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Celebs who adopt, Reid, traffic relief
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thinking Right’s free-for-all Friday. Pick a topic:
• Good question posed by Pam Wilson of the Johannesburg Child Welfare Society in South Africa on the news that Madonna and husband Guy Ritchie have adopted a 1-year-old Malawian child: “Are celebrities doing it for the right reasons and not to make a statement?” A child rights group in Malawi asks Madonna to help fund programs that allow children to stay in their own communities. Methinks celebrities are making statements.
• Adults can spend their discretionary income on high school booster clubs. Or sports cars or lottery tickets. To excess, there’s danger in all. Otherwise, it’s just another way to connect parents to schools.
• Ten brides in 12 months, including two within four hours. In a world of marriage fraud and mortgage fraud, Democrats are appalled that anybody would suggest that vote fraud is real and that a photo ID is necessary. They don’t kid themselves. Us, they do.
• In metro Atlanta, 4.5 percent of commuters say working from home is a better congestion-relief solution than the 3.7 percent who think public transit is the answer. Makes sense. It’s not a “choice” or “alternative” if transit service doesn’t come where we are, go when and where we want and free up space on the freeway. An option that serves only 3.7 percent of commuters fails the test.
• When Fulton Superior Court Judge Craig Schwall says “now it is my time to speak,” watch out. With repeat-offender child molester Michael J. Pearson, he got right to the point: “Your perverted and morally repugnant conduct is most repulsive and despicable and cuts to the core of evil. Clearly you have no conscience. What you are and do and what you are all about is offensive to the souls and the conscience of a civilized society.” He gave Pearson life without parole. “I am vehemently, adamantly, without equivocation of any kind or type whatsoever, opposed to parole for this defendant ever.” Put him on the high court.
• One good reason not to name buildings, roads and bridges for living politicians: Former U.S. Sen. Max Cleland praises Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) as “one of the most ethical men I know” in an op-ed that ran just as the news broke that Reid had used campaign contributions for Christmas gifts for the hired help at his upscale Washington condo. Earlier, the Associated Press revealed that Reid collected $1.1 million on Nevada property that he hadn’t personally owned for three years. Reid reveals why naming honors should never go to the living. The breathing can embarrass; the dead can’t.
• Come December, when the partisan political operatives are back in their lair for a season’s sleep, we will reflect on the most-hyped stories of the season. Top candidate now is former U.S. Rep. Mark Foley’s e-mail sex talk. It should be evident to all, as a venter observed, that House Speaker Dennis Hastert would have been “drummed out of office because of his homophobia” had he attempted to punish Foley in 2003 for overly friendly e-mails to young men.
• Wall Street money-changers failed to get the word that they’re supposed to favor Republicans. Democrat congressional candidates got $6.1 million from bigwigs at 11 securities firms, while Republicans got $5.1 million, according to Bloomberg Markets. Money has no conscience, loyalty or party affiliation. It goes to power.
• If Powder Springs can convey to an individual the privilege of parking and flying his helicopter in another jurisdiction, Cobb County, without its approval and contrary to its zoning, the General Assembly needs to act. Good to know he’s decided to ground his chopper for the time being.
• A Lovejoy City Council member, allegedly a cantankerous sort, is said to have announced “I’m resigning — right now” before leaving a council meeting. Overjoyed, other city officials took him up on it and called a special election. The councilman, Arlie Aukerman, has been wronged. Hotheaded comments in public debate may be dumb, but unless he formally quits, his enemies are just playing games. The dispute is now in Superior Court. Verdict for Aukerman.
• Verdict for Fulton County Sheriff Myron Freeman, too. Whatever his failings in managing the jail or his department, voters had the chance to inspect the goods prior to delivery. They saw, they considered, they bought. If he’s a lemon, he’s their lemon.
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By The way the truth the light
October 20, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this
Jim, I would ask that you try, on occasion, to be part of the solution and not the problem. Unfortunately, that would put you out of a job. It would be so boring to commend Madonna for adopting a child, as opposed to inciting your sheep with unfair speculation as to her motives. I guess that comment is unfair as well since I don’t know if your comments are speculative or based on your knowledge of Madonna’s true motivation – when did the two of you meet to discuss it?
It’s easy to announce the “final word” on what would’ve happened to Dennis Hastert had he responded properly to the news of Mark Foley’s improper communications. It’s too bad that we’ll never know how he would’ve been treated, since he swept it under the rug. To read your column, Democrats are the only ones guilty of sweeping controversy under the rug, or blindly and belligerently offering support to leaders who do.
I know, I know. You’re laughing all the way to the bank (with your paycheck) because you get paid to improve readership, not to speak the truth. It’s a shame that you can’t figure out some way to make a living that doesn’t tear at the fabric of society by stirring up the flock with one-liners, clichés, half-truths, and shallow attacks.
By Mid-South Philosopher
October 20, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
One of your points today is:
“Ten brides in 12 months, including two within four hours. In a world of marriage fraud and mortgage fraud, Democrats are appalled that anybody would suggest that vote fraud is real and that a photo ID is necessary. They don’t kid themselves. Us, they do.”
Although a “technocrat extraordinaire” (even to the point of supporting the substitution of keyboarding in the place of penmanship for the development of writing skills), I am more concerned about some “cyber terrorist” hacking into our electronic voting machines and manipulating the outcomes of elections. Call me old fashioned, but I favor the paper ballot. It is a lot of work, it is slow, and it is cumbersome. No one ever said the price of freedom was NOT high.
As for “ten brides in 12 months, including two within four hours,” man, I need some of that guy’s cereal, kool-aid, vitamins, or whatever the he** keeps him going!
Have a good day.
By James P.E. (*Professional Engineer*)
October 20, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this
Good morning all,
In metro Atlanta, 4.5 percent of commuters say working from home is a better congestion-relief solution than the 3.7 percent who think public transit is the answer. Makes sense. It’s not a “choice” or “alternative” if transit service doesn’t come where we are, go when and where we want and free up space on the freeway. An option that serves only 3.7 percent of commuters fails the test.
Are you really going to argue over 0.8 percent? Any scientific study gives a conservative +/-3 percent error, Jim. Even being generous, a +/- 1 percent error makes your statement idiotic! In the real world, 3.7 and 4.5 percent is the same unless you are talking taxes.
I know your journalism degree didn’t include much math, but just damn.
Who are you to question a person’s motive in adopting a child? A statement that says, “I love kids, so I want to take at least one child out of an impoverished situation.”
By Richard
October 20, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this
Jim must have heard that Madonna has gone Democrat.
By Aunt Bea
October 20, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this
Ouch! Michael Vick was almost as tough on Mora as Judge Schwall was on that repeat offender Michael Pearson.
The phrase, “cul de sac” is actually French for “heliport”.
Wooten is correct about naming roads and bridges after a living person. That’s why Spaghetti Junction is so perfect. After all, we do have a meatball for governor!!
Most hyped story? That we are safer now than we were six years ago.
Voter fraud? How about the way no republican is pointing to the GOP’s performance for the last six years!!
Bush promised to grow the economy and shrink taxes. All he’s done is to grow the hole in the Ozone, and shrink the Polar Ice Caps.
But today I’m very happy and excited. Bush will not ruin my day. Not today. I just found out that the complete third season of “The Facts of Life” is available next tuesday.
By Van
October 20, 2006 08:45 AM | Link to this
As one on the 4.5% that work from home, it is all true. Working from home has lowered my blood pressure and eased my stress levels. Fuel costs have dropped. instead of filling up once every 4 or 5 days, I now fill my tank once or twice a month.
Since I use to work in Alpharetta and lived out east in Snellville, I had no options regarding mass transit, if I had, I would have tried it.
One other benefit to working at home, I am allowed to kiss and hug my co-worker(wife) without fear of a law suit.
While there are many jobs out there that require a physical presence at the work site or to meet customers or clients, if any of you get the chance, take it.
By Trent Lott
October 20, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this
I for one commend Ms. Madonna’s recent purchase of the dark-skinned child from Malawi. As a proud Southerner, I recognize this old and honored tradition. This was an honorable transfer, with the broker of this chattel collecting his due fee. I understand Ms. Madonna even left behind some salt and beads for the child’s father.
As Republicans, we should applaud this transfer of human capital. If this tradition had stayed in place, we wouldn’t be having all these troubles we have now.
By Renee
October 20, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this
I notice Jim’s staying away from real political topics (which he’s actually paid to discuss) such as Iraq and N. Korea. Guess there’s no way he can put a positive Republican spin on those anymore.
By brenda
October 20, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this
If it were Michael Jackson or Britney Spears adopting children, then there should be an outcry. Madonna is a grown woman who has raised two beautiful children. I’d let her adopt me and I’m 25!
By DebbieDoRight
October 20, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this
Ten brides in 12 months, including two within four hours. In a world of marriage fraud and mortgage fraud, Democrats are appalled that anybody would suggest that vote fraud is real and that a photo ID is necessary. They don’t kid themselves.
At least in the bride instance they had PROOF that a crime was being committed. Alas, in the voting “fraud” you do not.
former U.S. Rep. Mark Foley’s e-mail sex talk. It should be evident to all, as a venter observed, that House Speaker Dennis Hastert would have been “drummed out of office because of his homophobia” had he attempted to punish Foley in 2003 for overly friendly e-mails to young men.
Please look up in Websters the definition for homosexuality, ephebophilia and pedophilia. After you’ve looked those up and you still don’t know the difference then I’ll excuse that ridiculous comparison. Obviously you just don’t understand simple english.
*When Fulton Superior Court Judge Craig Schwall says “now it is my time to speak,” watch out. With repeat-offender child molester Michael J. Pearson, he got right to the point: “Your perverted and morally repugnant conduct is most repulsive….He gave Pearson life without parole.”
