Thinking Right

By *Drunken Blogger*

February 11, 2007 08:00 AM | Link to this

YEAH!,I totally agree….let ‘em buy their own ?!

By WootenDull

February 11, 2007 08:02 AM | Link to this

It always cracks me up to hear a lib wailing about too much government spending:

Despite a national debt in the mega-trillions, Congress hasn’t blocked a single bill appropriating money for this war.-Queen Pinko, Urinal

If you haven’t learned by now, no matter what you do with a lib they will never stop whining, either you’ve spent too much or you haven’t spent enough, regardless of what you’ve done.

Government auditors have noted that few reasonable accounting rules were applied; the money was not monitored once it reached Iraq.

So let’s give it to the libs in Georgia, right?

In Atlanta, the school district is in hot water over spending a whopping $73 million on a computer network without routinely seeking competitive bids. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that all the money was “misspent or mismanaged.”

Liberals set up these huge massive untrackable government entitlement programs for the sole purpose of defrauding them, it’s like a way of living for them, see what’s coming for “climate change.”

They are not at all concerned about “Halliburton” or any other Conservative strawman losing government funds; what they’re really upset about are these Conservatives cutting into their action, taking money that they want to steal.

An L.A. Times op-ed of April 22 said, “Halliburton Received No-Bid Contracts During Clinton Administration For Work In Bosnia And Kosovo.” An October 2003 article in the (Raleigh, NC) News & Observer quoted Bill Clinton’s Undersecretary Of Commerce William Reinsch as saying “‘Halliburton has a distinguished track record,’ he said. ‘They do business in some 120 countries. This is a group of people who know what they’re doing in a difficult business. It’s a particularly difficult business when people are shooting at you.’”

It’s a wonder anyone even listens to a lib anymore.

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By CJ

February 11, 2007 08:21 AM | Link to this

Oh my. While the rest of the country moves back to center after experiencing the havoc that so-called conservatives have wreaked at the federal level, our Governor and state legislators continue their efforts to roll back a century of progress. They’re working to replace income taxes with a sales tax structure where the less money you make, the larger the percentage of your income you’ll pay – thereby shifting more of the tax burden to the working poor. In the meantime, they’re working to eliminate income taxes for workers over the age of 65, a relatively comfortable demographic among workers, resulting in the rest of us having to make up the difference. While attempting to reduce taxes for upper income families, Georgia Republicans are planning to kick thousands of children off of the PeachCare program, limit funding for successful pre-k programs, shift funding away from our already under funded public schools, and of course, build more prisons. LBJ declared war on poverty. Georgia “Christians” have declared war on the poor.

In addition, a story in today’s issue of the AJC indicates that, despite continual findings that so many innocent persons have been imprisoned and/or sentenced to death, Georgia legislators are considering a bill that would allow a judge to impose the death penalty if nine out of twelve jurors vote in favor of it (currently a unanimous vote is required). So, with all the evidence of an imperfect judicial system when it comes to convictions, Georgia wants to make it easier to impose the death penalty – easier to kill persons who were wrongly convicted.

I read Wooten’s editorial today about the “big ideas” coming in Georgia under the leadership of Georgia Republican politicians, Newt Gingrich, right-wing think tanks, and CEOs motivated by short-term profits, and I hang my head in shame. Georgia will come around one day, just as the rest of the country is beginning to — but I’m frustrated that from abolishing slavery to eliminating segregation to imposing civil rights to replacing the electric chair to removing the confederate symbol from our state flag to eliminating the death penalty forever to providing homosexual couples the same rights as heterosexual couples (in time, the last two will happen) — we always have to be dragged kicking and screaming.

By Bob

February 11, 2007 08:52 AM | Link to this

There are indicators that the Gov. is interested in both his legacy and a higher office. From his swearing in social activities to testifying before congress…the Perdue Machine is casting him as operating on a higher place in the feeding chain. He does not pass photo ops as a player in national polictics. In that context we may very well see progress..

By Jim's a Distractor

February 11, 2007 09:10 AM | Link to this

Hi Jim,

Is “No Child Left Behind” one of the “big ideas” you speak of?

Or Peach Care? Is that one?

Or Kelly’s GPPF proposal that we dig tunnels underneath Atlanta to help with traffic, a’la the Boston Big Dig corruption and waste fiasco? Is that one?

Oh…and the “Contract With America”? Is that a big idea. Newt’s sure got a big head, so I guess that must be a big idea.

Your think-tank big ideas are destined for failure, just like those of the Democrats that you constantly bemoan. You’re just more obnoxious about it.

Oh, and btw, Iraq is George Bush’s fault, and his alone.

By JSS

February 11, 2007 09:24 AM | Link to this

You asked for it, you got it, **Nothing!”

The last two legislative sessions have been the biggest wastes of taxpayer dollars in a very long time. Not since the 55-58 sessions has less been done and more harm been doled out. So right wingers, please tell me how reinstating predatory loans serves the public or private interests? The insurance and banking sectors just run rough shot under the dome. It is like the Gilded Age in this State and the damage will have far-reaching consequences long after Richardson-Cagle-Johnson and their defacto puppet master Lynn Westmoreland are dust. Free markets are great, but only if you have a conscience.

Jim Wooten and his ilk talk endlessly about moral truths, but what good is that when it is based on a lie?

By Curious Observer

February 11, 2007 09:26 AM | Link to this

Ah yes! The first thing I do when I’m having a medical crisis is to run a cost-benefit analysis before I call 911 for help. I look at the death rates for area hospitals. I analyze and compare costs of treatment. I examine my checking and savings accounts to determine what I can afford. I call my HMO to determine the level of coverage I will have, given various alternatives. I consider the tax consequences of alternative actions.

Then and only then—provided, of course, I’m still alive—I make a rational decision based on the information I’ve gathered.

In short, I take a Republican approach to medical care. I wouldn’t want to make a mistake. After all, Bad Decisions Have Consequences. I know I need to take Personal Responsibility. And I’m certain that if everybody took this approach, we would not have hundreds of thousands of Georgians without affordable medical care, the doctors and hospitals would immediately lower their prices, and the Free Market would reign in the area of medicine. Of course, realtors would have to gear up to accommodate the thousands of gated mansions that would flood the market, once the incomes of physicians and HMO executives fell to a level that made these piles unaffordable.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 09:34 AM | Link to this

JSS,

Have you ever considered that people would be smarter about not falling for scams and might make better life choices if they hadn’t been taught for the last forty years or so that the government would be there to save them from any consequence?

By Seriously

February 11, 2007 09:43 AM | Link to this

RW, are our soldiers stupid? Are they unable to make “better life choices?”

This bill keeps the tough rules and regulations in place for military personnel based in Georgia.

I guess our Georgia lawmakers don’t have much confidence in our military. They must think they are stupid and unable to make sound decisions. What a shame.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 09:45 AM | Link to this

Curious Observer,

Maybe you should think about those things before you have a medical crisis, you reckon?

By What's Up Wit Dis?

February 11, 2007 09:50 AM | Link to this

Jim’s blog has been open for business for 45 minutes now and there has been no personal attacks, no gay bashing, no name jacking, no vulgarity, no mindlessness.

Let me see, why is this happening?

Gosh, hmmmmm, let me think, uhhhh, Polly’s not here?

Yes, that’s it!

Nothing but normal, pointed, thoughtful, meaningful, policy debate.

You know, like what this is supposed to be about.

But, if you’re a pervert and enjoy the filth, don’t fret, Polly will be along shortly to spew it’s pestilence and slime all over everyone.

It should be great.

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By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 09:52 AM | Link to this

Seriously,

You’re not really living up to your name.

I said that people would be better off if their government nannies hadn’t been coddling them for the last few decades and you want to boil it all down to one bill in the legislature.

By Seriously

February 11, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

So you don’t support the new legislation, RW?

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Seriously,

I haven’t read the particular piece of legislation you’re so hung up on, but I doubt I would support it if it a) treats some people differently than others, or b) had government interfering in the free markets.

You are talking about one piece of legislation that is being bandied about in the Georgia state legislature and I’m talking about an overall ingrained dependence on government at all levels.

We aren’t even close to discussing the same things.

By Markus

February 11, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Peeping Tom sayeth:

“RW, are our soldiers stupid? Are they unable to make “better life choices?””

According to your jackass hero John Effin’ Kerry, that’s a big fat YES. Morons.

By Randy

February 11, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

CO, Can I assume that your comment @ 9:28 was delivered with sarcasm? Making the quality & cost of healthcare transparent serves to force all healthcare facilities to be competitive in the free market. They’re in the business of making money, not losing money.

The more market consumers you attract, the greater value you hold and offer the consumer. If a facility or provider is suffering a loss in consumers, then the more apt they are to offer something better.

It’s nice to know you’re into personal responsibility. If you don’t like what’s available out there, you can start your own HMO or healthcare facility and make the money you resent others having. Then you can buy one of those mansions in that gated community from the doctor or HMO exec that failed to meet the public demand.

Opportunity! It’s a wise man who opens the door when it knocks.

If you don’t like what the free market has to offer, there’s always your local government funded healthcare center.

By time for the truth

February 11, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Funny how the liberal party of hate media bigots have SULLENLY AVOIDED reporting an unsavoury truth about the intellectual lightweight nonenity Osama Obama. If he was completely white (instead of only half white) no one would give a flying toss about him!!

It seems he has for decades been hanging out with nasty religious black bigots

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/11/wus111.xml

By CDC Luxuary Jet and U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Michael Leavitt

February 11, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Will some Gonzo reporter please check the airports to see how U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Michael Leavitt arives in the Atlanta area, by commercial jet in coach class or on the CDC luxuary jet the neocon thief has stolen as his just due private luxuary liner? Remember, the Secretary is a political appointee, while the Speaker of the House is an elected representative. Yet the NEO-CONVICT get the private luxuary jet?

By Corky Cobb

February 11, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

And just how do you support the troops Marquis??? By hidding under your bed with your keyboard. Boo.

By Libby and Feith: Birds of a Feather

February 11, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Two of the pro israel lobby’s operatives in the US Government are now in the public spot light for their lies in support of the invasion of Iraq. If you want to identify other covert pro israel agents in the press, just look at who is defending these two liars, imho. The so called liberal Mike Lukovich today pubished a cartoon blasting Tim Russert for daring to testify against Libby. Michael Kinsley published a defense called “Free Scooter Libby” in this weeks Time magazine. The fanatical pro israel jews are circling their wagons around their two operatives, lest they join Frank Pollard in prision for acts of treason, imho.

By Markus

February 11, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Note how liberals always b!tch about gated communities for doctors and HMO executives, yet stay dead silent on lawyers like John “Slip-n-Fall” Edwards who make millions off idiotic lawsuits and build 28,000sf mansions. For the mentally challenged liberals in Midtown, lawsuits are a HUGE reason why healthcare costs are increasing exponentially. Hypocrats.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Opps, I accidently left RW out of the multi personality collective that thinks it rules this blog. Your stench gives you away, please was you AASSSS and other fishy smelling body parts, fat boy/girl/it.

