Thinking Right

By Jim's a Distractor

January 17, 2007 08:15 AM | Link to this

Economics 101 Jim…think it through.

If the higher salaries aren’t there, then the more qualified candidtates won’t show, but the less qualified candidtates will. Only the less qualified candidates will be available for selection.

If the higher salaries are there, both the less qualified and better qualified candidates will show. Accordingly, the selection process will have a better field of candidates to choose from. Hopefully, the better qualified candidates will be chosen, but then there’s politics…

Please note that I’m not stumping for higher salaries here, just pointing out the obvious economic fact that you evidently don’t understand.

By jbmlaw

January 17, 2007 08:31 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. Jim is too easy on the political class. The pension is the key – we can get rid of the lifers if we prohibit the pension. I would prohibit pensions or future benefits for “full-time” politicians also, although I can accept 401ks or similar deferred compensation plans.

I think we are putting the cart before the horse – all legislative jobs should be part time only. No staff – people who are not competent to write a complete sentence ought not be creating legislation, but that is a decision for the electorate; the voters deserve whatever they elect. Legislators and congressmen are like a board of directors, and should not be daily engaged in the affairs of the trust; they should set policies and exercise periodic oversight, but otherwise to stay out of the way, and certainly should not hang around.

I can justify a full time administrator or executive, whatever you wish to call it, to administer the daily affairs of the trust. In most ways judges are limited authority executives, and certainly have year round duties.

As to the pay, I would suggest $25,000 per year for full time legislators, or $30,000 per year for part-time legislators.

By Mid-South Philosopher

January 17, 2007 08:40 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

You have touched a raw nerve with me on this issue.

First, let me say that I see a difference between an elected representative (i.e., county commissioner, city council member, member of the board of education, member of the Georgia General Assembly, etc.) and elected executives (i.e., probate judge, sheriff, clerk of court, Governor, etc.). In the case of the first, there should be NO salary. It is called PUBLIC SERVICE! Reasonable expenses for these individuals should be appropriated, but not one damn dime in salary should be afforded. A limit of two terms in these offices should be in effect.

In the case of elected executive officers should be paid a salary 10% below the average executive salary in the county or state in which the officer functions. It is called PUBLIC SERVICE. No retirement system should be provided; however, contributions to a 401k plan should be permitted.

We have entirely too many “lifetime politicians and officeholders.” Teddy Kennedy has been staggering around the Senate since I was a teenager and I am almost ready for Social Security! Strum Thurmond waddled around the Senate while being serviced by hospice! It is absurd.

Term limits…that is the answer…but the chance of that happening is about as likely as the I.R.S. holding an appreciation dinner for Neal Boortz!

By KR

January 17, 2007 08:53 AM | Link to this

I’m less concerned with paying salaries (as long as they are reasonable) than I am with the lifetime effect of benefits payouts. So, I think there should be no benefits, except for a voluntary 401K.

Plus, I’m all for term limits. Elected office was not intended to be a career.

Can we get this on a ballot?

By Jim Wooten

January 17, 2007 08:54 AM | Link to this

Morning Philosopher, jbmlaw, Distractor and others to come. Sit by the phone, philosopher and jbmlaw, when my band of right-wingers take over, you’re definitely on the compensation/terms of service committee.

By TheOne

January 17, 2007 09:08 AM | Link to this

Mid-South….you hit the nail on the head!!!! Public Service now means your lazy azz can get paid top dollar for doing little to nothing, instead of it being public service. Our children have seen this in action for many, many years..that is why there are some who strive to be in politics….you can basically get paid for doing almost nothing at all….including getting under the table backscratching!

By The Truth Hurts

January 17, 2007 09:14 AM | Link to this

I agree 100% with Mr. Wooten. When you have people who, early in life, aspire to be politicians (because they know they probably can’t be successful at anything else) you end up with a person like George W. Bush as President.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 09:15 AM | Link to this

@ Jim’s a Distractor

You nasty little turd … you’re almost as anal as the other sad should have been aborted leftist tw@ts on here … these termites pathetically spend hours and hours posting the usual homofilth and sneers at (mostly) yours truly and some other conservatives. Jim’s a Distractor is a dolt - I always LMFAO off their leftist bollocks all day … niggling the lonely wittle wankers just enough to keep them going- kind of like feeding a crack habit … Jim’s a Distractor’s empty assertions show what a dishonest rabid little wankpig he is …you lefty vermin are fabulous fun to goad …

being able to goad leftist scum into doing this all day long - even when I’m not posting - is priceless.

I am smarter than feckpigs like U bubbaturd - I trust that’s abusive enough for ya …

have a great day working on the fries station

NOW F^ck Off!!

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 09:22 AM | Link to this

Cheers for the latest hilarious unhinged hissy fit The UNTruth Hurts … watching ALL the should have been aborted leftist scum on here ventilating their endless leftist bollocks and shiite is fooking funny!!

By deegee

January 17, 2007 09:23 AM | Link to this

You think that normal people with normal lives want every detail of their past and present splattered across the public airwaves for their opponent to spin, slice and dice to their advantage? You think that people like George the 2nd, Bill and Hillary just heard the call and decided to run for political office out of a sense of public service? You gotta be kidding me! Politicians are raised, groomed and selected for consumption by the party operatives. I believe that at one time political service was a call to duty but now it’s all about power and money. It’s too lucrative, not from a salary perspective but from a quid pro quo perspective. We could get good leaders if we would pay more attention to their talent than what they did 25 years ago.

By RJ

January 17, 2007 09:26 AM | Link to this

Public service is not a free service. It is a profession just like journalism and others. As a matter of fact, most of our Universities of higher learning offer undergraduate and graduate degrees in political science and public administration. While being able to inspire, conjole, and appeal to the emotions of the people are important qualities, effective leadership requires more. It requires preparation, which include academics and experience.

The corporate model is not appropriate for elective service for several reasons. Setting policy and overseeing the work of government are engaging activities. Effectiveness requires going beyond the suggestions and recommendations of full time staff, who a lot of times, have their own agendas. Who in their right mind wants to pay the price for becoming an elected official just to sit back and let professional staff make all of the important decisions, i.e. through the influence of recommendations. Effective elective service requires understanding the nuts and bolts of government, which requires doing more than what is put before you.

It is true that “you get what you pay for.” I’ll stop there in the interest of brevity.

By Redneck Convert

January 17, 2007 09:29 AM | Link to this

My friend Joe Bill says the pay don’t matter much when you are in office. He says it’s the campaign funds that matter. All the develepers want to hedge their bet about which one will get elected. So they give money to everybody. You can spend the money about anyway you want. No questions asked. A guy may only make $30,000 a year as a commisioner, but if he’s got a $300,000 campaign fund, he can live high on the hog and see the salary as just gravy. Even if he don’t win the election. That is why Joe Bill runs for office every two years. Course, last time he could only pay 5 bucks per vote and that’s why he lost last time to the guy that paid 20 bucks.

Joe Bill ain’t held a job since he was 20 and decided to be a politican. Course, I couldn’t do it. It would get in the way of my beer truck job, all that hand shaking and going to meals and booze partys paid by develepers. Now you know why most politicans are so fat and well off. And they get free tickets and all the other goodies.

By Southern Democrat

January 17, 2007 09:39 AM | Link to this

I wholeheartedly agree with both Jim’s and Jbmlaw’s comments.

My only other point, though, is we as voters take some blame for being deceived into thinking “experience” is valuable in any political office.

By @@RW@@

January 17, 2007 09:45 AM | Link to this

Our elected officials deserve only what pension our democracy can afford. Our democracy is based on Ancient Rome’s. Therefore, we should “Julius Caesar” the councilmen with rusty bolo knives like what the senators in Rome did and thus avoid any pension, healthcare, or entitlements. Et tu, Wooteh?

