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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Gov. Sonny Perdue’s lead over Lt. Gov. Mark Taylor is 19 points, 53 to 34 percent, according to an AJC-commissioned poll by Mason-Dixon Polling and Research. Perdue led in all parts of the state, drawing support of 58 percent of men and 49 percent of women, while Taylor pulls 31 percent of men and 38 percent of women. About 11 percent said they were undecided and 2 percent favored the libertarian, Garrett Hayes.
The surprise to me is that Taylor is not running stronger among women. Black women are cinch Democrats and the fact that even with their loyalty, he still pulls no more than 38 percent of the female vote is telling. I haven’t quite put my finger on it, but Taylor has some version of Richard Nixon’s five o’clock shadow. Something he projects does not appeal to women. I suspect that it’s his size, which women either find intimidating or see as a lack of discipline. I didn’t see anything in his race against Cathy Cox that would create the impression that he’s a bully — the real danger when a guy his size runs against a woman people like. It may simply be that he’s now beaten two women in statewide campaigns who are popular among Democratic women — State Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver of Decatur for lieutenant governor and now Cox — and they hold it against him. Whatever it is, time’s running out.
This is a campaign season where the war on terror, pro and con, has sucked the life out of every other issue. Immigration was hot. Health care had potential. Energy had its moment as a campaign issue. The deficit and pork-barrel spending ignited the fiscal conservatives for months. But nationally it’s the war. And in the state, it’s likeability.
The question, though, is whether beyond a visceral sense of comfort with certain candidates, men and women are drawn to candidates for different reasons. Democratic women talk of the “women’s vote” as though its monolithic, which of course it’s not. By “women’s vote,” they mean issues associated with liberal Democrats, like abortion and expanded social services. (The debate on this blog, incidentally, doesn’t reflect any gender differences on issues that I can pick up.)
Questions: Do men and women see government and politicians differently? Or should that be: do single and married men/women see them differently? And what are the vibes that men and women candidates send out that attract us or turn us off? Do looks matter? Katherine Harris, the Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate in Florida, who is attractive, has been criticized for coming across as too flirtatious in some TV interviews. Would we think that of Janet Reno?
Comments
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this
As ugly as Mark Taylor is, he’s not nearly as ugly as the moon-faced redneck “Sonny”. Sooey Sonny doesn’t look like someone who backs away from the table often either. And Georgia women loved voting for the ugly hillbilly Zig-Zag Zellster, so go figure.
Most Georgia gals are rednecks, and vote no different from their redneck hubbies, since they are often blood kin besides…
Anyhow, this column today shows your usual level of substantive thinking, or lack thereof.
By Mid-South Philosopher
October 2, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
We are treading on “dangerous” ground with this topic, but, at the risk of stepping on a “social landmine,” I suspect that part answer may be in Taylor’s family troubles. Albeit, his son is grown (at least in size), there is a perception among some voters (a large percentage being female) that a politician who cannot manage the behavior of his own children cannot be trusted to take care of the rest of us.
Even Reagan was criticized about his conflicts with his daughter Patti. And has anyone heard or seen anything out of “Georgie” Bush’s cherubs, Barbara and Jenna lately?
Despite the advances in society of the role of the post-modern woman (most all of which I am in favor of), I believe there is still a “mothering” or “nurturing” element in the psyche of most females.
By Mid-South Philosopher
October 2, 2006 08:29 AM | Link to this
Gosh, I can’t believe my butchery of prepositions this morning!
By jbmlaw
October 2, 2006 08:29 AM | Link to this
Good morning, all. Odd questions today. I prefer to think that people would not exercise political judgments based on mere appearances, but I suspect the questions correct infer that we do.
I think everyone agrees that Condi Rice is the closest thing the Republicans have to a superstar, one who could have the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 without a serious bloodletting; could she get that nomination if she weighed 300 pounds? The fact that she is physically attractive is probably relevant. But that did not appreciably help Ralph Reed, did it? I always heard that the first rule of politics is that one is unlikely to be elected if one’s being frightens small children (that’s why our leftists do not have to worry about me running for office.) I think the physical appearance can have a negative effect, but not a positive one on a candidacy. That said, perhaps good looks affected the 1960 and 1976 elections, but those are exceptional. I don’t think there are any correlations to party or marital status in exercise of the rule.
By Van
October 2, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this
There will always be a minority of folks that will vote for the better looking candidate. That is the extent of their abilities.
Look back at the campaign of 1992, Ross Perot gathered 19% of the vote, he was not that good looking. He lost out to Bubba Clinton, a stand in for the Michelin man.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this
Let’s face it - the reason Georgians elected “Sonny” Perdue was because “Junior” Samples was dead.
Maybe Mark Taylor should get him a redneck nickname, like Bubba or Big Belly. “The Big Guy” sounds too Yankee.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this
Condasleeza is attractive? You need to get out more and get a new prescription, jbm.
By Van
October 2, 2006 08:45 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw,
While that may be true in the 1960’s election, I must dissent on the ‘76 election. If based on looks alone, Mr. Carter would have lost.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this
By GodHatesTrash
October 2, 2006 12:30 AM | Link to this
AJC is Filthy thinks I’m a racist because Georgia mountain folks are ugly idiots?
that is NOT what he said rednekkks vermin!!
“Mountain folk” is not a race, clown. The genetic deformities and abnormalities found in the Georgia mountain population are tragic and disgusting, but in no way should mountian folk be considered a separate race. In fact, there are a sizable number of mountain folks that have Native American and African genes. After all mountain women, indeed southern women in general are world reknowned for their fairly indiscriminate mating behavior.