By Corky Cobb

February 11, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

And just how do you support the troops Marquis??? By hidding under your bed with your keyboard. Boo.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Looks like the “newcomer” is back to screw up the blog again. Maybe Jim will learn one of these days.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

OK, I will stick with this By line for today, happy RW aka MarkASS, BiDanish, Dried Dirt Dusty?

By Corky Cobb

February 11, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Isn’t it great!!! All you neo-patriots like Marquis don’t have to go to Canada to escape the war anymore!!!

And just how do you support the troops Marquis??? By hidding under your bed with your keyboard. Boo.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

By the way, today is the 28th anniversary of another monumental failure of Jimmy Carter’s Presidency.

Remember those four awful years when you start thinking of voting for the Hillary/Obama ticket in 08.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

The truth about the report on Douglas Feith and pre-war intel, who dared challenge the incompetent CIA’s evaluations:

[WOOPSIE!!! That it some correction!! Looks like the WaPo took Sen. (D. Michigan) Karl Marx Levin’s comments and represented them as being from the Pentagon.(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/08/AR2007020802387_pf.html)

More here, from Hot Air. You’ll note that the phony beadline still stands at WaPo as does the original Jason Blairesque story which by now had made its way around the world and is being celebrated by Mullahs in the Middle East and by Democrats everywhere.

By Markus

February 11, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Hey corndog liberal ID freak-

How many Habitat For Humanity homes have you built lately? You DO care about the “poor” so much, don’t you? Why haven’t you stopped blogging and started volunteering your time to make other people’s lives better? Or are you just an armchair socialist warrior who types away with neoStalinist support of robbing others of THEIR money to pay for your culture wars? Sick liberal.

Oh yeah, one other thing. Why don’t you tell us all what YOU do to support the troops. Just one thing. Sick liberal.

By Markus

February 11, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

RW-

“You are talking about one piece of legislation that is being bandied about in the Georgia state legislature and I’m talking about an overall ingrained dependence on government at all levels. We aren’t even close to discussing the same things.”

It’s impossible to “debate” with a liberal. They let their emotions overload their cognitive thought process and logical reasoning. They can’t answer direct questions, they can’t answer simple yes or no questions, and they can’t stay on topic. They always try to drag you off into another topic when they can’t answer your topic. Then, if you are real lucky, they’ll jack your ID and call your mother names and you “sexually frustrated.” At least, that’s always been the case with me, which is why I don’t waste time with the sick liberals anymore.

Good luck. It’s going to be 55 today. I’m out.

By Redneck Convert

February 11, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Glad to see that Curious guy is so carefull about how he gets doctor care. Me, I’m skedaddling to the nearest hospitle. In my case, Northside in Forsyth. I have the best chance there of not being put in a room with one of Those People. My uncle Bo told me oncet that if you hang around Those People long enough, you turn into one.

Wouldn’t that be awful? I leave the hospitle having to ride MARTA. And even if I can steal a car, I get run off the road by some white dude. I have to live downtown and walk around with my pants down around my hips and playing a boom box real loud. Nobody will give me a loan and I have to find ways to get my hand on other peoples paycheck to pay for my meth and crack. And I have to march with Al Sharptongue and Jesse Jackass to get more guvmint handouts.

Anyway, I figure rail lines would work if they would make room for cars and pickup trucks on the trains. That way I would have a way to travel when I get to where I’m going. But I’m not doing without my pickup truck, I don’t care what the libruls say.

By jm

February 11, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Along the lines of making more educated choices, how about making every malpractice settlement open to the public for viewing. If a doctor or hospital I am considering settled a malpractice (either out of court or as the result of a court verdict) I want to know about it. Too often cases are settled out of court and the findings “sealed”. If you want people to make educated choices, then all information should be made available.

By Corky Cobb

February 11, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

And just how do you support the troops Marquis??? By hidding under your bed with your keyboard. Boo.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

WOOPS. I missed a bracket. Here’s the lengthy WaPo “Correction”

Marcus,

Happy Birthday!

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

John F’ng Kerry is on with Snuffalufagus, does anybody want to bet whether he can get through it without insulting the troops and flip/flopping mid sentence?

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

Cross off the flip/flopping mid sentence. That one’s already been accomplished so we’re down to insulting the troops.

By AstroPain

February 11, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

If the diaper dont fit, you must acquit.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I think Markus is talking about the weather, but just in case. Happy Birthday!

By Corky Cobb

February 11, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

I would love to see Marquis on one of those talk shows……

Question- Why aren’t you in Iraq?

Marquis- Did you build a house for Jimmy Carter?

Question- Are you glad war dodgers don’t have to go to Canada anymore?

Marquis- Heck yes. I just got a new Playstation.

Question- What have you done to support the troops.

Marquis- Thats an inappropriate question.

Question- I don’t think, so please answer.

Marquis- No comment

Question- You are scared to fight the terrorists aren’t you?

Marquis- I WANT MY MOMMIE!!!!!

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Looks like you libs might want to pack the Fitzmas decorations away again. With witnesses like these Libby will be on the big $$ speech circuit soon.

Not only do we have Andrea Mitchell basically telling CNBC that Libby had factual support for his claim about his conversation with Tim Russert, but we have strong indication from Mitchell’s words that Russert’s subsequent denials were untrue. The only thing that would serve to negate this would be the public efforts by Mitchell and Russert to discount what Mitchell said. This series of attempts to reinvent reality is strikingly similar to the conspiracy-theory nonsense about Libby and Cheney that has been coming out of NBC and MSNBC for months.

Russert’s apparent attempts to re-write the past continued throughout his testimony. When Wells questioned Russert about his “Christmas Eve” quote on a later Imus appearance, Russert claimed to “not recall” not only the quote, but the entirety of his appearance. So Russert does Libby one better, and forgets the call completely. This is pretty important stuff that hasn’t been reported in any Big Media accounts that I have read. This shows the star prosecution witness capable of forgetting entire conversations, while maintaining his certainty about the content of the Libby conversation to such perfection that he is willing to send Libby to jail over it.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Markus: “Mommy, please change my diaper, I definatley just sshhiitt my panties.”

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Kerry says he feels liberated that not running for President allows him to say what he thinks. The only thing it seems to have liberated him from is the botox shots, but I digress.

Kerry says we have to reduce our carbon footprint since he claims global warming is the most urgent thing the country has ever faced since he’s been in the Senate. Which of the mansions will be closing? Is Theresa giving up the G-5? He did say we couldn’t let Texas and China off the hook, I wonder if Algore has a Texas exemption?

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

RW - “I too want my mommy, because unless farts are lumpy, I definately just sshhiitt my panties.”

By TW

February 11, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

If Snuffalufagus could schedule Huckabee every weekend he’d put Jon Stewart out of business…hilarious…

By Curious Observer

February 11, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

So the medical industry is a free market! It’s news to me.

I always thought that the number of physicians was strictly regulated by virtue of the paucity of medical schools and the requirement that applicants have a recommendation from a medical doctor as a condition of entry, not to mention licensing requirements overseen by the medical community. It’s the closest thing to the medieval trade guilds we have.

And I always thought that the number of hospitals was strictly regulated by regional governmental authorities and accreditation requirements by the medical community.

It sounds like an oligopoly to me. Otherwise, we would have profit-oriented hospitals opening in multiple locations in all communities, and we wouldn’t be excluding so many graduates of foreign medical schools.

Pardon me for my mistaken impressions.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Polly “newcomer” Prepuce,

Watch yourself junior or Mr. Wooten might warn you again.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

I see the stinky poopy monster has crawled out from under the bed of Liberalism to make an appearance.

What a disgusting loser.

Marcus,

Enjoy the sunny day, and happy birthday whenever that is!

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Yo, Dummies, this war is not about Republicans vs Democrats, it is about Treason in High Places. The pro israel lobby funded much of the Bush campaign, and as a reward got its operatives placed in high government jobs. Other pro israel operatives were elected to Congress via funding from pro israel groups. All operated behind the scenes to drive America to war with the Arab world, starting with Iraq. Afghanistan was a just response to 9/11, but has now been incorporated into the war on Muslims. Until we address the true problem, that of a foreign power getting its operatives in control of the US government, we are ffuucckking doomed. The foreign power will drain us of wealth, troops, and weapons systems while safely watching from the sidelines, and cutting their own deals for profit. Wake up America, or start bowing toward Tela Aviv.

By jm

February 11, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

For those of you who see only the beauty of privitizing government services, I would recommend reading Oliver North’s column: http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20070210-101936-2608r.htm

It is always enjoyable to see a true believer foisted by his own petard.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

I ain’t no stinking liberal, as they are owned and operated by the pro israel lobby. I am just a concerned citizen who is trying to protect his country from foreign influenced decisions to make war an people just because of their religon or ethnicity. The war is between jews and Arab/Muslims and america should stay the hell out of it. No money or weapons for either side, and we sure as hell should not be fighting for isreal against arabs in Iraq. Where do you think torture of arab suspects came from? It is standard israeli treatment of arabs. Waterboarding is a Mossad technique of torture. I am disgusted with the corruption of our democracy by the pro israel lobby buying elections for politicians who agree to support Israel first and foremost. We are being robbed blind by the pro israel fanatics, and most of you are too stupid to understand. The jews call the non jews goiym, which means animal in Hebrew. It appears most of you fit the description.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

When Senator McCarthy tried to get the foreign spies like Alger Hiss out of our government he was vilified.

Oh and he was right too.

By Dennis

February 11, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten said, “The critical mass is not around radical ideas, but around the concept that consumers with information, incentive and choice will behave rationally, and everybody will benefit, including taxpayers.”

In short, then, Mr. Wooten, an informed consumer will make the “best choices”? Let’s say that’s correct and then apply that to political elections as well.

Where have you and the conservative press been while Sen. Roberts of Kansas refused to release Phase Two of the Senate Intelligence Committee report on pre-war intelligence on Iraq; what the White House knew, when they knew it, and how they used that information to determine to attack Iraq?

The senator stated in effect that he didn’t want to release the report prior to the 2004 elections because he did not want the report to influence the outcome of the elections.

In other words, if the consumer (the voter) had that information available to him, the consumer (the voter) might make a “bad choice”?

Thankfully, Mr. Wooten, inspite of Sen. Roberts, inspite of the conservative press, inspite of conservative writers, the “consumer” has seen through the fog.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By getalife

February 11, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

“Rep. Rohrabacher: Global Warming May Have Been Caused By ‘Dinosaur Flatulence’”

There ya go PF.

