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Let’s drink to FEMA, but not on Sunday

Thinking Right’s free-for-all Friday. Pick a topic:

• For the umpteenth time, this headline: “Audit: Katrina aid squandered.” So who do we blame? Frantic talking heads whose commentary insisted that FEMA and other agencies were uncaring because they weren’t shoveling taxpayer money out fast enough? Compassionate conservatives? Haste and oversight don’t go together.

• Sell booze on Sunday? This is a prime example of one of the General Assembly’s faults, no matter which party is in power. The agenda is set by interest groups — in this case convenience stores and other retailers. Trust State Rep. Mark Burkhalter (R-Alpharetta) on this one: “I have not seen any groundswell of movement for Sunday sales. … ” Everything politicians know large numbers of voters don’t want — higher taxes, higher per diem and Sunday liquor sales, for example — come in months after an election. The thinking is we’ll get over it.

Anyway, people who can’t anticipate on Saturday a desire for booze on Sunday shouldn’t be drinking. They’re at or near alcoholism.

• Legislators now will pocket $173 in hotel and meal money — those who live within 50 miles pay taxes on it; others don’t — but Public Service Commissioner Doug Everett of Albany, who’s required to live in his South Georgia district while his office is in Atlanta, is denied any expense money. T’ain’t right.

• Whatever happened to … the baby panda. Or Seeger’s restaurant, about which Atlanta is said to have “grieved” upon hearing that it might close. It did. But what do you expect when your top-rated PR guy goes to panda promotion?

• Wise of the state Department of Transportation to rethink the decision to remove nearly 500 small communities from its 2007 highway map. Saves me from having to hoard the old ones. Hillsboro, James, Shellman Bluff. I’ve driven out of my way just to pass through many of those small towns.

• Iran hosted 67 Holocaust deniers from around the world this week. And this is the regime the Iraqi Surrender Group thinks can or will help in Iraq.

• Either MARTA’s train ridership is up. Or its ridership is paying. Either is welcomed news. New no-jump electronic gates have been installed at all 38 stations.

• If I’m the appellate court judge, I overturn the conviction, if it comes, of two young men accused of brutalizing and killing a puppy. The trial judge, over defense objections, allowed a live puppy to be used in the courtroom for demonstration purposes. The defense objected, arguing that it would prejudice the jury. Agreed. Props, not puppies. Prejudicial.

• Tough call. Would I rather have US Airways or Donald Trump in Atlanta?

• Amazing how often a piece of ground is assigned human attributes. The humans who occupied Gwinnett 16 years ago rejected MARTA. What does that tell us about the humans who occupy Gwinnett today? Nothing.

• This is the enemy: Teachers in Afghanistan, under Taliban rules, get three strikes. They’re first warned not to teach. If they continue to teach, they are beaten, and then killed, as two were Saturday. In Gaza gunmen, believed to be Hamas, ambushed and murdered the three young sons of a Palestinian security officer. The children were 3, 6 and 9. We show weakness or lack of resolve in this corner of the world at our peril.

• It may be hard for legislators to oppose, but no constitutional amendment is needed to “protect” HOPE scholarships. In fact, the fund shouldn’t build up excess revenues, lest the Board of Regents be tempted to raise tuition to suck it up.

• Scandal-plagued Republicans step down from Congress. Ney, Ohio. DeLay, Texas. Foley, Florida. Democrat U.S. Rep. William Jefferson of New Orleans not only doesn’t, but is re-elected with 58 percent of the vote.

• When my band of right-wingers take over, it’ll be made a crime to write about possible gubernatorial and presidential candidates in the next general election cycle until the results are final from the current one. And reporters and commentators are allowed in that two-year period to mention non-nominated candidates no more than 100 times. Them’s the rules. Write ‘em down.

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By Curious Observer

December 15, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

Amen. My religion is against drinking alcohol on Sunday, but not on other days of the week. That’s because God swore off booze on the seventh day after creation. He took a look at what He had done while drunk and decided no more hooch.

And I’m going to make sure you respect my religion. I don’t care if yours is different. You are not going to buy booze on Sunday while I’m in church repenting of my drunken sins during the week.

But, of course, it has nothing to do with religion. We all know that. Why, it’s—it’s—it’s—tradition, we all know that. Or call it custom. I don’t care whether just about every other state allows Sunday alcohol sales. Those states probably worship a different God—er, tradition.

I’m certainly glad government isn’t intruding in our personal lives here.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

December 15, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

The Sunday no-liquor laws are due to the thinly veiled anti-Popery element amongst the Georgia rabble.

Whilst I cannot buy wine to partake in my communion rituals, you Protestants can still buy strichnine rat poison and rattlesnakes every day of the week for your services…

By DebbieDoRight

December 15, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

  • Scandal-plagued Republicans step down from Congress. Ney, Ohio. DeLay, Texas. Foley, Florida. Democrat U.S. Rep. William Jefferson of New Orleans not only doesn’t, but is re-elected with 58 percent of the vote.*

my husband hails from the state of la. (and can trace his root back beyond the famous new orleans octaroon balls), i had asked him about that — his comment was “better the crook u know then the crook u don’t know” — aiiyeeee!!!

Iran hosted 67 Holocaust deniers from around the world this week. And this is the regime the Iraqi Surrender Group thinks can or will help in Iraq

do u think iraq’s views will be different from any other middle eastern nations? if u do, i have a bridge i wanna sell u…….

By DebbieDoRight

December 15, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this

i would like to know, what is the purpose of the “no liquor on sundays” law? was it because there were mass drunks on sunday, or because no one got up to go to work on monday?

By Rod

December 15, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

Jim, Jim, Jim (nudge tftt, time for her to wake up).

You’re against selling booze on Sunday? Why? Um, there’s a thing called separation of church and state – ever hear of it? Other than being a “religious” day, why is Sunday special? Since church and state are supposed to be separated, outlawing liquor sales on Sunday has no basis. Course, I guess Jim’s just advocating Government controlling our lives. Afraid your momma might go buy a beer on her way to church?

Whatever happened to the baby Panda?!?! He’s on the front page of the ajc.com every freakin’ day!

Seeger’s Restaurant – for some reason people were saddened when this deadbeat non-taxpaying jerkwad was leaving. Then a bank bailed him out. Now, he realized that he doesn’t want to pay back a bankloan for taxes that he never intended to pay anyway. We need to arrest his sorry @ss before he leaves the state and we have to make up the debt.

You disapprove of using a live puppy in the trial of those sickos?!?! Why? Does the idea of actually knowing what they did to the puppy disgust you? But you’d rather the jury not be able to judge them on what they actually did. How a55inine. I want the jury to know exactly what happened. Knowledge is good (oh, how I wish Bush believed that).

Sounds like there’s an awful lot of Scandal-plagued Republicans out there. Probably be a lot simpler if we just elected Democrats. smirk

By sct

December 15, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this

So if I’m at home on a Sunday, decide to have a few friends over for dinner at the last minute, but have no wine to serve then I’m an alcoholic?????

Thats just plain stupid.

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

I loved “t’aint right” and “them’s the rules”. Perfect. Tone is everything.

Iraqi Surrender Group? Liberals will become surrender monkeys just for the monkey sex. (It’s because its so nasty).

Easy Trio for English Speaking Al Jezeera: Iran’s prez denies the holocaust….OJ denies the knifing…..W denies the civil war.

Luchovich’s trio today was the baby panda, britney and paris. At least underwear wont be problem here.

Wooten’s band of right-wingers to take over? Well, if Heetler had his brown shirts, why shouldn’t Wooten have his brown eyes? :) (you can say anything on a blog if you put a smiley face at the end of it, reference Windows 2000, pg. 37)

BTW: The new Windows edition? The title is: “To server man”. It’s a cookbook. Run for your lives! (rod serling, 1960)

If a million surrender monkeys cut-and-run from a million wars for a million years, would they produce one John Kerry? Of all the names dropped for the next prez, John Kerry’s is the last and the least…..

Me to Kerry: Go fishing and stay there. Leave your babe wife here. ditto al gore. I could be happy for the rest of my life with those two women. That t’aint askin’ much. If this were taliban rule, I probably could get both of them for a goat and a promise to OJ a couple of teachers. :)

The frozen fertilized embryo from monkey sex can produce whats called “snowflake surrender monkey babies”. No two are identical.

By STEPHEN

December 15, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

I don’t get it!!! You can go out to a bar, thinly disguised as a restaurant, on Sunday in Georgia and suck up all the alcohol that you want and drive home possibly drunk. But, you can’t go out to purchase a bottle/can on Sunday and drink it at home. Yep…that makes a lot of sense to me.

Makes about as much sense as metropolitan Atlanta wanting to be known as an International mecca and one that can attract large conventions, yet all the party places are closed on Sunday.

Let’s be real about this…once you get outside of the metro area, this is going to be a rural (aka HICK) versus metro vote.

By Cindy Smith

December 15, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

I don’t understanding the reasoning behind the prohibition of liquor sales on Sunday. People who buy alcohol in liquor stores usually drink at home and don’t get dui’s. Thus, because liquor by the drink in restaurants is legal on Sundays, there are probably more dui’s on Sundays than during the week when sensible people buy alcohol at the liquor store and drink at home.

By Liberal Drive-by

December 15, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

“I have not seen any groundswell of movement for Sunday sales. - Wooten

I didn’t see any groundswell of movement for voter ID either but you pushed for that.

By Wayne

December 15, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Re: William Jefferson’s re-election. Sonny Perdue (R-GA) broke the law and also stole $100,000 and got relected.

By candide

December 15, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Ban Baptist iced tea, not alcohol. Iced tea eats up the brain and makes rednecks religious. There are already too many dumb Christians in this state.

By Temp

December 15, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

Jim, your opposition to Sunday alcohol sales is based on nothing but simple religious idiocy. There are exactly zero logical reasons to ban Sunday alcohol sales. So what if the retail and liquor stores are leading the charge? I, for one, am totally in favor of making alcohol available 24/7/365, so count me as part of the groundswell. And apparently I’m not alone since the AJC’s own article yesterday stated that over 60% were in favor of changing the law.

By Rob

December 15, 2006 08:55 AM | Link to this

I have to admit, Jim, I rarely dissagree with you. But this time I’m sick. The reason we all want Sunday sales is not because we “can’t anticipate on Saturday a desire for booze on Sunday.” Its because the only reason anyone that wants to keep it banned can come up with is because its the Lords day. As a Catholic, and a Conservative, religion of any kind has no place in government. Sunday is the Lords day in Christianity. But Friday and Saturday are holy days in other heavily practiced religions in this country. Are you going to ban sales on those days as well?

By Billy

December 15, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

…people who can’t anticipate on Saturday a desire for booze on Sunday shouldn’t be drinking. They’re at or near alcoholism.

People who cannot anticipate the need for a gun 3-5 days before the fact shouldn’t have a gun. They’re at or near irrational fear or homicidal rage. What’s your position on waiting periods for buying guns, Jimbo?

Besides, the issue isn’t “anticipating a desire”. I always am anticipating the need for toilet paper, yet sometimes it slips our minds and we have to run to the nearby gas station for it. Same with milk for my son and food for the dog. It’s not that the need isn’t anticipated; it’s that other factors come into play.

I rarely drink. Maybe two beers a week, on average. That means I don’t always know how many I have on hand. If I want to have a beer and watch the Falcons, I’m SOL if I don’t think to go buy some a day in advance. You know why I don’t think to buy it in advance? Because I don’t let beer run my life. I believe that people who make sure they buy alcohol on Saturday each week are probably more likely to have a drinking problem than are those of use who only occasionally drink and don’t obsess about always making sure that booze is on hand.

There is no valid argument for laws prohibting alcohol sales on Sundays. First, it is, without a doubt, a law based on religion, and as such is a violation of the establishment clause of the First Amendment. There is no secular reason for having this law. And even if we accept laws based on religion, you’re going to have a tough time convincing me that something that is acceptable in God’s eyes the other six days of the week is unacceptable on the seventh.

Why not eliminate sales on Wednesdays? Many people also go to church on Wednesdays. Besides, people who can’t anticipate on Tuesday a desire for booze on Wednesday shouldn’t be drinking. They’re at or near alcoholism.

By beretverde

December 15, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

One must remember Jesus’first “miracle”… changing water into wine. I hope to hell he didn’t do that on Sunday. What a bunch of hypocrits.

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Jims wrong about the live puppy. If I were on a jury during a prostitution case, I’d insist on a live crack ho for the demonstration of the crime.

Blow up dolls just dont cut it in a court of law.

By RW-(the original)

December 15, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

sct is exactly right on this one Jim. Lots of times last minute get togethers happen on a Sunday and there should be no reason you have to go to a bar to have that get together.

That being said (and my computer not having struck me down for agreeing with sct for the first time ever), Georgia’s laws make more sense than a lot of states in this arena. For instance, in Massachusetts you can buy on Sunday only in a county that touches a county from a different state that allows Sunday sales.

One carry over from yesterday that I can’t believe none of the “lawyers” here mentioned. It is NOT Constitutionally protected free speech to use the names and likenesses of other citizens without permission.

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

Billy, if you’re getting your milk, dogfood and azzwipe from the restroom of a gas station, then maybe liquour on sunday t’aint your biggest problem.

By Mardi

December 15, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

I have just one message for Iranian nutjob Ahmadinejad — the Crusades are a myth! And there’s no Allah, either.

By Billy

December 15, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

“But Friday and Saturday are holy days in other heavily practiced religions in this country. Are you going to ban sales on those days as well?”

Religions like Islam, which is at least consistent in its prohibition of alcohol…

By Billy

December 15, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

Nice, foreskin, though I didn’t say anything about a gas station restroom

By Reece

December 15, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

To start with, we can be very thankful that Jim Wootenanny is NOT an appellate judge. It was a puppy that was tortured, maimed, abused and burned in an oven. Why then, should not a puppy be used to demonstrate the situation for jurors to consider. If the evidence shows they are guilty of the crimes they’re charged with this point is moot.

We can be very thankful that Jim is NOT a doctor, he’d be pronouncing from whatever TaliBaptist pulpit upon which he’s standing today that anyone that wants to purchase a 6 pack of Guinness on Sunday is an alcoholic. During the Clinton years, so many of the reich-wingers (yes, you Newt) used the argument that the administration wanted “Womb to Tomb” protections for Americans. Now you and your ilk are trying to install laws, rules and regulations that are nothing but that. Only instead of something like universal health care for Americans your projects are designed to get into all Americans bedrooms, bathrooms and kitchens.

Jefferson, like Tom Delay has not been convicted (yet, being an operative part of my answer). House Democratic leadership has denied him posts that otherwise would have been his. As a Democrat, I would advocate his incarceration should he be convicted, just as I would with the others mentioned here. Given the history of politics and elections in LA, Jim should’nt find his re-election surprising. I really have no idea what it says about the voters in LA.

We can be very thankful that Jim has no direct responsibility for US foreign policy. Of course the Taliban is an enemy of our country as well as many others. Had your hero done his job with even a modicum of intelligence (I’m not talking about CIA) and prosecuted the war in Afghanistan we’d long since seen key accomplishments. Among those, the capture of Osama bin Laden, stability nationwide for the Afghans, infrastructures restored, freedoms for the Afghan people and peace in that region. Bush performed his job to such a low standard that we showed weakness and lack of resolve immediately upon our arrival in Afghanistan. Too late for that point Jim.

We can be thankful that Jim will go out of his way to drive through some of these smaller towns. Please make the drive wearing blackface theatrical makeup next time. The goober sheriff’s gonna have big fun with you boy.

USAir of Trump? Could that list be expanded to include Donald Duck?

We can be very thankful that Jim and his band of reichwingers will never take over (except perhaps in Georgia)because he advocates many of the same ideas that his fearless leaders Bush and Newt do: Remove free speech, torture prisoners of war, deconstruct the constitution, restrict the freedom of the press (and for a so-called journalist that one amazes me) and make this a martial state.

