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DEL.ICIO.USBabs, Darfur, North Korea, runaway bride
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thinking Right’s free-for-all Friday. Pick a topic:
• Tolerant, these liberals. Imagine my shock, then, when Babs dropped the f-word on a member of the audience protesting her anti-Bush politicking during the New York stop on her latest farewell tour. Streisand reaches Atlanta on Nov. 2. Tickets are priced at up to $752. A liberal with that kind of money would have to have an inheritance, a government consulting contract or a love relationship with a free-enterprise conservative.
• Another instance where government should rely on faith-based organizations: rehab housing. Atlanta’s grossly mismanaged program spent $5 million in federal taxpayers’ money over five years with little to show for it. Such programs, if they are to exist, need somebody who cares representing the elderly poor — and the poor taxpayer whose money is being frittered away.
• Republicans are thought hypocrites because they preach morality and an occasional Mark Foley fails. Democrats aren’t, presumably because they don’t.
• Marvelous advice from, of all places, a San Francisco-based state appeals court. It upheld California’s ban on same-sex unions and warned judges to avoid the temptation to impose an outcome, leaving the matter to voters and legislators. Maybe the national campaign against judicial activism is beginning to sink in.
• There ought to be a constitutional amendment prohibiting settlements of suits filed against taxpayers until terms are approved by the body charged with levying the taxes any proposed settlement would require. In the case of a lawsuit rolling around the country that would force states to funnel more money to some local systems, that would be the Georgia General Assembly. The lawsuit is an attempt to use the courts to decide an issue that should be left to voters and their legislators. A settlement is hinted.
• Either I’m insensitive or my friends are. Gasper the Georgia Aquarium whale’s health has never come up once in any of our conversations.
• The runaway bride, who filed suit against her former beau for a share of the money paid for their story, is 18 minutes into her 15 minutes of fame.
• Darfur is a reason to have the United Nations. The United States has no strategic interest there. It has its hands full militarily elsewhere. The African Union and the United Nations are the powers to look to for troops and for solutions. We are not the world’s policeman.
• North Korean nukes? See above. One-on-one talks, as Condi Rice noted, have been tried. Didn’t work. The world that’s threatened should lead the search for a solution. Our obligation is to make certain our allies, Japan and South Korea, aren’t left defenseless. But that is a parallel concern.
• The mixed emotions of a conservative: U.S. District Court Judge Marvin Shoob comes uncomfortably close to being the bureaucrat-in-charge of the Fulton County Jail. But the people’s elected agent does appear to be incapable of doing the job himself. There has to be a third way — and the General Assembly should provide it. Either give the job to the County Commission or to a specially created unit of the State Department of Corrections that would manage the facility until the next sheriff’s election.
• When labor unions that support Democrats endorse nonpartisan judicial candidates, as the state AFL-CIO and the National Education Association have done with incumbent Supreme Court Justice Carol Hunstein, you’ve got to conclude that she’s the Democrat and her challenger, Mike Wiggins, is the Republican.
• The Bush administration was accused of failing to plan for the aftermath of victory over Saddam Hussein. Surely nobody will now criticize contingency plans to retain forces in Iraq through 2010. May not be necessary, but enemies size us up on the basis of our history in Vietnam and Somalia. Squeeze us and we’ll run. Throw in domestic political debate over timetables for withdrawal, which can be misinterpreted as evidence that our national will is brittle, and the 2010 planning is a vital, balancing message.
• Three years ahead of schedule, the president’s promise to cut the budget deficit in half is fulfilled. Frightening. Get the books in shape and voters might think it’s safe to return the more proficient big spenders to office.
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By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this
Republicans are thought hypocrites because they preach morality and an occasional Mark Foley fails. Democrats aren’t, presumably because they don’t.
What you fail to understand is that the reason a lot of americans are upset about republican hypocrisy is akin to a lot of catholics being upset about the molesting priest controversy. It’s called a betrayal of trust. Republicans came out with this high road and we’re better than this and that mentality; just to find out that (gasp!), they’re no better than anyone else.
By Proud Social Engineer
October 13, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this
“A liberal with that kind of money would have to have an inheritance, a government consulting contract or a love relationship with a free-enterprise conservative.”
Or perhaps we’re just more successful at playing the stock market than Republicans?
http://www.slate.com/id/2151355/?nav=tap3
By candide
October 13, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this
Wooten minimizes the importance of the Runaway Bride story. It is very important as symptomatic of the malaise of the South. Here is a church-goer afianced to another church-goer, written up with typical Southern syrup. Her wedding and her family, his family and all of them — wonderful examples of Christian southern life. And it is all phoney.
Of course it is phoney. Christianity is phoney, the South is phoney, all social conservatives are phonies.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this
When labor unions that support Democrats endorse nonpartisan judicial candidates, as the state AFL-CIO and the National Education Association have done with incumbent Supreme Court Justice Carol Hunstein, you’ve got to conclude that she’s the Democrat and her challenger, Mike Wiggins, is the Republican
The courts are supposed to uphold the current laws in place. Maybe what you can conclude is that Hunstein will uphold the current laws, and Wiggins will try to rewrite them to support whatever views that are more advantangeous for him and his cronies, (think Katherine Harris — Florida)
Three years ahead of schedule, the president’s promise to cut the budget deficit in half is fulfilled
Who put us in debt in the first place? Duh!!
By Captain Freedom
October 13, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this
The Captain is proud to stand with Jim in his bold positions regarding that stupid whale and the runaway trollop. Kudos, Jim, for the brave stance.
By Michelle
October 13, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this
“Darfur is a reason to have the United Nations. The United States has no strategic interest there. It has its hands full militarily elsewhere. The African Union and the United Nations are the powers to look to for troops and for solutions. We are not the world’s policeman”
This Wooten guy makes me sick saying things like this. All of the sudden we’re not the World’s policemen? What the hell have our troops been doing in Iraq for the past 3 years? Conservatives like Wooten could obviously care less about torture and genocide, and they have the nerve to preach about “morality?”
By Proud Social Engineer
October 13, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this
“Surely nobody will now criticize contingency plans to retain forces in Iraq through 2010.”
Yeah, a 7+ year commitment for a supposedly self-financing war where we would be greeted as liberators. I see nothing to criticize there.
“Three years ahead of schedule, the president’s promise to cut the budget deficit in half is fulfilled. Frightening. Get the books in shape and voters might think it’s safe to return the more proficient big spenders to office.”
I think instead of running my AmEx balance by another $2000 next month, I’ll only run it up by $1000. Apparently that constitutes having the books in shape and I won’t need to worry anymore. Thanks for the helpful accounting advice!
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this
The Bush administration was accused of failing to plan for the aftermath of victory over Saddam Hussein. Surely nobody will now criticize contingency plans to retain forces in Iraq through 2010
Here’s a thought, how about putting ENOUGH TROOPS in at one time to take care of all the insurgents. How about putting someone in charge who will actually LISTEN to their field officers on site, (the real soldiers), and stop pretending they know anything about military strategy.
The African Union and the United Nations are the powers to look to for troops and for solutions. We are not the world’s policeman.
Boy, what a change!!!
By CDog
October 13, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this
On judicial candidates: I agree. We should stop pretending that judges’ political beliefs and ideologies do not influence their decisions. They are not mindless, emotionless, opinionless robots without axes to grind. What they believe about the role of the judicial branch matters. How they generally interpret the state or the US Constitution or any law in general matters. I want to know: Are they original intenters? Do they believe in an “evolving constitution”? Do they go by the strict, explicit text of the law or do they look for “penumbras” and other hidden meanings? The voting public has a right to know what a judge believes. Politicizing the judicial process? I don’t think so. Judges have already done a wonderful job of this by half a century of bypassing the amendment process through judicial fiat. Judges who praactice judicial activism have been politicizing the judicial process long before now. They started it. Now, we the people, will finish it.
By Jim's a Distractor
October 13, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this
Morning Jim,
How about a column on this…12 years on. Where are we with these goals? Has the GOP started on them yet?
REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA
As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.
That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.
This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.
Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.
On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:
FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress; SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse; THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third; FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs; FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee; SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public; SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase; EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this
Tolerant, these liberals. Imagine my shock, then, when Babs dropped the f-word on a member of the audience protesting her anti-Bush politicking during the New York stop on her latest farewell tour
If we’re lucky, maybe someone will drop the f-word on you.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this
They started it. Now, we the people, will finish it.
Huh?
By Willx
October 13, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this
The Big Difference, Jim, in the Republican morality show and the Democrats is that the Republicans want to tell everyone what to do in their private lives, e.g. Terry Schaivo. Democrats are willing to “trust the American people” even though Bush says that but does not mean it.
By Uncle Remus
October 13, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this
Candide, I have to admit it: you’re no phony.
You are a genuine, 100 percent jacka$$.
Congratulations.
By Jim's a Distractor
October 13, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this
Is this the liberal bile that I’m always hearing about…the leftist agenda of the AJC? Is this what they’re always talking about on AM Radio?
Jim, if only you could be objective sometimes instead of just towing the line at all costs.
Sen. Reid should look in mirror first
Published on: 10/13/06
Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks or crying “cover-up” over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with former Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) and his sexually explicit e-mails to congressional pages. Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade against the misdeeds of others.
Currently, he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had been owed by Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate documents that he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the Associated Press, which first reported the transaction details.
Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement.
Two months ago, the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice — before he was successful — to get a utility right-of-way moved from the proposed development site onto public land.
The first effort stalled because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, it was determined the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million.
Then there are the free boxing tickets Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission; Reid favored one.
Only after the Associated Press reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did the senator decide he would no longer accept such gifts.
Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.
By sct
October 13, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this
What is Republican morality?
Shock and Awe? Tom Delay? Newt Gingrich? Linda Schrenko? Ann Coulter, James Dobson? Mark Foley? Duke Cunningham? Jack Abramoff? Ralph Reed?, Enron, Rush Limbaugh? Pat Robertson?
By Realist
October 13, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this
The IP address blocking has to come soon Jim. This blog has gone straight to hell. I used to look forward to MSP and JBM and rarringt’s level headed well thought out comments. Now from the very beginning each morning its just garbage.
Debbie, Jims a Distractor, et.al, GET A LIFE AND GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!!!
By Mid-South Philosopher
October 13, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
With respect to school financing, we have a decision to make in this state and in all the other 48 (Hawaii has already made it). In the post-modern world of globalization and world-wide competition among students, will we maintain the foolishness of “local control” or will we embrace the state constitutional notion that providing a free public education is the responsibility of the state? Until we do the latter and resources are distributed equally, there will continue to be inequity in schools.
With respect to the morals of Republicans and Democrats, the unfortunate thing is that both groups are composed of politicians…and the term “honest politician” makes about as much sense as the term “compassionate spouse abuser.”
With respect to the “Runaway Bride,” rarely has so much been written about such a rash representative of the ridiculous!
By Republicans Have Gotta Go
October 13, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this
Wooten: “Another instance where government should rely on faith-based organizations: rehab housing. Atlanta’s grossly mismanaged program spent $5 million in federal taxpayers’ money over five years with little to show for it…”
Did Woot say federal money? Who’s responsible for making sure this money is spent as intended? The federal government. Who runs the federal government? Republicans.
If true, this is another example of the mismanagement that we’ve already seen in Iraq, Afghanistan, New Orleans, Washington (Foley) and now Atlanta at with news reports of mismanagement by the Bush appointee at the Centers for Disease Control.
These guys couldn’t run a lemonade stand.
By getalife
October 13, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this
No wonder Roves calls Jim “the nuts”.
Republicans are thought hypocrites because they preach morality and an occasional Mark Foley fails. Democrats aren’t, presumably because they don’t.
They did nothing, then lied. It is the way they govern but “Jimnut” fails to print this fact.
Intellectually Dishonest
By Captain Freedom
October 13, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this
The Captain wishes to note that, not only did pious Harry Reid accept boxing tickets from a group that wished to influence him, he then cruelly voted against those peoples’ wishes in the legislation at hand.
Indeed, what could be worse than taking a bribe? Why, by double-crossing the people who bribed you in the first place. Good Republicans like Ralph Reed and Jack Abramoff know that when you take the cash, you gotta dance the tune. Unpredictable peopel who refuse to be bought, like Holy Harry, cause confusion and slow the wheels of the lobbyist-ruling party juggernaut.
This is simply anti-American.
By getalife
October 13, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this
Realfake,
Whhhaaaa!
The IP address blocking has to come soon Jim.
Whhaaaaaaaaa!
Run home to mommy coward.
By Teddy Stevens
October 13, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this
I don’t know nothing about Bush being able to run a lemonade stand, but if that Lemonade stand is in Alaska we’ll build a bridge to it so those 9 people can get to it.
By Realist
October 13, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this
getalife, Seriously, are you home in a wheelchair with a big old grapefruit sized tumor on your brain or what? Do you seriously have nothing better to do in life than repeat the same old sheeot in here day after day after day? It has to get old doesnt it? Dont you ever watch tv or play video games or soemthing else to pass the time besides being a blog troll and typing the same thing over and over? You do realize you arent doing anyone any service or making a difference whatsoever dont you?
You should find something else to do because you suck at this. You arent clever. You arent funny. You arnet intelligent. You have no quality that makes you of use here. So why do you keep coming? I just dont get it. Its really quite sad.
By getalife
October 13, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this
So this is the report w has been waiting for on Iraq
Maybe he will listen,this time but think he will call it cut and run.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this
Debbie, Jims a Distractor, et.al, GET A LIFE AND GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!!!
Real: this is supposed to be fun and mindless entertainment. hint, hint.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this
What is Republican morality?
An oxymoron
By Realist
October 13, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
Debbie, You have the mindless part nailed. We are still waiting on the fun and entertainment aspect. So far, its just mindless inane diarrhea of the keyboard.
By Brian Curtis
October 13, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
This is a nice collection of inconsistency, cheap shots, and outright stupidity. In other words, a typical Wooten Friday assortment (available at fine drugstores near you).
“We’re not the world’s police” was especially hilarious, as was the blithe statement that liberals must be poor (no, but there’s no reason for poor people to be conservatives) and that Republicans being called on their hypocrisy is supposed to reflect badly on Democrats.
That’s some might fine bull-spewin’ there, Tex.
By peter
October 13, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
Jim today is lost in space….ha ha ha……..someday he might really have something of some importance to say!
Poor Republicans, with all their morals, the rest of the world thinks they are hypocrits, gee probably most Americans do as well!
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
Debbie, You have the mindless part nailed. We are still waiting on the fun and entertainment aspect. So far, its just mindless inane diarrhea of the keyboard
Wow! We think alike!! I thought your posts were bullsh#t too!
By getalife
October 13, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
Realfake,
I do not give a damn what you think. You are a whiny nut and it is fun watching you melt down.
I like voicing my opinion on many blogs before your party takes away that freedom.
Deal with it or get lost.
By Brian Curtis
October 13, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this
Realist: Let me get this straight… you’re asking GETALIFE if HE has nothing better to do that post the same repetitive drivel on a blog day after day after day?
May I introduce you to someone you’ve obviously overlooked: He goes by several names (originally Andy), but his favorites of late are “Time for the Truth” and “The AJC Censors Conservatives.”
You may see his visage on posters warning of Blog Addiction Disorder and Logorrhea fundraising campaigns. And getalife is the one you’re worried about? Yikes.
By sct
October 13, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this
Republican morality…..”had I known then what I know now, I would not have undertaken that work”
By Realist
October 13, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this
TFTT is quite funny, obviously intelligent, and sometimes extremely genuinely insightful. Getalife is none of these. He has no redeeming quality whatsover. Just cut and paste cut and paste cut and paste. Macaca Macaca Macaca blah blah blah. He is like a mindless parrot saying the same thing day in day out. I wish somebody would take the annoying parrot getalifes cage down into a CO filled mining shaft a few thousand feet!!!
And btw, thats why I wish Jim would get an IP filtering program where the multi-ID folks would be filtered out through a registration process….
By Watta Load
October 13, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this
Ah…finally..thank you Jim.
Your last few days of blog subjects have just been plain sleepers…but today’s column really makes me proud of my chosen blogger name…tis truly a “load”.
I anticipate the mindless sparring today will be especially entertaining…again, I truly thank you for the stimulation.
By Jim's a Distractor
October 13, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
Realist,
How about that Contract With America? Is that not level-headed prose?
And today’s AJC editorial calling out Harry Reid…not level headed?
Neither Jim nor yourself can handle truth that is inconvenient. Must change topic…must make fun of people & call them names.
“Look! A baby wolf!”
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
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By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 13, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this
Greetings from the desert. The Pope did well in his very first ever Texas Hold ‘Em tournament yesterday - making the final table and ending in the money. The best thing? There were no Texans anywhere to be seen at the final table.
Yours truly was the only red stater there… Bwahahahaha.
Red stater by residence - Yankee by the Grace of Gawd!
Maybe later folks.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this
Republican Morality…….
Is that the same as a little pregnant?
By getalife
October 13, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this
realpos,
You and time’s threats would get you banned first idiot.
Cut and run from this blog, you are embarrasing yourself.
By Dana
October 13, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this
Wow. You folks are incredible today! I never, EVER thought I would actually come out in defense of Realist. But here I am!
This is a great opportunity to debate topics. I think too many of you watched the governor and the wannabe’s last night. How about some genuine, thoughtful, opinion instead of invective?
By ajc classifieds
October 13, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this
FOR SALE
1994 Light Water Nuclear Reactor for Sale to good rogue nation. Good shape. Hardly used. Includes instructions. Ask for Bill or Madeleine.
By Dusty
October 13, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this
So many subjects, so little time.
DebbieDoRight done dabbled in the DNC directory double time.
Candide is as genuine as a two dollar bill.
Captain Freedom has wiped the smile off Gaspar’s face. Mean ol’ Capt.Liberal.
Jims-a-Distracttor thinks that Harry Reid has an ethics meter. Harry Reid? THE Harry Reid? An ethics meter? That does NOT compute.
Darfur, oh Darfur!! Just another genocide. Are we getting accustomed to genocide? Seems like we hear of them now without a turn of heart. I don’t know the answer. Even the world’s relief agencies can’t make a dent in the terrible death toll. Nothing seems to work. Nothing.0000000
By Van
October 13, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
Funny, at least we do try to have some morals, if only the democrats would try also.
By Watta Load
October 13, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
Realist,
Getalife is no more or less insightful than TFTT…you only think that because you are on the same philosophical side as Truth…but if TFTT was taking a liberal point of view, you would insult him also.
As far as Jim filtering his blog, you need to remember that the blog, the servers, and all of the technology that Jim uses all belong to the AJC…not Jim, so as long as the folks at the AJC don’t care, you are just going to have to put up with the posts that you dont’ like…or you could go work sometimes like the rest of us do…I still don’t see how you run a company by blogging here all day.
By JK
October 13, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
Jim’s Distractor, Can you please post the “Republican Contract with America” AGAIN? I want to read it slowly, to see why it upsets Republicans when you post their OWN promises on this here “Conservative” blog. I don’t think I’d ever read it before, not being one to trust any “contract” that isn’t signed and in my possession. Looks like I was right, since none of their contracted promises have been delivered.
OH, I’m sorry. Was I not supposed to point that out three weeks before the election? Sorry.
By Southern Democrat
October 13, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this
Good morning all and here’s to everyone having a good weekend!
I disagree with Jim’s comments regarding the Sudan and North Korea. I think we all have a moral responsibility in Darfur. In a purely political context, too, wouldn’t we curry favor with moderate Muslims by rescuing those who are being murdered? The African Union has neither the money nor the support to contain the situation and their mandate runs out soon. We MUST step in.
Regarding North Korea, the UN (with U.S. leadership) created this situation in the 50s and I do not think we will have strong anti-North leadership from our new Secretary-General for obvious reasons.
Last, maybe I’m viewing the world through a different lens, but I (and everyone else I’ve talked to, conservatives and liberals alike) took the Army’s announcement of the 2010 plan not as a sign of planning, but a signal to the Administration that it must develop a better strategy NOW.
I think this 2010 plan coupled with the Baker study will give the President the wiggle room he needs to begin the phase out from Iraq without appearing to cave in to Democratic pressure. I think it will be cathartic for us all.
By Realist
October 13, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this
And today’s AJC editorial calling out Harry Reid…not level headed?
I don’t think the AJC “called out” Harry Pinkie Reid. I’m quite sure someone else broke that story days ago. Regarding the story, yeah, he tried to save himself some money. I do it. They do it. All men do it. Certainly all politicians do it. The GOP sometimes doesnt even try to hide it. The difference is Im not a hypocrit about it like the dems are. Big fat ridiculous shameless hypocrits.
By Van
October 13, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
Jim Wooten -
Babs tickets are priced at up to $752.
A liberal with that kind of money would have to have an inheritance, a government consulting contract or a love relationship with a free-enterprise conservative.
Just goes to prove that old saying about a fool and their money.
By candide
October 13, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this
Yes, I am as genuine as a $2. bill. I keep $2. bills in my wallet as a remembrance of Tom Jefferson, the likes of which we have never seen since. Bush could be on the $7.55 bill.
A moral Republican? Like a barbecue loving Muslim.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 13, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this
Where’s the rest of the Order of the Yellow Stripe, realisp? You’re the only one here today - where are the other loudmouthed cowards - Andi/e, Markanus, tftt/tommy, etc.?
