Thinking Right

By jbmlaw

February 9, 2007 08:04 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I think nobody has any illusions about the leftists reining in non-defense spending, nor about their tax intentions; still we should not anticipate that any other leftist will match Sen. Edward’s candor. Stealth – standing for nothing - is the only way they can get elected, and they know it. That’s why we get only “nonbinding” resolutions from that crowd. And no spending “slashes.”

I don’t have an objection – or even a strong opinion - about electing school boards, so long as the administrators lack capacity to tax. Taxes and fees should be imposed only by elected representatives.

As to Capitol portraits and statutes, I would bestow that honor only on those who are awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the Legion of Merit, the Distinguished Service Cross, the Navy Cross, etc. What have politicians ever contributed that compares?

I’ll add a Democrat to your list – Phil Bredesen of Tennessee. He’s not so bad, and another Tennessean, Harold Ford of Memphis, is not far behind him. No, they’re not as perfect as Republicans, but if they ran as Republicans we would vote for them.

Staff, you are catching on: there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between NAACP, AARP, and ACLU. They hide their leftism – if they hide at all - behind the acronyms. Limbaugh mocks them as the NAALCP – the extra letter for “leftist.”

I spent my first 44 years in the Nashville area. It’s the rest of you who talk funny.

Agree with your criticism of Gov. Perdue on the traffic stuff. Speed does not meaningfully correlate to traffic injuries – too many speeders are never injured - but does correlate highly to traffic congestion. The primary purpose of the legislation is to impoverish the “undeserving,” mostly young drivers who still have all of their skills. I’d prefer to see aggressive enforcement against six+ wheel vehicles in the left and HOV lanes.

Now I understand why nobody in the world wants to go to Greek institutions of higher learning – there aren’t any. That happens with government in charge.

Obviously we need more competition among school superintendents. Are those pantywaists elected or appointed?

I’ll resist the setup for “bed-wetting leftist” jokes. My friend TFTT will handle that one better anyway. Busy again today, have fun all.

By TW

February 9, 2007 08:10 AM | Link to this

Following a week in which Americans continued to give their lives for us, you open up by taking a shot at a man who proposes increasing taxes. Bravo. Enjoy the security of your castle this weekend, Mr. Wooten – you’ve worked ‘very hard’ this week.

By Mid-South Philosopher

February 9, 2007 08:12 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

A few comments to selected items on Thinking Right Friday:

With regard to Honest John Edwards’ proposed tax increase. Mondale admitted that he would raise taxes, then, he told us that Reagan would raise taxes but not tell us. Mondale didn’t lie!

Politicians, by their very nature, are 10% substance and 90% guano. School superintendents have enough guano on their plates with the No Child Left Behind Act. They don’t have time to create their own in order to run for political office. Leave it as it is.

Portraits at the Capitol?…come on, Jim, don’t you think they ought to hang our portraits on the wall…at least in the basement.

Rebuild the Democratic Party?…I will attend the planning meeting.

NAACP and No Knock Warrants?….how about a good geography and map reading lesson for all involved.

President Bush’s plan to slash?…You are right…some of these folks should have had Miss Flossie Flossbottom’s General Math class.

Sure cure for FEMA’s woes…apply the No Child Left Behind philosophy to the agency…No Complaints…No Excuses!.

The Barrow County Mom and the Alpharetta Dad…should be introduced to the “Texas Chainsaw Massacre”.

Sorry to end the day with a bang, Jim, but, like a lot of Americans, I am livid.

It is time that the Crawford, Texas “wonder”…that pitiable excuse for a President that I voted for, “twice,” under the mistaken impression that he was a “conservative”…did something “honorable” and “worthwhile” by issuing a full and complete pardon for Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, the two boarder patrol agents found guilty of shooting a “illegal” drug dealer. What happened to these two border agents is a national disgrace. If “Georgie” fails to do this and if, as it now appears, the Justice Department was involved in providing misleading or false evidence that led to the conviction of these men, consideration of impeachment proceedings should be made by the appropriate authorities. At least we know what Dick Cheney is.

By Dan

February 9, 2007 08:22 AM | Link to this

Hard to believe people still decry the tax cuts that have proven time and again, (including when JFK did it) to boost the economy and actually increase the flow of money to the government cofers. The irony is dems rely entirely on the ignorance of those they purport to help.

By Brian Curtis

February 9, 2007 08:32 AM | Link to this

Wooten is entirely correct about raising taxes. It’s clearly a far better plan to do what the Republicans have done… jack up spending and run up an enormous deficit so that future generations will have to pay for it.

Because paying for it now, through increased taxes—well, that would just be silly. And political suicide.

By Brian Curtis

February 9, 2007 08:35 AM | Link to this

As for your ideal Republican party: Thanks, Wooten, for demonstrating exactly why real Democrats should keep Joe at arm’s length. He’s the neocon’s favorite type of Democrat: a Republican one.

Other than that, today is your usual collection of superficial cheap shots that show no real reflection or insight… just like you phone in every Friday.

By Jim Wooten

February 9, 2007 08:35 AM | Link to this

Morning all. Philosopher, if they included our portraits, they’d probably have to bump the two-headed calf or snake. The childen wouldn’t like that.

By CJ

February 9, 2007 08:46 AM | Link to this

Another trip down memory lane – like now, we went into the 1988 elections with a federal debt that dwarfed federal revenues (our current national debt is approximately $8.7 trillion and our 2006-07 revenues are estimated to be approximately $2.4 trillion – that’s like having credit card debt amounting to over three-and-a-half times your annual salary). ’88 Democratic presidential candidate Bruce Babbitt stood up during the primary debates to make the point that he is the only candidate who will stand up to tell the truth – “I will raise taxes”. Republican candidate George Bush said “read my lips…” Babbitt was the first candidate from either party to drop out of the race, and Bush became president. What was the difference between the two men? One told the truth, and the other lied.

We need to stop voting people who tell us what we want to hear, and start voting for people who will tell us the truth. The next president, Republican or Democrat, will raise taxes — just as Reagan did after beating Mondale. The current President Bush has left him (or her) with no choice.

By Van

February 9, 2007 09:16 AM | Link to this

Mid-South Philosopher,

I must second you on you take of the treatment of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean. A full pardon and their jobs back would only be the start. Between the withheld evidence and DHS Inspector General Richard Skinner testified under oath his deputies had lied to Congress about non-existent reports that were supposed to have established Ramos and Compean as rogue cops who wanted to “shoot some Mexicans.”

Imagine being fired and jailed for doing your job.

By JP

February 9, 2007 09:22 AM | Link to this

Funny, Wooten - the Democratic Party that I see being rebuilt is forming around the likes of Jim Webb. You and the right wing can HAVE Lieberman.

• President Bush’s plan to “slash” spending for Medicare and Medicaid? Never heard of that. Only in America is a budget increase of 5.6 percent a year considered a “slash.” Get used to the word, though. You will see and hear it often.

That’s the same twisted logic that allows the repeal of a tax cut to be called a “tax increase,” now isn’t it?

By Seriously

February 9, 2007 09:23 AM | Link to this

Please list the issues you agree with Lieberman on.

How about his proposed war tax? “I think we have to start thinking about a war on terrorism tax,”

While you are looking over your shoulder, who is going to rebuild the Republican party?

By JoeD

February 9, 2007 09:27 AM | Link to this

Jim, why would we want a Democratic party that would be to your liking? Then we would have two Republican parties. What in the world does the last paragraph mean??? I know the astronaut story, but what does the analogy to Obama have to do with the price of tea in China? You seem to be losing it, Jimmy. I can never figue out whether the Friday free-for-all is just Wooten going for cheap laughs or if he really means this stuff. Most of it just seems like a weak, sad joke.

By Van

February 9, 2007 09:37 AM | Link to this

JP,

A repeal of a tax cut is an increase in taxes. If I have to pay more in taxes, then it is a tax increase.

And a budget increase of 5.6% is more than the rate of inflation. I wish I had a 5.6% increase in my budget. But, I am sure that the lefties will whine about that increase.

I realize why the lefties do not mind the workers paying more in taxes, they are all on unemployment, have low paying jobs and pay no taxes, still students living with Mommy and Daddy, independently wealthy and feel guilty about it or are drawing welfare and pay no taxes at all.

If Edwards gets elected, every working person will pay more in taxes, will have worse health care while he sits in his Southern White House wondering how the poor in the other America is doing that night.

By getalife

February 9, 2007 09:45 AM | Link to this

“Inspector general confirms Pentagon purposely manipulated Iraq intelligence:

A “very damning” report by the Defense Department’s inspector general depicts a Pentagon that purposely manipulated intelligence in an effort to link Saddam Hussein to al-Qaida in the runup to the U.S. invasion of Iraq, says the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee.”

Thanks to real blogs, the American people are way ahead of Washington propaganda.

Jim posts drivel, a waste of good blog space.

Geez.

By time for the truth

February 9, 2007 09:54 AM | Link to this

Some TRULY glorious news folks.

Apparently the excellent, albeit sadly much too toothless GA bill on the illegal infestation is already having some marvellous effects. I was talking yesterday with a couple of black AfriKan immigrants from Kenya. They tell me in their area of metro Atlanta many Mexican types are already quietly packing up and leaving, or getting ready to do so. In tremulous anticipation of the glorious day in July when the anti-illegal screw in GA tightens. My Kenyan chums say that they have been monitoring yard sales in their area and getting some excellent bargains from illegals eager to p1ss off back home to the anti-American third world or at least leave GA. The Brazilians are currently the favoured source of yard sale goodies, as like most Europeans they buy quality. Not the trashy poorly educated Mexicans who are too cheap to buy anything but beer, beans, chalupas and discounted out of date soap etc.

My Kenyan chums tell me that many illegal Mexican types feel that they have to either leave or ‘go underground’. Either way the pressure is starting to grow, which is marvellous. Whilst thus far this is mostly just anecdotal ‘proof’ of a change for the better, clear thinking Americans will only hope that more and more illegal leeches decided to bugger off out of GA. Liberal cesspits like VT, NY, MA can have them!! My Kenyan chums are both legal citizens, as I am.

By JoeD

February 9, 2007 09:57 AM | Link to this

Yes, Van, you just accurately described all “lefties”. Congratulations, you’ve figured out our secret. Would that all Republicans were as insightful as you. Good detective work.

By Dennis

February 9, 2007 09:58 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten said, “Here, k-12 vouchers frighten the establishment just as much.”

Kind of a weird statement coming from a known member of the establishment.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Redneck Convert

February 9, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Me and the boys was talking in the trailer last nite about Sonny going to Washington to ask for more money for Peachcare. Jim Earl said asking that Pelousy woman for more money was like a husband asking for a loan from a wife he divorced. Joe Bill said “Wasn’t Sonny the one that cut the money for Medicaid and Peachcare last year? Seems to me he should be sellabrating the program running out of money instead of looking for more money from the guvmint.”

Anyway, we told Joe Bill to get out if he can’t make more sense than that. He sounds like a librul and I’m might disapointed in him.

I say starve Those People out. Don’t give them no more money. If you pay for a kids doctor visit, he’ll just get sick again. Besides, he’ll just grow up a librul and cancell your vote. If you let them die out, we can cut our taxes some more. And that goes for the Edwards plan too.

I’m all for the tax cuts. Like I was saying to the boys last nite, if you give a rich guy a 100 buck tax cut, he’ll probly pay 20 of it in taxes. That’s tax money the guvmint wouldn’t get any other way, right? Course, Joe Bill had to chime in and say if the guvmint keeps that 100 bucks in the 1st place, it has 100 bucks instead of 20. We told him to get out again. He just don’t make no sense.

Well, I got a big beer run today. Got to keep the bars stocked up for all the Baptists. Don’t forget to buy your booze before Sunday cause I wouldn’t want you to violate my relegion. I hope that alky Harold don’t start ranting about it again.

By getalife

February 9, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

You should leave too lies.

Back to the England mental facilty bloody wanker.

By Kelly

February 9, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Van wrote “I realize why the lefties do not mind the workers paying more in taxes, they are all on unemployment, have low paying jobs and pay no taxes, still students living with Mommy and Daddy, independently wealthy and feel guilty about it or are drawing welfare and pay no taxes at all.”

This dittohead is totally gone. He’s going to believe everything Limbaugh, Hannity, and Boortz tells him and no amount of facts and reason can change his mind.

By getalife

February 9, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

The cut on Peachcare for the children in Georgia is from the Iraq disaster.

There will be many more American programs cut to pay for Iraqi welfare.

Of course, the wingnuts have no problem with this.

Failed Americans.

By Dennis

February 9, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

A rather interesting statement coming from jbmlaw February 9, 2007 08:04 AM

“Good morning all. I think nobody has any illusions about the leftists…we get only “nonbinding” resolutions from that crowd.”

That’s interesting considering the “democratically elected” Republicans are working so hard to defeat any and all discussion on those resolutions.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to dny it.

By getoveryourself

February 9, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

My black friends told me to beware of the tory windbags invading America. These tories come here to spread lies and false truths as well as to harass anyone outside of their political sphere my black friends told me. To top it off, my * black friends* told me to beware of his little and tired manners of baiting.

My black friends told me me that the only way to deal with demented tories is to laugh it off and pity the little tory with the old charming condescending Southern phrase of “Bless your little heart.” I really like my black friends

Did I forget to mention that I have **black friends??

By jm

February 9, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

what, no comment on PeachCare and all those children of WalMart employees who will now be without healthcare?

By time for the truth

February 9, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

This nutty NASA trollop has (perhaps a tad unwittingly) stumbled on the perfect solution for drooling liberal bedwetters.

Will the filthy scum in San Fran Sicko and the treasonous appeasing socialist republicks of VT and MA will now set up a chain of specialist shops selling diapers for cut and run lefties? Will the deadbeat stinky hippie run pot shops in Kalifornia also sell a line of diapers for stoned slackers.

The shameful cowardly term Peacenicks will now become PEEcenicks as GOPers gleefully look to literally take the p!ss out of hateful incontinent liberals.

Indeed pinko blush pink PEEcenick diapers will now allow the Sheehanbitch and perfidious roly poly vermin like M. Moore (using an XXXXXXXXXXXXXL diaper) to noxiously pollute the area in and around Crawford without running to one of Biden’s infamous Indian run 7-11’s for a ‘recycling Cuban one parent marxist lesbian cooperative coffee/tea event’. The mountain of smelly heavily soiled PEEcenick diapers can be trucked using ethanol powered lorries across the fruited plain to be vaingloriously recycled by the NY Slimes for all the Bush hate fit to print.

Those cut and run leftist turds unwilling to use PEEcenick diapers or those lazy sluts and slovenly queers who fall off the PEEcenick wagon can be forced by a Kangaroo GreenPEEce PBS televised Court to attend Bedwetters Anonymous meetings to get the PEE back into PEEcenick.

All this suddenly becomes possible because a nutty NASA trollop tried to be a Canadian Mountie, but, like the poisonous tub of leftist lard O’Donnell, failed to get her man!! (gedditt??)

By Van

February 9, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Please explain how a state funded health care for Children is related to the federally funded war in Iraq?

By J

February 9, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

“I’m rebuilding a national Democratic Party to my liking.” Yes, please do. You can have Harold Ford and Zell Miller, too. Take all the other Dem-in-name-onlys with you. I’ll enjoy watching you split votes off from the Repubs.

So, Jim, reality check: the one Dem senate candidate who ran most like a Repub (H. Ford) LOST. Lieberman? Had to fight (and rely on Repubs) for what should have been a safe, easy re-election. Seriously, Dems flourish in national elections and the party needs “rebuilding”? You’re out-of-touch with reality…again…but, so are a lot of other “conservatives” these days.

Speaking of which: no mention of Secretary Gates and Joint Chiefs Chairman Pace smacking-down, nay, DESTROYING the favorite Repub talking point on Iraq?? (That is, the idea that engaging in democracy and debate somehow damages it and helps the enemy.) Hah hah hah!! Republicans get embarrassed by their own wartime appointee!!! Jim likes to bash “bureaucrats”, but apparently they actually understand reality far better than politicians and opinion “writers”.

Up next: Jim’s new political party (the Wootocrats? Conservawhiners?) demands Iranian blood from the safety of their computer keyboards, declares having your own opinion unpatriotic!

By Van

February 9, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Kelly,

Please educate me in the teachings of the great socialists. Where am I wrong in my assumptions.

Explain to me where the lefties are when the tax man comes, as he will come to all working people.

By J

February 9, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

And: FEMA fraud = Bush administration cronyism & incompetence. FEMA and other agencies are a mess because BushCo HATES OVERSIGHT, and believes that political allegiance is far more important than, you know, actual ability or knowledge. And successive Repub-dominated congresses were far to busy diagnosing people via video and scaring us over gay marriage to actually DO THEIR JOB.

Jim, if the federal government is a mess, BLAME THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE OF IT FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS!!!! BUSH AND THE REPUBLICANS!!!!

By Curious Observer

February 9, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Hooray for the proposal to add a $200 fee to the fine for speeding, but it doesn’t go far enough. Here are some proposed additions:

I hope that Sonny will see the good sense of these modest additions. The major problem with traffic is not the old geezer who drives slowly in a lane, although I would favor a major fine for retired people who choose to schedule their discretionary appointments during rush hour. Maybe they could be deprived of their false teeth for a week or two.