Trash culture begets trash people, to be sure, but not a trash race, per se
I SEE REDNECKS NAMBLA HAS BEEN UP LATE AGAIN - busy with its obsessive, bilious hatred of southerners
None of rednekkk’s empty bigoted/racist assertions or assumptions about southerners have any basis in fact.
By Jim Wooten
October 2, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this
Morning all. Redneck behave today. I’m off interviewing candidates, so be on your best behavior.
By Chazman
October 2, 2006 08:55 AM | Link to this
It amazes me when righties tout Rice as presidential material. Tell me jbmlaw, you know how important winning the south is to winning the presidency. Do you really think the good ole boys in the south, those that go hunting every week with their hunting buddies, or those older, hard core southerners that are so important to winning the south, do you REALLY think they are going to vote for - not only a woman but a black woman? Think about it. When the voting curtain closes, do you really think they are going to vote for a black woman? She’s definitely a smart one. But I think it’s hilarious to think she could win a nationwide race.
By MELO
October 2, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this
Condi Rice attrative??!!!OMG,different strokes for different folks for real. And why is she not married, is she lesbian or what. I dont know if she will jump inot the Presidential race but we do have these invasive questions and scoops lined up already!!!!!
By CJ
October 2, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this
“Something [gubernatorial candidate Mark Taylor] projects does not appeal to women. I suspect that it’s his size, which women either find intimidating or see as a lack of discipline.”
Wooten’s assessment of Taylor’s lack of appeal to women seems condescending. Apparently he believes that the large majority of women vote, not on issues, but on whether they could see themselves going on a date with the candidate. There’s no doubt that some women vote based on appearance, but there’s also no doubt that as many men vote on appearance or similar irrelevant factors as well.
Taylor is loosing because his advertisements suck, he hasn’t fought to highlight the differences (such as a debate) and he’s making no attempt to explain his position on the issues.
Taylor advertises a sales tax cut on medicine, but Sonny outdid him with his income tax cut for seniors (Republicans will always beat the Democrats on tax cuts since their wallets are, in fact, their sole concern). Cutting regressive sales taxes is an excellent idea while cutting progressive income taxes is an awful idea. Unfortunately, most voters don’t know the difference and even prefer regressive sales taxes – death by a thousand cuts – a less painful way to go.
Taylor runs ads about Sonny’s bad education record; Sonny runs ads about his great education record. Both candidates give the appearance of benefiting financially from their positions in State government.
Hell, I might vote for Sonny myself, despite my distaste for his policies. Gotta love those SonnyDo commercials.
By getalife
October 2, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this
Sonny?
Foley is the scandal you need to know about.
The gop leadership knew about this pervert and did nothing.
At the end of this clip, the greedy old perverts bood Pelosi for calling for an investigation
Watch it, to show the true disgusting mindset of the gop.
You can’t trust the gop for anything.
By jbmlaw
October 2, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this
Chazman @ 8:55, Condi would need only 50% plus 1. I think she would have no trouble getting that in every state in the South, unless the democrats nominated Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman.
By Rep Foley
October 2, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this
Good morning,
Hope all my young studs are doing okay today.
I don’t find perdue or taylor attractive.
Not my style - too old and fat!
Did either one of them play lacrosse?
By jbmlaw
October 2, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this
Dear CJ @ 9:00, only those who reject Adam Smith proposition in “Wealth of Nations” would prefer your “progessive” tax over a “regressive” one.
All income is used one of two ways, as consumption or as savings. The income tax does not distinguish use, and thus constitutes a tax on savings and a dimunition of national wealth. In contrast, a tax on consumption does not penalize wealth; indeed, it gives the individual some control over the amount of tax he wishes to pay.
By jbmlaw
October 2, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this
cannot spell - diminution
By jbmlaw
October 2, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this
Getalife @ 9:10, you would agree that any congressman who had a gay prostitute ring operating out of his home ought to be kicked out of Congress, as well as all leaders who knew about it and tolerated it?
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this
Yes, Massuh Jim, I be good today.
Mr. Wooten must be gigging me today because Luckovich’s blog banned me Friday, so now I have to be nice to ol’ Marse Jim.
I guess I could rant and whine about my exile, but you folks know I don’t do that sort of thing. Although I might start posting under the “Luckovich Censors Intelligent Decent People” byline…
Jbm, you’ve now heard from both ends of the blog - Van from the way way way way out far right, and myself from the solid center - therefore independent verification - that you have a vision problem.
I sort of like James Earl, but I agree with Van, he’s a homely dude. Not as ugly as Condasleeza, but close.
By Redneck Convert
October 2, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this
Well, last night at the trailer me and the missus was talking politics, and the guvner’s race came up. The minute I mentioned Mark Taylor, the little woman went storming all over the trailer, screaming that I better not vote for him because … she didn’t know why, except he is a librul. And you ain’t seen storming until a 325 lb. woman does it. I was awful glad I put in those extra 2 x 10s under the trailer floor.
Well, I got up and went outside to pertek myself, cause the last time she went off like that I got it on top the head with a big frying pan, and I hadn’t done nothing.
I suspicion that the reason women don’t like Mark Taylor is cause he reminds them of their oily, slick older brother. While Sonny reminds them of a favorite old drunk uncle. In a contest like that, the uncle wins every time, even if he’s a prevert.
Anyway, Sonny has my vote. I forgive him for the big tax increase on Beech Nut and Skoal. And I guess I’ll take the little woman out for the first time in a few months so she can vote for Sonny. We may even stop at Wal-Mart on the way back. Taylor sounds good when he talks about putting the juice to 2nd-time child preverts, but he’s just a librul and race-mixer. And we don’t want Those People getting uppity. Next thing you know, they’ll be showing up at Billy Bob’s and ruining all the fun.
