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Predict November’s outcome now
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
By the end of the week, Congress will largely have finished its work for the year. The House on Wednesday gave President Bush the authority his administration needed to interrogate and prosecute terrorists. It’s expected that the Senate will agree to similar language today — after voting down an amendment offered by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania that would extend habeas corpus rights to enemy combatants, thereby opening the door for them to challenge in courts everything about their incarceration and interrogation. The fight among Republicans was whether to, as U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said, make clear whether the laws of armed conflict or domestic criminal activity apply. He’d argued, too, that it would invited judges, rather than military tribunals to determine who is and isn’t an enemy combatant.
That’s the most important matter before Congress. Certainly securing the borders required action. Left undone is legislation dealing with surveillance of calls to the U.S. from suspected terrorists abroad. But there’s a good chance Congress will return for a lame-duck session, probably between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Whatever your judgment of the performance of Congress, I come to the end still believing that Democrats lost their advantage during the second week of August, when they defeated U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman, and the British reminded the world that terrorism is real, serious and active. Combine that with falling gas prices, improving consumer confidence and a stock market that’s near record levels, and GOP election disaster seems far less likely.
Congress didn’t have a spectacular year. Failures to achieve permanent tax cuts, including death tax repeal, hanging judicial nominations, token action on border security and the absence of more aggressive efforts to eliminate pork were all disappointments. But seriousness about the stakes in the war on terror and good economic news may have saved the day for Republicans.
Congress goes home tomorrow. Their achievements and failures are now largely known. Put yourself on the record. Be the pundit. Predict November. Are incumbents in the House and Senate off the hook?




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Comments
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this
The prospects for decent civilized government in the United States did not end when Bush’s boyfriend Joe LIEberman lost the Democratic nomination in Connecticut, it ended when that damn fool Lincoln brought the garbage back in. White trash votes GOP, they have since LBJ “betrayed” them with the Civil Rights Act.
GOP won’t lose but a few seats in November - trash rules in Dicksea - always has, always will.
By Cocoa Puffs
September 28, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this
The question before congress is what criteria distinguishes collateral damage from pillaging, ransacking, plundering, and stealing women, (and raping horses).
That legal distinction can be made by a military tribunal, (read no insurance), or a civil court of law, (read cornucopia of insurance).
The victims of Mai Lai, No Gun Ri, and Wounded Knee, wish that their estates could have sued in civil court.
Cheney’s hunt for S**, (it’s a bird), left collateral damage who could have sued in civil court, (with his word), but probably was dissuaded by lethal-injection wielding interns lurking near his recouperation, (like a Kurd).
Now the domestic collateral damage criteria extends to the effect on our bill of rights, which is a far, far worse thing to have done to us than any malevolent horse whisperer could ever do.
Remember always that the right’s motivation is not catching terrorists, but hunting for sinners, (porn users, pot smokers, and union organizers). Witchhunters have seized our institutions.
Without an intact bill of rights, we’d all be sitting s**, and Cheney’s got the safety off. (and the pop top, pull tab off too)
Hey! Maybe THAT’S what happened. Cheney was shooting at beer cans that he’d drink all at once and then throw the in the air, which is like the coolest thing you can do at toga party and it’s an amazing feat first made popular by Buffallo Bill in 1892, when they invented the aluminum can, the greatest quantum leap forward (in fraternity years) ever, man.
By Darrel
September 28, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this
As a life-long conservative and Republican I do believe that this is a year of change in who may control the House and Senate. Georgia most likely will retain its current elected officials on the national scene but I do believe that other areas of the country will definitely change enough Senators and Representatives to possibly change the power in Congress. I am not happy with the way my own party has handled and done many things in the past six years and even I am considering giving the other side a chance to make a change. Scary, yes, but so is George W. Bush and his cohorts!! I really believe the Republican party is over estimating it’s own power base and/or totally underestimating the ability of the American people to think for themselves. I’ve never been polled by anyone but I vote and so does my family and many people I work with and socialize with have had a change of heart about the current administration and it’s shenanigans. Never-the-less, come November 8 we will see what the people really think. I know I’m not happy with those currently in office and there is only one way to change that; vote them out!!
By R Cagle
September 28, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this
I read an autobiography some years ago by a big-time Hollywood director. He said that the key to leadership is to make decisions. Clear cut, uncompromised decisions. Right or wrong, just make them. People may not agree with your decisions, but they respect you for having the guts to call the shots.
This is what Bill Clinton’s tirade was about the other day. Bush makes calls the shots. Clinton made compromises, avoided issues altogether, or relied on the tried and true Democratic Party practice of pandering to its many constituencies. The most important thing was perception.
Clinton is jealous. More importantly, the Democrats as a whole are jealous. It shows. The Republicans will win this November.
By Redneck Convert
September 28, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this
Well, I been looking at the polls, and it looks bad for good Christian people. And I got low as a snake’s belly thinking about a bunch of libruls taking over. And I got to thinking about the good conservatives on this blog and the librul hellions that invade it. So last night I got in a poetic mood and started scribbling. Early this morning, my good buddy Jim Earl came over and took a look at what I done. He went to his truck and took out his word book. Pretty soon, he had the thing ready. I call it “Pelosi Rises,” and I hope you like it.
What dark clouds loom on Wooten’s blog today! JMBlaw and Dusty seem depressed. Van sulks, and even Barbara seems fey, TFTT and Realist, repressed. But view the sunshine on the leftist side! See Dana, Rednecks, CJ sport and gambol; Hear JK and the Chazman waxing snide, While Curious Observer sneers and rambles. Poor Markus is despondent, and he curses; It’s hard for him to concentrate on work: What use to labor under such reverses, If Liberal and getalife will smirk? At once embittered, raging, and morose, he Foresees the rise to Speaker of Pelosi.
By jbmlaw
September 28, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this
Good morning, all. Around one month ago I argued in this space that two items would determine the election: (1) whether the Democrats articulate an effective antiterrorism policy, and (2) whether gasoline prices are closer to $3.50 or $2.25 (the latter issue as the common-man’s proxy for how the economy is doing.) For now, both issues belong to the Republicans.
The former has been badly mishandled by Democrats; they are effectively arguing now that “hand-wringing is the solution.” They pinned their entire November election on a single selective misleading September leak from an intelligence report generated six months ago. The quotation fairly suggested that the presence of US troops in the middle east had motivated the terrorists to fight. Had the Democrats honestly posted the second half of the quotation – that a perception of defeat for the terrorists would be fatal to the world-wide Islamist movement – they would not look so devious this morning. Coupled with their total failure to articulate a plan to defeat terrorism, they have punted.
The gasoline thing is highly amusing to me. When I wrote my domestic forecast, gas prices were around $3/gallon, with no real prospect for decline. The quick Lebanon war had threatened disruptions in supply, which never materialized. Unlike the large number of supply disruptions from Caribbean hurricanes last year, global warming seemingly has abated (haha, just jabbing our Chicken Littles). The unfettered market is doing its thing, now that we are past the EPA-mandated summer dislocations.
I would direct you all to today’s Prickly City, in the comics section of the paper – right on point. May be able to re-visit at lunch today, see you all later.
By JK
September 28, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this
No fair, Mr. Wooten! We haven’t received our *October Surprise yet. Lord only knows what they’re planning, but it’s sure to be another doozy!
By getalife
September 28, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this
This election will be a mess due to the electronic voting machines. They know they can be hacked and unreliable but we will use them anyway.
The world is waiting for the old America with high moral values and high standards of treating others. They will not see it, now we are the new America who tortures and invade countries for no good reason. The detainee bill sealed the deal.
Welcome to the new America, we have lost the moral high ground. I think the GOP will win at all costs and attack Iran to start WWIII. A draft, a nuke attack and millions killed will be the future.
Then we will merge with Mexico and Canada and be a true fascist state.
I feel for the future generations because their future will not be bright.
By jbmlaw
September 28, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
Redneck Convert @ 9:01, do something, quickly. The conservatives are upbeat, and the leftists sound defeated. What happened?