By J

February 9, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

via Vanity Fair:

“Everything the advocates of war said would happen hasn’t happened,” says the president of Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist, an influential conservative who backed the Iraq invasion. “And all the things the critics said would happen have happened. [The president’s neoconservative advisers] are effectively saying, ‘Invade Iran. Then everyone will see how smart we are.’ But after you’ve lost x number of times at the roulette wheel, do you double-down?”

By JoeD

February 9, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Van, do you honestly believe you have described all “lefties”? Do you honestly believe no “lefties” pay no taxes? If you do, then no amount of discussion will help. When you want to start from an honest position, let us know.

By Lily Toad

February 9, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

More taxes for comprehensive health care — I’m all for it. I’d rather pay taxes to make sure all citizens receive health care than for my taxes to support killing civilians in Iraq.

By Edwin Williams

February 9, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

I disagree. We should go back to elected Superintendents. I was well acquainted with both and the elective system works better and is more responsive to the needs of the students, teachers and parents. Elected superintendents also are better acquainted with their systems as a rule and have a stake in the community.

By J

February 9, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Edwin: “Elected superintendents also are better acquainted with their systems as a rule and have a stake in the community.”

I don’t know that that necessarily follows. Presumably appointed superintendents would be career professionals, while elected superintendents would be drawn to the position via politics, not inherent experience (which isn’t to say they would all be inexperienced, just that it could de-emphasize direct experience).

The problem with arguing over whether supers should be appointed or elected obscures the real point: accountability. I would argue that it’s best to have an elected and highly accountable board that appoints a superintendent. The super should be a professional, and in the case where a school system lands an effective one, this would provide the opportunity for continuity even as boards change.

I think the superintendents have enough on their plate without politics, reelection, and campaign fundraising. In reality, the main reason we have such educational issues (and uneven quality) in this state is that “local control” is allowed to trump high standards time and time again.

So, while I think appointed supers are better, I guess I can only conclude that it doesn’t really matter - unless we push high standards from the state on down, we’re destined to get sub-par results no matter how the leaders are selected…

By Van

February 9, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

JoeD,

I am just responding to all the rhetoric about the Bush tax cuts and John Edwards advice that he will raise taxes.

The lefties seem fine with this.

From this I can only assume that the left either is very wealthy, like Teddy boy, or are in positions that they pay no taxes.

Everyone that works and pays taxes will get a tax increase when the Bush tax cuts are retired and the left is okay with this.

What else am I gather from this?

By Markus

February 9, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

So Johnboy “Neckbrace” Edwards is at least up front and honest with wanting to butt molest the taxpayer to pay for the whopping 16% of the US population who don’t have healthcare. BFD. Isn’t that just like a neoStalinist liberal to punish 84% who have a healthcare plan with a government behemoth of incompetence so that 16% can reap the “rewards” of universal healthcare.

I wonder by the way, how many of those 16% folk with no healthcare plan are doing so because they don’t want to spend $100-$200/mo. on a plan from Blue Cross/Blue Shield? Sure those below the poverty line can’t afford that, but I wonder, how many of those who don’t have health insurance and don’t want to pay reasonable premiums like that happen to be able to spend money on booze, nightclubs, concerts, chrome spinner wheels, sports events, Playstation games, etc. etc. etc.

Funny how you never see a gubment study on those statistics, hmmmm? I also wonder, when everyone has “free” healthcare, how many facilities are going to be overcrowded with people showing up for cut fingers, ingrown toenails, headaches, runny noses, ear aches, sprained ankles, wrist pain due to too much blogging against “nazi neocons,” etc. etc. etc.

Actually if you want an idea of that, visit Grady sometime, or watch a real ER series like Code Blue on the Science Channel and Trauma ER on TLC. That’s what it will be like. But like good little neocommunists, liborats want everyone to be equal. Damn the majority for the benefit of the minority. Mindless idiot bots.

By Dusty

February 9, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

How interesting and pathetic. While our troops are battling terrorists in Iraq, lefties at home are battling everybody that supports this war.

Under freedom of speech we get this from liberals: I support the troops but try to put out a non-binding resolution that will keep terrorists encouraged, forget the surge—bring ‘em home, cut’n’run is not defeat, Bush said he would not attack Iran but we know better, Iraq is taking medical care from WalMart children, Lieberman and Zell support the war so forget them, there’s a retired general who does NOT like this war, Hillary is not a war flip-flopper, Kerry is not a war flip-flopper, you don’t support this war because the polls say you don’t, Bush is a good president only when the war goes well otherwise he is an elected object of loser liberal contempt.

And again from liberals,”I support the troops but not the Commander-in-Chief!” Of course, there is no way to do that but liberals keep saying it anyway. They don’t tell us HOW to do it because it is just another face-saving expression from the cut’n’runners of the defeat-seeking left.

By JP

February 9, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Van, a reality check:

Reality: Extending the tax cuts without paying for them would be more likely to reduce economic growth over the long run than to increase it.

Reality: The President’s tax cuts affect small business owners much as they affect the population as a whole: they provide large gains to those with high incomes and little benefit to others.

Repealing a tax cut shifts the tax back to the original level. Common conservative implementation of the strategy of framing: cut taxes, then call a repeal of the cut an “increase” to prevent it from happening. It’s worked for a long time, but it’s not accurate or ethical.

The revenue cut to government is what conservatives want. What do voters want? Compare cutting taxes to alternate potential uses of the revenue, and you get a different answer.

By J

February 9, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Van - “Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday said that he would raise taxes on U.S. residents with annual incomes greater than $200,000 to help pay for a universal health care plan, which he estimated would cost up to $120 billion per year, the New York Times reports (Broder, New York Times, 2/5).”

I guess us “lefties” on here don’t make $200K a year. Which is basically the opposite of your “argument”.

Next time, before making unfounded, blanket accusations, you may want to use these little things called “facts” to make your case. You’ll find them in this place that we “lefties” like to call “reality”. You should try visiting it sometime. :-p

By Corky Cobb

February 9, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

How far would the 1 trillion dollars wasted in Iraq have gone had we invested it in our health care system?

Have you done the math Marquis? What do your fellow cowards, the French do for health care Marquis? Maybe they have a cure for Chickenhawk disease.

How far would the 12 billion dollars of cash dumped in Iraq have gone Marquis the cowardly?

By jm

February 9, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Van,

All this talk about tax cuts or tax increases is pointless unless someone is willing to look at expenses. Unless someone is willing to put everything (taxes, defense, social security, medicare included) on the table, nothing substantial will be accomplished. In the meantime, we will just continue to kick the can down the road for someone else to deal with (you know, kind of what Bush is doing with iraq).

By JoeD

February 9, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Again, if you gather from this that no lefties pay taxes, or have jobs, or are not on welfare, then there is no point in having the discussion. Those of us who will vote Democratic would prefer some honesty in government, especially after the last six years of this administration. If Edwards can win while honestly saying he will raise taxes to support universal health care, then more power to him. If he loses, at least he was upfront. And the Democrats have been against the Bush tax cuts being made permanent for some time now, since the deficit went crazy and billions were being dumped into Iraq. The workers that you so casually acknowledge will pay more in taxes, but not a tremendous amount. The big hit will be on the fat cats, which is why George and co. want to make them permanent. A rollback, a little sacrifice while we try to pay for Bush’s folly in Iraq, is not too much to ask. None of this makes “lefties” socialists. Your conclusion is dishonest and you know it, but I’m sure you will try to defend it.

By Captain Freedom

February 9, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

So much Right Thinking, and so little thought….

Honest John Edwards acknowledges his proposed $120 billion per year health care proposal will require higher taxes. Former presidential candidate Walter Mondale was honest, too. “Mr. Reagan will raise taxes, and so will I. He won’t tell you. I just did.” It was a very popular admission in Minnesota and the District of Columbia, but nowhere else.

Kudos Jim. Like you, I prefer my leaders to not tell me about how they intend to raise taxes and run up deficits. It makes the medicine go down easier.

*Public education continues to advance in Georgia. Headline: “People outsmart plants.” *

At last, there is hope for guys like me, Wooten, and Markus. Not yet, though— the average houseplant still can outthink most of us Right Thinking guys.

• Shut my mouth. Tip me over with a feather. *

One can only dream.

How many liberals would diaper up and drive 900 miles if they thought Barack Obama was courting the GOP? Most, I’d say.

Jim…in our advancing years, I understand your fixation on involuntary micturation undergarments, but even the Captain can’t figure out what you’re talking about here.

By Markus

February 9, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

A new national Democratic Party with Lieberman at the helm? That’s a joke, right? That party died after JFK in the 1960s. They are now nothing but a bunch of neoMarxist socialist pacifist candyassed liberals. Hell Evan Bayh and Harold Ford look like good candidates compared to what the current Rat pack asshats bring to the table. And don’t let Shrillary “I’m not going to sit around and stand by my man like some little Tammy Wynette” Clinton fool you: she’s a socialist neoMarxist to the core.

No comment about the NAACP. No matter what I say, I’ll be labeled a racist faster than calling Obama smart, which of course would instantly mean all other African Americans are stupid. How assinine can people get in this nation? Sick liberals. Anyway, I will say this though: the NAACP and AARP share at least two things in common as both are radical left wing neoStalinist organizations and both want to steal from the rich and give to the poor and “working class” whatever in the hell that means.

“Only in America is a budget increase of 5.6 percent a year considered a “slash.”” Yup. Kinda like how The Party Of The Jackass and neoMarxist liberals say that no annual increase in gubment spending on a gubment program is a funding cut.

Oh HELL no, FEMA can’t win so long as Bush is in office. They wrote out checks to alleged New Orleans residents faster than creamed corn through a goose. Bush & Co. knew damn well that even the SLIGHTEST delay in money allotments would be considered racist. Of course the liberal demoncats tried to nail Bush on a racist charge anyway, so they should have known better. Now look who’s b!tching about FEMA. Demoncats. Just another example of a sickness of the disease of liberalism. If you aren’t one of ‘em, you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. Sickos.

I won’t split hairs over the definition of “mother” or “father.” That sounds like something a limpwristed liberal would do. You know, those people get SO upset at labels like “liberal” and all and say they serve no purpose. Of course, those assclowns are the FIRST to set labels out there like “neocon.” Hypocrats.

Hmmm… the People for the Ethical Treatment of Plants. That’s the next step in the disease of liberalism. First, it’s no animal meat. Then, it’s no cars. Then, it’s no homes. Then, it’s no land ownership. Then, it’s no plant eating. Then, we all just die because we are destroying the planet. Sick liberals.

Those were Shih Tzus in Cobb County? I thought they were a just a couple of mangy unemployed liberals from Midtown running around looking for handouts from others.

Actually I don’t have a problem with Purdue’s additional speeding fine levy. Something has got to get those rice burning, coffee can muffler, neon butt, Fast-n-Furious wannabe punks slowed down on our roads.

A “privately run university.” That’s as dangerous a concept to the sickness of liberalism as a “private grade school.” It looks like Greece has the same union goons and idiot students that think they know everything in the freaking world at age 20 just like we do here. They say privatization will hinder education. Are they talking about “education” or “indoctrination” by radical left wing college professor pukes like we have?

So a bunch of union goons leak documents about Wal Mart in an attempt to get them to change their ways? And this is not a form domestic economic terrorism because??? It reminds me of the RAT pack jackass liberals supporting legislation that will allow unions to bully their way into an organization without even a FREAKING VOTE. Isn’t that just like a bunch of facist liberals to shove their ideology down someone else’s throat. Sick liberals.

How many liberals would drive 900 miles in a diaper to stop Obama from hitting on the GOP? Liberals wear diapers already. They are the biggest bedwetting babies on the entire planet.

How many liberals does it take to change a lightbulb? None. They don’t know how. They’ve always had the government do it for them.

By JoeD

February 9, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

And please remember, John Edwards hasn’t won anything yet. He is just putting his platform and ideas out there. He is entitled to do that under the Constitution, if I remember correctly. If he doesn’t win because of it, that is our privelege under the constitution. But none of us have the right to tell him he can’t put this idea out there for public consideration.

By J

February 9, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Man, it’s fish-in-a-barrel time this morning.

Dusty: You need to read (slowly, apparently) what Gen. Pace had to say to the House Armed Services Committee. “There is no doubt in my mind that the dialogue here in Washington strengthens our democracy, period,” Pace said as part of his testimony before the committee. “There’s also no doubt in my mind that, just like we look out to our potential enemies to see division in their ranks and take comfort from division in their ranks, that others — who don’t have a clue how democracy works — … would seek to take comfort from their misunderstanding of the dialogue in this country.”

So, what does that say about your understanding of democracy? Want more?

“As long as this Congress continues to do what it has done, which is to provide the resources for the mission, the dialogue will be the dialogue, and the troops will feel supported.” [Gen. Pace again] … [Secretary Gates] said servicemembers are sophisticated enough to understand that the debate is really about the path forward in Iraq. “I think they understand that that debate’s being carried on by patriotic people who care about them and who care about their mission,” the secretary said.

Since the first Neanderthal picked up a club, people have tried to see whether their enemies are divided, Gates said. “All I would say is, history is littered with examples of people who equated robust debate in Washington, D.C., for weakness on the part of America,” he said. … “Despite our own citizens’ beliefs for or against (the war), when our troops come home, their fellow citizens welcome them home and thank them for their service,” Pace said. … Ha ha, you just got smacked-down by a career military professional and a republican-appointed Cabinet member!

Fish in barrel: BLAM!!!

By Corky Cobb

February 9, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Isn’t this a great country, a coward like Marquis is still allowed to comment on the war!

By getoveryourself

February 9, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Everyone,

A quick poll…

…is Markus sexually frustrated?

just type yes or no.

By Markus

February 9, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Corny Cobb Butt:

You can take your CommieCare and shove it right next to that corn cobb. What you sick liberal gutter RATs say means nothing to me.

By getoveryourself

February 9, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

YES

By Political Foreskin

February 9, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Anna Nicole Smith

By Markus

February 9, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Corny Cobb Butt:

Why don’t you get off your fat liberal lazyass and go build a Habitat For Humanity home for the poor? You do care about the poor, don’t you? Then get off your fat liberal @ss and stop b!tchin’ on a blog about Iraq and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT for a change instead of shoving your wishes for others do something about it. Sick pathetic liberal.

By Corky Cobb

February 9, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Tell us Marquis, what you would do to the Iraqi’s if you were actually brave enough to put your scared azz money where your mouth is.

Tell us all about it coward.

By J

February 9, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

BTW, who cares what happens in Greece? I mean, seriously, you’re talking about a country that’s 20 years behind western Europe and whose political left has as much in common with the US political left as, oh, say, Kim Jong-Il and GWB have in common. (You know, since we’re making ridiculous, unfair comparisons.) Stop trying to make a point by comparing apples to ostriches. (Oh, and comment on something relevant, too.)

By Markus

February 9, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Boy I got the sick twisted multiple ID demoncat from hell riled up today! Go build a home for the poor and QUITCHAWHININ’ on a blog. RAT.

By J

February 9, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

enough with the name calling (all of you) this isn’t the O’Reilly factor (“SHUT UP!!”)

By Captain Freedom

February 9, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Now you candy butt Islamoliberals have gone and done it. Quit teasing Markus, it’s just not sporting to taunt our Gold Medal Winner in the Special Olympics of Commentary Dumbfuukkcery.

See, you’ve forced him to go all BOLD AND UPPERCASE on your a$$. And when he gets upset like this, his poor daughter will likely have to submit to two fliming sessions today.

By J

February 9, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

You know what, Jim Wooten, you’re right. If J. Edwards becomes President, he definitely SHOULD NOT be honest and upfront about the costs of his proposals. I believe he should follow in the footsteps of the current administration…IN THREE EASY STEPS!!!

1) Cook the books on the cost of the program before sending it to Congress by cherry-picking the data that works and ignoring/disparaging anything that doesn’t. You can always fire or reassign anyone who won’t produce what you want, after all. 2) Threaten to fire anyone who dares to reveal any unflattering facts about your proposal when you make it public (AKA “the truth” or “being honest”) - after all, the public can’t handle too much of that! 3) After your entire rationale has turned out to be lies and fabrications, and the REAL impact of what you rammed through Congress becomes known, disparage, slime, and smear anyone who is so bold as to challenge your authority and question your integrity.

You’re right Jim, how DARE he be honest with the public?!?!?

By Political Foreskin

February 9, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Anna Nicole Smith was our country in a nutshell. Every minute of her life exposed another of our national flaws. She was Ms. Liberty after the prom: unchaperoned and wet. Her superstar career was based on our insatiable appetite for cheesecake as a distraction to any real issue like war or injustice.

that says more than anything else.

By getoveryourself

February 9, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

J,

No…it’s the Douchebag Markus Hour where he posts long diatribes about nothing. He’s a novelty really. I mean I’ve never seen someone so wound up in my life. If shove a lump of coal up his arse, it will come out a diamond!

He thinks that he has a sense of humor, but it’s really lame. You should have seen last month when he played Family Feud on here with himself. It was so painfully sad!

BZZZZZZT….sorry Douchebag Markus…you lose. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

By getoveryourself

February 9, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

…Now here’s a classic post by our resident Douchebag!

By Markus

January 11, 2007 05:15 PM | Link to this

EU protests US strike in Somalia. Ok EU liberal pantywastes, W is not Clintoon. All together now, raise your BIG MIDDLE FINGER and tell the EU “WHO GIVES A DAMN!”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/e629d56a-a18b-11db-8bc1-0000779e2340.html

Who cares what those white flag wavers think? They will be overrun by Arab muslims in less than 20 years anyway.