By JOE

December 15, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

YOU KNOW…I’M SICK AND TIRED OF THESE FLIPPIN JESUS FREAKS CRAMMING THEIR RELIGION DOWN OUR THROATS.IF THEIR IN CHURCH WHAT DO THEY CARE IF WE BUY BEER?THEY GO TO REVIVAL ON WEDNESDAY AND WE BUY BEER ON WEDNESDAY.WE ARE ONLY 1 OF THREE STATES THAT HAVE THIS STUPID LAW AND IT NEEDS TO BE “GONE”. THE OLD SOUTH IS GONE AND IT’S NOT COMING BACK. GET OVER IT NECKS.I WILL TELL YOU WHY THEY CARE IF WE BUY BEER WHEN THERE IN CHURCH.BECAUSE IT MEANS THE SOUTH IS CHANGING AND THEY CAN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND IT’S CHANGING FOR THE BETTER. IT’S BECOMING MORE DIVERSE AND IT’S BECOMING MORE TOLERANT OF OTHER PEOPLE AND OTHER RACES AND THIS IS NOT WHAT THE BIBLE THUMPERS WANT. THEY WANT TO OPRESS AND CONTROL THE MASSES SO THEY THINK THERE STILL IN “THE OLD SOUTH”.SORRY..IT’S LONG GONE.YOU CAN KEEP TRYING TO HANG ON BUT WE WILL WIN THIS BATTLE SOONER OR LATER.I SAY SELL IT ALL ON SUNDAYS. BEER,WINE,LIQUOR ANYTHING THAT THE CONSUMER WANTS HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY WHENEVER HE WANTS. WITHOUT THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT TELLING THEM THEY CAN’T BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN BELIEFS AND NOT THE CONSUMERS.YOU ARE AN OPRESSIVE LOT OF PEOPLE AND YOU ARE A BLACK EYE ON THE NEW SOUTH. WHEN I THINK OF BLUE LAWS I THINK OF A TIME WHEN THERE WERE INACTED AND DURING THAT TIME THERE WAS ALSO CHURCH BURNINGS,HANGINGS,SEGREGATION AND SO FORTH.THAT IS THE OLD SOUTH AND THAT IS WHAT ALOT OF PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THEY THINK ABOUT BLUE LAWS.TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!LETS TAKE THE SOUTH IN A NEW DIRECTION AND OUT OF THE OPRESSIVE PAST.PASS THE LAW FOR LIQUOR SALES ON SUNDAY AND LET NO PERSON BE DENIED OF ANYTHING BECAUSE OF SOMEONE ELSE’S BELIEFS.

By JK

December 15, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

For the umpteenth time, … “Audit: Katrina aid squandered.” So who do we blame? …. Haste and oversight don’t go together.

When you elect people to run the government who are admittedly anti-government, who loathe, mock, and scorn government bureaucracy of all kinds, then what you get is a government full of incompetent programs and people that just don’t care! And guess what? Our tax dollars are still paying for them, even when they do a crappy job!

Why not elect and hire people who CARE, not only about providing core services, but about doing so efficiently and effectively, applying oversight and honesty, cutting fat, and restructuring to give us the best bang for our buck. People who enjoy that type of work (Cathy Cox is a good example) make better public servants than those who stomp around blathering about morals, making big speeches, and playing to people’s prejudices. Think about that in ‘08. Thanks.

By Reece

December 15, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

You tell’em Joe.

By jbmlaw

December 15, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. As with all commerce restrictions, we handle liquor backwards. Instead of punishing the poor drummer pushing his wares, we ought to punish the purchaser for his illegal behavior. Execution. See how long the prohibition stays on the books.

PSC Commissioner Doug Everett needs to find a way to telecommute. What exactly do they do that requires his physical presence? Alternatively, every government agency ought to be based around Macon, the middle of the state, rather than in Atlanta. Why do they need to be in the middle of the mess? They could think clearer farther out.

There’s a baby panda? They ought to have a “name the panda” contest.

As to thieves who run for office, we note that among Democrat voters, there is a special admiration for Democrat politicians who can prove their special talents to the voters.

By @@

December 15, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

Jim:

Liquor sales on Sunday? Can it be sold on Election Day too?

Now that’ll be a true finger test won’t it? We’ll end up with a politician or a booger depending on how many times the voter has been arrested for a D.U.I.

Politicians or boogers? Well, nevermind, they’re pretty much the same thing.

Theatrics in the courtroom? I’ve gotta tell ‘ya Jim…some of the best entertainment I’ve witnessed is by defense lawyers in a courtroom. So absurd and funny that I momentarily lost sight of the crime for which the defendant was being tried.

Iran hosted Holocaust Deniers? CAIR recently hosted a conference where the Syrian Ambassador slammed the U.S.

We better start asking ourselves, just who it is that CAIR cares about?

Donald Trump or U.S. Airways? How about “The Donald” in the airways? I’d like to see just how long that comb-over really is.

By Watta Load

December 15, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

Anyway, people who can’t anticipate on Saturday a desire for booze on Sunday shouldn’t be drinking. They’re at or near alcoholism

Now folks, I’m sure Jim is being sarcastic with this statement…I mean, no one could purposely make such a stupid statement.

And the law is stupid…I’m sick of the “let’s just live with it” mentality.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

December 15, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

Let’s face it 200 years of not buying alcohol on Sunday has done nothing to reduce the moral and ethical squalor that is Georgia.

I say, let the animals drink, 24/7.

By JOE

December 15, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

OOPS…Sorry about the caps.

By time for the truth

December 15, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

Funny how the leftist racebaiters in the party of hate media are UTTERLY IGNORING the lynching of three white Duke kiddies by a black whore/stripper liar and a white demoNcrat sheister who despicably used the case just to get reelected. The latest revelations of complete innocence (no DNA in the stripper/whore’s underwear from the lynched three, but loads of other male DNA from paying tricks plus a wholly biased utterly discredited photo line up) blow a Hiroshima sized hole in a case already dead as Kennedy’s DUI victim at Chappaquiddick. This is black racism/bigotry run riot, a lying bitter black whore who has been cynically used by a white leftist fascist prosecutor for personal gain has created the weakest US legal case since the leftist lynching of Tom Delay in TX.

Snivelling moron rod urgently needs to ask for extra ritalin to be sprinkled on its Fulton Co juvenile hall breakfast oatmeal.

The Iraq Surrender Group are just arrogant hasbeens pompously offering NOTHING but specious platitudes and the blindingly obvious mixed with the utterly moronic, but as its all good PR ammo for the Bush hate mill the fascist cut and run left lap it up like energiser Pavlov’s dogs and bytches.

I see yankkkee rednekkk NAMBLA has finally flaccidly climbed out of that cockroach infested Buford Hwy Motel 6 king size bed and left J M Karr alone just long enough to post its usual bile and hatred of its southern betters.

Why doesn’t unhinged foreskin commit multi-id cyber suicide … we all await this long overdue relief with the cynicism all sick willie klinton watchers have amassed awaiting an apology for rape, criminal presidential pardon selling, frequent sexual harassment, defiling the oval office, nepotism in the WH Travel office, perjury, lies and more lies, stealing WH furniture and on and on.

As a very infrequent imbiber of alcohol Sunday licensing laws in GA should be changed to allow alcohol to be purchased in the shops. Then the hateful left can drown their sorrows about Bush’s TWO MORE GLORIOUS YEARS with on demand ease, instead of having to remember to plan their alcoholic binging and extra liver damage in advance the night before.

Funny how the lefty cowards who are syill endlessly bleating about Katrina won’t point the finger of blame for the endemic corruption and criminality at those who actually have perpetrated the crime … but then the screeches of racism would drown out the arguments for personal responsibility. Still at least the hopelessly incompetent demoNcrat Gov Blanco has finally been seen for what she’s worth - at a charity auction for a dinner at the LA Govenors mansion Blanco managed to amass a “hyper-inflated” bid of $1 … if it were me I’d demand my 99 pennies change, just so I didn’t feel utterly ripped off.

By Buy Danish

December 15, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Jim Wooten,

I don’t think you’re “Thinking Right”.

If you don’t want to drink on Sunday, no one is stopping you. Why impose your personal decisions on others? This is a no harm, no foul situation, and your tax argument is nonsensical. Purchasing wine and beer on Sundays add revenue to the tax coffers as it draws people into local stores, it does not cost the State a dime.

I really would like a cogent response to that question, because your first attempt is frankly pitiful.

It makes no sense for it to be legal to purchase a drink in a bar or restaurant, but not be able to freely do the same for consumption in one’s own home or with friends at their homes.

Your argument that only an alcoholic would care is ridiculous and insulting. I’m not an alcoholic thank you very much, but I do enjoy wine with my meals and when entertaining. Sweet tea just doesn’t cut it where I come from. That does not make me a heathen.

Unnecessary Government intrusions should be kept to the bare minimum. I don’t need the government micromanaging my store purchases.

I find it ironic that you are ready to raise the white flag of surrender over the War on Christmas, but want to impose your personal view of proper Christian comportment on all of us.

BTW, here is another War on Christmas story. Anyone who says that this war does not exist is either a fool or an willing advocate of silencing Christian speech and traditions.

If anyone is wondering, Sasha Cohen is on a “Christmas Tour”, which makes this politically-correct intrusion even more absurd.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

December 15, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

How about mandatory Sunday showers for Georgians, with soap?

YOU PEOPLE ARE PIGS! BRUSH YOUR DAMN TOOTH, TOO!

By Jim's a Hypocrite

December 15, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

You are such a hypocrite. Let the market decide. Let the makret decide. Let the market decide.

If I wanna buy a friggin six pack on Sunday, that doesn’t make me an alcoholic. It makes me a guy who likes to have a beer while watching football you frigging freak. WWJD? He’d grab me a coldie when he got up to go take a leak, that’s what he’d do.

How do you stand yourself?

Failure to anticipate? Uggh - you’re insane!!!! What about W - The President’s failure to anticipate the unimaginable mess we have on our hands now? Huh?

Idiot.

By Curly Girl

December 15, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

TFTT tried to defile my trailer, until she found out I was a girl.

Hi, it’s me. Andi.

By Bubba

December 15, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

Hey Joe - you think that “ANYTHING THAT THE CONSUMER WANTS HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY WHENEVER HE WANTS.” Anything? Does that mean I can buy your crack-hoe momma anytime, oops, I forgot - I can.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

December 15, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

25,000 dead and wounded Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not a single Woo-ten KKKlanner - what are the odds of that?

Ladies, what is your secret?

By Diogenes

December 15, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Jim

“Compassionate conservatives?” Bah! Humbug! Never were, never will be. Their whole political agenda militates against compassion. Diogenes could make a list as long as the leg you’re trying to pull with demonstrations of the lack of conservative compassion, or even acknowledgement of the existence of their brethren who do not live in gated communities. FEMA’s response to Katrina was a boondoggle of the first magnitude, brought on by the overweening arrogance of Bush and those he chose to entrust with public money.

By Rod

December 15, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

TFTT - you said Bush has two more glorious years. When were his first glorious years? Before or after he got thousands of U.S. soldiers killed and screwed up U.S. Foreign Policy?

By JK

December 15, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

Since I quit reading Troof’s posts, I’ve had a lot fewer headaches.

jbmlaw, what can I say? I’ve tried many times to give honest consideration to your logic and scholarly references, and apparent concern for the betterment of our world. But dude… really. Execute anyone for any crime? You are, as Whitney says, “Whack.” Seriously.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

December 15, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Like Bi Danish, many of the previous Popes were anti-Semties, and would have helped her fire up the ovens for Miss Cohen.

That a security guard at a skating rink would make such a request of a group of carolers is shocking - this is obviously the work of the evil Elders of Zion or the Illuminati, or the Knights Templar - why, next, they’ll have lions chase a fine Christian gal like Tanya Harding on the ice!

If she’s nekkid, I want the video rights…

By fly delta

December 15, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

The article says Anyway, people who can’t anticipate on Saturday a desire for booze on Sunday shouldn’t be drinking. They’re at or near alcoholism.
This doesn’t make any sense!! Actually an alcoholic would be the one who does remember there are no liquor sales on sunday and would have their stash already. No liquor sales on sunday is inconvenient to people who don’t drink everyday, but then end up having a few friends over and maybe want a glass of wine or a drink to entertain. It’s ridiculous that you can go to a restaurant or bar and then end up driving home drunk, but you cannot purchase your own alcohol to drink at home where you don’t have to drive anywhere on a sunday. This state is ridiculous sometimes!!

By John

December 15, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

There is no reason to sell alcohol in stores on Sundays. There are sufficient opportunities now to purchase it.

By Diogenes

December 15, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

Jim,

Your comment: “This is the enemy: Teachers in Afghanistan, under Taliban rules, get three strikes. They’re first warned not to teach. If they continue to teach, they are beaten, and then killed, as two were Saturday.”

How far away from that kind of repression are we when teachers are not allowed to teach evolution, not allowed to teach sex education, when kooks try to get books banned from our schools? Jim, the repressive right grinds away, eroding the freedom of speech, thought, and freedom of choice, setting up their own schools to brainwash their children into clones of themselves with the narrow mindedness and bigotry we take for granted in the Taliban. The lack of resolve will imperil us just as much in this corner of the world as in that corner of the world.

By Sailor

December 15, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

Andi is convalescing in a mental ward at Walter Reed, from injuries she suffered while blogging for the chickenhawk Commander in Chief. She’s been awarded the Purple Heart by Colonel Beauregard T. Realisp of the Alabama Irregulars.

Our prayers go out to this fine American Woman.

By time for the truth

December 15, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

25,000 dead and wounded Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not a single Woo-ten KKKlanner - what are the odds of that?

how come the mohammedan fascist butcherers also missed you rednekks NAMBLA? I suppose that nearly worn out blow up billypecker goat doll you sent dustbin laden was seen as giving aid and comfort to the enemies of America!

SUPERMAX in CO awaits vile treasonous SCUM LIKE YOU, maggot brain and deranged foreskin!!

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

Jim’s wrong about selling liquor to a puppy on sundays.

I be expectin’ I wonts be respectin’ no man what dont lives by the code.

By getalife

December 15, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

Document proves lies behind Iraq war

Lets see, we have a Senator going to Syria to talk, we have Senators going to Iraq to talk.

Have the Senators taken over foreign policy?

Was there some kind of coup in Washington?

I do not think this has ever happened in war time.

By time for the truth

December 15, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

Since I quit reading Troof’s posts, I’ve had a lot fewer headaches.

now you get far more outbreaks of rabid PMS … life’s a bytch being a cut and run Bush hating feminazi aint it??!!

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

December 15, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

One of the most moronic liquor laws in this very moronic state allows drive-through windows in liquor stores. As least make the lazy drunken bassturd get out of the truck and come in the store without passing out.

By joe

December 15, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

WOW!!!! We’ll “BUBBA” and i have no doubt that is your real name. it appears i have hit a sore spot. which comment was it…no!!!! let me guess.eerr?? hangings..no? segregation..no? church burnings..no? I KNOW!!!! THE OLD SOUTH!!! that was it wasn’t it? No matter i just want to thank you for proving my point.now you can go back to your dukes of hazzard re-runs.lol…lol….lol..neck!!!

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Hey Pope: I think I can sell your “Holocaust on Ice” idea to Amahdinejad. the dvd sales alone……$$$

By Charles

December 15, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Sunday liquor sales is an issue I'm ambivalent about. The libertarian in me says get the government out of the way altogether; the traditionalist says that not only is Sunday liquor a bad idea, but bring back the store closings at Easter and Christmas. William Jefferson's re-election just confirms the difference between republicans and democrats. Republicans will not put up with corruption and deviant behavior; democrats reward it.

By DebbieDoRight

December 15, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

this is obviously the work of the evil Elders of Zion or the Illuminati, or the Knights Templar

LMAO!! 2 funny!! however, i think u slipped up there. u r supposed to be the “ignant” KKK — i’m sure they don’t know who the Knights Templar are…..

