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DEL.ICIO.USRacial balancing in schools
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The problem with having “diversity” as the standard for determining school admissions and school attendance boundaries is that it’s eye-of-the-beholder — and, furthermore, it’s applied by people who have no particular expertise who are measuring only by skin color.
An important case on far local school systems can go to achieve skin-color “diversity” by creating attendance rules that effectively exclude some children from their neighborhood school on the basis of the color of their skin is being argued today before the U.S. Supreme Court. Suit was brought by parents in Louisville, Ky., and in Seattle, who objected after their local systems created admissions policies that effectively froze the black and white mix at arbitrary percentages. In Louisville, system policies are designed to keep black enrollment between 15 and 50 percent. In Seattle, the effort is to maintain a 40-60 ratio of whites to non-whites. In 2000-2001 in Seattle, about 10 percent of 3,000 ninth graders were denied admissions based on their race.
This is one of those instances where schools are used to achieve a social end that most people would regard as desirable — a nation where people are exposed to, and have an opportunity to know and to respect, each other’ s differences. But the problem is that it’s always reduced to skin color — and that becomes the basis for picking winners and losers.
It’s smart business to hire a work force that reflects the marketplace. Colleges and universities, certainly, should do everything possible to leave no child behind, reaching out to offer admissions to every qualified student and even to aggressively recruit poor blacks from families that have no prior exposure to big schools, like UGA or Georgia Tech.
The Bush adminstration backs the parents in today’s U.S. Supreme Court arguments, contending that school boards are well-meaning, but are attempting to race-balance without compelling justification. And in that, parents and the administration are correct.
Comments
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this
I reject your red colored herring today, Jim, not because it is red, but because it is yellow (journalism), and because your conclusion doesn’t address the gray areas intrinsic to the historical disenfranchisement of the hue-challenged.
IdontknowwhatIjustsaid.
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this
Paris Hilton also rejected this joke: “The whole flashing incident was a misunderstanding. I was talking to my dog and Brittany thought I meant her. I only said, “Sit…roll over….BEG!”
By jim d
December 4, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this
Jim,
This wil be another landmark decision.
Hopefully one that will drive yet another nail in the coffin of NCLB.
I really can’t say as I blame local politicans though since the pressure to “test well” is being placed ahead of learning, by the folks in Washington.
By Redneck Convert
December 4, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this
Well, this being a Libraritarian like jbmlaw sure is fun. At Billy Bob’s Saturday night, I tried it out. Talking about how things are wrong because of innerfearence with the free market and all. Finally Joe Bill said, “Red”—he calls me Red—“you know good and well you hate n__ just as much as the rest of us”—he used the n-word. But I said my reasons were innerfearence with the free market and less guvmint. Anyways, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. It’s sure nice to be able to hate Those People and welfare bums and libruls and not get looked down on because you can give another reason.
This school quota stuff is just another example of how not electing old Strom back then was a big mistake. Now we got court cases and forced race-mixing and everything else because old Strom wasn’t there to put the veto to those laws. Anyways, the free market says people ought to be able to move to wherever they like. The guvmint shouldn’t force them to send their kids to schools with Those People. So the big problem is innerfearence with the free market and guvmint getting in our private life. That’s my opinion, and I hope jbmlaw and other Libraritarians agree with it.
I guess the good white people of Louisville is going to have to start a bunch of private schools and yell real loud if they can’t use their tax money to pay for them. It all goes to show you what a mistake it was not to vote for old Strom.
Well, it’s back to the beer run for me. I got a bunch on my mind. The court date for punching that kid at the bowling alley is coming up, and I could go to jail. Then where will the good Baptists and Church of God people be without their beer? And I been dreding the monthly bath that’s coming up.
By Relentless (and other LIES)
December 4, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - Unable to win Senate confirmation, U.N. Ambassador John Bolton will step down when his temporary appointment expires within weeks, the White House said Monday.
As late as last month, Bush, through his top aides, said he would not relent in his defense of Bolton, despite unwavering opposition from Democrats who view Bolton as too combative for international diplomacy.
Perino said Bush had reluctantly accepted Bolton’s decision to leave when his current appointment expired.
Our ‘relentless’ leader has relented ! ! !
By JK
December 4, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this
I agree with Mr. Wooten today, but I don’t know if we take the same route to get there. As a parent, the idea of getting the kids up at 5 a.m. so they can spend an hour and a half on a school bus is completely unacceptable! Not only are school buses not a safe place to store your children for two or three hours a day, but most need more sleep than they actually get. And where’s their sense of community when they have to leave theirs to go to school?
Every neighborhood school should be fantastic! How we get to that point is a complex matter (sorry jbmlaw) with many aspects to debate. But the fact that so many Americans have simply given up on that ideal should give us a clue as to why it hasn’t happened.
By jbmlaw
December 4, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. Our society has determined, by a vote of at least 51%-49% which I never remember, that the best of all worlds is to create a system of government schools in which parents have no choice of institution nor vote on curriculum, and which all taxpayers will subsidize without regard to child-bearing history or intention. Of course, the constitutional issue of diversity (don’t remember seeing that word in the Constitution? There is a reason) would never arise in a rational world – whether vouchers or personal responsibility or whatever. One government screw-up naturally leads to five more. The Libertarian solution is to dismantle that which government cannot intelligently administer. Diversity should get really interesting in the next generation, when our cartographers try to create school zones balancing Asian, Hispanic, African, and Caucasian populations. Unless our Supreme Court calls a halt to the foolishness. My dear JK, you have a marvelous gift for understatement!
By Dusty
December 4, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this
Jim, this subject is so fraught with implications of bigotry that it is hard to give rational or practical suggestions. I guess it does boil down to evaluating the importance of creating diversity.
Those who have been discriminated against seem to believe that diversity will cure us of that ailment of hate. But will it?
I think that people who meet those of other races whom they enjoy and respect, diversity comes naturally, not artificially. I am not sure that “forced” contact can achieve that understanding.
Busing children over great distances for schools seems impractical and difficult for students and parents. I think your last paragraph covers it very well. Race balancing should not be done by school boards, even well meaning ones. The parents are right to object and the Bush administration is right to support the parents in this case before the Supreme Court.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
Well it’s nice to be back after a near two week hiateous away from this crazy liboRAT-infested city. After reading the past few topics, nothing has changed: our resident schizoided out neostalinist is still talking to itself and the other psuedo-intellect liborats think they somehow dominate this blog (heh).
You see, the disease of liberalism has to have a “group” for every issue. The haves; the have-nots; the working class; the rich; the poor; the health insured; the non-health insured; the priviledged; the college-educated; the non-high school graduates; the this, the that, blah blah blah.
Nobody in liberalism ever wants to address the why someone doesn’t have health insurance while ignorning that $25,000 sedan and $3,000 plasma that person owns. I know three people who do not have health insurance because they choose (uh-oh, there’s that ugly word again… CHOICE) rather spend their money on other things… God knows how many others are out there just like them.
Nobody in the doctrine of liberalism ever wants to address why someone worked their way through college whereas someone else who sat around and cried about not being able to afford college gets all the attention and someone else’s money.
One of the most vile and morally bankrupt ideas to ever spew out of liberalism is the false doctrine of “diversity.” You see, liberals despise independent success. If you are a black man and made it in the white-dominated biz world, you are a sell out or an Uncle Tom. That goes for politics too if said black person goes Republican. Just look at the nasty comments and cartoons from libokooks and blacks on Condi.
Liberals never tackle the tough issues like why 18% of all blacks will never graduate from high school (you know, that “free” education system for everyone, not those “rich” schools that are segregationists) compared to 8% of whites. Nope, black leaders like the Al Sharptongue give sharp tongue service with an audience and media, but nothing is ever done to help change why black males think studying is “acting white” and think they’ll all make it as NBA stars or win the Lotto.
