing shows that when asked, more American teenagers: can name three of the Three Stooges than can name the three branches of government (59% to 41%) and know the star of the motion picture “Titanic” than know the Vice President of the United States (90% to 74%).

We quit teaching about the vice president years ago, it was cutting into the cucumber demonstrations.

We’re a nation of dullards, just like you.

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By Dr.Doom

February 24, 2007 09:53 AM | Link to this

The state of Massasissyies should be quarantined and blown up!!

By @@

February 24, 2007 09:54 AM | Link to this

In the Boston Globe link, Judge Wolf had this to say:

“Judge Wolf reasonably concluded that options remain for the parents, such as private school or home schooling, so their rights were not abridged.”

I would argue that those options aren’t available to everyone. Liberals vehemently oppose school vouchers.

Some families’ work hours preclude homeschooling.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 09:56 AM | Link to this

WM poof:

What the hell does a rebel flag have to do with anything I’ve posted? Was it the Jessie comment that got your little pinko panties in a wad or was it Nigeria’s great tourist destination spot? Or was it the Chocolate City comment? Tell me which of ANY of those comments were not FACT based. Pathetic pig liberal… anytime you buttplugs can’t retort, you use the “nazi” or “racist” sewage. Sick liberals.

Oh yeah, and limpwristed liberal pu$$y queef: ask me if I give a RAT’S A* what you sick liberals think around here.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

I guess for all those unfortunate folks who are stuck living in that liberal hellhole A*******achussetts, there has to be a re-write of the classic movie “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner.”

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Uh oh. It looks like Al “Burn that Jet-A” Sore is set to win an Oscar for his bullsheet lieumentary on global warming. There’s just one small problem. The movie’s pornography of facts violates Rule 12 of the Academy Awards, which basically says that the story must be based on fact and not fiction and theory. Oops. Oh well, not that the Hollywoodheads are going to NOT give Al “Convenient Lie” Sore an award. Sick liberals.

http://www.oscars.org/77academyawards/rules/rule12.html

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Earlier this month it was the liberal Gov from Oregon that ostracized a state climatologist on his stance of mankind not being responsible for the majority of global warming.

Now the Gov of Joe Biden’s la-la-land Deleware is doing the same thing.

Man, I sure am glad those environazi liberals are all for diversity of opinions and all. Sick.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Please! Will someone speak to me? I’m so lonely.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

You know it’s a beautiful and successful blog day when you get ID jacked by our resident neoStalinist terrorist-loving liberal multiple ID queefer.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

I just love being gay. Its so enriching!

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Are there any nice young men on this blog that wants to screw me? I’m very submissive.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

My dream come true would be to go down on the entire Atlanta Hawks team.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Who in the hell would have guessed there would be a DNC convention at a KFC-Taco Bell? Heh. Hehehe. HAHAHAHA!!!

http://www.wnbc.com/news/11089614/detail.html?dl=mainclick

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Oh what I would give to have a nice long stiff one up my a$$!

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Oh hell. It’s that time of year again. Gas prices are going to start rising. Not a peep from the RAT media all winter, but stay tuned folks, the onslaught of bedwetting and big oil profits and Bush manipulating oil prices for profiteering and plundering is coming! Sick liberal economically-challenged monkeys.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=businessNews&storyid=2007-02-23T192554Z01SP26143RTRUKOC0_US-MARKETS-OIL.xml&src=rss&rpc=23

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Now the global warming scarenazi liberals are keeping our children from sleeping at night. I wonder how many of our idiot gubment education teachers contribute to this calamity? It reminds me of the scare tactics in the late 1970s when killer bees were heading to the US from Mexico. But of course, back in the late ‘1970s it was all about global cooling. Keeping a child in a gubment school is child abuse. Sick liberals.

http://www.gm.tv/index.cfm?articleid=24717

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

The DNC convention at KFC-Taco Bell is ironic because my ex boyfriend screwed me up the a$$ with a taco once. I broke up with him because he used mild instead of hot sauce.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Try as you might, liberal ID queefer RAT, you ain’t shuttin’ me up. EVER. Pig.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

My lashing out at liberals and gays is my way of trying to supress my own lifestyle. I didn’t want to supress it until my feelings migrated toward animals. Anyone out there have a dog?

