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Hunting, stem cell research and preferences
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Around the country on Tuesday voters will be choosing among the usual assortment of candidates. But they’ll also be amending state constitutions and implementing laws. Here are some of the ballot questions. Good ideas or not? You decide:
Eight states propose to define marriage as one man, one woman. Colorodo asks two questions: Whether to define marriage as one man, one woman, but also whether to permit domestic partnerships with the benefits of marriage.
Georgia offers a constitutional amendment to protect hunting and fishing. State Sen. Eric Johnson, the president pro tem of the State Senate, explains: “For years, animal rights extremists have been systematically campaigning against hunting and fishing throughout the country. It is only a matter of time before they set their sights on Georgia. For those who do not think our right to hunt and fish is under serious threat, they need to know that extremist organizations like PETA are lurking in the background. PETA supporters testified against this amendment in Committee…. The main purpose of Amendment 2 is to assure that all Georgians, urban and rural, will have the opportunity to share family traditions with their children and grandchildren.”
Arizona proposes to require that pigs during pregnancy and callves raised for veal be given enough space to turn around, lie down and fully extend when tethered.
California proposes a $4 billion tax on oil to be given for research on alternative energy sources, and prohibits them from passing the tax on to consumers.
Michigan proposes to ban race, gender and other preferences in public employment, contracting or school admissions.
Arizona would ban in-state student status at colleges for illegal immigrants.
Missouri has an amendment that one side says would protect and promote embryonic stem-cell research and the other says would permit cloning.




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Comments
By GodHatesTrash
November 6, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this
Georgia traditions - huntin’, lynchin’, drinkin’, druggin’, whorin’, incest and bestiality. Most of you rednecks are too fat to walk around in the woods.
What a fine bunch of trash.
By Real Conservative
November 6, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this
Let’s review what this Republican Party has accomplished.
They enact “taxation without representation� via tax cuts today with the knowledge that future generations will to have to pick-up the tab for the resulting debt and interest on that debt.
They replace members of ethics committees when they don’t like their findings.
This Republican Party isn’t the party of smaller government and strong defense; they’re the party of me, myself and I. They can run commercials about low taxes and small government all day long; they can go to church every Sunday and walk around with a Bible in their hands; they can pin an American flag to their lapels; and they can whine about geriatric hippies desecrating our flag. But it’s clear that this Republican Party and its savage apologists are frauds. They put themselves first and our country last. They unnecessarily endanger our men and women in uniform, and their greed gets innocent women and children killed – tens of thousands of them.
These Republicans have no idea how to keep us safe, they’re not conservative and there is nothing Christian about them. They’re con artists, and I refused to be among the conned. With my vote tomorrow, I’m taking my business elsewhere.
By Peter
November 6, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this
Not much on the brain today Jim?
With all real issues out there in this election………typical Republican thoughts………none………that is why they go down this year.
By Political Foreskin
November 6, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this
Nix on any marriage definitions. Next, the states will be legally defining friends, and acquaintances, and making ducking the stop-and-chat a felony. No way. People do what they want anyway, and the laws will just make us look pathetic. Duh, I’m gonna tell, I’m gonna tell, I’m gonna tell….retards!
Nix on legislating hunting too. All this will do is commercialize it and ruin it, because every dittoheadwound in this state thinks he’s Daniel Boone. These tortoises couldn’t hunt roadkill. They plant themselves in trees and blinds and then hope that some unsuspecting animal will mosie by in range. That’s target practice, not hunting. I keep moving. I’m a stealth hunter. I use my wits and often come fact to face within yards of deer, turkey, and even little rabbit foo foo.
By Bubba
November 6, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this
Good morning. By God, we need to stop those PETA freaks! What are they trying to do, “save the animals”? It’s my God given right to take my semi-automatic rifle and obliterate all the damn animals I can find. I usually kill about 10 deer, 50 squirrels, 30 ducks, 100’s of birds and a couple dogs for fun each year.
Who are they to say what’s right and wrong? I’m thinking about moving my sights up on bigger game - the two legged kind!
Animals ain’t got any damn feelings. When I shoot one, if it ain’t dead, I plays with it some. I’ll cut off a leg or two and watch it squirm. Now that’s real fun! Hunting’s what makes me feel like a real man. I can’t get it up when I’m in bed with a woman, so killing an innocent animal with a gun from 100 feet away makes me feel macho. Save your Oprah watching, I like killin.
By Peter
November 6, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this
Hi Jim,
I would like to see your response to “Let’s review what the Republican Party has accomplished”………
How about all you others out there that follow a party as a puppy dog!
By Political Foreskin
November 6, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this
Nix on allowing pigs and calfs enough room to lie down or turn around when tethered. How will the red state hunters ever shoot them if they can move around like that? No, on Arizona proposition anything. I hate Arizona anyway. It’s so hot that if you stick your arm out of a moving car, it can burn the hair off of it in seconds. True. That’s how they skin the calves for veal. No, I’m agin it.
By DebbieDoRight
November 6, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this
But it’s clear that this Republican Party and its savage apologists are frauds. They put themselves first and our country last. They unnecessarily endanger our men and women in uniform, and their greed gets innocent women and children killed – tens of thousands of them. These Republicans have no idea how to keep us safe, they’re not conservative and there is nothing Christian about them. They’re con artists
Best Dang Comment EVER on this blog!!
By Junior
November 6, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this
Your not a real man unless you can kill an innocent animal with a gun. Thats what makes a man a man.
By Richard
November 6, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this
Bush is smarter than he looks! Hold on, stop laughing - continue reading this.
Most soldiers are Democrats (fact). Therefore, if you’re a Republican and you want to win elections, you send those Democratic soldiers to a phony war where they can get killed by the 100’s. That’s what Bush did - and keeps doing. Maybe once the election’s over, he’ll bring our boys back.
By @@
November 6, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this
Jim: You’ve made today’s responses pretty easy.
Domestic partnership? Why, because their request started based on legal necessities, so let’s give ‘em what they wanted originally and move on.
Hunting & Fishing? Absolutely, Amendment 2 will keep us from having to allow the critters to move in with us unless PETA can stop development dead in its’ tracks.
Arizona Pigs & Calves? I wonder how Sheriff Joe Arpaio would vote on this one? Me? I vote with my wallet on veal. I don’t eat it. I have no idea why pregnant pigs are confined. Do they have hormonal imbalances during pregnancy that causes them to go into a rage or something? It does seem inhumane, and for what reason? To satisfy human desires.
California blackmail of oil companies? How about a more diplomatic approach. I’m thinking about jobs here.
Michigan ban preferences? Absolutely…it’s time. Maintaining them only brings division.
Arizona in-state student ban? Gee!!! Can we apply those ^^^ preferences on this one. Motivational incentives are always good.
Missouri & stem-cell? This is becoming a very scary issue Jim. Have you read this?
Allow Debate On Euthanasia For Seriously Disabled Infants Say Experts
Are we certain Dr. Mengele died?
By Peter
November 6, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this
Did anyone watch 60 minutes last night……
one Arizona Republican trying to make a difference on “Pork Spending”……as an independent person, I think this is the “ONE” Republican with his eye on America…….he knows we all know this administration, and both Congress and the House have wasted more American Tax money than any other time in our history……
We have the HIGHEST EVER Pork Spending and biggest government we have ever had…….
Now tell me again why we should trust the Republicans?
Are they not the ones who ALWAYS accuse the Democrates of that?
By Producer
November 6, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this
God, only 8 or 9 comments in and the Republicans are already being carved up! Well, to add some perspective here, you Democrats should be very proud of Democrat attorney, Ramsey Clark who called the Saddam trial and verdict a “travesty.” Is it any wonder that most of the American people see the Dems as soft on national defense with stupid comments like his. A known murderer and your side says this?! Hopefully, these appeasement like comments will be used in the final 24 hours to show the true character of most national level Democrats. Y’all never met a dictator you didn’t fawn all over and love and never met a major weapons or security program that you didn’t oppose! Saddam, Chavez, Gorbachev, Mao, Kim Jung, Castro, Ortega…LOL. And let’s see…Hmmmm…you don’t like the NSA eavesdropping program that targets terrorist callers to their allies in the states. But don’t worry, this nation will succeed and persevere in spite of you. It’s like Reagan said during the 1992 Republican Convention when the Dems were trying to take some sliver of credit for having brought the Soviets to their knees and ending the Cold War, Reagan said “I heard those speakers at that other convention saying “we won the Cold War” – and I couldn’t help wondering, just who exactly do they mean by “we”? Right on Gipper!
By sct
November 6, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this
Wow, PETA must have some real power in Georgia! How many lobbyist’s do you think Peta sends to Georgia during the Legislature? Can you imagine a legislator going home and saying “I voted for the PETA Bill.” That would be as bad as saying “In Atlanta, I did meth and had sex with a male hustler.”
Are these pork loving Georgia legislators going to pack the Fox theatre for a fun, food, and drink extravaganza sponsored by PETA, like they do the Road Builders Ball? Can you imagine 100’s of Georgia lawmakers stuffing themselves with free tofurkey?
Yes, I now understand the threat, if its free the Georgia Legislators would eat anything. Even tofurkey. Despite PETA’s ZERO influence, vote FOR the Hunting amendment, save a soybean.
By getalife
November 6, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this
Pelosi: GOP leadership ‘freak show’ is almost over
“House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi characterized Tuesday’s vote as a referendum on the war, shrugged off President Bush’s efforts to make her liberalism a national issue, described the current GOP leadership as a “freak show,” and expressed confidence about her party’s prospects to pick up the 15 seats it needs for a majority.”
Get out and vote GA!
By Richard
November 6, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this
Give me a break, Producer. Reagan didn’t remember what he said 5 minutes after he said it. Remember, even after Reagan spoke, the Republicans still lost the presidency because of their history: Reagan - a senile (but nice) man. Bush, Sr. - a man without a clue of what’s going on. Quayle - need anything really be said?
Things were getting cleaned up until Bush Jr took over. Now, the Republicans will have to pay for his incompetence.
