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Can’t spell doom for GOP just yet

Notes on the campaign:

• Republicans may lose control of the U.S. House, as pundits are predicting. If so, I’ll be shocked. In 17 of 20 open GOP seats, President Bush pulled 61 percent. A dozen of those are considered possible Democratic pick-ups. The Dems need 15. Georgia is unusual, but the only two competitive congressional races here are held by Democrats — Jim Marshall in Macon in the 8th and John Barrow of Savannah in the 12th. A win by Republicans in either would be a major upset. Prediction: Democrats gain 8 nationally, within the range predicted by Karl Rove. For most disgruntled Republicans, a House led by California’s Nancy Pelosi is no option.

• In the Georgia State Senate, the current lineup is 34 Republican, 22 Democrats. Republicans need four to pass constitutional amendments. Won’t happen now — or probably ever. The GOP’s about maxed out in the state Senate. Of the 22 Democrats, 18 are from districts won by John Kerry. Of the remaining four — Tim Golden of Valdosta, George Hooks of Americus, J.B. Powell of Blythe and Steve Thompson of Marietta — Hooks will retire at his pleasure; Golden shows the potential of being the Democrat who can survive among Republicans; and Thompson’s district is becoming more Democratic. Within four years he’s at risk from a challenger on his left, not his right. Powell’s district was won by President Bush and U.S. Sen. Johnny Isakson in 2004, when Powell won by 405 votes. Prediction: Neither party gains more than one seat.

• In the Georgia state House, the current lineup is 104 Republicans, 74 Democrats, one independent and one vacancy — though it’s effectively 104-76. This will likely be the low-point election for Democrats, who could lose another three to five seats, including the one held by former House Speaker Terry Coleman of Eastman.

President Bush won 123 of the 180 House seats. Of the 57 won by John Kerry, 45 are majority black in registration. The only Republican district Kerry won is Jill Chambers’ in DeKalb County. Blacks will, incidentally, constitute the majority of the minority in the new House.

Prediction: Republicans net four. The DeKalb County seat held by Republican Paul Jennings, who retired, is vulnerable.

• Long-term, while Democrats may lose seats in rural Georgia with redistricting in four years, their prospects are good in metro Atlanta. When black voter registration reaches 30 percent, Democrats gain the edge. In Clayton, which in January will become the first large county to send all-black delegation to the General Assembly, black registration increased from 45.3 percent in 2000 to 66.3 percent this year. Substantial increases have occurred in Cobb, Douglas, Gwinnett, Henry, Newton and Rockdale as well. Newton and Rockdale have topped 30 percent; Henry and Douglas are approaching it. Democrats will find new life in close-in counties that straddle the interstates.

• In Gwinnett, the black voting percentage has increased from 9.3 percent in 2000 to 17.8 percent now. In actual numbers white registration has increased by 6,272, and black registration gained by 30,754. Registration by Asians, Hispanics and others grew by 25,528.

The message for Republicans: Cultivate minorities or risk losing existing majorities, probably starting with the state Senate. Not soon, but I’d not count on state Senate control for more than another decade. • A 20-point lead in the last month of the campaign is an almost insurmountable gap for a candidate without money. Mark Taylor’s campaign had three major problems.

One is that money favors the party in power. The other is that Taylor actually needed the primary loser, Secretary of State Cathy Cox, to assure her band of female loyalists that she liked him. Didn’t happen. That hurt Taylor, but also her. A party on the ropes remembers its team players.

And finally, Taylor was hurt by the unwillingness of influential blacks to let him move to the right on crime. He returned to the issue over the weekend, but when he launched a TV ad campaign in September, liberal blacks warned him off.

• It still looks like an incumbent’s year to me. When voters are all over the waterfront, as they were in a late-September poll conducted for this newspaper by Mason-Dixon Polling and Research Inc., citing as top concerns crime, education, keeping a lid on taxes and the availability of health care, my reading is that they’re reciting the headlines. Doesn’t strike me as throw-the-bums-out issues.

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By Jim's a Distractor

October 17, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

Good Morning Jim,

Was wondering if you were going to cover any of these items, or if any of them had been accomplished yet…have the “bonds of trust” been restored?

REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA

As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.

That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.

This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.

Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.

On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:

FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;

SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;

THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third; FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;

FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;

SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;

SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;

EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.

By jbmlaw

October 17, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this

Good morning, all. Until I started reading Dick Morris, I though political science was one of those faux disciplines, Machiavelli notwithstanding. Jim’s essay sounds like instruction for Dick Morris. My guess is this essay will inflame some of our leftist moonbats, but there is really nothing inflammatory there. These conclusions may not be valid in Connecticut or Ohio, but the analytical technique is valid.

Thanks again to “Jim’s a Distractor” @ 8:18 for reminding us that the Democrats offer no policy at all, and are running a stealth campaign (“don’t look at the man behind the curtain there.”)

By Brotha

October 17, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

Jim’s entire blog can be summarized in 18 words:

If those damn blacks start voting, us whiteys won’t be able to do anything we want to anymore.

Typical Racist Republicanism.

By So When Will Harry Reid Resign Or Get Convicted, When He Becomes A Republican?

October 17, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

Hitting the nail on the head:

For most disgruntled Republicans, a House led by California’s Nancy Pelosi is no option.

Voting democrat would be like treating the flu by drinking some rat poison.

Based on your predictions, I predict that you will see some seriously apoplectic pinkos in here today.

By Rod

October 17, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

Here’s an EXCELLENT article in yesterday’s AJC about the failure in the War in Iraq that warrants repeated attention. And Jim actually wonders why Republicans are losing control:

“It’s over.

American troops are still fighting and dying in Iraq and will be for months to come as we try to extricate ourselves from this mess, but it’s over.

The U.S. Army may be planning ways to keep 140,000 troops in Iraq until at least 2010, but it’s over. It’s just over.

What we’re doing in Iraq cannot be sustained, not militarily and not politically, and after the election a lot of people are going to start saying so. They’ll say so if the Democrats take control of one or both chambers of Congress, and they’ll say so if Republicans remain in control. Because it’s over, and everyone knows it.

In Baghdad, 65 percent of Iraqis now support an immediate pullout of U.S. forces from their country, according to a U.S. government poll. A second poll, conducted by the University of Maryland, found that 71 percent of Iraqis want us gone within a year, and more than 60 percent of Iraqis support attacks on the U.S. troops who are fighting and dying to try to protect them. That number says it’s over.

It is impossible to win a counterinsurgency in which 60 percent of the people you’re supposed to be helping want to see your soldiers dead.

Our allies know it’s over, too. In Britain, Prime Minister Tony Blair is being forced from office largely because of his support for the war. And last week, Britain’s top general publicly advocated withdrawal of British troops from Iraq for redeployment to Afghanistan, where they are badly needed and victory is still possible.

“I am a soldier speaking up for his army,” Gen. Sir Richard Dannatt told the press. “I am just saying, ‘Come on, we can’t be here forever at this level.’ “

Here at home, public support for the war has disappeared as well. In a Gallup poll, 66 percent of Americans disapprove of how President Bush is handling Iraq. In a CNN poll, 62 percent oppose the war.

The most telling numbers, though, come from a poll by the Institute for Southern Studies, based in Durham, N.C. Its survey of 13 Southern states found that 56 percent of Southerners believe that U.S. troops should be partially or completely withdrawn from Iraq, which is about the sentiment of the nation as a whole. Eighty-nine percent of Southerners say they are a little to very saddened about the war; only 12 percent say they are proud of the war.

When you’ve lost even the South, it’s over. Pretending that we can sustain our effort in Iraq for several more years with such meager support here at home is sheer fantasy.

Our best political leaders, Republican and Democratic alike, know that, too. U.S. Sen. John Warner (R-Va.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, returned recently from Iraq and said that if trends aren’t reversed in two or three months, it will be time to change course, with all options on the table. James Baker, the Republican chairman of a bipartisan commission expected to issue its report on Iraq after the election, says the same.

“I think it’s fair to say our commission believes that there are alternatives between the stated alternatives, the ones that are out there in the political debate, of ‘stay the course’ and ‘cut and run,’ ” Baker said. And of course, the facts on the ground say it’s over as well. U.S. troop levels are at the highest level since the invasion. We’ve scavenged soldiers and Marines from other parts of Iraq to focus on Baghdad, and we now claim hundreds of thousands of Iraqi troops trained and ready to help.