By Easy as Pie

January 17, 2007 09:48 AM | Link to this

niggling the lonely wittle wankers just enough to keep them going- kind of like feeding a crack habit …

It’s what we do on here every day TFTT…..and you bite every time. Your predictable hysteria is hysterical.

By Van

January 17, 2007 09:49 AM | Link to this

I have always thought that Congressial salaries should be either based on the average or median pay in the country(whichever is higher) or tied to how much the surplus was.

Removing the extra benefits, pensions and lifetime medical, might increase the turnover in Congress. It might in effect be a natural form of termlimits.

We might do the same thing with the state legislature. Imagine paying those under the Gold Dome, the average or median pay in Georgia?

By Randy

January 17, 2007 09:50 AM | Link to this

Wooten, Your first question goes back to your column on the fair-tax.

Should politicians be assisted in handing out aide to secure votes?

No aide. No pensions. No career politicians. It goes to motive.

By So Dimly Done Bright

January 17, 2007 09:53 AM | Link to this

tftt is such a dope, he thinks mannlicher carcano is a gay bar in dallas.

tftt is the John Wayne Bobbit of blogging: he’s always going off halfcocked! ( a real stump-wanker)

bwa t-t-turd duhhhhhh……RETARD!!

By Dusty

January 17, 2007 09:54 AM | Link to this

Truth Hurts @ 9:14,

Just save the space you used with your liberal piece and say “Bush Sucks…”. Then add “because he WILL NOT cut’n’run.” That will make your indictment clearer.

By catlady

January 17, 2007 09:54 AM | Link to this

Jim, I agree with you completely about political service. Those who aspire to it are in it for what they can GET, not what they can GIVE. And the perks are stupifying—compare them on an hourly basis with some of our horribly well-compensated CEOs. On an ounce by ounce basis, I bet it would be pretty amazing to compare (salary, perks, budget, personnel, etc). And public service is VOLUNTARY, meaning you know you’ll be sacrificing (but not as we have it structured now). With NO SALARY you’d get folks who really have the time and will to try to serve their fellows. Yeah, they’d have to be working another job—a part of being in the real world. I am not so naive to think that folks do it for service or money, but for the power it gives to reward themselves and others through guiding decisions in their best interests, and in the interests of friends and cronies. But as it is now they get both the power and the immediate financial reward.

By RJ

January 17, 2007 09:55 AM | Link to this

Southern Democrat, experience is important. If policy making and oversighting are the two important functions of an elected official, how will an elected official come by the knowlege. To be an effective policy maker you must have knowledge of the subject of the policy proposal, as well as the procedures for getting it passed. How can you oversight government if you don’t know how it works? These capabilities do not come from osmosis and they are not automatically bestowed because a person becomes an elected official. Preparation for elective office and experience in elective office are important to the job of being an elected official.

By BobG

January 17, 2007 09:58 AM | Link to this

Jim, I am with you. While an incredibly high salary might encourage someone to leave a full-time private sector job to risk the possibility of a part-time public job with more headaches, the fact is that salary is a low priority consideration. Just ask any candidate.

What usually draws someone into a political race, besides a legitimate desire to serve, is the ability to devote the extra time and the ability to raise campaign cash and marshal resources, which is often dependent on who you know. Basic economics do not apply.

In fact, I would argue that raising the salary from $12.5 to $29K will do exactly the opposite of what your first commenter argues. $12.5K is enough to compensate a successful and stable self-employed individual for the extra time involved in public service. $29K is enough to encourage a “still wet behind the ears” college kid or a deadbeat welfare mother to give it a shot.

At the very least, the argument that higher money will draw better candidates is unfounded. It might draw more candidates, but not better.

If my commissioners in Gwinnett are overworked, then the answer is not higher pay but more commissioners— but only if improved representation is your goal.

I don’t fault the Gwinnett Commission for wanting more money. I fault them for taking an action that results in no benefit to anyone but themselves. There is a problem with underrepresentation in Gwinnett; unless the four district commissioners are going to take that $29K and put in a 40-hour week at GJAC, they have failed to solve the problem that they claim exists.

By th south ga

January 17, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

The difference between a public servant and a politician is not the compensation. The difference is the attitude and the agenda… or lack of one.

By So Wrongly Done Right

January 17, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

And when we’re done with the likes of our state reps, we’ll play pharoah and remove any record that any of ‘em ever existed at all. So it is written, so it is blogged!!

Fun Fact: King Tut was the first blogging Pharoah. He wrote so poorly that you needed a Rosetta Stone to decypher his prose. Gee, who does THAT sound like?

I dont know, nobody come to mind, I cant think of anyone, drawing a blank here, it’s on the tip of my tongue, could it be……..WOOTEN?????

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

The nauseating designation “civil rights leader” is sadly now just the norm in US liberal/politically correct euphemisms for a non-white, non-elected, mostly SELF APPOINTED ethnic jobsworth type. Usually, certainly historically, it applies to blacks.

And a civil rights leader invariably (but in fairness not always) is either some noisy race baiter or some smug, self appointed lefty racial spoils type (usually politically way out of their depth). In fairness this is almost always more than made up for though by shrill rabble rousing, racebaiting and showboating for the cameras and normally a bunch of ready willing and unquestioning (or we’ll look the other way) leftist hacks masquerading as objective journalists.

Either way for your civil rights leaders its all about race and getting whatever they can - monetarily and racially etc - for themselves and their “community”. “Community” here being the euphemism for blacks or mexican types or arabs or whatever ethnic minority is being hustled for.

Invariably said “civil rights leaders” have little ‘expertise’ or academic background. Just being black or of whatever race is deemed sufficient qualification as the overwhelmingly p!ss poor quality of these race operatives proves daily across the fruited plain.

As we saw yet again on Monday with the fawning media coverage a good many self appointed puffed up “civil rights leaders” are nothing but religious windbags and demagogues, with little formal/academic training. But they have grabbed up RATHER THAN EARNED the amusingly largely empty title of “Reverend’ which gives them immediate access to tax exempt money and playing the media racial spoils game.

Those “leaders” that get elected are usually no better than the average religious racial huckster. They shamelessly, like Rangel, Conyers, Waters, McKinney, Jackson-Lee et al play the race card when ever legitimately challenged. And the overwhelmingly leftist media glibly goes along with this - explicitly or implicitly intimating or screeching bigotry when ever anyone reasonably/factually exposes their racial game.

This racial spoils game is by far the most unsavoury part of the US political game. But because the demoNcrat party simply cannot get power without the robotic, unthinking support of ethnic minorities its an incestuous, cosy, corrupt to the core relationship that the hateful left can’t EVER allow to be undermined.

This NY Slimes article about black racists and mexican type racists killing each other and drawing murderously enforced racial divides in the hell hole of LA is full of civil rights euphemisms. Amusingly speciously proffering the usual lefty uncritical multi-culti bollocks suggesting that its only really a few naughty gang banger types being beastly rotters.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/17/us/17race.html?ei=5090&en=a34ac77e3d9a409f&ex=1326690000&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

By RJ

January 17, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

BobG, The action taken does not benefit current occupants of the Commissioner posts. The increase becomes effective after the next election cycle.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

I see the anally obsessive nutter is at it again. Clearly such obsessional behaviour needs MORE rather than less emergency psychiatric intervention.

Knowing that a supposed mature adult is haplessly devoting endless hours and hours and hours to obsessing over a total stranger on a politics forum is indeed a magical reward for a job well done!!

Hope you enjoy my ACTUAL first post of the day on “civil rights leaders”.