By MAF54
October 2, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this
Anybody wanna IM me - a/s/l, please.
Me - Horny FL Congressman seeking young M for fun. Send me your MySpace link.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this
rednekkks NAMBLA is still insanely obsessed with its venomous hatred of people who have done it no wrong. clearly the resident demented retard rednekkks has taken over a thousand viewings of its stolen video copy of Deliverance way too personally. doing this has eaten away at its already loose grip on reality.
you are the most obsessive compulsive execrable yankee turd I’ve ever encountered rednekkks - your hatred and bigotry toward southerners is undeniably of KKK proportions - you are one sick social inadequate and you need to get some long overdue immediate mental health intervention. your twisted pathetic attempts at humour make unhinged foreskin almost look like a comedic genius.
we on the right naturally detest/dislike/oppose liberals rednekkks - but with NOTHING like the degree of visceral deranged hatred and bigotry you evince day after day after day after day - you are beyond reason. it isn’t FUNNY - it isn’t CLEVER - it isn’t COOL - after months and months it isn’t ORIGINAL.
You are just a witless malevolent broken record - you dont inflame any more rednekkks - my post this morning is simply an attempt to appeal to the final, very last vestige of rationality left within what passes for your twisted sick empty exhausted mind.
I fear you are beyond help and a federal judge needs to intervene once again with more court ordered electric shock treatment!! this is not a joke or banter rednekks - just how it is!!
if anyone here posted even occasionally about blacks the way you do southern whites there’d be a serious consideration of race hate charges. if anyone systematically posted in the same way you do about southern whites the way you do about yankees there’d also be a serious consideration of charges for bigotry.
Jim would rightfully ban anyone of us that continuously posted such disgusting lies and bigoted hatred about blacks or even yankees.
not only are you a cowardly hypocrite but you an utterly dishonest hypocrite.
why dont you rednekkks go to somewhere like Ellijay or Blue Ridge or Blairsville and get up on a soap box on a Saturday or Sunday and read your most bilious posts out about southerners. tell the folks what you really think of southerners - they have a right to know - dont hide behind that social services provided PC in metro Atlanta!! walk up to an ordinary southern local white police officer and tell him how inbred and backward and retarded and ugly he is. you are much too cowardly and yellow bellied to do any of this!!
you are simply a yankee/liberal Grand Wizard of hate!!
By @@
October 2, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this
Jim: O.K., O.K., true confessions from a female voter. Pronounced overbites in politicians. While they may draw my eye, they don’t draw my mind.
Rudy Giuliani w/overbite - Straight-forward Conservative, but liberal on social issues.
Bill Clinton w/overbite - Nuanced, Wishy-washy Liberal.
John Edwards w/overbite - Charming, Wishy-washy Liberal.
The “Little Boyish Look”?
Which overbite would I vote for? Giuliani. Why? He hides nothing. Straight-forward approach is something I admire.
I’m appreciating a new commercial on T.V. where a little 8 year bold encounters his mother perplexed. He asks “What’s wrong?” The mother replies. “I’d like a new floor, but I don’t know how to tell your Dad.” The little boy looking confused, yells to his Dad upstairs, “Dad, Mom wants a new floor.” Looks back at the mom and shrugs.
I think Sonny’s appeal is because he succumbs to a “Sonny-do-list” and then does what needs to be done.
Taylor reminds me of “Baby Huey”.
By SusieHomeMaker
October 2, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this
I don’t usually listen to the polls. Four years ago they had Sonny loosing and that other guy ahead.
By getalife
October 2, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this
The gop leadership knew about Foley and they put him working for protecting the children.
This is how much the gop cares about the people.
Do you actually think they care enough to protect you from terrorism?
Please, they would put OBL in charge of homeland security if they could.
The gop are bad people and even worse Americans.
Think about that before you vote.
By Bad
October 2, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this
Michael Jackson is making a comeback…..not with a song, but he’s running for a Rapepedlickan Senate Seat. He should make a fine majority leader. He is, after all, a white pedophile. (so he’s well-qualified for the Repudlickan Party).
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this
@@, interesting perspective, although I would have thought redneck gals preferred men with few or no teeth.
By SusieNoEdumacation
October 2, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this
Dang it, I hate “loosing” myself!
By gop are pervert appeasers
October 2, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this
“Republicans trusted a pedophile to protect your children from predators. Can you trust them to protect you from terrorism?”
By Th
October 2, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this
The Perdue/Taylor one is easy; both are middle Georgia, good-government moderates. Perdue saw he was not in line to be Governor and switched parties. Why vote against him? He is not trying to reduce government, just make it work well; and his social agenda is pretty weak soup compared to most Republicans in the state government. He is not threatening to most. Many Georgia women are tuned into school teacher issues (they are teachers or friends with teachers) and Perdue did away with the accountability for teachers passed by Barnes and pays lip service to the class size parts of Barnes’ education initiatives. There is just not enough reason to change.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
tftt/tommy, I don’t have much time for your silly tantrums today, little one.
I would like to direct you to a scholarly tome the next time your mummy drags you to the library - it is one way over the head of a Manchester trade-school drop out, but it contains some information on American culture that you might find interesting, since the book is called Albion’s Seed, and focuses on the contributions of British culture and immigrants to the US. I think if you are able to read it, you’ll find like me that the southrons definitely got the bad end of the British contribution.
But I’m off - work today. Marse Jim, I be good!
By Bad
October 2, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
Foley bought a new scooter today. It’s a Moped. He wants mo peds?
