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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thinking Right’s free-for-all Friday. Pick a topic:
• Of course the city administrator of McDonough, population 15,523, should be paid more than the governor. He’s got to prepare the city for the population and tourism explosion that will come when the nearby Lovejoy commuter rail line opens.
• Loser leftist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, defeated in this year’s presidential campaign in Mexico, forms a shadow government in the streets, complete with Cabinet positions and a treasury. Of the duly elected president, he said: “They can have their bootleg institution and their spurious president, but they can’t have … our conviction. We will never give up.” CNN does cover the world and plant American ideas abroad.
• There are always dangerous fools on the world scene, as Venezuelan President Hugh Chavez revealed himself to be in Wednesday’s address to the United Nations. His Bush-hating over-the-top rhetoric is, however, a reminder that domestic politics has been globalized. The Dixie Chicks-Jimmy Carter left doesn’t know where to stop, or which forums to choose, and neither does Chavez.
• A beautiful headline: “Disease detectives on trail of outbreak.” Bull’s-eye. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention doing precisely what it should.
• Lunacy reigns. That U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss’ comment that “If Gen. J.E.B. Stuart had better intelligence, we’d all be meeting in Richmond right now” generated a line of type or a minute of air time is evidence of political correctness run amok. That and that an election is near.
• Wonder how chat-room, pretend-pedophiles from one law enforcement agency avoid luring Internet pretend-pedophiles from another? So many are gathered there.
• Left, right and center agree: There ought to be a law. Proposals to borrow money or to impose local-option sales taxes should only be on the ballot during a primary or general election — or, I’d allow, during the month of April. It is absurd to schedule one less than two months before a general election, when hordes of voters will be coming to the polls.
• Aw, pshaw. Liberal Democrats won’t allow capital punishment for repeated child sex abusers, as Lt. Gov. Mark Taylor proposes. He knows that. It’s near-impossible to get the death penalty, even for murderers.
• A national government-sponsored voter ID by 2010, recommended by a commission headed by Democrat Jimmy Carter and Republican James Baker, is good. But a free state-required voter ID now, as passed by the Georgia General Assembly, is bad, sayeth the Democrats. And requiring photo ID is unconstitutional because it is a “prerequisite” to voting, but requiring other forms of ID isn’t, says a Fulton judge. My, my. How the opponents do contort themselves.
• Headline: “Military stages coup in Thailand.” Possible here? Not in my lifetime, but yes. The prerequisites: 1. The generals can trust the privates to do what they order, lawful or not. 2. Military service is not a shared national experience. 3. Those in uniform start distrusting civilian leaders. We aren’t immune.
• CDC grumblers get a 24-hour hotline. Shouldn’t somebody declare an open-door policy? That’s what reformers always promise.
• Two of the good-sense members of the state transportation board, Mike Evans and David Doss, say tolls on existing Ga. 400 lanes should be prohibited after the road’s debt is settled in 2011. “The original deal was the tolls would come off when the bonds were paid off, and that’s in 2011,” said Evans, the chairman. “And I think really for public confidence in the system that has to be what happens.” That nails it. On this and all other transportation/congestion issues, it’s a matter of trust. Can decision-makers be trusted to spend money wisely? If not, taxpayers can’t — or shouldn’t — give them another dime. Trust.
• Four Asian students were attacked and robbed in three separate incidents near the MARTA Five Points station in the past month. Hate crimes? Since their attackers are generic “three to five young males” and possibly “one or two females,” no hate crime suspicions are raised. Otherwise, if it’s a minority attacked and the perpetrators aren’t that minority, it’s presumed to be a hate crime. Them’s the rules. Are we going to have hate crimes or not?
• A Norcross man has six wives. Don’t jail him. Require him to support them.
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By Mid-South Philosopher
September 22, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
Several items to deal with today:
“Georgie” Bush has his faults. I have criticized him for many of them ranging from his support of those parts of the No Child Left Behind Act that are illogical… to his “tardy” arrival at realizing that something needs to be done about our “porous” borders… to the fact that he never met a Congressional “spending” bill he didn’t like.
That being said, I don’t need Hugo “Bozo” Chávez to point President Bush’s shortcomings out to me. This “buffoon” has dreams of being the next Simón Bolivár of Venezuela. Sorry “Bozo,” I have read about Simón Bolivár. I have studied the political life of Simón Bolivár. You, sir, are no Simón Bolivár. Neither are you worthy to shine Bolivár’s shoes nor to clean his restroom!
And as for criticizing the President of the United States…if I want “your” opinion, I’ll give it to you. Now, waddle back to Venezuela.
SLOST questions only at primary or general elections?
I would go so far as to say at “general” elections only. However, I have no sympathy for fools that fail the franchise to exercise.
J. E. B. Stuart’s intelligence officers?
Given the “weapons of mass destruction” in Iraq fiasco, maybe they are still working in the American intelligence community!
Gangsters in New York?
I was struck by just how much the aides and bodyguards of Iranian President Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nej-ad resemble the movie and T.V. portrayals of “goodfella” soldiers.
One only has to look into the eyes of this individual to grasp a glimpse of his soul. He is a dangerous man, and sooner or later he will have to be dealt with.
Norcross man with six wives?
I need some of what he is drinking. It must make sour mash seem like Kool-aid!
By Mid-South Philosopher
September 22, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this
I really don’t repeat myself that often. Technology went awry this morning. Sorry for the triple post!
By candide
September 22, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this
Chavez spoke the truth: the Devil is the father of lies, a role Bush admirably fulfills.
By Dana
September 22, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this
Good Morning! I see we have some issues with posting today (I did it yesterday somehow too)
Jim, I think you may just be surprised how democrats feel about child molesters. THIS democrat thinks they should be freed back into society. However, society should know the exact date and time, and it should coincide with a police training excercise elsewhere in the county/state. I think capital punishment is too easy for them. But then, I am not your typical Democrat, I imagine. And I work (volunteer) with children, so any thought of harm coming to them makes me ill. This democrat thinks rape should be a capital crime as well, but I don’t imagine it ever will.
Stop the tolls when paid - it is, after all what they promised, and yes, some of us do pay attention. (and I drive on 400 for 2 exits and pay the toll every day)
Chavez is an idiot. I don’t like GW either, but Chavez’ opinion is totally worthless, and I have to wonder how well an American politician spouting similar sentiments about Chavez would fare should he/she attempt it while in Venezuela. I suspect we’d never know what happened to them.
By sheila
September 22, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this
Would you idiots give me a break. Don’t get mad because Chavez told the truth. And its obvious that old Jim Wooten is one of those idiots whose dumb enough to still support Bush. You stuck up snubs who insists on supporting idiots over the truth just because the bearer of truth is foreign really need to go jump off a building somewhere
By jbmlaw
September 22, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this
Good morning, all. Just when things look dark for Bush, he gets an incredible run of good luck, topped by Chavez’s lunatic ramblings. Did he not remind us all of the Castro-like character in Woody Allen’s Bananas?
I respectfully disagree with Jim’s prerequisites for military coup in the US. (1) Absence of pre-military ethics training for the soldiers. (2) Military leaders distrust the elected leader. That’s all it would take. Presence or absence of “shared military” experience is irrelevant. Unless our culture takes steps to ensure our youth learn Kantian right from wrong, the possibility is there, and I suggest is growing daily.
The Norcross fellow will never get a chance to support all of those wives. My guess is that they will corner him in a room, and he may never escape alive.
