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Rice urges teamwork on North Korea

Former President Jimmy Carter had it pegged right. The call’s not coming.

“I don’t think we really need outsiders” who volunteer to negotiate with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il to end its nuclear weapons program, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in an interview Monday. “We talk to people who talk to the North Koreans all the time from the outside, and those are valuable voices. But look at where we are.

“The North Koreans have tested,” Rice said, “but we have a coalition of states that has been working on this problem now for a couple of years so that you have China, probably the most influential country with North Korea, signed on to the [U.N. enforcement] sanctions against North Korea that I think give some prospects that the North Koreans may feel enough pressure that they come back in seriousness to the six-party talks.”

During a panel discussion at the Carter Center this month, the former president suggested his availability to again negotiate with the North Koreans, as he did in 1994. During those discussions, undertaken at the invitation of Kim Il-sung, the North Korean leader agreed to freeze plutonium-producing reactor efforts in return for an easing of sanctions, fuel oil and a light-water nuclear reactor for domestic energy use — an agreement he promptly began to violate.

After his son, the current leader, withdrew from six-party talks and tested a nuclear weapon three weeks ago, the U.N. Security Council imposed sanctions that prohibit delivery of luxury goods, war materiel, spare parts for weapons systems and anything that could enhance North Korea’s nuclear weapons program.

Carter and others argue the United States should agree to North Korea’s insistence on direct talks. “I think as far as North Korea is concerned, they would be willing [to negotiate],” Carter said, “But I don’t think there is a chance in the world that the U.S. government would approve I, or someone else, to go negotiate with North Korea.”

Said Rice Monday: “The reason we don’t have bilateral negotiations is that we have been down that road. The ‘94 agreement, which was worth a try at the time I think, was then violated by the North Koreans. And they had no penalty to pay, vis-a-vis anybody except the United States because nobody else was party to that agreement. So this time, if we actually get an agreement … the parties to it will be China, Russia, Japan, South Korea and the United States. That is a very much more powerful position.”

She continued: “But I really would like to debunk one myth: the idea that we don’t talk to the North Koreans, even bilaterally, within the context of six-party negotiations.

“Back in 2005, the Chinese said to us that the North Koreans wanted to talk to Chris Hill [assistant secretary of state for East Asia and Pacific Affairs]. Would we do this in Beijing in order to get the six-party talks restarted? And Chris Hill had that dinner in Beijing, he and his North Korean counterpart. And then about six weeks later, the six-party talks began again.

“So it’s not that we have not talked to the North Koreans,” Rice continued. “I wouldn’t be surprised if we talked to them very often,” as the United States does one-on-one with the four other nations participating in the talks to end North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. “What we don’t want to do is get ourselves into a negotiation with the North Koreans where it is the United States and North Korea agreeing to something that the other states who have real leverage have no stake in. That’s different than saying ‘Should we talk to the North Koreans?’ We do and we should.”

Rice, for the record, did not introduce Carter’s name. The question was whether there was “a chance in the world” that Carter or some other outsider would be asked to perform any role in talking or negotiating with the North Koreans.

Clearly, as Rice asserted, the most promising approach to North Korea’s nuclear weapons program is six-party talks based on U.N. sanctions. No country in the region, including China, wants North Korea to have nuclear weapons.

China is the key. The combination of a neighbor, friendly but unpredictable, with nuclear weapons destabilizes the region, a distraction for a nation intent on becoming a world economic powerhouse.

North Korea’s nuclear program is not solely an American problem. It’s the world’s — and it’s up to the world to solve it.

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By Dems Rock

October 31, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

IF YOU WANT TO LIVE LIKE A REPUBLICAN, VOTE DEMOCRAT NOVEMBER 7TH!

By jbmlaw

October 31, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I am a great fan of Condi – she may be the only person on the horizon I could support enthusiastically for 2008. Undoubtedly a bright light – her positive argument against bilateral talks makes sense, even without mentioning the history of futility. Hers would be a good hand to have on the nuclear button. Unlike the opposition party, she would not hesitate to defend freedom and punish all external attackers.

To the core issue, time may be on our side, although conventional wisdom says otherwise. North Korea’s supporters, i.e., China and South Korea, are growing weary of the megalomaniac, and all decent peoples are distressed by the mass starvation. North Korea has no money or technology, except what it is given, and has no marketable goods other than armaments. Will the Chinese facilitate arms traffic through their borders?

By JawjaPeach

October 31, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

Way to go Rice-A-Roni!! You and your neocon buddies have dissed North Korea for 6 years and refused to talk with them…thus allowing them to build a bomb right under your nose. Now, you want to make nice? That’s the worst type of “Diplomacy.”

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

Ultimately ALL countries do what is in their interests or what their (oppressive unelected) leaders deem is in their interests - provided no one tries to stop them.

Watching ‘diplomatic’ politicians like Rice parrot essentially the same steady as she goes ‘line’ on most policy areas and global hot spots gets tedious. They rarely if ever never say anything new, or newsworthy - in fairness they usually can’t say much of anything new as their words are also at least implicitly aimed at the diplomatic world they are jousting with. And as we’ve all seen the diplomatic line, especially in multilateral scenarios needs careful crafting before the corrupt appeasers at the UN either ignore or immolate most of what the USA is seeking. Just look at the laughable blatant pandering to Putin the other day in the provisions protecting Russian nuclear commerce injected in the latest UN “agreement” on Iran.

Its not Rice’s fault that the game is played thus. She is a vast improvement on the Clinton appointed liar and incompetent liberal panderer Madeleine NotBright.

By getalife

October 31, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this

Leave it to a Dem to get something done.

Good job President Carter.

There is hope if we vote Dem to get something done.