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

December 15, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Ages ago the Pope worked in a Mom and Pop grocery store in a small town in upstate NY. No beer sales from midnight until noon Sunday. About 11:30 the two village drunks congregated and commiserated and sweated and shook out the night before around the beer cooler, thirstily awaiting the stroke of twelve…

Thank Gawd in Georgia you have the ‘shine.

By JohnD

December 15, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

As a Christian conservative I believe:

If we are going to sell alcohol on one day we should sell on all days. The Christians who oppose such sales simply should follow their faith.

Women should not have abortions but the government has no place in the medical decisions of the citizens. Those of us who oppose abortion simply need to work to convince others not to follow the practice.

Conception produces life, a baby, and as one who has seen life in the womb through medical technology and then four weeks later endured a picture with no heart beat in an unexplained death, the sorrow is unbearable and you never forget.

If you support abortion, then you support murder.

“War is Hell”, old but true. The threat of Islamo-Facism is real and must be faced. How would the anti-war crowd suggest we conduct ourselves when faced with the inarguable fact of continued acts of violence aimed at the US? 25 years of these attacks should convince anyone.

CAIR is a terrorist organization.

Politicians, left and right, care only about maintaining POWER and their elected office. Until we stop having career politicians this will be true.

By Diogenes

December 15, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Jim,

Your comment, “If I’m the appellate court judge, I overturn the conviction, if it comes, of two young men accused of brutalizing and killing a puppy.”

You got one right.

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

The fact that David Duke would think he could glean political capital from attending the holocaust denial conference in Tehran is stupifying…..the fact that he can go there and be welcomed and safely travel and be interviewed by entertainment tonite……what is really going on in the middle east?

What information are we not getting? This is like when pakistan’s president had a book tour here last summer, and he’s facing a nuclear coup from islamists over there, it just doesn’t add up.

Is the entire Iraqi War simply overstated? Is it just like the murders over here where people just randomly kill or get even with lovers etc?

Are we being duped by the media so that we keep spending money like there’s no tomorrow?

What’s really going on???? I dont think anyone knows. That means nobody, I mean NOBODY is in charge. We just make stuff up? Whatever sounds like it will sell newspapers?

I honestly dont know anymore.

By DebbieDoRight

December 15, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

maggot brain and deranged foreskin!!

can a 4skin be deranged? wouldn’t that be painful? o.k. even though i’m female i opt for a chance to initiate…….

MAN RULE# 1029: if ur 4skin is deranged, please, please, PLEASE, go see a doctor. Quickly. eeewwww!!

By Middle America

December 15, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

Iran hosted 67 Holocaust deniers from around the world this week. And this is the regime the Iraqi Surrender Group thinks can or will help in Iraq.

Guess which nation has benefitted most from our removal of Saddam Hussein from Iraq? It would be Iran. But I know what you and the neocons will say “well we have to overthrow Iran too”. I see what they were doing, they knew this was like a domino effect. “If we tip over the first one, then we’ll HAVE to knock over the others too to offset what we’ve done.” I swear, we’d have better foreign policy if we had a monkey throwing darts at a board of choices than we currently do. But we live in a nation where people voted for W. again in 2004 knowing he’d already botched the war and where the ajc thinks people want to hear from a hack like Jim Wooten. What does that say about the American people?

By Jenn

December 15, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this

Time for the Truth— Lets not forget that the “lady of the evening” in the Duke case just recently gave birth. Wonder if she knows who the baby daddy is…

By jm

December 15, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

No liquor sales on Sunday is just another example of how conservatives use government to tell people how to live their lives.

Liberals don’t want people having guns and conservatives don’t want people having booze or sex.

By getalife

December 15, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

JohnD is a hypocrite:

If you support abortion, then you support murder.

Then this:

“War is Hell”, old but true

John,

Pick one, you can’t be pro life and pro war.

Also, you can’t be against welfare but support Iraqi welfare.

Hypocrite but in line with all the wingnuts.

By Diogenes

December 15, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

Jim,

How about a delightful example of conservative doublethink?

One of your bloggers made the asinine comment that “Unnecessary Government intrusions should be kept to the bare minimum. I don’t need the government micromanaging my store purchases,” yet this very blogger is known for rabid fulminations about teaching proper sex education and evolution in the schools.

Doesn’t want the government in the stores, but having it control thought is another thing altogether. This is known throughout the world as demagoguery.

By B.

December 15, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

I’m very confused. I’m certain that I saw a story in the AJC about how, in a recent poll, 58-66% of Georgians said they want beer and wine sales on Sundays. How are 66% of Georgians a “special interest group”? This is a change in the law that is apparently supported by a super-majority of the populace - not something that needs to be hidden or snuck through the legislature.

Of course, the alcohol distributors were probably the initial impetus for this proposed change in the law, since it was their business that was being harmed. But so what? If the people then agreed - to the tune of 66% so far - great. Who cares who came up with the idea, if the idea is a good one? (And regardless of what one legislator says - 66% is a groundswell.)

On the other hand, when something is only supported by 33% of the people, but still the law - that’s a special interest group.

By getalife

December 15, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

OMG, Charles.

Republicans will not put up with corruption and deviant behavior

You have got to be joking.

Foley, Cunningham, Ney, Haggard, Delay, etc…

You been a cave or what?

Geez.

By Redneck Convert

December 15, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

I been against Sunday sales of booze ever since Jim Ed Postlewaite showed up drunk at the Church of Holiness, took out his tallywacker, and peed all over the pulpit. Sister Dusty was real outraged. She said she never seen something so small that could cause so much scandle.

Anyway, I always stock my pickup with plenty of beer before Sunday comes. Get it straight from my beer truck. They don’t miss it none down at the warehouse. Wooten is right. If they ain’t got sense enough to buy plenty to last thru Sunday, they got no business drinking. And the bible says don’t sell booze on Sunday.

Anybody that’s for Sunday selling of booze needs to have a Postlewaite done on him. Sunday is the Lord’s day. The Lord says drink all you want for six days, but don’t drink before you go to church. Or you might get banned like Jim Ed Postlewaite. Sister Dusty is still in shock, I think. She says she ain’t never seen anything like it, and judging from her hard looks and her kinda prudish way, I bet she ain’t.

Well, have a good weekend everybody. After my beer run today, I’m going to go Christmas shopping. I got my eye on a nice new frying pan for the missus, and I got to go downtown to a street corner to pick up something I know the boy will like. I still don’t know what to get my dotter—maybe a roll of Copenhagen.

By dave

December 15, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

Yes that’s right you neocon conservatives are for smaller government, and less government intrusion into our lives. Unless…..yes unless it happens to be church regulated. The blue law against Sunday alcohol sales shows why and how backwards our state is. Of course it makes sense to me that i can go out and watch football at a bar and getted hammered and drive home on Sunday. But I can’t go into Kroger and get beer and sit on my couch and watch football and drink at home….unless because of some church/state law i have to be reminded to buy booze on saturday. Time for georgia to catch up with the rest of the country (and world that is)! Happy Hanukah Atlanta!

By sct

December 15, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

Enough of this Panda talk. Lets move on to some real issues.

I think the AJC should have a “Name Mary Cheney’s Baby” contest.

By Luther J Maloney

December 15, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

The state should be out of the business of setting the hours/dates for the sale of alcohol. Sunday alcohol sales is a perfect example of an issue that is most appropriately regulated at the local level, by the citizens of a city or county. The alcohol sales policies will then more accurately reflect the nature of the community.

By Typical Georgia Redneck

December 15, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

I’m out ridin in my pickup ‘round the county square to half after dawn Sunday morning when I wakes up and I looks down twixt my legs my jeans are gone dunno where and I done peed my shorts they’re ‘round my ankles and I’m lying on about 70 empty Bud cans in my cab and my head is in Billy Bob’s lap he’s buck nekkid and snoring and drolling and my butt hurts like a summabeech.

I need me a beer Mr. Wooten.

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

The only thing that supports Wooten’s position against a live puppy in a courtroom would be if the puppy managed to get his handcuffs off and made a break for it. Then, if he somehow got one of the bailiff’s machine pistols, well, I wouldn’t want to be there.

So we have to err on the side of safety, and ban live puppies from the courtroom.

By JohnD

December 15, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

You really should do just that.

There is nothing hypocritical about my views.

Defending yourself against attack from a group of people who continually vow to “Kill all Americans” is hardly being pro war. Only fools are pro war, but then again only a fool would sit on his hands and die while under attack.

The Muslims have been attacking Christians for 1,400 years and attacking the US directly for at least 25 years. So what is your strategy, Mr. life?

I never mentioned welfare. So who is the “wingnut”?

You guys (liberals) are the worst hate-mongers of all time. No discussion, no sense, no answers, no platform - just hate, hate, hate and name calling.

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

The sunday liquor ban got it’s start with the moonshiners in the 1920s and 30s. Seems most folks were going to church just to get liquored up by moonshiners who were using the baptismal basins as stills. The reverends were all in on it. The women folk were in the choir so they weren’t wise to what was happening in the little baptismal room as the men would go in there one by one under the cover of helpin’ out with the with the donation baskets and community wafers. It worked for years until one sunday, I think it were a afternoon service, one of the women got the conniptions and feinted, and the only water available was in the baptismal basin, so a group of them chorus girls carried her in there and doused her with 90 proof. The first gold club hooters was born and the outrage quickly spread to the legislature, and now we have this mess.

Seems a shame.

By dave

December 15, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

With it being Chanukah and all….Do you think if I light a Chanukah Menorah in my window tonight up here in Dawsonville the KKK will come crawling out of the woods and firebomb my house (or at least burn a cross on my fromt lawn)?!?! How about us jews, can we buy Alcohol on Sundays? We can wear those arm bands like the Nazi’s had us wear in WWII. Then the everyone (and the store owners) would know we are jews and we could alcohol on Sunday. We could buy it for you guys on your way out of church too! What do you think?

By getoveryourself

December 15, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

The Sunday liquor sales ban is stupid…just plain dumb. There is absolutely no justification for it.

Ahmadnijehad is sick bastard, as well as former REPUBLICAN LA state senator David Duke for speaking at his sham of a conference.

William Jefferson is a corrupt POS that should be indicted. But then again, we all know that in LA, corruption and politics have gone together like peanut butter and jelly since before Huey Long.

And one last thing, as much as Wooten and some of you bemoan public transport…did it ever dawn on you that we are one of a few major metro areas in the developed western world not to have a comprehensive public transport system? Gripe as much as you want, but you can’t run a metropolis of 5 million people solely on the automobile. Welcome to the 21st Century!

By Sick&Tired

December 15, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

WOW - maricles are happening every day. Buy Danish - you go boy!!!

Yesterday, it was Time for the Truth and NOW you.

I’m going to have to change my “One Size Fits All” opinion of you two. I was beginning to think, you guys would agree with whatever Jim Wooten wrote about.

In my opinion - it should be legal to buy on Sundays. The reasoning behind not selling on Sunday is plain crazy. Why not buy it on Sunday, if you’re buying it at 10PM on Saturday - just to drink it ALL on Sunday.

If it’s truly about religion, then it should be a law just for Sunday church goers and we should not be allowed to consume alcoholic beverages on Sunday. How many of Jim Woooten followers would go for that law? Not many…….

By Diogenes

December 15, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

Political Foreskin (1050):

Your comment: “So we have to err on the side of safety, and ban live puppies from the courtroom.”

Very clever. Well said.

By Watta Load

December 15, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

Jim,

I agree with Buy Danish…we want a response to your stupid statement about Sunday alcohol sales.

We know you are reading, now explain yourself…

By dave

December 15, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

opps, need to proof read next time! :)

By DebbieDoRight

December 15, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

The fact that David Duke would think he could glean political capital from attending the holocaust denial conference in Tehran is stupifying…..the fact that he can go there and be welcomed and safely travel and be interviewed by entertainment tonite……what is really going on in the middle east?

4skin: no one really wants to know. no one wants to really answer the hard questions, so they just sweep it under the rug. u brought up, a couple of times the other day, the fact that Saudia Arabia has declared it will send troops into Iraq if the US pulled out — noticed how Jim conveniently didn’t bring that up on his friday free-for-all? he, (nor anyone else it seems), doesn’t want to talk about the enormous catastrophe that Iraq is becoming — the problem is too big to manage and is steadily spiralling out of control.

i guess all we average citizens can do is pray that the people we put in charge of our finances, our country, our future and our very lives, are making sound, rational judgements, thinking things out to it conclusion, and have a long term cohesive plan. like i said, we can pray.

By sct

December 15, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

JohnD seems to be claiming the standard Christian waiver when it come to killing.

You Christians have the best waivers.

By Lily Toad

December 15, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

The Muslims have been attacking Christians for 1,400 years John D, have you never heard of The Crusades? It was the other way around, Christians attacking Muslims.

I’m not saying that any religion is better than the other, just that many wars are based on religious differences.

By Diogenes

December 15, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

Jim,

The per diem for a state legislator has been raised to $173, as you note. That’s approximately $21.60/hr. if they work an 8 hour day, which is terribly presumptuous.

Thank goodness that Senator Robert Brown (D-Macon) has enough shame to try to introduce legislation to raise the Georgia minimum wage to $7.25/hr, approximately one-third of what the legislators get for meal money and miscellaneous expenses.

By candide

December 15, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

It’s great to see so many outraged people, outraged by our church-created laws concerning alcohol. I would be even happier if anti-religious opinion surfaced on the merits of the case, namely that Christianity is a hoax at best. But if wanting a drink on sunday is the only way to get people excited about the stupidities of religion, so be it. After all, Lucky Luciano was gotten on tax evasion not murder!

By Lily Toad

December 15, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

I was aghast when they taped that rescue puppy’s mouth in the courtroom. The Defense could have had used a stuffed animal for their demonstration instead of traumatizing another puppy.

By getalife

December 15, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

JohnD,

I am talking about Iraq.

I called you out on your hypocrisy.

If you can’t handle it, cut and run.

Whiner.

By CWest

December 15, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Jim,

I find it strange that you and State Representative Burkhalter don’t see the “groundswell” of support for Sunday alcohol sales.

Clearly, both of you haven’t been reading these blogs.

By Diogenes

December 15, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight (1106)

Your comment, “i guess all we average citizens can do is pray that the people we put in charge of our finances, our country, our future and our very lives, are making sound, rational judgements, thinking things out to it conclusion, and have a long term cohesive plan. like i said, we can pray.”

More importantly, we voted the rascals out.

By Joe

December 15, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

redneck convert: well now thats a cute little amiable story you got there.yee-haw!!! the fact is your “still” prohibiting me from commerce because of “your” beliefs not mine and thats wrong.always has been and always will be.it says don’t drink before you go to church?? ok fine. whats to stop some preacher from buying it on tuesday and getting hammered before his sermon?NOTHING!!!!! THE LAW IS STUPID!! All it does is prevent everyone from free commerce of alcohol on sunday because of the “southern baptist” and it’s basically symbolic because you can already have alcohol on hand for sunday so it’s useless “but” nonetheless it’s still preventing someone form doing something because of someone else beliefs.

By JohnD

December 15, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

sct

What are you talking about? You think Christians should allow others to kill us just because we are Christians?

Or are you trying to say being opposed to war and defending yourself against attack are somehow at odds?

Are you saying you would allow the Muslims to kill your family because YOU are opposed to war?

No, I understand now, you are just another anti-Christian who will take any opportunity to atttack without sound basis.

If something dire happens to you the Christians are the first who will come and offer aid and comfort to your family. Do you really think the secular hedonists will care?

Waivers. What nonsense. Are you and Getalife Siamese twins?

By candide

December 15, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

If Jesus had turned water to wine on the Sabbath he would have been in hot water. But Sabbath was Saturday, not Sunday.