Have a great weekend. I do not expect to be able to return today.
By Dana
September 22, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this
lol… Get a grip there Sheila! It’s early, can we save the nastiness for a little later in the day? And try actually READING posts before you slam them! Neither of us are Bush supporters… I didn’t consider Chavez worthy of respect prior to his comments, and I find him less so after.
By modestd
September 22, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this
Wow Sheila you are so insightful! Is there any way you can compose an argument that is not full of fallacies?
By Van
September 22, 2006 08:45 AM | Link to this
candide,
I see, that runt from South America is right and the voters of the US are as dumb as dirt.
I am glad to see where you stand concerning our country.
Why we even let Mahmoud Ahmadinejad into this country is beyond me. several of the Iranian hostages have id’ed Ahmadinejad as one of the leaders of those that attacked the embassy and held them hostage.
By Buffalo Bob
September 22, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this
I would get behind the Voter ID law if they CLOSED THE LOOPHOLE for absentee voting. If it is essentail to the the intergrity of our democratic process to prove you’re a citizen and to ensure fraud is not committed, why would you make it easier to vote WITHOUT AN ID?
Now, absentee ballots don’t even require a reason to vote absentee.
You see, why democrats really don’t like this bill is because it’s CONTRADICTORY in nature. You can’t espouse how important it is to show an ID, then have one way that requires no ID - it doesn’t make sense.
Here’s what you do, if you know you will be unavailable on election day, or can’t be bothered to vote on that day, you should have to show an ID to pick up an absentee ballot. Therefore, everyone always has to show an ID, no ands if or buts.
Also allow an exemption for active duty military seving oversees.
Do this and I’ll get behind this law. If not, I challenge any conservative to produce ANY REASON why absentee voters need not show an ID, at some point to vote, when everyone else has to.
By David
September 22, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this
I really do not understand. What is wrong with having to prove who you are to vote. If you write a check at Wal-Mart you have to show ID. Why not at Voting Places? I am in full support it. It will close the questions in reference to voter fraud. One vote per person.
By Jim Wooten
September 22, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this
Morning Philosopher, Dana, jbmlaw and others. We do, as Dana noted, have a slight delay in publication.
By Van
September 22, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this
Dana,
Just the usual assortment of pro-dictator children. Like those that “love” Castro, there will always be folks that wish we had someone like a Chavez, Castro or a Mugabe to run our country. I can only guess that they need someone to tell them everything they have to do.
By Ed
September 22, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this
Woa Sheila, even Democrats are saying Chavez stepped over the line. Whether you are a Repblican or Democrat we are still a family. My brother and I don’t get along all the time but if you come in to our house and try to throw either one of us under the bus we’re BOTH coming after you.
By James
September 22, 2006 08:55 AM | Link to this
-Mcdonough’s Mayor being paid more than the governor.
That’s silly…for now…I’ve stated on here before, Henry County is a hotbed of present, and future development. I work with major developers every day and the interest has moved from the north side to ANYthing south of the city.
-Chavez
He’s a fool (and anybody else) for simply believing that the Devil even exists. Funny that its the libs condemning him the most. We can talk about our dumbass Prez, but anybody outside the family better STFU!
Child Molesters Sexual predators one word for ya…castrating!
Military Coup in USA Probably won’t happen..but Dems could give a damn..and Republicans on listen to the military when they agree and take orders. They try and destroy them when they don’t..John Kerry, Gen. W. Clark, and the latest Gen. Colin Powell. Have you listened to Limbaugh lately?
By Van
September 22, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this
Buffalo Bob,
As someone said in the Letters to the Editor this morning, the problem is with the registration of voters.
When Pedro uses a phony SSN to get a drivers license, he checks a box on the form to register to vote. It is that easy.
Get rid of Motor-Voter and make folks prove their citizenship and it might make it a little bit better
By Dana
September 22, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this
B Bob - EXCELLENT point! And this points up a bit of my frustration with this forum - it’s frequently less an issue of “those leftists always/never” than it is an instance of only half the issue being discussed.
Jim - I only posted once, your server is doing some strange things - someone on your tech team needs to take a look at where posters are directed afterwards - I’m not coming back to your page, I’m going to page not found….
By Realist
September 22, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this
If some of the posters in here, who stand up for a Marxist Socialist anti-American over our own government, are any indication of how far gone the left is, Chavez may be correct. This may be the beginning of the end for America. People like Chavez and Ahmadinejad are attempting to be the catalyst for a class and ideological war and division among Americans, just as there is many other parts of the world. The media and the blind followers of the left are playing right into thier hands and its treasonous and disgusting.
The leftists wonder why Bush and republicans are eager to go to war and drop bombs? This is why. Because you idiots are either so blind you do not see, or either you truly are socialist like Chavez. Either way, it has to be fought and stamped out by men with power and guns becuase it cant be allowed to continue to breed and multiply. CNN is doing more for thier effort than anyone ever could. I beginning to think that the enemy is not in the middle east, but right here in America.
Btw Jim, Regarding your pedophile internet sting question, police agencies conduct those stings with certain guidlelines in order to get a lawful conviction. They arent allowed to solicit the unlawful statements or acts, the suspect party must initiate it. If police were on both sides unknowingly talking to each other, the conversation would never become unlawful because neither would initiate it. Dateline NBC did a long series on this and they detailed how it all works.
By Political Foreskin
September 22, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this
The Dixie Chicks see Chavez for what he is: a lyricist
The norcross man has six Chicks-he-Dicks? My wife smells like vics vapo rub, if he can stand it, make it seven. Then make him governor. Just take my wife, please.
By Seriously
September 22, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this
Relax people. Looks like the PC police is in full force today.
Stop with the politically correct nonsense. Chavez can say what he wants.
By Curious Observer
September 22, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this
Amen to closing the loophole for absentee voting.
Put the focus on legitimate registration, where proof of citizenship ought to be required, and stop allowing people to vote by mail without first presenting proof of both citizenship and vitality. Republicans seem to want people who show up at the polls, especially blacks and poor people, to present proof, but somehow they can’t get around to requiring people who want absentee ballots—largely their upper- and middle-class supporters—to show proof that they are who they say they are and that they are, in fact, even alive. If there was really an interest in ensuring that all voters are qualified, the Republicans would be focusing on absentee voting, where the opportunity for real fraud occurs. How do they even know that Grandma, dead for ten years, is not regularly voting by absentee ballot?
Until I see a focus on absentee balloting as well as balloting at the polls, I will continue to dismiss the photo-ID law as yet another Republican stunt to suppress minority voting.
By Bo
September 22, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this
I see there’s a few really stupid posters up and at it this early and they are female. I am glad Bush didn’t respond to the third world idiot Chavez; I mean come on….his audience was a bunch of Harlem leftist. Bush is light years above responding to that idiotic audience. Voter ID cards, you bet! You have to have a photo ID to cash a check or board a plane, you should have one to vote, it’s 2006 people, get with the program. A few left over entitlement relics from the civil rights movement has highjacked a progressive idea and they found a stupid enough court with a personal agenda to go along with them. Dumb has no boundries. This only shows me where the fraud is really coming from. Barnes, get over it buddy. Sonny beat you just like he’ll beat Taylor, this is a new day in Georgia, a new day under the dome. We’re more about fighting crime and and improving both our schools and economy, more so than renaming streets and buildings that already have a perfectly good name. Hate crimes don’t apply in Atlanta unless the victim is black, look at the court documents, they’ll back me up. Thats all the law was intended for, sad but true. Perhaps the thugs were literally trying to beat the brains out of the Asian students, God knows the thugs needs one. Had it been black students beat up, oh lord….JJ and Al would still be yelling with a bullhorn on Bill Campbell Parkway. Oh, it’s not renamed yet, oops. Thats next weeks post.