This is a case of pedophilia. Now, quick question, why was this not blown into a “But he said he was sorry and resigned” battlecry for redemption? Pedophilia and ephebophilia a disease that keeps on giving.
Wall Street money-changers failed to get the word that they’re supposed to favor Republicans
That was what Jack Abramoff was for.
By Aunt Bea
October 20, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this
Spaghetti Junction: Why did they bother? This white elephant cost millions and millions of dollars, took hundreds of construction workers years to build, and cost the life of several men.
All that just to “alleviate the flow of traffic through the intersection of 85/75. Hell, I could have accomplished that with two yield signs and a blinking yellow light!
And have you ever tried to navigate that labyrinth of criss-crossing roads and bridges? There’s traffic above you, below you, on both sides, over here, over there, behind you, in front, at all levels and directions, intertwined and entangled.
It’s like trying to merge into Kudzu.
I hate Spaghetti Junction. I really have a problem with it. I cant stand road construction as a general principle, but this horrid cloverleaf from hell……
Aw, who am I trying to kid, I hate everything.
By Political Foreskin
October 20, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this
Hey Van, does your wife have an older sister for me?
By Jim Don't Get It
October 20, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this
Good morning Jim,
First off, mass transit isn’t convenient because individuals prefer to drive to the point that traffic is horrible; traffic is horrible because there’s not enough infrastructure to support it because the developers who bought our government officials led the way and increased density for their own personal gain without proper planning. Now that individuals would prefer an alternative to sitting in the traffic that they created with the help of the developers, it’s too late to build the mass transit system that some visionary leaders might had built were it not for the short sighted, phobia driven views of folks like yourself. Why do you have so much trouble putting all this together?
Maybe it’s because you and your sympathizers can’t see this either: So you may have noticed that I’ve been thinking about the “contract” quite a bit. My main interest in this is how a group of leaders can not only stand in front of a country with enough confidence in their position to not only point out a systemic problem, but completely marginalize and de-legitimize the opposition, and then go about systematically shelving everything they claimed to stand for? And then make all the same mistakes of greed and hubris they so self righteously pointed out as flaws in their counterparts? And then not be challenged on it? At all?
How can that happen? How can a group of leaders claim sole ownership of such things as morality, faith and family, sacred things, then be allowed to govern on the strength of a “contract” holding those things up, and then instantly crap all over those who elected them on the basis of those promises and not be challenged? Don’t you believe that is dangerous for Democracy?
So who is lacking in moral conviction? Answer that for me.
Mid-South Philospher, would you like to take a crack at that one?
Oh, and in case you haven’t read it lately:
REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA
As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.
That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.
This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.
Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.
On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:
FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;
SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;
FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;
SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
By deegee
October 20, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this
What’s the fundamental difference between Madonna adopting a child from Africa and my neighbor adopting a child from China? Everybody knows when Madonna sneezes, not so for my neighbor.
No one is naive enough to believe that voter fraud doesn’t exist. The issue is the timing and motivation of those enacting the law. Here is an example of why it’s an issue. http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/19/D8KS2P 100.html
For you fair and balanced fans, here is what you missed this morning at 7:00am. The Today show was reporting on Iraq and the news from Korea. CNN was reporting on the news from Korea. Fox and friends was reporting on the changing of the leaves in Banner Elk, NC.
By Aquagirl
October 20, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this
Nice recap of Judge Schwall’s comments. There’s a child molester rotting in jail right now! Makes my day!
But Jim, don’t be one of the Republican talking heads. To imply that the leadership(?)(!) didn’t investigate the Foley mess for fear of a vague Democrat/gay rights/liberal “drumming” is a disgusting spin. Now, I haven’t seen that Republican Contract With America lately, but didn’t it say something about restoring the accountability of Congress, and an alternative to “official evasion and posturing”? Oh, okay. Just admit that no one wanted to look for fear of actually finding something, and losing a seat in the house.
And I wish you had cited Cynthia McKinney as a good reason not to name anything after the living. Not that we should name anything after her, ever, except maybe a hair salon.
By DebbieDoRight
October 20, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this
How can a group of leaders claim sole ownership of such things as morality, faith and family, sacred things, then be allowed to govern on the strength of a “contract” holding those things up, and then instantly crap all over those who elected them on the basis of those promises and not be challenged?
Because they’re Politicians — first, last, and always. The added benefit is that they’re lying republican politicians.
By harold
October 20, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this
public transit is an option every time you vote for more roads or taxes for roads, fool
you must just love taxes. harold thought you were conservative?
the most conservative transit is public transit. it costs less than roads!
By Political Foreskin
October 20, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this
Scientists have developed a crude cloaking device. Maybe that’s what happened to the WMDs in downtown Baghdad: They’re right there, just cloaked.
Cheney says, “we are not looking for an exit strategy.” Right. You never had one. Why start looking for one now?
Bush compared Iraq to the Tet Offensive in Vietnam. I’m trying to see the connection…..Didn’t Bush desert during the time of vietnam? He’s not fighting this war either, but he’s the commander in chief, so technically he is a soldier…..he had to lie to get out of war during nam…..he had to lie to get in to war in Iraq…. but that’s hardly a parallel construct…..I dont see it at all.
Vietnam was fought against godless communism. Iraq is fought against….????
What are we fighting for? Who is the enemy in Iraq? What is the mission of US troops?
I honestly cant form the language to explain our presence there. anyone?
Be careful. You’ll end up lying to yourself or repeating bromides that have no existential justification whatsoever.
Walk softly boys……
By Humanitarian
October 20, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this
By Woodward is a back-stabing-jew who uses goim, then betrays, and moves on. Don’t ya get it yet? Goim are mere animals, to be cheated in anyway necessary for the greater good of zionist Izrael. We goim don’t count. Spell it any way you want Goyim, Goim, Goomin, its all the same Yiddish crap. Izrael takes our money every year (lots more than gets reported), makes the arab world hate us, gets us to send our stupid animal jesus-freak christian soldiers to die helping to exterminate the Arabs, and still betrays us at every opportunity. There is no gratitude. Look up Frank Pollard, and see why we have sent him to prision for life. I will summarize, since most of you are too stupid to do the work of looking it up and actually reading it. Frankie-the-jew was an analyst at DOD, where he snuck around and obtained a list of American spies inside the former Soviet Union (this was the early 80’s). Being a good little zionist traitor spy for izrael, Frankie-the-jew gave the list to his masters in the Mossad. The Mossad scum then traded the list to Russia for the release of a few hundred Russian jews to immigrate to Izrael. The Russians arrested the entire network of american spies listed by Frankie-the-jew and their entire families. They were tortured and ultimately executed. For that Frankie-the-jew will spend the rest of his life in an American prision, unless the Butt-Boy-of-Yale pardons him, per the wishes of wolfie, libbie and all the other jew-bastard-traitor spies currently calling themselves neo-conservatives
By Political Foreskin
October 20, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this
Why did they name Spaghetti Junction after our Meatball Governor??
By Traffic Engineer
October 20, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this
When oil is no longer available for your living-room-on-wheels, you right wing bigots are not welcome to ride on our mass transit. Stay the hell off Marta, CCT, GCT, etc, cause if you didn’t support it in the oil good times, the extra capacity won’t be there to carry your fat butt to work and the grocery store in the bad oil time.
By DebbieDoRight
October 20, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this
Best Comments So Far:
The Today show was reporting on Iraq and the news from Korea. CNN was reporting on the news from Korea. Fox and friends was reporting on the changing of the leaves in Banner Elk, NC.
I wish you had cited Cynthia McKinney as a good reason not to name anything after the living. Not that we should name anything after her, ever, except maybe a hair salon.
By Phil
October 20, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this
By Woodward is a back-stabing-jew who uses goim, then betrays, and moves on. Don’t ya get it yet? Goim are mere animals So basically what you are saying Mel, is that Jews are the cause of all the wars in the world?
By Aquagirl
October 20, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this
I thought spaghetti junction was named after a meatball DOT honcho. Very appropriate. You made the mess, you put your name on it, so everyone knows who to curse as they’re sitting in traffic.
By Van
October 20, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this
Political Foreskin,
Surely you must remember that the Tet Offensive was a terrible waste of man power. with a kill ratio of almost 15 to 1, the north vietnamese got their clocks cleaned.
The Tet offensive might even be called a pyrrhic victory, except the north did not come out the winner in that fight - a pyrrhic loss would be more descriptive.
While the terrorists in Iraq hae rachetted up the violence, they have taken terrible loses also. After the elections the levels of violence might go down, I guess we will have to wait and see.
By the way, we are fighting goddless people in Iraq, how could anyone proclaiming a belief in a supreme being walk into a crowd of civilians and detonate themself.
By JK
October 20, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this
Hey I just read that “Contract with America” thing, I LIKE IT! So much so, I think I’ll vote for these guys next month. Heck, why didn’t somebody think of this stuff before things got this bad?
By the way, when will they start implementing these fresh new ideas, and how long do you think it will take once the new Republican majority takes office in January? Three months? Six months? Certainly no more than a year, right? I CAN’T WAIT!
By Lemon Bush
October 20, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this
• Verdict for US President George W Bush, too. Whatever his failings in managing the war or the country, voters had the chance to inspect the goods prior to delivery. We saw, we considered, we bought. If he’s a lemon, he’s our lemon.
By Mel was Right, just to cowardly to stick by his words
October 20, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
Mel ain’t no hero, it takes guts to stand up to the pro-izrael lobby, and the career ending charge of “anti-semitism”. You can’t buy cover like that at any price, lie, cheat, steal, and if caught, yell “anti-semitism” and parade out a few holocaust survivors to tell their true tales of horror and betral. Phyco babblers say victims who survive brutality take on the characteristics of their captors. Holocaust survivors reportely (in the psyco babbler literature) treated their children like prisioners, and acted themselves like concentration camp guards. Israel itself has become more like Izrael the Nazi Germany clone in many ways. Imitation is the fondest form of flattery, so you jews must really admire the methods and brutality of your Nazi masters. The jews of the 1930’s have far more in common with the Arabs of today, and especially the Palistinians of today than with the zionist state of izrael and its efforts to exterminate the Arab peoples of the world.