Foley’s campaign headquarters last election was the neverland ranch. We all Shoulda known!
No wonder the Rapepedlickans impeached Clinton: he was having consentual hetero sex. That’s a GOP no no, apparently. I guess Katherine Harris never had a chance with Foley or Jeb, being sort of a woman and all.
Shame of shame, the Repudlickans covered up Foley’s statutory libido. WHY? So he could vote for Queermarked Pork Legislation.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this
clearly the demoNcrats have serious problems attracting likeable, honest candidates to actually run for office. the list of sourpussed hateful plug ugly liberals is pretty much a complete match with their actual office holders. they are all inbred with the vilest and most backward of inbred retarded mutant genes from the days of slavery. their physical repulsiveness and extra chromosomed stinky ugliness and the hectoring sluttishness of all liberal wimmin is legendary - especially in local pigsties as they spead their cocktail of virulent incurable STD’S to deserving leftist sexual predators…
see REDNEKKKS VERMIN - anyone can write such bilious hateful drivel which in the case of liberals probably? has NO basis in fact!!
but you do it day after day after day after day after day after day …
By Van
October 2, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this
Pope rednecks - Amerikkka’s Al Qaeda I
You must admit though, Condi is easier to listen to than John F. Kerry(he was in VietNam - you know) and better looking.
As a gray haired person, Condi is not bad looking. Might be nice to have a nice pair of legs in the White House, haven’t had that since Jackie Kennedy. Old thunder thighs Clinton might call for a new remake of the White House, with those extra 2x10’s Redneck Convert was talking about.
By SusieNoEdumacation
October 2, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this
Not a lot of Repubs on the board this morning!
Are middle schools closed today?
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
LOL SusieNo,
That thair Sonny done do good by all y’all redneck gals fer sure ain’t that right!
By Bad
October 2, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this
Over the weekend, it has become painfully obvious who has the long-lost Bush National Guard documents that Dan Rather thought he had: Rumsfeld.
Think about it. Who else could have them? I’ve long thought that W was being blackmailed.
Why else would W put up with such a boob?
By gop are pervert appeasers
October 2, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
See:
“Simply naughty emails.” That’s all they were. Just naughty emails between a 54 year old member of Congress and some 16 and 17 year olds.
That’s why the GOP House leadership is scrambling. That’s why they had to call in the FBI. That’s why the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating.
Can’t trust them to protect you from the perverts let alone the terrorists.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this
You know, Jim, you can go running into your bosslady’s office and thump your chest and say - “I let the Pope post on my pages, but Mikey won’t - who’s liberal now, b-eotch?”
Or maybe you should be a little bit nicer…
By @@
October 2, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this
Rednex:
Interesting psychosis you’ve got there. I’m a west coaster.
Sorry, I can’t help you with your “a$$-con-sumptions.
Your problem, not mine.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
Van, you’ve got me on that one.
By Jax
October 2, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
To Redneck Convert - geesh - I hope that was pure satire and kidding because if not what hath the Republican party wrought? The elitist conservative businessman, corporate executives, upper class snobs that used to pervade the party. This is not the Republican party I grew up with that supported Goldwater and Nixon. Who are these people!
By Van
October 2, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
CJ,
“Hell, I might vote for Sonny myself, despite my distaste for his policies. Gotta love those SonnyDo commercials.”
There might be hope for you still.
By Bad
October 2, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this
Katherine Harris is attractive. An attractive woman. She’s a babe.
Her face is a map of the world, she’s a beautiful girl. And everyone around her has a silver foot in mouth. The pedophiles have crowned her and she teaches them to pout…. all line up on the right, they hide behind her hair….but she’s a beautiful girl.
Suddenly we see. She’s running interference for the right…. Suddenly we see. Why’d they have to steal from liberty?
By gop are pervert appeasers
October 2, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this
We should lock up all gop in Gitmo, waterboard them to see how many more perferts there are in Washington.
Good thing it is legal now, just label them terrorists on teen age boys.
By Jaci
October 2, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this
Good looking is in the eye of the beholder. Remember when everyone first said Dan Quayle looked like Robert Redford? Not… Condi has the money and means to fix the gap between her teeth and chooses not to - why? It couldn’t hurt. Hillary has difficulty with daily grooming to be ready for all TV and press - some days she looks good, others she looks like she forgot her hair and make up people - oh, she doesn’t get those now that she isn’t first lady. Yeah, looks but most of all “grooming” count for both men and women. Cathy Cox was perfectly dressed and coiffed, it didn’t get her elected. But if she had not been, she wouldn’t even have been close. And neither Sonny or Mark would be considered handsome men. In the end looks and grooming count but the bottom line for voting should be their policies, stances, and record.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this
Taylor is a very fat ugly glib barsteward who is repelling (particularly women) voters, not just by his very distinctive sweaty physical appearance but by his behaviour. That seems to be the undeniable essence of his mounting problems.
There is clearly an element in politics, rarely articulated that can be summarised thus - “do we really want this person in our livings rooms/on TV etc night afer night for four years, and is this someone we can stomach making very important decisions for us for four long years - let alone eight years”. This obviously plays a small part in the average ‘normal’ candidate election - where its a much more pressing issue is in the case of (being very polite here) border line ’ nice’, like Kerry, the AlBore, Taylor, Cleland and so on. Obviously if there are sufficient partisan votes for either party in a given state heavily liberal state then the “physical appeal” or mental stability of a candidate is less of an issue, e.g. Dean in Vermontm but clearly becomes much more important in the presidential primaries.