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Do it Lieberman! Just do it! Leave the RAT party that abandoned you! Leave the Party Of The Permanently Miserable.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0207/2865.html

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

The reason I keep saying Rat and Pig is because I once had a threesome with a Rat and a Pig. You wouldn’t believe what they did to me. My mouth hasn’t been the same since.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

WARNING:I will now be wasting my Saturday and wanking myself for all to see. Be cautious of bolded caps and bullshiite links. Raincoat and protetctive eyewear are strongly advisable.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

A 70-year old retired military man was on vacation with fellow tourists in Costa Rica when they got jumped on bus by three punkasses. Fortunately, this military old timer was able to snap the neck of one of the little bastards while the other two ran off.

As it turned out, the perp died. Awe. What a shame. Said Costa Rican authorities about possible charges being brougt up against the tourist, “They were in their right to defend themselves after being held up.”

Of course, if this happened in some limpwristed criminal boot-licking city like San Freaksicko, that retired military man would be facing a trial thanks to our sick liberal judges.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/22/D8NF5DGG1.html

By getalife

February 24, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

“GOP War Candidate McCain: Iraq Could End My Career”

The Iraq disaster will end many careers.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Do you have a nice stiff one for me to play with?

By Markus

February 24, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Some may have probably heard this already, especially those who don’t use the New York Slimes, Washington Compost, CNN, or PMSNBC for their main media outlet. It is now apparent that illegal aliens are killing more US citizens than the Iraqi war… ANUALLY. Yep, these are the same “people” that liberal kooks want to grant voting rights to… while they kill us. Sick liberals.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/02/moreamericanskilledbyilleg.php

By Markus

February 24, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

As anyone can plainly see, I love blogging to myself.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Irony 401:

Liberals b!tch up a storm about Conservative views on homosexuality and gay marriage, yet have no problems using gay epithets and references when attempting to insult Conservatives on this blog. See ^^above^^ ID jacklinks. Now why should anyone give a flying monkey’s @ss what these pathetic liberal sewer RATs think about a Conservative’s stance on gay marriage. [spit]

By steve-o

February 24, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Markus

You are a pathetic, worthless, and desperate piece of shiite!! So Delta is flying to Nigeria because of Jesse Jackson?? You fuggin dumbass!! Maybe it’s because of the many Nigerian immigrants that live in Atlanta and elsewhere in the US. Maybe it’ because a lot of American oil companies do business in oil-rich Nigeria. Maybe it’s because the American corporation Firestone has rubber plantations in West Africa. But no, everything has some sort of political agenda you paranoid little prick!!

And what’s with all this “queef” talk you sick little girl? What type of Christian talk is that? You use immature vulgar language like that and accuse Democrats of being the party of hate?

Nobody cares what you have to say. And I doubt that anyone in the real world cares what you have to say hence the repetitive garbage that you post on here each day.

By Go outside and enjoy the weather moron!!

February 24, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Markus,

Why do you keep dishing out all this information? No one is here. Today is a beautiful day so go out and enjoy it.

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

JimWooten:

Do we really need this?

By Markus February 24, 2007 10:43 AM The DNC convention at KFC-Taco Bell is ironic because my ex boyfriend screwed me up the a$$ with a taco once. I broke up with him because he used mild instead of hot sauce.

I thought the AJC had a visitor’s agreement?

We reserve the right to deny access to this website, or any service provided via this website, to anyone who violates this visitor agreement or who, in our judgment, interferes with the ability of others to enjoy this website, or infringes the rights of others.

What is it with this “newcomer” and you?

Are you related?

Boot this filth.

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By Markus

February 24, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

As you can see I don’t believe in gay marriage, I believe that gays should just have free for all sex romps. I can testify from my own personal experience that the gay lifestyle is very FulFilling if you know what I mean.

Me and my boyfriend play a sick game called “Adam and Steve”. I eat the forbidden fruit and my punishment is to let Steve spank me with a fig leaf.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Obama comment:

“Let’s allow our unions and their organizers to lift up this country’s middle class again.”

GM, Ford, and Daimler-Chrysler UAW employees are being layed off by the thousands (no thanks to the ugly CRAP they’ve been producing).

Toyota has been hiring by the thousands of non-union workers. The Camry has been the #1 best selling car in America since the 1990s.