By Southern Democrat

January 17, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

RJ,

The experience you describe can easily be gained in many other arenas: professionally, as a parent, as a volunteer, as a member of various boards. I think what you are describing, which I tend to agree with, is the need for experienced, non-elected and non-political bureaucrats to run the day-to-day government.

My friends on the left,

Not sure if you’ve seen this, but a friend found this link for me:

http://www.slate.com/id/2072609/

Scary how prescient he was, isn’t it?

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Clearly blacks cannot be trusted in this country and have never contributed to the advancement of Western Civilization. These dark types have perpetually INFESTED Western culture and values with black racist rap and other forms of bollocks. Black racist writers have nefariously injected their leftist agendas into the mainstream culture whilst racist black adulterous demogogues like MLK glibly pandered to the shamelessly corrupt racial spoils crowd. After defeating MOHAMMEDAN terrorists here and abroad our next glorious step will be the absolutely necessary expulsion of all negroid types back to afriKa!

By So Blithely Done Blah

January 17, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Citizens of Baghdad will live in the surreal contrast of peaceful, troop-lined city blocks juxtaposed next to corridors of carnage.

Then what, the troops are supposed to investigate the explosions that just occured in the next block? That would leave the peaceful neighborhood undefended.

Clear and hold implies a 24/7 365 presence of our army in the lucky neighborhoods. That’s the real reason we are trapped 4ever.

On topic: The iraqis have a pension program for government officials that cost only a rope. Liking the Iraqis here.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

@Soddom Done Right

Your childish post @ 9:53 reflects your witless and intellectually inferior disposition. Dim bubbaturds like you desperately resort to tired and redundant posts and phrases in just to pathetically attempt match your conservative betters. Soddom Done Right’s dishonest and childish posts are symptomatic of the marxist vermin that spew bollocks on this blog!!

By BobG

January 17, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Actually, RJ, I am well aware that both Mike Beaudreau, Lorraine Green and Charles Bannister will stand for reelection prior to the effective date of this raise. Nasuti and Kenerly will get the boost for their final two years. Just trying to keep the discussion simple.

Yesterday’s vote was pure, high-powered politics. Bannister opposed the raise despite the fact that he himself has petitioned the state legislature for an increase. The legislature had given county commissions the authority to boost their own pay a couple of years earlier; the Gwinnett state delegation told Bannister to raise his own pay and suffer the consequences, if any.

Lorraine Green, Bannister’s odds-on challenger in 2008, is the author of the raise resolution. Yesterday, Bannister opposed the increase. Beaudreau promptly amended the original motion to eliminate the chairman’s raise ($50K to $99K). In the end, the Commission raised the district comm’s pay but not the chair’s.

So, if Bannister wins reelection in 2008, he’s without his much sought-after pay raise in 2009. If Green wins, her political gamble (by proposing the pay raise in the first place) doesn’t pay off in the end.

Oops!

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

@ 10.16

now we see the real virulent racism of this obsessive anal stalker … knowing that I have so easily wound this twisted leftist skunk up so fabulously easily is indeed ever so slightly gratifying.

By So Boldly Gone Moldy

January 17, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Nobody’s going to click on your virus infected links, so dem.

you must really think people are stupid, man.

what a clod, honestly.

BLOGGING ALERT!! DO NOT CLICK ON ANY LINKS. THEY MAY CONTAIN VIRUSES WHICH WILL DESTROY YOUR NEW HP, daddy-o, and that’s no joke.

I learned the hard way about exploring the links from posters who feel they have no legal liability for destroying other’s personal property. I thought is was a federal crime, but I guess I was wrong.

Try reporting a virus worm email thing. go ahead. see what happens: nada lotta

the lesson from linked viruses: just summarize your link for others in as few words as possible, and if someone challenges your truth responsibly, then you can list your references.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

@ 10.24

now we see the real virulent perversions of this obsessive anal stalker … knowing that I have so easily felt this twisted beaver up so fabulously easily is indeed ever so slightly gratifying.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

The dodgy little anal obsessive leftist wanker @ 10.24 glibly refuses the mere fact that my posts @10.16 and 10.03. Clearly the vapid anal marxist vermin refuses to acknowledge my superior knowledge and debating capablities. Now make like a good leftist rat and slither back into your hole!!

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Why would anyone want to be a politician? Let us count the ways..

That kid you talked to wasn’t crazy — he/she is just a look into our future of the things to come. He was probably looking at you thinking “Why would ANYONE want to become a journalist?!!”

By So Boldly Gone Moldy

January 17, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

t-t-tftt has so much to say, + he’s so earnest in his manifesto-length comments. He really thinks anyone would read his self-flatulating fissure undulations?

tftt, you should know that people are too busy to bother with your unimoron level hate speech. Nobody reads you except yourself, (and then you answer yourself, like a retarded finger-sniff, consumating your own carnal and olfactorial exhumations …)

and I think it’s a damn shame that his mother didn’t teach him to leave his naughty twaughty alone.

bwa t-t-turdboy

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

If nothing else one has to vaguely admire the twisted anal compulsive thoroughness of the anal obsessive stalker … over a period of several months it has obviously expended an enormous effort and countless hours of a truly worthless life to memorising a good number of my phrases and euphemisms and sensibly deployed epithets. Feverishly depleting an already well below average number of what ludicrously passes for brain cells.

They say that mimicry is the highest form of flattery … but in this instance its more a retarded obsessional mental flatulence.

jolly well done indeed … NAMBLA and aborted foreskin must be very proud of you!!

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

To anyone black parent, soldier, wife, etc. The next time a recruiter comes to your door for your child, husband, brother, etc. Refer them to the 10:16 a.m. post that is on this blog.

Why volunteer to fight for a country who has citizens that are so disdainful, hateful, and offensive to you?

By drjay

January 17, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

i suppose its one thing if you are a county commisioner or a school board member—you should be able to do that and keep whatever your full time job is—and clearly “benefits” and part time work are concepts that really do not go together. but for a state legislator who may be a successful or at least gainfully employed member of society, it is often quite difficult to give up 3 months salary every year to go to atlanta and the pay they receive is a reasonable stipend taking that into acct. otherwise you will only have rich dillettantes and retirees in your legislature—and i thought the point of the “citizen legislature” was that it is made up of a cross section of citizens from all walks of life, not just those that can “afford it”

By So Frolics His Colic

January 17, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

From tftt’s mouth to gaudy rears.

Flamboyant, isn’t she?

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

crackpipe debbie

that virulently racist post at 10.16 is written by the anal obsessive stalker as you DAMN WELL KNOW!!

Unsurprisingly I see your intellectual honesty is still stuck in the sullen racebaiting mode.

By RW-(the original)

January 17, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Distractor,

The economic argument you give Jim could work exactly opposite of what you propose.

For instance, I’ve been in Gwinnett for 24 years and have never gone more than 3 without being called for jury duty. Every time I go they show a video on how they make the selections which would indicate I should never be called anywhere near that often. When I inquire they tell me privately that large numbers of people get out citing economic hardship.

The pay is a tiny stipend, but I always show up as I see it as my civic duty while many find ways out of it. If you were to raise the compensation for jurors you would get a much larger pool of unqualified people.

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

I got nothing against no Viet Cong. No Vietnamese ever called me a ni*.”

Muhummad Ali (when asked why he didn’t want to go to Viet Nam)

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

crackpipe black whore Debbie continues with her perpetual bollocks on this blog whilst dishonestly ingnoring the shamelessly and racially corrupt DA Nifong. crackpipe black whore Debbie cowardly refuses to debate her conservative betters after your truly gleefully wound her up a couple of weeks ago and sent her pathetically crying back home. Go on luv, continue spewing your hateful and intellectual dishonest venom!!