By @@

October 31, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this

Jim: I’m so pleased that this is the topic you chose for your column. It’s the new “Transformational diplomacy” that is necessary to achieve worldwide stability and Iraq is a part of that goal. Too often we, the voters, see things in limited terms.

It must include military preparedness because at any given moment, and with a change in leadership, such as Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong, the train can jump the tracks that lead towards world stability.

I see it in that familiar phrase “You’re either with us or against us.”

Us meaning the civilized world. Exciting times hampered by growing pains.

Thanks Jim, it was worth the wait.

By Rod

October 31, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

Hey Jim - I notice there was no mention of the fiasco in Iraq. Is that because you didn’t ask or she told you she wouldn’t discuss it? That’s where our U.S. soldiers are dying every single day.

If you two don’t think that’s an important topic, then you’re a prime example of what’s wrong with the GOP.

SAVE OUR SONS NOW!

By Renee

October 31, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

Hey @@, you can get your tongue out of Jim’s @ss now.

By Renee

October 31, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

Hey @@, you can get your tongue out of Jim’s @ss now.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Leave it to a Dem to get something done. Good job President Carter.

THAT WAS VERY FUNNY getalobotomy.

I see maggot brain is cynically trying to goad us conservatives early this morning from its secure NOLA mental hospital ward. It was the demoNcrats who gleefully swallowed N Korean lies and paid them huge amounts of US taxpayers money whilst they pathologically lied to and laughed at the perjuring sexual predator and the dishonest gullible leftist narcissistic peanut farmer.

Yep … leave it to a demoNcrat to get it done wrong!!

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

Renee

ITS TIME FOR YOU TO STOP obsessively ENVYING MONICA BLEWINSNKY!! Your knees are MUCH too old and puffy for that sort of thing!

By getalife

October 31, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

time for the lies,

Jim wrote: Former President Jimmy Carter had it pegged right

Watch him go over there and negotiate.

It will take a Dem to achieve results because the gop are failures.

It will take a Dem to clean up all w’s failures, especially Iraq.

Madam Speaker Pelosi will clean up the House.

By Renee

October 31, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

Come on Jim, give us the real questions/answers from your interview. You know:

(1) Who designed that lovely outfit today

(2) Where do you get your hair done

(3) Are those French nails

(4) Who do you think will win the Super Bowl this year

(5) What is that amazing perfume you have on?

We know these are the only kinds of questions you know how to ask.

By Renee

October 31, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

Hey tftt, you’re up pretty early this morning. Did you actually wake up in your own bed today, instead of at your John’s place?

By Richard

October 31, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

tftt, at least Clinton was only trying to f##k Monica - Bush is trying to f##k the entire country!

By CJ

October 31, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

Jim,

Thank you Jim talking with Secretary Rice about North Korea.

Secretary Rice said, “I think give some prospects that the North Koreans may feel enough pressure that they come back in seriousness to the six-party talks.” As I said before, the six-party talks haven’t worked and won’t work. These talks are only intended to demonstrate that we’re making an effort. They’re not expected to actually have any impact on Kim Jong-il.

With regard to your statement that North Korea promptly broke the agreement previously negotiated by President Carter. Balance dictates that you point out that the U.S. broke the agreement first by delaying shipments of the promised heavy fuel oil that was to be used for North Korean energy needs while the light-water reactors were under construction. These delays by a spiteful Republican Congress in 1996 sent a message that the U.S. Congress did not intend to be bound by the terms of the agreement negotiated under President Clinton. It was hardly surprising that North Korea decided to take the same position in return. This agreement was working until the U.S. broke it…a fact that I haven’t seen reported in the right-wing press (e.g. New York Times, CBS News).

Secretary Rice goes on to say, “…it’s not that we have not talked to the North Koreans,” Rice continued. “I wouldn’t be surprised if we talked to them very often…” This statement is disturbing. Doesn’t the Secretary of State know what’s going on at these meetings? She wouldn’t be surprised? How stupid does she think we are?

She then says, “What we don’t want to do is get ourselves into a negotiation with the North Koreans where it is the United States and North Korea agreeing to something that the other states who have real leverage have no stake in.” Yet another statement intended to mislead out of the Bush administration. We’re the ones who publicly included North Korea in the Axis of Evil. We’re the ones who advertised and demonstrated a pre-emptive military policy. We’re the ones with thousands of nukes pointed out while advertising the fact that we’re fastidiously working on a nuclear shield to keep nukes from coming in. Most importantly, we’re the ones that North Korea wants to talk to. Contrary to Secretary Rice’s silly assertion, we’re the ones with the real leverage.

You were right when you wrote that North Korea is the world’s problem. But you were wrong when you wrote that China is the key. We’re the key. President Bush’s proud, stubborn, arrogant and incompetent refusal to engage North Korea in direct, sustained, bi-lateral talks only allows the world to continue to become more dangerous. If you don’t believe me, ask Richard Perry, Bill Clinton, James Baker, Jimmy Carter, Bill Richardson, Richard Holbrook, Bush 41, Brent Scowcroft and any others who care more about this country than their own persona.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

maggot brain

YOU PATHETIC in denial LIAR

it was sick Willie and the vile narcissist Karter who were duped by the commies and they gleefully revelled in all the liberal media plaudits whilst the Korean commies were sucking up US taxpayer money and UTTERLY IGNORING the worthless agreement the peanut farmer had worthlessly come away with.

By CJ

October 31, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw @8:34 “Hers [Secretary Rice] would be a good hand to have on the nuclear button. Unlike the opposition party, she would not hesitate to defend freedom and punish all external attackers.

Classic jbm. Very nice.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

I see the haggish tranny Renee is predicktably unable to actually manage any kind of witty response so it robotically uses the flogged to death (and you should be renee) rednekkks NAMBLA homosexual gambit.

