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Post-election, Rumsfeld, cookbooks
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thinking Right’s free-for-all Friday. Pick a topic:
• The president’s right. It was a thumping. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. It hurts. But I am old enough to remember the gloom that descended on Georgia in the days after Lester Maddox was elected governor. And those were the darkest. He was a decent governor. Georgia survived. Conservatives will, too.
• Dark days for Republicans nationally, dark for Democrats in Georgia. Republicans won state House and Senate seats they should have lost, and made others — including the congressional seats held by Jim Marshall in the 8th and John Barrow in the 12th — far closer than they should have been.
• History, and military historians, will be kind to Donald Rumsfeld. While Rumsfeld and his generals might, in retrospect, have made different decisions here and there, including Fallujah, his strategy was sound, his insistence that the United States not prepare to be an “occupation” army was wise, and his leadership was just what a nation at war needs.
• Republicans now rule the roost under the Gold Dome. The lesson of this election: Stand for something. Think big and do it. Cut taxes, don´t raise them. The GOP in Congress had 12 years to make a difference. The Georgia GOP can’t count on any more.
• October was the year’s best month for stocks. But. Strategists wary. But fewer than half of Americans own stocks. Gas may be cheaper. But. Could go back up. Wages and benefits July-September rose at the fastest pace in two years. But. Consumer confidence slips. Unemployment fell to a five-year low of 4.4 percent last month. But. Housing’s slumping. Jim’s happy he’s on vacation. But. The mosquitoes could be biting. Oh, woe.
• New attention to two cookbook classics — Mrs. Dull’s 1941 “Southern Cooking,” just reprinted by the University of Georgia Press and “Joy of Cooking,” a new version of which hit the bookstores this week — evoke memories of a Southern childhood. A new bride got pots and pans and Mrs. Dull’s. Anybody who showed promise with Mrs. Dull’s was a candidate for “Joy of Cooking.”
• The U.S. Supreme Court takes a Georgia case overdue for resolution. At issue is whether police can use deadly force against a fleeing motorist who is suspected only of speeding or driving recklessly. No, they shouldn’t.
• In the “No Duh” Department, Aisle 1: A Syracuse University professor, Arthur C. Brooks, reveals in a forthcoming book that religious conservatives, regardless of income, donate substantially more than secular liberals to charity. “In the book, to be released next month,” reports the Syracuse Post-Standard, “he cites extensive data analysis to demonstrate that values advocated by conservatives — from church attendance to two-parent families to the Protestant work ethic and a distaste for government-funded social services — make conservatives more generous than liberals.” Actually, liberals give more. Government’s their vehicle.
• Regional department stores disappear. The Christmas shopping season approaches without Chicago’s Marshall Field’s, latest to go. On reflection, it’s amazing how little department stores seemed to matter after Rich’s, and especially the downtown store, disappeared. Marshall Field’s was a part of Chicago’s flavor. The demise of locally owned department stores distresses. And takes all the fun out of being a last-minute Christmas shopper who could find something appropriate.
• Toll lanes for buses and trucks, proposed for parts of I-285 and I-75, are the way to go. When congestion-relief needs are far greater than available money, as is the case in metro Atlanta, it just makes sense to farm out part of the solution to the private sector. The trick is to make certain tax money “saved” is not then spent on frivolous transportation buys.
• See above for the prime reason Statehouse Republicans need to retool government. The private sector has a vital service-delivery role. The public sector’s job is to set priorities and performance standards, guarantee that the work is performed at a fair price — and police the contracts without getting too cozy with companies.
• More than half of the transportation projects scheduled for this year in metro Atlanta got under way. All types were delayed, but bicycle and pedestrian projects were delayed more, with 73 percent delayed and 5 percent getting dropped altogether. That is as it should be. Both are primarily for leisure, not getting there.
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By Mid-South Philosopher
November 10, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
Like NCLB, I doubt you and I will ever agree on the contribution of Donald Rumsfeld. While I concede that his “lean, mean, fighting machine” strategy was extremely effective in the initial phases of combat, neither he nor “Georgie” Bush ever realized that Iraq would require a longer occupation than, perhaps, we were willing to do. At any extent, I do not share your optimism for the Rumsfeld legacy.
The more I watch this President, the less I am able to fathom his logic. Likely, if Bush had dismissed Rumsfeld three weeks ago, the Republicans would have retained control of the Senate and would have reduced the margin of victory of the Democrats in the House. Could it be that Karl…Haldeman…(excuse me)… Rove is slipping?
Wonder if Dick Cheney is nervous this morning?
Consider this scenario:
Let’s say that in February, due to the excuse of health reversals, Cheney resigns, and the President, acting under the provisions of the 25th Amendment, nominates Condoleezza Rice for the office of Vice President. The Congress, albeit controlled by the Democrats, would be hard-pressed to deny her the office. That would place her in a strong position to claim the Republican nomination in 2008. The “Condi vs. Hillary” contest may not be that far-fetched!
Ridiculous, you say?
Given “Georgie’s” logic, I wouldn’t be surprised to receive a call from him any day offering me the Secretary of Education position!!!
NOT!
By jbmlaw
November 10, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this
Good morning, all. Hope vacation has gone well Jim. Of all of the interesting and vital topics above, the one that seizes my imagination is the “shooting speeders” US Supreme Court case. I know my conservative friends wince every time I argue for repeal of all traffic laws, especially when I argue that our police should not waste our tax dollars enforcing laws that serve no purpose but to impoverish the population.
Having said that, the sovereign State of Georgia has the right to determine whether our police can use deadly force on speeders. There is no arguable preclusive Federal interest. The Supreme Court should use the case to say that citizens deserve the governments they elect.
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this
History, and military historians, will be kind to Donald Rumsfeld. While Rumsfeld and his generals might, in retrospect, have made different decisions here and there, including Fallujah, his strategy was sound, his insistence that the United States not prepare to be an “occupation” army was wise, and his leadership was just what a nation at war needs
Jim, where are you taking your vacation? NeverEver Land?
The U.S. Supreme Court takes a Georgia case overdue for resolution. At issue is whether police can use deadly force against a fleeing motorist who is suspected only of speeding or driving recklessly. No, they shouldn’t.
Wow, I agree with you!!! It must be snowing in h3ll!!!
By harold
November 10, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this
Why should police not use deadly force against a fleeing motorist who is suspected of speeding or driving recklessly A motorist is using deadly force every time he starts his car. Speeding and driving recklessly thru traffic are deadly forces no different than someone standing in the mall taking potshots with a gun.
Bicycles and walking are primarily for leisure? Wooten must live in one of those 20th century style clearcut housing projects where it’s 2 or 3 miles to the arterial and then a few more miles to the grocery store.
The reality is that bicycling and walking are the primary modes of transportation on the planet. Motor vehicles are in fashion right now for America but this is not sustainable and shall pass. The cities that are prepared for when bicycling and walking are again the primary modes of transportation (in conjunction with a good subway system) are the ones that shall thrive. The sprawl cities like Atlanta are going to die on the vine like their morbidly obese citizens who drive to their own mailboxes and snack the whole way.
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this
Sonny’s “Joy in Cooked Books” is a big hit in Georgia.
The old south, gerrymandered by slavery, is still casting shadows on an electoral map. We have a great future.
Rummy made the general mistake of coveting an army he could not have.
Haggart made the cardinal mistake of coveting an ask and tell for which he’ll bask in hell.
Eulogy for the fallen Neo-cons: “Let us not make more out of them in exile than they were in power. They saw war and rubber stamped it. They saw a surplus and spent it. They took the secular and made it sacred.”
Rosebud to Rummy: We’ve been occupying countries since world war two. And we might run out of countries to occupy……….in 60 years. (grin).
By Dusty
November 10, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this
Jim,
I agree with you about Rumsfeld. The man has given almost his entire life to public service. So what thanks does he get? Mostly a stab in the back. His many accomplishments are ignored. His so-called mistakes are flown like banners. Military deaths are blamed on Rumsfeld while the honor of those who died is celebrated by cartoons, accusations and doubt about our fight against terrorism.
Those who sit in their armchairs “throwing stones” at Rumsfeld can only do so if they are perfect themselves. Rumsfeld was doing what he thought was best. Much of the time he was right.
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this
With all the free samples food corporations mail to consumers, the mail box at the end of the driveway is the new drive thru. “Yes, I’d like a granola bar, a mini-box of new improved Captain Crunch, and a post-dated powdered latte, please”
Yesterday I got mail marked, “return to binger”.
October was a great month for stocks, and CEO’s. Ken Lay’s golden parachute extends posthumously as the cases against him are summarily dismissed. Where is Captain Bligh, who would insist upon all 125 lashes even if the poor sod died at lash 17.
I approve of the use of deadly force against blogging trolls. That’s for sure, that’s for dang sure.
By Ben
November 10, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this
History, and military historians, will be kind to Donald Rumsfeld. While Rumsfeld and his generals might, in retrospect, have made different decisions here and there, including Fallujah, his strategy was sound, his insistence that the United States not prepare to be an “occupation” army was wise, and his leadership was just what a nation at war needs
Rumsfield’s imcompetent insistence that our Army Not be an Army of occupation is what is driving the morass in Iraq. History will be neither kind nor forgiving to his blindness of the reality of the war he prosecuted. He will be the McNamara of our times. Maybe in a few years he too will come out with a feeble apology for his actions. But I doubt it.
By ed lorenzo
November 10, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this
RUMIE’S PENSION
“Thanks for coming Don”
“Always a pleasure Mister President. Do I detect some apprehension? Probably it is my state of mind. You know, retired people are always fearful of pension plans, health care, mortgages, taxes, etc. Now, what do you want?’
“Well, it is the pension arrangements that I want to talk about”
“What about them?”
“We are going to have to cut back on a few things. With the new team in charge, we are no longer free to grant special benefits to our loyal collaborators. We are dropping the Iraq Premium of six million a year, then the Pentagon Retirement Subsidies of nine million dollars. As Secretary of defense, you lose the Hummer, the Jag, the Chrysler, the Cadillac and the Sedwick along with the 4 million dollars a year expense allowance. The Energy Department has withdrawn its offer to contribute 10 million dollars a year to your fund”
“So, what the hell am I left with?”
“How about a new job? We have some guard openings in Guantanamo”
By ed lorenzo
November 10, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this
HOT DATE
“George, what is the matter with you today? You have already taken two showers, shaved twice and used half a gallon of French cologne!”
“Not to worry First Lady. I have an important appointment later this morning and must appear more attractive than usual. I am going through all this trouble because of my loyalty to the party and my love for freedom and democracy. Not to mention my stated aim to protect America. You see, in the performance of my duties… “
“George cut the BS. You sound like a freshman on his first date. You better come clean or I’ll talk to Mother Barbara”
“No, please, not that. I’ll tell you but only if you promise not to tell Cheney or Condi”
“Cross my heart. Who is it?”
“Nancy Pelosi!”
By Watta Load
November 10, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this
Jim, I know you love the car but some of us do spend a lot of time getting around on our feet or on a bike and not for leisure…I often bike commute to my job…bike lanes that exist at all are a joke…they go about 200 meters and just end. I really don’t see why you cling so tenaciously to an automobile only culture…are you afraid any non-car culture will turn Atlanta into some sissy eurotrash-like city? Being conservative is one thing but you often sound just like an old curmudgeon.
And why all the decisive doom and gloom…is one political party just supposed to suffer while the other leads and vice versa…why not be part of the solution instead of part of the problem?
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this
I think the Keystone Cops, in the silent film era, set the standard for high speed chase ethics and practices.
They killed audiences without warning.
By harold
November 10, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this
Conservatives harp about making our nation safer and reducing our dependence on foreign oil, but when it comes up, a reduction on foreign oil which would make our nation safer (bicycle and walking facilities) is the first thing on the chopping block.
This sort of hypocrisy is far worse than the gay meth preacher and is also far more prevalent.
America should reduce its dependence on foreign oil and make itself safer!! as long as it doesnt mean giving up your fat SUV. Got it.
By harold
November 10, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this
if people did not waste so much money on cars but instead invested that money they could retire by age 50. instead they drive cars and get fat and work until they are 65 or older and have little to no savings for retirement.
no matter how high your income might be, every day in a car is another couple days OFF your retirement.
By getalife
November 10, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
Can you feel it?
Can you see it?
There is a huge dark fog lifting from our country.
The wrongs are being righted.
Good has triumped over evil and our country is headed in the right direction.
The world is cheering with us and waiting for more accountability for all the gop disasters like Iraq.
By Curious Observer
November 10, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this
The general dominance of Republicans in the South in the face of sweeping Democratic victories elsewhere points to a long-existing trend: the South has never conformed to the rest of the nation, and it never will.
We have a population that is still fighting the Civil War—a population that looks backward for guidance. In most cultural indicators, the South holds fiercely to the traditions outlined in Cash’s landmark work The Mind of the South. Last to integrate, first in line to administer the death penalty, resentful of governmental efforts to alleviate poverty—these are just a few of the differences the region has with the rest of the nation. The old license plate that reads “Fergit hell!” is still applicable.
Perhaps it is a good thing to have Republicanism confined to a regional enclave. In that way, the more pernicious effects of the party’s governing philosophy are mitigated.
The South will not change, except in major urban areas. It is pointless for Democrats to run candidates for any of the major state offices. In the future, the Democratic party ought to focus efforts on the rest of the nation. Let the South lag behind, as it always has. And make sure that national funds are not allocated to support its backwardness.
In many ways, Pope-al Queda’s observations about the region are accurate, if somewhat exaggerated. We ought to give up on any pretense that the South will ever conform to national trends. It never has changed fundamentally, and it never will.
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this
Off Topic: I want to give a quick shout out to the brave woman who fought back against her attacker. Too bad he died though, because that as$ whipping she gave him should’ve taught him a very valuable lesson:
“I’ll take your abuse but dont mess with my children.” The most dangerous animal in the world is a female protecting its young.
By crispxbike
November 10, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this
What a myopic self-righteous person, manifesting short term thinking. He likely would have called the Wright flyer a curiosity or Thompson measuring the properties of the electron academic folly.
Thinking Right… NOT. “Both are primarily for leisure, not getting there.”
Excuse me, but LIFE is suppose to be about leisure, health & family. Not feeding toll booths. Perhaps someone needs to reconsider their priorities.
By SharonH
November 10, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this
Curious observer is dead on. The old Georgia Democrats are the new Republicans. The more things change, the more they stay the same. eh?
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this
Rummy’s favorite Stone song? “Not fade away”.
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
Cartoon Idea: Show Rummy as our army’s quarterback fading back to pass right out of the stadium.
By Dusty
November 10, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
Curious Observer,
You lag so far behind in the times, that it is almost incredible. The South has always been a place of charm, intelligence and strong convictions. Many immigrants head for the South because they know they have a better chance of fairness in opportunity here. They prefer what the South has to offer over the ghettos and hidden discrimination in other parts of the country.
Pick and choose your books that do not reflect well on the South. The fact is you can find books making unpleasant claims about almost any part of our country if you look for them.
The South overcame with great travesty it’s earlier problems. It came out better, clearer in its convictions and a great place to live. We only smile politely over those who blindly make false assumptions in retrospect and don’t see the shining future of the South.
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this
Show Rummy’s “transformation” army idea on himself, first as a brash and bold commander standing obnoxiously tall and wide and stiff, and then show him as he is now, sitting in an armchair saying, “If I could have had just fewer men…”
By Bella
November 10, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this
Wooten:
How can history be kind to Rumsfeld’s arrogance, obduracy and recalcitrance?
No one is all good or all bad all the time. But as Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld was a train wreck.
By Dusty
November 10, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
Pofo.
Try to keep up. Luckovich has already done the armchair Rumsfeld “cutie” of the day.
By Elizabeth
November 10, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this
My Georgia-born husband and I are moving to my home-state of North Carolina in January.
We believe there is much more of an inteligensia there, better schools, an thinking electorate and politicians who can see beyond the Deep South GOP propaganda.
We are done with the political wasteland here.