It’s the Family Feud!

“Name the most popular UK baby name.”

“Johnathon.”

“You said Johnathon, you need 27 point to win $10,000.”

“And the survey SAID:”

“Muhammed.”

BZZZZZZZZZTT. Sorry EU, you lose.

By Jim Wooten

February 9, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

OK, Captain Freedom and others who inquire about the last item: If you read liberal commentary, or much of the political reporting, it’s clear — or at least it is to me — that Obama is the new darling of presidential politics on the Democratic side. Some of commentary strikes me as poltical love notes. Guess if you have to explain them they didn’t work.

By Corky Cobb

February 9, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

I sure hope Marquis uses BOLD AND UPPERCASE on them terrorists. We’ll win for sure.

By Kelly

February 9, 2007 01:03 PM | Link to this

Van at 11:33 “I am just responding to all the rhetoric about the Bush tax cuts and John Edwards advice that he will raise taxes. The lefties seem fine with this. From this I can only assume that the left either is very wealthy, like Teddy boy, or are in positions that they pay no taxes.”

No Van. You could have assumed that people you refer to as “lefties” realize that we have the most expensive and wasteful healthcare system in the world, and that we’re losing competitive advantage as a result (e.g. Toyota is opening a plant in Canada because our health care costs are too high). You could have assumed that “lefties” realize that it’s costing us more in the long-run to pay for health care for the uninsured and underinsured than it would cost to insure them. You could have assumed that there are people who believe that tax increases, such as those proposed by Edwards, to pay for health insurance are likely to be offset with lower health insurance premium payments and health insurance expenses – thereby saving us money in the long-run. You could have assumed that there are Americans who believe that we have an obligation to each other to make sure that all have access to quality health care – not just the middle class and wealthy.

You could also have assumed that “lefties” are willing to dig a little deeper into their wallets, if necessary, to to pay down the national debt now (see CJ’s post at 8:46) instead of passing it, plus exponentially growing interest expenses, to their children and grandchildren (resulting in higher taxes for them). You could have assumed that “lefties” see that our damns, roads, bridges, air traffice control equipment, levees, national parks and other assets that our economy and health depends on are deteriorating, and funds aren’t currently available to repair or maintain them (India’s economic growth is currently stunted because of deficiencies in their infrastructure).

If you, Van, were concerned about anything other than your bank account, then you could have assumed a number of things about so-called lefties other than the competely assinine assumption you claim –- which, in fact, was merely thoughtless parroting of the demagoguery you hear on your favorite right-wing radio shows.

By getoveryourself

February 9, 2007 01:08 PM | Link to this

Kelly with the smackdown!!

By Captain Freedom

February 9, 2007 01:13 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the clarification, Jim. I originally thought it was yet another soggy gibe at those who, like the Captain, occasionally suffer a um…ahem…loss of functional control. It’s bad enough that Mrs Freedom makes little comments, but to think it was happening here, where I command such RESPECT AND ADULATION, was a bit too much to bear.

I don’t read much of the Islamoliberaltraitor commentary. All that pointy-headed reliance on facts and reason leaves me cold. I prefer to get my information pre-digested from stalwart Right Thinkers like yourself and Messrs. Hannity and O’Reilly. Then, like a good conservative fledgling in the nest of True Belief, I can open my beak wide and take my nourishment in a more palatable form.

By JohnD

February 9, 2007 01:19 PM | Link to this

One question for the Democrats.

You never consider a cut in spending as a means to balance the budget. Why not?

Federal revenues are at an all-time high. Tax revenues are not the problem, spending is the problem! Limiting foreign aid, domestic programs and war spending would do the trick.

Bush deserted his base and the Republicans spent money like Democrats or the deficit would be a non-issue.

By Political Foreskin

February 9, 2007 01:19 PM | Link to this

The election is only 18 months away. We’ll still be in Iraq. Obama gains popularity by the minute. Therefore: Barak Hussein Obama will be our next president. The coincidence of Iraq’s last president being named Hussein is one of those era signaling harbingers of monumental change. The timing of our puff-queen Anna Nicole’s death signals that new era. Something is being formed in the chaos and rearing up in front of us like a cobra.

We are about to be made anew. Our entire existence to be redefined. Yes, it’s gonna require we raise taxes.

There, God wont tell you. I just did.

By holdingAJCaccountable

February 9, 2007 01:23 PM | Link to this

Re: Appointed vs. elected superintendents. Why is it we want to hold teachers “accountable” but not superintendents? And please, let’s dispense of the notion that a school boards, who routinely give superintendents they want gone by lavishing “golden parachutes” on them are holding them “accountable”.

I challenge any one to look at the AJC on this…go find all the words on “teacher training” “teacher competence” “teacher qualifications” and on and on and on…why are there little or no words calling for more competence, training, qualifications, or accountability for administrators?

Any one willing to step up and answer that challenge? I doubt it. Far too easy to scapegoat teachers for the systemic incompentence they toil under…

By New Life Church

February 9, 2007 01:26 PM | Link to this

Healthcare, Republican/christian style:

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) — A hospital van dropped off a paraplegic man on Skid Row, allegedly leaving him crawling in the street with nothing more than a soiled gown and a broken colostomy bag, police said.

Witnesses who said they saw the incident Thursday wrote down a phone number on the van and took down its license-plate number, which helped detectives connect the vehicle to Hollywood Presbyterian Medical Center, the Los Angeles Times reported on its Web site.

By Dusty

February 9, 2007 01:30 PM | Link to this

j @ 11:58

Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back YET. My understanding (and I don’t have a copy) of General Pace’ speech was the following: The troops know their duty and perform well no matter what is said at home. That they understand discussion and dissent at home about the war.

But then I thought that General Pace added that such discussion might encourage the terrorists we are fighting. You seem to have deleted that part.

Anyway, I wouldn’t think General Pace would say that he is against freedom of speech. The man is smart, positive and supportive of this war.

Perhaps you and General Pace have forgotten the morale destroying behavior of leftist during the Viet Nam War. How the troops felt about the lack of support at home is well remembered by many. How the troops came home and were booed and spit on. Oh yeah, they understood perfectly.

No, don’t get rid of free speech. But remember the results of what you say before you open your big mouth.

By Camus

February 9, 2007 01:31 PM | Link to this

Kelly at 1:03 p.m.

This is one of the best written posts to appear in Wooten’s blog since inception.

For far too long, the word ‘liberal’ has been bandied about as some sort of obvious punchline to a well-worn joke. Somewhere, the power of repetition has blurred the fact that this Nation is history’s greatest experiment in Liberal Democracy, and that the great leaps of progress in our history have been the result of liberal thinking and leadership.

Conservatism, on the other hand, while serving as a brake on the more extreme schemes of liberalism (as is proper in our democratic system) has inevitably been on the wrong side of history (slavery abolition; antitrust/Labor reforms of the early 1900s; public education; environmentalism; banking reforms of the Depression; WWII isolationism; civil rights; women’s rights; the list goes on…). And before some clever wag like Markus points out that many of the preceding list were spurred by Republicans, let’s just go ahead and acknowledge that the liberal impulse is not de facto the property of any single party or faction, and that even with the Republican Party of today — caught as it is in its thrall to nutjobs like Dobson, Falwell, Donohue, et al — is capable of redemption into the the finer instincts of our great nation.

I yearn for the day when reasonable discourse is possible between the competing factions. But as long as this noble sentiment of liberalism is mocked unfairly as a handy bogey for non-thinking chuckleheads — the likes of which cover this board like roaches is a cheap motel — I cannot say I have much hope.

By Brian Curtis

February 9, 2007 01:33 PM | Link to this

Kelly: Wow. You’ve totally nailed Van into the dirt. Well done!

Dusty, have you still not been able to come up with something new? I notice you’re still trying to peddle that “Questioning the President is betraying Our Troops” nonsense, and nobody’s buying it.

By Captain Freedom

February 9, 2007 01:33 PM | Link to this

Hey New Life Church.

At least they didn’t make him walk to Skid Row. Give some credit where credit is due. They did not just turn him out in the street, they thoughtfully took him where they felt he would fit in.

By jbmlaw

February 9, 2007 01:36 PM | Link to this

Dear Dennis @ 10:19, getalife told that one the other day too. Also, to J @ 11:58, I’ll refer you to Taranto 2/6 http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110009631 , who told us the whole story – that the Republicans rebelled when the Democrat leadership would not allow debate on Judd Gregg’s sharper-pointed resolution, knowing Gregg’s resolution would likely garner the most votes, Democrat and Republican, and thus humiliate the Democrat leadership. The problem is the Republicans wanted real debate, and Democrats refused to allow it, because all the Democrat leadership really wants to do is to send a message to the armed forces overseas and to the Moonbats at home, telling them they don’t want to win in Iraq. What do you guys have against real debate?

Dear Curious @ 10:42, funniest post of the day.

Dear JoeD @ 11:51 and 11:54, we Republicans also wish to see rollback in non-military spending, and cannot fathom why you Democrats are so unwilling to sacrifice (I suggest starting with Departments of Urban Affairs, Education, Labor, Commerce, and Agriculture. If you insist, Transportation also.)

I think you misunderstand the Republican attitude toward John Edwards’ honest embrace of tax increases. Voters always prefer to see spending cut and taxes cut; libertarianism is truly the dominant economic philosophy in America, by a wide margin. Given a choice between one who promises cuts and fails to deliver (or even lies about it,) and one who guarantees no cuts or, worse, promises increases, the voters will choose the former every time (excluding Massachusetts, New York, DC, and Kalifornia.) Thus, Republicans urge Democrat candidates to be honest about their intentions. That electoral fact is why the Democrats usually hide their agenda, a la Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton (remember, both were elected from the “moderate” wing of the party, meaning the non-Moonbats.)

Dear J @ 12:08, has it ever crossed your mind to ask why the birthplace of democracy is so far behind the US, or behind even Estonia, economically?

Dear Kelly @ 1:03, apparently the Toyota affection for the Canadian health care system was short-lived: “Toyota currently operates 14 manufacturing plants in North America and will open Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada’s second plant in Woodstock, Ontario in 2008. Additionally, Toyota will soon begin producing the Camry at Subaru of Indiana Automotive, Inc. (SIA) in Lafayette.” http://www.toyota.com/about/operations/manufacturing/

Now I’m not sure, but I think I’ve heard of that “Camry” thing – isn’t that the biggest selling nameplate in the history of automobile manufacturing? And their going to start building that thing in a place like Indiana with the worst health care in the history of the world. Japs must be losing their collective mind. Or you started with a silly premise.

You know you leftists would be a heck of a lot more persuasive if you would be willing to sacrifice worthless propaganda arms like NPR and National Foundation for the Arts and Federal micromanagement of education and agriculture marketing and slum construction. But then you would want the Federal micromanagement of “our damns (sic – suppose you want to regulate speech now), roads, bridges, air traffice control equipment, levees, national parks and other assets that our economy and health depends on” instead of leaving the stewardship with the appropriate state (or even better, local) government. Why shouldn’t air traffic control and national parks be privatized?

By jbmlaw

February 9, 2007 01:43 PM | Link to this

Apologies, low blood sugar. Should have written: “And THEY’RE going to start building that thing in a place like Indiana…”

By FYI

February 9, 2007 01:45 PM | Link to this

JohnD,

I’ll take a stab at your question.

First, I beg to differ with your 1:19 statement that Republicans in Congress spent like Democrats. Republicans didn’t spend like Democrats; they spent like Republicans. The myth that Democrats spend more than Republicans was dispelled by the combination of Bush and the Republican-led Congresses.

Here’s a something you might not have noticed. Anytime Congress spends money…that’s spending. For some reason, Republicans seem to think that spending money on obsolete cold-war weaponry isn’t spending. It counts.

We definitely need to cut spending, and Democrats are on the case. For example, Democrats are currently looking to save significant amounts of money by allowing the government to negotiate drug prices under Medicare part D. Our problems are not primarily with discretionary domestic spending programs. In fact, military expenses, interest on the debt, and entitlements devour most of our budget. Finding efficiencies in these areas (pay down the debt, replace cold-war weaponry, reduce the size of our bloated nuclear arsenal, get health care costs under control, etc.) are ideas that many Democrats support.

I consider such ideas as investments. For example, in theory, when you pay for somebody to replace a standard water heater with a tankless water heater, it’s more expensive up front, but less expensive in the long-run. Sometimes, front-loaded expenses in government(example: taxes to pay for health care) save money over time (example: lower insurance premiums and health care costs).

I don’t speak for all Democrats, but that’s my take.

By Filthy Feith

February 9, 2007 01:47 PM | Link to this

Filthy Feith admits making up intelligence that led to the invasion of Iraq, but claims it was only offered as “a possibility.” Of course the word possibility was never used, as this fanatical pro israel jew betrayed america for the benefit of his beloved israel. What is an appropriate punishment for this act of treason? I suggest the destruction of Filthy Feith’s beloved.

By getalife

February 9, 2007 01:48 PM | Link to this

Not to worry fakelaw,

The Dems in the House will vote on a simple resolution to get the gop cowards in the Senate to debate Iraq and vote.

Watch it on C-Span next week, should be fun.

By Filthy Feith

February 9, 2007 01:49 PM | Link to this

THE SOFT VERSION OF FEITH’S TREASON:

Pentagon officials undercut the intelligence community in the run-up to the U.S. invasion of Iraq by insisting in briefings to the White House that there was a clear relationship between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda, the Defense Department’s inspector general said Friday.

Acting Inspector General Thomas F. Gimble told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the office headed by former Pentagon policy chief Douglas J. Feith took “inappropriate” actions in advancing conclusions on al Qaeda connections not backed up by the nation’s intelligence agencies.

Gimble said that while the actions of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy “were not illegal or unauthorized,” they “did not provide the most accurate analysis of intelligence to senior decision makers” at a time when the White House was moving toward war with Iraq.

“I can’t think of a more devastating commentary,” said Armed Services Committee Chairman Sen. Carl Levin, D-Michigan.

He cited Gimble’s findings that Feith’s office was, despite doubts expressed by the intelligence community, pushing conclusions that September 11 hijacker Mohammed Atta had met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague five months before the attack, and that there were “multiple areas of cooperation” between Iraq and al Qaeda, including shared pursuit of weapons of mass destruction.

“That was the argument that was used to make the sale to the American people about the need to go to war,” Levin said in an interview Thursday. He said the Pentagon’s work, “which was wrong, which was distorted, which was inappropriate … is something which is highly disturbing.”

Republicans on the panel disagreed. Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Oklahoma, said the “probing questions” raised by Feith’s policy group improved the intelligence process.

“I’m trying to figure out why we are here,” said Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Georgia, saying the office was doing its job of analyzing intelligence that had been gathered by the CIA and other intelligence agencies.

Gimble responded that at issue was that the information supplied by Feith’s office in briefings to the National Security Council and the office of Vice President Dick Cheney was “provided without caveats” that there were varying opinions on its reliability.

Gimble’s report said Feith’s office had made assertions “that were inconsistent with the consensus of the intelligence community.”

At the White House, spokesman Dana Perino said President Bush has revamped the U.S. spy community to try avoiding a repeat of flawed intelligence affecting policy decisions by creating a director of national intelligence and making other changes.

“I think what he has said is that he took responsibility, and that the intel was wrong, and that we had to take measures to revamp the intel community to make sure that it never happened again,” Perino told reporters.

Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman denied that the office was producing its own intelligence products, saying they were challenging what was coming in from intelligence-gathering professionals, “looking at it with a critical eye.”

Some Democrats also have contended that Feith misled Congress about the basis of the administration’s assertions on the threat posed by Iraq, but the Pentagon investigation did not support that.

In a telephone interview Thursday, Levin said the IG report is “very damning” and shows a Pentagon policy shop trying to shape intelligence to prove a link between al-Qaida and Saddam.

Levin in September 2005 had asked the inspector general to determine whether Feith’s office’s activities were appropriate, and if not, what remedies should be pursued.

The 2004 report from the September 11 commission found no evidence of a collaborative relationship between Saddam and Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda terror organization before the U.S. invasion.

Asked to comment on the IG’s findings, Feith said in a telephone interview that he had not seen the report but was pleased to hear that it concluded his office’s activities were neither illegal nor unauthorized. He took strong issue, however, with the finding that some activities had been “inappropriate.”

“The policy office has been smeared for years by allegations that its pre-Iraq-war work was somehow ‘unlawful’ or ‘unauthorized’ and that some information it gave to congressional committees was deceptive or misleading,” said Feith, who left his Pentagon post in August 2005.

Feith called “bizarre” the inspector general’s conclusion that some intelligence activities by the Office of Special Plans, which was created while Feith served as the undersecretary of defense for policy — the top policy position under then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld — were inappropriate but not unauthorized.

“Clearly, the inspector general’s office was willing to challenge the policy office and even stretch some points to be able to criticize it,” Feith said, adding that he felt it was subjective “quibbling.” Feith maintains that the policy office and other, smaller groups created after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks proved prudent and useful in challenging some

By Camus

February 9, 2007 01:50 PM | Link to this

jbm writes “You know you leftists would be a heck of a lot more persuasive if you would be willing to sacrifice worthless propaganda arms like NPR…”

This coming from a guy who routinely quotes the certifiably insane Ann Coulter. Have you people no self-awareness at all?