STUPID DICK … calm down bubba … according to the mohammedans - who are undeniably the world’s biggest fatalists (see the koran for irrefutable proof) - Bush is simply doing the will of allah.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw @8:34 “Hers [Secretary Rice] would be a good hand to have on the nuclear button. Unlike the opposition party, she would not hesitate to defend freedom and punish all external attackers.”

Classic jbm. Very nice.

Yeah yeah … but he got you to bite very easily CJ!!

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

October 31, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Poor tftt/tommy - her mommy left her in her dirty diapers again, nothing to do but drink and blog all day.

What a clueless idiot moron. Why do we Americans have to pay for this British trash to sit around on OUR dole instead of theirs?

People who marry scum like tftt/tommy so that they can become US citizens should be incarcerated.

By Bored now

October 31, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this

ZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzz

Is Troof done whispering sweet nothings in his own ear yet? Fire it off already. You’re boring us.

By @@

October 31, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

Well gosh Renee, you certainly are limited in thought. You appear to be prompted towards some oral/anal fixation.

Noteworthy? Not from this girl’s perspective. But it probably plays well with your liberal cohorts here.

Have a great day doing whatever it is you do.

By getalife

October 31, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

Vote Dem to save your children from the gop

By Jim's a Distractor

October 31, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

Morning Jim,

So by “outsiders” do you suppose she means people like Kissinger? Because he seems to be heavily involved in their other “problem”. Or do you just supposed that she’s referring to folks that the administration does not agree with? Kinda like how fraternities exclude people who don’t look like them?

And why do you suppose that we’re so intent on making this a bi-lateral situation now (with respect to global participation), when we were so dead-set on excluding “outsiders” during the run-up to the Iraq crisis?

And on the Condi quesiton…Please run for President Mrs. Rice! I would like nothing better than to vote for a black lesbian to be leader of the “free” world.

By MELO

October 31, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

North Korea has no money or technology, except what it is given, and has no marketable goods other than armaments. Will the Chinese facilitate arms traffic through their borders? jbmlaw or blojob(which is which?)

Ur intelligence is wrong? Remember you have been consistently wrong on Iraq and Iran and North Korea is much more secretive than those two combined. And the USA insists on these 6 party talks, trusting Russia and China to be honest brokers on USA behalf, give me a break!! USA will wake up one day to see a united CHINA,RUSSIA AND NORHT KOREA all with nuclear weapons and ready to be part of a new powerful force to buffer against USA hegemony. Trust Putin and China at your own risk.The way those 2 are extending their influence in Europe, Africa and Asia, you got be fearful!

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

I see I was YET AGAIN able to effortlessly goad the resident human scum like NAMBLA out of its bipolar homosexual stupor and post its usual mirthless envious bigotry of its conservative betters.

BTW NAMBLA you aint an American - STOP LYING … you’re a TB ridden lice infested illegal immigrant Mexican leaf blower from Chihuahau!!

SOD OFF BACK HOME ALREADY!!

By Condi - Rummy Love Song

October 31, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

Generals gathered in their masses, just like witches at black masses. Evil minds that plot destruction, sorcerers of death’s construction. In the fields the bodies burning, as the war machine keeps turning. Death and hatred to mankind, poisoning their brainwashed minds. Oh lord, yeah!

Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah.

Time will tell on their power minds, making war just for fun. Treating people just like pawns in chess, wait till their judgement day comes, yeah.

Now in darkness world stops turning, ashes where the bodies burning. No more War Pigs have the power, Hand of God has struck the hour. Day of judgement, God is calling, on their knees the war pigs crawling. Begging mercies for their sins, Satan, laughing, spreads his wings. Oh lord, yeah!

By Troof

October 31, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

wank wank wank Ohhhhh, how I love meeeeeee… Lalala lala lalala….. wank wank wank

By John Mark Karr

October 31, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

I’d like to meet tftt’s spouse - if she’ll marry him she’ll marry me too.

By Redneck Convert

October 31, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

The Revrend Jim Bob Buice says we are still at war with North Korea, since we never signed a peace treaty. So I say bomb them little trouble-makers back to the stone age. You can’t be making A-bombs if your country is a smoldering heap of cinders. And it’s our Christian duty.

Keep that old librul Carter out of this. Let Condi Rice do all the talking for us, even if she is one of Those People. And what is it with my hero GW Bush appointing Those People to big positions? Another one of Those People was Secretary of State before her.

Well, gotta go. I gotta make beer deliveries to about 30 places today. The biggest thirst seems to belong to the people that attend the Baptist churches and the church of God.

Remember, Keep Satan Out of Your Life—Don’t Vote for a Democrat. And y’all leave my man/woman TFTT alone. He/she can’t help being gay. Some of you are real good at stirring him/her up and getting him/her mean real early. Now he’ll be calling people names all day.

By Jim Wooten

October 31, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

Rod @ 8:59: Actually we did talk about Iraq and some other subjects and I’ll be offering those up in the coming days.

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

tftt, at least Clinton was only trying to f##k Monica - Bush is trying to f##k the entire country!

So true……

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

rednekkk NAMBLA’s homosexual bipolar disorder is certainly driving its bilious envious hate speech today!!

I guess rednekkk’s is manically depressed now that its true soul mate JM Karr has left metro Atlanta. So rednekkk’s desperately and angrily lashes out at all those who naturally despise it for its psychotic NAMBLA tendencies.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

lets hope rednekkk convert crashes its beer truck into NAMBLA’s rusting pink pimpmobile and the two of them (and no one else) are charred to a rednekkk cinder.

By getalife

October 31, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

I wonder what Rice thinks about Al Sadr’s power in Iraq.

I think they are still the enemy and not our friends but Iran’s friends.

All the lives and money wasted and has made more terrorists.

Vote Dem to stop the waste.