By Realist
September 28, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this
Its indeed a scary morning. I actually agree with JK and yes, wait for it…….with getalife.
I do think we are in for more breaking news and timely release of information, but I also agree the election will be a mess. The day after, regardless of who wins or loses, their will be recounts and lawyers rushing to court to file suit claiming all sorts of irregulararities and fraud. This is the world we live in now thanks to the Flordia 2000. Hell we set the example for the rest of the world in 2000 and now it goes on everywhere.
I beleive the GOP will maintain control, but I do think a few key seats are going to be lost. As much as I love him, I think Santorum may be in trouble in PA. I also thing Ford stands a good chance in TN.
But as JK said, it could all change in the blink of an eye with one “breaking” news story….and it will come Im sure of it.
By ckt
September 28, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
i’ll agree with JK - we should wait for the october surprise. With the NIE report only released in its partial form, and another intelligence report about Iraq being held back until after the election, it is no secret this administration orchestrates the news.
i would not be surprised if one of a few things happen in october: we learn that cowboy W has miraculously again prevented a terrorist attack based on his illegal wiretapping, we learn that Bin Laden has been captured or is dead, we learn that gays pass along many many more diseases to children than once thought, or we learn that Rumsfield is fired, to pander to the ones who demand change.
You can not predict elections - you can only guess as to what crap both parties have planned. If it’s mentioned in a campaign speach, it’s probably not important.
I also find it amusing how republicans (in the adminsitration, Darrel proves there are still some who think) can spin any news out of Iraq as good news. Regardless of past assertions made BY THIS ADMINISTRATION, what is happening now is apparently just what is supposed to happen. How in the world does a report come out that specifically states Iraq has provided a breeding ground for EXACTLY WHAT BUSH CLAIMS TO BE FIGHTING and this is still used by republicans to say that they are doing the better job fighting terrorists - that’s its the democrats “emboldening” them? This sort of backward thinking, illustrated nicely by party cohort Mr. Wooten, shows that no amount of logic goes into elections by most die-hard republinuts.
By Eric
September 28, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this
Here is an election result that I 100% guarantee…
After the winners are decided, whoever it is, will screw us left and right and tell us we enjoyed it… regardless of whether that are a Democrap or a Repubichair.
By Janine
September 28, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this
I do not agree with jbm…I believe the 2 issues a that will determine this election will be (1] Illegal immigration issues and [2] Iraq. While I think that terrorism is a concern for all, I think it is now, as an election issue, on the back burner for most Americans. I believe that voters will be voting AGAINST rather than For something, so it doesn’t really matter what the Dems have to say or what solutions they bring to the table.I think many Republicans like myself take issue with the outrageous spending of this administration as well as Bush’s position on illegal immigration,his stand on stem cell research, and his support of Rumsfeld…..and, if for no other reason than giving incumbent Republicans a wake up call to signal that they need to less responsive to the ultra right and pay more attention to Average JOe Republican,may vote for the opposition in this mid term in hopes of changing at least some current GOP notions before the 2008 biggy. THe bloggers here don’t represent most of AMerica. Most of us are either rabidly conservitive GOP or fairly liberal Democrats, while I honestly believe most Americans are more Middle of the Roaders.
By getalife
September 28, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
I hope the GOP will maintain the majority to clean up their own mess.
After yesterday’s detainee vote which allows them to detain anyone without ever being charged, I no longer hope the Dems will stop the insanity. It also gives amnesty for war crimes committed. It passed the house and there were Dems voting for it.
The voters voted for w twice and they choose party over country. With that said, it is time to sit back and watch the destruction of this once great country.
I think it is time to stop blogging before I end up detained.
By deegee
September 28, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this
Ask Tony Blair what his predictions are for November.
By JK
September 28, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
they choose party over country
Getalife, this is my observation as well, and it breaks my heart. I have a small, teeny, tiny, itty bitty little glimmer of hope that the forgotten independent, middle-ground thinkers will stand up in numbers great enough to stop this tide of insanity. It has to be great numbers, ‘cause the machines (not all, but a few well-placed hacked ones) will throw a close race in only one direction. The Dem leadership has, sadly, lost their freaking spine on so many issues, trying to make nice with people who’d slit their throats for a $20 tax cut. Geez if that ALL just had Big Dog’s ‘nads!
By Realist
September 28, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
After the winners are decided, whoever it is, will screw us left and right and tell us we enjoyed it
…..and not even have the common courtesy to give us a reach-around!
By Van
September 28, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this
Eric,
Finally, someone that has it right.
From my perspective, the leadership in the House and Senate will not change, no socialists in positions of power.
For the Democrats to win, they must present a plan of action and not words. If we created more terrorists by invading Iraq, think how many we will create if we leave the job unfinished. The democrats do not want to finish the job, they want to leave quietly, little by little until there are no Americans to help the Iraqis.
With the economy, the democrats have one trueism, raise taxes. They want more of your money, every taxpayers should be totally opposed just on this reason.
Democrats want to take care of you, whether you want their help or not. The nanny state is a democratic philosophy with deep roots, all the way back to Marx, Lenin and good old Uncle Joe, FDR’s big buddy.
Oh, and they will do things smarter without telling us how, this would be something to look forward to if they had a chance to win in November.
By CBF
September 28, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this
As much as I love the American people, I believe them (or should I say “us”) to be easily led, which unfortunately translates to easily misled. Therefore the election will go to whichever of the two major political country clubs can orchestrate the most imaginative propaganda campaign.
By Danno
September 28, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this
Hey Wooten. If we could get you to do 3 columns a week 1n the AJC starting tomorrow, the Dems would clean up in the state as well.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this
Realisp, the word is out - the “reach around” is the (Kappa Kappa) Kappa Alpha Order secret handshake…
smirk
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this
Alas, Danno, the Dems already dominate amongst the Georgia “intelligentsia”, which in Georgia means someone who can read at a sixth grade level or better, of course a minority in a state where only 60% can manage to graduae from a Georgia high school.
Having Wooten’s column in the AJC is analogous to casting swine before pearls…
By revelation
September 28, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this
Between all the re-drawn voting districts (ala Cindy McKinney) and unverifiable electronic voting machines, I predict there will be very little change from this election. The deck is stacked in the GOP’s favor.
By time for the truth
September 28, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this
Its great being a Republican these days - I’d actually almost forgotten just how much I hate ignorant treacherous crypto marxist peacenik turds. Happily now the wide gleaming GOP smirks are coming back as Washington’s treacherous pinko commie creep leftist appeasing rabble of craven linguine spined irrational Bush hating pond scum - a.k.a. DemoNcrats and/or the party of hate are beside themselves. Having been emptily endlessly promised by the mohammedan fascist lovin’ media (your enemy i.e. Bush is my enemy) troglodytes in the drive by Bush despising media that finally they were winning and on the come back trail. These terrorist enabling socialistic vermin now see the election slipping away as petrol prices predictably plummet with the end of the summer driving season and seasonal petrol formulations revert to standard unleaded, as the morbidly obese vainglorious tosspot alBore ceases to promote his deranged eco wacko movie of lies and quarter truths that no one normal of sound balanced mind has ever seen.
Now as the crisp days of autumn beckon the American people see just how desperate and fanatical and twisted the unremitting blame America lies are that perfidious liberal pukes will puke up for votes. After nowhere long enough out in the much deserved abject political wilderness, righteously deprived of actual REAL political power as they sneer endlessly at the military and cynically lie like veritable energiser bunny Clinton clones having six year long bad acid trips with frequent surprisingly lucid Reagan era flashbacks of just how a strong moral resolute visionary President looks to voters.
DemoNcrats are the most loathsome thing in America - other than free loading parasitic illegals and racist/sexist/gangsta crack pipe abusing hippity hop stars and their ilk. DemoNcrats are like very wormy flea ridden mongrel puppies - bloated and covered with sores where they keep robotically scratching at the cause of their ignominy and political defeats. Too proud to visit a vetinary and have Sheehan (both) Clintons, Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, Murtha and the rest of the cowardly inbred lese majestic mutants in the increasingly demented litter of secretly trotskyist knaves put down.