Georgians need alcohol on Sunday, before and after church. It takes away the pain of listening to those redneck preachers.

By Woody's Fat

December 15, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

Republicans sicken me praying for the death of a South Dakota Senator so they can come back into power.

Come join me for discussion of this and other issues at:

http://www.forumcityusa.com//index.php?mforum=freedom

By JohnD

December 15, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

getalife,

You are the whiner.

You misused the word, hypocrite, I assume because you went to government schools, and are unable to admit as much.

You read unspoken words into the posts and then attack based upon your musings.

Be honest, the one thing that angers you the most about the first post was the part about being a Christian conservative. One of your compatriots calls religion “stupid”. She is just another cut and run, liberal wiener like you.

Still, nothing in my post is hypocritical and you just can’t stand that I am RIGHT.

By getalife

December 15, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

secular hedonists

OMG, fruit loops,

Do you think we are the devil?

Geez, what a wingnut.

By dave

December 15, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

With it being Chanukah and all….Do you think if I light a Chanukah Menorah in my window tonight up here in Dawsonville the KKK will come crawling out of the woods and firebomb my house (or at least burn a cross on my fromt lawn)?!?! How about us jews, can we buy Alcohol on Sundays? We can wear those arm bands like the Nazi’s had us wear in WWII. Then everyone (and the store owners) would know we are jews and we could buy alcohol on Sunday. We could buy it for you guys on your way out of church too! What do you think?

By Diogenes

December 15, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Jim,

Here’s a proposal: if Senator Brown’s legislation to raise the minimum wage in Georgia fails, lobby your state Senator, as I will mine, to introduce legislation to peg the per diem to the minimum wage, say $1 an hour over the minimum wage since being a legislator is semi-skilled labor.

By sct

December 15, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

3 common Christian waivers.

Jesus said no public prayer.

Jesus called divorce an abomination.

“thou shalt not kill”

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

December 15, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

For a whiner/hater/loser like you to call yourself a Christian, Joe - there’s your joke.

By getalife

December 15, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

JohnD,

I could give a crap about you being a so called Christian.

You are pro war and pro life.

This is hypocritical and you are wrong if you can’t see this obvious fact.

Religion is a belief and a choice. If you choose to believe fine but pray at church and stay out of politics.

Wingnuts have done enough damage in politics.

By Captain Freedom

December 15, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

The Captain is mortified Mr Wooten.

Your support of government intrusion in the free market of tall Bud Light sales is anti-conservative and smacks of Big Brother mania.

Are you a nanny state liberal in disguise?

You also missed an opportunity to gloat over Our Lord striking down the bedwetting lib Senator from the Dakotas. This is the same All Powerful Lord who kept Sen Strom Thurmond alive (after a fashion) and productively working in the Senate long after his mental faculties and bowel control had failed. God is a Republican, make no mistake.

And why do you hate puppies?

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

Remove the names of towns from the 2007 highway maps? There’s an Iraq War solution.

Cartographers created modern Iraq, they can simply erase it, and then we can come home.

That’s not surrender monkeys, that’s “un-render marquees”. (sorry)

By DC

December 15, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

To clarify: Jim Wooten is not an appellate judge. Thank God, because he has a tenuous grasp of criminal procedure and the rules of evidence.

Nor is he my personal moral compass. Shouldn’t a champion of deregulation and free trade welcome the abolishment of the antiquated, anti-capitalist prohibition on Sunday liquor sales?

Instead of calling other people alcoholics, maybe you should spend more time reading, particularly the parts in Matthew and Luke where one is admonished to “Judge Not.”

Jim, if you can’t maintain consistent opinions and refrain from finger-pointing, I feel you should write less and read more; alternatively, just keep your head stuck in the sand. That way you won’t have to see anyone sinning on Sunday.

By beretverde

December 15, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

RIGHT ON Candide! The Sabbath is SATURDAY! The bible thumpers conveniently omit that in their arguments, along with Jesus’ “first” miracle! I guess the “alcoholics” will continue to drive (note- no mass transit in GA to speak of thus one must use their car) to the restaurants and country clubs on Sunday, drink to their hearts content, then drive home. Hmmm, what’s wrong with this picture? What a joke… and it’s 2006? I know now why my relatives from up north laugh at us so hard!

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight? or DebbieBlogCorrect!!

That’s right. you noticed!! The Saudi Royal Family’s warning is the bombshell of the week, far more important than even the sad, sad tragic news out of S. Dakota.

Man are we in for it, if that report is true. I’m hoping it’s just more spin from al jazeera or something.

Nobody is in charge, folks. Exceptin’ maybe Paris Hilton. As long as Paris is hot, then the world is cool. That’s as reliable a gauge as anything I’ve heard from W.

Irony. Stay with irony and you’ll kill.

By MrLiberty

December 15, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Jim,

So this is what passes for Conservative these days? The belief that its ok to expand the role of government so long as its doing YOUR dirty work.

Hey jerk. If you can’t anticipate your alcohol needs before Sunday, maybe its because a bunch of friends unexpectedly showed up on Sunday for the game.

Screw you bozo and every other bible-thumping, self-ritous hipocrite.

This is about FREEDOM. Something you know absolutely nothing about. Your support for Mr. Bush is a clear indicator of that.

This is about control.

This is about unchristian folks like you who need to change everyone else’s behavior as a smokescreen to hide your own sins from god.

Just where exactly does Jesus say that it is necessary to get Cesar’s army to come enforce the sabbath?

You are nothing but a smug liberal who doesn’t have the courage to either come to my house and stop me from drinking or allow the free market to decide. Instead you get the government guns to do your bidding for you.

You would like to think that you are in the majority on this issue but once again you are too scared to even suggest that the legislature put it to a vote. Face it Wooten, this state has changed for the better. Educated folks with enough good sense to fear their government more than their god have mooved in and significantly raised the IQ of the state. Let’s put this issue to a vote. Of course we really shouldn’t have to put it to a vote. This is about freedom, and you jerks never should have been able to take it away from consumers in the first place. But then you progressive liberal types have been ignoring the bill of rights and the constitution for a long time now. No reason to expect that you would even care at this point.

By Lily Toad

December 15, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

“un-render marquees”

PF, you rock!

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Getalife: stfu. Where did you learn to write, the koran?

what a scad.

honestly.

By Phil

December 15, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Jim, all the reasons given to oppose RETAIL sales of alcohol on Sunday should also be applicable for BAR and RESTAURANT sales of alcohol on Sunday. If you really have a problem with alcohol sales on Sunday, then why aren’t you condemning BARS and RESTAURANTS and pushing for repeal of that Blue Law?

Come on, write an interesting, logical comment - hypocrisy is greatly overrated

By Diogenes

December 15, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

Jim,

It genuinely surprises me that the hot topic of the day is Sunday liquor sales in Georgia, not FEMA’s debacle, not the excessive per diem of legislators, not Holocaust deniers, not a puppy abused in court, not Taliban suppressing teachers, not MARTA for Gwinnett, not Jefferson’s reelection in Louisiana (which is a nice snub to the self-righteous Republicans), not even your proposal to rule the world. Who’d thunk it? I think that’s your line, but it’s appropriate.

By Beth

December 15, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Comments like this make me embarssed to have moved here. I am busy. I don’t get to go grocery shopping until Sunday usually. And then, of course, I can’t by wine. Yes, I drink WINE! On Sundays too!!! I’m a heathen from San Francisco who appreciates culture, good food and the art of winemaking. Man I miss SF..

By JJ

December 15, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

People should be able to buy beer and wine on Sunday in Georgia if they want to, not because somebody else don’t thank they should. Next, Marta’s getting more paying customers because on higher gas,more people moving in and closer to Atlanta and service is getting better. Thats why it would benefit Gwinnett County to have a Marta extention. People in Gwinnett are different fron what they were 20 years ago. They are more amp to choose Marta or some form of mass transit rail and bus service.

By Bemused Humanist

December 15, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

What a treat: Redneck Convert and Captain Freedom in one day! My regards to your missus, fellows.

Candide, it was Al Capone who was convicted of income tax evasion, not Lucky Luciano. I believe Thomas Dewey nailed him for running bordellos. No discount for Republicans, I guess …

TFTT, one of the most enjoyable aspects of not being a Christian is that one is not compelled to love one’s enemies, unlike our Christian conservative friends on this blog. What, pray tell, will they do when they get to heaven and find no one but poor people up there?

Actualy, when we Humanists hear the word Christianity, we tend to conjure up the Mahatma, who, when he was asked what he thought of Western Civilization, rejoined “I think it would be a good idea.”

Merry Christmas, one and all …

B.H.

By jbmlaw

December 15, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

Dear Getalife @ 10:34, if you need more bumper sticker aphorisms I suggest, “You cannot be pro-freedom and anti-war.”

By Beth

December 15, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

I also miss my spellcheck :-) I agree, why is it ok in restaurants? I don’t get it. Alcohol and religion are not mutually exclusive. You can’t even buy red wine for communion if you “don’t anticipate the need for it” on Saturday. That’s interesting. Is that why we’re stuck w/cranberry juice??

By Jen

December 15, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Not only should it be sold on Sundays but liquor should be sold in grocery stores where all other things we consume through our face are sold.

At least, if you lived in Louisiana you can get all your booze in one place anyday of the week.

By Rod

December 15, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this

Pathetic.

Jim Wooten has NO credibility as a journalist.

He puts a55inine comments in here like: “Anyway, people who can’t anticipate on Saturday a desire for booze on Sunday shouldn’t be drinking. They’re at or near alcoholism.” That way we all make our comments and his blog rate goes up. Which gets his bosses to think he’s doing a good job. Pathetic.

He writes something stupid so people will comment and gets rewarded by his bosses.

He has no talent. The AJC needs to get a blogger in here who actually thinks about valid topics.

By jbmlaw

December 15, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Dear DC @ 11:55, I respectfully disagree. I agree with Jim that the presence of a non-evidentiary live puppy could only be unreasonably prejudicial. Ghastly demonstrations are usually performed on dolls and replicas. There may have been sufficient non-prejudicial evidence otherwise to support conviction, but at a minimum the sentence would have to be thrown out.

Dear JohnD @ 11:33, don’t waste your time. You are not inspecting a finely-honed blade, if you get my drift.

Dear JK @ 10:01, apologies. John Kerry and I should never attempt humor. The purpose of my argument was to attempt to demonstrate that a criminal act can be a purchase as well as a sale, and that emphasis of one over the other is wrong. And my attempt at humor was a too-veiled effort suggesting that this topic is not an appropriate concern for the gendarmes in any event.

By Ware Coffee

December 15, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

We in the greater Bickley-Wilsonville area also welcome being on the map. We have felt like the Whos on the dust speck.

By Jenn

December 15, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Jen, LA also has daqueri drive throughs!!!

By jbmlaw

December 15, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

On other note, and I’ll jump out of the way. I think it was Diogenes yesterday who demonstrated mastery of my chart. I support minimum wage laws on three conditions: (1) the wage must be set no lower than $250 per hour; (2) as the employer cannot compel the employee to work for peanuts, only the employee - the one in control of formation and continued existence of the relationship - should be punished for violation of the law; (3) punishment for violation should be execution.

The latter is comparatively meaningless; if we executed all of those who are worth less than $250 per hour, what would be the loss? Right, nothing.

By 911

December 15, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

muslems are not the only terroists,ever heard of the kkk,timothy mcvay,eric rudolph,colubine killers,amish school killers,jeffery dahmer,child molesting priests?…

By Watta Load

December 15, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

I’d think that the puppy killers would want to be found guilty…if not, they’d better leave the state, or better yet, the country.

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

Thank you Lily Toad.

You know, i’ve been searching all my life for a surrender monkey sex partner………just kidding :)

lol

lmao

just a joke not a stalker here

so to sum up, no nasty monkey sex was offered or proffered or left unshaven……i dont know what that means…..

gads, there’s no graceful exit from this comment…I’m as trapped as US troops are in baghdad……

camera to dancing bears exiting stage left…………

By Klein

December 15, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

Wooten’s soup of the day is Sundays liquored up. Fine with me if they don’t drink it out of a brown bag.

You people need a job so you can buy it. The stuff costs too much for me.

And I WORK for a living not blog.

By Scooter

December 15, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

Jim, do personal liberties cease on Sundays? Heck why don’t we only sell alcohol on Fridays? Saturday is the Sabbath for many people you know? After all, if someone can’t guesstimate the amount of their alcohol that will be consumed over a weekend, well; they are probably In or on the road to alcoholism. Right?

William Jefferson’s mandate to continue his corruption possibly spawns from his base’s feeling he is just getting some back from “The Man”. Hard to turn on a brother when he is just hustling some paper. Jefferson’s reelection really shouldn’t be a surprise. Look at the UN. They were bullied around by a dictators government, the human aid program was embezzling money from starving Iraqis and their African Peace Keepers were gettin a little poon tang by force, but many voters seem to prefer them over America.

Oh yeah, FEMA. You are partially right here, this media and these politicians are something else. Did we really expect three different levels of government to efficiently operate, when the shear scale of the disaster, required local (read dirty) politicians to dole out sweat heart deals to “reliable” contractors/donors. Only an idealistic government loving liberal would think such a thing. Oh yeah, I forgot to include how smart liberals are for being so idealistic. One last thing, are there any Katrina stats on the wastes of private charities, whom were donated to by choice?

By Scooter

December 15, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

911, forgot to mention the IRA. It should have been said that at the current time, the vast majority of foreign, well organized groups of terrorists, consist of Muslims. It is also interesting how the terrorists are using our own political correctness, our biased providers of information, and our compassions against our country internaly, very very intersting. Those are powerful weapons to use on a sprouting social democracy like ours. Are the liberals not bright enough to see this happening?

By Jen

December 15, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

Jenn @ 12:59 PM

I know. I grew up there. AND, my husband used to work at one of those daiquiri stands while he was in college.

It’s not an open container until you put the straw in the lid!

I was always worried he’d get robbed at that place because it turns over a lot of cash each night. The one he worked at was a mom-and-pop facility and no one came by regularly to do cash-outs.

When we go home to visit family we usually drive through one of those. I love me a Bellini!

By CJ

December 15, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

Wooten: “Frantic talking heads whose commentary insisted that FEMA and other agencies were uncaring because they weren’t shoveling taxpayer money out fast enough? Compassionate conservatives? Haste and oversight don’t go together.

I disagree on this one. With regard to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, haste and oversight are part of the job description. With competent leadership, these two attributes have gone together effectively in the past and can go together again.

Wooten: “In Gaza gunmen, believed to be Hamas, ambushed and murdered the three young sons of a Palestinian security officer. The children were 3, 6 and 9. We show weakness or lack of resolve in this corner of the world at our peril.

I understand that facts tell and stories sell, but there’s no reason to extrapolate from this tragic event that all Palestinians are cold-blooded murderers. There are tragedies on and atrocities from both sides of the fence, and we’re never going make progress in the war on terror if we continue to ignore this reality.

Wooten: “Scandal-plagued Republicans step down from Congress. Ney, Ohio. DeLay, Texas. Foley, Florida. Democrat U.S. Rep. William Jefferson of New Orleans not only doesn’t, but is re-elected with 58 percent of the vote.

Oh yeah –- Ney, DeLay and Foley are pictures of integrity. The House changed the ethics rules so that it would be more difficult DeLay to launch an investigation against DeLay and so that he wouldn’t have to step down if he was indicted; Foley continued to terrorize teenage pages for years with impunity; Ney stepped down only after he was convicted. Hastert, on the other hand, is re-elected despite the Foley affair and despite the fact that he obviously used his position to enrich himself via an Illinois real estate deal. Jefferson is a crook to be sure – but like the other Republican crooks, he’ll hang on for as long as he possibly can before he’s finally incarcerated. As for the voters who re-elected him, I’m not sure they’ll be any worse off than the voters who re-elected Denny Hastert.