By getalife

October 31, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

True, time for the lies should be deported or get a job.

Wanker.

By Renee

October 31, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

HAHAHA, it’s so easy luring tftt into combat. Quite pathetic, actually.

huge Democratic smirk

By JK

October 31, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

Why does the headline say “Rice Urges Teamwork,” and then the lead off quote is, “I don’t think we really need outsiders.” Hmmm…

Not much of a discussion today. I look forward to reading the portion of Mr. Wooten’s interview where he asked Sec. Rice the really tough questions about Iraq. For example: “Who exactly is manning the oil pumps, where do the pipelines go, who gets the oil at the other end, who processes and sells it, and where EXACTLY is that money going, and when is that money going to pay for the occupation like the American taxpayers were promised?” Oh, and “Why is it such a big secret?” You know, questions like that.

By Bemused Humanist

October 31, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

Dear Mr. Wooten,

Even by the distended metrics of the Bush administration, where evaluation of competent performance has swollen to include sheer ineptitude, Ms. Rice is an abject failure.

As NSA chief, she completely ignored warnings of imminent terrorist attacks within the US, preferring to concentrate on the area of her academic expertise: Russia. Russia.

One of her most important job tasks as head of the NSA was to coordinate intelligence on vital issues such as Iraq. She failed miserably at it, allowing Cheney and his incompetent neo-cons to eradicate countervailing views from the State Dept and elsewhere as to the presence or absence of WMD’s in Iraq. (Perhaps Bush, with his penetrating intellect and virtuosic ability to distill and comprehend nuance in complex issues, might have acted differently if she had been able to do her job with any skill whatsoever.)

And, of course, as Secretary of State, she has yet to produce one foreign policy success, one diplomatic breakthrough, in two years. Nor has she stemmed the growth in world dismay and disdain at our international actions.

In short, Ms. Rice is to foreign policy what “Brownie” was to hurricane relief.

Ironically, had she been working for a Democratic administration, your right-wing blog friends — both the civilized ones and the crass, puerile name-callers — would be writing that she is totally inept and only got her job because her race.

Finally, if I may, I suggest that you not let her know of the existence of this blog. While I disapprove of her performance, I consider her to be intelligent and well-meaning, and an individual who comports herself with dignity at all times. The fact that you have allowed a torrent of inane, ignorant, stupid, vicious abuse by a handful of sociopathetic juveniles to thrive here unchecked would no doubt pain her and cause her to question your competence.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

keep choking on the leftist kool aid reneee

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

leftist traitors like you maggot brain should be forcibly deported to Cuba or Chavez land.

Nice to see you now sign your posts “wanker”.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

Question for all the demoNcrats

What will you all do next week if you lose the election and dont take back congress and the liberal run polls all show that either the polls were wrong, there was a liberal bias in the sampling etc?

WILL YOU TAKE YOUR LATEST DEFEAT GRACEFULLY AND STOICALLY? …a cunning trick question of course — liberals will never ever do that

I’m betting that if you lose (i.e. don’t win congress) you default to the despicable cheating that AlBore tried and FAILED WITH because the actual votes by the people were against him — albeit narrowly!!

By getalife

October 31, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

This is why tftt is tftt

We should deport this leach.

By getalife

October 31, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

This is how the gop will win

If not, they will fight it in court.

The deck is stacked to create the new North American Union.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

Melo

no one (except maybe Carter who happily no longer counts) trusts China or Russia - but other than a massive war which would likely (and swiftly) degenerate into a nuclear or some kind of WMD conflagration there isn’t too much any nation can directly do to contain them. The chances of either China or Russia actually directly militarily challenging the USA (at least on home soil) in the foreseeable future is low. Geography and economics are “on our side”.

The 6 party talks are simply a pragmatic ruse by Bush to shut the left and Euros up after Klinton and Karter botched it so badly a decade ago. The USA can’t stop N Korea by itself.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

maggot brain

At least do me the honour of spelling your effete insults correctly, a leech is not a leach.

What’s left of your treasonous, badly atrophying brain has been superbly leached by leftist kool aid and you urgently need a leech treatment to at least try and rectify the leaching.

Hope that helpful use in a sentence or two helps you “get” the correct use of the two words.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

@ bewildered humanist

Your “name calling” is decidedly puerile and vituperative, albeit perpetrated with slightly more rarefied (i.e. fewer sententious idioms) vocabulary than the typical bipolar homosexual Bush hate themed ranting of rednekkks and its far left crew.

Clearly supercilious pompous pinko tw@ts like your self equate highbrow abuse with erudite critique - but sad to say bubbaturd you’re just a sad little tosspot!!

Your plebian leftist dissembling in your final paragraph is very very funny though and for that many thanks … now please f—-off!!

Thank you so much!

By getalife

October 31, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

Okay, welfare money sucking tick.

Back to England with you, slimy limey.

By Rod

October 31, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

Hey tftt - at least study your history a little before rattling off your lunacy. In your 10:41 AM post, you blasted Carter and Clinton (I know you’re to dumb to realize those are C’s instead of K’s) for a treaty they reached.

Treaty reached - problem solved - peaceful times.

UNTIL the Republican Congress broke the treaty in 1996 (YES, the US broke the treaty) and forced N. Korea into other avenues which included nuclear arsenals.

You’re such an idiot - and you prove it every time you open your tooth-decayed British mouth.

By Rod

October 31, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Hey tftt - at least study your history a little before rattling off your lunacy. In your 10:41 AM post, you blasted Carter and Clinton (I know you’re to dumb to realize those are C’s instead of K’s) for a treaty they reached.

Treaty reached - problem solved - peaceful times.

UNTIL the Republican Congress broke the treaty in 1996 (YES, the US broke the treaty) and forced N. Korea into other avenues which included nuclear arsenals.