By Jasmine
November 10, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this
Talk about the GOP if you will but I like their hard stance on illegal immigration. All of you should too because if you don’t, America is going to be very different. Then, you will wake up crying…
By the way, I am a southern born, Black woman…
By Dusty
November 10, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
Ah Elizabeth,
Have fun. I can see that you will be a great contributor to the fertile political fields of North Carolina. Humility, an open mind and loyalty are always great assets. I hope you not only find them but also acquire them.
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Talk about the GOP if you will but I like their hard stance on illegal immigration.
If the GOP or anyone in poltics were really serious about illegal immigration, then they’d go after the employers of the illegals. If the illegals did not have any jobs then they wouldn’t stay here.
Politicians are just giving lip service to its constituents so that they can pretend to really care.
By JK
November 10, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
The “sovereign State of Georgia?”
Um….. since when? There was a nasty war about a hundred forty-some years ago, the outcome of which determined that Georgia is NOT a sovereign state, but a part of the United States of America, “one nation, under God, indivisible,” yadda yadda. And if you THINK it’s a sovereign state, why does the state goverment grovel for their share of Federal funds? DOH!
By jbmlaw
November 10, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this
Dear Elizabeth @ 10:28, you are totally correct about North Carolina. My younger son, the genius, recently finished at Chapel Hill, received a great education, and once fed up with the pedantic intelligentsia always making decisions for the great unwashed, fled the state for the warmer and friendlier confines of Pensacola and the Navy. Amusingly he finds he has more control over his own life in the Navy than he had as a civilian in the Peoples Republic of Chapel Hill. I hope you get what you seek.
By getalife
November 10, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
The gop are the silent minority.
They are irrelevent.
Is it just me or has w lost his swagger and his fake tough guy act?
Dems rule the majority.
Sit back and let them clean up the gop mess.
By Jim's a Driver
November 10, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
wattaload,
Right on…Jim’s pretty shortsighted.
I ride my bike to a bus stop, take that bus to arts center, take the train to work, then take the train back to arts center and ride home. Usually stop by the grocery store on the way home and pick up dinner. Each trip takes 45 minutes. If the weather’s bad I drive to Lindbergh and park, then take the train from there. Haven’t been on an interstate in months, and haven’t started my car in over a week.
On the crappiest, snowiest, darkest, wettest, holiday rush-hour, my commute would be 45 minutes, desk to couch, tops.
Driving is for suckers. Let them eat cake. I love seeing traffic backed up on 285 and 400. Love it.
Some more bike lanes would be nice, but if i ever get a ticket for riding on the sidewalk i’m sending the bill straight to Shirley Franklin.
By Watta Load
November 10, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this
Dusty much of what you say about the South has merit but I think you attribute strong convictions with what I would call a tendency toward “group think” which gives the rest of the nation the view of the south that Curious Observer has “observed” as close mindedness. And with the exception of Atlanta, the south still has the reputation as being backward, whether earned or not.
For the record I was born in SC and have lived in the south all my life with a couple of years in the NE and a couple in California.
By joe
November 10, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
forget rumey!!!! what about the add shirley franklin did? she is a racist piece of crap. if white people did something similiar the whole town of atlanta would be demanding an apology.i can appreciate the civil rights struggle and using it as a campaign tool to advance a colleague in the democratic party is disgusting and a slap in the face to all african americans. and the same goes for andy young and john lewis as well.like i said if white people did something similiar the town would be freaking out right now. i hope this campaign add really turns around and bites them in the a*.
By Jim's a Driver
November 10, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this
Oh, and get this…
The traffic is sooo bad up where I work that my company pays for my monthly marta card, and a coalition of local businesses associated with the clean air campaign pays me to ride my bike. Those two things, plus the gas I save not driving 25 miles a day plus the money I save not joining a fitness club (i’m riding my bike every day) comes out to about $200 a month.
If I charged myself $10 an hour for the time I’m saving not sitting in traffic and the wear and tear on my truck, that number is easily $300 a month.
I’m interested to hear some negative loudmouth smack about that.
Of course, Jim’s dirty little secret here is that he probably makes enough money to either live close enough to work to not have drive much (Morningside Jim? Inman Park, perhaps?), or he just works from home.
Most folks don’t have that luxury Jim. They’ve gotta sit in that stinky traffic, eating up their days and running up their blood pressure.
Thakns Atlanta Developers! Great Job!
By Emily
November 10, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight
The GOP is in bed with business, which is why they will never do anything substantive to curb illegal immigration.
By Cletus Snow
November 10, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this
Elizabeth you will discover when you return to the tarheel state that unless you are inside the iron triangle, that the level of stupidity is about the same. hopefully you will reside in western NC where the scenery is so fantastic,and by the way Don’t let the door hit you in the a55 on the way out.
By time for the truth
November 10, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
J. Lewis is a nasty black bigot, and so are the other two black bigoted cronies who made that shameful vile racebaiting radio ad for a meaningless local race. I am sick and tired of the nauseating utterly blinkered pandering Lewis still enjoys. Undeniably his LONG AGO stand against racial oppression is worthy of great respect -but when he behaves like a thuggish racebaiting black KKK scumbag and openly defies every one to call him on his lies and sick racism/bigotry and almost no one does. This is a truly disgusting moral and political sickness and shows whites and the rest of us exactly the kind of racism/bigotry so many blacks and their leaders still eagerly perpetrate and unquestioningly subscribe to.
The blatant racial pandering in the AJC’s “story” on this is little more than a mealy mouthed token neutral commentary. The AJC wont robustly and legitimately criticise one of their black heroes because of their slavish (circulation losing) multicultural black pandering. There is NOT the tiniest, slightest grain of truth to Lewis’ lies, and anti-white racism. Contrast this with the outrage and hysterical finger pointing when whites use factually correct and legitimate “stereotypes” about whites. The “stereotypical” imagery and rhetoric Lewis used is thankfully now from two generations ago and will never return.
Lewis despicably uses his now increasingly ancient past to ‘innoculate’ himself from any criticism - that shows how weak, spiteful and hateful the man really is!!
YOU’RE A NASTY BLACK BIGOT JOHN LEWIS …. deep shame on you
Now watch the vile pathetic racial panderers dredge up Lewis’ past to justify lies and sick racism 40/50 years later.
Ritalin Debbie is right - this lady who was forced to defend herself and her kids from this animal is the hero of the day - unlike a certain black bigot hero of many many yesterdays ago now.
Bush is now deservedly a lame duck. His pathetic moronic handling of the election campaign and afterwards has handed a needless, but happily far from irreversible (temporary) advantge back to the cut and run scum. THE HILARIOUS - HUGELY AMUSING DAMN FUNNY thing about this though is that the leftist congressional vermin, most of whom campaigned about Iraq and how best to cut and run are now faced with the reality that their liberal heroes are hitting them them with the stark reality that there will be NO cutting and running. NO withdrawal date, NO immediate retreat etc - which is what most far leftist wankers obsessively demanded and expected.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA … still LMFAO!!
At least Sonny’s magnificent effortless reelection will shortly rid Dixie of rednekkks NAMBLA - or was this execrable human scum just lying again? Like all those cowardly neo-com Hollywood liars who said they’d leave for Europe when Bush won and was reelected. Rednekkks lies like a Klinton!!
BYE BYE REDNEKKKS … NOT!! …huge expose the leftist liars smirk
Harold’s insane ever more deranged obsession with cars is very pleasing. How the hell does the eco nutter harold expext folks will get around to their jobs/families/schools/shopping/leisure activities? Walking - bicycling? Yeah right … folks will happily walk or cycle from kennesaw/canton/rockdale/douglasville etc to the perimeter or butthead every day to work. Everyone should be made to cycle 10-20-30 miles or more one way for their commute. Especially in the GA rain and storms. Plus the joys of sharing the (cycle lane) road with the all the lorries and out of state traffic passing through to and from FL etc would be a total pleasure.
time for the truth knows harold has had his driving licence taken from him by concerned mental health officials and for repeated DUI offences. harold needs to devote all his energies to show the kind folks in Cobb Co that harold is worthy ONE DAY NEXT CENTURY IN HIS NEXT LIFE of getting his licence back.
By Michael
November 10, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
Sidewalks only for leisure?? I live in Midtown and work at the Perimeter. Sidewalks and MARTA are how I get to work. Sidewalk infrastructure changes people’s habits. Before the Perimeter CID started putting in sidewalks, every trip from my office required a car. You would really be putting your life on the line to walk anywhere. Now my entire office will at least walk to lunch, and many of us now have Mass Transit as a viable option. I’ll never understand why my fellow Conservatives are such terrible city planners!
By Delia
November 10, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this
Georgia IS a great state. BUT it is politically out-of-step with the rest of the nation.
Not surprising considering Georgia and the rest of the Deep South has a long track record of being out-of-step on a lot of things.
And if you think things are PERFECT in Georgia, then you wouldn’t be writing in this blog.
And I AM a Georgian!
By Van
November 10, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
getalife,
And what makes you think the democrats won’t bring in their own messes?
Can you conver republican cap with democratic cap and call it cleaned up?
Get real, the place won’t change, just the c*ap.
By JK
November 10, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this
I’m not particularly impressed or moved by the last minute, race baiting ad for John Eaves (although I had already planned to vote for him.) I think it’s a bad idea to keep the race wars alive when we should be working together going forward.
BUT… I have to say it’s hi-freaking-larious to listen to the Republicans squawk and screech about the ad, when they use the same fear tactics all the time. Remember Saxby Chambliss putting Osama’s face next to Cleland’s face in his TV ads? Talk about having no shame whatsoever! (Cleland is no more a friend to Osama than Lee Morris was ready to use firehoses…)
But they played to fear and prejudice, and it worked. The Eaves camp no doubt thanks you for the useful lesson. Now continue your squawking! Hahaha!
By harold
November 10, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this
troof, you know as well as harold that if there were bicycle facilities from canton to the perimeter (or whereever the cantonese work) that during rush hour you could bicycle to work FASTER than you can drive down 575 and then 75.
20 years ago it would’ve seemed ludricrous to ask peopel to drive 90 minutes to 2 hours one way to work, but now it’s quite common. a 30 minutes bicycle ride to work may seem ludicrous, but there’s no reason it cant become commonplace too
By Dusty
November 10, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this
Watta Load,
I think you spent too much time in California.
There is no “group” think in the South. That is why we are so distinguished. We can think for ourselves and that is very irritating to those who want to tell us how to think.
Southerners came to the fore when establishing a country for freedom. Do I need to mention Washington, Jefferson, Madison, and even Patrick Henry who knew how to express his thoughts on freedom. They were the men of strong resolve. It hasn’t changed here.
I don’t care what “others” say. If they want to look down on one part of the country, I dare say their own is not perfect. It isn’t “group” think. It is clear observation, as I have lived in other parts of the country which were nice, but I am here where I want to be, the South.
By CB
November 10, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this
Jim, you said republicans won state House and Senate seats they should have lost, and made others — including the congressional seats held by Jim Marshall in the 8th and John Barrow in the 12th — far closer than they should have been.”
Who are you kidding? The 8th and 12th districts were redrawn specifically to elect republicans. The incumbent’s hometowns were drawn out of the districts to increase the chance of electing republicans. The fact that republicans weren’t elected is further proof of how incompetently this entire adminstation has performed.
Also, you’re guilty of a little revisionist history. I believe most georgians were thrilled with the election of Lester Maddox. Finally, someone who would say out loud what you were thinking.
By akbar
November 10, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
Nothing is going to change in Washington except the names of the thieves who are robbing this country blind. Izrael will continue to collect it’s ten plus billion dollars of american tax dollars per year(every cent of which is borrowed by uncle stupid), the systematic murder of Arabs will continue in the name of democracy and freedom, and the plans for oil, water, and electric pipelines to Izrael from Turkey and Kurdland will be fully funded by the new Congress. The day the american dollar dies will draw closer, in large part because of the pro izrael lobby and the half trillion american tax dollars that have been borrowed by the treasure over the last 50 odd years that have been given to izrael. You can add another half trillion dollars for the neo-con sponsored pro-izrael invasion and occupation of Iraq. If the neo-scum also attack Iran, add in another trillion dollars, and just maybe the death of the dollar in foreign exchange markets.
By Ellen
November 10, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
Conservatives get off your high horse over the John Eaves ad.
Remember George H.W Bush and his Willie Horton (black man out on parole) ads?
Both political parties run inflammatory ads to play to our unspoken racial fears and stereotypes.
Doesn’t make it right; but both parties do it.
By White Jesus
November 10, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this
Crusty,
Southerners came to the fore when establishing a country for freedom. Do I need to mention Washington, Jefferson, Madison, and even Patrick Henry who knew how to express his thoughts on freedom. They were the men of strong resolve. It hasn’t changed here.
The history of Virgian colonization and Georgia’s are apples and hamburgers.
What history books are you reading woman? Newt’s?
By getalife
November 10, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
Admit it “neocons”, your party are losers and failures.
Get over it.
Climb down from your fake high and mighty pedestal.
You are the silent minority and have been wrong about everything.
Bow down and be humble for you are defeated failures.
By time for the truth
November 10, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
in all seriousness you’re a complete idiot harold … who the hell would cycle - EVERY DAY or even most days - from say Canton to the perimeter, or other simliar distances? Its a long long bike ride - up hill in many places. Its not just a question of “speed” - it is entirely a question practicalities. It would NOT take just 30 mins from Canton to I-285 - and then more miles down to your office or wherever. Very few ordinary bikes and riders are capable of doing that day in day out - let alone willing - you’d have to be fairly young and pretty fit to even try and have a very light cycle and cycle clothing … and in 100.F+ heat/sun in the summer late afternoon on the way back - with all the fumes … DREAM ON HAROLD!!
By harold
November 10, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this
But Troof, if everybody did it only one day a week our traffic would be 80% of what it is right now.
And no, people from Canton probably arent gonna bike to the perimeter, that is a bit far, but people in marietta and smyrna sure could, and people around alpharetta/roswell could bike to permiter mall office area easy, anybody ITP could ride downtown to work easy!
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
Next Week: Baker’s Bombshell on Iraq.
Watch it confirm Bob Woodward’s dire assessments on the best seller list.
Will Bush pardon Abrahmoff when his term expires?
How do you tell when an administration goes sour when it’s already rancid?
By Dusty
November 10, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
White Jesus,
Why don’t you read a history book? I am talking about the founding of the USA. You know. Your country. Got it?
By Markus
November 10, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
JK-
“I have to say it’s hi-freaking-larious to listen to the Republicans squawk and screech about the ad, when they use the same fear tactics all the time.”
What the hell ads have YOU been watching from the GOP and “scare” tactics? I doubt VERY SERIOUSLY they equate with black churches burning, black people being dragged behind pickups, old people being pushed down wheelchairs, people dying because of the LIE that stem cell research will be banned (that BUSH signed in to you jackass LIARS), and most recently, black people’s very lives depending on Republicans not gaining power.
Give me a break already dingbat liboRATs. You people on the horseass left have NO shame. Disgusting pigs.
By Michael
November 10, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Ellen - Wow. The 1988 Bush attack on Dukakis furlough program that allowed convicted felon Horton out of his life-sentence (and provided him the opportunity to commit rape and robbery) is JUST LIKE the 2005 racial attack on the completely decent Lee Morris.
I admit that the Horton issue was very poorly handled, and I said so then. But that was 19 YEARS ago! This is an issue of today!
“On November 7th we face the most dangerous situation we ever have. If you think fighting off dogs and water hoses in the ’60s was bad, imagine if we sit idly by and let the right-wing Republicans take control of the Fulton County Commision.”
I have been a strong supporter of Mayor Shirley Franklin, but man, does the John Eaves ad make me steam. Will this be featured in the new Civil Rights Museum?!? Who are the racists now?
BTW - The people with the water hoses in the 60’s were DEMOCRATS.
By Advisor
November 10, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this
100 days after the dollar dies in foreign exchange markets, everyone in AmeriKa will be wishing they had a good bicycle with a cart. That two ton suv in your garage will be just another stationary burden. A man can walk at a sustained pace of 3 miles per hour, he can bicycle at 15 to 20 miles per hour. The day Akmed and Akbar take control of their own oil from the hands of the amerikan pupet government in Saudi Arabia will be the birthday of the bicycle in america as the primary means of personal transportation.
