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Hunstein’s attack ad opens Pandora’s box

By Jim Wooten | Friday, October 27, 2006, 07:53 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Never again let it be said that judicial races are tainted by politics. The standard doesn’t get any lower than that introduced by incumbent Supreme Court Justice Carol Hunstein.

Never again should any segment of the legal community or the media raise a peep about the unseemliness of judicial campaigns. A key member of the group most fearful of full-scale political campaigning in judicial elections has just set the bar. One ad lays bare the sanctimoniousness of sitting judges and the establishment bar that it is inappropriate even to respond to questions about U.S. Supreme Court decisions, lest they contribute to “politicizing” judicial campaigns.

When a campaigning judge wades into the family circle to trash an adversary, as Hunstein does in lashing out at opponent Mike Wiggins in a commercial that started last week, judicial races in Georgia are in the Willie Horton sphere. The Hunstein ad attacks Wiggins on the basis of litigation arising from a family dispute dating back 20 years.

The commercial quotes in part from litigation and an affidavit by his sister, who alleged that he threatened to kill her, an allegation he denied. The ad was based, Wiggins said, on a guardianship motion filed to prevent removal of life support for their elderly mother, who was in a coma.

“It was my duty as her son to preserve her life and her life savings, which she needed to pay for her intensive medical care,” he said. Wiggins was declared her guardian, the sister consented to repay $12,500 to the estate, and he and his sister agreed, and were directed, to initiate no direct contact “in perpetuity.”

Family disputes, as any 62-year-old adult knows full well, are dangerous territory for outsiders. By Hunstein’s age, most adults have lived through and experienced the stress on families, on children and among siblings, that arises from the deaths of grandparents and parents. I have seen close-knit families, who never uttered unkind words about one another, come unglued by the stress of a parent’s declining health and finances.

Children, all convinced that they have a parent’s best interests at heart, reach different conclusions about what’s best. Having just witnessed the six-year mental and physical decline that preceded a mother-in-law’s death, and having witnessed other families trying to reach good-faith end-of-life decisions about what’s best for a mother or father, I am beyond passing judgment on how others handle their personal and family lives, court documents or not.

Most people in public life, like the rest of us who grew up in a era of family and social change where, for example, divorce was common, have angry ex-spouses, children who harmed themselves or others, siblings who felt slighted or mentally abused by one or both parents, or any other family circumstance or dynamic. But decency and propriety should put that area of our lives off-limits, even for public figures. It’s stunningly bad judgment to wander in and gossip it out.

I don’t know Mike Wiggins’ family history or circumstance. I don’t need or want to know it. That Hunstein has put it out on the street in a political campaign is intrusive and should be embarrassing to all who touched this work product, especially in a campaign that she most likely had won. It is truly bizarre.

It’s not that I object to hard-hitting campaign ads in judicial races. The state constitution gives Georgians the right to elect their judges. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that judges and candidates have the right to talk about legal issues and to criticize previous court decisions, so long as they don’t make promises or pledges. They are entirely free to express opinions about an opponent, as Hunstein did in questioning whether Wiggins would “uphold Georgia values.”

My brief, then, is not with the missile she fired, but with her judgment in her choice of material.

As the Wiggins campaign pointed out, before serving in high-level positions in the U.S. Department of Justice and in the Department of Homeland Security during the Bush administration, he “has been through at least three detailed FBI background checks” and “held some of the highest security clearances in the federal government,” said spokesman Brad Alexander. “Those background checks concluded there was absolutely zero reason to question Mike’s personal integrity.”

Take this Hunstein commercial and send it to the archives. It is the one that forever changes judicial races in Georgia.

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By Aquagirl

October 28, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

Gee, Jim, thanks for that recap of the “talking points” issued by the Wiggins campaign. While I appreciate your work ethic demanding a topic for Saturday, just re-hashing an aggrieved press release from Wiggins is cutting the corners a bit close.

Is your next column going to be a summary of what Hunsteins’ website says about this whole mess?

By Mid-South Philosopher

October 28, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

The grossly misleading Hunstein political attack ad again Mike Wiggins here in Georgia and the sleazy, sexually insinuative, political slander ad toward Harold Ford in Tennessee by the National Republican Committee are classic examples of the level of the sewer to which our political races have fallen. Being unable to offer positive and engaging explanations of their own merits to hold office and govern over us, these pitiable political hacks are compelled to broadside us with the worst accounts of the deportment of their opponents that may exist in some form or may be manufactured from the morass of dung that suffices for the political mind. Since I pay absolutely no attention to anything a candidate says about her or his opponent, it benefits them nothing with me.

As a general rule in elections, I am a one term supporter; two at the most; a third term only if the opponent is an Islamist Fanatic!

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 28, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

ABC News political director Mark Halperin, for acknowledging the media’s liberal bias. On “The O’Reilly Factor” the other night, Mr. Halperin said, “over the years there are a lot of examples [of the media’s liberal bias], what CBS News did in the 2004 election with the president’s National Guard record, lots of examples. If I were a conservative, I understand why I would feel suspicious that I was not going to get a fair break at the end of an election. We’ve [the mainstream media] got to make sure we do better so conservatives don’t have to be concerned about that. It’s just, it’s not fair.”-WashingtonTimes

Kudos.

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These libs will stop at nothing to get power:

If Chebrikov’s account of events is accurate, it’s clear Mr. Kennedy was actively engaging the Russians to influence the 1984 election. He also seems to have genuinely believed that Mr. Reagan’s policies were endangering U.S.-Soviet relations and that the best solution was to get Mr. Reagan out of office. The letter closes with Chebrikov saying that “Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988,” possibly suggesting Mr. Kennedy had other, more selfish motives. As Mr. Kengor concludes, “if the memo is in fact an accurate account of what transpired, it constitutes a remarkable example of the lengths to which some on the political left, including a sitting U.S. senator, were willing to go to stop Ronald Reagan.” We agree. Even in a jaded world, it is breathtaking to discover a U.S. senator — brother of a former president — actively and secretly collaborating with Soviet leaders in an attempt to undermine the president of the United States’ nuclear defense policy during the height of the cold war.-WashingtonTimes

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Quagmire in France?:

This might have dropped below the radar, but Al Qaida and its allies are literally battling the Crusaders every day in Europe. And so far, Europe isn’t doing so well. “We are in a state of civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists,” said Michel Thoomis, secretary general of the Action Police trade union. “This is not a question of urban violence any more. It is an intifada, with stones and firebombs.” The French Interior Ministry has acknowledged the Muslim uprising. The ministry said more than 2,500 police officers have been injured in 2006. This amounts to at least 14 officers each day.-WorldTribune

Not even a peep of this in the Atlanta Urinal although they didn’t have any room left from all the election season Republican bashing nonsense.

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Who would have thought centuries after the Enlightenment that sophisticated Europeans — in fear of radical Islamists — would be afraid to write a novel, put on an opera, draw a cartoon, film a documentary or have their pope discuss comparative theology?-WashingtonTimes

They’re cutting and running from their freedoms.

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One damning result of the Embryonic Stem Cell research that has been done is the fact that when the cells are injected into lab animals many grow brain tumors — some malignant and fatal. Thus far, that is the sole fruit of ESC research — fatal brain tumors. Drug companies aren’t interested in funding that kind of outcome. There’s no money in producing brain tumors.-HumanEvents

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Democrat agenda, since they won’t tell us:

The same isn’t true, however, for the “investor” tax cuts of 2003 that coincided with the acceleration of the current expansion. Ms. Pelosi says reversing these tax cuts “at the high end” would be “an earlier resort.” This would raise the top income and dividend tax rate back to 39.6% from 35%, and the capital-gains rate back to 20% from 15%, substantially raising the cost of new investment in the United States. Economist John Rutledge estimates that raising the dividend rate alone would reduce the value of the S&P 500 stocks by between 5% and 8.5%, roughly a $500 to $700 billion decline in the wealth of the 52% of American households that own stock.-OpinionJournal

The Pelosi Democrats favor a “windfall” profits tax on oil companies and a virtual moratorium on drilling for more domestic oil in Alaska and on the outer continental shelf (where the U.S. may have more energy than Saudi Arabia). These policies would make the U.S. more dependent on foreign oil. There would also be an effort to pass new, and higher, fuel-mileage mandates, which would make things tougher on what’s left of Detroit. And lobbying would begin for the U.S. to sign the Kyoto Protocol on global warming and to subsidize, even more than Republicans already have, ethanol and other “alternative” fuels.-OpinionJournal

Can you say bad for America?

Voting November 7th for Republicans, Novemeber 8th for democrats.

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Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck!

Bonus cartoon that doesn’t suck!

Double Bonus cartoon that doesn’t suck!

By sct

October 28, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Congrats Jim! You now have the system you been have advocating. LOL.

When you have a “family values” candidate I think family history is an important part of the discussion. Restaining orders, lawsuits all should be in play.

Afterall, if there is nothing to hide what is the problem? Same with illegal searches and wiretaps, right?

What would a “Family Values” candidate have to hide? Its not like she challenged him to name the 10 commandments.

If anything this whole thing gives Conservatives just what they want. The very popular “They did it first.”

I do believe however that Wiggins does deserve one of them purple band-aids for his campaign wounds.

By Charles

October 28, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this

Jim, I couldn’t agree with you more. This ad sinks to new lows and was not necessary, as Hunstein was likely to win. This ad cost her my vote. Please, others, join me. If you cannot vote for he opponent, just don’t vote in this race. It is important that we, the voters, ensure she does not win. If Hunstein wins, in the next election, candidates will continue this bottom-of-the-barrel attack style campaigning. If Hunstein resoundingly loses at this point, it will be a clear sign that we, the electorate, will punish the candidate who crosses the line. Who knows, maybe it would lead to candidates who campaign by talking about the issues while respecting that an opponent can still be a decent, honorable person who just has a different opinion.

By TimBuckTooth

October 28, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

If Justice Hunstein is so loose with the facts, so willing to stetch the truth for political gain, is she qualified to serve on ANY court?