I yield the blog.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

RW - There were far fewer communist in our government in the 1950’s then there are pro israel jews and other operatives today. As long as the communist in america were loyal to america and not to russia, they should have been free to believe in that political persuasion. Senator McCarthy was wrong to pursue them for their political beliefs, but he was absolutely correct to pursue them if they were loyal to Russia and acting for the benefit of russia in their official acts. That is what makes the pro israel operatives traitors, their official acts within the us government are not for the benefit of america, rather they are for the benefit of Israel. The pro israel lobby tries to blur this line by saying “what is good for israel is good for america.” But this is no correct, as our invasion of Iraq has been very good for isreal, and very very bad for america.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

jm,

What does your story have to do with privatisation?

By Huge

February 11, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

These Bush-bot idiots have from day one, consistently shown themselves to be the antithesis of statesmanship.

In the run-up to the Iraq war, Rumsfeld sharply criticized nations opposed to the conflict — specifically France and Germany — referring to them as “Old Europe.”

Without mentioning Rumsfeld’s name, Gates said some people have tried to divide the allies into categories — such as east and west, north versus south.

“I’m even told that some have even spoken in terms of ‘old’ Europe versus ‘new,’” Gates said. “All of these characterizations belong in the past.”

As do these arrogant, incompetent and gutless neo-cons themselves. And based on what happened in last November’s elections, it’s starting to happen.

Hallelujah!

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

12:04,

Pardon me if I choose not to take the word of a foul mouthed blogger on the subject of government infiltration.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

That’s the attitude RW, attack the messenger and not the message. Bring it on, stinky pants or is it panties?

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Or is it diapers RW?

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Polly,

It’s pretty simple. We have the Venona papers proving that McCarthy was right about our government being infiltrated by Soviet spies vs. your anti-semitism. Not much to discuss.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Leave it to pathetically warped neo-cons to portray Joe McCarthy as one of the good guys! Once a slimeball, always a slimeball?

It is well documented that McCarthy exaggerated his war record. He claimed to have enlisted as a “buck private,” though due to his automatic commission he entered basic training as an officer. He flew 12 combat missions as a gunner-observer, but later claimed 32 missions in order to qualify for a Distinguished Flying Cross, which he received in 1952. McCarthy publicized a letter of commendation signed by his commanding officer and countersigned by Admiral Chester Nimitz, but it was revealed that McCarthy had written this letter himself, in his capacity as intelligence officer. A “war wound” that McCarthy made the subject of varying stories involving airplane crashes or antiaircraft fire was in fact received aboard ship during an initiation ceremony for sailors who cross the equator for the first time.

And you, the demented 25% that still carries water for the worst president in the history of the nation, rag on Kerry’s Purple Heart!!!

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Wrong poppy butt RW - We have Frank Pollard in prison for spying for israel, we have libby and filty feith, with more to come soon. Parts of the FBI are not under the control of the pro israel crowd, and they are hot pursuit. Now do take a shower, as your stench is fogging my monitor.

By getalife

February 11, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

“President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia accused the United States on Saturday of provoking a new nuclear arms race by developing ballistic missile defenses, undermining international institutions and making the Middle East more unstable through its clumsy handling of the Iraq war.”

We know Vlad.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Awwwww. Get me a violin.

Huge Blowhard is offended by the terms “Old Europe” versus “New Europe”.

By Dusty

February 11, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

Curious Observer,

Some of your observations seem credible. Hospitals do have regulations and inspections, all of which are necessary.

They do not want doctors with phony credentials that graduated quickly from “island” med schools or any unlicensed school.

They also do not want doctors with other liabilites such as drug and alcohol problems and poor professional records from other hospitals. Doctors trained in foreign countries are tested by the ECFMG exam which will not allow them a license to practice if they are under standard.

There are professional committees in every hospital who seek to rid the facility of dangerous or phony doctors. There are also requirements for nurses, medical technologists and many other hospital workers. IT IS ALL FOR YOUR PROTECTION.

You can read about the tragedies of people who go to “quacks” for cheap treatment or to other countries where there are no inspections or license requirements in medical facilities.

Jim is talking about our state government which is studying the problem of costly healthcare. It is a tough one because it is very hard to get “good” medicine on the cheap.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Something tells me the bigot wouldn’t know a violin if one fell in her huge lap. But I’ll bet curly and markie mark can attest to the fact that she plays a mean skin flute!

Look in the bushes, bigot! I think I see a commie! And what’s that under your bed? A Michigan mooslim? Surge, bigot, surge!

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

Nice little obfuscation, but smearing the man and ignoring the subject is all we’ve come to expect from you.

Beavis,

Assuming you mean Jonathan Pollard he was convicted in the 1980’s and had been a CIVILIAN intelligence analyst. Libby will soon be walking free with NO conviction and should file a civil suit against the Justice Dept and Fitzfong if that’s doable under the law. The Feith story is some of the most unethical journalism I’ve seen. The Washington Post takes dictation from Carl Levin and claims it’s a Pentagon report. Of course they know idiots will buy it so if they don’t care about their integrity that’s their business.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 01:04 PM | Link to this

Carl Levin is one of the covert pro israel jews in the dummycrat party, imho. He is what is known as a “sleeper” who will only awake when he is needed to protect israel and its cowardly lobby. They work on both sides of the isle and the issue, so they can steer america in the pro israel direction at all times.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 01:13 PM | Link to this

Something tells me the bigot wouldn’t know a violin if one fell in her huge lap.

Huge Loser,

I don’t know, maybe in your circle of jerks (pun intended) knowing what a violin looks like might represent some sort of arcane knowledge.

I am completely unscathed from your pitiful attack. I suggest you try your nanny nanny boo boo tactics with your playpen pals and cage mates.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 01:20 PM | Link to this

We? Do you have a mouse in your pocket, ricky? Or maybe you’re actually sybil? Or maybe the bigot is over and your messaging her impenetrable alligator like skin? Be a man and start standing on your own two feet, boy!

The point is that your love for McCarthy is illustrative in explaining why you neo-cons are so fvcked up and warped.

Politically you share his unmistakable characteristics with the Klan and the Nazis.

You cretins simply have to have someone, ANYONE, to hate and look down on. It is the only thing that gives your sorry little 24/7 blogging lives any meaning or purpose.

And now that you can’t really get away with terrorizing blacks or women in this country anymore, you’ve just moved on. First to commies, then the SE Asians, then Hispanics. And now of course, all Muslims.

And just like that POS from the 50’s, you dipsh!ts can never actually substantiate your moronic claims, no matter the topic. But it’s comedic to watch you spin and twist instead!

So he’s gone down in history as a arrogant twerp that lived for and loved trying to ruin the lives of innocent people.

Some hero, you dirtbags have…

By Liz

February 11, 2007 01:21 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, you stink so bad no one can stand to be around you. Take a shower as often as necessary to reduce the stench a little, for humanity’s sake. Thank you

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 01:32 PM | Link to this

Today’s Parade lists their top twenty dictators and Hugo Chavez didn’t make the list. Of course Parade also said in today’s edition that Barbaro is in stable condition and while that may be true in a technical sense it isn’t what they meant.

Blowhard,

You can’t name one innocent person McCarthy ever destroyed. Why aren’t you going after the Jew basher here today while you’re on your tolerance crusade?

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 01:32 PM | Link to this

MidoriLIZ,

You are one psychotic parrot and arrived right on schedule. Stop projecting your hygiene problems onto me. Maybe Huge Loser will clean your cage for you.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 01:44 PM | Link to this

Jew basher? Help me out here moron? What are you referring to?

Bigot, your affinity for scatalogical matters is well known, so quit pretending to be so modest.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 01:59 PM | Link to this

Dipstick ricky,

Your disgusting hero TRIED to destroy innocent American lives by the dozens, you moron. If you had ever read anything on the topic, you’d would stop embarrassing yourself further by trying to defend him.

The fact that people of conscience, morality and intellect like Edward R. Murrow helped shut him down is the most important point.

Too bad for you that your empty soul wishes he had succeeded.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 02:00 PM | Link to this

Bigot, your affinity for scatalogical matters is well known, so quit pretending to be so modest

Huge Blind Mouse,

I know filth when I see it, if that’s what you mean.

Like the filth from the Jew hater you so conveniently ignore despite his numerous filthy posts. (Also note how he admits posting using another name):

*By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person *

February 11, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Opps, I accidently left RW out of the multi personality collective that thinks it rules this blog. Your stench gives you away, please was you AASSSS and other fishy smelling body parts, fat boy/girl/it.

…It began there and has deterioriated as the day goes on.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 02:09 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

The fact remains that you can’t name a single innocent person he destroyed or even the ones you now claim he tried to destroy. Funny how every time you’re proved wrong you just change the parameters of the discussion. Now run off and get the Wiki link of the Hollywood group that didn’t have a damn thing to do with the Senate.

Here’s some helpful relationship advice for you since I’m feeling ambivalent today. When you’re with “One Voice” later try to remember that blow is just a figure of speech.

By Gypsy

February 11, 2007 02:17 PM | Link to this

speaking of cages, who let Buy Danish out of hers?

she is one paranoid dumbshiit. A smelly one too.

and this blog deteriorated the moment her foul presence showed up.

she has made so many enemies here, she’s starting to see imaginary ones too.

what a toxic shrew.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 02:21 PM | Link to this

On topic!

Here’s a health insurance plan from Mitt Romney we should be watching carefully and possibly emulating.

For those of you who like to shoot the messenger and immediately disregard anything that appears in the WSJ, here is NPRs take on the same subject.

I trust that our legislature is paying attention.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 02:28 PM | Link to this

Wrong Dirty Danish, I don’t hate jews, but I do hate traitors. Since half my family is jewish (the half I like) it pains me to post these observations and complaints. Nevertheless, treason is treason and must be delt with or the union is lost.

By Gypsy

February 11, 2007 02:28 PM | Link to this

I thought the only topic you could stay on was how great you are, and how stupid everyone else is, toxic shrew?

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 02:31 PM | Link to this

RW you idiot, being a communist loyal to the united states of america is not now nor should it have ever been a crime. You said “Blowhard,

You can’t name one innocent person McCarthy ever destroyed. Why aren’t you going after the Jew basher here today while you’re on your tolerance crusade?” Many actors and directors were ban from working in their field, scientist could not pursue work in their field, and many politicians were destroyed. Do I need to do an internet search for you to name names?

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 02:34 PM | Link to this

Partial list of people hurt by Mccarthism:

Protestors opposing the jailing of the Hollywood Ten in 1950 (from the 1987 documentary Legacy of the Hollywood Blacklist).The Hollywood blacklist—more properly the entertainment industry blacklist, into which it expanded—was the mid-twentieth-century list of screenwriters, actors, directors, musicians, and other U.S. entertainment professionals who were denied employment in the field because of their political beliefs or associations, real or suspected. Artists were barred from work on the basis of their alleged membership in or sympathy toward the American Communist Party, involvement in liberal or simply humanitarian political causes that enforcers of the blacklist associated with communism, and/or refusal to assist federal investigations into Communist Party activities; some were blacklisted merely because their names came up at the wrong place and time. Even during the period of its strictest enforcement, the late 1940s through the late 1950s, the blacklist was rarely made explicit and verifiable, but it caused direct damage to the careers of scores of American artists, often made betrayal of friendship (not to mention principle) the price for a livelihood, and promoted ideological censorship across the entire industry.