Watching the demoNcrats lose yet again in November will bring tears of unconfined joy and hilarity to all clear thinking Americans who actually understand what Bush is doing and why. Those of us who have the vision and clarity of thought and quiet, unassuming testicular fortitude to stand up to murderous mohammedan/arab fascism and rid the world of the gob shiite and sunni terroristic faecal matter endlessly paraded on al jazeera will be a whoopin’ and a hollerin’ on election night. Gloating with national pride and the wisdom amd energy of true patriots at the cnn and msnbc Wanchors (gedditt??) who are manically depressed yet again as millions of vexed leftist maggots gloriously choke back the bitter tears of another GOP electoral arsekicking. True patriotic Americans will be watching with immense amour propre as Bush and Cheney explain patiently and humbly to us REAL AMERICANS from sea to shining sea just how fabulous life is with the GOP in complete control in that shining city on a hill!!
By Th
September 28, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this
The Dems will make gains, but maybe not enough to take over a house of Congress. People are catching on to the Bush recycle of FEAR, FEAR, FEAR! My right wing family members are seeing the Iraq misadventure for what it is. The NIE says that staying increases terrorism. The NIE says leaving increases terrorism. Only Bush could be so stupid as to put us into this position.
Jim, we already had proceedures for interrogating and trying terrorists. We also had proceedures for tapping phones and tracing peoples’ financial transactions. Bush didn’t want to use them. If he doesn’t think he can keep us safe without secret prisons, torture, kangaroo courts and spying without a warrant, he should resign and let someone take over who can. If these new measures were in place at the time of the Oklahoma City bombing, Clinton could have sent Janet Reno to round up the Michigan militia and imprison them indefinitely without a trial. They did support the conspirators even if they didn’t realize it at the time. And, JBM, just because the press will never tell you what the Dem plan for combatting terror is doesn’t mean they haven’t articulated one. There are books and seminars and speeches on fighting terror put forward by the Dems, but it’s far easier to just pretend they don’t exist. Did you ever look at Kerry’s position papers on fighting terrorism? You might want to read the NIE carefully because it says that Kerry was right. International cooperation on intelligence and police work have severely weakened Al-Qaeda while military action has stirred more terrorists than we are killing. There is certainly a place for military action, but how many times do our military leaders have to say that victory has to be achieved politically in Iraq before we will listen to them?
Torture is wrong and harms the tortured and the torturer. Are we really so depraved as a nation that we will use coerced confessions in trial against someone? Evidently so. And don’t tell me we are torturing people. We have put people on trial for the same things we are doing. Habeas is the only right written into the original constitution and we threw it out the window making every American who travels outside our country less safe. Would the South Florida professor even been given a trial under these rules? But, why don’t we just tell the truth about something here? It doesn’t matter what passes Congress because Bush will do anything he wants because he has lawyers telling him he is not above the law; he is the law.
By Middle America
September 28, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
I don’t think Democrats have made enough of a push to retake Congress altogether. But they still have a great chance to take the House. I know that the conservatives on here don’t want Democrats to win. I also know that a lot of you wish your party were going in a different direction, instead of 90 degrees right. But what you have to understand is there will be no catalyst for the GOP to change if they keep winning elections. If Democrats gain ground, and one house of congress, then the GOP will have to reassess where they are and make some changes. Listen to Newt Gingrich. He knows the GOP needs to change course. We need to get Washington back to the middle, instead of the corners of the room.
By Stinky Sullivan
September 28, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this
Liberals think they are smarter. Let them keep thinking it. We conservatives will simply keep winning election after election.
sS
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
September 28, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this
Al Qaeda’s Concubine: The canoe, man, are you going to come to Tennesse and get it or what?
They said they wouldn’t make you squeal this time.
I never believed you had this much smarts but you are showing a tad bit of intelligence by keeping your spoon fed noisy little a-ss out from Luckovich’s blog, where you know your utter humilation is but a comment away.
You just keep on with your redneck BS, safe here among all these psuedo conservatives, show them the huge chip on your shoulder like you got raped by some hill billies or something.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
Just so everybody is clear - no matter who wins in November, tftt - tommy fairy terdburgling troll, Realisp, Markanus, jbm, and the rest of the Woo-ten Klan will still be big-time losers.
That prediction you can take to the bank.
By Luther J Maloney
September 28, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this
I hate to be the one to throw some cold water on the “Economy is Great” party. However, broader measures of the stock market are nowhere near record territory. The NASDAQ index, which is a broad index of stocks, is at 2500, roughly 1/2 of the record high in 2000 (See here. The S&P 500 (an index of the 500 largest companies in the US) is at 1338 which is less than its 2000 high of 1550 (See this link). Other broad indexes tell a similar story. The stock market as a whole is nowhere near record territory. Another statistic that is often the harbinger of inflation, the yield curve is currently inverted. Some other statistics, housing starts have fallen, and according to CNN, real-estate prices in some markets have fallen for the first time in 10 years. Another interesting problem is that the personal savings rate is NEGATIVE, and the income growth rate is an anemic 1.7% average (worse here in GA). The wages of the average Joe are not keeping pace with the rate of inflation (4.0%+) and he is going more and more into debt. As for any critics, I have a degree in Banking & Finance.
By ytl
September 28, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this
It will be interesting to see who will control the house and senate. We need change this coming November. The present admistration don’t have checks and balances so they break laws and rules with no one to hold them accountable. This is a scary situation for america to be in.This is how you get dictatorship type government. People should be able to disagree with the war and this administration and not be labled unamerican or siding with the terrorists. This country has one of the best constituions written and come november we will see it at work that is if the elections or followered to the laws of the founding fathers. Not making last minute changes such as voter id to changes the outcome in ones favor. Fox news,Rush Limbargh and the Pat Robinsons don’t run this country.Americans will make their own choices come November.
By Van
September 28, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this
Th,
The problem with torture is this:
According to the new rules, college hazing is torture. Boot camp is torture (for those in mid-town, that is where the military conditions you, trains you and tries to make asomething out of you.) Cleaning the toilets at the local business is torture.
In the old days, if it left permanent marks, it was torture.
In this country we do not torture our enemies, just ourselves.
By Nparry
September 28, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Voter APATHY is our greatest enemy, voter ignorance is our greatest weakness and we perhaps deserve the leaders we elect! God Bless America…..(some day). Bush and Co. have come to preside over the death of civilization’s greatest experiment - USA!
By Middle America
September 28, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
It amazes me, that Bush thinks Iraq is the central front on the war on terror, and anyone who disagrees is accused of either being weak or naive. Yet what does he do in Iraq, he hits them with what amounts to a wet newspaper on the nose, instead of with a hammer. 130,000 should have been 500,000 troops in Iraq if they were serious about it. But we should have put those 500,000 in Afghanistan first, and thumped the Taliban and al Qaida with a hammer. These people won’t quit. They defeated the Soviets remember, and essentially led to the dissolution of the USSR (yeah that Reagan comment about the “evil empire” didn’t really do it, it was a demoralizing war and poor economy). I’m tired of the rhetoric. We need to get serious about defeating our enemies, the real ones, not the made up ones. The only way we’ll beat the Taliban and al Qaida in Afghanistan, and get out of Iraq, is thru sheer brute and overwhelming force.
By Middle America
September 28, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this
Oh and I want to comment on something John Boener R-OH said the other day in regards to the torture debate. He said something to the effect that he wondered if Democrats wanted to protect the terrorists more than they do Americans. My answer to that is, are not our soldiers Americans too? That’s the reason for this debate, to protect our soldiers in the future, not to protect terrorists. I think anyone who questions whether other Americans want to win the war on terror needs to take a hard look in the mirror at themselves. The debate in America is not about whether we should win or not. It’s about how to go about it. And if in the end we win, but don’t resemble the America that we were fighting for in the first place, how can we live with ourselves? We have to do this the right way. We need to start acting like we’re part of the world community, instead of in charge of it.