Judges should uphold the truth, the facts, and the rule of law. On these points, Justice Hunstein clearly fails.

Hunstein takes a personal family tragedy and twists the reality and selectively ignores the facts to score political points.

She violates the very canons of judicial ethics that she swears to promote.

I wouldn’t want her on the traffic court, much less the highest court in Georgia.

By Aquagirl

October 28, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

Uh, did any of you see Wiggins’ first ads? He selectively ignored facts and twisted reality. What else is new in political ads?

Hunstein noted that, came up with her own ad, and hit him square between his family values-obsessed eyes. Good for her. Now he’s crying like a little bully who finally met someone bigger than him, and got the inevitable smackdown.

If Wiggins wants a full nasty political race, apparently he’s getting one. If that’s too much for him, he can go back to harassing his sister.

By Political Foreskin

October 28, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

This sounds like the Terry Shiavo case. Jeb Bush should weigh in.

News Briefs: On Fox News just now, Paul McCartney denied he ever waterboarded his wife.

Cheney claims he was referring to “baptising detainees”, not waterboarding.

Paris Hilton denies she ever waterboarded her dog for housebreaking violations. “Nicoles a different matter”, she pleaded.

The runaway bride now claims she was waterboarded by the mexicans who kidnapped her.

The North Vietnamese deny they ever waterboarded John McCain during his 5 year captivity.

Wallmart announced they will sell the new “Waterboard” game by Galoob, where everyone gets a chance to be the North Korean guards of a wartime prison.

The International Olympic Committee is considering including Waterboarding as an official event for the 2010 olympics. (Cheney may get his gold medal yet).

By Political Foreskin

October 28, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Wiggin’s latest ad accuses Hunstein of waterboarding defendents during trials to glean confessions……

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

October 28, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Most people in public life, like the rest of us who grew up in a era of family and social change where, for example, divorce was common, have angry ex-spouses, children who harmed themselves or others, siblings who felt slighted or mentally abused by one or both parents, or any other family circumstance or dynamic. But decency and propriety should put that area of our lives off-limits, even for public figures. It’s stunningly bad judgment to wander in and gossip it out.

Not true Jim. When one declares himself or herself a candidate of the GOP, the so-called “family values” party, one should be able to wal the walk, not just talk the talk.

Based upon Wiggins’ legal troubles, he comes from a tribe of idiot rednecks. Like virtually all GOPers, he’s a hypocrite - his family is based on “animal values”, not family values.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

October 28, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

@ Charles

Who knows, maybe it would lead to candidates who campaign by talking about the issues while respecting that an opponent can still be a decent, honorable person who just has a different opinion.

That has nothing to do with this case - Wiggins is a dumbarse redneck, a pig.

By Hail Hillary

October 28, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

The G0Pers are the world leaders in smear campaigns, just look at the talk radio right wing bigots, like fat boy rush, and big mouth kimmer. I am amazed that given their history as being the party of child molestors, the G0Pers are opposing gay marriage. I have noted that Markus is a big supporter of the North American Man Boy Love Association, and why not, he is a big mouthed bigot pervert. If Markus would just marry Van, our children would be much safer from pervert child molester of the G0P persuasion.

By Political Foreskin

October 28, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

Okay, lets take a look at Wooten’s article.

He opened with sarcasm and irony, which completely baffles the reader. He doesn’t get to the truth till the fourth paragraph, and even then he barely glosses over it.

He sets up the crux of Hunstein’s lack of judgement with three paragraphs of extravagant outrage, which blunts the effectiveness of his revenge. The reader is expected to catch his drift early on, which is a convoluted mixture of bitter acrimony and sardonic derision. The effect of the entire piece is to leave the reader wanting to see the ad and use it as a scale to measure the unsold portion of Wooten’s own political expediency.

Look at the Halloween-appropriate tone. It reads like Edgar Allen Poe: “Never again…..Never again….sanctimonious….fearful….unseemliness……doesn’t get any lower….”

Then, when he finally has the readers attention and could really do some damage to Hunstein, he focuses on the nonsequitur of her age and recites some bromides about the myth of accumulated wisdom and how ubiquitous family skeletons are, (more halloween).

Hunstein emerges unscathed, sir. You’ve personified Wiggins, however, with the specter of Shiavo-mania. All you did was remind Georgians about the theo-political call-to-arms that convened a Republican legislative jugernaut that rose up like an avenging angel to thwart the grim reaper. Americans snapped out of the 911 spell on that occasion, sir.

Are Americans likely to heed “Christian Littles” like Jeb Bush ever again?

Nevermore.

By Eddie

October 28, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

If I remember correctly, and I do. It was Wiggins who started the mudslinging when he ran his attack ads. Remember that Hunstein is the incumbent. Wiggins should have known that she would retaliate. Yep Wiggins started it but it sure looks like Hunstein finished it.

By Rev. Moon

October 28, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

Hey! “We’re…Gonna…Raise” guy.

Your links to Sun Myung Moon’s Washington Time’s are useless without a login — which of course, only Moonies and other radical ideologists would have. Regardless, your cult leader/convicted tax evader/right-wing propaganda publisher friend’s newspaper does not persuade.

By getalife

October 28, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

Finally, some honesty on Letterman last night when Bill O’Reilly admitted Iraq is all about the oil.

Blood for oil is the answer to the why Iraq question.

By Homer Simpson

October 28, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

If Cheif Wiggins wants to be judge, it will be over my drunk body.

Burp

By RW-(the original)

October 28, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Jim,

When you say this ad is in the Willie Horton sphere, do you mean that there was something wrong with the Willie Horton ads or are you talking about the reputation of the ad as in “Willie Hortonlike?”

In 1988 violent crime was a big campaign issue with Michael Dukakis saying he would do a much better job than George H W Bush.

Willie Horton was serving a life sentence without possibility of parole for murdering a child and shoving the body into a trash can. Despite this, Dukakis let him out on unsupervised furlough where he beat and tied up a man and then brutally raped his girlfriend in front of him then proceeded to torture them.

In what possible stretch of the imagination was it wrong to show that in an ad? Frankly it sounds like you’ve bought into the left’s characterization and just adopted the lexicon.

The Horton ad was informative and vital to informing the public in reference to one of the big issues of the day.

By getalife

October 28, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Hey Andy,

What do you think about invading Iraq for record oil profits for the big oil companies?

By Aquagirl

October 28, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

A link to a story about the Wiggins ad that started the whole mess.

Or I should say, The ad that Wiggins was too dishonest to actually run with his name. He just got one of those PAC’s (like MoveOn.org, so beloved on this blog)to do his dirty work. Now that’s an honest, values-related thing to do.

http://www.dailyreportonline.com/Editorial/News/newsingleEdit.asp?origin=NewsAlrt&individualSQL=10/26/2006@12154Public

By CJ

October 28, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

Wooten: “*I am beyond passing judgment on how others handle their personal and family lives…decency and propriety should put that area of our lives off-limits… *”

I’m with you Jim. If only President Bush, Bill Frist, Dennis Hastert, Tom Delay, Jeb Bush and the rest of our Republican friends had your attitude during the Terri Schiavo unpleasantness. As you said, it was truly bizarre.

On the issue of background checks, I understand that Mike Wiggins passed FBI background checks and held some of the highest security clearances in the federal government. However, for his campaign to say that such background checks concluded that there was absolutely zero reason to question Wiggins’ personal integrity is a stretch. Karl Rove holds one of the highest security clearances available, but most thinking persons (i.e. liberals) would still classify his personal integrity as questionable (a generous assessment). A person can be unethical without being unlawful. I sense that many so-called conservatives don’t understand that.

By kep

October 28, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

So Jim, did you find it this objectionable when the republicans put out an ad that equated a disabled Vietnam vet with Osama bin Laden?

Conservatves have started this - now they are getting a taste of their own medicine.

By We're Gonna....Raise....Your....Taxes!!

October 28, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

By getalife October 28, 2006 11:31 AM Hey Andy What do you think about invading Iraq for record oil profits for the big oil companies?

Macacalife: As soon as we start taking Iraq’s oil from them then maybe I’ll have an answer for you.

If you’re looking for an honest (hahaha) reason for high oil prices why don’t you look at government regulations and taxes plus the lack of US production to counter the Arab cartel’s control of their supplies?

Polly Whacko Job: You still haven’t contributed to this blog in any “constructive” fashion.

By getalife

October 28, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Hell CJ,

Jim sounds like one of us vicious libs.

No wonder RW is mad at Jim.

By We're Gonna....Raise....Your....Taxes!!

October 28, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

I know how Jim desires to keep his blog somewhat clean and constructive, so I promise that I won’t post any of the democrat’s candidate for governor of Virginia, Jim Webb’s, novel excerpt’s, due to the fact that they’re filthy, paedophilia, demeaning to women and minorities and just sick, sick, sick in general.

No matter how much it is killing me not to.

See, I can be cooperative.

By Iran condemns US Gulf exercises

October 28, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

Iran has criticised planned US military exercises in the Gulf as provocative. Iran’s official news agency IRNA quoted an unnamed foreign ministry official as describing the military manoeuvres as dangerous and suspicious.

Reports say the US is to hold naval exercises at the end of October with Bahrain, Kuwait, France and Britain.

Separately, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has called for Muslim unity to deal with what he called the “dirty aims” of the US and Israel.

The world knows that after Hezbollah’s victory and the obvious and disgraceful failure of Israel in the 33-day war with Hezbollah, the face of the Middle East has completely changed Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

Speaking at prayers to mark the festival of Eid al-Fitr at the end of Ramadan, Ayatollah Khamenei said the Middle East had turned a page in its history after what he described as the victory of the militant Lebanese group Hezbollah in its recent conflict with Israel.

In particular he called on Palestinian factions and groups to remain united, saying their enemies wanted to sow the seeds of division among them.

BBC Tehran correspondent Frances Harrison says the factional fighting between Fatah and Hamas has dismayed Iranian leaders, who fear it could diminish support for the Palestinian struggle.