The first blacklist was instituted on November 25, 1947, the day after ten writers and directors were cited for contempt of Congress for refusing to give testimony to the House Committee on Un-American Activities. A group of studio executives, acting under the aegis of the Motion Picture Association of America, announced the firing of the artists—the so-called Hollywood Ten—in what has become known as the Waldorf Statement. On June 22, 1950, a pamphlet called Red Channels appeared, naming 151 entertainment industry professionals in the context of “Red Fascists and their sympathizers”—this was the most publicized explicit blacklist ever issued; in addition to those named, dozens of other artists found it equally difficult, in many cases impossible, to get work in the entertainment field. The blacklist was officially broken in 1960 when Dalton Trumbo, an unrepentant member of the Hollywood Ten, was publicly acknowledged as the screenwriter of the films Spartacus and Exodus; a number of those blacklisted, however, were still barred from work in their professions for years afterward.

Contents [hide] 1 Overview 1.1 The blacklist begins (1947) 1.2 The list grows (1948–50) 1.3 HUAC returns (1951) 1.4 The height of the blacklist (1952–56) 1.5 The decline and fall of the blacklist (1957–present) 2 The blacklist 2.1 The Hollywood Ten and other 1947 blacklistees 2.1.1 The Hollywood Ten 2.1.2 Others 2.2 Persons first blacklisted between January 1948 and June 1950 2.3 The Red Channels blacklist 2.4 Persons first blacklisted after June 1950 2.5 Other blacklisted entertainment professionals 3 Notes 4 Sources 4.1 Published 4.2 Online 5 Additional links

[edit] Overview

[edit] The blacklist begins (1947) The Hollywood blacklist is rooted in events of the 1930s and the early 1940s. During that era, long before the horrors of Soviet premier Joseph Stalin’s rule became common knowledge in the West, the American Communist Party attracted a large number of followers, many of them young idealists in the field of arts and entertainment. During World War II, when the United States and the Soviet Union were allies, membership in the American Communist Party reached a peak of 50,000.[1]

The 1947 HUAC hearings in session.Perceptions changed soon after the end of World War II, with communism increasingly becoming a focus of American fears and hatred. The “Second Red Scare” was spurred both by reports of Soviet repression in Eastern and Central Europe in the war’s aftermath and the growth of conservative political influence in the U.S. following the Republican triumph in the 1946 Congressional elections, which saw the party take control of both the House and Senate. In October 1947, a number of persons working in the Hollywood film industry were summoned to appear before the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC), which had declared its intention to investigate whether, as described by scholar Richard A. Schwartz, “Communist agents had succeeded in implanting Communist messages and values in Hollywood films.”[2] This group of American movie professionals—primarily screenwriters, but actors, directors, producers, and others as well—were either known or alleged to have been members of the American Communist Party. Of the forty-three people put on the witness list, a total of nineteen declared that they would not give evidence, of whom eleven were actually called before the committee. Of the eleven “unfriendly witnesses,” one, emigré playwright Bertolt Brecht, ultimately chose to answer the committee’s questions.[3] The other ten refused, citing their First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and assembly. The crucial question they rebuffed is now generally rendered as “Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?”—which was not and had never been illegal.[4] (In fact, each had at one time or another been a member; some still were, while others had been in the past and only briefly.) These ten were formally accused of contempt of Congress and proceedings against them began in the full House of Representatives.

In light of the “Hollywood Ten“‘s defiance of HUAC—in addition to refusing to testify, many had attempted to read statements decrying the committee’s investigation as unconstitutional—political pressure mounted on the film industry to demonstrate its “anti-subversive” bona fides. In October, with the hearings still under way, Eric Johnston, president of the Motion Picture Association of America, declared that he would never “employ any proven or admitted Communist because they are just a disruptive force and I don’t want them around.”[5] On November 17, 1947, the Screen Actors Guild voted to make its officers swear to a non-Communist pledge. The following week, on November 24, 1947, the House of Representatives voted 346 to 17 to approve citations against the Hollywood Ten for contempt of Congress. The next day, following a meeting of film industry executives at New York’s Waldorf-Astoria hotel, MPAA president Johnston issued a press release on the executives’ behalf that is today referred to as the Waldorf Statement.[6] The statement declared that the ten would be fired or suspended without pay and not reemployed until they were both cleared of contempt charges and had sworn that they were not Communists. The first Hollywood blacklist was now in effect.

[edit] The list grows (1948–50) The HUAC hearings had failed to turn up any evidence that Hollywood was secretly disseminating Communist propaganda, but the industry was nonetheless transformed. The fallout from the inquiry was a factor in the decision by Floyd Odlum, the primary owner of RKO Pictures, to get out of the business.[7] As a result, the studio would pass into the hands of Howard Hughes; within weeks of taking over in May 1948, Hughes fired most of RKO’s employees and virtually shut the studio down for half a year as he had the political sympathies of the rest investigated. Then, just as RKO swung back into production, Hughes made the decision to settle a long-standing federal antitrust suit against the industry’s Big Five studios. This would be one of the crucial steps in the collapse of the studio system that had governed Hollywood, and ruled much of world cinema, for a quarter-century.

In the spring of 1948, as well, all of the Hollywood Ten were convicted of contempt. Following a series of unsuccessful appeals, the cases arrived before the Supreme Court; among the submissions filed in defense of the ten was an amicus curiae brief signed by 204 Hollywood professionals. After the court denied review, the Hollywood Ten began serving one-year prison sentences in 1950. In September 1950, one of the ten, director Edward Dmytryk, publicly announced that he had once been a Communist and was prepared to give evidence against others who had been as well. He was released early from jail; following his 1951 HUAC appearance, in which he described his brief membership in the party and named names, his career recovered.[8] The others remained silent and most were unable to obtain work in the American film and television industry for many years after. In the case of Adrian Scott, who had produced four of Dmytryk’s films—Murder, My Sweet; Cornered; So Well Remembered; and Crossfire—and was one of those named by his former friend, his next screen credit would not come until 1972 and he would never produce another feature film. Some of those blacklisted continued to write for Hollywood or the broadcasting industry surreptitiously, using pseudonyms or the names of friends who posed as the actual writers (those who allowed their names to be used in this fashion were called “fronts”). Of the 204 who signed the amicus brief, 84 would be blacklisted themselves.[9]

A number of nongovernmental organizations participated in enforcing and expanding the blacklist; in particular, the American Legion, the conservative war veterans’ group, was instrumental in pressuring the entertainment industry to exclude those of political sympathies it disagreed with. In 1949, the Americanism division of the Legion issued its own blacklist—a roster of 128 names it claimed were all participants in the “Communist Conspiracy.” Among the names on the Legion’s list was that of well-known playwright Lillian Hellman.[10] Hellman had written or contributed to the screenplays of approximately ten motion pictures up to that point; she wouldn’t be employed again by a Hollywood studio until 1966. Another influential group was American Business Consultants Inc., founded in 1947. In the subscription information for its weekly publication Counterattack, “The Newsletter of Facts to Combat Communism,” it declared that it was run by “a group of former FBI men. It has no affiliation whatsoever with any government agency.” Notwithstanding that claim, it seems the editors of Counterattack had direct access to the files of both the Federal Bureau of Investigation and HUAC; the results of that access became widely apparent with the June 1950 publication of Red Channels. This Counterattack spinoff listed 151 people in entertainment and broadcast journalism along with records of their involvement in what the pamphlet meant to be taken as Communist or pro-Communist activities.[11] A few of those named, such as Hellman, were already being denied employment in the motion picture, TV, and radio fields; the publication of Red Channels meant that scores more were placed on the blacklist.

[edit] HUAC returns (1951) In 1951, HUAC held a second investigation of Hollywood and Communism. By this time, the legal tactics of those refusing to testify changed; instead of relying on the First Amendment, they invoked the Fifth Amendment’s shield against self-incrimination (though, in fact, Communist Party membership would never be made illegal). While this usually allowed a witness to avoid “naming names” without being indicted for contempt of Congress, “taking the Fifth” before HUAC guaranteed that one would be added to the industry blacklist.

Scholar Thomas Doherty describes how the HUAC hearings swept onto the blacklist those who had never even been particularly active politically, let alone suspected of being Communists:

[O]n March 21, 1951, the name of the actor Lionel Stander was uttered by the actor Larry Parks during testimony before HUAC. “Do you know Lionel Stander?” committee counsel Frank S. Tavenner inquired. Parks replied he knew the man, but had no knowledge of his political affiliations. No more was said about Stander either by Parks or the committee—no accusation, no insinuation. Yet Stander’s phone stopped ringing. Prior to Parks’s testimony, Stander had worked on ten television shows in the previous 100 days. Afterwards, nothing.[12]

[edit] The height of the blacklist (1952–56) In 1952, the Screen Writers Guild—which had been founded two decades before by three future members of the Hollywood Ten—authorized the movie studios to “omit from the screen” the names of any individuals who had failed to clear themselves before Congress. Writer Dalton Trumbo, for instance, one of the Hollywood Ten and still very much on the blacklist, had received screen credit in 1950 for writing, years earlier, the story on which the screenplay of Columbia Pictures’ Emergency Wedding was based. There would be no more of that until the 1960s. The name of Albert Maltz, who had written the original screenplay for The Robe in the mid-1940s, was nowhere to be seen when the movie was released in 1953.[13]

As William O’Neill describes, pressure was maintained even on those who had ostensibly “cleared” themselves:

On December 27, 1952, the American Legion announced that it disapproved of a new film, Moulin Rouge, starring José Ferrer, who used to be no more progressive than hundreds of other actors and had already been grilled by HUAC. The picture itself was based on the life of Toulouse-Lautrec and was totally apolitical. Nine members of the Legion had picketed it anyway, giving rise to the controversy. By this time people were not taking any chances. Ferrer immediately wired the Legion’s national commander that he would be glad to join the veterans in their “fight against communism.”[14]

During this era, a number of influential newspaper columnists covering the entertainment industry, including Walter Winchell, Hedda Hopper, Victor Riesel, Jack O’Brian, and George Sokolsky, regularly offered up names with the suggestion that they should be added to the blacklist.[15]

The Hollywood blacklist had long gone hand in hand with the Red-baiting activities of J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI. Adversaries of HUAC such as lawyer Bartley Crum, who defended some of the Hollywood Ten in front of the committee in 1947, were labeled as Communist sympathizers or subversives and targeted for investigation themselves. Throughout the 1950s, the FBI tapped Crum’s phones, opened his mail, and placed him under continuous surveillance. As a result, he lost most of his clients and, unable to cope with the stress of ceaseless harassment, committed suicide in 1959.[16]

[edit] The decline and fall of the blacklist (1957–present) A key figure in bringing an end to blacklisting was John Henry Faulk. Host of an afternoon comedy radio show, Faulk was a leftist active in his union, the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. He was scrutinized by AWARE, one of the private firms that examined individuals for signs of communist “disloyalty”. Marked by AWARE as unfit, he was fired by CBS Radio. Almost uniquely among the many victims of blacklisting, Faulk decided to sue AWARE in 1957.[17] Though the case would drag through the courts for years, the suit itself was an important symbol of the building resistance to the blacklist.