By Yo Van, your ignorance is showing
October 20, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this
Van said it the Tet offensive “the north vietnamese got their clocks cleaned.” Wrong Van, the North vietnamese were involved very little it the Tet Offensive. It was the Viet Cong, you remember them don’t ya, the South Vietnamese freedom fighers trying to free their country from western domination? In Tet, the Viet Cong was virtually eliminated as an effective fighting force, and from that time on, the battle was taken over by their brothers in the North, the NVA. Read a book sometime Van, cause you are pumping out lies, again.
By sct
October 20, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this
Mel should adopt a little Israeli baby.
By Aquagirl
October 20, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this
We got our clocks cleaned at Pearl Harbor, but the Japanese don’t exactly celebrate that as a great victory.
It was a tactical win, but a strategic loss, since our joining the war eventually meant they would get their butts kicked. Winning a battle may not mean killing more of them, or taking a city, or whatever. It means doing what will lead to your winning the war.
If only the Bush administration understood the difference….
By getalife
October 20, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
They saw, they considered, they bought. If he’s a lemon, he’s their lemon.
Yes, w is a lemon and should be recalled.
By JoeD
October 20, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
I have to comment on what may be the most absurd thing Jim W has ever written (which is truly saying something). Denny Hastert would have been driven out of office for homophobia for addressing the Mark Foley situation in 2003? What? Huh? That remark rises to a new level of assininity, raises the bar for stupdiity to new heights. And it’s repeating something a venter said. What a source! Jim, inappropriate contact with children is inappropriate contact with children and always has been. If you are trying to infer that homosexuals would protect a potential child molester in order to push their political agenda, then you are even more misguided than I thought. This kind of comment is just further proof the GOP and its sheep cannot take responsibility for anything that goes on in the Congress.
By Fat Fuzzy Gay Guy
October 20, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this
Since having a Photo ID is such a good thing to prevent “voter fraud”, why doesn’t Jim also push for its use with “absentee ballots”? Is that because only Good White Republicans vote “absentee” and thus Those Folks don’t need to prove who they are?
By Support the Troops for REAL
October 20, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this
Hey War Lovers: Here is what HERO Pat Tillman’s brother has to say. I think his devotion to duty, sacrifice, and pain have earned him the right to your ear for a minute. Read this and then screech about how THIS MAN “doesn’t support the troops.” You know, if you actually have the ‘nads to read it.
Somehow back at home, support for the soldiers meant having a five-year-old kindergartener scribble a picture with crayons and send it overseas, or slapping stickers on cars, or lobbying Congress for an extra pad in a helmet. It’s interesting that a soldier on his third or fourth tour should care about a drawing from a five-year-old; or a faded sticker on a car as his friends die around him; or an extra pad in a helmet, as if it will protect him when an IED throws his vehicle 50 feet into the air as his body comes apart and his skin melts to the seat.
Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes.
Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground.
By Ode to the chickenhawks
October 20, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this
We’re determined that the brave sacrifices of the keyboarders be memorialized in an appropriate fashion. Many of them had to watch hours and hours of Fox news to gather strength for their screeds. Some of them refreshed the Drudge Report for hours at a time
Recognize these brave bloggers like Van, Realfake, Time to puke, etc….
By deegee
October 20, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this
Van, you told us last week that you’re screwing around on the job but I didn’t take it literally until today.
By JoeD
October 20, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this
Does anyone see a coherent thought in the first or third paragraphs that Jim wrote this morning? I guess the first one is that Hethinks celebrity adoptions are bad. But he offers no facts to support his conclusion that they are only making a statement. Methinks Jim doesn’t like celebrities. For #3, I’m guessing that he is trying to say that since there is real estate fraud and marriage fraud, there must be voter fraud and the ID is the only way to address it. But what does the sentence “They don’t kid themselves” have to do with anything.
By time for the truth
October 20, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this
the obsessed homosexual rednekkks NAMBLA and the other far left vermin on here get ever more desperate in their pathetic abuse. the more abusive these rabid irrational Bush hating traitors are the more fun it is to read. their effete mongrel like sneers are superb entertainment and the perfect encouragement for all clear thinking conservatives. once can only hope that the likes of NAMBLA and maggot brain et al run into towel head terrorists who have been allowed to go free by the cowardly pig ignorant leftist opposition to the sensible, legitimate measures designed to protect the rest of us. if anyone deserves to suffer badly at the hands of terrorists its their far left AmeriKan enablers.
AS for the supposed comments by the brother of Tillman - assuming these are actually accurately transcribed with NO distortions or ommissions. They read to me as yet another embittered hysterical outburst of someone who lost a relative WHO VOLUNTEERED and is still very angry about that sad loss. But they also read as someone whose self indulgent wilful ignorance and distortions of reality is sadly almost as deranged as that vile b*** Sheehan. Whatever sympathy I had for Sheehan dissipated a long long time ago. Now I have nothing but utter contempt. This odious far left shrew was perfectly happy when she met Bush the first time - there was no deep rancour or abuse or obsessive bile. But the far left manipulated what passes for this feminazi’s mind and now Sheehan robotically spews treasonous lies and hysteria to anyone who will listen .Very amusingly the number of folks now listening is ever diminishing as the folks see her for EXACTLY what she is - a money grubbing grasping far left evil opportunist.
It will be interesting to see if Tillman’s brother is manipulated and used in the same cynical way by the hate AmeriKa left.
By Thinking Right or "NOT" Thinking!
October 20, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this
JIM WOOTEN,
If you are truly concerned about Marriage Fraud, as you say you are with Voter Fraud - why haven’t “your party” suggested a National Marriage Database, with fingerprints and additional forms of documentation?
Not only that, but keep track of all the divorces; in addition, to the 2nd, 3rd and 4th wives in that same database. Then we can talk about the sanctity of marriage in this country. We have a lot more checks and balances in obtaining a marriage license and we still have fraud. Where is the national cry for something to be done about marriage fraud?
As far as Sheriff Myron Freeman, if he’s a lemon – the Republican Party is Lemonade. That would make our president, the head Lemon in charge. LOL:)
By Watta Load
October 20, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this
Again a truckload of bull manure from Jim Wooten…Hastert would have been “drummed out of office because of his homophobia” ?????!!!!! Are you friggin joking Jim…what planet are you on? Frist and Santorum are still there..so are most of the other homophobic republicans…
This from a member of the party that regularly entertains Perkins, Falwell, Dobson and the rest of the religous, gay hating loonies…
Hastert wouldn’t have been drummed out, he would have been made a hero by the religious nuts that have Bushy’s ear.
How stupid do you think your readers are anyway?
By deegee
October 20, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this
Voter fraud:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/19/D8KS2P100.html
By Rod
October 20, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this
Good Morning,
I think many of these celebrities are adopting for publicity purposes. However - aren’t the children still better off? Can you honestly say that a child being left in an orphanage in a Third World country would be better off than living in a Beverly Hills mansion with a loving Nanny? The child would have a much better chance of living past the age of 10.
By any chance is Fulton Superior Court Judge Craig Schwall running for an election? Sounds a bit like political grandstanding to me.
You stated: “Money has no conscience, loyalty or party affiliation. It goes to power.” This is right after you pointed out that the Wall Street money-changers gave more money to the Democrats. Is this your admission that the Power now rests with the Democrats? hehehe
I guess that’ll be it for now - unfortunately, tftt has thrown in some nasty, vile, irresponsible insults in here to mess up a pleasant blog and exchange of ideas (it was nice yesterday without her though).
By Lemon Bush
October 20, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Bush gave Iraq some lemon aid.
By The Pope
October 20, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this
Poster child for abortion: time for the truth
By Dusty
October 20, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
So Jim Wooten doesn’t get it…Ha!
He’s got every one of you sore losers frothing and foaming at an early hour.
There’s the Siamese twins, Aqua and Debbie twisting the facts, JDGI who obligingly posts the Republican Contract every day (thank you), and all the push to the front of the line baby adoptees celebrating Madonna’s quick process. And Sphghetti Junction is named after a DOT honcho. Was he Italian?
Then there is the liberal joy over their special place CNN. Today it shows the shooting of American soldiers by snipers.
Oh yes, I forgot. “The unvarnished truth” as a CNN official said. Liberals support the troops but not Bush. More “unvarnished truth” by liberals? Even varnish could not cover the defects in that statement.
By sct
October 20, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this
Madonna is bringing democracy to those poor orphaned souls. God bless Madonna and the Republicans for spreading democracy.
By Enough is Enough
October 20, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this
OK Enough of this nonsense.
Pedophilia and homosexuality are not related in any way. Pedophilia is like rape, has less to do with sex than with power and self destructive behavior. Most people who have sexual attraction to children can not be fit neatly into a category of adult sexuality as their sexual thoughts are fixated on children.
This latest line of diversionary reasoning that Hastert would somehow have been vilified as a homophobe for taking action against a pedophile is the most patently offensive thing I have heard in a long, long time. If he had singled out Foley as a homosexual then yes he would have been vilified. But according to this infantile line of reasoning if Hastert had known Foley had murdered his gay lover and turned him in for the murder Hastert would have been considered a homophobe for turning is a gay man rather than a responsible person who turned in a murderer. Ridiculous.
Homosexual men are no more likely to be attracted to little or young boys then heterosexual men are to be attracted to little or young girls. All people, homosexuals included, find the actions of a pedophile reprehensible and disgusting. The very idea of propositioning boys for sex is vile no matter who you are.