By JK
September 28, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this
Van’s right! Here’s more on the subject, which helps explain why frat boys are, um… the way they are. frat torture
By Realist
September 28, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
Luther, Why dont you use the education you attained in the pursuit of your finance degree to shed some original thoughts. Simply spewing numbers that you have read somewhere is meaningless. How does that relate to todays topic? How do those numbers play into the Senate and Congressional elections? What would the economy and stock martket look like after a sweeping democratic victory? Republican? How does the rise in New Home Sales for August and low unemployment rates fit into your data? What income bracket are calling “average joe”. My numbers say the middle class is growing, not falling behind.
Come on man, that post was useless. Congratulations on your degree though. That seemed to be the main point of your post.
By Realist
September 28, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this
Yes, JK is again correct, puss*ys need to stay away from fraternities, and so do thier lawsuit happy mommies!
By Van
September 28, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
Middle America,
You point does not make sense.
If we treat the enemy, nicer, they will not cut the heads off our servicemen?
If we establish that anyone that mistreats a US military person, will receive the absolute worse treatment, it might make a difference.
If we let the bad guys know that if they attack our military, they will receive a painful response, it might make a difference.
By Middle America
September 28, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Realist,
I think Luther’s post is on topic. Wooten says the stock market is at record levels. Luther’s statistical data says otherwise. How is that not relevant? Wooten is trying to make out like Republicans no longer have any weak spots in their armor. Not so. Playing a shell game with issues doesn’t magically wish away the failed policies of this administration, just like Clinton lying in a deposition didn’t remove the fact he got a bj from a fat chick.
But you’d make a good GOP strategist. Don’t debate on the content of Luther’s post, attack him for how it posted it.
By JK
September 28, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
Whatever you say there, “Daddy Swagger!” HAHAHAHA! L,ROFLMCLAO! Haha ha..HAHAHA…! stop! please! HAHAHA!
By Middle America
September 28, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this
Van,
Every issue doesn’t being and end with Islamic terrorists. We need to hold a higher standard in case any of our soldiers or operatives are captured by other nations, like China or whoever. That proves how narrow minded you people are. You think one issue is unrelated to another.
And how exactly will threatening a terrorist detainee, who is ready to kill himself in the name of his cause, with “the absolute worst treatment” will deter them from killing or torturing our soldiers or civilians? Yeah MY point doesn’t make sense. (eyes rolling)
By Monarch Hames
September 28, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this
Elections must be watched to stop fake votes and keeping folks from voting because they have no ID and to make sure the machines work in ALL areas and not just for priveledged ones. The rich party will do all to where they have not already stopped our angels like with Cynthia and Atlanta with Bill. Voting right must be upheld.
By jim d
September 28, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
I would be surprised at a majority swing in either house but I do look for the gap to close with Mi. and Oh. losing a couple of Rep. seats.
By Realist
September 28, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
Monarch, The only way the voting machines will stop working in the underpriveledged areas is if the locals start shooting the machines. Otherwise, it will all be fine…
By Jim Albright
September 28, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this
Democrats crossed the aisle to vote in the detainee bill so that the electorate will know that THEY are not the partisan DIVIDERS in the upcoming election. King George was given full amnesty for all his war crimes so that the American people will not be subjected to another spectacle like the Republican led “Whitewater” and “Lewinsky” witchhunts which in the end amounted to nothing and totally polarized the nation.
Now we have very clear PROOF POSITIVE that it is the Republicans who are the PARTISAN DIVIDERS of our nation. They are incapable of participating in the political structure of a free society in which compromise is an essential element. We need politicians that can effectively govern; Republicans have proven that they have NO such ability.
By Markus
September 28, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this
Luther-
Thank you for bringing up the 2000 economic scenario when talking about the current stock market and economy. When you get to the point referenced about “overinflated and overvalued markets” regarding 1999-2000, please post it here as well. Like the housing market, what goes up must come down. A 1999 Motley Fool link stating that there was on overvaluation in <”http://www.fool.com/EveningNews/foth/1999/foth990120.htm”>1999. Somebody was wrong.
By Markus
September 28, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this
Wow, another touchy subject for our resident liberal assbandits. The Democrats are oozing with the sense that Republicans and conservatives are fed up with the GOP and will either sit this one out or even go so far as to vote Democrat. If any idiot loonbat leftist like Pelosi or Chuckycheese Schumer thinks we’ll put their neomarxist pacifist taxjackers in power, their delusional at best, psychotically deranged at worst.
Look around at what the party of the jackass has to do to draw attention to their platform: everything Bush is for, they are against; everything Bush is against, they are for. Bush reached out and never vetoed ONE BILL that Democrats put forth. Bush handed over education reform to Ted “drunk U-boat commander wannabe” Kennedy. How did the Democrats reach right back? Calling him an incompetent leader. Now who are the REAL divisive partisan jackasses?
When gas prices rise due to hurricanes or an increased demand globally or increased EPA fuel additives needed at the refining level, it’s Bush’s fault. If gas prices come down due to many Americans getting sticker shock at gas prices and conserving more, if gas prices come down due to higher than expected inventories, if gas prices come down due to the inactivity of the hurricane season that was supposed to be as busy if not more busy than last year (whatchagotta say about that Mr. Convenient Lies Algore?), then it’s all because Bush jacked the international oil market with Cheney and manipulated GLOBAL oil prices… a feat that would take incomprehensible infiltrations and interactions with OPEC, let alone Venezuela individually. But the economically ignoramuses amongst us, natural breeding grounds for Democrat votes, buy this kind of horsesnot.
Torture? Ask any liberal to define “torture” and you get seven different answers to Sunday. Punish and steal from the overachievers and reward and give to the underachievers… the bottom 50% of federal income taxpayers pay 3.5% of all share of federal income tax revenue taken in, down from 4.1% since Bush took office. But, according to the jackass lying left, the poor are robbed from and given to the rich. Ask a liberal how the hell do you “take” from someone who doesn’t have a damned thing in the first place and you get blank stares.
These jackasses on the left have to invent negatives and ignore positives to attract any attention, and their accomplices like that used-car beady-eyed AP white house assclown David Gregory (who can’t contain himself half the time until Tony Snow SMACKS his a* back down) are just all too eager to help them out. No, Americans know what the alternatives are. We’d like to thank Bill Clinton for his time last Sunday and showing his true jackass again. The amount of Willie Whoppers said (like not knowing about al Qaida during Somalia and Clarke being “demoted”) are fully being looked into, and we will expose what a useless man he was and every person in his administration, from Mr. Five Finger Top Secret Document Thief Sandy Burglar to Mrs. I Love Dictators Madeleine notsoAlbright. Try it in ’08 with Hitllary, liberal ladies, and by all means PLEASE, go further left. Oh yeah, and Lieberman is leading in CT. Total silence from the media who drooled all over themselves when his anti-war opponent came in public view.
Liberalism- indocrinating one unused mind at a time
By Van
September 28, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this
Middle America,
Look up General Pershing’s solution.
Pain is a wonderful stimulant. If a person is okay with dying, then take him close and in pain and leave him there. that is simple.
In previous wars, a surrendering soldier was treated with kindness, to lower his guard and get him to talk.
A captured soldier was not treated the same way, he was labeled a hostile.
But then again, we are talking about people the recognized the Geneva Convention.
By Markus
September 28, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
Uh-oh. I just heard that this winter natural gas prices are going to be down due to higher inventories and production. Therefore, home heating costs are expected to be way down compared to the last few years. The left will scream bloody ignorant murder and claim Bush is manipulating those prices too.
Let’s see if I understand this mentality from the jackass left: energy prices shoot up and Bush & big evil oil are making obscene profits on the backs of the poor and not caring to do anything about it; energy prices fall and Bush is manipulating the markets for political reasons. No, most normal people who can think for themselves (excludes most Democrat voters) can see right through the phony BS rhetoric secreted from the crybaby left.