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this
Kerry today suggested that Rummy go back to college and finish his education. (fox news)
By Markus
November 10, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this
gitmolife-
I hate to rain on your little commie parade there, but your “victory” wasn’t a victory for your neoStalinist liberal left. First, it takes a SUPERMAJORITY of 60 votes to get anything passed in the Senate. Second, if you don’t think people will reject the horseassness of liberalism, just get in there and try it on the People. Third, Bush will lift a chapter from the Clintoon book and pull out that V-E-T-O stamp of disapproval at every RAT corner.
By Watta Load
November 10, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
Well Dusty I disagree, I think you are lost in some “Gone with the Wind” dream of this region…distinguished is not a word I would use to describe most of the people in the “deep” south…(Virginia and even NC really don’t count)
And face it, if it weren’t for Atlanta, Georgia would be in a stupidity tie with Alabama and Mississippi.
Instead of using their intelligence to broaden their depth of experience, southernors gravitate to ideas that confirm their bias.
You call that convictions, I call it intellectual laziness.
It’s true elsewhere but particularly in the South.
And people are migrating here for the weather and cheap housing…not to absorb southern charm.
By Mom
November 10, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
Markus, come here, it is time to change your diaper, again. Stop make do-do, you dumb dumb
By Markus
November 10, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
Two things that makes me smile about the RAT victory:
Ann Richards never lived long enough to see it, and Cynthia Jihad McKinney won’t be around long enough to enjoy it. HAH!
By getalife
November 10, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this
macaca,
Do you think w and cheney will get away with the Iraq disaster?
Get real.
They are next.
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this
Bush defines our mission and victory in Iraq as: “A free, self-governing Iraq that can sustain and defend itself with it’s own police and army”.
The Shia Majority in Parliament want US permission to unleash the Iraqi Army to end the “violence”.
Bush’s very definition of victory in Iraq equals genocide in Shia Minds.
Democratically elected Shia Leaders have their own, “Sunni Do List”.
They’ll do the Sunnis alright.
Our elected majority has a Speaker. (elocution). The Iraqi’s elected majority has a Reaper. (execution)
This is what Baker will say: that we must allow the Shia Majority to ethnically cleanse the Sunni Minority or we must repartition Iraq into Three New Countries. Of course our incompetent handling of THAT will cause WW4, but who’s counting?
By Jim's a Cherry Picker
November 10, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this
Jim,
Aren’t you embarassed that the people who most closely align themselves with you on this blog are the most hateful, ill-tempered, foul-mouthed, shortsighted, and unreasonable of the bunch?
What does that say about conservatisim?
I think I’m going to start saving some of these posts in case one of them ever gets loose and there’s a trial.
By jbmlaw
November 10, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this
Dear Jasmine @ 10:37 and Debbie @ 10:49, please note that the WSJ editorial page and I are both conservative and free-immigrationists. You have seen me so-write my views on this blog; the WSJ has its statement in today’s editorial page. My republicans had an intra-party debate, and my side lost (or, at least, lost the first round.) I do not recall discussion among the Democrats; what is the attitude there? I think you both suggest that Democrats favor free immigration?
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this
Baker will say that the Iraqi Army needs to work hard, and apply itself if it wants to stay stuck in Iraq, or else they’ll end up in school…..sleeping with schools of fishes, that is!
By jbmlaw
November 10, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this
Dear JK @ 10:50, good question. Answer: 9th Amendment to the Constitution, although, as Robert Bork aptly noted, the activist courts of the post-Roosevelt era have turned the 9th Amendment into a black hole
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
“MY FAVORITE WAR” by Donald Rumsfelds
Excerpts of the NY Times Bestseller:
“The very best military experience in war I had was when Ronald Reagan starred in “Hellcats of the Navy”, man did we give it to the Nips that day!!!
I think it was sweeps week.
Pick up a broom, Rummy, and fade away.
By Van
November 10, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
Michael,
Only problem with your arguement, Willie Horton was first used by Al Gore against Dukakis in the primaries in ‘88.
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this
Donald Rummy is talking about remaking “A Few Good Men”, with “Two Men and a Humvee”.
By jbmlaw
November 10, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this
Dear Ellen @ 11:39, you said GHW Bush, but did you not intend to say AlGore? AlGore ran the Willie Horton ads long before GHW Bush.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 10, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this
The Pope prognosticated that the Repukes would win on Tuesday, but that the tftt/tommys, Mark*anuss, jbms, et. al. of the world would still be losers.
The Pope was half right, and 100% right about the halfwits.
tftt/turdburglartommy, I made reservations yesterday to fly to Europe Christmas Day (back to Bucharest) and to South Africa a couple of weeks later. I’ll be back late February, but for only a few days. I’m leaving Georgia 28 February, for good. I leave you to the mountains and molehills and your fellow morons in Georgia.
By jbmlaw
November 10, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this
Dear Getalife, I have a comparatively serious question, not baiting you for a change. If the Democrats fail to impeach anyone in the Bush administration, will you regard the Democrat Congress as a failure?
By Dusty
November 10, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this
Watta Load,
If you stick around long enough, southern charm will be greatly diminished.
So, Virginia and North Carolina don’t count? Intellectually lazy? You mean like you redrawing the Mason Dixon line?
Maybe you are Elizabeth or her husband. Whatever. Southerners keep the door open. You can come or GO. Au revoir. Translation here means: good riddance.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 10, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this
Wow, foreskin, that Rummy is quite the soldier!
Speaking of battle-weary warriors, did you know Realisp once rode a horse while wearing a Confederate uniform?
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this
I tried to join the military and do my duty twice. I applied to the Air Force in 1974 and 1979. Both times, even though I was two seconds from joining, the deal fell through.
In 1974, I just sat down at a recruiter’s desk and said, “Where do I sign?” The recruiter, smelling a liberal hippie drop out loser, started the interview with, “How many parking tickets do you have outstanding?” None. “How many speeding tickets have you had in the past two years?” None. “Have you ever smoked marijuana?” Well, I was surprised, and with the detailed questions about my driving record, I felt that I couldn’t answer the question, and I retorted, “I understand, you cant have your officers smoking dope.” I got up and left. I found out later that the Air Force in 1974 was a Bong with Wings.
In 1979, I took the application test where the Air Force tries to measure your general aptitude. The recruiter said that he’d never ever seen a higher score than mine. I told my brother, who was in the air force, and he said they say that to all the ‘tards. I was crushed so I didn’t show up for the swear-in. I still cant go within 500 miles of Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio Texas, or I end up in Gitmo.
In fact, everytime a jet passes over head, I turn on my radar jammer.
By getalife
November 10, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this
In case you missed it, Rush fooled you “dittoheads”. The lib hatred was all a skit. Ann is going to prison.
Try something new losers.
Give the Dems a chance to clean up your mess.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 10, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this
Markanus thinks it’s great that Anne Richards is dead.
I think it’s great that Markanus’s parents are dead, but it would have been much much better if they died before they conceived Markanus.
By jbmlaw
November 10, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this
Dear Van, you are faster on the draw than I. I salute.
By Elizabeth
November 10, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
Dusty:
Virginia & North Carolina are the South BUT they are not the DEEP South.
There IS a difference!
And Watta Load is not my husband. But clearly he’s another intellectual.
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
BTW - The people with the water hoses in the 60’s were DEMOCRATS
Who are now REPUBLICANS, (Gingrich, Sonny, et al.)
Ann Richards never lived long enough to see it, and Cynthia Jihad McKinney won’t be around long enough to enjoy it.
Cynthia I can understand, but why the hate for Ann Richards?
By Political Foreskin
November 10, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this
I just realized that every single word Bush has spoken to the American People since 911 has been spin.
Not just on Iraq, but every single issue. It’s Rove’s way. We cant let Rove get away with this. He goes down with Bush. Prison is the only end game I’ll accept for Bush/Cheney/Rove.
The Nerd-n-Kurd Trials!
By Middle America
November 10, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this
I had my suspicions that Wooten was a bit off kilter, but now I know it for a fact. History will be kind to Rumsfeld? His strategy was sound? His leadership is what the nation needed during a war? Somebody is still drinking the Bush kool-aid, even though Bush isn’t making it anymore. Don’t look now Wooten, but it ain’t kool-aid your drinking. It’s p-i-s-s as it passes out of the nation’s system.
Seriously, how could anyone think Rumsfeld did anything that he should be remembered for in a positive light? Maybe he did some things to modernize the military, but as a leader and strategist, he was a hack. As far as I’m concerned, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al will be ridiculed as fools in historical terms. Not only for their poor decisions, but how they constantly mocked anyone with a differing opinion on the war, including some of their own colleagues, like Colin Powell. No Wooten, Rumsfeld was no leader, and neither is Bush or Dick. And you’re a fool too.
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
Dear Jasmine @ 10:37 and Debbie @ 10:49,…..My republicans had an intra-party debate, and my side lost ….I do not recall discussion among the Democrats; what is the attitude there? I think you both suggest that Democrats favor free immigration?
I suggested no such thing. What I said was that NEITHER party wants to stem illegal immigration; if they did, they’d go right for the heart of illiegal immigration, employers granting illegals JOBS.
By getoveryourself
November 10, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
Rednecks—
Can’t you see that Douchebag Markus exhibits the typical behavior of a douchebag. Also, his delight at the death of Anne Richards further exhibits his uselessness to society and as a human being. Douchebag Markus is as scummy and lowdown as they get.
By Dusty
November 10, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this
Elizabeth,
You are a lot of fun. Well, bless my soul, etc…
“Another intellectual”!! You mean there are two?? I thought you were the only one.
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this
Gore never used a Willie Horton ad, first or at all; the republicans did. This is history — the republicans have already admitted to doing it and why.
Shirley Jackson: Is GOOD for Atlanta. She’s the only elected mayor in the past 20 years who really cared about the city enough to want to fix its problems and not pass it on to the next guy. Now according to the AJC article she says,(paraphrased), “Yeah, I said it and I stand by it”; which is more than any politician has ever done. So let’s move on. She’s not going to apologize — she’s not ashamed by what she said.
Some say it’s race baiting, I personally did not like the ad, but, since I don’t live or vote in Fulton county; (which I bet some of you don’t either), I’m not going to let it bother me. Race baiting in poltics go hand in hand.
By Middle America
November 10, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
Here’s what we should do in Iraq:
1) Kill Moqtada al Sadr (I’m sure it is misspelled). He is the biggest thorn in the side of peace in Iraq. His militias are the ones doing the ethnic cleansing of Sunnis in Baghdad. The Malaki government won’t do anything about him, in fact they’ve told the US, hands off. But the Sunnis will never negotiate in good faith with this Shia led government as long as it condones al Sadr’s actions. The US military should kill him and try to weaken his militias in the process. Malaki will throw a fit and tell us to leave. But that’s what we want to do anyway, so who cares. But we will have left a situation that is more plyable to a settlement.
2) Reduce the footprint of American soldiers in Iraq, leaving only strategic forces, special ops, logistical help, to aid the Iraqi army. Offer them air support as well for Iraqi army operations. Obviously this can’t be done overnight, but on a reasonable and safe timetable.
By Middle America
November 10, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
Her name is Shirley Franklin, not Jackson.
By Watta Load
November 10, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
Touche Dusty…
Sorry…I’ll probably stay here for awhile…I like the weather and cheap housing.
I’m not associated with Elizabeth, but I grew up in North Carolina as well as going to a well known University there so I share her fondness for the state.
Anyhoo…the Mason Dixon line really isn’t relavant anymore…the demographics of NC have been changing for years, much to do with the high tech corridors that NC is famous for, so culturally the state has been moving away from southern influences, and VA is even more so. This is a nice article from Wikipedia about the south and it mentions the changes that have happened in VA and NC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SouthernUnitedStates
I love the south, and Georgia but I think we have our problems…and often misplaced priorities…I mean I was in a store in Douglasville one time and this redneck wanted to fight me…why? Because I bought a pepsi instead of a coke…who fights over soda preference?
But I’m curious, have you ever lived in (not just visited) another part of the country?
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
And before anyone hollers “race-baiting” again, remember Harold Ford, (Tennessee)? Wasn’t that just a few weeks ago?
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this
Thanks!! Shirley Jackson is a gospel singer, Shirley Franklin is mayor of atlanta. Sorry!!
By Watta Load
November 10, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this
I had a lot of respect for Shirley Franklin until that ad…I border Fulton and Dekalb so I feel that her policies effect me.
The demographics are changing in Atlanta…the possibility that a white person could be mayor again is no longer an impossible notion…I think the current power structure knows and fears this…I thought Shirly Franklin was above all of that but apparently not.
By Dusty
November 10, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
You have opened a Pandora’s box here.
You said Race baiting in politics go hand in hand and this ad doesn’t really bother you because it is not your county.
Does race baiting in either/any direction anywhere bother you? Is one more vile than the other?
As ‘tis said”I wonder as I wander”. See ya later. I must wander.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 10, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this
The Terrible Truth About Rednecks in Georgia - they are racist, and stupid, the children and grandchildren of Klansmen.
They LOVED it when Lester was Guvnuh, almost as much as they love Goobernor Perdoofus.
By CJ
November 10, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this
Van @12:38 and jbmlaw @12.41 —
Both of you are misinformed, as usual. Just because Sean Hannity says something, doesn’t make it true.
As always, you both form your conclusions first and then cherry-pick the facts or, if they don’t exist, the lies to support your radical ideology.
By Curious Observer
November 10, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this
Provincialism, bellicosity, prejudice—Dusty’s comments validate my earlier comments about the South. For every getalife, there are three Markuses, with an abusive, narrow-minded TFTT thrown in.
By Van
November 10, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
CJ
You mean Al Gore did not bring up the furlough program during their debates?
I wasn’t talking about the ad, just the stigma of the failed program.
By Ron - Atlanta
November 10, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
• The president’s right. It was a thumping. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. It hurts. But I am old enough to remember the gloom that descended on Georgia in the days after Lester Maddox was elected governor. And those were the darkest. He was a decent governor. Georgia survived. Conservatives will, too. – I remember the day W took office….it felt much the same as when Maddox took the governorship, except Maddox was probably a better student than W. • Dark days for Republicans nationally, dark for Democrats in Georgia. - Better the few suffer than the many. • History, and military historians, will be kind to Donald Rumsfeld. While Rumsfeld and his generals might, in retrospect, have made different decisions here and there, including Fallujah, his strategy was sound, his insistence that the United States not prepare to be an “occupation” army was wise, and his leadership was just what a nation at war needs. – How can his leadership be just what the nation needed? Even the generals have been complaining about his lack of planning and reality. The first issue we should never have been in Fallujah, Baghdad, etc. at all. If we were we should have had a plan to win the peace as well as the war. It really is not that complicated. As much money as we have pumped into Haliburton, if we gave each man, woman, and child $50,000 and said go build a new life for yourself…they would be the most welcoming people we’ve ever seen, and we probably would have saved ourselves money. The money from their oil fields should rebuild their country infrastructure (not that Haliburton has a done much of a job with that). You mention he insisted we not prepare for an occupation…his boss said we would be there for years to come and would not rule out a permanent base. How is that not occupation?
By Van
November 10, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
Please tell me how the ad against Harold Ford was race baiting. Do we not live in a country where relations between the races are accepted without rancor? It is for most sane, thinking people.
By Dusty
November 10, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
Watta Load, before I leave,
I’ll accept that NC & VA are not in the “south” if you will accept that Maine & New Hampshire are in southern Canada. Just ask Wikipedia who will repeat anything anybody tells them.
I HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED that I have lived for several years each in other states: Indiana , Kentucky, Pennsylvia plus two years postgrad Boston U. and many happy summers in Arizona. But here I am where I want to be. Yep!! Georgia!!
By the way, maybe the “gentleman” in Douglasville had stock in CocaCola or maybe it was Pope Rednecks. We have to be lenient with the few like Pope Red who are “lacking”. Bye now.
By Van
November 10, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
CJ,
BTW, it was not the Bush campaign that ran the ad against Dukakis, it was a non-related outside group - The National Security PAC. The same situation as George Soros’ Moveon.org is not affiliated with the DNC.