No, it’s all just a helluvalot easier to slap labels on people, group them, and make them all feel suppressed victims in one form or fashion or as the greedy suppressors who don’t “give” enough away or have “too much” money or “stepped on the backs of the poor” to get where they are in life. Has anyone ever known a liberal who’s actually happy and content with life and never b!tches about some issue or cause or whoh doesn’t CREATE a cause or issue to b!tch about? Me neither.
Hey Pelosiwitch: how’s that tax break legislation going? Hehehe…
By Markus
December 4, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
Oh this is priceless. A caller on C-SPAN ripped Jimmy “peace at all cost” Carter a new one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBaDfue_Rys
One thing the caller forgot to mention: Chavez granted amnesty to over 700,000 illegal immigrants so they could vote for him. Just one of those small details that Mr. 21% interest rates forgot about in that alleged vote certification… or that Chevez is training hamas & hellbollah islamigoons to be “Mexicans.” Things that make you go HHHMMMMMMMM…
But not Mr. 8% unemployment. No sir. Mr. 12% inflation thinks the world can be full of peace if we just become pacifist candyasses like him. OH yeah, and bus people of other colors around different areas to counter any racial imbalances.
By getalife
December 4, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this
Another defeat to w as his arrogant bully at the UN resigns. Good riddance.
Here is a thought, how about a real diplomat who shows respect when talking to other countries.
The w regime is falling apart.
Thank God.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
December 4, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this
Markanus is back - who tipped over the porta-potty?
By getalife
December 4, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this
Poor macaca,
The Dems have not started yet and he is already whining. You think you hate Pelosi now, wait until she is President.
You will never call the Dems weak after the investigations, the indictments, the impeachments and many of the gop going to prison.
I feel sorry for you macaca. I do not think you can handle what is about to happen to your party.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this
No gotnolife, Bolton was just too pro-American, too pro-Israeli, wouldn’t put up with UN corruption and scandal, and other things unlike you filthy limpwristed liberal pukes on the left in this nation.
By TFTT's Mother
December 4, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this
I am sorry to report that Tommy will be late this morning. He is trying to arrange bail after being arrested for public indecency in Midtown last night. It seems he could not find a loo in time. Please excuse his tardiness.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
Did you miss me Anti-America’s Liberal al Qaeda Connection? Life is good. I truly don’t deserve to have it so good while your fellow cohorts starve and freeze under bridges. Have you volunteered your time and/or money to help them my little neoStalinist islamoterrorist-loving liberal friend? Hell no, I didn’t think so. Puke.
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this
I just deduced something. (I’m the first in the world to have figured this out). We can never leave Iraq. We are stuck. Iraq is our defacto 51st state.
There is no exit possible. Think about it. How could we leave when we’ve entangled ourselves in the cross border ethnic wars. There’s too many. Then add the sectarian war we’re now married to, and you get a fact: we can never ever leave Iraq.
I dubs naming the new state: Iraqia
Today’s Wooten Summary: The hue-challenged, as judged by the ewe-chillin’, aren’t due queue cullin’.
My comment: With the problems we’ve inherited with our new 51st state of Iraqia, our race problem is going to seem like a picnic, which brings us to the hand basket we’re going to hell in.
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this
If the Supreme Court acts responsibly and ends this despicable practice of busing children in and out of their own communities in order to achieve the racially divisive goal of “diversity” then we can thank George Bush for appointing conservatives to the Court.
Busing is one of the many egregious legacies of “liberalism”. I would note that Jim Wooten’s comparison of neighborhood schools to colleges in this instance is not even a valid one, because, among other things, college is a voluntarily pursuit and students are not forced to attend colleges out of their district to achieve racial balance.
Moreover, many colleges have separate dorms and even separate graduation ceremonies which were established in response to different groups who demanded that they be allowed to segregate themselves - and whose ridiculous demands were met by p.c. University muckety mucks in stunning acts of hypocrisy.
I’d like to see some “diversity” in who they hire to teach our children at our nation’s universities - both public and private.
Right now our schools are left wing propaganda vehicles that can’t even leave English Literature classes well enough alone.
Here’s the appalling evidence.
By getalife
December 4, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this
Puke on ailse 13.
Clean up yor mess macaca like we will clean up w’s puke on our country.
Bwa
Bwhaha
Bwhahahahahahahaha.
Loser.
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
Today’s topic is not an educational issue. Once again, nobody gets Wooten.
The founding fathers owned slaves. There is a design flaw in the constitution. (one we fought a civil war over).
We now must face the serious work of fixing that flaw. (It weren’t no civil war, but a rebellion).
The guiding issue in this debate should be: Justice for All Americans.
That’s the founding premise. That’s the Democratic Goal.
Iraqia is our 51st state. Get used to it. I called it.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
Hey gotnolife-
My party got fired for good reason. To wake them the hell back up. Your party “won” based upon who they were not. Now, if you think that is the defacto root cause for a future victory for Pelosicommie, it is you that is sadly mistaken on the unforseen consequences of your party. I see where the Witch is already backtracking on tax increases, putting forward 9/11 recommendations, and Iraq. Whatsamatta snookums, RAT got your tongues?
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this
Wooten’s Premise: The hue-challenged, as judged by the ewe-chillin’, are not due any queue-cullin’.
My Comment: You kiddin’?
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this
Paris Hilton was teaching her dog new tricks in the limo but Brittany thought she was talking to her. All Paris had to say was, “Sit….roll-over….BEG!”, and the world is assured that Brittany is a woman.
I wonder why this never happened to Ann Coulter?
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this
I dont see any neo-newts claiming dorkus as one of their own, do you, takemywife?
His party? baaaaaaaaaa
bwa
By Charles
December 4, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this
Indeed skin color and diversity will always matter in America because of the position which African Americans and other ethnic groups choose to occupy in the society. Ethnic groups hold a position of abject weakness and vulnerability.
African-Americans must do more to gain respect from individuals of our group, the larger society, and the world community. In America there is a group of people, African Americans, who will not assume responsibility for feeding, clothing, sheltering, educating, employing our own people independently of others, which yields honor, dignity, self respect, or simply stated real power.
Until African-Americans and other groups assume those responsibilities or most ethnic groups are consciously working to achieve them, Americans will continue to struggle with the matter of skin color, diversity, and the kind of society that all of us really want.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this
Well one of the biggest hurricane seasons that never happened has drawn to a close. You know, all that mankind-caused global warming and stuff. Last year the Katrina-shocked Al Sores of the nation thought it would be swell if we would immediately ditch our cars, our homes, and go back to living in caves with a jackass & cart and eating plants. Boy, I sure am glad we can forecast hurricane seasons and know that a soccer-mom’s SUV in Alpharetta causes them to form over Africa’s west coast. How are those ice caps melting on Mars, Mr. Convenient Lies Gore? What a bunch of overemotionalized scared girlie men idiots.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/09/do0907.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/09/ixworld.html
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this
After reading markus’s comments, I think it’s high time our government took another hard look at allowing doctors to use forceps when birthin’ babies.
The damage is permanent and complete, and I think it’s a damn shame.
Word, bird.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
Speaking of Pelosicommie, it appears she’s off to a real good start on all those promises in the notorious First 100 Days. Now the RAT pack is backing down on 9/11 Commission recommendations.
I wonder what old Bug Eyes is going to use as an excuse now? OH, and I just can’t WAIT for the media to jump all over her for not doing what she said she’ll do. Sure. Yeah. Mm-huh.
By Diogenes
December 4, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this
Jim,
According to the Nancy Benac (Associated Press) article, “Court to hear Racial Debate,” on the front page of todays’ print AJC (the article to which your editorial serves as rebuttal), a “similar school diversity challenge from Massachusetts” was refused by the Supreme Court last year. Now that the Bush toady Alito is on the Supreme Court, they agree to hear the Louisville and Seattle cases.
According to her article, “[t]he Bush administration is siding with parents against the school districts, arguing the policies are an unconstitutional, albeit well-meaning, ‘racial balancing’ without compelling justification.”