By J Smith
November 6, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this
The Republicans and the radio talk show hosts are at it again. Trying to scare people into voting GOP. Now they are trying to say that the people in Iraq are watching the american elections. That makes no sense. How would they be watching the elections over here and why would they care about a Democrat or Republican win if they even know the difference. Thats a stupit scare tactic. Please don’t let these so called conservatives try to use fear to try and get you to vote on them as they always do. Our sercurity can get no worse under Democrats then it is under Republicans now. It can only get better from here.
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this
My goodness, lunacy reigns this morning. The moonbats are in full force today, such bizarre anger. Seems like 90% of the stuff on the blog this morning is off-topic. I’ll try to do better.
Marriage definition: fundamentally a good idea, as courts are inherently untrustworthy as legislators. My libertarian bent requires me to acknowledge that government has only a de minimis interest here: protection of children. Otherwise there is no reason for government intervention at all; leave it to employers to recognize whatever they wish, and allow private individuals to contract any way they wish. The purpose of the definition is to prohibit the government from constricting behavior of employers, so I don’t object.
Hunting and Fishing: fundamentally a good idea, as courts are inherently untrustworthy as legislators. It is not beyond the imaginable that some leftist court will determine that hunting and fishing is an abomination and thus illegal. As the purpose of the amendment is to restrict the government from limiting behavior, I would support.
Animal husbandry: I don’t have a strong feeling. My sense is that we will all be vegetarians in another couple of generations, so I doubt that this is a meaningful proposal. I dislike laws restricting behavior generally, so I would oppose.
Tax on oil to fund government research on less efficient energy sources – speaks for itself, clearly Moonbat legislation.
Michigan proposal to treat all citizens equally, without regard to race, sex, creed, or color: how bizarre, a state that proposes to follow the law. Too bad the rest do not follow that course.
Ban in-state treatment for illegal immigrants in Arizona: I have mixed feelings. I can justify disparate treatment for out-of-state students, but the treatment for illegal immigrants should not be different from that of other out-of-state students. After some period of time the disability is normally removed, and the illegal immigrants should not be differentiated from Texans, for example.
Stem cell – government ought not be in the issue at all. The phrasing of the amendment would seemingly legally protect fetus-farms, thus I would oppose as written, purely on morality grounds. I have less objection to adult stem cell research, since there are no fetus farms involved. Even if someone proves some tangible benefit from fetus farms, I oppose. Intentional killing of innocents remains on my list of taboos.
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this
Its time that all the stinking dirt-brained liberals STFU! None of you matter in this conversation so do us the favor of staying out! Hell yes I have a right to own 15 guns and shoot whatever the hell I want to shoot! Just make sure your liberal @sses aren’t on my property and you wont have to worry. Cows and pigs were made to be eaten - by me! Keep your liberalist hands off of my damn food! Bunch of no-good liberalist commies!
huge mass-killing smirk
By @@
November 6, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this
BTW Jim: I’ve been watching the elections in Nicaragua. Last I checked, Ortega was in the lead.
Can you Imagine? Ortega is sporting pink these days. All dressed up with somewhere to go but he may have to go stag because Chavez has gone too far.
I guess manure doesn’t maintain its’ value. It begins to smell when left lying in the sun.
Hope you’re enjoying your trek Jim.
By Curious Observer
November 6, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this
How about a ban on rednecks? I’d vote for that one. In their racist, misogynistic zeal, they want to destroy America by imposing their ignorant creed on everybody else. They’ve already given us this cowboy president, who has taken this country to the brink of the cliff.
If we get rid of rednecks, we won’t have to worry about hunting amendments, stem cell research restrictions, abortion bans, and other measures designed to appeal to the most cravenly ignorant and superstitious among us.
Vote as though your life and your freedoms are at stake tomorrow, for they are. Don’t vote for a single Republican or Libertarian.
By Frank
November 6, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this
Jim wrote: “The main purpose of Amendment 2 is to assure that all Georgians, urban and rural, will have the opportunity to share family traditions with their children and grandchildren.”
Does that include incest?
By Political Foreskin
November 6, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this
Remember, trolls, Diebold is “Benedict Arnold” backwards, or it’s a cryptogram of it, or one of those biblical code anagram things……actually you can form the words, “Can rent Diebold” from “Benedict Arnold”, as Nostradomus predicted.
Now Nostradomus also saw that tuesday’s election will be exposed as fraud and americans will object.
This is found in the quatrains: “Ballot stuff…..they had enough…..king george called on bluff….evidence so much fluff…..emperor now seen in buff…shallow man such a puff…. one fraud really muffed…..leaders leave in cuffs….statued lady indignant huff…..
By Redneck Convert
November 6, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this
Just when I laid in a stock of ammo for my Uzi, AK-47, and machine gun, I learn that the libruls want to keep me from blowing some animals away. And the gays want to line up to marry right in front of my trailer, just to spite me.
Anyway, it was a mighty dull church service yesterday, what with the Revrend Jim Bob Buice in jail for being found nekkid in the bushes with that 12-year-old boy. Sister Dusty allowed as how it was a shame these mean boys have nothing better to do than tempt a fine, upstanding preacher. I see that preacher out west got tempted, too. The difference is we haven’t fired the Revrend Jim Bob yet.
Anyway, don’t forget to vote for Republicans tomorrow, specially Sonny. Don’t pay no attention to those ads against him. He would be mighty dumb not to get a special law passed to give hisself a tax break on that land.
The missus is beginning to brighten up a little about the election. But she still has her eye on that icebox, just in case the Republicans lose. She says she’ll eat herself to death if the Dems win, and I believe her. Anyway, don’t forget to vote for the Republicans tomorrow. What with Wooten planning to go on vacation after the election, I guess this is my last word on the election for a while. Maybe us conservatives can get together for a victory party later this week. I’d like to meet Wooten, Realist, Markus, jbmlaw, Van, and all the other True Americans. We think so much alike it’s scary.
By Political Foreskin
November 6, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this
Point of order: jbmlaw, YOU are the moonbat. You post to yourself with your aliases, so that you can trash the left. You pretend to be a moonbat, and then you appear as jbmlaw to calmly retort like some beneficient parlimentary ombudsman, when in reality you’re just a stinking little troll.
and EVERYONE knows it. Even Wooten, cause I tipped him off about you months ago.
Imagine a lawyer who blogs all day to himself, making imaginary “Perry Mason” moments with trolls in his own head.
That’s jbmlaw, my fine friends. Enjoy the moonbuttery.
How did I know? How did I get the drop on jbmlaw?
Well, I played a hunch…a lucky guess…sometimes a hunch pays off, sometimes it doesn’t…I was just lucky…I played a hunch…..
Plus the fact that I recognize this genius from AOL and YAHOO. He’s an old troll playing the same troll tricks he’s been playing for ten years, people.
Warning: Do not click on jbmlaws, andy, @@, RW, Dye Brainless links. They contain viruses that will crash your new dell. I learned the hard way about these horrid trolls.
I’d ignore them and just move on dot com. They comprise 75% of the 200 comments that appear on this blog every day, and there’s only a handful of them.
They think they can make a difference in the right vs left debate and they even think they can swing sentiment in an election. Some of them may be boiler room RNC plants. Real stinkpots.
All they do is stink up a blog beyond salvation.
By getalife
November 6, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this
The American Conservative
GOP Must Go
By DebbieDoRight
November 6, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this
BEWARE: Twisted Truth is off his meds again.
By getalife
November 6, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
Dick Morris predicts “GOP Massacre� - “Bloody Tuesday� for Republicans
Get out and vote!
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this
Hey DebbyDoEverybody, STFU you liberalist, pathetic b1tch!
By Bubba
November 6, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this
Good morning. By God, we need to stop those PETA freaks! What are they trying to do, “save the animals�? It’s my God given right to take my semi-automatic rifle and obliterate all the damn animals I can find. I usually kill about 10 deer, 50 squirrels, 30 ducks, 100’s of birds and a couple dogs for fun each year.
Who are they to say what’s right and wrong? I’m thinking about moving my sights up on bigger game - the two legged kind!
Animals ain’t got any damn feelings. When I shoot one, if it ain’t dead, I plays with it some. I’ll cut off a leg or two and watch it squirm. Now that’s real fun! Hunting’s what makes me feel like a real man. I can’t get it up when I’m in bed with a woman, so killing an innocent animal with a gun from 100 feet away makes me feel macho. Save your Oprah watching, I like killin.
By getalife
November 6, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this
“It was corruption that did the GOP in… . Speaker Dennis Hastert’s son left his music store in Illinois to move to Washington to become the lobbyist for Google. Hastert himself used his position to fund a highway project that had a lot to do with a big profit on a land deal nearby. Then-Majority Leader Tom Delay put his wife was on his PAC’s payroll; she made $300,000… . First the Republicans lost their virtue; now they’ll lose their majority, at least in the House.”
By Peter
November 6, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
HA HA HA……”BY TIME FOR THE TRUTH”………
When intelligent insite is lacking we can always count on a verbal personal attack……..
Gee that is a very Republican trait…….
More “Family Values” !!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA……..
By DebbieDoRight
November 6, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this
Twisted Truth at least I do real men. Not little half men like u. Say hello to your little blow up doll (ronnie for ronald reagan), for me. Don’t forget, you can use the pump.
By Chazman
November 6, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw - do you really believe a court would rule hunting illegal? That’s a stretch. A big stretch. And PETA doesn’t carry that much punch, or respect, to get anything like that done legislatively.
As for the “moonbats” - Bizarre anger? Where do you see that? Most of those first posts regarding hunting are obviously in jest. Oh, I see the bizarre anger you are referring to, it’s this:
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this
Its time that all the stinking dirt-brained liberals STFU! None of you matter in this conversation so do us the favor of staying out! Hell yes I have a right to own 15 guns and shoot whatever the hell I want to shoot! Just make sure your liberal @sses aren’t on my property and you wont have to worry. Cows and pigs were made to be eaten - by me! Keep your liberalist hands off of my damn food! Bunch of no-good liberalist commies!
huge mass-killing smirk
And lets not forget this one also:
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this
Hey DebbyDoEverybody, STFU you liberalist, pathetic b1tch!