You’re such an idiot - and you prove it every time you open your tooth-decayed British mouth.

By Renee

October 31, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

Sounds to me like tftt got her panties in a little bunch, poor baby.

You better start pulling those panties down now honey, your Sugar Daddy Osama is cuming over for his usual!

By Renee

October 31, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Hehehe, I like that:

tftt with a tooth-decayed British mouth.

I’ll have to remember that every time tftt says “smirk”.

Hehehe

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

One of her most important job tasks as head of the NSA was to coordinate intelligence on vital issues such as Iraq. She failed miserably at it, allowing Cheney and his incompetent neo-cons to eradicate countervailing views from the State Dept and elsewhere as to the presence or absence of WMD’s in Iraq.

In all fairness to Dr. Rice, I read where she was virtually “ignored” in her position as National Security Advisor from the onset and was given no real power to make changes. At first I had discredited this as Bush Sh#t, however after 9/11 when they created a post for Homeland Security that’s when all the pieces fell into pace. National Security and HomeLand Security are the SAME THING. Why create another post, place a male in the position, and give that male more power than the female in the exact same position?

I have no idea why she stayed on after that except maybe because she has a genuine affection for Mr. Bush.

By Richard

October 31, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

Hey tftt, does spit spew from your mouth when you try to talk with that tooth-decayed British mouth, mate?

(full tooth filled American smirk)

By Markus

October 31, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

John F’n Kerry shows his JACKASS like a good little RAT. This is the epitome of the arrogance, disdain, and sheer contempt that the modern horseass left has for Average Joe and GI Joe. sKerry said that if you study hard, you can be “smart” and if you don’t, you will be stuck in Iraq.

Isn’t that special? Here we have the Party Of The Jackal Democrits telling the Right that we are politicizing everything from the war to terrorism, and one of their own does the same thing insinuating ‘stupid uneducated troops’ to make a point about being “stuck” in Iraq.

Of course, the jackass liberal mainstream media will let this slide. If a Republican had said this, all hell would have broken loose. But, who really gives a RAT’s @ss what sKerry said. This is the same man that won’t release his medical records (Form 180) to this day even after getting smacked by the Swift Boat Vets, and this is the man that threw his alleged medals over the White House fence, but not his ribbons… or was it not his medals but his ribbons… or were they someone else’s medals… or ribbons?

The bottom line here is that the Jackal Left doesn’t REALLY care about the grunts in both the military and in public. Just give ‘em a rope long enough…

Thanks John F’n Kerry, you sad pathetic miserable arrogant buffoon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

I see the semi-retired (on health grounds) 50cent hooker renee is peddling more of the hypocritical lefty nationalistic bigotry …

I note renee prefers bin landen to clinton -at least that way renee will stand a chance of being mistaken for a bearded nanny goat in a dingy dripping wet Afghhani cave rather than a very fat plug ugly intern with a love for cheap cigars and puffy knees.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

actually STUPID DICK that coincidentally only happens when I’m happily gobbing on smug leftist American arsewipes like yourself.

toothless envious yankkkee scum smirk

By Rod

October 31, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

I like JK’s 10:14 comment: Why does the headline say “Rice Urges Teamwork,” and then the lead off quote is, “I don’t think we really need outsiders.”

Nothing but the GOP trying to keep to themselves. The only “team” they want is themselves. Well the GOP team is already losing this one big time - they need to call in a Democrat to save the game (and world).

By Richard

October 31, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Hey Markus - Kerry’s not the one leaving the US soldiers over in Iraq to die - that’s Bush1ts doing.

By Markus

October 31, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

DIEbold vote machine fraud!

Snapping snarling German Shepards roaming vote pricincts!

Black voters frightened by voter ID!

Old people stuck at home in wheelchairs ala Katrina!

Republicans spooking Democrit Jackal voters into voting on Wednesday instead of Tuesday!

Gargoyle-guarded police roadblocks!

Mass hysteria and pandamonium confusion at the vote booth!

MIA Jackal Democrit leaders like Pelosiwitch and Scream!

No, this is no Halloween Horror Show. This is next week’s 8FREAKSHOW* that the Jackal Party will be drumming up should they not gain the power they were hoping. Remember, the Jackal Democrit Party can never accept responsibility for something that goes wrong on their watch… it’s always someone else’s fault.

By Renee

October 31, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Ugh, got some spit in my face on that one when tftt started talking through those tooth-decayed British teeth.

Seriously, tftt, you need a pacifier or something to hide those things.

By Markus

October 31, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

Hey DICK-

sKerry just showed us how the RAT Jackal party really thinks of US servicemen. HE said it, jackocrite liberal.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

seriously renee you need to get that chronic facial herpes treated - every time I see your posts there’s this vile smelly liberal puss oozing from the screen … try using a liquid nitrogen face pack !!

By Richard

October 31, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Markus

Kerry “said” something. Bush is killing soldiers.

Personally, I think killing’s worse.

(oh that Dick comment was hilarious - did you come up with that one, or your 7 year old child?)

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

spit

By Markus

October 31, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

Hey DICK-

You miss the point, jackhole liberal. What sKerry said was ARROGANT and against those that are serving who didn’t go to college. PERIOD. But of course, I don’t expect your pathetic neomarxist terrorist-loving RAT @ss to see any difference anyway. You Democrit Jackals are all equally pathetic. BTW, I’ll call you damn well whatever I please… I don’t like your ilk.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

you always know when the lefties are losing - they resort to puerile id stealing.

and STUPID DICK - that’s exactly what you are - its not hilarious or clever, or even a bad ‘pun’ - its merely a (borderline tautological) statement of the obvious.