But as Georgia has at long last outright rejected demoNcrats in the governors mansion after 130 years or so and the state legislature has similarly rejected the face of corrupt evil snouts in the trough liberalism and the GOP has emerged as the chosen party of the people demoNcrats should take note and not push odious candidates on the folks.
BUT MANY THANKS FOR DOING IT THIS TIME!!
By Eric
October 2, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this
Both men are the epitomy of fat, redneck southern trash. The difference is, Sonny goes on a post election day diet, slims down, then will pork up again after he wins.
Taylor looks like he eats a busload of children every day for breakfast.
By Van
October 2, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw, Re: your 09:18 AM I must warn you, you can not make comparisons to events that happened that far in the past. These are Georgia Democrats and not educated people.
They do not know who Barney Franks is and could care less about what his boyfriend did while Barney was at work or was he at work?
By Realist
October 2, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this
Who cares about the fattness of georgia politicians? We have bigger business to discuss today.
I am appauled at the behavior of republican congressman Foley. And now, after all has been made public, to attempt to blame it on alcohol and check into a rehab center? Give me a f*** break!! I have been drunker than drunk more times than I can count, and never, not once, not even for a second, did I think to myself, “you know that 16 year old boy is looking pretty good”. What a gross disgusting freak of nature he is!!
I agree with democrats totally and completely on this issue. Hopefully with the help of all the outraged democrats we can weed out and publically crucify all these homos and queers and show them for what they really are. Im proud of the democratic party for standing up against these queers and letting them know there is no place for them in our government!!!
I hope you are listening today Atlanta, San Francisco, Seattle, the democrats are sending a strong message to voters today, and that message is that there is NO PLACE for you disgusting queers in our government!!!
Finally, I have found common ground with the democrats and it took an old queer in congress to do it!!
By Go Condi!
October 2, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this
this text will be italic“The hot gossip in Washington is that Condoleezza Rice might have a new boyfriend. Secretary of State Rice is being linked to Canada’s Foreign Minister, Peter MacKay. It’s gotta be awkward dating a fellow diplomat. Like today, MacKay had to promise Condi he would get permission from the U.N. before he invaded her.” —Jay Leno
this text will be bolded CONDI FOR PRESIDENT!
this text will be italic “It’s rumored in Washington that Condoleezza Rice has a new boyfriend. Allegedly, he’s Canada’s Foreign Minister, Peter MacKay. Since he’s a diplomat and he visits her at the White House, he has to have a Secret Service code name. Do you know what his Secret Service code name is? ‘Captain Kirk.’ You know why they call him that? Because he’s going where no man has gone before.” —Jay Leno
By JK
October 2, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this
I thought Cathy Cox would have made a terrific governor, not because she’s female, but because she has class, common sense, keen intelligence, a good work ethic, and a genuine desire to make government work more efficiently and effectively. But this is Georgia, so I need to shut my mouth and get my lil’ ol’ girlie self back into the kitchen where I belong, ‘less’n it’s my day to take to the streets to protest evolution in science class.
By Van
October 2, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
Realist,
Since Congressman Foley did do the right thing and resigned and with the bile of the Democrats showing against gays in Congress, do you think it might influence the other gays in Congress to do the right thing?
Will this outrage against Foley mean the Democrats are going to take a serious look at gays and teenagers?
I am glad the Democrats are taking a law and order view and upholding traditional family values.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
@@, decent people like me don’t consider denizens of Bakersfield, CA and Pahrump, NV to be true west coasters - face it, you’re just southern trash that got lost in the west after the Dust Bowl.
By JK
October 2, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this
This is not the Republican party I grew up with that supported Goldwater and Nixon. Who are these people!
Jax, you’re right. The principles behind the label have certainly changed! HBO is showing a documentary on Goldwater. VERY interesting! I’d vote for a “Republican” like that, but there aren’t any more. BTW, Goldwater hated Nixon. The current crop of R’s began taking root when they decided they must get even for Nixon resigning in shame. (Hence the 3-year, $70 mil investigation of a sitting Prez that netted only a denial of something gentlemen deny.) They traded their core values for a power trip a long time ago. Now they’re covering up for pedophiles while waving the family-values banner. Sad.
By fish head liberal
October 2, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
All this talk about gay males in the gop has me wondering about something: when a republican is caught doing something wrong, he steps down and his colleagues let him go. When a democrat gets caught, he blames it on the gop right wing consipiracy while fellow democrats circle their wagons. It’s not like Foley committed manslaughter by leaving an intern to drown or anything. Besdides, how many lefties complain about the aclu-protected nambla anyway?
By deegee
October 2, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this
Sonny’s handlers knew that if the race between him and Taylor became close that he would need the female vote to help him over the top. Mark Taylor is running a horrible campaign but he would have helped himself more if he had shed some weight. He took terrible advice if someone told him to call attention to his weight and run as “the big guy”. When obese people refer to themselves as “big” most people hear “big and fat” and that’s just the way it is.
Katherine Harris looks and acts like a cartoon character. She is overly madeup and fresh out of plastic surgery. The big fake teeth make her look like a wax figure. Not at all attractive.
http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060316/NEWS/603160716
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
October 2, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this
Methinks Realisp doth protest too much - s/he’s Kappa Kappa Kappa Alpha Order - Greek AND Klan - same sex sodomy is a hallmark of both traditions.
After all, s/he told us the other day that the Kappa Kappa Kappa Alpha Order secret handshake involved the genitalia…
By Talon News
October 2, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this
Van, I for one truly hope that all them homosexuals in the Democrat party do the right thing and resign. Despite this small little breach, Republicans are still truly the Family Values party. We’ve been preaching values for years. The hypocrit libby libs will burn in hell. No doubt.