Is that the bizarre anger you are referring to? Do you see anything close to these two posts in any of the other posts this morning that resemble that much hate and anger? And Markus hasn’t even entered yet!
Thanks Time For The Trash for your help in making my point to jbmlaw. You come through every time. We can always count on you!!
By History Perfesser
November 6, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this
So… Reagan “won the cold war” by swaggering up to the microphone and saying “Tear down that wall!” and by making a “quip” about bombing Russia in five minutes? WOW! I guess decades of a declining, unworkable economic and social system had nothing to do with the Soviets giving up the iron grip, huh? Hungry people wanting better jobs and a world populace tired of the big standoff-slash-stalemate were just incidental to Ronnie’s big contribution.
By JP
November 6, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this
Getalife, trust me—I am getting out to vote out the phonies we have in office now!
Pelosi said she wants to clean up the “K Street” lobbying travesty. I’m waiting for a Republican to try to spin THAT into some “West Coast liberal” slander.
By getalife
November 6, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this
Kerry can botch a joke and there is outrage and an apology.
W posts how to build a nuclear bomb on the internet in Arabic and not a word.
They say the media has a liberal bias because sometimes they tell the truth. It is corporate media.
BTW, Jim should retire.
By DebbieDoRight
November 6, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this
Comments on the topic:
Michigan: Isn’t it already illegal to have preferential treatment in employment? Or is this an end around to Equal Opportunity?
Arizona: How are they going to tell if the Immigrants are illegal? Voter IDs?
Marriage: Marriage should be between two consenting adults, oh except in Ga. In Ga., a 32 y.o. can marry a 15 y.o. if one of them is pregnant.
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
Dear PF @ 9:33, while much of your post sounds like a tin-hat talking, I think you are affirming that all of the leftist posts this morning are unreasonable compared to my 9:07 arguments. I’ll take that compliment. Frankly, I am not imaginative enough to come up with any of that silly leftist stuff from earlier today, but all of the leftist stuff does sound insane, at least comparatively, doesn’t it? I think Producer @ 8:57 saw the same things I did; well-written, Producer.
By Aquagirl
November 6, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this
Nice to see our Senate prez pro tem is worried about PETA lurking in the bushes. Everyone knows that those PETA endorsements are critical to any candidate in Georgia, you just can’t win without that.
Either this Republican has figured out that the conservative wackos need a new boogyman, or he now can be described by that term usually reserved for liberals, “moonbat”.
But at least he’ll have the endorsement of TFTT.
By getalife
November 6, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this
Thank you JP.
K Street should have been shut down when DeLay resigned in disgrace.
Let us not forget Boner handing out tobacco checks on the floor of the house.
It is legal bribery, pure and simple.
By Producer
November 6, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this
Thanks perfesser. Decades of neglecting their own people by trying to keep up with our military superiority brought them to economic ruin, all capped off by our Star Wars program. They desparately tried to get Reagan to abandon it at the summit in Iceland in 86. Reagan said “Hell no.” They knew they couldn’t possibly keep up! You go 25 miles outside of Moscow and it’s Third World. Captialism wins every time it’s tried!
By getoveryourself
November 6, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
Its time that all the stinking dirt-brained liberals STFU!
TFTT,
When you say shut up, I grow up…when I look at you I throw up!
Let’s see how much more childish we can all be!
By Fed Up
November 6, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this
Hey, you forgot about another thing the Republicans have acomplished. They have managed to leave all children behind with their ridiculous NCLB. Now all children will be able to bubble in answers about factoids for hours on end - only to forget them withing a week. However, don’t expect kids in the US to be able to think their way out of a port-a-potty. Thinking is no longer taught in most public schools thanks to NCLB.
Education is the business of the states and the local governments. NCLB is an unconstitutional expansion of federal power into classrooms.
But at least Neil Bush is getting rich.
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this
Dear Perfesser @ 10:17, you forgot the economic effect of Reagan’s SDI. Ultimately that is what broke the backs of the socialists, although you are fundamentally correct about the cumulative economic effects of decades of socialism. The images of freedom, conveyed by MTV and others, ought not be discounted also. But Reagan’s willingness to challenge communism, as opposed to merely attempt to contain it, was the singular change in philosophy that brought about the swift conclusion. Had Reagan rolled over at Reykjavik, as every one of his predecessors would have, communism would flourish today.
By JK
November 6, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this
Am I wrong to be worried? The HBO documentary running now shows that voting machine maker Diebold has taken lots of money from the Republican Party. The states purchase these machines, so why would a political party be giving money to the manufacturer? Also, the head of Diebold, a big GOP contributor, wrote a letter promising to “deliver the votes for George W. Bush in Ohio” in 2004, where coincidentally, there was quite a bit of monkey business re: the voting and the counting. The Diebold spokesperson interviewed did not even attempt to deny or explain the documented promise.
My interpretation of this information is leaning toward major corruption of our electoral process by the Republican Party, and the possibility (if R’s retain control tomorrow) that our leaders are no longer democratically elected in this country.
So as not to be branded “cynical,” I am open to other interpretations and explanations. Anyone have an explanation of these events that do NOT indicate corruption and subversion? I’m listening.
By Bemused Humanist
November 6, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten;
Once again, for the historical record, the Cold War policy of containment was developed by the State Dept’s George Kennan in the late 1940’s and observed by EVERY president, Democrat and Republican, until the end.
Truman fought the Chinese in Korea and instigated the Marshall plan; JFK brought us to the brink of Armageddon with the Cuban Missile Crisis; LBJ demonstrated “his� manhood in Vietnam … and Reagan spent tax dollars on missile games that didn’t worked and beat up on Grenada.
Containment worked, and desperate to compete militarily and financially with its enemies, Soviet-styled communism ultimately imploded under its own economic contradictions.
Ronald Reagan did NOT win the Cold War. Forty years of American foreign policy won it.
By Chazman
November 6, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this
but all of the leftist stuff does sound insane, at least comparatively, doesn’t it?
Compared to what jbmlaw? TFTT?
By Van
November 6, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw,
The moonbats are out in force because it was the full moon yesterday.
By Peter
November 6, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this
JK……did you see “All the Presidents men last night on TV……..Republicans will be at it again!
By J Smith
November 6, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this
The Republicans and the radio talk show hosts are at it again. Trying to scare people into voting GOP. Now they are trying to say that the people in Iraq are watching the american elections. That makes no sense. How would they be watching the elections over here and why would they care about a Democrat or Republican win if they even know the difference. Thats a stupit scare tactic. Please don’t let these so called conservatives try to use fear to try and get you to vote on them as they always do. Our sercurity can get no worse under Democrats then it is under Republicans now. It can only get better from here. Scaring people is not going to keep people from dying in Iraq nor will it it keeps us safe. We need a plan and action.
By Dim Liberal
November 6, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this
JBM, Tax on oil to fund research on less efficient sources of energy??? Less efficient than oil and gas? Why does it have to be less efficient sources of energy? That sort of disparagement keeps big oil rolling in the big cash, while the American consumer foots the bill. Why not have big oil fund the research? If we can find an alternative source of energy to end our dependence on oil, that is to everyone’s benefit, other than big oil. And what gives you the sense that we will all be vegetarians in a few generations? That sounds like a “moonbat” idea. Maybe a closer reading of your post makes you sound a little insane, doesn’t it?
By JP
November 6, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this
JK - I think we should all be active in favor of a paper trail. I actually saw some Repugs in agreement last week when the suggestion came out that a voting machine company had been bought by Hugo Chavez. Funny how the shoe does fit on the other foot..
Georgia 6: Vote for Steve Sinton!
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this
I see the cowardly id stealing WANKER has been at it again
And some of the usual very naive lefties have been suckered … its actually quite funny watching the pinkos responding to this anally retentive lonely inadequate sad little troll WHOSE LIFE IS SO EMPTY it has to continuously clone my identity. If nothing else it shows just how effective one has been in winding up the pinkos.
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
I see the cowardly id stealing WANKER has been at it again
And some of the usual very naive lefties have been suckered … its actually quite funny watching the pinkos responding to this anally retentive lonely inadequate sad little troll WHOSE LIFE IS SO EMPTY it has to continuously clone my identity. If nothing else it shows just how effective one has been in winding up the pinkos.
By Andy
November 6, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this
Cartoon Idea: Show Dye Brainless at his computer and he’s yelling up to his grandmother from her basement, “Duh, I just posted something good, duh, I really showed ‘em, Granny, duh….”
By Chazman
November 6, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this
105 dead US troops in October.
18 dead US troops so far the first 5 days in November.
Sadly, That’s Bush’s legacy.
By Jim's a Distractor
November 6, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this
Better late than never:
REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA
As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.
That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.
This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.
Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.
On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:
FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;
SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;
FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;
SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
By getalife
November 6, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this
No Van,
It is time to get our country back from the disaster they call the gop.
By sct
November 6, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this
Next year we need to come up with a “Hamburger and Hot Dog Amendment”.
Now that PETA has all this influence with our Republican majority lawmakers, it won’t be long until PETA trys to replace your 100% all-beef patty with a Garden Burger. Maybe a fake wiener. Its already illegal to sell fake wieners in Georgia but that could be overturned by an activist judge.
Please, after the election, contact your state lawmakers. Support for Hot Dogs is support for America.
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this
Dear Bemused @ 10:53, your factual history of containment is valid, but your conclusory statement – that it “worked� – is untrue. In fact, world-wide communism advanced against every US President from Truman through Carter, without regard to democrat or republican. Reagan’s decision to confront communism was the singular change that hastened the end. You surely recall that Reagan’s “joke� angered the Soviets, and that our appeasers trembled. When the Soviets shot down the airliner, Reagan’s government very-publicly – at the UN - challenged the morality of the communists, a step never embraced by mere “containers.� His proposal of SDI – much pie in the sky, but much plausible, and none impossible – horrified the Soviets, who relied on Mutual Assured Destruction as their assurance that they could continue to export revolution throughout the world. When the Soviets offered to give up almost everything in Iceland, Reagan walked away, courageously sealing the doom of communism.