Yet with all that, the number of attacks in Baghdad keeps rising, the number of U.S. deaths continues to increase, the civilian death toll is still soaring and the Iraqi government is incapable of taking action. Last week, Shiite and Kurdish members of Iraq’s Parliament passed legislation creating a process for splitting the nation into pieces. They know it’s over, too. President Bush, of course, continues to bluster.

“When you pull out before the job is done, that’s cut-and-run as far as I’m concerned,” he said last week.

Our president can’t even work up the courage it would take to acknowledge his mistakes. He lacks the guts.

By clinging to the fantasy that this is still workable, he and his dwindling circle of supporters may hope to dump the blame for its collapse on those who force a change of course, but it’s not going to work.

He chose this war. He chose the means by which it was fought. Congress and the American people gave him everything he asked, and it’s over.

Now, men and women better than he is will step in and try to clean up his mess.

• Jay Bookman

By Van

October 17, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

It appears all the democrat attack dogs turned into toothless puppies.

Brotha,

If all those that do not vote, would get off their white or black lard butts and learn what is going on and vote - things might be a little better. Of course, an informed voter is the death of the Democrat party.

By Southern Democrat

October 17, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

Good morning to the sane bloggers on here. I do think that Mr. Wooten’s analysis is spot on and that the GOP will maintain a majority in the House and Senate.

The current situation is eerily (in my opinion) reminiscent of the Democrats’ control of Congress in the 70s and 80s. Then, the GOP was the opposition party with no real message beyond “We can do better than those guys” and “If we controlled the White House AND Congress, stuff would get DONE around here.” The 1994 Republican Revolution showed that voters were tired of the Democratic Do-Nothing Congress and wanted a change. Of course, the Democrats were crippled by internal fissures of the pro-life faction, the African-American faction, the moderate Democrat faction, the California liberal faction, etc.

The same is about to occur, but not yet, I don’t think. The Democratic party stands for absolutely nothing beyond, “Those guys are really bad.” There are a few charismatic leaders: Obama, Casey, Cleland, Schumer, etc., but no real cohesive message. Until the Democrats can come together and say, let’s agree on how to fix Iraq, protect ourselves and our allies (including from Iran and North Korea) and how to increase health insurance, reduce our trade deficit, improve education, and allow more legal immigration to help us maintain our competitive advantage over Europe and China, the Democrats will not wrest control of the legislative body. Voters right now are simply faced with the sad choice of “the devil they know versus the devil they don’t” and this is clearly the fault of the Dems.

The GOP, however, is beginning to show signs of fissures within its ranks. The evangelical far right must soon decide if they are content with the trade-off of getting a few issues of theirs addressed while being ignored on many others, fiscal conservatives are up in arms about the bloated bureaucracy and the tax-and-spend nature of this Congress, some hawkish conservatives recognize the failure of the neo-con approach to foreign policy and are uneasy about the weakened capacity of our Armed Forces to currently fight a major two front war, and, finally, my fellow hunters and fishermen are fed up with the laissez faire attitude towards the environment.

Sorry for the long post, but I do think that we are seeing the beginning of the end of GOP control of Congress, but I don’t think 2006 will be the year in which it occurs.

By Van

October 17, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

Rod,

Gee, let me think here - I can believe the US Commanding Generals in Iraq or I can believe some pinko defeatocrat columnist that works for the Al Jazeera Constipation.

That is a tough choice.

By getalife

October 17, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

A Dem majority will bring checks and balance to our government.

This is how our democracy was set up to run.

Pelosi says yes, on her terms: “If Democrats are in control of the House, the president will have to listen,” she said.

After all the failures, scandals, and hatred from the rest of the world, it would be insane to vote for business as usual.

Of course, the “neonuts” will vote gop no matter what has happened to our country but real Americans will win a Dem majority to try to clean up the mess.

By Van

October 17, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Yes, I will vote GOP this time, you want to know why - there is no one in the democrat party that has any idea of what to do.

You have no leaders with fresh ideas, no leaders with conviction in their own stand and no one that will say what they stand for and stay true to it.

And I really do not want an avowed socialists for Speaker of the House, that would be a sure defeat for America in more ways than Iraq.

By deegee

October 17, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

I live in one of the reddest of the red counties in Georgia. Our primary election in August saw a 66% increase in the number of Democrat ballots cast from the primary election two years ago. While my district is gerrymandered to ensure that it stays red, I can conclude that some of the sheep are straying from the herd.

By JK

October 17, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

Getalife, I wish you were right, but I think Mr. Wooten is right. THE REPUBLICANS WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER! Hey, you can’t beat “Strategery!” If only we could learn to be like THEM….

By Alan Abramowitz

October 17, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Wooten’s numbers on GOP open seats are wrong. There are actually 21 open Republican House seats now and the average Bush percentage in these 21 seats was 58 percent. But that’s not what matters. The significant fact is that in 10 of these open Republican seats, Bush’s margin was less than 5 points. Democrats have an excellent chance of picking up all 10 of these seats. Moreover, contrary to Wooten’s claim that this is shaping up to be a good year for incumbents, every national poll shows that the anti-incumbent mood in the electorate is stronger this year than it was in 1994 and that this anti-incumbent sentiment is directed disproportionately at Republican incumbents. According to the highly respected Cook Political Report, 18 Republican House incumbents and 6 Republican Senate incumbents are now in serious danger of losing their seats. Not a single Democratic House incumbent and only one Democratic Senate incumbent is in serious danger of losing.

By Lisa

October 17, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

Dems get Tim McGraw, we get Mike Tyson and Don King ?

By hoads

October 17, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

I agree with Jim Wooten, Republicans shouldn’t go into this election with a defeatist attitude. Democrats have produced nothing of substance and are relying on creating an illusion of scandal and corruption to bring down the Republicans. I think Conservative voters are more savvy than Democrats credit them. The “dirty politics” methods with fake polls and salacious headlines may rally the Democrat’s base but just as in 2004, Republicans will not be detered and will again surprise all as they come out of the woodwork to cast their votes on Nov. 7.

By JoeD

October 17, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

Who in the GOP has any idea what to do? And if they have an idea, why haven’t they done it in the last six years, when they had complete control of the government?

By RW-(the original)

October 17, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Our government was set up with three coequal branches to provide checks and balances, not some lame brained scheme that says you have to vote for Democrats in Congress if you have a Republican President.

If a Democrat wants my vote they are going to have to tell me why I should vote FOR them, so far all I’ve heard is that they aren’t Republicans. That’s not good enough, it’s like a used car dealer asking me to trust them only to find I have a transmission full of sawdust.

By Lisa

October 17, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

If those are the blacks that we need to “culitvate” then we are dead, Jim.

By Assclowniis Maximus

October 17, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Jim is way off. I think he is making up his own numbers to help spin and get democrats to stay home believing the incumbents have it. Nationally it is not inconceivable for dems to pick up 20 seats.

By Realist

October 17, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this

A nuclear crisis is looming with N. Korea. Iran must be dealt with. Iraq has to be finished one way or another. Terrorist are as we speak devising ways to attack us again. In this atmoshphere, no way do the American people put liberals in power. No way.

Talk is cheap. Voter conscious and self preservation takes over in the booth.

By Curious Yellow

October 17, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

Dont forget the Witch of November: Diebold.

THE GOP STILL HAS DIEBOLD in every district.

The liberals wont gain even one seat. There has been a silent coup. Our country is in the hands of foreign influences, unwarranted and unwanted, and even our right to vote is owned by the GOP’s own Diebold.

The GOP is abandoning their old labels. Now they are “Traditionalists”.

TRADITION!!! Like a fondler on the schoolhouse roof! If I were a acquited, dee dee da da dee dee da da da, all day long I’d fondle fondle dee, if I were acquited, man!!

sung to the tune of “Fiddler on the Roof’s If I were a Rich Man.”.

In act two, there’s this classic: “Unwise, Upset, Unwise, Upset, Swiftly blame the page….” (sung to the tune of sunrise, sunset)

By Assclowniis Maximus

October 17, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

Realist, playing the fear card is so passe.

Here’s some latest on the national elections - not as well reasearched as Jim’s I’m sure.

By time for the truth

October 17, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

You see what sheeple the blacks and liberals are in GA, unthinkingly and robotically voting demoNcrat for all the racial spoils/vote buying promised by their vile party of hate and now the party of cut and run. Thankfully such robotic black and liberal voting doesn’t count for much outside the already lost “urban” heavy crime rate metro counties.

The folks in GA had more than a gargantuan Taylor like mobidly obese belly full of demoNcrats, which is why after a century or more of demoNcrat rule the racial spoils pandering blacks and left were pretty recently and decisively kicked out of power. The demoNcrats were no longer able to fool most of the GA people most of the time. Praise be to Allaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!