For a journalist like Wooten to spout this nonsense as if it is some wise insight is extremely disturbing and to say the least irresponsible. This line of infantile reasoning does nothing but demonstrate ignorance and an unwillingness to see others as real people if they aren’t “just like us.” It is not cute, it is not clever, it is not insightful and it is not true.
To use this scandal as another excuse to take a shot at homosexuals in this country shows how desperate, ignorant, irresponsible and just outright disgusting the true conservative mindset really is.
Wooten, if you are man enough to see the flaws in this line of reasoning then I would hope that apologies would be forthcoming. I won’t, however, hold my breath.
By Enough is Enough
October 20, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this
If anyone would actually like to read some facts on the subject of Homosexuality and Instances of Pedophilia they are here.
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
I suspect that most will revel in their opinions though, as facts seem to have no place in debate anymore.
By Support the Troops for REAL
October 20, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
Hey, Time for Tantrums, Pat Tillman’s brother enlisted WITH him, moron. That qualifies him to comment from a soldier’s perspective, not just a grieving relative. Of course, since you apparently have no loved ones of your own, we can all see why you hold grieving loved ones in such contempt. Please enlist yourself; your questionable citizenship is not a deterrent. When you die in the place of a young father, brother, daughter, or son, no one will miss you, and the life you save will be appreciated by many. What are you waiting for? Time to pony up.
This server is currently overloaded from all the people trying to read this from various links.
You can read the re-post here.
By Aquaman
October 20, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this
Dusty, Glad to see you’re back. And yes as what you and others term a liberal (i.e. anyone who isn’t lock step in support of the President) I am in glee over seeing snipers shooting at soldiers, especially since the video is so bad I can’t tell if they are shooting at my son or not.
What you said was disgusting and as a supposed parent of a serviceman you should be ashamed.
Yesterday you ignored these questions and since you’re here I thought I’d give you another chance to address them.
Exactly how was anything that was going on in Iraq a threat to the freedom you like living in?
And exactly how do you explain away all those quotes questioning Clinton when we were in a state of war in Kosovo? Were all of those people, your hero GWB and his shill Karen “Talk About Hillary’s Cankles” Hughes somehow loving America less then because they were asking the exact same questions regarding mission and exit strategy as the opposition is asking the current administration?
I’d love to see you try and explain this one away! Maybe you can get one of your friends to help.
Oh and forgive me if you feel I am on a “liberal rant” as you did yesterday. I am just looking for a good reason my son has been in Iraq for over a year rather than home raising my two grandsons after his tour of duty was supposed to have ended.
By Brian Curtis
October 20, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this
Dusty: Then why don’t you try to point out the defects in that statement. Just try.
I’ll repeat it for you: Liberals support the troops, but not the traitorous ninny who’s sending them to get killed for no reason.
Now, exactly what’s contradictory or confusing about that statement for you?
By getalife
October 20, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this
It is great to see all these so called “liberals”(Real Americans) posting on this “neonut” (Failed Americans) blog.
It seems most “neonuts” have cut and ran and there is only one thing left to do.
Get out and vote.
By Support the Troops for REAL
October 20, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this
Dusty? Dusty? Will you answer Aquaman, or are you busy checking your favorite hate-blogs for some clever put downs to use instead?
By DebbieDoRight
October 20, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this
There’s the Siamese twins, Aqua and Debbie twisting the facts
I have begged you continously to seek help or at least TRY to take your medications in the morning before blogging. Again, today, I see it is to no avail.
What truth, Dusty was twisted? The fact that there isn’t any PROOF that voter fraud has been committed, just some mad ramblings of a fanatical right?
Is it the fact that Wooten nor it seems Republicans in general, know the difference between homosexuality, ephebophilia and pedophilia? And they lump it all into one category?
Or that Jack Abramoff made more illegal money for the GOP then the Mob did in Vegas?
By deegee
October 20, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
Rusty Dusty, He wasn’t Italian.
Tom Moreland Interchange, colloquially also known as Spaghetti Junction, is the intersection of the major roadways Interstate 85 and Interstate 285, along with several access roads, in northern DeKalb County, Georgia, just northeast of Atlanta, Georgia, USA. It is named for Tom Moreland, a former commissioner of the Georgia Department of Transportation (1974-1987).
By time for the truth
October 20, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this
I was unaware of that … but regardless of whether the brother is in the army or not … his brother comes across as just another embittered Bush hater of the vile treasonous Sheenhan ilk. Hopefully he wont allow himself to be cynically used and manipulated in the same way by the far left filth.
Funny how you far leftist arsewipes, like the abortion bucket escapee rednekkks NAMBLA, (just wittily mirroring back your abuse bubbaturd) are so glib about others signing up. I passed the age of enlistment a decade or two ago.
The Tillman brothers VOLUNTARILY chose to enlist, ranting about all this, as the post suggested he did, after he chose to do so comes across as very twisted embittered hysteria.
By Dusty
October 20, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this
Dear Aquaman,
Did you get any sleep last night? Well, your worry is understandable. No one with a son or daughter in Iraq could keep from worrying.
But if it is any comfort to you, I believe that our military is fighting terrorism right in Iraq and NOT in America. Those same terrorists that would attack us are causing great forment in Iraq in hopes of defeat there. But there is no doubt that the major target of annihilation by Muslim fundamentalists is America. They have said so. They gave us a preview on 9/11. They continue to plan, as recently as the plans uncovered in the United Kingdom show.
Perhaps in your concern, you have forgotten that our troops are our pride and joy and protection. Your son is doing his duty. He may be unhappy and homesick, but I doubt that he wants to cut and run. If he was in a Reserve Unit, there is always the possibility that he might be called up.
I doubt that my answers will satisfy you. But take pride in your son and the country. They are the greatest. And if you want to “rant” some more, go ahead. Maybe that will make you feel better but I doubt it.
By Van
October 20, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this
Yo Van, your ignorance is showing,
Well, I guess you got me there. I guess the VC and the NVA had no relationship then. I guess the Viet Cong supplied themselves from Laos and not down hte Ho Chi Minh trail
Butt head, the VC and the NVA worked hand in hand for the North.
By Van
October 20, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this
deegee,
Yes, there are benefits to working at home.
By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!
October 20, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
[By Traffic Engineer October 20, 2006 09:14 AM When oil is no longer available for your living-room-on-wheels, you right wing bigots are not welcome to ride on our mass transit. Stay the hell off Marta(R)
You know MARTA runs off oil too, right, genius?
By time for the truth
October 20, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this
That qualifies him to comment from a soldier’s perspective, not just a grieving relative. Of course, since you apparently have no loved ones of your own, we can all see why you hold grieving loved ones in such contempt. Please enlist yourself; your questionable citizenship is not a deterrent. When you die in the place of a young father, brother, daughter, or son, no one will miss you, and the life you save will be appreciated by many. What are you waiting for? Time to pony up.
verminous pinko maggots like yourself have NO moral right to lecture ANYONE on any subject. I could care less whether you enlisted or not, its a puerile pathetic empty game that only yankkkeee mutants play.
Tillman’s brother maybe grieving - although his brother died a long time ago now. So the memory is hardly of the raw last week, last month kind. Volunteer soldiers, especially in combat units, which Tillman insisted on joining, fully understand the risk they are taking. Your disgusting (personalised) shiite is typical of far leftist sewer rats. But it is actually very funny that you actually post such deranged dishonest bollocks to a total stranger (thankfully) in cyber space. It shows how pathetically obsessed you are with your irrational Bush hjate etc. Folks didn’t do this in WW2 - they just got on with things, quietly and invariably with great dignity and honour.
time for you to f—- off!! …huge I loathe leftists smirk
By Markus
October 20, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this
Will someone please tell that buttplug liberal “Jim Don’t Get It” “Jim’s A Distractor” etc. etc. that his/her/it’s “CONTRACT WITH AMERICA” post has been answered? Here is where I responded to that jackass, but never got a response. Idiots.
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/thinkingright/entries/2006/10/18/theunonceagainapapertige.html#comment-747422
By Markus
October 20, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this
Adopting international children is just the latest bling in Hollywood. Liberals have to always do something that’s in the public eye that makes them and those they are trying to get attention from get that giddie goosebump feel good feeling all over. From Sean Penn looking like a bumbling idiot in a jon boat “rescuing” Katrina hostages (the tinhat jackass liberal should have taken a few pointers on how to move around in a small boat with a low center of gravity… or at least ensuring the damned plug was secure before launching) to Nicole Kidman’s adopted kids, it’s all about sensationalism and perception. Just like Madonna being asked to fund international children’s programs, I wonder how much Sean Penn donated of his own money to Katrina victims?
The voter or no-voter ID is about as hotly contested as Intel vs. AMD or Apple vs. PC. or Ford vs. Chevy. Both sides think they are right and the other is all wrong. However, voter fraud cannot be disproven, yet it can’t be proven either. There have been allegations of more votes counted than registered voters, “dead people” voting, “dogs” voting; illegal aliens voting, and voting in multiple precincts. If voter fraud doesn’t exist, then someone ‘splain to me how you can track down a voter who uses a utility bill from a neighbor or from a dead relative to verify they are who they claim to be or from a district they claim to be. What are you going to do? Run a poll to get answers? “Excuse me sir! Did you use someone else’s proof of voter eligibility to vote?” Oh hell yeah that would be an accurate data gathering poll. “Where’s the accountability?” Oh I know… it only needs to be in those damned electronic voting machines that Democrits came up with to replace the butterfly ballot that Democrits designed.
Why are liberals so upset at having to show one’s ID to prove who the hell they say they are? Liberal Democrits shout down from the mountaintops about “accountability” to we Republicans and Conservatives, yet they don’t want to address one of the most fundamental necessities to this nation’s very existence: being accountable for who you say you are as one legitimate vote. So, if voter fraud is non-existent as the left likes to claim, they should have no problem with a US citizen proving with an ID that he or she is who he or she says he or she is. It’s all in the meaning of the definition of is. After all, there’s nothing to lose there, except votes maybe.