Dear Dim @ 11:25 – both of your questions are fair, and deserve thoughtful answers. Oil is by far the most reliable and efficient source of energy. Most of the alternatives intend to generate electricity only, which is almost useless for privately-owned vehicles. It is characteristic of leftists that they would expropriate wealth from poor-working stiffs to fund their buddies in the alternative energy business. (Or are they planning to use those monies for something other than “research salaries?�) I am always suspicious of those intellectuals who insist they know what we need to do better than our collective market decisions.
As to the “vegetarianism� stuff, I acknowledge that I have no rational basis for that sense; that is why I described it as a “sense� and not as a logical forecast. Just my perception, that our culture – especially those three generations younger than I am – is turning away from traditional diets. I realize that my grandparents ate sheep, now almost totally gone from our diets. There was a time when animal husbandry and meat processing were honored professions, and I perceive now they are regarded with distrust and loathing by much of our society. Not a logical argument, just a sense, which you are fully competent to dispute.
By JK
November 6, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this
JP, notice how no Republican has come forth in over an hour to re-interpret the Diebold thing for me? It seems they have no explaination for the GOP giving money to the voting machine manufacturer (or promising to deliver votes in Ohio) that refutes my suspicion of corruption and subversion of our democratic process.
Van did, however, chime in about the full moon. The moon is full once a month; yet that doesn’t explain the behavior of the Republican Party and the Diebold executives.
BTW, www.stevesinton.com Literally. As in Hall of Fame.
By DebbieDoRight
November 6, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
JK at 10:51 — u r not wrong to be worried. However, judging by what happened in 2004 with Ohio, the amount of alleged tampreing, and how it was swept under the rug without even a cursory inquiry, I’d say u r absolutely right in being worried. However, I also feel that NOTHING can be done about this unless enough people, (of the “we the people” fame), make a big enough noise by protesting can anything be done. Otherwise, nothing will ever get done.
“Watch this shot!” Dubya
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this
As JaD @ 12:07 thoughtfully reminds us of Republican principles, I will remind all of Democrat principles, reflected in their view of our servicemen:
“They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.�
By DebbieDoRight
November 6, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this
Support for Hot Dogs is support for America.
ROFLMAO!!
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this
Crapman
it is utterly contemptible to use the death of troops to sneer at Bush with or blame him for. Its mohammedan fascists seeking to infest the congress with demoNcrats in November that’s driving this upsurge in attacks. They have repeatedly seen in the NY Slimes and other equally despicable anti-Amercian media that the more they can undermine Bush and the GOP the more likely they are to get a weaker, lily livered cut and run demoNcrat congress the better their chances of undermining American resolve.
By JK
November 6, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this
Debbie, if the “vote count” tomorrow does not reflect what ALL the polls (and most of the people I know) are saying about the need to restore checks & balances to the US Congress, then I’ll never believe that our votes are actually counted, or that our Democratic Republic is still functioning as set forth in the Constitution. Never.
BTW, I messed up my link. It should have said, “Steve Sinton ROCKS!”
By Jim's a Distractor
November 6, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw,
That’s great. Testimony from 100 years ago. But as a reminder, John Kerry is not our President and isn’t running for anything tomorrow. But he did actually serve in a real war, which is more than any of the “true Americans” currently serving in the Bush administration can say.
Further, he didn’t produce a document entitled “A Contract for America” that he used to foist a big lie upon the entire country about what he was going to do with his newfound power.
A poster last week referred to it as a document of “lofty goals”. I’m wondering if you, in your capacity as a lawyer, can clarify the difference between a “committment” and a “goal” is?
Oh, and as a reminder, the document was produced by the GOP, not the “Demoncrats”. And the Demoncrats currently aren’t running our government, the GOP is. I’d refer you to the 8.07 am post and be interested in hearing your enlightend opinion about all that fluff.
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this
Dear JK @ 12:22, I suggest you should infer conservative silence at your conspiracy theories reflects nothing more than embarrassment for your embrace of the moonbats.
By JP
November 6, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
Truth, about our resolve—it’s clear that “our resolve” to send just enough troops to do the job poorly isn’t really wining anyone over either, isn’t it?
By Peter
November 6, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
By Time for the truth……..HA HA HA…….so I guess you think the American soldiers went to Iraq all by themselves……
I quess George Bush never started the war or sent them there…….Via the ” MADE UP ” wepons of mass distruction thing…….or Cheney “Never said” that Saddam and 911 were connected……..
HA HA HA……..
Gee the buck doesn’t stop at the top according to you!
By CJ
November 6, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this
In response to the post @12:07, apparently jbmlaw’s point of view is that our sailors, soldiers and Marines aren’t undermined by some in uniform having engaged in the torture, rape and/or murder of civilians. He believes, rather, that our troops are undermined by those who, in an effort to end such atrocities, would report them.
By Dim Liberal
November 6, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this
JBM, thanks for thoughtful answers, but still some questions. Do you consider oil companies and their execs to be “working stiffs”? Surely you don’t believe that the incredible profits of the oil industry are being handed out to the little folks in the oil companies? that money is going to lining the pockets of the execs, not the working stiffs. And do you really consider the people who run California to be “intellectuals”?
By JK
November 6, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this
Lawyer Man, your condescension may work on the feeble-minded, but not on me. I ASKED for an explanation to abate my suspicion, and was offered none. FACT: Diebold received monies from the Republican Party. FACT: The head of Diebold promised to deliver votes to GWB in ‘04, and does not deny it.
If the GOP cared about earning my trust and my vote, then I venture they’d not allow the APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY such as this where there is none. The silence of which you speak feeds my suspicion, not my trust. But then, it appears they don’t NEED my trust if they’ve already recorded my “vote.”
My unsubstantiated opinion: you’re a horrible lawyer and a pompous a—.
By Peter
November 6, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this
Anyone notice the President is at a 35% approval rating……….?????
Anyone notice they are counting ballots in Ohio already……….????????
Anyone notice who is in charge of that………??????
ANSWER…….Republican who is running for Governor!!!!!!!!
By JoeD
November 6, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this
Anyone notice that the entire population of South Dakota voted absentee and are clogging the state’s roads trying to get out of the state by nightfall?
By PJ
November 6, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this
time for the truth: you do not have the right to just shoot anyone on your property. if you think that you do, go ahead, and i’ll have great fun watching your murder trial.
By @@
November 6, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw: At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I’d love some indisputable evidence that Ted Kennedy interfered in Reagan’s efforts with Russia.
Does this make Ted Kennedy a traitor?
So why would I succumb to a moonbat’s tactics of posting “yet to be proven” evidence of wrong-doing?
I’ll claim a momentary left-wing’s weakness.
But with Democrats in the majority, it’ll be a permanent weakness on national security issues.
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
I see Deibold conspiracy theories are in full bloom, fertilized by inaccurate poll numbers which will allow moonbats to say they were robbed on Tuesday…
Peter,
I don’t know which poll you’re looking at, but the Pew Research Poll has W’s approval rating at 41%:
Bush’s job approval rating among registered voters has risen from 37% in early October, to 41% in the current survey. Mirroring the GOP’s gains among independent voters, Bush’s rating among this crucial group of swing voters now stands at 35%, its highest point this year.
By Bemused Humanist
November 6, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten:
Jmblaw @ 12:20 makes the mistake of many of the posters here when he uses a simplistic phrase – “worldwide communismâ€? — that is more suited for a discussion with little old ladies in Dahlonega GA who think Rush Limbaugh is an intellectual than with intelligent adults trying to understand the truth (which is “rarely pure and never simple, “ as Oscar Wilde noted.)
Different forms of Communism made strides after WWII in different places for different reasons. In Eastern Europe it was Soviet domination, of course. However, with the exception of someone like George Patton, there was virtually no American taste for the continuation of a ground war against our erstwhile allies after Germany surrendered.
In China and Southeast Asia, it is safe to say that the principal appeal of Communism was as a reaction to the terrible poverty and injustice that existed in these countries, which, to a large degree, were a product of Western colonial imperialism.
There is a reason that the US cancelled Vietnam reunification elections in 1956 mandated by the Geneva Accords. The US-backed Catholic mandarin Diem would have lost in a landslide the Vietnamese hero who has fought his entire life against foreign domination of his country – the Japanese and the French. His name was Ho Chi Minh, and, yes, he was a Communist in addition to being a nationalist hero in his country.
Post-WWII Communism was hardly monolithic. What does it say about “worldwide� Communism that after Vietnam was reunified in 1975, within a few years it was at war with both Communist China and Communist Cambodia, their historical enemies? For that matter, how could Nixon and Kissinger have exploited the tensions between China and the Soviet Union unless hese “worldwide Communist� buddies were at each other’s throats?
I think you are overrating Reagan’s contribution to winning the Cold War. As I have posted in the past, I believe that the broadcast of the TV show “Dallas� into the Eastern bloc, with its unleashing of repressed capitalist juices, might have been just as important as Reagan’s profligate defense spending in keeping pressure on the Soviets. Shouldn’t you unabashed capitalists give J.R. Ewing his due, too?
By @@
November 6, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this
Rasmussen has Bush at a 45% Job Approval Rating.
By alpha male
November 6, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this
I haven’t seen a butt pounding like the gop is going to get tomorrow since the Emory Docs gave the football physicals to Pope High School last August.
By Chazman
November 6, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this
it is utterly contemptible to use the death of troops to sneer at Bush with or blame him for.
Time For The Crap…..just stating the facts, mam. And I do blame him. He is the one who put them there with no plan for the occupation. He thought the mission was accomplished, remember? From his approval rating (it’s funny to see Buy Danish gloating over a 41% approval rating), it appears there are many more - not just democrats - who see the same thing.
By The Way
November 6, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this
Anagrams are fun. “Benedict Arnold” can be rewritten as “Can Rent Diebold”. (Proof of impending fraud).
You know they would have hanged Benedict Arnold if they had caught him. I like that. I like that they would have hanged Arnold if they would have caught him.
I like that real good.
Real, real good.