The initial cracks in the entertainment industry blacklist were evident on television: on November 30, 1958, a live CBS production of Wonderful Town, based on short stories written by then-Communist Ruth McKenney, appeared with the proper writing credit of blacklisted Edward Chodorov, along with his literary partner, Joseph Fields.[18] The first main break in the Hollywood blacklist would follow a little more than a year later: on January 20, 1960, director Otto Preminger publicly announced that Dalton Trumbo, one of the best known members of the Hollywood Ten, was the screenwriter of his forthcoming film Exodus. Six-and-a-half months later, with Exodus still to debut, the New York Times announced that Universal Pictures would give Trumbo screen credit for his role as writer on Spartacus, a decision star Kirk Douglas is now recognized as largely responsible for.[19] On October 6, Spartacus premiered—the first movie to bear Trumbo’s name since he had received story credit on Emergency Wedding in 1950. Since 1947, he had written or cowritten approximately seventeen motion pictures without credit. Exodus followed in December, also bearing Trumbo’s name. The blacklist was now clearly coming to an end, but its effects would reverberate for years to come.

John Henry Faulk finally won his lawsuit in 1962. With this court decision, the private blacklisters and those who used them were put on notice that blacklisting was liable. This helped to bring an end to publications such as Counterattack.[20] As late as 2000, the Screen Writers Guild was still pursuing the correction of screen credits from movies of the 1950s and early 1960s to properly reflect the work of blacklisted writers such as Hugo Butler and Carl Foreman.[21]

[edit] The blacklist

The Hollywood Ten in November 1947 waiting to be fingerprinted in the U.S. Marshal’s office after being cited for contempt of Congress. Front row (from left): Herbert Biberman, attorneys Martin Popper and Robert W. Kenny, Albert Maltz, Lester Cole. Middle row: Dalton Trumbo, John Howard Lawson, Alvah Bessie, Samuel Ornitz. Back row: Ring Lardner Jr., Edward Dmytryk, Adrian Scott. [edit] The Hollywood Ten and other 1947 blacklistees

[edit] The Hollywood Ten Alvah Bessie, screenwriter Herbert Biberman, screenwriter and director Lester Cole, screenwriter Edward Dmytryk, director Ring Lardner, Jr., screenwriter John Howard Lawson, screenwriter Albert Maltz, screenwriter Samuel Ornitz, screenwriter Adrian Scott, producer and screenwriter Dalton Trumbo, screenwriter

[edit] Others Hanns Eisler, composer (Herman 1997: 356; Dick 1989: 7) Bernard Gordon, screenwriter (Gordon 1999: 16) Joan Scott, screenwriter (Ceplair and Englund 2003: 403; Goldstein 1999)

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[edit] Persons first blacklisted between January 1948 and June 1950 (an asterisk after the entry indicates the person was also listed in Red Channels)

Ben Barzman, screenwriter (Ceplair and Englund 2003: 401) Lillian Hellman, playwright and screenwriter* (Newman 1989: 140) William Sweets, radio personality* (Cogley 1956: 25–28) Please help improve this article by expanding this section. Further information might be found on the talk page or at requests for expansion. Please remove this message once the section has been expanded. This article has been tagged since January 2007.

[edit] The Red Channels blacklist (see, e.g., Schrecker [2002], p. 244; Barnouw [1990], pp. 122–124)

Larry Adler, actor and musician Luther Adler, actor and director Stella Adler, actress and teacher Edith Atwater, actress Howard Bay, scenic designer Ralph Bell, actor Leonard Bernstein, composer and conductor Walter Bernstein, screenwriter Michael Blankfort, screenwriter Marc Blitzstein, composer True Boardman, screenwriter Millen Brand, writer Oscar Brand, folk singer Joseph Edward Bromberg, actor Himan Brown, producer and director John Brown, actor Abe Burrows, playwright and lyricist Morris Carnovsky, actor Vera Caspary, writer Edward Chodorov, screenwriter and producer Jerome Chodorov, writer Mady Christians, actress Lee J. Cobb, actor Marc Connelly, playwright Aaron Copland, composer Norman Corwin, writer Howard Da Silva, actor Roger De Koven, actor Dean Dixon, conductor Olin Downes, music critic Alfred Drake, actor Paul Draper, actor and dancer Howard Duff, actor Clifford J. Durr, attorney Richard Dyer-Bennett, folk singer José Ferrer, actor Louise Fitch (Lewis), actress Martin Gabel, actor Arthur Gaeth, radio commentator William S. Gailmor, journalist and radio commentator John Garfield, actor Will Geer, actor Jack Gilford, actor Tom Glazer, folk singer Ruth Gordon, actress and screenwriter Lloyd Gough, actor Morton Gould, pianist and composer Shirley Graham, writer Ben Grauer, radio and TV personality Mitchell Grayson, radio producer and director Horace Grenell, conductor and music producer Uta Hagen, actress and teacher Dashiell Hammett, writer E. Y. “Yip” Harburg, composer Robert P. Heller, television journalist Lillian Hellman, playwright and screenwriter Nat Hiken, writer and producer Rose Hobart, actress Judy Holliday, actress Roderick B. Holmgren, journalist Lena Horne, singer and actress Langston Hughes, writer Marsha Hunt, actress Leo Hurwitz, director Charles Irving, actor Burl Ives, folk singer and actor Sam Jaffe, actor Leon Janney, actor Joseph Julian, actor Garson Kanin, writer and director George Keane, actor Donna Keath Pert Kelton, actress Alexander Kendrick Adelaide Klein, actress Felix Knight, singer and actor Howard Koch screenwriter Tony Kraber, actor Millard Lampell, screenwriter John La Touche, lyricist Arthur Laurents, writer Gypsy Rose Lee, actress and ecdysiast Madeline Lee, actress1 Ray Lev, classical pianist Philip Loeb, actor Ella Logan, actress and singer Alan Lomax, folklorist and musicologist Avon Long, actor and singer Joseph Losey, director Peter Lyon, television writer Aline MacMahon, actress Paul Mann, director and teacher Margo, actress and dancer Myron McCormick, actor Paul McGrath, radio actor Burgess Meredith, actor Arthur Miller, playwright Henry Morgan, radio and TV comedian Zero Mostel, actor Jean Muir, actress Meg Mundy, actress Lynn Murray Ben Myers Dorothy Parker, writer Arnold Perl, radio writer Minerva Pious, actress Samson Raphaelson, screenwriter and playwright Bernard Reis Anne Revere, actress Kenneth Roberts, writer Earl Robinson, composer and lyricist Edward G. Robinson, actor William N. Robson, radio and TV writer Harold Rome, composer and lyricist Norman Rosten, writer Selena Royle, actress Coby Ruskin, TV director Robert St. John, journalist Hazel Scott, jazz and classical musician Pete Seeger, folk singer Lisa Sergio, radio personality Artie Shaw, jazz musician Irwin Shaw, writer Robert Louis Shayon, former president of radio and TV directors’ guild Ann Shepherd, actress William L. Shirer, journalist Allan Sloane, radio and TV writer Howard K. Smith, journalist Gale Sondergaard, actress Hester Sondergaard, actress Lionel Stander, actor Johannes Steel, journalist Paul Stewart, actor Elliott Sullivan, actor William Sweets, radio personality Helen Tamiris, choreographer Betty Todd, director Louis Untermeyer, poet Hilda Vaughn, actress J. Raymond Walsh, radio commentator Sam Wanamaker, actor Theodore Ward, playwright Fredi Washington, actress Margaret Webster, actress, director and producer Orson Welles, actor, writer and director Josh White, blues musician Irene Wicker, singer and actress Betty Winkler (Keane), actress Martin Wolfson, actor Lesley Woods, actress Richard Yaffe, journalist

Note 1: Madeline Lee—who was married to actor Jack Gilford, also listed by Red Channels—was frequently confused with another actress of the era named Madaline Lee.

[edit] Persons first blacklisted after June 1950 Phoebe Brand, actress (Schwartz 1999; Buhle and Wagner 2003: 50) Charles Dagget, animator (Cohen 2004: 178) Phil Eastman, cartoon writer (Cohen 2004: 178) Carl Foreman, producer and screenwriter (Buhle and Wagner 2003: xi) Michael Gordon, director (Dick 1982: 80) John Hubley, animator (Cohen 2004: 178) Lester Koenig, producer (Herman 1997: 356) Lewis Leverett, actor (Schwartz 1999) John McGrew, animator (Cohen 2004: 178) Bill Melendez, animator (Cohen 2004: 178) Paula Miller, actress (Schwartz 1999) Waldo Salt, screenwriter (Buhle and Wagner 2003: 208) Bill Scott, voice actor (Cohen 2004: 178) Art Smith, actor (Schwartz 1999) Lionel Stander, actor (Doherty 2003: 31) Michael Wilson, screenwriter (Buhle and Wagner 2003: vii) Please help improve this article by expanding this section. Further information might be found on the talk page or at requests for expansion. Please remove this message once the section has been expanded. This article has been tagged since January 2007.

