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What does it all mean?

A vacationing Jim is counting on you to analyze the election results and tell the rest of us what really happened Tuesday, what voters were saying.

What do the election results mean for Georgia, for George W. Bush and for the Iraqi phase of the war on terrorism? It’s an easy assigment. Go for it.

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By Brian Curtis

November 8, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this

Hey, Andy:

Looks like your favorite pack of traitors and cowards LOST.

smirk

The Repugnicans’ corruption and incompetence was always obvious… but now it’s been officially confirmed. And all their cunning tactics of fearmongering, distraction, and mudslinging have FAILED.

SMIRK

How tragic it must be for a pathetic, hateful little drone like you. To know that you lost… and America won.

HUGE SMIRK

By Mid-South Philosopher

November 8, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

It would be a little too presumptuous to say that the voters took “Georgie” Bush to the woodshed yesterday. That dubious honor was reserved for those members of the Congress…largely Republican…who have performed less than proficiently in the opinion of their constituents. At the most, “Georgie” and his architect, Karl…Haldeman…excuse me…Rove, were sent to their rooms without supper. They have largely been neutered in that the Democrats now control the House and, as all tax bills must originate there, one may assume that “era of the Bush tax cuts” is over.

Assuming that Republicans hold on to the Senate, impeachment is out. However, we can expect much inquiry and criticism of the President’s performance. Little of value will be accomplished over the next two years.

As much as I hate to say it…”today is the first day of the rest of the 2008 campaign!”

By White Jesus

November 8, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

Calling out all the Democrats…

Let’s hear the excuses….voter intimidation? voter suppression? voter fraud? Recounts?

I’m sorry…I mean calling out all the Republicans…bahahahahahahahabababaaaaahahahahaa!!!! White Jesus Loves you all…TFTT is on suicide watch, Marcus choked on Van’s dugan last night…RIP

By Realist

November 8, 2006 08:29 AM | Link to this

Congratulations to the dems and those who support them. This is a red letter day for those making $25K a year and less.

For the rest of us, not so good.

Should be fun to watch this group try to govern.

GW just bought in a fresh case of red ink for his line item veto stamp. bwaaaaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaa !!

By harold

November 8, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

So why did Georgia buck the trend? Well, the Democrats put the most repulsive worthless group of people ever seen on a ballot.

Mark Taylor the Hutt and his Bride of Frankenstein? What’s up with the white eye shadow? When did SHADOW start meaning WHITE? Or is that maybe a secret WHITE POWER thing perhaps? and Jim Bob what’s his name for Lt G’bner? He look like that crazy hayseed on the Bill the Cat cartoons. Denise “I got Cynthia McKinney re-elected” Majette? Give it up, girlfren. Nothing you can do will ever overcome that middle name. Gail Buckner just wants to serve people? Get a waitress job at the Waffle House. That’s what you sound qualified to do!

WORTHHless.

so we are stuck with these lesser evil republicans until they implode like the national ones already did. georgia always lags a couple years.

harold predicts cagle gets arrested for something heinous inside 18 months. harold never seen somebody so damn creepy not even Haggard. the coverup will bring down some others.

By Charlotte

November 8, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this

While this should be a wake-up call for the Republican party, it isn’t exactly a mandate for Democrats either.

What this really means is that Republicans can no longer ignore MODERATES. Pandering to right-wing evangelicals was the Republicans’ Achilles heel in this election. Learn from it.

By deegee

November 8, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

Crusty is still passed out after anesthesizing herself with mint juleps. Unfortunately the election results mean that Georgia can look forward to four years of a republican goobernador and now a lieutenant goobernador. We are more redneck red state than we were on Monday and that’s bad news for Georgia. Couldn’t be happier though for the national results. Let’s hope that the trends in Montana and Virginia hold up throughout the recount. The Iraqis seem to be optimistic about the change. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15619326/

By Fat Fuzzy Gay Guy

November 8, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

Good Morning, Jim, I hope the trip is going well. What does it mean? It means that in a race where many negative ads, from folks and groups based FAR outside Georgia, were run and literally MILLIONS of dolalrs were spent; a race where, after salvo after slavo had been fired by those non-Georgians and a reply was finally sent out, in Typical Republican Fashion you attacked those who replied rather than those who fired the first shots because those first-shooters were “on your side”, the voters of Georgia rejected the outside and inside insidious influences to keep Justice Hunstein.

On a day where Republicans can crow about their many victories, what do you think about this one spectacular defeat?

By Brian Curtis

November 8, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

On the other hand, the fascists—oops, I mean Republicans—can take heart at how close the results were, even with all their blunders and scandals.

Now they know exactly how badly they have to screw things up for the Democrats to have a chance at beating them. If only they can find some candidates next time around who AREN’T corrupt, perverted, or lying hypocrites, they just might win this thing!

By jbmlaw

November 8, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Good morning, all. The sun still rises in the east, and the sky is still blue. I perceive the Democrats elected yesterday were mostly not radical leftists, so other than the increases in estate taxes, there is little that will happen to change life in the US over the next couple of years. My guess is that the Democrats elected yesterday would like to show the average voter that they can be trusted to make intelligent decisions.

To offer a hypothetical, if President Bush – at the state of the union message next year – tells Congress that the war in Iraq is running into some tough times, and that we need additional funds for additional armaments and men on the ground, how will Congress react? My forecast is that he will get anything he asks for.

By harold

November 8, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this

Even if the senate ends up 50/50, all it takes is one R to switch parties. so many of them do seem to do whatever seems politically expedient, it’s bound to happen. the senate will go D in January no matter what happens with Montana & Virginia.

By GodHatesTrash

November 8, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this

While the rest of the nation begins to put the hate and the fear and the lying and the corruption behind them, the South continues to embrace it - only one house seat changed in FL, NC, TX. Nice job lynching Harold Ford Jr, in TN, too, you filthy trash.

You southrons are ignorant animals. The GOP is your party now, a party of pigs and trash.

By Sailor

November 8, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this

Andie - you OK girlfriend.

Please don’t kill yourself, baby.

At least not without one last go around with the Sailor.

By Political Foreskin

November 8, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

The Roadkill in this country is getting bigger and bigger.

W can still stink the country up by cloning his signature on future legislation with his in-veto fertilization pen.

By GodHatesTrash

November 8, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this

I feel jbm, et. al.’s pain - the apparent demise of Senator Macacawitz - a horrible blow to the Confederate Restoration.

Southrons. Pigs. Trash. Filth.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

Im glad that this is over. It’s been a long strenuous battle. However, now that the people have spoken, perhaps now our politicians will start listening to them. There are more “centrists” who love America but HATE the war, moe “centrists” who hate the desecreation of our constitution and our civil liberties, more “centrists” who want our elected officials to be accountable for their actions and not have to apologize under our breaths to the rest of the world for the a*******holes we negligently put into office.

I think it’s a good trend. Now the politicians will HAVE to work together, they now have no choice. This is a great day for Americans.

By Political Foreskin

November 8, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

Cheney is going hunting for the 1st time since he won his sharpshooting medal in the bud light reenactment of the shootout at the OK corral.

Cheney says we’re dealing with the people we need to be dealing with to rescue our missing soldier.

That implies the Iraqi government is negotiating with terrorists. What happened to shock and awe? Now it’s “aw shucks”.

Bush and Cheney installed a terrorist regime in Iraq, (it’s so obvious).

Iraq is over. The truth will be known by x-mas, and we will be gone by spring, at least redeployed as Murtha suggested.

.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this

Im glad that this is over. It’s been a long strenuous battle. However, now that the people have spoken, perhaps now our politicians will start listening to them. There are more “centrists” who love America but HATE the war, moe “centrists” who hate the desecreation of our constitution and our civil liberties, more “centrists” who want our elected officials to be accountable for their actions and not have to apologize under our breaths to the rest of the world for the a*******holes we negligently put into office.

I think it’s a good trend. Now the politicians will HAVE to work together, they now have no choice. This is a great day for Americans.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

Im glad that this is over. It’s been a long strenuous battle. However, now that the people have spoken, perhaps now our politicians will start listening to them. There are more “centrists” who love America but HATE the war, moe “centrists” who hate the desecreation of our constitution and our civil liberties, more “centrists” who want our elected officials to be accountable for their actions and not have to apologize under our breaths to the rest of the world for the a*******holes we negligently put into office.

I think it’s a good trend. Now the politicians will HAVE to work together, they now have no choice. This is a great day for Americans.

By R Johnson

November 8, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

Where is the AJC report and comment on the outrageous, insulting and race baiting ad presented on behalf of Fulton County Commissioner Eaves election efforts by Mayor Franklin, Andy Young and John Lewis? You hear in the street the occassional opinion of these people as proponents of the use of racism as retribution but now all doubt has been removed hasn’t it? So much to be proud of as a citizen of Atlanta, isn’t there? Is this really what the message of MLK was or do these folks just represent a ripped off, anger filled distortion of the dream? One can only hope the truly intelligent Atlanta voters of all races remember the true nature of these folks in future elections. Absolutely embarrassing in the least and scary at a deeper level.

By KA

November 8, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this

Big Government moves slowly, and no matter what politicans and media pundits say, we are not in for any big changes soon. Name calling and divisive rhetoric is immature and beside the point. No matter who steers the boat they have the same waters to navigate. Good Luck and I hope there is some calming of the bigmouths and hotheads now.

By MELO

November 8, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this

GO DEMS GO DEMS GO DEMS GO DEMS!!!!!!

The agenda is immigration, minimum wage, medicare bill,oversight on Iraq, and corruption(dollars for contracts in Iraq) and possibly impeachment(yes, dont believe the coy responses FROM Dems) My prediction is that with all the noise coming down on him,Rummy wont last that long. Jim on leave? How convenient!! His brains are realigned this morning and I know is:

THINKING LEFT!

I am happy some of us “Macacas”(I bet THAT dog is losing in Virginia) with no place in Republican politics will finally be on our way to some form of citizenship, because the House will pass that Bush Immigration bill this time!!!!!!!!

I LUV AMRICA AND IM LIVINGI MY DREAMES.HAHAHA.

By Brian Curtis

November 8, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

Debbie: It’s an encouraging thought, but did you mean to post it three times?

By KA

November 8, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

Debbie, There are people who can help you with your stuttering.

By Political Foreskin

November 8, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

Our long national nightmare is over.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

The bright side, of course, is that that statesman, Sonny Perdoofus, won the goobernatorial race and can continue to enrich himself and his friends at the expense of his fellow Georgians.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

Now the the mission is accomplished.

Madam Speaker Pelosi, drain this swamp of that freak show.

There is hope for America.

Accountabilty for credibilty.

The whole world is cheering!

By GodHatesTrash

November 8, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this

The funny thing about Senator Macacawitz - what did him in was not the fact that he’s a filthy stupid stumpbroke racist, but that the rednecks didn’t turn out for him since they found out he was part Jew.

Rural southerners. Trash.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

In other news I’m REAL happy about this one!:

ORLANDO - Sen. Bill Nelson easily and expectedly won reelection Tuesday night, besting Republican Katherine Harris, who ended her campaign the way she started it: badly down at the polls and snubbed by GOP leaders. Nelson jumped to a commanding, double-digit lead early and never let up, indicating that Harris — contrary to her repeated claims — had little crossover appeal among Democrats and independents and managed mainly to attract her own Republican base, owing to her hard-right campaign. Harris conceded in a 9 p.m. phone call. In many ways, the results were a fait accompli for the Longboat Key congresswoman whose role as Florida’s secretary of state in the botched 2000 elections established her as the most polarizing woman in state politics. To that end, the White House and national Republicans pressured her to stay out of the 2004 Senate race, when the president ran for reelection, and then tried to recruit candidates to run against her this year.

Then, on Monday, White House event organizers kept Harris from appearing onstage with President Bush in Pensacola. A number of Harris supporters Tuesday night said the slight was inexcusable.

After all she did to help him win in 2000, this is how he repays her…..

By Aquagirl

November 8, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

It’s just continuing the trend started when Ralph Reed got his halo kicked to the curb in the primaries. Maybe now the Republicans will cut loose nutcases like him who have been polluting the country.

And of course it means some heavy prozac for Markus, TFTT, et. al. But that goes without saying.

By R Johnson

November 8, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

Where is the AJC report and comment on the outrageous, insulting, race baiting ad presented on behalf of Fulton County Commissioner Eaves election efforts by Mayor Franklin, Andy Young and John Lewis? You hear in the street the opinion of these people as perpetrators of racism as retribution but now any doubt has been removed hasn’t it? So much to be proud of as a citizen of Atlanta, isn’t there? Is this really what the message of MLK was or do these folks just represent a rip off, anger filled distortion of the dream? One can only hope that Atlanta voters of all races remember the true nature of these folks in future elections.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

BC: I’m sorry my server suddenly went whacko!! Didn’t mean to post it three times!

KA: A swan song for you: Nah, nah, nah,nah, nah, nah, nah, Hey Heyyy, GOODBYE!!!

Life is good….