‘Intercepting missiles’

Reports say the US-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles.

The Iranian foreign ministry official said the US-led exercises were not in line with the security and stability of the region. Instead, they are aimed at fomenting crises, he said.

He complained that it was the warmongering of neo-conservatives in America who want to win the mid-term US congressional elections in November.

The manoeuvres come as America is pushing for tough UN sanctions on Iran, prohibiting nuclear cooperation or sales of ballistic missiles.

It is not yet clear whether the UN would authorise the searching of ships heading to Iran.

Could this be the big November suprise the G0Pers are counting on to keep control of the house and senate?

By JK

October 28, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

Hey, I just read someing AMAZING! It’s going to end the dirty, underhanded dealings of our government officials, and restore honor and dignity to Congress, and make them accountable to American families once again! It’s called the REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA, and they’re going to implement it just the MINUTE they regain the majority and get sworn in January!

Read the text of it yourselves: (I am SO psyched! YAY Repubs!)

As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.

That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.

This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.

Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.

On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:

FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;

SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;

THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;

FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;

FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;

SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;

SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;

EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.

By A. Klein

October 28, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

As soon as we start taking Iraq’s oil from them then maybe I’ll have an answer for you.

That’s one of the problems, isn’t it? The oil revenue that was supposed to fund the Iraq war and reconstruction remains a neocon fantasy.

By Iranian Attack Plan

October 28, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

USS BOXER, At Sea (NNS) — USS Boxer (LHD 4) Expeditionary Strike Group (BOXESG) navigated through the Strait of Malacca Oct. 16 while transiting towards the Persian Gulf in support of the global war on terrorism.

Because of the strait’s length, width, and it being one of the busiest sea lanes in the world, the transit north required BOXESG’s expert seamanship on behalf of Boxer’s bridge team.

The imposed maneuvering restrictions require the ships to increase their defensive postures by adding more Sailors to look out for potential threats and hazards.

“In the strait we have a lot of contact between fishermen and merchants going about their daily lives,” said Lt. Cmdr. Tommy Liveoak, Boxer’s weapons officer. “It’s hard to distinguish bad guys from the good guys, so we have to increase our threat posture.”

The passage required the Sailors to remain vigilant and to report all contacts and obstructions.

“We are looking for any hostile boat or surface contacts in the strait,” said Gunner’s Mate Seaman Alfonso Martinez, of Tustin, Calif., who manned a gun mount during the transit.

The Republic of Singapore (RSN) navy provided patrol boats during the 12-hour transit to provide additional assistance.

“Compared to an open ocean transit, it’s a lot more stressful because you have an increased situational awareness around you,” said Boxer Chief Quartermaster (SW/AW) Robert E. Barber, assistant navigator/assistant force navigator U.S. 5th Fleet. “In a situation like this, with all of the merchant vessels and less than a mile visibility, everyone has to work as a team.”

The transit required many Sailors to help during the passage.

“Engineers are a large part of going through the strait,” said Boxer Machinist’s Mate Fireman Tyree Green. “We coordinate with the bridge and engineering control to help ensure we maneuver with no problems and perform to the best of our abilities.”

The coordination of the ships of BOXESG, the RSN and the vigilance of their watch standers contributed to the successful transit through the Strait of Malacca.

BOXESG is now entering the Indian Ocean where it will participate in a joint amphibious exercise with the Indian navy.

Boxer is the flagship for Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (BOXESG), operating out of San Diego, which is reporting operationally to Commander, Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG) 7/Task Force (CTF) 76, the Navy’s only forward-deployed amphibious task force.

Boxer ESG Transits Strait of Malacca Story Number: NNS061023-18 Release Date: 10/23/2006 2:43:00 PM

By Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Brian Gaines, USS Boxer Public Affairs

By War with Iran Soon

October 28, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates - Coalition naval forces in the Persian Gulf are on watch for possible terror threats to oil facilities in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, Western naval officials said Friday.

A British navy official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press, said a threat from al-Qaida last month to target gulf oil terminals had resulted in stepped-up security and vigilance at Saudi Arabia’s Ras Tanura terminal, as well as a refinery in Bahrain.

Oil exports in the region were proceeding as normal, he said.

The British navy, part of the Italian-led Coalition Task Force 152 that patrols international waters off the Ras Tanura terminal, sent an e-mail warning on Friday asking merchant shippers in the region of Bahrain and eastern Saudi Arabia to be on alert for suspicious vessels or other activity.

Task Force 152 also contains ships from French, U.S., German and other navies.

The U.S. Navy’s 5th Fleet, headquartered in Bahrain, said it was aware of the British warning.

“We support the recommendation that commercial mariners be especially vigilant while transiting the gulf,” Lt. Cmdr. Charles Brown said Friday in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press.

Brown acknowledged the security measures but referred to them as “routine.”

“Coalition forces are taking prudent, precautionary measures and focusing maritime security operations in the gulf on these possible (al-Qaida) threats,” he said.

“These operations are nothing new. Coalition maritime forces routinely conduct maritime security operations in the gulf,” he added.

‘The Saudis are very protective’ The British official said the coalition ships were confining their patrols to international waters and had not been invited by Saudi Arabia to patrol inside its territorial waters near the terminal.

“The Saudis are very protective of their patch,” the British official in Dubai said, describing the patrols as normal naval operations that had been under way since 2002, albeit on a heightened state for the past month.

Ras Tanura, just north of the Saudi oil capital of Dhahran, is the world’s largest offshore oil loading facility, with a capacity of 6 million barrels per day. Bahrain, an independent island kingdom, lies in the gulf just off the Saudi east coast.

In February, al-Qaida-linked car bombers attacked the Abqaiq oil processing plant near Dammam, Saudi Arabia, killing two guards. The attack did no damage to the facility but sent oil prices briefly spiking up $2 a barrel.

On Friday, light sweet crude for December delivery fell 10 cents to $60.26 a barrel.

By sct

October 28, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Don’t forget the classic Chambliss TV ad that morphed Cleland’s face into Saddam Hussein’s. Conservatives consider that art.

To get the full Horton affect Hunstein should have morphed Wiggins face into Mark Foley.

By getalife

October 28, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Yes, the big oil companies are reeking in the profits Andy

Look forward to the Dems investigating Cheney’s secret meetings with big oil.

Maybe they will be under oath this time.

By Massive US Naval Buildup in Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean = November Suprise

October 28, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

US naval war games off the Iranian coastline: A provocation which could lead to War? There is a massive concentration of US naval power in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. Two US naval strike groups are deployed: USS Enterprise, and USS Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group. The naval strike groups have been assigned to fighting the “global war on terrorism.”

War Games

Concurrent with ths concentration of US Naval power, the US is also involved in military exercises in the Persian Gulf, which consists in “interdicting ships in the Gulf carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles”

The exercise is taking place as the United States and other major powers are considering sanctions including possible interdiction of ships on North Korea, following a reported nuclear test, and on Iran, which has defied a U.N. Security Council mandate to stop enriching uranium.

The exercise, set for Oct. 31, is the 25th to be organized under the U.S.-led 66-member Proliferation Security Initiative and the first to be based in the Gulf near Bahrain, across from Iran, the officials said.

A senior U.S. official insisted the exercise is not aimed specifically at Iran, although it reinforces a U.S. strategy aimed at strengthening America’s ties with states in the Gulf, where Tehran and Washington are competing for influence”

(Defense News, http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=2171176&C=mideast)

Tehran considers the US sponsored war games in the Persian Gulf, off the Iranian coastline as a provocation, which is intended to trigger a potential crisis and a situation of direct confrontation between US and Iranian naval forces in the Persian Gulf:

“Reports say the US-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles.

Iran’s official news agency IRNA quoted an unnamed foreign ministry official as describing the military manoeuvres as dangerous and suspicious.

Reports say the US-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles.

The Iranian foreign ministry official said the US-led exercises were not in line with the security and stability of the region. Instead, they are aimed at fomenting crises, he said.” (quoted in BBC, 23 October 2006)

USS Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG 5) to arrive in Arabian Sea

The USS Boxer (LHD 4), —which is the flagship for the Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG 5)— which left Singapore on October 16, is scheduled to join the two other naval strikes groups. ESG 5 is comprised of USS Boxer, Bunker Hill, USS Dubuque (LPD 8), USS Comstock (LSD 45), USS Benfold (DDG 65), and USS Howard (DDG 83). ESG 5 also includes PHIBRON 5, the 15th MEU, Coast Guard Cutter Midgett (WHEC 726).

“We are about to enter a part of the world that can be very dangerous,” said Chief Aviation Ordnanceman (AW/SW) Jacques Beaver, Boxer’s flight deck ordnance chief. “We must be flexible and prepared to defend ourselves from any threats.”

Boxer has been preparing for the weapons upload for two months by completing required maintenance and electronic pre-checks. Checks ensure that the ship’s missile and launching systems are up to standard and safe to load with live ordnance.

“It has taken a lot of hard work for our people to get this done,” said Chief Fire Controlman (SW) William Lewis, combat systems, fire control division’s leading chief petty officer. “You cannot measure the importance of having these defenses guarding the lives of the Sailors and Marines in this strike group.”

BOXESG is comprised of USS Boxer (LHD 4), USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), USS Dubuque (LPD 8), USS Comstock (LSD 45), USS Benfold (DDG 65) and USS Howard (DDG 83). The strike group also includes Amphibious Squadron 5, the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, Coast Guard Cutter Midgett (WHEC 726) and Canadian Frigate HMCS Ottawa (FFH 341).

BOXESG is currently conducting operations in support of the global war on terrorism while transiting to the Arabian Gulf.” (http://www.c7f.navy.mil/news/2006/october/3.htm)

USS Boxer

Canada is part of the Expeditonary Strike Group (ESG 5)

Canada is formally participating in this military deployment under the disguise of the “war on terrorism”. The Canadian Navy has dispatched Frigate HMCS Ottawa, which is now an integral part of ESG 5, under US Command. It is worth noting that particular emphasis has been given to medical evacuations and combat medical support suggesting that a combat scenario could be envisaged.