[edit] Other blacklisted entertainment professionals This is a partial list of other blacklisted entertainers:

Allen Adler, screenwriter Edgar Barrier, actor Orson Bean, actor Barbara Bel Geddes, actress Herschel Bernardi, actor Joseph Bernard, actor John Berry, actor, screenwriter and director Allen Boretz, songwriter Lloyd Bridges, actor Phillip Mortimer Brown, actor Sidney Buchman, screenwriter Hugo Butler, screenwriter Charles Chaplin, actor, director and producer Jeff Corey, actor John Cromwell director Jules Dassin, director Cy Endfield, screenwriter and director Brian Eubanks, attorney John Henry Faulk, radio personality Jerry Fielding, composer Betty Garrett, actress Lee Grant, actress Sterling Hayden, actor Sidney Kingsley, playwright Paul Jarrico, producer and screenwriter Gordon Kahn, screenwriter Victor Kilian, actor Alexander Knox, actor Marc Lawrence, actor Canada Lee, actor Robert Lees, screenwriter Louise Lewis, actress Philip Loeb, actor Ben Maddow, screenwriter (Buhle and Wagner 2003: 44) Arnold Manoff, screenwriter (Buhle and Wagner 2003: 44) Robert A. McGowan, screenwriter and director Karen Morley, actress Clifford Odets, writer Larry Parks, actor Leo Penn, actor Abraham Polonsky, screenwriter and director John Randolph, actor Maurice Rapf, screenwriter Rosaura Revueltas, actress Frederic I. Rinaldo, screenwriter Martin Ritt, actor and director Paul Robeson, actor and singer Edwin Rolfe, poet Robert Rossen, screenwriter Jean Rouverol, actress and writer Arthur Strawn, screenwriter (Buhle and Wagner 2003: 91) Joshua Shelley, actor Frank Tarloff, screenwriter Dorothy Tree, actress Richard N. Wright, writer Nedrick Young, actor and screenwriter

[edit] Notes ^ Johnpoll (1994), p. xv. ^ Schwartz (1999). ^ Dick (1989), p. 7; Bertolt Brecht’s Appearance. ^ The following transcript of an excerpt from the interrogation of screenwriter John Howard Lawson gives an example of how the question was worded in actual practice and a sense of the tenor of some of the exchanges: Interrogator: Are you a member of the Communist Party or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party? Lawson: It’s unfortunate and tragic that I have to teach this committee the basic principles of Americanism. Interrogator: That’s not the question. That’s not the question. The question is—have you ever been a member of the Communist Party? Lawson: I am framing my answer in the only way in which any American citizen can frame…absolutely invades his privacy… Interrogator: Then you deny it? You refuse to answer that question, is that correct? Lawson: I have told you that I will offer my beliefs, my affiliations and everything else to the American public and they will know where I stand as they do from what I have written. Interrogator: Stand away from the stand. Stand away from the stand. Officer, take this man away from the stand.

See John Howard Lawson. ^ Dick (1989), p. 7. ^ At least a couple of important recent histories incorrectly give December 3 as the date of the Waldorf Statement: Ross (2002), p. 217; Stone (2004), p. 365. Among the many 1947 sources that make unquestionable the error, there is, for example, the New York Times article “Movies to Oust Ten Cited For Contempt of Congress; Major Companies Also Vote to Refuse Jobs to Communists—’Hysteria, Surrender of Freedom’ Charged by Defense Counsel; Movies Will Oust Ten Men Cited for Contempt of Congress After Voting to Refuse Employment to Communists,” which appeared on the front page of the newspaper November 26. ^ Lasky (1989), p. 204. ^ Gevinson (1997), p. 234. ^ Stone (2004), p. 365. ^ Newman (1989), 140. ^ Red Channels (1950), pp. 6, 214; Guide to the American Business Consultants. ^ Doherty (2003), p. 31. ^ Dick (1989), p. 94. ^ O’Neill (1990), p. 239. ^ Cohen (2004), p. 176. ^ Bosworth (1997), passim. ^ Faulk (1963). ^ Buhle and Wagner (2003), p. 30. ^ Smith (1999), p. 206. ^ Fried (1997), p. 197. ^ Weinraub (2000).

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Bertolt Brecht’s Appearance Before the HUAC brief essay, including link to contemporary newspaper clipping; part of the USC–Feuchtwanger Memorial Library website Guide to the American Business Consultants, Inc. Counterattack: Research Files 1930–1968 narrative summary and inventory of document holdings in the Tamiment Library/Robert F. Wagner Labor Archives; part of the NYU–Elmer Holmes Bobst Library website John Howard Lawson, Screenwriter, Testifies Before HUAC, October 29, 1947 film clip, transcript, and background essay; part of the Authentic History Center website

[edit] Additional links “The Committee of Five: A Contemporary Account of the HUAC in Hollywood” excerpt from Hollywood on Trial (1948), by Gordon Kahn “Congressional Committees and Unfriendly Witnesses” detailed examination of legal issues involved in HUAC proceedings by historian Ellen Schrecker “Seeing Red” transcript of excerpts from PBS documentary The Legacy of the Hollywood Blacklist and interview by NewsHour correspondent Elizabeth Farnsworth with two blacklisted artists, writer/producer Paul Jarrico and actress Marsha Hunt Retrieved from “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_blacklist” Categories: Articles to be expanded since January 2007 | All articles to be expanded | Hollywood blacklist | Film | History of film ViewsArticle Discussion Edit this page History Personal toolsSign in / create account Navigation Main page Community portal Featured content Current events Recent changes Random article About Wikipedia Contact us Make a donation Help Search Toolbox What links here Related changes Upload file Special pages Printable version Permanent link Cite this article In other languages 中文

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By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 02:35 PM | Link to this

Huge Punk,

After you’ve repudiated the filthy Jew hater here^^^^^^Please feel free to use Google to substantiate any and all claims you filed against my character today.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 02:39 PM | Link to this

Amoung the scientist hurt by Mccarthyism is Albert Einstein:

Einstein the Radical

Einstein in 1952 Einstein supported a number of political causes that branded him a radical in the eyes of many in the U.S. government. He wrote of his support for socialism , for example, and described capitalism as “economic anarchy.” Such statements, combined with his advocacy of nuclear disarmament and civil rights, made Einstein a highly controversial figure in the 1950s, when the House Committee on Un-American Activities and Senator Joseph McCarthy were accusing many of being Communists. Indeed, the Federal Bureau of Investigation amassed a file with almost 1,500 pages of information on Einstein’s allegedly subversive political activities.

Einstein never backed down from his beliefs, however—and always emphasized the importance of intellectual freedom. “I have never been a Communist,” he said. “But if I were, I would not be ashamed of it.” Einstein despaired over the effects of McCarthyism : “The current investigations are an incomparably greater danger to our society than those few Communists in our country ever could be. These investigations have already undermined to a considerable extent the democratic character of our society.”

October 25, 1945 U.S. Congressman John Rankin criticizes Einstein for his allegedly subversive political beliefs.

It’s about time the American people got wise to Einstein….He ought to be prosecuted. —Representative John Rankin, member of the House Un-American Activities Committee

Einstein was never charged and never appeared before the House Un-American Activities Committee.

Communist Witch-Hunts Although the United States and the Soviet Union were WWII allies against the Nazis, many in America were deeply suspicious of the Communist country. As the tensions of the Cold War deepened, fear of Communism reached its peak in the early 1950s. The U.S. Congress, led by Senator Joseph McCarthy and the House Committee on Un-American Activities, conducted witch-hunts in search of Communist sympathizers. The accused had two options. They could refuse to testify —and risk losing their jobs and friends. Or they could cooperate and accuse friends and colleagues of being Communists. At the same time, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, led by J. Edgar Hoover, monitored citizens’ activities, searching for “subversive” behavior.

Einstein and his leftist political convictions attracted the attention of the U.S. government as early as the 1930s. Denounced as a Communist spy and watched by the FBI, Einstein persisted in publicly criticizing McCarthyism as a dangerous threat to democracy and freedom of expression.

Defending Oppenheimer

Einstein and Oppenheimer Photo: courtesy AIP, Emilio Segrč Archives

J. Robert Oppenheimer (right), known as the “father of the atomic bomb,” served as director of the Los Alamos laboratory of the Manhattan Project in the 1940s. In 1954, he was accused of having associated with Communists. He then lost his security clearance and had to resign from the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission.

The case shocked the scientific community: Oppenheimer was the most prominent scientist to become a victim of McCarthyism. Einstein, a vocal critic of McCarthyism, joined 25 other scientists in defending Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer’s security clearance was never reinstated.

By Dusty

February 11, 2007 02:40 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish @ 10:50,

Did you see anything at all in the AJC about the false reporting by the Washington Post on the FBI-CIA disagreement on pre-war information? The Washington Post made a correction saying it was a quote from Levin’s Report and not the actual government report.

I couldn’t find anything in AJC.com. Some bloggers here seemed a bit confused such as L & F at 10:26. The bitter accusations made after that erroneous WaPo report were horrific. I saw on TV one government official being questioned by Levin like the official was a criminal.

If the news media wants to look ethical they should be correcting these mistakes everywhere they were published and beyond.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 02:41 PM | Link to this

A link would have been sufficient dumbass. Not one of those people appeared before Joesph McCarthy. DO you know the difference between the House and the Senate?

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 02:49 PM | Link to this

RW - You asked, I was just trying to be helpful, I know how busy your are trying to write your life story (the orpahage, reform school, prison, right wing nut whaco).

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 02:49 PM | Link to this

IDIOT SPAMMER

I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that you are “Thomas” AKA “PNAC” and G-d knows who else.

I could be wrong, but one thing is for certain - you are a juvenile jackass. This place is for adults and you clearly do not qualify.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 02:51 PM | Link to this

A little humor:

A couple made a deal that whoever died first would come back and inform the other of the after life. The woman’s biggest fear was that there was no heaven. After a long life, the husband was the first to go, and true to his word, he made contact. “Mary… Mary…” Awestruck, Mary responds, “Is that you Fred?” “Yes, I have come back like we agreed.” “Well, what is it like?” Fred excitedly tells his tale, “Well, when I get up in the morning I have sex, then I have breakfast, then I have sex again, then I bathe in the sun, then I have sex twice more, then I have lunch, then I have sex all afternoon and into the early evening, until bedtime. And, then, I start all over again the next day.” So happy Mary says, “Oh Fred, you surely must be in heaven.” Fred replies, “Hell no, Mary, I’m a rabbit in Kansas.”

By Huge

February 11, 2007 02:56 PM | Link to this

RW, sure isn’t afraid to prove himself a fool on public forums. I’ll give him that. But it’s his pride in being such a hateful and mean-spirited little pr!ck and the lover of those like him and a supporter of those in power like that, that is most illustrative.

And I know I waste much too much time trying to help him learn things when his head is so far up his a$$ and he doesn’t give a tinker’s damn about learning anything new (He apparently already knows everything). But let’s one more time take it from the top, for our rocket scientist ricky.

I said. “So he’s gone down in history as a arrogant twerp that lived for and loved trying to ruin the lives of innocent people.

Stupid said, “You can’t name one innocent person McCarthy ever destroyed.” (really, how nauseating is this question anyway?!)

I said, “Your disgusting hero TRIED to destroy innocent American lives by the dozens, you moron.”

Stupid said, “The fact remains that you can’t name a single innocent person he destroyed…”

Then dorkboy charges me with changing the parameters of the discussion! Has he considered a career in linguistics?

The idiot knows I could list MANY innocent names that his repugnant hero tried to screw. Is he really so shallow and stupid he thinks I can’t list actors, authors, professors, lawyers, members of the Armed Services (that’s the army, navy etc, ricky) and other elected leaders? I just love watching this puke say the demented things he says when I make him squirm like this for the info. It is just too laughable…

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 02:57 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Of course not.