By jbmlaw

January 17, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

RJ @ 9:30 intelligently argues the view opposing mine. While I acknowledge his fidelity to Plato’s philosopher-kings structure, I disagree with the fundamental; politics should be a part-time job, with minimal intrusion on the lives the “rabble.” By magnifying the importance of the work of our philosopher-kings, we invite their intrusion. My view is that if you give them anything, even if nothing more than respect, you encourage them; we don’t want to do that. Being a public servant should be desirable as being a draftee in the pre-Volunteer Army.

I think RJ @ 9:55 effectively argues that only bean-counters should be legislators, and I don’t have a huge problem with that; the bean-counters I know waste little money, and imagine few big programs, so that would work. Let’s modify the constitution to require one to be chartered accountant before running for office.

By RW-(the original)

January 17, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

DDA,

Do you think Ali spoke Vietnamese?

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Clearly my anal obsessive stalker @ 10.51 refuses to acknowledge the blindingly obvious fact that I AM A VIRULEN RACIST! Whenver there is a prominent black who dishonestly disagrees with me they are shamelessly racist. On MLK Day (sic) I couldn’t resist the joyous opportunity to lable him as a serial adulterer. And lest we not mention that yours truly constantly and cleverly called crackpipe debbie a black whore! It is indeed gratifying and fabulously satisfying to be such a racist!

By liberal minefield

January 17, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

“I never understood why the lazy, incompetent and unemployable wouldn’t be attracted by higher salaries.”

And there you have government employees at their finest. From the TSA to the USPS. If your work quality is sub-par, you can’t get fired being a part of a union. Many union gubment employees couldn’t hold down a job in the real world, and they know it full well. But don’t tell liberal democrats that as it’s offensive! What’s the incentive to produce more when your co-worker slacks off yet still gets the same compensation as you over the years?

“I don’t want children aspiring to be politicians. I want them to prepare for real jobs and be ready, and employed, when the call comes.”

Well if they can’t get real jobs because they weren’t prepared, no worries according to liberal democrats! There’s always the other aspect of government they can fall back on -> gubment handouts.

By Dusty

January 17, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Hey, cut out the racial stuff, will ya? There’s stinkers and winners in every race. Quit quoting the stinkers!

This is America, remember? I get tired of those here who try to make this blog a cesspool. Strightem up, folks.

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Ahhh… I wonder if Wooten will have time to delete THAT post before I get a chance to send it to blog police. So, I’ll save it just in case……

By Van

January 17, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

RW-(the original),

Interesting, I’ve been in Gwinnett for 22 years and have only been called once for jury duty.

I guess you are in the shallow end of the pool and easier to get to.

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

DDA, Do you think Ali spoke Vietnamese?

Who knows? But I bet if someone called him that in their language he’d understand it. Some things transcend language barriers.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

THIS IS just FREAKING HILARIOUS

marxist lite vermin like redneKKKs NAMBLA and aborted foreskin cannot actually FACTUALLY AND LOGICALLY debate their conservative betters so they endlessly indulge in cowardly obsessional id stealing.

so much for the blatant lie that emptily asserts leftist TOLERANCE and respect for free speech.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

Crusty believes that yours truly is a white stinker! Her/its intellectually dishonest assertion merely ignores the blindingly obvious fact that her witless posts and her hapless religious proslytising has undermined the glorious conservative cause in this country. The Tories back in the UK have cleverly learned that lemmings like you provide nothing but handicap and endless perpetual defeat!

By The Truth Hurts

January 17, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Hey Dusty dude….I don’t think George W. Bush sucks, I just think he is not a very good President. I think he has gotten us in a very costly war, in both monetary and lives, for years and years to come. There is a reason his father, who was a good president, did not overtake Bagdad earlier. He knew what it would entail. Sorry if I am not a good little republican (which I am) and support this president 100%, even when he is wrong. Sounds like it’s time for you to go and enlist - even in the Guard no less - if you feel this strongly. How bad does it have to get for you to rethink and maybe decide that it was not such a good idea to remove a country’s leader and try to convert a country like Iraq, with the religous turmoil they have always had, to a democracy? Sounds like your being a nice little sheep following all the way to the slaughter house.

By time for truth

January 17, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Leftist hypocritical vermin on the blog perpetually display their utter disdain for anyone who shares different and at many times intellectually superior opinions…even if they are usually racist like mine. This bollocks that leftist vermin like foreskin, NAMBLA, and Soddom Done Right shows the blindingly obvious intolerance and obtuseness of their side!

By Dusty

January 17, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Time for Truth & Truth Hurts,

What is your problem? I didn’t call any names here. But…”if the shoes fits, wear it.”

and “Hurts”, That old ploy about signing up, recruiting, etc. is so stale and overused I’m surprised you even presented it AGAIN. Try a little originality with your inselts. Makes them more interesting. They’re pretty dull right now.

By Jim's a Distractor

January 17, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

RW,

I see your point, but theoretically we’re all qualified to be jurors.

My point had more to do with pure statistics than actual results. If you provide a greater incentive for people to behave in a certain way, statistically you increase your odds of getting your desired result. There aren’t any guarantees though, and poor perfomers will always be in the mix…just like in corporate America. HR offices spend a lot of money each year attempting to control the quality of their new-hires, but none of them would say that they’re 100 percent accurate.

I think Jim’s whole point is moot though…nobody is going to do a job like county commissioner for free - it’s too demanding and too important. But you can increase your odds of having a quality offering by providing some compensation. I think this idea works better with a career civil servant(e.g., a teacher or soldier) than an elected servant like a county commissioner or sheriff though. After all, Cynthia McKinney was an elected official, and I don’t think she could hold a real job. She was a politician, not a civil servant.

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Dusty’s allright. She’s cool. Her beliefs are her own and she’ll fight to uphold them.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

crackpipe black whore debbie and lemming crusty have formed a rather unholy albeit farcical alliance. It brings endless joy and glee to so easily and effortlessly wind up these two trolls. The Black Whore and the Zealot…what a great trashy pulp novel would that be!

By Dusty

January 17, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

time for truth,

Hey, I’ve never been called Zealotbefore. How about that? I have to confess that I am a zealot for shopping. Heading to the grocery store in a few minutes. So take care of things while I’m gone, Truthie, and stay sweet. Yeah!!

By Dr.Doom

January 17, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

time for the truth,

It seems you may need a little help my friend. I am an anticrackwhore specialist. Nothing thrills me more than to dismantle the hearts and minds of mental degenerates such as DebbieGoDown.

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Two things that shows Dusty has more class than the thing from the English Lagoon:

She doesn’t resort to calling people racial epithets because she doesn’t agree with them.

She knows how to correctly spell “Proselytizing”.

By The Truth Hurts

January 17, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Dusty dude - you talk about a term being stale and overused and to try a little originality and you use the phrase cut’nrun? It don’t get no more overused and nonoriginal than that. And where did you get an insult from the post back to you? If someone disagrees with you, do you always consider that an insult toward you? sheesh.

By Darth Vader

January 17, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

Looks like TFTT has a new lover.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

crackpipe debbie

it seems we have at least one thing in common - we have both been innocent victims of the twisted anal stalker.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

@ crackpipe black whore debbie

It’s called the ENGLISH language love. In the ENGLISH language it’s rightfully spelled “proslytising” and not “proslytizing” as spelled in the backwater bastard patois of American English. But I must say that I am indeed surprised at your rather menial ortographical skills.

@ Zealot Crusty

It’s time for THE truth love. Please do your countrymen a great service not to purchase to many Moon Pies at the grocery.

All of the collective bleating indeed displays the ease at which I wind up our resident vermin!

By Darth Vader

January 17, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

TFTT,

I thought you liked having your anal stalked. Not enough vaseline,huh?

By Dennis

January 17, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Some good comments by RJ @9:25.