By Chazman
November 10, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
“before you leave”, why don’t you answer the question.
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,You have opened a Pandora’s box here.You said Race baiting in politics go hand in hand and this ad doesn’t really bother you because it is not your county. Does race baiting in either/any direction anywhere bother you? Is one more vile than the other?
The sad truth is No. Race baiting in either direction doesn’t bother me because I have become immune to it. I live in America and like I said before it’s a part of politics. If one group screams race-baiting it’s because more than likely, the other group scored a direct hit.
Is one more vile than the other? Heck no! They’re both vile; and since we are in 2006 and have gone through so much as a nation, we should have abandoned the practice decades ago.
By SPIN!!
November 10, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this
dear JBMLAW —-
I’m not getalife, but your question was a good one, so I hope you don’t mind my two cents.
In my mind, impeachment talk is just that — talk. Or more affectionately, SPIN!! Democrats are no more going to shut down the military in Iraq than republicans and they aren’t going after the president (despite what so many wack-os say they will do). I think both sides learned a lesson on Tuesday about the politics of the extreme and the Democrats (especially Pelosi) won’t be in a hurry to foul up presidential race 08 (she will leave that to Kerry — D’OH!)
By JP
November 10, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this
Hold on a minute. Rumsfeld is allegedly the guy who threatened to fire anyone planning more than 6 months ahead. Further, he insisted that we go in with far fewer troops than most experts advised—and we all know how swimmingly well THAT has turned out.
Given those two items alone, anyone who thinks “history will be kind” to Rumsfeld has to be an idiot.
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,Please tell me how the ad against Harold Ford was race baiting. Do we not live in a country where relations between the races are accepted without rancor?
Where are you from? Race relations not accepted without rancor?! There’s such a GREAT BIG DIVIDE in this country over race relations it’s not even funny!! Remember the OJ trial and how differently the races reacted to the innocent verdict? Remember Rodney King? Jamil Al-Amin? The guy in Texas who was dragged behind a truck? Skin heads? Farrakhan? David Duke?
It is for most sane, thinking people
Huh?
By JP
November 10, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
For the first time, I am embarrassed to be a Georgian. With so much to be upset about, Georgia goes blindly forward, voting for Republicans as if they still know what they’re doing. It could only have been more clear had Georgia bucked the national trend by throwing out Democrats IN FAVOR OF these losers.
Honestly, what a backwards bastion of Bush boot-licking this state has become. I figured in 2004 I was out of step the country—but now, I see it’s Georgia that is. I have made preliminary plans to move in the short to immediate term. You can have your smotheringly-conservative hell for yourselves, with its poster child for urban sprawl called Atlanta. I’ve had it.
By DebbieDoRight
November 10, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this
BTW, it was not the Bush campaign that ran the ad against Dukakis, it was a non-related outside group - The National Security PAC. The same situation as George Soros’ Moveon.org is not affiliated with the DNC.
Brief history lesson: There is no hard evidence, such as interviews or position papers, to indicate that Gore ever mentioned Willie Horton. Gore asked Dukakis whether or not he would extend Massachusetts-style furloughs to the federal level.
(2) Lee Atwater asked aide Jim Pinkerton for negative research to defeat Dukakis. The ad was produced by media consultant Larry McCarthy, who had previously worked for Roger Ailes. After clearing the ad with television stations, McCarthy went back and added a menacing mug shot of Horton, who is African-American. He called the image “every suburban mother’s greatest fear.”
(3) Ken Mehlman, went down to the NAACP in July of 2005 and apologized for the southern strategy of Republican candidates under Richard Nixon and using race as a wedge issue and that this ad does exactly that
(4)The ad tried to stoke subliminal racist fears of black men touching the white daughters of the South.
By CJ
November 10, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this
Van @12:38 “Willie Horton was first used by Al Gore against Dukakis in the primaries in ‘88.”
jbmlaw @12:41 “Al Gore ran the Willie Horton ads long before GHW Bush.”
jbmlaw @12:52 “Dear Van, you are faster on the draw than I. I salute.”
Van @2:28 “You mean Al Gore did not bring up the furlough program during their debates? I wasn’t talking about the ad, just the stigma of the failed program.”
Van,
Your 12:28 was misleading (jbmlaw’s post was a lie). Al Gore never showed anybody a picture of a scary looking black man. Your 2:28 was closer to the truth. Al Gore did criticize the furlough program in ONE debate (not “debates”).
Thanks for your half-a* attempt to correct your misrepresentation. I salute.
By getalife
November 10, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this
MSNBC LIVE SURVEY: 87% THINK BUSH SHOULD BE IMPEACHED…….
And Cheney too.
Say hello to President Pelosi.
Come on folks, you don’t think the Dems forgot about the gop’s vicious attack on Clinton to get him impeached.
Get real.
By getalife
November 10, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, September 2006 Nation Exclusive: Charges Sought Against Rumsfeld Over Prison Abuse A lawsuit in Germany will seek a criminal prosecution of the outgoing Defense Secretary and other U.S. officials for their alleged role in abuses at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo
Seriously, did you think they were going to get away with this crap?
Get real.
By Van
November 10, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight
What century do you live in - I see interracial couples all the time, it is no big deal.
Try going to a mall outside the perimeter sometime -
By Van
November 10, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this
CJ,
My first entry was 100%. Al Gore brought up the failed program to bring the tragety that Willie Horton created while taking a few days off.
Good old Al was smart enough not to make a specific reference, leaving Mickey with little or no room to defend the program.
This little reference was all that was needed to open the best negetive ad campaign.
By MrLiberty
November 10, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this
Rumsfeld is a war criminal, as sure and Ribbentraub, Goering, Goebbles and the other accused Nazis at Nuremburg. So is Bush, Cheney, Rice, and most of the administration. Add to that every soldier who “followed orders” and invaded the sovereign nation of Iraq without a constitutional declaration of war.
No, history will not be kind, nor should it be. The worst part is that Bush has likely already pardoned him in this country. Here, he should be stripped of his citizenship and shipped off to the Hague to await trial.
In 2008 we can ship the rest.
By Captain Freedom
November 10, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this
Jim,
A mere three days under your new liberal overlords and you go all soft like a woman who missed the latest segment of Oprah. Is this the onset of Vichy Journalism!?!?!?
Of course the police have the right to use deadly force on a fleeing suspect. This stands no matter how “trivial” the alleged offense. Because clearly, no one would run if they did not have something bigger to hide. It is simple logic to recognize that the people the police kill in such a situation could very likely be terrorists that could potentially kill your children as they sleep or plant explosives in the Tifton Agricultural Exposition and Local Pork Tribute Museum. Why, sir, do you wish to undermine our precious American freedoms?
While you are correct in noting that Commandant Rumsfeld will, in hindsight, be rankes with such warrior lumnaries as Lao Tsu, Clausewitz, and Klink, your creeping bedwetterism regarding the necessary codification and enshrinement of the right of police to eliminate terrorists and traffic scofflaws makes me wonder when the name of this column will change to “Thinking Whichever Way the Wind Blows: Please Let Me Keep My Cushy Job”.
By Brian Curtis
November 10, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
I suggest we hire a special prosecutor to go on a multi-million-dollar fishing expedition, digging into everything GWB has ever done, anywhere, including failed business deals back in Texas.
And then, if he doesn’t turn up anything, we spend several more years on digging until he hits on some actual criminal act—like, oh, let’s say everything to do with Iraq.
Doesn’t that sound fair? I know it’s a valid use of taxpayer money and government resources, because the Republicans have already approved it.
By Captain Freedom
November 10, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
Okay, Jim, the Captain was a bit too hard on you in the last post. I note that you find the spectre of Pelosi painful. I have to agree.
This woman has clearly exceeded the legal limit for facelifts. It is just plain gross. Ann Coulter (she who is delightfully winsome and hither come yon) is right — liberal “women” are just plain ugly, while our own Babes of True Belief are in fact hotties that threaten to disrupt the legilative process with their hottitude.
A short list will suffice to send all Right Thinking Americans scurrying for the hand lotion or a cold shower. To wit….Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Elizabeth Dole. Jean Schmidt. Laura “Pickles” Bush. Lynne Cheney. And my very favorite, Katherine “Pink Sugar” Harris, who alas has been sent packing by the ingrate liberal non-Christians of Florida. She will always have a place in my heart.
Katie…call me.
Sure, some might prefer the more overt sexuality of someone like Dr. Laura Schlesinger, but her exposed beaver performances leave nothing to the imagination. I prefer to spend time thinking about the more modest flowers of femininity, like Karen Handel, Linda Schrenko, and Ralph Reed.
Pass the lotion.
By @@
November 10, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this
Jim: No offense, but I don’t see anything I’d like to comment on. Some is water under the bridge and the rest is Atlanta politics, which doesn’t really affect me directly.
I’ll do the cookbook and add what I think is GREAT news if proven true.
I’m feeling a little nostalgic from your paperboy column the other day. Soooo…My daughter hasn’t been out of high school long, but during the time that she was living at home, I thought family dinner time was important. A hot, full-course meal same time everyday.
First it was a boyfriend that joined us every night for dinner, then it was a couple of his friends, and a couple more. Before I knew it I was feeding, at least three teenage boys every night in addition to my family.
It got to be costly and the husband didn’t like all those teenage boys around, but I couldn’t stop. Why?
Because they didn’t have family time or home-cooked meals at their house. Two of them still stop by when they’re home from college asking “What’s for supper?”
Since the daughter is in college, my husband wants to know “whats with the pasta salads and sandwiches?”
My response, I’m waiting for my boys to drop by.
Good news!!! I’ve heard that Michael Steele of Maryland has been asked to chair the RNC. I’m a big fan.
I sure hope they don’t call him a token. That would be ooohhh soooo wrong.
Bye.
By zeke
November 11, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this
Rumsfeld was a superior Secretary of Defense and should be lauded for his excellent work in this most critical period! All the democrats and media idealogs should be chastised for their constant babble about things to which they have no clue! The only semblence to Viet Nam is the constant liberal socialist banter that will not let the military do it’s job! Soldiers are trained to break things and kill people, not to be social workers or political hacks! If the liberal, socialist, flower child and hippie leftovers from the 60’s would shut their ridiculous mouths, this situation could be brought to a conclusion in a matter of months! Same would have happened in Viet Nam and Korea! If Iran, Syria, North Korea and even China and Russia continue to be part of the problem and not part of the solution, deal with them also!
By Political Foreskin
November 11, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this
Rumsfeld’s gaff, “you go with the army you have, not the one you want”, was a real put down and a barely-veiled threat to the soldier who complained about the fragile humvees he nearly got killed in.
Rumsfeld basically told him that he was a worthless pos, not nearly as good as the legendary legends in Rummy’s mind, and to sit down and stfu.
I would have fired Rummy right there. Rummy saw Patton 476 times, (true), and thinks soldiers should be cannon fodder and not heard.
Then in the last year, Rummy’s answers to the press were arrogant and sociopathically combative. He had plenty to do with the electoral route. He infuriated the American people. Ditto Rush. Ditto Cheney. Ditto Hastert. Bush was seen as a child, ultimately, who lies about sneaking cookies.
Rummy should go fishin’, although he wont take near enough bait, just like Iraq. He thinks soldiers are bait. “Private, you drive this vehicle down that road to see if there’s any IEDs”.
By Who Really Cares Who I Really Am, Anyway?
November 11, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this
Dusty… There is “no group think in Georgia?” ARE YOU KIDDING? When the cult-errr-church goers are told en masse who to vote for by their pastor, and do so based on what HIS opinion is, well then yes, by golly, group think is alive and well in Georgia!
Narrow minded group think, at that!
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 11, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this
The Germans will indict Rummy for war crimes in the near future. The Germans know one when they see one.
Rummy better careful if he travels internationally - he could end up in a plane to Berlin.
By Political Deckhead
November 11, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this
I guess @@ got lucky the other day with her amazing account of her newpaper route. (A+). Oh well, it was nice having a colleague while it lasted. Stick to cruel bashing, and felonious threats to the American People you disagree with, @@, and maybe someone will drop a dime on you in this time of war where all cyber-threats distract the CIA from their serious hunt for Red Osama. Then you’ll be behind bars with RW (rush wimpaw), and Andy (ditto headwound). It’s good to be with one’s own kind. It’s a good man who knows his own limitations.
I’m truly disappointed that your english teacher didn’t raise you to be a better writer. I remember English class. I was so horny then, I used to get wood conjugating verbs. I had to think about Gerunds to calm myself down. I always hated Gerunds. Even though english class was over forty years ago, I remember every detail: my socks were white; the Gerunds were gray.
I hated Similes too. “Like or as” my A*SS. Sometimes I’d split an infinitive or mispell onomatopoeia just to throw the teacher off, so she wouldn’t know how Mary Kay Latourneau-like I saw her as, if you know what I mean. (There are nobel prize winners dying of laughter right now).
Shame, sir.
I SAID SHAME!
By Michael Silly Savage
November 11, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this
That Pelosi wench makes my skin crawl. Ralph is too pretty, in my book though.
I like the rugged masculine types - let’s face it - Republican men, with the exception of Lynn Cheney, are bottoms.
By Political Deckhead
November 11, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this
There’s bumper-sticker think in Georgia. There’s herd mentality on our highways. We drive in packs. We approach the rear of other cars as if we’re horny gnus looking to assert our hard-won alpha male priveleges in siring inbred-hybrids.
In 1896, there were 2 cars in the state of Indiana, and they collided. (true) (I think they were ‘73 Plymouth Belvedeers)
Traffic control experts say that if we would spread out, and only do the posted limit, then traffic jams would be very rare. But it’s our tendency to race each other to red lights and other stopped traffic that kills the flow. It takes much longer to stop and go than it does to just go slow.
Drive 316 to Athens, where there are traffic lights on a 65mph highway and plenty of cross traffic access. If you pace yourself, you hardly have to stop at any of the red lights, and are well prepared for the random incursion by daredevil cross traffic.
People are idiots. Lets face it, we are idiots. All of us. Every single one. idiots. We know it. We are convinced. Our persuasion is reinforced every single time we drive: people are idiots.
40K idiots are killed each year on the highway.
By time for the truth
November 11, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
@ who really cares about leftist wankers like you??
funny how you leftist tosspots dishonestly ignore the moronic “group think” by blacks in Georgia - usually robotic 90% support of demoNcrats - after explicitly being told who to vote for by ignorant racist racebaiting black bigots like the moron Lewis, the life long bigot Young and the vile FWANKlin.
By time for the truth
November 11, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this
DAMN … I wish it was Feb 28th 2007 already - then we’d be rid of rednekkks NAMBLA forever - assuming it aint lying like a Klinton!!
huge smirk
By Political Deckhead
November 11, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this
Lame Duck Prez George, (“Attack Iraq”), will soon be impeached with Cheney. President Pelosi will refuse to pardon them and Willie Horton will be back in the sexual predator news.
By Joel
November 11, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this
The Soviet Union and the 3rd Reich ended just as abruptly as the Neo-Right’s majority.
Faith in America is now global. Hitler Youth Clubs are reporting mass defecations to YMCAs all over the country. (not to mention der verld).
People are showering again. And they’re reading more: “lather, rinse, repeat”…. we had almost forgotten.
We’re concentrating on older goals, like who can hock a lugie the farthest from a moving vehicle. The old record is 750 feet. (shame about the derailed train, but what a lugie!)
Oh, I can go on and on. Things are positive. People are happy. Cats are enjoining owners from spading. It’s Miller time all over the globe!!!!
By Mallory
November 11, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
J.Wooten, The voters have spoken and we’re now poised to jump off the cliff once again into the murky pit of liberal ideas. Old, outdated, and non-productive liberalism. There’s nothing progressive about it, but it’s an easy sell to those who have not a clue.
To the clueless voters, left & right.
Democrats Reveal Their True Intentions: Tax Hikes; Top Advisor to Democrats Recommends Raising Taxes, Says ATR
Why would anybody believe someone who ran a failed campaign for John Kerry?