You spoke out of both sides of your mouth simultaneously when you say, “This is one of those instances where schools are used to achieve a social end that most people would regard as desirable — a nation where people are exposed to, and have an opportunity to know and to respect, each other’ s differences. But the problem is that it’s always reduced to skin color — and that becomes the basis for picking winners and losers.”
Your solution to that “basis for picking winners and losers,” you then go on to state, is that diversity in hiring and in admissions to UGA (which has been questioned recently) and Ga Tech are sufficient rememdies to maintain desirable diversity. Jim, we both know that if the Supreme Court backs off racial balancing in the schools, it will not be long before we have the same type of racial inequalities we had in the 50’s. Let’s hope that the Supreme Court will uphold the appeals courts which have ruled in favor of the school systems.
We have more diversity in our society today than we did in 1954 when the Brown v. Board of Education ruling was made. We definitely don’t need to start backing up now.
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this
Paris Hilton cancelled an appearance on an awards show this week because she hated the jokes the show’s writers gave her. Here’s one she really hated: “I think Brittany’ is dislexic. She’s up for a role as a female superhero, you know, the one who fights crime in her underwear and flies an invisible plane?”
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this
Another Paris Joke Reject: “Seriously, Brittany IS dislexic. She was trying to moon the paparazzi.”
By JK
December 4, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this
The guiding issue in this debate should be: Justice for All Americans.
Yay! Let’s begin by having good schools for all Americans. As long as the schools in low-income neighborhoods s-u-c-k, there will be an argument for busing. Discrepancies in opportunity in America today are becoming less about race and more about money and education. Public education used to be a key factor in creating what we call “the American dream” — you know, that thing anyone could achieve if they wanted it bad enough. If the voucher crowd gets their way, though, they can wipe that out in two generations.
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
Bush accurately describes Bolton’s short-lived tenure like this:
Ambassador Bolton led the successful negotiations that resulted in unanimous Security Council resolutions regarding North Korea’s military and nuclear activities. He built consensus among our allies on the need for Iran to suspend the enrichment and reprocessing of uranium,” Bush added. “His efforts to promote the cause of peace in Darfur resulted in a peacekeeping commitment by the United Nations. He made the case for United Nations reform because he cares about the institution, and wants it to become more credible and effective.
What EXACTLY do you object to? I’ll check back later for a response.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this
Penile Snakeskin-
Your words are so important to everyone here. I mean, there isn’t a second that goes by that everyone isn’t sitting on freaking pins and needles with nail-biting anticipation wondering what is going to come out of your quasi-comedian forked tongue next.
Naw, you ain’t all dat.
By war EAgle
December 4, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this
Why oh why do we HAVE to integrate schools? We choose where we live because of a certain school-why screw it up for all of us by busing in non desireables and perhaps lowering the avg score to the point where the school is graded as PATHETIC? I do not want some street thug from the Atlanta Project schools going to the same school where my 400K home is located. What ever happened to freedom of choice? Oh that’s right-the democrats took that away with their PC laws. Way to go Taxocrats.
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
Diogenes,
I’m ready to start a movement to bus Socialist Librarians to places like North Korea, where true believers like you can act on your own principles, instead of using our children as pawns in your bankrupt policy initiatives.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this
Awe. Gwynnut Paltrow says she like the UK better than the US because it’s not as capitalist as the US. She goes on to say our friends the Brits are more intelligent and “civilized” than we Americans are. I wonder what her definition of “more intelligent” is with regards to not being so capitalist? Supporting modern day Robinhoodism of punishing the successful and rewarding the slackassed? Maybe it’s allowing islamogoons to blow up buses… or riot in the streets…oops, that rioting was in France… my bad. Oh but wait, I’ll bet it’s about drinking more per capita than Americans. Or no, maybe it’s that they just started learning how to cook more than boiled potatoes and meat. “Great Chefs of England and Ireland” … man that would be a thick book, wouldn’t it Gwynut? What’s up with all these Hollywoody freaks thinking they are smarter than everyone else? I’ll bet this walking albino skeleton couldn’t decipher her own balance sheet.
http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=170246
By getalife
December 4, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this
BD,
I do not listen to w.
Has no credibility.
None.
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this
Forgive Buy Danish, people, it’s just the forceps talking. She dont mean nuthin’.
Iraq is in a transitional phase. If you look at our own civil war, it was the evolution of the ideology that shaped the final result. In Iraq, that ideology is itself evolving exponentially, so that any Baker Group recommendations are naive and irrelevant by definition.
You poor sods have no idea what Bush has gotten us into.
You poor sods.
Buy Danish: Sit…Roll over…..BEG!!!
By deegee
December 4, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this
If you want to know what’s happening in Louisville, KY then read Wooten. If you want to read something interesting then read the IHT. Bush and friends keep digging a deeper money pit and we keep throwing more money into it. Actually, Iraq may become the 52nd state after Afghanistan, remember them? This is what happens when inexperienced ideologues are elected to high office. Read and weep.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/04/news/kabul.php
By Diogenes
December 4, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this
Jim,
Now that Al Sharpton has decided to bring his trained investigatory skills to the Kathryn Johnson killing, the whole thing will be snafued beyond repair, and we never will know what happened. This was a pretty serious situation, and a comedy act just was not needed.
By Diogenes
December 4, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Kansas Outlaws Practice Of Evolution
TOPEKA, KS—In response to a Nov. 7 referendum, Kansas lawmakers passed emergency legislation outlawing evolution, the highly controversial process responsible for the development and diversity of species and the continued survival of all life. Lawmakers decried spontaneous genetic mutations. “From now on, the streets, forests, plains, and rivers of Kansas will be safe from the godless practice of evolution, and species will be able to procreate without deviating from God’s intended design,” said Bob Bethell, a member of the state House of Representatives. “This is about protecting the integrity of all creation.”
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/55807
By Markus
December 4, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish sayeth:
“I’m ready to start a movement to bus Socialist Librarians to places like North Korea, where true believers like you can act on your own principles, instead of using our children as pawns in your bankrupt policy initiatives.”
I second that motion. Let’s get all those know-it-all librats who hate this nation and think we have it so bad here overseas somewhere for a year and figure out how they are going to eat, work, live, and get medical care. Buncha mindless miserable myrmidons.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this
I say to heck with bussing in kids of different colors from different areas to balance out the color spectrum in schools. I say we bus little old ladies in from southwest Atlanta who own guns and aren’t afraid to shoot an intruder… cop or not. Kennesaw comes to mind in needing more color.
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish: Sit, rollover…BEG!!
Iraqia is our 51st state. We couldn’t leave if we could leave. We are so trapped there.
Someone tell me how we could leave. Know what? U CANT! (at least not without everyone knowing about the forceps the doctors misused on you)
25 words or less summary of Wooten’s point: The Hue Challenged as judged by the Ewe-Chillin’, are not due Queue-Cullin’.
Now watch dorkus count the words.
bwa
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this
Jim: Trying to “spice up” your column I see with that old republican fight song, “Talk Race Win South!”.
Here’s a thought, why not talk “substance” instead?
By Diogenes
December 4, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
Heck, if Iraq is to be our 51st state, then we’d have to call it Bushovania in honor of the discoverer.
By jbmlaw
December 4, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this
Dear Diogenes @ 11:50, your post magnifies the virtue of diversity. Should we prefer diversity at the expense of excellence, or sacrifice excellence for the sake of diversity? Or perhaps you believe a man can have two masters, pardon the pun?
I respectfully note that when the talent is there, the color of the skin does not matter. Condi Rice, and Tom Sowell, and Walter Williams are at the top of their fields, uninhibited by racial characteristics. The former two have particularly compelling stories of triumph over birth circumstances. Why should we not foster a system requiring excellence in head-to-head competition among the brightest minds?