By R Cagle

October 31, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Nope - this not a world problem. It is solely an American problem because no one in the rest of the world is going to lift a finger to do anything constructive. Regardless of how we got to this point (Carter/Clinton stupidity or Bush’s lack of action - pick your favorite) it is up to us to force something to happen.

It is correct to say that China is the key, but for different reasons. They are key because they are North Korea’s largest trading partner and primary supporter. Pull those and North Korea folds. They are key because they fear Japan gaining the bomb more than they do North Korea having it. Interesting opportunities and prospects.

We - America - must find a way or it won’t happen. It is just another sign of the times in which we live.

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this

Bush jokes about search for WMD, but it’s no laughing matter for critics

David Teather in New York Friday March 26, 2004

A slide showed Mr Bush in the Oval office, leaning to look under a piece of furniture. “Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be here somewhere,” he told the audience, drawing applause.

Another slide showed him peering into another part of the office, “Nope, no weapons over there,” he said, laughing. “Maybe under here,” he said, as a third slide was shown.

By Richard

October 31, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

Markus, I see you don’t have the balls to answer the question. Bush must have castrated you along with his Congress.

Kerry “said” something bad. Bush is killing soldiers. Killings worse - duh.

That’s precisely the point.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

actually ritalin Debbie that is quite funny … not as hysterically funny as two grudging petty concession speches by the alBOre and then Kerry - but still funny.

the critics should just STFU …smirk

By CJ

October 31, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this

R Cagle @12:41.

You’re correct when you say that China is key. However, China isn’t the key as you and Jim write. We are.

China has the leverage and motivation you described, but Kim Jong-il is developing nukes to protect himself from us. We need to be having direct, bi-lateral talks.

By Dim Liberal

October 31, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

the critics should just STFU-yes, that’s the ticket. That’s what made America great. What a stupid thing to say. Let’s mindlessly and meekly follow our Beloved Leader over the cliff. Good idea.

By Think before you vote!

October 31, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this

What really happens… It’s in your hands.

By getalife

October 31, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

Vote Dem to support this resolution:

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That—

(1) the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System;

(2) the United States should not enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada; and

(3) the President should indicate strong opposition to these or any other proposals that threaten the sovereignty of the United States.

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Twisted Truth: What does STFU stand for? Still Tranny For U?

By R Cagle

October 31, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

CJ@1:08

My comments do not exclude bi-lateral talks. I’m just saying that the US has to take the lead (with or without the rest of the world in tow), and that the best and quickest tactic is pressuring China to lean on North Korea. In the end it comes down to which relationship China values most, the one with the US or the one with North Korea, and the possiblity - however remote - that Japan goes nuclear.

And I have to disagree with you about North Korea building the bomb because they fear us. We haven’t attacked them in in over 50 years and would have no reason to now execept for the fact they have built the bomb and the possiblity of them exporting the technology. Why would reasonable leaders do the very thing that could lead to what they supposedly fear the most? Gotta believe that they built it because they could, because it annoys us, and because they knew China, who could have, wouldn’t stop them.

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

And I have to disagree with you about North Korea building the bomb because they fear us. We haven’t attacked them in in over 50 years and would have no reason to now execept for the fact they have built the bomb and the possiblity of them exporting the technology. Why would reasonable leaders do the very thing that could lead to what they supposedly fear the most?

I think Bush’s “Axis Of Evil” rhetoric may have done the trick.

By JK

October 31, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

Debbie, it means please close your speaking orifice, with an expletive inserted, or more specifically: “My tiny little malnourished brain can’t handle facts or reason, and my brain hurts trying to wrap my cognizance around it, and I want you to please stop talking now and be vewy vewy quiet because I can’t handle the twuth.”

By Van

October 31, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Now there is something we can agree on, no Superhighway System.

Unless, of course, we can make it a toll road and charge an arm and a leg to use it.

How do you like the Mexican Customs station in Kansas City, we built it for them.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

ritalin debbie and feminazi hag JK

Mindful of the Halloween spirit, as I know wizened dried up flatulating witches like you two are very busy on your broomsticks and just too hyper to (note clever accurate usage there moron rod) get back to the kitchen and stay where you belong, very generously -just this once - I’ll share with you uber dumbarses the meaning (and glorious intent) behind said acronym.

Shut The F— Up.

now if used STFULS - the L fairly obviously stands for Liberal/Leftist and the S stands for say Scum or Shhhhiii with a little t on the end.

there now … simple enough really when you strip away YOUR horrendous leftist ignorance.

so lets practice reading that now loveys … slowly now …

ritalin Debbie STFULS … the final “s” here means scum

and Feminazi JK STFULS - means Shi…

By Rod

October 31, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Hey tftt - what does that sound like, you saying STFULS while spitting through those decaying British teeth?

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

October 31, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

I think we know who wears the pants in the tftt household, and it ain’t tftt/tommy.

By HaHa!

October 31, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

TFTL = Time for the Lithium. Does Nurse Ratchett know he slipped out again?

By Van

October 31, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

Re: your 2:28 post.

I do not think a comment by anyone would prompt Kim Some Ill in the head to build a bomb.

Which State of the Union did the Pres say that - I can’t remember.

But I do know it was in 2002, when our governemnt questioned North korea about there nuclear program and they admitted they were violating the Clinton/Carter agreement.

How disarming - Yep, we’re ignoring it - Yep.

By Van

October 31, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

DebbyDonotsoright -

Here is the link

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

wanker rod … most Americans already have chronic penis envy with us Brits but to have teeth envy - that is really sick. I kindly lent you my spare set of wooden choppers and look what you did to them you filthy American bastard.

we certainly knows who always wears the DRESSES AND SKIRTS in rednekkk NAMBLA’s house … and it aint NAMBLA’s husband!