To uppity morons like brutha … cheers for the smirks bubbakins, your pathetic post was enormously amusing and much appreciated.

The shrewish far leftist Pelosi has been all but crowned’ as the HCWIC - head cow what’s in charge - but this may not happen. The pathetic utterly shameful thing is that 50% of US voters have NO idea who this thing is, nor do they know who Hastert is. One can only reasonably conclude that most voters are complete, blissfully ignorant morons. If they dont know who even the main protagonists are and the kind of (even general) policies, tone and ideology of the top leadership then their votes are at the very least pathetically uninformed. Happily the voting stats consistently prove that most of these morons dont vote anyway. Most Americans cant name both their D.C. senators and house representative, let alone their local state politicians. Hence the obsession with “name recognition” and endless campaign signs with candidate names, hoping to *inform” the assembled peasantry.

By Crackey!

October 17, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

Cant spell “Doom”? How about “Broom”?

Liberals will sweep the house in November!!!!

By getalife

October 17, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

Van,

There have been posts showing the Dems plans and Pelosi’s first 100 hours. Watch C-Span when they come back and you just might learn something about the Dems plans.

RW,

They are not called the “rubber stamp Congress” for nothing. It is useless arguing with you because you are one of the “neonuts” who will vote gop no matter what.

By getalife

October 17, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

JK,

The diebold problems have hit the courts already and I think this election will be contested after the voting. It is insane not to have a paper trail and will cause nothing but problems.

Of course in Mexico, they had video of the cons throwing paper ballots into the dumpster without being counted. They hit the streets in protest to no avail. I doubt we will even hit the streets.

By time for the truth

October 17, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

They are not called the “rubber stamp Congress” for nothing. It is useless arguing with you because you are one of the “neonuts” who will vote gop no matter what.

HUGE I DESPISE LIBERALS SMIRK

Its even more pointless “arguing” with you maggot brain because you are one of the far left irrational Bush hating nutters will vote demoNcrat no matter what!!

By Van

October 17, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Curious Yellow,

Face it, if the GOP did steal the elections in 2000 and 2004, what chance do you have with a mid term.

It is funny thought that the democrats whined until they got the new electroninc voting machines and now they whine about having the electronic voting machines.

By RW (the aboriginal)

October 17, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Bush’s soft handling of N. Korea is a failed policy. Iraq is a failed policy. The Bush led GOP is a failed party.

But, if you need a Hallmark Card slogan or sentimental wish, then BUSH is your man.

New slogans for the GOP: “Sunni or later, we’ll Spin The Win in Iraq.”

“Our hearts and prayers go out to each and every one of the families of the 650,000 Iraqi civilians who have been killed…”

“Zions, and Tigris, and Emirs…oh my!”

“IEDs and IOUs, no fly zones and RPGs, these are a few of my favorite things…..”

“Lordy, lordy, the war is four years…..YOUNG!”

By RW-(the original)

October 17, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

getalife,

I think you already know that I voted a Democrat ballot in the primaries. President Bush just signed the Military Commission Act which had to battle with Republicans in Congress to pass and Social Security reform went nowhere, so it’s not too much of a rubber stamp in spite of the Koz Kiddies calling it that. In fact slogans like that are ALL the Dems have to offer it seems.

By Buy Danish

October 17, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

Bozo,

N. Korea and Iran are “passe’”? Nice try, but remember that the American people, by and large, are on to you Dems and your congenital weakness on national security and foreign policy.

This is from your own link:

Please pay attention to this cautionary note…We all should fight the natural tendency to pull down the curtain on any election before the end of the last act. In the case of 2006, even fine-tuning has the potential to shift control of one or both houses of Congress over to Democrats or back to Republicans

I wouldn’t pop those champagne corks just yet. You may want to keep some beer on hand to cry in as a contingency plan.

By Van

October 17, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Pelosi’s first 100 hours would be a disaster for America, plain and simple. Welcome to the Socialists Republic of America.

By RW-(the original)

October 17, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this

Polly Prepuce (the aboriginal),

Trying to play off my name to get yourself some attention is only going to work if you grow up and get some new material.

By Realist

October 17, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

I just want to say, in an effort to prevent some from continuing to embarrass themselves here everyday, that the daily cartoon ideas, nursery rhymes and clever sayings, are truly not at all funny.

Obviously someone fancies themselves as somewhat of a writer or comic, perhaps they think they missed thier true calling in life, I dont know. I personally dont see it. Its rather boring and sometimes a downright pitiful attempt to get attention.

To whoever you are, you have tried your material, it has failed again and again, so please, do yourself a favor and move on.

By RW (the aboriginal)

October 17, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

Nancy Pelosi is hot. Let’s face it. With Hillary, Nancy, McKinney, and Kerry’s wife Theresa, man oh man, it’s going to be a beauty pageant everytime congress convenes, man. Bert Parks will have to sing everytime Hillary gives her State of the Union speech: “Here she comes….Miss America…”

CSPAN will be the new playboy channel.

The official congressional record will soon have a centerfold.

THe GOP will have to try to sleaze their way back into power by filing federal lawsuits charging the democrats with discrimination against the pages when they choose the babe of the month.

By JK

October 17, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

Getalife, I was in AWE of the Ukranians a couple years back. Remember how they stood out in the square, in 20 degree cold, for like a WEEK, and said, “This is BS and we’re not gonna take it!” They were right, and got their rightful leader, even though his opponents poisoned and almost killed him. (His good looks were gone, but he was so brave.) That can’t happen here, though. If there’s any question, Murdoch will get FOX to air a very special American Idol, and the masses will flock to their TV’s thinking it’s SO VERY important to vote!

I think the question people should ask is, WOULD RICH POWERFUL MEN LIE, STEAL, CHEAT, OR KILL TO RETAIN WEALTH AND POWER? Or do those people only exist in the movies? (Perhaps rich powerful American men are ALL totally good honest Christians who got rich by tithing weekly and never cheating.) Hmmm…

By Brian Curtis

October 17, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

So, can anyone point to reason to vote for the Republicans? Any reason at all?

Surely not their record of achievements. Surely not their integrity and honesty. Surely not how they’ve delivered on their promises.

So… Is there ANY reason to vote for these losers?

By JoeD

October 17, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

Yeah, that’s the ticket. Read a propaganda article by Newt Gingrich and parrot back his idea of the Democratic plan. That’s good, solid research. Of course, Newt will give it to you straight. If not, try Rush or Sean. They will tell you what the Democrats will do. Brilliant!

By RW-(the original)

October 17, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

Haven’t we already given you this Civics lesson a few dozen times? You don’t get to go to the polls and vote for “the Republicans” or “the Democrats.”

By Curious Observer

October 17, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

We are hearing the usual from the moronic right—Dems will raise your taxes, etc. The moonbats have led us into a train wreck—in foreign policy, in fiscal discipline, and in social responsibility—and now they’re whining about the prospect of losing control of Congress. There may be a reason that the public is dissatisfied with the present course of government. Hello! Earth calling!

A Democratic House will effectively put a check on Dubya for his remaining two years or so. Dubya won’t sign any bill he doesn’t like, and the House won’t pass any more rubber-stamp bills. Dubya will finally have to learn to compromise. Instead of Clinton vs. Newt, we will have Dubya vs. Nancy. Everybody wins, except the moonbats, who would love nothing better than a plutocratic, fundamentalist government. And a closer Senate split will make it impossible for the Republicans to steamroll the confirmation of future fascists like Scalito and Roberts. The good of America wins there, too.

My reading of the polls leads me to believe that, short of a page 1 spread of Pelosi in bed with the family billy goat, the Democrats will take the House and come within 1 or 2 seats of taking the Senate.

Go ahead and whistle while you’re walking through that nighttime graveyard, Wooten. You aren’t fooling anybody.

By Van

October 17, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

getabrain-

As part of Pelosi’s first 100 hours - she said

All the days after that: “Pay as you go,” meaning no increasing the deficit, whether the issue is middle class tax relief, health care or some other priority.

To do that, she said, Bush-era tax cuts would have to be rolled back for those above “a certain level.” She mentioned annual incomes of $250,000 or $300,000 a year and higher, and said tax rates for those individuals might revert to those of the Clinton era. Details will have to be worked out, she emphasized.

These folks are already paying in the 20+% average taxes, I guess she really wantts to kill business in America.

By Brian Curtis

October 17, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

RW: So, you have no answer and instead quibble about wording? Thought so.

By getalife

October 17, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

Here is Pelosi’s first 100 hour plan without the “neonut” opinion

I am not a Dem but if they screw up the country like the gop, I will use my freedom of speech against them.