By Brian Curtis

November 8, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

Not to worry, Aquagirl. In true psychotic-nutcase fashion, they’ll find a way to ignore this mere collection of facts and spin it as some sort of encouraging sign for eventual Total Republican Rule.

Just watch, they’ll Drudge up something. It’ll be entertaining!

By thppt

November 8, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

Next up: a bunch of congressional investigations into rackateering such as bid rigging in Iraq. The elephants will lose in those.

If the Senate is controlled by Democrats, expect impeachment.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

Where is the AJC report and comment on the outrageous, insulting and race baiting ad presented on behalf of Fulton County Commissioner Eaves election efforts by Mayor Franklin, Andy Young and John Lewis?

I didn’t hear or see any ads. Where were they mostly playing? Can u give a brief synopsis of what was said?

By Markus

November 8, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

Well, all I can say is that I’m happy it’s over and the dems won.. sort of. I’m happy that we won’t have to hear about countless stories of voter intimidation, no-backup on electronic voting machines, and other alleged legal snafus that the dems has whined about during the past three national elections. It’s over. Thank God.

Now, for any liberals out there who think you have a hard socialist leftist victory in your hands, think again. Take a good hard look at those House seats won, and you’ll see moderate and Conservative Democrats, not liberals. In the Senate run for example, even though he lost, Harold Ford may be a Democrat, but he’s not a liberal.

Rhode Island and Virginia were a shocker. Some screwy things went on in VA (which will be the 2000 Florida and 2004 Ohio), specifically around the Beltway and Richmond, but that happened elsewhere too. Stopping short of saying intentional fraud like the left would do if they lost and filing lawsuits like babies, I’ll call it polling managerial incompetence.

Regarding the House itself, it is going to be interesting to watch how the moderate dems struggle with the liberals like Pelosi. After all, the moderates know mainstream America will have nothing to do with the hard left just like the evangelical right. It’s going to be interesting to watch this power grab the next couple months.

After sleeping on it, I’m glad the Republicans got their butts spanked last night. All those people in those states that voted for Conservative Reaganism in 1980 and 1984 by a landslide are certainly not dead, nor are those who voted for Gingrichism in 1994. So dems, you can celebrate, but use your power wisely. In the meantime, I’d like to kick Hastert’s @ss and many others into next week for losing site of reality.

The question remains now how much will actually get done in Washington for the next two years. Even if the dems get the Senate by one or two votes, it takes a 60-vote supermajority to get anything major passed. The tax cut issue is going to be interesting. All those “evil rich” people in households and small biz owners who make more than $100,000/yr. are going to rue the day they let this happen. The minimum wage increase the left wants? Many small biz owners say they will hire less part time Holiday help if forced to pay $7.50/hr. So go ahead dems, put your best socialist foot forward and see what you get.

In any event, I sorely hate to disappoint you dems out there and take the fun out of the game, but my life hasn’t changed over the past 24 hours, and won’t really change no matter what goes on in Washington.. I don’t rely on the government for my very existence.

By Watta Load

November 8, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Seems like there’s gloatin` aplenty all around…I’m pleased with the outcome (except in the south) but I’ll resist the temptation to rub it in.

Americans don’t like the pendulum to swing too far in any direction…Bush needs his reins pulled back…plus the corruption of those high profile Republicans like Delay was never dealt with…the Dems are probably just as bad but they have not been in the limelight…they will be now.

Hopefully the message received is we don’t send folks to the capitols to get rich.

I have no clue what will happen in the Middle East…probably nothing for awhile.

I see that Wall Street doesn’t care for the election. I saw on CNN yesterday that a kid right out of college can get in on a $300,000/year gig on Wall Street. That just ain’t right…for buying and selling with someone else’s money?

By sct

November 8, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

“I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it.”

…If only Bush had invested wisely. Now look, 2 years later and he’s almost bankrupt.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

There is much work to do.

I think it will take two years to clean up the mess and lock up all the criminals.

Need more Federal prisons.

By R. Cagle

November 8, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

It means that her minions have been chosen to prepare for the coming of the Anti-Christ herself in 2008.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

I just bought the paper this morning - a picture of a beaming moonfaced redneck adorns the front page. All’s right with the world, especially Georgia.

Buffoons lead by a buffoon.

By Aquagirl

November 8, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

Debbie, about the commercial cited @9:22 it was a nasty and (for me) really disappointing ad. Neal Boortz has the transcript in his daily notes, and a link to a recording of the commercial, lest you not rely on his written interpretation.

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

By Dim Liberal

November 8, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

HUGE, HUGE, HUGE LIBERAL SMIRK

By GodHatesTrash

November 8, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

With regard to the ad in Fulton County, let’s face it - the Georgia GOP is just the Klan without the sheets. They’re a bunch of stupid angry animals.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

I think we need to get back to following the rules and laws.

If you fail like Rumsfeld, Cheney and w, you get fired.

We need to show the children to follow the rules and do the right thing.

We should never reward failure like the gop did.

By sumwit4u

November 8, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

Well, the scoundrels were voted out!! Now a new bunch of scoundrels take office… “we the sheeple” have lost either way, seems to me. The “Chicken Littles” of the country can now feel safer because the ???Iraquis??? won’t “terrorize us. LOL. Wonder how that guy, oh, what’s his name, oh yeah—Osama Bin Ladin thinks about the elections. He keeps close enough ties to CNN and our governmental officials to get tapes of himself to them, yet we can’t seem to back-track those tapes and find him. I don’t know, or care, what the difference is between Sunni’s and Sheiits (sp?) and how they feel about our elections. Guess it depends on whose side we are “helping out.” I THINK we are for the Sunni’s, but am not sure and would ask someone to let me know the difference between the holy-warring civil war participants. I would also ask why we are fighting over there still. W’s declared “victory” twice, once after we bombed h*ll out of them and again when Saddam was sentenced to hang. The hanging is justified, as far as I know, for the way they say he treated his people, but I still don’t know why we got into the mess based on faulty intelligence or, more importantly, why we are staying in the war after we know he doesn’t and didn’t have WMD’s. We didn’t blockade Cuba back in ‘62 until we had hard evidence, PICTURES, of the missles. Our spy satelites are MUCH better nowadays, so why did we never see anything conclusive. I regret to say I voted for Bush and the Rep’s. Now I wish I could vote for his impeachment for crimes against the U.S. citizens. Unlawful wire-tapping, watching our every move, including the FBI interrogating a teenager for her web page, continuing to kill our boys, many just teenagers, in a civil war halfway around the world. Our leaders can’t seem to say “Sorry, we were wrong about the WMD’s” and pull out. One excuse is that it would disrespect those who have made the supreme sacrifice in Iraq. So we will continue to pile bodies on top of those bodies to save face. Does ANYONE believe the lie that Iraq is the main haven for terrorists who are, presumably, planning to attack the U.S.?? No, the REAL terrorists are in Washington telling us to be terrified. Apparently the majority of Americans believe they are under a terrorist attack. We have already LOST the war—we’ve let them terrify us. This country needs to go back to a “God, Guns and Guts” mindset, not a “Chicken Little” one. I am an independant voter who votes for/against the PERSON, not the Party. What we REALLY need in Washington are people of principle!!! That’s my two cents worth. Now I’m going back to closely watch what level of terrorist threat we are under. Yellow or blue or red or magenta. NOT.

By JP

November 8, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Charlotte, I’m with you. America shows it’s fed up, and Georgia shows it remains a backwards bastion of Bush boot-licking. Not even with everything that’s happened can a Georgian execute a protest vote.

Maybe those of us who are educated, high-income Democrats (over $50k thank you) should leave the state. I’m considering it, I’d rather be in a place with people of like mind—and, perhaps, a decent subway system that the suburban rednecks haven’t nixed.

Yes, I’ve lost hope that Georgia will ever “change,” so out of the three options I see (love it, leave it, make it better) the only one left is leave-it. Giving up on my principles isn’t in my blood.

By Dana

November 8, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this

Debbie - you are such a breath of fresh air in here!

One of the most disheartening things in the last few years has been watching politics slide further and further into polarization. Maybe now we can begin to find political representation that more closely follows what we (the average American) actually believe! I don’t know which is more hideous or further from reality, the hard left or the hard right!

I’m not going to join in with the crowing I see today - As it happens I did not (and have never) voted a straight ticket - and I am happy to see that “The Big Guy” was NOT elected. But oh how I wish, and how I look forward to the day that I can vote for a candidate that I truly support rather than voting against ones I cannot begin to imagine having in office.

By Rod

November 8, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

To Realist, time for the truth and the others, all I have to say is:

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Oh, and by the way, HAHA!

By Richard

November 8, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

Where’s the little girl - tftt now? Huh? Cowering in her little pajamas, afraid to go out into the real world?

By KA

November 8, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

Debbie and the gloaters, I have voted 50-50 (Republican/Democrat) over my 36 year of voting. I vote for the person, not the party, and I did it in this election, too. The fact is that as I said earlier, Big Government moves slowly. I grew up under mostly Democratic controlled Congresses and Presidents. In case you weren’t alive, it was Kennedy who got us into VietNam and Johnson who escalated that conflict (and my dad who fought in it). Sorry to spoil your celebration, but things just won’t change as fast or as much as you think. It’s my government, too. I just hope that the immature and divisive name calling stops at the Congressional level. For crying out loud, they are adults, and all they can do is villify each other. The same goes for the immature name calling in this blog. A lot of people need to grow up and learn how to discuss the issues, and stop the emotional outbursts and name-calling.

By Renee

November 8, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

Jim timed his vacation perfectly! He isn’t man enough to run this column in person after a Democratic victory and since he knew the Dems would win, he took off! Little crybaby.

By R Cagle

November 8, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

Lest anyone forget, the Democrats are not in charge of the government and Donald Rumsfield has not been fired as someone suggested above. Nancy Pelosi is not a Prime Minister. Speaker is the preeminent legistative post for sure, but she will not be administering the government - that is still the President’s job. Hopefully we can take her at her word that she will work with the Republicans and President in a true bi-partisan manner. Otherwise, we will have two years of nothing happening till the next election. This will be doubly true if the Democrats take the Sentate. The President can veto afterall. It will be interesting.

By @@

November 8, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Well Jim: I’m disappointed, but not disheartened. I didn’t see yesterday’s win as supportive of liberal ideaology, but a call for application of the precautionary principle.

What concerns me most is to hear what the moderate Democratic candidates began saying once their win became apparent. “We will support Nancy Pelosi in her bid for speaker because she assured us our win.” It’s the ever obnoxious political payback and needless to say, corrupt Republicans received it in spades, while some good Republicans were caught up in an over-emotional reaction.

I’m still a holdout for the Senate. Investigations at this critical time may prove to be dangerous to our survival as a nation.

Of course you know that Ortega won in Nicaragua. A lot of folks who voted for him remain suspicious of his intentions, so I’ll liken the results of yesterday’s U.S. elections to those Nicaraguans who view Ortega with skepticism, but hey…..they’ve got their manure, complements of Hugo.

What’s that smell Jim?

By Middle America

November 8, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

Yesterday was a huge victory. Not for Democrats per say. It was a victory for the middle. We now have TWO HANDS ON THE WHEEL instead of just the RIGHT HAND. Time to put this car back on the road. There won’t be a radical shift left, because a lot of the democratic candidates were centrists. But what will happen is the blank check for Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld has been torn up. They will no longer be allowed to ignore the will of the people. Will we leave Iraq in a month? Of course not. But we’re going to move towards an exit strategy, instead of staying the course to destruction. The rest of the world can now take a breath, and say “okay the Americans do still have some people of good will and common sense.” Today, for the first time in 3 years, the world makes sense again.

By R Johnson

November 8, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

The Eaves ad was available on his website and has now been replaced by completely toned down messages from Franklin, Young and Lewis.

For the original Eaves ad go to:

http://www.640wgst.com/pages/TheKimmer.html

Scroll down the page until you see the comment about the ad and click the speaker icon. The full audio text of the ad is here. This was on the Eaves website until pulled sometime following the outrage that hit the radio yesterday afternoon. Not sure to whta radio stations it was released.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

But oh how I wish, and how I look forward to the day that I can vote for a candidate that I truly support rather than voting against ones I cannot begin to imagine having in office.

Amen to that!

By getalife

November 8, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

Back under rock macaca.

By Middle America

November 8, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

Oh, and funny how Jim Wooten takes a vaction, conveniently now, so he doesn’t have to explain why his party are LOSERS. But apparently Georgia is still locked in a death grip with Bush and will follow him to the end. What a bunch of bafoons.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

@@,

Investigations at this critical time may prove to be dangerous to our survival as a nation.

Nice try but it will bring back credibilty to our country with the rest of the world.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

gitmolife-

I’m not going anywhere, libofreak. This is a CONSERVATIVE blog. If you don’t like it, pack your bags and haul @ss. I sure won’t miss your non-input to this blog, snookums. Summatta? Didn’t have much to say to my response above to the victory last night?

By R Johnson

November 8, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

To GodHates Trash and your comment “With regard to the ad in Fulton County, let’s face it - the Georgia GOP is just the Klan without the sheets. They’re a bunch of stupid angry animals.”