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this

Twisted Truth: Don’t get mad at us because you’re a lonely, twisted, sad person — you are so twisted by hate and ignorance that u spew venom everytime they open ur fangs.

What a strange sad little man you are. U remind me of that old Beatle’s song, “Nowhere man sitting in your nowhere land.”

By tabitha rottingtwat

October 31, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

I think the hypocrite Kerry should STFU!!! How do you rant constantly about the pride of having served our country, and then make the comment that those not able to get a college education are “stuck over in Iraq”. What a slap in the face to our service men and women by the leftist joke of an as*hole John SKerry…..

This is your party democrats!! Hypocrites, liars, murderers, thieves, and low down bast*ards like Kerry. You should all be sooooo proud!!

Vote GOP! Don’t fall for the demoncrat lies!!

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

October 31, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

What kind of person would demean themselves by marrying a wanker like tftt/tommy?

Pathetic.

Only in Georgia, or the Australian bush.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

ritalin Debbie

you are indeed one very silly, sad cow … all I’m doing is winding you up, using amusing imagery and witty banter and you keep on biting and biting and biting - every day!!

Your leftist gullibility sure is hugely amusing.

You eagerly hand out abuse but yet get very uppity when it comes RIGHT back at ya. Typical liberal hypocrite!!

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

Twisted: I’m re reading some posts made to u and it seems someone is under the impression that you’re a girl. U R A GIRL??!!! My god! My apologies for the remarks I made then. It’s bad enough to be an ignorant lonely man, but to be an ignorant, lonely, PMS prone, Middle-Aged, unwashed, post menopausal, screeching, harpie……..whew!!!…….

Good luck with finding a husband!! (I suggest you try the zoo)

By Dim Liberal

October 31, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

The statement was botched. Kerry’s prepared statement was “I can’t overstress the importance of getting a good education.Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.” Clearly supposed to be a shot at the President, but botched up in the GWB tradition.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

rednekkks NAMBLA is getting ever more spiteful now its soul mate JM Karr has left Atlanta and chosen another life partner!!

Them there pooftah wedding bells in Assachussetts are getting more and more distant rednekkks … never mind eh? try playing Leonard Cohen’s Dress Rehearsal Rag on constant iPod repeat.

By Miller Hebert

October 31, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

Are you people infants? Where does Wooten say that HE interviewed Rice? He reads the papers and watches TV news like everyone else. That’s where he gets his quotes. Giving ol’ Hazlehurst credit for a little more weight than he actually pulls I think.

By toady sprocket

October 31, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

Kerry is a botched abortion is what he is…..fu*cking long faced POS

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

ritalin Debbie - I was extremely sad to hear that your experimental HRT treatment has gone horrendously wrong again … hopefully you wont find it too hard to find a dried up skank role model to help you through this very difficult time. There’s going to be thousands of them at the Philips Arena on Thursday night I understand. Good luck honeybunch.

By R Cagle

October 31, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight @ 2:28

So as long as we ignore those who threaten us and don’t say anything bad about them, then they will want to live in peace and harmony with us? Typical liberal nonsense. Besides, you have the cart before the horse: North Korea was well on its way to producing the bomb when Bush made that statement.

By Middle America

October 31, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

To be honest, a nuclear North Korea does not worry me in the least. As unbalanced as Kim Jong Il may be, he’s not suicidal. He knows that having a few nuclear weapons gets him a better negotiating position, maybe not immediately, but eventually. He also knows that having a few nukes does not make him capable of standing toe to toe with the United States. He fires all his nukes, kills millions and then he and all his fellow North Koreans cease to exist for eternity. He has 7-10 nukes, the US has tens of thousands. Game over. Or he sells his nukes to terrorists. The terrorists detonate one in a US city. We investigate, determine it was a North Korean nuke, and they cease to exist. Mutually assured destruction was a powerful concept for prevention of a first strike. But when a first strike only ensures your own destruction, you definitely won’t pull the trigger. I’d even let it slip that if any nuke gets set off in the US by terrorists, we might just assume it was North Korean and retaliate. Iran is a different story. The radicals there aren’t afraid of dying. So you’re dealing with a different animal. However, I doubt the government of Iran would like their entire nation to be wiped off the map, which is what would happen if they were to use a nuclear weapon on the US or Israel. In the end having nuclear weapons makes most governments more responsible members of the international community.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Kerry is a botched abortion is what he is…..fucking long faced POS*

POST OF THE DAY SIR … flawless - factually and logically.

By John Karr, Georgia's Finest

October 31, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

I think homosexual marraige is disgusting. I’d like to find a nice 7 year-old girl cousin to wed. Just like the not-so-long ago days in Georgia.

TFTT is mad at me because I spurned her for a younger woman.

By John Karr, Georgia's Finest

October 31, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

tftt/tommy is taking testosterone supplements - orally.

And by suppository.

By CJ

October 31, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

R Cagle @2:21,

I think we only differ primarily in emphasis.

I agree that pressuring China is important…extremely important. Unfortunately, I don’t believe such pressure will bear any fruit. Our economy is highly dependent on China on so many levels, not the least of which is the amount of our public debt that they hold. As a result, we have little or no leverage. I think China’s going to do whatever they perceive to be in their best interest, regardless of what we want.

You’re right about China’s considerations, but you left out their concern of getting a flood of Korean refuges that could result from sanctions. I hope China will do the right thing, but based on recent history, there’s no reason count on it. There’s also no reason we can’t have bi-lateral talks with North Korea (which I know you’re open to) and work with the regional players at the same time.

DebbieDoRight was right at 2:28. It’s fair to say that the Axis of Evil speech, our subsequent actions in Iraq and further noise regarding Iran has not assuaged Kim Jong-il’s paranoid tendencies. And, I don’t think anybody would claim that a man who mercilessly starves millions of his people is reasonable.