By The Way
November 6, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
Did I mention how much I liked the fact that they would have hanged Benedict Arnold if they had caught him?
By Chazman
November 6, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this
From today, November 6th, at 7:51 a.m.
WASHINGTON (CNN) — President Bush’s popularity has dipped to 35 percent, according to a new CNN poll, with 41 percent of likely voters saying their disapproval of his performance will affect their vote in Tuesday’s elections for control of Congress.
Sixty-one percent of the 1,008 adult Americans who responded to the Opinion Research Corp. poll said they disapproved of the way Bush is handling his job as president, according to the survey. The poll was conducted by telephone Friday through Sunday.
By Political Mongrel
November 6, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this
If my understanding of the issue is correct, the actual wording of the hunting and fishing issue has to do with preventing local governments from passing local ordinances restricting hunting and fishing rights. It takes what has been a traditional right to pass local laws tailored for local needs and restricts them under an umbrella law disguised as a means “to protect traditions” instead of calling it what it actually is, a snatch of power away from local governments. It’s another typical example of how these ballot-box issues are disguised. Hide the actual language, wrap it up an a fine disguise, try to make it look like something else, and point to PETA as a threat. Suckers.
By frank123
November 6, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this
California proposes a $4 billion tax on oil to be given for research on alternative energy sources, and prohibits them from passing the tax on to consumers. =Waste of money and will lead to very high gas prices.
Michigan proposes to ban race, gender and other preferences in public employment, contracting or school admissions.= Good.
Arizona would ban in-state student status at colleges for illegal immigrants.= Good.
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this
Wow, @@ @ 1:14, I thought I had heard it all, but that one is new to me. The leftists were incredibly hostile to Reagan’s pointed opposition to the Soviets. Certainly the leftists did everything in their power to undermine the war against communism, but I never heard this. I am staggered, and I cannot offer measured comment. It is at least possibly true. Even if there are letters in the Soviet archives, it does not necessarily prove the genuineness of the documents.
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this
Hey PJ, why dont you bring your sorry @ss over to my property and I’ll show you first hand what my guns and I can do. All I’ve got to do is claim I feared for my life and I can fill you up faster than your liberal self can pray for your god Clinton to save you. So STFU!
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this
Hey PJ, why dont you bring your sorry @ss over to my property and I’ll show you first hand what my guns and I can do. All I’ve got to do is claim I feared for my life and I can fill you up faster than your liberal self can pray for your god Clinton to save you. So STFU!
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this
Crapfilledman
PATHETIC lefty LIAR!!
It is NOT a fact that Bush is to “blame” for any deaths!! Its simply just yet another sick and twisted empty demoNcrat assertion. Its the mohammedan (sectarian) fascists who are doing the killing. I note as usual you slither away from addressing the real FACTS I stated earlier - i.e. the fascists are increasing the killings to affect/sway the US elections. Your leftist intellectual dishonesty is fooking hilarious!!
By JK
November 6, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish, perhaps you could put aside your name calling and bring yourself down to our level for a moment, in the spirit of enlightenment on the blog. I said that information I’ve seen has left me suspicious of the integrity of our election process. If you think I should see things differently and trust the powers that be, why don’t you, in all your wisdom, explain to lil’ ol’ simple-minded me how the Diebold - Republican Party connections are NOT a conflict of interest, (quid-pro-quo) and what O’Dell really meant in his letter of 2004. Surely you, a great self-proclaimed patriot, want us all to unite in our understanding, right? So if you have a moment in your busy day, break it down for us, if you can, without calling names or insulting someone for asking a question. And if you can’t answer the question, perhaps you wait pateintly for someone else to do it. Thank you so much!
By time for the truth
November 6, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this
the NAMBLA type id stealer is still at it … this is freaking hilarious - you can’t beat me in debate or banter - so you continuously steal my id and make pathetic cowardly threats!!
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this
Dear Bemused @ 1:21, that you believe poverty is attributable to “Western colonial imperialism� does not surprise me at all; funny how that is true only of those entities that embrace socialism.
Your use of the phrase “monolithic� communism is an irrelevant straw dog, as the object of my criticism is the ideology of collectivism and the inherent evil that inevitably arises from statism, not any particular country. The distinction is the same one we see today, between perceptions of Iraq and Islamism. I see Islamists as the enemy, and you perceive only that we beat up people in Afghanistan and Iraq; I think the evil is broad, and your focus is narrow.
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this
Befuddled Humanist,
You really believe this?:
In China and Southeast Asia, it is safe to say that the principal appeal of Communism was as a reaction to the terrible poverty and injustice that existed in these countries, which, to a large degree, were a product of Western colonial imperialism.
Didn’t the Japanese have a little something to do with the dire situation in China? In 1945 China emerged from the (Sino-Japanese) war nominally a great military power but actually a nation economically prostrate and on the verge of all-out civil war. The economy deteriorated, sapped by the military demands of foreign war and internal strife, by spiraling inflation, and by Nationalist profiteering, speculation, and hoarding. Starvation came in the wake of the war, and millions were rendered homeless by floods and the unsettled conditions in many parts of the country.
Who marched in next? Mao and his house of horrors. But go ahead, blame “Western Imperialism” like a good Hate America Firster.
By The Way
November 6, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this
CAN RENT DIEBOLD
Benedict Arnold.
U tell me.
Vote Accordingly. Exorcise the GOP from the nations soul food. Exfoleyate the GOP of dead skin(heads) like Andy, RW and the rest of the rabble!
It’s high time!! It’s hang ‘em high time!
I really like that they would have hanged Benedict Arnold from a tree with a rope if they’d have caught the pos.
I really like it real good.
I really, really like it really, really good.
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this
Dear JK, I don’t doubt that you are in earnest about voting machines, but your approach is backwards, asking someone to prove a negative. I cannot prove UFOs do not exist, either, but that is hardly basis to assume their existence.
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this
JK,
I didn’t call anyone a “name”. I pointed out the FACT that you and others (including, but not limited to getalife) are ready to blame your losses on Diebold.
In turn I pointed out that many of the new polls have Republicans gaining, but people like Peter choose to pick the poll with the worst showing for Democrats.
Your sanctimony is amusing, as are your demands that I respond in a matter dictated by you.
By Dusty
November 6, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this
This must be crazy day before the count down!
Liberals are now claiming that Diebold is a devilish invention of voting machines funded by vote-stealing crooks. Indeed.
Shall we return to those horribe hanging chads and punch card voting which Liberals declared were traps set by vote stealing crooks?
So what’s it gonna be? Punch, computers, tapes, swearing in, cemetary records or what? Voting Day is almost here. Liberals better decide on their excuses NOW.
By The Way
November 6, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
If they would have caught Benedict Arnold, whose name can be written anagrammically as “Can Rent Diebold”, they would have hanged him from the highest yardarm. (after keelhauling him).
i like that they would have keelhauled him first, and then hanged him. I like that real good.
Real good.
By Peter
November 6, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this
Hey @@ if the President’s rating is so great……how come Florida’s GOP candidate Charlie Crist doesn’t want him around?
HA HA HA…………..to that approval rating……..
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this
JK,
That should have said, “people like Peter choose to show a poll with the worst showing for REPUBLICANS”
By getalife
November 6, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this
Lou Dobbs, on CNN has been reporting voter fraud due to the voting machines for months.
It is a fact with several watch groups watching the outcome.
There have reports already of flipping Dem votes to the gop.
The makers of these machines test them with their people, software belong them, there is no paper trail. The gop spent millions to implement these machines and they are of low quality. Very easy to hack or lock up.
It is just another gop disaster.
By Ditzty Malloy
November 6, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this
THE PRESIDENT IS VERY BUSY!!!
Our leader has to tend to oh, you know THE FREE WORLD. Good gosh people. Think!
BUSH IS NOT RUINNIG for OFFICE
By CJ
November 6, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw @2:02 “…asking someone to prove a negative. I cannot prove UFOs do not exist, either, but that is hardly basis to assume their existence.”
Sound logic jbm. Now that you mention it, I recall Bush demanding that Iraq prove that they no longer have WMDs. Iraq’s inability to do so was the basis of Bush’s assumption that the WMDs still existed. By your own logic, Bush intended to go into Iraq no matter what the U.N. inspectors concluded.
Now you’re starting to come around.
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this
This is from a left wing website whose members include Gore Vidal, acclaimed murderer and Hollywood hero Mumia Abu-Jamal, Ramsey Clark, and others.
Electionline.org today announced the release of the first nonpartisan and non-advocacy look at the political campaign contributions and lobbying activities of the largest producers of e-voting machines
The report found that voting machine manufacturers have been mostly pragmatic in their political activities, giving money to each party and largely staying out of campaigns in key states considering the purchase of their wares—with two significant exceptions…
Early funding efforts focused on passing an initiative in support of a California bond to fund the local purchase of e-voting machines. Similarly, executives from Ohio-based Diebold Inc. gave generously to national and state Republican candidates.
The report also found, however, that manufacturers have not made significant campaign contributions in states such as Florida, Georgia and Maryland where lucrative contracts were rewarded in 2001 and 2002. Research also indicated no significant home-field advantage for companies seeking contracts with their state or local governments.
Smoke that JK.
http://www.iefd.org/about/index.php
By getalife
November 6, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
“National intelligence director John Negroponte resisted setting up the Web site, the Times said, but President George W. Bush approved the move after congressional Republicans proposed a bill to require the documents’ release.”
National Security?
He posted nuclear bomb instructions in Arabic.
Where is the outrage?
This is not a botched joke.
By JK
November 6, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish, “moonbat” is not name calling? Thanks for correcting me. And you misquote me, as I did not blame the loss on Diebold. I stated that the CEO of Diebold promised to “deliver votes for GWB” in ‘04, a statement he does not deny, and pointed out that there was much confusion over voting and counting of votes in Ohio in ‘04, which is documented history, not my opinion, and not a theory at all.