Is Foley in town?
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this
Funny, at least we do try to have some morals…
Yes, but they are always for sale. Cheap too.
By Dana
October 13, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this
Now - on topic -
I couldn’t care less what Babs or any other entertainer thinks.
I’d love to think that faith based organizations would do a good job managing low income housing, but I doubt it.
Republicans are not thought hypocrits, they are hypocrits.
NO ONE cares about the runaway bride.
Now, here is where I really am having an issue. North Korea is threatening to launch a nuclear weapon at us if Bush won’t sit down for face to face discussions. Admittedly - we don’t know that they actually can. But they are claiming it. And this isn’t something we should address? Oh, but we SHOULD address Iraq? I’m a bit boggled by that one.
By abc
October 13, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this
Open proxies all across the Internet would defeat IP blocking. It’s the Internet, and people are just like that. Skip their posts.
I think that as time goes on and events unfold as they have the past few years, by and large most Americans aren’t that far apart in their views on any given political topic. Politicians and pundits try to make it seem so, but their goal isn’t policy, it’s power and greed. I read a very interesting speech about it recently by Ron Paul, R-TX.
By Andy
October 13, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this
It appears that Babs has a contingency plan to maintain her Farewell Tour through the year 2010.
The beluga whales reminds me that I have trouble sleeping, unless it’s with the fishes. I start yawning the moment I walk into the Georgia Aquarium. It’s so peaceful to sleep with the fishes……what am I saying? But I kid Tony Soprano….
The marriage that produced the Runaway bride is the marriage that should have gotten banned by the San Fransisco Court of Appeals.
Mark Foley whole heartedly supports the ban on gay marriage, and it’s a good thing, just how much page-support can a man afford anyway?
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this
What?! Thoughtful, genuine opinions on a BLOG?!? Didn’t we have enough of that last night at the Governor Debates……?
By Realist
October 13, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
JK, You are correct in you assesment of the Contract with America. They have failed to deliver on some promises. I have to remind you that this administration is not charting new territory here. Politicians, especially Presidents are known throughout history for failure to keep campaign promises. For you to not admit this is dishonest on your part because we all know it and can easily point you to those broken promises. Its common practice from both parties. Its not right mind you , but it is common.
What Im most interested in JK is the upcoming election. Im really beginning to think I could lean more toward the left and consider voting a candidate from the democratic party, so long as I find commonality and trust with the person and his or her views. Can you shed some light on who some of those candidates may be and what platform and stances they will be running on? I cant seem to find any information on anyone from the left who has any new ideas or seems to be capable of doing any better than the current administration. Anyone can throw cold water and criticize, Im looking for new ideas and something better. Can you point us in the direction of who that might be?
Thanks, Big R
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight done dabbled in the DNC directory double time.
Debbie Done Dished Dat republican Dung pile back at them. Dem Dang republicans Darn sure hate Dat!
(i tried to get as many d’s in there as I could, you were much better at it!)
By Realist
October 13, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this
No pope, your MOM is in town.
By Andy
October 13, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
Man oh manachevitz!! The right is just itching to go Off Topic and start “myspacing” it. Remember what confucious say: “Man who comment with itchy fingers end up with smelly blog”.
You know, Confucious was an itch-cream salesmen, and his one liner slogan about waking up with smelly fingers sold more itch-cream than anyone else in history. (True).
I live my life by Confucious and his cautionary advice. I think you should too.
By JK
October 13, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this
Babs tickets are priced at up to $752. A liberal with that kind of money….
Uh-huh. Tickets to hear the president stump for a congressman cost twice that, don’t they? And he doesn’t even SING!! No mention of how these Big Repub donors got THEIR money, huh? (Y’all are sooooooooo borrrrring.) Somehow I KNEW Mr. Wooten would make space on his page to bash Babs today. Funny, by telling her interrupting heckler to get lost, she was trying to give all the others who paid for tickets their money’s worth. What a concept! (Please continue your pointless whining now.)
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this
Politicians, especially Presidents are known throughout history for failure to keep campaign promises. For you to not admit this is dishonest on your part
What a strange world we live in. It’s dishonest on the bloggers part to think that the president, his cabinet, congress and the senate should practice what they preach; but not dishonest for the politicians to do so. Strange.
By Th
October 13, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this
If JW doesn’t know any rich liberals who earned their money in private business, he needs to get out more. I wouldn’t spend $7.52 to hear Babs sing; my parents might. The only ticket I will spend that kind of money on is an airline ticket.
Morality for a Republican is about sex and abortion. Morality for a Democrat is about all those things Jesus talked about.
North Korean talks worked better than not talking. The fuel rods were still locked up with video cameras and inspectors until Bush pulled out of negotiations. Rice is just one of many in this administration who are completely out of their league. For a good recap of the nuclear progam in NK, this one from Globalsecurity.org is a quick overview. To see what happened during the Clinton administration and the early Bush administration, this Washington Monthly article quotes the people actually involved in the process. For a truly frightening look at how bad it can get and how limited our options, this Atlantic article explores what happens when North Korea collapses.
Spending increased by over 7% last year. Maybe you can explain how the tax revenues increased 11% when economic growth was 4%. I can hazard a guess. It has to do with who got all the growth.
By Van
October 13, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this
Southern Democrat,
Yep, another Democrat would not let McArthur do what was need back in the 50’s.
I guess Truman was not connecting the dots back then when he would not let McArthur nuke the chinese streaming over the North Korean border.
We could have saved ourselves a lot of trouble if he had allowed that scenario.
Of, course the UN would have allowed that - yeah, right.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this
For Sale:
One slightly used Moral Majority pin. Used only during the last 8 years and only during elections.
Good for: Scaring masses away from the real problems and challenges that are facing America; and pointing out that gay marriage, Michael Schiavo, and questioning the government is bad, evil and unAmerican. Works like a charm!!!
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this
Real: Maybe you can explain how gas prices miraculously became lower in an election year, when in the previous year, (and half of this year), they were peaking here in Ga. at the $3.35 per gallon rate.
Do you think the words “election year” had anything to do with it?
By Realist
October 13, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this
Debbie, I think your time might be better spent by brushing up on your reading comprehension.
My point was that to blame republicans or showcase the GOP for having not lived up to all thier campaign promises and not admit that this is common practice by BOTH parties is dishonest.
Like I said earlier, Bush is done. He cant be re-elected. So we all patiently await the candidates from the left, who will obviously have no skeletons or issues from thier past, and have great new ground breaking ideas of how to run the country. We cant wait to see who steps up.
By abc
October 13, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this
Realist, I think there are a lot of Republicans that are considering voting for Democratic candidates. It’s become obvious that the Republicans currently in office are primarily concerned with having and keeping power, motivated by greed. Thing is, nobody really thinks that the current Democrats are that much different in that regard, and I think they’re probably right.
Nonetheless, that was what was most interesting to me about Mr. Paul’s speech linked earlier.
By Andy
October 13, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this
I’ll tell you what Wooten needs to ban: Links. Why? Links contain viruses. I learned the hard way to NEVER click on a link.
There’s a new virus going round that eats the pixels on your LCD widescreen flat panel.
Let me be clear: It is my policy to regard any virus launched from Wooten’s blog against my widescreen as an attack by the blogger on me requiring a full retaliatory response upon that blogger.
Blog not what your virus can do to me, but rather what my virus can do to you!
The troll has been passed to a new generation of viruses…….
Ich bin ein Blogginer!
By Barbara
October 13, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this
Amen to Uncle Remus @8:46! And Amen to Realist! Keep ‘em going buddy.
As to the topics:
I thought Barbra “losing it” was pretty funny, but she, as well as the other yellow dog libs, are never going to see or admit to the hypocracy in her actions.
Faith-based charities are the way to go. They don’t have any of the red tape holding them back.
The runaway bride should be put in front of a firing squad of Mexican men. Of course they probably would treat her more respectfully than she’s treated them, or the rest of us, who have had to see her ugly, bug-eyed mugg way too many times.
I don’t really understand your point about the labor unions supporting a bipartisan candidate. I generally have absolutely no respect for labor unions - I think they’ve outlived their usefullness. But - I’d like to learn more about the topic you mention.
Dana, I’m going to git you girl!!!! Conservatives are not hypocrits! We need to do lunch sometime, since we both work in Buckhead. I’ll change your mind about conservatives.
By JK
October 13, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
Realist, thanks for your rational comments! I’m not going to quote campaign material here, but I will offer a couple of things I think we should all think about: (1) There’s never any guarantee that the next crop of pols won’t be just as crooked as the last. But voting OUT those who haven’t performed well (subjective, I know) is the only way we can instill accountability. We should really LOOK at an incumbent’s performance and the issues of the day EACH AND EVERY election year. Our best chance of getting them to care about the job they’re doing instead of just maintaining their special position in life, is to hold them accountable for their performance to US, the VOTERS, not their parties or their donors. Loyalties get in the way of facts, and that’s only helping them, not us. (2) The only thing that’s really constant in the world is the fact that things change. Parties change, and often people stick with the label they know & love instead of looking inside. I respect old-school Repubs like Eisenhower and Goldwater. But that’s not what we have now — not even close! People want to be true to their Daddies, but what would Daddy say now? (3) The Dems have shown a real lack of spine in recent years, I believe. But the idea that they have “no ideas” simply isn’t true. When you have no power, you don’t lead committees, and you don’t get heard. There ARE ideas, but when the committee leader shuts off your microphone and walks out of the meeting, you’re not getting heard. (I watch C-SPAN; I’ve SEEN it.) When an unprecedented propaganda machine berates you every time you open your mouth, what are people hearing? Truth, or spin? (4) One-party rule by either party is destined for failure. Without checks, balances, and compromises, we have really lost the things that made America the best. IMO. Thanks for listening.
By Bookie
October 13, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
Several years ago a Superior Court Judge came into my office (at a newspaper) and asked what he could do to make the county commission repair the leaky roof of the courthouse in a small neighboring county. I told him to have a citizen petition for a writ of mandamus which he did. The leaky roof was repaired post haste. I believe your Judge Shoob is operating under a writ of mandamus. It is tricky law but effective against incompetent elected officials. I’m also a conservative and often question activist judges, but there are times when it is justified. Your jail problem is one of those times.
By Realist
October 13, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this
I dont really care why gas is down Debbie. Im just glad its down. I didnt blame the GOP when it went up, and I dont credit them now that its down. Gas has always been a volatile market. Do some reading on it.
To Debbie, abc, JK, et. al, We patiently await names of democratic candidates who have a new message, no skeletons, and can lead us better than the current administration.
By Van
October 13, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this
Regarding Darfur.
Here is a sticky situation.
We could go in with a large military force, but we would be fighting muslims. Might not work well trying to woo the moderates if we start fighting North African muslims. But then again, helping the muslims in Bosnia did not help us with the moderates either - so we would be in a lose-lose situation there.
Also involved is the Sudan’s contracts with China to manage and work the oil fields. If we are trying to get China to help us with North Korea, we might not want to p*ss them off. Any fighting in the Sudan would be between US forces and the Sudan government, that would put their contracts at risk.
By Jim's a Distractor
October 13, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Realist,
Here’s the difference. If the AJC were as liberal as everyone says, if they were a mouthpiece for the left the way Wooten et al, are for the right, then the editorial would have been a condemnation of the right’s viscious attactks against Reid…how the allegations are politically motivated and how there is a cabal of bile spewing, anti-American, fear mongering, hateful Republicans out to get him.
Instead what we have is the AJC pointing out that the man has some issues that he should consider before getting back up on his high horse.
As far as the Contract With America goes, well that just speaks for itself. I’ll keep posting that on this blog until I get tired of doing it.
I want Jim to see it every time he looks here. In fact…
REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA
As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.
That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.
This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.
Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.
On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:
By JSanders
October 13, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
So what kind of incomes do all those conservatives have that pay Ann Coulter $1000.00 a pop?
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
Yep, another Democrat would not let McArthur do what was need back in the 50’s. I guess Truman was not connecting the dots back then when he would not let McArthur nuke the chinese streaming over the North Korean border
Van, quick history lesson: (A)Harry Truman was president when the Korean War began in 1950, and Dwight Eisenhower was elected in 1952 and was president until it ended in 1953.
(B) MacArthur was the United Nations Commander for the Korean War. So he would not have fallen under the jurisdiction of any American President, but under the jurisdiction of the United Nations.
By Dusty
October 13, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this
Southern Democrat,
I don’t believe you have read much about Darfur. There has been a treaty hetween the Sundanese government and the rebels in Darfur who fight them. The fighting INCREASED after that treaty. The refugee camps are filled with thousands of women and children with no resources. Some refugees have moved to camps in Chad, the poorest country in the world. Conditions are no better. African Union troops are limited and are allowed few enforcement rules. Militias roam, raid and rape. One is the Janjaweed, thought to be paid by the Sudanese government.
One school of thought about the Muslim Sudanese government is this: removal of the population of Darfur will rid the country of most Christians and animists and make the oil rich region ready for development. Therefore the Sudanese government is not greatly concerned about the people of Darfur.
Please read more about Darfur as hundreds of thousands have already died and the toll is rising rapidly. It has already been labeled genocide.
By Realist
October 13, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this
When an unprecedented propaganda machine berates you every time you open your mouth, what are people hearing? Truth, or spin?
JK, Are you serious? The machine mentioned above has been running full tilt against Bush from the moment he took office!!!
Again, Bush CANNOT be re-elected. The candidates from the right that are likely to run have extrememly similar views as GW and will act very similarly to GW if elected. So again, I ask, since there is obviously no relief in sight for you and other dems if a republican is elected, (and I can name a handful of which one WILL certainly be the nominee) who can the democratic party put up who has no skeletons that the “propaganda machine” can use against him and who has new ideas different than what GW and his admin is already doing?? We are a year from elections. There has to be a platform and some candidates by now. I mean after 8 years of b*** and moaning about THE WRONG WAY TO DO THINGS, surely there are plenty standing in line from the left who can offer THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT. So I ask for the 10000th time, who are they, and what do they stand for and what is thier record?
By Van
October 13, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
History lesson - Truman fired McArthur - he wanted to nuke the northern border and Truman didn’t
Other issues involved, but Truman did fire him.
By Realist
October 13, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this
Instead what we have is the AJC pointing out that the man has some issues that he should consider before getting back up on his high horse.
So you are condemning the AJC for telling the TRUTH, rather than reporting spin? The man does have issues, its called hypocrisy, and it is infectious among democrats.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this
Republicans talking about fair play?!? what’s next, dog’s giving up meat?
One quick note: Remember Anne Richards, (Texas Governor who Dubya ran against in 1994); remember that smear campaign that the Republicans ran against her? They itimated that she was a lesbian, etc. in order for Dubya, who had NO previous experiencing running anything but varius companies into the ground, could win.
And now, you’re hollering about FAIR PLAY???!! Amazing.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
I did. The book is called “Big Business, Politics, and the Contract with America”, By Jack Abramoff and Halliburton.
To Debbie, abc, JK, et. al, We patiently await names of democratic candidates who have a new message, no skeletons, and can lead us better than the current administration.
What, do you want us to hold your weewee while you go to the bathroom too? READING is fundamental.
By Captain Freedom
October 13, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this
Van @10:32 … KUDOS my friend, for having the courage to say what all Right Thinking people believe. There is no problem so severe that dropping a few well-placed nukes won’t solve. Why, if we had pulverized those surging yellow commie hordes like MacArthur said…or if we had nuked the damned Russkies like Patton said…or those damnable slanty-eyed demons of Vietnam like Westmoreland wanted…why, just think how many fewer enemies the United States would have today.
And Barbara, my sweet object of Freedom, I agree…those faith-based charities are really the way to go. I hear Jim Bakker has some free time on his hands, perhaps he is available to lead the charge. (Alas, Jimmy Swaggart is otherwise engaged.) Just keep the money away from dusky hucksters like Creflo Dollar and TD Jakes. You know how those people are with money…nice car with rims, fancy shoes, bling bling, etc.
The Captain retires now for the day, knowing that the mental midgets of the left will tremble and cower before the shimmering genius of Van, Realist, and Barbara. And the power duo of Markus and TFTT (the right’s own Milli Vanilli) have yet to even take the stage. Yes, it’s a great day to be a White Christian Male, or as we prefer to be called, True Americans.
By JK
October 13, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this
So I ask for the 10000th time, who are they, and what do they stand for and what is thier record?
Realist, I see you’ve chosen to ignore my sincere, thoughtful comments to again accuse me of having nothing to say. (Thanks for being consistent, Dude.) Are you in the 7th district? If so, here are the websites of your Congressional choices: http://www.johnlinder.com/
http://www.allanburns.com/ (I live in a different district, and therefore cannot comment on your candidates. We can only vote in our OWN districts.)
I’d not presume to instruct you what to think or believe, or how to vote, but only ask that you consider what both candidates have to say, and to thoroughly review the incubment’s record, and that of the existing Congress, before making a choice. As with any employee, if they don’t meaure up, perhaps you’d like to give someone else a chance. If you like him, then keep him. It’s not about what the newspapers say.
I’ll also not presume to think that you don’t care or that your mind has been made up FOR you by a label you claim as your own, and you don’t need to think carefully before voting. Surely you, a good husband, father, and American, would not put party before country. (By the way, you might want to read up on Karl Rove a bit before you underestimate his accomplishments in the realm of propaganda. Bush & Cheney love him for a reason.)
By Realist
October 13, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this
And now, you’re hollering about FAIR PLAY???!! Amazing.
This is where you are again wrong. I beleive that there is nothing good or fair or decent about politics. I believe this to be true on both sides. I believe there are decisions and policies that are made and created that I don’t understand because as a common citizen I do not know all the intricate details involved. Clearly some here cant or wont admit this. The left seems to be on a very big high horse and have been since 2002. Throwing stones at every opportunity. Laughing at every misstep. Celebrating in our failures as a country. So its not about fair play Debbie, its about putting up or shutting up. The time has come to not just yell from the stands but to strap on a helmet and go in the game. So whats the gameplan? I havent heard one whatsoever.
By Breaking News
October 13, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON (AP) — Rep. Bob Ney pleaded guilty Friday to bribery charges stemming from the Jack Abramoff influence-peddling investigation. The Ohio Republican was the first member of Congress convicted in the scandal that has tainted the White House as well as Capitol Hill. He faces up to 10 years in prison.
Ney confessed his wrongdoing before U.S. District Judge Ellen Huvelle in a federal courthouse a few blocks distant from the Capitol, where until recently he wielded a chairman’s gavel.
The Ohio Republican did not speak to reporters as he made his way into the courthouse. It was his first public appearance since entering an alcohol treatment program last month.
Inside the courtroom, Huvelle spent nearly a half-hour asking the sandy-haired, red-faced congressman a series of questions about whether he understood the charges and agreed that he had taken money, gifts and favors in return for official actions on behalf of Abramoff and his clients.
At the end she asked him how he pleaded to the conspiracy count, he replied, “I plead guilty your honor.”
Asked how he pleaded to the count of false statements, he replied, “I plead guilty, your honor.”
(Copyright 2006, The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
By abc
October 13, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this
Regarding potential presidential candidates in 2008, McCain is a Republican I would consider voting for; John Edwards, Evan Bayh, Tom Vilsack are Democrats I’d consider. They’re all middle-of-the-road types.
How about Hillary vs. Jeb Bush? I shudder at the thought… talk about lose-lose…
By Dusty
October 13, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
DebbieDoLittle dabbles diligently for Dems daily. Does Debbie double her dotty delusions due to double donations by Dems?
Doubtful? I dunno. Definitely dimitude in Debbie’s Democratic dominion..
By JoeD
October 13, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this
I find it highly amusing that the party of fiscal conservatives is crowing about a national deficit that is lower than projected. Seems to me that at the end of the Clinton adminsitration, we had balanced budgets and a surplus. Dubya has spent his money, his inheritance and the inheritance of his children and grandchildren,money he didn’t have, and yet he is congratulated for not spending as much of the money he did not have as everyone thought he would spend. That’s a neat way to stand conservative values on their head to try to make a positive out of a negative. And by the way, does the deficit figure still not count the cost of the Iraq and Afghani wars?
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this
From the History Of The Korean War (American History ):
By early 1951, Truman really wanted to end the Korean War, of which Americans were becoming more and more weary. MacArthur’s unilateral decision to threaten the PRC angered Truman because it only made the Chinese more resolved to stay in the war. MacArthur, acting without consulting Washington first, was becoming more and more undependable. On the one hand he, (MacAruthur), was a military genius who served America brilliantly; on the other hand he was an egomaniac who refused to follow orders and got America involved in battles to serve his own personal and political ends. (sound familiar?)
On his own, MacArthur decided to go even further in antagonizing the Chinese. In March, without consulting Washington, he decided to send an ultimatum to the PRC. MacArthur demanded that the Chinese withdraw their troops. If they didn’t, he promised to force China to its knees. MacArthur, still hoping to one day run for President, became obsessed with an absolute victory. He began trying to manipulate Washington, messaging information so that Washington would order him to do exactly what he wanted.
MacArthur felt that the North Korean army had been essentially destroyed by the middle of October, and, against the recommendations of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, he sent his forces into the northernmost parts of North Korea. His troops were hit by surprise and decimated when Chinese Communists troops began attacking his forces.