By jbmlaw
September 28, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
Dear TFTT @ 10:30, you said almost the same thing I did with my first post this morning, but your stuff is so much more fun to read. I salute.
Dear Luther J @ 10:46, good try, but you need to stick to banking and finance and other respectful subdivisions of bean-counting, and stay out of economics. By your own note, even the worst performing markets are within 10% of their pre-election 2000 bubble-collapse, not more than three good days from eclipse. You perversely interpret wildly uncontrolled spending from record personal income as a sign of lack of confidence in the economy. You deceptively ignore the amazing run-up in real estate and gold – the two stodgiest investments imaginable – and the unprecedented inverted interest curves, only now coming back to the normal world after two years in strange territory (which clearly reflected the entire market’s long-term expectations about the economy and inflation expectations.) This year’s inflation will be under 3%, and this month’s may be negative. Bud, these are the good times; but wait and see what happens when the statists get control again. And I think you are not entirely truthful – you enjoy throwing cold water on good news. Democrat.
Dear Middle @ 10:50, even more amazing is that the Iraqis with Bush, and disagree with you.. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009007
By BPJ
September 28, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
I believe the question was to predict the outcome, not to say what the outcome should be. I predicted (reluctantly) that Perdue would beat Barnes in 2002, so you might want to listen.
Only a handful of seats are truly contested this year, as usual. In the Senate, that is mainly because only a third of Senators are up for re-election, and most of those are safe seats (for one party or the other). In the House, districts are increasingly drawn, with the aid of computers, to create safe seats where the incumbent only has to worry about a primary challenge, not the general election. Hence the increasing polarization in the House.
If you look at the Senate seats up for grabs, it is highly unlikely Democrats can win a majority. Lieberman is likely to win Connecticut; since he will caucus with the Democrats (like Jeffords), that remains a Democratic seat whatever happens. Santorum is likely to lose Pennsylvania. Democrats need to win in Ohio, Missouri, Virginia, and Montana. The most optimistic (but realistic) scenarios for Democrats I can see are either: (a) the Republicans retain a majority 51-49, or (b) a 50-50 split, which is what happened in 2000. At least that would keep Cheney busy breaking ties.In the House, I see the Republicans’ majority shrinking from 17 down to 1 or 2. There are several districts which were won by both Gore (2000) and Kerry (2004), and which are represented by Republicans. (The New York Times website has an excellent interactive map setting all this out.) Just as districts which had been voting Republican for years in Presidential elections eventually started sending Republicans to Congress (most notably in the South, in 1994), this is likely to be a year when Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents (especially in the Northeast) say “hey, I like my moderate longtime Republican Congressman, but dammit, I don’t want Republicans running Washington unopposed.” We will see several seats switch because of that, but not enough to give my Republican friends what some of them secretly want: Speaker Pelosi.
So the GOP will likely still control Congress, but will have a harder time getting much done without Democrats. And moderate Republicans (the ones left standing) will be anxiously looking over their shoulders, & unlikely to vote with their party on anything that is without some Democratic support (more than just Lieberman).
Remember you read it here first.
By The Sailor's Girl
September 28, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this
Hi guys, it’s me Andi/e - here to share the secret reach-around handshake with my sorority sisters Realisp and Markie Markus.
And that’s not all we’ll share ;>
Cut
I HATE THE AJC AND LUCKOVICH AND MY FILTHY MOTHER
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this
tftt/tommy, your post the other day about The Who got me digging out some old CDs that I hadn’t loaded on my iPods yet. I’ve been listening to Tommy today, and of course some of the lyrics remind me of little athiest you:
And tommy doesn’t know what day it is — s/he doesn’t know who Jesus was or what praying is — how can s/he be saved —- from the Eternal Grave?
And of course:
That deaf dumb retarded blind kid —- sure plays a mean pocket pool
Let’s all say a prayer for tftt/tommy.
By Van
September 28, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
BPJ,
I am in doubt if Lieberman will be all that buddt-buddy with the democrats after he is elected, I am sure the way they treated him will leave a bitter taste in his mouth.
I look for him to be a more moderate voice and that may mean his vote would be more evenly divided between the two other parties, and not as heavily democratic as before.
By Cheerios
September 28, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this
In the dictionary, there are no words that start with the letters, S…H…i…T, except the bird called the Sh*tepoke.
That’s why the dirty word (dirty bird) filter on this blog will screen any word that starts with s..h…*…t.
Cheney was hunting birds called sh*tepokes, which is the actual name of a bird, when he injured his companion.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this
Isn’t “Sh*tepoke” just another word for “Cowpoke”, which is just another word for “Texan”?
By time for the truth
September 28, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this
NAMBLA rednekkks
there are several classic songs and song titles that remind all conservatives of YOU rednekkks vermin including:
Little Willie by Sweet
Gallows Pole by Led Zeppelin
Its Raining Men by The Weather Girls
The Hangman And The Rednekkk Papist by The Strawbs
The Ballad Of Boot Hill (remember Tombstone now rednekkks?) by Johnny Cash
and your family’s deliciously incestuous theme song
Mama Told Me Not To Come by Three Dog Night
By BPJ
September 28, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this
I’m sure Lieberman will remain independent, but he has stated he would caucus with the Democrats (as Jeffords does)….and he did call for Rumsfeld’s resignation in a recent speech, so he seems to have come around to the idea that it’s OK to criticize the administration.
Does anyone have any predictions about the likely balance in the House or Senate? (predictions, rather than wishful thinking)
By KP
September 28, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
JK,
ouch! Just reading your previous posts about fraternities…I have to be on Realist’s side with this one. Fraternity and sorority members have been jast as or more valuable to society than you think. However, KA did live in a house that looked like the projects at my college. smirk
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
September 28, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
By Al Qaeda’s Concubine September 28, 2006 12:52 PM Isn’t “Sh*tepoke” just another word for “Cowpoke”, which is just another word for “Texan”?
Listen up all you quasi conservatives, this dude is the preeminent authority on being “poked.” Granted, his knowledge is limited to a regional ambiance, Tennessee in particular, but no one knows better.
By Realist
September 28, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this
KP, I agree. I visited some chapters who didnt have traditional houses but had old split level ranch homes and some even worse. To that though I have to say, a fraternity is like a family. Its not about how nice your house is but how strong the family is that lives in it….
By JK
September 28, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this
Hey, Dudes… I’m not the one being sued for blinfolding people, beating them with a headmaster’s cane and making them call me “Daddy.” HAHAHAHA! HAHA! Ha haha ha… HAHAHA! stop it! Hahaha!
..although in all honesty, if those things are consensual… hee hee
By Van
September 28, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this
BPJ,
If the house is too close - say 10 seats different, it will be hard to get any real business done. One side or the other will put up road blocks
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
You just keep on with your redneck BS, safe here among all these psuedo conservatives, show them the huge chip on your shoulder like you got raped by some hill billies or something.
Looks like this gal AJC is Filthy doesn’t think you Woo-ten Klan gals are conservative enough - or maybe you’re just not gay enough for her.
Maybe both.
Yes, both.
BTW, tftt/tommy, your last post contained the first funny thing I’ve ever seen you post - the Three Dog Night one. It made me chuckle - showed some true wit, not the halfwit crap we’ve grown so used to from you.
I haven’t been too smile-y this month, what with the death in my family. My mother and I were close, but not unnaturally so. Anyhow, thanks for the chuckle - I’ll pray for your heathen whiny soul when we inter her ashes next month.
By KP
September 28, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this
JK,
Its the over zealous members that are liable not the organizations. I saw worse a* whoopings in the locker room. I always that Kappa Alpha Psi members were a little “touched” just because they called themselves “pretty boys” and twirled candy cane striped canes! The dude with the blood clot needs his head checked for letting some dudes hit him in the arse with a damn cane.
By Realist
September 28, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this
JK, Just as you would argue on this blog that the actions of one thug black criminal does not represent all, or that one immoral sl*ut prostitute does not represent all women, Id ask the same consideration for fraternity members.