By Watta Load
September 22, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this
It doesn’t matter what we think if Chavez…he wasn’t talking to us (the US)…what matters is what the rest of the world thinks of him…they apparently thought he was funny…(I watched his speech..it was tongue and cheek concerning devilish Bush and the rest of it was just a rant). Bush can dismiss the words of Chavez but he should take a pulse of the globe to measure how much sympathy Chavez has.
By Van
September 22, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this
Realist,
I do agree with you on this issue, about the “elected” leaders of the likes of Chavez and Ahmadinejad. And then the AJC does a front page story like this morning. I wish the AJC would do a puff piece like that about our leaders. Great photo of the kidnapper of our Embassy hostages, big, front and center of the front page.
By Joe
September 22, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this
What kind of person would support someone like Chavez coming to our contry bashing our President? People who don’t deserve to breath free air. Get your skanky butts on the next plane and go live in some sewage infested, corrupt third world nation, you’re not good enough to live near me. You’re like dog crap, I try to avoid it but sometimes its on my shoes and I have to remove it, no matter how.
By Political Foreskin
September 22, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this
The death penalty should be preserved only for chat-roomers who employ onomatopoeia. If we convict a pedophile, we simply turn him over to one of the 2000 sleeper-cells Bush claimed Al Ka Ka had hidden among us in his rush to begin the million tank march to baghdad. Then, we can watch the death penalty on the internet. It……..could…….WORK!!!
By Dana
September 22, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this
Realist - I agree in principal to much of your 9:07 post - but I have real issues with your “Either way, it has to be fought and stamped out by men with power and guns becuase it cant be allowed to continue to breed and multiply.” comments - I don’t want to live in a dictator state, and you take such a hard line that it makes me wonder if you do.
By Liberal
September 22, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
Liberals have taken a more aggressive stance against Chavez’s comments than conservatives. Like other posters said, we don’t like it if someone else comes into our house and picks fights with one of us, no matter their political persuasion.
In regards to the Asian students robbed near Five Points, if their is a proven or alleged motive behind the attacks in regards to race/ethnicity, then yes, it should be prosecuted as a hate crime. Hate crimes are not only attacks on minorities, but can also be attacks on whites just because of their race or ethnicicty. I fully support “hate crimes” legislation. Anybody is capable of being racist or bigoted.
The skepticism behind voter ID legislation is totally justified. You know that voter discrimination did not happen that long ago when you can ask the previous generation in your family how it felt to not be able to vote. Think about it…how skeptical would you be had one of your most cherished Constitutional rights been denied from you. People on here get in an uproar about increased taxes…how about not being able to vote. Drivers Licenses and other forms of ID are fine.
In regards to GA 400…get rid of the tolls in 2011 as orginially proposed. In fact, take those toll booths from GA 400 and put them on GA 316 where road upgrades are long overdue.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this
Seriously,
Chavez “saying what he wants” has nothing to do with “political-correctness”.
Political-correctness is a propaganda tool for cultural Marxism. It is the exact opposite of free speech and is in fact a form of tyranny.
By Political Foreskin
September 22, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this
Doesn’t Chavez remind you of one of the two cats who sang on the pop video, “Macarena”?
Heeeeyyy, Macarena.
I never could actually do the Macarena. Hell, I’m still trying to learn the Twist. I understand the choreographer of the one dance I could do, “The Freddy”, has died. Of course. Now you cant do that dance cause when you do everyone thinks you’re dissin’ the dead, and they boo you off the disco round.
There is a death curse that my act is under, folks. Wait to you get a load of this:
It started with the Kennedys. At age 10, I could do JFK better than the popular imitator who had a comedy album out of JFK impersonations. Then he died. End of gags. End of the admiration and worship I received from friends, family and casual acquaintances.
Then I had this killer bit about the Milli Vanilli guys. Dead. Rewrite.
Then, Back to the Kennedy’s. I had this amazing bit about Michael Kennedy and the underaged baby sitter he supposedly cranked. I did Uncle Ted Kennedy, coming to his defense, “Some men see underaged girls as they are, and say, “no way”. My nephew saw underaged girls as they could be…and said, “why not”.” Dead. Everyone hated me…
Ditto Sonny Bono. Killer bit. Gone. There were many, many more where the subject of my best laughs died.
I almost began to imagine that I was like the grim reaper or the chosen one or something, but then I came up with this bit about Joan Rivers, and she’s indestructible, and looking younger and stronger every day. I even bought one of her sassy earrings on QVC.
Katie Couric goes into a bar……..
By Redneck Convert
September 22, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
I say kick the UN out of the US. That way, we won’t have to let people like Chavez and that Iran fellow with the funny name into the country. And save the death penalty for people that agree with them. It’s only a matter of time before we have to start using the needle on libruls anyway. Might as well start now.
I ruined a good TV set the other night when I saw that Chavez fellow calling my president the devil. And it was awful hard to get my shoe out of all that broke glass, too. Everybody knows he ain’t the devil. If he was, then fine people like James Dobson and Jerry Falwell and Grover Norquist and Jack Abraham wouldn’t be meeting with him so often.
So let’s send the Second Marine Division down to Chavez’s country, take his oil, and leave him some dry holes. Then we can put him on trial like that Saddam guy. What makes him think he can say anything he wants in a country like this one?
By Hugo Chavez
September 22, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this
Ayer, tuvimos El Diablo aqui. Y huele como azufre todavia!
By Peter Hoover
September 22, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this
Why did Chavez even get a VISA to come to the US? We denied Yassir Arafat a visa once. Why not Chavez? He is just an ignorant fool. How dare he come into this country and speak like that. He must make Venezuelans proud.
All this country is doing is pumping $300,000,000.00 a day to our enemies in oil revenue.
Can’t anybody in the country see the need to go the way that Brazil did - and start using ethanol 85 and bio-diesel, both clean fuels, and for which we have a renewable source (corn and other agri-products)?
Brazil is now totally 100% free of imported oil. Ah, were it to be for the USA!
By Realist
September 22, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this
Liberal,
The Republicans have simply taken the moral high ground and refused to dignify that idiots remarks with a reply. I think that is good practice. The left are showing outrage in a effort to not come across as supportive. Silence may be construed as supportive of Chavez comments. Its all election time maneuvering.
I agree with you about needing a racial motive to prove that the Asian attacks were anything other than a normal crime. Why are we not able to apply that same common sense arguement when its blacks who get attacked or treated unfairly. There is a double standard and whether you will admit it or not we all know its true. Its dishonest and its shameful when they do it.
I think we can all admit that the liklihood of democratic voter fraud is much higher today than the liklihood of voter discrimination. Its been proven in the past two elections that the left employed some pretty low tactics to try to win. Thats the purpose of the ID requirement, not discrimiation. Its a sad state for a race of people if in 2006 in the United States they claim they are unable to get an ID or voter registration card. How on earth do you even live in AMerica without some form of ID? May as well still be living in the woods or under a bridge if that is the case.