In 1951 Truman announced in a press conference that the US was considering using the A-Bomb. Defense spending for the US had reached $55 Billion for the Fiscal Year 1952 budget, up from $13 Billion annually before the Korean War.
Truman wanted to bomb Korea, but did not have the backing to do it. Not the common misbelief that he didn’t have the guts.
By getalife
October 13, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this
So whats the gameplan?
The gameplan is to enlist and fight for what you say you believe in.
Put up or shut up indeed.
By CBF
October 13, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
As you all know I am neither democrat nor republican but AMERICAN! Republicans are thought hypocrites because they preach morality and don’t care if the poor are all swept away. Not all poor are that way because they are drunk, lazy or haven’t tried. Those who are should get nothing but not all are in that category.
By Barbara
October 13, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
Alright Captain. I don’t like your politics, but you sure can swagger with the best of them. And no one looks better in a bowtie :-) When I indicated faith-based, I was talking about local churches, not Jim Bakker or those other TV crooks.
By Realist
October 13, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
We arent talking districts here sweetcheeks JK. We are talking the presidency. You know, the man and his administration who you and your ilk have slammed and made fun of for over 6 years. Who could do nothing right. Who is blamed for things that occurred before he was even farking born!!
You hypocrit SOB’s cant come up with a name that isnt embarrassing to admit you support. You cant come up with someone who doesnt have more skeletons than a graveyard. You cant come up with someone who’s record isnt horrendous. You cant come up with someone who isnt in one word, laughable.
Like I said, its time to put or shut up dems. Hell JK, maybe you should run. If only it werent for those SSRI’s and heavy drinking. Oh well.
I will leave now, Im afraid its time to tee up the little white ball. Perhaps by the time I return the hypocritic left will have come up with somebody worthy of backing as our next leader since the current one is such a disaster.
By Realist
October 13, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this
CBF, The “hypocrit” republicans are intelligent and realistic enough to know that no matter what, there will always be a class system, and thusly, there will always be a lower class. The republicans dont approve of spend trillions upon trillions trying to erradicate something that cant be erradicated. We must live and work within the realm of the possible, and this is difficult for a utopic liberal to grasp.
By JK
October 13, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this
Thanks for the clarification, Bama Boy, but we are electing CONGRESSMEN in a few weeks. That’s like, one-third of the three branches of the Federal Government. DOH! We can’t do 2008 in 2006.
Beam me up, Scotty. No intelligent life here today. I think I’ll go to a golf course and watch fat rich guys haul their guts in and out of their golf carts while they get drunk and swear at their clubs.
By peter
October 13, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this
Hy Jim,
Bob Ney just pleaded QUILTY to Bribery……must be more of those Republican morals……..
I guess that is just another “Ocassional” Republican failure?
Tey sure seems to be allot of “ocassional Republican failures” these days!
By the way the budget is down this year Jim, but have you heard the prediction for the next few years…….going back up Jim not down………you are truely another “Spin Doctor”.
Republicans are about “BIG Government, and “special interests”…….. very poor fiscal management!
Talking to “Bush” shouldn’t mean about a plant in someon’s YARD!
By time for the truth
October 13, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this
Big nose dikeonabike Streisand is one of the most pathetic worthless self aborbed morons in the free world. What this sad f a g h a g actually thinks about anything is of less consequence than the fate of all that drooling spittle oozing down rednekkk NAMBLA’s chin during its latest round of court ordered Electro Shock Treatment.
I wouldn’t cross the street to watch this talentless arrogant feminazi nutter perform, - not NAMBLA of course but the ageing nasalvoicedshrew - show tunes are the very worst kind of execrable musak … ONLY SIX WEEKS OR SO TO THE WHO CONCERT - England at its best musically … LOVELY JUBBBLY!
I see brainless curtis is still belabouring under the paranoid delusion that yours truly isn’t yours truly - WHAT A SILLY WANKER!!
The deeply cretinous debbiedumbarse is again revealing her crass ignorant stupidity - domestic petrol prices are NOT controlled by the GOP or Bush - but feel free to post such conspiratorial bollocks honeykins.
The irrational, envious, sociopathic Bush hate continues apace on here. You’d think after venting such genetically challenged spleens at warp(ed) drive (gedditt pinko trekkkies?) for a troglodyte aeon or two the maggot licking puss sucking crypto marxist vermin on here would be all burnt out - better still all burnt up in a fit of Bush hate spontaneous combustion. But like a Kennedy drug addict in rehab for the nineteenth time or a Clinton at Sex Addicts Anonymous its the cyber gift that keeps on giving.
Dingy Harry Reid’s naked hypocrisy and grasping liberal snout in the sweetheart land deal trough is not being reported quite as voraciously as any GOP type who’d done the same thing would be, so nothing new there.
If the termagant Pelosi becomes the official speaker at least we can look forward to a brief two year NRA cottage industry of blow up “nagging” Pelosi dolls for weekly target practice at the nations (machine) gun clubs.
By Prisoner #448102 LSCHRENKO
October 13, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this
Republican morality….”Does this new face-lift make me look fat?”
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this
DebbieDoLittle dabbles diligently for Dems daily. Does Debbie double her dotty delusions due to double donations by Dems
Cripes!!! Why couldn’t your tag begin with G? I have a LOT great come backs for G! OK so, I will follow suit with Real and, since I can’t beat you, I’ll call you crappy names and whine about your being unfair, (sorry — I guess that’s just a Republican thang..)
DustyDoesDallas — Dilligently.
sigh……
By Andy
October 13, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this
It appears now that Babs has contingency plans to maintain her Farewell Tour through 2010.
By Van
October 13, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
Good story, only slightly off, His Royal Majesty, McArthur did act without consultations, but HE wanted to bomb the northen borders, Truman, who served until January of 53, did not have the backing of his own military or the UN.
By Talon News
October 13, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this
You libby libs just don’t get it do you????? Republicans are the backbone of morality. We invented it. You Hollywood libs are kooky.
Family Values is not just another empty slogan. Got It????
Jeff… O~O
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
The left seems to be on a very big high horse and have been since 2002. Throwing stones at every opportunity. Laughing at every misstep
It’s because you guys make it sooooo easy. Here’s a joke for you: Cheney: Dubya I need you to tell the American People that Iraq is a terrorist state, Saddam is just waiting to attack us, and we need a Home Land Security Advisor.
Dubya: Wait a minute, isn’t Condi, who is the National Security Advisor doing that job already? We’ve been telling the American people for months that Iraq’s capability to wage war is moot, and weren’t WE the ones who helped Saddam into power in the first place?
Cheney: There’s some Jim Beam in my pocket with your name on it.
Dubya: I’ll call the press.
By Realist
October 13, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this
JK, Dont hate me because you are tied to your tiny cubicle on a beautiful crisp fall day like this and I get to be free to do as I please. Maybe you can take an extra smoke break today out back by the dumpster and get a glimpse of this glorious day!!
And dont forget, its friday!! You know what that means? Its the BIG box of whine tonight baby!!
By Andy
October 13, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
What if all the betrothed women in Darfur became runaway brides? Would we then be the world’s cowboys, and round them up, and herd them all back to Darfur?
And if Foley and his page were part of the posse would this movie be called, “Brokeback Caucasus”?
That’s it: The movie of Foley’s life could be the sequel to “Brokeback Mountain” and entitled, “Brokeback Caucus”, a real butte of a movie!!! Two thumbs up! D’OH! somebody stop me. I’m out of control!
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this
Celebrating in our failures as a country. So its not about fair play Debbie, its about putting up or shutting up. The time has come to not just yell from the stands but to strap on a helmet and go in the game. So whats the gameplan? I havent heard one whatsoever.
That’s because you refuse to listen. Or pretend to not hear. You pretended to believe that Saddam had WMD’s and it was our god given right to Strike By Might. You heard only the words, oil and fragile economy; and chose not to hear the words, inconclusive and no such reported evidence.
People have been talking to you rationally about the state of the USA for years, months, weeks — still you refuse to listen. So YOU put up and shut up. YOU fix the big pile of $hit you landed us in. What?? Can’t do it?? Then YOU shut up. Your constant “Celebrating in our failures as a country” whine is pedantic and pathetic. Try something new and original for a change.
By Cletus Snow
October 13, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this
Its safe to bet I wont be hearing Babs F bomb I would rather go to the V and watch them build chili dogs,$750 hah get real.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this
You hypocrit SOB’s cant come up with a name that isnt embarrassing to admit you support. You cant come up with someone who doesnt have more skeletons than a graveyard. You cant come up with someone who’s record isnt horrendous. You cant come up with someone who isnt in one word, laughable.
At least WE didn’t come up with George W. Bush!!! Now if THAT wasn’t laughable, what was?!!??
By peter
October 13, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this
HA HA HA “Realist”
……..liberals want trillions spend on the class war……..ha ha ha…….anyone with a brain wouldn’t spend Billions invading another country, and killing thousands of innocent folks………then spinning the story that ALL is going well!
Here is something that IS REALISTIC….
You can’t be Pro Life, and Pro War…..killing is killing no matter what the age of the victim is!
And the comment Bush makes before going to war……”I prayed to my God before invading Iraq”…….ha ha ha….to that silly statement!
Yes he was praying for his pocket book, and Dick’s as well…….
By Andy
October 13, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
There’s a big difference between Mel Reynolds hitting up on a seventeen year old and Foley hitting up on a seventeen year old, it’s called Reynold’s was a democrat!
Hah!
We don’t have to follow the rules, we just make them up.
And apply them to Republicans whenever we want.
By Andy
October 13, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
My mommy and daddy were idiot liberals voting straight democrat every election and they sent me to public school so I would become an idiot just like them.
I came to visit this blog because I thought Luckovich would be an idiot like me and I could trade anti American talking points and masterbate with my fellow traitors and just be happy reveling in our gay bashing and Al Qaeda appeasement.
But I never expected there to be so many different opinions, especially those that say America is good and people should take responsibility for their own lives. What are these people talking about, America is good?
I don’t like hearing these things.
But remember, I am a jack leg moron, a mouth drooling heathen, I blame everybody else for my problems and I want to raise your taxes so that the government is fat enough for me to sue over some stupid reason like global warming so that I can live off of your money.
I have to make these Conservatives stop with their opinions, you don’t need to be hearing about responsibility, but I’m too stupid to debate them, plus raising taxes is not a good argument and it costs us lots of votes!!
So what I have to do is jack their names, like Andy, and spread ignorance, which I know well, so that it confuses the other idiots like me.
If that doesn’t work then I’ll lie to you by saying the Conservatives links are infected and don’t open them.
It’s all I can do because I’m a hollow empty waste of a human being with no morals and no soul except for what the government provides me.
So you can believe me or you can believe the America is good crowd.
It’s your choice, no, I forgot, you have no choice under liberalism, never mind about that last part.
By Markus
October 13, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this
Liberals and tolerance is a farce. Limousine liberals and money are hypocritically power-hungry dangerous. Sure liberals are tolerant… amongst their own kind. Liberals always try to out shout and shut up their opponents (conservatives/libertarians or ANYONE that doesn’t agree with their ideology); liberals always have to bull-horn protest and hold picket crowd chants where conservatives meet; liberals on college campuses like to protest, shout insults, and get confrontational up to physical intimidation when a conservative student organization tries to “spread the word” about their organization; liberals like to throw pies in the faces of conservative commentators and run; liberals like to get on conservative blogs and spam the hell out of it with their Stalinist propaganda BS; liberals like to use gay epithets and insult those gays who are Republicans; liberals like to use racial slurs to insult those minorities who are Republicans.
Speaking of shouting, look at that liberal pig Rosie O’Donnell on The View: every time one of her co-hosts says something that leans conservative, O’Donnell’s face blows up and she starts getting more and more shrill and wont’ let her co-host respond without interruptions. That’s nice. Real nice.
No, the party of alleged tolerance, the Democrits, and their mindless minion liberals, have NO tolerance for those that don’t think like them… not unlike Islamofascists. One has to look no further than right here on this blog. After all, if you aren’t a liberal Democrit, you are “stupid” or a “nazi.” What bright, open-minded people, those liberals.
Atlanta isn’t the only city that has mismanaged federal dollars. Just about every major city from San Freaksicko to Miami has wasted money on mismanagement and misappropriation and yes, FRAUD. But you never hear about this from the left.
One Republican falls, and the party of the Jackass, the Democrits, think they are now holier than thou and preach from their atheistic pulpits on how all Republicans are child molesters, evil, and just bad for America. Oh wait, the laundry-lifter liberals are doing that right here on this blog… my bad.
Wow what a shocker. A California appellate court said STATES should be the ones to mandate the gay marriage issue via the people and legislatures. Whodda thunk California would remember the Bill Of Rights and shifting what’s not protected by the Constitution to the states? Naturally, this is one of those rare examples where liberals are actually afraid of the “people” deciding things. They didn’t like the outcome of those dozen or so states that voted against gay marriage in 2004 when it was on their ballots either.
Darfur is not fixed yet? I thought the UN was the world’s police force and problem solvers. I thought, at least what the Democrits like Gore and Clinton say, that the UN was fully capable of managing everything from preventing nations of getting WMDs and nukes to feeding the poor. Well, what the hell is so complicated about Darfur? Why can’t they handle that? We’re only talking rebels and warlords there. I mean, it’s not like WMDs, nukes, and dictators are a threat or anything.
Regarding North Korea, Bush is doing EXACTLY what the liberal Democrits wanted him to do in Iraq; TALK. Now these hypocrites are saying Bush hasn’t “done enough” to stop North Korea from getting nukes. I’m sorry, jackass appeasement liberals showed us the light that talks are the “way.” When the hell did they change their minds? About the same time they decided serving in the military was important in being president?
Don’t tell liberals about the tax cuts and record increased federal revenues and the deficit being cut. They will just say that our real problem is Socialist Security and Medicaid as boomers start retiring next decade. Of course, they’ve never offered how to fix SS, they’ve only screamed that the Republican plan won’t work. What the hell else is new in liberal La-la land.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
The deeply cretinous debbiedumbarse is again revealing her crass ignorant stupidity - domestic petrol prices are NOT controlled by the GOP or Bush - but feel free to post such conspiratorial bollocks honeykins
Twisted Truth you’re back!!! I missed you!! SIDEBAR: Truth, what is it about you and lesbians? Jealous?
By Van
October 13, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this
Captain Freedom,
You laugh about dropping nukes, bad manners.
It does make one wonder if we had taken a tougher stance with the Russians and the Chinese.
And the phrase is —
“There is no problem so bad, that can’t be fix with the proper application of high explosives.”
By Andy
October 13, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this
And this crap about blaming Clinton for the effects of his policy on America, what kind of sh-it is this?
Who do you think Clinton is, Bush?
Come on, he’s a democrat, he doesn’t have to undergo media scrutiny like Bush does.
Clinton lied to a grand jury but that’s tough titty, he’s a liberal and gets a pass. We call Bush the liar even though he’s only told the truth.
By harold
October 13, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this
harold says let’s have a Korean War. that’ll fix it!
OH wait.
we tried that already.
didnt work.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this
He was praying for a rum and coke.
By Van
October 13, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this
Andy, “There’s a big difference between Mel Reynolds hitting up on a seventeen year old and Foley hitting up on a seventeen year old, it’s called Reynold’s was a democrat!”
You missed the part where Foley did not hit up on a 17 year old, the little f* was 18.
By Markus
October 13, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this
@Proud Social Engineer 8:09am-
“A liberal with that kind of money would have to have an inheritance, a government consulting contract or a love relationship with a free-enterprise conservative.”
“Or perhaps we’re just more successful at playing the stock market than Republicans?”
That’s an interesting observation considering Conservatives and Republicans in general earn more than Liberals and Democrats, and Republicans always out-raise Democrats in political fundraisers.
By Andy
October 13, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this
Plus, when are we going to start calling Bush a rapist? This has gone to long, it’s time for us to start. It is the ultimate in Chutzpa, we spent all those years defending Clinton of his serial groping, mashing and sexual assault, wouldn’t it be funny to smear Bush with that sh-it even though he’s never done it?
That’s what being a democrat is all about, lie and dissemble, fabricate and propagandize, cheat and steal.
Let’s get to work y’all!
By RNC Chairman
October 13, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this
Believe me, The Republican Party is the party of morals. Big time.
Kenny Boy
By Andy
October 13, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this
And what about Hillary, when are we going to start the stubby legged fat dy-ke’s disinformation campaign?
What are we waiting for, you liberals aren’t scared are you? Remember, this bit-ch Hillary got away with murdering Vince Foster, taking $100,000 bribe for “cattle futures, steering defense contracts to campaign contributors and all the other ten year minimum felonies all because of your hard work!!
So let’s get out there and get this pig elected!!
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
But remember, I am a jack leg moron, a mouth drooling heathen
So true. So true.
By BlackPearl
October 13, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
Mr.Wooten,
Another one bites the dusk….. Rep. Ney (R-Ohio) is on his way to jail.
Prison - the new republican vacation.
Send a Thank You note to Jack Abramoff.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
He had been hitting up on him for 2 years……back when he was 16.
By peter
October 13, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this
Andy you are right……..”Bush” is a rapist…..he has raped the American pocketbook for his own devices…….yes you are correct!
Thank you for making that statement…..one we could all agree too!
By time for the truth
October 13, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
debbiedumbarse
occasionally you can elicit a superb hissy fit from some outraged pinko termite if you make witty amusing comments about dikes and poofs … harold is usually the one who gets very defensively uppity - oh and especially the self appointed forum queer police CJ - who (shhhhhh folks!) is actually a poof.
So debbiedumbarse, why did you post such witless drivel about supposed petrol manipulation? I naturally (and generously) assumed it was purely out of complete ignorance and not pure envious liberal malevolence.
P.S … I haven’t missed you at all!! But I kind of miss that morbidly obese cockroach I saw debating Governor Perdue the other night.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
That’s an interesting observation considering Conservatives and Republicans in general earn more than Liberals and Democrats, and Republicans always out-raise Democrats in political fundraisers
Yeah, that’s why Republicans have more money to bribe people. Good point.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this
Bush is NOT a rapist. He’s a drunk. Know the difference.
By TGIF
October 13, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
I think Democrats are “counting the chickens before they hatch”. Relying on information from polls, bloggers and the media is a bad mistake. Remember the past two Presidental elections? Oh, that’s right … your mantra is that GWB stole both elections. I agree with Realist in that you liberals just do not want to admit that your party is not in touch with reality. The only way you can be heard is by throwing tantrums and blaming GWB for everything, including your own personal failures. Your tirates against anything Republican counters your “tolerance and acceptance” facade. I am happy to admit that I am an ex-Democrat. I only “went left” to get through college. Democrats are proving everyday that they have nothing to offer our country - no real policies (foreign or domestic) or candidates for that matter. So, keep on spouting your hatred … your lunacy is helping the Republican party as you speak!
By BlackPearl
October 13, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this
Mr.Wooten,
I just read that Bob Ney is asking for Alcoholism Treatment. Good for him….. I just find it funny that everything happening with your party is blamed on alcoholism. Take personal responsibility; don’t blame it on alcohol or other people. Isn’t that one of your parties motto’s?
Don’t get me wrong, both parties have alcoholics, amongst other things…………..both parties have more in common than they would like to disclose.
By Markus
October 13, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
Air America crashes and burns. Meheheheheeee. It couldn’t have happened to a nicer hellhole.
Hey Al Freaken! Maybe you can get your $361k from George Soros. Give him a call ya short man with the shortmansyndrome.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this
Korea:
The JCS, (Joint Chief Of Staff), was increasingly afraid that MacArthur’s tactless reaction to such an offensive might allow the situation to grow into a major conflict, perhaps a World War III. Making sure of support within the JCS, which unanimously supported MacArthur’s dismissal, Truman fired MacArthur on April 11, 1951. Republicans nearly brought impeachment hearings against Truman, but were prevented because the JCS stood unanimously behind his decision.
By Andy
October 13, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this
Debbie: Who you talking about Mel Reynolds, democrat or Foley?
By DebbieDoRight October 13, 2006 12:14 PM He had been hitting up on him for 2 years……back when he was 16.
Oh, it don’t matter, if it’s Reynolds we’ll just tell everybody that it his “right to privacy” and call the Repugs “bedroom peeping toms.”
If it’s Foley then that guy is a freaking pervert, a homo, is that what we’re calling him?
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this
So debbiedumbarse, why did you post such witless drivel about supposed petrol manipulation?
Why not? You post the most ridiculous crap I’ve ever seen.
P.S … I haven’t missed you at all!!
Oh Boo Hoo
But I kind of miss that morbidly obese cockroach I saw debating Governor Perdue the other night.
You mean your “special” uncle Bob?
By BlackPearl
October 13, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this
TGIF - the only thing helping the republican party are people who “truly have group think mentality” and the inablility to form an opinion based upon substance. They live on fear and stereotypes. Most never venture outside of their own communities.
They will believe and stick with the hypocrits in the republican party, just because GrandPa said it was the right party. It’s like “yall” say about football in this state, It’s a way of life.
Slogan - Stupidity is a way of life.
I’ve had my say and I’ll see if Jim comes up with a good topic on Monday. Until then…….
By time for the truth
October 13, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
BYE BYE DEAD AIR AMERICA … snigger snigger smirk snigger
these hate pig liberal losers are finished.