So many attempts to change the subject, point the finger, identify motive, and spout b-llsh-t legal tactic, but no attempts to answer the question. Perhaps because there IS no good answer. “Why do Diebold records show they received money from the Republican National Party when machines are purchased by STATES?” (Lawyerman, that’s not the same as “I saw a UFO.” The makers of the documentary produced documents not refuted by Diebold.) Also, “What did O’Dell mean by his statement to deliver the votes for GWB, and why did his spokesman say he regrets saying that and promises to keep a lower profile from now on?”
Hint: “Lefties are moonbats” is not an answer.
By JK
November 6, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this
Thanks Buy Danish! (Um, not a smoker, but I don’t mind if you do.) I appreciate an informative link in lieu of pointless insults. This addresses the issue of corporations making donations to political parties. There’s too much of that, I think, but that’s my opinion.
So why did the Republican Party give money to Diebold?
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this
JK,
It happens that I did not call you a moonbat, I used it as a general term for the gaggle of Diebold conspiracy theorists. My post was very short and did not even mention your name.
But since you are being such a freaking whiner, I may as well satisfy your hurt feelings so you can go full speed ahead into victim status.
Here: JK IS A MOONBAT!.
Happy?
Meanwhile, if anyone is interested in a quick summary of what Leftists Democrats believe in their heart of hearts, read this hate American manifesto by Howard Zinn, entitled “American exceptionalism”.(http://www.iefd.org/articles/american_exceptionalism.php)
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this
JK,
That link which I very kindly provided has just about every theory under the sun about how evil Republicans steal elections from Saintly Democrats.
Enjoy.
By @@
November 6, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this
Well Pete, it stands to reason that a liberal would assume Crist’s relocating to another area would be a personal slap to Bush. Crist has it sewn up in the area where Bush was scheduled to appear.
Democratic opponent Jim Davis has chided Crist for not standing up for the unpopular president “when the going gets tough.”
But Crist’s chief of staff, George LeMieux, shrugs off the jibe, saying the candidate already has strong support in the heavily Republican Pensacola area and is spending the final precious hours elsewhere in the state.
I’m betting Bush didn’t take it personally, but it’s so kind of you to take it personally on his behalf.
Thank you.
By Realist
November 6, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
So why did the Republican Party give money to Diebold?
Because Diebold is big corp America, and that is our constitchuncy!!
By Van
November 6, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
JK
I have a question for you. Upon looking over the voting machine in my local precinct, the only connection I saw was to a power supply. Without a network connection or a modem, I fail to see how they can be manipulated.
Can you explain how?
By JK
November 6, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
Hey, thanks y’all! You have totally restored my faith in America, “conservatives,” Republicans, and our voting process. Thanks again for your objective, factual, informative answers! I consider myself so much more enlightened now than I was just this morning. I’m going to go light a candle and church now, and give thanks to God for each of you, BD, jbm, and as always, the handsome Mr. Realist!
THANKS AGAIN, AND GOD BLESS YOU! May all the goodness, truth, integrity, and love in your hearts comes back to you tenfold! Preferably before the sun sets.
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
Dear Dim @ 12:50, I apologize, I missed your follow-up questions.
“Do you consider oil companies and their execs to be “working stiffs�? Yes, but the working stiffs in my commentary are the millions who purchase gasoline, and who will wind up paying the new taxes. Money is totally fungible, and while King Canute can issue his commands, we know who pays those new taxes.
“Surely you don’t believe that the incredible profits of the oil industry are being handed out to the little folks in the oil companies?� Actually I think the incredible profits are being paid out to common shareholders.
“That money is going to lining the pockets of the execs, not the working stiffs.� You offer a polemic, not a question, thus no response.
“And do you really consider the people who run California to be “intellectuals�?� Goodness knows I do not regard the people who run California as true intellectuals, at least not as I would apply that term to particular California residents as Tom Sowell or Milton Friedman. I used the term mockingly, to disparage those people who think they are smarter than the rest of us, such that they think they should dictate how everyone else should spend their money. That is a common leftist affliction.
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this
JK,
What money are you talking about? Money that Congress gave to fix the pregnant chads you all were in high dudgeon about during Sore Losergate?
Try this article from Fortune Magazine dated 11/3 which could go into the “No good deed goes unpunished” category.
Rage Against the Machine. Deep in a corporate nightmare, Diebold is wondering how to shake itself awake. After all, this is a 147-year-old company once headed by Eliot Ness, the storied crime fighter. Internally there is little doubt that the company rues the day it stepped out of its comfort zone and into the maw of electoral politics.
Selling political equipment to politicians is an ugly business - and thanks to lawsuits, lobbying expenses and public relations consultants, the profit margins have been stingy too. (The voting division, which accounts for just 5 percent of the $3 billion company’s revenue, only started making money last year.)
But after a close look at Diebold and its operations, it’s hard to see the company as evil. Naive? Yes
Later…
By Peter
November 6, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this
Well @@ apparently he did take it personaly, Carl Rove said so…..the headline is……
“White House irked that GOP candidate snubs Bush”
He was suppose to introduce Bush at a rally, and failed to show up…….the story states that Jeb Bush had to show up and take his place….
So that tells me you are mistaken…..sorry!
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this
Call me a cynic, but I gather that JK meant to put the /sarc at the end of her 2:57 post.
By jbmlaw
November 6, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this
Dear CJ @ 2:29, you must have missed the news, which I underlined in my 3:14 post Friday. Good try.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 6, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
Van, it doesn’t surprise me you possess only a rudimentary knowledge of computers - I guess you figure the drivel that appears on your screen appears there by magic.
It would be very easy to program the computers to turn every 3rd, 4th, 10th, or whatever Democrat vote into a Republican vote. At the end of the day the number of voters would tally properly, but the votes would have been changed without an audit trail.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 6, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this
Dumbya was upset in FL when Charlie Poofoo Crist stood him up. Since they ran off Jeff Gannon, Tom Foley, and now, his weekly chat partner Reverend H(F)aggard; Dumbya is hankering real bad for some man-man sex.
Quick - bring in Lynn Cheney!
By getalife
November 6, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this
“I know where the numbers are in these races, and I know that they are there for the 15; today (it’s) 22 to 26,” Pelosi said Friday.
Pelosi cautioned that the number of Democratic House victories could be higher or lower and said her greatest concern is over the integrity of the count — from the reliability of electronic voting machines to her worries that Republicans will try to manipulate the outcome.
“That is the only variable in this,” Pelosi said. “Will we have an honest count?”
Nope. Thanks to the gop, following the rules and laws are history.
Lie, cheat, steal and kill should be the gop motto.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
Well the resident Jackal Democrit RATs are off the chain today!
Our usual ID thief suspect jacks TFTT’s ID and talks to itself proclaiming about violence and threatening to shoot someone on private property and hence that’s what all Republicans think and hence that’s why you should vote RAT (as if anything from EITHER side said on this blog is going to help a cause one way or the other).
Other RATs are saying that the diebold machine fraud is going to be the cause of a Republican victory if it happens in the House (I’m not so optimistic). That’s hilarious. This is the same group of lemming mouth-frothers who b!tched about hanging chads, pimpled chads, dimpled chads, pregnant chads, wrongly marked chads and half-@ssed chads from a butterfly ballot that was designed by a Michigan democRAT.
It’s hillarious watching all these Jackals of the Democrit party who just two weeks ago were getting hairstyle updates, picking out their parking lot spots, sizing up the toilet bowls, and getting interior decorator ideas are now suddenly jacked up with the self-backlash of the “what ifs.” That libocrat fishing rod snapped back pretty damn quick.
Kudos to Lizzie Dole yesterday getting the RAT pack all riled up over her comment of the Jackal party being “content with losing the war.” Bloody priceless. And the poisonous atmposphere on Meet The Press was poisonous.
I’ve never seen anything like this in my life. I am really concerned if Republicans DO hold power by some miracle. REALLY concerned. I think these jackasses on the kookbat left will either go suicidal or postal if they don’t win. The sewage those people have crapped on this blog today bespeaks volumes of what’s to come. Either way the results land, I won’t lose any sleep after tomorrow’s results. I’m a successful man with a life, a stable career, and a nice private retirement plan portfolio, and nobody can take that away from me… not even the neoStalinist pigs on the Jackal Left.
By DebbieDoRight
November 6, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this
THIS JUST IN FROM FOX NEWS!!!…..
Latest Presidental poll show that Bush rating is 100%!!!! Take THAT Dems!!!!
THIS JUST IN FROM FOX NEWS!!!!
Latest Presidential poll show that 100% of our viewers believe that Saddam hid the WMDs!!! And we just gotta find them! Take THAT CNN!!!
THIS JUST IN FROM FOX NEWS!!!
Latest Presidential poll show that 100% of our viewers believe that George W. Bush is a war hero!!!! Take THAT Veterans!!!
THIS JUST IN FROM FOX NEWS!!!
The latest polls show that our viewers are 100% more likely to believe in the tooth fairy than any other news viewers!! Take THAT Dentists!!!
By Markus
November 6, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this
Point to ponder:
If the Party of the Jackal Democrits really, really cared about “accountability” in the vote, they’d be for voter ID. Anything less is a Cheech & Chong pipe dream utopia that will only go their way… any other way is damned fraud. This is the mentality from the minions who b!tched about the butterfly ballot and said we need to go electronic. How pathetic.
By Peter
November 6, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this
Hey Marcus the only Rats are the liars running the country and bankrupting it now…….
Well it seems like the FOX network, Bill O’Reilly and Kansas Republican Attorney General Phill Kline is the new dirty Republican problem………..
Talk about stooping to continues lows…..
I do think YOU are right though…..
“If the Republicans DO hold power by some Miracle”
Better get on your knees and do as King George did before invading Iraq…….
“Prayed to his God”……….. I bet he pulled out a few $100.00 bills and started praying!
Just think of all that money he made for his family and Dick Cheney, when he started that war……no real reason to get competitive bidding…….we are “AT WAR!”
Duhhhhhhhh……….
By Tanker Trucker
November 6, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this
THIS JUST IN FROM FOXY NEWS
DebbiedoRight is 100% more likely to bang and blow her brother-in-law while her husband is away in the military!
By Markus
November 6, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this
Get out and vote tomorrow Democrits, the islamofascist terrorists are counting on your vote! Hell maybe they’ll even volunteer to hold your umbrellas in the rain. Uh oh. I can SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL NOW!