My party is my country.

By In the Middle

October 17, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

This year is an easy vote: if they are in office regardless of party I vote for the other one.

It’s simple, they are all useless and deserve to be kicked to the curb.

By Buy Danish

October 17, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Here is Wiki’s bio of that inspirational [Ukranian hero that JK, the left wing conspiracy kook, likes to claim as her own.}(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko)

He is a staunch anti-communist who was poisoned by former KGB members. That would make him more like a Reaganite who supports liberal economic policies than any Liberal Democrat who doesn’t.

Wouldn’t you know it - his political rival tried to call him a “Nazi”. There must not be a word for “neocon” in the Ukraine.

By RW-(the original)

October 17, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

It’s not “quibbling with wording” to tell you that there is no meaning whatsoever to your question. We would have to completely overhaul our system of government for there to be any reason to entertain your question.

Other than endless and pointless investigations, it doesn’t really matter if Democrats take the House, they won’t be anywhere close to a veto proof majority. I think it is important to keep the Senate in Republican hands so we don’t end up with more judges that will give someone that has been convicted of materially aiding terrorists a slap on the wrist and a free pass while she appeals.

I still only get to vote in my local district though.

By jbmlaw

October 17, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

Dear Southern Democrat @ 9:15, please do not apologize for your prose – you are one of the highlights on the blog.

Dear JK @ 10:40, are you talking about the original list of 47? I worked for one of these guys. http://www.stewwebb.com/Murder%20Clinton%20Death%20List.html

By yellowdog

October 17, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

As long as there are homosexuals, the GOP will have an issue !!!

By getalife

October 17, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

W is ready to cut and run now

By Buy Danish

October 17, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Day One: Put new rules in place to “break the link between lobbyists and legislation.”

Getalife,

Do the Senate Democrats have similar plans to Pelosi’s pipe dream? This is a bit awkward for Harry Reid and all his sons.

By JK

October 17, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw, that is TOOOO funny!! Holla when the wealth amassed by the Clinton dynasty comes close to the playas in the Carlyle Group, and then I might believe they’ve killed for it. Clinton’s entire fortune is the kind of pocket change these guys fling around at an after-dinner poker game…. or to the photographers to leave Bushie alone while he’s tongue-kissing the Saudi prince.. remember the Saudi’s? Didn’t think so.

The Repub congress spent $70 mil investigating the guy, yet, they covered up the “evidence” in your little link, to prosecute him on a sure-fire sex lie instead of bringing him down on murder charges? Uh-huh. Sure. Three years, $70 mil… oh, but it MUST be true, because you’d like for it to be, right Lawyer man? Hahaha!

By We're Gonna Raise Your Taxes!!!!

October 17, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

JoeD: To do that, she said, Bush-era tax cuts would have to be rolled back for those above “a certain level.” Details will have to be worked out, she emphasized.

Sounds the same when it comes right from the horses mouth, don’t it, clown?

By Lisa

October 17, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

Again,

A lawyer with a liberal arts degree..is nothing but a glorified history teacher.

By MELO

October 17, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

CONTRACT WITH THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT, JACK ABRAMOFF,BOB NEY,TOM DELAY,CHENEY AND THE REPUBLICAN LOONIES.

To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves

By Chazman

October 17, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Dang jbmlaw, talk about throwing out all credibility. Bringing out the “death list” are we? Wondering what everyone thought of Dekalb county ticketing ($100) the lady for the anti Bush bumper sticker. Do you on the right think that was OK? If you do, where do we go from there?

By Monarch Hames

October 17, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

The Republican GOP can not be allowed to win so they can continue to seek after the priveledged and take aways the share of others. The court must be sought to stop this from happening. Too much has been gained to allow GOP voters to turn time back on the hands of the clock.

By Markus

October 17, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

All I know is that the party of the Jackass (and it’s mindless minion media whores like Chris Matthews) had better have their OWN plan should they not win back power in the House and/or Senate in three weeks.

More bad news for the Democrits: polls show that only about 25% of the voters will take into account the Republican scandals in this election. After hammer after hammer by the Democritss, after screaming headlines after screaming headlines by the liberal media whores from CNN to Newsweek to the New York Slimes, it appears the bombs that have been tossed still hasn’t blown up in Republican’s faces. And God knows the Republicans have done more than their fair share of screwups, or as Sandypants Berger, the Teflon Don of the Clintoon era said, being “sloppy.

No, a lot of Americans out there know what that old dried up bat Pelosi and her Democrit minions have in store the first 100 eays: start impeachment proceedings, jack up taxes again, repeal the estate tax (like it’s THEIR money or something, communist pigs), scale back the War on Islamofascism, pull out of Iraq, use “talks” to deal with North Korea and Iran (who the HELL do they think they are kidding criticizing Bush for not doing enough about NK?), and get a plan in action to take away a healthcare system that is perfectly good for 84% of US citizens and turn it over to the federal government bureaucracy so the other whopping 16% can have their “free” healthcare.

No, as the hard left like the Pelosis and Deans continue to call themselves “progressives” (like good little Stalinists), as the hard left continues to promote the “Good of the whole” like universal healthcare (like good little Stalinists), the majority of Americans will FULLY reject the Jackass party that’s been hijacked by the loon left. They’ll take more and more of your money, they’ll take your healthcare, and if anyone thinks all of their socially “progressive” ideas can only be funded by the top 10% of income tax payers, they need to be hit over the head with a reality bat.

The ONLY reason the Republicans are in trouble is because they have gone off the trail of being a true Conservative. Many Americans know the alternative to the GOP, and it’s even worse. All of that said, the Democrit jackass party needs to develop a plan of their own to deal with not winning in three weeks. May I first suggest going on mutual suicide watch with fellow cohorts, taking blood pressure medication, staying away from alcohol, and finding a good shrink.

By Markus

October 17, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

This is why the ACLU and CAIR needs to be eradicated from America:

As if narco-terrorist violence were not enough, extensions of Middle East terrorism have crept into the United States,” the report stated. “Islamic radical groups that support Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamiya Al Gamat are all active in Latin America.

I can’t wait to see what the Jackass Party has in store for us trying to track down these bastards.

By Markus

October 17, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Once again, the party of the Jackass, the Democrits, show their double-standard hypocrisy. If ANY Republicans had done what Dirty Harry Reid did, his @ss would be heading off to trial right ala Duke Cunningham now.

Once again, the party of the Jackass, and the lack of a media witch hunt, shows us the true meaning of hypocrisy and bias. DISGUSTING.

By getalife

October 17, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Dems will bring accountability:

“Pelosi also vowed “to use the power to investigate” the administration on multiple fronts, starting with the task force convened in secret by Vice President Cheney to devise the administration’s energy policy. The administration has successfully fought lawsuits since 2001 that sought to reveal the names of energy company executives tapped to advise the task force.

“Certainly the conduct of the war” in Iraq would be the subject of hearings, if not a full-fledged House investigation, Pelosi said. Another subject for investigation could be the use of intelligence on Saddam Hussein’s alleged weapons of mass destruction to make the case for the 2003 invasion.

Hoyer added that he would like to see investigations into the extent of domestic wiretapping by the National Security Agency, and the billions of dollars wasted by contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

By RW (the aboriginal)

October 17, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

The State Elections Board of Georgia, which knew that photo IDs were not required, sent our over 300K letters to Hispanic voters in key districts which cajoled those lucky recipients to obtain a valid Frito ID.

To get the poor voters to open the envelope, across the front in Big Red Letters it reads, “You may already be disenfranchised!”

By getalife

October 17, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Dems plan for real security

gop plan.

Stay the course.

By Markus

October 17, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

Spazman-

Wondering what everyone thought of Dekalb county ticketing ($100) the lady for the anti Bush bumper sticker. Do you on the right think that was OK?

Was there an offensive cuss word on that sticker or not? Drive around ANYWHERE with a F* Y sticker on your car and see how far you get.

That said, I am all for free speech. She can have whatever bumper sticker she wants so long as it has lawful language. After all, she can risk getting a rock or pie thrown at her at worse, or a middle finger at best… oh wait, we Conservatives don’t act like that towarads our political foes. My bad.

By Van

October 17, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

getalife ,

The dems wouldn’t know real security if it bit them on their Pelosi’s.

Clinton didn’t know it, thought it was a law enforcement problem, Carter didn’t know it, he never met a dictator he didn’t like.

The Defeatocrats history will be their undoing.