NO ONE’s listening - and very few ever did.
America truly hates liberals - otherwise this pathetic network - with huge freebie lefty PR in the NY Slimes etc would have been a great success.
Proof positive that Bush hate is only tolerated by a minority of hate and blame America types.
You can always listen in with Rush’s 20 million plus daily listeners for objective, witty, factual analysis!!
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this
Both. Who cares if it’s dem or repub? Anybody who tries to seduce a child, (and even though 16 is the age of consent in some states, they’re still children); is a blight upon society.
By Captain Freedom
October 13, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this
Markus,
You forgot to make a big point about Rosie being a lesbo carpet cleaner. You are slipping, sir. I let my guard down for just a minute and you post that kind of sloppy work?!?!? Must the Captain remain ever vigilant, or could some of you second-string True Believers hold up your own fat arses for even an hour or two. Remember, fat is a great word to apply to gluttonous Democrats*, but calling them donut bumpers scores extra points.
cf. Andy’s well-reasoned post about Hitlery at 12:11 to see how it is really done. Straight fact, no side opinion. Just the honest truth about a murderous she-wolf d** who drinks the blood of aborted fetuses for breakfast.
By the way, Foley and Ney are not Republicans. They are, respectively, queer and crooked, and Republicans are not those things. I suspect they are undercover Demoncrats.
By Van
October 13, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this
DumblyDoRight,
Was there any physical contact?
Or is flirting now illegal - Do gays flirt? is it called flirting between rump rangers? What is the correct phrase when talking about bunky-buddies. Do these bare back riders even consider flirting - just curious, don’t want to offend anyone.
By jbmlaw
October 13, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
Good afternoon, all; at war today, not much time to play. Clearly great minds run along similar lines, as Jim and Peggy Noonan make the same arguments today, on tolerance and hypocrisy. I am mildly amused, as Peggy’s essay implicitly vindicates the hard-line approach of my friend TFTT, who does not particularly like Peggy. http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110009078
Debbie @ 8:07 reminds us of the difference between dems and repubs: both wallow in the gutter, but the repubs try to do better. Some of Debbie’s posts prove where she is; such language!
I’m glad “Jim’s a Distractor” @ 8:25 reminds us of the total default of the Democrats on policy proposals. Seemingly the Republican contract with America was the last policy statement offered by a major party. You dems need to urge your uber-meisters to articulate something to believe in. Customarily you cannot beat something with nothing, and the dems have tried this Seinfield strategy for six election cycles now.
Dear Willx @ 8:32, I think we both agree that Republicans think the government should stay the hand of one who kills the innocent, and Democrats would only stay the hand of the one who kills those convicted of evil.
SCT @ 8:53, more innocents died at the hands of Ted Kennedy than all of the Republicans you listed combined. But then, the death of an innocent means nothing to you, right?
MidSouth is the classiest writer on this blog, no insult intended Southern Democrat or Barbara. I don’t agree with MidSouth’s argument today (and by contrast I think Southern may have a pretty good argument there), but you have to think he’d (actually both’d) be a great guy to talk with over an evening.
Dear Teddy Stevens @ 9:16, yes, and Teddy Kennedy would find a way to drive off the side and kill a young intern.
Dear Pope @ 9:55, congrats, hope you win a bundle, even if you aren’t one of us.
Dear Dana @ 10:10, don’t worry about the face-to-face. On the assumption Kim has a bomb and a missile to deliver it, he could hit only San Francisco, hardly worth our concern.
Dear JK @ 10:42, well-said. Maybe I should have mentioned you in my compliment to MidSouth. Next to @@, you are the best young writer on this board.
Have a great weekend, all.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this
Don’t tell liberals about the tax cuts and record increased federal revenues and the deficit being cut.
Who started the deficit in the first place? Duh!
By time for the truth
October 13, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this
You post the most ridiculous crap I’ve ever seen.
Damn … I thought you never read your own posts before you hit the post button … cheers for confirming that.
BTW why are posting with a female id when you are sort of male? … although I understand your sex change is thus far indeterminate.
By R Cagle
October 13, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten “But the people’s elected agent does appear to be incapable of doing the job himself.”
The key words here are the “people’s elected agent”. The only way to prevent incompetence and corruption in government is to stop it at the source, i.e., the ballot box. Nothing is going to change as long as “the people” insist on electing and re-electing boobs and crooks.
Speaking of which, are you seriously suggesting that the Fulton County Commission take control of the county jail till the next sheriff’s election? Based on its record of doing what, exactly? Even if it does take it over, the current “people’s elected agent” will probably be the “people’s re-elected agent” after the next sheriff’s election anyway, so what will be accomplished?
One can only hope that the large influx of population we hear so much about also brings with it a large influx of competent voters.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this
You can always listen in with Rush’s 20 million plus daily listeners for objective, witty, factual analysis!!
Did you drink your lunch? “objective, witty, factual analysis!!” of what, his drug habit?
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this
DumblyDoRight,Was there any physical contact? Or is flirting now illegal - Do gays flirt? is it called flirting between rump rangers? What is the correct phrase when talking about bunky-buddies. Do these bare back riders even consider flirting - just curious, don’t want to offend anyone.’
Between Bush & Cheney? Let’s get something straight right now, what adults do to each other is no one’s business. OK?
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this
Debbie @ 8:07 reminds us of the difference between dems and repubs: both wallow in the gutter…. Some of Debbie’s posts prove where she is; such language!
Yes, we should ban words like repuglican from this blog for sure. I’m also up for banning words like “think for yourself” and “read a book, learn something”. That’s filth for sure.
By TGIF
October 13, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight - Keep on blogging … you are so entertaining. Don’t forget that your precious Kennedy family has a RAPIST and a DRUNK and along with a few of MURDERERS in there somewhere. Gotta sign off …I need to do a little research. Maybe you Dems can help me … I need the address for AirAmerica. I hear they could use a little of my hard earned “bribe” money.
By john
October 13, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this
President Lincoln said, “you can’t fool the people all the time.” Lincoln never met Bill Clinton… The reason we have this mess with North Korea is because the Clinton Administration cut a deal with North Korea and never bothered to send in inspectors and verify the agreements. Just be lazy and take them at their word. Well, we see whats happened…. The reason we have Darfur and other such places in North Africa is because the Clinton Administration didn’t do a damn thing. Even after the genocide and ‘chattel slavery of African Blacks’ by their Arab slaveowners was proven. Clinton just looked the other way, as he did in Rwanda. Yet, he’s called the ‘first black president’. His African human rights record is the worst of any president in history. Thus, he fooled an entire community of Americans.. Now we have these commercials asking Bush to do something about Darfur. Where were these commercials during the Clinton years? And what about the UN?…….Mr. Wooten, where am I wrong?
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this
BTW why are posting with a female id when you are sort of male? … although I understand your sex change is thus far indeterminate.
Twisted Truth, What?!? You think you can see me through your computer? Wow!! Those meds must be REALLY strong……
You must’ve been hanging with Rush…
By Van
October 13, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoWrong -
Good one, blindly ignorant, but good.
No, as you know, Foley did not retire from the House for having sex with the 18 year old page, just explicit emails and IM’s.
If there was no physical contact between them, then he did do better than must democrats have done in the past.
He did take a democratic tactic and enrolled in alcohol rehab. I think he is in the Ted or Patrick Kennedy suite.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this
Don’t forget that your precious Kennedy family has a RAPIST and a DRUNK and along with a few of MURDERERS in there somewhere.
So do the Bushes. Laura (murder), Dubya,(drugs & alcohol), Gemma &Twin (underage drinking, disturbing the peace….wow those girls are a piece off the old rocks). Don’t know about Jethro and Ellie Mae — although Granny Bush was caught in a tranny bar last week.
By Pat Robertson
October 13, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
Welcome aboard, Debbie!:
By DebbieDoRight October 13, 2006 12:34 PM Both. Who cares if it’s dem or repub? Anybody who tries to seduce a child, (and even though 16 is the age of consent in some states, they’re still children); is a blight upon society.
God Bless, you!
Just when I thought there was no hope for you filthy liberals, you become a pedophile homphobe just like me!
So what do you think about Sponge Bob Square Pants?
Or Telletubbies?
Can I get an Amen?
By getalife
October 13, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this
A former deputy director of the White House office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives is charging that many members of the Bush administration privately dismiss its conservative Christian allies as “boorish” and “nuts.”
No wonder “realpos” was so angry today. They have betrayed their ignorant base. Suckers, fools, the ignorant masses should be angry over this fact.
By Jim's A Distractor
October 13, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this
I’m sure this is Bill Clingon’s fault:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Five nonprofit groups, including one of President Bush’s biggest supporters, may have broken tax laws and put their tax-exempt status at risk by helping convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff, a Senate Finance Committee report concludes.
The 600-page report issued Thursday was prepared by the committee’s Democratic staff. Majority Republicans, however, had agreed to its release and joined with Democrats in issuing subpoenas for documents and e-mails cited in the report.
Among the groups named as possibly taking money from Abramoff clients and funneling it into his lobbying efforts on their behalf were Americans for Tax Reform, Citizens Against Government Waste and the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy. (Read the Senate Finance Committee’s report — PDF)
Tax-exempt groups are barred by law from being paid to lobby or do public relations.
Americans for Tax Reform is headed by Grover Norquist, a key ally of Bush and a longtime associate of Karl Rove, the president’s chief political adviser.
The report said Norquist’s group accepted $1.5 million from the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, one of Abramoff’s clients. More than two-thirds of that money was then passed to Christian Coalition founder Ralph Reed as part of Abramoff’s lobbying efforts to block a rival tribe’s proposed casino in Alabama.
Nell Rogers, a planner for the Choctaws, told the Senate Indian Affairs Committee that the arrangement was never intended as a contribution to support ATR’s general anti-tax work. She quoted Abramoff as saying Norquist’s group had instead agreed to be a conduit for getting money to Reed, provided that ATR got a fee.
Sen. Max Baucus of Montana, the Senate Finance Committee’s senior Democrat, said his staff turned up evidence showing the groups “may have improved a lobbyist’s power and profits” by unlawfully exploiting their tax-exempt status, possibly even lobbying the White House.
Abramoff pleaded guilty in January to tax evasion and wire fraud. While awaiting sentencing, he is cooperating in a federal bribery investigation that has resulted in convictions against a congressman and the administration’s top procurement officer.
Norquist’s group and a second organization cited in the report denied any wrongdoing. They also questioned the timing of the report’s release so close to November 7 elections in which Republicans are trying to retain their control of Congress.
“This is political nonsense put out by the Democrats in an inappropriate attempt to influence the election,” said John Kartch, communications director for Americans for Tax Reform.
David Williams, a vice president of Citizens Against Government Waste, said it was “kind of suspicious that three weeks before an election, this comes out.” The group named Baucus its monthly “porker” in October 2004 for adding drought relief to a domestic security bill.
“There is no ‘there’ there,” Williams said of the report. “We are very careful about the issues that we pursue.”
The report said Citizens Against Government Waste said some donations to it ended up being used to help Abramoff clients with public relations.
“Nonprofits should not function as de facto lobbying firms. Lobbying for a fee, public relations, and disguising sources of money are not charitable or social welfare activities,” Baucus said.
He said it is up to the Justice Department and Internal Revenue Service, part of the grand jury probes into Abramoff’s dealings, to decide whether the groups broke any tax laws.
Republican Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the committee chairman, could have blocked the report’s release. Grassley said Thursday he would consider the report but said it should have looked at more nonprofit groups.
“The problems are widespread and won’t be resolved just with Mr. Abramoff going to jail,” Grassley said.
The report also questioned the tax-exempt status of other groups, based on their association with Abramoff. It found that:
The Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, co-founded by Italia Federici, Norquist and former interior secretary Gale Norton, received at least $250,000 from Abramoff clients to lobby the Interior Department.
The National Center for Public Policy Research used money from Abramoff’s clients to sponsor golf trips in 2000 and 2003 to Scotland for members of Congress.
Toward Tradition, a religion-centered group once chaired by Abramoff, took money for help with generating news articles for Abramoff and his clients.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoWrong -No, as you know, Foley did not retire from the House for having sex with the 18 year old page, just explicit emails and IM’s.
Basically who cares? Was it illegal what he did? Was the person he did it with underage when the emails and contact started? Would you want YOUR child to be approached by a dirty old man/woman etc as this child was? R U defending him because he is a republican or because you think what he did wasn’t wrong?
What’s the point of your post?
By SPIN!!!
October 13, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
One democrat everyone should be talking about as a possible future Presidential Candidate: BARACK OBAMA.
By getalife
October 13, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this
“National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as ‘ridiculous,’ ‘out of control,’ and just plain ‘goofy,’” Kuo writes.
Finally, something we can all agree on.
Amen.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this
Just when I thought there was no hope for you filthy liberals, you become a pedophile homphobe just like me!
I don’t like pedophiles. Dress it up or dress it down how you like. If you wish to call me a homophobe because of that go right ahead. I will wear that moniker with pride. You touch a child, approach a child sexually, then you are in the wrong PERIOD.
By Andy
October 13, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this
By DebbieDoRight October 13, 2006 01:12 PM Basically who cares? Was it illegal what he did? Was the person he did it with underage when the emails and contact started? R U defending him because he is a republican or because you think what he did wasn’t wrong?
You tell them girlfriend! These Conservatives in here are acting like democrats, they think they can get away with this stuff like we can:
Melvin Jay “Mel” Reynolds (born January 8, 1952) was a Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives from the state of Illinois. August 1994, he was indicted for having sex with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer. Despite the charges, he continued his campaign and was re-elected in November 1994. Reynolds initially denied the charges, which he claimed were racially motivated. On August 22, 1995 he was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault. At that point, U.S. President Bill Clinton commuted the sentence for bank fraud. As a result, Reynolds was released from prison and served the remaining time in a half way house.
By CJ
October 13, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this
Realist @11:16 “So what’s the game plan?”
Good afternoon Realist,
I apologize for taking so long to get back to you. I wanted to get an answer to you before your golf game, but I was having a busy morning. I see that you were too.
This list is incomplete, but I wanted to give you a few Democratic ideas, since you refuse to look at your own candidate’s website:
Fully implement all recommendations in the 9/11 report including common radio frequencies for first responders, securing nuclear and chemical plants, and securing ports.
Distribute homeland security funds based on risk instead of favoritism.
Fully fund Nunn-Lugar to secure former Soviet nukes.
Encourage the President to hold direct bi-lateral talks with North Korea (DPRK). (Note to Bush: The six-party talks aren’t working.)
Explore restoring the terms of the Agreed Framework between the US and DPRK (FYI, North Korea did not break this agreement. We did. In 1996, the Congress refused to allocate sufficient funds for all transitional oil supplies we promised under this Framework. These oil supplies were intended to be used for heating/electricity in place of DPRK’s existing nuclear power plants, which they agreed to shut down, until they finished construction of their light water reactors. As I’m sure jbmlaw can tell you, after one party breaks an agreement, that agreement is no longer valid.).
Actually conduct bids on military contracts.
Encourage the President to conduct serious, non-stop, high-level, high-priority, even-handed engagement and negotiation on the Palestinian issue (This step alone will restore much U.S. credibility in the Middle East).
Fix Medicare Part D to allow the government to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies.
Simplify Medicare Part D to eliminate the “donut hole” that so many seniors are and will get caught in (no time to explain, but you can Google it).
Raise the minimum wage.
Significantly reduce agricultural subsidies.
Commit to Kyoto to reduce green house emissions.
Fix our trade agreements to impose (over time) the same labor and environmental laws on our trade partners that American employers must adhere to.
Restore the rules for operating the Ethics Committee to they way they were before changing them for Tom Delay’s benefit (again, Google it).
Enforce immigration hiring laws on business.
Bring the budget into balance, even if it means letting Bush tax cuts expire.
Allocate money to alternative energy research.
Do not withhold federal funds for stem cell research of any kind.
Restore funding for the COPS program.
Enforce the FISA law requiring the President to get a warrant within three days after wiretapping an American citizen’s telephone.
Fix the anti-terrorism law just passed to provide the right of habeas corpus to persons arrested or held on charges of terrorism. This right does not protect guilty people; it protects innocent people. (This right has been the remedy of last resort for individuals unjustly detained by a government. All Americans should become experts on the writ of habeas corpus.)
Kill any bills to drill for oil in the Alaskan Arctic Reserve.
Kill any regressive federal sales tax bills (i.e. the so-called FairTax) which would actually be a tax increase for most Americans. Such a tax would also lead to either huge deficits or horrific cuts in things we take for granted like medical research, food safety, transportation safety, child safety, water supply safety, natural resource management, pension protections, law enforcement, student loan availability, prescription drug safety, infrastructure maintenance, etc.
I hope that’s enough to get you started big guy. There’s actually a lot more where that came from.
If time, I also want to get to your question about honest Democratic leaders later.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 13, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
The usual suspect GOP pillowbiters have finally arrived - Markanus, Andi/e, realisp and tftt/tommy, whining and moaning instead of fighting like their Chickenhawk-in-Chief would have them do.
Could you imagine being stuck in a foxhole with any or all of these quisling queenies? The stench of sheet and urine from them sheeting and peeing their pants in fear would be unbearable.
Fallujah, ladies, awaits your patriotic fervor.
By Van
October 13, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this
DebbytDoSomething,
I guess you are right, if Foley had been a democrat, he would not have quit, he would have gone to rehab and been reelected - no shame, no remorse, no nothing.
But, not the republican, instead of thumbing his nose at the world, he did the right thing and retired from the House. His activities were disgusting and wrong, but he left as a class act, something the democrats know nothing about.
BTW, why is getabrain posting as a girl - if dumbo-do-right isn’t getahalfabrain, I don’t know what then.
By GodHatesTrash
October 13, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this
It speaks volumes to the safety of our children that the filthy GOP voters amongst us fail to distinguish the difference between consensual adult sex and sex with minors. The morality of the typical red stater is essentially non-existent.
They are animals. Trash
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this
So basically all you care about is the politics of the person who got caught. Not the CHILD who was affected. Typical.
By Dusty
October 13, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight..
You lose. I don’t do Dallas. “Do” should have quotation marks since it is a slang expression for the loose and lowly. Therefore in your vocabulary.
I hope you are paid well for your liberal cleverness. You can twist with the wind. Calling Laura a murderer is like calling you a murderer of fact. An automobile accident is not murder and lying is not necessarily murder. But let us not quibble about semantics. You must get in your required number of quips today. Sorta sad though. You could be doing something worthwhile.
By peter
October 13, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
HA HA HA…….Rush factual analysis…….HA HA HA……that was a good one “BY TIME FOR THE TRUTH”……yes Rush….. this is the same guy who said, if you are caught with drugs you should go to jail……
Well……Except when he is caught with illegial perscription drugs……..hypocrisy at it’s worst…….but that is FAMILY VALUES!
I guess it is just OK the “bad things” the Republicans are doing, and they can just blame it on being an alchoholic!
There must be a bunch of drunks working for all the Republican based “non profit groups”……… ha ha ha……
So being drink is now a Republican “defense” for what they do, but only AFTER getting caught…….
So here we go again with all the Republican hipocrisy……….
I guess Republicans have failed to remember Ted Kennedy was drunk……..but WAIT!!!!!!!! that alabi ONLY works if you are a Republican, that actually got caught doing something bad…………..ha ha ha……..this site is really funny!
By Andy
October 13, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
Hey rednekkks, great name!:
I thought we were all for throwing down the American flag, cutting and running, why are you telling people to fight?
And what the hell would a pinko like you be doing in a foxhole?
You’re not making any sense.
Let’s get back to the surrendering to the cold blooded Islamic killer talk that I like so much.
By Van
October 13, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
DebbieDon’tdoRight
Just applying Democratic morals to the situation. I guess emails and IM’s are worse than having sex with a subordinate, whether an intern or an underage page.
By getalife
October 13, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this
Wrong as usual Van but to be expected from you.
BTW, why is getabrain posting as a girl - if dumbo-do-right isn’t getahalfabrain, I don’t know what then.
You don’t know what then, whatever that means.
Shees.
By Southern Democrat
October 13, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this
Dusty, I am somewhat baffled by your comments. I wholeheartedly agree with your characterization of the situation in Darfur as genocide and have actually read quite a bit on the topic (including attending lectures in New York and D.C. on Darfur and how it relates to Rwanda, Sierra Leone, and the Congo), so perhaps you misunderstood what I was saying.
Sudan is a country of mixed faiths but has a strong Muslim fundamentalist component (hence Bin Laden hiding out there before he went to Afghanistan). The current genocide is against ethnic groups made up of primarily followers of Islam. The Arab world, however, has said they will not get involved, thus my comment that this might be an opportunity to curry favor with moderate Muslims around the world. Perhaps you are confusing what’s going on now with the civil war that preceded the Darfur genocide?
Van is absolutely correct that the issue is complicated by Chinese and Russian interests in the oil and natural resources of Sudan and that makes our moral responsibility even stronger (in my opinion). We must defend the innocents who are being slaughtered like we failed to do in Rwanda. Clearly this is a natural extension of the “making the world safe for democracy” foreign policy that this Administration espouses, no?
The African Union forces are trying, nobly, to make a difference but are woefully underfunded, understaffed, and without a clear mandate. The U.N. resolution is great, but the U.S. needs to lead the Security Council to take action… if it starts a war with the Sudanese govt., so be it.