By DRIED UP DIRT DUSTY IS OF NO IMPORTANCE

February 9, 2007 01:51 PM | Link to this

SHE IS JUST A DISTRACTION FROM THE REAL TREASON IN WASHINGTON BY THE PRO ISRAEL LOBBIEST AND THEIR COVERT OPERATIVES IN THE US GOVERNMENT.

By JP

February 9, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this

Markus, “What you sick liberal gutter RATs say means nothing to me.”

I bet if I searched I could find you criticizing liberals for their language and for sounding angry. But I’m not going to bother, because you’ve just shown why you personally don’t matter.

By Camus

February 9, 2007 01:55 PM | Link to this

Tommy Franks, who led the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, has been much quoted as calling Feith “the f******* stupidest guy on the face of the earth.”

But what does Franks know, anyway? He though the US would need more troops to secure Iraq, so Bush and Rummy fired him. What a loser.

By liberalextremist

February 9, 2007 02:00 PM | Link to this

Dusty each time you post you Markus and TFTT spit the same nonsense. Rush, Sean, and Neal are very proud of their nonthinking product. Your arguments are baseless, cut-n-run, cut-n-run, cut-n-run. Please come up with something else. Had Paul Wolfowitz done his job in the first place, we may not be in this mess. Bush and his minions screwed up. Face it. They did. Our preemptive strike strategy failed. Neo-cons such as yourself refuse to face the reality of the huge mistake the United States made in going to Iraq.

We made this mess, now it is the responsiblity of the United States to clean it up. Dusty all you can say is cut and run but you offer no plan for staying the course.

Unfortunately, the United States has put itself in a position where it must stay in Iraq and stabilize that area. A stable Iraq, can lead to a stable Middle East. We must be willing to build and develop honest coalitions with the people in that region. I am about to say something that most neo-cons don’t like but the word peace must play a central role in whatever future treatise that is developed. We have to fight like a hell in order for Sunni, Shia, and Kurds to get along. We must someone get these sects to realize that peace is in their best interest. What Bush and Co failed to realize, but what the Army college brought out in its prewar assessment is that these people have a thousand or more years of strife behind them and Saddam only enhanced that stife. But during his horrible reign, those groups knew their place and boundary and knew not to cross it. Now you freedom lovers out there may disagree with that last sentence but he did what he did.

We invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 but now has the potential to destroy this country. Now we must resolve ourselves to this open-ended committment to make sure that all groups in Iraq can truly live in peace. This my dear people will probably take another thousand years to achieve.

By jbmlaw

February 9, 2007 02:04 PM | Link to this

Dear Camus @ 1:50, make you a deal, we’ll cut off all Federal subsidies of Ann Coulter and NPR. Let the marketplace make the decisions on whose ideas will survive.

By Ordinary Taxpayer

February 9, 2007 02:04 PM | Link to this

Maybe you don’t care about a tax increase, but I do. I have maintenance expenses and taxes on my mountain chalet, my beach house, and my Atlanta home, not to mention the money that goes for my Mercedes, my Porsche, my Jaguar, and my Hummer. I need to pay a maid every month. And how am I to find money for my golf club membership if I have to pay for the medical expenses of the trash in this state?

The leftists on this blog need to understand that they can’t keep depending on us hard-working citizens to pay high taxes for everything they want funded. A failure to renew the tax cuts could put me into bankruptcy. A tax increase on top of that would send me to bankruptcy court that much faster.

By jbmlaw

February 9, 2007 02:06 PM | Link to this

By the way Camus, you must read Chairman Ann’s essay this week. She proves with irrefutable logic that Joe Wilson persuaded the CIA that Saddam was trying to buy yellowcake in Niger. I checked her facts myself, it was so fantastic, and she caught it right.

By Dusty

February 9, 2007 02:08 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

What you read from me is what you get—my opinion. It may not be new because I hear the same ol’ stuff on here every day. But relax, Curtis, you’ve got plenty of lefty sqawkers on here ready to point out everything WRONG even when it is right.

Look at that over long cut-and-paste job posted above. It is liberals still squabbling over why we went to war when THEY ALL VOTED FOR IT.

What a waste of time. Democrats said they were going to get a lot done. We see what they meant.

By jbmlaw

February 9, 2007 02:10 PM | Link to this

Dear Ordinary @ 2:04, I understand your dilemma. My monthly church contributions probably exceed the costs of your toys, and are unsustainable if the leftists have their way.

By Free State Paid Tuition for all Autistic kids at Marist

February 9, 2007 02:11 PM | Link to this

ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) — About one in 150 American children has autism, an urgent public health concern, said U.S. health officials Thursday who reported on the largest study done so far on the troubling disorder.

The new numbers, based on 2002 data from 14 states, are higher than previously reported.

Advocates said the study provides a sad new understanding of how common autism is, and should fuel efforts to get the government to spend hundreds of millions of additional dollars for autism research and services.

“This data today shows we’re going to need more early intervention services and more therapists, and we’re going to need federal and state legislators to stand up for these families,” said Alison Singer, spokeswoman for Autism Speaks, the nation’s largest organization advocating more services for autistic children.

The study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention calculated an average autism rate 6.6 per 1,000. That compares with last year’s estimated rate of 5.5 in 1,000.

The research involved an intense review of medical and school records for children in all or part of 14 states and gives the clearest picture yet of how common autism is in some parts of the country, CDC officials said.

However, those states are not demographically representative of the nation as a whole, so officials cautioned against using the results as a national average. The study doesn’t include some of the most populous states including California, Texas and Florida.

No conclusions on a trend Also, the study does not answer whether autism is increasing — a controversial topic, driven in part by the contention by some parents and advocates that autism is linked to a vaccine preservative. The best scientific studies have not borne out that claim.

“We can’t make conclusions about trends yet,” because the study’s database is too new, said Catherine Rice, a CDC behavioral scientist who was the study’s lead author.

Autism is a complex disorder usually not diagnosed in children until after age 3. It is characterized by a range of behaviors, including difficulty in expressing needs and inability to socialize. The cause is not known.

Scientists have been revising how common they think the disorder is. Past estimates from smaller studies have ranged from 1 out of every 10,000 children to nearly 1 in 100.

Last year’s estimate of 5.5 out of every 1,000 U.S. children was based on national surveys of tens of thousands of families with school-age kids. That fit into a prevalence range found in other recent studies.

The CDC also has been developing an alternate way of measuring autism prevalence, building a network of university and state health departments for ongoing surveillance of autism and developmental disabilities. The study released Thursday is one of the first scientific papers to come out of that effort.

“This is a more accurate rate because of the methods they used,” said Dr. Eric Hollander, an autism expert at New York’s Mount Sinai School of Medicine.

The study involved 2002 data from parts or all of 14 states — Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Maryland, Missouri, New Jersey, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Utah, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

Researchers looked specifically at children who were 8 years old that year. They said most children with autism are identified for medical or educational services by that age.

The researchers checked health records in each area and school records when they were made available, looking for children who met diagnostic criteria for autism. They used those numbers to calculate a prevalence rate for each study area.

The rates varied from 3.3 per 1,000 in the study site in Alabama, which was made up of the state’s 32 northernmost counties, to 10.6 in the site in New Jersey, which involved four counties, including metropolitan Newark.

Researchers say they don’t know why the rate was so high in New Jersey. They think the Alabama rate was low at least partly because researchers had limited access to special education records there.

By Silver

February 9, 2007 02:13 PM | Link to this

We did not vote to go to war, the isralei owned and operated politicians in WashingASS voted to go to war. It don’t matter none be they dummy crap or re pukes, they are all owned and operated by the pro israel loggy. Until you understand that little fact, you will be an ignorant sub human.

By pimp daddy

February 9, 2007 02:16 PM | Link to this

Hey tftt - yo b1tch, you din’t sho up and gimme my mony fo you whorin las nite. What up?

git yo @ss over hear rite now wif my mony b1tch for i has to puts u over my nee!

By Kelly

February 9, 2007 02:17 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

You comments on Toyota confirm my post. The Subaru plant and the others you referred to are existing facilities. Toyota decided to open its two newest plants in Canada instead of the U.S., primarily they said, because of prohibitive health care costs in the U.S.

You asked about state/local oversight. You get economies of scale, resources for greater expertise and needed consistency when the feds handle the infrastructure that the entire U.S. economy depends on.

On privatizing such functions — my child’s safety is too important to leave such things to the profit motives of the likes of the people who gave us the Ford Pinto. Here’s another small example of why federal regulation is necessary from today’s issue of USA Today (there are millions of cases of citizens demanding that government step in with new regulations after people died or suffered as a result of industry demonstrating that it is incapable of policing itself):

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-02-08-air-tours_x.htm

By jbmlaw

February 9, 2007 02:17 PM | Link to this

Dear Liberalextremist @ 2:00, you obviously know something I don’t know: “Our preemptive strike strategy failed.” Exactly when did Saddam hit somebody with his WMDs, those WMDs that NYT said (last month) were within one year of going on line? I know you leftists promised us that we would bring home 50,000 soldiers in bodybags due to the WMDs, but I don’t remember that either. Are you sure the pre-emptive strike did not work?

By J

February 9, 2007 02:22 PM | Link to this

Alright Dusty, here’s the full response from General Pace to Rep. John McHue’s question: “There is no doubt in my mind that the dialogue here in Washington strengthens our democracy, period.

“There’s also no doubt in my mind that just like we look out to our potential enemies to see division in their ranks and take comfort from division in their ranks, that others, who don’t have a clue how democracy works, who are our enemies, would seek to take comfort from their misunderstanding of the dialogue in this country.

“From the standpoint of the troops, I believe that they understand how our legislature works and that they understand that there’s going to be this kind of debate. But they’re going to be looking to see whether or not they are supported in the realm of mission given and resources provided. As long as this Congress continues to do what it has done, which is to provide the resources for the mission, the dialogue will be the dialogue, and the troops will feel supported.

“The other very important part that is very different than it was during Vietnam is that despite our own citizens’ beliefs for or against, when our troops come home, their fellow citizens welcome them home and thank them for their service.

“So those two things — both belief that our fellow citizens appreciate what we do, even if they don’t agree with what we’ve been asked to do; and Congress’s continuing funding, are the two things I believe we look to as military folks to know that we’re being supported.”

Your characterization of Gen. Pace’s words is incorrect. What he was saying is that if the enemy “takes comfort” in the debate, it’s because they don’t understand democracy. (Again, do you?)

And, even though the General directly refuted your Vietnam reference, let me state to everyone, especially the baby boomers: STOP EQUATING IRAQ TO VIETNAM! This is a different fight, a different part of the world, a different era, a different USA. All the graying boomers can only see things through their relive-the-60’s lenses, apparently.

The irony is that by using the Vietnam analogy, you miss one of the root lessons of the Vietnam War: every war is different, and treating a new conflict exactly the same as a previous one helps ensure defeat.

By J

February 9, 2007 02:25 PM | Link to this

Shorter Dusty:

yeah, you libruls can have freedom of speech, but if you use it you’re a terrorist-lovin-hippie

By Richard

February 9, 2007 02:27 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, don’t worry - lots of people know things you don’t know. That includes most kids and even tftt.

By J

February 9, 2007 02:32 PM | Link to this

How about a little stroll down memory lane with everyone’s favorite Republican crim, er, I mean, ex-President:

Richard Nixon: “Well, when the president does it that means that it is not illegal.”

David Frost: ” By definition.”

Nixon: “Exactly, exactly. If the president, for example, approves something because of the national security … then the president’s decision in that instance is one that enables those who carry it out to carry it out without violating a law.”

Hmmm…

By Dusty

February 9, 2007 02:34 PM | Link to this

Liberalextremist,

Your ID is absolutely correct. Easy to spot. You don’t want to be accused of retreating because that is what you want to do and you rather not mention it.

No, I don’t have a plan in Iraq. But the President and General Petraeus have the surge plan. So Democrats approve of the General but try to undermine the whole effort with a Resolution. Did you ever get a new job and then your “references” call up and say everything you plan is wrong?

Yeah, that is what liberal support turns out to be.

By getalife

February 9, 2007 02:37 PM | Link to this

w got punked:

“Iran used Chalabi to dupe U.S., report says” By Knut Royce, 5.22..04, Newsday

“WASHINGTON — The Defense Intelligence Agency has concluded that for years Iran has used a U.S.-funded arm of Ahmad Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress (INC) to funnel disinformation to the United States and to collect highly sensitive American secrets, according to intelligence sources. “Iranian intelligence has been manipulating the United States through Chalabi …(and Habib who furnished false info to the US including “Curveball” and top secret plus info to Iran ) ….by furnishing through his Information Collection Program (ICP) information to provoke the United Sates into getting rid of Saddam Hussein,” said an intelligence source who was briefed on the conclusions of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).”

Geez.

By liberalextremist

February 9, 2007 02:40 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, was Saddam a threat to the United States??? I’ll answer that question for you, NO. We should not have attacked a country that did not pose a risk to the National Security of this country. I base my argument on article entitled ‘An Unnecessary War’ by Mearsheimer and Walt. In in they state the following and “Saddam thus has no incentive to use chemical or nuclear weapons against the United States and its allies—unless his survival is threatened. This simple logic explains why he did not use WMD against US forces during the Gulf War and has not fired chemical and biological warheads at Isreal.”

I want to remind the neocons that your great Saint of Conservatism, Ronald Reagan, supplied him with the WMD.

It was probably some Neocon at the NYT who published the piece that you are referring to.

By getalife

February 9, 2007 02:41 PM | Link to this

A book for dusty:

American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America

Bingo!

By DebbieDoRight

February 9, 2007 02:45 PM | Link to this

Permanent license suspension for I-285 drivers who, seeing a long line of traffic waiting to exit, speed to near the exit, then stop in a through lane in an attempt to get in the exit lane, backing up cars behind them

Hey!! That’s almost ME you’re talking about!! (I don’t stop though I just whip right through) I just LOVE to jump in front of you guys, while speeding by in my hybrid, shouting out the window “See ya suckers and flipping old geezers!!” Ain’t it grand?!

By Van

February 9, 2007 02:47 PM | Link to this

Kelly,

Sorry to take so long, but some of us do work.

I noticed all your responses were basically that the Government is the only institution that can solve these problems. Wrong.

As to the Budget, we waste more money on government programs than we can afford.

Answer me this, which would be more expensive, a government run health system or a private health care, like many have now, with the government picking up part of the tab.

All those in favor another big government bureaucracy with a lot of high paying “manager” positions, like we have with Medicare, raise your hand. Now all those who would like the feds to pick up some of your premiums raise them.

Sorry, the left loses again.

Tell you where I am coming from. I think there is so much waste in the feds involvement in many areas, that if we trimmed it all down we could balance the budget, like the President is working on, the yearly deficit is shrinking every year.

Then if we eliminated several cabinet positions, Education for one, we could save even more.

IF we can get Congress to eliminate “ear marks”, get a handle on the entitlements and trim government spending on wasted projects, then we might be able to make health care affordable.

BTW, I still do not think the feds should be into health care or education. I also think Social Security is a dangerous program that is in serious need of revamping.

As a closing, I must tell you that the Federal Government has no source of revenue except for taxes, duties and other fees. The government has no goods or services that it produces. The only way to fund your utopia is to impose at least a 50% take rate on the working population. Europe has shown the way in cradle to the grave care, and we out produce them every year. The USSR tried socialized everything and it did not last.

Please explain again how the working folks will gladly pay higher and higher taxes to support the lefties Utopian dream.

By getalife

February 9, 2007 02:53 PM | Link to this

The gop just got punked

Wrong as usual.

Geez.

By Dusty

February 9, 2007 02:54 PM | Link to this

OK..J @ 2:32

We know what you are leading up to…that President Bush illegally started the Iraq War.

Now, to follow up on that, Congress was also “illegal” because they voted with the President. And the American people are “illegal” because they elected President Bush. You want to keep “beating the Bush” for some little Democratic pushups? Same ol’ stuff here every day.

By Richard

February 9, 2007 02:54 PM | Link to this

Van - whatever crap you want to throw at the “lefties” - remember, it’s the “righties” that attacked Iraq unwarranted and continue to this day sacrificing US soldiers over there.

The “righties” will always be wrong by continuing to cause the death of our US soldiers.

By HAROLD

February 9, 2007 02:55 PM | Link to this

GOVERNOR SUNNI PERDUE IS A MORNON.

CHARGING SPEEDERS $200 MORE ISNT GOING TO DO ANYTHING BUT INCREASE HIGH SPEED CHASES, YOU IDIOT GOVERNOR.

WHAT TO DO IS ABOLISH ALL TAXES THAT GO TO PAY FOR ANYTING TO DO WITH ROADS AND INSTEAD COLLECT ALL THAT REVENUE AT TOLLBOOTHS.

ONCE DRIVERS SEE THE COSTS OF DRIVING ON A DAILY BASIS, MILE PER MILE, THEN ALL OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS WILL VANISH AS PEOPLE START TO CARPOOL AND TAKE THE SUBWAY AND DEMAND COMMUTER RAIL.

ALL PARKING LOTS SHOULD HAVE EVERY PARKING SPACE TAXED $10 A DAY SO THE PARKING FEE GOES US TO $20 OR MORE

TRAFFIC CAN ONLY BE LESSENED IMMEIDATLYE BY PEOPLE REDUCING TRIPS BY COMBINING ERRANDS SUCH AS PICKING UP THEIR BEER AND WINE WHILE THEY ARE AT THE GROCERY STORE ON SUNDAY. HOW ABOUT THAT SUNNI.