Thanks to Southern Democrat for the link to Cheney. I hope some/all of you checked it out. Not only is it evidence of a flip-flop on the part of our oil barron, Cheney, but by implication further evidence that our present war was a cooked up affair long before GWB ever came into office.

By degree @9:23 said; Politicians are raised, groomed and selected for consumption by the party operatives.

True. The “party operatives” pay lots of money in order to get from government what they otherwise can not get on their own. If the working poor get equal treatment that’s called “entitlements”.

By th south ga January 17, 2007 10:00 AM | The difference between a public servant and a politician is not the compensation. The difference is the attitude and the agenda… or lack of one.

“The agenda”. I’ve stated before and will again, if the past six years of Republican leadership has taught us anything (if we’re listening) it is just how corrupt our government is.

NOT that the Democrats are any better and, after shallow promises of doing better, have watered down their own ethics legislation with “exceptions” to favor certain lobby groups.

By @@RW@@ January 17, 2007 09:45 AM |Our elected officials deserve only what pension our democracy can afford.

Oh, that we ALL could have the same health benefits that our “public servants” (HA!) in Washington get. I guess that would be called “equality of entitlements”.

But that would bankrupt the country and cause our tax to go up.

Better that we bankrupt the country with a contrived war instead. (Read Cheney’s comments. Source cited above).

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Jesus H. Christ!!!….the anal leftist stalker perpetually resorts to his childish and borish id stealing @ 12.19!! Marxist vermin wankers like our resident id stealers foreskin and NAMBLA utterly refuse to engage in mature political debate and resort to such immature tactics. It is truly a GLORIOUS VICTORY to attract such FLATTERING mimicry and imitation!!

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Darth Wanker shamelessly and desperately cries out for attention from his conservative betters. Its perpetual anal homo bleating has become very common behaviour among his lowly leftist comrades. The real Darth Vader wears black…must be a BLACK thing??

By RW-(the original)

January 17, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

Van,

The last time they got my wife and I on back to back weeks. I’ll be happy to tell them you fell left out next time. :-)

Distractor,

I think that you would have to raise the compensation way up to have it result of top quality people making the decision to take on that responsibility and sacrifice time from their earning opportunities, but I see your point. It’s really on us to pay attention to what we are voting for and make sure it’s not snake oil.

By The Truth Hurts

January 17, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

What’s up with this Truth guy? The man needs some help.

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

It’s like watching Sybil. You never know which personality is going to come out next……

By Markus

January 17, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Homeless bums being sued by NY Upper East side arts dealer. LMAO!! How long will it be before the ACLPEW comes to the aid of these pathetic bums?

“For more than two years, the papers allege, the homeless have spent “significant amounts of time” obstructing Karl Kemp’s storefront window display, “consuming alcoholic beverages from open bottles,”

Yup, and as I’ve stated for years now, being homeless is not a causal effect of society; it’s a lifestyle choice. Booze and cardboard over coffee and job searching. Put ‘em to work picking up garbage.

http://www.nysun.com/article/46814

By Dr.Doom

January 17, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

time for the truth: These homos aren’t ready for your brilliant literary work. ID wankers live in the closet of their bestial natures until they smell food and begin crawling out of their caves to graze.

By Time4theNoose

January 17, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Going off halfcocked again, time4daTurd?

From Time4daTurd’s lips to gauzed rears……..ew!

The exploratory potential of tftt’s tongue up someone’s unsunned buns: his fecal palette unfettered in his own search for the perfect species of feces. What a tantalizing tidbit: he only finds pieces of himself and no one can touch him, (no one wants to)

In prison, Time4daTurd learned how to toss salads. His problem is that he only played with cellmates who were masters of the Salad Shooter…..ew!

By deegee

January 17, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

The party operatives collect alot of money from wealthy contributors and spend or save it depending on the circumstances. Entitlements are for everybody, not just the working poor. If entitlements were some sort of equalizing mechanism then the working poor wouldn’t be poor. So far I am impressed by the changing of the guard, see below

100 HOUR SCORECARD FUND STEM CELL RESEARCH Passed 253-174 VOTE RESULTS House approves funding for stem cell research. Your Vote Count: 13,126 messages - SUPPORTED (54%) - OPPOSED (46%)

PAY AS YOU GO RULES Passed 232-200 VOTE RESULTS House requires spending cuts or tax hikes to offset any new spending or tax cuts. Your Vote Count: 9785 messages - SUPPORTED (74%) - OPPOSED (26%)

ETHICS OF CONGRESS Passed 232-200 VOTE RESULTS House bans gifts from lobbyists and requires full disclosure of earmarks. Your Vote Count: 19,112 messages - SUPPORTED (92%) - OPPOSED (8%)

MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE Passed 315-116 VOTE RESULTS House votes to increase it to $7.25 an hour. Your Vote Count: 18,112 messages - SUPPORTED (65%) - OPPOSED (35%)

9/11 COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS Passed 299-128 VOTE RESULTS House approves implementing the 9/11 Commission security proposals. Your Vote Count: 10,037 messages - SUPPORTED (84%) - OPPOSED (16%)

By Markus

January 17, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Last year all hell broke loose in the media when oil prices shot through the roof. It had nothing to do with four hurricanes, stringent new EPA forumlations, and rapid increased global consumption. No, it was Bush manipulating oil prices to line his pockets and those of his buddies like Cheney.

This year prices continue to drop, now at a 20-month low, and not a PEEP from the whineyassed liberal media like PMSNBC and CNN and the Washington comPost. NOT A PEEP. So, it has nothing to do with a mild winter, higher than expected inventories, and no hurricanes last year. No, this time around I’m sure it’s because the Pelosicommie RAT pack is in charge of Congress and bullying “Big Oil” around and telling them to lower their prices. Yeah, that’s what it is. Sick liberals.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=businessNews&storyid=2007-01-17T132654Z01SYD239383RTRUKOC0_US-MARKETS-OIL.xml&src=rss&rpc=23

By Markus

January 17, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Captured on film! A pic of our resident liberal demoncat neoStalinist ID jacker!

Someone needs to squash it like a bug.

By ICEMAN

January 17, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Nice shot Markus!

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Soddom’s Noose proffers about tossing salads and the typical leftist homo anal bile whilst crackpipe black whore debbie continues with her perpetually intellectually dishonest bleating. Obviously these leftist vermin have a good friend in crackpipe black whore debbie for their tossing needs. The best part of this fabulous bargain is that all you need is the obligatory $10 in crack rock for her to complete the arduous task!!! GEDDIT???

By Markus

January 17, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

Can someone please ‘splain to me why neoStalinist liberal demoncats have to infest Conservative blogs like sewer RATs? I’m not just referring to this one in particular. It just amazes me how these asspirates on the left attempt to control blogs that aren’t even theirs. Disgusting worthless filth.

By ICEMAN

January 17, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama will deliver America and the World from its woes. We need someone fresh and not as experienced in telling lies to the American people to lead us out of the madness called Iraq!!

By HAHAHA

January 17, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

it seems we have at least one thing in common - we have both been innocent victims of the twisted anal stalker.

ROTFLMAO!! TFTT..innocenet of any past abuse?? LMFAO!!!!

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 01:06 PM | Link to this

The best thing to do with the sicko resident anal stalker is let Dick Cheney use it as shooting target or stick it in DUI killer Kennedy’s car boot for a long drive around Chappaquiddick or dump it woth heavily waxed skis on the same ski-run as Sonny Bono or force feed it to Bwarney Fwank for a filthy homo weekend in Assachussetts!!

By Dr.Doom

January 17, 2007 01:06 PM | Link to this

HAHAHA: That was not TFTT who said that you lifeless virus! Time for the truth has been unfairly attacked on these blogs and its about time you Stalinist Bonapartes stopped it!!!