Again I have shown that your hypocrisy knows no bounds and that you are in fact becoming someone on this blog that cannot be taken seriously.
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
September 28, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this
By Al Qaeda’s Concubine September 28, 2006 01:47 PM Looks like this gal AJC is Filthy doesn’t think you Woo-ten Klan gals are conservative enough - or maybe you’re just not gay enough for her.
My goodness, what an insightful little Tennessee State homosexual rape victim, you discovered my hidden innuendo all on your own, almost like I typed it right out in the open.
Gosh, you spoon fed liberal elite pinkos really are smarter than the rest of us.
At least when you’re in a blog full of polite little eunuchs, mouthing your redneck envy hangup without the first challenge.
We’ll see how well you do with me, tosser.
By Its over
September 28, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this
The votes are in. Say goodbye to Habeas Corpus America!! We’ve truly entered a dark time for the world.
Here are the real American Senators who voted Yea to strike Yea Akaka (D-HI), Yea Baucus (D-MT), Yea Bayh (D-IN), Yea Biden (D-DE), Yea Bingaman (D-NM), Yea Boxer (D-CA), Yea Byrd (D-WV), Yea Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Carper (D-DE), Yea Chafee (R-RI), Yea Clinton (D-NY), Yea Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dayton (D-MN), Yea Dodd (D-CT), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Yea Durbin (D-IL), Yea Feingold (D-WI), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea Harkin (D-IA), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea Jeffords (I-VT), Yea Johnson (D-SD), Yea Kennedy (D-MA), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Yea Landrieu (D-LA), Yea Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Leahy (D-VT), Yea Levin (D-MI), Yea Lieberman (D-CT), Yea Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Yea Mikulski (D-MD), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea Nelson (D-FL), Yea Obama (D-IL), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Yea Reed (D-RI), Yea Reid (D-NV), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea Salazar (D-CO), Yea Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea Smith (R-OR), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Yea Sununu (R-NH), Yea Wyden (D-OR), Yea
Here are the loyal fascists to BushCorp who voted Nay- against habeau corpus Nay Alexander (R-TN), Nay Allard (R-CO), Nay Allen (R-VA), Nay Bennett (R-UT), Nay Bond (R-MO), Nay Brownback (R-KS), Nay Bunning (R-KY), Nay Burns (R-MT), Nay Burr (R-NC), Nay Chambliss (R-GA), Nay Coburn (R-OK), Nay Cochran (R-MS), Nay Coleman (R-MN), Nay Collins (R-ME), Nay Cornyn (R-TX), Nay Craig (R-ID), Nay Crapo (R-ID), Nay DeMint (R-SC), Nay DeWine (R-OH), Nay Dole (R-NC), Nay Domenici (R-NM), Nay Ensign (R-NV), Nay Enzi (R-WY), Nay Frist (R-TN), Nay Graham (R-SC), Nay Grassley (R-IA), Nay Gregg (R-NH), Nay Hagel (R-NE), Nay Hatch (R-UT), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Nay Inhofe (R-OK), Nay Isakson (R-GA), Nay Kyl (R-AZ), Nay Lott (R-MS), Nay Lugar (R-IN), Nay Martinez (R-FL), Nay McCain (R-AZ), Nay McConnell (R-KY), Nay Murkowski (R-AK), Nay Nelson (D-NE), Nay Roberts (R-KS), Nay Santorum (R-PA), Nay Sessions (R-AL), Nay Shelby (R-AL), Nay Stevens (R-AK), Nay Talent (R-MO), Nay Thomas (R-WY), Nay Thune (R-SD), Nay Vitter (R-LA), Nay Voinovich (R-OH), Nay Warner (R-VA), Nay
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this
AJC is Filthy, there are turds in toilet bowls all over America smarter than you, you cand-yass chickenhawk sh*te4brains.
Take your gay cowardly self to Iraq, chickenhawk - put your squawking to good use - you cybertuff girrrl routine does not shock or awe anyone.
By JK
September 28, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
Realist, did you or did you not (in a discussion on discipline) state that YOU have a headmaster’s cane in your home? And for the record, I wasn’t judging, I was just lauging. There’s a diff. I defend your right to be silly with your friends! So, chill, or, you know, go pummel your buds, whatever floats your um, boat.
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
September 28, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
By Al Qaeda’s Concubine September 28, 2006 02:14 PM AJC is Filthy, there are turds in toilet bowls all over America smarter than you
So you have been fishing in the South.
Don’t take it so bad girlfriend, I won’t be near as hard on you as those good old boys were.
By time for the truth
September 28, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
rednekkks
humour is like beauty - its always in the eye of the beholder. its perfectly natural you dont find personal comedic animus amusing. though you sure do hurl do far more than your fair share of your own lame, po-faced, effete, dolitish attempts at anti-conservative bile - invariably reflecting your trademark/autobiographical homosexual -I hate southerners theme.
assuming your mother has passed on and this is not another of your whopping forum porkies then I offer my sympathies - for what little that may be worth from a total stranger. Its something most of us (as I did some dozen or so years ago now) inevitably experience and is not something I would knowingly glibly joke about.
please dont waste the time or energy praying for me (like you actually would) - I detest such silly notions - regardless of how friendly the intent may be.
By CJ
September 28, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
Realist @11:00 “Simply spewing numbers that you have read somewhere is meaningless…My numbers say the middle class is growing, not falling behind”
Realist demonstrates, yet again, that he hates facts. @10:46, Luther J Maloney posted an excellent comment laced with supported facts and figures. Realist counters with “my numbers say”. Nice job tough guy. Don’t worry about showing us “your” numbers. We trust you.
Jbmlaw @12:13 “*By your own note, even the worst performing markets are within 10% of their pre-election 2000 bubble-collapse *”.
And jbmlaw demonstrates his bias. In this post he sets the bar seriously low for his conservative compadres running the government by pointing out that the stock market indexes are within “three good days” of meeting the high established prior to Bush’s first inauguration. Good going boys!!! We’re almost back to where we were over five years ago.
By the way jbm, contrary to your assertion, real estate has dropped 1.7% from a year ago (covered ad nauseam in the news this week), and a run up in gold prices is nothing to brag about. Generally, rising gold prices reflects the fact that markets are feeling bearish towards currency, inflation, interest rates, stocks and bonds. You then go on to brag about the potential for deflation this month. If true, deflation would not bode well either my friend.
Interesting…I would have thought that you’d know these things with all of your years of experience pretending to be an economist.
By Dana
September 28, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this
LMAO!
Ha, JK, wish I wasn’t so busy - you’re right on target today! HA HA!!!
What’s up with the bashing today folks? Bland topic again.
I am fascinated by the concept of voting for a party and not a candidate. I think that is ridiculous and blind.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
Good on ya tftt/tommy. You should know by now I of all people on this blog appreciate true wit, sophomoric silliness not withstanding. I must say today you offered me my first glimmer of hope for you.
I do not hate homosexuals or athiests, au contraire, I admire many of those types who have the courage to be “out”, especially with all the neanderthals that surround them. (The closeted types like Andi/e and Markanus are a different matter). Of course I find southern culture to be an endless source of amusement, what with it’s combination of pious self-righteousness and childlike stupidity. Although lately they are about as amusing as the Taliban…
Unlike the KKKhristians that post here, I’ll not subject you to my superstitions, either. My prayers rarely work, since I pray for things like world peace if I pray at all. The God of the Hebrews, the Triune God of the Christians and the Allah of the Mohammedans don’t seem to care much for peace anyway, if one looks at the history of Their followers.
So, occasionally I pray to the Great Spirit or somesuch for hope and peace for the hearts of myself and others.
How silly.
By Dana
September 28, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this
CJ, PLEASE!!! Realist LOVES facts!!! Didn’t you see all those statistics he posted yesterday? Why are you being so mean to poor little realist????