By Markus
December 4, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this
You want to know the definition of irony? Listening to all the liberals on this blog wet their pretty pink panties over Christianity, evolution vs. creationism, and the threat of Christianity becoming a theocratic force in this nation.
No, that’s not the ironic part. The ironic part is these same loud-mouthed liberals who scream bloody murder at the site of a cross or manger in a public area are deafening silent when muslims attempt to push their theocracy ideas into our public lives. Specifically, these limpwristed liberals don’t say jack about muslim women wanting to wear burkas at their driver license photo-op… or when muslim cab drivers refuse to pick up passengers who carry alcohol.
Now the latest muslim-pushing on American society: they are now wanting prayer rooms at airports. Now the last time I checked, our taxpayer dollars went towards airports in this nation. Now tell me how in the hell this is not religious encroachment in a public forum? If Christians had called for this, the ACLPEW and liberal demoncats would have raised bloody hell and protested. But we can’t offend those muslims who were pulled off a plane, can we? (Yeah we know those goons did that ploy as a setup… except Jimmy “Mr. Muslim” Carter and friends). Let’s get Cairo on the phone and see if they’ll set aside a prayer room for Christians and Jews. No, we have to be nice to those who are not like us. Oh gag me with more liberalism.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/01/D8LOC15O0.html
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
wouldn’t put up with UN corruption and scandal
Sure wouldn’t!!! He only put up with Republican corruption and scandal!!!
By Dusty
December 4, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
I don’t know what part of the South you are from but I never heard of the Supreme Court as being a Southern entity.
Jim is talking about a case before the court today. Parents of school children from Louisville and Seattle are bringing the case.
That is the “substance” of Jim’s column. What particular substance are you on?
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this
Forgive Markus, people, and know that’s it’s the forceps talking. he dont mean nuthin’, being a dented dittoheadwound and all.
Markus: stfu. People are not prone to indulge short bus riders like you. They dont know what an excellent blogger you are…..yeah…excellent blogger…..yeah…excellent b-b-blogger…y-y-yeah….excellent b-b-bloger…….yeah.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this
Iraq our 51st state? I thought that was the Welfare State you quasi-communist liberals tout about so much. Yeah yeah yeah, you limpdocked liberals said the same thing about Kuwaiit in 1991. Perhaps if we didn’t have such big mouthed demoncat assbandits like Dick “Turban” Durbin badmouthing to an international media everything Bush does as a failure, we wouldn’t have such determined enemies to our defeat over there… and here.
Jim Webb said he wanted to “punch” Bush for asking about his son in Iraq. What’s the matter Jimbo? Was your son not smart enough to go to college and he’s now stuck in Iraq? HAHAHAHAH!!! That’s a funny joke Jim, don’t you GEDDIT??
Well, I guess that sets the precident for how it’s going to hit the fan after January. I can’t wait to see Bush stick that veto pen in Webb’s face.
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
Wrong, Pusstree, your “substance” synopsis is totally incorrectly stated. The fact of the lawsuit is not the substance, nor is it the topic, nor should it be included when advancing the discussion.
This is why trolls who comment in cadres of cads, like you and dorklick, are so unwelcome in blogs. You post too much. You’re too ignorant to comment germanely, and worst of all, you stink.
BTW: sit…rollover….BEG……….ew.
By Curious Observer
December 4, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
Yes sirree, it’s time to return to those good old days when our good white kids went to well funded schools and those dark people attended whatever hovels were available. The government didn’t get involved in such matters then, and we were all better off. It wasn’t a problem until a bunch of activist judges decided we wouldn’t refuse to fund schools our own kids went to, so they forced us integrate.
And while we’re riling up the knuckle-draggers with discussion of forced quotas, let’s throw in gay marriage and prayer in schools and the Ten Commandments in the courthouse just to make sure we get a lively discussion. It’s the good ol’ Southern way—kick the voters in the rear end and sodomize them while holding up a vision of a return to the days of Gone With the Wind. Works every time. Keeps ‘em smiling.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
Little Debbie:
“wouldn’t put up with UN corruption and scandal
Sure wouldn’t!!! He only put up with Republican corruption and scandal!!!”
That’s the difference between Republicans and Democrats. When Republicans get busted, they step down. There are plenty of RATs who stayed in power after corruption hit them. And that definitely goes back to 1980 when “The Running Man II” Murtha smelled that bribe jar that busted so many other RATs.
By Van
December 4, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw ,
Well said.
My concern would be for the families and kids that are bused across town to achieve a balance.
What does the student gain by riding a school bus for an hour each way. How does this motivate a student to do better?
Who is getting the preceived benefit?
By Markus
December 4, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this
Snakeskin:
Make me shut up on a conservative blog you vile worthless disgusting neoStalinist islamogoon-loving POS.
By jbmlaw
December 4, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this
Only a highly-nuanced Leftist mind finds Iraq when the topic is school busing. Are you guys ingesting too much trans-fats or something? Get on topic. (Or are you conceding the topic?)
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this
Moreover, many colleges have separate dorms and even separate graduation ceremonies which were established in response to different groups who demanded that they be allowed to segregate themselves
Name one.
By @@
December 4, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this
Jim: I’ve never understood why local school boards entitle themselves to force such ludicrous policies on student bodies.
Let’s give credit where it’s due. Our kids have adjusted to diversity, and many of us parents can take some of the credit. We were either embedded in the school segregation movement of the late fifties and early sixties, or we were made aware of it through history books.
From kindergarten on, I was educated in a desegregated system. It wasn’t an oddity to me, it just was, and it’s the same for our kids today.
Forcing this issue will “undo” all of the progress that has been made.
If we’ve striving for a “color-blind” society as the ideal situation, then race should never be part of any situation involving government. A race-based quota, by its very nature is racist.
Kids won’t respond well to being shuffled. Jumping on this bus will create racial animosity where it may no longer exist.
If it’s the quality of education; urban vs. suburban, I say move the teachers around. They’re on the government payroll. Most kids will find “some” fault with their teachers anyway.
Let the kids focus on what’s important to them. Their friends, teammates, and education.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this
Right now our schools are left wing propaganda vehicles that can’t even leave English Literature classes well enough alone.Here’s the appalling evidence.(link)
What the link you provided failed to mention is that no one MAKES these kids take these courses. Freshman English 101 is still standard curriculum, and after freshman year, if you kid wants to take up surfing and its part of the curriculuum, he can.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this
Dusty: The republican theme song is “talk race (pause comma then add imaginary and) win the south. it’s been their strategy since Reagan. They’ve even admitted it, on more than one occassion I might add.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
You know, listening to all these liberal demoncats whine about the return to the “good old days” (as if lynching and white only fountains will be legal again or something) just because we want to reverse some of the jackass socialist policies of liberalism is like listening to a homeless bum whine about not having a cell phone for a job prospect: it just doesn’t add up.
Oh yeah, where were Al Gore Sr. and Robert “Grand Kleagle” Byrd on the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Mm-huh…
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
So far today, dorkus, dye brainless and pusstree have commented over 20 times. (that’s not counting the aliases they use to answer themselves: hello dio)
Who thinks that’s not totally ridiculous and proof that they are insane?
These three post to themselves and answer themselves. They are trolls. (Improperly forcep’d trolls).
They represent the worst americans possible. Luckily they’re part of a dying + brainless breed of improper persons who the american people will no longer tolerate.
I stand with my patriotic neighbors and friends as we greet this new congress with renewed hope that this nation will not perish from the stench of earthen neo- trolls everywhere.
By Dusty
December 4, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this
Curious Observer,
You are soooo prejudiced that you would ruin any diversity plan. Don’t blame is on the South. It is your own production of hate that is holding you back.
By getalife
December 4, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
But the good news of the week is that George — you gotta love him — Bush firmly opposes premature departure and timetables. He’s the guy I want in my foxhole.
“Ten more US troops have been killed in Iraq ahead of a meeting between US President George W. Bush and a powerful Shiite leader.”