By getalife

January 17, 2007 01:13 PM | Link to this

Charles Bannister is a good man doing a good job.

Gwinnett County should reelect this man.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 01:13 PM | Link to this

Looks like in the disgusting indefensible legal lynching of Libby the defence is slowly weeding the leftist scum of the earth from the jury.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/17/D8MN3S780.html

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 01:14 PM | Link to this

Looks like in the disgusting indefensible legal lynching of Libby the defence is slowly weeding out the leftist scum of the earth from the jury.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/17/D8MN3S780.html

By getalife

January 17, 2007 01:29 PM | Link to this

w screws with the legal system

Geez.

Sigh.

By getalife

January 17, 2007 01:41 PM | Link to this

“At any time within the next few days, the Iraqi Council of Ministers is expected to approve a new “hydrocarbon law” essentially drawn up by the Bush Administration and its U.K. lackey. The new bill will “radically redraw the Iraqi oil industry and throw open the doors to the third-largest oil reserves in the world,” say the paper, whose reporters have seen a draft of the new law. “It would allow the first large-scale operation of foreign oil companies in the country since the industry was nationalized in 1972.” If the government’s parliamentary majority prevails, the law should take effect in March. As the paper notes, the law will give Exxon, BP, Shell and other Bush cronies sweetheart deals, allowing them to pump gargantuan profits from Iraq’s nominally state-owned oilfields for decades to come.”

This is what they are dying for.

Sigh.

By Curious Observer

January 17, 2007 01:46 PM | Link to this

The notion that politicians run for office in order to enhance their incomes is ludicrous. They run for the power and influence offices hold. And usually that influence comes in the form of the ability to bend laws and codes to suit their own situations. City won’t let you house your five daughters and their families in the same residence? Run for city council and work on changing the code. Bought a piece of land that could be valuable if the county makes the right decision about transportation and zoning? Tranfer ownership of the land to a trusted relative, then run for county commission in order to influence decisions about the land.

Need a little nest egg for approaching retirement? Use your influence as mayor to get approval for building that assisted living facility in the middle of a residential area, then collect “campaign contributions” from the developer and the owner.

These aren’t imaginary scenarios. They happened in my neck of the woods.

The point is that the big money doesn’t come from the salaries paid to office-holding politicos. While you’re worried about someone’s getting his hand in your pockets or while you’re reviving your grudge against government, you ought to be concerned that someone is stripping your pants off you.

By Buy Danish

January 17, 2007 01:52 PM | Link to this

By The Truth Hurts January 17, 2007 09:14 AM I agree 100% with Mr. Wooten. When you have people who, early in life, aspire to be politicians (because they know they probably can’t be successful at anything else) you end up with a person like George W. Bush as President.

The “Truth” Hurts,

I beg to differ. Bill Clinton and John Kerry aspired to “political” careers very early on in their lives, and this lust for politics informed everything they did.

That’s a fact, Jack.

By Dennis

January 17, 2007 02:03 PM | Link to this

getalife at 1:41 stated, in regard to the forthcoming oil contracts in Iraq, rigged to favor big oil stated, “This is what they are dying for.”

Not that they weren’t told, but only the die-hard, right-wing conservatives would now deny this.

YET (ahem!)WE DO NOT SEE “IN PRINT” “ANY ADMISSION” THAT THE PROTESTORS WERE CORRECT.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Out of their vulkin minds

January 17, 2007 02:07 PM | Link to this

I’ve got a swell idea! Let’s invent an earth time machine. Then let’s go back to February of 2003 right before the Iraq invasion and show all those “lies” to Bushie & Co and the aftermath. That’s sure to show him!

Then let’s fast forward to 2009. Then let’s watch as the entire Middle East including Saddam’s Iraq erupts into nuclear war as Iran lobs nukes at Israel and Israel retaliates bigtime. Then let’s watch the global economy fall to pieces and launch a new International Great Depression, because Middle East oil has been cut off. No fuel. No cargo air flights. No cargo ships. No trains. Then let’s watch Americans and others suffer from starvation and disease because there is a severe hindrance in transportation of necessities like food and medicine. Let’s watch Americans in cities freeze to death because there is no heating oil. Then let’s watch crops shrivel and die because there’s no petro to run the harvesting, cropdusting, and processing machines.

Then let’s watch companies shut down because employees can’t get to work because there is no gas at the gas pumps. Let’s watch companies close because energy costs became too high. Then let’s watch those lib city slickers rot who never learned to live off the land with skills like hunting & fishing and growing vegetables. Yeah buddy, that’s the route we should have taken. Who’s in with me?

By Brian

January 17, 2007 02:13 PM | Link to this

I beg to differ. Bill Clinton and John Kerry aspired to “political” careers very early on in their lives, and this lust for politics informed everything they did. That’s a fact, Jack.

Don’t forget about Al Gore and Teddy Kennedy, Buy Danish!

By jbmlaw

January 17, 2007 02:13 PM | Link to this

Dear Dennis @ 2:03, get the aluminum hats, the black helicopters just left getalife and are headed for you.

By Out of your vulkin mind

January 17, 2007 02:25 PM | Link to this

so, out of @2:07, you think that none of the things you predicted will happen because Dubya invaded Iraq in 2003? The Middle East is a mess and will continue to be a mess no matter what the outcome is in Iraq. The problems are Syria, Iran, Hezbollah and the intense hatred of Israel. Iran isn’t going to go away just because we invaded Iraq. And we don’t have to show the Bushies the lies. They made them up.

By getalife

January 17, 2007 02:29 PM | Link to this

Dennis,

This should be investigated then class action lawsuits filed against big oil for the troops deaths and injuries. Pain and suffering for their families and global warming too.

By jbmlaw

January 17, 2007 02:33 PM | Link to this

Quote of the day: “(H)ave you noticed that those who call for “sacrifice” never applaud such hardships as have been imposed on all of us as a result of the war on terror—such as increasingly burdensome airport security? More often they complain about imagined hardships, such as all the civil liberties they claim we’ve lost. And there is something un-American about the idea of lauding “sacrifice” for its own sake. The ideology for which we are fighting is, after all, an ideology of freedom. It’s hard to see how anyone would be better off if 18-year-olds were conscripted into make-work government jobs rather than left alone to pursue their own dreams and ambitions. If the draft—or higher taxes, or rationing, or other such wartime hardships—is necessary, then so be it. But anyone who demands to see such things as proof of seriousness is not serious himself. James Taranto, http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110009537

By Buy Danish

January 17, 2007 02:50 PM | Link to this

Brian,

Al Gore and Ted Kennedy were raised in political families as was Bush.

Where Kerry and Clinton were unique was in their lust for politics. It was not driven by tradition, but by their own desires and egos.

By Dennis

January 17, 2007 02:52 PM | Link to this

By jbmlaw January 17, 2007 02:13 PM | Dear Dennis @ 2:03, get the aluminum hats, the black helicopters just left getalife and are headed for you.

Be informed that the government already has my photo(s) and fingerprints are WELCOME to both.

I would rather be a thorn in my governments side than to sit back and count my money while the blood flows from the bodies of the soldiers who died so that I could have it.

This war was a sham from the get go and the “thinking right”(?) knows it, but aren’t going to admit it.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By getalife

January 17, 2007 03:01 PM | Link to this

Dennis,

Wingnuts never admit they are wrong.

They should be screaming for cheney and w to resign because they are killing their party and our country to get oil contracts in Iraq.

They are failed Americans.

Just so freaking pathetic.

By Dennis

January 17, 2007 03:03 PM | Link to this

By getalife January 17, 2007 02:29 PM | Dennis,This should be investigated then class action lawsuits filed against big oil for the troops deaths and injuries. Pain and suffering for their families and global warming too.