Boxer and Ottawa, both operating in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of responsibility, know that they can play a vital role to aid humanitarian assistance operations, medical evacuations or combat medical support that would rely heavily on the medical capabilities of the Boxer strike group. Cross training Sailors from ship to ship helps ensure the success of the strike group should BOXESG have to respond to any medical scenario, according to Richardson.

“Training is a necessary part of any evolution,” said Richardson. “Anytime you’re working with another nation, it’s important that we understand their capabilities just as much as they understand ours, so in the event anything occurs we know where our assets are.”

The cross training also fostered cooperation between the two allies which provided Verville and Boxer corpsmen a forum to learn about each other’s navies and each other’s culture.” (Military.com October 2006)

Dangerous Crossroads: Tonkin II?

“An incident” in the Persian Gulf could be used by the US as a pretext for war against Iran.

A war pretext incident, similar to “the Gulf of Tonkin Incident”, which triggered the Vietnam war, could be used by US forces, with a view to justifying retaliatory military action against Iran.

In August 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson claimed that North Vietnamese forces had attacked US destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin. The Tonkin incident, which had been manipulated, contributed to unleashing a full-fledged war against Vietnam:

“A phantom attack on two U.S. destroyers cruising the Gulf of Tonkin was staged by the Pentagon and the C.I.A. The bogus attack occurred early in August, 1964. That evening President Lyndon Johnson went on television giving the grim details of the non-attack. Later, however, it was revealed that navy commander James Stockdale flew cover over the Gulf of Tonkin that night. Stockdale disclosed that U.S. ships were firing at phantom targets—targets that didn’t exist. The Gulf of Tonkin Incident that drew the U.S. into the quagmire of Viet Nam simply didn’t happen. Johnson, as presidents so often do, lied to the American people. The result was the rapid passage of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which was the sole legal basis for the Viet Nam War. As a result of Johnson’s lie, three million Vietnamese people and fifty eight thousand U.S. soldiers died.” (Charles Sullivan, Global Research, January 2006)

By ATICO

October 28, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

Jim:

When we get “clean” canidates to run for our Judgeships I will pay closer attention to your comments, but until then you are p** in the wind. Where are the people we need for our Judges, or are their any with s clean backgroud?

By getalife

October 28, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

The Contract with America is a joke. They did not even come close to fulfilling that contract and they should be held accountable.

I would not be surprised for an Iranian attack to keep them from getting Iraq’s oil.

It is all about the oil.

By JK

October 28, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

By A. Klein October 28, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this As soon as we start taking Iraq’s oil from them then maybe I’ll have an answer for you. That’s one of the problems, isn’t it? The oil revenue that was supposed to fund the Iraq war and reconstruction remains a neocon fantasy.

Hey, I have a question. WHO EXACTLY is on top of that oil? You know, manning the pumps, guarding it, watching it go into the pipelines? And where EXACTLY do those pipelines go, and who is getting it at the other end, processing it, and selling it, and to whom EXACTLY is that money going?

OH yes, and WHY is it that no one can actually answer that question with any certainty? I mean, is it a secret? Things to ponder. Why don’t ya’ll do that, while I go watch some FOOTBALL! YAYYY!

By RW-(the original)

October 28, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

One way to tell that the libs are lying about an ad is when they can’t remember the lie. Look at 11:39 and 12:15.

Since all Chambliss did was point out that union protections for homeland security workers would make us more vulnerable it was a perfectly legitimate ad. By the way, libs since you are always squawking that you want every single measure the 9/11 commission recommended, implemented without question or debate, you’re on Chambliss’ side on the issue the ad spotlighted.

By We're Gonna....Raise....Your....Taxes!!

October 28, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

I know you democrats are genuises way smarter than us Conservatives but apparently you haven’t figured out yet how to link to your moonbat hysterical pinko articles from the fever swamps.

Unless, of course, you are just a pig who just likes to clog public places with all of your bullsheet.

Link: [text to be linked]$(http://www.ajc.com) = text to be linked

Remove the dollar sign before you post.

By TimBuckTooth

October 28, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

One great hypocrisy in the race for the Supreme Court:

The TV-lawyer-led State Bar and media friends like Jay Bookman sanctimoniously warning against “politicizing” the judiciary. Then they uncork a raw, ugly and untrue ad for Hunstein that shames the entire judicial process.

By getalife

October 28, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this

“It gives me no great pleasure today to be saying `I told you so,’” said Webb, whose son, Jimmy, is a Marine on active duty in Iraq. “It pains me as an American that our casualties are again escalating while this president and his followers are still incapable of bringing forward an intelligent, commonsense approach to ending our involvement there.”

Webb cited Iraq and other Bush-backed policies among his reasons for leaving the GOP. Now, other Republicans are reaching the same conclusions he did about the war.

By deegee

October 28, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

Letterman is a genius. Did he make O’Reilly look like an a*! Finally an honest comment from the neocons. We went to Iraq because we didn’t want the Iranians to overrun Iraq and jeopardize the oil supply and distribution channels. Bill O’Reilly meets Dave Letterman in the no spin zone.

By getalife

October 28, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

Who da thunk you would find the truth about Iraq on the Letterman show of all places?

By RW-(the original)

October 28, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

deegee,

Whether you like it or not virtually all the stability AND instability in the world is oil related. In that regard O’Reilly was just stating a fact that most people don’t want to admit since they know you will be out chanting “no blood for oil” after you drive 50,000 vehicles to Washington to protest. If you think having Iran control the world’s oil supply is a good thing you’re nuttier than Cindy Sheehan.

Most of what Letterman was yelling at O’Reilly about was pretty funny because if Dave ever watched or had somebody watch he would know that Bill agrees with him on half of it.

By Dusty

October 28, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it good that Americans can recognize truth from fiction? That’s why Republicans win so many elections.

I mean all the accusations Liberals pile on—everything from operating the Navy off Iran to spoiling the records of locals.

Also, I understand tht terrorists appreciate the review of military information from “Iranian Attack Plan & others”. They love it and are glad to be reminded. They plan to use it.

Now, let’s see. Are there any more dubious deliberations to pile on here today by liberals?

By getalife

October 28, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

Speaking of Cindy RW,

Did you know she is up for the Nobel Peace prize?

Your thoughts?

By Dusty

October 28, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this

RW,

Please stop laughing.

Cindy was duly nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by Saturday Night Live. (I’m fooling! Puhleeze!!!)

By Homer Simpson

October 28, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

Hey Crusty the clown,

burp

By deegee

October 28, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

RW, maybe oil is at the root of stability and instablility in your small world but I would bet that abject poverty, hunger, and hopelessnes is at the root of stability and instablility outside of your limited sphere. Since when is the world’s oil supply concentrated in Iraq? Again, you need to get out a little more. What makes you think that a fundamentalist Shiite government in Iran would have the power and might to control resources in the overwhelmingly Sunni middle east? If you think that Saudi Arabia is shaking in their boots you’re nuttier than Hugo Chavez.

By getalife

October 28, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

No Dusty,

She is a finalist nominated to pi-ss off the cons

Are you angry?

By getalife

October 28, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

Then again, it could be a dubious deliberation.

Like Lynne Cheney’s “it is distortion”.

By Dusty

October 28, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

Getalife, sweetheart,

Angry? That’s the funniest line I’ve read in a long time. You have made my day.

Now, if we can just nominate Bookman for a Pulitzer. How about it, Homer? You sound like one of his readers.

By Dusty v. substance

October 28, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

“Now, if we can just nominate Bookman for a Pulitzer. How about it, Homer?”

“Cindy was duly nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by Saturday Night Live. (I’m fooling! Puhleeze!!!)”

“I understand tht terrorists appreciate the review of military information…They love it and are glad to be reminded. They plan to use it.”

Dusty v. substance…Dusty wins again.

By deegee

October 28, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Dusty, how old are you? Have you finished high school? You write like an 8th grader, from Mississipi.

By Homer Simpson

October 28, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

Homer does need a book man only a beer.

burp

By Dusty

October 28, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

Oh dear Deegee,

I never confess to the number of my degrees or my age. I do confess that I was lovingly raised in South Carolina and still like mint juleps made with Manichevitz (my own recipe).

When you get over your depression, come on over. I’ll fix you one. Bring Getalife with you. He could use one too.

By deegee

October 28, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

Dusty, that’s Manischewitz Wine and I don’t drink with minors. You didn’t catch my spelling error in the last post which leads me to believe you haven’t passed the 4th grade.

By getalife

October 28, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

No thanks Dusty,

My drink is Canadian.

My smoke is Cuban.

My depression is the gop.

By Buy Danish

October 28, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Deegee will need plenty of advance notice to get your patented Mint Julep Cure for Hopelessness. She inhabits a vastly different sphere than you and will have to figure out how to get from hers to yours. Perhaps she could rent a rocket.

This will be a particularly difficult task as her sphere is so unstable, what with all the abject poverty and all. She may need to apply for a government grant to finance her difficult but rewarding journey.

On the way she needs to stop off in Colorado to say “hi!” to her mentor, Ward Churchill, and regale him with her tale of how SHE misspelled “Mississippi” and blamed it on YOU.

How long before those mint juleps reach their expiration date?

By deegee

October 28, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Another politician distances himself from W.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15454290/

By Dusty

October 28, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

DeeGee,

You are absolutely correct. Never drink with minors. Majors are more fun.

Spelling errors? Now, Miss Manners and my mama said that correcting people in public showed very bad manners, not a Southern custom. So you misspell all you want and I won’t say a word.

I’ll be gone awhile. It is going to take some time explaining to my five children how I am still a “minor”.

By deegee

October 28, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, are you and Dusty speaking some sort of code? I remember doing that when I was in grade school. People thought my friend and I were speaking nonsense but it made sense to us. It was really funny at the time.