By Th
September 28, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this
I predict the October surprise will be spinach. It will be reported that the people in charge of inspecting the spinach don’t actually believe food inspection is a proper role of government so they hired their unemployable buddies who hang out at conferences on the taxpayers’ dime. No inspections were actually done. Either that or the polls that were released today that show 60% of Iraqis think it’s ok to attack American troops and that 80% want us to leave now.
By Jeff Scott
September 28, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this
Senate Predictions: Republicans Lose Four Seats
With Democrats smelling Republican blood in the water this election season, many observers think that the Dems might actually take over Congress after the November elections, which would spell trouble for President George W. Bush’s agenda over the last two years of his Presidency. In this column we will be looking at the Democrats’ chances of taking over the United States Senate. For the Democrats to take a majority of the seats in the Senate, they would have to take control of six seats currently held by Republicans. That is especially difficult this year, with only 15 Republican seats up for grabs, along with 17 Democrat seats and the seat being left by the retiring Independent ‘Jumping’ Jim Jeffords (I-VT). Such odds do not discourage the chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Charles Schumer (D-NY) from making bold predictions of a Democrat pickup of nine seats. It is widely predicted that Republicans will lose some seats, but how many? That, my friends, is where I come in. I will look into my crystal ball (actually, I don’t need a crystal ball—polling data and my brilliant and well-trained intellect will suffice) and tell you what should happen in November. This is, of course, subject to change. There is always a possibility for a candidate to take themselves out of a race by saying or doing something to hurt themselves (see Sen. George Allen’s (R-VA) ‘macaca’ comment, which suddenly put his seat into play). Also, the Republicans could be hurt severely by conservative discontent; if the conservative base stays home on Election Day, Republicans could suffer much more than this. Finally, I can get to my prediction. I predict the Republicans to lose four seats in the Senate, giving them a slim 51-47 majority, plus two Democrat-voting Independents in now-Rep. Bernie Sanders (VT), who is heavily favored to win the seat occupied by ‘Jumping’ Jim, and Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who will rebound from his primary defeat to retake his Senate seat in the general election. Some Republican incumbents will have scares. Sen. Allen will have a close race, as will Sen. Jim Talent (R-MO), but both will hold on. Republican Bob Corker, a former mayor of Chattanooga, will have a difficult race to hold onto the seat currently held by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN), but should win (Corker is a Republican in the South—that should be enough). The four seats that Republicans will probably lose are in Montana, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. A remarkable point to notice is that all four are races against Republican incumbents, not open seats. In Montana, one would think that Republican Senator Conrad Burns would be a shoo-in for re-election. One would think wrong. Burns, who seems to be a victim of self-inflicted Murphy’s Law of the mouth (if it is possible to say something politically damaging, Burns will say it), is considered an embarrassment for many in the state. It also does not help matters that Burns is connected with Jack Abramoff. Montana’s next Senator will be current Democrat State Sen. Jon Tester. In Rhode Island, liberal Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee barely managed to hold off a primary challenge from conservative Steve Laffey. After a hard-fought and expensive primary, there are plenty of questions left unanswered. Will Chafee have enough money to run a successful general election campaign? Will Chafee manage to reunite the ten percent of Rhode Island voters who are registered Republicans, after 45% of them voted against him in the primary? I think the answer to both is no. This bluest of blue states will elect Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse to be their next Senator. In Pennsylvania, conservative Sen. Rick Santorum is being hurt badly by his affiliation with President Bush. He has never even been close to his opponent, Democrat State Treasurer Bob Casey Jr. (named after his father, a popular former governor). Casey is helped significantly not only by his name, but by his pro-life views that help Casey eat into Santorum’s base of social conservatives. Santorum has received a recent bounce in the polls, with some showing him within five points of Casey, but other recent polls still have him as far as 18 points down. Pennsylvania voters will elect Bob Casey Jr. to be their next Senator. In Ohio, Republican Sen. Mike DeWine will be the victim of very strong anti-Republican sentiment in that state. A very unpopular Republican Governor, along with a guilty plea by Republican Rep. Bob Ney associated with his activities involving Abramoff, puts the Republican Party in dire straits in Ohio. Add DeWine’s moderate to liberal views, which commonly anger conservatives, to the mix and there is not much hope that he will be able to turn out the conservative base. DeWine’s opponent, Rep. Sherrod Brown, will be the next Senator from the state of Ohio. So there you go. Those are the four seats that Republicans will lose this November. I hope nobody plans on the Senate accomplishing anything in the last two years of the Bush Administration…
Jeff Scott is a radio talk show host. He is on Mercer Radio (radio.mercer.edu) every weekday from 4-6pm.
By Jeff Scott
September 28, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this
Senate Predictions: Republicans Lose Four Seats
With Democrats smelling Republican blood in the water this election season, many observers think that the Dems might actually take over Congress after the November elections, which would spell trouble for President George W. Bush’s agenda over the last two years of his Presidency. In this column we will be looking at the Democrats’ chances of taking over the United States Senate.
For the Democrats to take a majority of the seats in the Senate, they would have to take control of six seats currently held by Republicans. That is especially difficult this year, with only 15 Republican seats up for grabs, along with 17 Democrat seats and the seat being left by the retiring Independent ‘Jumping’ Jim Jeffords (I-VT). Such odds do not discourage the chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Charles Schumer (D-NY) from making bold predictions of a Democrat pickup of nine seats. It is widely predicted that Republicans will lose some seats, but how many?
That, my friends, is where I come in. I will look into my crystal ball (actually, I don’t need a crystal ball—polling data and my brilliant and well-trained intellect will suffice) and tell you what should happen in November. This is, of course, subject to change. There is always a possibility for a candidate to take themselves out of a race by saying or doing something to hurt themselves (see Sen. George Allen’s (R-VA) ‘macaca’ comment, which suddenly put his seat into play). Also, the Republicans could be hurt severely by conservative discontent; if the conservative base stays home on Election Day, Republicans could suffer much more than this. Finally, I can get to my prediction. I predict the Republicans to lose four seats in the Senate, giving them a slim 51-47 majority, plus two Democrat-voting Independents in now-Rep. Bernie Sanders (VT), who is heavily favored to win the seat occupied by ‘Jumping’ Jim, and Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who will rebound from his primary defeat to retake his Senate seat in the general election.
Some Republican incumbents will have scares. Sen. Allen will have a close race, as will Sen. Jim Talent (R-MO), but both will hold on. Republican Bob Corker, a former mayor of Chattanooga, will have a difficult race to hold onto the seat currently held by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN), but should win (Corker is a Republican in the South—that should be enough). The four seats that Republicans will probably lose are in Montana, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. A remarkable point to notice is that all four are races against Republican incumbents, not open seats.
In Montana, one would think that Republican Senator Conrad Burns would be a shoo-in for re-election. One would think wrong. Burns, who seems to be a victim of self-inflicted Murphy’s Law of the mouth (if it is possible to say something politically damaging, Burns will say it), is considered an embarrassment for many in the state. It also does not help matters that Burns is connected with Jack Abramoff. Montana’s next Senator will be current Democrat State Sen. Jon Tester.
In Rhode Island, liberal Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee barely managed to hold off a primary challenge from conservative Steve Laffey. After a hard-fought and expensive primary, there are plenty of questions left unanswered. Will Chafee have enough money to run a successful general election campaign? Will Chafee manage to reunite the ten percent of Rhode Island voters who are registered Republicans, after 45% of them voted against him in the primary? I think the answer to both is no. This bluest of blue states will elect Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse to be their next Senator.
In Pennsylvania, conservative Sen. Rick Santorum is being hurt badly by his affiliation with President Bush. He has never even been close to his opponent, Democrat State Treasurer Bob Casey Jr. (named after his father, a popular former governor). Casey is helped significantly not only by his name, but by his pro-life views that help Casey eat into Santorum’s base of social conservatives. Santorum has received a recent bounce in the polls, with some showing him within five points of Casey, but other recent polls still have him as far as 18 points down. Pennsylvania voters will elect Bob Casey Jr. to be their next Senator.