I get it. Build ugly crap that nobody wants with union forced wages and that will bring up the “middle class.” Oh sure. And wave that magic wand and the US auto corporations will have a bottomless wallet to dig that money from. Yes, people really are economically ignorant enough to buy Obama’s comment.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

WootenDull,

Mind your own business cretin. I’m looking for a man.

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

I sure wish I could draw this much attention like Markus. Maybe being gay isn’t bad after all.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

WD-

I just got ID jacked, that’s all. Happens all the time to our resident liberal no-life multiple ID poofer. I wear it like a badge of honor. When the little liberal girlie boys can’t debate or refute what you post, they menstraute all over the blog with sexual and homosexual innuendoes.

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Too bad I don’t have better things to do than to be the blog police. Nothing satisfies my day more than whining to JimWooten, who is out of town by the way,about things that hurt my wittle feelings.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

steve-o:

First of all, if you don’t care what I post here, then don’t comment on it. Better yet, don’t even READ it. But I know you sick liberals can’t STAND the fact that Conservatives are out there bashing your horseass ideology. You sick people can’t stand it. You can’t SLEEP knowing there’s a Conservative out there bashing your religion of liberalism. You sick freaks on the left live 7x24 trying to shut out the voice of opposition to your neoStalinist ideologies, including ID jacking. Sick liberal.

By @@

February 24, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

If you scroll up to Jim Wooten’s 10:40 comment made yesterday, it becomes all too obvious that the liberal posting “filth” also namejacks Markus to do so.

He/she eats from a very nasty dinner table indeed. Maybe he/she should eat outside with the dogs.

By Jim Wooten February 23, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Morning all. I’ll be away for a week, lounging in the Caribbean, testing Mr. getalife’s suggestion that the life of leisure would suit me.

Topics will continue to be posted and my colleague, Mike King, may be weighing in from time-to-time. Remember the dinner-table standard: If you’d be embarassed saying it at Mr. King’s table, don’t say it here.

Jim, this liberal namejacking “filthy-mouthed” poster obviously does not appreciate your gracious hospitality, and should be dismissed. He/she cries out for his/her dismissal every weekend without fail.

By @@

February 24, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

There are 5 hours left to post here today, I predict that the multi-ID namejacking “filthy-mouthed” liberal poster will start spamming long cut & pastes, ranting incoherently, and injecting personal attacks against specific conservative bloggers.

The reason? It’s all he/she has in the arsenal. No intellectual capacity, no debating skills, no valuable information he/she can share.

Indecent and offensive filth is the best he/she has to offer.

And changing names to repeat this behavior only reflects on ALL LIBERALS, but I don’t think he/she even cares about that.

Note: A “LIBERAL” IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

By @@

February 24, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

One other point I’d like to make before I’m out for awhile.

If the liberal multi-ID namejacker can’t post his/her filth freely without being detected, he/she will resort to changing their name, yet again, and posting as a “conservative” to maliciously portray the view from the right. Sometimes, he/she even responds to his/her own post to make it look legitimate.

It’s a silly game, but then he/she is a silly LIBERAL DEMOCRAT.

By Takes one to know one.

February 24, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

@@,

You would have to be a jacker yourself know all that info. Using your rationale, I think you’re the one that has been jacking Markus.

By @@

February 24, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

Someone better leave my lover Markus alone. He and I have some bass and halibut to screw.

By @@

February 24, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry Markus,sweetie, I’ll save you.

By jbmlaw

February 24, 2007 01:13 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon all. At risk of pointing out the obvious, the “namejacker” is probably a pre-pubescent on an unsupervised computer. That is the reason there is no content - even our dumbest leftists usually post an argument in the arrogant belief that we cannot live without their superior wisdom.

Markus, I am sorry you are suffering the idiot, but please don’t stop posting - I enjoy reading your thoughts, and I don’t have any trouble distinguishing yours from the child’s.

By jbmlaw

February 24, 2007 01:15 PM | Link to this

Dear Takes one @ 12:41, you are obviously new to the blog. @@ is one of our brighter lights, and she has been around the blog long enough to make informed guesses about the behavior of the namejackers.

By @@

February 24, 2007 01:18 PM | Link to this

Takes one to know one:

I’ve been watching the immaturity of “liberal” tactics on blogs for a long time. My background in child psychology and observation works to my advantage in recognizing you liberals, and your silly games.