By RW-(the original)

October 28, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

deegee,

I roamed outside of my “sphere” only to find that you are still full of sh!t. That abject poverty and hopelessness canard is like a lame left over from the 1960’s. Most people that are abjectly poor don’t get to attend the best schools, learn to fly jumbo jets, and spend billions bribing France and Germany.

By Dusty

October 28, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I have lost my code ring so you will have to talk to Deegee for me. I will reward you with all my unexpired mint juleps. That’s a reward you will not want to miss.

If you have any trouble with the code ring, just ask Homer. Getalife says he is too busy smoking anti-depression cigars to help. I am off to a wild shopping spree at Kroger with the kiddies. Thanks!!

By Buy Danish

October 28, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

Poor, pitiful Deegee,

I was unravelling the code to your DNA. It is genetically predisposed to mental illnesses such as Depression, Bush Derangement Syndrome, Hysteria, an over-inflated ego and other tragic and mostly incurable genetic flaws.

More promising than an embryonic stem cell, Dusty was your only hope.

Tant pis.

By @@

October 28, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

No matter where I go, Luckovich or Wooten’s, the debate is always about Iraq.

Saudi Arabia & Israel, allies against Iran?

By GodHatesTrash

October 28, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Poor Mr. Wiggins - he feels that Judge Hunstein’s commercial besmirches his family’s honor.

But here’s the catch -

There is no honor in a redneck trash family like Wiggins’.

By Homer Simpson

October 28, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

Don’t forget the Duff’s and the dohnuts Marge.

Mmmm, dohnuts.

drool

By getalife

October 28, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

My depression will be gone after the courts are done with this election.

By Homer Simpson

October 28, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

Dave watches my show!

hehe

burp

By Buy Danish

October 28, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

@@,

This is one time when I wouldn’t mind spammimg. It’s easier than registering for a site I don’t intend to visit often.

By Something Andy will never tell you

October 28, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

Erbil, Iraq is that capital of Kurdistan.

Erbil has been free of sectarian strife since the 1990 Persian Gulf War. The smiles are for the first President Bush, the one who liberated them.

By the whole truth

October 29, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

By whiner Andy!! - October 28, 2006 11:48 AM - I know how Jim desires to keep his blog somewhat clean and constructive, so I promise that I won’t post any of the democrat’s candidate for governor of Virginia, Jim Webb’s, novel excerpt’s, due to the fact that they’re filthy, paedophilia, blah blah…

Webb’s book is so bad, it’s on the official Marines recommended book list!

6. Fields of Fire - The classic novel of the Vietnam War - James Webb

Any protests against this book make the whiner sound like that dork Needermeyer in “Animal House”… “sooo disgusting!!” And we all know what happened to him!

By Political Foreskin

October 29, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

Hunstein’s outing of Wiggin’s family skeleton was politically correct for three reasons: 1) Republicans have many skeletons in their closets. 2) Many Republicans are in the closet. 3) It’s Halloween.

So in conclusion I’ll offer this: It’s PC to out AC/DC GOP VIPs on the QT.

Have a gay halloween, and uncloset as many skeletons as you can find, because the career you ruin may be a gay republican’s (Jolly Roger) and our long national nightmare may soon end.

I make no bones about this fact: If the Republicans with skeletons in their closets cant take a little ribbing then they’re numbskulls.

Gay Republicans: Jolly Rogers. I like that.

By DebbieDoRight

October 29, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Wow it sure was feisty yesterday!! Viva la Blogs!!

The G0Pers are the world leaders in smear campaigns

A+ for accuracy on that one. Remember Dubya vs. Ann Richards?

If Justice Hunstein is so loose with the facts, so willing to stetch the truth for political gain, is she qualified to serve on ANY court?

The same could be said of her challenger, Wiggins. Anyone who threatens to kill their pregnant sister should not hold a position on anyone’s court.

Willie Horton was serving a life sentence without possibility of parole for murdering a child and shoving the body into a trash can. Despite this, Dukakis let him out on unsupervised furlough

Often told Con-Serv-A-Tron lie number 198991: No Governor in modern times supervises the prison system — they have prison administration officials to do this. This is a well known fact. Why do you keep retelling the same lie? Any person who has any common sense, (sans Con-Serv-A-Trons), will know that this is blatant lie.

So Jim, did you find it this objectionable when the republicans put out an ad that equated a disabled Vietnam vet with Osama bin Laden?

Of COURSE he didn’t! He probably applauded it. I am amazed how this man can, laughingly, call himself a journalist. He’s more like the Ann Landers of Journalism.

If I were a Republican candidate for Congress I would immediately change my campaign to reflect the New Jersey decision. I would say, “Connect the dots: If the Democrats win control of the House, Nancy Pelosi will be the Speaker. Nancy Pelosi is from where? San Francisco. San Francisco is known for what? Two things: A song by Tony Bennett and being ground zero for Gay rights. If you want Sister Boom-Boom to be the Clerk of the House, vote for the Democrat.”-TownHall

How very Republicanesque. We have the Iraq War, unemployment, the attack on the voting rights act, a concentrated effort of more government control over individual rights, a mind bogging-record-breaking-biggest-in- history-budget-deficit; but let’s not talk about that. Let’s talk about those dang gay marriages!!!

By getalife

October 29, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

“Bill Clinton celebrates 60th birthday Celebrating your birthday on the day of your birth is common. Celebrating it by getting your wealthy friends to donate to your charitable foundation is presidential.”

Thank you President Clinton!

By midniteryder

October 29, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

So your State Farm candidate got his head handed to him. You wanted this race to be partisan as long as your guy was dishing it out but cry foul when he gets a return volley. Good for her. By the way, name one case this guy was the lead lawyer on and actually tried in court and not as a “member or involved with” but actually stood up in court and tried it in front of a judge and jury.

By GodHatesTrash

October 29, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this

The quote from Webb’s book describes a very typical father-son relationship in Dixie.

Rednecks are perverted trash, worse than animals.

By Eat Your Failure Fries, Neo-Scum

October 29, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

Iraq has been a financial, military, political, and social disaster for everyone involved except Israel. Soon, the Democratic pro-israel crowd will take over from the neo-scum, and ship billions of american tax dollars to israel, while blockading Israel’s enemies in the middle east and asia. Will America every wise up to the two wings of the fanatical pro israel lobby?

By getalife

October 29, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

Stop with the fiction novels and get real:

“It turns out that the Republican National Committee is a regular recipient of political contributions from Nicholas T. Boyias, the owner and CEO of Marina Pacific Distributors, one of the largest producers and distributors of gay porn in the United States.”

By time for the truth

October 29, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

Rednecks are perverted trash, worse than animals.

But still vastly SUPERIOR to you NAMBLA!!

Ignoring rednekkk NAMBLA’s compulsive trademark pig ignorant vile bigotry “rednecks” are undeniably WAY ABOVE YanKKKee SCUM on the evolutionary scale.

I see maggot brain is still indulging in lickspittle grovelling to the corrupt perjuring Arkansas rapist!! WAY TO GO MAGGOT BRAIN!

VOTE GOP IN NOVEMBER AND KEEP THE TREASONOUS CUT AND RUN Liberal VERMIN OUT OF POWER!

By DebbieDoRight

October 29, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Lost Soldiers:

*Lost Soldiers,” was blurbed positively by Sen. John McCain, R-AZ. “I guess the Allen campaign thinks John McCain is a big deviant as well,” Denny Todd says.

(McCain’s blurb: “James Webb’s new novel paints a portrait of a modern Vietnam charged with hopes for the future but haunted by the ghosts of its war-torn past. It captures well the lingering scars of the war, and exposes the tension between the dynamism of a new generation and the invisible bondage of an older generation for whom wartime allegiances, and animosities, are rendered no less vivid by the passage of time. A novel of revenge and redemption that tells us much about both where Vietnam is headed and where it has been.”) “The bottom line,” says Denny Todd, “is that I think it’s sad and pathetic that the Allen campaign has nothing but senseless attacks. They can’t run on the issues and it’s just sad.. Obviously they’re desperate, they’ll do anything to win, and that includes taking things out of context, lying and distorting facts. And of course they get people like Drudge and Fox News to help them.”*

By RW-(the original)

October 29, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Good morning DebbieDumbA$$,

*Democratic Presidential candidate Michael Dukakis was the governor of Massachusetts at the time, and while he did not start the furlough program, he had supported it as a method of rehabilitation. The State inmate furlough program was actually signed into law by Governor Francis W. Sargent in 1972. However, in 1976, Governor Dukakis vetoed a bill that would have made inmates convicted of first-degree murder ineligible for furloughs. The program remained in effect through the intervening term of governor Edward J. King and was abolished during Dukakis’s final term of office on April 28, 1988. This abolition only occurred after the Lawrence Eagle Tribune had run 175 stories about the furlough program and won a Pulitzer Prize. Dukakis continued to argue that the program was 99% effective, yet as the Lawrence Eagle Tribune pointed out, in no other state or in the federal furlough program would a prisoner serving life without parole as Horton was be eligible for a furlough.

Apparently this is what Dukakis calls just the other 1%:

On April 3, 1987 in Oxon Hill, Maryland, Horton twice raped a local woman after pistol-whipping, knifing, binding, and gagging her fiancé. He then stole the car belonging to the man he had assaulted, but was later captured by police after a chase. On October 20, Horton was sentenced in Maryland to two consecutive life terms plus 85 years. The sentencing judge refused to return Horton to Massachusetts, saying, “I’m not prepared to take the chance that Mr. Horton might again be furloughed or otherwise released. This man should never draw a breath of free air again.” This was reported in the October 1987 Reader’s Digest.

By DebbieDoRight

October 29, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

We’re Gonna….Raise….Your….Taxes!! :

so r u saying that there were/are no homosexuals who served in VietNam, or r u saying that there are no homosexuals presently residing in VietNam? I don’t get it. I saw a special a couple of years back, that interviewed a lot of Viet Nam War Veterans and Medal Honorees that were homosexual. Not every one who served, died and bled were heterosexual. And sometimes, as seen in prison, homosexuality is just an “sexual act of convenience” in a lot of cases. Ever see the movie Kiss of the Spider Woman?