Yep, w will not be found in a foxhole. Too dangerous for that coward to even go to Iraq.
By jbmlaw
December 4, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this
Dear Markus @ various times today: well-said. You are giving our leftist friends the same fits the lamented John Bolton gives the UNcrats. I rarely have cause to write to you, but your arguments are strong and focused, and never more so than today.
By Dusty
December 4, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
I’ve never heard that Republican theme song about race. Could it be the one Democrats use to scare black voters into staying with them? I’m glad Condi Rice happened to miss such siren songs.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoneWrong:
many colleges have separate dorms and even separate graduation ceremonies which were established in response to different groups who demanded that they be allowed to segregate themselves
“Name one.”
http://aad.english.ucsb.edu/docs/wmay6.html
Here’s one from Stanford. It took me all of 1.7 seconds on Google. You liberals don’t work too hard at obtaining F-A-C-T-S, do you? Of course not… that’s why you are liberals. Emotionalism overrides your fact chasing every time.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this
In America there is a group of people, African Americans, who will not assume responsibility for feeding, clothing, sheltering, educating, employing our own people independently of others
These group of people are called Appalachians (who, egad!, are predominantly white and who are the biggest demographic of all those “responsibilities” that you speak of). Don’t belive the hype.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this
Hey Snakeskin:
What the hell is it to you who posts here and how often? WHAT THE HELL BUSINESS IS IF OF YOURS? This is a CONSERVATIVE blog. If you don’t like the amount of posts by someone, then you can pack your little liberal lunchpail and haulass over to demoncatunderground.com where you rightfully belong.
By getalife
December 4, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this
BYe, Bye, Bolton—The Bolton Scream
Unhinged loser.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this
Oh yeah, one more thing SNAKESKIN:
You say “we are a dying breed” eh? Actually, between abortions and chapping your leftist hides over the tradition of marriage, it’s the other way around. You’d better find some of that nasty liberal skank in midtown to hit up… some that’s straight anyway.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2006/09/29/notes092906.DTL&nl=fix
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this
So true, so true. I often wonder if he’s a plant for the Conservatrons to keep the talk on race and not substance. IF he was, I wouldn’t be surprised.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this
respectfully note that when the talent is there, the color of the skin does not matter. Condi Rice, and Tom Sowell, and Walter Williams are at the top of their fields, uninhibited by racial characteristics
jmblaw: THAT came about because of diversity and Equal Opportunity. Before those two programs, would Rice have been even LOOKED AT as a candidate for Sec. of State? Answer truthfully, if u can.
By Dusty
December 4, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
I think you are trying to change the subject. The subject for today is “Racial balancing in schools”. I have never heard of any “Appalachians” or mountain people complaining about diversity.
In fact, they are noted for their independence and hard work when the going gets tough.
Liberals don’t like them. Just ask Zell Miller.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this
The ceremony here, attended by almost half of the university’s 140 black graduating seniors, followed separate celebrations that honored Asian American and Latino seniors in the weeks leading up to Penn’s general graduation ceremony today
Marked A$$: Your article about the separate ceremonies were in addition to not in spite of. So basically they had a separate ceremony to celebrate their graduation — sort of like the bachelor party and the bridal shower. They both party separately, but they STILL end up together at the end.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this
Marked As$:
Republicans only leave after everyone DEMANDS their resignations, (or after they’re booted out of office), take ur pick.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,I think you are trying to change the subject. The subject for today is “Racial balancing in schools”. I have never heard of any “Appalachians” or mountain people complaining about diversity
I was just responding truthfully AND factually to another poster, who mentioned it FIRST, (I wonder why you didn’t “rebuke” him?). I know how you republicans just HATE facts!!
In fact, they are noted for their independence and hard work when the going gets tough
It’s REAL tough there. They account for 60% of ALL welfare recipients — not blacks, not illegals, not hispanics. hmmm I wonder why THAT’s never mentioned?
By Markus
December 4, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoneWrong said:
“I often wonder if he’s [Sharptongue] a plant for the Conservatrons to keep the talk on race and not substance. IF he was, I wouldn’t be surprised.”
Just when I think the kook fringe left tops off their black helicopter conspiracy theories on Republicans, along comes that gem.
There’s hardly a day that doesn’t go by when our beloved AJC Al-Jazeera Constipation doesn’t write a story about race. The latest racial assininity from the AJC was about no blacks being represented at the Country Music Awards show. So by your logic then, the AJC must have some Republican plants as well.
Who’s fault is it that race is kept alive and well and not substance? Not the Republicans, that’s for sure. Blacks have a higher obesity and diabetes rate than whites, but it’s of course mucj more important to worry about blacks being bused into white neighborhoods.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this
Oh yeah, where were Al Gore Sr. and Robert “Grand Kleagle” Byrd on the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
Hey everyone, except you, can change. Changing values can have a big part in it, as well as realizing that what you were taught just wasn’t true. Only a fool keeps on the same path relentlessly without examining the direction their going in.
Well, only a fool and Dubya, (who brings fooldom to a new level!!)
By jbmlaw
December 4, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this
Dear Debbie @ 2:11, I glad that you acknowledge the standing held by Dr. Sowell and Dr. Williams. As Dr. Tom and Dr. Walter are both past 75, that means they were going through the “diversity programs” of the 1940s and 1950s. Is your comment an endorsement of those 1940s diversity programs, as they are undoubtedly different from those of 1970 onward? As far as that goes, Condi is my age, and I remember Jim Crow here in the South. She did it herself; the black folks I knew had no alternative then.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this
Who’s fault is it that race is kept alive and well and not substance? Not the Republicans, that’s for sure
Two Words, Willie Horton.
Blacks have a higher obesity and diabetes rate than whites, but it’s of course mucj more important to worry about blacks being bused into white neighborhoods.
Two words: Jim Wooten.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this
“Hey everyone, except you, can change. Changing values can have a big part in it, as well as realizing that what you were taught just wasn’t true.”
Yeah I know DebbieDoneWrong, I know. Those guys were RATs, so it was ok. An apology was ok. Any Republicans are stripped of power and ostracized and condemned to hell.
But having said that, I wasn’t born into bigotry, so I don’t need to change, and I damn sure would never change from being anything other than a Reagan Conservative.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this
Debbie, Debbie, Debbie…
Who’s fault is it that race is kept alive and well and not substance? Not the Republicans, that’s for sure
“Two Words, Willie Horton.”
Yeah and truck-dragged Byrd, and slaves, and slave ships, and on and on and on. If it weren’t for Jesse “Corporate Shakedown” Jackasson and the Sharptongue reminding us daily of race issues, we conservatives would be living in pre-‘64 mentality like you liberals still do. Look at the posts from your leftist bretheren on this blog. Listening to them one would think we’d go back to lynching and segregation if we reverse some of the socialist racial policies like forced racial balancing in schools.
Blacks have a higher obesity and diabetes rate than whites, but it’s of course mucj more important to worry about blacks being bused into white neighborhoods.
“Two words: Jim Wooten.”
And I half expected you to mention Rush. What, is Wooten the only spokesperson for black people now?
You aren’t having a good day today, are you Debbie?
By Jogger
December 4, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
When I was in high school (MO) they started busing after I graduated from high school in 81. Then that only lasted a few years- parents did not like their kids getting up real early to go to school.
I do not think you should bus students. I think if the parents/families can live a neighborhood that has great schools- let them; and for those who do not, they need to figure out why their school is so below average. It could be because of the family situation (no two-parents) or lack of parent interest.
Then again, if you can afford it- send your kids to private schools.
By Dusty
December 4, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
You twist and turn in the wind. White recipients on welfare may be the largest percentage because they are the largest percentage of the TOTAL USA population. I doubt that “whites” are broken down into Appalachians, Southerners, Northerners or any other classification. When you give us accurate facts we pay a lot of attention.