One can only hope you have more personal experiences with people of all color who truly are color blind. Your racially motivated anger serves no productive purpose. It’s more baiting of the same tired hook as the black officials behind the Eaves ad.

By JP

November 8, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

@@ - Are you insane? How do you live with yourself making the argument “Investigations at this critical time may prove to be dangerous to our survival as a nation.”

This is the type of overt partisanship I refuse to take part in. If Democrats were in power and acting as punch-drunk as Republicans are now, I’d be demanding investigations.

Again, what a backwards bastion of Bush boot-licking this state has become.

By mo

November 8, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

Well, I see this as a win for the Democrats that will give them the power to call subpoenas. These subpoenas will try to bury the Bush White House in scandal, thus propelling a Democratic presidential candidate.

See, it is already starting… Pelosi- a Congress of Ethics is already being touted. All of this is to gather momentum for the White House.

Now I see the only way for a Republican can win the White House in 08 is to have a candidate that is distant from George Bush. Ethics (or the perceptions thereof) is the key here.

As far as anything really happening as far as legislation is concerned, nothing is going to happen. The legislative branch of our government will be in gridlock for the next two years, so you don’t have to worry about the Bush tax cuts or anything going away. And even though there may be impeachment talk, it won’t happen.

The only real tragedy from the President’s perspective is that the legislative portion of his presidency is effectively over. He won’t get anything on the floor.

See, this is what happens when you have narrow majorities in Congress… nothing.

It will be interesting to see what legislation will be brought up by the Democrats. I would like to see what they will come up with.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

Macaca after the elections

Bwhahahahahahahaha!

Loser!

By getalife

November 8, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this

Payback time: Democrats planning series of investigations Halliburton, the CIA and big tobacco companies are among the early targets identified by top Democratic staff to ABC News as likely targets for investigation once the Democrats take control of the House at the beginning of next year.

Karma!

By mo

November 8, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

Oh, and another thing… I actually thought that Harold Ford would have made a better Senator. Also, what was wrong with Michael Steele? I think those two elections prove that we just can’t have more than one black man in the Senate at one time.

Personally, Harold Ford has some fresh ideas. And Michael Steele is a moderate. Both are very like-able and would have actually gotten a lot of things done. I can see them reaching across the aisles and gaining consensus. All we are left with now are extremes on both sides that will bicker and complain their way out of getting stuff done.

By Robert

November 8, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

“You can fool some of the people all the time AND all of the people some of the the time. BUT you can’t fool all the people all the time”.

The majority of the people, those who are not easily fooled have spoken.

Hopefully the rest will see though the GOP fabrictions by the next elections. But if not, WHO CARES!!!!

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

Debbie and the gloaters, I have voted 50-50 (Republican/Democrat) over my 36 year of voting. I vote for the person, not the party

KA (who I secretly think is Dusty), I did not gloat, (I don’t think I did), I am however HAPPY that we have a more balanced government again. Total power should not be given to one party. Checks and balances is the way our government was set up and it works.

Now I ALSO vote for the person; I am not a Robot that follows political dogma laid out by the political juggernauts called Democrats and Republicans — I can think for myself thank you very much.

By Aquagirl

November 8, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

Oh, get over the radio ad, R Johnson.

The GOP has spent the last 12 years appealing to the worst instincts of the electorate. Democrats are terrorists! Gays will get married in your living room! Abortions will be performed in malls like ear piercings! Flag burners will be everywhere! Activist judges! The sky will fall if you vote Democrat!

Republicans are reaping the results of their negative ways. If all you have to complain about is one obscure ad, go for it. It makes you look like a whiner.

By JK

November 8, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

Mo, if the lack of “gridlock” in Congress means record spending, record deficits and debt, zero ethical oversight, and the LARGEST, most intrusive federal government in history, don’t you think perhaps a little gridlock now is a GOOD thing? Just a thought.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

The President can veto afterall

And 2/3 of Congress can ratify. God Bless America!!!

By Redneck Convert

November 8, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

Well, I’m late cause I been to the horsepitle with the missus. I got home late from Billy Bob’s and found the missus passed out from too much eating. Soon as she found out the libruls won, she started eating everything in the frigerater. Trying to kill herself by eating. Anyway, my buddy Jim Earl and a couple neybers loaded her into the bed of my pickup and we headed for Northside up along 400.

When she finally came to, she was real down on Markus, Realist, TFTT and the others that said the Republicans would hang on to both houses. She called them crooks and liars.

Anyway, I’m demanding all my pay in cash from now on, cause I know the taxes will go up when the Dems take over and I don’t want the feds to know about it. I’m one of the high income folks, making $20000 per year, and that Pelosi gang will come after me.

At least Sonny won. He’s real good at making friends, and maybe he can sidle up to Pelosi and other Dems and get some money for Ga. I’m sure they won’t hold it against him for being a Republican and all. Maybe he can show them how to get tax bills passed to benefit theirselfs.

It sure looks like the Republicans are just a southern party now. Anyway, I scratched off the W sticker on my truck. The way things is going, those libruls will come after us down here next, and I sure don’t want to paint a target for them to hit.

By Dana

November 8, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

Get a life - I am curious - is your goal to “win” or to be “correct” or is your goal to see a well governed America? Republican politics are not inherantly evil, though one would think so when reading your posts.

This isn’t the third grade and we aren’t chosing sides in a dodgeball game. We need to be working together, not trying to eliminate any other ideas or positions!

As for the Eaves ad, I hadn’t heard it before I went to the link (thank you for posting it!) and it makes me sick.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

So,

Pelosi & Co. are going to investigate Halliburton and the CIA now? THAT should be interesting since both were holdovers from the Clintoon administration. Or did your idiot self not know that gitmolife?

By ed lorenzo

November 8, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

WHAT IS NEXT?

Early this morning the Professor called me.

“You are still young and increasingly rich so that you can afford a taxi ride here and enjoy a first class breakfast. The election results deserve some serious commentary.”

I would not miss a session with the Proff on a date as important as the day after the elections of 2006. In twenty minutes I was ringing the bell at the familiar brownstone.

Just to look at the table that Antoine, the Professor’s majordomo had prepared, almost erased the purpose of the visit. There was a tray with two pitchers of fruit juices and one with the nixtures favored by the Professor that included a blend of exotic fruit juices laced with Champagne. The table had fruit cocktail cups, small bowls with yogurt enhanced with small pieces of dried fruits, an enticing cheese plate, scrambled eggs kept warm on the elaborate frying pan, separate pans for Canadian Bacon, sausages, thin slices of Hungarian blood sausage, and the filet of sole gently fried in butter with champignon and chopped onion, and encouraged with white wine, asparagus tips and selected herbs. That early in the morning it was no effort to honor Antoine’s culinary skills.

“Well, Professor, the Dems are in. Now what?”

‘You really want to hear?”

“The breakfast has prepared me to hear the best and the worst. Let us have it Professor!”

Without preamble, he began listing the pending matters that the new congressional arrangement will have to face, and hopefully, review, rectify, resolve or improve. It took him about five minutes to list them all, or most of them.

“Professor they’ll need five consecutive terms to accomplish a fraction of the items you mention!”

“I am not implying that they act upon everyone of them. I am simply drawing a blue print. Remember the Egyptian Pharaohs, who dominated civilization for a good while, had a board of specialists that did nothing but enumerate matters that had to be considered. Their motto: ‘You can never solve the problem if you do not look at it”

“Dou you really think so, Professor?’

Of course. If you don’t believe me, ask your doctor!”

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

JP, I think you’ve got the right idea. The Pope is making plans to leave the state of Georgia and its backward stumpbroke rabble/citizenry for more civilized environs, which would be practically anywhere except maybe Baghdad and Fallujah. I’ll be signing out of here early next year, if not forever for an extended period. I’ll be relocating my businesses (especially the payrolls) elsewhere, too, I’m tired of supporting the criminals and charlatans under the Georgia Dome.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

Interesting constitutional question - can Cheney preside over his own impeachment trial?

We’ll soon find out…

By getalife

November 8, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

Dana,

My goal was accountability to get credibilty back from the world.

Also, to save lives in Iraq.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

macaca,

Stop blaming “Clenis”

Blame your party.

By Jim in Marietta

November 8, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

The best thing to come out of the Democrats win of the House is that government will be hamstrung for a time and will not be able to pass legislation that results in the growth of government and its ability to spend money…my money.

By KA

November 8, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Debbie, I am not Dusty. I agree with you, I also vote for a balance of power. And trust me it will be awhile before anything really changes in Congress.

By time for the truth

November 8, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

So the scum won … although it was hardly a crushing victory as in 1994.

Even with the loss of the house and some senate seats there’s still some very good news. The useless wanker Hastert will be gone sooner than you can say Sonny crushed the sweaty fat bastard Taylor. Chaffee is finished politically which is superb news, having this arrogant leftist scumbag dishonestly keeping a GOP seat warm was always a sharp double edged sword.

The ineffectual tosser Frist is gone - though by his own hand. The GOP deadwood in Ohio and Indiana has mostly been cleared out. The religious nutter Delay is gone forever too. And the political/electoral effects of Abramoff etc have been “paid”. The racial liar Ford thankfully lost his race, all that fawning media bollocks about him was laughable. Steele was the best ‘new’ candidate who sadly lost.

Doubtless the GOP house leadership will get a severe kicking - at least in private. Hopefully with an entirely new team emerging.

The demoNcrats will find it hard to do very much of note ideologically as the 08 campaign has just started - if they attempt to impose their shrill cut and run leftist agenda they’ll swiftly fritter away their still very brittle advantage. What counts now is the WH and reelecting the new incumbents.

Happily the smug evangelical nutters will have quietly noted that their divisive influence is on the wane. It looks like we in the GOP will perhaps have to endure a more moderate presidential nomination to ensure yet another victory.

The congressional GOP - all of them - lost this by smugly assuming that a very belated appeal to the base would work again. Bush is to blame and Rove and the house leadership. Bush sat on his hands for way too long and allowed the demoNcrats and more tellingly the drive by media to define/frame almost every issue. After beating Kerry Bush should have been out pushing the positives and framing Iraq etc every week. Plus making very visible changes in tactics/strategy where needed. Ultimately its Bush’s laziness and Rove’s (and the other GOP managers) complacent incompetence that lost this. NOT the demoNcrats shrill, cowardly and undeniably stilted political strategy of robotically abusing and name calling Bush - whilst endlessly parotting the oldest do nothing mantras in the playbook about “time for a change”. Yes it worked - but only because Bush allowed it to by ‘political default’.

Neither party has any fresh ideas. This bollocks that the suddenly visible again feminazi Pelosi is now suddenly parroting about bipartisanship is nauseating hypocrisy. Bush genuinely tried this ploy back in 2001 and the scum only embraced what little they wanted to - they cared nothing for genuine bipartisanship back then. Pelosi is just cynically parroting a PR ploy.

The closeness of so many results, especially in the swing states can be ascribed to protest voting, but clever (by GOP types - and non left leaning independents) protest voting when little is at stake in the last two years of a two term president. The conservative demoNcrats who have just been elected in the swing states will be acutely aware of how far they can go ideologically without jepoardising their new found incumbency.

Hopefully the likes of Newt will provide the GOP with the intellectual and political filip needed to retain the WH and take back congress.

At least we can ALL take comfort from the fact that Georgia is now more than ever before firmly ensconced in the safe, competent hands of the GOP.

By CJ

November 8, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Democrats took back the House. Great. Now there’s work to do.

Markus @9:32,

Increasing the minimum wage grows the economy because it puts more money in the pockets of those who are most likely to spend it (research the phrase “marginal propensity to consume” or MPC). Low income families don’t have money to save. They spend every extra dollar they get. This spending reverberates throughout the economy, resulting in more demand, more jobs, etc. It’s a positive cycle from which we all benefit. This fact has been confirmed repeatedly in municipalities that have implemented minimum wages at local levels over the past couple of years. Despite their unfounded fears, the small biz owners you’re concerned about will be better off, and so will the rest of us.

Here’s a link from BusinessWeek where you can read more: http://www.businessweek.com/archives/2000/b3697086.arc.htm.

I’m contacting my new Congressman (as a result of redistricting, not the election) and asking him to vote to increase the minimum wage with two characteristics. First, to set have a wage that varies by locality ($7.00 in San Diego does not go as far as $7.00 in Atlanta). And second, to index the minimum wage to automatically change each year based upon the Consumer Price Index for that municipality. Let’s implement it and be done with it. The minimum wage works. We shouldn’t have to debate it every few years.

By MELO

November 8, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

Lest anyone forget, the Democrats are not in charge of the government and Donald Rumsfield has not been fired as someone suggested above. Nancy Pelosi is not a Prime Minister

R Cagle, i have news for u. When Pelosi says, ‘Mr President, lets work together’, those with brains like me understand that its political speak for’if yu dont have accountability in Iraq and fire people, you will be the one to go’. If u do not understand that Cagle R, you are having a hard time in Georgia as Lt governator!!!