By We're Gonna....Raise....Your....Taxes!!

October 29, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoesThePinkoNation: You can take McCain, please.

That only makes it even more sick, sick, sick.

By the whole truth

October 29, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

Debbie, that’s the problem with neocons.

They are simply incapable of separating fiction from reality.

And this flaw is by no means limited to books.

By DebbieDoRight

October 29, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

RW the original Tranny: Good Morning 2 u 2!!! good to c u r up and calling names early in the a.m.!!

How’s your little rubber friend, (you know the “special” one you keep in the closet and blow up every night?), I think you call him “Bob”, how’s he doing? I hope you’re checking for holes, (well, u know what type of holes I mean), just to make sure he can last during the upcoming elections and the long holidays. I know you’ll need the support and companionship only his little rubber “hands” can give.

OK to respond to your jest, first of all I’m so glad you love Wikipedia!! The most inept search engine in America!! Did you know ANYONE can post on that thing? Even u!! Secondly, a REPUBLICAN GOVENOR’s SIGNATRE started the program, not Dukakis’. Third, if out of the hundreds of prisoners that were furloughed and only one was the odd man out then yes that would make it 99% effective, (simple math). Fourth, sure this guy should have NEVER been furloughed, but it happened. Should Dukakis pay forever for the ONE that went bad? If yes to that question, should u, prime half-male specimen that you are, pay forever for your mistakes?

Think carefully on that one. I know u might have to ask “Bob” for his opinion (probably the only sane opinion in your house), but get back with me when you have a viable answer. Oh yeah and keep that right hand strong!!!

By getalife

October 29, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

The sickest people in this country are the hypocrites who call themselves Christians and lie, cheat, steal, torture and kill in the name of God.

By DebbieDoRight

October 29, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoesThePinkoNation: You can take McCain, please.That only makes it even more sick, sick, sick.

I honestly don’t understand your hostility. I have never been to VietNam nor do I know their customs,mores etc. but someone who has, (McCain), saw this book as a factual representation of VietNam, so why all the hoopla? Oh and I’m pretty mellow but if you wanna start name calling then so be it.

Why are you so homophobic? Me thinks the gentleman doth protests too much. That’s a bite off from Shakespeare, basically what I’m trying to say is: U Jealous?

By DebbieDoRight

October 29, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

They are simply incapable of separating fiction from reality. And this flaw is by no means limited to books.

So true, so true.

By DebbieDoRight

October 29, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

However, in 1976, Governor Dukakis vetoed a bill that would have made inmates convicted of first-degree murder ineligible for furloughs. The program remained in effect through the intervening term of governor Edward J. King and was abolished during Dukakis’s final term of office on April 28, 1988.

Tranny: Ok so u r saying that Dukakis skipped a term as govenor? Correct? If so, why didn’t this Edward J. King abolish the practice? Maybe because it was working just fine until ONE PERSON screwed it up?

By DebbieDoRight

October 29, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

A 13 y.o. and a 14 y.o. having sex……hmmm reminds me of Shakespeare, u know Romeo & Juliet? Wow never knew one of the greatest love stories written was from a dirty old man.

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 29, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

By DebbieDoesThePinkoNation October 29, 2006 11:20 AM {{{I honestly don’t understand your hostility.}}}} {{{{{Why are you so homophobic?}}}} Me thinks the gentleman doth protests too much. That’s a bite off from Shakespeare, basically what I’m trying to say is: U Jealous?

That^^ was either a wild mood swing, a personality change or a total loss of self awareness, 3 to 1 she still doesn’t see the hypocrisy but whatever:

So, what do two people who actually KNOW Vietnam and were deeply affected by it have to say about “Lost Soldiers.” First, Senator John McCain, who was horribly tortured in a North Vietnamese prison and who now has (sadly) endorsed George Allen for re-election: James Webb’s new novel paints a portrait of a modern Vietnam charged with hopes for the future but haunted by the ghosts of its war-torn past. It captures well the lingering scars of the war, and exposes the tension between the dynamism of a new generation and the invisible bondage of an older generation for whom wartime allegiances, and animosities, are rendered no less vivid by the passage of time. A novel of revenge and redemption that tells us much about both where Vietnam is headed and where it has been.

1) This line of defense leads one to believe that you also find James Webb’s, democrat, Virginia, thoughts disgusting but since McCain like’s reading about Fathers su-cking, well you know what I mean, then it’s a Republican “problem” too.

2) Only thing is, I don’t see McCain addressing that part of the novel^^.

Who knows, maybe he had a private intervention with Webb, democrat, Virginia over his thoughts of homosexual pedophile incest, who are we to say?

All I know is that Webb is sick, sick, sick.

By RW-(the original)

October 29, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

DebbieDumbA$$,

I thought last time we spoke you were supposed to blow “my little friend”

  • Can you find one erroneous citation in the link I provided or did you just want to smear the source? Wiki tends to be pretty accurate when it comes to historical and referenced material. It’s open authorship also makes it kind of like a blog in that you liberals can spew misinformation and we can come along behind you and correct the record.

  • A Massachusetts Republican did begin the program. The legislature took steps to make sure no Willie Horton’s would end up on the street and Dukakis vetoed it.

  • Simple math would only be 99% if exactly 100 prisoners were furloughed and one screwed up. Since, as you point out, 100’s were furloughed then if we are to believe Dukakis many more innocent people were terrorized by vicious predators he let out on the streets.

  • Dukakis isn’t paying for this forever as you claim. He just didn’t get to be President back in 1988 and if liberals and liberal-for-the-day-Jim Wooten would quit claiming the Willie Horton ad was unfair we would stop pointing out that it was completely fair and accurate to boot.

    • By getalife

    October 29, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

    The racist Allen is refusing to turn over his arrest record.

    What is he hiding?

    Webb will win Virginia.

    Well, if the voting machines to do stop it.

    All they have now are the voting machines.

    By Sailor

    October 29, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

    Other than oral sex with men with me and a few other guys, Andie is still a virgin.

    By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

    October 29, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

    By DebbieDoRight October 29, 2006 11:42 AM A 13 y.o. and a 14 y.o. having sex hmmm reminds me of Shakespeare, u know Romeo & Juliet? Wow never knew one of the greatest love stories written was from a dirty old man.

    Funny, I don’t remember Shakespeare describing Romeo’s thing for his reading audience.

    Maybe I missed something.

    Webb didn’t.

    Sick, sick, sick.

    By DebbieDoRight

    October 29, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

    Taxes):

    WHAT hypocrisy? It’s a BOOOOKKK a work of FICCCTTION that is historically relevant sort of like “Gone With The Wind” but with a first person perspective by people who were really there. Gosh, Open the door come out of the closet and be free!!! Hiding only makes you a miserable, irritated, fat old man, who doesn’t get any se#, and ends up playing with little rubber boy dolls, (see Tranny).

    This line of defense leads one to believe that you also find James Webb’s, democrat, Virginia, thoughts disgusting but since McCain like’s reading about Fathers su-cking, well you know what I mean, then it’s a Republican “problem” too.

    HUH??!! R u home alone drinking ur breakfast? where did i eve INFER that?

    Only thing is, I don’t see McCain addressing that part of the novel^^.

    Most people who endorse novels read the WHOLE NOVEL. Now I don’t know Sen. McCain, maybe he is the type of person who would endorse something without fully reading it to see what it is. I mean after all, he is a republican.

    By the whole truth

    October 29, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

    So all the Americans who served in Vietnam spent their spare time studying Scripture and attending Bible class. Nothing stronger than Pepsi touched their lips. They all returned as virginal as they left.

    And the untold thousands of babies with European or African features born to Vietnamese women then were the result of a miraculous wave of immaculate conceptions that ended when the last Americans left.

    And the moon is made of green cheese.

    Like I said, neocons can’t tell fact from fiction. And they have a really rough time with fact based fiction.

    That kind of stupid shouldn’t come with voting rights.

    getalife, it IS strange about Allen’s past. The boy’s got lots of skeletons in his closet. And that’s fact, not fiction.

    By DebbieDoRight

    October 29, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

    Can you find one erroneous citation in the link I provided or did you just want to smear the source? Wiki tends to be pretty accurate when it comes to historical and referenced material

    That’s what I like to hear when I read history. “This text is pretty accurate but we still must put a disclaimer on it in case we get sued”.

    A Massachusetts Republican did begin the program. The legislature took steps to make sure no Willie Horton’s would end up on the street and Dukakis vetoed it.

    Yes and according to your OWN POST there was another governor after Dukakis vetoed it. Why didn’t THAT GOVERNOR abolish the program? Maybe because it was (gasp) working?

    Simple math would only be 99% if exactly 100 prisoners were furloughed and one screwed up

    By jove I think he’s got it!

    Dukakis isn’t paying for this forever as you claim. He just didn’t get to be President back in 1988 and if liberals and liberal-for-the-day-Jim Wooten would quit claiming the Willie Horton ad was unfair we would stop pointing out that it was completely fair and accurate to boot

    It was unfair because of it’s RACIAL undertones. Let’s say your assessment was correct and that there were others inmates who “screwed” up on the furlough program. Why didn’t the Repugs point out any of them? Why did they pick Willie Horton and then when they did their focus grousp distintctly say, “What if you knew that Dukakis released on furlough a black man who then…….blah blah blah”? Why didn’t they put a WHITE FACE to the failure of the furlough program? hmmmmm try to work that out in your pretty little head for me.

    I thought last time we spoke you were supposed to blow “my little friend”

    You’re talking about your anatomy? Oh no! sorry you’re talking about Bob!! Hey, dude that’s your job!! I don’t wanna take away the little joy you have left in your sad, sad, world.

    PS: Maybe “little” is too big of a word to describe your anatomy…….perhaps miniscule would fit better.

    By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

    October 29, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

    By DebbieDoRight October 29, 2006 12:02 PM Taxes): WHAT hypocrisy?