Markus doesn’t need me to rescue him.

I think he responds to you quite adequately.

Me being female, offers the patience necessary to deal with a child in tantrum. They often use their tantrums to avoid the task at hand. Adequate and productive performance, if you will….

Hey!!! ^^^ That’s you “little one”.

By jbmlaw

February 24, 2007 01:19 PM | Link to this

Dear JohnD @ 9:37, I know you and I generally disagree, but I think there is merit in your argument. A collateral bonus is that the winddrift would carry the residual radiation east.

By JohnD

February 24, 2007 01:25 PM | Link to this

@@ and Markus (the original),

Liberals have no plan, no position and no basis for their arguments. If you think this nutcase that is hijacking here is sick you should stop by dailykos.com and read the filth these so called “progressives” wallow in every day.

These self-proclaimed intellectuals have the vocabulary of corner hip-hop squealers and other illiterates.

Of course you only have to see their “leaders” to understand the problem. The Clintons, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Howard Dean, and the rest are shallow, often criminal (Kennedy, Clinton & Reid), socialist, capitalism-be-damned, haters of America. Oh, I forgot cowardly.

You will also note these are the very characteristics these libs try to paint the President and all conservatives with in their tirades. The sad truth is they only describe their own.

By JohnD

February 24, 2007 01:33 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

Thank you but I was not suggesting nuclear weapons, just a couple of heavily armed fighters will do the trick. The 1,400 Wahabi Mosques in the US should be the next targets, not for destruction but for elimination and deportation of the followers of the that sect.

I usually find your comments well thought out and referenced. Do not recall disagreeing with much of yours but I am a little more conservative than most on some of the issues while still finding some merit in the positions of the more middle of the road ideas of the left.

By jbmlaw

February 24, 2007 01:43 PM | Link to this

Dear JohnD @ 1:33, I am embarrassed by my confusion - I am at least as bad in daily life, confusing names and faces. My apologies for my false statement - after reading again, you express my thoughts better than I.

By @@

February 24, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this

JohnD:

Alright, I’m always up for learning. My time is limited today though.

Since you seem to be rational in your thinking, and put forth the same military tactic the husband supports, I have a question.

Given that all the liberals argue that aggression begets aggression from the extremists, how do you think such measures as the one you proposed would impact the more moderate Muslims in the ME?

Taking into consideration that a normal human psyche is geared towards survival, would your proposition serve as an deterrent to any further radicalization.

It certainly is what I would count on, but would have to be followed by reconstruction and financial support as you suggested.

Now I don’t know much about history, but it seemed to work in Japan. They came out of Hiroshima, and today are a proud, productive society.

By getalife

February 24, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this

Do you idiots know you are cheering on the end of our sovereignty as a country for corporate utopia?

Nice work wingnuts.

Geez.

By jbmlaw

February 24, 2007 02:04 PM | Link to this

Dear Getalife @ 1:53, no, but if you whistle a few bars perhaps I’ll recognize it.

By @@

February 24, 2007 02:29 PM | Link to this

Well gee Getalife, have you given up the COC now that the Democrats are engaged in it? The North American Union is your call to arms?

I don’t know enough about it to comment, but I’d much rather see America’s capitalism move south than to have Hugo’s “anti-social” dictatorship move north.

Down with Hugo Chavez! Further and further down until he finds himself in a row boat heading to the south pole.

Let’s freeze him out.

By getalife

February 24, 2007 02:50 PM | Link to this

Well, at least fakelaw admitted he is an idiot.

@@,

I just posted the latest news and suggest looking at the people involved.

It is corporate agenda with no approval from the people.

Ron Paul does not like it:

“The NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) Superhighway

“The ultimate goal is not simply a superhighway, but an integrated North American Union — complete with a currency, a cross-national bureaucracy, and virtually borderless travel within the Union. Like the European Union, a North American Union would represent another step toward the abolition of national sovereignty altogether …

“[T]he United States should not engage in the construction of a NAFTA superhighway, or enter into any agreement that advances the concept of a North American Union. I wholeheartedly support this legislation, and predict that the superhighway will become a sleeper issue in the 2008 election.”