By getalife
October 13, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
Let’s get back to the surrendering to the cold blooded Islamic killer talk that I like so much.
I guess you have not read Baker’s plan. Looks like Murtha’s plan.
By Lucky Luke
October 13, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this
CJ
Do you mind me asking which candidate’s site you got those talking points from?
Also, can you detail where the budget for all those very expensive programs is going to come from? If from taxes, do you have any plans that will actually stimulate economic growth rather than suppress it, as the above plans and the taxes to pay for them most certainly will? I see no mention of Iraq and the fight against terrorism. I assume its abscent because as most of us already know democratic leadership will without question abandon our work in Iraq and on terror, just as you have in your post.
Essentially what you have suggested is the Clinton policy of the 90’s. We already went down that road and it led us astray, which is where we are today.
Do you have anything new that hasn’t already been tried and failed?
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 13, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this
Andi/e, it would do my American heart proud to see you ladies in uniform in Iraq. Imagine too, how wonderful it would be for America if one or all of you were blown to kingdom come over there, or better yet, hacked to death by Islamofascist machetes.
But, alas, due to your inbred cowardice, it will never happen.
Now, get back under your bed in your little pinafore, little Nancy Andi/e. It’s vewy scawy out here!
Boo!
Oooh, little Nancy Andi/e wet her widdle pants.
By the teacher
October 13, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this
It’s “sheesh” you ignorant a*ss
By Andy
October 13, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
The only F bomb that Babs needs to drop is the Flip Flop bomb, which Bush has been doing lately. He flipped flopped on Iran, N. Korea, and now Iraq.
He’s going to do as Murtha suggested, redeploy in Kurdistan, but he’ll call it something else and thus he’ll say he thought of it, like the low-down, lying, yellow-bellied piece of confederate trash he truly is.
Impeach Bush now and avoid the November rush!!!
FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP!!!
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this
BTW, why is getabrain posting as a girl - if dumbo-do-right isn’t getahalfabrain, I don’t know what then.
U don’t know what.
By GodHatesTrash
October 13, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this
You know, I’m against cruelty to animals, but it would be great sport to watch Islamic rednecks fighting American rednecks with their bare hands, or with knives or clubs. We could call it the Jihad Crusade Show, every week, take a thousand or so rednecks from the red states and the Middle East, and let them fight to the last redneck standing.
Heck, let’s give them vats of boiling oil so they can get really medeival on each other.
Trash, all. Here’s a possible use for them.
By Sonny's Due List
October 13, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this
Republican morality,….Right from the Sonny’s Due List. $100,000.00!
God Bless America.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this
Just applying Democratic morals to the situation.
Why not apply human dignity and respect for a child to the situation? POLITICS AT IT BEST.
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” — George W Bush, Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight..I hope you are paid well for your liberal cleverness. Calling Laura a murderer is like calling you a murderer of fact. An automobile accident is not murder and lying is not necessarily murder.
You guys can suuuure dish it out, (Kennedy was a murderer, remember Mary Jo!), but you just can’t take it can ya? BTW Dubya needs a refill.
By Van
October 13, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this
DebbieDumbo
Since you both post ignorant raves and rants, make little are no sense and seem to like being outside main stream America, I thought the two of you were the same.
Easy error to make, I didn’t think there were two bumkins so far left in this metro area.
My apologies getalife.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
Republican Morality:
“Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.” —Dubya to FEMA director Michael Brown, who resigned 10 days later amid criticism over his handling of the Hurricane Katrina debacle, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005
By The Sailor
October 13, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this
Andi/e and co. aren’t in the military - because camo can’t hide THE BIG YELLOW STRIPE down their backs.
That and those big cysts on their butts
Hey baby.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
Van: Weren’t you one of Liberace’s ex-lovers? I THOUGHT you were familiar!!
By Th
October 13, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this
Andy; Reynolds served his two plus year sentence on the sex charge and 2/3’s of his bank fraud sentence before Clinton commuted the last of his fraud sentence to a half-way house at the very end of Clinton’s term. I know you didn’t mean to mislead people into thinking Clinton pardoned him on the sex charge.
By getalife
October 13, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
Yes Van,
All the “goofy, out of contol, nuts” spew the same garbage.
BTW teach,
The “nuts” use sheesh and I do not want to be like those pervert lovers.
Shees.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this
Republican Morality……
“You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror.” —George W. Bush, interview with CBS News’ Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006
By Van
October 13, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight,
You sound a bit jealous. Anyway, he was before my time.
It is interesting that when you have no comeback, or brokeback, you resort to this type of jab -
And people talk about liberal stereotyping, I guess it is true.
By john
October 13, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this
to Andy: Andy, you brought up former congressman Mel Reynolds, who was caught having sex with a 16 year old girl and trying to on 15 year old (caught on tape). He started serving prison sentence but was pardoned by Clinton..Andy, here is the irony. He was hired at $60,000 a year by Jesse Jackson to work for Jackson’s Operation PUSH organization as a YOUTH COUNSELOR…Do you want your daughters being counseled by him? What does that say about Jackson, also?
By CBF
October 13, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this
Realist: That’s all well and good as long as they don’t preach morality
By Andy
October 13, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka’s Al Qaeda I October 13, 2006 02:11 PM Oooh, little Nancy Andi/e wet her widdle pants.
By The Sailor October 13, 2006 02:48 PM Andi/e and co. aren’t in the military - because camo can’t hide THE BIG YELLOW STRIPE down their backs.
I thought we were against gay watersports this week?
You two sure do have some weird Foley like notions going through your minds and quick with the male urine slanders!
How about it, anybody else in here want to admit to the blog that they obsess over men and golden showers?
By Van
October 13, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
Dear lefties,
Please explain something to me.
When we went into Iraq, the left claimed the President was “going it alone” and should engage other countries to help. When he calls for 6 way talks with North Korea, or as we like to call it, the future north parking lot, you complain that he should “go it alone” and hold 2 way talks with that little pimple.
When one President decided to bypass the UN, you were all for it, but when another President spends 14 months trying to rallying support in the UN, you critize him for “a rush to war”.
Before 9/11, the cry was, the President ” did not connect the dots” and today, he is accused of going overboard in gathering intelligence.
I guess, this President can do nothing right in your eyes. I guess being so far from mainstream has clouded your judgement and blinded you. How sad.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this
Van: Come back to what? THIS!??!!: Since you both post ignorant raves and rants, make little are no sense and seem to like being outside main stream America, I thought the two of you were the same. Easy error to make, I didn’t think there were two bumkins so far left in this metro area.
So you want me to respond to that drivel? OK…….here goes……..
My posts are making TOO much sense, that’s why you’re upset — if it was just rants and raves you wouldn’t even bother to respond. You know I’m telling the truth, you can’t refute it, so you try to pacify yourself with lies and blind yourself from the truth. You people are adept at pointing fingers, throwing rocks and hiding your hands. But when someone calls you out on your hypocrises, lies, bending of factual truths, and the rewriting of history, you want to holler “But The Democrats Did It TOOO….” Just like little billy in the playground. Grow Up. Open your eyes. Accept the truth. This country is in ruins because of the inept cretin you pushed into office and now you’re gonna “Stand By Your Man” no matter what. Right or wrong, you’re gonna go down with the sinking ship.
I’m outside of mainstream America? This country is closer now to civil strife, unrest and mass genocide, then it was in the 1800s before the Civil War.
“And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? / Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? / Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this
When we went into Iraq, the left claimed the President was “going it alone” and should engage other countries to help.
And we were right. How much money to date has the American Public spent in Iraq? Are we getting our monies worth?
By The Sailor
October 13, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
I thought we were against gay watersports this week?
That’s what we like about our Andie girl - she’ll go whatever (or whoever) way the wind blows…
No moral compass of her own.
By Captain Freedom
October 13, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this
The Captain is appalled to find another one, just like the objectively pro-terrorist Islam-coddling TFTT, yes, another pansy Brit kissing Osama’s backside…
Army chief: British troops must pull out of Iraq soon
General attacks government policy that has ‘exacerbated’ security risks
Richard Norton-Taylor and Tania Branigan Friday October 13, 2006 The Guardian
General Sir Richard Dannatt, the head of the army, dropped a political bombshell last night by saying that Britain must withdraw from Iraq “soon” or risk serious consequences for Iraqi and British society.
In a blistering attack on Tony Blair’s foreign policy, Gen Dannatt said the continuing military presence in Iraq was jeopardising British security and interests around the world. +++++
Damned cut-and-run Brits. The Captain refuses to ever eat an English Muffin again.
By Lyrazel
October 13, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this
Barbara has a temper tantrum and its important the world know but why? News bureaus are attaching too much importance to people who have long since left the building! Currently the new celebrity fashion accessory is a nubian baby—regardless of how many children in the US wait for adoptive parents. We the public must rush out to buy fashion-consciousness-AIDS-trendy IPod clothing or be ridiculed for being greedy by them who fly their obstetricians to Namibia.
Just got a promotional from Sonny Do and the flyer shows some dilapidated housing in some latin american country with the words: They are Coming! so one thing on Sonny’s Do list must be: hide the (white) women… seeing as how he has for years turned a blind eye when the GA business powers wanted cheap labor in GA… Maybe thats why GA has so many illegals??? Sonny Do know how campaign donations work—Another look at it includes an absentee ballot—not encouraging when he’s been a rally for ID vote programs, is it? Is an absentee ballot legal to throw away, Jim?
O yeah, Jim wrote: Our obligation is to make certain our allies, Japan and South Korea, aren’t left defenseless. Um, just who are they going to call up for duty? MARTA Rent-A-Cops?
By Dusty
October 13, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this
Southern Democrat,
Yes, I believe we both deplore the loss of life in Darfur now known as genocide. And you may be right that the Civil war came first and now Muslims are included in the genocide.
But I cannot see any chance of changing the course of the Sudanese government by talking to moderate Arab Muslims. I think that would be the proverbial effort in futility.
And I cannot agree with your last statement:”If it starts a war with the Sudanese government, so be it.” Democrats would be the first to condemn such an effort, with the exception of you.
No, I do not wish to start another war. I believe an all out war would kill more people than it would rescue. And those “moderate Muslims” you mentioned would turn against us and ally themselves with the Sudanese government.
As I do not now see an all out war by Muslims against terrorism, it is hard to believe that genocide in Darfur is a big problem for them. Perhaps those countries in the African Union might be considered Muslim countries. I don’t know.
The UN and the African Union are the best hope. They must apply the pressue and the force. I am not optimistic about the outcome of life in Darfur. Much of the world seems totally disinterested.
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
October 13, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this
By Andy October 13, 2006 03:09 PM How about it, anybody else in here want to admit to the blog that they obsess over men and golden showers?
We got our first volunteer:
By The Sailor October 13, 2006 03:22 PM I thought we were against gay watersports this week?
By the way, I know y’all love me but I don’t swing on no limb, that’s your bag.
Thanks anyway!
Remember, you’re the liberals. If you need help figuring this out, ask Wooten.
By Shoplift Canoli
October 13, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this
Impeach Bush now. Avoid the November Rush.
By john
October 13, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this
to Van: Here something somebody needs to explain to me. We all know Hillary Clinton voted FOR the war in Iraq. So her fans will probably say she was tricked by false information. Right? But wait, didn’t the Clintons always say they were a team? And her husband was president less than a year earlier from the WMD’s info being talked about. Therefore, she HAD access to any information and intelligence during the Clinton presidency. And up-to-date intelligence. So again, for all these folks who call Bush every name in the book, why do they excuse Hillary?
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
her husband was president less than a year earlier from the WMD’s info being talked about.
Which were disputed time and time again.
Therefore, she HAD access to any information and intelligence during the Clinton presidency.
Not necessarily. By law,only certain members with the correct security clearance, has access to certain classified documents. Just because someone is the wife of a powerful individual does not make them eligible to view classified documents.
So again, for all these folks who call Bush every name in the book, why do they excuse Hillary?
Excuse her for what? Voting for the war? A LOT of people thought that maybe, at that time, it was the best thing to do; but have since seen the opposite to be true.
By A.D.
October 13, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
I have spent more time than I want to confess in Africa. It is the most beautiful yet sad place on earth. The conditions the population lives will literally take your breath. If you think poor people in America have it bad go to the Sudan, Somolia or Djibouti. It is unreal. How Koffi Annin can advise anyone on how they should do anything is laughable. The Continent he is from is 50 years behind the rest of the world.
By john
October 13, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this
So inotherwords Debbie, are you trying to say Bill didn’t inform or give his advice or opinion to Hillary concerning the vote which would send troops to Iraq? You are just making excuses for Hillary. Bottom Line: She voted FOR the war. She had ample intelligence. Nobody put a gun to her head. She voted FOR it because at the time she wanted in (for her personal political benefits) on what would be perceived as an easy victory. NO EXCUSES ! Then again, you folks are still making excuses for LBJ who extended the American presence in VietNam from 12,000 to 550,000 soldiers. Trying to put ALL the blame on Nixon who came AFTER LBJ and JFK.
By MELO
October 13, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this
Darfur is a reason to have the United Nations. The United States has no strategic interest there. It has its hands full militarily elsewhere. The African Union and the United Nations are the powers to look to for troops and for solutions. We are not the world’s policeman
U have an A++ for this.If u had told Bush before he went to Iraq, America would be better for it, and maybe u would have a lot of money in your retirement, as a consultant or bestseller author. Now the rest of his term is going to be spend undoing what he did: the budget deficit,bringing stability to Iraq, talking to North Korea, mending fences with the rest of the world and bringing the White house to respectability and influence in the world again.
It takes eight years for BUSH TO GET IT!
By Southern Democrat
October 13, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
You are probably right regarding our inability to reach moderate Muslims… and you are absolutely right to keep me in check with my hastiness to advocate war; there would probably be unnecessary suffering of civilians.
It just breaks my heart, though, to think that after President Clinton promised the world “Never again” after Rwanda, we’re letting it happen within ten years.
I do believe in international organizations, but I also recognize that the “Blue Hats” stand a much better chance if they have the U.S. supporting them (like in the former Yugoslavia).
Also, it is areas like this (Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea) where frustrated, hungry youths are being brainwashed by fundamentalist Muslim whackos… so it IS in our best interest to try to stabilize the region… President Clinton’s failure of leadership during Somalia shouldn’t prevent us from being active in stabilizing East and Northern Africa.
By Translator
October 13, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this
Here’s what John is really trying to say:
Screeee! Hillary! Screeeeee! Hate her! Hate her! Hate her! Screeeeeee! HELP ME OUT HERE VAN! Screeeee! Be afraid of Hillary! She’s a Clinton! Blame a Clinton! Don’t look at the people currently in power! Don’t look at their lies and failures! IT’S FRIDAY FOR CRISSSAKES!
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
John what the heck r u talking about??!! This is what u inferred: Therefore, she HAD access to any information and intelligence during the Clinton presidency. And up-to-date intelligence.
This is what I said: Not necessarily. By law,only certain members with the correct security clearance, has access to certain classified documents. Just because someone is the wife of a powerful individual does not make them eligible to view classified documents.
Now, tell me how does that add up to: So inotherwords Debbie, are you trying to say Bill didn’t inform or give his advice or opinion to Hillary concerning the vote which would send troops to Iraq?
You spoke specifically about intelligence gathered during the Clinton presidency and whether Hillary, as his wife, would’ve had access to it. Where did that other stuff come from?
Dude, reading is fundamental.
By Dusty
October 13, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoLittle,
You do protest too loudly that your “posts are making too much sense”. Only to liberals, my friend. Conservatives are so accustomed to liberal excuses that even your cleverness cannot hide the mendacity of it all.
Tha fact that you will not recognize Hillary’s influence in the Clinton administration is laughable. As Clinton said himself, “You are getting two for one”. You are disputing your own Democratic president. But it doesn’t matter NOW, does it? Just say whatever suits the times. You’re a good Democrat, lil Debbie.
By Translator
October 13, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this
What Dusty is really trying to say:
Liberals love Hillary but they’re afraid to admit it. That’s why we hate liberals: HILLARY! Screeee! Screeee! Hillary is the anti-woman! She doesn’t bake cookies! Screeeee! It’s Friday: Time to HATE HILLARY! anyone who doesn’t hate Hillary is a sad pathetic, lousy excuse for a human being and should be hung, shot, and forced to look at Limbaugh’s butt-cyst. Screee! Screeee! BE AFRAID OF THE HILLARY LOVERS!
By john
October 13, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this
to A.D.: Only 50? I thought it might have been worse then that. to MELO: Good points. Also, hasn’t the left-extremists been telling us we can’t be the world’s policeman? So why is it ONLY up to Bush to save Darfur? They seem to be contradicting themselves again. BTW, if it is 400,000 dead in Darfur as the commercial says(I think its been more), thats still 300,000 less then Amnesty Intl. says Hussein killed in Iraq. Less then Cambodia when Carter was president. Less then Rwanda when Clinton was president. You see this commercial being shown now. I ask, where were the commercials when Clinton and Carter were presidents?…. Finally back to Debbie: Lets say you are right and Hillary was absolutely nieve of knowledge of Iraq and intelligence (which would be a joke in itself), then you would have to tell me why Bill Clinton, who did know the information there, NEVER objected, never screamed to high heaven, never criticized the policy then.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this
Dusty: Huh? U can’t read either? OK I’ll speak slllllooooooowwwwwllllyyyyyy. Here we go again. What I said was:
Not necessarily. By law,only certain members with the correct security clearance, has access to certain classified documents. Just because someone is the wife of a powerful individual does not make them eligible to view classified documents.
AND
You spoke specifically about intelligence gathered during the Clinton presidency and whether Hillary, as his wife, would’ve had access to it. Where did that other stuff come from?
How did this in anyway speak to the reference of Hillary influence in the Clinton White house. Are YOU saying that Clinton gave secret documents to his wife to review while in the white house? Can you prove this? Are u just making up history again as you Conservatives are so won’t to do?
By Dusty
October 13, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this
Southern Democrat,
I really think that the Bush Administration is doing more to stabilize North Africa than the governments of most countries.
Wasn’t the so called peace treaty in Sudan part of our efforts? Haven’t we spoken many times at the UN deploring conditions in Sudan and calling for stronger efforts? I think we have. But the question still remains “What more can we do without going to war?”
Glad to discuss this with you. Hope we will see improvement in Sudan in the near future.
By Translator
October 13, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
What John is really trying to say:
Well when WE say it, we’re right, but if YOU say the same thing, then um.. well, YOUR wrong, and flip flop NO I mean we ARE the world’s policemen, wait… NO, is there oil there? Wait…. CLINTON DID IT! CLINTON DID IT! I’m so confused. Please hold me!
By Dusty
October 13, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
Translator,
Don’t even try to speak for me. Speak for yourself.
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this
Finally back to Debbie: Lets say you are right and Hillary was absolutely nieve of knowledge of Iraq and intelligence (which would be a joke in itself), then you would have to tell me why Bill Clinton, who did know the information there, NEVER objected, never screamed to high heaven, never criticized the policy then.
History 101: Clinton had at first tried to take the high road and to NEVER criticize the sitting president. He always tried to deflect ANY attempts by Fox Network and their ilk to publicly decry Bush or his policies. BUT with the recent advent of the Conserv-A-Trons rewriting history and forgetting Clinton’s anti-terror efforts in the white house, he has taken to defending himself and his administration.
Don’t believe me. Look on the web, go back to 2002 when this mess started happening and if you can find ONE QUOTE of Clinton bashing Bush or his decision on the war, then post it.
Now if he told Hillary privately, “That George Dubya is a real jack a##”, I wouldn’t know.
By john
October 13, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this
to Translator and Debbie: I’m asking very good questions. Since there tough for you folks to answer, because it takes the ‘halo’ away from your hero’s, you make personal insulting remarks towards the person asking the question. Unfortunately, a typical leftist reply in these times……BTW, even if Hillary didn’t have the intelligence, which I don’t believe, could you explain why President Clinton, who HAD all the intelligence and knowledge of that region and nation, NEVER opened his mouth to criticize Bush back then. Why? You think he would for the good of the country. Right?
By DebbieDoRight
October 13, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this
OK folks my plane has landed. DebbieDoRight is in the big bad liberal Cali going to see her hubby, DudleyDoRight. Oh, and I’m also going to visit some of my liberal media homosexual and lesbian friends while I’m here.
Van Nessa: If any of my homosexual friends (male) do anything aberrant, I’ll let you know.
Twisted Truth: If any of my lesbian friends get busy this weekend, I’ll take pictures for you, girlfriend.
As the great presidential leader of our geneation George Dubya used to say “Where’s the bar?!!” Outtie.
C U
By Translator
October 13, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this
What John is really trying to say:
I’d love to discuss current issues (well, not really) but I just can’t stop thinking about Clinton! DARN that Clinton! It’s Bush that I love! Leave my head! Aaaaaaaaahhhhh!
By CJ
October 13, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
Responding to LuckyLuke @2:10 Before answering your questions, we need to review the smart questions from Realist earlier today:
Realist @10:19 “I can’t seem to find any information on anyone from the left who has any new ideas or seems to be capable of doing any better than the current administration. Anyone can throw cold water and criticize; I’m looking for new ideas and something better. Can you point us in the direction of who that might be?”