By KA

November 8, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

Debbie, Shouldnt you be off somewhere on your knees blowing your husbands brother or best friend while he is off defending our nation? I mean with a mouth that big it must get put to use right?

By getalife

November 8, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

Day One: Put new rules in place to “break the link between lobbyists and legislation.”

This would be a great accomplishment in US politics.

This would stop business as usual in Washington.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

What’s all this hoopla about Bush now saying he wants “bipartisan” support? What the hell does he think he’s been doing since 9/11? Handing over airport security to Tom Daschle and federalizing it, handing over education reform to Ted “U-boat driver wannabe” Kennedy, handing over campaign finance reform to McCain & Feingold, and a host of other “niceness” to the other side. If I didn’t know any better, sans islamoterrorism fighting, a strong military, and tax cuts, I’d swear Bush was a Democrat. The left never acted like it was out of power, and the right never acted as if it ever really HAD power. So as far as I’m concerned, nothing will really change, for the next two years at least anyway. The good news is that America will get to see the hard left Pelosis and Screams and Schumers for what they really stand for, which is why Hillary is distancing herself from that neosocialist liberal platform like a muslim to pig.

By CJ

November 8, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

For anybody who might have been interested in reading the BusinessWeek article I linked to @10:57, I shouldn’t have put a period at the end of the link. If you click on the link, you’ll be taken to BusinessWeek’s error page. When you get there, remove the period from the end of the URL and then hit enter. You’ll should then able to see the article.

Sorry about that.

By Realist

November 8, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Markus, One of the best most dead on posts Ive ever seen here. Bush and the GOP had carte blanche and they blew it….now its just more of the same.

By @@

November 8, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

JP: Allow me to elaborate on my 10:16.

I was never supportive of the investigation of Clinton by the Republicans. Remember “wag the dog?” I would ask if that investigation may have taken Clinton’s eye off of terrorism, or were Clinton’s motives to take all eyes off of his scandal. I couldn’t say with certainty. All I know is something critical slipped through the cracks during the process.

Terrorism was left unattended which brings us to today’s threat. I’m all about the threat of Muslim extremists. It is real whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

I’d vote for a democrat with all their liberal agenda’s as long as they realize that there is a threat and address it with the same aggression that the terrorists do. If there was a Republican that failed to recognize the threat, I wouldn’t vote for them.

Investigations, if politically motivated, serve no purpose but to take attention off of what’s critical.

Have a good day. I guess I should return to the asylum where you’ve had me committed.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

The American people have spoken.

To save time and money for the country, W, Cheney, Rumsfeld,…. etc should resign so our country can move forward.

By Realist

November 8, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

To JP and others, I think you need to look at a political map. The country is still overwhelmingly red, not just the fine state of Georgia.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

CJ @10:57-

Increasing the minimum wage grows the economy because it puts more money in the pockets of those who are most likely to spend it.

All I am doing is reporting to you and your socialist ilk what will happen, especially amongst small biz owners, with an immediate jackup of the living…err excuse me, I mean minimum wage to $7 or more. You gave your pro-link for it, now here’s my anti-link against it, and keep in mind this one is about 10 years old:

http://www.house.gov/jec/cost-gov/regs/minimum/against/against.htm

In any event, I have spoken to the people who write those minimum wage payrolls checks, and they have spoken there intentions if/when the minimum wage gets jacked up, and there’s nothing your newly beloved democrat-controlled congress can do about it.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this

Tester and Webb have won the elections but there will be a recount. This will give the Dems a Senate majority and Reid will be majority leader.

By jackets fan

November 8, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

Markus,

It sounds like the only person who is distancing themselves, like a muslim from a pig, is you from Bush. Don’t be bitter man, it just isn’t Christian-like.

By White Jesus

November 8, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

Realist,

Political Map-governors

Its not that red..slight shift ..well..big shift

By Markus

November 8, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

TFTT-

You have spoken pretty much what I said at 9:32, but better as usual.

Hats off…

By CJ

November 8, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

Realist @11:27 “I think you need to look at a political map. The country is still overwhelmingly red, not just the fine state of Georgia.

Realist, if you have 100 people living on one acre and all 100 vote blue, then one acre on your political map is blue. If you have 10 persons living on 10 acres voting red, then you have 10 acres painted red on your map.

Appropriately, it’s one man, one vote — not one acre, one vote. You can play with crayons all day long, but you can’t change facts.

By J Smith

November 8, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

These wins for the Democrats was the perfect example of america’s electorial sysem at its finest. America spoke. Now some real work can be done to get things moving in the right direction. Disappointed that voters in Geogia still put too much faith into the Bush administration and went even more Republican. How much more corruption and incompetence does the Georgia GOP need to see done before they vote differently.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

KA: Debbie, Shouldnt you be off somewhere on your knees blowing your husbands brother or best friend while he is off defending our nation? I mean with a mouth that big it must get put to use right?

Ohh boo hooo; don’t feel sad KA cause your tin soldier’s team lost, I’m happy as….. I’m as happy as……oh heck I don’t know!!! I’m as happy as your mother was when that german shepherd beat half the men in the neighborhood under the fence and became your father!!! Woof!!!

By time for the truth

November 8, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

Cheers Markus

I take NO pleasure in having to post any of it. Your comments are equally pragmatic and incisive. But its only two years and the lefty demoNcrats might well get carried away and over reach. Which would certainly cost them dear in 08.

The game is unfolding - as they are now claiming the senate - before even the initial counting is finished, with the votes so close.

Its a black day for America - but maybe Bush can soften the impact a bit by politically outwitting them in some areas and using his veto.

By JK

November 8, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

The margins by which Dems took Senate seats in Virginia and Montana are actually larger than the margin by which Bush [allegedly] beat Gore in 2000, aren’t they? If this is the case, then the Republicans should do now what they did six years ago, and scream: “Stop counting the votes! We don’t need no stinking re-count!” Don’t you think the Supreme Court would agree now, just as they did then? I mean, re-counts are for whiny losers… that’s what y’all said, right?

By Markus

November 8, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

Hey Jackets Fan-

(I’m one of them too!)

It sounds like the only person who is distancing themselves, like a muslim from a pig, is you from Bush. Don’t be bitter man, it just isn’t Christian-like.

Look up the definition of “disappointment” and then look up the definition of the word “distance.” Then look at what I’ve posted here, specifically at 9:32, and tell me if I have more “disappointment” or “distance” with Bush & Co. right now. And I’ve posted for months now my problems with Bush & Co. and swaying from their core constituency, along with scandals, powerhunger, and a media that hates them all notwithstanding.

The ball’s in your court, sport jacket.

By Dusty

November 8, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

OK Liberals,

Congratulations on your political wins. You will now have a chance to prove that you were the power behind the throne that never got a chance.

Well, this may be your chance. Show that you can work together and make “things” better, cause it is the last half of show’an’tell time. You told us you knew better. Now show us. America is watching.

By CJ

November 8, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

You can’t help yourself Markus. I support raising the minimum wage because the evidence shows that it works. Your conclusion: I’m a member of the “socialist ilk”. I think, if anything, this election is showing that people are starting to see through this kind of crap.

I’ll take your word for it when you say that you’ve spoken with small business owners who plan to lay people off if and when the minimum wage is increased. It’s also true that, if they decide to do that, there’s nothing the democratically-controlled congress can do about it. If they’re anything like you, your friends will probably have layoffs out of spite. However, that would be short-sighted. Employers are typically able to absorb extra costs associated with such an increase because of less turnover, which leads to lower recruiting costs and lower training costs. Plus, as I said, they’ll have more business.

Again, the overwhelming evidence is that your small biz friends are more likely to be hiring employees when business picks up as a result of the positive effects of a properly established minimum wage.

You provided a link from the 90’s, I provided a link from 2000. Here’s an Economic Policy Institute link from last month: http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/issueguidesminwageminwagefaq

Scroll down in this link to the question: “Does the minimum wage cause job loss?”

I’m sure you can find a link to counter this one, just as I’m sure that you can link to one of the two-percent of scientists who don’t think global warming is caused by pollution. But as I told Realist, facts are facts.

By Brian Curtis

November 8, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Realist: You need to look at a population map. The red areas are where the LAND is, but the blue spots are where the PEOPLE are.

Sure would be nice to think that Bush could “outwit” anybody, wouldn’t it? Cling to that faint hope, neocons!

Oh, and Andy? You’ve LOST.

Huge Smirk

By Markus

November 8, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

CJ @ 11:39:

Appropriately, it’s one man, one vote — not one acre, one vote. You can play with crayons all day long, but you can’t change facts.

You need to go back and read a little on why we have the Electoral College and not the popular vote in a presidency. Congressional elections used to be for local issues, but now they seem to reflect national elections, and to the genious Republican who still thought last night’s elections was about “local” issues, I hope his @ss is fired.

Regarding one man one vote, that’s true. But our Founding Fathers knew the dangers of a pure democracy where 100 people in a New York City block could out-represent 10 people on farms in rural New York. Can you say taxation without representation? Can you say Mob Rule? That’s a pure democracy, and that’s exactly what you people on the left traditionally stand against. The “little guy” doesn’t get his say, but in this case since that “little guy” in the Red states traditionally doesn’t go your way, you’re against him and stand for the mob rule of the popular vote. Keep in mind I’m only talking about presidential elections.

I sure am glad you liberals have your priorities straight.

By Happy days are here again!

November 8, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

DEMS: “WE’VE WON THE SENATE”…DEMS CONTROL HOUSE….COUNTRY DEMANDS CHANGE IN IRAQ.

By time for the truth

November 8, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

Presumably maggot brain, feminazi JK, rednekkks NAMBLA, STUPID DICK, moron rod and the rest of the far leftists on here fully respect the demoNcrat defeat in CT perpetrated by LIEberman.

The far left “official demoNcrat” candidate, got hammered. That quite comforting fact tells us a great deal about the cowardly cut and run far left and their electability in liberal YanKKKee land.

By Curious Observer

November 8, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

This election was the start of a long-term trend that will see the Republican Party as essentially a replacement for the Southern Democrats of old. Increasingly, the South is becoming the bastion of Republicanism, while the dominance of Republicans in the Midwest and parts of the West is steadily eroding. The South will again become isolated from the rest of the country. And that will be good for America.

Another bit of good news from this election is the emergence of new moderate and conservative Democrats who will serve to mitigate some of the party’s extremism on the left. That will make the party increasingly acceptable to the conservative wing and the independents.

Don’t expect a tidal wave of legislative change in Congress. The next two years are likely to be static, as the parties prepare for the 2008 election, each jockeying for position. Now, what will not happen is the customary rubber-stamping of budgets and proposals from the executive branch—no extension of tax cuts for the wealthy, no push to privatize Social Security, and no approval of legislative measures to restrict the freedoms of Americans in the name of homeland security. And at long last, this administration will receive legislative oversight.

One can only hope that somewhere on Capitol Hill there’s a broom closet where the useless Denny Hastert can reestablish his do-nothing shop. American voters have fired him and his cronies from his dictatorship, and he needs to recognize it.

By Producer

November 8, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

Congratulations Dems. Go ahead and gloat and enjoy your day. If the shoe were on the other foor, I sure would! I’m curious as to see what will happen in the next two years. Hopefully some meaningful things will happen. I read somewhere this morning that because of the election, Hillary would be damaged in some way. I didn’t even bother reading it. I think she is the huge winner! You can “good-bye” to Allen as a GOP rival now and you can also say goodbye to Kerry, too! That leaves Guiliani and Romney to follow McCain. Rivals for Hillary? Not Obama…yet. Edwards? Biden? Feingold? Gore? Possibly, if he wants another shot! She looks like she’s at the top of the Dem heap! Hopefully we Repubs will come up with someone to counter her.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

It’s fitting that the red states are full of lizards, coyotes, and dirt.

By A L-I-B-E-R-T-A-R-I-A-N

November 8, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

Just to remind everyone I’m a L-I-B-E-R-T-A-R-I-A-N. No, really.

If I ever said I was a Republickan I was just kidding. Get it?

Them Republickins sure went down. Me? I’m a L-I-B-E-R-T-A-R-I-A-N. Got it?

By Markus

November 8, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

CJ-

I’ll take your word for it when you say that you’ve spoken with small business owners who plan to lay people off if and when the minimum wage is increased.

I never said that. I said “holiday hiring” help will be reduced. That’s not laying off when you don’t hire them in the first place. Don’t be such an emotional liberal about that which you can’t control with a judicial or legislative process.

I’m sure you can find a link to counter this one, just as I’m sure that you can link to one of the two-percent of scientists who don’t think global warming is caused by pollution. But as I told Realist, facts are facts.

And just as I said, I’m only reporting what I’ve been told. You can give me links about the alleged benefits of a minimum wage increase (while conveniently ignoring that those who primarily work under it are under 30, work part time, don’t rely on it as primary income, and don’t do big ticket purchases) until hell freezes over, and it won’t change the fact what I’ve been told:

Raise the minimum wage on me [biz owner] and I’ll reduce hiring and find alternative methods of increasing the demand of productivity through non-labor venues.