Wooten: “When my band of right-wingers take over, it’ll be made a crime to write about possible gubernatorial and presidential candidates in the next general election cycle until the results are final from the current one. And reporters and commentators are allowed in that two-year period to mention non-nominated candidates no more than 100 times. Them’s the rules. Write ‘em down.

I’m a liberal, but I’m with you on this one. I don’t want to hear another word about the 2008 elections until…2008.

By Jen

December 15, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

Oh, and as far as religious reasons for banning alcohol…if you’re Catholic or Jewish there are none. Neither one of those bans alcohol, both look down on the abuse of it. And the Jews have a different Sabbath than the Christians so which Sabbath are you going to choose IF the Jews did ban alcohol?

It’s easier just to sell the stuff and let people’s “personal responsibility” to their faith dictate their actions.

I can say the same thing about so very many laws…

By Dusty

December 15, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

This blog is too full of comedians trying to be funny. It is hardly worth five minutes of reading.

Drinking!! Blame it on Christians? My church could care less if you drink or buy alcohol on Sunday. Christ never mentioned booze or whether the wedding feast was on Sunday. He came for more important things. Go to church and find out.

Jim, don’t worry about the puppy. She has already been adopted, named and carried to a good home. This was probably a good move for the dog pound.

Republicans are not praying for the death of a Democratic senator. We are praying that Democrats will not resort to hate rhetoric and action like we see on this blog, more so at Luckovich’s. We are also praying for a broader vision by Americans for the good of this country. With that and as always, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

By Advisor

December 15, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

Gin & Ginn, Never use the toast chin chin in Japan. You’ll be referring to male genitals if you do.

A little friendly advice from your friendly Advisor.

By Lily Toad

December 15, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this

I support no gay marriage on Mondays, no abortions on Tuesday, no gun sales on Wednesday, no dildoes on Thursday, no Harry Potter books on Friday, no puppies in the courtroom on Saturday, and no head scarves on Sunday.

By MarkP

December 15, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this

By Jim W.:”Amazing how often a piece of ground is assigned human attributes.” Amazing how frequently — nearly daily — Mr. Wooten does the exact same thing to any locale that happens to contain people who disagree with him or where bad things have happened, nearly always that ground becomes the agent of The Left or Terrorists Aided by the Left and Other Surrender Monkeys. And in the case of Sunday liquor sales, while a majority of voters support Sunday liquor sales, the fact that the minority is still a “large number of voters” somehow factors in differently on this issue. I wish the same reasoning applied to the individual rights of gays wishing to marry.

By Jessie

December 15, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

JohnD (in various posts): “As a Christian conservative I believe… CAIR is a terrorist organization… The Muslims have been attacking Christians for 1,400 years… Are you saying you would allow the Muslims to kill your family because YOU are opposed to war?… Do you really think the secular hedonists will care?…you are just another anti-Christian… I assume because you went to government schools… the one thing that angers you the most about the first post was the part about being a Christian conservative… you just can’t stand that I am RIGHT.

I used to think that “time for the truth” was the biggest idiot on this blog, but in recent days a new contender has emerged – JohnD. Good luck with that “Christian” thing buddy.

If anybody is interested, here’s a link to CAIR’s website – the organization that JohnD indentified as terrorists (apparently the FBI hasn’t figured out what JohnD already knows):

http://www.cair-net.org

By TomJoad

December 15, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

You should be able to anticipate a desire for pork chops on Saturday, too. I say we ban their Sunday sales

By Curly Girl

December 15, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

Put your chin chin on my chinny chin chin - it’ll be like we both died and went to Heaven!

By Rich

December 15, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

Good god Wooten, you stored up a hornets nest for drunks. They neglect your first paragraph going to the last.

If you can’t think of it on Saturday your brain must be pickled.

Nothing sinister here people. It’s humor.

By cranky old man

December 15, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

Let them evolution-denyin’ Bible-thumpin’ inbreedin’ hillbilly crackers have their stinkin’ blue laws. Bein’ a member of the Georgia National Guard, I make it a point to go to military installations and buy tax-free booze on Sundays every chance I get. Them twelve months in Eye-rak was worth it. Yeehaa!

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

December 15, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

Georgians eating swine is proof of their barbarity - cannibals!

By Buy Danish

December 15, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

One of your bloggers made the asinine comment that “Unnecessary Government intrusions should be kept to the bare minimum. I don’t need the government micromanaging my store purchases,” yet this very blogger is known for rabid fulminations about teaching proper sex education and evolution in the schools.

Diogenenes,

You are a particularly obnoxious fruitcake, coward, and a stone-cold liar. I have just about had it with your baseless accusations, slander and abject stupidity.

You think objecting to this sort of pornographic propaganda is a “rabid fulmination”????CAUTION - contains vile, offensive material peddled to children.

The FACT is that this garbage ^^^is the one and only sex education topic I have ever commented on here or at MLs (or any blog on planet Earth). I defy you to find a post that will prove me wrong or prove you right.

I DARE YOU to tell me that this is the appropriate role of government. Don’t run away Dio! We want to hear you uncontrolled thoughts!

Doesn’t want the government in the stores, but having it control thought is another thing altogether. This is known throughout the world as demagoguery.

Just yesterday I said that I was NOT on the side of the woman who wants to ban Harry Potter, so let’s put a chapter in that myth to rest.

Secondly, here is the copy from the Cobb County evolution sticker that was banned:

Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. The material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered.

It seems to me that it is you and your Darwiniac acolytes who are “practising thought control” by banning a request to have an open mind.

Look what the New York Times had to say just last month!:

With a rough consensus that the grand stories of evolution by natural selection and the blossoming of the universe from the Big Bang are losing out in the intellectual marketplace, most of the discussion came down to strategy. How can science fight back without appearing to be just one more ideology?.

You know what that means Dio? It means that the consensus is that the theory that you have invested all your faith in has no legs.

Finally, since you habitually misuse the word demagogue I would advise you to stop using it until you grasp its meaning - if that day ever comes.

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

The live puppy needs to be in the courtroom. What’s the alternative? A Pillsbury dough-puppy shoved in an easy bake oven? (just not the same impact, and I’d have to vote not guide-doggly!)

somebody stop me

By catlady

December 15, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

Hey, I am thrilled that our legislators have decided it costs $173/day to stay in Atlanta! Of course, if it costs them that much, it also costs other state employees that much. So, as a teacher who has to go to conferences in Atlanta, I will expect not to have to sleep 4 to a room in a sleezy motel and pray for the motel to provide “breakfast” free, right? Because ALL state employees should have the same per diem. Sauce for the goose,…

By Georgia Rednecks Terrorize the World

December 15, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

Thank Gawd most of them are lazy drunken idiots that never leave their hometowns.

By MELO

December 15, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

“Political circumsized Foreskin” what a name

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

I’m declaring it officially miller time at 3:41 pm on friday, Dec. 15 2006. I would suggest Bud Light in the bottles.

A bottle of beer. I just love saying that.

By Political Foreskin

December 15, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

Glad you like the material Melo. Have a bottle of beer…..godilovesayingthat.

By Brenda

December 15, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this

Just think what those two boys who tortured and killed that puppy will do next time…to somebody’s family member most likely. If a human being can do that to something so helpless, be it pet animal or small child, they don’t deserve to be called “human” and they are a threat to society as we know it. My first choice would be to let some of us have them…second, lock them up and throw away the key. And for those who “hung” the jury, I have a suggestion for them too..

By Buy Danish

December 15, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

I want to acknowledge that I misread your post to Realist yesterday and mistakenly thought it was to @@.

I apologize for the error.

By getalife

December 15, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this

PF,

STFU.

Honestly.

You are the Terry Bradshaw of this blog.

Not funny.

Geez.

By Matt

December 15, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

If you don’t want to buy liquor on Sunday due to your religious beliefs, THEN DON’T BUY IT. I’m quite sure fire and brimstone won’t rain down simply because I need to buy a bottle of merlot to take to an unexpected dinner invite.

By GodHatesTrash

December 15, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Torturing and abusing animals is a long standing southernism, part of the culture of rape and murder that founded this great region. It makes southern men men, in this perverted animalistic chimp culture…

Vicious stupid trash.

By Typical Georgia Redneck

December 15, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

Last Sunday Rufus called me - he’d found a possum on the road that weren’t dead but a day or two. Thanks to people like Wooten we had to eat it without the PBRs. Crank and roadkill - it ain’t the same without beer.

By Get Real

December 15, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

While w and cheney are honoring losers (Rummy), Senators are taking over foreign policy.

w and cheney should resign in disgrace.

They have lost all credibilty and power.

I believe this is a first in American history.

By Typical Georgia Redneck

December 15, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

Let me tell you one damn thing it makes me wanna kill someone when I go into my local Citgo and the keg of ice with the beer singles floating in it is locked up. Damn.

By KP

December 15, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

Woohoo! The 2 boys were found not guily on all but one charge! I’ve always thought it stupid to be jailed for “animal cruelty”

Anyway, and you bible thumpers can take your blue laws and shove ‘em! I should be able to buy all legal to sale wares on ANY day!

By Jose

December 15, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

Gracias Georgia. Now we can all buy a beeeeg tall one and brown bag eeet on Sundays too.

Mi hermosa & keedz will be so pleezed.

Now where deeed I put my keys? Evreeeone eeen thee truck.

Adios…

By Jeff

December 15, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

To those that keep sayingn ‘separation of church and state’ in regards to Sunday Liquor Sales:

a) Show me where the phrase appears in the Constitution of the United States of America. A BILLION dollars to the first person that does!!!! (More on that in a second…)

b) If Sunday is truly no different than any other day, then I claim that neither is Saturday and that EVERY business should be open 7 days a week! How many of YOU want no days off other than whatever vacation/ sick days your company allows? Think about these things!!!

c) Back to the Constitution: The reason I can have no fears offering the Billion dollars??? THE PHRASE DIDN’T APPEAR IN OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATIONS UNTIL ROUGHLY 1808!!!! And even then, it was Jefferson declining to go celebrate Thanksgiving (maybe Christmas) with one particular church!

By getalife

December 15, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this

Happy Holidays from the Bushes

At least w could put that joint away.

Geez.

By jim

December 15, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

Oh grow up!

I don’t drink but I think lil’ ole parochial Georgia should get with it and vote yes on Sunday sales.

By Buy Danish

December 15, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

Sick&Tired,

I just saw this post where you were amazed that I opposed Sunday blue laws and disagreed with Wooten. This is hardly the first time and won’t be the last.

More important, it illustrates the fallacious view that the Left or so-called “moderates” have of Conservatives in general. While Fundamentalists are in the minority(and for all I know there may be Fundamentalists who do not oppose alcohol sales on Sundays) they are portrayed as dominating Christian thought. The truth is that most conservatives treasure liberty above all else.

Issues like abortion do not fit into the parameters of liberty because abortion involves another life and is therefore reasonably subject to constraint; Gay marriage is an attempt to re-write and re-define thousands of years of historical, societal and biological precedent, so opposing it is not antithetical to the premium a conservative places on liberty.

I also did not see this post from you yesterday until after closing time - By Sick&Tired - December 14, 2006 04:00 PM. Buy Danish - Ms. Mallory leans far more closely to your agenda, than she does with anything Moderate or Liberal.

That is baloney. Ms. Mallory does not speak for me or any of my conservative friends.

It is the Left who censor speech - whether it be the singing of Christmas carols, the myriad ways that the Marxist-ideology of Political-correctness works (particularly as it tries to bestow everyone but Christians with the non-existent “right” not to be “offended”), the outright shouting down of conservative speakers at American Universities, and …having a fit about evolution stickers that shockingly ask that a subject be approached “with an open mind”.

Self-described AJC “moderate”, Mike Luckovich, was opposed to printing the Danish cartoons because he thought it would “stick a finger in the eye of Muslims”. I favored publishing the cartoons, as did every single conservative that I know.

My desire was not to aggravate Muslims but to reveal the truth about how little it takes to offends them, and to educate Americans about what these cartoons that incited worldwide demonstrations of violence were all about. (Answer - a whole lot of nothing). Who is advocating censorship? Not me.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

December 15, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

Get, please stop with the pornographic links.

Oh, I’m sorry, that’s Babs’ face.

By RW-(the original)

December 15, 2006 06:06 PM | Link to this

catlady,

If you have to sleep four to a room in a sleazy motel and beg for food, you either aren’t being sent by your employer to a mandatory conference or you need to see about disbanding the teacher’s union.

By dave

December 16, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

With it being Chanukah and all….Do you think if I light a Chanukah Menorah in my window tonight up here in Dawsonville the KKK will come crawling out of the woods and firebomb my house (or at least burn a cross on my fromt lawn)?!?! How about us jews, can we buy Alcohol on Sundays? We can wear those arm bands like the Nazi’s had us wear in WWII. Then everyone (and the store owners) would know we are jews and we could buy alcohol on Sunday. We could buy it for you guys on your way out of church too! What do you think? Being a jew here in Georgia is only a few steps above Nazi germany anyway. I’m sure some of you inbred locals want to march homosexuals and now mexicans off to the gas chambers with me and my family! I love the christmas display at my son’s school and the bigger one at the local court house! My tax dollars at work! Buying and displaying christian symbols! But I can’t go buy a six pack or a bottle of wine tomorrow?!?!?

By Dave

December 16, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

I hope all of you who favor no liquor sales on Sunday comply with the real meaning of what some expect that is don’t drink on Sunday if you do you are a hypocrite. Maybe it is time for those who want no drinking on Sunday to also picket the Catholic church they actually serve wine on Sunday in church the heathens. We all know Jesus did not really turn water into wine the real story was he turned wine into water.

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

and you turned blogging into p**

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

The new Beatles mix-cd is better than the original recordings. New beatle music folks. There are some misses, but overall, this cd is going to get worn out. A+

Once again, it must be said that John Lennon was the greatest genius since Mozart. Not just compostition but performance. No one can touch lennon’s voice, appearance, act, writing, lyrics, melody, beat, tone, projection, influence and cool, man, cool.

But this is the reality we live in: Pluto gets downgraded by astronomers. Earth becomes the planet MEDIOCRITY by Lennon’s assassin, who bestowed his own dull sense of existence on us all. If you’re looking for justice or peace, dont expect to find it here.

The Saudis were supposed to be the cooler heads that were supposed to prevail as mentioned in the discussion W had with his advisers before we invaded iraq.

The Saudis just blinked.

The Saudis emerged last week like a tasmanian chick from it’s islamo-volcanic shell spewing raw egg on the face of the earth. We actually have very little time left. “Cooler heads will prevail”. When Kennedy heard the joint chiefs say that, he nixed the invasion of cuba and saved the world. When Bush heard that he vogued self-righteousness and heeded the word of the little god in his head.

And a child shall lead them………

By Brian B

December 16, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

Its pretty sad what passes for conservative thinking now a days. Come up with a few cute names (Iraq Surrender Group), throw out an insult or two (Implying that anyone that wants to buy a 12 pack of beer on Sunday is an alcoholic) and suddenly you’re on George Will’s Christmas card list.

By Evangelicals LOVE Children Biblically

December 16, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

DENVER (Reuters) - A second Colorado evangelical leader in little over a month has resigned from the pulpit over a scandal involving gay sex, church officials said on Tuesday.

Paul Barnes has resigned from the 2,100-member Grace Chapel, a church he founded in suburban Denver, said church spokeswoman Michelle Ames.

Ames said Barnes told his congregation in a videotaped message on Sunday he had “struggled with homosexuality since he was five years old.”

Barnes was confronted by an associate pastor of the church who received an anonymous phone call from a person who heard someone was threatening to go public with the names of Barnes and other evangelical leaders who engaged in homosexual behavior, Ames said.

Barnes, who is married with two grown daughters, then confessed to church elders.

If anybody thought that Ted Haggard or Warren Jeffs were anomalies, they should think again.

Evangelical Christians are mostly sick perverted child rapists. They “act” religious in order to hide their true nature from decent society so that they can stalk their victims from under the cover of church sponsership.