ARE YOU RELGIOUS EXTREMEIST VIEWS MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAN REDUCING TRAFFIC SUNNI?

SUNNI ARE YOU LISTENING?

By liberalextremist

February 9, 2007 02:58 PM | Link to this

BTW, FEMA is basically suing college students in New Orleans and demanding their money back. To quote the Senator from South Carolina, Ernest Hollings after Hurricane Andrew damaged that state’s coastline regarding FEMA “the sorriest bunch of bureaucratic jackasses I’ve ever known.” He did a perfect summation of that worthless organization. FEMA has been useless since its inception. Clinton had James Lee Witt who tried to turn the organization around, but the right’s HERO, Shrub, made it ineffective once again.

By Dusty

February 9, 2007 02:58 PM | Link to this

A book for getalife:

Shakespeare’s MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING.

By DebbieDoRight

February 9, 2007 02:59 PM | Link to this

• a hospital van dropped off a paraplegic man on Skid Row, allegedly leaving him crawling in the street with nothing more than a soiled gown and a broken colostomy bag*

Hooray!! They found Markus!!! Thank God. Thank God!

By jbmlaw

February 9, 2007 03:01 PM | Link to this

Dear Kelly @ 2:17, au contraire, today’s Detroit Free Press suggests the same flaw in your post that I identified: Jobs in Canada may trim DaimlerChrysler AG’s Chrysler may cut jobs in Canada next week when the automaker discloses its restructuring plans, Canadian Auto Workers Union President Buzz Hargrove said. “Chrysler is going to make an announcement next week that will have a major impact on Windsor and Brampton,” Hargrove said Tuesday, referring to the Auburn Hills-based automaker’s Ontario assembly plants. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070207/BUSINESS01/702070301/1014/BUSINESS One sound business maxim, you don’t cut your costs where your operating expenses are the lowest. For all of the incredibly inefficient plants DaimlerChrysler suffers, you would think they would keep one with lower employee expense, unless the taxes paid to support the socialized medicine health care system are the determining factor? They cut only in Canada.

You vaunt “economies of scale” in advocating government management, but is that not illusory? Has government ever produced a better product or a lower actual production cost? Quite the opposite, monopolies – especially monopolies enforced by the power to incarcerate – always work less efficiently, and abuse the public trust.

As to your poor-parenting argument – “On privatizing such functions — my child’s safety is too important to leave such things to the profit motives…” why do you feel compelled to pick my pocket to compensate for your unwillingness to take care of your child? I understand you believe those who gave us the IRS will always do a better job protecting your child than any private entity you may freely choose, but you are wrong.

By DebbieDoRight

February 9, 2007 03:04 PM | Link to this

You never consider a cut in spending as a means to balance the budget

Have considered it. It’s called Stop Sending More Money To Iraq To Waste. Or by it’s B-Side hit, “Mama’s Don’t Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Dumbya’s”

By Van

February 9, 2007 03:04 PM | Link to this

Richard,

Try staying on topic, - we can expand on that thought later. Remember, your Congress critters voted to fund this war.

By getoveryourself

February 9, 2007 03:05 PM | Link to this

The government has no goods or services that it produces.

Van,

You must be forgetting about the federally-funded interstate highway that you used or the strong military that protects you or the CDC that fights epidemics and bioterrorism and also provides thousands of jobs to Metro Atlanta or the FHA which subsidizes the interest exemption on mortgages. I can go on and on, but you get my drift. You probably use more goods and services from the federal government than you realize.

By Dusty

February 9, 2007 03:06 PM | Link to this

Richard,

Ignorance is bliss so you must be blissful

America is made of lefties and righties!! Both approved of going to war!! Yes!! Congress!! Righties!! Lefties!!!

By the way, the terrorists are doing the killing. Remember them? Oh, you didn’t notice. Now, what is your nationality?

By J

February 9, 2007 03:09 PM | Link to this

Dusty - you’re the one that said it, not me. And, no, I’m not indicting the American public of anything. Again, that’s the beauty of democracy - you get to express opinions and disagree without being thrown in prison. Usually, anyway.

All the Congress is guilty of is willful ignorance, failing to ask questions, oversight. Their job, in other words. But, it was Republicans at the wheel, you know?

Actually, the Nixon bit came up in a discussion of warrentless wiretapping. However, I will say this: it seems to me that the administration is trying AWFULLY hard to tie Iran to what’s happening in Iraq (you know, sort of like mentioning “Saddam” and “Al-Qaeda” together a lot). Could that be because they’re trying to build a case to attack Iran? And they think that Congress may not authorize it? So they may need to find a way to do so without Congressional authorization???

(Which, by the way, could very well result in articles of impeachment if it turns into the political, economic, and military disaster that many have predicted. Google on Iran and sunburn missle.)

Take a look around what’s happening in that regard - it’s a replay of 2002. Dubious arguments, unverifiable intelligence claims, policymaking advice from academics who favor bloodshed…

As for Iraq, I’m sure that the administration was clever/careful enough to cover their butts in terms of legality. There was Congressional authorization after all, and as long as they can play the “we didn’t know it was bad intelligence” card, they’ll be in the (legal) clear…

Impeachment would be fun, but I’m far more concerned about stopping any MORE damage before it can be done by the President’s men. Like starting World War III by bombing Iran. Or losing a major American city to a disaster.

Whoops, the second one already happened!

By J

February 9, 2007 03:16 PM | Link to this

oops - I meant “no oversight” in the second paragraph…

still, the Republican-led Congress abdicated their responsibilities for political expediency

By jbmlaw

February 9, 2007 03:19 PM | Link to this

Dear liberalextremist @ 2:40, I am totally familiar with the anti-semitic arguments of Walt and Mearsheimer. I suggest you read, for perspective, http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008117

By jm

February 9, 2007 03:19 PM | Link to this

J@3:09 - before you talk about Articles of Impeachment, try to say this without gagging: President Dick Cheney.

By Redneck Convert

February 9, 2007 03:24 PM | Link to this

Well, I’m back but I can’t stay long. I just wanted to say goodbye to everybody in case I win my suit to be named the real father of Anna Nicole’s baby. My buddy Jim Earl tells me every man under the sun is claiming to be the father and I figure I was in the same city she was for a couple days at least. Thank God for those genrus Southern women! They don’t have no sex hangups the way other women do. They will shack up with anybody as long as you don’t tell.

Next time you see me I might not be driving a beer truck, I might be in a new Lexus with that baby in the seat next to me. See, the father gets to take care of the baby’s money, and I plan to take real good care of it, if you catch my drift. I might even get a new doublewide.

By HAROLD

February 9, 2007 03:27 PM | Link to this

AMERICAN PEOPLE DID NOT ELECT BUSH

FRAUD AND DECEPTION OCCURED AND THE SUPREME COURT SELECTED BUSH

CONGRESS VOTED BASED ON LIES FROM BUSH THAT IS WHY HE IS CRIMINAL BUT CONGRESS IS NOT

BUSH AND CHENEY SHOULD EAT SOME PRETZELS AND GO HUNTING TOGETHER

By HAROLD

February 9, 2007 03:30 PM | Link to this

J, YOU MEAN losing ANOTHER major American city to a disaster.

we alrady lost one under the watch of Bush and friends: TRemember New ORleans? It used to be a neat city in Louisiana, crime ridden maybe but still pretty neat

By J

February 9, 2007 03:30 PM | Link to this

jm@3:19 - yeah, I know. The thought of President Dick does make me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

Honestly, though, since there’s no f****** involved, I don’t think impeachment will happen.

By Dusty

February 9, 2007 03:32 PM | Link to this

J.. long winded at 3:09.

You sicken by insinuation. Let’s see now.

Being legal is covering your butt (his words). His explanation of the Bush administration, of course, not that all SHOULD be legal.

Academics who favor bloodshed.??Who?

Impeachment would be fun. Yeah, like it was for Clinton’s lies, only Bush has not lied.

The “President’s men” may start WWIII.

“J” wants to stop more damage by “President’s” men like losing a major city to disaster but the second one has already happened.

The President caused 9/11 and Katrina?

J, if you are going to put out propaganda make sure it makes some kind of sense.

By J

February 9, 2007 03:32 PM | Link to this

Dear Harold:

PLEASE STOP USING ALL CAPS! IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I’M BEING YELLED AT!

Also, punctuation is nice, as are complete sentences. :-)

By harold

February 9, 2007 03:32 PM | Link to this

Huh, Bill Livingood requested a cross-country capable plane for the speaker of the house

so what did the republicans do?

attack pelosi!

ITS FREEKING IRAQ ALL OVER AGAIN

god cant we get rid of these incompetent imbeciles before January 2009?

maybe the terrrorists SHOULD win

By liberalextremist

February 9, 2007 03:43 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

Why can’t neocons recognize the truth? Isreal is a very powerful lobby in this country. That’s not being anti-semitic, its just the truth. I don’t know how else to phrase it.

By wyatt

February 9, 2007 03:44 PM | Link to this

Van said “The government has no goods or services that it produces”.

Getalife said “You must be forgetting about the federally-funded interstate highway that you used or the strong military that protects you or the CDC that fights epidemics and bioterrorism”.

Van is correct. The government has no goods or services it produces. Van merely forgot to mention the words “on its own”.

Auto manufacturers don’t use our confiscated money, re: taxes, to produce their products. They use their own money. The government does not. The government uses our money to produce things. Therefore, Van is totally correct. The government doesn’t produce anything on its own. It collects from others to produce them.

By JohnD

February 9, 2007 03:45 PM | Link to this

FYI,

One six-year aberration of a President and Congress abandoning their constituency does not destroy the idea that Democrats are big spenders. The Democrats use the (awful) tax code as an income redistribution plan.

I realize the Democrats “talk” about reduced spending, as do the Republicans, but talk is about as far as they go. There really is not much difference in the two parties today. They simply use somewhat different “talking points” during the election campaigns.

A reduction of an increase is consistently referred to as a budget cut by the Democrats and Republicans are just as culpable on the tax side with the rhetoric aimed at Democrats.

The Federal government has grown to such proportions we must consider restoring the Constitution and the limits imposed on the duties of the central government. The only major duty outlined in the Constitution is as a central defense against our enemies. The departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Education, etc, etc., should be eliminated.

I agree with any reduction in the Medicare Part B debacle. Eliminating the program would be best.

Please keep the government out of healthcare, Hillary’s pet project to control our lives. The cost would be immeasurable. The failures of other socialist healthcare programs throughout the world should be sufficient evidence. In fact, Socialism is an abject failure.

By jm

February 9, 2007 03:49 PM | Link to this

Dusty@3:32 - regarding President Clinton’s lies, I still want to know how a special prosecutor who was supposed to be investigating a dodgy real estate deal that occured while President Clinton was governor ended up investigating oral sex in the oval office.

By Tara

February 9, 2007 03:51 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

I saw your link, but a U.S. based subsidiary (Chrysler) deciding to close plants located in Canada instead of closing plants located int the U.S. doesn’t help your case. Your link also provides no information about the reasons behind the decision.

I had read the news that Kelly was referring to. Toyota chose to open its newest plant in Ontario because of health care costs. What Kelly didn’t mention is that Toyota also chose Canada over the U.S. because of a better-educated workforce (notice how they specifically highlight the southeast U.S. in this article):

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/business/050630/b0630102.html

By J

February 9, 2007 03:54 PM | Link to this

Dusty - the veep runs around warning of the US losing a city to terrorism. But we lost New Orleans, and the poor FEMA response at every stage of the game is definitely a factor. As is political favoritism: note that Republican-led Mississippi got aid a lot faster than large parts of Louisiana. I seem to remember the President making some big speech from New Orleans, promising to rebuild it…and believe me, that ain’t happened.

Academics who favor bloodshed; I’m referring (perhaps clumsily) to the neoconservative “thinkers”, who ARE largely academics, such as the folks at PNAC.

You know, the ones who wanted to invade Iraq since the late 1990’s and were hoping for some traumatic major event (like a terrorist attack) to galvanize public opinion in favor of such an invasion. They got their wish.

This illustrious group includes folks such as Perle, Wolfowitz, and Doug Feith; the last one was singled out today by the IG of the Pentagon for inappropriate use of intelligence to support the case to invade Iraq. (Specifically, distorting intelligence to try and prove the mythical Saddam/Al-Qaeda link.)

Many of these folks are still within the inner policy circles that advise the president. And they’ve been making A LOT of noise about pre-emptive strikes on Iran.

Over 3100 soldiers dead. Doesn’t seem to be spreading a whole lot of freedom, just bloodshed and heartache. Supporting the troops doesn’t mean unquestionable sending them off to die for foreign policy theories.

By Courtney

February 9, 2007 04:06 PM | Link to this

“There really is not much difference in the two parties today.”

I beg to differ. There’s a HUGE difference between the two parties, and the last several years demonstrated that. The Republicans in the White House and the Republicans that led Congress were no aberration. Together, they had complete, unchecked power (except by us, via elections), and one can’t dismiss how they used that power by referring to their reign of incompetence as an “aberration”.

By JohnD

February 9, 2007 04:07 PM | Link to this

Do any of you liberals who keep blaming the administration for the devastation in NOLA recall the Democrats were in the Governor’s office and held the Mayor’s job?

The FEMA response was timed almost identically to the response in Florida when Homestead was devastated. In both cases the FEMA resources were positioned far enough away as to avoid the hurricanes and were sent in on similar timetables.

So why was there increased criticism after Katrina? Because NOLA had a citizenry almost totally dependent on government for their livelihood and the residents of Florida were self-sufficient, producers who handled their own problems. Now, who is primarily responsible for creating generations of people dependent on government? Yes, Democrats, the pandering to the poor, let us redistribute the income and buy some votes with taxpayer money, party of the Left.

Democrats are responsible for the problems because the Governor and Mayor did nothing in the days prior to the storm to protect the people who elected them. The Mayor did make sure to send buses to Atlanta and the other cities to bring them back to vote for him but he left them in the eye of the storm through his failure.

By DebbieDoRight

February 9, 2007 04:07 PM | Link to this

regarding President Clinton’s lies, I still want to know how a special prosecutor who was supposed to be investigating a dodgy real estate deal that occured while President Clinton was governor ended up investigating oral sex in the oval office

It’s called manipulating the circumstances to “find” the facts. It’s sort of like the WMD’s from Iraq were coming any day to strike american cities;then it was “We know where they are,he’s trying to hide them but we KNOW where they are!!”; after that there was; “Iraq is responsible for 9/11; and let’s not forget my favorite one of all time…..”Mission Accomplished!”

By DebbieDoRight

February 9, 2007 04:21 PM | Link to this

John D: Democrats weren’t responsible for FEMA’s lack of leadership, guidance, or common sense. That was a REPUBLICAN failure,(it’s called putting your gracious donors in good political positions because you already gave away all the really good diplomat jobs to the reall BIG donors).

By Dusty

February 9, 2007 04:21 PM | Link to this

j @ 3:54

Chaney is quite correct in warning us of the terrorist’s intentions on our cities. I’m surprised you didn’t know that since the terrorists mention is often enough.

Katrina destroyed New Orleans. Great money has been given for the recovery effort. Now, it is the lack of brains in Louisiana that is dragging the city down and slowing the distribution of funds. (getalife is from that state. Figures.)

Maybe you didn’t notice but Wolfowitz and Perle have been long gone. Feith is probably on the way out. Anybody else you want to mention?

We did not send our troops unquestionably. We thought about it for months and then approved it. It was for the future safety of our country even though you prefer to call it something else. Supporting the troops by telling them they are fighting for nothing is not my way of supporting them. That is YOUR way.

By Van

February 9, 2007 04:33 PM | Link to this

getoveryourself,

All those good things are funded by our tax dollars. What does the Government produce to earn income - outside of anything tax related? What goods does it produce that generates income for this country? What goods does this government produce, without our tax dollars being spent, that other governments buy?

GE, produces much in the way of goods and services, hires many people, creates thousands of jobs, WITH ITS OWN MONEY.

The big three auto makers do the same. Lots of people working paying taxes. What product does the big three make to sell to earn income?

What does your federal government do to get money to pay for those wonderful government jobs? They tax every working stiff. They impose duties on foreign goods, they collect fees and they grab as much of the GDP as they can.

So, if they can only get funds by taxing me, they had better do a great job of spending it wisely. Spend it like I would. BTW, I lived and raised my kids on 85% of what I take home. I wish the government could do the same and not dream up some way of nationalizing the health care industry or creating more dependencies on Uncle Sam.

By JoeD

February 9, 2007 04:37 PM | Link to this

So, now, after all these years, with Scooter on trial, Ann Coulter figures out that this whole war thing in Iraq is actually Joe Wilson’s fault. And by irrefutable logic, a term rarely ascribed to Ann. Come on , JBM, if there were even a chance that were true, Dick and Rummy would have been yelling from the tree tops long ago. The timing of this claim isn’t the least bit suspicious to you? You righties will believe anything if it comes from your designated mouthpieces. Van, why did the GOP do all the things you mentioned while they were in power? Earmarks skyrocketed last year, with the Republicans in power. Spending went crazy since the decider and his gang took over. Balancing the budget is a relatively new concern for Dubya. Social security is a “dangerous program”, huh? Tell that to the senior citizens who live off it. What is the basis for your claim that it would require a 50% take rate to fund everything you mention? do you have figures and studies to back up that claim, or did you just make it up?