By @@

February 24, 2007 03:11 PM | Link to this

Alright Getalife, I think we’ve been through this before, but I don’t mind following your suggestion.

BTW, I’ve seen posters here infer that you may be the “multi-ID” filthy-mouthed liberal namejacker.

I certainly wouldn’t want that to be true.

You are above that kind of childish behavior, aren’t you?

There’s such a thing as good clean fun, and then there’s depraved “filth”.

By jbmlaw

February 24, 2007 03:11 PM | Link to this

Dear Getalife @ 2:50, assuming hypothetically that Ron Paul is correct about the “goal” - if he starting talking about whose goal people would mock him talking about black helicopters and aluminum hats - how different would that world be than the one we have? The parade of horrors you cite seemingly would permit Mexicans to resettle in Atlanta at will, people would be using something other than cash dollars to administer their financial affairs (my total cash transactions last year probably totaled $1,000 - I mostly used plastic currency and internet electrons). I am perfectly willing to run around screaming the world is ending just like you leftists, but I cannot envision the problem. More freedom is not always bad.

By getalife

February 24, 2007 03:23 PM | Link to this

fakelaw,

There will be legislation introduced to stop it.

If it is so great, why not have the Congress approve it?

Most are corporate w******* anyway and losing our country is no big deal for traitors like you.

Real Americans are against it but the wingnuts will go for it. Failed Americans, pure and simple.

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 03:24 PM | Link to this

Al Qaeda killing Sunnis:

The imam of the mosque in Habbaniyah, about 50 miles west of Baghdad, had spoken out against militants fighting the U.S.-backed government, including the group al-Qaida in Iraq.

It’s a civil war alright, the Iraqis against terrorists.

And it looks to me like Iran has been reading the Pinko Times:

Iran: U.S. Not in Position to Start War…

Won’t they be surprised when they figure out that cartoon boy Luckovich doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about.

The Air Force and the Navy can take Iran’s a-ss all the way out, they don’t even need the freaking army. They’d just get in the way.

So let’s park the Missouri off the coast of Iran and let those 16 inch guns terrorize their as-ses for awhile.

Punk a-ss women killers need to be blowed up.

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By getalife

February 24, 2007 03:25 PM | Link to this

Its not me @@.

By @@

February 24, 2007 03:32 PM | Link to this

Gosh Getalife, when you posted that google link regarding the North American Union, you didn’t tell us which one to look at.

This one is interesting though. North American Union “Conspiracy” Exposed: Special Report

Should I be automatically opposed to it since it’s being pushed by Democrats?

Are you going to give me more time to research it?

I will, regardless…

By getalife

February 24, 2007 03:41 PM | Link to this

@@,

Check out the recent meeting in Ottawa with Chertoff and Rice.

This guy was the first to report it

By Markus

February 24, 2007 03:51 PM | Link to this

WD-

You don’t have to worry about Iran. Our presence in the Gulf there is just a muscle flex. Israel, you know, that nation the candyassed left hates so much, will take care of the Iranian threat just like they did over a quarter century ago. Ironically, they’ll be doing it with the same US-built planes again, except they’ll be using C and E variants instead of A and B variants of the time (F-15/16).

Just sit back and watch the show. Then watch the pathetic candyasses on the left wet their pretty pinko satin sheets on them hitting a “sovereign nation.”

By Markus

February 24, 2007 04:09 PM | Link to this

Wow. That Great Gatsby of liberalism, the ACLPEW, is now fighting for the inclusion of Muslim “scholars” in the US who support islamofascist terrorism. Once again, let me pick my jaw up off the ground. I am so shocked.

Case exhibit #1247 of how liberalism is destroying this nation. Suck up to the enemy. I wonder if these jackals will fight so hard for people like Salman Rushdie. Not.

http://bob.wjla.com/headlines/0207/400208.html

By @@

February 24, 2007 04:18 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

WHAT? No response to my link implicating Democrat’s complicity in the NAU?

You only want me to look at YOUR link implicating Republicans?

You first! You weren’t specific when you googled.

I WAS specific.