GAY DEMS, its time for you to RESIGN!!
Jeff. O~O
By Realist
October 2, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this
fish head, This really isnt a partisan issue. It is widely known that there are queers in congress on both sides of the isle. Im just glad to see the democrats finally make a public stand against it and voice thier intolerance over this shameful behavior. The queers need to learn thier place and stay out of our government!!
The democratic party might stand to lose some votes over taking this outwardly harsh stance against homos, but hey, thats a small price to pay to have righteousness and God on your side!! Yay for the democrats for coming to thier senses!!
By Redneck Convert
October 2, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this
This Jax guy must live in a cave. Us rednecks have been the heart and soul of the Republican party in Georgia for more than 20 years. Ever since we learnt Jimmy Carter was a librul. When we thought we was electing a good old boy like us.
I know TFTT, Realist and Markus are sure proud to have people like me voting with them. I guess they must be rednecks theirselfs.
I don’t know why Realist is so mad at this Foley fellow. If he thinks that’s bad, he should see some of the stuff that goes on up here in north Georgia in the trailers.
Anyway, Sonny will put Foley on his Sonny-do list and that will take care of him. And I sure do wish I could sidle up to the missus, like Sonny, and say, sort of casual-like, something like “You know, Jim Earl is taking on airs with his word book and all. Don’t you worry about him, though. I’m going to put him on my Redneck-do list.”
But I guess I’ll just have to keep my distance. Sonny’s lucky he has a wife he can turn into a campaign ad just by turning a camera on in the kitchen in the morning. But for me, you never know when that woman of mine will turn mean as a wounded bear. Anyway, she’s back at the feeding trough again after she got mad about Mark Taylor. It will be back to 370 lbs. in another week.
By Dana
October 2, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
Mark Taylor comes accross less than honest. I can’t say I particularly like all of Sonny’s politics, however, after having the opportunity to meet him, I have to say he at least projects the ability to be sincere. To have a politician listen, respond, and then, actually respond to an email follow up - well, he gained some credibility with me. I don’t believe that Mark Taylor has what it takes to govern the state. I see him making promises that I do not believe he can keep, and I do not believe he completely grasps the implications of those promises. Cathy Cox does, in my opinion, however we won’t get to see that in action.
I am not happy to see that once again, women are lumped together here and somehow viewed as second class. Is there a possibility that women retain a “motherly, nurturing” side that shows when we vote? Well, probably. Is there a bravadura, a macho/protective side to men when they vote? Probably. Does it ultimately have that big an impact on the vote? Um, that would be a no. At least not for an intelligent voter, which, btw, quite a few women are. I can’t believe all of you wonderful specimen’s of virility married stupid women, did you think only YOUR wives were bright enough to make decisions?
TFTT - What the heck is NAMBLA?
And once again - meetings beckon so I’ll be back later. Oh - Happy Monday all…
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this
so I need to shut my mouth and get my lil’ ol’ girlie self back into the kitchen where I belong,
PREACH ON feminazi JK … you finally get something spot bollock perfect - and after all this time!!
dont spoil it though by posting again this year!!
By gop are pervert appeasers
October 2, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this
Pervert Values!” is more like it. You have no morals or shame. Keep posting your perverted mindset to expose the real gop.
By Barbara
October 2, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this
Realist, I too am disappointed in the Foley situation. The Republican party sure didn’t need that right now.
As for the Sonny vs. Taylor and women voters, I personally don’t see much difference in their physical appearances, so that’s not really an issue in this race. For me it’s more about what they are going to do for us. Unfortunately we’re so polarized right now that each candidate is going to cater mostly to their party. When Mark Taylor said he’d put 2nd time child offenders to death, I thought “well, I just might vote for him if he does that!”, but shortly thereafter I realized that the Dems are never going to let that happen and it is just political jockeying.
By Bad
October 2, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
When the Repudlickans cover-up Foley’s Statutory Libido, they really “REACH AROUND” the truth, eh?……………..ew.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
Dana
NAMBLA is the real face of the far left democratic party’ it stands for North Amercan Boy Love Association … and the ACLU is literally currently defending one of their members and the organisation whose official web site helped provide info that led to the rape and murder of a young boy in Mass. the ACLU considers NAMBLA’s right to free speech which consists of “teaching” sickos how to have sex with boys something every American should have the right to have access to.
By getalife
October 2, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this
Here is a nice picture of the gang of perverts.
BTW, the Iraqis want us to leave Iraq.
By Van
October 2, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this
Talon News,
This actually point out a difference between Republicans and Democrats.
With the right, it is okay to be gay as long as you are discreet and stay within the law.
On the other hand, the left celebrates being gay and makes being gay a resume enhancer. If you should break the law, like running a gay bordelo out of your apartment, you are then protected because you’re gay.
By getalife
October 2, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this
Van,
Talon News is Jeff Gannon’s old site. Google him.
By getalife
October 2, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this
If you want to go after gays in Washington, you are opening a up a big can of worms at the White House.
Jeff Gannon
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this
getamaggotbrain and ALL your other moronic id’s …
how many more pathetic posts will you moronically infest this blog with on the subject of the vile child molestor Foley?
NO GOP type supports Foley, we are all very relieved he resigned, he should legally be punished if he broke any laws - unlike demoNcrat congressional hypocrites from Mass who abuse page boys and dont resign!!! only ACLU nazi like leftists in NAMBLA, bWARNEY fWANK and other leftist homosexuals will be supporting him.
By deegee
October 2, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this
Kudos, Realist. As always you bait the hook and reel in the whoppers!
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
Dana
that should be North American Man Boy Love Association.