Again, that’s not me talking. I’m not a biz owner. You socialist liberals need to think long and hard about what you want and the consequences accordingly. The short-sighted, fix-it-now syndrome of you liberals has never been a long term success in anything, from increasing education spending and taxpayer plundering to Katrina evac rescuing with federal dollars and $2,000 debit cards.

By Reposts

November 8, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

Some excellent reposts here for you-

By time for the truth October 31, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

Question for all the demoNcrats What will you all do next week if you lose the election and dont take back congress and the liberal run polls all show that either the polls were wrong, there was a liberal bias in the sampling etc? WILL YOU TAKE YOUR LATEST DEFEAT GRACEFULLY AND STOICALLY? …a cunning trick question of course — liberals will never ever do that I’m betting that if you lose (i.e. don’t win congress) you default to the despicable cheating that AlBore tried and FAILED WITH because the actual votes by the people were against him — albeit narrowly!!

And here is another repost for you -

Republicans may lose control of the U.S. House, as pundits are predicting. If so, I’ll be shocked. In 17 of 20 open GOP seats, President Bush pulled 61 percent. A dozen of those are considered possible Democratic pick-ups. The Dems need 15. Georgia is unusual, but the only two competitive congressional races here are held by Democrats — Jim Marshall in Macon in the 8th and John Barrow of Savannah in the 12th. A win by Republicans in either would be a major upset. Prediction: Democrats gain 8 nationally, within the range predicted by Karl Rove. For most disgruntled Republicans, a House led by California’s Nancy Pelosi is no option.

Jim Wooten, posted sometime last week.

I guess he is “shocked.” Prediction: Dems gain 8 nationally? A little off there, Jim

By CJ

November 8, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

Markus @12:18

To answer your two questions — I can say “Mob Rule”, and I can say “taxation without representation”.

If I understand you correctly, those who live in the cities are members of a “mob” and those who own farms are the “little guy”. So, if you live in a big city, your vote should count less than if you live in the suburbs or rural areas.

Somehow, I’m not surprised by this analysis. Dumbfounded, but not surprised.

By CJ

November 8, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Markus — you plutocrats need to think long and hard about what you want and the consequences accordingly.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

Ah yes, I see our resident TiVo liberal post capturer for future reference popped up again. Hey clown, you must have one HELL of a post library from cons here. Post some of mine that you’ve saved for future reference you no-life freak!

By Van

November 8, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Boy, has it been busy today.

It seems the democrats could not win back as many seats in both houses as the thought they could. The pundits were right - a narrow victory for the House and not as much movement in the Senate.

Having a mixed Congress might be good for the nation. I do think we might see a few more vetos out of the White House - just have to wait and see.

I hope Socialists Pelosi and her merry band of Progressive Caucus pinkos have a good time. I think you will see many members of the caucus being appointed to Committee leadership positions - Will be interesting to watch her choices.

By LMAO

November 8, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

RUMSFIELD QUITS

TESTER WINS MONTANA

By time for the truth

November 8, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

RUMSFELD IS RESIGNING

Reports say he’s stepping down … breaking news - Bush will likely confirm this at 1pm.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Rumsfeld resigns.

By Aquagirl

November 8, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

The good news continues: Looks like Rumsfeld is out.

Thank the non-GOP God.

By ART

November 8, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

The great moderate majority in this country has spoken. Both parties better heed these results. Maybe next time both parties will be shown the door. Joe Lieberman showed us how that gets done.

By JK

November 8, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Rummy stepping down? WHY? Isn’t he doing a heckuva job?

By Markus

November 8, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

CJ-

“If I understand you correctly, those who live in the cities are members of a “mob” and those who own farms are the “little guy”.”

Not at all. Only if the “mob” wants to lynch the “little guy” for what the “little guy” stands for. Does that spell it out any more clear for you, or do I need to cough up some posts here by your fellow leftist breatheren?

So, if you live in a big city, your vote should count less than if you live in the suburbs or rural areas.

Your/my vote still counts in a big city. One man one vote, remember what you said? Do you not believe that now? We are really talking about the bigger picture here, say California’s votes vs. those of Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, and Oklahoma for example. California as a whole one state could outvote and outrepresent four other states based on population alone. Now in a traditional liberal utopia, you people on the left would be rushing to the aid of these smaller states. But, as stated earlier which you didn’t refute, since those smaller states don’t go your way, you are against them having their fair share of the pie, so to speak. Fortunately, our Founding Fathers saw that train wreck of mob rule coming early, and headed it off at the pass.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

The Pope was fooled by this election. The Pope thought the redneck contagion had swept the nation, and that our country was beyond hope.

Thankfully, the Pope was proven wrong, except for the stumpboke South. The rest of the nation shook off the virus of peckerwood politics.

Of course, the south is contaminated beyond all repair. The rest of the nation should allow your secession, and build a wall at the Mason-Dixon line to keep the trash out.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

Van,

We took the House and the Senate. The gop are the minority where they belong.

Rumsfeld is gone.

W and Cheney should resign in disgrace.

They are failures like your party.

Losers.

By Van

November 8, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

Nancy Pelosi promised: “Democrats intend to lead the most honest, the most open and the most ethical Congress in history.”

Isn’t that what Bill Cliton promised in 92?

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

maybe Bush can soften the impact a bit by politically outwitting them in some areas and using his veto

ROFLMAO!!!!

By Markus

November 8, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this

CJ-

Markus — you plutocrats need to think long and hard about what you want and the consequences accordingly.

Being a “plutocrat” and one who is for minimum government life interference and low taxation is kind of a contradictory statement, don’t you think?

By harold

November 8, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

as if today’s news for america wasn’t good enough already, now discovery has signed basso!

By CJ

November 8, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

No I don’t think. You’re a plutocrat. Look the word up if you don’t know what it means.

By MELO

November 8, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

Bush played right away BALL RUMMIE IS GONE, TOASTED.FORGET ABOUT RESIGNING**

R Craig are u listening?!!!!!!!

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

This is too funny!!! Read below:

Dead woman wins county commissioner’s race S.D. candidate gets 100 votes; official says voters knew she was deceased

PIERRE, S.D. - A woman who died two months ago won a county commissioner’s race in Jerauld County on Tuesday. Democrat Marie Steichen, of Woonsocket, got 100 votes, defeating incumbent Republican Merlin Feistner, of Woonsocket, who had 64 votes. Jerauld County Auditor Cindy Peterson said she believes the county board will have to meet to appoint a replacement for Steichen. Peterson said she’ll check with the state’s attorney to be sure that’s the process. Peterson said voters knew Steichen had died. “They just had a chance to make a change, and we respect their opinion.”

This is too funny for words!!!

By harold

November 8, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

BUSH IS ADMITTING LIVE THAT HE LIED! AGAIN!!!

WHAT A LIAR!

“RUMSFELD IS STAYING ON”

IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

BUSH LIED! BUSH LIED! AGAIN!

By getalife

November 8, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

W spewing about honesty and ethics is an outrage.

W and Cheney should resign in disgrace.

Pelosi for President.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this

CJ-

A plutocrat is a government for the rich by the rich the last time I checked (as if Pelosi, Kerry, Soros, and other Democrats are freaking poor or something).

Now, if “we” on the right are against high taxes, against government intrusion into private earning finances like socialist security, and all around against the plundering of the government to steal from the successful and reward the underachieves, I’d sure as hell like to know where you get off on validating us as plutocrats. Unless of course, my definition is wrong as you challenged… and I’m not “rich.”

By harold

November 8, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

oh, now bush says he didnt lie because he hadnt found rumsfeld’s repalcemnet yet, so that means he didnt know rumsfeld was quitting yet.

Uh, yeah.

why would he look for a replacement if he didnt know rumsfeld was quitting?

LIAR LIAR PAINTS ON FIRE

By Aquagirl

November 8, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

Boy, judging from his current press conference, the Prez is really out there.

Denying that Rumsfeld’s dismissal has anything to do with politics is just insane. Like he coincidentally decided to fire him today.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

Pelosi has about the same chance at being president as Hitllary. Oh now there would be a fun campaign RAT race in 2012.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this

Just baiting you macaca.

Don’t you work?

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

Rumsfeld gone??!!! Wow, I’ll say one thing about Dubya, he knows when to hold em and knows when to kick their a## to the curb!! Classic!

By MELO

November 8, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

Where is Jimblaw and philosopher today and the rest of the Right wing nutcrackers?

Under Bush’s ROCK i suppose.

Philosopher my foot.Philosophise then about these DEMS WHO ARE MAKING Bush shake in his boots. See the press conference. Bush has his blood vessels visibly elevated on his face. Poor Stutter, Dumb Prez!! What has happened to that Capital u promised to be spending after u stole the election last time. AND CARL ROGUE FIZZLES 4 SURE!

By jbmlaw

November 8, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Dear CJ @ 10:57 and various other times, I disagree with your economics. There simply is no credible argument for minimum wage. The minimum wage has two effects: (1) raising unemployment for inner city males, and (2) creating a floor for unionized labor, preventing underbidding, thus inflating costs for all. Unfortunately, the Leftist tradition is to try to minimize the adverse effect of increased unemployment for inner city males by creating WPA-style phony government jobs. Free market serves all, not just those who know better for the great unwashed.

And for others who posted thoughts questioning residual support, I still support President Bush and the war against terrorists, in Iraq or wherever that goes. And I still believe the new Congress, wishing to prove it will protect Americans, will follow wherever Bush leads. They will not have sufficient courage to do otherwise.

By PrayNov7th

November 8, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Well now we truly know what type of President we have. He only makes the necessary changes, when his hand has been forced.

Way to Go Mr. President, you should have removed Rumsfeld two years ago.

I think we are going to see a lot of changes on the current administrations techniques in the next 3 - 6 months. We might just become a better and stronger, united country. The change made yesterday has already caused a sea of Excellent changes. See Yah Rumsfeld…….

By JK

November 8, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

Nancy Pelosi promised: “Democrats intend to lead the most honest, the most open and the most ethical Congress in history.” Isn’t that what Bill Cliton promised in 92?

Van, isn’t that what Newt Gingrich and his posse promised in ‘94? That little breech of contract y’all kept sneering at apparently DOES matter afterall, huh? (I mean, not here in Georgia, but to people who can actually read and do math!) Who knew?

By Markus

November 8, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

Killing unused vacation time, getmolife, killing unused vacation time. Damn it feels good to sit around doing nothing and still get paid for it. Now I know what it feels like to be a democrat.

By White Jesus

November 8, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

ol Flip-flop Bush and his Bushies…its hilarious to see Fox News rip on him now…turncoats everywhere..seams have broken!

By Markus

November 8, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this

Latest VA senate numbers:

Webb - 1,169,285

Allen - 1,162,577

If republicans wanted to be real aholes like the democrats have been for six years, they’d challenge that figure and file lawsuits all over the place for recount after recount after recount and dig up all kinds of stories on election snafus.

Oh, but we’re talking about republicans conceding, not democrats losing. My bad.

By Dusty

November 8, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

Ah Curious Observer, How nice of you in your political win to feel it necessary to put down the South. Well, what do you expect?

Southerners and Georgians in particular have never once thought of running from a problem, much less an enemy. Cut-n-run does not come with Southern accents. It is a term foreign to us.

So, in electing a Republican governor with a good record, we also expressed our support for our Commander-in-Chief and the troops who are fighting for us. There is no maybe about that. From Texas to the Mason Dixon line, Southerners will never support cringing before the enemy. Our troops don’t and we don’t either.

So let the snide remarks continue. Let Rednecks pour out his self manufactured bile. It is ho-hum stuff for Southerners who KNOW where they stand. We are for the country and we don’t make any bones about it.

By PrayNov7th

November 8, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

I bet Condi is happy to see Rumsfeld gone. However, I would like to see Condi, Rove and the rest of that camp GOOOOOONNNNNNNEEEEEEE.

If you are going to be President, choose friends who will give you the BEST ADVICE.

By CJ

November 8, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

As I said to Markus, the overwhelming evidence does not support your conclusions: “raising unemployment for inner city males” and “inflating costs” (at least not the kind of inflation that you would have us believe).

Fortunately, there is empirical evidence to support my assertions, so we don’t have to rely on misinformation spread by you and your fellow plutocrat, Markus.

FYI, President Bush just said in his news conference that he’s willing to work with Congress to raise the minimum wage. Outstanding.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

The Dems won the Senate macaca.

It is a beautiful day in America.

By Reposts

November 8, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

No gloating today. Satisfaction? You bet.

Other than Ford losing, it was a perfect night. I have known Ford for about 10 years. I’ve talked to him at every home Tennessee football game this year, including about 20 minutes at this past Saturday’s game. I spent 3 hours riding in a car with him from Nashville to east Tennessee 5 years ago. He’s the real deal. Those on the right here can say what they want about him, but you will be dealing with him in Washington one day. Look how close he came in a SOLID republican state such as Tennessee, for a spot of the Majority Leaders seat, no less.

Markus, in your 9:32 post, you state Ford may be a democrat, but he is no liberal. Not according to the TV ads from the RNC every 5 minutes for the past 3 weeks. They all stated he would be the MOST liberal if elected. Wanted to give morning after pills to “school girls.” (I’m not kidding, that’s what it said).