Congestion relief indeed. Why haven’t politicians at the federal, state, and local level offered incentives for companies to allow more telecommuting? Not all cube jobs can be done from home, but a lot can. Sure companies love to micromanage their employees in their Dilbert cubes, but start giving companies incentives towards the bottom line, and they might just relax their grip a little. In any event, something has to be done. As 400 gets expanded, it’s only going to be temporary relief. Ten years ago Forsyth was in the sticks. There was nothing at Hwy 20/exit 14 but a Waffle House and Racetrack. Now it’s where Alpharetta was ten years ago. Alpharetta continues to see a boom in office park construction. Ten years from now Dawson county is going to be where Forsyth is now. The same can be said in Cobb and Gwinnett as well. The insane metro Atlanta growth shows no sign of dissipating from north to south to east to west to ITP. Oh, but we have that terrible economy out there, don’t we?
I just loved yesterday’s letter to the editor by some clown about the attorney with the helicopter in Cobb. Comments like “rich” just exposes the venom the wallet thief liberals have against those that have more than they do. I’ll bet this jackass doesn’t complain when Kerry flies all over in his wife’s $35M Gulfstream jet or when b!itchin’ Babs Streisand flies around in her private jet. I’ll bet this backyard laundry lifting liberal doesn’t complain when P-Diddy or Puff-D or who-the-hell-ever comes to town with gangbangsta hoodlums and shoots up midtown from Escalade and Hummer limos (go ahead, call me racist now you liberal nazis).
No comment on the Dirty Harry Reid scams. Democrits can do no wrong. EVER. That’s only for Republicans. Democrits can lie under oath, assault and rape women, molest youths overseas, be ex-Klansmen, drive off bridges drunk and run away leaving interns for dead, have shady land deals and not tell Congress about them, steal classified documents from the National Archives related to 9/11 and destroy them and only pay a small fine and say it was a “sloppy” mistake, scream we all need windmills in our backyards except their own backyards, tell us we need to drive hybrids while they ride around in their limos and SUVs and private jets, and they love tell us we are “hate mongers” and “bigots” and “homophobes” when voting against gay marriage yet they use hate epithets when referencing a gay person who just happens to be a Republican (ditto for Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics). No, the Party of the Jackass can do no wrong. Only Republicans can. Of course, Republicans claim a higher moral authority that Democrits, so perhaps the Jackass Party doesn’t have much of a foothold on the issue of wrongdoing in the first place: they have no shame. And that’s why we should have zero respect and trust for them on a personal and professional political level.
By Observer
October 20, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this
Dusty did not answer Aquaman’s questions. She did, however, use a patronzing tone which may or may not impress him.
By DebbieDoRight
October 20, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this
The Tillman brothers VOLUNTARILY chose to enlist, ranting about all this, as the post suggested he did, after he chose to do so comes across as very twisted embittered hysteria.
To say something like that is asinine and shows clearly the ConServATrons thinking. Compassionate Conservative?!! Ha!! What an oxymoron!
But if it is any comfort to you, I believe that our military is fighting terrorism right in Iraq and NOT in America. Those same terrorists that would attack us are causing great forment in Iraq in hopes of defeat there
Hmmmmm, quick question. How many terrorists factions were actually IN Iraq before America invaded?
By Support the Troops for REAL
October 20, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this
But it is actually very funny that you actually post such deranged dishonest bollocks to a total stranger (thankfully) in cyber space.
Yes, Time for Tantrums (followed by wanking, then a nap), I agree! You ARE too funny for the deranged dishonest bullocks you post here every day. Huge belly laugh at chickenhawk tantrum boy.
By Markus
October 20, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
Liberman opens up 17-point lead over anti-war Jackass Lamont. Yep, just as I said two months ago when the anti-war media orgasmed all over Lamont being anti-war and giving Lieberman a real challenge, it appears Lamont has flamed out ala Air America. Lamont wasn’t even a splash in the toilet, let alone a flash in the pan.
Why do I call the media anti-war? CNN’s treasonous following of islamobastards shooting our troops… just like Hanoi Jane. Disgusting. They should be lined up and shot.
By deegee
October 20, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this
For those of you who enjoy staying awake during the daytime hours, Markus’ response to the contract with america post says that republicans aren’t happy with the broken contract either. I will respond by saying that you republicans got and continue to get what you asked for so stop whining.
By DebbieDoRight
October 20, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this
Volunteer soldiers, especially in combat units, which Tillman insisted on joining, fully understand the risk they are taking.
Compassionate Conservatism at its best….
Liberals have to always do something that’s in the public eye that makes them and those they are trying to get attention from get that giddie goosebump feel good feeling all over
At least they’re doing something. What has any of those Compassionate Conservatives done lately? Oh yeah, that’s right……they’ve bought bigger SUVs and hung yellow ribbons on them.
There have been allegations of more votes counted than registered voters, “dead people” voting, “dogs” voting; illegal aliens voting, and voting in multiple precincts.
“The evidence suggests that instances of duplicative voting, impersonators seeking to cast ballots on behalf of dead voters, and illegal aliens attempting to vote are too few and far between to justify the burden that these laws impose on all voters. Illegal aliens, especially, have a strong disincentive dissuading them from voting: For them, to vote is to risk unwanted contact with election officials, police, and ultimately Homeland Security’s immigration bureau - and thus to risk detention and deportation.” Kristin Clark Avery
In short, allegations are not facts. I can make an allegation that you are a closet University of Florid Fan and secretly watch all their games. That is an allegation, but what was said does not make the statement true.
By Van
October 20, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Regarding Madonna and adopting a non-orphan in Africa.
The rules for adoption in Britian may be too strict, age wise, for her. It might tie up too much time and money to adopt a black child in Britian.
I do know that the process is about 12-18 months long (30 years ago) in Tennessee. At that time, no one offered employee benefits to cover the legal costs.
By DebbieDoRight
October 20, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Volunteer soldiers, especially in combat units, which Tillman insisted on joining, fully understand the risk they are taking.
Compassionate Conservatism at its best….
Liberals have to always do something that’s in the public eye that makes them and those they are trying to get attention from get that giddie goosebump feel good feeling all over
At least they’re doing something. What has any of those Compassionate Conservatives done lately? Oh yeah, that’s right……they’ve bought bigger SUVs and hung yellow ribbons on them.
There have been allegations of more votes counted than registered voters, “dead people” voting, “dogs” voting; illegal aliens voting, and voting in multiple precincts.
“The evidence suggests that instances of duplicative voting, impersonators seeking to cast ballots on behalf of dead voters, and illegal aliens attempting to vote are too few and far between to justify the burden that these laws impose on all voters. Illegal aliens, especially, have a strong disincentive dissuading them from voting: For them, to vote is to risk unwanted contact with election officials, police, and ultimately Homeland Security’s immigration bureau - and thus to risk detention and deportation.” Kristin Clark Avery
In short, allegations are not facts. I can make an allegation that you are a closet University of Florida Fan and secretly watch all their games. That is an allegation, but what was said does not make the statement true.
By Dusty
October 20, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Poor pitiful Observer,
I have four sons. You think I don’t know anything about worry? One has already served in the military.
I don’t agree with Aquaman’s politics but I certainly understand his concern. Why don’t you give it a try?
By Jim Don't Get It
October 20, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this
tftt y Markus,
I’m much more interested in hearing what Jim has to say about how his party lied to America and how Americans such as yourselves seem to justify those lies than reading your tired, filthy prose.
I know perfecly well that Jim will not respond, because there is no way for him to do so without shattering his MO. Like any partisan on either side, he’s a hypocrite. He picks and chooses isolated nuggets of blantant failure and uses them to generalize extremely large and complex systems. Same as you two.
Same reason why Rush doesn’t have guests on his show except for the ones who’s agenda he is furthering. He does not want to be challenged or debated - that’s the first rule of battle. Don’t debate your opponent: attack him.
Same reason why Fox news doesn’t produce documentaries or news stories of depth. They can’t include too much info without having their carefully scripted message tainted.
But, since Jim does make this blog available, and does seem to ocassionally be interested in what people are saying, I’ll continue to post what I think. I think that all politicians are liars, but that the Republicans are particularly offensive due to the way in which they have siezed power and what they have done with it since.
As a reminder of the way in which they siezed power and how they have abused it, I offer the following (their words… celebrate them!):
REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA
As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.
That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.
This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.
Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.
On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:
FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;
SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;
FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;
SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
By DebbieDoRight
October 20, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this
I think he/she/etc. wants JIM to answer on the subjct of the Contract w/america.
By Jim Don't Get It
October 20, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this
tftt y Markus,
I’m much more interested in hearing what Jim has to say about how his party lied to America and how Americans such as yourselves seem to justify those lies than reading your tired, filthy prose.
I know perfecly well that Jim will not respond, because there is no way for him to do so without shattering his MO. Like any partisan on either side, he’s a hypocrite. He picks and chooses isolated nuggets of blantant failure and uses them to generalize extremely large and complex systems. Same as you two.
Same reason why Rush doesn’t have guests on his show except for the ones who’s agenda he is furthering. He does not want to be challenged or debated - that’s the first rule of battle. Don’t debate your opponent: attack him.
Same reason why Fox news doesn’t produce documentaries or news stories of depth. They can’t include too much info without having their carefully scripted message tainted.
But, since Jim does make this blog available, and does seem to ocassionally be interested in what people are saying, I’ll continue to post what I think. I think that all politicians are liars, but that the Republicans are particularly offensive due to the way in which they have siezed power and what they have done with it since.
As a reminder of the way in which they siezed power and how they have abused it, I offer the following (their words… celebrate them!):
REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA
As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.
That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.
This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.
Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.