JK @11:14 “Are you in the 7th district? If so, here are the websites of your Congressional choices…”
Realist @11:16 “The time has come to not just yell from the stands but to strap on a helmet and go in the game. So what’s the game plan? I haven’t heard one whatsoever.”
Realist @11:29 “*We aren’t talking districts here sweetcheeks JK…We are talking the presidency. You know, the man and his administration *”
Mr. Luck,
When you see Realist, you might want to tell your friend that this is a mid-term election year. The next presidential election is still a couple of years away.
Answering your question about which candidates sites I found the talking points on, the answer is none. These are my ideas. I did not get them from any website. However, my opinions are consistent with much of what Democratic candidates espouse (which is the reason I vote for the Democrats).
If you want some links, you can start by going to Democrats.org and clicking on the Agenda link. You can also find a PDF link on the Our Party page which provides the party platform. Much of the information on these pages overlaps with some of what I’ve said. Also, even though Realist refuses to go to the website of the Democratic candidate in his district, that doesn’t mean you can’t go to the site of the candidate in yours.
Also, you said you see no mention of Iraq and the fight against terrorism in my post. Perhaps you should re-read it. There were several points about terrorism (9/11 recommendations, North Korea, Soviet loose nukes, habeas corpus, military contracts, energy independence, etc.).
However, you are correct in that I did not mention Iraq directly, although a couple of my points address it indirectly. I have to hand it to you L-squared, you sure set the bar high. I gave Realist a 20-plus point answer, and now you come along complaining about the fact that I left something out. I’m sure I indicated to Realist that the list was incomplete.
However, since you’re so observant, I’ll explain why I didn’t mention Iraq directly. Democrats have lots of differing ideas: Hillary Clinton wants to stay in for now, Murtha wants to pull at fast, Biden wants to divide the country into three independent regions (Kurdish north, Sunni center, Shiia south). Personally, I don’t know what the f—- to do. So, I left it out. Maybe you can contact your candidate and ask him what he thinks.
You asked how are we going to pay for everything? I think the only additional spending I proposed had to do with homeland security (including investing in alternative energy) and law enforcement. Maybe you have a problem with that. Also, I think the question of financing government programs is a better addressed with the Republicans who continue to run up our national debt each year.
Having said that, I did address your financing question in my original post. Remember the points about letting the Bush tax cuts expire, cutting agricultural subsidies, fixing Medicare Part D to allow negotiations for lower prices, allowing bidding on military contracts to reduce costs? I think that’s a good beginning, but you’re clearly not easy to please.
Are you just as tough on the Republican candidates Mr. Luck? Or, are you like the rest of these guys who don’t care about innocent Iraqis, deficit spending, nuclear proliferation, homeland security, deficits, government waste, growing the middle class and corruption like they claim?
Actually, I think the only issue you care about is tax cuts. You care about your wallet more than you care about your own kids (if you have any), nieces, nephews or any of their kids, don’t you? I know you Mr. Luck. You’re just as greedy as your so-called conservative friends.
Finally, you wrote that my list was a rehash of the Clinton policies of the 90’s that were tried and failed. Now you’re just grasping at straws.
By Reminder
October 13, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this
Our government spent about $3 million investigating 9-11. (It might have been more, but Bush & Cheney were vehemently against the investigation, the committee, the report, or testifying themselves.) Our government spent over $70 million investigating Clinton, turning over every rock in every trailer park, looking for any frustrated girl who might have been offended, grilling players in a real estate deal on which he LOST money, and examining every check the Clintons ever wrote for a loaf of bread… before coming up with a stained dress and gentlemanly denial. THAT’S IT? THAT’S ALL THEY GOT FOR $70 MIL? Yep.
So America believes: Prosecuting Clinton was at least 23 TIMES MORE IMPORTANT than protecting America from Osama(R-Saudi at Large)
Just so you know.
By The Sailor
October 13, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
Andi/e is a little chunky, a gal with some meat on her bones. S/he likes to dress up in a cheap GAP dress and play “yes Mr. President” with me. All I have to do is shuck and jive like an Arkansas hillbilly, and drop my drawers.
But let me tell you one damn thing - there are no spots on Andi/e’s dress - no sir!
By Camus
October 13, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this
Regarding Hillary Clinton…
Many Democrats are deeply conflicted about her finger-in-the-wind approach to policy, foreign and domestic. Her support of the Iraq invasion was too cute by half, and for many Democrats, this issue alone is enough to disqualify her for consideration as President (especially since she has not come forward to repudiate her earlier decision). Add to that her pandering to the right with her video game rating proposals and other such ‘culture’ issues, and many feel she is not a liberal at all.
Personally, I find much to admire about her, and much to be very distrustful about. Much like her husband. Or from the other team, like Nixon.
As to why she bothers pandering to the right, go figure. There is nothing she could do that would win her any tangible support from the right. The minds are made up on the Senator from NY, and the likelihood of her becoming the Dem nominee for President is just about non-existent.
But, given my own misgivings about her, the only visible Republican I would consider voting for against her is Colin Powell.
But hey, righties…. who is YOUR pick for prez in ‘08. Name your nominee that has no skeletons and will boldly lead us out of the mess created by the Worst. Administration. Ever.
By Andy
October 13, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
By The Sailor October 13, 2006 05:35 PM Andi/e is a little chunky, a gal with some meat on her bones.
Ah, isn’t that cute, I got me a little homosexual admirer. You liberals come up with the weirdest ideas on what to do with your wee wees, but you do spend so much time gazing at them.
Problem is, I’m a Conservative so there is no plan with no man.
Hate to break your que-er bait little heart, really I am.
But you should get up with Trash or Al Qaeda’s Concubine if you’re looking for the cornhole, you freak.
By NeverGoLeft
October 13, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
Thank You!!! Debbie Do Right has finally left the building!!! Pretty scarry that she has nothing better to do all day (from 8:07 am to 4:50 pm) that sit on her ^!# !@@ and blog.
By dream candidate
October 13, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this
Camus,
George Allen and Bill Frist are talking about running for president. I like both of them. But if I had my druthers, Governor Bush would be our next president. Either him or baby-brother Neil.
By Freudian Slips
October 14, 2006 08:45 AM | Link to this
Iraq
Apparently, we have installed a government, freely elected by Iraqis, who have no jurisdiction beyond the green zone bubble that our army provides. 99% of Iraq is now foreign territory to that bubble government.
Our army, in the middle of a religious war, can not choose which side to shoot at. They are all Iraqis. They are all represented by fairly elected Iraqis in the green zone.
The enemy, logically can only be the foreign nationals who filtered through our lines into Iraq and who pick random Iraqi and US targets for IEDs and ambushes. They are a relative handful compared to the 30 million Iraqis who fall on a spectrum of civil unrest: from pundits for and against the US to weekend terrorist/insurgents to full time sectarian combatants fighting all out war 24/7 365.
There can be no military solution for such a complex situation. The only chance the USA has to win there, is if the civil war ends and the combatants decide that they will share Iraq in peace and harmony and settle their difference in the legislature that they just elected. Is there one person who thinks that is still possible? (besides cheney, rumsfeld, W, or ann coulter)
One man’s life can make a difference. It matters. It’s a reality check for Americans to determine just what Bush is doing and why, and for whom? Is Bush conforming to foreign interests? Is there a foreign company with a vital historical interest in Iraq? Lets see, we have to go back to Churchill’s invasion of Iraq for that same company. ANd we have to know what company was in Iraq during WW2 and in the fifties, sixties, and seventies, until Saddam Hussein was installed by the CIA to rule Iraq. Gee, no company comes to mind. I cant think of anyone. Drawing a blank here. Could it be…….BP OIL???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Suddenly everything Tony Blair has said and done makes perfect sense. What doesn’t make sense is the idea that the Iraqis can be more succesful at suppressing the insurgency than we are. So what if they stand up and we stand down. We cant stop the terrorism/insurgency/civil war with the best army in the world. How can the Iraqi Army stop it? ever?
Logic, people. Logic.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this
Freudian Slips,
Your pessimistic argument just might be viewed more credibly if you didn’t veer into moonbat view that ‘Tony Blair and his puppet Bush are controlled by BP Oil’ scenario.
If you’re looking for Big Conspiracy Theories, how about Iran using the Mahdi Army as its proxy to foment sectarian violence? What does BP Oil have to do with that?
Instead of trying to appease his followers, we should have gotten rid of Al Sadr when he murdered the Sunni Cleric. Evil cannot be appeased.
By Van
October 14, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Amen to that brother, appeasement has gotten us nowhere - anytime it has been tried.
My big question is why the Iraq government has not stepped up to disband and disarm all the private militias and arrest their leaders.
By time for the truth
October 14, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this
If you despise sick Willie Clinton, which ALL normal folks do, watch this - its the second one of two and is genuinely hysterically funny. The first one is quite funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYteTbo2BAY
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Van,
My favorite historical appeasement analogy with the Muslim world is the Barbary Pirates. A dangerous precedent was set.
In 1784, the United States Congress allocated money for payment of tribute to the pirates…Then-ambassador to France Thomas Jefferson argued that conceding the ransom would only encourage more attacks. His objections fell on the deaf ears of an inexperienced American government too riven with domestic discord to make a strong show of force overseas…Jefferson continued to argue for cessation of the tribute, with rising support from George Washington and others. With the recommissioning of the American navy in 1794 and the resulting increased firepower on the seas, it became more and more possible for America to say “no”, although by now the long-standing habit of tribute was hard to overturn.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this
TFTT,
Well that video is a bit unfair to Paula Jones! Didn’t Billy Jeff pardon Marc Rich on the last day in office? Where’s the video with BJ and Denise noodling at the Clinton Library?
By Markus
October 14, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
Interesting points Danish. The Muslopirates were formitable foes back then. Kinda makes you wonder what happened to them since and why they didn’t advance further. More specifically, why they reverted to living in 3rd world, or even more specifically, wanting to live in the 12th Century.
Today of course these islamofascist bastards are just using our technology against us and wanting to destroy the entire Western civilization. But naturally, appeasers that live in some Utopian alter-world like Pelosi think that we can just “talk” with these animals and live in peace. Nausiating.
By time for the truth
October 14, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this
Danish
Yes it is a bit unfair - but its still very funny. The first one is poor, although perfectly shows how boorish the alBore is.
By Shoplift Canoli
October 14, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
The long national nightmare will soon be over. November will bring some relief from the American Taliban’s (christian right) hold on our country. And time will rid us of the worst traitor since Benedict Arnold: W.
After the elections, the right will reposition it’s Iraq spin to mimic Murtha’s. They will call for a withdrawal, a timetable, and a redeployment.
Bush will talk about getting the global stamp of approval that Kerry mentioned and was lambasted for.
Bush will flip flop and brag about how flexible he is.
Swift boat? No, but surely a swift boot in the a*ss would do W just fine.
The long national nightmare is nearly over.
By Markus
October 14, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this
No hurricanes all year, western NY gets a record 2’ of snow for this time of year dumped on it, and it was 41 degrees when I woke up this morning. Boy, I sure am glad the AlGore and his radical leftist earth nazis are out there telling us all about global warming and the consequences.
By getalife
October 14, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
I smell urine and fear up in here.
What a disgusting group of cowards.
Real Americans are not scared like you cowards.
Pathetic!
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this
The long national nightmare is nearly over.
Are we booting Polly Prepuce off the blog in November? Cool!
Why does “Paula” in that video look just like Monica? They should have shown Billy Jeff with a cash register ringing up the sale of pardons.
By Andy
October 14, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Urinal and Constipation hating on American soldiers:
Reported abuses at Gitmo to be investigated
And:
A British coroner ruled U.S. soldiers unlawfully killed a British TV journalist during the invasion of Iraq in March 2003. Coroner Andrew Walker said he would seek prosecution of the U.S. soldiers responsible for the killing of Terry Lloyd, 50, a reporter for British television network ITN, near Basra.
confirms the suspicion that US soldiers implicated in the killing of journalists and media staff have been acting with impunity.
U.S. soldiers acted with impunity, why what do they think this is, a war zone??
The Atlanta Urinal and Constipation hating on homosexuals:
Trip with pages scrutinized Arizona lawmaker led Grand Canyon rafting party
The Atlanta Urinal and Constipation hating on the economy:
A stock market bear hug prevented the Dow Jones industrial average from closing above 12,000 on Friday, thanks to some disappointing corporate earnings news.
The Atlanta Urinal and Constipation hating on Sport Utility Vehicles (SUV for all you pinko liberals):
COBB COUNTY: Kennesaw man dies in SUV collision-An 86-year-old Kennesaw man was killed Friday when a sport utility vehicle crossed the center line and struck his Toyota Corolla, police said
Good thing it wasn’t an AJC delivery van, then we would have had to search for some other news to print in it’s place.
Queen Pinko, Cynthia Tucker hating on fair, legal elections limited to citizens of the United States:
According to USA Today, a preliminary report commissioned by the U.S. Election Commission has found little evidence of the sort of fraud that the burdensome new regulations purport to prevent.
Meanwhile, on Earth:
A major 2001 voter-registration drive in St. Louis’ black community produced 3,800 new voter cards. When some of the names appeared suspicious, elections officials investigated all of the cards and determined that nearly every single one was fraudulent. Dogs, the dead and people who simply didn’t want to register were among the new registrants….. The potential for fraud exists also. The Cato Institute’s John Samples, testifying before the Senate Rules Committee in 2001 on another matter, noted that while Alaska has 503,000 people on its voter rolls, there are only 437,000 people of voting age in the state.
Hey AJC, stick it up your…
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Try washing up before you blog and that odor will go away.
By Markus
October 14, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
Uh oh. China and Russia are still having cold feet over voting for UN sanctions on North Korea, primarily because they still don’t like the provision that would allow military enforcement if needed.
Well, what are the liberals b!tching about? We are dealing with North Korea just like they would: diplomatically. So if Russia and China are nitpicking some details they don’t like in the UN charter, we must wait on them to get their crap together. We can’t go it alone ya know.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this
Marcus,
12th Century? That’s way too advanced. I keep reading “5th or 6th”.
Polly P,
I hear you love the smell of vaporub in the morning. Kinda ruins the atmosphere when you’ve spent all that time getting in the mood with Fabio.
By reality check
October 14, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this
That Lancet study concluding 654,000 Iraqis have been killed since the US invasion? The one Bush says is ridiculous because it’s “methodology” (who taought him that word?) is flawed?
Maybe it’s not.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
Marcus,
One other thing I like about the Barbary Wars story is that Jefferson “informed Congress” that we were going to War.
By Sell Swedish
October 14, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
The important point to consider when determining the future of our occupation in Iraq is exactly what is the reality on the ground in Baghdad. Just who is the enemy? Our generals know, and they are saying “cut and run, flip flop, get a global seal of approval for any future moves, and we’ll fight them anywhere but there”.
It’s over. We lost the bid to make Iraq Uncle Sam’s mini-me. It was a stupid idea, and could never exist in a real world situation of the complex realities that segregate the population in Baghdad.
The fact is, that we can spend a trillion dollars and stay ten years, and the situation then will be the situation today. Or we can cut and run now, and the situation ten years from now will be the situation today.
It doesn’t matter if we stay or leave anymore. the civil war will evolve independently of US involvement. If we leave now, the Iraqi army will split into the civil war’s two sides. If we stay, the Iraqi army will be this giant time bomb, without a head, that will explode at the worst possible moment against the US and whatever Iraqi government is in place.
History proves you cant just raise an army without an sense of allegience to a strong national history. Otherwise, that same army will turn on itself and the government, especially if there are foreign influences.
The only move we have left is to admit that we succeeded in the original mission: To depose saddam, and destroy the wmds, and then cut and run.
Redeploy the troops to the independent country of Kurdistan now.
The Right says that Iran will invade Iraq if we cut and run. GOOD! Let them. Let Iraq be their Vietnam. It will bleed them dry like it’s bleeding us dry. Let Iran have Iraq and see how long they put up with it.
Obviously nobody can occupy Iraq successfully. Let them fight it out, and when there is a military stalemate, we can negotiate a Iraq State that the population will adhere to, but only after they’ve exhausted all the military options that they can think of, which is the natural evolution of any country and any population.
By Markus
October 14, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
John F’n Kerry off his rocker again. Now he’s saying it’s “Bush’s bomb” with regards to North Korea. Someone needs to remind that filthy liberal Democrit RAT that NK has been trying to obtain nukes since before Clintoon. The Clintoon “agreement” was never intended to be met by NK. Only Democrits like Jimmy Carter trust communist dictatorships. Who can forget Madeleiene notsoAlbright meeting up with the little man with the little man syndrom in North Korea. We should all be so lucky to live like those in North Korea, Venezuela, and Cuba… at least that’s what the neomarxist liberals liek Cindy Sheeplehead tell us. Hell, at least everyone’s EQUAL there, right? Idiots.
By K-Mehl
October 14, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
Some are calling me the head Republican but I like bush in that role.
Kenny(likes)BoyII
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
Markus,
Try keeping up with moonbat strategy.
We are dealing multilaterally with North Korea, so obviously the right thing to do is cut everyone else out and deal with Lil’ Kim alone. Unless, of course, we were to do that. In that case cowboy Bush would be acting unilaterally and making the world a dangerous place unlike the peaceful utopia we had when Billy Jeff was molesting the help.
By @@
October 14, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this
Jim: I, too am finding liberals to be the less tolerant group.
At $725 a ticket, the protester had every right to request what she paid for and it wasn’t Ms. Streisand’s political opinion.
Ms. Streisand, being the one pulling on the audience member’s purse strings could have easily offered the individual a refund and an escort from the building. The only thing it was costing Barbra was her time, and she should have taken some of that to think about a reasonable solution rather than offering a typical leftist knee-jerk reaction by dropping the “F” bomb.
Hillary did that too didn’t she? I remember someone was heckling her during a speech and she told them to SFTU. I may be wrong. If I am, somebody will let me know, I’m sure of that.
Solutions require patience and thought. Something that the radical left is short of these days. Is it any wonder why the right appears to be so radical in their response?
Compromise on domestic issues doesn’t come with an extravagant price tag. It’s free for the sacrifice.
By Markus
October 14, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this
Poor poor gitmolife… got her pink satin nightgown all in a static wad because cons are on a blog. She can’t stand it. Just like I said yesterday, liberals are oh so tolerant, right up until they come across someone they don’t agree with. Then they try to out shout them, shut them up, or try to discredit them publicly in the hopes they’ll leave. Dirty RATs.
Liberalism - indoctrinating one unused mind at a time
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this
Rebellion leaders sentenced to life
{Shining Path founder Abimael Guzman, whose messianic communist vision inspired a 12-year rebellion in Peru that cost nearly 70,000 lives, was found guilty Friday of aggravated terrorism and sentenced to life in prison. The 71-year-old former philosophy professor’s longtime lover and second-in-command Elena Iparraguirre, also received a life sentence after a yearlong civilian retrial}(http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2006/10/14/natworld1014a.html)
Perfect. Communist Professor and mass murdering tyrant wrapping everything up in a pretty name like “shining path”.
Ward Churchill and Cindy Sheehan are probably in mourning. Maybe she’ll get that Nobel Prize as a sympathy vote.
By Andy
October 14, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this
By reality check October 14, 2006 12:10 PM That Lancet study concluding 654,000 Iraqis have been killed since the US invasion? The one Bush says is ridiculous because it’s “methodology” (who {{{{taought-(same people that “taught” YOU how to spell, retard)}}}} him that word?) is flawed?
So the Al Qaeda killers of innocent DEFENSELESS women and children are even more proficient than previously thought?
I’m happy to see that this knowledge causes you great excitement.
Maybe Al Qaeda can step up it’s pace in the killing of innocent DEFENSELESS women and children and you would have a million corpses to drag through the street in your morbid little parade.
Imagine that!!
You freaking POS little ghoul, bloodsucker.
By Markus
October 14, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this
Thanks for that link to the St. Louis scandal Andy. Dogs voting? And I thought dead people voting was as low as the Democrit jackasses could go in voter fraud.
By getalife
October 14, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this
No macaca,
I am all for the freedom of speech.
Unlike the cowards who take away freedom in the name of security.
The gop can’t protect the children in their own house but idiots like you allow them to steal our freedoms and think they will protect you. Millions of great Americans have fought and died to protect our freedoms.
Failed Americans.
By Markus
October 14, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this
Hey reality flake:
It appears you assbandits on the left can’t BACK UP your figures of 655,000 dead in Iraq. Just another example of LIES from the left meant to be said often enough and long enough to where they’ll eventually be believed to be the truth. Go figure.
By getalife
October 14, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this
macaca,
And you believe w with the 30,000.
How in the world do you idiots believe anything they spew is way beyond me.
By Markus
October 14, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this
How liberals like gitmolife think:
If we go after islamofascist terrorists, we are just “scared” of them or “fear” them. If we don’t go after islamofascist terrorists and they attack us, we didn’t “do enough to stop them.”
This is the kind of mentality/leadership the party of the JACKASS, the Democrits, represents. I’m sorry you pathetic panty sniffers on the left, no $ale here.
By Van and Logic = Oil and Water
October 14, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this
Van @10:43 “…appeasement has gotten us nowhere - anytime it has been tried.”