I’m breaking for a snack. I’ll look forward to your commentary addressing my “Post Chronicle” link upon my return.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 04:20 PM | Link to this

Wow. Obama visits the Little Five Points freakshow of Texas, Austin, and as expected the freaks showed up. Even those 9/11 liberal conspironuts carrying “Investigate 9/11” signs. What, did these flaming liberal monkeys not read the 9/11 Commission Report? Perhaps these liberal lab RATs forgot that Barbara Olson of “Hell To Pay” anti-Shrillary book fame is still MIA from that plane… err missile that hit the Pentagon.

http://do512.com/event/2007/02/23/obama-visits-austin

Video here.

Sick libofreaks.

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 04:24 PM | Link to this

Smackdown!:

“I’m not sure what part of it is that Nancy disagreed with,” he told ABC News. “She accused me of questioning her patriotism. I didn’t question her patriotism. I questioned her judgment.”

My gawd, will this ignorant Pelosi woman ever learn to keep her dull mouth shut?

How much ridicule and humiliation can she take?

Even bull dy-ke Hillary isn’t this stupid.

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By Markus

February 24, 2007 04:30 PM | Link to this

Great photo of Shrillary in front of George Steponanoctopus during a RAT candidate forum. This would make a great wax museum display. Of course, they would need a lot of Gulf Wax bricks for the thunderthighs.

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070222/idsphotosts/r3686525132.jpg

By Markus

February 24, 2007 04:36 PM | Link to this

Yep WD, once again Pelosivich proves the sickness of liberalism. If you disagree with what they say and think, you are questioning their patriotism and should sit down and STFU. I’ve said that countless times here.

Good for Cheney for sticking to his guns here, so to speak. What a bunch of whineyassed overgrown liberal babies.

By JohnD

February 24, 2007 04:46 PM | Link to this

@@,

The Muslims have aggressively attacked anyone in their path for the entirety of their existence. The argument, agreession begets, etc., is valid only with rational humans who have as their goal to continue to exist. Our enemy in this war sees honor in their own death and in the deaths of their children. I would argue the position of Americans is just the oppsite. To think we can negotiate with, or simply ignore the threat of, these radical Muslims is folly. The only times throughout history the radical Muslims have behaved is when they have been defeated militarily. Read about Thomas Jefferson’s dealing with the Muslim pirates at the turn of the 19th century.

The moderate Muslims are constrained from speaking against the radicals by their wish to live. To answer the question posed by that irritating Writers Block, the goal in Iraq is to give the moderates an opportunity to govern and succeed. IF the goal is attained then the rest of the Muslim world will see the radicals can be defeated and no longer will the free-thinking Muslims live in fear.

I would also like to believe the “Honey Pot Theory” of the war. Our leaders felt this war would draw the attention of the radicals and terrorists who would otherwise be traveling around the world and the US and they would now be in Iraq. We have them in a theater whereby we may not be able to recognize each combatant but they are not here and they are in a killing zone.

The fall of several countries in Europe to Islam is more imminent than any of us would like to admit. Western Europe is caving and if we do not stop the influx of Muslims to this country their goal of assimilation followed by overwhelming us with their numbers will certainly be achieved.

I could go on but the reality is that some opponents can only be defeated militarily. There are other means but we do not have the time to allow us to become independent of Middle Eastern oil or for an alternative to fossil fuels to develop to a point the Muslim supply of money evaporates.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 04:59 PM | Link to this

Compost denies being a liberal rag during a PBS Frontine story on the media. They asked the Compost’s Editor At Large his opinion of liberal bias at the Compost:

Q. Every person we speak with who would identify themselves as a conservative journalist says: “Bias? If you think we’re biased, look at The Washington Post, that liberal newspaper.”

A. “In our news gathering, we seek to be strictly nonpartisan and nonideological. We’re human beings, we make mistakes, but we do not set out to be, nor do I think we are, liberal. And judging from my e-mail traffic in recent years, the left is much more critical, and much more angrily critical, of our coverage than the right has been.”

Oh I geddit. Because they get more flame mail from alleged liberals that means they are not biased left. Sure. And the al Jazeera Constipation is not biased left because they publish right-wing Vents.

So what separates a liberal rag from a flaming liberal rag? Apparently, the amount of fuel. Or the non-amount of Conservatives that even read that liberal cesspool and comment about it.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/articledisplay.jsp?vnucontent_id=1003548486

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 05:01 PM | Link to this

To be sure, there are still risks for Basra in this decision. That city and its environs have faced serious periods of warfare among various contending Shia militias in recent years. Some militias are more closely affiliated with Iran, meaning Tehran may sense more of an opportunity now to promote extremist groups that are friendlier to its interests. And any increase in chaos, due to such intermilitia strife or to simple criminality, could slow efforts to make Basra an example for the rest of the country — not to mention efforts to improve oil production and transportation in and around southern Iraq, something crucial to the entire country’s economy.