On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:
FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;
SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;
FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;
SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
By time for the truth
October 20, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this
If I read it right this Tillman “story” came from the despicable huffington blog … which further undermines the credibility of this.
If Tillman hadn’t been a sports celebrity little would be being made of any of this. Its real ‘funny’ how the leftist filfth capitalise on ANY opportunity to make their disgraceful points.
By Richard
October 20, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
Markus must be passed out now - after his long winded much ado about nothing. He shows he’s not an unbiased true observer. He has Bush’s dick up his @ss and is just spouting the corporate line. Wake up.
By time for the truth
October 20, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
When oil is no longer available for your living-room-on-wheels, you right wing bigots are not welcome to ride on our mass transit. Stay the hell off Marta(R)
I have NO desire or need to ride on Moving Africans Rapidly Through Metro Atlanta …
but as MARTA doesn’t belong to anyone you sad bigoted arsewipe YOU have no right to bigotedly demand anyone stays off it - although feel free to jump under a moving train anytime you want!!
By DebbieDoRight
October 20, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this
Volunteer soldiers, especially in combat units, which Tillman insisted on joining, fully understand the risk they are taking.
Compassionate Conservatism at its best….
Liberals have to always do something that’s in the public eye that makes them and those they are trying to get attention from get that giddie goosebump feel good feeling all over
At least they’re doing something. What has any of those Compassionate Conservatives done lately? Oh yeah, that’s right……they’ve bought bigger SUVs and hung yellow ribbons on them.
There have been allegations of more votes counted than registered voters, “dead people” voting, “dogs” voting; illegal aliens voting, and voting in multiple precincts.
“The evidence suggests that instances of duplicative voting, impersonators seeking to cast ballots on behalf of dead voters, and illegal aliens attempting to vote are too few and far between to justify the burden that these laws impose on all voters. Illegal aliens, especially, have a strong disincentive dissuading them from voting: For them, to vote is to risk unwanted contact with election officials, police, and ultimately Homeland Security’s immigration bureau - and thus to risk detention and deportation.” Kristin Clark Avery
In short, allegations are not facts. I can make an allegation that you are a closet University of Florid Fan and secretly watch all their games. That is an allegation, but what was said does not make the statement true.
By Drunkard
October 20, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
BURP
By getalife
October 20, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this
Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has unveiled a Democratic “first 100 hours” plan to be enacted once Democrats control the House. In an effort to “drain the [Republican] swamp,” Pelosi would:
Day One: Put new rules in place to “break the link between lobbyists and legislation.”
Day Two: Enact all the recommendations made by the commission that investigated the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Time remaining until 100 hours: Raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, maybe in one step. Cut the interest rate on student loans in half. Allow the government to negotiate directly with the pharmaceutical companies for lower drug prices for Medicare patients.
Broaden the types of stem cell research allowed with federal funds — “I hope with a veto-proof majority,” she added in an Associated Press interview Thursday.
All the days after that: “Pay as you go,” meaning no increasing the deficit, whether the issue is middle class tax relief, health care or some other priority.
By time for the truth
October 20, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this
When oil is no longer available for your living-room-on-wheels, you right wing bigots are not welcome to ride on our mass transit. Stay the hell off Marta(R)
I have NO desire or need to ride on Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta …
but as MARTA doesn’t belong to anyone you sad bigoted arsewipe YOU have no right to bigotedly demand anyone stays off it - although feel free to jump under a moving train anytime you want!!
By getalife
October 20, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this
Here is a nice letter fro a great American soldier
It is a shame that chickenhawks like macaca want our troops to be sitting ducks in the middle of a civil war.
By DebbieDoRight
October 20, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this
Democrits can lie under oath, assault and rape women, molest youths overseas, be ex-Klansmen, drive off bridges drunk and run away leaving interns for dead, have shady land deals and not tell Congress about them
The Ex Klansmen, do you mean Strom Thurmon or David Duke? I thought they were Republicans.
Molesting youths — that was Foley right?
Shady Land deals….let me see, I got it!! that was Sonny Perdue!
By Political Foreskin
October 20, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this
It’s cool that they named Spaghetti Junction after Sonny Perdue, him being such a meatball and all…..
By getalife
October 20, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this
Diebold mess
By JK
October 20, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this
Debbie, Remember also that only Republicans are allowed to have extra-marital hanky panky and lie about it to protect their wives and girlfriends from the intrusion of the lib’rul media and nosy, busy-body religio-freaks with no sex lives of their own. When a Democrat does it, he’s impeached.
By Van
October 20, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
getalife,
She also said she would roll back all the Bush tax cuts - if you had a job, your taxes would go up regardless of you tax bracket.
By Van
October 20, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
No, the reference was to the ex-klansman Senator Byrd from west Virginia. He is the one that also said the “n” word during an interview and nothing was said.
Democrats get free passes and republicans get marched up the scaffold.
Kennedy has killed more people with his car than I have will any of my guns, but I can’t take mine into Costco(against their coporate policy).
By deegee
October 20, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this
Good God, Van! The Bush tax cuts??? What did you get? I think I got about $200.00. Get over it already.
By Mrs. RepubLady
October 20, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
I’m putting this poster up on my trailer! Van, what time will you be over for “tea” this afternoon?
By getalife
October 20, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this
That is bs Van but to be expected from you. Read her plan over and over until you get it.It is a great start, especially the first day which may fix our broken government.
The “pay as you go” was how Clinton balanced the budget.
Why do you not want a better government for the people Van?
By harold
October 20, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this
“abortion bucket escapee”
classic! haheheheheahahhaee!
By JK
October 20, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
Laura Bush killed more people with a car than Van killed with his gun, but Van likes to pick and choose whom he blasts on the blog. Check it out at: http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
Van, why don’t you care about Michael Douglas, a popular boy in Laura’s high school who reportedly broke up with her shortly before she ran a stop sign (at a flat crossroads on a clear, dry night) and broke his neck? Van, why don’t you ever bring up the fact that the police never tested HER for alcohol, when you bring up drunk Kennedies all the time? march march march march… NO! Give them a pass!
By Gameshow Guy
October 20, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this
Let’s play “Scaffold or FREE Pass!!”
Today’s contestant: Caucasion, wealthy, sixty-something male, out hunting with friends (and a couple of DL females) on a Saturday evening, on a drive-by, stop-&-shoot, “hunting ranch.” They’re on private property, and it’s the weekend, so of course alcohol is available and being consumed. Man shoots friend in face. Friend goes to hospital. Contenstant goes back to the ranch and hides until the next day, somehow magically refusing to speak with the local police authorities until 14 hours after the accident, even though police are required to investigate gunshot wounds ASAP. By the next day, police see no need to test contenstant’s blood-alcohol level, as protocol dictates doing that right away. Scaffold or Pass? YOU make the call!
By Van
October 20, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
JK,
Kennedy was drunk when it happened, I didn’t know that, I just thought he just didn’t care - Regarding laura, there is a bit of difference between a 17 year old girl going through a stop sign and a Senator too drunk to keep the car on the bridge.
Another apple and orange that the left likes to bring up.
How about what Byrd said and what Trent Lott said - Hmmm?
By Amara is Free
October 20, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
Iraqi freedom fighters have driven the troops of the amerikan puppet government from Amara, and are now setting ambushes for the expected counter attack by the evil invaders from AmeriKa! May the forces of free iraq prevail.
By Marta belong to us, whity
October 20, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
We be waitin’, stinky!
By Aquaman
October 20, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this
I rarely sleep, it’s very hard with him there and with those that need him here.
I understand that you believe that terrorism is best fought there, but that is where we diverge. I do not now nor have I ever believed that terrorism and Iraq were related, especially prior to the invasion. Iraq has become the ultimate recruiting tool for the terrorist, providing them misguided and erroneous “proof” of America’s imperialstic hostility toward all things Muslim. The war on terror was not connected to the situation in Iraq until we made it so. We have created a breeding ground for the next wave of terrorist and have made the situation worse.
I will not take offense to you contention that perhaps I have forgotten that out troops are our pride and joy. My son is my heart and pride as well as an example of everything that is good and great about America. My son is doing his duty and will continue to do so but his disillusion has little to do with unhappiness or being homesick. Of course he is both but overall it has more to do with the fact that he struggles each day to survive within a context that lacks reason.
He joined the military to protect the freedoms you and I enjoy. That is his duty. But now instead of doing that he, and most of those around him don’t understand their mission there, and I dare say that if the boots on the ground don’t understand the mission then the mission is not clear.
Jason does not want to cut and run. He is a man and soldier who until recently was willing to serve this country until he retired. But while we sit and blog he chases after an amorphous and illusive program of “stay the course”. The problem is the course is unknown, changes constantly and has no end in sight. What he does want and what he says time and again is to have a clear objective, means to accomplish that objective and to have confidence that victory can be defined.
But let’s not forget what began this conversation. Van stated that it was only the liars, the ignorant and just plain old fashion back stabbing, america hating, pinko scum that would say that they supported the troops but not the war. I took exception with that. I also take strong exception with the treasonous idea that dissent means that I am on the side of the enemy and that I would take pleasure in the sniper video shown on CNN.
I hated to see that video but I’m glad someone is growing a spine and showing us, who are so comfortable here, what my son faces daily. Perhaps if we begin to see the war in Iraq as a real thing, rather than a political rallying point or scenes from a movie then more thought will be given to whether or not “stay the course” is really the answer.
As for dissent, the point I was making is that the GOP’s contention that dissent undermines the troops appears to be nothing more than a political position as was evidenced by the numerous quotes from the right during our involvement in Kosovo. Dissent knows no political stripe, it is either good for Democracy or not.
That’s why I asked the questions that never got answered.