REAL Christians “Let Go, and Let God handle the world’s problems. False Christians involve themselves in politics and secular matters. The louder the pseudo-conservative rantings of the evangelical fakes are, the more you can be sure that they are part of the phoney, sick, kiddie-raping pervert population that makes up such a large part of evangelical society these days.

By JohnD

December 16, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

Had to leave early yesterday but now I see…

getalife, sct and Jesse have made medical history. They are Siamese triplets sharing one underdeveloped brain.

I will waste no more time in discussion with people as unintelligent as you three. “Liberal Without Brains”, perhaps that is another suck the money from the successful opportunity for you. Write your congressmen and ask for a new tax to support your laughable literary efforts.

By Evangelicals are Closet Atheists

December 16, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

When you make laws about drinking, sex, and shopping on Sunday, you are really saying that you don’t believe God is in charge, he is not omnipotent, doesn’t know what he is doing in running the universe, and that he needs man to make laws to enforce right living because God must not be in control to begin with. Evangelicals are just another form of closet atheist.

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Good one, John D. you got those “see no moron pretender monkeys” dead on, spot on, and right on.

My politics used to be somewhere left of the bush-bashing lunatic fringe. Now I’m definately in the center, with tax cuts and strong defense my platform.

We’re gonna need it.

By Mallory

December 16, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this

J.Wooten, Your readers can’t get past their religious bashes can they? A party is a party and Jesus was at one.

Who noticed that little detail?

My heavens stodgy and stuffy Jesus was at a party having a good time. If the wedding party was drunk already they didn’t know the difference when he gave them water. He just wanted them to continue with the celebrations but in moderation. There’s nothing like a drunken brawl. That’ll take the fun right out of a party.

Jews always watered down their wine. Two parts water to one part wine.

It’s about helping the weak; the alcoholics; their families.

We’re the only creatures that over indulge. We shouldn’t take more than we need. We shouldn’t exhaust our resources. We should replace what we use. We should be responsible.

Liberals! They sure don’t practice what THEY preach do they Wooten? Hug a tree, save a whale, a frog, a salamander, a turtle, a spotted owl and screw the alcoholic and their family.

It’s one freaking day for crying out loud. Leave it like it is. Who’ll be hurt unless, of course, you want to demonize a Christian or sacrifice an alcoholic.

Selfish liberals. Six days a week you have choices. One day a week you don’t. Big deal.

By dave

December 16, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

Gee, another church camp leader was arrested…how shocking!!!! There is nothing more hypocritical than a Southern Babtist! They hate Jews, Mexicans, Gays…etc… It should actually be called the church of “hate”. When the SB’s were lynching negros in the 20’s - 60’s they were real “people of god”. Now they have gone on to once again discriminate (this time Gays and Latinos). There is nothing in my eyes lower then an evangelical christian. They preach HATE. They feel this country is their own, and belongs to nobody else but their own kind. I’ve lived here in the south long enough to see it with my own 2 eyes. They say there is an immigration problem, but have no problem hiring them to work for cheaper then a US citizen. They like that homes are cheap here, (want a painter…hire a mexican) why…..because of the illegals keeping the cost down!. They say you can’t buy booze on Sunday at Kroger, but it’s Ok to drink and drive home from a resturaunt. They say no to gay marrige, but the preachers have gay sex….(even on Sunday)! That is why Georgia is laughed at and behind the rest of the nation in education, health (fitness actually), and number 3 in foreclosures….they are the church of irony. But the sad thing is…it’s not funny…it’s actually quite sad….sorry no proof reading here…take my grammer and spelling mistake as they come! is that they truly believe in their hearts that they are good people….even though they preach so much hatred!

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

Mallory,

????????

Here’s a true story about drunken elephants.

Here are some animals who got around the Sunday blue laws. They should have listened to Jim Wooten!

By GodHatesTrash

December 16, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

These damnable fundamentalists need to be ready - they are going to spend Eternity on a fiery spit slow roasting in HELL.

God hates trash, especially hypocritical trash.

By dave

December 16, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

Mallory- “Jews always watered down their wine. Two parts water to one part wine”. You are EXACTLY what I am talking about above. You preach hate agains jews. Well, I’m a Jew. We don’t water down our wine! When my wife first went to college, her roomate asked her what church she belonged to. She told her she was Jewish. The girl asked her where she hid her horns! She actually said that! She really believed, and was told by her “pastor” here in Georgia, that Jews have horns (and are the devil). This was at an Ivy League school in Boston. The girl from Georgia was smart enough to get into an Ivy League school, but still believed that Jews had horns!?!?! Where did she learn that?….Here in Georgia! The NAZI state!

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

Of course Mallory would trivialize the importance of miller time on sundays with the word Choice. Just like her ilk trivializes and justifies abortion with the same idiotic word.

Choice? Oh really? Then I choose to outlaw all everything female.

How does it feel? How do you like it? I just chose. Too bad for you. I chose, so I win the debate. Choice. Choice. Choose. Choose. Choice.

I said choice first, (no backs, no vice versa, no changies).

Naa naana naa naa

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this

My wife howled at that link, BD.

By GodHatesTrash

December 16, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

Fundamentalism is a mental disorder, a mixture of paranoia and mental retardation.

God, these Georgia inbreds are moronic.

By Diogenes

December 16, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

Jim,

At our age, we’ve seen how difficult it is for men to be ethical and/or moral, and how hard it is for most men to live under tight constraints. It surprises Diogenes how rigid and unforgiving you’ve become despite the experiences age has given you proving the importance of forgiveness and tolerance.

Ted Haggard disappeared quickly from the news when holy men from his church took him under their wing to pray the homosexual tendencies out of him. Doesn’t sound to me like there’s much tolerance nor forgiveness involved there, just another inquisition. Now another evangelical has fallen and the non-religious quickly take sides to smirk and point fingers.

Religion began as a way to make the unknown less fearful and to weld the unity of the tribe. Deviation from the norm is a strike against tribal unity. My guess is that we shall see another inquistion a la Ted Haggard. Deviation is the most fearful thing a religion can face because the deviant may learn the truth, that religion is merely the way to insure conformity.

The failing of another mortal does not give the non-religious (Diogenes is one of these) the privilege of condemning religion on the grounds of one man’s failure. If we are to condemn religion, it is on the grounds of its general failure to mankind. One of religion’s most important prophets said, “love thy neighbor as thyself,” and “do unto others as you have them do unto you.” When religion fails these two tenets, then it opens itself to criticism. Let us watch to see how this man’s brethren react: 1)like Haggard’s to insure conformity; 2) with forgiveness and understanding; 3) with contempt and exclusion.

By Mallory

December 16, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Danish, Your links were hysterically funny. Too many elephants not enough booze. Too much environmental interference wreaks havoc.

I noticed the cat sprawled out on the sofa. See, over endulgence opens you up for unprotected sex.

I’m laughing so hard I’ve got tears in my eyes.

It’s the principle I’m standing on. I really don’t care whether liquor is sold on Sunday. I’m just tired of the constant attacks on all things Christian. I’m taking a stand. It’s one freaking day. Wooten said buy it on Saturdays and drink it on Sunday.

Political Foreskin, I chose to ignore your juvenile posts with our last encounter IDIOT.

Move on chump.

By dave

December 16, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Mallory, You are a racist and just another hate filled Southern Babtist. That’s why the South lost the war the first time, and is losing in this country again. The rest of this nation hates racists, and though Georgia voted GOP, there’s a reason why the rest of the country voted Liberal. We’ve had enough of your evangelical bullsh*t. Nothing but hate and discrimination. Hey…let me ask you…how many straight men in Mass. have married homo’s? None!!!! A law does not make people become gay…they are BORN that way…ask Ted Haggard! (that’s right gay marrige will allow your husbands and sons to become……oh my God…. Married Queeers)!!!!…though have you checked you husband’s closet for gay porn?!?! He certainly could not be having a GOOD time with a puritan like you……Swallow? i know HE does! he just left and forgot to wipe off his mouth!

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Diogenes,

You singlehandedly exemplify the term “deviation from the norm.”

The fact is that the only harsh words that I’ve heard about Rev. Haggard have come from the Left, so if there’s an inquisition going on I suggest you frisk your fellow tribe members.

By Dusty

December 16, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I loved your elephant piece (‘cept for the stepping on the locals part). This is the time for me to write National Wildlife Federation.

Elephant Rice Wine Anonymous should be started immediately. I mean, how would you like an elephant sharing YOUR rice wine?

Manichevitz cherry cream is the answer. Once an elephant tastes this delectable treat, they will never want rice wine again. Send donations ASAP.

By Mallory

December 16, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

dave, Are you insane? Where did you see anti-semitism in my comment?

Read it again. You missed out on the “ed” at the end of my water moron.

Past tense, biblical times.

Research it. Get “ed”ucated.

By dave

December 16, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, Why doesn’t the neocons like you publish or mention Harrad anymore?!?! Because you won’t acknowlege that being gay is a “born’ thing! This man preached hatred towards gays yet was to busy sucking C*k to tell the truth! He should leave his wife and live as he truly is…a gay man…and enjoy it. At the end…we all go one place..into the dirt….blackness and nothing…that’d all. Enjoy your life while you’re here,. Don’t hate. Don’t discriminate (though you do). Faux news doesn’t talk about your boy anymore because they can’t put hiom on a pedistal for “moral values” anymore. Is he moral? Yeah…only when he fesses up yo licking dik! Enough already…hey your pastor just called me and we have a date!…though i’m not gay, I wouldn’t throw him under the bus because he is…and TRUST me…he is!

By dave

December 16, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

opps, i guess i should proof my blogs…my jewish wife would be soooo mad at me. i type slower than my brain works….but then again….most born, and raised, southern babtists finish high school with the same level of education we had when we finished 6th grade up north (trust me i know…my son goes to school here)! it’s so sad the level of schooling he receives!

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

Mallory,

To say that Dave is insane could be an understatement. I love the way he is blaming his son’s illiteracy on the school system. I think its more a case of the nut, er, acorn not falling far from the tree.

Dusty,

Be careful when you mention Manichevitz. Raving Dave will claim you are an anti-Semite.

By Mallory

December 16, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

dave The Drunken Boor, About the rest of your comment to me at 12:04.

Put a lid on it. You’re into the hooch on Saturday. Great!

I don’t have to tolerate your drunken, ignorant display. Your lack of education. Your foul mouth and your hateful intolerance.

I can choose to ignore you. Just don’t beat the hell out of your kids. If I get to sit on the jury that convicts you I’ll do my best to deny your right to ever do it again.

By Dusty

December 16, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

Dave,

What a shame we have to keep you festering away in the South. But Southerners like to keep folks happy. Let’s hope you make it home for Christmas up in the frozen north. Stay awhile. A long while.

While you are there, try to study a bit and make it to the sixth grade. Judging from your posts and your self control, you should be in elementary school.

Leave your bigotry up north. Southerners got over that a long time ago. Time for you northerners to catch up.

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

Hey Dave,

Here’s something else for you to RAVE about.

Christmas Brought to Iraq by Force.

I can’t say that I exactly “look forward” to you comments, but I am interested in your response.

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

Dusty and Mallory,

I posted this story for Raving Dave, but I think you should read it too. Be sure to click on the photos to enlarge the shocking images.

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

Okay, reality check on Palestine.

Hamas vs Fatah. Abbas=Fatah Mashaal=Hamas Dahlan=Fatah

Hey palestinians: Pick a vowel sound and stick with it. (retards).

Anyway, this whole X-mas controversy: remember when it was just one fat lady from Iowa in the fifties who tried to stop Christmas? Then we found out that same fat lady was the one who tried to stop little league baseball.

Now everyone’s in the act.

If Baker is a surrender monkey then this must be the planet of the apes, man.

By Kevin

December 16, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

So-called Christian Conservatives advocate and/or vote for State and U.S. Constitutional Amendments to restrict a Church’s ability to marry gays. So-called Christian Conservatives want to maintain the ability for employer’s to fire a person because of his or her sexual orientation while, justifiably, arguing against allowing an employer the freedom to fire a person because he or she is a Christian - a characteristic that a person actually chooses. So-called Christian Conservatives would have a hero kicked out of the military because of his or her sexual orientation. Despite these public policy positions, these same “Christian Conservatives” have the gall to call liberals intolerant and refer to themselves as persecuted.

These people aren’t conservative, and they’re not Christian. If the devil walks the Earth, he dwells in the hearts of these hate-filled bigots.

By dave

December 16, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

actually, my son is number 1 in his class. If he WAS up north he’d actually be in the bottom 50%. You still won’t answer for as to why Georgia is at the BOTTOM! And you still won’t answer as to why you are all racists. You have substituded mexicans and gays for negros. But…hey we yankees are moving here so fast, soon …just like we did to Florida…you will be the minority, and the north has won for a 2nd time. get over the civil war…you lost….get over religion and YOUR activist judges running the courts….oh….BTW…wheres’ you WMD’s? Have you signed up…or had your kids enlisted yet? probably not….hypocrates true and true!

By Dusty

December 16, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

Ah, Buy Danish,

Anyone who discriminates against those who love Manichevitz probably do not even like FRUITCAKE. Now that is the lowest form of humanity.

As Marie Antoinette said “Give them fruitcake.”. I’m sure she meant Manichevitz with it. What fools to chop off her head.

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

PoFo,

Is this you? The “humor” is about up to your standards, although I picture you dressed up as Mrs. Claus.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

From the department of unnecessary information comes Diogenes. Just like nobody had to be told that Justin Timberlake was gay, nobody needed to be told that Dio was non-religious. Some things are just too obvious.

Moving on the reading “skills” of liberals. This morning we have several comments talking about all the conservatives here that don’t want Sunday liquor sales. If anybody actually read the blog and could comprehend what they read, they would see that Jim Wooten is about the only one here that sees a need for that restriction.

By Dusty

December 16, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Now you’ve done it. Dave and Kevin will believe that story about Christmas in Iraq. Everybody ready for tirades #3,4,&5?

PoFo,

Take that ‘monkey surrender” line to the Zoo. You have used it too many times here.

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Great stuff BD. My wife is pressuring me to blog some of her jokes. She was the “Pillsbury Dough-Puppy in an Easy Bake Oven” blog yesterday.

Today she’s got this: If they made a movie out of the 40-year-long weird and creepy gay relationship between Cheney and Rummy, would it be called Broke-Iraq Mountin’

She’s goes way out there, eh?

By getalife

December 16, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

My goodness, what a mess.

We have “freelance diplomacy” going on outraging the wingnuts, calling for enforcement of the Logan Act.

Congress is setting up for major oversight and w and cheney are honoring the failed Rummy.

In case you have not noticed, change is coming and not a moment too soon. This is very good news for our country but the poor wingnuts heads are exploding.

Karma.

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

Well I never…!

By getalife

December 16, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

Sorry to hear about that PF, being married and all.

STFU and let your wife blog.

She is funnier than you.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon all. We suffer moonbat rage today, don’t we?

Dear Dave, you have been spewing hate all day. You need to spend more of your Sabbath at the synagogue, to get past these bitter feelings. You claim Judaism, but much of your writing reflects ignorance of your neighbors. Every Southern Jew knows that Israel’s best friends are those white Alabama Baptists you condemned all morning. While those Baptists are sometimes crass in their language, you are more likely to hear praise for “them Jew boys kicking terrorist a**,” than any harsh language about our Jewish brothers’ faith.

Dear Kevin @ 1:31, you need to remove the log from your own eye before you condemn others with an unsightly splinter. Everything you wrote insists that your bizarre beliefs should overrule the individual judgments of others. How do you differ from a Nazi? Take a deep breath. The conservatives (you condemn) do not attempt to outlaw anything; they attempt to write constitutional protections to prevent Nazis from taking away private freedom and judgment.