By RW-(the original)

October 17, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

Polly Prepuce (the aboriginal),

If you’re going to insist on gravy training off of my name you should try to use facts. Check out the State Elections board and the Secretary of State’s office for more information on your conspiracy theory about disenfranchising these poor Democrat voters and then ask yourself why Democrat Cathy Cox would let that happen.

By Redneck Convert

October 17, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

All this talk about Democrats winning has the missus scared to death. She says the Dems are out to get people like us. We have our own trailer, except for a mortgage from Beneficial Finance, and I make almost 20K a year.

It’s richer people like us that the Dems want to tax to pay for benefits for Those People. Me and people like Sonny are land owners, you see, except his is worth a pitiful 2 million dollars, instead of the 40 million that the crook Mark Taylor says he has. And like Sonny I got a tax break, except mine was for 40 bucks for claiming my land was farm property and his was 100 thousand, which he barely got in time last April. The Dems tryed to cheat him out of it.

The Revrend Billy Bob Buice of our Jesus Saves Freewill Baptist Church says the Dems will force us to let the gay people marry. Then our own marriages will be made null and void. This is all scary, but I ain’t getting my hopes up that he’s right.

Anyway, we will all gather at the church on Nov. 7 to be led to the polls by the Revrend Billy Bob. He will have a sample ballot to show us how to vote God’s way. He claims it’s not a violation of IRS regs, cause he don’t plan to hand out the sample ballot till we’re off church property.

By JK

October 17, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

Van’s RIGHT! We need tough-talking leadership…. that KNOWS how to deal with the Saudi monarch after a bunch of Saudi citizens crash planes into buidings. They’ll blame whomever they WANT to, and don’t you try muck things up with FACTS, doggone it! It’s that tough talk (and smoochie smoochie) that keeps us safe!

By CC

October 17, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

Ultimate power ultimately corrupts. The GOP came in on a populist wave. But their hypocrisy, greed and vulgar butt-covering have reduced them to a shell of their former selves. Now it’s time to wave goodbye.

By jbmlaw

October 17, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Dear Chazman @ 12:07 and JK @ 11:49, you both wilfully overlook the fact that I was chiding – humorously, I thought – JK’s uncharacteristically silly rant: “I think the question people should ask is, WOULD RICH POWERFUL MEN LIE, STEAL, CHEAT, OR KILL TO RETAIN WEALTH AND POWER? Or do those people only exist in the movies? (Perhaps rich powerful American men are ALL totally good honest Christians who got rich by tithing weekly and never cheating.) Hmmm…”

Nevertheless, long before these “mysterious deaths lists” – there were many - were first published, our longest-term client called me one night, talking about my boss, and he truly believed “they got him.” In all honesty, I don’t believe “they got him,” although there was motive and opportunity. In direct answer to JK’s original note, people ask that question all the time. We have black-helicopter types on the right also.

By Welfare Queen Convert

October 17, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

All this talk about Republicans winning the election has my wife scared. I don’t own nothing, living in the housing projects, except for my 60” TV and satelittle dish. The kids huddle around the DVD player to keep warm.

I owe all of this to the democrats, they have made me what I am today. I don’t have to work tomorrow, they tax the rich folk and send me almost $750 a month. I can hang out all day with nothing to do.

Like Teddy Kennedy says we should be lucky to have democrats looking out for us. And all they want in return is our vote!

By jbmlaw

October 17, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

Dear Chazman @ 12:07, you ask one good question, that deserves a more thoughtful answer: what do I think about the lady with the obscene bumber sticker?

I don’t particularly care about the fact of the ticketing; if we had a lawsuit everytime a policeman made a mistake that inconvenienced someone, the courts would not have time to take care of serious business (yes, there is SOME.)

On the other hand, I truly think it helps my side everytime one of the moonbats uses impolite language to lambaste my side. My bottome line: Have at it; I’ll take the decent people’s votes.

By jbmlaw

October 17, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

Dear JK @ 12:53, yes, thanks to Clinton and Carter and North Korea, we see exactly how effective Democrat appeasement is. We look forward to more of it.

By Buy Danish

October 17, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

JK,

Sure thing. That Clinton appointee judge who just sentenced terrorist enabler Lynne Stewart to a paltry 28 months in prison has done a bang-up job of hand-holding that despicable hag’s hands.

Democrats cannot be trusted with our national security.

By Techie

October 17, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

By Techie October 17, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this Rod, wooten is an idiot, hence the nick name of if-i-only-had-a-brain, imho. His competition at the ajc is so weak, he is able to keep his job as mouth-piece for the right wing bigots. Fear not, revenge is just around the corner. The neo-scum plan to attack Iran on or shortly after October 21, 2006. Iran will take heave loses, but they will fight back, and the cheap oil uncle stupid has been stealing from the arab peoples will stop flowing. The fake american economy is underpinned by the printing of 1 trillion new dollars per year, and the dollar is underpinned by arab oil. All that changes when the oil stops flowing. The dollar will go to zero on foreign exchange markets, imports will drop to zero, our oil stocks will plung daily, and it will be back to the 19th century for america. The Fat-ASSet repukes will see their jobs disappear and their savings become worthless, just like the Germans of 1923. Adolf Von Bush and his neo-scum pals will take america from democracy to AmeriKa the facist. ‘course, bushie and pals may wear brown shirts, and talk all tough, but underneath, they all wear pink panties, and are chicken-s** cowards

By Techie October 17, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this All true Harold. The brutality of the neo-scums is in direct proportion to their under lying cowardlyness. Rummy, Wolfie, Libbie and Chaney would not last five minutes under the kinds of torture they have ordered inflicted on their Arab prisioners. Their pink panties would quickly fill with the brown truth of their own cowardlyness, anf yellow ribbons of surrender would stain the purty pink fronts of their lace covered panties.

By Cletus Snow

October 17, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

Wooten, it never ceases to amaze me the way you attract the whacos and looneys,its like flys on sheet.

By SamX

October 17, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

I dunno Jim have you ever heard of the Jerry Springer Theory?

American voters seem to be sending a pre-election message. Liberal Democrat Jerry Springer who can’t dance a lick is now the favorite on Dancing With The Stars. All the conservatives have already been dumped by the call-in voters, including that wimpy conservative Tucker Carlson, who was the first “star” tossed.

Yes, based on the Jerry Springer Theory, I predict a landside victory for the Democrats, three weeks from today.

By Van B***

October 17, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

If the neo scum had any guts to them at all, they would pickup an m16, and join the troops on the streets of baghdad. that won’t happen, cause the neo scum are cowards though and through, just as the arm chair generals and pseudo patriots on this web site are yellow bellied cowards, and yo Jim ah talkin to you, boy.

By Chazman

October 17, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

Markus,

The name is Chazman, but if you get your little kicks out of calling me Spazman, have at it. I think it’s kinda cute. Anyway, you said drive around ANYWHERE with FY on your car and see how far you get. That has absolutely nothing to do with what was on her car. Are you comparing Bushit with FY? Surely not, it’s not anywhere close. Do you think the cop was thinking about an offensive word when he wrote that ticket? I doubt it. I’d say we could guess which way he leaned politically. And you compare Harry Reid with Duke Cunningham? Good God man. And that poll you quoted - that only 25% of the voters will take into account the republican sandals - must have been on Fox news. You probably heard it from Dick Morris. Or Coulter. She probably quoted it when she said we are winning in Iraq. (Yes, she actually said that! We’ve lost 58 soldiers so far this month in the first 15 days) I would believe it if only 25% of Republican voters would take into account. But all voters? Not a chance.

By Chazman

October 17, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, I missed the chide. I didn’t think you were the death list type.

By Buy Danish

October 17, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Techie,

Please tell me that you are not a student at Georgia Tech.

Isn’t paragraph and thought formation a prerequisite to admission?

By GodHatesTrash

October 17, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

Wooten is right - a nation of mentally ill cowardly chickenhawks like TFTT, Markus, Danish and jbm will return the GOP to power, less than 10 seats at play in the House - House districts are drawn to protect white trash.

Remember, though, that no matter who wins in November, people like TFTT, Markus, Danish, and jbm will ALWAYS be losers.

Trash.

By techie

October 17, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

yo danish scumie, byte me!

By Van

October 17, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Van B*

Hey butt head, who do you think is over there in Iraq - wussy democrats, hardly, they would rather whine and cry like little girly men.

By Van

October 17, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

CC,

So what do we do with the corruption in Congress, vote out the democrats?

How about we outlaw lobbyists? Would that make Reid’s sons outlaws? I also have questions about Reid paying Christmas bonuses out of campaign funds - isn’t that a no-no.