By Van
October 20, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this
getajob
“All the days after that: “Pay as you go,” meaning no increasing the deficit, whether the issue is middle class tax relief, health care or some other priority. From the Washington Post
To do that, she said, Bush-era tax cuts would have to be rolled back for those above “a certain level.” She mentioned annual incomes of $250,000 or $300,000 a year and higher, and said tax rates for those individuals might revert to those of the Clinton era. Details will have to be worked out, she emphasized.”
That tax bracket has an average tax bill of 20+% - yeah, raise their taxes. People like getalife are either still students and pay no taxes or they are on the bottom rung of the work force and still pay no taxes.
With this plan, she will take my taxes up another 5% - and I am so middle class.
By Van
October 20, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
Gameshow Guy,
Does, “you might want to put ice on that” ring a bell
By Photo Id all Repukes, they cheat
October 20, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
There is a FAT girl Neo-CCUUnt in our office from Pa who for at least the last four elections has voted by absentee ballot in Pa and as a local in Georgia. She is a fanatical Bushie girl - my question is, how do I go about turning her in to the Pa and the georgia authorities?
By Chazman
October 20, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
BREAKING NEWS More Proof that Time For The Trash is a hypocrite
On October 18 at 12:57 P.M., she stated:
racist demoNcrat finally apologises for racist “slavish” remark
but it took a while and obviously the apology is grudging and only done to save face, the intent and meaning of this vile remark obviously is not in any way diminished.
So, let’s see. The “vile remark” was this:
WASHINGTON (CNN) — A ranking Democrat in the House of Representative is apologizing for saying an African-American Senate candidate “slavishly” supported the Republican Party.
I agree that this guy should not have said that. He was right to apoligize. Time For The Trash says it is a vile remark.
But today at 12:32, Time For The Trash states:
I have NO desire or need to ride on Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta
Hmmmm. I wonder what African Americans in Atlanta think of that statement?
How about it Trash girl. You think his was a vile remark, but yours is OK to say?
Pathetic
By Van
October 20, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this
Aquaman,
I have a great link for you regarding Saddam and terrorism.
Footnotes at the bottom of this page for verification.
By Van
October 20, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this
Photo Id all Repukes, they cheat,
Don’t forget the “snow birds” from up north voting in Florida.
But, there is no such thing as voter fraud.
By Van
October 20, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this
deegee,
I went from paying about 15% down to 10% on adjusted gross income. So, in the long haul, until they go away with the sunset clauses, I have cut my tax bill by a third.
Filing the long form is a great excercise in frustration.
By deegee
October 20, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this
Van, does “macaca” ring a bell?
By Dusty
October 20, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this
Van,
You have probably noticed that the Democrats have a list that they furnish for their followers. If they mention this one, then follow up with that one.
The fact is that both sides have a few crooks and marital philanderers. But lining up the President’s wife Laura when she was single and riding with a friend and matching that with married Ted Kennedy’s drunken party driving with female is really stretching it. JK tries hard with all the possibilities he can conjure up but they simply don’t ring true.
Now all of JK’s liberal backups will come running with “I believe. I belive.” Integrity is a failed attainment for the super liberal magicians of the lost left.
By Van
October 20, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this
deegee,
I believe that is a term used by ignorant people to describe what they leave behind in a toilet bowl. Caca being spanish term for that is a favorite term used by little children.
While, the term does ring a bell, I have help my wife raise two children, it does not bring any clarity to your comment.
Could you expand further on your use of a vulgar term? I am sure with your obvious education that other terms might be more appropriate in a public blog.
Thanks again.
By deegee
October 20, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this
Van, I am in the precarious position of being debt free. I paid off my house and have no dependants therefore I can file the short form. I am paying more in federal and state taxes now than I have ever paid in my life. Aside from that, my grocery bill has gone up by about 15% in the last year, I paid 3X more for natural gas last year than I paid in the past. My gasoline bill has doubled and eating out in restaurants is more expensive. I spent about 20% more than last year for a hotel room this summer when I went on vacation. The fuel surcharge on airplane tickets has increased the cost of flying. Unless your sitting in a dark room someplace your 5% tax reduction amounts to whistling in the wind.
By Van
October 20, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
How true.
How many times have we notices the slice and dicing of phrases reassembled to fit their paradigm. Also, when confronted with something they can not refute, the descend into name calling. It is interesting that those that yell “liar” the loudest are usually those with the fewest facts and figures.
The herd mentality is also fun to watch, when one says something so far off center that is brings forth gales of laughter, the others will jump in and say “Its true, its true, I saw it on a far left Soros sponsored blog”
By deegee
October 20, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this
Van, step away from Fox and Friends and learn about what is really happening in the world.
RICHMOND, Aug. 14 — Virginia Sen. George Allen (R) apologized Monday for what his opponent’s campaign said were demeaning and insensitive comments the senator made to a 20-year-old volunteer of Indian descent.
At a campaign rally in southwest Virginia on Friday, Allen repeatedly called a volunteer for Democrat James Webb “macaca.” During the speech in Breaks, near the Kentucky border, Allen began by saying that he was “going to run this campaign on positive, constructive ideas” and then pointed at S.R. Sidarth in the crowd.
By Van's a Liar and a Thief
October 20, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
Since Van spends so much time here on the internet, he is either lying about having a job, or he is stealing him employers time. Which is it Van, a liar, a thief, or perhaps both? I bet you work for the State of Georgia!
By Dusty
October 20, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
Aquaman,
I have answered your question. We disagree about terrorism. No answer will satisfy you. So I will give you no more.
There’s an age old closing that many use.
Peace be with you and your son.
By Political Foreskin
October 20, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this
I think it’s great the way they named Spaghetti Junction after our dear governor, Sonny Perdue, him being such a meatball, and all.
By deegee
October 20, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this
Rusty Dusty please! “Integrity is a failed attainment for the super liberal magicians of the lost left.”
Integrity can’t be a failed attainment, however someone can attempt to act with integrity and fail.
If a person can be identified as left then surely they are not lost.
Is there something magical about being a liberal?
By deegee
October 20, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this
I’m voting for Mark Taylor just so that we can name an expressway interchange after him. How about the Pork Chop cloverleaf.
By MinneapolisMike
October 20, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
The Shiite militia run by anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr is running Iraq ‘remarkably well’ in full accordance with the wishes and direction of their Vice President Cheney. Absolutely nothing to see here.
Remember, vote Republican or die. It is just that simple.
By Vote Against All Incumbents
October 20, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
Including Mark Taylor (cause changing offices still make you an incumbet scum bag). Can we burn the losers at the stake, pretty please? Can we, can we, purty please
By getalife
October 20, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this
Good Van,
Your 5% will help pay for the huge deficit paid to China.
Karma for the commie lovers.
Bwhahahahahahaha!
By getalife
October 20, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this
They should let al-Sadr be the new Saddam and get the hell out of that civil war.
By Brian Curtis
October 20, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this
“Is there something magical about being a liberal?”
Yes, it enables you to think and speak without getting promission from Fuhrer Bush first.
By Brian Curtis
October 20, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
Oops, that’s PERmission.
By Redneck Convert
October 20, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this
Well, my beer run took longer than I expected today, so I’m just now reading all the comments. I see TFTT has had another “stressful” nite judging by his words.
I wish Ida learned the multiplying tables and went past the 5th grade. Maybe I coulda been a troop in Iraq. But then I remember my pile-on cyst woulda still kept me out of the service, like Markus or Realist—whichever one of them had a big sore on his butt that kept him out of the military.
I cant figure out what some of these people are saying. If a guy writes about how he don’t like the war, somebody says he’s just a unhappy brother of somebody that was killed. If somebody writes that the brother was also in the service, somebody writes that his opinion don’t count anyway.
Anyway, it’s all very puzzling and Wooten had better get some better topics to write about and some better people to write about them. By the way, I got no simpathy for somebody making 300 thousand a year and complaining he’s having to pay 20% of it in taxes. That guy should try living on a beer truck driver’s pay.
By harold
October 20, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this
what is the big deal about kennedy leaving that girl to take care of herself?
that is the republican way!!!!!!!!!!
damned nannystate republicans these days
By Dusty
October 20, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this
Oh gee, Deegee,
There is something magical about being a liberal. For one, they believe in impossibilities that have no basis in reality. (Pelosi)
When liberal”reality” looms in front of them, they cannot see it. Invisibility!!(Kennedy)
When conservative “reality” comes before them,what was insignificant becomes monumental. Magnification!! (Hastert)
All this with the chameleonic ability to change colors to suit whatever environment they land on, that is truly magical. Some even call it voodoo. (DNC)
By Aquagirl
October 20, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
liberals believe in impossibilities and can’t see reality?
Conservatives think that if we just keep stuffing bodies into Iraq, it’ll get better. Now that’s believing in impossibility.
BTW, I posted yesterday asking all you chickenhawks where we’re going to get more troops to send, and all I heard in response was crickets chirping.
It’s a legitimate concern of military commanders that units are in a heavy rotation that cannot be sustained, keeping equipment up is becoming increasingly difficult, and recruiting standards have been lowered in a vain attempt to meet targets.
But keep ignoring those facts. Who cares about those soldiers, or reality anyhow? We gotta stay the course.
By Dusty
October 20, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this
Brian Curtis,
Your 3:13 sounds more like an “emission”.
By No Saddam Link
October 20, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this
Van your link is not proof…it’s just conjecture…the footnotes in that link don’t support your position about Saddam’s link to 911…they only demonstate suppositions but nothing brings them together as conclusive proof…feel free to respond…I don’t mind picking over each of the points that you believe (albeit falsely) point Saddam to 911.
By harold
October 20, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this
“staying the course” just means “tread water until democrats gain some power and can be blamed for the failure in Iraq”
this is why the republicans are “getting caught” in all these little scandals just before elections. they WANT democrats in power to implement the planned exit strategy: the democrats take the blame
By deegee
October 20, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this
Dusty, Nancy Pelosi is not an impossibility, she is a human being. Her basis in reality is that she exists in human form. She was democratically elected to congress. Nothing magical about that.