Not if they got the US Air Force up thier a-ss, Basra will be the last thing they’re worried about.

What are we waiting for?

To see if Iran gets nicey-nice with us?

Blow. Them. Up.

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By JohnD

February 24, 2007 05:03 PM | Link to this

The North American Union is only the first step in the plan. Elements of both parties actively seek a one-world economy. To accomplish this goal all international borders would have to disappear. David Rockefeller openly brags about his participation in such a plan and dreams of the day the plan becomes reality.

There are over 4.6 billion people in the world who live below the level of the poorest in the US. Do these deep thinking 1 worlders think we can possibly bring 4.6 billion people up to our standard of living? No, but they are willing to drop the standard for most of us to create their dream. The biggest flaw in their plan, as I see it, is that the US and our culture will cease to exist.

Our culture will disappear without the 1 world economy if we do not stop illegal immigration and drastically reduce legal immigration.

Members of our Congress vote to give illegals the benefits of Social Security, Bank of America elects to give credit and credit cards to individuals who are not able to prove they are legal residents and the North American Union is the darling of both sides of the aisle. How much more proof do we need before we recognize our elected representatives only represent their own interests, not ours?

The Constitution directs the President and Congress to protect our borders and defend our sovereignty. Do you believe they are doing so?

By getalife

February 24, 2007 05:04 PM | Link to this

“Obama: ‘When Cheney Says It’s Good…You’ve Got Big Problems’”

That pretty sums up cheney’s credibility.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 05:09 PM | Link to this

“The fall of several countries in Europe to Islam is more imminent than any of us would like to admit.”

I would like to nominate JohnD for the best blog comment of the year so far. That is most certainly the undeniable reality and truth, even if flaming candyassed liberal demoncats say we are just “scared” of them. The poser liberals will be scared all the way to praying East five times a day on their knees because they don’t believe in fighting for anything. That goes for the liberal Defeatocrats in Washington as well.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,234817,00.html

By JohnD

February 24, 2007 05:13 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You have listened to the constant banter of the Bush haters on the left so long you now quote Barrack Hussein Obama as a guide to credibility. Yikes!

By getalife

February 24, 2007 05:19 PM | Link to this

The Constitution directs the President and Congress to protect our borders and defend our sovereignty. Do you believe they are doing so?

No.

I think all parties involved in this corporate agenda should be purged from office.

I consider them traitors to the United States of America.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 05:20 PM | Link to this

Cheney was in high power when Obama was still brown-staining his Underoos. BFD what Obama thinks.

The Aussies love Cheney:

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070223/photosplafp/39a1241bf4a0f5ba6ff2aec168df8b0a

By getalife

February 24, 2007 05:25 PM | Link to this

JohnD,

I look at cheney’s words to judge his credibility.

When cheney spews, the opposite is the reality.

Take this gem for example:

Cheney: Iraq War A “Remarkable Achievement”

More like a “remarkable disaster”.

Geez.

By getalife

February 24, 2007 05:30 PM | Link to this

“Cheney seemed comfortable knowing that not all Australians like him, telling The Australian that not all the gestures directed as he cruises around in his motorcade are friendly waves.

“Driving through Sydney is a lot like driving through New York City,” Cheney said. “You get some waves, and then you get some other waves. And that goes with living in a democracy. … That’s as it should be.”

Check this guy out

By @@

February 24, 2007 05:30 PM | Link to this

Dang JohnD, first you exhibit the husbands opinion to a tee, and then you exhibit my opinion with your 4:46.

The one singular political issue we do agree on without usual heated debate, is this war and national security.

Now…onto Getalife’s concerns re: the North American Union. Another question, I’m always full of them.

Responding your quote from our constitution, whereby the President and Congress are to protect our borders and defend our sovereignty, I would say the simple answer is “NO”.

However, when other continents are banning together for the benefit of functioning as economic trading blocs, how are we, the U.S. to compete on our little isolated island? Especially with a democratic socialist government to our north, and an impending shift to socialism (Hugo’s communism) to our south.