By Know Your Congress!

October 17, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Pay attention, people. Did your Congressman vote for this? Did he fight for transportation money for your district? Call him and ask what he’s done for YOU lately! (Besides grow the deficit and debt.)

Alaska’s Gravina Island is home to 50 people and more than 350 Sitka black-tailed deer. Under the U.S. highway bill passed in August, this group will get a $223 million bridge taller than the Brooklyn Bridge in New York.

The funding is among $1.04 billion that Alaska lawmakers secured for transportation projects, making the state the envy of its neighbors in the U.S. Pacific Northwest. The states of Washington and Oregon, with a combined population 15 times that of Alaska’s 650,000, each received about $500 million sought by lawmakers for transportation projects in their home states under the bill signed by President George W. Bush on Aug. 10.

By Brian Curtis

October 17, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

Van: Actually, outlawing lobbyists is a great idea. I’m all for it! How would we implement such a plan?

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

October 17, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

Greetings, rednecks and decent folk, from the Stratosphere Hotel in Vegas. Heading home today, from a red state to a redder one. Trash rules here, and rules supreme there in Georgia. Jim is right, redneck rule will continue in November. November 7 is the day the losers win. But, when you look in the mirror on November 8th, the same stupid loser will be staring back at you.

By Van

October 17, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

I am sure Harry Reid has an idea or two.

Actually, I can not think of one legal way of doing that. We could try something like California did.

A while back the made some legal gun owners register certain style of weapon, a small semi-automatic rifle, then they turned around and deamed that weapon illegal and everyone had to turn theirs into the local law enforcement office.

We could force all lobbyists to register, then outlaw all registered lobbyists.

If you have any legal ideas, I am sure they would be torn apart on this blog, nothing intelligent survives here.

By jbmlaw

October 17, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

Dear Chazman @ 1:34, you pithily explain for all why I am not a threat to the memory of Lewis Grizzard.

By techie

October 17, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

Don’t get me wrong, ah want’s the neo-scumies to win in November. America deserves the poverty and dispair that will be here soon, sooner with more war, a little later with less war. Tell me, do any of you, uh, gentlemen imagine we can feed 300 x 10**6 people using horses and mules to plow the fields were those amber waves of beer grow? Without akmed’s oil, mules and horses are the only remaining power source for american farmers. We have remaining oil reserves in the ground that will last only four more years at current extraction rates. With imports, we can grow food for maybe four more years. After that with or without imports, its welcome to the 19th century. Ah prefer that you not believe me, cause you will suffer that much more for you ignorance.

By Chazman

October 17, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw - well taken. Of course, not many of us are a threat to his memory.

By Fulton

October 17, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

NEWS FLASH, JIM: This country’s political system has been dead for years and needs to be re-vamped from top to bottom. No matter what side one stands on; left, right or whatever, the whole process is one continuous joke, played daily on the American public and they continue to fall for it. Citizens are reduced to name-calling each other in order to justify their political position, meanwhile nothing gets done in the proper name of the people. Sadly, America has become a carcature of itself and needs to be gutted from the inside out!

By Common Ground

October 17, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Looking for common ground here.

Regardless of who wins next month, I’d be curious to know if everybody here supports implementing all recommendations in the 9/11 report? Or is that a left/right thing too?

If not, why not? Which recommendations would are you against and why?

By me

October 17, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

Welfare Queen Convert post:

For your information, most people that are on welfare are WHITE. Look it up you racist satirist. Look around your neighborhood and see how may black families work like you do every day.

By farley

October 17, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

yet

By time for the truth

October 17, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

Former Republican Congressman Mark Foley resigned in disgrace after revelations of his lewd computer messages to a former house page became public — and has been universally disavowed by the GOP.

But a Democratic congressman who actually had a homosexual affair with an underage House page and remained an honored figure within the party right up until his death Saturday is being praised as a “pioneer” for gay rights.

Former Massachusetts Congressman Gerry Studds was censured for his actions by the House in 1983 — but he never apologized — in fact defended the relationship — and was re-elected six times. Congressman Barney Frank said Studds gave people “the courage to be who they are.” Ted Kennedy said Studds “changed Massachusetts forever and we’ll never forget him.” And Congressman William Delahunt said “even now, his legacy is alive and well in the halls of Congress.”

See just what despicable depraved hypocrites the liberal vermin in Assachussetts are. The party of hate and REAL child molestors must be defeated next month.

watch maggot brain and other leftist filth on here say nothing about this!

By Curious Observer

October 17, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

While the neocons are worried about the House, they might take a look at what is happening in the latest polling for the key Senate seats:

Missouri Claire McCaskill (D) 48% Jim Talent-Incumbent (R) 45% SOURCE: Gallup 10/1

Montana Jon Tester (D) 47% Conrad Burns-Incumbent (R) 40% SOURCE: Mason-Dixon 9/28

New Jersey Bob Menendez-Incumbent (D) 49% Tom Kean Jr. (R) 45% SOURCE: Quinipiac 10/10

Ohio Sherrod Brown (D) 53% Mike Dewine-Incumbent (R) 41% SOURCE: Quinipiac 10/15

Pennsylvania Bob Casey (D) 46% Rick Santorum-Incumbent (R) 41% SOURCE: Muhlenberg 10/8

Bob Casey (D) 49% Rick Santorum-Incumbent (R) 40% SOURCE: Mason-Dixon 9/26

Bob Casey (D) 54% Rick Santorum-Incumbent (R) 40% SOURCE: Quinipiac 9/24

Rhode Island Sheldon Whitehouse (D) 50% Lincoln Chaffee-Incumbent (R) 39% SOURCE: Gallup 10/1

Tennesseee Harold Ford Jr. (D) 50% Bob Corker-Incumbent Seat (R) 45% SOURCE: Gallup 10/1

Virginia Jim Webb (D) 47% George Allen-Incumbent (R) 49% SOURCE Washington Post 10/12

Can you say Senate Majority Leader Reid?

By Buy Danish

October 17, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

Fulton,

Why such despair? Still looking for a place called Utopia?

Van,

Lobbying serves a purpose that is not inherently bad and certainly it is covered under the First Amendment. I believe that Campaign Finance Reform was disastrous legislation which only serves to further complicate the matter, as usually happens when well-meaning people attempt to take money out of politics through “reforms”.

What is needed is transparency. For example, when Riders are tacked on to Bills at the last minute the Legislator who added the Rider needs to be identified and he should be able to identify what motivated his decision.

We can then ask them why they approved spending tax payer dollars which benefit specific individuals, like say, Harry Reid. Voters can decide if they want this Representative to be re-elected or booted out for self-serving activities.

The Fair Tax would also help as it would eliminate lobbying that benefits or harms others based on tax law and social engineering.

By time for the truth

October 17, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

In a culture of school shootings and other violence on campus — a man in Utah thinks he has a partial solution. So while the State Education Association held its convention in Salt Lake City over the weekend —he offered public school employees a class to help them get a concealed weapons permit. Clark Aposhian told the Desert Morning News that he had about two dozen people sign up for the class.

While federal law prohibits weapons at schools — Utah law says schools cannot prevent people with concealed-weapons permits from packing heat.

at last some sensible news to protect kids in schools … long overdue!!

By me

October 17, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

9/11 Report

i think all changes should be implemented. We should have built up our protective infrastrucure first beofer going to IRAQ. Afghanistan was absolutely correct decision, but the rest has been a series of blunders an bully moves. Jim…you know its true. So talk about how bad the Dems would be but think back about 6 years ago, when your rates were lowere, gas was lower and we had friends in the world.

By m

October 17, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this

can’t wait till those cold november rains shower down on your parades. yes, i’m laughing at all you repuglies. this country has gone to hell because of the republicans YOU put in power and continue to put in power because you lack the strength to stand on your own two feet and think with your own brain. gosh i can’t wait!

By @@

October 17, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

Jim: “You Can’t Spell Doom for the GOP just yet.”

I’ll tell you why I agree.

Because there’s a lot of people like Me - Opposing - Opportunistic - Democrats.

According to a recent Pew Analysis, the Democrats are bringing more extreme left-wing liberals into their party, while independents are remaining consistent on issues important to them. Now independents aren’t thrilled with either party, but they can’t abide extreme left-wing liberals. They’ll be forced to choose.

The Democrats have turned their party around, and not in a favorable way. Too far left for the majority of reasonable Americans.

So here’s to you Jim for supporting faith in sound reasoning. Confidence in the American voter.

By Common Ground

October 17, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

What about it Buy Danish, time for the truth, Van, Curious Observer?