By Van

February 9, 2007 04:37 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

Yes it was great to congratulate those Sailors and Marines coming home with a “Mission Accomplished” banner. I could not think of a better tribute to the men and women on that air craft carrier than to thank them for their work.

Yes, Debbie, that banner was for them. Just like when your boss says you did good on that last project, he isn’t thanking everyone in the company, he is thanking you.

By JoeD

February 9, 2007 04:49 PM | Link to this

Oops, sorry- should have said why didn’t the GOP all those things? And I’ll bet when the boss congratulated Debbie, he didn’t do on the deck of an aircraft carrier on national tv. That banner was for all of us and you know it.

By Amber

February 9, 2007 04:50 PM | Link to this

Van asked, “Answer me this, which would be more expensive, a government run health system or a private health care, like many have now, with the government picking up part of the tab.”

Van seems to be under the impression that our current private health care system is working. If it’s working for Van, then that’s all that matters.

Hey Van — private or public is a false choice (can also be some combo or the two can compete). People don’t want to replace or make changes to the current system because of socialist ideology. They want to replace or make changes to it because the current system sucks. Your ideology that everything the government does is bad and private industry is always better lacks credibility when there is so much evidence to the contrary. In reality, sometimes government (that’s you and me) does a better job than private industry, and sometimes private industry does better than government. So let go of your ideology and turn to pragmatism. We’ll all be better off in the long run.

By Van

February 9, 2007 04:51 PM | Link to this

JoeD,

“I also think Social Security is a dangerous program that is in serious need of revamping.”

yes, it is dangerous. Left as is, the drain on the GDP will cause wide spread damage. In 30-40 years when it breaks even(funds in and funds out) and starts paying out more than it takes in, the only way to keep our promises is to fund the difference out of the general budget. AND RAISE YOUR TAXES TO DO IT, NOT MINE. I won’t be here at 100+ - or at least I don’t think so.

By JohnD

February 9, 2007 05:15 PM | Link to this

DDR,

The failure was at the State and local level before Katrina washed away the 9th ward. Read the reports on FEMA’s response in South Florida and the response in NOLA. There are people in this world, on both sides of the aisle, who think if they say something long enough and loud enough then their fantasies become truth. FEMA failed, FEMA failed, FEMA failed. Perhaps there were failures but why would anyone believe those with political gain as their motivation for assessment?

Bush lied, Bush lied, Bush lied. The mantra of the Left, yet the very same words spoken by Bush prior to the War in Iraq were said by the Clintons and Democrat members of Congress during the Clinton administration. So they all lied if you wish.

Courtney,

The difference in the parties is striking; unfortunately there is little difference in their conduct in Congress or the White House. The only motivation for either the Dems or Reps is power, power, power. If you really believe any of the 535 “Members” (what a great description) of Congress care about you or your issues then you are lost.

The illegal immigration issue is a prime example. There really is no question the law demands the administration and Congress are required to defend our borders against all invaders. Is anyone in power doing so? NO, because they are trying to buy votes. Something in the neighborhood of 80% of the people believe the borders should be secure but yet only lip service comes out of Washington.

We live in a Constitutional Republic governed by the law, yet the President and the Congress continue to ignore the law and even the polls. This should upset anyone, whether pro- or anti-illegal immigration since the next law ignored might be the last law protecting YOU.

By JP

February 9, 2007 05:16 PM | Link to this

Amber, thank you for this point: Hey Van — private or public is a false choice (can also be some combo or the two can compete). People don’t want to replace or make changes to the current system because of socialist ideology. They want to replace or make changes to it because the current system sucks. Your ideology that everything the government does is bad and private industry is always better lacks credibility when there is so much evidence to the contrary. In reality, sometimes government (that’s you and me) does a better job than private industry, and sometimes private industry does better than government. So let go of your ideology and turn to pragmatism. We’ll all be better off in the long run.

I think of both government and private enterprise as means to an end. Whichever one produces better results is the one I favor. In many or even most cases that’s private enterprise, but I acknowledge there are exceptions.

By JohnD

February 9, 2007 05:37 PM | Link to this

Amber,

The current system of health care works just fine for people responsible enough to plan and pay for their care. I do not know anyone who feels the health care system has failed them.

The lines may be long at Grady on the weekends but then I suppose that is an example of the reason Grady asks Fulton and DeKalb Counties, and the State of Georgia for more and more money every year.

The US was not designed to be a huge social/welfare state. Employers are not required, nor should they be required, to provide health insurance for the employees. Group insurance is expensive and private individual and family insurance is more cost effective and follows the thinking demonstrated by the Left on this blog.

Please refer to the arguments by the Left made above for those who use the highways to pay for the highways.

Wait, I think I finally understand the Left manner of thought. If a Leftie needs the service then the government should pay but if the service is primarily used by Conservatives then the individuals should pay.

The government should not be involved in health care, period. If you think we have huge deficits now just wait until your Leftie buds push through a national health care program. You could go to Canada where the wait for your life-saving operation will only be three months longer than you can live without it, rather than the one year wait in the US. Either place you are dead.

By jm

February 9, 2007 05:50 PM | Link to this

JohnD@5:37 - *private individual and family insurance is more cost effective * - this assumes that you have no pre-existing conditions. One of the weaknesses in the free market model is that it leads to cherry picking.

By Amber

February 9, 2007 06:16 PM | Link to this

JohnD,

You’re woefully misinformed.

Canada is among several industrialized nations that have a government operated health care systems. These countries don’t have huge deficits as you claim would have to happen. In addition, you exaggerate the waiting periods for procedures in Canada.

Unlike most Americans (those satisfied with the current system are in the minority), most Canadians are happy with their health care system. Canada has a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality rate. The also have lower health care costs when measured as a percentage of GDP. It’s true that Canadians have to wait longer for most, non-emergency procedures, but given the fact that life expectancies are higher — this doesn’t seem to be a critical issue in terms of overall quality. I know your friends on A.M. radio have convinced you that you should only get your information from them, but you do so at your peril.

As to your implication that people without adequate health insurance are irresponsible — for many it’s true — many others work their butts off and still can’t afford it.

Also, Sonny Perdue is about to eliminate state income taxes for all Georgians over 65 (my 67 year-old boss is paid three times more than me), but he’s going to kick thousands of children off the rolls of PeachCare at the same time. Then he’s going to blame the federal government that can’t afford to help, in part, because of the Bush tax cuts and spending increases that got us into the financial mess we’re in. Classic.

By WootenDull

February 10, 2007 08:03 AM | Link to this

Anti American propaganda from the Urinal:

Iraq intelligence faulted! Data skewed to fit policy, senators told! Pentagon officials undermined the intelligence community before the U.S. invasion of Iraq by insisting in briefings to the White House that there was a clear relationship between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida, the Defense Department’s inspector general said Friday.

Gee, I thought we went to war over WMD, er, I mean “oil?”

“I’m trying to figure out why we are here,” said Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., saying the office was doing its job of analyzing intelligence that had been gathered by the CIA and other intelligence agencies.

I know exactly “why we are here,” that being democrats ragging on America anyway they can.

“Clearly, the inspector general’s office was willing to challenge the policy office and even stretch some points to be able to criticize it,” Feith said, adding that he felt it was subjective “quibbling.” Feith maintains that the policy office and other, smaller groups created after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks proved prudent and useful in challenging some of the CIA’s analysis.

So who would you trust, the CIA that totally missed 9/11 and is packed full of pinkos like Valerie Plame, or the Pentagon which has defeated Al Qaeda as a threat to American soil?

I guess that all depends who’s side you’re on, eh?

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By zeke

February 10, 2007 09:15 AM | Link to this

Funny that all the liberal leftists that submit comments here are pretty blind when it comes to the Constitution and their democrat leftist idealogs! The President cannot raise taxes, that is the work of a stupid leftist congress! Reagan’s tax cuts and military buildup caused the fall of the Soviet Union, which these leftist morn, and, the largest economic expansion in history! Now Bush’s tax cuts have fueled an even larger economic expansion! What liberals and socialist do not seem to understand is that when the government gets the hell out of the way, the economy flourishes, providing more taxes than a tax increase! It is not the governments constitutional authority to take your money, or my money, to benefit someone else! Medicare, medicaid and welfare are three examples of congress and the federal government unlawfully overstepping their constitutional authority! Same for the Supreme Court! In rulings like Roe and others, the court has made law, which is not it’s contitutionally mandated authority! Congress is the only branch of government constitutionally given the power to make laws! And the various activist groups, the aclu, naacp, rainbow/push, sclc, nation of islam, care, any labor union and others are nothing more than leftist, socialist, communist organizations bent on destroying the USA as we know it! The government was even stupid enough to allow the aclu to colect money taken from taxpayers to pay their legal fees! If taxpayer money is funding any of the following groups, it must be terminated now! The aclu, naacp, care, sierra club, wildlife funds, nature conservancy, rainbow/push, sclc, splc, any other activist group and ANY union are anti American and should be limited legally and constitutionally!

By Markus

February 10, 2007 09:38 AM | Link to this

Careful zeke! You will draw the ire of the horseass neoStalinist liberal pigs here. Your mother will be referenced in sick liberal sexual comments. You will be called sexually frustrated. Your posts will be kept by our resident no-life liberal multiple ID pack RAT for future reference… even months later. Just watch out. You are on their sewer list now. When the jackals on the left can’t debate, they menstruate.

Anyway, good post. We have an EXCELLENT economy right now. The media doesn’t report it as such because Bush is in the White House. If a sewer RAT were in office, the media would be having multiple orgasms over the record high DOW, former record home sales, unemployment even lower than Clintoon, and on and on and on.

There’s an old saying that is so telling of the demoncats from hell on the left: tell a lie loud enough and often enough, and eventually even you yourself will believe it to be true.

By Pillowbiters for Bush

February 10, 2007 09:40 AM | Link to this

Ahh, the usual bloodthirsty chickenhawk cowardly poofs have left their droppings on the Woo-ten KKKlan board this morning.

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By Markus

February 10, 2007 09:52 AM | Link to this

Dull-

“Gee, I thought we went to war over WMD, er, I mean “oil?””

Just the other day some liberal sewer RAT was b!tchin’ about how Republicans are always changing the reasons why we went into Iraq. Now the al-Jazeera Constipation is spinning off into al Qaida (not) in Iraq? WTF?

“I know exactly “why we are here,” that being democrats ragging on America anyway they can.”

Oh sure. That’s another disease of the sickness of liberalism. Always root and cheer for the underdog. Pigs.

“So who would you trust, the CIA that totally missed 9/11 and is packed full of pinkos like Valerie Plame,”

Don’t forget most of them were holdovers from the Clintoon administration. Funny thing though, Plame was NOT a covert operative, yet Republicans get hung for allegedly revealing her name (which has YET to be proven). Meanwhile, that pathetic liberal sewer RAT Sandy Berger gets to steal classified documents referencing al Qaida and events prior to 9/11 and nobody gives a damn. Which event was more important to the security of America? Worthless liberal jackals.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 09:55 AM | Link to this

There is an old saying that is often repeated by Chickenhawks like Marquis…“I WANT MY MOMMIE”

By Markus

February 10, 2007 09:58 AM | Link to this

I wonder, with that castle that pretty boy John “Slip-n-Fall” Edwards built (off the backs of companies and individuals in frivolous lawsuits), will there be a live in hairstylist for the Breck Boy? Pathetic hypocritical limolibs.

By Devastator

February 10, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Markus,

Just out of curiousity: Do you have any regrets, or feelings, or thoughts, or anything for the lives that have been lost on behalf of entering into this war in Iraq? Or does this forum just give you the opprtunity to blow off steam?

I originaly supported Bush and now I feel that I’ve been duped. I’m not a Republican or Democrat, I just want truth, justice, and the liberty to pursue happiness.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

It appears that the man of the 21st Century for the Left, the hero of Cindy Sheephand, the hero of liberalism, Mr. Hugo Shuvitz Chavez himself, is blaming suppliers for meat and sugar shortages.

It appears that the WORKING PEOPLE don’t like the state-run price controls that Shuvitz is mandating with his Utopian socialist state he’s aiming for.

This is an example of the way the disease of liberalism wants this nation to be run. State run, state controlled. Yeah just what we need. 78% inflation in four years. No wonder Jimmy “Mr. 12% inflation” Carter likes Shuvitz… Jimmy just didn’t have enough time. Sick liberals.

Funny how you don’t see stories like these played out in the horseass liberal mainstream media much, huh? I’m shocked the Washington Compost picked it up.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/08/AR2007020801240.html

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Its chickenshiites like Marquis that embolden the enemy. They see all these French-American Republican Chickenhawks that blog about the war and realize they are much too scared to do any fighting.

We were doomed from the start.

By AstroPain

February 10, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

“If the diaper dont fit, you must acquit”.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

The disease of liberalism. LMAO!!!

What about ChickenHawk disease?

They need to come up with a way to for Chickenhawks like Marquis to grow a set of testies.

By Frenchy

February 10, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Corky Cobb, the french and british where both defeated by the german blitz, and if the stinking american army had been defending french soil also, it would have been exterminated by the germans. you stupid kunt americans think you are super warriors, but you got your asses handed to you by the vietnamese, and the arabs are doing a very nice job of reducing you stinking army and marine jokes to bloody ruin. Next comes you planed sneak attack on Iran, in which 50 of your B-52’s will be shot down, 12 of your B-1’s, and ten of your B-2’s. All three of your aircraft carriers and their pussyassed battle groups will be sunk, and survivors machine gunned in the water. You can beg the french to save you, but I for one will refuse you stining request.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Marquis, you never did tell us what you would do to them terrorists if you weren’t so scared.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Boy, I sure as hell am glad to know from the loonbat left that we never had terrorism until that idiot Bush invaded Iraq. Prior to Iraq, what has the al-Jazeera Constipation, the New York Slimes, and Washington Compost reported in the history of terrorism against Americans and Westerners from islamofascists?

Like Dull says…

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/cron.html

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Prior to this prior to that. Who cares.

What are YOU doing about terrorism NOW Marquis? Going all BOLD on them?

LMAO! That will teach ‘em.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

OH my GOD, now even the French are braver than Marquis. LMAO, again.

By WootenDull

February 10, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

By Dullastator February 10, 2007 10:01 AM Just out of curiousity: Do you have any regrets, or feelings, or thoughts, or anything for the lives that have been lost on behalf of entering into this war in Iraq?

Which lives are you talking about, Dullard?:

How Many People Has Saddam Killed? By John F. Burns The New York Times | January 27, 2003 Even on a proportional basis, his crimes far surpass Mr. Hussein’s, but figures of a million dead Iraqis, in war and through terror, may not be far from the mark, in a country of 22 million people.

Or was it these:

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 VICTIMS This site is dedicated to the victims of September 11, 2001 tragedy.

Does it sadden you, Dullard, that Al Qaeda is too busy being slaughtered in Iraq to scheme on New York and Washington anymore?

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By WootenDull

February 10, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

By Frenchy February 10, 2007 10:21 AM you stupid kunt americans think you are super warriors, but you got your asses handed to you by the vietnamese, and the arabs are doing a very nice job of reducing you stinking army and marine jokes to bloody ruin.

You maggots haven’t seen 5% of the total power of the American war machine, we’ve got some issues at home with our Liberal Surrender Monkeys not letting us kick your a-ss the way it deserves to be kicked.

But you keep mouthing that puss-y sh!t nonsense and help us to get rid of our Liberal Surrender Monkeys so that we can turn our full attention on you.

Here’s to hoping you find out the hard way.

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By Markus

February 10, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

I keep hearing an annoying gnat buzzing around in this blog. Anyway…

The white flag-waving Frogs continue to have problems over there. Over a year ago, two muslim teenagers ran from the Frog police and trespassed into a power substation. They touched the wrong area and got a little “hot under the collar.” This caused a massive muslim riot for three weeks. It appears that the two Frog cops are being charged with some “pre-riot” charges of not trying to save the boys.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070208/aponreeu/francesuburban_violence

French law states that everyone (not just police) must make an effort to help a person in danger as long as they or others aren’t themselves threatened by bringing such aid. Awe, how liberal of them. Forcing someone to render assistance to someone else in danger by law. I wouldn’t put that fascism past Shrillary. Even so, I’d rather go to jail than save a liberal.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

WootenDull is right!!! The threat is real, we must do something. Our way of life is in jeopardy.

Its time for the ChickenHawks like Marquis to ENLIST!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now is NOT the time to hide under your beds with your keyboards.

FREEDOM needs you. AMERICA NEEDS YOU!

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Surrender Monkeys??????

I guess if you are too chicken to go fight you can’t surrender. Good strategy. Chickens.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

What flag of surrender do the chickenhawks wave Marquis?

Your sweat soaked bedsheets won’t wave, they are too heavy.

Maybe you can wave your keyboard.

By AstroPain

February 10, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

THe war in Iraq isn’t really a war. It’s geo-alchemy and international fission. A chain reaction of two cultures jammed together like in a global suitcase nuke. There’s no way to take the USA out of the Iraq (or vice versa). Once joined, they are fused forever into a new alloy, which itself is a new element, incapable of breaking down into it’s constituent parts. We have wed with Islam and no man can tear it asunder. We stuck our tongue on a frozen Iraqi pole and it cant be set free.