Just asking, and keep in mind I’m a novice when it comes to economics and trade.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 05:43 PM | Link to this

Pelosivich ok with giving freebie college tuition breaks to illegal aliens. Gee, I wonder why the mainstream media let this story fly under the radar?

http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/Articles/Nancy%20Pelosi%20Backs%20Tuition%20Breaks.html

By Markus

February 24, 2007 05:44 PM | Link to this

Like American and the Euroweenies as well as the Aussies, the sickness of the disease of candyassed liberalism is everywhere.

By @@

February 24, 2007 05:46 PM | Link to this

Speaking of Obama. I was watching Dick Morris last night. He pointed out that Obama has no experience in foreign policy. None, zero, zip, nada.

He went on to say Clinton (Bill) had none either when elected, and not until two and a half years after he assumed the presidency was he even close to assuming the responsibilities.

And Getalife, that’s exactly why I think Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, and Donald Rumsfeld were beneficial to Bush. He didn’t have any either, but he had people he could depend on who did.

BTW, Bill Richardson has experience. Even Hillary Clinton has some leftovers from Bill. I don’t want to enjoy those leftovers again though.

Mitt Romney? I’m not sure.

Newt Gingrich? Awesome.

By Markus

February 24, 2007 05:49 PM | Link to this

Holy sheet! I missed this story! The Lousyanan William “freezer cashburn” Jefferson has been elected to a seat on Homeland Security.

Well I’ll be damned. It looks like the Utopian dream of Pelosivich’s “Most ethical Congress in history” is 0 for 4 now. Sick liberals.

Well hell, at least I know my freezer will be protected by Jefferson.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2007/02/jeffersongetshomeland_securi.html

By WootenDull

February 24, 2007 05:54 PM | Link to this

The movie mogul’s comments marked the first time Bill Clinton had been subjected to an attack from his party since the 1992 campaign. The former president was reported as infuriated, raising the question of whether he will rise to the bait in any further intraparty criticism of his “wife.”

What is that saying that the pinkos like to babble on about, that Conservatives are all “Bushbots?”

They could catch Bill and bull dy-ke Hillary sitting down to a meal of Jewish babies and not one lib would say a freaking word. Jewish baby dinners would become all the rage in New York City.

These two clowns have more indictable offenses under their belts then the Manson Family, Hillary has the IQ of a bathtub toy and Billy is a pathological rapist, prowling for the young and old, crippled, married, it don’t make a sh-it long as it’s got a box.

Can anyone remember a lib ever criticizing one of these degenerates, at least before Snowflake Obama came along?

You need to go scurrying back to your little lockstep pinko webblogs and find some new talking point other than “Bushbot.”

Like rats back to your holes.

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By Markus

February 24, 2007 05:55 PM | Link to this

“Clinton leftovers”

Ugh @@, I’m close to pulling an 8-hour smoked pork butt off my grill, so please don’t ruin my appetite now!

By @@

February 24, 2007 05:59 PM | Link to this

Markus:

I recall reading somewhere that Jefferson had commandeered much needed vehicles during Katrina to secure his personal belongings while his neighbors waded, er waited.

Do you recall reading anything about that?

By Markus

February 24, 2007 06:03 PM | Link to this

What a GREAT day of smackdown of the disease of liberalism today. Even our resident multiple-ID libogoon couldn’t handle all this smackfest. Heh. Hehehe. HAHAHAHA!

By Markus

February 24, 2007 06:07 PM | Link to this

Yes @@, William Jefferson did that for his personal belongings. You probably didn’t hear about it because CNN’s Wolfman Blitzface didn’t report it nor was it reported in the al Jazeera Constipation or Slimes or Compost. These people on the left are the most hypocritical pigs on the planet.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorousconservative/2005/09/repwilliam_jef.html

By JP

February 26, 2007 09:44 AM | Link to this

Markus..how much foreign policy experience did W have? How many times had he traveled internationally?

By JP

February 26, 2007 09:49 AM | Link to this

Van: “If Bush did lie then Congress was a fool not to looking it and impeach Bush.”

Since when did 6 years of Republican control of Congress do ANY oversight? You’ve just pointed out why your party lost the majority. Congratulations!