You’ll note that although WaPo made a correction, they still have the original story on their website with the original headline. Scroll Down.

Even Fox ran with this huge Lie, with Shep Smith predictably “outraged”.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 03:00 PM | Link to this

So ricky pretend to think that unless they actually appeared before him, McCarthy didn’t try to fvck all of those people listed. What a child…

I’m still waiting for evidence from the two cretins about their claim of “jew bashing”.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 03:03 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

Name one then.

By The Real Deal

February 11, 2007 03:04 PM | Link to this

A big dose of reality for the Bush-kissers — that delusional 23% of Americans still clinging to their dictator:

The new National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq starkly delineates the gulf that separates President Bush’s illusions from the realities of the war. Victory, as the president sees it, requires a stable liberal democracy in Iraq that is pro-American. The NIE describes a war that has no chance of producing that result. In this critical respect, the NIE, the consensus judgment of all the U.S. intelligence agencies, is a declaration of defeat.

Let the trials in the Hague begin.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 03:04 PM | Link to this

So ricky pretends to think that unless they actually appeared before him, McCarthy didn’t try to fvck all of those people listed. What a child…

And I’m still waiting for evidence from the two cretins about their claim of “jew bashing”.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 03:08 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

So now your evidence is that you say so. Sorry moron, save that for your moonbat buddies.

By WootenDull

February 11, 2007 03:11 PM | Link to this

Polly: Do you urinate, defecate and vomit in every public place that you visit, like you do here?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 03:23 PM | Link to this

ATTENTION BLOWHARD!!!!

Name ONE or STFU.

Now, here’s how to find the Jew bashing. Do a page search. Type in MarkAss. Read his numerous moonbat posts.

You could also read the commments at the WaPo page on the Feith story. “Feith is a dirty Jew” is the predominant theme, and the comments are all from liberals like you.

Finally, hang out with some State Department employees and other “elites”. It won’t take 5 minutes before they go into a “Jews control the U.S. government” rant.

By The Real Deal

February 11, 2007 03:24 PM | Link to this

“The next few years could be among the most innovative and important in decades.”

Oh, Wooten— you are quite a comedian, huh? So far in the GA legislative session, we have: a bill to allow govt. workers to express “Merry Christmas” to one another, a bill to reduce the school year in GA, a bill to install a statue of Zell Miller at the Capitol, and a bill to get rid of traffic-light cameras… you Republicans are real good at picking and spending time on those issues so critical to most citizens, aren’t you? You’re absolutely CLUELESS is what you are!

By Huge

February 11, 2007 03:37 PM | Link to this

Want some more names, ricky? Or should I just repost those already listed above for you? You know the ones you had hoped weren’t posted? The ones you hoped were available only via a link? The ones you don’t want to know about? The ones you don’t want anyone to know about?

McCarthy used the the Tydings Committee hearings to make charges against ten others for whom he had names: Dorothy Kenyon, Esther and Stephen Brunauer, Haldore Hanson, Gustavo Duran, Owen Lattimore, Harlow Shapley, Frederick Schuman, John S. Service and Philip Jessup. Some of these no longer, or never had, worked for the State Department, and all had previously been the subject of various charges of varying worth and validity. Owen Lattimore became a particular focus of McCarthy’s, who at one point described him as a “top Russian spy.” Throughout the hearings, McCarthy had colorful rhetoric, but no substantial evidence, to support his accusations.

Just like his disgusting political spawn, the neo-con, 57 years later!

bigoted simpleton, you filthy animal, where is the EVIDENCE of this “jew bashing”? (I can’t assume you know the meaning of that word so here it is: to make evident or clear; show clearly; manifest) Either post the relevant words and prove your stupid claim or just GFY…

By Gypsy

February 11, 2007 03:45 PM | Link to this

don’t we all wish that filty loudmouthed shrew Buy Danish would STFU?

whoever said that Buy Danish and RW and Dusty are all the same people are really onto something.

why else would Buy Danish keep answering questions posed to other people?

you’ve been busted, Filthy Shrew.

get back into your cage.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 03:46 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

That Wiki link from the HOUSE committee is what you moonbats post every time. Here’s a hint for you, when it says McCarthyism they are trying to obfuscate the issue just like you are doing now.

The reason they do it is they know how unbelievably stupid and gullible you are.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 03:56 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish said “Finally, hang out with some State Department employees and other “elites”. It won’t take 5 minutes before they go into a “Jews control the U.S. government” rant.” If many people in the State Department (a very conservative and polite group) believes the us gov is control by jews loyal to a foreign power, Israel, then perhaps the FBI should investigate, because it may very well be true. Just because jews were once persecuted does not immunize them against treason. Not all jews are traitors, just the ones who work for the U.S. Government and put their loyalty to Israel over their loyalty to America in their official acts.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 03:59 PM | Link to this

Ricky, how can you post so many pieces of moronic sh!t in one single solitary day?!!

The Tydings Committee was a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that was set up in February 1950 to conduct “a full and complete study and investigation as to whether persons who are disloyal to the United States are, or have been, employed by the Department of State.” The chairman of the subcommittee, Senator Millard Tydings, a Democrat, told McCarthy at the opening of the hearings: “You are in the position of being the man who occasioned this hearing, and so far as I am concerned in this committee you are going to get one of the most complete investigations ever given in the history of this Republic, so far as my abilities will permit.”

Still waiting for your EVIDENCE that Markass is a jew basher…

You and that repulsive bigot need to put down the Pabst Blue Ribbons and admit defeat. Quit ignoring your children and families and shut down your $200 computers.

On second thought, they’re probably praying you never stop your 24/7 on-line idiocy…

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 04:06 PM | Link to this

Many members of my family are jewish, and they are fiercly loyal to israel, which is OK, because they do not work for the US Government. Even if they did work for the us gov, as long as they did not put israel first in their official acts, they would still be ok. It is only treason when a person (jew or none jew) puts loyalty to a foreign power before loyalty to America in their OFFICIAL ACTS that it crosses the line and becomes treason. IMHO, Wolfie, Libbie, Pearlie, and Feithie have all crossed that line as well as several members of congress.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 04:12 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

You’re the dumbass that referenced the names “posted above” as the poor little innocent lambs that McCarthy TRIED to slaughter. Those would be the ones Beavis posted from WIKI.

Why don’t you just admit you’re an incurious fool that laps up any liberal pap that gets placed in front of you?

By AstroPain

February 11, 2007 04:20 PM | Link to this

If the diaper dont fit, you must acquit.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 04:21 PM | Link to this

MarkAss,

Let’s cut to the chase here.

You have no problem denying the fact that there were Communists in and out of the U.S. Government whose loyalty was to the Soviet Union and not to the United States. Yet you claim that I and others deny your reality that there’s a Big Jewish Conspiracy.

One: Please name the Jews who “put their loyalty to Israel over their loyalty to America in their official acts.”

Two: Provide evidence of their “treason”.

By WootenDull

February 11, 2007 04:22 PM | Link to this

This is what a pinko considers helping you:

New wage boost puts squeeze on teenage workers across Arizona Employers are cutting back hours, laying off young staffers. But he plans to lay off three teenage workers and decrease hours worked by others.

With “friends” like that who needs enemies?

Socialist feel good policy at it’s finest.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 04:26 PM | Link to this

Well well well, I knew it wouldn’t take long for MarkAss the stinky poopy monster to name Feith and other “neo-cons” as traitors.

The irony that “liberals” like him rail against McCarthyism is just too rich.

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 04:34 PM | Link to this

Markass,

Time for a little Freudian analysis, filthy boy. What’s the source of your obsessive-compulsive potty talk?

Was your mommy fat and stinky? Is this the source of the myriad psychological problems which you are projecting on to the rest of us, right out of a Psych 101 textbook?

By Huge

February 11, 2007 04:35 PM | Link to this

One: Please show exactly where Markass bashed Jews.”

Two: Provide evidence that you are not completely irrational.

The non-irony that neo-con scum like bigot, curly-ricky and marky mark love McCarthyism and desperately want it’s return is just too predictable.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 04:39 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

So I take it you gave up on the search for even one name of an innocent that McCarthy TRIED to destroy. Typical.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 04:45 PM | Link to this

No bi danish, maw had nothing to do with my observations about you, they came from the heart (unfortunately via the nose).

By @@

February 11, 2007 04:46 PM | Link to this

Jim:

I have a great appreciation for “think tanks” especially when the participants are diverse in their views. Achieving the objective should, afterall, be the goal.

Too many politicians in the past have chosen “to sleep perchance to dream”. And I have to wonder…are they contemplating mass suicide for us?

I want my politicians wide awake, soliciting new ideas, and thinking outside “the box” of what government alone can accomplish.

That’s one of the reasons I voted for George Bush. He wasn’t the same old same old that everyone had grown accustomed to.

But then you can see how the leftists react to change.

By MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person

February 11, 2007 04:52 PM | Link to this

@@, I also voted for George Bush the first time around, but I wised up before the second election. The Germans in the 1930’s also wanted change, so they voted for Alolf Hitler, a man very much like GWB, imho.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 05:01 PM | Link to this

In a two-hour speech to about 10,000 supporters north of Paris, she pledged to raise pensions, increase the minimum wage to €1,500, or about $2,000, a month and guaranteed a job or further training to every youth within six months of graduating. She also said randomly selected citizens’ juries would watch over government policy and that juvenile delinquents could be placed in educational camps run by the military.

As if to preempt her opponents on the right, she stressed throughout her speech that her ideas had been nourished in 6,000 debates with citizens throughout France, a method she has called “participative democracy.”

Sounds a lot like Hillary.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 05:08 PM | Link to this

Dorothy Kenyon, Esther and Stephen Brunauer, Haldore Hanson, Gustavo Duran, Owen Lattimore, Harlow Shapley, Frederick Schuman, John S. Service and Philip Jessup.

I have to admit, ricky. Sometimes you are so shockingly dull and unobservant that I just have to laugh.

Knowing that your disgusting “philosophies” of neo-conism are being repudiated by more and more rational, moral Americans every week and that it’s diseased, filthy adherents are singing it’s swan song makes it all tolerable though!

By @@

February 11, 2007 05:10 PM | Link to this

Well now that Paraguay comment is just silly MarkAss aka PoliFore. Why would Bush locate his family right in the middle of Dictator Chavez country.

I know, I know…they both share the same dreams right?

I’m gone to dinner.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 05:16 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

Let’s take the most recognizable name on your list and please tell me about Owen Lattimore being destroyed errr…almost destroyed by Joe McCarthy.

I’d be willing to bet the other “innocent” names are just as phony as that one.