    Like I said, she can’t even see it:

    By DebbieDoesThePinkoNation October 29, 2006 11:20 AM {{{I honestly don’t understand your hostility.}}}}

    In the very same message:

    By DebbieDoesThePinkoNation October 29, 2006 11:20 AM {{{{{Why are you so homophobic?}}}}

    I don’t understand your hostility either, hypocrite.

    By DebbieDoRight October 29, 2006 12:02 PM This line of defense leads one to believe that you also find James Webb’s, democrat, Virginia, thoughts disgusting HUH??!! R u home alone drinking ur breakfast? where did i eve INFER that?

    I had already moved beyond your hysterical lame-o a-ss and was addressing liberals as a group. A sure clue would be no “DebbieDoesThePinkoNation” before my comments.

    You’re not as important as you’d like to believe, dearie.

    By RW-(the original)

    October 29, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

    DebbieDumbA$$,

    The Republican ad never showed Willie Horton or mentioned his race.

    Care to try again?

    By DebbieDoRight

    October 29, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

    Funny, I don’t remember Shakespeare describing Romeo’s thing for his reading audience. Maybe I missed something.

    First Shakespeare wrote PLAYS. Second, since you’re a guy you probably have NEVER read women’s romantic fiction. Let me give you an excerpt:

    “I allowed my gaze to drop to the desk where his hands rested. They were big and powerful looking. Imagining them stroking my naked body as we lay in bed together made my cheeks burn.” True Love by Michelle Garcia

    By DebbieDoRight

    October 29, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

    Toking (smoke): I can understand your feelings about pedophilia if this was in fact a case against pedophilia, however, this is a fictional account of something that has (seemingly, since i’ve never been to VietNam), happened before and has been seen by Webb and McClain in VietNam done by the indigenous people. I have not read the book YOU HAVE NOT READ the book; however you deem yourself an expert on what the book entails from an excerpt in the book. Classic repuglican thinking.

    By the whole truth

    October 29, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

    You can have your “reality” sicko.

    That was reality for many Americans in Vietnam. NOBODY has said otherwise.

    You can’t handle the truth.

    But keep on trashing Webb. Waste your time. You’d be wasting your time even if Atlanta were in Virginia.

    Which it’s not. Yet another reality you can’t grasp.

    By RW-(the original)

    October 29, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

    I think I’ll get out of here before DebbieDoesPenthouseLetters gets cranked up.

    See ya!

    By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

    October 29, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

    By DebbieDoesThePinkoNation October 29, 2006 12:22 PM Funny, I don’t remember Shakespeare describing Romeo’s thing for his reading audience. Maybe I missed something. First Shakespeare wrote PLAYS. Second, since you’re a guy you probably have NEVER read women’s romantic fiction. Let me give you an excerpt: “I allowed my gaze to drop to the desk where his hands rested. They were big and powerful looking. Imagining them stroking my naked body as we lay in bed together made my cheeks burn.” True Love by Michelle Garcia](R)

    DebbieDoesThePinkoNation: I probably shouldn’t ask but what does this have to do with some sick pervert, James Webb, democrat, Virginia, writing descriptive paragraphs about the genitalia of thirteen year old boys??

    Or what does this have to do with anything for that matter??

    Are you “getting off” all by yourself this morning or what??

    By DebbieDoRight

    October 29, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

    The Republican ad never showed Willie Horton or mentioned his race.

    Bush Sh#t!! Go here Tranny and see for your self:

    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/candidates/ad.archive/horton.mov

    Care to try again?

    By DebbieDoRight

    October 29, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

    Bye Tranny say hello to your little blow up thingy for me!!

    By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

    October 29, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

    By the whole truth October 29, 2006 12:31 PM You can have your “reality” sicko. That was reality for many Americans in Vietnam. NOBODY has said otherwise. You can’t handle the truth.

    Great, we got the libs on record being in favor of homosexual pedophilia incest, at least until a Republican gets caught doing it.

    But keep on trashing Webb. Waste your time. You’d be wasting your time even if Atlanta were in Virginia. Which it’s not. Yet another reality you can’t grasp.

    Huh, almost like Mark Foley is from Atlanta too, eh, stroker?

    What a bunch of jags.

    By the whole truth

    October 29, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

    writing descriptive paragraphs about the genitalia of thirteen year old boys??

    Descriptive pragraphs? Not even close.

    But you’re really “hung up” on this, aren’t you?

    Hmmmmm. Tut tut. Shame on you.

    By DebbieDoRight

    October 29, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

    Or what does this have to do with anything for that matter??

    Idiot you’re the one who brought it up in the first place!!! Sheesh!! Do you have ADD or something?!?!? I’ve spent enough time conversing with the village idiot. See u around Toking it’s supposed to be a beautiful day, I think i’ll go outside and enjoy. You however, keep tap, tap, tapping on your computer and enjoy the rest of your twisted, lonely day.

    Hey, come out the closet and enjoy your life!!

    By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

    October 29, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

    By DebbieCutAndRun October 29, 2006 12:47 PM See u around Toking it’s supposed to be a beautiful day, I think i’ll go outside and enjoy.

    Gay pride parade?

    Two year old female circumcision demonstration, it’s a cultural thing?

    My life is better than your life even though I have no idea who the hell your are theme park ride?

    Hahaha, sick, sick, sick.

    Go Bears!!

    By the whole truth

    October 29, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

    Idiot— so if you don’t write about what happened, it didn’t happen?

    Your fact/fiction nuerosis is deeper than I thought.

    And if you do write about it, you’re endorsing it?

    Then I guess you’re a really sick whackjob because that’s all you’ve written about.

    You’re a perv. Your own hand confirms it. In more ways than one, I’m sure.

    By time for the truth

    October 29, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

    Lets ALL LAUGH and LAUGH at Sick Willie the sexual predator and the shrewish HiTllary … this is just too funny and so richly deserved … still at least The Stones get paid - eh!! …huge we all hate the Klintons smirk

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?inarticleid=413214&inpageid=1770

    if one reads all the witty comments on this hilarious story the smirks more than double!! funny how the YanKKKee FAR LEFT PRESS KEPT THIS QUIET … but there’s NO liberal press bias of course!!

    By Political Foreskin

    October 29, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

    I have to share what I just saw. They’re having live ammo artillery demonstrations with hundreds of pounds of gun powder over at the local civil war national park. Within 50 feet of the caison of gunpowder they have a open campfire. I pulled the leader of these reenactors over and pointed out the liability. He wasn’t very appreciative of my input. My conscience is clear. There are dozens of tourists standing around oblivious to the danger.

    Historical fact: The first casualties of the civil war occurred at Fort Sumter, when after the bombardment and surrender, a pile of gunpowder ignited during a 21 gun salute the confederates were honoring the surrendering yankees with. It was an accident. These civil war buffs should know this and act accordingly.

    By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

    October 29, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

    Webb writes about what he saw in Vietnam as a Marine - no wonder it sounds so wierd to all you filthy CHICKENHAWK rednecks who are to cowardly to leave your trailers.

    The Vietnamese are like Arabs and southerners - lots of male-male sexual activity, and no incest taboos.

    By getalife

    October 29, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

    Getting closer to get our country back from these sickos.

    Let the investigations begin and watch the snowball effects of all the criminals locked up.

    The world is waiting.

    By the whole truth

    October 29, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this

    Two year old female circumcision demonstration, it’s a cultural thing?

    Why bring this up??? You really are hung up on sex, aren’t you?

    My life is better than your life even though I have no idea who the hell your are theme park ride?

    Are you drunk? High?? Or just an illiterate suffering a panic attack? Calm down. Breathe deep.

    Hahaha, sick, sick, sick.

    Maybe take your medication? Go snuggle up with your Willie Horton pics. Don’t forget the kleenex.

    By RW-(the original)

    October 29, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

    Now see what I mean by Conservatives having to come back and clean up the lies from the loopy left. In this case it’s DebbieDumbA$$ linking to a Willie Horton ad with a teeny tiny picture from back in the day when the audio disclaimer wasn’t required.

    What do we find when we blow up the screen capture of the ad she linked?

    Why we find out that ad she linked was a private ad.

    Care to try again, DDA?

    By Melody M

    October 29, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

    It’s a private add that the Republicans have already owned up to. That ad was the cause of the legislation to disclose who was behind these so-called “private ads.”

    Why are you brave men attacking someone after they left the post? Scared to say it to her face?

    By Melody M

    October 29, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

    Stupid — no one said it was o.k. they said it was what someone saw when they were in another country. As in someone may have seen you in your dirty underwear, scratching yourself, and pulling buggers out of your nose.

    By Melody M

    October 29, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

    By We’re Gonna…Raise..Your……Taxes!!!!:

    dude you have some real anger issues. perhaps you need a hug.

    By the whole truth

    October 29, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

    Melody,

    The neocons here would have you believe that the 1988 Bush campaign had absolutely no clue that the Willie Horton ad was in the works, and that the Bush camp reacted in horror when it came out.

    And the moon is made of green cheese.

    If the Bush campaign was so clueless, why did Lee Atwater apologize for the ads on his deathbed?

    By getalife

    October 29, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

    Melody M,

    He needs more than a hug.

    He has major mental problems.

    He has split personalities that posts under many names.

    He goes off very easily and is drug and alcohol addicted.

    He is the gop.

    By Midori

    October 29, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

    getalife,

    you forgot to add that he is a closeted homosexual who constantly makes that claim of others.

    watch him: whenever he gets cornered he plays the “gay” card.

    By RW-(the original)

    October 29, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

    Melody M,

    Perhaps you can tell us how to rebut something before it’s posted?

    By getalife

    October 29, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

    Midori,

    Remember when he posted “not that there is anything wrong with that”.

    He claims he is married to a minority but he lies so much, he has as much credibilty as W and Cheney.

    By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

    October 29, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

    macacalife: Who’s making the hay over Foley and at the same time giving Webb a pass?

    Sick, sick, sick.

    By @@

    October 29, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

    Jim: I see you’ve moved on from Friday’s free-for-all <——— that’s a rather socialistic term for a conservative to be promoting, don’t you think?