By Realist
October 2, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this
TFTT, I really think this NAMBLA and predator problem could be solved with a little help from the general public. I saw how easy it was on Dateline NBC to go on the computer and pose as 13 year old boy and have these pervs come to your home. That gave me a great idea. All the bubbas and rednecks and young guys who like to raise hell on the weekends, could set up this little “sting” and pose as a kid, but when the perv shows up, instead of a 13 year old boy, he gets a good old fashioned nose breaking beatdown!! I think thats a great way to give back to the community and have a fun weekend all at the same time!! And its not like the perv is going to call the cops! Its brilliant!!
By getalife
October 2, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this
time for the pervert,
Are you a member?
By Watta Load
October 2, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this
But Realist…what if this perv guy is really hot? Want you be conflicted?
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this
Once Sonny effortlessly destroys the fat sweaty obese sweaty lying sleazy barsteward, did I say sweaty and sleazy? Taylor … Georgia will have four more years of GOP rule as the GOP has the governors mansion, two senators and currently more reps in DC than the demoNcrats. The state House and Senate will remain GOP and the demoNcrats will have NO real political power except the irrelevant mayor of the corrupt poorly run city of Atlanta.
this GLORIOUS GOP SUCCESS is surely one of the main reasons why so many damn smug self absorbed nasal whining yankees are coming here - to escape their own demoNcrat failed corrupt carpet bagging politicians up north.
By Shooter
October 2, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this
I didn’t vote for Sonny,but the man for the most part has done a heck of a job.He has been honest, he works hard,his intentions are good,he’s sincere, I’m going to vote for him this time.What does his or Taylors appearance have to do with being Governor
By Realist
October 2, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this
Speaking of whoppers deegee, I think Mr. Taylor can blame his upcoming defeat on Burger King, home of the $1 Whopper. Or in Mark’s case, 5 for $5.
By Dateline NBC
October 2, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this
Speaking of perverts did you see us reel in all them dumb Georgia men looking for sex with underage girls on Dateline last week? Wow. Most came from “family values” back grounds and were utterly embarrassed. These were real Redstate Georgians, whoops I meant redfaced Georgians.
The last Dateline was such a success were are planning a new show, Date-Line Georgia. You have to go through a lottery to get busted by us though, demand in Georgia is that high! Don’t forget to bring the Jager!
By JK
October 2, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this
Realist, would you treat the predators of 13-year-old girls differently? What’s with your same-sex obsession? My problem is with people who exploit CHILDREN, not people who are gay. Do you think little girls deserve less protection, or are you just expressing your fantasies for sweaty, violent, visceral contact with those you claim to despise?
By CJ
October 2, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw @9:16 “…all for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” – Adam Smith in “The Wealth of Nations” jbmlaw – If you’re going to use the “Wealth of Nations” to rationalize your shameless greed, then perhaps you should read it first. You were mistaken when you wrote that progressive taxes (income tax) constitute a tax on savings. Not preferring savings (i.e. investment) over consumption is not the same as taxing savings. The economy needs both investment and consumption like I need both my right and left legs. By condoning a tax system that favors investment entirely, you favor a tax system for the rich over one that supports the middle class and poor – money wasters who blow all or most of their wads on such frivolities as shelter, transportation, food, child care and health care.
On the other hand, you were correct when you wrote that a tax on consumption (regressive sales taxes) doesn’t penalize wealth. Taxes on consumption penalizes poverty and expedites the shrinking of the middle class.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this
Realist
It sure seems to me that getamaggotbrain, along with rednekkks NAMBLA are the two main NAMBLA types on here. They are utterly obsessed with the Foley situation.
I agree with instigating the selfless suggested sting operation - the only thing though, is given the huge sadly rising poof population in metro Atlanta there may be far more broken noses than any local hospital - even crack pipe/meth addict/drive by shooting victim Grady can handle. The other thing is that such a vigilante sting will also always bring out obsessive cyber leftist sickos like we have on here - thus it might get to the point where the brave bubbas defending kids in their communities would need to invoke rather more drastic self defence tactics than mere fisticuffs. Happily lawful gun ownership tends to be higher amongst law abiding GOP types than effete lefties.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this
The last Dateline was such a success were are planning a new show, Date-Line Georgia. You have to go through a lottery to get busted by us though, demand in Georgia is that high! Don’t forget to bring the Jager!
so now we know why so many damn yankees are slithering down here!! …smirk
By Realist
October 2, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
Do you think little girls deserve less protection,
No, I have a son so I suppose I was applying my personal situation and emotions to the topic. Also, As a man, I would know how to pretend to be a 13 year old boy on the internet more convincingly than a 13 year old girl. But, obviously the beatdown sting would work with either a girl child or boy child.
So in closing JK, I am for the beating of all queer predators, regardless of their sick preferences OR political affiliations. A beatdown for one and all. Yeah come on!!
By getalife
October 2, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
time for the nambla,
So you are a member.
Pathetic.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
maggotbrainedNAMBLAsicko
time to choke on yet another election defeat!! Sonny is hammering the far barsteward Taylor!!
By CJ
October 2, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
Dana @11:12 “Mark Taylor comes across less than honest…having the opportunity to meet [Sonny], I have to say he at least projects the ability to be sincere.”
Dana made Wooten’s point concerning how women vote and blew my post @9:00 contradicting this point out of the water.
Oh well. You win some and lose some.
By GOP, Utah
October 2, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
The GOP,Utah is looking for girls age 12-16 for marriage. Must be willing to get along with large groups of people. Must be able to cook and clean for families of 40. Men under the age of 55 now available. Act soon. (Must pass drug test and maintain proper Family Values) Straights ONLY.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this
By GOP, Utah
so yankee NAMBLA rednekkks has yet another perverted cowardly hide from decent folks ID!!