I agree with you completely on ending the toll on 400. Im sure the money is being misappropriated somewhere anyway.
By Van
September 22, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this
Hugo Chavez
Hugo, si huele como sulfer, comprueba su propio extremo
By Realist
September 22, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this
hey hugo, I’ll have the speedy with beans and sweet tea. grassiass!
By Fall Line
September 22, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
Why the hubbub over Chavez? He’s just a joke. I wish that I could have been surprised by Danny Glover, but his warm embrace of Chavez was exactly what I expected. Al sharpton really surprised me though. Good on him. It seems that Glover’s only lethal weapon is his idiocy.
By Political Foreskin
September 22, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this
Put the toll booths in this blog: troll booths! The 5 neo-trolls who post fifty and sixty times each wont infect this blog if they have to pay. (Imagine people so simple that they molder on a blog 24/7 365 and create fiber fungus……….ew.)
50 cents a comment. That’ll kill the mildew.
These five trolls go into a bar…..
By JK
September 22, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this
Dana, you said, “I don’t want to live in a dictator state, and you take such a hard line that it makes me wonder if you do.”
I honestly believe that there are many among us who DO want to live in a Dictator state, including George W. Bush who said: “If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier…just as long as I’m the dictator…” —Washington, DC, Dec 18, 2000, during his first trip to Washington as President-Elect
His cheerleaders, (mostly bossy white men and women who have no identity beyond cheering for bossy white men), have been supporting this idea ever since, with their “Love it or leave it” and “You’re either with Bush or with the terrorists” and “our opinion is free speech but your opinion is treason” stance. Every day, they walk among us, traitors to the American Constitution, every one.
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
Go Van! That was awesome! (Of course I can’t read it, but I assume you know what you said!)
By Bo
September 22, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
Give Chavez a taco and feed him for a day, give him a weed-eater and feed him for a lifetime.
By seldom
September 22, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
I AGREE with Chavez 100%. The “Pres” has been acting like an international tyrant. I was born here, so I know the belly of the beast and how it bullies, and treats those who are not of the majority. I have seen it everyday of my life, and I am not some uneducated “minority”. I have a degree in Finance, and work in technology. I read and study history. If one is truthful with research and not one sided they will see the fact that america is an imperialist nation. Why else would military bases be located in other foreign countries? I doubt anyone would allow a foreign military base on US soil. That is just one example. I could go on and on…
By Enlist yet?
September 22, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this
Army recruiters are making more use of the Internet to attract young prospects, and the Army this year began allowing people as old as 42 to enter the service; the maximum age previously was 35.
The Army also has accepted a larger number of recruits whose score on a standardized aptitude test is at the lower end of the acceptable range, and it has granted waivers to permit the enlistment of people with criminal records that otherwise would disqualify them. The Army says it does not grant waivers if there is a pattern of criminal misconduct or for convictions of drug trafficking or any sexually violent crimes
Enlist yet?
By Liberal
September 22, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this
Realist,
I’m not sure that condemning Chavez for his comments was election-time maneuvering. I really do not like Bush, but I was really repulsed and offended by Chavez’s comments. I don’t think that it is far-fetched to believe the sincerity of the condemnations from Rangel and Boxer.
Is there a hate-crime double standard? I don’t know. I hope not. If there is, then measures should be taken for there not to be.
I don’t think “Democratic voter fraud” is any more prevalent than Republican voter suppression. Voter suppression is a proven fact. During the past two elections, leaflets mysteriously appeared in lower-income black communities telling people that Election Day is Wednesday, as well as removing large numbers of registered voters from the rolls because of possible felony convictions. There hasn’t been anything done to address that.
In regards to voter ID, there has to be some sort of middle-ground or resolution to ensure that everyone can vote with no problems, hassles, or inconveniences. It would be a shame if someone couldn’t vote because they lost or misplaced a card before the election or if it was inconvenient to get an ID. Also, what do you do with absentee voters? How can they show ID? Instead of instituting voter ID, why not do a cross check with the voting rolls and recently issued death certificates? Also they can make sure that no one is registered in more than two districts by matching SS numbers. This is the age of technology, so this shouldn’t be impossible.
By Michael
September 22, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
People would like to think Chavez is an idiot or a lunatic. A third world wannabe. Problem is that he’s politician and a good one. He knows the audience he’s speaking to and he knows how to make points with them. So the question Bush and America should be asking is who is he talking to and how are they reacting. This comes back to how we’re seen on the world stage and in the last eight years its become with less and less respect and even less trust of our methods and motives.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this
JK and Dana,
Thank you for pointing out the obvious drift toward a fascist dictatorship. The gop are responsible for this.
For those who do not want to live in a dictator state, vote Dem to stop it.
Thank you for your support.
By Th
September 22, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this
Growing up in the rural south, I’m often surprised by the ignorance of many posters here and elsewhere of how half the people of Georgia live. You don’t need a photo id to write a check in a Walmart when the cashier sings beside you in the soprano section at the First Baptist Church choir. Many people live a nice, long life in rural areas and never have a photo id, especially women. The problem is the requirements for getting these id’s. If there is a way for grandfathering or having others vouch for you were incorporated, I would be on your side and ready to do battle against going through nursing homes to get the mentally infirm to fill out absentee ballots or sending absentee applications along with a voting guide.
By JK
September 22, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this
Bo, you don’t know anything about me, my life, or my contributions. Your presumption is both ignorant and the epitome of arrogance. Go back to your donuts, you lardbutt.
By Realist
September 22, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this
Seldom, You obviously “seldom” study history or finance, because if you did, you would understand that the world very much depends on this “imperialistic” nation. If the US was to pull up stakes and reel it all in, the world would be faced with a humanitarian and economic crisis the likes of which have never been seen. Foreign military bases are located in other countries for more reasons than I care to explain here. Mainly for the quick mobilization of armed forces to protect our interests AND our allies interest in far away places. Another is for the quick mobilization of humanitarian aid in far away places. And to answer your other assinie question, why would America NEED a foreign military base on its soil? We are the worlds superpower. We have the worlds most advanced military, economy and free market system. We do not require miliary or humanitarian aid. I don’t mean to insult you, but your understanding of history must be somewhat limited considering your narrow points.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this
“Bush’s Sept. 15 outburst - threatening to stop interrogating terror suspects if Congress doesn’t let him revise the Geneva Conventions to permit coercive techniques - is part of a pattern of petulance.
In summer 2001, less than six months into his presidency while confronting congressional obstacles to his domestic program, Bush told followers that he was ready to “go back to Crawford” if he didn’t get his way on legislation.
Bush’s critics saw something else: a troubling self-centeredness more befitting an autocrat than a leader of a democratic Republic. To them, Bush was a callow, ill-prepared politician who seemed oblivious to the fact that he had risen to his exalted status because of family connections and tough political tactics, not through hard work and talent.
The critics noted that Bush’s sense of entitlement sometimes would spill out in his humor, when he’d put down people in his presence or he?d joked about his preference for autocracy. “If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator,” he quipped on Dec. 18, 2000.”
Please vote Dem to not make it so easy for w to be a dictator.
Thanks again for your support.