Rubin Urges Democrats to Raise Taxes to Reverse Budget Deficit
Then there’s that master of liberal monotone Schumer.
China Sanctions Shouldn’t Be on Democrat Agenda
Get ready to jump America. The terrorists have won and they’re celebrating right along side the Democrats.
We suffered a loss of resolve and the potential loss of our economy. That’s exactly what they were hoping for.
I agree with you Wooten. Rumsfeld was a new age thinker when it came to our military and the way they operate. More troops may have made the difference but then we were trying to avoid the impression of occupation.
With Arab leaders predicting the outcome of a withdrawal and warning against it, I’m hoping that one out of three will hold, but the other two could have a grave impact on the one.
But then the bigger picture is always something the Democrats miss. If it’s good for today, that’s sufficient.
By Curious Observer
November 11, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this
Forget impeaching GW or Cheney. They are largely irrelevant. Oh, GW will wield his veto pen to avoid allowing the government to negotiate Medicare drug prices with his campaign-funding buddies of the pharmaceutical industry. After all, why alienate the drug companies when you can just screw the American taxpayers? And he’ll continue to send the names of fascist judges for nominations to the higher courts, for James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, and the other theocrats must be mollified.
The new Democratic Congress ought to be wary of launching endless investigations and otherwise giving the appearance of being just like their Republican confreres. The voters sent a message on Tuesday. They want a Congress that takes action on important issues and earns its pay, not one that works a three-day week, issues talking points, and then goes home to raise campaign funds.
An effort to impeach the President and/or the VP would be the most stupid thing the new Congress could do. Leave GW and Cheney alone to ferment in the cesspool of their incompetence. The small bit of satisfaction derived from a desire for revenge is hardly worth the sacrifice of turning Congress back to the control of the Republicans in 2008. If the Democrats cannot demonstrate a greater sense of resolve and purpose than the Republicans they replaced, they will not be in power long.
By Markus
November 11, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
Well I see the usual suspect libofreaks aren’t far from the gutter leaf debris this morning. Oh well, here’s my Veteran’s Day tribute:
My fellow Americans, what we witnessed last Tuesday was a change in American politics. It wasn’t a change as sweeping as Gingrich’s 1994 Conservative Republican Revolution (not the least of which because Bush has acted like a liberal democRAT and sucking up to the POSs), but it was a change nonetheless.
I would like to call your attention to who we have in control of the House and (narrowly) the Senate right now:
These are the people who hate traditional America.
These are the people who are ashamed of America.
These are the people who are ashamed that America is strong in the world’s eye, both economically and militarily.
These are the people who don’t believe in a strong military and believe that the UN should be the ultimate authority to world issues, from nuclear prohibition to feeding starving children in Africa.
These are the people, or at the very least, the people who support these people, spat upon our soldiers as they returned from Vietnam and called them baby killers, murderers, and rapists (as John effin’ Kerry said 35 years ago and as Dick “Turban” Durbin said 2 years ago about our Iraqi soldiers).
These are the people who hate the military industrial complex and want to see it dismantled.
These are the people who want to cancel technological evolutionary advances such as the F-22 Raptor program and don’t think we need such advances for future insurance and commitment to national security.
These are the people who don’t think we need to have a strong military, yet b!tch when we don’t give our troops enough when the other side is in power.
These are the predecessors of the people who damn near cost us WWII early on with a lethargic and complacent attitude that the world’s conflicts would never make it to our shores and we shouldn’t be so “scared” of Hitler and Hirohito.
These are the people who sat on their @sses worried about more critical things like the TVA and giving Robert KKK Byrd in WV a job digging ditches in the mid-late 1930s instead of teaching BillyBob a skill to update things like a military aircraft inventory that was still largely comprised of biplanes with fabric wings (that Rosie The Riverter ultimately had to do because the men were all off fighting the war[s] we weren’t going to have).
These are the people, and their followers, who didn’t give a damn about military service in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and especially the 1990s when one of their draft-dodgers went up against a WWII Navy pilot hero for president.
So ladies and gentlemen who care about America’s future and security, honored red-blooded Veterans who aren’t ashamed of America’s might and potential to project power anywhere, anytime, I’d like to close with one final thought on who we have in (narrow) power in Congress starting next January:
Ultimately, these are the people who our enemies, the islamofascist terrorist pigs from hell, are 100% supporting to be in charge of America’s future. Look no further than these bastards’ reaction to Tuesday’s results.
By Markus
November 11, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this
The RAT pack has admirers!
“On the audio tape made available on militant Web sites, the al-Qaida in Iraq leader also welcomed the Republican electoral defeat that led to the departure of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. He added that the group’s fighters would not rest until they had blown up the White House.”
That will be easy as hell to do if the Party Of The Pusseez gets it in 2008 or 2012.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/10/D8LAC4OG1.html
By Noel
November 11, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this
There is one small caviar: Diebold may have swung the election the other way on purpose. Why? It’s possible that they want to blame the democrats for what they know is about to happen: another terrorist attack that will make 911 seem like a 411 call made from inside a 7-11.
This would prove that Iraq was a diversion from our war on terror. Why didn’t we secure the victory in Afghanistan? If the answer is because that’s impossible given the geo-political situation on the Border with Pakistan, then there is no hope, Al Queda will live forever.
The report out of Britain that there are 6 serious terror-plots coming to fruition is alarming. Al Queda is directing the terrorists from Pakistan’s border region, where apparently no army can go, given the topography.
This brings up W’s failure to nab OBL when we had the chance. Who failed us? Oh yeah! Rummy dragged his feet after the CIA’s initial foray into Afghanistan (2002) had an unsuspecting Osama and his army located. Rummy wanted to be boss. W chose the CIA to run things, and Rummy wouldn’t co-operate by sending any troops to attack Osama until W relented ten weeks later. All that time was lost by a traitor: Rummy.
True. Facts. It happened. Rummy is a traitor. Traitors are defined by their actions, not their spin. Rummy failed to defend this country over a spoiled brat mentality that he wouldn’t obey orders from the commander in chief (in time of war: treason) until he got 2B the boss.
This is all documented fact. Oh, we’re going to get the gang of four: W/cheney/rove/rummy.
The gang of four are like fraternity bullies whose prank went awry and someone got killed. Now they’re all, “Huh? We didnt’ do nuthin”.
Oh, we’re going to get the gang of four.
By Chazman
November 11, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this
I would like to call your attention to who we have in control of the House and (narrowly) the Senate right now:
These are the people who hate traditional America.
These are the people who are ashamed of America.
WWWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
DEMOCRATS WON LAST WEEK BUT THEY HATE AMERICA.
WWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
DEMOCRATS WON CONTROL OF THE SENATE, BUT ONLY “NARROWLY”.
WWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
DEMOCRATS ARE ASHAMED OF AMERICA.
WWAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
THE DEMOCRATS LOVE THE TERRORISTS
WWWWAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
BOO HOO
By getalife
November 11, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this
It was the American people who won in this election.
Not libs, leftist, blah, blah, blah.
There were Republicans, Independents and Dems all voting to get our country back.
On this Veterens Day, we have troops dying in Iraq for no good reason. The reason spewed by w has changed many times.
This is an outrage and there must be accountabilty for this disaster.
People like macaca are not American. They are cowards, pure and simple.
The question is why are we still in Iraq?
By Mallory
November 11, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this
In honor of Veterans Day, let’s take a listen to a two-sided coin when flipped:
A military determined in victory!
A military determined in defeat!
Heads or tails. Who wins?
By Markus
November 11, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
“Diebold may have swung the election the other way on purpose. Why? It’s possible that they want to blame the democrats for what they know is about to happen: another terrorist attack that will make 911 seem like a 411 call made from inside a 7-11.”
Hey Noelnut-
Do you mind if I print out your post and frame it? You just won the Tinfoil Asshat Of The Year Award!
Only a real JACKASS is already making excuses for it’s party future failures. LMAO!!!
By getalife
November 11, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this
Is US Winning War? Chairman Of Joint Chiefs Of Staff: “You Have To Define ‘Winning’”
Pathetic leadership.
By Markus
November 11, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this
gitmolife-
You are to the “real American” what cancer is to a healthy cell.
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this
Dorkus, you’re very passionate, but you do not persuade. Now America has been very patient with your kind. You need to rethink yourself, your enuresis, and your polling style.
New National Anthem effective immediately:
Victory…Victory. We fought the fight with all our might! Victory… Victory. And now the Left has trounced the Right! Victory… Victory. The Right is wrong they have small dongs! Victory…Victory. Lady Liberty is just too strong! Victory…Victory.
VICTORY!!!!!!
By PK Winsome
November 11, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this
PK Winsome’s Pancake House, PK Winsome’s Protien Shake, PK Winsome’s Costume House
By Markus
November 11, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Curious Observer-
“The small bit of satisfaction derived from a desire for revenge is hardly worth the sacrifice of turning Congress back to the control of the Republicans in 2008. If the Democrats cannot demonstrate a greater sense of resolve and purpose than the Republicans they replaced, they will not be in power long.”
Oh it’s going to happen. The RAT pack led by Pelosiwitch can’t stand by and let this not happen. Years of threats is going to come through.
And yes, I’d be worried if I were a limpwristed leftist. All those Reagan and Gingrich Conservatives are still around. They just chose to sit this election out due to disgust of their so-called Republican leaders. And just think, after all that, the Demoncats barely squeaked out a victory… with the usual fraud notwithstanding of course.
By Alfred the Nerd
November 11, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
E=mc2
By Markus
November 11, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
Was it something I said Spazman?
GOOD, you beady-eyed used car dealing liberal shiester from hell. All you tinfoil hat demoncats look the same to me… like used car salesmen in cheap suits.
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
The US is winning the war to create a new Shia Superstate whose constitution has the phrase, “destroy Israel” repeated 500 times.
By ghvcgdrthg
November 11, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this
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By Markus
November 11, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
Dorkus-
You so impressed my with your “duh” posts mocking me the other day. I mean, where do you liberals get your intellect, wit, and knowledge, the government?
By Macaca
November 11, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
Macaca is next to Yipipi, fool
By Cut And Run
November 11, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
Al Qaeda seems awful happy too, don’t they?
A new recording Friday attributed to the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq mocked President Bush as a coward whose conduct of the war was rejected at the polls, challenging him to keep U.S. troops in the country to face more bloodshed.
A victory for the libs is a victory for Al Qaeda, let’s celebrate!
By Chazman
November 11, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this
Here we have Whining Markus on Veterans Day spewing how Democrats hate America. My father spent a year sitting in a POW camp in Germany eating cabbage soup on his way to 80 pounds. I would love, really love, to see you tell him to his face on this Veterans Day that his party hates America. Even though he is 82 now, he would bith slap you across the room and make you like it.
You want proof of just how big a whiner Markus is:
And just think, after all that, the Demoncats barely squeaked out a victory… with the usual fraud notwithstanding of course.
Barely squeaked out? Fraud?
BWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
WWWAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH They cheated! They committed Fraud!
WWAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH They just barely squeaked out a victory! (whimper, whimper)
WWAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH Liberals have beady eyes.
What a sore loser.
Have a good Veterens Day, Markus. I’m on my way out the door to honor ALL Veterens, regardless of party affiliation.
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this
If a tree falls in the woods and there’s nobody around to hear it, does it make a sound? NO!
Every single photon we observe from the universe must pass through our corneas and eventually spark across our neuro gaps. Our awareness is the state of that bio-plasma, which opens up a spectrum of possible perceptions. Every observation is an experiment with our eyes and brains being the apparatus. What we think we are seeing is probably not there. We are here, but only in consciousness. Everything else is an illusion.
Conclusion: If the universe really did exist, it would explode keeling everyone.
By Markus
November 11, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
Spazman, like it’s usual ilk, can’t seem to comprehend the FACT that it’s ilk is against America winning the war on islamoterrorism.
Spazman, like it’s usual ilk, thinks that saying the cut-n-runners are just that, CUT AND RUNNERS, it’s an attack on it’s family of military service.
Spazman, my grandfather slaughtered Storm Troopers, but I never mention that here when all you asshats on the left talk about demoncat military service like John “scratch-n-sniff purple heart” effin’ Kerry.
Spazman, when are you tinfoil asshats on the left going to realize that an attack on YOUR PRINCIPLES is NOT an attack on any military service? Grow up, RAT.
By bob
November 11, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
Markus is a boob
By Markus
November 11, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
And now a word from the admirers of America’s Demoncat Party:
thankyouAmericans!
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this
The Right has become completely unhinged by the American People’s mandate to congress.
It gives liberals no joy to see the Neo-Newts succumb to the rabid fruition of neuropathological decay.
There’s nothing left of them. Hell, they aint even there.
And I think it’s a damn shame.
BTW: how funny is it to see Newt find a flotsam after he jumped ship? He’s firing away at his own ghost. You cant write weasel-speak like that. It has to happen. I’m going to miss Newt when he finally goes too far and the right stuffs him in a museum.
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this
Duh.
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this
Duh, I think the two party system is better than the one party system cause it’s twice as good, duh!
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this
Duh, I think the Right is right, and the Left is le…uh, the left is….er…like..uh….liars and stuff, duhhhh….
By Concerned Blogger
November 11, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this
Jim: You asked this Political Foreskin person/ Dorkus person to try and constructively participate on this blog, instead of spamming it with nonsense only it can understand, unfortunately that tact has failed.
Boot that scumbag.
Thank you for your time.
By neoconned
November 11, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
Al Qaeda internet audio clip boasts of 12,000 terror ‘troops’
I believe this is completely true.
I believe this because some crazy in Iraq said it, and it was posted on the Internet, and the Internet never lies.
If this crazy said he had planted nukes in every US city, and it was on the Internet, I would believe it because it’s on the Internet so it must be true.
And finally… I believe it because Markus and Cut and Run say it’s true and just like the Internet, they never lie.
I also believe that George Bush is a visionary, Dick Cheney is altruistic, Don Rumsfeld’s concern for the troops was genuine and Santa lives at the North Pole.
I’m what passes for intellectual among my wingnut peers. Who’da thunk it?
By Markus
November 11, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this
Hey blindconned-
“I would believe it because it’s on the Internet so it must be true.”
You say that, and I’ll bet you believed Dan Rather’s lying eyes on a forged document, fake video of airliners flying into the WTC and Pentagon, fake video of Armstrong standing on the moon, and fake video of the earth as being round.
But I’ll bet you believe that false prophet mohammed is circling the earth in a “muthaship” waiting to pick you up with Louis “The Lip” Fairykhan.
Idiot.
By Mallory
November 11, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this
J.Wooten, I agree with Concerned Blogger. This Political Foreskin, blogger of multiple IDs is either aspiring or a*-parading.
He’s a failure at the first and a success at the second.
Reading his repetitious, ridiculous, and incoherent comments requires an aspirin.
His obsession with sex makes you wonder if he’s a reject from some deviant porn site.
Give him his lotion already, and give me a noseclip.
By getalife
November 11, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this
Get over it macaca.
You lost.
Be the silent minority.
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this
The right is dead. There’s not even one person left in the entire country who thinks we should be in Iraq. The entire Joint Chiefs of Staff are barely able to contain their contempt for Bush. The democratically elected Shia Majority in Iraq want us to leave so they can finish the civil war once and for all.
Bush did this. He and he alone is responsible. Nobody else wanted Iraq. Cheney wanted Iraq. BP Oil wanted Iraq.
The Joint Chiefs of Staff are very unhappy. Very unhappy.
Isn’t this how military coups happen?
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this
Neo-newts think they can spin their way back into the mainstream, but that aint happenin’ baby.
I crossed a Neo-gnu with a Neo-gnat and got a Neo-gnut.
I need to swat me a few Neo-gnats.
SWAT!!!!!!
By time for the truth
November 11, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this
unhinged foreskin is as funny as a cup of cold sick/vomit - it is utterly devoid of humour and as for any notion of irony …
its compulsive unremitting self aborbed witless smut infested narcissistic drivel has all the comedic allure of a dyslexic camel plagued with chronic supercilious Chevy Chase like verbal diarrhea.
By getalife
November 11, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this
“1) Republican trolls who wrap up their anonymous and incomprehensible criticisms of progressives with the phrase, “and that’s why your party never wins,” need to shut the f* up.