Wouldn’t you like to think so. But, that’s not going to happen. It’s too big and would take so much of the resources of the government to prosecute that nothing else in government would get done.

As the big corporations and their executives know it.

As it is, when government does win any cases against big oil, some politically appointed judge comes along and negates the fine.

Or, better yet, some lobby comes along and gets a congressman to introduce legislation that will retroactively reduce the fines.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By edge770

January 17, 2007 03:05 PM | Link to this

Knowing the problems and pitfalls of “constituent services” it does take a lot to take calls, meet people, call up the calvary etc. Especially when taking lives away. People demand instant service, email connectivity and the like. First a few changes are in order COmmission meetings atleast one Saturday a month County provided laptop during term of service. A administrative assistant along with County Clerk for commissioner assistance. Develop efficient and effective communications devices that allow flexibility and communications. COnsidering Fulton commission meetings are almost a day long affair, and meetings with ARC etc. I can see a salary come in to play for larger counties. But, a county manager is that, let them manage.

By Dennis

January 17, 2007 03:14 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw said, “And there is something un-American about the idea of lauding “sacrifice” for its own sake.”

Only an airhead would think this statement has any substance.

There is nothing laudatory about sacrifice for its own sake, nor is it possible to occur. Who wants to pay a price just for the sake of paying a price? There’s either a return or there isn’t.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By jbmlaw

January 17, 2007 03:19 PM | Link to this

Dear Dennis @ 2:52, the world-wide victims of the Islamist terrorists appreciate your support.

By jbmlaw

January 17, 2007 03:24 PM | Link to this

Dear Dennis @ 3:14, you comically misread the quote: “There is something un-American about the idea of lauding “sacrifice” for its own sake.” You powerfully agree with my post, affirming that there is nothing laudatory about sacrifice for its own sake… You will be sorely disappointed when you learn who are the airhead advocating “sacrifice for its own sake.” I posted the link mostly for amusement of my conservative friends, but if it educates a couple of leftists also, so be it.

By JBM is a condescending...

January 17, 2007 03:37 PM | Link to this

I understand Daniel Ortega and Hugo Chavez, a couple of “leftist” from SA were educated by jbmlaw’s “amusing, little” link.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 03:41 PM | Link to this

dimwit Dennis has made a feabile attempt maggot brain’s failed sense of humour. These leftist vermin along with their pathetic counterpart crackpipe black whore debbie glibly proffer their puerile hatred of Bush and their conservative betters. Their treasonous habits and dialogue only serve to deliver the West into the hands of mohammedans. All praises to Bush for defeating the gigolo swift boat sKerry in 2004!!

By jbmlaw

January 17, 2007 03:45 PM | Link to this

Dear “JBM is a con” @ 3:37, I don’t deny my international fan base. I’m ready for my close-up Mr. DeMille.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

January 17, 2007 03:51 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

What’s wrong with the classic Rockwell-esque image of the school boy/girl wanting to grow up to become President?

Seems that conservatives want to simultaneously villify those with ambition and those without…as it suits the cause.

If I’m not mistaken, the likes of Ralph Reed and Newt “Bulbous Head” Gingrich are lusty ego-driven politicians as well.

By Dennis

January 17, 2007 03:53 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, I will give myself permission to repeat something I posted to you a few days ago just incase you missed it. “It is not my intention to argue on this site. I will post my opinions and you can agree or disagree. However, this once, I will break my rule; if there is anyone on here whose verbosity is not limited to exaggertion, you get the blue ribbon.”

The person you quoted questions what liberties I have lost. I’ll be happy to tell you.

Under the so-called “Patriot Acts” I am presumed guilty until proven innocent.

And that is loss enough.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 03:53 PM | Link to this

i am soooo glad you keep posting your vile racist, race baiting, bigoted garbage. i’ve already turned you in to the blog police, (with a saved snapshot of your garbage just in case Wooten tries to clean it up and keep you d#ckheads on the blog). you just make my job soooo much easier!! keep posting!!! may all these other bigots post with you, the more i can knock off at one time the better!!! :) Another Saved Snap Shot!!

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 04:10 PM | Link to this

…and the vile lefitst vermin come crawling out of the woods! Damn love…you make it extremely easy to so effortlessly wind you up. Your emptly threats show nothing besides the fact that the inherently weak arguments that you proffer FAIL miserably in the circle of debate on this forum. Gleefully niggling marxist vermin like you all day long and then you threatening to play the boorish race card indeed makes for a fabulously entertaining day!!

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 04:18 PM | Link to this

Another Saved Snap Shot!! :)

By RW, The Original Parrot

January 17, 2007 04:31 PM | Link to this

won’t someone smooth my feathers?

I’ve mimicked Rush and Hannity like a good little boy.

Please?

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 04:37 PM | Link to this

…get your camera ready…C-R-A-C-K-P-I-P-E-B-L-A-C-K-W-H-O-R-E-D-E-B-B-I-E!!!

Did you get that?

crackpipe black whore debbie’s sullen race baiting has taken a whole new dimension. Whilst some remain intimidated and scamper away with their tales between their legs in the face of boorish and empty racial threats I take more of a saluatory approach to racebaiting leftist vermin.

Jolly well done on taking racebaiting to a sullen new low Crackpipe Black Whore Debbie…jolly well done indeed!!!

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 04:39 PM | Link to this

Watching the VT bound leftist child molesting filth obsessively and orgasmically spewing to its lonely inadequate self is almost as much fun as watching the alBore’s and Kerry’s embittered concession speeches after being deservedly beaten by G W Bush!!

By Southern Democrat

January 17, 2007 04:41 PM | Link to this

Jbmlaw @ 2:33,

I respectfully disagree with your stance regarding sacrifice. If I sound like a broken record (because I feel like I have feebly tried to make this point before), feel free to ignore my post.

Taranto (as most editorial writers do) attempts to take a stance in contradiction of traditional adversaries rather than upon true reflection.

I think we all agree that the War on Terror will be a protracted, lengthy campaign with flashpoints and numerous battles. To win such a war requires tremendous focus and marshaling of resources, i.e., sacrifice. Our country was poised and ready to do whatever it took to prevent another 9/11 in 2001 and our leadership wisely, quickly, and decisively identified the threat of a Taliban-led Afghanistan. Where we erred is in the message delivered to the American people.

A few striking images in my mind: persons lined up at Red Cross centers across the country ready to bleed for America and then told by the president to “continue to lead your normal lives.” NATO invoking its Defense Charter for the first time, only to be told its services weren’t necessary. This was a grave mistake in my opinion. If you’re sucker-punched, even if you’re the biggest kid on the block, there’s no harm in saying, “Watch my back while I find who did this.”

Pick a cliche: skin in the game, dog in the fight, etc., but human beings think much more judiciously and cautiously when they are engaged. I am sure that you and Mrs. Jbmlaw are intrigued by the deployment of another carrier group into the Red Sea as a deterrent to Iran and wonder how this will affect your son. When we are led by persons with no combat experience and with no “skin in the game,” we suffer as a country.

Sadly, 2002-present was not the time to grant tax breaks, expand our federal bureaucracy, allow the dollar to be hijacked by massive Chinese reserves, and attempt to streamline the military while fighting a war of occupation. It was a time to batten down the hatches, trim the fat, and rally support under the banner of sacrifice. The only things we have sacrificed, however, have been a few dollars at the pump while oil companies enjoy record revenues (bolstered by the Interior Dept.’s blunders) and civil liberties while our leadership uses fear tactics to divide us rather than unite us.

I guess, in sum, that has been what has most frustrated me about this administration… until recently, I do not think they thought I deserved an explanation for their actions and their continuous missteps. As eros felled Bill, hubris shall be George’s undoing.