    Anyway. How can anyone address the issue of despicable campaigns which attack an opponent’s family without visiting good ole Clayton County where families in politics have undermined the voters.

    I know you’re familiar with the circus down this way Jim. Lee Scott(D), with a less than stellar past in terms of ethics, manages his wife (Jewel Scott’s) campaign for District Attorney. Jewel Scott had never tried a criminal case in her life. It was purported during her campaign that her opponent Bob Keller (D.A. for 27 years) had not administered justice fairly among the races. Completely false. Mrs. Scott won the election and presently serves as Clayton County’s D.A and has proven to be soft on crime.

    After Mrs. Scott’s victory, Lee Scott(D) begins campaigning for a commission seat. He had done this one time before, and lost by a narrow margin. In his second attempt he used lies & distortions against his opponent and lost his bid by a very substantial number of votes.

    Oh, btw Jim, Lee Scott(D) headed up the campaign for another family jewel who won here in Clayton. Who hasn’t heard of our notorious Sheriff, Victor Hill, an embarrassing clown who’s costing us a fortune in self-promoting lawsuits.

    There’s family and then there’s extended family (racial). Lee Scott(D) was able to fool the voters here in Clayton County who are 70% black twice, but they have seen the score and gave him what he deserved in his last bid for office. THEY GAVE HIM THE BOOT.

    I do, however, worry about the influence he wields from behind the scenes when it comes to justice here in Clayton County.

    By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

    October 29, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

    “Thinking about any hardships you might have suffered since the U.S.-Britain invasion, do you personally think ousting Saddam Hussein was worth it or not?” The answer for 61 percent: Yes, it was worth it.-RealClearPolitics

    {^*^}

    Too many of us are only good at enjoying freedom. That war-is-never-the-answer 25 percent are in essence saying that there’s nothing about America worth fighting for, and that, ultimately, the continuation of their society is a bet on the kindness of strangers — on the goodnaturedness of Kim Jong Il and the mullahs and al-Qaida and what the president called “al-Qaida lookalikes and al-Qaida wannabes” and whatever nuclear combination thereof comes down the pike. Some of us don’t reckon that’s a good bet, and think America’s arms-are-for-hugging crowd need to get real. Van den Boogaard’s arms are likely to be doing rather less of their preferred form of hugging in the European twilight.-ChicagoSunTimesSteyn

    {^*^}

    Yesterday’s presidential visit to Clark County, the first since Lyndon B. Johnson stopped here in 1964 to dedicate a post office, sent this tiny town into a tizzy. Residents lined the streets awaiting the motorcade, and businesses along Indiana Avenue posted “Welcome President Bush” signs. The 4,000 supporters packed into a high school gymnasium remained on their feet throughout the president’s 33-minute speech. They booed whenever Mr. Bush mentioned Democrats such as “the member from California, the ranking leader, the minority leader in the House, who wants to be the speaker ….” Rep. Nancy Pelosi, he said, claims to “love tax cuts.” “Given her record, she must be a secret admirer,” he said. Ticking off a list of votes the San Francisco liberal has cast against tax cuts, he broke the crowd up when he leaned into the microphone and shouted: “If this is the Democrats’ idea of love, I wouldn’t want to see what hate looks like.”-WashingtonTimes

    {^*^}

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein told The San Francisco Chronicle editorial board Monday that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld should resign and that the United States should set a timetable for withdrawing its troops from Iraq. Polls, she said, show that Iraqis want Americans to leave. Perhaps President Bush could replace Rumsfeld with John Zogby or some other pollster, as Washington’s alleged leadership argues that public opinion should dictate what America does in Iraq.-RealClearPolitics

    {^*^}

    Do you know your candidate?:

    From the perspective of the activist Left, [rednecks] are the greatest obstacles to what might be called the collectivist taming of America, symbolized by the edicts of political correctness. And for the last fifty years the Left has been doing everything in its power to sue them, legislate against their interests, mock them in the media, isolate them as idiosyncratic, and publicly humiliate their traditions in order to make them, at best, irrelevant to America’s future growth.—from Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America, by James Webb (2004)

    {^*^}

    As 2006 election day approaches, Democratic leaders seem determined to build hatred toward the president of the United States, and the Republicans paint many of the Democrats as unpatriotic. Almost any policy proposed by the president is attacked by the Democrats. One of the most treasured statements near the end of World War II was made by Republican Sen. Arthur Vandenberg of Michigan, who in January 1945, said: “Politics stops at the water’s edge.” His admonition was followed, and it certainly gave no comfort to the enemy. The extreme opposite of Vandenberg’s philosophy was led by Jane Fonda during the Vietnam War.-WashingtonTimes

    {^*^}

    Pelosi is fond of deflecting the “San Francisco Democrat” charge by noting that as a mother and grandmother, she’s hardly the left-wing icon figure her critics allege. But there is no denying her voting record over eight terms as one of the most liberal members of the House of Representatives. Pelosi’s lifetime rating by the Americans for Democratic Action, the liberal benchmark for members of Congress, is 96 percent. Her lifetime rating by the counterpart American Conservative Union is 2 percent.-SanDiegoUnion

    {^*^}

    Moreover, the United States of 2006 is not the United States of 1941. The nation is divided politically and culturally. A military culture that still exhibits heroism and bravery is excoriated by liberal elites. A president who responds to attack and threats is criticized as a warmonger. And the media organs are far more interested in perceived internal threats to civil liberties than in mobilizing arguments against radical Islam.-WashingtonTimes

    {^*^}

    Most schoolchildren know Lincoln and the Republicans freed the slaves. But I doubt if students are much taught, nowadays, that Democrats were the party of the Confederacy, the Ku Klux Klan, Jim Crow laws, segregated water fountains, school-segregation, poll taxes, voter-literacy tests and Sheriff Bull Connor. (How many under-40 voters know this?) Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice grew up in Birmingham, Ala., in the Jim Crow era. She affirms that only Republicans would let black people vote.-WashingtonTimes

    {^*^}

    Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck!

    By the whole truth

    October 29, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

    What Webb wrote was fiction. What Foley did is fact, highlighted by the promptness of his record-setting resignation. Fiction vs. fact. Only oxygen starved brains can’t see this difference.

    Please tell us what mind altering substances you are abusing, so we can warn our children.

    By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

    October 29, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

    Foley shared his perversion with a couple of pages, never touching any of them, and rightfully resigned.

    Webb shared his perversion with the world, never touching anyone, and is making excuses like a liberal.

    It’s in the voter’s hands now, dic-khead.

    By Political Foreskin

    October 29, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

    I’ve got a $4 off coupon for one of those new multi-blade tech-shaving wonders of disposable splendor. I’m going to take the plunge and buy one. You see, every year at Halloween I shave my balls to scare my wife, and this time, I’m forgoing the usual bolo knife. This time, safety first. My wife never sees this coming, just the way I never see her PMS coming nor do I recognize it for what it is, and I always get punked by it.

    I need someone to step forward and save me from my marriage.

    By getalife

    October 29, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this

    Yes Andy,

    And the gop booed Pelosi for demanding a Foley investigation.

    Not to mention, they want to try to steal Social Security again .

    Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 but the gop wants to stay so more will die for Iraq to be Iran’s ally.

    By getalife

    October 29, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

    Andy fails to mention the Foley coverup by the gop.

    He never admits the gop failures.

    By the whole truth

    October 29, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this

    Webb wrote fiction. So in your book, Shakespeare’s a mass murderer? Don’t tell me you’re that clueless. Foley? A perv. And so are you if you defend him.

    I’m afraid to ask what’s in your hand… dic-khead. Take another toke or drink or whatever.

    By the whole truth

    October 29, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

    Oh, and “thanks” for the Washington Times link, perv. That rag is clearly not reality based.

    “Politics stops at the water’s edge.”

    Really?? Like Republicans when Clinton sent Americans to the Balkans??

    What a crock-ful of garbage.

    By getalife

    October 29, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

    The time is near to vote for accountability.

    It is the only way we will get it for all the failures and corruption.

    The world is watching and waiting.

    By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

    October 29, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

    Finally, Andi/e’s problem is identified - his/her father was Vietnamese.

    By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

    October 29, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

    Excuses, excuses:

    RICHMOND — Five female graduates of the U.S. Naval Academy said Wednesday that Democratic Senate candidate James Webb legitimized a hostile climate at the institution by writing a 1979 magazine article arguing that women were unfit for combat. The article Women Can’t Fight was published just three years after women were first admitted to the Naval Academy, Webb’s alma mater. “There is a place for women in our military, but not in combat,” Webb wrote. “And their presence at institutions dedicated to the preparation of men for combat command is poisoning that preparation.” Kathleen Murray of Norfolk, a 1984 Naval Academy graduate, said she initiated efforts to get women who had graduated from the academy to speak out against Webb, saying the Democrat “is especially undeserving of the vote of the woman veteran and those women who are serving honorably on active duty today, many in combat leadership positions.” “There is no question that James Webb’s attitudes and philosophy were major factors behind the unnecessary abuse and hazing received by me and my fellow women midshipmen,” said Murray, who served 20 years in the Navy. “This article was brandished repeatedly by our male upperclassmen. They quoted it and they used it as an excuse to mistreat us, in spite of official Naval Academy policy.” He wrote that he had never met a woman “whom I would trust to provide those men with combat leadership.”

    There’s a little non fiction for ya.

    Sick, sick, sick.

    By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

    October 29, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

    By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka’s Al Qaeda I October 29, 2006 05:17 PM Finally, Andi/e’s problem is identified - his/her father was Vietnamese.

    Why would that be a “problem,” pinko pope?

    Some more of that liberal racism?

    By John

    October 29, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this

    I am an attorney who has both won and lost appeals before Justice Hunstein. That said, I always have respected her and—until this past week—have felt she was infinitely more qualified than her opponent. However, her attack ad was totally inappropriate. She should apologize to Georgia voters and—even if elected—should resogn her post. The ad was over the top.

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