2) The cowards who so easily disregard our liberties by shrugging off the president’s illegal wiretapping; the cowards who shrug off the Military Commissions Act and the death of habeas corpus; and the cowards who shrug off torture with the phrases, “I’m not doing anything wrong, so I have nothing to worry about,” or, “You can’t [blank] if you’re dead,” ought to shut the f* up.
3) Anyone who still believes that global warming is a myth? Shut the f* up.
4) Rush Limbaugh must shut the f* up. On second thought, strike that. The more we see Violet Beauregard flapping his arms and mocking Parkinson’s patients, the better off the rest of the nation will be.
5) In Ann Coulter’s latest column, he wondered when the Democrats would be fitting Senator-Elect Jon Tester with a “leotard.” Speaking of tards, Mr. Coulter needs to shut the f* up. And this order stands for anyone who claims Senator-Elect Tester is a “conservative Democrat.” He could very well be the face of the New Progressive Democrat and one of the most genuine lawmakers elected Tuesday. Prediction: if he isn’t already, Tester will quickly become a rock star in this party.
6) I think it was Bill Maher who mentioned this but it stands repeating here: neocons who have made multiple rosy predictions about Iraq need to shut the f* up and are forthwith banned from making any more predictions.
7) Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and other homophobes who use the “San Francisco Liberal” label for Speaker-Elect Pelosi must… you know. We all understand that it’s right-wing code language meaning “homo-values.” If that’s what you mean, just say it. That is, unless you’re not man enough.
8) If you still believe that Karl Rove is a genius, wizard, architect or anything short of overrated, you must shut the f* up. One popular vote loss, one win, one near loss to a disorganized opponent and one outright loss means one thing and one thing only: mediocrity. Racking up this kind of record by means of dirty tricks, race-baiting and questioning the patriotism of decorated war veterans makes Rove a mediocre hack at best.
9) Ed Gillespie, the man who’s just a neck with a mouth, is officially ordered for the last time to shut the f* up.
10) The devilish wordsmiths who think it’s strategic and clever to refer to the Democratic Party as the “Democrat Party” need to stop it. Shut the f* up. The official name of the party is the Democratic Party, with the “ic” at the end. Yeah, I know. Newt Gingrich and Frank Luntz invented the idea of saying “Democrat Party” or “the Democrat leadership” or “the Democrat voters” in order to emphasize the “rat” syllable, leaving a rat-like subliminal hint in the minds of listeners. President Bush, in his so-called “conciliatory” press conference Wednesday, used this incorrect pronunciation several times.
“And while the ballots are still being counted in the Senate, it is clear the Democrat Party had a good night last night, and I congratulate them on their victories.” “This morning I spoke with Republican and Democrat leadership in the House and Senate.”
“…we’ll begin consultations with the Democrat leadership starting Thursday and Friday.”
“…and now work with Democrat leaders in the Congress because they control the committees and they control the flow of bills.”
“We got some tax cuts passed with Democrat votes.”
11) And finally… Mr. President. Saying that you’re going to work with Congress and compromise for the sake of the nation doesn’t mean shoving your unconstitutional Terrorist Surveillance Act and your bellicose anti-U.N. U.N. ambassador through a lame duck session. So if you don’t really intend to be bipartisan, then shut the f* up. You pride yourself on letting people know exactly where you stand and, despite the fact that you routinely stand on dangerous principles, there’s at least some cold comfort in knowing what you’re up to. But it’s clear that that President Bush is long gone — replaced by a man who can’t even be honest with his own base about things like the Iraq War, subsequently leaving his allies alone, confused and scrambling to assuage the anger of an increasingly hostile constituency.”
By time for the truth
November 11, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this
send maggot brain to Gitmo for life
STFU you treasonous illegal immigrant neo-com wanking arsewipe!!
just politely mirroring back the substantive element of your latest retarded paranoid leftist lies.
TELL US MAGGOT BRAIN … how freaking hilarious is it that the leftist congressional vermin BEFORE the election told the Iraqis that there would be NO immediate or swift withrrawal …
you pinko scum were suckered yet again by power hungry pathological leftists posing as cut and run liars!! still LMFAO
By getalife
November 11, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
lies,
Nothing will change until the investigations start in January.
Until then, more will die for nothing thanks to w.
STFU bloody wanker.
By Redneck American
November 11, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this
I’m personally happy that the left won the election and is going to cut America’s balls off. There are several reasons why:
1) Most left wingers live all bunched up in the big cities. Al Qaeda will kill alot of them and not be able to get as many of us when they turn their attention from Iraq to the United States homeland.
This will give the red staters more breathing room.
2) Should we get invaded, the enemy always goes after the “intellects” first and these loud mouthed pinkos have all but crowned themselves the smartest sons a b*** in the world. I won’t argue with Al Qaeda when the time comes.
I’ll just pay the dhimmi tax and go on my way.
3) Most Americans aren’t insane, being world wide panty waists, b*** of the European Union, will not sit well with their civic pride.
Losing a war to a bunch of American media driven cutthroat savage religious fanatics will not go over good either.
This all adds up to a bunch of p** off hill billy’s killing every enemy of America they can find, foreign and domestic.
There’s nothing wrong with that.
You can only push us so far.
So buck up, red staters, things will get better.
By RW-(the original)
November 11, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this
getalife,
In 2004 John Kerry said he had a plan that would keep any more American soldiers from being killed but he wouldn’t tell us what it was unless we elected him President. Why don’t you investigate that?
Veterans: Enjoy this special day and thank you!
By neoconned
November 11, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this
time for the truth, I believe everything you say too.
I believe that the Democrats in Congress have agreed on an immediate or swift Iraq pullout, and they have the awesome power to do just that, no matter what our President and Pentagon say.
Will it happen before Thanksgiving or before Christmas? Just asking.
Oh well. If you say it, it must be true. I read it right here.
But I’m confused. If they’re posing as cut and run liars, does that mean they really oppose cut and run? Does that mean they really favor “stay the course”? And if so, is this promise just because our President says he’s never said stay the course, even though he has? And if they’re posing as liars, does that mean they’re telling the truth? I mean, except about the lying part?
Politics is so confusing. I’m sure glad there are genuises like tftt and Markus to help me figure things out!
By Redneck American
November 11, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this
Censored!!
I’m personally happy that the left won the election and is going to cut America’s balls off. There are several reasons why:
1) Most left wingers live all bunched up in the big cities. Al Qaeda will kill alot of them and not be able to get as many of us when they turn their attention from Iraq to the United States homeland.
This will give the red staters more breathing room.
2) Should we get invaded, the enemy always goes after the “intellects” first and these loud mouthed pinkos have all but crowned themselves the smartest sons a bit-ches in the world. I won’t argue with Al Qaeda when the time comes.
I’ll just pay the dhimmi tax and go on my way.
3) Most Americans aren’t insane, being world wide panty waists, bit-ches of the European Union, will not sit well with their civic pride.
Losing a war to a bunch of American media driven cutthroat savage religious fanatics will not go over good either.
This all adds up to a bunch of pis-sed off hill billy’s killing every enemy of America they can find, foreign and domestic.
There’s nothing wrong with that.
You can only push us so far.
So buck up, red staters, things will get better.
By Midtown Mikey
November 11, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
Sorry about that housing market collapse and your adjustable rate mortgages going through the roof, maybe it will get better when we get through this nasty little recession.
Good news is, France likes us again!
Yay!
By @@
November 11, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
Oh maannnnnn!
Jim: I was just wondering! What would you do with this unfortunate circumstance?
Rare, valuable stamp may be sealed among absentee ballots
You can answer too getalife. $200,000!!! What if it was your mistake? Yikes!!!!!!!
Political Deckhead:
I’ll try to find time to respond to your 9:10 post. It’s very interesting, just not in the way you may think.
I’m a little busy today, and obviously you aren’t. If I do find time, I hope that you “enjoy”.
By American Redneck
November 11, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this
By neoconned November 11, 2006 01:26 PM I believe that the Democrats in Congress have agreed on an immediate or swift Iraq pullout, and they have the awesome power to do just that, no matter what our President and Pentagon say.
The only power the democrats have right now is to hysterically tell every one to STFU, enjoy it while you can.
They take over congress January 20th, you will be able to tell we’re getting close when the stock market tanks and gas prices go through the roof.
By Oil Exec
November 11, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this
You thought prices went up this summer, wait until Pelosi has the gavel, hehehe.
You have to be a blooming idiot to believe that I’m getting the windfall tax payment out of my bank account.
Puhleeeze.
I’m going to jack prices up like you’ve never seen to get you to pay for this idiocy.
Enjoy!
Maybe the Canadians will have cheaper gas like they do drugs, huh?
By Mallory
November 11, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
There ARE dissidents in Iran. I’m wishing them well.
Percussion bomb explodes in Iran
Leftist dissidents in America have shamelessly voted for Ahmadinejad’s success. I’ll take Iran’s dissidents fighting for freedom from the little prick.
By neoconned
November 11, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this
They take over congress January 20th, you will be able to tell we’re getting close when the stock market tanks and gas prices go through the roof.
I knew it. I just knew it. In a stunning act of vengeance, wealthy Republicans are going to trash the economy and blame the Dimmycrats.
They’ve been boosting stocks and slashing fuel prices just to make the collapse all the more painful. The huge monetary losses they’ll endure will pale in comparison to their emotional satisfaction.
We’re doomed. Doomed as doomed can be.
By Mallory
November 11, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this
I hope everyone here noticed who the Iranians blamed in my 2:32 link. It was Britain, part of the coalition in Iraq.
That’s how the game is played by the enemy. Keep your nose clean. Blame it on the west. Blame it on America. Keep the stupid stupid.
I think the stupid liberals in America are Iran’s MVPs.
Will you dunderbrain liberals ever get a clue?
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this
A clue? Mallory…. so you’re saying it was the liberal with the free government cheese, in the rent subsidized bedroom?
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this
I know where Oil Exec can put his petroleum jelly…..
Bush and Cheney belong behind bars, where they’ll need the petroleum jelly that Oil Exec is hoarding.
Be kind to your cellmated friends.
By Dorkus
November 11, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
Bush is changing his mind about Iraq and his new ideas sound like Michael Moore at the 2003 academy awards.
I love it. So where’s Rush Wimpbowel calling Bush a traitor now? Why not, Rush Limpblow? Bush is talkin’ bout same stuff Michael Moore pointed out.
Dopes are as Dopes be. (Forrest Gump)
By Dusty
November 11, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this
Weeelllll…Not much going on here today.
Just the usual palaver with the ups and downs, the funny men, the “intellectuals”, the long and boring, and the unhinged.
I did learn that “group think” is the latest term to show that the poster is “with it”. I might add that @@ is always pleasant and the real rose in a thorny garden.
Oh well, I would like to correct “Scared—no id” at 9 am who probably never puts a foot in a church but knows all about it.
The pastor at our church never mentions politics or the Iraq war. He certainly has good reason to do that but he doesn’t. He has two sons in the military, one in Iraq.
Our pastor values the members too much to try and run their lives for them. He’s there if you want to call him.
Find a church and try it before you start criticizing. And if that one doesn’t suit you, try another. Otherwise you might be doing some fallacious “group thinking”!! Can’t have that!!
By RW-(the original)
November 11, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this
Did you know that France once surrendered to Aunt Jemima?
By Mallory
November 11, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this
Dorkus, I’m talking about liberals like John Kerry. The liberals who will reject the possibility of victory and would rather surrender defeat in the face of the enemy.
WTF are you talking about? It looks like you just slighted anybody on welfare. Would you like to be more specific or stupid?
By commieknockers are coming
November 11, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this
—
[In a stunning act of vengeance, wealthy Republicans are going to trash the economy and blame the Dimmycrats]
No, we’re just going to show you pinko commies on the left who is in control of the money in this nation, and it isn’t the government nor is it pelosi and her stooges licking her nasty feet. Just wait and watch. A dem fool and someone else’s money is soon parted. {smile}
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 11, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
Markanus, the chickenhawk, waxing poetic about veterans on Veterans’ Day.
Coward, pure and simple.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 11, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
I bet Mr. Wooten liked the Lester Maddox days - Lester being a bible thumpin’ simple-minded bigot and all.
Sort of the essence of “thinking right” in the bizzaro world of the Woo-ten Klan.
By RW-(the original)
November 11, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this
Yep, Lester Maddox, A proud Democrat until the day he died.
By Dusty
November 11, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
RW-(the orignal),
That’s a great story. I can picture the French admiral raising the white flag while the Welsh women run’em off (and probably laughed). You just can’t keep a good woman down. Not one like that Welsh Aunt Jemima, as she was called.
Could I ask you something on the wrong blog? I just looked at Luckovich’s cartoon and I don’t understand the point. Oh, I know it is derogatory as far as Bush is concerned (as always) but what??what?? Obviously I am missing something. Not anything important but something…
By American Redneck
November 11, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this
By neoconned November 11, 2006 02:48 PM I knew it. I just knew it. In a stunning act of vengeance, wealthy Republicans are going to trash the economy and blame the Dimmycrats.
Actually, it’s because of the impending tax hikes, you rump ranger.
By @@
November 11, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
Alright Political Deckhead/Foreskin/The Way, etc. etc. etc.:
About your 9:10 post…Something in your post stuck out at me. As much as you’d like to dream, it wasn’t your Dick. Let’s take a look at it shall we?
By Political Deckhead November 11, 2006 09:10 AM
I guess @@ got lucky the other day with her amazing account of her newpaper route. (A+). Oh well, it was nice having a colleague while it lasted. Stick to cruel bashing, and felonious threats to the American People you disagree with, @@, and maybe someone will drop a dime on you in this time of war where all cyber-threats distract the CIA from their serious hunt for Red Osama.
This ^^^ post, I guess, was a follow up to a previous post you made under another name. I offer up for exhibit:
By The Way November 7, 2006 10:09 AM
Now, @@, THAT was well written! Bravo! See? If you write about what you know and are true to your own heart, then you shine.
I know of two, possibly three people who would reference a cyber-threat made. The person who made it to me and others at an undisclosed blogsite. A casual observer at that same site. Getalife, who holds a special place in my heart and a wonderful sense of humor.
I’m ruling out Getalife, so you’ve got to be one of two others. The one who made the threat or finch. finch is obsessed with Osama.
I’m sure glad there’s no word limit placed on Wooten’s site, because I’ve got more to say.
At what time have I ever been cruel or issued a felonious threat? If I offended your tender sensibilities in some way, I suggest you suck it up and get over it. Act like a man, in other words.
Why do you post under so many different names? If nobody responds to your posts under one name, are you so desperate for attention that you post under another? And if another doesn’t work…another? What exactly are you looking for? Affirmation of some kind? It’s a sign of weakness you know.
Your critique of my writing? I didn’t ask for it nor do I need it. I give myself the confidence I require. I don’t find it necessary from anyone else.
Now my above ^^^ post can be deemed out of character for me. You asked for it, and you got it.
Dusty:
Sorry, the bloom is off my rose. :-)
By RW-(the original)
November 11, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
I’m sure luckovich is trying to say that the elections make President Bush a bigger loser than K-Fed who got dumped by Britney via text message. As always the scribbler is wrong, the President is still the head of the Executive Branch and controls foreign policy and now has a better chance of passing his immigration plan, even though I think President Bush is off the mark on that one.
I just posted the cartoon he put up on Veterans Day last year at “after dark.” You can sure tell mike luckovich “supports” the troops can’t you?
By Mallory
November 11, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
I’m waiting Dufus Dorkus. I’m waiting for you to be more specific moron. Who did you insult with your 3:10? It sure as hell wasn’t me.
Are you into self mutilation or something?
By Mallory
November 11, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
No answer from Dufus Dorkus.
Chicken$hit!
By Dusty
November 11, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this
RW,
Thanks for the explanation of ml’s cartoon. I don’t read the fine print on celebrities, just the head lines. I don’t see any comparison there with the president.
Luckovich likes to visit Military Hospitals and talk about it with synmpathy. Then he draws our troops as torturers more than once. (Pot’n’kettle and last year’s Vet cartoon). That does not “compute” for me. A strange way to support the troops. (And NO, I do not think it is funny.)