On mission accomplished day, the reality was that the Iraq War was over. But in it’s place was a new reality: a cultural osmosis of new and ancient, christian and Islamic, military and civilian. We have created a new state, unparalled in history, of a cross species hybrid of a nation fathered by two independent states forced together in a unprotested rape of protocol or diplomacy: it simply just happened.

The consequence to the USA is no national healthcare, or social security, forget them, the money is Iraq’s. We were so close to affording both, until 2003. We actually listened to Bush campaign in 2004 for a second term with the explanation about there being “hard work” left in Iraq. Somehow nobody slapped his face and kicked him out of the country and stripped his citizenship for that bit of moronium. Somehow everyone shrugged. Hard work, of course, he said hard work, and who can argue with hard work. Hard work. Anyone questions?

There was no political consequences for this sterile act of invasion and occupation. We reelected W when we had full intel about Iraq and the civil war there and the waste. Maybe we didn’t reelect him, maybe there’s been a coup all along and those forces are running things. Maybe no one but they are in charge. They. Who are they? Who are they.

By Frenchy

February 10, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Bring it on WootenDull, there have been at least two undetected nuclear armed French submarines off your east and west coasts for the last 40 years. Each submarine carries 40 nuclear warheads. So go ahead, turn your attention to France that way you have turned your attention to Iraq, and watch as we vaporize eighty of your cities. Unlike Ivan, we will not go for your DensePack ICBM fields, just your stinking cities. Brining it on chickenshit!

By Markus

February 10, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

San Freaksicko Holocaust deniar attacks a Holocaust Nobel scholar at a “Peace” conference. Now it doesn’t take much to know that San Freaksicko = liberal sickos = anti-Semites = Holocaust deniars. Once again the sickness of liberalism rears it’s ugly head. Peace my @SS.

“Wiesel (author) grabbed at his (punk’s) chest and yelled for help, according to the posting. The attacker said ‘Why don’t you want people to know the truth?’ Wiesel’s expression changed, and he began screaming again.””

http://www.examiner.com/a-556256~AuthorattackedinSF__hotel.html

Too bad Wiesel didn’t believe in packing heat. If that were me, that San Freaksicko peacepunk would be stretched out on a cold piece of refridgerated stainless steel right now.

By AstroPain

February 10, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

The reason there cant be any defined mission for our Troops is that there are too many players in the Iraqi political arena. There’s no starting point where anyone can say, “okay, we trust our president, and our parliament, and the occupation forces to stand pat while we all talk it out.”

See the problem? It’s a bottomless pit of unchecked paranoia and recrimination with every death. I suggested three years ago to pull back and let these people fight it out. I offered that it’s every nation’s destiny to have some sort of civil war. It’s also nature’s way. It’s also the right of every man to defend himself and fight for his own vision.

It’s even too late for that now. there’s too many international intrigues that keep us from gambling the outcome.

We are stuck in Iraq. Face it. Understand it. Compromise your own vision of your own future of your own country. We’re going to bankroll this civil war for it’s duration. then we’ll bankroll reconstruction. then we’ll bankroll peace keeping forces. then we’ll bankroll Iraq being iraq.

We’ll have nothing for Joe USA. We’ll all be housed in projects till they snuff us, and the people euthanizing us will probably be Iraqis. That’s the irony that glares in the universe and that’s the destiny that fools beget.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

People like Marquis usually end up proving their “bravery” by putting little puppies in ovens.

By WootenDull

February 10, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

By Frenchy February 10, 2007 11:00 AM Bring it on WootenDull, there have been at least two undetected nuclear armed French submarines off your east and west coasts for the last 40 years.

Isn’t it time for the Nazis to crawl up your a-ss again?

Shouldn’t you be nutting up to them, not the people that will have to rescue you?

You little nasty mofo’s aren’t very smart.

Cheese eating surrender monkey.

By Corky Cobb February 10, 2007 10:51 AM Surrender Monkeys?????? I guess if you are too chicken to go fight you can’t surrender.

Hey Strokey: You reckon Big Mouth Little Balls^^ has the whole entire country of France stuffed into those “submarines” he’s so proud of?

Or are they a bunch of “chickenhawks” too?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

“Too bad Wiesel didn’t believe in packing heat. If that were me, that San Freaksicko peacepunk would be stretched out on a cold piece of refridgerated stainless steel right now.”

Now how in the hell would you do this??? By going all BOLD on his azz? Maybe by hitting the caps lock? I’m sure he must be living in fear. Lol.

Maybe he’s in a wheelchair.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

If anyone remembers my posting last week about an Imam who gave a prayer prior to a DNC meeting (yes you read that right, a PRAYER), check this out. Metldowns ‘R Them.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/08/video-husham-al-husainy-on-hannity-colmes/

I heard this character was on Hannity’s AM talk show yesterday and the Imam threatened Hannity after being questioned if he believes Hezbollah is a terrorist organization. I wish I could have heard it.

Bloggerbabe Debbie Schlussel has these questions that the DNC should have asked the Imam prior to his “prayer” at the DNC meeting.

1) How many of your congregants are from the Hezbollah stronghold of Bint Jbeil?

2) Who paid for your mosque and please provide us documentation for the financing? Was any of it from the Government of Iran?

3) Why did you hold up posters of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini at a protest march in memory of Yasser Arafat? Will you condemn Khomeini?

4) Did you support Yasser Arafat, for whom you led a protest march? Will you condemn Arafat?

5) Will you condemn Arafat’s murder of American diplomats Cleo Noel and George Curtis Moore in Sudan?

6) Will you condemn the Iranian kidnapping and holding of Americans as hostages for 444 days by Khomeini and his puppets?

7) Where is the Zakat [“Charity”] money given by your mosque congregants going? Can you provide full documentation for where it is going and that it is not going to terrorists?

8) Do you really believe “Zionists” are behind the fighting between Shi’ites and Sunnis in Iraq, the murder of Imam Mohammed Bakr Al-Hakim in Iraq, and Sergio De Mello, the UN High Commissioner on Human Rights—as you’ve claimed in interviews?

9) Do you really believe that Saddam Hussein, up until his hanging death, was an American agent, as you have said in interviews?

10) Do you support Moqtada Al-Sadr? Will you condemn him and Jaish Al-Mahdi (the Mahdi Militia/Army)?

By Curious Observer

February 10, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Please don’t blame Markus for not enlisting. See, he had a cyst on his butt at the time. But though he is sore-a*******ed, he can roar with the best of them. Woof, woof! Markus. Those of us with honorable discharges can feel your pain and anger.

By Cal

February 10, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Great post zeke. Lyndon Johnson slipped on a slimy rock with his Great Society BS. Great Society my a*, it was the beginning of the great divide.

*”A place where men are more concerned with the quality of their lives than the quantity of their goods.” - Lyndon Johnson”

Is that BS or what? Let people keep their quantity & buy their own quality if they want it.

The only thing that Johnson got right was putting JFK’s tax cuts in place in 64. The same thing Bush is trying to do now.

In February 1964, LBJ shepherded another Kennedy plan through Congress: a $10 billion tax cut. This policy was largely a success. Over the next several quarters, consumer spending rose $45 billion, the GNP soared, and the federal government actually increased its revenue. As a result, most top policy makers accepted the tenets of Keynesian economics.

What did the liberals do when their great divide was threatened by Goldwater? Twisted the truth.

*”Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue…Our Republican cause is to free our people and light the way for liberty throughout the world.” - Barry Goldwater

Sound familiar?

To counteract this claim, Democrats portrayed Johnson as a man of peace and Goldwater as a militaristic kook not above using nuclear arms. Out of Goldwater’s slogan, “In Your Heart You Know He’s Right,” they crafted “In Your Heart You Know He Might.”

Sound familiar again?

Now watch the libs come in and blame it all on the war just like they did during Vietnam. Disgusting anti-war socialist kooks.

The damned SOBs can’t stomach a war. They’re useless whiners. Useless whiners looking for government to bail them out.

I liked Kennedy. He didn’t cave. He was the last GREAT dem president. All the others since him, Carter & Clinton have been people pleasers and terrorist appeasers. Who needs em?

It sure as he11 ain’t America.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

1) Why is Marquis to scared to do anything about it?

By AstroPain

February 10, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

R we to assume that all astronauts wear diapers in space? That there is no toilet for number 1? I’ve heard of some super vacuum lock toilet for number 2, but maybe number 1 presents too much of a physics challenge, all of which means that we have no business in space. There can be no interstellar travel, or inter galactic voyages. We are humans and we already have a space ship: earth. It’s on a cross universe trip of it’s own. there’s no where to go. We are already there. the universe is just a fractal of the same thing over and over anyway. We’ll travel a trillion light years just to find our own backyards.

Forget space. Plant a tree.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Liberals aren’t the only ones that are anti-war, are the Marquis?

By getalife

February 10, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Wow, a blog war.

Keystrokes are not bullets or bombs.

My goodness, the standards have been lowered to back up what you spew.

Leave the comfort of your computer and join the disaster in Iraq or STFU.

By Van

February 10, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

AstroPain,

They wear diapers when they do work outside the space craft. Those suits have no bathroom facilities. EVA’s can last many hours.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

“The damned SOBs can’t stomach a war. They’re useless whiners. Useless whiners looking for government to bail them out.”

Looks like there are a lot of them types around. Right Marquis? Cal sounds a lot like Marquis. I’ll bet Cal pretends to be a war hero though. Why give the coward republicans a free pass? Cowards. If you chicken shiit Republicans would put your cowardly mouths where your money is we could take care of the things you want done.

Put up or shut up.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Does anyone have a can of Raid? There’s an annoying little liberal dung beetle that keeps stenching up this blog.

Anyway, here is more sickness of the disease of liberalism. And again, a story straight from the bowels of liberalism where it was born: San Freaksicko.

Exhibit A: During any given day, one can protest at San Freaksicko U and burn a US flag or Christian symbol, pee on them, crap on them, step on them, wank on them, and throw a tampon on them… you get the point of sicko liberals.

Exhibit B: A group of college Republicans held an “anti-terrorism” rally and stepped on paper copies of Hamas and Hizbollah flags. Faster than a candyassed liberal can say Bush lied people died!, here comes a liberal neocommunist group called “Students Against War and the International Socialist Organization.” They called the Republicans “racists.” Long story short, since both flags use the word “Allah,” a resolution was passed to ban any desicration of said flags so as not to instigate a religious backlash.

Yes, you read that right folks. Right here in America we can do anything to the American flag and a Christian symbol, but those at San Freaksicko U can’t touch a Hamas or Hezbollah “flag.” BTW, I thought flags represented nations. Sick liberals.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/08/EDGRJN76O61.DTL

By Markus

February 10, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Get your fatassed lazy liberal self off this blog and go build a habitat for humanity home for the poor that you sick liberals care about so much or STFU.

By silver

February 10, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

What did John Glenn say to Neil Armstrong? “I think I pooped my pants!”

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

What did the Army recruiter say to Marquis? “I think you pooped your pants!”

By Markus

February 10, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Another headline in the AP that shows who’s side they are on. I wonder if this was done by that old liberal dried up walrus Helen Thomas or that beady-eyed liberal used car slickster David Gregory who has a liberal hissyfit everytime Tony Snow b!tchslaps him back to the corner.

Exhibit A: Rashid Hussein Mohammed, a former deputy director of operations for Saddam’s military, is on trial for crimes against humanity and slaughtering more than 180,000 Kurds. Intead of talking about what he did or didn’t do, this great Satan wannabe said that he wants the US to face justice for the Iraq war.

Exhibit B: The AP headline reads, “Anfal officer wants U.S. to face justice.”

Sick agenda-driven liberals.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070208/aponremiea/iraqanfaltrial

By WootenDull

February 10, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Hah:

Soviet monument to make way for Reagan: Opponents of Poland’s former communist regime reportedly want to pay a posthumous homage to US President Ronald Reagan by erecting his statue in the place of a Soviet-era monument.

The formerly oppressed people of Poland know who rescued them from the mass murdering communist trash; and it wasn’t no surrender monkey pinko.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

By Cal

February 10, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Corncob asswipe, Your whiney mouth is probably in my pocket already loser. Do you think bloated federal budgets are something new? It’s a decades-old addiction to spending, probably for your lazy a*, that has landed us in the position we’re in today.

I don’t want to keep giving it to you and your whiney liberals anymore.

That’s decades moron. Back to when Johnson and your dems created the great social divide. My money doesn’t belong to your sorry a*. Make your own money. Two thirds of the federal budget is being wasted on government entitles me to your vote programs of the dems.

Deadbeats like you are bleeding our national defense dry in more ways than one. Your liberals have a hand in my pocket and straight to your mouth problem. Get over it.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

1.2 trillion dollars for Iraq, medicare part D, bridges to nowhere, largest deficits ever, stfu.

By getalife

February 10, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

“Mr. President, I simply want to say one U.S. bomb on Iran and the regime will remain in power for another 20 or 30 years and 70 million Iranians will become radicalized.” “I know,” President Bush answered. “But does Vice President Cheney know?” asked Soroush. The president chuckled and walked away.

Who running this failed regime?

cheney needs to be forced to resign after the Libby trial.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

….12 billion in cash dropped off in Iraq, Katrina billions wasted, again stfu.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

$243 million Abstinence Only in this years budget, again, stfu.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

WD @12:19-

LMAO. I wonder what all those neoStalinist liberal jackass college professors are going to say about that since they teach their little indoctrinated eichman liberals that Reagan had nothing to do with the end of the Cold War. Oh wait, I already know. They’ll ignore it.

By Pillowbiters for Bush

February 10, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

News We’d Like To See:

The US Army, siting falling enlistments, has decided to suspend its “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy until the end of the War on Tare.

Locals Colonel Beauregard T. Realisp, Major JBM “Butt” Mustard, Andi/e, Bi Danish, and Markanus are some of the charter members of the Woot-ten KKKlan Rainbow Poof Brigade, and are reporting for basic training this week.

Andi/e, a transgendered person currently living in Marietta, GA, says s/he is looking forward to hand to hand combat training, “and hand to mouth, and mouth to zipper training too”. Said Andi/e, currently an unemployed prostitute, “like my mother, I’ve been around military bases all my life, in fact, she thinks my real dad was probably a Marine, or maybe a sailor with the Seventh Fleet.”

Light (in his loafers) Colonel Realisp says that he and Major Mustard have spent “hundreds of hours” designing uniforms for the Brigade, which they have nicknamed the Fabulous Fighting Fairies, although the Colonel says the unit will use “extraordinary means” to avoid real combat. “We’re to serve, and service the other soldiers”, said Realisp. “Our brigade members to a man, woman, and man/woman have extensive experience servicing our men in uniform, so we are all good at what we do.”

“Since many of us are southerners, and like most southerners we are conservative in thought but liberal with regard to our sexuality, we picked a basic grey for our uniform, with cute pink epaulets… sort of a retro CSA look,” said Colonel Realisp.

By Cal

February 10, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Corncob asswipe, Whats the matter dumbass? Afraid you won’t make it to old age without help? Afraid you won’t be able to enjoy that Medicare part D that all the old farts are happy about? Afraid you’re just gonna end up a fart, PERIOD?

Is the cost of our national defense a problem for you & your loser lib friends?

Are you afraid you’re gonna get tossed off the side of that bridge?

I won’t stfu. You keep whining because you sound like a pathetic loser. Everybody needs to know you for what you are. Weak & spineless.

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

3 trillion dollars added to the deficit since Bush became President, whats the amount of interest paid on that genius? again, stfu!

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Markus,

What they’ll more likely do is claim that Bushco made Poland put up a Reagan statue so that the Halliburton statue building company could get an overpriced no bid contract, thus robbing the entire country of Poland of it’s much needed resources, which in turn set the rest of the world against us.

By Cal

February 10, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Corncob asswipe, Let me get this straight. The billions wasted on Katrina - was that the billions wasted on those that needed it? The billions wasted by Nagin and Blanco? Or was that the billions wasted by thieving frauds like you?

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Is that all you got Cal, nothing to back up your fantasy?????????

Drink some more kool-aid.

Now stfu, phony. No one’s buying your cr@p anymore.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 01:02 PM | Link to this

If Pelosivich wants non-stop transportation between DC and Sicko, tell her to get a solar-powered bus that also runs on corn cobs. Maybe during the “flyover” Red states they can just throw corn at her bus. The Mr. “Fly around the world burning Jet-A while b!tchin’ about man-made global warming” Alsore would thank her. Hell let everyone wear NASA-approved diapers too. Flushing on-board toilets harms the environment as well.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 01:07 PM | Link to this

Thanks RW. I just knew Halliburton and the “world” had to be figured in there somewhere. Sickassed liberals.

By Huh?

February 10, 2007 01:10 PM | Link to this

zeke’s post at 9:15 confused me. In one sentence he wrote that only the Congress can raise taxes, but in the next sentence he credited Reagan with tax cuts. So only the Congress can raise taxes and only the President can cut taxes? Maybe zeke is the one who is confused.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 01:16 PM | Link to this

British Airways is going to charge for bringing on board more than one bag, and US airlines are pondering it. So that’s why Mr. Pelosi was hoping for government transportation instead of commercial…

By Markus

February 10, 2007 01:28 PM | Link to this

Huh?