By Chazman
September 22, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
Classy reply Bo…so bossy white men invented the automobile, electricity, chip - so what’s your point? I’d say they had an advantage to be able to do that, you think? You think a black man in the early 1900’s could have invented the automobile? That would be hard to do out in the middle of a cotton field, or a tobacco field. Speaking of bossy white men, I think he made your point JK. I’ll wait on your abusive reply, Bo.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this
Like Pope Benedict XVI, truth that leaves my fingers inspires idiots to violence, so I have changed my screenname to Pope rednecks - Amerikkka’s Al Qaeda I (all praise be unto me).
Some points to ponder, you pussilaminous pusbrains -
1) It is bad enough you people are my fellow Americans, but I thank Gawd every day you moronic inbred animalistic imbeciles are NOT my family.
2) The floor of the United Nations building is NOT American territory.
3) Often lies are spoken at the UN building, witness Colin Powell and his WMD presentation.
4) Truths are spoken at the UN too. Dumbya is the Devil himself/herself, and he does smell funny, more like old fish than sulfur.
5) As a citizen, not just of the United States, but of the Planet Earth, I applaud Mr. Chavez’s comments.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this
We do not require miliary or humanitarian aid.
Katrina?
By Political Foreskin
September 22, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this
And now…from that song writing team of Natalie Manes and Hugo Chavez….”The Sound of BushSpin”.
“The Sound of BushSpin”—an opera buffa in one act.
Camera opens on Osama Bin Laden in a cave shooting at bats with a BB gun, but frustrated he keeps missing this one bat…”Damn it, who is this guy, Batman? Three extra virgins to whoever keels that bat!” ….. Camera to aides rolling their eyes. One steps forward, “Oh! Allow me, oh great one! I’ll keel the infidel bat”…
Scene switches to the oval office, Bush is swatting at a fly with a flyswatter, but frustrated that he keeps missing this one fly….lamps are being smashed….”Damn it, who is this guy, Superfly? I’ll give a supreme court nomination to whoever waxes that fly!”……. Camera to aides, rolling their eyes, one steps forward…..”Oh, If I kill the fly and overturn Roe-v-Wade can I have the nomination, sir?”
Scene switches to the UN assembly hall. Hugo Chavez is mugging at the microphone, the audience in tears and literally rolling in the aisles…..”Bush is the third fallen angel from the left in the satanic evolutionary chart….” Renewed crescendoes of laughs…..
Then camera pans in on Chavez as he breaks into song….”This hall is alive with the sound of Bushspin, with lies we have heard for a thousand years…. “
(sung to the tune of “The Sound of Music”.)
By getalife
September 22, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this
Chavez said w acts like he owns the world. The world is sick and tired of being bullied and disrespected. We need honest, compentent leadership who will not bully the world and talk to all leaders with respect.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this
Chavez and the Iranian Hitler really needed to be the victims of a REAL NYC Manchurian Candidate scenario.
Dana’s porkies about her supposed “moderate” politics continue … but at least finally now she is admitting she’s a “Democrat”.
As usual thuggish black yoofs in Atlanta attacking/mugging “other” folks is NOT a hate crime for the vile liberal/black race panderers, but any one not black voting to dump the hate pig McKinney for such bigots is either a racist or a jewish racist!!
Every time I hear that this knuckle dragging sore loser lefty Chocolate Labrador down Mexico way is as irrationally angry and bitterly resentful at a legitimate (narrow) defeat as the alBore was and still is I just LMFAO!! Maybe the alBore can tell him where’s a good place to eat and eat and eat and eat!!
Many lefty liberal states are AGAINST protecting children … just look at the leftist roll of shame on Jessica’s law - VT, HI, ME, NY, CA and so on.
Unhinged foreskin is still about as funny as a cup of cold vomit!!
Proper Voter ID to stop demoncrat voter fraud is vital for GA and every other state!!
The bloody Pope needs to stop apologising to racist killers and thugs about how violent their sexist oppressive religion is!!
Still no word on B Campbell’s gambling opportunities, prison food and prison romances. Happily the defeated bigot McKinney who fired a jewish lefty employee for being jewish is still out of the public view. Long may that continue!!
By k. douglas
September 22, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this
Viva Chavez!! The one who should feel insulted is the Devil. Lucifer should be really peeved that he is now keeping company with the likes of Dumbya. Seriously, though, I think the devil comparison is quite appropriate. It is indeed evil to use your position of awesome power to enter into an unneccessary military occupation that has cost the country almost 3,000 of our honorable military men and women, upwards of 50,000 wounded, and God only knows how many innocent Iraqi citizens, not to mention costing our national treasury close to 400 billion dollars, the devastating result of which will not be dealt with by this irresponsible and apathetic psychotic megalomaniac, but rather by future administrations and citizens. Of course, who cares about those trivial little details when all your corporate donors and fellow demons are having their pockets lined by your complete willingness to not only allow but create the avenues and opportunity for unlimited war profiteering. It is indeed satanic and evil to shamelessly abuse the well-intentioned support of your misguided followers to further your own greedy and selfish power hungry agenda…you say “support the troops” then cut funding for the VA, cut benefits for veterans, cut money for clinics that care for vets with brain injuries, allow Halliburton to give contaminated water to soldiers and overcharge the Defense Dept with no repercussions…You know, why the hell am I wasting my time? You people won’t learn until it is too late…Goodbye my dear America…Hello Amerikka. The United States of America lived a good life…1776-G.W.Bush.
By Van
September 22, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this
Michael,
The question I have is this. If Dictators and religious nut cases hates us, are we doing something wrong or right?
By Dana
September 22, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this
mmm - Bo, I am SO very impressed with your witty use of verbiage, and your ability to glean so much information about JK’s personal contributions to society based on 1 post!!!! WOW! I need you to come work for me!
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
I need you to come work for me!
Dana - I dont think Bo would want to work in a small Hall County cake decorating shop!!
By DD
September 22, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this
Viva Chavez! The world is with you, at least most of us are, who haven’t been brainwashed by fascism.
By Van
September 22, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this
k. douglas,
You couch ticket for Cuba, via Mexico City is available and waiting, just need an address to deliver it to.
By Dana
September 22, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this
TFTT - your point is? When I registered to vote - (the day I turned 18) I chose Democrat. Probably to p** off my parents, I can’t remember. I’m still a moderate, thought that seems to somehow bother you. At times I lean left, at times right. I vote my concience - I vote how I believe. I simply have a broader view than some people, a direct consequence of being open minded.
By Don
September 22, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Chavez is right about Bush because Bush and his cronies has done nothing but f*** this country up since the day they “stole” the election in 2000. This proves once again how weak and spineless the democrats are because it takes a foreigner to come over here and speak the truth which no one in congress and the senate won’t do. I can’t think of one positive thing that Bush has done and I’m a veteran so I usually try to support the president but I can’t do it on this count. His presidency has been based on fear and secrecy and anybody that called him out was labeled “unpatriotic” and the weak kneed democrats bought into it hook, line and sinker. This Iraq war has been nothing but a hige waste of money, effort, time and lives on both sides. We need to stop taking care of these other countries and focus entirely on the homefront. The whole Bush presidency has been one screwup after another. Hell, I thought his father was bad but he makes his dad seem like a statesmen in comparison.
By Buffalo Bob
September 22, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
After reading several posts I notice several support Voter ID to stop democratic fraud - but neither addresses the Absentee Ballot LOOPHOLE or why the Republians would include it if they desire to get rid of all fraud.
I think Van agrees it needs to be addressed and can meet on middle ground.
However, Realist and TFTT, I ask you do you favor, in an effort to control fraud, making absentee voters show an ID to recieve an absentee ballot?