In the specific example you cite (where you would compel military to embrace homosexuality) you would place vulnerable recruits in a position where they are obliged to perform sexually or suffer; the same problem exists with the coed military. You blame conservatives for attempting to remove sexuality from the military workplace, when that is the obvious solution to the problem. The Clintonian compromise - don’t ask, don’t tell - is a workable resolution, as it accomplishes the same goal. Those of you preoccupied with homosexuality need to get a life; there is much more of interest and value in the world than your private parts.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Dear PF, funny stuff all day, my compliments. Dear Dusty, cute link.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

Apologies, Danish. I credited our friend Dusty for your post.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this

Dear Diogenes @ 11:36, I think you and I see different origins for religion. I perceive the original purpose of organized religion was to create a system of ethics, to facilitate the growing socialization of the cultures. While thare remain some religions with no pretense of explaining the order of the world, all religions offer ethical systems. (Unless you are defining Taoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism as non-religions, in which case my point is moot.) I think the purpose of religion was not to “ease fear,” but was to facilitate interaction.

One’s interpretation is likely to be controlled by whether one views religion as a mere supersitition, or as the path to the triumph of goodness.

By dave

December 16, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

No jbm law, I don’t care how much those alabama or georgia babtists “think” they love isreal or jews. All i have to do is go to walmart in here in dawsonville and see their hatred for jews and mexicans (and gays) with my own 2 eyes, i just got back from walmart in dawsonville and when they wished me a merry x-mas, i wished the girl a happy chanukka. she looked at me with confused eyes and asked me what that meant?!?!?! i told her i was jewish and wished her a happy chaunukka and she asked me if i was the “devil”!!!!! i swear it’s true! she told me she never met a jew before and asked me if i would accept jesus into my life….know whay i said??!?! it’s time the ACLU showed her and dawsonveille and walmart what a jew is…..happy chaunukkah jbmlaw….perhaps you can represent dawsonville! whay a bunch of kkk racists they are up here!

Quote: With it being Chanukah and all….Do you think if I light a Chanukah Menorah in my window tonight up here in Dawsonville the KKK will come crawling out of the woods and firebomb my house (or at least burn a cross on my fromt lawn)?!?! How about us jews, can we buy Alcohol on Sundays? We can wear those arm bands like the Nazi’s had us wear in WWII. Then everyone (and the store owners) would know we are jews and we could buy alcohol on Sunday. We could buy it for you guys on your way out of church too! What do you think? Being a jew here in Georgia is only a few steps above Nazi germany anyway. I’m sure some of you inbred locals want to march homosexuals and now mexicans off to the gas chambers with me and my family! I love the christmas display at my son’s school and the bigger one at the local court house! My tax dollars at work! Buying and displaying christian symbols! But I can’t go buy a six pack or a bottle of wine tomorrow?!?!?

no spell check or grammer check…i’m sure it’s all bad…too pssd off to check!

By Dusty

December 16, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

Aww jbmlaw,

My head was getting all puffy thinking I rated right along with PoFo. (Whatever honor that is!)

But the honor goes to Buy Danish for the charming link. I bow in defeat and dejection.

I think Gen. McArthur made a remark on retreat suitable for this spot, but I forget what it is. Oh, to be a lawyer and have perfect memory.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Dear Dave @ 2:47, I do not deny that there are almost certainly a few Georgians or Alabamans who hate Jewish people. I also admit that I am unlikely to feel their wrath, although such people hate more than Jewish people only. And we do not penalize for spelling.

I affirm in the strongest language that I can that you are guilty of prejudice. While you suffered an unpleasant experience with an uninformed individual, you are lumping Billy Graham and Jimmy Carter in with those you condemn with such a broad brush, and that is not rational.

As to your specific question, I don’t think the KKK even exists anymore. Happy Chanuka, and long life to you and yours. May your lights burn forever.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

Dear Dusty, you are never defeated, only occasionally frustrated or slowed by obstacles placed by your enemies. I admit that my 20-second attention span embarrasses me regularly, and I apologize to you also for any distress from my post.

By No private parts?????

December 16, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

Political Foreskin?jbmlaw likes his stupid jokes?

HAHAHAHAHAHOHummmmmmmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Get real jbm. The guy stinks. Everybody knows it.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You would only share a stage with Polly Prepuce in an American Idol early season show manner.

You would be the one that comes out of the audition room with a gold ticket to Hollywood while Polly would be the one that no one can figure who told this poor fellow he had any talent. (Of course in this case we know it’s jbmlaw perpetuating the myth)

By Dusty

December 16, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

Dave,

Save your insults.

I can’t see much difference in you calling Southerners KKKs and the confused girl at Walmart asking you about devils.

One is just as insulting as the other. Yours was intentional. I don’t think hers was meant to be. BOTH showed the obvious signs of ignorance.

By dave

December 16, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

Well, jbmlaw…. sorry to burst your bubble but the kkk is alive and well up here in dawsonveill. My wife and i were at the local Kroger and found some of the hate mail on our windshield…actually all the windshields0 in the parking lot not more then4 months ago. it said something to the following….”all you n**** loving, jew loving, people let your pure chritian white daughters watch the “jew owned mtv”. mtv shows those n**** bumping and grinding our pure daughters and foul thier minds with this n**** thumping music. the jews conspire to let the n**** rape and molest our daughters so they can be the only white race left to further their control over our money and their conspiracy to control the world”…this is not made up. I gave it the anti def. league to follow up on. trust me… the kkk is alive and well here in GA. They just don’t call themselves that anymore…something like the Christian brotherhood….note the word “christian”

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

I’m not sure which post of mine you enjoyed. If it was the Santa Claus “comic”, that was meant to be an example of something which is not funny.

As far as I can see there are exactly 3 people who think PoFo is funny: PoFo, you, and Wooten. That’s quite a small fan club.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

Dear NPP @ 3:03, at risk of invoking the most obscene word found on this blog, I am pretty liberal! PF and harold and the oft-condemned TFTT amuse me - I see great humor in their writings, to borrow Gilbert’s line, “beauty in the bellow of the blast.” A well-honed sense of the ridiculous always wins my admiration. Perhaps I am easily amused.

By Kevin

December 16, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw wrote that “The conservatives (you condemn) do not attempt to outlaw anything”. Unless jbmlaw has been living in a cave for the past several years, jbmlaw is an unabashed liar. Here, yet again, is what the “conservatives” want to (or have agreed to) outlaw:

— Individual churches from having the freedom to make their own decisions as to whether they will recognize and/or marry gay couples.

— Gays from serving in the military (unless the person doesn’t tell anybody that he or she is gay).

— Employers from having the freedom to fire people because they are Christian. (I agree with this position, but these same “conservatives” think its okay to fire people because of their sexual orientation.)

Therefore jbmlaw, you insist that your bizarre beliefs should overrule the individual judgments of others. How do you differ from the Nazis? Take a deep breath. The “conservatives” I condemn attempt to outlaw plenty; you attempt to write constitutional protections (or ignore them) to take away private freedom and judgment. Here are more examples:

— Insist that children be indoctrinated by including the words “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance.

— Argue for teacher-led monotheistic prayer in the public schools (further indoctrinating other people’s kids).

Are you so-called Christian conservatives so insecure about your belief system that you have to use the power of government to indoctrinate our children?

With regard to your comments about the military’s don’t ask, don’t tell policies — militaries all over the world allow gay men and women to serve openly without problems. Is it that you don’t think the men and women who serve in our armed forces are as capable of the kind of maturity found among troops in other parts of the world? In fact, that’s not what you think at all. This “don’t ask-don’t tell” policy is in place, in part, because of the insistence of “Christian conservatives” that the armed forces enforce your bigotry against men and women who serve honorably.

This comment you made is a perfect example of the bigotry of which I speak: (“…you would place vulnerable recruits in a position where they are obliged to perform sexually or suffer”)

You “Christian conservatives” preoccupied with homosexuality need to get a life; there is much more of interest and value in the world than your private parts.

By dave

December 16, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

dusty, not all southeners are in the kkk, but they are out here.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

Dear Dave @ 3:09, I respectfully suggest that one idiot with a printer hooked up to his computer does not constitute a movement. Nor does the existence of one idiiot justify condemning all he claims to represent. I suspect you are right about shifting names - we have a long tradition in the country of imbeciles believing their foolish ideas merely need to be sold better, refusing to accept popular rejection of their core beliefs. Your Dawsonville nutjob is alone in the world. Does not mean he is not dangerous, but my practice has always been to confront evil, not yield to it. Do you own a gun? (Don’t answer - just get one.) You should assume you are the only person who will take care of you; the world would be far better if we all carried that assumption.

By Lenny

December 16, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

Your bullshat is well written, but it’s bullshat just the same.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

Dear Kevin, you argue with lies. I will address your claims serially.

(1) No law or referendum prohibits any church from blessing any marriage of its choice. There are many laws and referendums wherein the government does not recognize so-called marriages between two or more of same sex. Your affirmation about any effort to restrict a church is false.

(2) Gays have no right to serve in the military, nor should people preoccupied with sexuality be so-serving, whether heterosexual or homosexual. “Don’t ask, don’t tell” removes both; violation gets heterosexuals expelled too.

(3) The civil rights act of 1965 admittedly prohibits employment discrimination with regard to sex, age, religion, creed, and national origin. You clearly disagree with Getalife; he claims conservatives oppose CRA 1965.

(4) Far from indoctrinating children, my “ilk” would abolish government schools entirely, so there is no government indroctination at all. Why do you insist on your right to indoctrinate my child according to your beliefs?

(4) We agree that you would forbid any discussion of G_d in schools. I admit that your success in expelling religion from schools has occasionally led to some “moderates” - people with no real beliefs at all - attempts to draft nondenominational prayers, which are an insult to believers. I would prefer a system where each child was “preacher for a day,” leading the class in a moment of meditation or reflection according to his own beliefs. Why shouldn’t we all understand how our brothers believe?

In truth, you hedonists are the ones who fear losing control. You will not allow vouchers - the simple solution to the parent who wishes to rear his child with a sense of right and wrong. No, you leftist insist on removing all parental influence for not less than 8 hours per day - more than half the waking day for most kids, and all of the productive learning hours - and not less than 180 days per uear. There is almost certainly an evil contolling Nazi at work here, but it is not the people who object to the way their children are trained.

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

jmblaw,

Um, I don’t think Dave is the sort of person who should be carrying a gun. He is too much of a loose cannon.

Dave,

You don’t need a gun. You need a doctor.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Thanks Lenny, your writing proves you are well-qualified to so-opine.

By Jessie

December 16, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this

Lenny and Kevin,

This guy (jbmlaw) claims to be a lawyer. He comes to this blog daily to rehearse and refine his BS. Fortunately, most can see through his fancy phrasing to find that he’ll twist, turn and contradict himself as needed to defend his defenseless and bizarre ideas. Despite his protests to the contrary, he’s no more libertarian than Stalin, no more conservative than Castro and no more Christian than David Duke.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this

Kevin,

That’s a ridiculous laundry list of charges you have there.

Open the Church of Kevin and marry anyone you want. It won’t be recognized by the state, but that doesn’t mean you can’t do it and do it in your very own church.

It seems to me that “don’t ask, don’t tell” came into existence under Clinton.

There is no serious movement to make it legal to fire gays just for being gay, but it’s already legal to fire someone for about anything.

There is no movement to shield Christians from being fired.

Under God has been in the pledge since 1954 or there abouts. Get a legislator to introduce a bill taking it out. It’s absurd to say that conservatives are all that stands in the way of you getting rid of that or any portion of the pledge. It’s already optional and nobody is trying to make it mandatory.

Would you point me to the bill # that mandates teacher led prayers in public schools. If it’s such a popular conservative objective you would think I would have heard of it.

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

hard to get happy after reading the last batch of comments directed at me!! Every one of them!!

You all cut me to the quick. I was the only one who was supposed to be funny and now JBM says that tftt is funny too…(sniff, sob, chortle cry)……I love chewing gum……I think liberals should boycott tuna……

Now, to get even, just what would happen if I confine my blogs to View from the Cop, Woman to Woman, Political Insider and the Panda Watch blog?

Do you really think anyone would read you yellow(snow) journalists if I leave? (Except yourself of course).

The last ten comments are a capsule of the wooten blog: trolls posting in tandem to themselves. There’s only a handfull of you entertaining superstars and you are your own audience.

There’s only one way that I will stay: You five uber-journalists must post this: “I was a dirty bird, Political Foreskin is not grungy, he’s beyayatchin’”

Otherwise I rat you out to the AJC for the trouble making trolls you truly are, and I hop on over to View from the Cop.

By Dusty

December 16, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

Dave,

I am sorry about your experience in Dawsonville. But there is something you should realize. KKK activity in the South is about as popular as terrorism. Both are hate groups and neither flourish here.

As jbmlaw said, you are becoming prejudiced yourself. Don’t let yourself fall into such a decimating level as that. Most Southern Jews that I know are busy contributing to society. They don’t waste time on the insufferable effort of producing hate to match hate.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

Dear Jesse, some of us argue ideas, and some of us just call names. On any given day, there is a lot of “you mama’s so fat” stuff on the blog, and stuff such as your 3:38 note is wholly appropriate for that thread. You should not pretend that such name-calling is the same as substantial thought, however. Lenny did not post anything of substance, but Kevin did compose an intelligent argument; don’t distract him with garbage.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

Dear PF, I am certain you cite me as an offender. “I was a dirty bird, Political Foreskin is not grungy, he’s beyayatchin’”

By getalife

December 16, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

PF,

The laughoff in Little Five Points called, they want their twenty bucks back.

By TommyT

December 16, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

God Hates Trash: You seem to know alot about what God thinks, in fact much more than I’ve ever been privy to, and I was kind of wondering how He shares this information with you.

Do the Blessed and Pure Angels of Heaven descend from above to the sound of blissful, golden trumpets to proclaim these thoughts to you:

Fundamentalism is a mental disorder, a mixture of paranoia and mental retardation. God, these Georgia inbreds are moronic.

Maybe you’ve seen some burning bushes or have some stone tablets?

Perhaps the neighbor’s dog is speaking to you?

Either way, I’d like to know, the message you preach is noticeably different than anything I’ve ever found in the Bible.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this

Polly Prepuce,

You already have the answer to your question of what would happen if you moved your drivel elsewhere. The conservatives left the luckovich blog, for the most part, and despite your constant presence there, it’s become a ghost town.

Don’t take that as an invitation to leave, I’d much rather know where you are than have you sneaking around. How was “rooster” night at the Star Bar, btw?

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

Re your 3:48, please advise what was “intelligent” about Kevin’s “argument”.

Is there anything “substantive” left that RW hasn’t already dealt with?

By Kevin

December 16, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

More BS from jbmlaw:

— “violation [of don’t ask-don’t tell]gets heterosexuals expelled too.” This is a lie.

— “No law or referendum prohibits any church from blessing any marriage of its choice.” True, but you deliberately mislead by ignoring the fact that “conservatives” seek to pass an amendment to the U.S. Constitution that does exactly that.

— “You clearly disagree with Getalife; he claims conservatives oppose [Civil Rights Act of] 1965.” Take it up with Getalife. So-called Christian conservatives support laws preventing employers from firing people because of their professed “Christian” faith, despite your “private freedom” rhetoric. These are good laws, but spare us the “conservatives believe in private freedoms” crap. You do when its convenient, and you don’t when its not.

— “my “ilk” would abolish government schools entirely” First, I never used the word “ilk”. Second, I believe you would eliminate “government” schools. Until then, “Christian conservatives” will indoctrinate mine despite your “private freedoms” BS.

— Why do you insist on your right to indoctrinate my child according to your beliefs? Assuming this statement is correct (it isn’t), I’m not the one running around claiming to be a “conservative”. You’re the so-called conservative — you tell me.

— “…you leftist insist on removing all parental influence for not less than 8 hours per day - more than half the waking day for most kids” Nice attempt to change the subject. This has nothing to do with the fact that you’re a hater who uses the government to enforce your bigotry.