By getalife
November 11, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this
Here is one on the troops
By RW-(the original)
November 11, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this
Nice trashing the troops on Veterans Day getalife. Somehow I thought you were above that.
By Et tu, Afghanistan?
November 12, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this
Peggy Noonan has a lot of faith in the democrats:
This is the age we live in: One day in the future either New York or Washington or both will be hit again, hard. It will be more deadly than 9/11. And on that day, those who experience it, who see the flash or hear the alarms, will try to help each other. They’ll be good to each other. An elderly conservative congresswoman will be unable to make it down those big old Capitol steps, and a young liberal congressman will come by and pick her up in his arms and carry her. (I witnessed a moment somewhat like this during a Capitol alarm two years ago, when we were told to run for our lives.) I would say: Keep that picture in mind. Cut to the chase, be good to each other now.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 12, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this
The Fairy Band of Luckovich Losers comes over here on the weekends - isn’t there a public restroom somewhere y’all should be hanging out in?
Can’t you find a big bed that y’all can hide under, you bunch of filthy chickenhawk cowards?
By Et tu, Afghanistan?
November 12, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this
As it is, we’re in a very dark place right now. It has been a long time since America unambiguously won a war, and to choose to lose Iraq would be an act of such parochial self-indulgence that the American moment would not endure, and would not deserve to. Europe is becoming semi-Muslim, Third World basket-case states are going nuclear, and, for all that 40 percent of planetary military spending, America can’t muster the will to take on pipsqueak enemies. We think we can just call off the game early, and go back home and watch TV. It doesn’t work like that. Whatever it started out as, Iraq is a test of American seriousness. And, if the Great Satan can’t win in Vietnam or Iraq, where can it win? That’s how China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Venezuela and a whole lot of others look at it. “These Colors Don’t Run” is a fine T-shirt slogan, but in reality these colors have spent 40 years running from the jungles of Southeast Asia, the helicopters in the Persian desert, the streets of Mogadishu. … To add the sands of Mesopotamia to the list will be an act of weakness from which America will never recover.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 12, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this
RW, stumpbroke racist rednecks like you vote GOP, and you have since LBJ turned his back on you.
Those Frenchies - sure do like to cut and run.
I guess Rumsfeld is French.
What about cowards like your sisters Andi/e and Bi Danish - who can’t even muster up the courage to enlist?
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 12, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this
Andi/e doesn’t run - she just hides,
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 12, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this
The Luckovich Losers are slower, but angrier, on the weekends. They wake up with hangovers, very sore butts, and strange men and animals in their beds.
By Et tu, Afghanistan?
November 12, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this
By Al Qaeda’s Concubine November 12, 2006 08:38 AM Andi/e doesn’t run - she just hides,
I’m all up in your face and it shows from your little panty waist feminist hysterics^^, and the best you can do is say that I hide?
You pus-sy a-ss liberals are some weird little degenerates.
You sodomites won your beloved gay marriage, you got a denutted America eunuch, world pus-sy, and you can trash the economy with all of your junk science experiments.
So what are you raging over this morning, psycho??
You got PMS?
Of the mind?
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 12, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this
You’re never in anybody’s face, you cowardly poof clown.
Hint - you can see someone’s face without pulling down their zipper.
By Et tu, Afghanistan?
November 12, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
By Al Qaeda’s Concubine November 12, 2006 09:25 AM You’re never in anybody’s face, you cowardly poof clown. Hint - you can see someone’s face without pulling down their zipper.
PMS it is.
What’s up with all these gay sexual references from you panty waists?
Is that all you can think of, genius?
Does all this political talk^^ make you feel drowsy?
And angry?
Just because you’re too stupid to understand doesn’t mean you need to lash out at the rest of us.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 12, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
Since when do your moronic rantings and ravings qualify as “political talk”, sister?
Face facts - you’re an imbecilic uneducated whiny drunken moron.
You have nothing to say worth listening to, poof.
Off to work!
By Derek A. Peterson
November 12, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
History, and military historians, will be kind to Donald Rumsfeld. While Rumsfeld and his generals might, in retrospect, have made different decisions here and there, including Fallujah, his strategy was sound, his insistence that the United States not prepare to be an “occupation” army was wise, and his leadership was just what a nation at war needs
If we were not able to be an army of occupation, why did we invade another country? Sounds like Rumsfeld was arguing against invasion.
By getalife
November 12, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
“Daddy Bush will try to bail out his miserably failing son: Ask thy father, and he will show thee: advice that, at long last, George W. Bush seems to be taking.”
“Bush the most disastrous leader in US history: The Republican performance in this week’s midterm elections has led many commentators to describe Bush as the most disastrous leader in US history.”
A few headlines this morning.
Told ya.
By Political Foreskin
November 12, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
Shock and Awning!! It’s curtains for Bush. It’s curtains for the GOP.
Bush gave Pelosi a name: Scarlet O’hara. Scarlett’s first act as matriarch of Tara was to tear down drapery. Bush’s first bipartisan act was to demote Pelosi to Domestic Goddess.
It’s the draperies, stupid.
Bush managed to alienate every single woman on the planet with one sentence: “And in my first act of bipartisan outreach since the election, I shared with Pelosi the names of some interior decorators who can help her pick out the new drapes in her new office”.
Bush is no performing monkey simply mispronouncing words. On the page, his statement looked like nothing; the beginning simple, almost droll. Just the pulse of a botched joke, like a rusty stand up comic. Then Suddenly, high above it all, an elboe to his eye, as the import of his gaff reverberated with the clumsy limp of a true lame duck.
The Bush presidency is finished as no presidency was ever finished. Displace one word of his stupid remarks and there would be diminishment. Remove one phrase, and the whole structure would collapse.
I look at Bushspeak and I am staring through the cage of his meticulous syntactical strokes at a sheer loose cannon.
By time for the truth
November 12, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this
rednekkks NAMBLA is the dominant resident queer obsessed leftie on here - all it EVER does is post imbecilic bigoted hate filled abuse, invariably of a “you’re a queer”, “you’re a child molestor” or empty bitter envious insults based on “you’re a southerner”.
NAMBLA’s other constantly dishonest leftist sicko trick is to emptily and witlessly accuse those who post legitimate criticism of illegal immigrants and violent/corrupt/racist minorities of racism.
NAMBLA rarely if ever actually just posts about politics or makes political points - but it proudly unremittinglu pukes up its graphic homosexual themed vituperative abuse. It simply cannot/will not actually debate anyone on here with facts and none of its beloved homosexual abuse.
Like unhinged foreskin NAMBLA is utterly humourless and simply posts its vile plebian drivel purely for its own entertainment. NAMBLA and deranged foreskin show all the classic symptoms of paranoid narcissistic sociopaths.
NAMBLA is a filthy depraved northern WanKKKee abortion bucket escapee that needs to IMMEDIATELY slither back whence it came!!
huge I proudly despise leftists smirk
By bon scott
November 12, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this
Lock up your daughters and sons. Andy’s on the loose again. A bottle in one hand, a menacing vinyl accessory in the other. How he manages to type is beyond me.
By Et tu, America? - November 12, 2006 09:37 AM - PMS it is. What’s up with all these gay sexual references from you panty waists? Is that all you can think of, genius? Does all this political talk^^ make you feel drowsy? And angry?
This is too funny! A rambling rant from a perv who accuses others of sex and anger issues? I can’t stand it!
Yes I can!!
Just because you’re too stupid to understand doesn’t mean you need to lash out at the rest of us.
Oh the IRONY!!!
Meanwhile, back in the real world (as opposed to the one peopled by bitter, angry, petulant neocon losers) the rest of American applauds as the Bush GOP adjusts to it’s new, menial place in the grand order of things.
What a week this was! Here’s to the voters of both parties who drove a stake into the heart of our political darkness.
After years of trying to confuse and polarize, the Bush GOP learns that indeed, you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.
[It’s the kind of conservatism that remains silent when Rush Limbaugh does a mocking impersonation of Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s symptoms to score partisan points. It’s the kind of conservatism that talks of humane immigration reform but looks the other way when candidates demonize foreigners as predatory animals. It’s the kind of conservatism that pays lip service to “tolerance” but stalls for days before taking down a campaign ad caricaturing an African-American candidate as a sexual magnet for white women.](http://select.nytimes.com/2006/11/12/opinion/12rich.html?hp
Hats off to Virginia’s George Allen for helping to open our eyes:
The macaca incident had resonance beyond Virginia not just because it was a hit on YouTube. It came to stand for 2006 as a whole because it was synergistic with a national Republican campaign that made a fetish of warning that a Congress run by Democrats would have committee chairmen who are black (Charles Rangel) or gay (Barney Frank), and a middle-aged woman not in the Stepford mold of Laura Bush as speaker. In this context, Mr. Allen’s defeat was poetic justice: the perfect epitaph for an era in which Mr. Rove systematically exploited the narrowest prejudices of the Republican base, pitting Americans of differing identities in cockfights for power and profit, all in the name of “faith.”
BTW - Our resident drunk completely misrepresents Ms. Noonan’s fine commentary. She’s not angry or petulant. She’s not playing the “fear the Democrats” card. Far from it:
At the end of the day, or the end of this day, I look at the new Congress and wish them so well, such luck. Don’t you? I want to say: Go, Nancy Pelosi. Be the speaker of whom historians will write, in 2032, “This was her moment, here was the summit, here she found greatness.” Go, Democrats, be great and serious. Go, minority Republicans, refind yourselves. Go, conservatives.
The truth will set you free. The truth is something you never get from the drunk.
By getalife
November 12, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
Andy needs a big cup of this
By Chazman
November 12, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
time for the trash - your post regarding NAMBLA, ironicly, sounds alot like you. You say all he ever does is “post imbecilic bigoted hate filled abuse”, but look how you began your post.
rednekkks NAMBLA is the dominant resident queer obsessed leftie on here
Sounds bigoted and hate filled to me.
Then you state, NAMBLA rarely if ever actually just posts about politics or makes political points - but it proudly unremittinglu pukes up its graphic homosexual themed vituperative abuse.
Graphic? NAMBLA is a filthy depraved northern WanKKKee abortion bucket escapee that needs to IMMEDIATELY slither back whence it came!!
When you call someone an abortion bucket escapee when you don’t agree with them, that’s about as graphic as it gets.
If you look back at most of your posts, you also rarely post about politics or make political points. You mostly just do what you just complained about - insult, name-call and “posts its vile plebian drivel purely for its own entertainment.”
Yep, that’s you.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 12, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this
tftt/tommy, you silly old poof - if you ever had an original idea, I might respond to it. But, let’s be real here - your postings are tired, hackneyed, and always devoid of anything approaching reasoned discussion. Occasionally, a semi-original bit of sophomoric humor escapes your fingers, but that is it. I have young children in my family that are more thoughtful and have better senses of humor.
I don’t come here for reasoned political discussion - the Woo-ten Klan are just a bunch of poofy nutters, imbecilic cowards hiding behind keyboards.
I come here for the entertainment - Springer Show types like you pretending they are political sages -
HILARIOUS
By bon scott
November 12, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
This is food for thought and good for a laugh. After the Bush GOP’s humiliating defeat, 43 is reaching back to Dad for salvation.
Oh, the IRONY!!
Only the incompetence and discord of the past three years (since the US invaded Iraq) could cause reasonable people to welcome back with applause policymakers who failed to anticipate and then opposed the breakup of the Soviet Union; who were not realistic enough to see, much less prevent, the Balkans from plunging into flames; and who “coddled dictators from Beijing to Baghdad,” as the Democrats once accurately described the handiwork of Brent Scowcroft, Bob Gates and Jim Baker under Bush 41. - Jim Hoagland, Washington Post
Incompetence like this doesn’t happen by accident. You have to really work hard at it.
“Workin’ hard!”
By Phil Milazzo
November 12, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
Bicycles and feet are sometimes for “getting there,” faster than all those cars stopped on your faviorite street or highway. A shared road is an efficient road because more users can “get there” in it. Why is the city spending your tax money to make surface streets LESS useful??
By getalife
November 12, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this
W will learn how to cut and run from Daddy.
By Mallory
November 12, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this
First post of the day at 8:05 links to an opinion piece by Peggy Noonan. It’s a good read.
After that it’s downhill with personal attacks beginning with the liberal’s Al Qaeda KKKook.
Unfrucking believable.
You liberals need to look in the mirror or at least look up from the depths of the hole you inhabit. Compare posts by #’s you morons.
I come in here on weekends because it’s my only opportunity. Every 1st & 7th day of every frucking week I see nothing but personal attacks.
WTF is wrong with you people?
By time for the truth
November 12, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
rednekkks NAMBLA - as ever your pathetic pig ignorant response is typical of your cyber drivel. At least (very recently) you have been shamed into dropping the worst excesses of your child molestor themed posts. To simply vacuously assert that an opponent has “nothing to say” is cowardly and typical of the unthinking moronic regimented liberal lemmings that infest this blog.
A political blog simply reflects the stances and ideology of its contributors. It is utterly disingenuous to talk of “original ideas” on a political blog like this one. Certainly most if not all ideas on here are variations on themes established elsewhere by others. Most of the left and right posts on here reflect the ‘battle’ in D.C and in GA etc and the topics posted by Jim. I frequently comment on the blatant hypocrisy of the left, the racial/racist hypocrisy and bigotry of black liberals, the absurdity of the cut and run cowardly left etc. I don’t expect lefties to agree with me of course. But your constant child molesting filth and homosexual comments etc reflect a very sick depraved mind, not any attempt to debate or discuss.
YOU rarely if EVER actually post political commentary. Its invariably just vulgar/graphic/visceral abuse.
P!SS OFF and go and hide in your abortion bucket!! (that’s about the level of your trademark post).
By Et tu, Afghanistan?
November 12, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
Oh, isn’t that sweet? Some people’s lives are so pointless and meaningless that they have to lurk around political blogs waiting for me to post something so that they have a purpose for living through their dull, stupid, shallow existence.
Must suck to be them.
Not only that, they have to develop some fantasy role for me, making sh-it up about someone they don’t even know, to give them make believe demons to do battle with, probably while they’re dressed in some pointy little hat with their plastic sword, in case they should actually have to get a life, which they seem to be firmly against.
I wouldn’t want to leave the aforementioned loser with emptiness in it’s sullen, downtrodden, perverted being so think about this you little stalker:
Why are gas prices going through the roof?
Windfall profit tax?
Environmental regulation based on junk science and European fads?
By Skipper
November 12, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
TFTT sounds especially cranky today - rough week snookums?
Come here little buddy.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 12, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
tftt/tommy, you Brits have been trying to play the race card for millenia, so nothing you have to offer about racist/racial hypocrisy has any weight here.
Your rantings about leftist hypocrisy are tired and unoriginal - absolutely not one damn thing that hasn’t been heard at least a million times before on hate radio or Faux.
And your cut and run comments have no validity whatsoever unless you are posting from Afghanistan or Iraq, which you aren’t, you silly loudmouthed poofy pederast (you are a Brit, right?) coward.
By time for the truth
November 12, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this
crapman
my tone with NAMBLA simply (partially) reflects back the unremittingly abusive tone it takes with conservatives on here. NAMBLA is by far the most personally abusive poster on here. funny how you completely ignore that fact - but then the intellectual dishonesty of lefties is something we GOP types are well used to.
By bon scott
November 12, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Here’s something that’ll make you smile!
By Van
November 12, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this
Mallory,
Don’t worry, it is just the lefties first step to remake America like France.
That is all they know how to do, name calling and offering no solutions except “We hate America”
As an example, Google the search engine, does not honor the US in any way.
They mark special occasions including Halloween, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s birthday, the Persian New Year, the birthday of Percival Lowell, the Lunar New Year, the 250th birthday of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and Louis Braille’s birthday – all celebrated already this year with special graphics and colors. But they do not honor our military on Verterans Day or Memorial Day. They do honor Rememberance Day, the Canadian version of the U.S. Veterans Day.
But then again what do you expect, since Al Gore is a senior adviser to Google.
Just another “We Hate America” leftie.