DIVERSITY is not the only means to “rise” in this world. People like Frederick Douglass rose from slavery to become intellectuals. There are others who did so without diversity. You don’t give the black race much credit.
By deegee
December 4, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
Crusty, you never heard of mountain people complaining about diversity? Zell Miller, your own shining example had plenty to say about diversity in the 60’s. In 1964 and 1966, he unsuccessfully sought the Democratic nomination for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives and both times endorsed segregation.
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this
DebbieKnowNothing,
For anyone who hasn’t been on a campus in the last decade or two, the mere existence of racially segregated orientations and graduations might seem unbelievable, a throwback to the Jim Crow past. Unfortunately, the Jim Crow past is the present in academia, where administrators are obsessed with dividing, categorizing, and socially engineering their student populations. There’s seldom a college or university today that doesn’t have racially segregated student unions, dormitories, fraternities, and sororities for black, Asian, Hispanic, and gay students.
1.)Antioch fell off the rails in the late 1960s, symbolized by civil rights pioneer Bayard Rustin’s resignation from the Board of Trustees to protest the establishment of a Blacks-only segregated dorm. This was no administration-instituted segregation; the administration acquiescenced to student demands for a “Black Power” dorm.
2.) Cornell is one of the most segregated institutions in the United States. Its black students live in all-black dorms — a privilege officially denied to other ethnicities and races at the school. Most black students attend classes at the Africana Studies Center at the north end of campus, where they never have to mix with the general student population. At Africana, they are taught by a faculty infused with the humors of political correctness, anti-white racism and a pseudo-Marxist contempt for American institutions and principles. Here they learn that “only whites can be racist” (because only whites have power) and that slavery in Africa was not really bad, (because it wasn’t “capitalist” and the slaveholders were black…
Don’t like Cornell Grad, Ann Coulter? Read this.
Had enough?
By Randy
December 4, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this
By Randy
December 4, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this
Ah hell Jim, the social engineering liberals won’t be happy until we all succumb to the in-your-face black race baiting.
Then we’ll all be in black face and looking to vote demonscat.
Ridiculous.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw: now u wish to rewrite history, how very republican of u!! these comments, while ridiculous, do not even necessitate a response, (lawyers!!! sigh),nor debate because they are historical facts. Look up the percentages of blacks hired in higher government, (local, state, federal), BEFORE the civil rights movement, then after the civil rights movement. Why do you think they HAD a movement in the first place? Because they were HAPPY with the status quo?
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,You twist and turn in the wind. White recipients on welfare may be the largest percentage because they are the largest percentage of the TOTAL USA population. I doubt that “whites” are broken down into Appalachians, Southerners, Northerners or any other classification. When you give us accurate facts we pay a lot of attention.
you should go to that libertarian website, Cato Institute, or the DHS GOV site, they break it down by race, gender, etc. and YES Dusty it IS broken down by geographics too.
DIVERSITY is not the only means to “rise” in this world.
who said it was? where did you see me post that?
People like Frederick Douglass rose from slavery to become intellectuals. There are others who did so without diversity. You don’t give the black race much credit.
oh please, stop, you’re making me laugh!!! DIVERSITY didn’t rise anyone up!! It was the access to GOOD EDUCATION, EQUAL opportunity, and their own get up and go!!
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this
Yeah I know DebbieDoneWrong, I know. Those guys were RATs, so it was ok. An apology was ok. Any Republicans are stripped of power and ostracized and condemned to hell
Words without ACTION mean nothing. u should know that! I am not ANTI-republican, I have voted for a few in certain instances, i am ANTI-CONSERVATRON, these are two different sets of political ideaologies; not the same one.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this
Danish Cow: Please read, and try to comprehend, my post of 2:22 p.m. Moo.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this
What happened Debbie? You challenged someone to put up proof of modern segregation in college graduation ceremonies, and now having had that proof of TRUTH shoved down your throat you say nothing. This is why dealing with you liberals is such a damned waste of time.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this
uh oh Danish Cow!!! i actually clicked on that link you gave, saw that Ann Coulter was named as a source, then clicked on the link to Cornell University……..guess what I found??!!!
That’s right!! Guess what, The Assoc. for African Am. (blah, blah), is an INSTITUTE OF STUDY, (program), not a place where people live!!! Duh!!
Oh and at Cornell they also have the: Feminist, Gender and Sexuality Studies program!!! Do u think that they graduate on women from their too?
By Markus
December 4, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this
Debbie:
“Words without ACTION mean nothing.”
Yeah. Tell me how Al Sharptongue’s ACTIONS after words (or Jesse’s) have helped reduce black obesity and diabetes rates, let alone black male high school dropout rates.
“I am not ANTI-republican, I have voted for a few in certain instances, i am ANTI-CONSERVATRON,”
So you are a liberal. If you’re anti-conservative, that means you are a liberal. And don’t give me that Libertarian BS. Libertarians are fiscal conservatives who want limited government yet support socially liberal policies. Based upon your posts, you are to the Libertarian party what Jumpin’ Jim Jeffords was to the Republican party.
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this
{{{By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this
Moreover, many colleges have separate dorms and even separate graduation ceremonies which were established in response to different groups who demanded that they be allowed to segregate themselves
Name one.}}
DebbieDumbA$$,
I answered your freaking challenge with more than 6 examples.
Period. The End.
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO yourself.
By RW-(the original)
December 4, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this
Do u think that they graduate on women from their too?
Anyone that would write that sentence has no business discussing education.
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
Markus,
DebbieDimBulb is just a more obnoxious example of an ignorant Leftist.
Look! I found an example of a college that DID have segregated dorms but decided to change that policy.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this
BD-
Now you know why wasting your time “debating” with these liberals is ultimately a lost cause and a waste of time. They don’t want to hear the truth. Their truth is what they feel and everything else be damned. I gave her a link too, and guess what. It was ignored faster than a homeless person’s job offer.
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this
Is there even one person out there who needs to read another word from Markus, Buy Danish, RW, or Dusty?
Forgive them, it’s the forceps talkin’.
I know it. They know not how retarded they are, for can any of us know ourselves as others see us? NO.
They’re all four excellent bloggers.
yeah
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this
RW,
I do thank DebbieDoWhine for pointing out that colleges are teaching all sorts of garbage like Feminist, Gender and Sexuality studies in addition to segregating their dorms and graduation ceremonies at the request of black, Latino and other perpetually miserable and perpetually ignorant ethno-centric students.
By Midori
December 4, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this
I see all of the racist, scumbag wingnuts have finally found a home.
There IS a God.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this
Wow talk about twisting facts!! I went to the Vanderbilt site: Guess what?! NO mention of “race only” dormitories, however they DO have an African American studies program, (but it’t not separated by a set-aside dormitory for black students.
Here are other living/learning programs at Vanderbilt: In 1987, the Department of Fine Arts joined the endeavor. As a result, the McGill Project became a living-learning project for Philosophy and Fine Arts. (pssst — I bet they have separate graduations too!! those monsters!!)
McTyeire International House promotes the use of foreign languages and the awareness of different cultures. Who Can Live in McTyeire? It is not necessary to be a language major to be part of McTyeire’s language groups. In fact, one of McTyeire’s main attractions is the diversity of its residents. Residency is open to students of all majors and schools of the University.
Mayfield Learning Lodge The Mayfield experience requires dedication and commitment from all of its participants. The 2006-07 Lodges include:
“Justice for the Next Generation” “World Religions Conflict and Coexistence” “Education and the Digital Divide” “A Palette of Culture: Multiculturalism Through the Arts” “HOME: Homelessness Outreach Mayflield Experience” “Medieval Mayfield” “Biomedical Ethics” “Music (W.O. Smith School)”
hmmm my point to this Danish Cow is you can listen to the right wingnuts, listen to Rush, read what Anne Coulter has to twist into a semblance of a psuedo-fact, or READ IT FOR YOURSELF. Novel concept huh?