If no, please explain why?
If yes, then we have reached an agreement, because I believe it isn’t to difficult for ANYONE who wants to vote IN ANY MANNER to get a Voter ID.
By Dana
September 22, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Ha ha ha! Oh TFTT! That was quick! Where IS Hall county anyway? A cake shop - not a bad idea - I don’t eat it so it might not be a bad business opportunity!
By R Cagle
September 22, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this
We live in age frought with identity theft, yet people are screaming that it vilolates their “rights” to be required to show a government issued picture ID at the toll booth in order to prevent their vote from being stolen.
Muslims riot, make death threats, and murder because they feel the Islam was dissed as a violent religion.
A blow hard South American dictator spews hatred and insults at our President and the Democrats come out of the wood work to defend him - our President that is. Although, many backhandedly justified Chavez’s comments as being understandable due to the President’s foreign policies.
Yep, nothing out of the ordinary the world this week.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
Van
send it to this moron care of the Max Cleland experimental treatment centre for badly bewildered liberals at the state mental hospital - it’ll find him there easy enough
By Realist
September 22, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this
No kidding Van. Id like to see some of them on a one way flight to Darfur!
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this
Nice try Dana … you are a self confessed democrat and still registered as one over 40 years later???? - I could care less about that of course and its of no real consequence - BUT your often quite frantic insistence on here that you’re NOT a lefty type is always pretty funny!!
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
The world has always been wary of American redneck idiotology. Here lately, they are more just weary of it, they see us as the flailing paper tiger we’ve become.
It started in Nam, when despite all of our fancy weaponry and our arrogant redneck Texass President, a determined foe ran us off. Our credibility was furthur undermined in the 80s when we went almost overnight from the world’s largest creditor to its largest debtor. Our national sanity was questioned when silly rednecks prosecuted a sitting President for a consensual affair with another adult.
Rednecks wanted their swagger back, somehow they thought a poor little rich nancy boy like George Dumbya Bush would give it to them - which says volumes about their masculinity, too.
The American Century was on life support when some criminals flew planes into big buildings on 9/11 - the rednecks’ nancy boy kept reading My Pet Goat… Then s/he declared War on Tare and tare-ists.
Then s/he declared War on Iraq, so the rednecks would feel good about themselves again. A few months later, the nancy boy landed onboard a ship, showing off its codpiece, declaring “Mission Accomplished”.
That was the day the American Century officially ended.
By James
September 22, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this
Funny Funny Funny…yet still sad because people believe in the boogie man aka devil
http://www.bushisantichrist.com/
By getalife
September 22, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
There you have it folks, the wingnuts like realfake, ban and lies wants us to be deported because we dare not to agree with their fascist mindset.
Let us vote these fascist gop out of office.
Thank you for your support.
By Realist
September 22, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this
Buff Bob, I have no issue with absentee voters being held to the ID requirement. From what I understand the majority of absentee ballots are military personel who learn early on that thier military ID is a vital peice of equipment. Not a problem there. We can distract from the real issue of voter fraud with allegations of absentee ballot misconduct, but it is what it is. ID is required by nearly every govt entity for thier services, why should something as important as assuring an accurate legal vote not be held to the same requirement. To fight against it is essentially supporting previous fradulent tactics.
By Dana
September 22, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this
LMFAO! How freaking old do you think I am Time? You’re off by a long shot! And why are you commenting on me at all? Why do you have to try to pigeon hole me (or anyone else for that matter)What difference does it make? Can’t we have a conversation as two intelligent adults who do not always agree? Or can you only behave respectfully to people who are exactly like you? I hope not, I thought more of you than that.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this
If the GOP doesn’t lose big in November - and I don’t think they will - within the next several months Castro and Chavez will make the recent meeting in Havana a permanent one. Several countries will leave the UN, and it will be relocated out of the US.
So, GOPers, your wish will come true.
By Buffalo Bob
September 22, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this
Excellent Realist - I agree. Middle ground is a wonderful place.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
Why do you have to try to pigeon hole me (or anyone else for that matter)What difference does it make
Because I can, because its fun, and because certain folks keep biting like good uns :)
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
Just thinking - you know, if Mr. Bill Clinton is our first black President, then Dumbya could be called our First Lady President…
By only half
September 22, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this
Van,
The US voters are not dumb as dirt.
Only slightly more than half of the US voters are dumb as dirt. You included.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
WHAY CANT AMERICANS ACTUALLY PRESENT LIVE TV COVERAGE OF THE RYDER CUP!!
These twonks on USA Network Cable TV are several hours behind … I’m having to listen to it live (for free) on the wireless coverage from Radio Five Live. At least the commentary is not as biased as on the USA coverage.
Good news if you’re wanting the Americans to lose … they are yet again losing!!
We Euros are currently up in the three afternoon matches and all square in one!!
By getalife
September 22, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this
Looks like Andy has finally shut down the freedom of speech on the Mike Luckovich blog.
He brags about it here
Yes, he is a member of the gop fascists who do not want freedom of speech in our country.
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this
Chavez should not be allowed into this country. Free speech does not include the right of another countryman coming onto our soil and speaking like that of our leader.
I appreciate the liberals who are willing to step up and say that Chavez was wrong. I don’t agree that Republicans should “not dignify with a response”. We should all be outraged! Regardless of party line.
Jim, I was thinking the exact same thing about Mark Taylor’s “death penalty”. I would love to see second time child sex predators face the death penalty, but I don’t believe the Democratic party would ever support that idea. It’s hard enough to put a murderer on death row.
James, surely you don’t subscribe to that hogwash on the website you posted?
On a serious note, and out of context, but can anyone tell me if it’s CITGO, or Chevron, that is connected to Venezula? I am seeing 2 different names on a lot of the news coverage and I don’t really know the history of the oil companies.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
The US voters are not dumb as dirt
The nasty extra chromosomed parasitic ones who robotically vote demoNcrat are!!
By jaybay01
September 22, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
Hugo Chavez should be praised for his willingness to speak out against our “jacked” up president. GW Bush is the same man who successfully stole the 2000 (& 2004) elections. Then GW tried to rub Chavez out in 2002 like the U.S. has done to sooo many foreign leaders. (Haiti, Iraq, Panama, Cuba, ect….) What we are witnessing is modern day colonialism. Our government no longer has any concerns about domestic issues. Our politicians are too scared to speak up. (Except for Cynthia McKinney and look what happened to her). Thank God for Chavez, Danny Glover & Harry Belafonte !!!!
By Van
September 22, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this
Folks,
I am sorry, but with all the “I hate America” crowd on this blog today, more than normal, I have to get something off my chest.
Grow up. You think this country is going down for the third time and you can’t wait. You hate your country so much that you don’t even want to try to save it. You want a fresh start with a good old fashion benovenent dictator.
Instead of working from within the system you want to cut and run away, well your kind has always been there, back in the 60’s you went to Canada because standing with your country was too hard and you were afraid. Guess what, we were all afraid, but some of us did the right thing and supported our country.
Today we are faced with more troubles than we were in the old days. Back then the bad guys were easy to spot and fight. Today we face a religion that says it is Peaceful, but resorts to violence when they are upset.
We have petty dictators that come to OUR country and insult our President by name. Talk about low class. In his speech Bush did not single out one world leader for critizism by name. A class act.