And you said this @10:36: Pelosi & Co. are going to investigate Halliburton and the CIA now? THAT should be interesting since both were holdovers from the Clintoon administration. Haliburton a holdover from the Clinton Admin? Yes, I know they were used in the past by Clinton, but not anywhere close ($$$) to what they are doing now. You make it sound like Clinton was who sent them to Iraq. Please, don’t insult our intelligence.

And Van

It seems the democrats could not win back as many seats in both houses as the thought they could. The pundits were right - a narrow victory for the House and not as much movement in the Senate

A narrow victory in the House? Not as much movement in the Senate? Dude, which election results are you talking about? You need to check the news and see what happened last night.

And @@ - Investigations at this critical time may prove to be dangerous to our survival as a nation.

That didn’t matter to the republicans when they HOUNDED Clinton. They didn’t give a flip about what it was doing to our country. They were only concerned with one thing - how it would hurt him and his wife politically and how it would help them. All with taxpayer money, may I add. For you to post the above statement is really funny.

When W said a week ago that he was keeping Rumsfeld for the next two years, that is when I actually believed the democrats had a chance. That was a stupid thing to say publicly. It sealed the R’s fate. And now Rummy is gone today. What does that show about how smart the man is?

One last thing.

Dusty,

all of the exit polls say this was a reflection of how things are going in Iraq. That people had had enough and wanted change regarding Iraq. So these people, in your earlier stated views, don’t support the troops if they don’t agree with the President’s policy in Iraq. In turn, you say that if they don’t support the policy, they can’t possibly support the troops, thus they are unpatriotic and are troop bashing.

So are all of these voters unpatriotic? Do they all hate the troops and this country? Or is it like Tom Delay said, “You can support the troops without supporting the president.” I guess what I’m asking is, will you finally answer the question? Can you support the troops without supporting the President?

Oh, and guess what Dusty. Trent Lott won yesterday (65% - 35%). He was running for reelection! He’s still in politics!

Now, please answer the quesion.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

CJ-

FYI, President Bush just said in his news conference that he’s willing to work with Congress to raise the minimum wage. Outstanding.

$7.50/hr is too much for a low-skilled, part time job. What’s next on the agenda for you socialist liberals? Why the hell not $10/hr then? $25/hr? how about forcing these small biz owners to pay healthcare to these people too? Hell money grows on the trees for you people, and then you think you can just tax the whopping 10% of US taxpayers conceded as being “rich” to pay for all of your feel good neoStalinist policies. Oh wait, you liberals never talk to the real people on the receiving end of your shaft… just those on the receiving end of your “nobole generousity” of other people’s money.

…misinformation spread by you and your fellow plutocrat, Markus.

You never responded to my answer to you on that plutocrat comment. Why not?

By White Jesus

November 8, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

Crusty,

The South has always been for this country…that whole Civil War thing was a myth..much like slavery and the Native American genocide.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

What a great day!

I replaced my LSU tiger flag with the American flag.

A great victory for the American people!

By getalife

November 8, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

What a great day!

I replaced my LSU tiger flag with the American flag.

A great victory for the American people!

By RW (the oravaginal)

November 8, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

What does it all mean? It could mean that this is a last gasp of a nation drowning in war, caught in a furious landslide toward an irrevocable cataclysm of tectonic sea change in the middle east which will see the rise of the Shia Crescent and redraw the maps and ostracize us from any access to the oil we just tried to steal.

How many of us knew that Britain had drawn the maps of Iraq to the detriment of the Shia Majority after WW1?

Nobody knew. We had no idea that the Shia were being persecuted institutionally and with international co-operation and benediction.

Do you really believe that the Shia will now be our friends and disarm and then trust the Sunni who had been their evil slavemasters for nearly 100 years?

No, Baker’s report will be a bombshell, and Bush, who just lied through another press conference, will cut and run, and be glad that he still can.

Bush has not said one word of truth about any issue since 911. Fact, Jack.

I demand the resignation of George W Bush effective noon tomorrow. Ditto Cheney. Lets let Speaker Hastert run things for a while…………..D’OH!

By Chazman

November 8, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

Replace Repost with Chazman….

Now Dusty, answer the question.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

Redrool.. err Reposts-

Markus, in your 9:32 post, you state Ford may be a democrat, but he is no liberal. Not according to the TV ads from the RNC every 5 minutes for the past 3 weeks.

I’m not responsible for what the RNC says anymore than you (I assume) are not responsible for the Fulton County Democratic leaders like Andie Young and Johnny Lewis insinuating that black people’s lives depended on keeping out Republicans. Or that old people will be pushed down stairs in wheelchairs if Republicans win, or that black churches will burn, or that black men will be dragged behind pickup trucks, … Spare me the political hyperbole.

Yes, I know they [Halliburton, CIA] were used in the past by Clinton, but not anywhere close ($$$) to what they are doing now. You make it sound like Clinton was who sent them to Iraq. Please, don’t insult our intelligence.

If Halliburton was really guilty of something, they’d have been hanged a long time ago. But if you want to p** away more taxpayer dollars in endless investigations, go right ahead.

As I stated early on here, what the hell goes on in Washington really doesn’t affect my private life. Why? Because I don’t rely on the government for anything. Now go smoke that reality cigarette, snookums.

By Chazman

November 8, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I was at the LSU/Tenn game Saturday night. A very, very exiting game to watch live. You’all deserved the win. Really whipped our butts. It would have been a theft if we had pulled it out, but I wished we had. Guess it was payback for last year……..

By Markus

November 8, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Well the election results from last night speak of one thing that shut the democrats the hell up about:

Electronic voting machines work, and there is no danger of a “stolen” election. All those RAT lawyers are already back in their cozy institutions of liberal indoctrination. Am I to assume that all future elections will now result in such post-election calm? I suppose it depends on which party affiliate wins.

By Buy Danish

November 8, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

CJ,

Regarding your Utopian view of the minimum wage, please share that empirical evidence of yours.

Here’s some of mine:

Where most economists agree is that the higher minimum wage does not do much to relieve poverty. That is partly because many poor people would not gain (since they do not work); partly because some of the costs of higher minimum wages are shifted onto poor consumers; but mainly because many minimum-wage workers are not poor. Only 5% of the workforce—some 6.6m people—will gain directly from a rise in the minimum wage, and 30% of those are teenagers, many from families that are not poor.

More feel-good Socialist economics that causes more harm than good - including the ripple effect of wage inflation.

Abercrombie may be a good stock buy as teenagers earn more money to spend at the mall. Brilliant.

By Chazman

November 8, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

Snookums? Getting a little personal, aren’t we. I must say I have never been called Snookums by another man. Ever.

By Dusty

November 8, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

Reposts aka Chazman aka various & sundry other “ids”,

I hope and pray all Americans support the troops.

I hope our enemies realize that ALL Americans support the troops.

Do you have any thoughts as to why al-Jazeera, voice for terrorist information, is celebrating Democratic wins?

PS: Trent Lott is not from my state. I only vote where I am a registered voter. That’s Georgia.

By m

November 8, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

Spazman-

Snookums? Getting a little personal, aren’t we. I must say I have never been called Snookums by another man. Ever.

Are you “Repost” or not? I can’t keep up with all these aliases you liberals use.

By Chazman

November 8, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I am also like you. I also hope and pray all Americans support our troops. What we don’t agree on is if you don’t support Bush’s Iraq policy 100%, then you don’t support the troops. Why is that hard for you to understand, or admit? When you challange someone’s patriotism, what kind of response do you expect. It’s an arrogant thing to do and I think is an example of why the republicans lost. Their arrogance. And the Presidents arrogance.

As for Lott, I know he is not from your state. Just letting you know you were wrong in your ealier posts. Seeing how you hate to admit mistakes and all.

By Curious Observer

November 8, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

So Dusty assumes that I am anti-American for harboring my views. Where was she when I was returning from the Far East and being called a baby-killer and other names? And exactly how many years of military service does she have? Maybe she can show me her marksman badges and combat decorations.

My political views have been formed by my experience, and I refuse to allow some arm-chair patriot to challenge my right to express them. The South is full of these faux patriots. They’re big on talk, but very short on action.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

Chazman-

When you challange someone’s patriotism, what kind of response do you expect.

That’s where you leftists get it wrong. You think it’s perfectly ok to challenge a position (as do I), but then when we challenge your position on said position, we are challenging your patriotism.

We saw that mentality more recently in Kerry and Murtha, and more distantly in Max Cleland when he got tossed four years ago.

In short, you are free to say whatever you want to say, just like the Dixie Chicks. In long, don’t expect that you are above criticism for your own thoughts. That is arrogance. You say something, don’t expect it to be rebutted and challenged. It’s nothing more than t** for tat, and you got the last word in the vote. Simple as that.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

Day one of this victory bring us accountabilty for Rumsfeld.

Change in the right direction.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

Chazman,

I was a Dawg fan but these cajuns down here party better.

It was a great game.

By Dusty

November 8, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Chazman,

I have always supported the troops and their Commander-in-chief. They are fighting for our country.

I also vote in free elections for the officials I would like to run this country. If I don’t like the way they do it, I vote for someone else next time. Why don’t you try that method instead of constantly complaining?

ANSWER MY QUESTION! Why is al-Jazeera, terrorist voice, celebrating Democratic wins in the USA???

By Dusty

November 8, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

White Jesus.

I don’t respond to racists.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Curious Observer-

The South is full of these faux patriots. They’re big on talk, but very short on action.

I’m not sure what you mean by that, but if this nation was run over by islamic terrorists rampaging and pillaging neighborhoods, I would rather have a gun-totin’ redneck behind my back than a blue-state artsy fartsy limpwristed “give peace a chance” liberal from San Freaksicko.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

I just cuaght a snippet or two of Bush’s press conference - I heard one of the reporters ask him about “the thumpin’ you got at the rodeo yesterday” and asking him about why he was out of touch with the electorate.

Dumbya is the lamest of lame ducks, watch the press hammer the worthless silly bastard for the next 26 months.

Pappy told us “read my lips, no new taxes.” And he lied.

Dumbya told us, what, two weeks ago that Rummy was his Sec of Defense to the end. Unless Dumbya resigns before Rummy’s last day, he’s a gawddamn liar too.

By RW (the oravaginal)

November 8, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

I think Nancy Pelosi is going to be a great leader.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

We do not listen al-Jazeera or the gop.

Are you a terrorist?

Why do you listen al-Jazeera?

Traitor.

By NO Peace Between Dummycrats and Neoscum

November 8, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

No peace, I demand a war of extermination between neoscum and dummycrats. Both are worthless and corrupt, just in different ways. NO PEACE, Ever!

By RW (the oravaginal)

November 8, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Maria Sharapova is playing right now and what a superstar she is!

I love her.

By Dusty

November 8, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Curious Observer,

I never said you were anti-American, You are Anti-Southern. Why, I don’t know since Southerners are brave, smart, congenial, polite and most Yankees seem to be trying to join us.

Also we have some of the largest military installations in the country which we support with all our hearts.

Congratulations on your military record. Southerners support our troops and our veterans. You,too. You just need an “attitude adjustment” about the South.

By GodHatesTrash

November 8, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

The southron redneck decided the fate of two Repukes last night - Senator-elect Corder from TN benefitted from the Klan vote against Ford, and poor Senator Macacawitz lost the Confederate vote when the rednecks found out his mother was Jewish.

Secretary Webb thanks you for your stupidity, fear and anti-semitism, you worthless clowns.

By Advisor

November 8, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

Dumbya is a lying c******** and a butt boy.

By CJ

November 8, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish @2:44 — your link is not as conclusive as the excerpt you cherry-picked. Here’s a cherry-picked excerpt of my own from your article:

“Mr Neumark, perhaps the leading sceptic about the minimum wage, has published several papers arguing that employers spend less on training their workers as their labour costs rise; that more students drop out of school, lured by fatter pay-packets; and that workers in their late twenties earn less if they were exposed to high minimum wages as teenagers. Other studies, however, do not find this.

Here’s another cherry-picked excerpt for you:

“a better tool exists for helping the working poor: the earned-income tax credit (EITC).” Good stuff.

BD, a higher minimum wage is intended to directly benefit working people (regardless of age) — not unemployed persons that your excerpt addresses. Also, your excerpt refers to direct benefits to those who are currently earning minimum wage (70 percent of whom are NOT teenagers, according to your link). The indirect benefits to the rest of us are real and significant.

As far as the empirical evidence you requested, see the links in my earlier posts. Also, read your own article which goes on to say that over 650 economists, including five Nobel prizewinners, published a letter advocating an increase in the minimum wage.

Let me spell it out for you. SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

Yesterday, the people of the United States repudiated the stupidity and malfeasance of the Chickenhawk-in-Chief.

The people of the Confederate States, however, still love him, and think this arrogant derelict drunken chimp is their god.