Here’s the link: http://www.vanderbilt.edu/ResEd/main/LLCenters.php
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this
Truth seekers,
Segregated dorms at Cornell, not from Ann Coulter.
Cornell University sponsors three race-based dormitories—the Latino Living Center, Ujamaa Residential College, and Akwe:kon. “Ujamaa” is a Swahili word that roughly translates to “How Stella Got Her Groove Back” (actually, it translates to “economic collectivism”). Ujamaa serves as the campus’ black dorm. Akwe:kon, a name difficult to pronounce because of the presence of a colon in the word, houses American Indians and preaches anti-Western values. Two of these dorms exist as a direct result of riotous protests and physical violence. Ujamaa was created following the 1969 armed takeover of Cornell’s student union; the Hispanic Center was born in 1993 after radicals assaulted policemen and stormed the central administration building….
Race-based dormitories are a crutch for emotionally unstable and politically brainwashed minority groups.
That^^^describes America’s DebbieDoWhines to a tee.
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this
To all the Goose-Stepping, Blind Following the Blind, Can’t Think For Themselves Conservatrons:
Reading is fundamental BUT Comprehension is the KEY!!! if u don’t understand what you’re reading, ASK A TEACHER!!! :)
By RW-(the original)
December 4, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this
Of course there is one place that the line must be drawn and diversity is no longer allowed.
On the surface, Columbia is all for diversity (good, very good) and completely opposed to intolerance (bad, really bad). On any given day, eager undergrads can speak out for Starbucks employees forced to make coffee with non-ergonomic espresso machines, or call for the school to install non-gender-specific bathrooms.
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoWhine,
Do you have a point??? Or are you going to bore us all to death with your pointless, never ending rage?
Residency is open to students of all majors and schools of the University.
Do you even know what the word ALL means?
By Markus
December 4, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoneWrong still doesn’t get it. Many times now posts of S-E-G-R-E-G-A-T-I-O-N-I-S-T ceremonies and living arrangements have been show, POST-1964 mind you, and not one word of rebuttal other than they were “ceremonial” in nature with regards to segregated graduation ceremonies. Oh I see. So just because it’s a ceremonial display it doesn’t mean anything. At least according to Debbie. Hmmm… kinda like Civil War reinactors waving rebel flags and pretending to shoot Yanks, eh? It’s all good I suppose.
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
Markus,
I’m not really debating her, I’m using her to make a larger point about all the Little Debbies in America.
By RW-(the original)
December 4, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
“I’ve been waiting a long time to learn what a women’s studies degree does. My guess is it qualifies you for a future teaching women’s studies,” said Professor Mike Adams of University of North Carolina at Wilmington as the students laughed loudly and applauded the debaters.
I’m sure you’ve read some of Mike Adams’ columns about what goes on in various University “study” programs. Many more are in his book Welcome To The Ivory Tower of Babel
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
Truth seekers,Segregated dorms at Cornell, not from Ann Coulter.
If they REALLY wanted to know the truth, they’d do what I did — GO TO THE COLLEGE’s WEBSITE AND READ IT FOR MYSELF!! Oh, but I forget, a truthful fact to a conservatron is like kryptonite to superman — lethal.
Political 4skin: They put the “Stew” in Stoooooppidd!!! I have never seen so many people so scared of a fact before………it would be funny if it wasn’t so dang sad!
By Markus
December 4, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this
Penile Snakeskin-
“Is there even one person out there who needs to read another word from Markus, Buy Danish, RW, or Dusty?”
Look ^^^^up^^^^ to the top of this blog. It’s called THINKING RIGHT. If you candyassed liberals get all upset at we Cons being here, then you need to saddle up your little Red Rider and move over to Lukovich’s blog… permanently.
Oh yeah, and I’m not a “neocon.” I was never a liberal. Look it up…
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this
Marked As$: No words of rebuttal? How about GO TO THE COLLEGE’s WEBSITE AND READ IT FOR YOUR own ignorant self?!? (Instead of your source being a republican right wing rag that u call a magazine of “truth”) Jeesh!! Talk about scared of truth!!!
By DebbieDoRight
December 4, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this
kinda like Civil War reinactors waving rebel flags and pretending to shoot Yanks, eh? It’s all good I suppose
Yep, sure is. I have nothing against civil war buffs, (i’m one myself), so you can get off of that dead horse.
oh well, enough playing with u brain dead loosers, later gators! (Go Florida!!!!)
By RW-(the original)
December 4, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this
I guess this blog doesn’t put your text in blue if you italicize a link. The 4:43 about Columbia is a link as is another one that hasn’t posted yet.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
Here’s that link again DebbieDoneWrong about segregational ceremonies at colleges. I know in your mind it’s only a graduation ceremony and that they all graduate together at the end, but hey, so do Georgia Tech and Georgia students… and UCLA grads, and Stanford grads, and Harvard grads. Hell EVERYONE always graduates together in the class of ‘06, or ‘07, or ‘08…
The disease of the brain known as liberalism always shines forth in the end.
http://aad.english.ucsb.edu/docs/wmay6.html
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
RW,
DebbieDoWhine is so overcome with rage that she missed the part in my original post that said that Vanderbilt had separate Graduation ceremonies.
And I guess Robert Byrd can dust off his KKK outfit now too because according to DDA, it’s all “ceremonial”.
I posted this earlier about how these pathetic losers are destroying English Literature too. In case you missed it
By RW-(the original)
December 4, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this
Polly Prepuce,
How was City Burlesque night at the Star Bar?
I’m sure you’ll be rushing back down there on the 6th.
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
Penile Snakeskin!! Great stuff! bravo!
ROTFLMAOWMCOOMN !!(rollonthefloorlaughingmyassoffwithmilkcomingoutofmynose)
you got me good that time.
wow. needed that laugh!!! The visual alone is going to keep me in stiches for hours. maybe i’ve misjudged you.
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
RW,
This blog also does a poor job of listing numbers - they end up coming out like polka dots of various sizes if one is not careful.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this
Run Debster run! You have had no less than a dozen examples of modern segregational ceremonies, yet you choose to ignore them and cut-n-run from your own arguement just like your Pelosicommie party on 9/11 Commission recommendations. What the hell else is new.
By RW-(the original)
December 4, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
DebbieDumbA$$ is posting so much incoherent gibberish every 30 seconds it’s hard to tell what she saw and what she didn’t.
That link is dead on with respect to the bastardization if English Lit studies. It’s all a part of liberalism trying to destroy every aspect of our culture and values so that they can build their utopia.
The only way enough people will ever be dumb enough, at the same point in time, for that to happen would be to give the government full control of our education system. The left has been griping about NCLB for six years, but I bet they’ll love it when they get to administer it and we all go to the Hillary plan of turning your children over to the government and letting them come back all molded a few years later.
(That was Hillary wasn’t it? Maybe it was before her time on a different Continent, but right up her alley)
By Markus
December 4, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
Straight from the horse’s (or is that jackass’s?) mouth: Supreme Court Justice Stephen G. Breyer says the Supreme Court must promote the political rights of minorities and look beyond the Constitution’s text when necessary to ensure that “no one gets too powerful.”
Well, I guess all those liberals squawking about going outside of the Constitution is ok if it suits their cause. How typical of a Clinton appointee.
And on campaign finance,
“You don’t want one person’s speech, that $20 million giver, to drown out everybody else’s. So if we want to give a chance to the people who have only $1 and not $20 million, maybe we have to do something to make that playing field a little more level in terms of money,” he said.
No word from him or democrats on George Soros.
http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2006/12/03/ap3223390.html
By getalife
December 4, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
It is great to see my wingnut friends have cut and run from ml’s blog.
Although we rule both blogs, I am willing to compromise and allow you to spew here but not at ml’s.
Stay here with your sheep or prepare to be owned.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoneWrong-
“(Instead of your source being a republican right wing rag that u call a magazine of “truth”) Jeesh!!”