“Bushie caused rain in certain polling precincts that supressed Democrit voter turnout who didn’t have umbrellas.”
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
Nancy Pelosi has to have someone to blame if her brilliant campaign strategy of “culture of corruption” failed.
Rage Against the Machine!
By @@
November 6, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this
Well Pete, that was a media headline.
“White House irked that GOP candidate snubs Bush�
I don’t know about you, but I’m always amused by how the headlines reveal nothing of the context within an article.
Hell, it almost makes a person believe that the media intentionally misleads. You see Pete, liberals tend to look at headlines and overlook content. They know how to appeal to the simple-minded.
Kinda like a child who can’t read. They like to look at the pictures and make the story up in their minds. A child’s fantasy world, if you will.
Sadly mistaken. Pete….@@ is never sadly anything.
Always happy. You?
By Van
November 6, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this
Pope rednecks - Amerikkka’s Al Qaeda I,
Actually, that scenario is even more unbelivable.
Since these are used by both democrats and republicans and monitored by both, in most localities, You are suggesting that the voter workers themselves are crooked or in on the scam.
Then by extention, the committees that control the voting process, the folks that decide how many voter machines are delivered, then know before hand which ones to ship to a democratic controlled precinct and which ones to send to the majority republican precincts.
So, everyone from the Sec’y of State on down to the little old lady working there are crooks?
Another question, is if this is happening, how come the democrats are too dumb to find this and expose it, after all the investigations in Ohio in 2005, they did not find any fraud in the vote counts. Even the New York Times claimed the vote as good.
By Grand Old Poof Party
November 6, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
Charlie Crist - running for FL governor - yet another poof!
By CJ
November 6, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw @3:09. You must have missed the point. You said you can’t prove a negative. Bush insisted that Iraq do exactly that, prove a negative — otherwise the U.S. would invade. Good try.
By Praying for America
November 6, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this
Will you please pray with me?
By Peter
November 6, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this
Hey @@ I am a happy independent……..20 years with my own business…….life is wonderful………
Now read what Carl Rove said and I think you will understand!
By Markus
November 6, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this
Peterpumpkinhead-
I’m not the one who’s off the chain today. You liboRATs have that nervousness in your hostility today that is more than I’ve seen since this time in 2004.
In any event, as stated, I’m not going to lose any sleep no matter which way the election goes. If your guys get the House, nothing will be accomplished in the next two years because the focus will be on impeachment hearings for Bush and countless investigations on every Republican from Rove on down. That’s no news to me, even if Pelosiwitch & Liborat Co. wussies don’t have the ovaries to admit it.
By Middle America
November 6, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this
Oh my god, I live in a hick state. Missouri is voting on stem-cell research to help find cures for a plethora of diseases. What is Georgia voting on? HUNTIN’ N FISHIN’!!!!! Jesus Christ, we have morons everywhere. The Constitution (of the US or the states) is not the place for these stupid amendments about every little piddly thing. That’s what we have laws for. Constitutions are for basic rights and what the nation/state stands for. Not so every redneck can shoot a turkey every fall. They are also not for defining marriage. That’s what laws are for. But I guess if our elected leaders are stupid enough to be worried about protecting huntin’ and fishin’, then we can’t possibly expect them to understand the definition of a Constitution. Yeeeehaaawww y’all!!! We live in Georgia!!!
By JoeD
November 6, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this
Anyone notice that the entire population of South Dakota voted absentee and are clogging the state’s roads trying to get out of the state by nightfall?
By Markus
November 6, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this
Spot on comment @@-
“You see Pete, liberals tend to look at headlines and overlook content. They know how to appeal to the simple-minded.”
And that’s what you get with a constituency that wants the government to make every decision for them from cradle to grave, and that’s why the Jackal Party Democrits despise the commonality of the individual. Remember what Hitllary said: “It Takes A Village.”
Just like good little Stalinists…
By Peter
November 6, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
HA HA HA Marcus………seems like you have given up already…….
I do like your way of name calling………it appears you never got away from that grade school mentality in your conversing.
By The Blow Me State
November 6, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
Well Middle Ahmerica, why don’t you take your sorry azz to Mizzurah then
By getalife
November 6, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
The Dems are ahead in the polls by over 10%.
They should win.
We shall see if the voting machines come into play.
My guess is, they will.
By Peter
November 6, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this
@@ and Marcus…….like cattle going to the slaughter……better stick together…….
HA HA HA……… it is great hearing your responses………
Better eat more chikin……….
By Bemused Humanist
November 6, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this
Dear Mr. Danish @1:55:
If you do not know about the unequal treaties imposed on China by Britain, France and other Western powers in the 19th and early 20th Century (Opium Wars, Boxer Rebellion, et. al.), then I can recommend several books to correct that flaw in your education.
If you do know about the history of Western imperialism in China and chose to ignore it because it doesn’t fit you thesis, well then that makes you eligible for a scholarship to the Ann Coulter School of Faux “History.�
I do not hate America and only a stupid and crude individual would infer that from my post. I didn’t realize that you were a member of the Acute Personality Disorder right-wing crowd on this blog. My apologies for not recognizing your true nature earlier.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
Peterpumpkinhead’s comment:
“Hey @@ I am a happy independent”
HAH! Another closet lib “independent” who won’t admit to being a RAT. What is it with you jackasses that don’t want to admit that which you are? I make no apologies of what I stand for as do others on the Right here. What’s up Pumpkinhead, trying to make yourself appear as smarter than others by being a so-called Jeffords independent who never “takes sides?” Boy, there are sure a HELL of a lot of “independents” out there then based upon my blog experience. Cowards.
By Ditzty Malloy
November 6, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this
Don’t forget everyone, the traditional start of the War Against The War on Christmas is Wednesday, the day after the election.
Tune in to Fox News for extensive coverage of the issue.
Oh, and VOTE REPUBLICAN
By Markus
November 6, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this
Pumpkinhead-
“…it appears you never got away from that grade school mentality in your conversing”
Suffice it to say that your pathetic ilk isn’t worth my time of civil discourse. Did I mention that I have zero respect for your ilk? Nothing personal… just politics, like your hero Scream said.
By @@
November 6, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
Well Pete, Rove’s comment is still open for debate. You could be right, but I haven’t heard Bush complain. Bush isn’t a whiner, he’s a move forward kinda guy.
Now, here’s what I’m reading. Somebody…and I’m assuming it was the reporter who fabricated the headline, took it upon himself to interpret Rove’s feelings for him. I always call that projecting.
Rove could have very easily been saying that they’d have to wait and see how many showed up in Palm Springs on short notice.
He might have simply been concerned for the 8 or 9,000 who showed up to see President Bush stump for Crist.
If you can get Crist, Rove, or President Bush on the phone, we can find out how they feel. Not the reporter.
What was that reporter’s name? I don’t recall.
Nevermind…he’s already made HIS interpretation of everybody’s intent.
By getoveryourself
November 6, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this
Douchebag Markus,
Congratulations! You have managed to post 8 times today without saying anything of importance or insight! How do you do it? Is it a skill that only douchebags like you possess? Really, we all want to know!
I really enjoy the whole “Stalin/liboRAT” correlation. Cheers to you douchebag for your highly insightful commentary! Keep up the good fight.
By A Libertarian
November 6, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this
Please, dont call me a Republican!! I hate that.
Question: What to you call an embarrassed Republican in public?
Answer: A Libertarian, please. (The neighbors) We’re L-I-B-E-R-T-A-R-I-A-N-S
**I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN!!I AM A LIBERTARIAN!
If you keep messing with me I might just actually vote for a libertarian tomorrow!!
By hitsrus
November 6, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this
Markus, give me your location, I have a Pizza delivery for you.
By @@
November 6, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this
Oh, and Pete….care to guess what I’m thinking right now?
I’ll help you out by promising you that I’ve got a huuuuuge grin on my face.
By getoveryourself
November 6, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
@@,
Your 4:25 post sounded very Foley-esque.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
This just in from tinfoilhatmedia.org:
“Today several high-flying Learjet 45s painted black with no tail numbers were seen leaving the secretive Area 51 base known as Groom Lake and taking off with pods under their bellys heading east.”
“*One aviation buff who has a website on black aircraft who watches Groom Lake said these aircraft are capable of reaching FL510, or 51,000 feet, higher than most other corporate jets or all airliners, and can affect the weather patterns if iodine pellets are dropped in convection patterns of the easterly jetstream.”
“Nobody knows where these aircraft ultimately went, but several commercial pilots reported seeing small dark aircraft high above them while over Missouri, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and a few other areas where coincidentally several key congressional race states were in play for tomorrow’s elections.”
“Said one pilot witness, ‘I don’t know what that aircraft was doing, but he never checked in to the ATC we were assigned to, and I saw a strange contrail fall behind him that wasn’t from the engines.’”
“Tony Snow refused comment over the aircraft sightings in a press interview today, but already several key Democrats are monitoring weather patterns closely to determine if any unusual rain patterns emerge in time for tomorrow’s elections. Statistics have shown that rain keeps people at home on election day. Stay tuned.”
By Buy Danish
November 6, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this
Middle American Bigot,
Let me get this straight:
It’s desirable to enshrine cloning and embryonic stem cell research into the Missouri Constitution as a “BASIC RIGHT”, but any other Constitutional amendments are unreasonable intrusions?
You sure do want to have it both ways!
By Markus
November 6, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this
hitsrus-
“Markus, give me your location, I have a Pizza delivery for you.”
You wouldn’t make it to the driveway. Trust me on that.
Cute post tho, communist libopig.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
getoveryourself-
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement. Like I give a flying F what you scabs on the left think of me here. I hate to rain on your little commieparade, but I’m not offended by either personal or political attacks for what I stand for by you wingnut libokooks. You sick freaks are dead to me… meaningless… useless.
By Jim's a Distractor
November 6, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
A written committment with no fine print:
REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA
As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.
That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.
This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.
Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.