In Ohio, Republican Sen. Mike DeWine will be the victim of very strong anti-Republican sentiment in that state. A very unpopular Republican Governor, along with a guilty plea by Republican Rep. Bob Ney associated with his activities involving Abramoff, puts the Republican Party in dire straits in Ohio. Add DeWine’s moderate to liberal views, which commonly anger conservatives, to the mix and there is not much hope that he will be able to turn out the conservative base. DeWine’s opponent, Rep. Sherrod Brown, will be the next Senator from the state of Ohio.
So there you go. Those are the four seats that Republicans will lose this November. I hope nobody plans on the Senate accomplishing anything in the last two years of the Bush Administration…
Jeff Scott is a radio talk show host. He is on Mercer Radio (radio.mercer.edu) every weekday from 4-6pm.
By jbmlaw
September 28, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this
Good try CJ, but you don’t look far enough. By “prior to Bush’s first inauguration” you are surely not acknowledging what the Democrats have long denied, that the economy was in free-fall during the 2000 election, nor that stock prices were artificially inflated due to the tech bubble? You also failed to mention what kind of bubble you see now; of course, there are no analysts who cite any industry bubble now. The stock prices now, unlike six years ago, are real; must be disheartening for you. As to the “disinflation” I cited, I know you Keynesians are frightened of a strong dollar (and even my beloved WSJ worries about the short-term effects of disinflation when there is an election looming). Commodities outperforming industrials, outside the context of a recession (surely you are not arguing that 4% unemployment is a recession?), always signals a coming stock market boom. Bet on it. (And your real estate drops are exclusively in areas where growth has exceeded 20% over the preceding two years – be real, it’s a pause, not a falling sky.)
By time for the truth
September 28, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
Rednekkks
I am of course a devout practising agnostic, not an atheist, not yet anyway. A microscopic thanks for the unsurprisingly decidedly patronising and as ever utterly unfounded arrogance encapsulated in your grudging “acknowledgment of potential”.
World peace of course simply wont occur until we brave and fearless neocons have utterly vanquished the duskier and deranged (liberals) races.
So to you humour is endlessly asserting that several folks on the forum centre right are homosexuals/inbred/illiterate/uncouth/southern etc? That’s funny one or twice - maybe? Not everyday, all day.
Obviously my comedic offerings are usually tailored quite specifically (and proffered largely in response) to what I encounter here. Always mindful of the (self imposed) limits that the far leftist ajc, Jim and general decency expect.
I struggle through life safe in the comforting knowledge that if there is a god he is a REAL football and cricket loving Englishman from the Thatcher era!! … smirk Lord Tebbit being a superlative role model for us all.
By time for the truth
September 28, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this
jbm
the reason why we focused on similar points earlier about the impending GOP victory is that these are the obvious to cite when the lefties collectively choke on their November kool aid.
By Pope redneck Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this
I struggle through life safe in the comforting knowledge that if there is a god he is a REAL football and cricket loving Englishman from the Thatcher era!! … smirk
A butch lesbian she-devil God like Maggie Thatcher?? - that’s really out there tftt/tommy!
Once again - good on ya - but if that’s how Heaven is, I’m more than happy with Hell.
Football would be fun though (watching, I watched the Italian fascisti - as a conservative racist, weren’t you proud of their straight-arm salutes in the stadium Hitler commissioned for the 1936 Berlin Olympics - beat the French in the World Cup in an outdoor cafe near Bucharest), and maybe in a few decades even a superior mind like mine could figure out cricket scoring …
By CJ
September 28, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw –
First, recessions are measured by GDP, not unemployment.
Second, you continue to soil on your already soiled reputation by ignoring signals you don’t like such as “disinflation” (despite your “beloved” WSJ’s assessment) and misstating the meaning of others such as the rising price of gold and commodities outperforming industrials, which as you state, can occur in the context of a recession.
Third, your real estate statistic is old. No, the sky isn’t falling, but RE prices are - nationwide by 1.7%. Yes, even in southern and midwestern cities where growth had been more moderate.
By Pope redneck Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this
As long as we are the subject of genderbending conservative Englishwomen, I imagine you were a strong supporter for the restoration of Edward VIII, despite the fact s/he was a wo/man with a past. Given its strong ties to Hitler, many of the problems of present day England could have been avoided with Mr. Wallis-Simpson on the English throne, don’t you think?
And, if they’d been able to spawn, the Wallis-Simpsons’ child could have been not only King of England, but pResident of these United States!
I don’t often indulge in alternative history, but think of the implications for conservatism…
By CJ
September 28, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
Oh — jbmlaw —
With regard to your analysis of stock prices, economic growth during the Clinton years was “artificial”, but lack thereof during the Bush years was “real”??? Pathetic.
By time for the truth
September 28, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this
A butch lesbian she-devil … Damn - I thought you were going to vote for HiTllary? …huge smirk
Its Baroness Thatcher to pinko scum like you rednekkks!!
As a far left bigot I’m sure you drool over the slaverings of klansman Byrd and the demoNcrat racists who opposed the civil rights act and the demoNcrats who did nothing to remove confederate symbols from their state flags in AR and TN.
Real Football i.e. Association Football is both the greatest game on earth and the highest art form known to man.
Cricket is way beyond most colonials - just quietly envy us Brits our role as inventor of ALL sports that mean anything to the world.
By time for the truth
September 28, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this
The King abdicated and became a pariah for his political views and his adulterous relationship with an American commoner. He died in France a broken man.
Tell us about the criminals in the Kenendy kkklan and the Clinton kkklan - rape, corruption, organised crimne, racketeering, sexual harassment, presidential pardon selling, abuse of power, theft of White HOuse property - (whaich was only returned when the media stepped in).
Besides you colonials love the Royals - only Jap tourists outnumber Americans fawning outside the English palaces hoping to catch even a fleeting glimpse of someone blue blooded.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 28, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this
No, Hillary never had much of a hold on me and she lost me for good when she supported the flag burning amendment crap. Since I’ve never had to bow (or, in your case - curtsey) before a King or a Queen, and since the flag is not a sacred object to me, I have a right to burn one (or many) if I am so inclined.
So, you bow to the Baroness if you must - kiss her feet. She’ll spank you and put you to bed with just some canned fish for supper, and you’ll be in ecstasy. But not me.
By time for the truth
September 28, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
Actually one doesn’t bow to a Baroness - or in your case curtsey. I am NOT a Royalist at all. Every one - except obviously liberals and mohammedan fascists etc - are equal in my world view.
HiTllary is evil, corrupt and dishonest to the core, has a paranoid phobia about answering awkward questions that require honesty and truth telling … and will not be President.
By Hypocrite
September 28, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this
You can stop with the Christian crap now
Puke.
By Markus
September 28, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
Screamin’ Chicken Dean “fires up” Democrat base in Austin, Texas, then says they are going to “take” Texas. ‘Scuse me while I wipe the spewed soda off my laptop. That’s like Scream coming to Virginia Highlands and saying they are going to take Georgia. Laughable delusions.
“We’re going to Highlands, and then Midtown, and then Five Points, and then Decatur, and then we’re going to take Georgia and then we’re going to take the entire election… YEEEAEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!”
By Markus
September 28, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
War means death, hypocrotimus. Oh sure, like those terrorists are going to treat any of ours with respect if we do so to theirs. Sure, they’ll abide by Geneva even though they aren’t binded to it. Liberal pantywaste appeasement idiots.
By JOHN HENRY
September 29, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this
IT IS THE “CONSERVATIVES” WHO ARE THE COWARDS. MANY OF OUR ANCESTORS HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED FOR THE PROVISIONS IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE SUBSEQUENT CIVIL WAR AMENDMENTS. NOW THE COWARDLY RIGHT THROWS AWAY THE CONSTITUTION TO BE SAFER. SHOW SOME BALLS AND TAKE A RISK TO PRESERVE OUR WAY OF LIFE AND CONSTITUTION.
By Correction
September 29, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this
Screaming chikenhawk Markus……….”BAAAAAAAAAWWWWWKKK!!!!”