Go back and re-read my posts and links and tell me WHICH “right-wing rag” I linked to. I’ll be waiting for your apologies, not that I expect you as a candyassed liberal to apologize when you expect everyone else to when they are wrong.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this
Heh, gotnolife is back on line after Debbie’s b!tchslapping.
“Although we rule both blogs, I am willing to compromise and allow you to spew here but not at ml’s.”
Well sister, your cohorts aren’t doing very well over here today. Do we have a bad case of the Mondays? It’s always easy to pretend that something is true when it isn’t, eh my little neoStalinist Utopian-seeking liberal? Yeah that’s right, stick that head back in the sand like Pelosicommie on the 9/11 Commission recommendations. HAH!
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this
RW,
Didn’t Hillary want us to turn our children over to a universal tribal village?
By Markus
December 4, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this
Well well well. Gwynut Cowtow now says she’s “proud to be American.” Just like the Dixie HOs it’s real easy to trash your own nation when overseas. What the hell is wrong with these dumbassed Hollytoon liberals?
http://people.aol.com/people/article/0,26334,1565719,00.html
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this
Marcus,
I think Ms. DebbieDumbA$$DoRantDoWhine was talking about my links to Front Page Magazine which is run by the former Leftist, David Horowitz.
To paraphrase Jack Nicholson, She can’t handle the truth.
By RW-(the original)
December 4, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
getalife,
You couldn’t rule a My Little Pony Dream Castle, but thanks for your input.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this
BD-
You nailed it. Horowitz is a neocon. These jackass liberals that throw that word around don’t even know what it means… even those clowns elected in Washington.
The truth destroys liberalism every time. That’s why they can’t stick to an issue. Just look at the backtracking of Pelosi & Company’s backtracking on tax cuts, 9/11 Commission recommendations, and immediately pulling out of Iraq.
By RW-(the original)
December 4, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
I think she had a book called It Takes a Reeducation Camp or something like that. Instead of the Stepford wives we’d have Klinton Kidz.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
Gotnolife-
You couldn’t rule a straight line.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
December 4, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this
Actually, most campuses allow segregated housing for gays and lesbians - most closeted homosexuals live in residential buildings called “fraternities” and “sororities”.
By Political Foreskin
December 4, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this
Yeah! What is wrong with the Hollytoon liberals?
Another coup by Markus~! He got “dumbassed” by the filter.
Markus, I owe you an apology. You are obviously more clever than I could have imagined. You can figure out the words that would have been censored by mere mortal bloggers and somehow get them through. You, sir, ARE something special.
I feel horrible that I didn’t dig you B4, man. I only hope that you would be kind enough to accept my apology, and I’m on your side now, man.
go Markus, uh huh, you bad, uh huh, we down with you, you bad, you groovy, you bad, uh huh
And then, as if this weren’t enough of a red letter day, look at Buy Danish’s last comment!!! A jack nicholson reference that actually rocked!!! I am humbled, I am ripped apart, and I offer my total good wishes in the coming holiday season.
I think part of the problem and I hate to admit this, but I haven’t been reading you guys at all. I’d maybe review the last post you made and then jump all over it without really reading it, so that I probably am guilty of what I accuse you of: Not reading wooten’s blog or digging it.
SO anyway, if you would be so kind as to accept my sincere apology, then it’s yours.
By RW's Double Standard
December 4, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this
RW @5:11 “DebbieDumbA$$ is posting…”
Yesterday – RW @6:33 “you can just call me RW, if you feel the need for all the name calling…you certainly seem bitter…”
RW likes to dish it out, but he doesn’t take it very well. Poor RW. He certainly seems bitter.
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
RW,
You got it! The Klinton KOS Kidz robotons no less.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
Lib Qaeda-
Ask me if I give a flying pigass what you think. Please.
By getalife
December 4, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this
Have you noticed that w is sounding just like Baghdad Bob?
See for yourself
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
December 4, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this
Behind on my blogging today, thankfully - PoFo, in Markanus’s case, it is important to remember that abortion cures all birth defects…
Would that his mother had had the right to choose, and had chose wisely…
Instead, civilization is stuck with her poor choice.
By RW-(the original)
December 4, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this
Double Standard aka CJ @ 5:55,
Listen up moonbat, I said you could call me RW if you would like and it saved you time. I also said you could call me any freaking thing you desire because it doesn’t bother me the least little bit. Just trying to save you a little trouble slick.
Besides,DebbieDumbA$$ has earned her name and deep down she really likes it when I call her that.
By Markus
December 4, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this
Lib Qaeda-
You must have missed my link earlier on abortions and cons outbreeding libs. You people are non-breeding and non-familyling yourselves right out of existence.
You won’t be missed. [smile]
By Political Foreskin
December 5, 2006 08:29 AM | Link to this
They had the entire Supreme Court debate on Cspan.
There’s a logical flaw here. If the imbalance is created by skin color, and the remedy criteria is skin color, then to argue that reverse discrimination occurs in the remedy is to semantically neuter justice.
That’s like saying to imprison a kidnapper is to kidnap the kidnapper and thus the sentence itself is a crime.
What I heard from Supreme Court yesterday reflects the vestiges of slavery that lingers in our contract law. Very discouraging.
By Markus
December 5, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this
Penile Snakeskin said:
“What I heard from Supreme Court yesterday reflects the vestiges of slavery that lingers in our contract law. Very discouraging.”
No sh!t. My 1:39PM post yesterday already said that. Get to the back of the bus mofo, the good old days are coming again.
Man please.
By DebbieDoRight
December 5, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this
You did waste a lot of time trying to refute something I never said by going to Vanderbilt website to dispute that they had segregated dorms which I never stated. I included them in a list of colleges that have separate graduation ceremonies
Danish Cow: Heifer u sure can lie!! here’s your post from yesterday and exactly what you said:
By Buy Danish
December 4, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this
If the Supreme Court acts responsibly and ends this despicable practice of busing children in and out of their own communities in order to achieve the racially divisive goal of “diversity” then we can thank George Bush for appointing conservatives to the Court.
Busing is one of the many egregious legacies of “liberalism”. I would note that Jim Wooten’s comparison of neighborhood schools to colleges in this instance is not even a valid one, because, among other things, college is a voluntarily pursuit and students are not forced to attend colleges out of their district to achieve racial balance.
Moreover, many colleges have separate dorms and even separate graduation ceremonies which were established in response to different groups who demanded that they be allowed to segregate themselves - and whose ridiculous demands were met by p.c. University muckety mucks in stunning acts of hypocrisy.
Then later on you mooed this one out:
By Buy Danish December 4, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this DebbieKnowNothing, For anyone who hasn’t been on a campus in the last decade or two, the mere existence of racially segregated orientations and graduations might seem unbelievable, a throwback to the Jim Crow past. Unfortunately, the Jim Crow past is the present in academia, where administrators are obsessed with dividing, categorizing, and socially engineering their student populations. There’s seldom a college or university today that doesn’t have racially segregated student unions, dormitories, fraternities, and sororities for black, Asian, Hispanic, and gay students. • and more) The Washington Post reports that Vanderbilt, Washington University in St. Louis, the University of Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, and Berkeley were some of the more prestigious institutions to hold minority graduation ceremonies this spring.
I correctly pointed out that the “separate living for Black students rant” was nothing more than your racist little eyes seeing what you wanted to see because I went to the college websites, (known as THE SOURCE) and found out that that wasn’t true.
Honestly, you moronic righties make this too dang easy. I need more of a challenge. Dubya needs another drink. Mooooo.
By DebbieDoRight
December 5, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoneWrong-“(Instead of your source being a republican right wing rag that u call a magazine of “truth”) Jeesh!!”Go back and re-read my posts and links and tell me WHICH “right-wing rag” I linked to.
Marked As$: Dummy i wasn’t even talking to u!! Honestly can’t u republictrons READ without moving your lips?!? Duh!