By Time4theNoose

January 17, 2007 04:49 PM | Link to this

Exposing a sociopath is so easy.

(o)

His fingers are so busy today, tftt likes to play.

(now watch)

By Buy Danish

January 17, 2007 04:53 PM | Link to this

Jim’s a CP,

Some people are motivated to serve the country, others are motivated to serve their own egos.

By time for the truth

January 17, 2007 05:08 PM | Link to this

Soddom’s Noose…shouldn’t you and your crackpipe black whore debbie be tossing each other in consensual and orgasmic bliss? Nutters like you NAMBLA and foreskin make my job so joyfully easy. The resident leftist vermin witlessly post such childish icons whilst their conservative betters crush them intellectually with factual points. Marxist rats as such are nothing but fodder on this blog. Now back to tossing you two!!

By Dennis

January 17, 2007 05:12 PM | Link to this

Southern Democrat said, “I think we all agree that the War on Terror will be a protracted, lengthy campaign with flashpoints and numerous battles. To win such a war requires tremendous focus and marshaling of resources, i.e., sacrifice.”

More and more, Americans are beginning to see that inspite of the rhetoric otherwise, there is no plan or intention of getting out of the middle-east.

THAT WAS THE INTENT FROM THE BEGINNING.

Watch and see.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By DebbieDoRight

January 17, 2007 05:17 PM | Link to this

Like shooting fish in a bucket….

Another Saved Snap Shot!! :)

By Buy Danish

January 17, 2007 05:25 PM | Link to this

Dennis,

A one word response to your theory: Why?

The long response - You’ll have to explain WHY George Bush went to the Middle East, particularly Iraq, when he could have just done nothing other than lauch a few missiles at a few tents, and reaped the benefits of a great economy while the Republicans enjoyed the coat tail effect and retained power while risking nothing (like his predecessor).

By Dusty

January 17, 2007 05:36 PM | Link to this

Southern Democrat,

Would you mind stop saying our troops are are fighting a war of occupation? That is about as low as you can get describing our military and our policies.

Our troops want to get home as quickly as possible. The President wants them home. Americans want them home. NOBODY wants to occupy Iraq. You are simply echoing what our enemies say. Stop undermining our efforts against terrorism with pernicious propaganda.

By Markus

January 17, 2007 05:37 PM | Link to this

Once again the 9th Circus Court of Appeals out of San Freaksicko Pelosivich’s land shows their jackass. This time, it’s about dropping on of the felony charges of the islamogoon terrorist who was going to blow up LAX via entering the US through Vancouver.

So what’s the deal? The felony charge was droppped… and get this… because the felony of lying on a US Customs form about the very existence of said explosives could not be tied to the felony itself. Only the sick, twisted, warped disease of liberalism can someone see this. These people are pathetic. This bastard should have been shot long ago, let alone have a freaking CHARGE dropped. Sickass liberals.

*”The court said it ordered the conviction reversed because the jury was not informed about the charge’s link to the underlying crime.

The government must demonstrate that the explosives aided the commission of the underlying felony in some way,” Judge Pamela Ann Rymer wrote for a split three-judge panel. “There is no evidence that the explosives emboldened Ressam to lie or that he used them to ‘protect himself or intimidate others.”’*

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070116/usnm/usacrimemillenniumdc_2

By Markus

January 17, 2007 05:46 PM | Link to this

More sickness of liberalism. This time at Newsweek. This p** little bedwetter calls the 24 nuclear bomb episode a “neocon sex dream” full of “paranoia.”

As I said, candyassed limpwristed flaming liberals don’t think islamofascism is a real threat. Sickass liberals.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16584416/site/newsweek/

By getalife

January 17, 2007 05:47 PM | Link to this

“The Justice Department, easing a Bush administration policy, said today it has decided to give an independent body authority to monitor the government’s controversial domestic spying program.”

w has decided to stop breaking the law.

Geez.

By Markus

January 17, 2007 05:49 PM | Link to this

WARNING: I will now be stroking myself for everyone to see for the remainder of the time that this blog is open. Please wear protective eyewear as bs http links and fast flying fluids are highly likely.

By Markus

January 17, 2007 05:57 PM | Link to this

Jacked! Once again the sickness of liberalism rears it’s ugly head on this blog. That’s right folks… the sonofab!tch jacking people’s IDs on this blog is a liberal demoncat. This is the mentality of those who want to run this nation. I keep hoping this particular individual will die in a violent car accident, but we so far haven’t been so lucky.

By Markus

January 17, 2007 06:00 PM | Link to this

Oh hey resident schizoid drugged out hippy POS liberal ID jacker- you don’t own this blog fluckstick. I may just have to be around more often to pin your liberal RAT ears back more often. Filthy RAT.

By Dennis

January 17, 2007 06:11 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish, “Why”?

Oil, oil, oil.

The history of which, goes all the way back to the British empire.

Have you ever asked youself why the towers in N.Y. were hit not once, but twice?, Why wasn’t some other easier target destroyed? Say a major league game in a dome somewhere?

It is/was because those towers represent to the middle east the “heavy hand” of capitalism.

Dusty said, to Southern Democrat, “Would you mind stop saying our troops are are fighting a war of occupation? That is about as low as you can get describing our military and our policies.

“Our troops want to get home as quickly as possible.”

I do not speak for SD, however in no way is SD’s remarks against our military.

SD pointed to a worthy quote from Cheney about the first gulf war:

“If you’re going to go in and try to topple Saddam Hussein, you have to go to Baghdad. Once you’ve got Baghdad, it’s not clear what you do with it. It’s not clear what kind of government you would put in place of the one that’s currently there now. Is it going to be a Shia regime, a Sunni regime or a Kurdish regime? Or one that tilts toward the Baathists, or one that tilts toward the Islamic fundamentalists? How much credibility is that government going to have if it’s set up by the United States military when it’s there? How long does the United States military have to stay to protect the people that sign on for that government, and what happens to it once we leave?”

We can’t leave. The U.S. setup “Iraqi” government had no credibility. Hence their current ‘civil war’.

I’m on the side of our troops. But, if Bush had ever intended to get out of the middle east, he could have done it as soon as Saddam was toppled. Most of Saddams’ henchmen were nowhere without him. Saddam held the strings to the country.

He didn’t get out. THERE NEVER WAS AND IS, NO INTENTION OF GETTING OUT.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Buy Danish

January 17, 2007 06:30 PM | Link to this

Dennis,

I knew you’d say that, along with the rest of your moonbat theories.

This history of oil in the Middle East also goes back to when it was discovered and suddenly enriched a bunch of very unenlightened tribal people who are still unenlightened, but have a lot of money to use to try and make us like them, which is not anything like our Founders had in mind for us.

By Dana

January 18, 2007 08:29 AM | Link to this

Before this gets pulled for today’s blog - let me say BRAVO Jim! I agree with you completely on this one! Never thought that was going to happen, but you hit on my favorite soapbox topic. Political representatives were never intended to be “career”. Our representatives should be members of the community who take time from their lives to represent and serve the community from which they come - not the mindless polished idiots we have now who no more understand what it’s like to be a citizen of Atlanta, Cobb County, Georgia or any normal community in the US. Our representatives have never lived the lives we are living.

:-) and now I should read the rest of the posts - see what you all have been up to while I was away!

By Southern Democrat

January 18, 2007 08:33 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Your response made me chuckle because it shows how far we all have to go until we can understand one another. Sometimes I feel like we’re not even speaking the same language!

Clearly, I was in no way disparaging the troops by calling our role in Iraq a “war of occupation.” Perhaps you are unfamiliar with UN Sec. Council Resolution 1483 where the U.S. and U.K. asked for and received recognition that they were occupying forces in Iraq???