By @@
October 2, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
Rednex:
I don’t visit here often, but when I do, I always address Jim directly. So why, exactly, did you feel the need to respond? I’m inclined to move beyond bigotry, even when is “elitist” such as yours.
I’m a very curious person though. The first time I saw you here, I wondered to myself… What drives a person to appear so foolish on a public forum?
I said to myself, this guy has issues and likes to share. He must have his own blogsite somewhere. Eureka!!!
I found it under your posting name. Your profile?….”I’m a punk rocker, pervert and all-round weirdo.” And you like to pose naked in your profile photo. Eeewwwww!
Okey, dokey! Congratulations tatooed warrior.
By Pat Robertson
October 2, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this
I must say I am a little disappointed with all of my Republican friends………..
If you would have listened to me none of this Foley stuff would have happened. I TOLD YOU TINKY WINKY IS GAY!!!
By Runner40
October 2, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this
I chuckled when I read this story as I just had a conversation with my democratic and liberal leaning boyfriend who told me that he cannot vote for Mark Taylor only because he is fat and that reflects poorly on his ability to manage government, since he can’t seem to manage his weight! I am more moderate to conservative and did not share his view. I just dont’ have a handle on what Mark Taylor stands for.
By Pat Robertson
October 2, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
Its now up to the Republican Congress to call a special session of Congress, right before the election, so WE THE PEOPLE can once and for all ban the abominable Tinky Winky!
Remember we are the ones that VOTE!!
By Mrs. Liberty
October 2, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this
To my white male brethren:
What the hell is going on?!!!!! Stop shooting up the schools! Leave that to the thugs in the inner city. Colorado and Wisconsin last week, Nevada and PA, today. Please take your anger out on the deer or ducks, but leave our kids alone. Take your gay pervertic acts out on the farm animals or Canadiens, leave our kids alone. Mr. Bush does not need this right now, he has a hard enough time fighting the liberals and Al-Queda. He does not need this from his own supporters.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this
this pathetic control freak nutter needs statewide contempt
surely in this day and age pathetic women like this should be given their own ride in a state sanctioned ducking stool and then be forcibly exiled to say NY or VT.
By Bad
October 2, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this
Foley’s Face is a brokeback map of ‘around the world’, (wink)
You can see he’s a beautiful girl, he’s a beautiful girl, (twink)
And pages that surround him are so easy to avail
He tries to reach around them but they always turn their tail
He can titillate a page with one email
Suddenly we see, (suddenly we see), He sniffs their BVDs
Suddenly we see, (suddenly we see), He wears the GOP’s lace panties..
(sung to the tune of “Suddenly I See” by K.T. Tunstall)
By Pat Robertson
October 2, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
Tinky Winky is a Democrat registered in Georgia!
This is exactly why we need voter ID in Georgia! PUPPETS DON”T HAVE A GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO VOTE!!!
End the fraud. Ban TINKY, BLESS America.
By Dana
October 2, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
TFTT - wish I hadn’t asked. But I guess I’m not surprised - just disgusted.
CJ - Are you an idiot? Would you vote for someone who seemed dishonest and inept? How does the fact that I judge Purdue to be the more honest candidate support the concept that women are emotional voters?
By GOP does what?
October 2, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
The GOPers love to call Dems the “blame America first” party… after reading this blog, perhaps it is fair to call GOP the “blame Clinton first, last, and always (even if he has nothing to with the issue)” party. Great. Just great.
By jbmlaw
October 2, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this
Dear CJ @ 12:04, how can income be used other than as consumption or savings? (Answer, it cannot.) Why would a tax on savings not erode wealth? (Answer, it cannot.) So-called “progressive” taxes can only erode wealth; you attempt to confuse instead of enlighten. Your fascination with Keynesian economics is noted, but not particularly respected.
By fullofsecrets
October 2, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this
“I suspect that it’s his size, which women either find intimidating or see as a lack of discipline.”
Sexist much, Mr. Wooten? As a woman, I couldn’t possibly care less about Taylor’s size: I am interested only in his effectiveness and his platform, and it’s the latter that I have a problem with. Despite what you may think about my pretty little head, I’m focused on the issues, not on how many Big Macs the guy has eaten.
Taylor wants to make it a criminal offense to sell M-rated video games to those who are younger than 17. This is the best he can come up with as a campaign plank? Speaking tactically, that issue hasn’t played well for either Lieberman or H. Clinton, so I’m really surprised that his political team can’t generate something more relevant to Georgia voters.
For this independent female voter, it’s about the size of the issues, not the size of the candidate. Unfortunately, I think either option is a lousy choice. Yet another “lesser of two evils” election.
However, I’ll likely hold my nose and vote for Taylor because he offends me less than Perdue does.
By blindfolded liberals
October 2, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this
Only a communist liberal would say that allowing people to retain more of their hard earned money with a reduced tax burden is being greedy. It’s easy for you liberals to use other people’s money for your own causes and then say you really care about them. Pathetic.
By time for the truth
October 2, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
tell us demoNcrats
if Sonny is such as bad gov and the GOP is such a poor choice for GA how come you leftists cannot beat Sonny?
Why is the bulbous sleaze bag Taylor getting hammered in every poll?
Why are you lefties so depised by GA voters that you cant win back either the state senate or house?
Why are lefties now so unelectable in GA - even with the massive influx of self absorbed nasal whining liberal yankeees and countless free loading illegal Mexican type immigrants who you lefties allow to vote in other states?
By Dana
October 2, 2006 02:52 PM |