Looming, by definition means that something appears indistinctly. If someone sees something looming before them it is inaccurate to say they cannot see it. If it was invisible then it wouldn’t be looming.
If ignoring allegations of sexual misconduct with minors is by your definition insignificant then you could probably use a moral compass.
The chameleonic ability to change colors is derived by hormonal and nervous reactions. Unlike neocons, chameleons are not affected by the color of the background but by stimuli such as light, temperature, and emotion. It’s more cerebral than what you imagine.
By Dusty
October 20, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this
Aquagirl,
I must have missed my daily report from the military commanders in Iraq today.
Seems they have a direct line to you containing all their criticisms. Don’t know why you keep asking everybody questions when you seem to know all the answers. I guess it is that old “magical” liberal touch.
But you are right. “We gotta stay the course!” Yes indeed!! And support the troops. Now you have it.
By Van
October 20, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this
Aquagirl,
Congress controls how many troops each of the armed forces may have.
If they were to increase the size of the military, we could get back to the provisioning for a two front war. It would take time to build the services back up to that level.
With the troops in Germany and other foreigh bases, we have enough regular enlistees.
One of the problems, as I see it, is a hold over from the VietNam era. During WWII and Korea, the time in country was duration plus 6 months. Since VietNam, it has been a short 13 months deployment or less. Just about time the troops have established working relationships with the locals, have learned how to take care of their squad and how to stay alive, we rotate them out and start all over again with new ones.
Personally, we should only use the reservists for rear actions, MP’s and such. The front line troops, if there is something like that over there, should be regulars. Attack troops or shock troops, should be Marines, with the Army following behind to retain ground and clean up resistance.
Special Forces should be used for quick in and quick out strikes and not utilized as regular troops.
But, then I come from a different time and training and it is just an opinion.
By Van
October 20, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
No Saddam Link,
They support a link between Saddam and terrorists. Only the wacko lefties maintain a link between Saddam and 9/11.
WAKE UP
By Van
October 20, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this
Van’s a Liar and a Thief,
You must have missed my post yeaterday about this.
Also, someone with a job, usually drops in and out during the day. Unlike the lefties, who are sitting in the public library, having told their partner they are job hunting.
The fact that I can do both and fulfil my obilgations shows you jobless freaks it can be done.
By getalife
October 20, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this
Wrong again Van
But again, you have never been right.
Wake up Van!
By Political Foreskin
October 20, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this
Golly Gee, with armchair generals like Van on our side, who needs the Sunni Insurgency?
Hey Van, what will you do if you meet a terrorist? “I’d show him whose king of the forest!”
But Van, what will you do if you meet the Jihad? “Up his wazoo with a grenad.”
By Van
October 20, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this
deegee,
Regarding taxes -
I have charitable contributions and funding a 401k, I use these rich folk only tax breaks to lower my tax bill.
I still have my house note, but I am also retired from one blue chip company while working for another. My fuel bill is down, my natural gas bill is down, we eat simply but well and eat out maybe once a week.
As stated before, living below your means is the only way to provide for yourslef in the future and I will be able to provide for my future, Social Security (only 10 years away) will be the gravy and folks like getalife will be paying me to do nothing - you have got to love it, the irony is wonderful.
By Van's a Liar and a Thief
October 20, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this
you must have missed the major report out last week that revealed that multitasking results in p** poor performance on all tasks attempted. stop stealing van, not go refill those coke glasses, and bus a few tables. We all know you stop posting during your busy hours (lunch from 11-1) but we still have customers who eat lunch a little later.
By Dusty
October 20, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this
Now Deegee,
Would you like to discuss how many angels can sit on the head of a pin? You seem full of it today.
So, Pelosi is a human being democratically elected to Congress. What do you know? Just like George W. Bush was elected as President of the United States. And you support both, right?
And I suppose you are suggesting that the chamelion like qualities of the DNC are cerebral? That they change only with the light, temperture and emotion? Well, I might go with the l,t and e but I don’t know about cerebral. That is questionable.
Let us think great thoughts over the weekend. Put that “magic ” to work. Have a good one.
By Aquaman
October 20, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
You may pronounce that you have answered my question all day long but you have NEVER addressed this in any way shape or form.
Exactly how do you eplain away all those quotes questioning Clinton when we were in a state of war in Kosovo? Were all of those people, your hero GWB and his shill Karen “Talk About Hillary’s Cankles” Hughes somehow loving America less then because they were asking the exact same questions regarding mission and exit strategy as the opposition is asking current administration?
You admitedly addressed my first question but you have never in any form answered this one.
I suspect that you have no way of explaining away this hypocrisy. If that is the case then for God’s sake just say so.
By deegee
October 20, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
Sure, Ditzy, I mean Dusty. You have a good one too.
By Aquagirl
October 20, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this
Well, here’s a link to an AJC story, (I hope, never have posted a link) but I know y’all will dismiss it as completely worthless, as it’s from a LiberalCommiePinko paper:
[http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/stories/2006/10/06/1007metiraq.html]
And I’ll be back with some recruitment stuff.
By Now Vans a retired thief who busses tables at Waffle house as part of his "community Service"
October 20, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this
Gotcha van - you pumped out so much bs on this board, the floor is thick with flies. Get a job you lazy bum, and stop living off mom’s social security check!
By Van's Boss
October 20, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this
YOU’RE FIRED VAN! GET OUT! We warned you about monopolizing the take out computer bloging on the ajc like you know what you’re doing. Three times we warned you, now you’re gone. Take your three screaming little kids too, the one’s sitting in the 1991 Ford LTD in the parking lot all day. Our customers are not getting their email in orders because are telling the world how smart you are, not.
By Dusty
October 20, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
Aquaman,
I cannot answer questions about the Clinton administration or who said what. Or would it do any good.
You are in a depressed state seeking to place blame for your anger. I cannot help you. Maybe someone else can give you answers you want to hear. If not, try a professional.
By Ah can help Aquaman
October 20, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this
Clinton - Good
Bush - Evil
By deegee
October 20, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
Dusty, that sould be “NOR would it do any good.” And the statement should have been appended to the preceding sentence.
I think it would be nice if you would attempt to answer Aquaman’s question. No one is angry, we just want you to think about the question and answer it honestly.
By Van lives out of his van....
October 20, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
Van lives out of his van down by the river.
By Markus
October 20, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this
Richard at 12:14-
“Markus must be passed out now - after his long winded much ado about nothing. He shows he’s not an unbiased true observer.”
Well, DICK, since you chose not to address one single point about “nothing” I surmise my post was just a little over your head.
So, you noticed I’m unbiased, huh? Well you’ve got the eye of an eagle, assclown. What, you think this is a nuetral blog or something jackass?
By Markus
October 20, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this
Check that, DICK-
You notices I am NOT unbiased.
By Aquaman
October 20, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
This is not as hard as you are making it.
Time and again you have stated in this blog that critics of this administration have undermined the troops by their criticism. Below is a list of quotes by members of the GOP made during our involvement in Kosovo. The question is direct and simple. Did these comments undermine the troops, embolden the enemy and were they un-American.
And please stop patronizing me. I know all to well from whence I speak but the anger and fear I have are not tools to be used to dismiss my position.
Here are the quotes: “You can support the troops but not the president.” –Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
“Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?” –Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99
“[The] President … is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.” –Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)
“If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy.” –Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush
“I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today” –Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.” –Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)
By Aquagirl
October 20, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this
Aquaman, I don’t think you’re getting an answer. There isn’t one.
Oh, and recruiting…Just for the record.
(http://www.tbo.com/news/metro/MGB5G6QHZSE.html)
By Political Foreskin
October 20, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
Cheney says he’s not looking for an exit strategy. Well, VP, you have two exit strategies: Resignation, or Impeachment.
By Aquaman
October 20, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this
I supected as much.
I am normally not a combative guy but this hypocrisy is so glaring and nauseating that it boggles the mind. At least try and address the question. I mean hell, I disagreed with Dusty’s answer to the first question I asked but I respect the fact that the question was at least addressed. And in return I heard what she had to say, disagreed and dropped the issue.
I don’t think it is intellectually honest to take such a firm stand as to say I am not supporting my son with my criticism of the President but ignore me when I point out that such criticism has occured before in the other direction.
Silence = ignorance.
By Brian Curtis
October 20, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
Dusty wants easy answers, and she wants everyone who disagrees to shut up and stop making her think about stuff.
So she calls everyone who questions and talks “traitors” and “enemies of America,” a country with which she’s obviously unfamiliar.
By Political Foreskin
October 20, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
Why did they name Spaghetti Junction after our governer, Sonny Perdue? Because he’s such a meatball.
By oldpunk
October 20, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this
Jim, Jim, Jim.
All the financial scandals swirling around Republicans and you have to take up the Harry Reid tempest in a teapot.
Let’s review. Bought a 75% share in a plot of land. Transferred ownership to an LLC with said plot as only asset. Also owned 75%. Does he own it? According to the IRS, yes. So he reported ownership of the land. Sold it. Reported the profit. Where’s the ‘scandal’?
The other thing? Paid bonuses to janitors. What a bastard. His attorney said he could use campaign funds. He’s going to reimburse the fund out of pocket. Again nothing.
Jeez Jim. If he were a Republican this would be about #151 on the scandal list.
By Brian Curtis
October 21, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this
OldPunk: Good point! In fact, why don’t we take a page from the Republican Apologist hymnbook, like they did with Foley?
Let’s hurl hypothetical accusations about how reprehensible the Republican conduct would have been if it had been “one of theirs” embroiled in this scandal. They would’ve swept it under the rug, of course; they would’ve loudly declared that there’s nothing wrong with Reid’s actions, and that even questioning the ethics of it—suspiciously close to an election—is just further proof of the fanatical, hate-filled venom of the Far Right.
All of which would be true, come to think of it.