Check it out here
I guess we are all in this slide to democrap heap together, hang on, only 2 more years to cringe.
By getalife
November 12, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this
bon,
He deserves a good thumpin.
I have been smiling since the American people fired the gop.
By time for the truth
November 12, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this
that’s fooking pathetically funny child molestor NAMBLA … we Brits dont play race cards, nor do we need to. But cheers for desperately scraping the bottom of your human pondscum barrel for some kind of flaccid barb to hurl at your transatlantic betters.
How ever as you well know from previous exchanges I am English. The Brit thing is just a sop to the bleating sheep shagging Welsh tw@ts and the porridge gobbling caber tossing JOCKstrap wankers up in Scotland we endure back home.
like I said pussfilled dickweed - there is very little on here that is original - and YOUR manic leftist Bush/conservative hate is less original than a bigoted anti-white/GOP outburst from a dim witted moron like say J Lewis, A Young or the utterly brain dead cretin J Conyers.
Astute cut and run comments are valid from whom ever/where ever they are posted - Mister smegmaslurping bollock chops NAMBLA. One doesn’t have to be in the British Army/USMC etc to be aware of the catastrophic disaster that the shrill cowardly leftist afterbirth demands for retreat and/or running away would (collectively) inflict on ALL THE WESTERN DEMOCRACIES if perpetrated.
NOW PRETEND its already FEB 28TH AND F_ OFF!!
By Mallory
November 12, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this
I predict that the newly elected Democratic majority will have to alienate the base that brought them into power. Not unlike what the Republicans did to their base.
Problems in Iraq somehow inspired the far left to rile up the anti-patriotic spirit that once flooded the streets with protests during the Vietnam War in the 1960s. Half-truths from documentaries such as Fahrenheit 9/11 were readily embraced, while liberals continued to fuel their fury instead of considering the difficult position the president was in when he neutralized the Baathist regime in Iraq.
Perhaps that’s why so many moderate Democrats left the party that year and voted for the opposition, or abstained. Defectors adopted the slogan, “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party - the Democratic Party left me.” The result was disastrous for the party, causing a stunning reversal of fortune when Mr. Kerry lost by more than 3 million votes nationwide.
Although the anti-Bush, anti-war strategy worked for the Democrats in this election, they now face immense pressure to end the war in Iraq from the very base of support that helped maneuver them to victory. In time, they may realize that finding a solution to the extreme anti-Americanism that has been developing in the Middle East the past few decades isn’t as easy as it seems.
Virulently criticizing the president, John Kerry and his supporters are no longer the right people. The last thing the party needs is a repeat of 2004 in 2008, which, in its own way, was a repeat of the anti-war McGovern platform in 1972. To no surprise, Mr. Kerry met the same fate as George McGovern, and the Democratic Party is no better for it.
It’s time for Mr. Kerry and those liberals stuck in the Vietnam era to wake up and view the world in the post-9/11 era. If they can’t, then, as Mr. Kerry once said, “It’s time for a regime change.” Your reign died the day you opened your botched mouth Senator (Allah be praised) Kerry.
The anti-war crowd is now irrelevant and I say it couldn’t have happened to a more self-deserving, virulent bunch of anti-american loudmouths.
Change is good, but not always rewarding.
By RW-(the original)
November 12, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this
Pope rednecks and finch,
Do you two insist that everyone is drunk just because you lack the intelligence to understand their posts?
Very sad and between one of you scattershot posting for hours at people that aren’t even here and the other one sitting here clicking refresh every two minutes waiting for Andy to post, it’s pretty psychotic.
Everyone else has told you both for ages to seek help and that’s obviously not going to happen, so my advice is for you just to continue here where you are harmless.
By RW-(the original)
November 12, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
Nice balanced touch to the AJC editorial page today. Wooten goes on vacation so we have Queen Pinko on the left side of the page in her usual spot and for a different perspective the right side of the page is……Jay Bookman.
Jim, unless you are planning retirement I would send in a column next week if I were you.
By Mallory
November 12, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
Van, Your link on google doesn’t surprise me. I’ll bet their Halloween commemoration had a picture of Bush as a boogeyman. Their pathetic paranoia is misguided.
In their ever growing smaller minds, the enemy is AMERICA THE IMPERIALIST NATION OF WARMONGERS & CAPITALISTS, while they enjoy all that she has to offer in the process.
Chronic whiners, every one.
The Dems have backed themselves into a corner and they never saw it coming. I’m hoping that’s the only thing they miss.
By getalife
November 12, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this
RW,
I think all right wing pundits should retire or be fired.
Their dishonesty and just being plain wrong about everything was bad for our country.
The propaganda coming from these people were allowing a fascist regime to destroy our country.
Only the left wing were outraged and telling the truth.
By RW-(the original)
November 12, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Strange reasoning that you think only one voice should be heard to prevent a fascist state.
Do you ever think through these wacky things you come up with?
By We Get It Already
November 12, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this
getalife wants everyone to STFU, except KOS, of course.
Why don’t he begone to KOS, you ask?
Is it not looney enough for him?
By Political Foreskin
November 12, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this
Bush was quick with interior decorator’s names for Pelosi. He got those names from Foley and Haggard, of course.
By getalife
November 12, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this
Just stating the obvious like I normally do.
Its called reality.
Deal with it.
By Filster
November 12, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this
Well, at the risk of saying I told you so…. Rumsfeld was a completely inept Secretary of Defense. His arrogance, his unwillingness to listen to the men and women who actually had to carry out his order, and steadfast refusal to look back and admit he made a mistake, etc. should all go towards ensuring that Rumsfeld shall be looked back at an @ss who causes the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of American serviceman. Primary case in point,when the Iraqi war first started, the travel light, travel fast strategy was best suited for the war plan. However, it quickly became evident after Iraq was subdued (well, quickly evident to everyone but Rumsfled but what the heck, he knows better than everyone else, right) we did in fact change into an occupational force, and that requires armor and force. The hell with the political ramifications, we needed to change into a force suited to deal with IEDs, suicide bombers, and everything else that is STILL going on over there. But there are still unarmored HumVees, soldiers without proper body armor, etc., etc., etc. And there are still American troops dying needlessly. And that charge must be layed solely at Rumsfled’s feet because he was in charge. Look at the article in the Navy, Marine Corps, Army, and Air Force Times stating Rumsfeld has lost the confidence of the troops. Civilians cannot know how unheard of that is, or how bad things must have been for that article to be printed. I would almost agree Rumsfled should be broght up on some sort of charges, or at least whatever civilian equivalent of a dishonorable discharge is so he doesn’t enjoy the benefits of a pension. And for those who may respond about how I’m unpatriotic, a liberal, etc., I am a retired USN Chief Petty Officer who served through the first Gulf War. I know first hand that chemical weapons were used on us, and still wonder whether Hussein used them all or we just haven’t found them. As for the current Iraq war, noly time will reveal it if was truly justified or not, but as for the way it’s ben handled since the first several weeks, Rumsfeld should face the full consequences of HIS decisions, and those consequences should be severe! Good riddence I say. Sadly, it cones several years to late. P.S. Wonder if General Powell might want the job….
By We Get It Already
November 12, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
By RW-(the original)November 12, 2006 01:34 PM Pope rednecks and finch, Do you two insist that everyone is drunk just because you lack the intelligence to understand their posts?
RW: It just goes to show you that the libs do not know how to conduct themselves unless it’s in a foaming at the mouth, blind, mindless rage.
These coming two years are going to be a coming to life of their actions on this blog; a pure unadulterated display of insanity.
For instance, holding kangaroo courts against a war that they voted for.
I don’t remember anyone voting in favor of Clinton lying.
This is all about being in power for the pinkos, telling everyone else to STFU.
By Political Foreskin
November 12, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
The Falcons really stink today. The Browns are the worst team I’ve ever seen, and they’re up by 11 at the half.
It’s .500 Mora.
By Mallory
November 12, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this
Filster’s limited cut & paste opinion warrants a rebuttal.
The real Rumsfeld I knew
What Rumsfeld believed, said and did differs from the caricature. The public picture of him today is drawn from news accounts reflecting the views of people who disapproved of his policies or disliked him. Rumsfeld, after all, can be brutally demanding and tough. But I believe history will be more appreciative of him than the first draft has been. What will last is serious history, which, like serious literature, can distinguish appearance from reality.
By RW-(the original)
November 12, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this
We Get It Already,
Between their rattling the bars of their playpens and slobbering all over themselves and getalife’s Nazi imitation, this will be a wild ride for the next few months.
By Political Foreskin
November 12, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this
Cheney thinks that victory in Iraq means that the Iraqis take responsibility for their own fate. Iraqis are chomping at the bit to do just that. The US wont let them. Why?
The democratically elected Shia Majority in Parliament want to weild their US trained army to crush the Sunni insurgency. (read genocide/civil war)
We cant stay. We cant leave. We are in a catch 22 of Bush/Cheney’s own making. If we stay 100 years, and spend every penny we produce, the Iraqis will still continue their 10K year old civil war.
Never underestimate the power of hate.
Never underestimate the stupidity of puppets for the Saudis. (Bush/cheney)
They are both traitors who sold our country out to foreign corps. They belong behind bars. Impeach Bush/Cheney now, let Pelosi be prez.
President Pelosi……I like that…..I like that real good.
By Mallory
November 12, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this
Holy crap. It’s foreskin flapping in the breeze of despair. When is Wooten going to give me that noseclip?
I’ll suggest a clothespin for his flapper, and a brand new line he can hang it on.
By Political Foreskin
November 12, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this
Doesn’t matter if Falcons win today. They cant stand up to a good team. They’re down 14-10 in the 4th quarter, but they’ll win. The Browns? Please.
Mora has to go. he doesn’t understand football at all.
By Mallory
November 12, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this
Political flapper, Before I accept your defeatist attitude, please explain why Muslims (likely tribal in origin) aren’t killing one another in countries like the U.S.
Could it possibly have anything to do with their new found freedom from oppressive rulers? Are you prepared to deny them the same opportunity in their own country.
With Iran involved in the insurgency in Iraq, Saudi Arabia is watching closely & advising that the U.S. not redeploy. The Saudi government doesn’t want Iran in Iraq.
You seem to have no confidence in the ability to change so why the hell did you even bother to vote, or did you?
You probably sat it out and admired your handle.
By time for the truth
November 12, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this
FINALLY some GLORIOUS news from Cuba…
long long overdue of course.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228885,00.html
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 12, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this
Democratic Party chief Howard Dean told host Jon Stewart, “I know half your audience wants us to impeach the president”— this drew wide cheers — “but it’s not going to happen.”
If democrats can keep their immaturity in check for two years there’s a good chance they’ll hold on to power.
Bwahahahaha.
Who am I kidding.
By @@
November 12, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this
For the Veterans:
“America united with a handful of troops, or without a single soldier, exhibits a more forbidding posture to foreign ambition than America disunited, with a hundred thousand veterans ready for combat.” — James Madison 1787
I sure hope we haven’t blown it. It would have been so easy to do.
By getalife
November 12, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this
So much for bipartisan bs from w
By bon scott
November 12, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this
By We Get It Already - November 12, 2006 02:32 PM - It just goes to show you that the libs do not know how to conduct themselves unless it’s in a foaming at the mouth, blind, mindless rage.
And just what would you call your insulting personal attacks on the Luckovich blog, Andy? Reasoned debate?
You post provocative neocon rants on the blog of a liberal cartoonist and express surprise when people respond in kind?
You’re such a pathetic hypocrite.
For instance, holding kangaroo courts against a war that they voted for.
Yes, a war Democratic lawmakers voted for after being fed intelligence cherry-picked by the White House that “proved” Iraq was an imminent threat.
(Then CIA head George) Tenet complied with administration demands that the CIA gloss over inconsistencies between intelligence data and Bush’s assertions (that Iraq had WMDs and was a threat) and should be held accountable, Levin said. The report quoted committee testimony this year by Tenet, who acknowledged “it was the wrong thing to do.”
Fortunately, the American voter realized that Bush had sold them a bill of goods and voted accordingly in Tuesday’s elections. And these truths make any possible proceedings against Bush lackeys anything but “kangaroo courts”.
This is all about being in power for the pinkos, telling everyone else to STFU.
Pathetic hypocrite. Blow me.
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 12, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this
By bon scott November 12, 2006 05:09 PM And just what would you call your insulting personal attacks on the Luckovich blog, Andy? Reasoned debate?
General Seeker attacks his demon, Andy!
Never mind that no one asked this f*-got for his opinion, I’m his life.
So stalk away you loser.
By Political Foreskin
November 12, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
Studies show that it takes 2x as long to leave a parking place when you see someone waiting to pull into your space. Scientists say it’s some sort of primative instinct akin to territoriality. “I’ve got it. You want it? Too bad! You can just wait till I find a good song on the radio, comb my hair, and let me auto warm up a bit, you know….”
That’s when you assume the early man behavier of crouching when the guy waiting starts shooting at your car!
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 12, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
This sickness of bon scott’s goes way back:
By I Report, You Whine June 1, 2006 08:10 AM From the Vent: To the South Carolina gentleman who came into a well-known Buckhead steakhouse and was more high maintanence than Whitney at rehab: Thanks for not leaving a tip. I’ll pay my rent with my $2.13 an hour. finch!
By RW-(the original) June 1, 2006 08:33 AM What is it about a few news and opinion articles, that you can easily choose to scroll past, that drive you tossers crazy? Andy, I saw that vent and for some reason never made the finch connection. Too funny! finch, get down to Buckhead and pony up cheapskate!
All of these are name jacks:
By Andy June 1, 2006 08:34 AM I’m ready to start spamming because I’ve already p* on myself I’m so angry.*
By Andy June 1, 2006 08:35 AM | I know it’s you, Midori, N-GA, Seether, Rushncap! Pieces of sh-it!
By Andy June 1, 2006 08:37 AM My other name is the “Bed Wetter.”
By Andy June 1, 2006 08:39 AM I like lullabyes song to me.
Guess who just happened to be near by:
By seeker June 1, 2006 08:52 AM Nope, not me. I never name-jack. Read RW’s post^^ at 8:33, finchie thought RW called him the name jacker, hahaha.
And then:
By seeker answering for finch/bon scott^^ June 1, 2006 10:00 AM RW, Today’s ‘toon (which, of course, hasn’t been posted yet) features the Dixie Chicks. Serendipity? And I swear I’m not the Buckhead cheapskate. I have proof! Time-stamped surveillance video, ATM slips… if those things can clear the Dule lacrosse team, then by golly they can clear me!
This dude is a major mental case.
By RW-(the original)
November 12, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this
The final charge of General Seeker and his ghost army, finch/mirror/seneca/bon scott/etal. Making himself look like the obsessed psycho that he is by letting Andy control his every waking thought and probably his dreams if one can sleep with that many voices in their head.
Sybil,
One day you should look over a thread or two and see who starts this garbage. A HUGE percentage of the times it’s YOU!
By bon scott
November 13, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this
By I Voted For The War and Want Others To Fight It - November 12, 2006 05:59 PM - This sickness of bon scott’s goes way back… {{cue rambling, link filled spewing}}
Andy, you’re so darn sensitive! Heh. And I have absolutely no idea what your posts and links about tipping in Buckhead mean. None!! Seriously, you hurt whatever credibility you have when you post nonsense like this. It’s the booze, right?
By RW-(monkeyshines) - November 12, 2006 06:00 PM - The final charge of bon scott/etal. Making himself look like the obsessed psycho that he is by letting Andy control his every waking thought and probably his dreams if one can sleep with that many voices in their head.
Naaah! Andy shows that if anybody’s obsessed, it’s him. I post a few lines in response to his sexual insults and he spittles all over his keyboard. Random links and everything!
One day you should look over a thread or two and see who starts this garbage. A HUGE percentage of the times it’s YOU!
Demonstrably false. I post links to reputable sources on serious subjects, as do others. But Andy can’t make a criticism of these without questioning someone’s sexuality. I have responded by calling him a drunk. I think he reacts so strongly to this charge because it’s true. It would be a better place here if Andy stopped his ad hominem attacks, but I’m not holding my breath.
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