Hey,
Mr. “Appeasement Has Gotten Us Nowhere”,
Are you familiar with the Cuban Missile Crisis? I guess you agree with General LeMay that giving up the missiles in Turkey to resolve the crisis was an embarrasing defeat. Full-scale nuclear war would have been preferrable.
I suspect that you also agree that when it comes to dealing with Iran and North Korea, no option is off the table - except of course, talking. Again, full-scale war on the Korean Peninsula is no problem, but for God’s sake, do not talk to the guys.
By the way, if you read the link generously provided by Buy Danish, expert on all things (thanks to wikipedia), you would have noticed that Jefferson paid a ransom as part of the peace treaty. General Eaton, Jefferson’s own version of LeMay, thought it an embarrassment at the time.
Finally, Mr. AHGUN, you might also have noticed that when that war was completed, the Barbary States continued to provoke the U.S. for years. Unfortunately, we were incapable of responding (except to pay more ransom) because we were too busy fighting a war someplace else. Does that situation sound familiar?
Cherry pickers.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this
Of course in the real world you gather listeners and sell ads to stay on the air
It’s hilarious that you have to run scams and shell games just to keep liberals on the radio when it’s obvious nobody wants to listen to them.
By Markus
October 14, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this
Hey gitmolife-
None of my freedoms have been taken away. I can do the same thing now that I could during the Clintoon administration and even MORE so… like own assault rifles and get a tax break for my SUV for a small business on the side. I know both of those freedoms gets you backyard laundry thiefs on the left all panty-tied.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
getaclue,
What difference does it make what number of deaths there are in Iraq? What number do you pick before you surrender yourself to Osama’s dream of a world wide caliphate?
I would think that if the larger number is anywhere near accuate you would see just how dangerous it is to leave them to gather strength. And your doddering old grandfather isn’t going to fix anything by hiding our troops in Okinawa either.
By reality check
October 14, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this
Markus - the story from the Columbia Journalism Review I posted earlier shows that the study estimating Iraqi deaths since the US invasion at 600,000 plus is well within any reasonable margin of error. Did you read it?
Andy - whether the number in the study is right or wrong, one thing is clear. Al Qieda isn’t behind the killings. It’s Iraqis killing Iraqis. Baghdad, the White House and the Pentagon all say as much when they mention civil war.
It’s likely that the militas are getting guns and cash from Iran and Saudi Arabia, but they aren’t Al Qieda either.
By Markus
October 14, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this
Gitmolife-
I sure as hell don’t believe an anti-Bush media that can’t BACK UP WHAT THE HELL IT REPORTED.
“Un-named sources said…”
“An anonymous source said…”
“A spokesperson who declined to be named said…”
“655,000 Iraqis dead, but we don’t have an official body count…”
Yeah, and bigfoot was caught last week. Please, save this anti-Bush bullsheet for the checkout stand tabloids. Human waste.
By getalife
October 14, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
It is useless arguing with ignorance.
Living in la, la land and not facing reality is your world.
By Andy
October 14, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this
By reality check October 14, 2006 12:59 PM Andy - whether the number in the study is right or wrong, one thing is clear. Al Qieda isn’t behind the killings. It’s Iraqis killing Iraqis.
Really, isn’t that convenient, little bloodsucking ghoul?:
Al Qaeda in Iraq was blamed for brazen terrorist attacks, including a 2003 suicide bombing of U.N. headquarters in Baghdad that killed the U.N. envoy to Iraq and 21 others, and the November bombing of three hotels in Amman, Jordan, in which 60 people died.
February 28: A car bomb killed 125 people outside a clinic in Hillah in the deadliest single insurgent attack. Check out the list of 50 bombings they take credit for.
In Iraq, four suicide bombers again struck in Baghdad, killing 31 and bringing the two-day death toll to 200, as al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al- Zarqawi sought to inflame the ethnic and religious divisions between Sunni and Shiite Arabs.
Need more, ghoulie?
By Markus
October 14, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this
Yeah reality flake-
I read your propoganda BS. Here, try this one:
“The researchers spoke to 1,850 families living in 40 clusters around the country. The majority of deaths were reported after the invasion. The final total is achieved by extrapolation. But reliable data is difficult to obtain in Iraq, due to the dangerous conditions in the country. The Iraqi government puts the official death toll at around 40,000.”
Woah! They went to some huts, asked questions, and scaled up the numbers! IT’S GOTTA BE TRUE!
There are lies, damn lies, and then extrapolation.
By Andy
October 14, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this
By getalife October 14, 2006 01:17 PM It is useless arguing with ignorance.
I totally agree, your morbid despondent little political party is reduced to dragging the corpses of innocent DEFENSELESS women and children through the streets in hopes of gaining a few votes in a mid term election.
And endangering the lives of more innocent DEFENSELESS women and children by cheering on their killers.
It doesn’t get any more ignorant than that.
By Markus
October 14, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this
All my conservative friends, enjoy your Saturday. I’m off to enjoy a new big honkin’ gas guzzlin’ SUV. Big middle finger to the little liberals in their Accords beneath me with their “F.. The President” stickers (a RAT copy of the “W” stickers)… dumb@ss liberals can’t even come up with their own original idea, they have to hijack their opponent’s design like good little communist trash.
By Andy
October 14, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this
Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck!
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this
Thank You!!! Debbie Do Right has finally left the building!!! Pretty scarry that she has nothing better to do all day (from 8:07 am to 4:50 pm) that sit on her ^!# !@@ and blog.
Immmm BAAAAACCCKKKK!!!!
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
Unbelievably this is a FRONT PAGE Washington Post story
This is how stupid Democrats think voters are.
AUBURN, N.Y. — Maybe Democratic candidate Michael Arcuri is running strong in this Republican House district because he pledges to expand health coverage, balance the budget and raise the minimum wage.
Or maybe it’s his piercing Italian eyes and runner’s physique.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this
Hiya folks!! I’m REAL surprised to see some of you here today! I heard it’s beautiful in Atlanta today, (I’m in California visiting my hubby at Ft. Ord), and you guys, notably Van Nessa and her choir girls, are sitting around on a computer!?! Wow!!! You guys must have an intersting life…….
To all you moaning about doing all the “talking” to N. Korea and no “action”:
WANTED: Some REAL men age 18-65 to join today!!! Uncle Sam Needs You Now!! Join the Military and see the world!!! Get off the farm, get out of cyberspace, and PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!! You want action?!? Well ACT!!!
My husband, brother, uncle, brother-in-law, and sister-in-law, are in the military serving their country while people like Van Nessa are sitting around moaning about action, while not a drop of her lily white blood will be spilled during this “action” — Van Nessa, buy a clue!!!
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this
Or maybe it’s his piercing Italian eyes and runner’s physique.
OOOOo RW, didn’t know you noticed…..have I got the perfect guy for you!!
By RW (the aboriginal)
October 14, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this
Winston Churchill switched the navy’s ship from coal to oil in 1910. BP oil company was born. Their oil wildcatting target: Iraq and Iran.
Churchill addressed parliament in 1920 and said that Britain would occupy Iraq and establish and support a government there that will take responsibility over time to stand on it’s own. Then, he said, Britain will always have a friendly country in the middle east.
Then the Kurds and Arabs there started an uprising. Churchill used the RAF to bomb the villages and tribes into submission.
Britain occupied Iraq from 1920 to 1932 at a cost of 20K casualties. There’s no record of how many Iraqis died during the occupation.
The british set up the Sunni minority in Iraq to control Iraq and the Sunnis ruled Iraq till 2003.
The Shia been waitin’ a LONG TIME to get even, as they are the country’s natural majority and deserved representation all those years. They got none. Oh, they’re getting it now.
Impeach Bush, who has a bust of Churchill in the oval office, and who studied Churchill for years, stole all of the “stand down when they stand up” horsesheeyit from Winston himself.
Try to google Churchhill’s Iraq occupation of try to find the origins of the BP Oil Company (Royal Burmah Oil Company) on the internet. Its very difficult. Our government has effectively erased any easy references to the British occupation of Iraq in the 1920’s.
Those who ignore or erase history, are doomed to repeat it. Will 20K US troops deaths be enough for Cheney? Will 12 years of unsuccessful occupation and trillions of dollars be enough for Rove?
There’s reports that Churchill ordered the gassing of the Kurdish uprising, but there’s no confirmation or evidence. the technology to gas by air wasn’t there in 1922. But he encouraged poison gas as a weapon against civilians because he said that “Everyone’s doing it”. (True!)
By getalife
October 14, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this
U.S. seeks luxury ban ‘to put Kim Jong Il on a diet’
Yeah, that will stop him.
Hilarious.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this
Van and Logic,
Listen snot-nosed little dumba$$ - I would have to know about the Barbary Wars to look it up in Wiki now wouldn’t I?
Yes Jefferson paid a $60,000 “ransom” and some people were outraged about that capitulation. At least they weren’t still paying a million dollars a year as they had for 15 years - Payments in ransom and tribute to the privateering states amounted to 20 percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800
Here’s what happened eventually after the War of 1812 was settled -
Decatur and Bainbridge used the pirates’ tactics against them. Taking hundreds of prisoners in an attack on Algiers, Decatur bargained for a treaty releasing the United States from any tribute obligations in perpetuity, as well as $10,000 in reparations for damages to the US. By June 30, 1815 the treaty was signed and the threat of Barbary pirates to American vessels was at an end.
No sooner had Decatur set off for Tunis to enforce a similar agreement than the Dey repudiated the treaty. The next year, an Anglo-Dutch fleet, commanded by British admiral Viscount Exmouth, delivered a punishing, nine-hour bombardment of Algiers. The attack immobilized many of the dey’s corsairs and obtained from him a second treaty that reaffirmed the conditions imposed by Decatur. In addition, the dey agreed to end the practice of enslaving Christians. Algiers and Tunis became colonies of France in 1830 and 1881 respectively, while Tripoli returned to the control of the Ottoman Empire in 1835 and became a colony of Italy in 1911. Europeans remained in control of the government there until the mid-twentieth century.
Too bad we didn’t just “negotiate” with the them for all eternity. De-Colonializing Africa really worked wonders too, didn’t it? Gosh, whose idea was that I wonder*?
Trivia tidbit: Decatur is Lieutenant Stephen Decatur, Jr. for whom Decatur GA is named.
*I’ll post details of what disasters happened when we listened to the Leftists in another post and Wiki is not my source.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this
Well, so sorry Debster can’t play with you Con-Serv-A-Trons today, there’s a support group for the militay wives/husbands whose spouse(s) have went off to fight the war on Oil for the new American regime, The Haliburtonites. We will all be waving our flags and singing “God Bless America.” Cheers.
Oh, and Van Nessa, girlfriend, get a life, go out and enjoy the day in that big gas guzzling SUV!!! We have people dying in wars so that you continue to be the same selfish self serving wench that you are!!! Toodles!!!
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this
DebbieDumbA$$,
It’s the writer of the stories words. While you’re busy visiting your hubby on a military base that’s been closed since 1997 try clicking the magic blue text and you can reveal a whole new world of information.
By RW (the aboriginal)
October 14, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this
What can the Iraqi Army that we now are training to “stand up so we can stand down” do that the British in 1920’s couldn’t do, and that our army cant do now? We are arming a loose cannon that could fire in any direction whether we stay or go.
Think.
By reality check
October 14, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this
Andy - I read the Wikipedia entry on Iraq and al Zarqawi, and it concludes that that Iraq and US forces have basically crushed al Qieda in Iraq, and not just by killing Zarqawi. It hasn’t been blamed for a bombing since April, or so the article says.
And yet the number of violent deaths in Iraq rises every month. Sounds like civil war to me.
Wikipedia also says the al Qaeda in Iraq groups connection with Bin Laden is really vague. What gives?
And if this is still al Qieda, why is it promoting Muslims killing Muslims? Encouraging your troops to kill eachother sounds like a stupid tactic. I think there’s more to the Lancet study than Bush or you conservatives think.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this
Ft. Ord has a joint military attachment STOOOPID — try looking that up.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this
RW,
If those pretty candidates don’t get elected they’d be a shoe in to run the local gym.
Andy,
That cartoon is hilarious! Thanks for the link.
Debbie Do Guess,
I hope your knowledge of history is based on more facts than your psychic assumptions about the family members of people you disagree with.
It’s not? I didn’t think so.
By getalife
October 14, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this
Yes RW(the original nut)
Warner said they did not do their research about Iraq and was amazed he admitted that failure.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this
Did I say 1997? My apologies, Ft. Ord closed in 1994
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this
Facts or RW the original stoopid Righty:
About 750 acres of Fort Ord, including three housing areas and the post exchange and commissary, was annexed to the Presidio of Monterey. They serve the Defense Language Institute, the Naval Postgraduate School and the Coast Guard station.
The Army continues to occupy 277 buildings, including 600 family housing units, the community club, commissary, post exchange, and a small medical clinic.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
Debbie Do Guess,I hope your knowledge of history is based on more facts than your psychic assumptions about the family members of people you disagree with.
Huh?!!
SIDEBAR: I’m trying to leave but you Con-Serv-A-Trons keep pulling me back!!!
OK IM BACK: Hey what the heck RU wailing about? Just because you can talk a good game but aren’t that sure in your own president’s plan to put YOUR life on the line? Talk the talk, walk the walk. You believe so much in Dubya’s policy, enlist your DANG SELF and carry it out. If not, shut up and pour Dubya another drink.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
DebbieDumbA$$,
I read some of your wild eyed ranting up ^ ^ ^ there. Pardon me if I take anything you say with a grain of salt.
getalife,
Are you responding to me or my stalker?
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
They can join rushncap on his next Tuscan bathhouse tour or DebbieDumbA$$ who’s now scrambling for her next lie. She’ll tell us “hubby” is in charge of the military detail that mans the otter exhibit at the Monterey aquarium next.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
So, found out I was right, hu?, you are STOOOPID — too stoooopid to look up facts before talking smack. How the heck you’re gonna tell a MILITARY WIFE where her husband is stationed? Thats just STOOOOPID
getalife,
Oh yeah, like yours? When was the last time you went outside, had a friend over, made some cookies, made whooopeee(with a real person, not that blow up thingy you keep in the closet), washed your car, talked to a real person, (1-900-Trannies R US doesn’t count), did ANYTHING except sit inside your lonely room, type, type,typing on your computer? Yeah, thought so…..
By getalife
October 14, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
This should make you wet your pants
It will not be long before they get their hands on their nukes.
W has screwed up more than anyone dreamed possible.
But keep cheering on the cheerleader.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
RW (the original Tranny):
Talk about me if you want, but if you want to talk about my family then I’m up for talking about yours.
How’s Uncle Joe been since that silly little incident that happened when you were a boy? You know, with him, you, and the “magic button” he kept telling you to push?
Keep it up slick, i can go for hours.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
Van and Logic,
This is one of my very favorite history lessons. I wish the civilized world would take heed.
And then in 1970, The Chatham House Version appeared. At the time, nationalist leaders in India, the Middle East, and Africa had come, or were about to come, to power. The British Empire had hitherto been a fixed point of reference in the world, and those who administered it had willingly accepted responsibility for the rule of law and the maintenance of order. The abrupt dismantling of this empire dislocated millions of people, leaving them at the mercy of self-appointed leaders. In one country after another, the achievements of many decades, and sometimes as long as a century or two, were undone in a flash of violence; law and order gave way to dictatorship and tyranny, and graveyards and prisons filled accordingly. And this, according to fashionable opinion-makers in Britain, was liberation, the exciting birth of the Third World.
Snippets -
In one Arab country after another, and beyond in the Third World, independence brought tyranny, not freedom, to people in no position to defend themselves.
Never mind law and order, they liked to argue, the British should never have had an empire in the first place and had rightly got out of an exploitative and immoral enterprise about which they ought to feel nothing but guilt.
Professor Arnold Toynbee was a would-be polymath with much influence in the corridors of power, and perhaps nobody did more than he to falsify history with a fictitious account of the British, indeed the whole West, depicting them as aggressors and everyone else as victims—and this while Third World rulers were busier than ever filling their graveyards and prisons with their own subjects.
By getalife
October 14, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
Way to support the troops RW.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this
DebbieDumbA$$,
I’ll stick my first impression that you are completely full of s!it. You’re as much in Monterey as I am typing from the space station. If you want to prove me wrong, click here and leave a comment
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
getalife,
That 2:32 may be the first time anybody has gone after both of us in the same comment, this DebbieDumbA$$ is a strange one.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
I’ll stick my first impression that you are completely full of s!it. You’re as much in Monterey as I am typing from the space station
a) you’ll never get me with a link to a computer virus slick, try another one.
b) you’re such a big man all alone in your little room, wearing your sister’s undies, typing on your computer, talking about ACTION and how we need to ACT on North Korea. Why don’t you JOIN THE MILITARY and act? What’s the matter Uncle Billy got your……….um………tongue?
Remember, don’t ask don’t tell!!!
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this
DebbieDumbA$$,
a) Like I said, completely full of sh!t. I guarantee you that link is virus free, pop-up free, adware and spy ware free.
Put up or shut up!
b) Would you like to point to where I said a freaking word about needing to take military action in North Korea?
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this
RW (the original Tranny):
Sorry can’t stay any longer I REALLY gotta get out of here. I know, seeing how you’re such a big man, that you’ll talk about me once I’m gone, but that’s ok. Talk about me all you want, that’s what little girls do best anyway.
Whatever you say, I can just read about it later. Then you can be ALWAYS right, because I won’t be around to ferret out your ridiculous lies.
See ya STOOOPID!!! (pronounced STEW-pid with an emphasis on the STEW)
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
RW,
Don’t you just live the way that Little Debbie Cupcake makes aspersions about our families based on nothing but failed psychic powers, but when presented with facts about their questionable claims they get indignant?
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this
Although Army personnel still operate parts of the base, no active Army division is stationed at Fort Ord.
With the closure of Fort Ord, responsibility for the remaining Army activities was transferred to the Commander, Presidio of Monterey. The Presidio of Monterey, Directorate of Environmental and Natural Resources, manages the cleanup of the former Fort Ord under contract with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
Tell us more DebbieDumbA$$!!!
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this
Dic*Heads: DID I SAY MY HUSBAND WAS IN THE ARMY? Do you see that anywhere in my posts? The Defense Langauge Institute is on Ft. Ord it’s a JOINT SERVICE INSTITUTE!! that mean, boy genuises, the personnel stationed there can be in the Army, Navy, Air Forc and gasp MARINES!!!
Dang, can you people READ?? Or has dancing with the devil, Dubya, taken away all your brain cells like drinking did his?
Just STOOOOPID!!!!
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this
By DebbieDumbA$$ October 14, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this RW (the original Tranny): Keep it up slick, i can go for hours.
By DebbieDumbA$$ October 14, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this RW (the original Tranny): Sorry can’t stay any longer I REALLY gotta get out of here.
Looks like the libs are all bluster, as usual. I hope for your sake “hubby” lasts longer than that.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
What I really love is the way she justifies it by making believe someone talked about her family first. I guess she figures nobody will read back and see that she’s also full of it about that too.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
Sorry — that was inexcusable. I get very tense when I’m here and I should not have taken my frustration out on you guys. I already knew you Con-Serv-A-Trons couldn’t read and think for yourselves, I should not have been surprised. OK, if you guys stop pulling me back I can LEAVE. Then you can REALLY spread lies without reading facts.
Gosh!!
By Danish and Logic = Oil and Water
October 14, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish @2:01,
Snot-nosed little dumba$$ here. Please indulge me while I try to explain why you’re an idiot.
You wrote, “I’ll post details of what disasters happened when we listened to the Leftists.” Undoubtedly, you won’t have any trouble finding lots of such details. My point, Your A*******holiness, is that I can Google just as well as the next guy. So, for every cherry-picked, out-of-context detail that you copy and paste, I can counter with a cherry-picked, out-of-context detail of my own.
Also Mr. Danish, although you and Van are probably very happy with our progress in Iraq, most now consider this endeavor to be a disaster. Did this disaster befall us because somebody listened to the Leftists? I’m sure you’ll say yes, but I’m just as sure that you’re biased in favor of any politician who you perceive will give you the biggest tax cut - greedy old bastard that you are.
Thanks for the cherry-picked history lesson.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive -Sir Walter “Shakespeare” Scott in his ode to DebbieDumbA$$
By getalife
October 14, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this
RW,
I am thinking “soda pants” in reverse.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this
Hey Righties: Here’s some FACTS about Ft. Ord, please, READING IS FUNDAMENTAL, but COMPREHENSION is the key!!!
The military still has a presence at Fort Ord, in the form of several California Army National Guard units, facilities administrated by the Presidio of Monterey, and the continued operation of the base PX and Commissary to cater for retirees who chose to settle in the area and are entitled to shop at such facilities.
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Go to the Department Of Defense website, type in Ft. Ord, CA in the “Search” option, then guess what you’ll find???!!?? Information on current activities on Ft. Ord!!! AMAZING isn’t it??!! Wow!!
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this
getalife,
She does have a “soda pants” like quality to her, good call! Now if she could work in some of his humor…
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this
I’m reminded by a very wise friend that this is the second day in row one of you fool liberals has claimed that a link was going to infect you with a virus.
My wise friend wants to remind you moonbats that computers need condoms too!
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this
TO: RW (The Original Tranny) a poem for u:
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we can’t hold onto thoughts they filter away, our brains are like a sieve.