Do you guys want Congress to implement all recommendations of the 9/11 report regardless of who wins?

If so, are they important enough to make them an issue in 2008 if they’re not implemented before those campaigns?

Are the 9/11 recommendations common ground or a left/right thing?

By Van

October 17, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Lobbyist certainly have a place in politics, the real question is to what extent do we allow them in.

Answer me this, why is it so easy for lobbyists to spend someones money? Surely the money comes from some source. Do the “donors” get a deduction for funding lobbyists? Is it considered a business expense and a write off? Imagine being George Soros and being able to write off quite a few million dollars every two years.

Both parties have used the tax codes to make it harder to do things, why not this.

By JK

October 17, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

Hey Common Ground (may I call you CG?), I support the implementation of the 9/11 Commission’s recommendations! Always have. I don’t know if they’re a right-left thing, since the commission was bi-partisan. (I do note, however that Bush & Cheney were adamantly against it, and against testifying, but I’m sure they had good reasons.)

So anyway, why do you suppose they haven’t been implemented yet?

By Fulton

October 17, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

To Buy Danish. Not in despair (although perhaps we should be?) or looking for Utopia, just providing the facts. Don’t believe me? Just look at the name calling and number of idiotic responses on this blog. There ya go! Like simple minded children, most are content to just berate anyone harboring an idea that differs from their own.

By RW (the aboriginal)

October 17, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

After Hugo Chavez made a global laughing stock of W, and after Kim Jung-il beeyatch-slapped him, W is no longer fit to lead the greatest country in the world.

W is an embarrassment. He talks like an inbred red state bubba bite.

W needs to do the honorable thing here. The Japanese took responsibility for their wartime failures and did the honorable thing.

Now, if W is any man at all, he needs to do the honorable thing.

What? I mean resign, of course. I am embarrassed when I go abroad that W is my president, unelected, appointed by Diebold conspirators, and this country is in the hands of traitors.

I demand the resignation of W/Cheney, and Hastert. (effective noon tomorrow). Let the #4 in line run things for a while. IS the Fourth in line for president a Page?

Now that would be justice!!!!!

By Van

October 17, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

Common Ground

It would depend on how congress implements them.

Each item should be considered on its own merit. A lot of what they recommend is something that should remain classified and the relationship with the Saudi’s, that should remain within the executive branch as is all foreign relations.

If we made public all the terrorist threats and let congress prioritize them, what message would that send to those that would do us harm?

While a lot of the recommedations are high sounding, to implement them might harm the executives branch’s ability to deal with the other countries. It appears that Congress wants to be an active member of the State Department.

By Common Ground

October 17, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

JK,

I don’t know why they haven’t implement the 9/11 recommendations yet. No idea. But my impression is that most people support implementing all them. Maybe I’m wrong. They don’t seem to be an issue in this campaign.

RW (aboriginal), Fulton, Van, @@, Buy Danish? What do you say? For or against implementing all recommendations from the 9/11 report? If so, important enough for it to be an issue in the campaign? What about in 2008?

Common ground or a left/right thing?

By Van

October 17, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

JK,

“(I do note, however that Bush & Cheney were adamantly against it, and against testifying, but I’m sure they had good reasons.)”

While this is true, they did not show up and testify with their lawyers present, like Bubba Clinton did.

By Andie's Sailor

October 17, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

GOP Turdburglars Turning On Each Other

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

October 17, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

Bookman’s Iraq column is in the LV Sun today,,, no Wooten!

By JK

October 17, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

Van, they made a deal that there be no recording or record of their testimony, that they NOT be sworn under oath to tell the truth, and that Dick had to hold Georgie’s hand. I think that’s a better deal than a lawyer could have gotten them.

Hey Van, why do you suppose they refused to swear to tell the truth? Any theories? To my knowledge, no one else made that refusal. What do you think?

By getalife

October 17, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

Hannity is blaming you and your friends Van:

“On election night, when those results start coming in, if the media commentaries are smiling because Republicans are losing, if key senators and key congressmen, many of whom are conservative and have excellent records, go down in the defeat … let me tell you something, in the end you don’t have as far as I’m concerned the liberal media to blame. They will have played a part. But ultimately it’s you, yourself … you have to blame.”

Freaking brilliant!

Bwahahaha!

By Buy Danish

October 17, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

Common Ground,

I do not think that the recommendations of an unelected entity called the 9/11 Commission deserve carte blanche approval. As far as I’m concerned that commission was a farce, particularly in light of the fact that a Ms. Jamie Gorelick sat on it on the Dems side.

Van,

Lobbyists are hired by groups who have an interest in legislative outcomes. Some lobbying is done by non-profits, some by Corporations.

I don’t see how you can curtail their activities, other than strengthen rules about who can be hired and issues of Nepotism - that sort of thing.

I think it is overrated as an “evil” and we need to be very careful about proceeding down a slippery slope where the government decides too much.

I guarantee you that Nancy Pelosi is blowing smoke if she thinks she can stop Lobbying - if indeed she even wants to.

By RW (the aboriginal)

October 17, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

Cant spell doom for the GOP? How about Broom? Democrats Sweep in November!!!

By getalife

October 17, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

This is why Iraq is a disaster:

“Take Representative Terry Everett, a seven-term Alabama Republican who is vice chairman of the House intelligence subcommittee on technical and tactical intelligence.

“Do you know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite?” I asked him a few weeks ago.

Mr. Everett responded with a low chuckle. He thought for a moment: “One’s in one location, another’s in another location. No, to be honest with you, I don’t know. I thought it was differences in their religion, different families or something.”

To his credit, he asked me to explain the differences. I told him briefly about the schism that developed after the death of the Prophet Muhammad, and how Iraq and Iran are majority Shiite nations while the rest of the Muslim world is mostly Sunni. “Now that you’ve explained it to me,” he replied, “what occurs to me is that it makes what we’re doing over there extremely difficult, not only in Iraq but that whole area.”

This idiot isn’t some backbencher. He’s the vice chairman of the House intelligence subcommittee on technical and tactical intelligence”

Amazing.

By RW (the aboriginal)

October 17, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

Top Ten Items on the Sonny Do List:

1: Score a conjugal visit with Linda Schrenko.

By GWB

October 17, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

Help, Help Mister Bill King, Sonny’s purty pink panties have been found between the hedges, torn, and with ugly brown stains on the back! Oh, we fear the worst, another ravagin’ by a mutant hillbilly, just like last weekend! Oh, we warned the gov, told him not to go out, as them savages was about, but sonny had this gleam in his eye and a banjo on his knee, put on only his purty pink panties, again, just like last weekend. Help us, obi wan, we’se a feared sonny going homo on us! Ah sure hopes Mississippi State don’t have no mutant hillbillies, as Sonny seem to be developing some affection for the, ah, ravagin’

By Common Ground

October 17, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

Van,

Food for thought. I’m curious about which recommendations are high sounding, but would harm the executive branch’s ability to deal with foreign countries?

Buy Danish,

I’m not clear on why it’s relevent if the source of the recommendations are elected or unelected? Isn’t that the way the system works? Unelected people (citizens, commissions, CEOs, lobbyists, unions, citizens groups, etc.) write or visit their representatives with ideas and then each member of Congress decides whether to act on those ideas? So, can you tell me what elected vs. unelected have to do with it? Also, wasn’t this a bipartisan commission? Do you call it a farce because you don’t like one member out of several? Are there specific recommendations you don’t support, or do you hate them all because the woman you mentioned was on the panel?

By Markus

October 17, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

Spazman @ 1:32pm:

Anyway, you said drive around ANYWHERE with FY on your car and see how far you get. That has absolutely nothing to do with what was on her car. Are you comparing Bushit with FY? Surely not, it’s not anywhere close.

An offensive CUSS WORD is an offensive CUSS word, S, F, or Ahole. What part of that do you NOT understand?

Do you think the cop was thinking about an offensive word when he wrote that ticket? I doubt it. I’d say we could guess which way he leaned politically.

Doesn’t matter. She had an OFFENSIVE bumper sticker that VIOLATED locate law. That’s not the cop’s problem. Of course, being in Dekalb County, that cop must be one HELL of a minority if he’s a Republican.

And you compare Harry Reid with Duke Cunningham? Good God man.

No. Duke did things worse. However, Reid is getting away with what NO Republican can. The media is not investigating him, and he’s not even owning up to any wrongdoing, when he CLEARLY violated Senate rules. IN YOUR FACE! You people’s hypocrisy and double standards make me SICK.

And that poll you quoted - that only 25% of the voters will take into account the republican sandals - must have been on Fox news. You probably heard it from Dick Morris. Or Coulter.