The president can support a plan to raise or cut taxes (drawn up in the House). Congress either approves or denies tax increases or decreases. (And in the current case of the RAT pack, not vote to continue it when the gig is up). The president can actually delay and stymie tax legislation like Clintoon did in 1998 to Newt’s Congress (look it up).

What the hell’s so complicated about that?

By FRENCH SPEED BOAD SINKS AIRCRAFT CARRIER RONALD REAGAN

February 10, 2007 01:28 PM | Link to this

The french captain survived, as did his speed boat, and is reportedly looking for the aircraft carrier George (pussyass) Bush. The good captain says the carrier was over rated, like all american made junk. According to the captain “all we did was make a big wave that rolled that big boat over, the way all americans just roll right over for a frenchman.”

By Markus is on the NO FLY list because of his obese weight

February 10, 2007 01:30 PM | Link to this

If Markass takes a window seat, the plane lists to that side. If Markass squats in the back of the plane, the tail drags, hence the NO FLY for Markass.

By MarkAss hasn't washed his AASSSS in years

February 10, 2007 01:32 PM | Link to this

Because his arms are too short to reach around his fat hips to his AASSSS. Poor MarkASS, can’t reach his aassss to wipe either, hence he never leaves his filthy home.

By Cal

February 10, 2007 01:34 PM | Link to this

Whats the matter CornyCob? Have you flooded the site with BS? Can’t get something going for yourself?

The gushing revenue produced by Bush’s tax cuts aren’t going directly to you & that’s your problem isn’t it?

Does reducing the deficit by 58 percent in the past three years scare you? Do the forecasts that predict a deficit below 1% of GDP not register in that dead space between your ears? Where has it registered for the last 40 years demwit.

Cry me a flood for fools. I want to see it loser. There won’t be many Americans crying with you. Things are looking up for them, their income & they’re not afraid to say so.

By Roll your leg over Dusty, here comes Frency

February 10, 2007 01:35 PM | Link to this

Slap, you like it rough, don’t you, you dried dirt bbiittch!

By Corky Cobb

February 10, 2007 01:44 PM | Link to this

Hey Cal, YOU are the one saying the liberals were spending all your money!!!!

Now its ok if a Republican does it????

You are truly an idiot.

By Huh?

February 10, 2007 01:58 PM | Link to this

Markus at 1:28. Good explanation.

You might already know this, but you didn’t mention that the first step in the budget process is that the President submits a budget proposal, as President Bush did last week. The last step in the process is that the President signs the budget passed by Congress (usually one negotiated with the White House — unless Newt’s running things).

It turns out that zeke is confused, not me. Thanks for the help.

By Cal

February 10, 2007 02:01 PM | Link to this

That old rough cob is irritating your a* isn’t it Quirky? The liberals running a 2% deficit over 40 years paying on entitlement programs I never wanted to support (that would be people like you) makes me smarter than an idiot like you.

Your failures aren’t my responsibility. Your failures aren’t anybody’s responsibility.

I’m out for now but I’ve only scratched the surface of how useless and nonproductive liberals like you can be.

By jm

February 10, 2007 02:06 PM | Link to this

Of course Zeke fails to mention that President Reagan more than doubled the national debt, something that President Bush is also doing. Quite a feat to also run a massive budget deficit during and economic upturn. Makes me wonder how big the deficit will be during the next downturn.

Oh yeah, fighting an open ended war of choice in a muslim country (afghanistan) did as much to bring about the collapse of the soviet union as President Reagan’s defense buildup (which was started by President Carter’s plan to upgrade the navy).

By Markus

February 10, 2007 02:08 PM | Link to this

Hey genius liberal multiple ID freak:

“If Markass takes a window seat, the plane lists to that side.”

Here’s a little aviation 101 for you. Because weight is so close to the longitudinal centerline inboard of both wings, the fulcrum of weight difference means next to nothing if a fat person vs. a skinny person sits on one side of the plane or the other. The same principle can be seen as you get closer to the center of a see-saw. I learned how to fly when your mama was still wiping your little ape @ss.

BTW, I work during the weekdays unlike you. You buttplugs on the left are here 7x24.

By Pillowbiters for Bush

February 10, 2007 02:25 PM | Link to this

looks like Markanus will be in the USAF F-agflyer Sissie Squadron…

By Dear Mr. Wooten

February 10, 2007 02:27 PM | Link to this

It looks like you need to discuss civility with the “newcomer” again.

Either that or boot the sucka-ss.

Your choice.

By AstroPain

February 10, 2007 02:29 PM | Link to this

With all these possible fathers of Anna Nicole’s baby coming out of the woodwork, (Gabor’s Husband?), maybe there was an astronaut in there somewhere, and maybe that explains how poor Anna Nicole was kilt: by that diaper-sportin’ orbital freakazoid from hell.

Where was OJ when Anna Nicole died? Maybe OJ has to keel anyone named nicole now.

Like when you say “niagra falls” to moe.

By WootenDull

February 10, 2007 02:30 PM | Link to this

By Pillowbiters for Bush February 10, 2007 12:46 PM Andi/e, a transgendered person

I know, aren’t those he she people just so disgusting?

They’re just as sickening as Conservatives, right, racist?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 02:53 PM | Link to this

Once again we witness the sickness of the disease of demoncat liberalism. This time, as usual, it’s homosexual innuendoes in an attempt to insult Conservatives. Oh yeah man, I’m really going to give a monkeyass what these hypocritical scabs on the left think about people’s stances on gay marriage. Sick, twisted, pathetic, and disgusting liberal demoncat hypocritical pigs.

By Really Fat MarkASS tips over plane

February 10, 2007 02:56 PM | Link to this

It takes a lot of blubber to list a plane to the port, but MarkAss has it, sort of a Jubba the Hut kinda guy. MarkAss can only fly on the over priced piece of junk Loothead, the C-5A. Hey, I thought they had to pay the gov back for all that c5a theft, how come they are still at it on the F-22 and that piece of anicient metal the over priced c-130? Lets cancel all these aircraft orders now, before we go bankrupt supporting the dead beat neo-scum.

By AstroPain

February 10, 2007 03:09 PM | Link to this

Anna Nicole Smith

By @@

February 10, 2007 03:29 PM | Link to this

Gosh Jim, it looks like PoliFore and your “newcomer” AstroPain are both in mourning over Anna Nicole.

From Luckovich’s yesterday:

By Political Foreskin February 9, 2007 09:47 AM | Link to this

Anna Nicole Smith

By Political Foreskin February 9, 2007 09:53 AM | Link to this

Anna Nicole Smith

Outta site out of mind PoliFore?

Maybe Jim, can help put you out of your misery.

By AstroPain

February 10, 2007 03:33 PM | Link to this

Were those wild renegade shi tzus on the puppy torture jury? Talk about throwing the book at someone. Murderers can get out in four years, and usually do. I knew one guy who kilt his fiance and her lover when he broke in on them in flagrant delecto, and he only got four years, and I had to share a cubicle at work with this guy. I never knew if he was going to call a client, or pull out a revolver. Where’s the justice.

By Buy Danish

February 10, 2007 04:01 PM | Link to this

@@,

That would be too much to wish for. That “newcomer” PoFo is one sick puppy. Maybe Wooten could take him to the Pound.

By @@

February 10, 2007 04:22 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish:

Sick little PoFo pound puppies require newspapers like the AJC. They are prone to accidents. Running off at both ends is messy and smelly.

Nobody wants to put up with that.

I’m afraid that euthanasia for PoFo would be the ultimate act of kindness for all concerned. A virtual reality with harmless results to PoFo, pound puppy.

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2007 04:29 PM | Link to this

@@/Buy Danish,

When it comes to “newcomer” Polly, Mr. Wooten needs to ask himself WWCBD*

.

.

*What would Chuck Barris do?

By WootenDull

February 10, 2007 04:38 PM | Link to this

Conservatives always have the best ideas but they are also too afraid to try them.

I say let’s live a little, throw caution to the wind, take life by the horns.

Why not give booting Polly a chance? What could it possibly hurt?

If for some odd reason we start to miss the vulgarity, the mindlessness, the personal attacks, then we can bring it back, although I hope we don’t make a rash decision like that in haste.

What do you say?

It’s like Bush’s dilemma in a way, no matter what the man does, the pinkos are going to wail about it, gnashing their teeth, so why not do what’s best?

If Bush doesn’t bomb Iran, then the libs will hector him about the army being too weak; if he does bomb them he will be slandered as an oil monger.

So let’s wipe Iran off the face of the Earth; the libs are going to whine anyway.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Buy Danish

February 10, 2007 04:38 PM | Link to this

RW,

That’s an excellent question. Heck, I’ll even donate a gong if that’s what it takes. Or a leash.

Whichever route Wooten prefers to take, I’m right there - just as long as it isn’t the status quo.

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2007 04:49 PM | Link to this

@@/Buy Danish,

You complete me.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 04:49 PM | Link to this

Speaking of PoFolk, I am still laughing at @@’s total beatdown on the pathetic liberal sewer RAT a few Saturdays ago. That will go down in history as one of the best blogsmacks of all time.

Anyway, when the economy tanks in the next few years after the Pelosivich neoMarxists start tightening their socialist anti-growth taxrape noose, who the hell are they going to blame?

On similar topic, here’s a great column on how the economy of the Clintoon administration was handled by the liberal mainstream media and how it’s being handled currently by the same horseasses.

http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.25556/pub_detail.asp

By Buy Danish

February 10, 2007 04:50 PM | Link to this

RW/@@,

You had me at hello.

By @@

February 10, 2007 04:50 PM | Link to this

RW/Buy Danish,

Reunited, and it feels so good.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 04:53 PM | Link to this

No, I say keep gutter trash liberals like PollyParrot around. It’s nice to use their posts as an example of one of the many sicknesses of the disease of liberalism.

Where are the liberal sewer RATs anyway? Hitting the bong because there are too many Conservatives at one time on a Conservative blog? The idiots can’t control this blog like good little eichman liberal nazis, and it upsets them.

By Buy Danish

February 10, 2007 05:02 PM | Link to this

Markus,

If PoFo stuck to one name, I’d agree with you (maybe). But because he’s a wanking jacker^^^^, he has got to go.

There are plenty of examples of liberalism here, but it is impossible to have a “conversation” on this blog with this sick puppy using the AJC as his personal potty and pornographic fantasy station.

By Liberal Sewer Rat

February 10, 2007 05:04 PM | Link to this

Where are we today? Actually, unlike you whining losers, we’ve been out enjoying this beautiful day, doing things, and having a life. So sorry for you, Markus, Buy Danish, and RW. Why not meet in person and whine and complain together in a cafe or something? Surely you can think of better ways to enjoy a Saturday than this!

By JD

February 10, 2007 05:11 PM | Link to this

Hey Guys,

What do you say that each of us write a letter to our respective Congressman (or woman) and Senators to ask them to raise taxes to pay off the national debt. That way our kids and grandkids won’t have to pay the principal and interest on the money that we borrowed, and as a result, they’re taxes will be lower?

Are you with me?

By Rebel Rebel

February 10, 2007 05:11 PM | Link to this

Bi Danish has her mother in a whirl - can’t tell if s/he’s a boy or a girl.

Hot Tramp, how could they know - RW, she loves you so…

By HA HA HA HA HA HA HEH HA

February 10, 2007 05:15 PM | Link to this

FFuuck off MarkAss, Bi-Danish, Dried Dirth BBiitch, you’re all the same loser person, posting under different id’s and different email addresses. AOL allows eight different email address per account, as does Bell South, so faking it isn’t hard for U, now is it MR/MS/MRS Multiply Personality DDYYKE?

By Shemales for Bush

February 10, 2007 05:15 PM | Link to this

That’s be Andi/e, Markanus, Bi Danish, RW et. al.

The whole dull as dogsqueeze crowd…

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By Markus

February 10, 2007 05:15 PM | Link to this

Filthy multiple ID RAT liar. You haven’t left your dump. You never leave the dump. You post here 7x10 and everyone knows it. This is your life here. You get upset and take it PERSONAL when too many right-wingers get on this blog (and this is a freaking CONSERVATIVE BLOG no less). Then you claim we don’t have lives when you yourself spend the majority of your waking hours here. As far as today, 41 degrees is not my idea of great tennis, biking, golfing, or boating weather.

By Buy Danish

February 10, 2007 05:18 PM | Link to this

LSR,

Let’s see now. Even a certified idiot and all around jackass like you should be able to figure out that you came here 63 minutes after my first post, which begs the question as to what was so fabulous in those 63 minutes of your life, versus mine.

By FILTHY FEITH

February 10, 2007 05:23 PM | Link to this

YO Wootendull, you said “So let’s wipe Iran off the face of the Earth; the libs are going to whine anyway” IS A-OK WITH ME AS LONG AS WE ALSO WIPE ISRAEL FROM THE FACE TO THE EARTH TOO. LETS SEND THE PRO ISRAEL LOBBY TO ISRAEL, THEN NUKE THEN TO GLASS!

By BD's Neglected family

February 10, 2007 05:26 PM | Link to this

Why should anyone listen to Buy Danish? Would you listen to an addicted crack w*******? She’s addicted to the internet, on these blogs 7 days a week, usually all day long.

Get some help Buy Danish, please. Do it for your family.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 05:27 PM | Link to this

Hey PollyParrotBeak-

Newsflash. You do NOT have to log in with an email account to post on AJC blogs. Sick pathetic communist liberal demonRAT from hell.

By BD's Neglected family

February 10, 2007 05:31 PM | Link to this

Just so you know, Buy Danish comes from a family of very successful people. In fact her father went to Harvard. This makes her feel very inadequate, so she tries to fill the void here. In the mean time her family suffers through her addiction. BD, your family wants you to get some help. Please, go into treatment.

By WE ARE BANKRUPT

February 10, 2007 05:35 PM | Link to this

Nearly half a trillion dollars in debt will be added over the next two years, according to the Bush plan. But then, in the year 2012, the feds promised to deliver a modest surplus - of just over $60 billion. Of course, that will only happen if nothing goes wrong in Iraq or Afghanistan (how could it?) and you are willing to employ accountants who are inveterate liars.

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2007 05:35 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Don’t forget that LSR had to spend part of that 63 with someone reading the blog to her.

LSR,

I made my first post at 12:50 and my only other one before this one at 4:29, do you ever get tired of showing yourself to be a clueless idiot?

JD,

Count me out. Haven’t you gotten tired of that pattern where you Democrats put us into a recession and it takes a Republican to get us out of it? Let’s see about getting somebody in Washington to learn that a spending cut should mean you spend less money.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 05:38 PM | Link to this

Until Khofi the Khorrupt can ‘splain to us why China and India are not included in the Kyoto accord, he can flush his anti-capitalist neocommunist dogma INCLUDING global taxation right down the toilet where the rest of the liberal neocommunist filth dwells.

http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomline/unmonitor/inouropinion/globaltaxes.htm

U.S. OUT OF THE UN, AND THE UN OUT OF THE U.S.!

By Markus

February 10, 2007 05:43 PM | Link to this

It’s hillarious watching our multiple ID demonrat from hell get all p!ssy about the amount of time people spend on a blog when it knows that it spends the MOST time on this blog with multiple IDs, and everyone knows it. It’s too obvious. It must really SUCK to be a miserable, constantly p!ssed off liberal. One would think the asshats on the left would have been happy after the (well deserved) Republican smackdown last November, but hell no. They’re all miserable to the core. They never even freaking SMILE. Watch them on TV sometime. Buncha permanent mindless sourpuss bots. Pathetic.

By BD's Neglected family

February 10, 2007 05:50 PM | Link to this

You think Im kidding Markus? Watch how many windows to this blog she opens so she can keep blogging into the night. Its so sad. Ask her about her successful brothers.

By WootenDull

February 10, 2007 05:52 PM | Link to this

YO Wootendull, you said “So let’s wipe Iran off the face of the Earth; the libs are going to whine anyway” IS A-OK WITH ME AS LONG AS WE ALSO WIPE ISRAEL FROM THE FACE TO THE EARTH TOO.

Maybe if Israel’s spiritual leaders were teaching that Muslims were apes and pigs that needed to be suicide bombed, like the Muslims do to the Israelis, I could possibly get on board with your idea, wanker.

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Markus: I promise that I will “fondly” remember the liberals after they are gone. I will offer plenty of old pinko sayings to fill the void in their absence, of course I will be laughing at their silly a-sses the whole time.

But for now, the task at hand, for each Conservative, is to rid the world of the pinko a day until all of them are gone. I’m not talking about murdering them but instead excommunicating them to some island where their pestilence and filth can be controlled without it festering among our future generations.

True, we’ll have to do alot of scrubbing to remove their residue, but imagine what a wonderful, clean world it could be.

Now if Wooten could strike the first blow.

By Markus

February 10, 2007 06:04 PM | Link to this

WD-

Liberals are non-breeding themselves right out of existence. You know, abortion and “domestic partnerships” and all that anti-family BS. Just give it some time.

Look at those pathetic people. They’re already hitting the panic button. Heh.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2006/09/29/notes092906.DTL&nl=fix

By catlady

February 11, 2007 02:07 PM | Link to this

Someone please explain to me how/when Republicans got co-opted into Democrat-type legislation? How did they go from “free market” and “staying out of your private business” to the current attempts at over-regulation? I really don’ t think we have a Republican party anymore, just left and far-left.

By catlady

February 11, 2007 02:08 PM | Link to this

Ah, to be a right-wing tree hugger!