By Ah Break Wind

November 8, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

al-Jazeera is more accurate and truthful than the c** news network, or the Faux News Nitwits. Trust me on this, Americans are amoung the most stupid people on earth, and are so easily led that a p** ant county of seven million jews dictates american foreign policy, while extracting 10 billion dollars per year in tax dollars, and every advanced weapon system the idiot americans can make. The fools truely think they are free and wealth when in reality they are the world biggest debtors, and slaves to Izrael and the jesus freaks in the repuke ranks.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

Dusty-

“ANSWER MY QUESTION! Why is al-Jazeera, terrorist voice, celebrating Democratic wins in the USA???”

You are wasting your time. The libs won’t answer it. But it’s more than anti-Americans being joyful, it’s Israel and even some around the world with their heads out of their @sses being “worried” about islamofascism and terrorism. But, this nation deserves what it elects.

http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2006/11/08/ap3155690.html

Yeah they had better be worried:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061108/D8L8SCSG0.html

…their Jewish descendants here including the new House speaker helped do it. Unbelievable.

There’s an old Aesop’s Fable that reminds me of this:

An Eagle sat on a lofty rock, watching the movements of a hare whom he sought to make his prey. An archer, who saw the Eagle from a place of concealment, took an accurate aim and wounded him mortally. The Eagle gave one look at the arrow that had entered his heart and saw in that single glance that its feathers had been furnished by himself. “It is a double grief to me,” he exclaimed, “that I should perish by an arrow feathered from my own wings.

By akbar

November 8, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

in past wars, the sons of the american rulers served in combat zones, for instance there was a roosevelt on Omaha beach on day one. why are there no buses, cheny’s, wolfowizes, pearls, libbies, rumsfelds dying in Iraq? because the neoscums are cowards who are willing to waste lives of goyim, but not of their own precious blood. F*** the neoscum and all their families, forever.

By White Jesus

November 8, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this

Crusty, No you just responded..you can never answer the questions..

Chazman,

I’m a Razorback alum, and we are hyped about this weekends game against you all. It’s gonna be a huge Saturday!

By Dusty

November 8, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

If I read your posts, why not read al-Jazeera? Both are propaganda.

By Political Deckhead

November 8, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

Impeach Bush.

Exile Cheney.

They dont deserve this great country.

They have excluded themselves from citizenship by being fascists.

I am making a citizen’s excommunication of Bush and Cheney.

Let them go to Mexico.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

CJ-

We are all spinning our wheels on the minimum wage issue. I agree it needs to be raised, but not at the levels you leftists want to a “livable” wage. Finally, you can spew your links all day long. As stated, I have spoken to those who write the paychecks in a few small businesses (and write the checks for those payroll taxes accordingly), and I know how many of them will react to a substantiative increase in the minimum wage. I wonder how many Democrats have and do?

By Political Deckhead

November 8, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this

I think Bush will go down as our worst president. In fact, he’s certain to go down as a poster child emblematic stereotype for the peter principle.

By Buy Danish

November 8, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this

akbar,

They’re busy fighting your Al Qaeda cousins.

It would be a good time to free Scooter Libby. He’s served his purpose for the Dems - unless they think by holding him hostage they can get some of their demands met.

By CJ

November 8, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

That was a great fable Markus. It reminds me of the fact that we invaded Iraq, in part, because they dropped WMDs on the Kurds using military helicopters that we sold them. It reminds me of the fact that our troops in Iraq are getting attacked with up to 14,000 weapons we recently misplaced. Reminds me of the fact that we’re struggling in Iraq because we chose cronyism over competence.

This country is wounded by an arrow feathered from our own wings — there’s hope now these wounds aren’t fatal.

By Ah hate neo-scum

November 8, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

Death camps for all illegals and all neo-scum! Round em up, and gas em, zylone B is good enough.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

Markus: The Right brought up the invalid response of “If you challenge Bush and/or disagree with his policies in Iraq you are unAmerican and therefore unpatriotic”. That has been the Bush/Cheney mantra for the past 4 years. Smacks of 50’s McCarthyism.

Dusty is a brilliant lady also a great verbal combatant, but she painted herself into a corner on that one. But she’s smooth, she deliberately evaded that question darn near every day for the past 2 weeks. Maybe she should run for office.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

Bad week for tyrants - Saddam gets a death sentence, Dumbya sees a Democratic Congress elected that will have him investigated forewrds and backwards and most likely impeached. The firing of Rummy today is Dumbya realizing that the jig is up - that he might just have to pay dearly for his arrogance and sociopathic nature…

A few years from now, maybe Dumbya will receive the incarceration he so richly deserves.

By Dusty

November 8, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

Markus,

I can’t leave without making some reference to your posts.

I know you are not happy about the elections and I am not full of joy either. But to reflect on Jews does not sit well with me.

You are talking about Israel and politics but it reflects on our American citizens. Jews have offered much to our country. And I have enjoyed some of their great abilities.

My doctor is Jewish and a most ethical and professional person. He has been our doctor for many years and we feel—-indespensible. For example, he came to the hospital in the middle of the night when we had a family emergency. He stabilized the patient and stayed until he was sure recovery had started.

So let us not lump together any “group” if possible. I am trying to do that with Democrats. After reading posts here, it gets harder and harder.

By Typical Georgia Repub

November 8, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

I’m still drinkin’ the Kool-Aid. Dubya is my President. Just keep the welfare checks for all my illegitimate kids comin’ in.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

ANSWER MY QUESTION! Why is al-Jazeera, terrorist voice, celebrating Democratic wins in the USA???

Dusty: could you please provide the link and/or the site where this is at?

By Dusty

November 8, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

Debbie,

Wooohooo..I’m brilliant!! My family will smile and say “Awww come on!!”

But thanks anyway. I will overlook the rest and concentrate on “brilliant”. Bye now!!

By akbar

November 8, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

Libbie will spend 20 years in a cell near that other jew bastard traitor, Frank the jew Pollard. Deport all american jews to izrael now, otherwise one day sooner or later we will have to try them for treason, convict them, and execute them all. You know what that means, their surviving pals will yell “genocide” when the bald facts should read “treason.” That is why the holocaust was justified, the jews failed to fight for the nazi’s, which under nazi law made them traitors. Traitors are almost always executed. Too bad the nazi’s were too dumb to use that justification at neuremburg, but hell, they thought that if it came to neuremburg, they were screwed anyway. Of course, the jews are planning to extract a victory for izrael from the american defeat in Iraq. Izrael is making deals with the Kurds and the Turks for Kurdish oil, while sending the Americans the bill for an oil pipeline from Kurd land to Haifa. Once AmeriKa agrees to an oil pipeline, seperate pipelines will be secretely added for water and electricity (connection to the Eurpean grid). Americans are stupid, and they richly deserve their fate of poverty and dispare.

By Bartender

November 8, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

I’m making Georgie’s favorite drink. Who else wants one? Van? Markus? C’mon. Toast to better days. It’ll be okay.

By Realist

November 8, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

I say go ahead Demoncrats, put the squeeze on me and other small business owners. And watch us put our workers on the street so fast your head swims. Watch unemployment rates soar and the economy go in the toilet….

By I will answer your question Dusty--

November 8, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

Because Al-Jazerra and the Democrats are both interested in Truth and Justice.

By Buy Danish

November 8, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

CJ,

650 people from a “Left Wing Think Tank. Left-wingers are so good on economic policy. See Europe, Soviet Union, China, South America, et cetera. /sarc.

Out of 6 million people who would get an increase, almost 2 million are middle class teenagers. Groovy.

As for increasing the earned income tax credit - no way unless they get rid of other taxes like the Alternative Minimum Tax - in the spirit of bipartisanship of course.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

Decent Americans (that would be anyone not from the south), apalled by the incompetence and malfeasance of Republican government and leadership, voted to stop the sham and deception that the GOP foisted upon this great country. NOT A SINGLE DEMOCRAT SEAT WAS LOST YESTERDAY.

Confederate-Americans, not used to anything but incompetent and sleaze in government, still voted GOP, of course.

By Where are all the Poofs?

November 8, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

Where are the usual suspects today - only Markus has stayed with us today, and she’s not doing her usual shreiking and whining. All the other gals have stayed home, or just made a brief appearance. TFTT? jbm? Realisp? Andi?

By Markus

November 8, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

CJ-

“This country is wounded by an arrow feathered from our own wings — there’s hope now these wounds aren’t fatal.”

That’s your opinion. My opinion is that our complacency during the Carter, Reagan, HW Bush, and Clinton administration on islamofascism has cost us dearly, and that W is trying to make up for something that should have started being addressed 30 years ago. Iraq was just one of many of those facets, and almost four years ago the majority of US Democratic congressmen and women agreed.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this

DebbieDR-

The Right brought up the invalid response of “If you challenge Bush and/or disagree with his policies in Iraq you are unAmerican and therefore unpatriotic”..Smacks of 50’s McCarthyism.

Where would I be without a day of in the liberal accusation world of nazism, mccarthyism, and neoconism.

So please tell me why you can’t be chastized for chastizing a government, whether right or wrong? Are you saying it’s ok to protest the government, but it’s not ok to protest the protester?

By Dorkus

November 8, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Duh, I think that Bush is great, duh.

Double duhh, I think that Iraq is a good war cause we can beet the terrorishts and everything cause bush is a good president, duhhh.

Triple duh, I like cheese, duh.

By JK

November 8, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

Mr. Realist, for what it’s worth, I would not support “putting the squeeze on” you or other small business owners. Small business are what made this great country prosperous, and made the American dream possible for people everywhere who wanted to persue their own “thing” and make a living at it. I don’t think you are automatically in danger of squeezing, although I understand a minimum wage increase COULD be a temporary setback.

Please try to let go of some of the stereotypes and rhetoric and look at what’s what. Big business has been squeezing small business out for decades, largely because THEY get the tax breaks (sorry… “incentives”) and not the small business owners. Big Cash Corps have been buying their legislators and special exemptions at your expense. Too much of American business is cloned now. Everywhere you go: same sh-t. (Eatin’ “good” in the neighborhood? Yuck!) By taxing big corps and offering incentives to smaller businesses, we can revive the American entrepreneural spirit, and hopefully have some better restaurants too! That is my HOPE, anyway, and that is what I’ll support should my (repub) Congressman ever start to give a damn what I think. Thanks for listening.

By Dorkus

November 8, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Duh, I think that Foley is a good man, he only wrote a couple emails joking around. I mean Clinton is the bad guy, not Foley. Duh.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

Dusty-

I know you are not happy about the elections and I am not full of joy either. But to reflect on Jews does not sit well with me. You are talking about Israel and politics but it reflects on our American citizens. So let us not lump together any “group” if possible. I am trying to do that with Democrats.

If that is how you interpreted my post then you have my most sincerest apology. My point is that a large group of people in this nation, the Jews, whom I absolutely adore, don’t seem to be supporting a party that appears to not support the state of Israel, sans Lieberman. Look around the Web and look at all the anti-Semite comments from the left as to why we are funding Israel; look at the comments of Georgia’s own Billy McKinney… “It’s the JEWS! JEWS! J-E-W-S! You’re not one of them, are you?

I’m merely making an observation, that’s all.

By Dorkus

November 8, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

Duh, you liverals just wait till ‘08 when us christian righters will taken over der verld again, and even cut taxes and stuff and do stuff good again, duh.

By Dorkus

November 8, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

Duh, I think the GOP is great and everything and Jesus is on our side cause we dont want gay marriage and we save babies from being cloned by clowns and we only kill bad people in Iraq so we’re the good guys, duh.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

Hey bartender!

I’m actually as happy today as I was yesterday, last week, last year, 10 years ago, etc. etc. I know you libs are probably scratching your backsides over why, but suffice it to say I’m not affected by what goes on in Washington on a personal level. I don’t rely on Washington to make decisions for me.

Cheers to being an individual.

By Dorkus

November 8, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

Duh, I’m going to study all about civics and stuff so I can blog smarter and then I’ll be the political cool guy on this blog, duh.

By CJ

November 8, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

Danish,

Your article didn’t say the 650 economists were from a left-wing think tank (that would be a stretch, even for The Economist). It said that a left-wing think tank published the letter.

The Economic Policy Institute is non-partisan. Like Markus, jbm and you, The Economist (a plutocratic publication) labels any person or organization that provides data they don’t like as left-wing, socialist, etc.

By Dorkus

November 8, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

Duh…I forgot what I was sayin’, duh.

I’m the best blogger here cause I can bash and flame with clever words I stole from a book of put downs and also I remember what the bullies said to me on the short bus in elementary school, duh……they stole my helmet too….duh…..pffth! (free of all pokes)

By Dusty

November 8, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

Debbie,

In reference to alJazerra, they have already moved to Thursday with a headline that ends with…the resignation of Donald Rumsfeld, defence secretary, has been greeted with jublilation around the world.

Just go to Google and type in alzajerra and it will come up. Election “jubilation” must have been yesterday.

You can see why I think they are HAPPY!

Off to dinner….

By Buy Danish

November 8, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

CJ,

I love your “Rob Peter to pay Paul” redistribution plan. Also glad to see you oppose cloning. Sigh.