On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:
FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;
SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;
FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;
SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
By @@
November 6, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this
getalife:
You still have your moments, and you still make me laugh FREQUENTLY. :-)
I forgot to tell you that I sent an e-mail to your old site. It said….
“Getalife…are you out there?” Just for fun. Found it in my address book. It went somewhere. Maybe outerspace.
Did you get it in outerspace?
I’ve got to head out now, so don’t you be talking about me while I’m gone. You hear!!!
By getoveryourself
November 6, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this
Douchebag,
Communist Libopig…..LOL…hilarious! Keep ‘em coming.
Also, what was the point of your 4:33 post? UFO’s…Democrats…high-flying unmarked planes? You must have inteded to post that on the Tekkie forum that you have open on another browser. Live long and prosper Douchebag.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this
There’s the five-year old contract kid again: look at me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me! me!
Anybody got any spare ritalin laying around?
By A Libertarian
November 6, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
Jim’s a cherry picker, whats with this Republican Contract With America?
We’re L-I-B-E-R-T-A-R-I-A-N-S, we had nothing to do with that other party’s contract thingy.
By JoeD
November 6, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this
But, Middle America, you forget that we are the envy of this nation. Or at least of the little nation that occupies the space where Zell Miller’s brain used to be.
By Support the Troops FOR REAL
November 6, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this
Army!
Navy!
AirForce!
Marines!
Voting for some accountability and oversight for these incompetent civilians who run us into the ground would be a GREAT PLACE TO START!
By Markus
November 6, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
getoverthyself-
“Also, what was the point of your 4:33 post? UFO’s…Democrats…high-flying unmarked planes?”
I’m just covering all the bases, so to speak, with you conspirist tinfoil hats on the freak fringe left, that’s all. I leave no stone unturned, especially when ferreting out RATs.
By getoveryourself
November 6, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this
Douchebag,
I am not hitsrus. When I post something at you, I want you to know that it’s me.
And yes, you do care what we think, otherwise you wouldn’t post on this blog and bait people into arguing with you.
Also, if we’re dead to you, then why do you continuously argue with dead people? I like the commie parade line…priceless.
How do you continue to exhibit your superior knack of wit and intellectual insight Douchebag?
By E-Mail Substation
November 6, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this
Dear @@, your e-mail to getalife never got through to him. Our system was the cause of the malfunction. We would now like to pass along that email from you that should have gone to getalife:
Dearest Getalife. I wish I could let everyone in on my big secret, I so want to be a Democrat again. I can’t believe I fell for this cult Republican Cr@p. How do I dig myself out of this hole? How do I tell everyone I’m voting a straight Democratic ticket on Tuesday? Its immpossible to vote a straight Republican ticket, know what I’m sayin.
Pls help me Geta, your so strong and macho. Being around Republican men the last few years, well you know how rare that is. You’re a breath of fresh air.
Love @@
By Markus
November 6, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this
I can’t wait to see how all of these fair-weather “independents” and “liberatarians” will react tomorrow if the Jackal Democrit party wins… or loses. I smell jump-on-the-bandwagon, stick-a-finger-in-the-wind mindless minions not gutsy enough to take a stand on something and only wait to see where the “people” go before making a decision. Kinda like those asshats on 285 who fart around in the left lane until you pass them on the right and then they decide to speed up. Jackasses.
By getoveryourself
November 6, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
Douchebag,
It seems that the most prevalent conspiracy theorists are on the fringe right. Don’t you remember the nuttiest Congressman of them all…the late GOP Congressman Helen Chenowith of Idaho (she liked to be called “congressman”? She was in bed with all sorts of kooky militia types. Tim McVeigh was heavily influenced by the Turner Diaries, a far-fetched, dillusional novel about a vast conspiracy.
I thought that I’d try to help you Douchebag on your crusade against conspiracy theorists. Here’s to you Douchebag and your noble fight.
By Janine
November 6, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this
Mr. W…regarding the amendments you mentionWith the exception of the one about immigrants getting in state tuition, and the one about a tax for researching alternitive energy sources, they all need to be NIXED>…..government getting into places it doesn’t belong……
By getalife
November 6, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this
Told ya the gop will try to cheat
Amazing.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this
getoverthyself-
“I am not hitsrus. When I post something at you, I want you to know that it’s me.”
Go back and re-read my posts and show me where I made that claim. Your very claim that you are NOT said freak makes me know who you are… our resident ID freak.
“And yes, you do care what we think, otherwise you wouldn’t post on this blog and bait people into arguing with you.”
No, I don’t. If I did, I’d engage in civil discourse. What part of that do you not understand?
“Also, if we’re dead to you, then why do you continuously argue with dead people? I like the commie parade line…priceless.”
I thought you just said I don’t say anything of substance? Make up your effin’ mind, poser.
“How do you continue to exhibit your superior knack of wit and intellectual insight Douchebag?”
See above on what I am really concerned about with regards to what you pigs on the left think.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this
getoverthyself-
“Tim McVeigh was heavily influenced by the Turner Diaries, a far-fetched, dillusional novel about a vast conspiracy.”
McVeigh is dead, remember? All you liberals that hated the death penalty so much were sure happy when his @ss went to hell.
But I do like how you and your sick ilk are denying some conspiracy on the election, IF it doesn’t go your way.
Bush jacked oil prices then reduced them for political reasons; Bush let 9/11 happen and blew up the WTC and the Pentagon to get oil in Iraq; Bush timed Saddam’s trial for the election.
Man please. Your pathetic pond scum ilk on the horseass left is the KING of conspiracy theories. I can’t even make up bullsh!t like that.
By getalife
November 6, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
Breaking: Jim Webb campaign files complaint with DOJ
Like that will do any good.
Shees.
By getoveryourself
November 6, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this
Douchebag,
I missread your 4:53 post as directed towards me instead of Jim’s a Distractor. And no, stealing IDs takes all of the fun out of this forum.
Evidently, you couldn’t detect the sarcasm in my admiration of your “commie parade” taunt. I thought that you were a sharp douchebag, but I guess you’re really an idiot douchebag. A real shame…you had so much potential.
We’re here for you Douchebag.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this
Just as a little memory jogger, let’s look at what Pelosiwitch said about taxes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXoqALnV0ok
Then look at her record… lying witch Democrite.
Voted NO on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends. (Dec 2005)
Voted NO on providing tax relief and simplification. (Sep 2004)
Voted NO on making permanent an increase in the child tax credit. (May 2004)
Voted NO on permanently eliminating the marriage penalty. (Apr 2004)
Voted NO on making the Bush tax cuts permanent. (Apr 2002)
Voted NO on $99 B economic stimulus: capital gains & income tax cuts. (Oct 2001)
Voted NO on Tax cut package of $958 B over 10 years. (May 2001)
Voted NO on eliminating the Estate Tax (“death tax”). (Apr 2001)
Voted NO on eliminating the “marriage penalty”. (Jul 2000)
Voted NO on $46 billion in tax cuts for small business. (Mar 2000)
By getoveryourself
November 6, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
McVeigh is dead, remember? All you liberals that hated the death penalty so much were sure happy when his @ss went to hell.
That doesn’t take away from the fact that he was still influenced by the conspiracy novel Turner Diaries.
But I do like how you and your sick ilk are denying some conspiracy on the election, IF it doesn’t go your way.
Bush jacked oil prices then reduced them for political reasons; Bush let 9/11 happen and blew up the WTC and the Pentagon to get oil in Iraq; Bush timed Saddam’s trial for the election.
Neither I, nor any of my lefty friends believe in any of the aforementioned conspiracy theories.
And by the way, you still don’t acknowledge the fact that the late GOP Congressman Helen Chenoweth was the kookiest conspiracy nut of them all in Congress.
But then again. I should blame myself for expecting more out of a douchebag like you…always dodging the facts and hurling insults when you can’t back up your argument. Cheers to you Douchebag.
By Van
November 6, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this
markus,
I place all the leftie conspiracy in the same trash bin as UFO’s and JFK is alive and well.
The left has more theories because it can’t rationalize that no one believes them.
They could not proved voter fraud in 2000, 2002, 2004 and this year will be no different.
THey can whine and cry all day long and they will think everyone is out against them. I guess it is difficult being so far out of mainstream America.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this
getoverthyself-
“I thought that you were a sharp douchebag, but I guess you’re really an idiot douchebag…”
Well I can say with a clear cognizant awareness that I’m happy to disappoint any RAT. And I mean that. Dead is dead, whether whistling past the graveyard or BSing on blogs with the opponent of my ideology.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 6, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this
Marraige in Georgia - one sister, one brother. Or father. Or mother.
Ah, heck. Throw Granny and Gramps in there, too.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
getoverthyself-
“And by the way, you still don’t acknowledge the fact that the late GOP Congressman Helen Chenoweth was the kookiest conspiracy nut of them all in Congress.”
Ok, I’ll concede that point. Point taken. So, that makes the conspiracy score what, 1 to 413 in your favor from Bush blowing up the WTC on down? It’s nice to see you distance yourself from the kooks when called though, as if I really believe it based upon where your ilk hangs around on forums like demonratunderground.com.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
November 6, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this
If a Gerogia redneck gets divorced, will his billy-goat still be his brother?
By Markus
November 6, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
Van-
“The left has more theories because it can’t rationalize that no one believes them.”
You beat me to the punch. Note how finchbrain, et. al. is denying all those conspiracy theories about Bush and 9/11 now. Interesting.
By CJ
November 6, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this
Markus’ 5:41 post says it all —- SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! It’s the one and only issue that matters to his kind.
By Markus
November 6, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this
CJ-
“Markus’ 5:41 post says it all —- SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! It’s the one and only issue that matters to his kind.”
If that’s all you got out of my posts today, then you are not NEARLY as detail-oriented and focused as I thought you were. But then again, you are a leftist.
By JP
November 10, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
Hold on a minute. Rumsfeld is allegedly the guy who threatened to fire anyone planning more than 6 months ahead. Further, he insisted that we go in with far fewer troops than most experts advised—and we all know how swimmingly well THAT has turned out.
Given those two items alone, anyone who thinks “history will be kind” to Rumsfeld has to be an idiot.