By WootenDull

February 11, 2007 05:18 PM | Link to this

He saw from compilations of weather satellite data that cloudiness varies according to how many atomic particles are coming in from exploded stars. More cosmic rays, more clouds. The sun’s magnetic field bats away many of the cosmic rays, and its intensification during the 20th century meant fewer cosmic rays, fewer clouds, and a warmer world. On the other hand the Little Ice Age was chilly because the lazy sun let in more cosmic rays, leaving the world cloudier and gloomier.

I didn’t know that man was causing stars not to explode.

Why, we need to raise taxes and make this stop.

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By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 05:22 PM | Link to this

Cross Dorothy Kenyon off the list, McCarthy mentioned her and gave her more status than ever.

Blowhard,

Have you ever been honest in your life? What’s your definition of “tried to destroy?”

Did Kennedy and Durbin try to destroy Sam Alito?

By Huge

February 11, 2007 05:28 PM | Link to this

Ricky, you ignorant slut.

What in the name of Ronnie Raygun is so hard about this for your tiny brain to understand.

Your sleezebag hero TRIED to destroy and otherwise screw these people. You are obsessed on whether he succeeded or not only because you so very much wanted him to. And you’d just love it if you could help bring that disease back, wouldn’t you?

By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 05:32 PM | Link to this

Tin Foil Hat MarkAss.

Are you talking about this?

Look out! Black helicopter piloted by Neo-Con approaching fast!

By Poofs Love McCarthy

February 11, 2007 05:33 PM | Link to this

Roy Cohn died of AIDS, like most of the Lickodulls will…

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By Buy Danish

February 11, 2007 05:42 PM | Link to this

Meet Owen Lattimore.

To explain his view that U.S.-Soviet collaboration in Asia after 1945 was a fine idea, he cites, among other utter drivel, a 1943 New York Times editorial with the happy if idiotic message, “We can do business with Stalin!” To support his benign view of Chinese Communists, soldiers of Mao and killers of dissident leftists, he quotes General Patrick J. Hurley’s 1945 howler, “The Communists are not in fact Communists, they are striving for democratic principles.”

AND

Even setting aside all questions of spying, Lattimore had a quite public paper trail as a defender of the Stalin purge trials. In an infamous statement made in 1938, the expert on China, Mongolia, and Turkestan declared that the judicial massacres in Moscow “sound like democracy to me” Thus, it appeared to Lattimore that the arrest, beating, drugging, forced confessions, and summary executions of thousands of Soviet political and military leaders demonstrated that the political elite could be held accountable by their subjects.

Real nice guy this Lattimore fellow. How interesting that Blowhard hates Ronald Reagan but is beside himself because Owen Lattimore was exposed as a Stalinist “stooge” (to use one of the Left’s favorite words).

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 05:44 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

You brain dead waste of oxygen, to use terms that qualify as reasoned discourse in your feeble mind.

You mentioned that these people were supposed to be innocent, which they certainly don’t appear to be. And you said “tried to destroy” which seems like you would have to do more than question their involvement with various organizations to do. Tell me what was done to any of those “innocents” you’ve mentioned.

So, waste, what was going on when Sam Alito was being grilled by your beloved blowhards in the Senate. By the way, is that why you call yourself Blowhard?

As dumb as you are I’m surprised you didn’t bring up Aimee Lee Moss. She was another guilty party that Edward R Murrow tried to cover for.

Why is it you libs can’t tell the difference between a lib and a communist? Never mind that one, you answer that every time you whine about Reagan.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 05:44 PM | Link to this

Throughout the early 1950s, McCarthy continued to make accusations of communist infiltration of the U. S. government, though he failed to provide evidence. (No wonder ricky loves this guy so!) McCarthy himself was investigated by a Senate panel in 1952. That committee issued the “Hennings Report,” which uncovered unethical behavior in McCarthy’s campaigns and tax returns.

In the fall of 1953, McCarthy investigated the Army Signal Corps, but failed to uncover an alleged espionage ring. McCarthy’s treatment of General Ralph W. Zwicker during that investigation caused many supporters to turn against McCarthy. That opposition grew with the CBS broadcast of Edward R. Murrow’s “See It Now,” which was an attack on McCarthy and his methods.

Both sides of this dispute were aired over national television between April 22 and June 17, 1954, during what became known as the Army-McCarthy Hearings. McCarthy’s frequent interruptions of the proceedings and his calls of “point of order” made him the object of ridicule, (again see comment about ricky above!) and his approval ratings in public opinion polls continued a sharp decline. On June 9, the hearings climaxed when McCarthy attacked a young lawyer who worked for the law firm of Joseph Nye Welch, the Army’s chief counsel.

Welch’s reply to McCarthy became famous: “Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you no sense of decency?” After that, the hearings petered out to an inconclusive end, but McCarthy’s reputation never recovered.

Have you no sense of decency, ricky?

By Habitat for Humanity

February 11, 2007 05:46 PM | Link to this

Leaves Andi/e, Bi Danish, RW, and Markanus out in the hogsty.

Filthy cowardly pigs.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 05:50 PM | Link to this

Hate Reagan, bigot. Whine about Reagan, ricky.

I told you mental midgets I just love seeing you idiotic neo-cons soil yourselves whenever I mention his name!

I say Ronnie, you take a dump! I say Raygun, you soil another pair!

It is to laugh!

By Markus

February 11, 2007 05:53 PM | Link to this

Huge, et. al. liboRAT ID @2:56 shows another example of a sickness of the disease of liberalism.

“But it’s his (RW) pride in being such a hateful and mean-spirited little pr!ck.”

Here the multiple ID neoStalinist little liberal sewer RAT says that anyone who says something that this neofascist doesn’t agree with is full of “hate” and “mean-spirited.” That’s oh-so-typical of the disgusting hypocritical liberals. Anything that you say that chaps their sorryasses, you are just full of hate. These assplugs on the left can dish it out, yet they squeal like stuck pigs when it’s dished back. And these spineless jackasses think they can run a nation? Pathetic.

“And I know I waste much too much time trying to help him learn things when his head is so far up his a$$ and he doesn’t give a tinker’s damn about learning anything new..”

Yeah, that’s another exhibit of sick liberals. Learn like us, or we will attempt to destroy you blogwise and/or eradicate you. Think like us in the guise of “learning something new” or we will do everything within our power to ensure your voice is quelled for good. Effin’ neoStalinist demoncat liberal sewer RATs.

By Dusty

February 11, 2007 05:55 PM | Link to this

Well,

We’ve had the jokesters, the nickjackers, the bloated braggers and now we have the psychopath.

Anyone with that putrid vocabulary, underbed babble, hate for Jews, Hitler references to Bush,and treason acclaim is over the top. But to think that Bush has a huge estate in Paraguay to escape nuclear attacks is just far gone. What next? Space aliens in Nevada preparing to take over the world?

I hope Jim Wooten reads this blog. I know he has to take a day off but some of this stuff is truly poisonous. Someone is really sick.

By Gypsy

February 11, 2007 05:55 PM | Link to this

By BD’s Neglected family

February 10, 2007 05:31 PM | Link to this

Just so you know, Buy Danish comes from a family of very successful people. In fact her father went to Harvard. This makes her feel very inadequate, so she tries to fill the void here. In the mean time her family suffers through her addiction. BD, your family wants you to get some help. Please, go into treatment.

the poor, poor man.

having to go through life knowing that he spawned a hateful, disgusted retard.

By RW-(the original)

February 11, 2007 05:57 PM | Link to this

I guess Blowhard left off the last paragraph because he wants you to believe that McCarthy really hectored those people throughout the 50’s.

In August, 1954, a Senate committee was formed to investigate censuring McCarthy. On September27, the committee released a unanimous report calling McCarthy’s behavior as a committee chairman “inexcusable,” “reprehensible,” “vulgar and insulting.” On December 2, 1954, the full Senate, by a vote of 67-22, passed a resolution condemning McCarthy for abusing his power as a senator. Though he remained in the Senate, McCarthy now had little power and was ignored by the Congress, the White House, and most of the media.

So nobody listened to him after 1954 and when you couple that with his death in May of 1957 it makes it a little tough to believe that he was bothering Blowhard’s precious little communists very much.

By AstroPain

February 11, 2007 05:58 PM | Link to this

The astronaut’s diaper just sold on Ebay for $46K.

By Huge

February 11, 2007 06:02 PM | Link to this

Oh goody! Marky Mark of the Butth0le Bunch has returned!

I was hoping that the dumbest, vilest and most useless of the neo-cons dirtbags would return for more fun!

How long did you have to exercise that diseased brain of yours to supplant curly luckodull, aka suck, as the most repulsive of the neo-con losers?

Hey Markie, do something useful and tell ricky that ronnie raygun was a dictator loving idiot for me!

By WootenDull

February 11, 2007 06:03 PM | Link to this

“America’s mayor” favors defining marriage as between a man and a woman. Thus, he does not favor gay marriages. But he does not oppose civil unions. Giuliani hates abortion but ultimately believes in the right to choose, favors parental notification with a so-called judicial bypass and supports a ban on partial-birth abortions with provisions to protect a mother’s life.

Plus, he’ll kick Hillary’s a-ss.

Which is all that really matters.

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By Markus

February 11, 2007 06:10 PM | Link to this

Don’t kid yourself Small, et. al. IDs. You aren’t worthy of the time I spend on the toilet flushing thoughts of liberalism right down the sewer where that filthy anti-success ideology belongs. You are all equally worthless to my time. Sewer liberal demonRATs.

By Aunt Bea

February 11, 2007 06:20 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten, my youngest grandson stayed the weekend with me and his grandpa, and as all younguns do, little Clem asked us a might few questions.

One of them was if all journalists were like the filthy rent pinkos of the New York Times, and I said Lordy no, let’s go on your computer and I’ll show you how normal people write.

So we went to the Urinal home page, into the “opinion” section, and accidentally clicked on Cynthia Tucker’s page, oh my, what a hysterical little socialist she is. It’s almost like she’s the Queen of the Pinkos.

But anyway we got to your page, I was planning on showing little Clem how normal well adjusted men conduct themselves but there was all kinds of filth written on your blog, I just had to cover Clem’s eyes. Some of the most awful, horrible disgusting things, why would you allow such trash to infest and disease your good name?

And what of this waste of humanity “MarkAss and RW, BiDanish, and Dusty are the same person?” Pa was talking that if someone acted up like that in public, it would be weeks before they found all of his body parts. Pa said it takes a true coward to attack other people like that where they couldn’t wring his scrawny little neck over it.

But the thing I’m most disappointed in, Mr. Wooten, is you not thinking of the children like my little Clem coming to your blog and being exposed to this disgusting nastiness.

Shame on you!

By KZ-Guy

February 12, 2007 08:50 AM | Link to this

Libby gets convicted. Gets 10 years. Cheney convinces Dumbya to pardon Libby. Then the rest of the free thinking country will finally see that the cover up for the entire war has come full circle. Dumbya’s place in history is jeopardized only by Richard Nixon.