I’m not exactly sure how giving tax breaks to KIA ends up getting us more restaurants, but I trust you will fill us in after you make a few calls to some newly elected Moonbats and their advisors.

You know we could end all this lobbying for special interest tax reductions by moving to The Fair Tax. I can think of no single reform that would be more effective in weeding out corruption. Only thing is - it would put an end to most class warfare arguments.

Choose or lose.

Realist,

The beauty of it is that when the economy tanks from the great Pelosi reforms - they get to blame it on Bush and elect Hillary.

Great scam they’ve got going!

By Markus Pitier

November 8, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

Markus is obscenely obese at 560 pounds on a 5 feet 4 inch frame, and is bed ridden in her mothers house in Carrolton, Ga. This and other blog sites are her only outlets, so please show some mercy and support for one of the least amoung us. Markus, you go girl.

By CJ

November 8, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

Realist @4:17 “I say go ahead Demoncrats, put the squeeze on me and other small business owners. And watch us put our workers on the street so fast your head swims. Watch unemployment rates soar and the economy go in the toilet.

That’s exactly what you plutocrats said when Congress raised taxes in 1993 to curb our government’s addiction to debt. That’s exactly what you said when we raised the minimum wage in the 90’s. You were wrong then, and you’re wrong again now.

You guys don’t seem to learn from experience. You cling to your misinformed conclusions no matter what. It’s quite sad really.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

November 8, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

Hey, I don’t want to raise Realisp’s taxes - I would just like him/her to pony up his/her family’s fair share of this war in Iraq s/he loves so much.

So get your chickenhawk butt to Iraq, Realisp - Dumbya needs you girlfriend.

By DebbieDoRight

November 8, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

  • Are you saying it’s ok to protest the government, but it’s not ok to protest the protester?*

Heck no! I ENJOY a little protesting!! What i was saying is that Republicans first brought up the theory of “if they ain’t with us they’re against us!” (As a matter of fact I think Dubya said that in a speech). And I was pointing out that u can love the US and hate the President, the two don’t go hand in hand.

By Ah Break Wind in the Faces of all NeoCon Scum

November 8, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

Yo Bartender, put some p** into George’s drink, he likes the taste. It brings back fond memories of his nights at Yale.

By rj

November 8, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

Everyone just get back to work or play. It doesn’t really matter what stripe the politicians wear as our plight is out of our control. If you think any of these folks have the best LONG term interest of our country at heart you’re long gone from reality. The more things change the more they stay the same. We’re all being suckered if we believe the altruistic statements bantered by politicians at election time. Laughable is that many don’t even make an effort at altuism any more, opting instead to stoke fears in the voting populace and spread outright lies about their opponenets. Doesn’t it just make you swell up with pride knowing these tasteless junkyard tactics shape the personalities of those guiding our future as a country? Most are solely motivated by the short sighted and narcissistic trappings of power and money. The few that don’t succumb to these faults are drowning in the others wake. Don’t ever take seriously the suggestion that ones Kerry is better or worse than anothers Bush. Hold tight to your wallets, tighter to your children, remeber the essence of right vs. wrong and keep a skeptical and vigilent eye on all these creeps.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

CJ-

I’ll ask you for a THIRD time now since you have pressed me in the past for an answer:

Exactly why have you not responded to my comment about your “plutocrat” comment about we right-wingers?

By Markus

November 8, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Heh, Markus has our resident liberal ID spooker up in arms today. Why so lib, lib? Your guys won and I’m not suicidal unhappy. Boy that’s got to have those two wires in your little brain crossed over, huh? You have no clue why I’m not red-faced unhappy, do you?

But don’t worry dear, I’m back at work tomorrow. I always take vacation time around election years. At the very least, I know now what it feels like to be a typical democrat constituent and sit on my @ss all day getting paid to do nothing. And I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it.

By JK

November 8, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

rj

You are right…. IF we the people (a) stay distracted and fail to pay attention to what they’re doing in our name, and (b) keep hatin’ on each other. “Divide and Conquer” is an old, effective strategy.

But our system is built to work IF WE PARTICIPATE, demand accountability, and accept nothing less than their best efforts and their best integrity, at least where the money is concerned. (IMO) Pay attention, people! And we just might have a chance.

By @@

November 8, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

Golly Re(burp)post, did you bother to read my second post? Conservatives don’t repeat rhetoric, we encourage independent thought.

Something I admire in conservatives.

You liberals ought to try it sometime. Same old same old day in, day out. I could listen to a left-wing news media commentator and know pretty well what to expect from liberal’s mouths the next day.

Now to be honest I didn’t read your entire post. I’m tired of repeats. If I missed your point. It was intentional.

By Buy Danish

November 8, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

Markus,

Do you think Republicans will get Pelosi Derangement Syndrome?

By Political Foreskin

November 8, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

Our long national nightmare is over.

We have a great task of dismantling the doomsday machine that Rove and Cheney set upon us.

We shall not stop until every vestige of the Bush agenda is wiped from our consciousness.

Long live liberty, justice and freedom for all Americans.

All Americans.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

DebbieDR-

Republicans first brought up the theory of “if they ain’t with us they’re against us!” (As a matter of fact I think Dubya said that in a speech).

He was referring to the nations he wanted to join in the fight against islamoterrorism.

Again, I’d like to know why leftists think it’s ok to go against an administration (and believe me, it’s OK), but yet NOT ok to go against those that go against the administration, again, whether right or wrong.

By Political Foreskin

November 8, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

Our long national nightmare is over.

We must not take glee in the total defeat of the miserable rats who ran this country into the ground.

We must secure this victory with double safeguards against the tyranny that nearly sank us.

I insist we start impeachment proceedings against George W. Bush as soon as practicable.

He’s not getting away with it. He’s going to suffer the legal consequences of his crimes against our great nation.

I insist.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

BD-

Do you think Republicans will get Pelosi Derangement Syndrome?

No, I think she’ll do that job herself, which is why I’m not at all that unhappy at the situation. But right now we have to see how the libs will sort themselves out. It’s their ball now they’ve wanted for 12 years. Let’s see how they handle it. We Reagan Conservatives who shook the nation just 26, 22, and 12 years ago are not dead… not by a long shot. We just haven’t had proper representation lately. Let’s just sit back and watch the hard left Democrats do themselves in, again.

By Buy Danish

November 8, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this

Markus,

I think we need to be very Bi-Partisan. Everytime they ask for something we say “no” unless we get something in return.

Minimum wage hike? Kill the Alternative Minimum Tax.

Ethanol subsidies? Drill in Anwar.

And so on.

Bush can veto everything that doesn’t have something major in there for us.

By Bartender

November 8, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

We Reagan Conservatives who shook the nation just 26, 22, and 12 years ago are not dead…

But…. can you still get it up?

By Liberal Drive -by

November 8, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

“Let’s just sit back and watch the hard left Democrats do themselves in, again.”

What’s a hard left Democrat?

By CJ

November 8, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

People who earn minimum wage have a “marginal propensity to consume” (or MPC) equal to 1.0. That means they spend every additional dollar they make. Somebody who makes $100,000 per year might have an MPC of .85, meaning they spend 85 cents out of every raise. As a rule, the higher the income level, the lower the MPC. This makes sense since people at lower income levels are in less of a position to save…a larger percentage of their dollars are spent on necessities.

So because of a higher MPC for low wage workers, each of their dollars is injected right back into the economy. Therefore, increasing the minimum wage leads to increased spending. Increased spending leads to economic growth. Economic growth leads to more jobs. More jobs means more spending…and the cycle continues.

For the same reason, the Earned Income Tax Credit (to offset regressive payroll and sales taxes) actually benefits the economy (and all of us) more than it costs us.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Bartender-

I have Italian blood, which is why I’m such a hothead. You figure that question out.

Driveby-

Let’s start with Pelosi and work our way backwards. If you need a list, I’ll give you one.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

BD-

I think we need to be very Bi-Partisan. Everytime they ask for something we say “no” unless we get something in return.

Exactly. I don’t know what these leftists are thinking, but Bush was the best Republican operative they could have ever hoped for. How many bills drawn up by democrats did Bush veto? Case closed.

Bush can veto everything that doesn’t have something major in there for us.

The problem with Bush is that he’s too “nice” to his opponents. And now we are paying for it.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

CJ-

You can spit numbers out all day long, but the bottom line on a “livable wage” at $7.50 or $10/hr or whatever you people want is that those in charge of small businesses are in charge of their finances, not the government. It can’t be any more plain than that, but if you want an immediate 35% increase in the minimum wage with more to come, just sit back and watch your results. Don’t say you weren’t warned.

By getalife

November 8, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Well macaca,

I am Sicilian and you are a disgrace to Italians.

I bet you worship Mussolini.

By Buy Danish

November 8, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

CJ,

Every cent that I don’t have to pay in taxes is either spent or saved/invested too. And every cent that I save is subject to….more taxes!

The difference is that with a tax cut or with the free market determining wage levels, if I’m a small biz owner I actually benefit directly and as a big plus, my plan has the benefit of reducing government’s size and reach.

With your altruistic program - Qui bono? If I own a small business that uses unskilled labor and I’m forced to pay my employees more than they’re worth, how does it help ME to have to pay a higher hourly wage AND more in SSI?

How does it help ME when inflation rises?

How does it help ME when I have to choose between firing a worker because I can’t afford to pay them, or not making a profit?

How does it help THEM when costs rise? How does it help THEM when they are fired?

What happens if there’s a recession or worse? Do the minimum wage laws get repealed or adjusted down? Or do wages only go up up up?

By RW (the aboriginal)

November 8, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

Duh. Bush will change his mind, I’m sure and rehire Rumsfeld the great soldier who helped us stay on course in iraq, duh.

I blog good cause I know stuff and I’m from Yahoo message boards where I posted stuff there too and I know more than you so there. Duh.

By CJ

November 8, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this

Markus,

Plutocrats prefer a system of government that gives people of enormous wealth disproportionate influence over our society (disproportionate being the key word).

You’re right — Pelosi, Kerry and the rest are rich. Nearly, all of our elected officials in Washington are wealthy because of our election system and system of governing. If they weren’t rich when they got there, they frequently become rich either while they’re still there or as soon as they get out — through connections they make with wealthy people.

Plutocrats believe that a corporation is a “person” under the 14th amendment — something the founders never intended. Plutocrats have no problem with corporations making political donations or hiring lobbyists to influence elections and laws (yes - I have a problem with unions making political donations). Plutocrats don’t believe in campaign donation limits. Plutocrats believe that selling public airwaves and roadways to the highest bidder is an exercise of free speech — those with the most money get the most free speech. Plutocrats support tax cuts for corporations and in categories that primarily benefit the wealthiest among us (ex: dividend, inheritance and capital gains cuts) at the same time that they’re also pushing for tax hikes for most middle and lower income workers (i.e. the so-called FairTax). Plutocrats have no problem with corporations listing management salaries that are hundreds of times greater than their average employees’ salaries as a “legitimate” business expenses on their tax returns. Plutocrats argue that such salaries are a result of supply and demand (they’re not) and are good for investors (they’re not).

I could go on for a long time, but in short, you’re a plutocrat.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this

gitmolife-

I am Sicilian and you are a disgrace to Italians

I said I have Italian blood, I didn’t say I was Italian. I’m also of Austrian-German descent. Helluva mix, huh?

In any event, ask me again if I give a flying Iranian pig what you think of me personally.

By Markus

November 8, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this

CJ-

Nearly, all of our elected officials in Washington are wealthy because of our election system and system of governing. If they weren’t rich when they got there, they frequently become rich either while they’re still there or as soon as they get out — through connections they make with wealthy people.

I vehemently disagree. Pelosi didn’t get rich in government nor did anybody else. NOBODY gets rich working for the government. Period end of story.

Plutocrats support tax cuts for corporations and in categories that primarily benefit the wealthiest among us (ex: dividend, inheritance and capital gains cuts) at the same time that they’re also pushing for tax hikes for most middle and lower income workers (i.e. the so-called FairTax).

First of all, those “tax cuts” for corporations are for employee incentives like healthcare, retirement, and continuing education. Second of all, who are you liberal socialists to say that those who make their own money and choose to invest it, hand it down to their heirs, or make a profit on a real estate deal don’t deserve that money? It’s not the government’s money. The government doesn’t make money, the people do.

Plutocrats have no problem with corporations listing management salaries that are hundreds of times greater than their average employees’ salaries as a “legitimate” business expenses on their tax returns.

That’s up to the Board Of Directors to set those salaries, NOT the government.

Plutocrats argue that such salaries are a result of supply and demand (they’re not) and are good for investors (they’re not).

If you can’t do your job, you’re fired. Just ask the HP chief that the media was fawning over a few years ago by being a woman.

Now tell me again how a people (plutocrats) who can be FOR a government that is in every way AGAINST rewarding those who choose to be successful and independent in life via progressive taxation that’s been around since the Great Depression? Oh I forgot… that’s not a part of the American dream according to you liberals. We can’t get “too rich” because that’s unfair to those who choose to sit on their @sses whining while the world passes them by and takes care of themselves.

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