Also, we went into Iraq when they weren’t developing WMDs. Correct or not, the perception in North Korea (and frankly, around the world) is that if the U.S. wants to attack, we’ll attack…regardless of the evidence (or lack thereof) supporting our reasons. There’s also a contingent of Americans (take jbmlaw for example) that believe we should just push the button and be done with it. North Korea knows that such people have representation in the White House and Congress.

I want to emphasize again that, contrary to popular opinion, the Carter/Clinton agreement was working. The agreement was broken by us in 1996 when we failed to deliver the promised oil on schedule and didn’t relax sanctions as promised. At the risk of oversimplifying, once one party breaks an agreement, my understanding is that the other party is no longer bound. I don’t point this fact out to trash the U.S. But, Secretary Rice is repeating the myth that such an agreement won’t work without China and others. It, in fact, was working, and I believe we should work to hammer out a similar agreement that is ratified by the Congress. With a Democratic Congress in place…that could be doable.

By time for the truth

October 31, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

rednekkks NAMBLA continuously hides behind pathetic cowardly id’s. what a rancid rabid wanking tosspot!!

By CJ

October 31, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

Middle America @4:31 “…having nuclear weapons makes most governments more responsible members of the international community.

Oh my.

MA, you’re assumption is that North Korea or Iran won’t sell their nukes or technology to terrorists under the mutually assured destruction theory…a risky assumption to say the least.

However, giving you the benefit of the doubt, despite the fact that government officials don’t want to die, that doesn’t mean persons within their governments won’t sell to terrorists. Pakistan has a scientist in custody (a generous characterization) for having sold information on how to develop nukes to both North Korea and Iran.

You’re also assuming that the current regimes in North Korea and Iran will live forever. There’s no way to know who will have their fingers on the button down the road. I don’t want future generations to have to deal with the nuclear threat because we assumed that future leaders would be “more responsible members of the international community”.

Your final flawed assumption is that nukes will always be properly secured. We know that may not be true because of current concerns with securing existing nukes in former Soviet states.

I’m sorry, but I think such optimism is too risky, and much of that risk would be passed on long after we’re gone.

By Markus

October 31, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

Hey DICK @ 12:50-

Markus, I see you don’t have the balls to answer the question. Bush must have castrated you along with his Congress. Kerry “said” something bad. Bush is killing soldiers. Killings worse - duh.

Ok you pig-headed RAT. Exactly WHAT PART OF A WAR DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHERE SOLDIERS CAN AND WILL GET KILLED???

I also note how you conveniently ignore the overwhelming VOTE OF CONGRESS THAT AUTHORIZED THE WAR.

The President CANNOT GO TO WAR WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM CONGRESS.

I am SICK AND TIRED of you pigs on the left saying “Bush” is killing soldiers. What are you a***** going to come up with next, FDR killed soldiers?

Pathetic gutter whore liberals, that’s all you trash holes are. Every last one of you disgusting RATs, from John F’n sKerry on down.

By getalife

October 31, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Kerry botched a joke about w and the pathetic gop pounced because they are desperate.

This now frames the debate about Iraq.

Bad news for the gop but Iraq is lost to Iran. Just more wasted lives and money.

The damage to our country is done and neither party will fix it. We are a country controlled and run by the Corprate elites.

By getoveryourself

October 31, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

Markus,

You are a bitter, maniacal, hateful t**. You never post anything of substance and you fancy yourself as a second-rate Limbaugh. You probably can’t get laid and have a rather unassuming presence outside of the blogosphere. You’re pathetic…just like your idols who sit behind a microphone and berate those who are less fortunate. You’re scum and you’ll probably live the rest of your life as a bitter, hateful, and pathetic old crumudgeon. Cheers to you…b#tch.

By Randy

October 31, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

Is a Dim Liberal telling us Kerry can’t read? B******. For those who didn’t hear, you can find it on YouTube. I regrettably must quote the Democrats esteemed Senator:

John Kerry said: “In our education, if you make the most of it; if you study hard; if you do your homework and make an effort to get smart, you’ll do well. If you don’t you’ll get stuck in Iraq.”

No excuses, just facts.

By Markus

October 31, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Good. I like being hated by you @sshole liberals. The feeling is more than MUTUAL. Communist witch.

By Markus

October 31, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

Note how not one RAT will say what sKerry said was demeaning, hateful, and downright anti-military today. Well, what am I saying. This is a pathetic man who came back and testified under his own men while still fighting in Vietnam. What a disgusting human being. PATHETIC.

By CJ

October 31, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

Here’s a link to an informative interview with Donald Gregg, former National Security Advisor to Bush 41. This Frontline site has interviews with several North Korean experts from different sides of the aisle for anybody who wants to be better informed:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kim/interviews/gregg.html

By Randy

October 31, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

What delusional democrat thinks the Carter/Clinton approach was working? It bought us time which brings us to the present. The HERE & NOW! Real time when problems SHOULD be addressed.

How in the hell can you call that success? Same thing with Iraq, pull out now and all you’ve done is left the mess for later. Best & worse case scenario, your kids later.

By getoveryourself

October 31, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this

Markus,

Why do you always write in all bolded caps? Do you really want to be heard that much, or are you an insecure douchebag with the voice of a 12 year old little boy that hasn’t quite reached puberty?

How does it feel to wake up every morning knowing that you’re a souless douchebag who gets his best lines from a drug-addicted conservative windbag on the radio?

Here’s to you and your little jaded world view…douchebag.

By bob

November 5, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

in 1985 ronald reagan granted amnisty to ileagel aliens(republican idiots)

By bob

November 5, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

i guess you can blame the dems. for the iraq/bush blunder of dead G.I.s

By bob

November 5, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

hey,its called (POVERTY RECRUITING) you idiot republican douch bag

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