I don’t even remember where I read it… shoulda bookmarked it. That said, even if it WAS FoxNews (it wasn’t), it means Republicans aren’t switching sides and voting Democrat or moderates using a few bad apples to sway them to the left like Democrats wish. We all know Democrats are voting Democrat, so what the hell else is new? In short, it just proves that the BS spam job the left and it’s lapdog media have done to Republicans (even if they have done a lot to themselves) isn’t STICKING. Too bad.

By RW (the aboriginal)

October 17, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

Wooten blogged: “Message to Republicans: Cultivate minorites or risk losing existing majorities”.

Anyone get the agricultural reference to our fruit pickers? Wooten’s good. He’s real good. But you know what? It aint enough to be tough. You gotta be durable too.

Most aint.

By Thoughtful

October 17, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Abuse of power is why cops get their heads blown off. Policing words on a bumper sticker is abuse of police power, and if the lady in question had poped a cap in piggies face, I for one would have found her innocent.

By Markus

October 17, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

Gas prices lowest in a year. What happened to all those SCREAMING HEADLINES about poor people starving to death, families not being able to afford vacations, old people left to die, etc. etc. What happened to all the DOOM AND GLOOM from the alleged non-biased media? OMG it was freaking PANDEMONIUM when gas shot up. Now that it’s down again, what do we hear from the horseass liberal media?

Chirp.. chirp.. chirp.. chirp.. chirp..

Nah, no media bias at all.

By GodHatesTrash

October 17, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

The GOP will win the Goobernatorial race in Georgia, fer sure. Pigman Sonny will be re-elected by the legions of low-rent trash that make up the GOP.

By Markus

October 17, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

Barak Obama has about the same chance becoming president at John Kerry. The liberal feel-good media needs to quit drooling in liberal Utopian la-la land and figure out who can REALLY get elected in 2008.

ABD: Anybody But Democrits

By getalife

October 17, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

“Bush can’t seem to grasp that Democrats fight for middle-income tax cuts.
This is in stark contrast to the Republican tax breaks for the super rich….”

Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi

By Markus

October 17, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry GHT-

Human waste like you will continue to hate your way out of mainstream America into your own social irrelevant oblivion.

By RW-(the original)

October 17, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this

Common Ground,

I notice in one of your pleadings for whatever you’re getting at you asked RW(the aboriginal) for an answer. To my knowledge that little stalker has never done any answering, if you meant me let me know. It’s a fair discussion that would require a few days of breaking it down to a few of their recommendations a day. If you tried to lay the whole list out at once I doubt you would get a very clean discussion out of it.

One of the problems the discussion would pose is that there are none of the recommendations that haven’t been acted on in some fashion. So it’s not as easy as just saying do them or don’t.

Just as an example out of thin air if I wanted a bill that say exempted my community from property taxes and somehow got a 50% reduction, there would be a lot of happy people and a lot of people that said only half the recommendation was enacted.

The 9/11 commission was a highly partisan group that has gone completely out of control and the Democrats are trying to put up a smokescreen about their recommendations. There is a reason why you hear Nancy Pelosi say she will implement them all and never names one of them.

By Van

October 17, 2006 06:10 PM | Link to this

Common Good,

1) The problems in the U.S.-Saudi relationship must be confronted,openly.

Second guessing the State Department

2) The U.S. government should offer to join with other nations in generously supporting a new International Youth Opportunity Fund.

and who is to control this? Congress?

3) The U.S. should counter the continued growth of Islamist terrorism by engaging other nations in developing a comprehensive coalition strategy against Islamist terrorism.

Tie our defense to the UN or a coalition? Appeasement has never worked and this sound like it - If the US does partner with other countries, it is the executie branch that would decide this and its make up, not congress.

Over all, if congress implemented this, there would be a separation of powers fight.

In addition another recommendation is -

The overall amounts of money being appropriated for national intelligence and to its component agencies should no longer be kept secret.

Get real on this, a public debate on the funding of the intelligence agencies

By Markus

October 17, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

Hey thoughtless @5:45:

Abuse of power is why cops get their heads blown off. Policing words on a bumper sticker is abuse of police power, and if the lady in question had poped a cap in piggies face, I for one would have found her innocent.”

And I can’t tell you how joyous I feel every time a cop wastes one of your punkass dirtback crackhead carjacking friends. Headshots are worthy of opening a nice cabernet.

By Markus

October 17, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

gimolife-

If you pay “progressively” towards income taxes, then you get back “progressively” what you paid. It’s the TRUE American way, you good little Leninist.

By ghost rider

October 18, 2006 08:15 AM | Link to this

Bush’s favorable rating 37%! How can that be I ask myself…This guy is a total disaster. Then I read the Wooten blogs, and wa-lah everthing is perfectly clear all 37% of Bush’s worshippers hang out here.

By anit----Markus

October 18, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

Markus,

I sure hope that you are talking about real criminals and not using codes for what you think about someone’s race. becasue the insuation that crackheads and carjackers are all black is down right racist. You are the reason why minorties will take over this country and you will be the minority. Both black and whites are tired of vitriolic hate spewn all over. Repubs will lose and its because they have manged the country poorly. they have total control of 3 branches of govt yet, we are in a war that has gone on longer than World War 2. Debt is higher than any other time in our hisotry excpet during 43’s 1st term. Get a clue Markus….noone wants to keep losing friends in the world and have the USA become so isolated internally and externally. Get a clue! Dems will get this country back on track becasue we listen to those who know best…Military, not some cranky old fart who thinks he is some highly regarded intellect.

By kick a dog a day

October 18, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

Markus is a brown shirted, pink pantied fascist coward, like all right wing bigots. He prefers to use the state’s police powers to impose his own religious and political views on his fellow americans, and if they resist than give them a “head shot.” Markus - come the revolution, you will not need to fear a “head shot” as you cower in your hole in the ground. Without the support of modern society, your inability to provide for your own daily needs will doom you to a far longer and more painful death. No food, dirty water, no sanitation facilites - Gee you will be living just like those African savages you put down so often. Except those Africans are far more successful in providing for their own daily needs than the average fat, lazy, and stupid american.

By Eat this Markus and Van

October 18, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

Wooten is an idiot, hence the nick name of if-i-only-had-a-brain, imho. His competition at the ajc is so weak, he is able to keep his job as mouth-piece for the right wing bigots. Fear not, revenge is just around the corner. The neo-scum plan to attack Iran on or shortly after October 21, 2006. Iran will take heavy loses, but they will fight back, and the cheap oil uncle stupid has been stealing from the arab peoples will stop flowing. The fake american economy is underpinned by the printing of 1 trillion new dollars per year, and the dollar is underpinned by arab oil. All that changes when the oil stops flowing. The dollar will go to zero on foreign exchange markets, imports will drop to zero, our oil stocks will plung daily, and it will be back to the 19th century for america. The Fat-ASSet repukes will see their jobs disappear and their savings become worthless, just like the Germans of 1923. Adolf Von Bush and his neo-scum pals will take america from democracy to AmeriKa the facist. ‘course, bushie and pals may wear brown shirts, and talk all tough, but underneath, they all wear pink panties, and are chicken-s** cowards

The brutality of the neo-scums like that idiot Markus is in direct proportion to their under lying cowardlyness. Rummy, Wolfie, Libbie, Markus and Chaney would not last five minutes under the kinds of torture they have ordered inflicted on their Arab prisioners. Their pink panties would quickly fill with the brown truth of their own cowardlyness, and yellow ribbons of surrender would stain the purty pink fronts of their lace covered panties.

By yellow ribbons of surrender would stain the purty pink fronts of their lace covered panties.

October 18, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

Child molesting neo-sum congressman gets his jollies molesting male children, fellow neo-scum congressmen cover up for years, then want to investigate “who leaked this to the press.” Yellow ribbons of surrender staining the purty pink fronts of their lace covered panties, the neo-scum house leadership calls on the FBI to investigate the leak of this “highly classified information, that could damage our national security.”

By Markus

October 18, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Best p** of the year, my little multiple-ID Stalinist pig FREAK!!!! Thanks!!!!

By Markus

October 18, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

One more thing you little Leninist multiple-ID pig-

I don’t LIKE you or your ilk. You can say whatever you want to me and it won’t break the surface. You and your ilk mean nothing to me and are DEAD to me already.

By Donald

October 18, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this

To all my conservative friends, read John Dean’s ‘Conservatives without conscience’, you may find that your eyes are suddenly opened. Or at the very least you will know they are closed. (P.S. John Dean is a conservative)

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