Today we have a generation that does not want to sweat to get a head, they would rather blame the “Man” for keeping them in low paying jobs and they want the government to force companies to pay them more. A living wage is a bad idea. Instead of getting a living wage, how about living within your wages. The rest of us do.
We all hear from the winers out there that bemoan everything about America, but will do nothing to help America. You spew about voter suppression, but fail to recognize the efforts of both Repulicans and Democrats in keeping the vote rolls accurate and ignore that fact that Democrats tried to suppress the absentee votes of our military.
All we hear is whining and no solutions, just talking points from Hugo.
Stop the whining and get with the program, help America, don’t add to the problems.
By Van
September 22, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this
only half,
Since you are not old enough to vote, go home.
It is gratifying to see what this country has produced in the way of strong, educated people. Only Half shows us why the world loves us. 60+ million people are too stupid to vote the way only half wants us too. Sounds like we have a budding dictator in our little blog.
By only half
September 22, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
Van.
Nice hissy fit.
TFTT. Yeah. The problems we face today are all the Democrats fault. Uhhhhh……OK. The Republicans are in charge of all three branches of government, can pass anything they want, have free rein in terms of policy, but its the other guys fault. The ones in the minority. Once again, uhhhhhhh…..OK.
Dumb as dirt.
By Markus
September 22, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this
Hey GITMOLIFE-
YOU tell us we’re stupid because we don’t “think” like you and swing to YOUR way of thinking you call US fascists?
YOU tell us we can’t send our children to alternative schools because it’s “unfair” to others and you call US fascists?
YOU tell us we can’t take a portion of our MANDATORY socialist security and handle it on our own and you all US fascists?
YOU support the marxist ideology of taxing the successful in this nation more and more to pay for YOU socialist entitlement bullsnot and you call US fascists?
Your world is upside down, hypocritical bass ackwards fool.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this
Well Van,
I see you conveniently do not talk about the Iraqi invasion and the decline of democracy after 9/11.
Talk about OBL, talk about the failed neocon policy, talk about the fascist mindset of the gop.
No, you talk about welfare even though we spend billions on Iraqi welfare. Hypocrite.
Why do you hate the freedom of speech?
By JK
September 22, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Van, do you feel better? I’m glad you got that off your chest. What you say is correct — about SOME people, I’m sure — but not at the vast numbers at whom you directed it. Do you think that those of us who come here to debate (I just come here to learn), and those who read a variety of news daily and discuss, and help register people to vote, and campaign for candidates, and question not only the news, but the decisions of our leaders — do you think we do this because we “hate” America? You’re flat wrong, Sir. Maybe we don’t believe what YOU THINK we should, but we do not hate America, and we DO care about the future, which is why WE STILL ARE fighting for what we believe in. I DID grow up, and I’m not going to Canada, Haiti, or anywhere else. I’m staying, and I’m digging in, so get over it.
By only half
September 22, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Van.
Nice hissy fit.
TFTT. Yeah. The problems we face today are all the Democrats fault. Uhhhhh……OK. The Republicans are in charge of all three branches of government, can pass anything they want, have free rein in terms of policy, but its the other guys fault. The ones in the minority. Once again, uhhhhhhh…..OK.
Dumb as dirt.
By candide
September 22, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this
I see that Van, the gay Christian, is defending America. Ha!
Americans are troubled by the comments of Chavez and Ahmadinejad because they have the ring of truth. There is no reason for other peoples to trust the perfidious USA, led by a criminal gang of Fascist Republicans.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this
Luckovich Censors Conservatives is Andy I mentioned above.
Andy,
Why do you hate freedom of speech like a true fascist?
By only half
September 22, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this
That’s right Van. 60+ million folks as dumb as dirt.
Congratulations.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this
There’s a story on page 1 of the AJC about Ahmadinejab. In northern Tehran he’s considered a rustic, a champion of conservative religious values.
In other words, Ahmadinejab is a redneck Iranian.
You redneck filth are destroying civilization.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this
My, my, Markus.
Why so angry Markus?
By Markus
September 22, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
• If extreme leftist liberal democrats had a say in things, we’d never have anyone incarcerated. You’ve heard the old adage from the neomarxist anti-American Harlem left (who hosted Chevez yesterday): “Arrest the evil white Republicans and free all our brothers in jail!” No, but seriously, the left’s mouth on dealing with criminals in this nation is nothing but a cream puff. “Even the most hardened criminal can be redeemed” they say. Only in a few individual cases. Ask flaming liberal Democrat Mike “hotshot tank commander wannabe” Dukakis about releasing murderers back into society. I say we do unto others as they have done unto us. Shoot someone in the head, get shot in the head in return. Jack someone upside their head and steal their wallet, get jacked up in the head in return. Fortunately however, ever so often criminals get their own at the hands of the law or an armed citizen. Each and every time I hear a story like that, where a scumbag perpetrator is cooling off, if you will, it warms my heart like a November evening fire and a nice cognac.
•The irony of Democrats and voting accountability. They don’t want you to have to prove your identity and therefore legitimacy to vote, but by damn that vote machine had better be able to back op that vote! Democratic Rep. Loretta Sanchez got a narrow victory in a traditionally Republican South California district thanks to illegal Mexican votes. Hypocrites.
• Liberals and Democrats already THINK we’ve had a coup in this nation. They already THINK we’ve become some sort of dictatorship. The angry left both in Washington and in blue states cannot stand being out of power, so therefore, this nation has had a coup. Keep going further left, Dems, it does your party good. “Pinky”-finger promise.
The stench of liberalism today in this forum is more offensive than usual. I hate the smell of sulfur…
By getalife
September 22, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
Andy,
I am lost for words when an American brags about the loss of a freedom.
Enjoy your victory.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
The problems we face today are all the Democrats fault.
Finally we agree on something mate. The demoncrats trashed the US for 40 years or so with their corrupt vote buying racial pandering rule of congress. In the last decade or two unremitting liberal drivel in the media and bigoted leftist political correctness and more recently the systematic undermining of Bush on EVERYTHING HE DOES is entirely the demoncrats fault!! As was the stacking of SCOTUS with leftist judges until very recently.
By only half
September 22, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this
Yep Van.
60+ Million Dumb as Dirt.
Too dumb to see it. Too dumb to get out of the rain. Too dumb to get out of the road.
Too Dumb to see Iraq is a quagmire that rivals VN.
Too Dumb to see the bill of goods it has been sold.
And I don’t need to be a dictator. I’m already your Daddy.
Dumb as dirt.
By James
September 22, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
Barbara, Hello! No, not at all. That was a posted by me because I found it funny that someone would go through so much trouble. I don’t believe in a devil therefore I cannot subscribe to the lunacy of an “antichrist”.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
(I just come here to learn)
When do you expect to start learning feminazi JK??!!
You deliberately ignore everything you’ve been generously taught by your conservtaive betters!!
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this
getaclue,
Maybe Jim ran a coup on the scribblers blog to get us all over here. Looks like your boy ml is the only one against free speech.
By Markus
September 22, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this
How the jackass radical limpoloon left is destroying America: giving dicktators fuel for thought. Chevez’s favoritee book..
What a damned shame someone didn’t take the pig out with a headshot.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
As you read this blog, you may see the ugly, freedom hating, fascist gop’s position on freedom.
Hopefully , the voters will value their freedom and vote for the Dems.