— “You will not allow vouchers - the simple solution to the parent who wishes to rear his child with a sense of right and wrong.” Again, stop changing the subject hater.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this

Dear Kevin, intellectually honesty compels me to offer an argument, from your perspective, to explain all of the “marriage definition” laws that cause you such distress. As with everything else, it is all about the money.

What is the largest threat to the health insurance system today? (No, not Hillary.) AIDs. AIDs is nearly exclusively a disease of males homosexuals. If you were a clever health insurance company, how would you avoid covering that horrifically expensive disease? You would find a way to exclude homosexuals from coverage.

Thus the dynamic; the overwhelming volume of insurance policies are through employers. Employers find ways to cover heterosexual, i.e., low risk, partnerships as an employee benefit. However, as loss experience is a large factor in the employer’s insurance premium, the system grants a strong incentive to eliminate high risk employees.

The long tradition of health insurance in this country has been to pool the risk, to share the overall expense roughly equally. Because AIDs is a specific behavior-related disease, and the related behavior is widely unpopular in society, there is a push-back, an attitude of “you don’t deserve…”

Unpleasant. I understand both views. I don’t have a solution.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

Dear Kevin @ 4:04, you err on each point. I propose to eliminate the government from every transaction in life; you are the one who wants to use the tools of government to compel obedience to your beliefs.

Dear Danish @ 4:04, no.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

Dear Kevin, a concluding note on my 4:06 argument: 99% of conservatives don’t really care if a couple of homosexuals want to live together, and don’t care what they do behind closed doors. Many conservatives do perceive that homosexuals are demanding subsidy for the undesired behavior; that is why you cannot marry. Nothing more or less.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

To be fair, jbmlaw, being a much faster typist than I, had already countered Kevin’s so-called arguments.

I thought it was more of a b!tchfest than an argument, but then again I’m not one of the three that’s genuflecting to Polly.

Do you think Midori has spent the day playing with her Christmas gift from Shanty Claus?

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

Okay, at 10pm tonite, Courtney Love has a special on VH1. if there ever was must see tv…….

By Kevin

December 16, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

RW, You wrote, “It seems to me that “don’t ask, don’t tell” came into existence under Clinton.” That’s right. It did. Do you have a point?

You wrote, “There is no serious movement to make it legal to fire gays just for being gay, but it’s already legal to fire someone for about anything.” No serious movement is necessary – it IS legal to fire gays for being gay. There is, however, a serious movement among “Christian conservatives” to prevent such employment protections for sexual orientation.

You wrote, “There is no movement to shield Christians from being fired.” No movement is needed. Christians ARE shielded from being fired.

You wrote, “It’s absurd to say that conservatives are all that stands in the way of you getting rid of that or any portion of the pledge. I did not say or imply that conservatives are “all” that stands in the way of getting rid of “under god” in the pledge. Please don’t attribute ideas or words to me that I didn’t say or imply.

“It’s [“under God” in the Pledge] already optional and nobody is trying to make it mandatory.” Sorry buddy — wrong again.

“Would you point me to the bill # that mandates teacher led prayers in public schools. If it’s such a popular conservative objective you would think I would have heard of it.” Actually, since you think it’s illegal to fire somebody because he or she is gay and legal to fire somebody because he or she is a “Christian”, I would NOT think that you would have heard of it. Read section 1260 in the following link: http://www.americansforvoluntaryschoolprayer.org/page3.html For additional information, try http://www.google.com

RW, your ignorance shines like a beacon to your fellow “Christian conservatives”.

By Kevin

December 16, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

More bigotry from jbmlaw “AIDs is nearly exclusively a disease of males homosexuals.

jbmlaw,

Why do insist on spreading such misinformation? Are you really this stupid or is that you will say anything to spread your hate?

Then you wrote “do perceive that homosexuals are demanding subsidy for the undesired behavior

I guess that answers my question. You’ll tell any lie to spread your hate. I am now positive that I was correct in my original post. The devil dwells in your heart.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

Dear RW @ 4:21, ha. I won’t compare you to anyone else - you are incomprable, right? - but you are funny with substance. My compliments.

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

RW is right. My apologies for missing your response to Kevin.

RW,

That website has some great gift ideas!

This would be perfect for Getalife to use when he’s dealing with PoFo.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this

Dear Kevin @ 4:44, I am sorry you tested positive.

By jbmlaw

December 16, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

Dear Kevin @ 4:44, I really am that stupid. Outside of sub-Saharan Africa, almost nobody has AIDs, save male homosexuals. Until we can talk about the disease honestly in this country, the divide will linger.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

Kevin,

There is certainly a beacon of shining ignorance coming out of this exchange. I think we disagree on where it’s emanating from.

So I take it your evidence of being right about anything is because you claim to be right. Letting your liberalism get a good airing today I guess.

To the only point you offered a counter to. I said the pledge itself, not just the “under Gos” part, is optional in our public schools.

By Kevin

December 16, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

RW,

I’ll be more specific with regard to one of my comments, because I know “Christians conservatives” like to take words literally, even when they know exactly what the writer intended. When I wrote “Christians ARE shielded from being fired.” — I meant that Christians are shielded from being fired, simply for being Christians. See jbmlaw’s post on The Civil Rights Act.

Also, please don’t confuse my statements about “Christians” with my feelings about Christians. Christians are great; “Christians” are anything but.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

Oops, that would be God instead of Gos. Can’t be claiming to be one nation under old Gos! I guess I’ll be in trouble at the next super secret Conservative Christian meeting.

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Kevin,

Homosexual men and intravenous drug users overwhelmingly represent who gets AIDS - at least in this country.

That is an undeniable fact and attempts to deny that are nothing but…”indoctrination”.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Kevin @ 4:55,

You should really consider putting down the bottle.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Maybe Kevin is reading those old Time and Newsweek editions that hammered away at AIDS being the coming heterosexual epidemic. I bet all the global cooling stories in those same editions makes them a little confusing to him.

By retrodaddy

December 16, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

Jim,

I think you managed to help produce the groundswell of support for beer/wine sales that you thought was so lacking. Perhaps you’re really just jonesing to pick up a six-pack of Samuel Adams from Publix on Sunday before Falcons games.

However, I agree about the point on the puppy in the courtroom. Based on the coverage I saw on TV, the puppy used didn’t seem to take kindly to being taped up and gagged. If the jurors can’t imagine by means of testioney the pain/damage inflicted - or, perhaps, just by knowing the puppy died - then, f ‘em. They’ll never figure it out. But, it seems like they did, except for one oxygen-thieving troglodyte.

By getalife

December 16, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

Yes, “fakelaw” is a homophobe like most wingnuts.

Thank God they are a dying breed in the political arena.

I have never mentioned the Civil Rights Act but did mention the Logan Act because the wingnuts think that Specter going to talk to Syria is violating the Logan Act.

They eat their own but there has been some kind of power vacuum in Washington. Foreign policy has been taken over by Congress from both sides of the ailse. I think this is a first in US history and a telling sign of the future for the pathetic losers w and cheney.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

retrodaddy,

I’m not sure what the one hold out juror was holding out about, but if I was sitting on a jury where the evidence was all circumstantial I would take a very dim view of a stunt like the puppy as witness. It might make me think the whole case was a charade.

I hope they’ll rethink that one before the new trial.

By Kevin

December 16, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

RW,

You referred to the “only” point I offered a counter to? Do you pretend that my arguments don’t exist if you don’t like them? My 4:36 effectively countered every argument you made. No apologies are necessary, but denial does not serve you.

With regard to your silly point that saying the Pledge is optional — the child is in the room with a teacher asking him or her to stand and recite the pledge, which include the words, “under God” — all or almost all the other children are standing and reciting it — that’s indoctrination, optional or not.

With regard to your stupid joke about a “super secret” meeting — again, I didn’t imply that anybody was doing this stuff in secret. They’re not. If you don’t know about these things, and you apparently don’t, then you should become better informed.

By Jim Wooten

December 16, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

retrodaddy, you seem to be right that the nonexistent groundswell of support for Sunday sales has found its voice here. Until that day arrives, however, I’d advise those who plan to booze it up through Sunday’s Falcons game to head out now for the six-pack.

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

RW,

It’s possible that Kevin relied on the conclusions from this article too, which of course is all wrong.

I’m guessing that the author is in the pro-foreskin movement.

Kevin,

Since lives are at stake, this is an AIDS article that is important to read.

It’s too bad that it has taken 20 years to reach this conclusion. I can remember reading about this in National Geographic years ago - they had African maps that showed that tribes who were not circumcized had grossly higher AIDS rates.

By Kevin

December 16, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw at 4:50,

Nice backpedal with that “Outside of sub-Saharan Africa…” amendment. Do you have any backpedaling you’d like to do to fix this lie?

What is the largest threat to the health insurance system today? (No, not Hillary.) AIDs.

Give it up, dumba$$. You’re just digging the hell hole deeper — at least you’ll have your fellow bigoted ignoramus, Buy Danish, to keep you company down there.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

Kevin,

Your arguments consist of “No it’s not,” I don’t really feel like arguing with a second grader today, but it explains your nutty ideas. Sorry teach made you stand up, when you get back from Christmas break tell her you don’t have to and lobby the rest of the class to take your lead.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

Jim Wooten,

This Sunday’s Falcon game starts in 2 1/2 hours, so you really need to head out now for this one.

By "New" culture in town

December 16, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this

Rep. Alan Mollohan, West Virginia Democrat, is the next embarrassment for Nancy Pelosi’s “most ethical Congress in history.” Mr. Mollohan is slated to chair the appropriations panel which oversees the budget of the Justice Department, including the FBI. But the FBI is currently investigating him for possible appropriations and ethical improprieties. The 11-term lawmaker stepped down as ranking Democrat on the House Ethics Committee in early 2006 pending the outcome of the investigation. There are two controversies here: one concerning a suspicious surge in Mr. Mollohan’s personal wealth in connection with real estate investments — his net worth surged from the low-to-mid six figures in 1999 to at least $6.8 million and as much as $25 million by 2005 — while he was in office; and one concerning $250 million in federal appropriations to five nonprofit organizations that Mr. Mollohan himself set up and which employ his friends and some of his campaign contributors.

By Kevin

December 16, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

Jim Wooten,

FYI, the Falcons game is on tonight at 8:00 on channel 11. I wouldn’t want you to miss it.

By getalife

December 16, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

Barney Happy Holidays video

Pay attention PF.

Good stuff.

By @@

December 16, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Oh Jim’s is still open. Is there a mad rush to get the booze before midnight Jim?

Message for Political Foreskin:

I’m leaving tonight and won’t return until after Christmas. You won’t have to tolerate my vicious attacks. I won’t be badgering the other bloggers here, and I’ll, at least STFU during next week.

I won’t be cruel to you except to say…

…if you do jump to “The Cop Blog” or whatever, ask them to cuff you around a bit for @@, and them slap them on your wrists. Preferably behind your back.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!!!

By Kevin

December 16, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

RW,

Thank you for conceding that I did counter each point. Now as to the “no, it’s not” gripe. You’re right…that’s effectively what it comes down to (although I also provided the link you requested). You put out false information — I correct it.

Do you still believe that it’s illegal to fire people because of his or her sexual orientation?

Do you still believe there’s no movement to prevent such employment discrimination against gays?

Do you still believe that it’s legal to fire somebody because he or she is a Christian?

Do you still deny that the bill that I linked to exists?

Do you still argue that reciting the Pledge in the classroom with the words “under God”, (optional or not) is not a form of indoctrination?

Or RW, do you prefer to remain ignorant along with your friends in Satan, Buy Danish and jbmlaw?

By @@

December 16, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

Crap getalife. I thought I was gonna be watchin’ the “I love you - you love me Barney”.

MERRY CHRISTMAS GETALIFE!!!

Look ^^^ your name is all capped. My Christmas gift to you.

Bye!!!! (Insert smiley face here)

By Jim Wooten

December 16, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

Dang, I’ll be at a Christmas party in 2 hours. Booze, yes. Falcons, no.

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

Kevin,

I assume you’re not blogging from Sub-Saharan Africa.

Calling me an “ignoramus” for posting facts and information must make you feel like big man but just makes you look like an ignorant idiot and someone who is in denial.

Since I’m not in the risk group you deny exists, it’s not me who needs to separate truth from fiction on this issue.

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

@@,

Have a great vacation!!!

Kevin,

If you believe in Satan, what’s your beef with us being a nation under God?

By Buy Danish

December 16, 2006 06:06 PM | Link to this

Jim,

Have fun, but don’t drink after Midnight!

By Political Foreskin

December 16, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

I’ve got five good minutes for the star bar on monday. People want their comics to be young. So I always have to bribe the mgt. to get on stage. But monday nite will be a new era of comedy courtesy Political Foreskin. I will explain myself to strangers for the first time.

RW! I finally figured out Polly Prepuce. Polly is short for political. Prepuce is the vetinarian term for a cat’s rear end.

@@, that one hurt. .

Falcons in two hours. Courtney love in four.

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

Kevin,

That link says nothing about mandating school prayer, so I’m still waiting for the link to the bill that does. And yes, I’m very much inclined to believe it doesn’t exist.

As I said before, you can fire anybody you want. The government should have no role in this other than any rule they want to make that the government won’t do business with a company whose practices they disapprove of. You and the government have no right to interfere with my hiring and firing practices and I have no right to expect that you’ll do business with me if you disapprove. A free market solution to a free market problem.

I think government education is indoctrination of the very worst kind and it should be abolished. That will even take care of your pesky pledge problem. You’re living proof of the dangers posed by government education, you’ve just spent an entire afternoon stomping your feet and whining that anybody that doesn’t agree with Kevin is evil. Do you have a little Hitler complex brewing here?

By RW-(the original)

December 16, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

@@,

Have a great trip!

Polly,

Close enough I guess

By David

December 17, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this

I bristle at the incredibly stupid idea of no alcohol sales on Sunday. Man, I move more and more to a libertarian stance every single day. I don’t need to buy beer on Sunday, but there is NO reason other than goober Xians pushing their whims and tradiishun (yee haw!) on others. Don’t want to buy alcohol on Sunday? THEN DON’T! Leave the rest of us alone.

By David

December 17, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this

Actually, after a little more thought, we should keep the alcohol laws as is so that we’ll all have a weekly reminder how goofy organized religion is.

By Hal Todd

December 17, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

Hi Jim. Haven’t written you in several years. My complaint is with the State Department who publishes the official state highway map. They will not return my telephone calls. There is so much advertising and public promotions that they ruin the highways and city insets. They scrunch down the print so small that they fail to show the roads. See Athens or Augusta and try to get through either of them without getting lost. Now they want to drop the villages and small towns. What use it a map if it doesn’t lead you to where you wish to go? Best wishes, Hal Todd

By Jim Wooten

December 17, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

Morning Hal. You make a good point. Plus a few of these small towns they’d eliminate from the map are in areas where there’s nothing else, so deleting them doesn’t address the problem you describe.

By spiritraveller

December 17, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Sell booze on Sunday? This is a prime example of one of the General Assembly’s faults, no matter which party is in power. The agenda is set by interest groups — in this case convenience stores and other retailers.

Uhmmm, you forgot about the restaurateurs and the so-called Christian Conservatives (hint: they are neither).

How convenient.

By Nw GA

December 18, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this

What happened to all of the conservatives whining about an “intrusion of big government” when smoking was limited in restaurants?

Why then should you bother meddling in a grocery store’s affairs by picking a day of the week you won’t allow it to sell beer and wine? That sounds like Big Government and Big Religion to me.

By Thinking Clearly

December 19, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

As usual the self proclaimed conservative want more not less government intervention when it come to Sunday alcohol sales. How, with a straight face, can you be against further government intervention, and yet be for a law against Sunday alcohol sales? Wooten, I mainly read your column for my daily dose if inconsistancy.

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