Oh the burden when again and again, we find out that deep down we’re attracted to men.
Oh the shame, oh the pain, the horror, the joy, when alone in my room, I have nothing and no one to hold me, except my favorite blow up toy.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this
DebbieDumbA$$,
Your continued spin on this is making you look like a damn fool. Click my link to prove where you are or STFU about it.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this
DebbieDumbA44,
Thanks but you should probably leave the poetry to Dusty. It’s just one more thing you suck at.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this
STFU is that the Con-Serv-A-Tron intials for Still Tranny For U?
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this
Well I heard that YOU suck at……….well other more “biological” things.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this
DebbieDumbA$$,
Here’s a link to the After Hours site for luckovich cartoons, drop by and leave a comment so you can prove you’re really hanging out in Ft. Ord cleaning up toxic waste.
I’m leaving now, I hope you can force yourself to go on without me.
By reality check
October 14, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this
I guess nobody here’s up for a rational discussion. I brought up the study on 600,000 deaths in Iraq and a few folks here said it was bogus and even if people did die it was all al Qieda, and then they disappeared.
I said that al Qieda in Iraq has disappeared and seems to have had little to do with the original group anyway, and yet the killings there of Muslims by Muslims are worse than ever and it looks like civil war to me.
Even President Bush doesnt mention al Qieda and Iraq in the same sentence, he just mentions terrorists. I see a civil war that the US has no business in. Whats the real story?
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
RW(the original Tranny):
[http://benefits.military.com/misc/installations/Base_Content.jsp?id=460]
This is the link to military.com — that discusses the DLI. READ about the different services on the base. Then Once u get through with that click on the miliary housing (for training purposes, put in your email address and state “other” as your interest in seeking military housing). Once you do that, READ where some of the military housing is located for the DLI.
READING COMPREHENSION — I know it’s a big word, but hopefully you can build some sort of bridge from the written word to your brains.
“If u build it, they will come.”
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this
I’m leaving now, I hope you can force yourself to go on without me.
Say hi to your blow-up toy for me! Toodles.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
Snot-nosed Liberal,
My posts were not out of context and I was not “cherry picking”. Your implication that I am an ignorant idiot who just randomly Googles things while grasping at straws is what makes you a snot-nosed liberal.
I did not Google “Leftist appeasers” to get those history lessons. I already was familiar with them.
They are very instructive. The Barbary Wars describes our nation’s earliest relationship with the Muslim world. It also illustrates the folly of appeasement, and was a more in depth look at my statement that evil cannot be appeased.
The Chatham House version is a magnificent essay on the Hate Imperialist Americans and Brits first and feel really really guilty mentality and the utter destruction this has madness has caused.
Instead of whining and moaning and blaming Bush for essentially continuing the policies of the Clinton Administration, why don’t you offer some constructive solutions. I bet you can’t do it.
By the way, I am not a “mister” mister..
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this
Little Debbie Cupcake,
You earliest post today left the clear impression that your husband was “in action”, in harms way where he could be “spilling blood”.
This was meant to be in contrast to us and our “lily white” do-nothing families which you have miraculously conjured up based on nothing more than unsubstantiated speculation.
Would you like to clarify your earlier comments?
By Toodles the Blow Up Toy
October 14, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
DebbieDumbA$$,
Umm that was good! Talk about being able to go on for hours….
Now blow me………………..up!
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this
That didn’t take as long as I thought. Bite her on the neck and she flies out the window.
reality check,
Is your point the number itself, like your CJR link implied, or is it who is doing the killing? Who cares if it’s Al Qaeda? If one group is killing the innocents of another we can idly stand by and accept that or we can try to solve the real problem behind it.
We paid lip service to stopping ethnic cleansing in Kosovo by using wildly inflated numbers of deaths as an excuse TO do something and now you want to use a likely wildly inflated number as an excuse NOT to do something.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
Reality Check and Snot-nosed Liberal,
What was Kosovo if not a Civil War AT THE TIME WE INTERVENED?
Here’s the dirty little secret that no one talks about:
Clinton’s bombing of the former Yugoslavia killed more people than died in this “genocide.” And his policy benefited Osama bin Laden and the global Jihad.
The main beneficiary of the intervention was a Muslim terrorist group, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), with links to bin Laden, who had declared war on America in 1996, bombed our embassies in Africa in 1998, and would later, of course, orchestrate 9/11.
*Not only did Clinton order the CIA to help the KLA in Kosovo, he approved Iranian arms shipments to the Bosnian Muslims, in order to help them establish a Muslim state in Bosnia. Still, that wasn’t good enough for the Jihadists.Nothing appeases them
And look here, George Soros is at it again:
Compounding the failure of the Clinton policy in Kosovo, the George Soros-funded International Crisis Group recently released a report saying that the international community “must avoid creating a weak state” and that the territory must have its own army. Left unsaid is that it would be an army dominated by former members of the KLA. That would be the ultimate reward for terrorism. The terrorists would become the official army of Kosovo
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
Little Debbie Cupcake,You earliest post today left the clear impression that your husband was “in action”, in harms way where he could be “spilling blood”.
If he was “in action, spilling blood” he wouldn’t be at Ft. Ord. Duh!
This was meant to be in contrast to us and our “lily white” do-nothing families which you have miraculously conjured up based on nothing more than unsubstantiated speculation.
First I was speaking to the people who were hollering about taking military action in North Korea. These people who holler for blood, like your President, Vice-President, Sec. Of Defense, etc; miraculously don’t like spilling their own. THEY are not the ones, neither are their FAMILIES, whose blood will be spilled on the battlefields. R U one of those people? If so, then YES I was talking about u 2.
Would you like to clarify your earlier comments?
Read the above. BTW Dubya needs another drink.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
Oh DebbieDumbA$$ dearie,,,,
There is still no visit to my web site from you. You wouldn’t think someone posting from a toxic waste dump would be so concerned about her computer.
Lot’s of other people have followed my links and they seem to be doing just fine. So come on honey, instead of all your pointless bluster I’m giving you a chance to prove you aren’t full of sh!t. Stop the madness and prove yourself!!!
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
RW,
Be sure to read my link to “Clinton’s Kosovo Whopper” above - which I just happened to come upon as (shhhhh don’t tell snot-nosed liberal) I googled Kosovo+Civil War.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
Here’s the dirty little secret that no one talks about: Clinton’s bombing of the former Yugoslavia killed more people than died in this “genocide.” And his policy benefited Osama bin Laden and the global Jihad. I see u r a fan of the Righty Press!!! Why don’t you try going to the State Department website so you can get FACTS, oh yeah and tell Anne Coulter she can go there too.
To: RW(The Original Tranny): I’m not really interested in blowing half men. However, I know someone who would be just PERFECT for you!! Why you and he would make an adorable couple!!! There is no need to have that blow up thingy when there are real men out there for u girlfriend!!!
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this
Oh DebbieDumbA$$ dearie: There is still no visit to my web site from you.
Why should I? I don’t trust sad little men like you. I’ve read about your type in the newspapers.
You wouldn’t think someone posting from a toxic waste dump would be so concerned about her computer.
Obviously you haven’t clicked on MY link for the military.com website. If you had u wouldn’t insist on making a bigger JackA$$ out of yourself. But then again……..
Lot’s of other people have followed my links and they seem to be doing just fine.
Sure they have….
So come on honey, instead of all your pointless bluster I’m giving you a chance to prove you aren’t full of sh!t. Stop the madness and prove yourself!!!
Oh honestly, r u not out of high school? Everybody’s doing it!! Next you’ll be asking me to see if Bob will go to the big dance with you.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this
DebbieDumbA$$,
If Bush and Cheney were screaming for military action in North Korea we would be over there turning out that last light they get to have on at night, but you see Bush and Cheney are doing this diplomatically with NK’s neighbors.
So how about it dumba$$, who are you talking about that’s supposed to be making this call for armed conflict?
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
Little Debbie,
Thanks for the say-nothing rant.
As a military wife, you of all people should know that Bush is OUR President and Commander in Chief not just “mine”.
If spilling blood on the battlefield is what it takes then why is your husband in the relative safety of Ft. Ord? Why doesn’t he stand up and DEMAND that he be sent into battle NOW?
Or stop with the pitiful sanctimony.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
That whopper about the deaths in Kosovo is so big a Clinton lie that even rushncap admits it, although he says you can’t blame Billy Jeff because it was just bad intelligence.
Do you think little DebbieDumbA$$ is impressed with her chat room queen style? Or should I say RU ROTFLYAO at her?
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this
If Bush and Cheney were screaming for military action in North Korea..
Honestly, can’t you people READ.
Here’s what I said: These people who holler for blood, like your President, Vice-President, Sec. Of Defense, etc; miraculously don’t like spilling their own.
U Con-Serv-A-Trons are sooo literal!!! The Spilled blood I was speaking about is in Afghanistan and Iraq. Soldiers are staying anywhere from 12 to 18 months in one country; going back home for a few months and being shipped to the OTHER country for combat duty.
But u do have a point abou Dubya. Wasn’t it YOUR president Dubya who said they, N. Korea, were part of the “Axis of Evil?” and we must “take strong military action” against the destroyers of liberty? Those sound like fighting words to me. His backing down now is not going to change what he has stated MANY TIMES previously.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this
Little Debbie,Thanks for the say-nothing rant.
Ur welcome
As a military wife, you of all people should know that Bush is OUR President and Commander in Chief not just “mine”.
Sigh……I know, sad isn’t it?
If spilling blood on the battlefield is what it takes then why is your husband in the relative safety of Ft. Ord? Why doesn’t he stand up and DEMAND that he be sent into battle NOW?
Why won’t u go? Why won’t u DEMAND your hsuband, (if u have one — I sincerely doubt ANYONE would want to be shackled to you), or your relative go. Proof your loyalty to Dubya and his policies. YOU GO and YOU SERVE. By golly, that’s the only way to prove him right!!
Or stop with the pitiful sanctimony.
Cow please! It’s so easy for u isn’t it. Try walking in someone else’s shoes for a change — heifer.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this
Oh BTW Danish: R U a member of the USO? How r u helping and supporting the military families in your community? I know!! You’re buying a bigger SUV! Moooo
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this
Little Debbie,
Why don’t you dispute the specific facts from this really informative article instead of babbling incoherently that I go to some website which you don’t even specifically cite.
Not that I would trust it anyway because the State Department has a lot of “liberal” (i.e. Leftists) running around, but I’d be interested in what they have to say.
[The growing danger in Kosovo is compounded by the fact that the problem gets almost no attention in our media, which reported the false charges of genocide that provided the pretext for the military intervention in the first place but still refuse to correct the record and hold Clinton, Albright and then-NATO Commander, General Wesley Clark, responsible for what they have done.]
The media blackout is what enables Albright, in a lecture on religion and international affairs at Georgetown University on September 18, to declare, “Of all that we accomplished during my time in office, I’m proudest of what we did in Kosovo because we stopped the killing, and people are back in Kosovo living a free life.”
You might try to LEARN something for a change instead of just reciting endless nonsensical DU talking points.
Try this news item about North Korea
Kinda blow a hole in your “Bush is a bloodthirsty chickenhawk war-monger” scenario.
Finally, I hope you realize that you are only making things more dangerous for your husband and other relatives, should they actually find themselves in harms way.
Egging on the enemy by refusing to call OUR President YOUR President is not a very good strategy as it only encourages the enemy to fight harder.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this
BD,
Sounds like she’s about to stomp her feet and yell that she’s leaving again. I bet “hubby” is thrilled with all the attention he got on DebbieDumbA$$’s big weekend adventure.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this
RW,
Poor pitiful little Debbiekins has got to be THE most hysteretical“debaters”I have yet encountered!
All sound and fury signifying nothing.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
RW(The Orignal Tranny): There’s a big sale next Wednesday at Macy’s!! They have the cutest little black dresses on sale and I KNOW how you like dressing up and so I was wondering Girlfriend if u wanna go?
Oh, and you can bring your blow up thingy too. (We’ll dress him up in something different — I know you’re proabably getting tired of that catholic school boy uniform he’s wearing now).
By reality check
October 14, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
I’ll try again here. I never mentioned Kosovo and wasnt sure about Clinton bombing it anyway. I read the Accuracy in Media story and all it told me was that a lot fewer people died there than in Iraq. RW you say it doesnt matter who is doing the killing but I say it does. If its Iraqis killing Iraqis and not outside agitators like al Qaieda then the US should stop playing target practice dummys in the middle.
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this
Little Debbie,
I give to USO Cares is that’s what you mean, not that it is ANY of your business.
No wonder you’re not spending time with your husband while you’re on vacation with him in California.
He is probably getting drunk at the bar while pretending that he’s on a really important mission - just to get away from you and your juvenile caterwauling.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this
Not that I would trust it anyway because the State Department has a lot of “liberal” (i.e. Leftists) running around
Wow. Dearie, did you forget ur meds again?
Finally, I hope you realize that you are only making things more dangerous for your husband and other relatives, should they actually find themselves in harms way.
I can’t wait for u 2 tell me how…..
Egging on the enemy by refusing to call OUR President YOUR President is not a very good strategy as it only encourages the enemy to fight harder.
Ur kidding right!!! OMG!! R U telling me that right now Al Queda is on the AJC blog reading this?!!?? ROFLMAO!!!! Oh no, wait,wait I thought I saw Al Queda looking over my shoulder!!! Ali, go away!! Bad Ali, Bad!!! I didn’t mean to egg u on by calling Dubya a drunk!!
Cow please!!! Mooooo!!
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
RW,
As you can see from my last post, I had a similar thought about Debbie Does California.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
It might be worth popping in during the week once in a while for entertainment like this.
Oh Debbiekins, are you going to be around next week or are you going to be visiting relatives stationed at Fort Courage?
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this
Reality Check,
You asked why were were involved in a Civil War. I pointed out that Kosovo, which is hailed by Liberals as one of Clinton’s most magnificent accomplishments (second only to midnight basketball, was a Civil War.
A lot fewer people died there than in Iraq because we carpet bombed from 50 thousand feet. There were not a lot of “boots on the ground”.
Aren’t you interested in the Bin Laden connection to Kosovo? I think it’s fascinating and is a LESSON that we need to heed for THE FUTURE.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this
Danish Cow: At least I HAVE a husband and not a picture of one hanging on a wall. Or, like you, one of those pictures that come with the wallet and you PRETEND that that’s your husband. Poor sad little heifer. U say u “give” to the USO huh? Yeah right. Why not “give” some time, talk to a military wife/husband who’s spouse has deployed overseas in your church. Give some TIME not just lip service. You righties are so big on religion, didn’t Jesus say “Faith Without Works Is Dead?” That applies to military service too.
RW(The Original Tranny): sigh……. I TOLD you you can bring the blow up thingy…..it’s cool with me girlfriend, no need to have a hissy fit!
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this
OMG LITTLE DEBBIE,
You don’t realize that the enemy read the propaganda that they are fed by Al Jazeera and The New York Times?
You don’t realize that part of Al Qaeda’s strategy is to get the American people to give up and go home? (See Vietnam)
You are truly the Queen of Cluelessness.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this
Danish Does Dems Daily (Doggie Style).
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this
RW,
I wonder if Debbie and Midori are cousins? Psychotic parroting and squawking could be a genetic trait.
By @@
October 14, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
What are you guys doing over here?
Debbie, I can assure you that there are no viruses linked at RW’s. I’ve been visiting since it’s inception, and have never contracted a computer virus there.
Now Big Daddy’s links……that’s a whole different story.
The only thing you have to fear is getting caught in your own lie.
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this
reality check,
I think that we are fighting more of a proxy war with Iran and they would like nothing better than for us to leave as if we were just in the middle of a Civil War. The second we left an Iraq that wasn’t capable of defending itself Iran would fill the vacuum and take over.
Good luck trying to generate any support for stopping that from happening since we would have already shown we would turn tail and run at the first sign of trouble.
I think Jim’s about to close the blog, but we can pick this up tomorrow or you can follow those harmless links that have DebbieDumbA$$ wetting her pants and continue at one of my blogs.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
You don’t realize that the enemy read the propaganda that they are fed by Al Jazeera and The New York Times?
My God!! U R SERIOUS!!! I thought you were kidding at first!! But U R SERIOUS!!! OK,danish cow, seriously, open up ALL your windows - i think there’s a gas leak in your house.
You don’t realize that part of Al Qaeda’s strategy is to get the American people to give up and go home? (See Vietnam)
Don’t forget that they feed them blog entries from the AJC too (snicker).
You are truly the Queen of Cluelessness.
Better the Queen of Cluelessness than the Court Jester Of Ridiculousness.
By Danish and Logic = Oil and Water
October 14, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish @4:33 “Instead of whining and moaning and blaming Bush for essentially continuing the policies of the Clinton Administration, why don’t you offer some constructive solutions?”
Now that’s what I call grasping at straws. Further evidence of Mr. Danish’s disconnect from reality.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this
Well, gotta go. BUT before I leave I just wanna say it’s ALWAYS great fun talking to you people — I swear I’ve never laughed so hard before in my LIFE!!
OMG Look out Danish Cow There’s an Al Queda behind that door!! Don’t open the Door!!! Don’t Open The Door!!!
RW(The Original Tranny): Smooches. I’ll give your website to a friend of mine, I’ve told him that I had a “hot” person I wanted him to meet. OK so I lied a little bit, but you really do have a great personality!!! Oh, and say good bye to the blow up thingy for me. C U guys on Tuesday!!
By Buy Danish
October 14, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this
RW,
I do believe that Clueless Little Debbie is even more entertaining than…..Sybil bon finchie!
Debbie Dearest,
Are you sure you’re even old enough to be married?
I hope you’re not luring any trolls into spending time with you, by passing yourself off as being over the age of 18. Although even a troll could probably figure out that you are FOS.
By DebbieDoRight
October 14, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this
Well, gotta go. BUT before I leave I just wanna say it’s ALWAYS great fun talking to you people — I swear I’ve never laughed so hard before in my LIFE!!
OMG Look out Danish Cow There’s an Al Queda & NY Times behind that door!! Don’t open the Door!!! Don’t Open The Door!!!
RW(The Original Tranny): Smooches. I’ll give your website to a friend of mine, I’ve told him that I had a “hot” person I wanted him to meet. OK so I lied a little bit, but you really do have a great personality!!! Oh, and say good bye to the blow up thingy for me. C U guys on Tuesday!!
By RW-(the original)
October 14, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
As ignorant as DebbieDumbA$$ is, she’s light years smarter than Midori.
You want this site looked at by our enemies just mention CAIR. They are the biggest sympathizers of our enemy that exists in this country and I guarantee you that just got their attention. Leftists are probably bigger sympathizers, but being useful idiots they don’t realize it. CAIR, the Council on American Islamic Relations does know what they are doing.
By Andy
October 14, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this
By DebbieDoRight October 14, 2006 01:50 PM Hiya folks!! I’m REAL surprised to see some of you here today! I heard it’s beautiful in Atlanta today, (I’m in California visiting my hubby at Ft. Ord), and you guys, notably Van Nessa and her choir girls, are sitting around on a computer!?! Wow!!! You guys must have an intersting life…….
So what were you doing at “Fort Ord” DebbieDumbA-ss, throwing yourself in front of the bulldozers developing the land for houses?
Considering I did 3 years at Ord, with the 7th ID, I-
1) know that Monterey has nothing to do with where Ord used to be, unless you get into a car and drive south for a bit.
2) There are absolutely no elements of the 7th ID left there, the whole division was merged into the 10th Mountain in upstate New York.
3) Debbie’s full of sheet.
It figures, the first words out her mouth scolding Conservatives for blogging all day and then she proceeds to blog all day.
We’re talking about a true pinko here.
By Andy
October 14, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this
By disconnected from reality October 14, 2006 02:10 PM Andy - I read the Wikipedia entry on Iraq and al Zarqawi, and it concludes that that Iraq and US forces have basically crushed al Qieda in Iraq, and not just by killing Zarqawi. It hasn’t been blamed for a bombing since April, or so the article says.
Huh, I thought we were losing in Iraq??
Anyway, that was awful nice of those Al Qaeda guys to seperate themselves from the civil war and stand out in the open where the US could slaughter them.
Hey, somebody forgot to tell the boss!:
Iraq: We’ll get al Qaeda leader, dead or alive POSTED: 9:03 p.m. EDT, October 1, 2006 BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — Iraq’s national security adviser Sunday issued a warning to the new leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, telling Abu Ayyub al-Masri that Iraqi troops are close to getting him “either as a corpse or tied up to face justice soon.” He estimated that al-Masri has been involved in making more than 2,000 car bombs that have killed more than 6,000 Iraqis over the past two years.
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
October 15, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this
Fox “News” is treating this earthquake like Hawaii sunk to the bottom of the ocean, about the same way PMSNBC or the Clinton News Network treats Iraq, a bunch of noise over nothing.
By Mark Summers
October 18, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this
Former President Jimmy Carter appeared on CSPAN recently claiming President Bush’s decision to launch a pree-emptive war was unprecedented. Someone to ask our former genius-in-chief what he made of our naval blockade during the Cuban Missile Crisis and our explicit threat to launch a pre-emptive nuclear war against the USSR and Cuban if their missiles where not removed post hast. Someone should also ask him what it was that put teeth into the Monroe Doctrine if it wasn’t the explicit threat of pre-emptive war.