By Markus
September 22, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this
GITMOLIFE-
Since you asspirates on the left don’t want any accountability for voter identification proof, you can take YOUR “accountability” bullshot and shove it up your old worn out kiester.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this
Jeez, they’ve implemented the delay here too I see.
Jim, Whoever is recommending the delay to stop flareups hasn’t learned a thing about what it really does. Once you can’t have any real time dialog this will turn into a haven for spam and insults. It’s not like we haven’t already seen it happen over at mike’s. I guarantee you the delay will cause more problems than it fixes, so unless the idea is to kill the blog you really ought to have them put it back in real time.
By Liberal
September 22, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this
Markus,
Yes illegals shouldn’t vote and law enforcement should make sure that that doesn’t occur. However, the House committee that investigated the Sanchez case said that while they found evidence of illegal votes, it wasn’t enough to influence the election. This was in 1996 during a Republican controlled Congress, meaning that most of the committe was probably compriesed of Republicans. “B-1 Bob” was never the same…
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this
James, are you a Christian? You really don’t believe in the Devil? I’m not trying to offend. If you don’t want to answer I’ll understand.
By Van
September 22, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this
JK,
I am glad to see some on the left able to stand up and take it like a man(or woman as the case may be). If you are not one of the whiners then you should not feel the barbs.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this
Lets face it folks, people on the right are blaming the Dems because there is no accountability. We all know they control all three branches and blaming the Dems is a cowardly way to not admit their failures.
Since they will not admit the mistakes, there is no reason to correct them.
Maybe we should correct their mistakes by voting them out.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this
See, RW just proved my point.
Thanks RW.
By Jim's a Cherry Picker
September 22, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this
A few quick reminders:
Republicans have been in control of Congress for 12 years and the White House for 6…still no tax reform(so why is Grover at the WH so much?).
Pork barrell spending on special interests has increased exponentially over the last 12 years under Republican supervision.
Another Republican Congressman has pleaded guilty to being corrupt this week.
Tom Delay is still trying to rig votes…but this time they’re for some dancing show. What an idiot!
Iraq is engaged in a civil war that we facilitated.
And how dumb is it for lil Georgie to be on the opposite side of interrogation rules proposal from John McCain? As I recall McCain actually went to war (as opposed to skipping out on national guard duty) and was a real pow (as opposed to just being a daddy’s boy).
In fact, if I’m not mistaken, nobody in his cabinet - the people running this sham of a war - has ever served this country in uniform…
GW said that he’d prosecute whoever leaked in the Plamegate thingy….so when’s Armitage doing his perp walk?
Osama bin Laden is still on the loose.
Have a good weekend.
By Van
September 22, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this
Folks,
We have another “getalife”, but this one is too honest, “only half”, I think refers to his brain.
By Realist
September 22, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
JK, Its odd that you take such offense to Vans post. I cant speak for him, but I didnt take that he was aiming that at you. Though your views are utopic and unrealistic, I havent heard you praise Chavez or say anything terribly vile against our President. There are plenty of others here who that post WAS directed toward who DO seem to hate and demonize America and its government. Why would you feel the need to defend yourself? Or were you merely defending the anti-American crowd here?
I happen to think that you are a good American, though you tend to look at things rather simplistically and with utter naivete. Im also somewhat confused over your recent personal attacks on many posters here. Its seems unlike you and really unflattering and unchristian. Perhaps you need to stop and take inventory before posting and be sure your words are not casting you in a bad light, as Rednecks and others do so frequently. Its been a real shame watching you unravel, so to speak.
Just my humble opinion…
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I have to complement the fact that, unlike most of your left wing buddies, you’re at least asking for a change through the ballot box.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this
Tranny Anny Wooten, you forgot to remind your redneck trash followers of the 100th anniversary of the Atlanta Redneck Riot, when a few thousand of their white trash ancestors took on a few hundred blackfolk - and won!
A great day in southern kkkonservative history! Dig up your daddy’s and your granddaddy’s Klan costumes and head on down to Auburn Avenue and show them some redneck pride! You gals are a little down lately…
By Van
September 22, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
getalife,
OMG, I agree with you, there is no accountability.
What I do not agree with is this control issue you have. Only since 2001 has the republicans been in charge of two branches of Government. In that time, we have too much stuff to undo from the mess left over from when the Democrats ruled the roost. Just as an aside, it was our favorite Jimmy Carter that had the last full Control of Government(for any great period of time) that you sttribute to Bush. In that time we gave away the Panama Canal, that we bought and paid for. This allowed China to aquire control of the ports at both ends of the Canal. During his Presidency, we had the Iranian hostage crises - another legacy of James Earl.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this
RW,
They work for we the people.
It is our time to be their bosses.
I say, they have failed we the people.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this
Jim’s a Cherry Picker,
Republicans have been in control of the House for 12 years, not Congress. The language the President wanted was John McCain’s from last year, so it was McCain against McCain. No wonder he almost ran with Kerry.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this
is this the ugliest hag in America - after the tub of lesbian lard O’Donnell??
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?inarticleid=399151&inpageid=1773
click on the bad hair picture on the right to enlarge it and die laughing!! (note the flattened birkenstocks)
this photo is nearly as revolting
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?inarticleid=406466&inpageid=1773&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this
We have another “getalife”, but this one is too honest, “only half”, I think refers to his brain.
this one was the original stand in for that infamous scene when Hannibal Lecter fried some brains for the movie cameras.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this
Van,
I am glad you agree and hope you will vote for accountability.
Thank you for your support.
By rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda
September 22, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this
Ajc is full of good sheet today - Lynn “Three Commandments” Westmoreland saying he voted for torture.
What trash. The fact that he is running opposed means the whole Congressional district is a trash heap.
Let’s face it - rural Georgians are not really humans.
By The truth
September 22, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this
Here are just a few examples Mr. Liberal…
Tires slashed in Milwaukee … Republicans reportedly plan to file a formal complaint Tuesday about an apparent effort to keep Bush supporters away from Milwaukee-area polls. Wire reports said someone slashed the tires of 30 vans Republicans had rented as part of their get-out-the-vote effort. The vandalism happened outside Republican headquarters in downtown Milwaukee, press reports said.
Florida voters misled re Schwarzkopf endorsement … The Republican National Committee would like American voters to know that retired Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf has not endorsed Sen. John F. Kerry — despite “fraudulent” phone messages from the Democratic National Committee saying just the opposite. RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie issued a statement Monday night, calling the fraudulent phone calls “the last gasps of a desperate Democrat campaign, whose only hope for success is to fool voters by misrepresenting the intentions of Gen. Schwarzkopf.” In the taped message, a man identifying himself as Schwarzkopf says, “In 2000, I voted for George W. Bush, but this year I’m voting for John Kerry.” It’s not true. Schwarzkopf has endorsed President Bush for re-election, calling him “the candidate who has demonstrated the conviction needed to defeat terrorism.”
Vote fraud in Pennsylvania? Philadelphia District Attorney Lynne Abraham is casting doubt on reports that electronic voting machines recorded hundreds, maybe thousands, of votes — before the polls opened in Philadelphia on Tuesday. Abraham was quoted as saying that the machines have two counters, one of which records the number of votes cast during the lifetime of the machine. She said that “lifetime” number apparently confused some poll workers, who erroneously thought it indicated votes cast on Election Day. Philadelphia Mayor John Street said he’s concluded that “it would have been impossible” for anyone to have cast votes before the polls opened. He said reports of the vote fraud were false and malicious and “calculated to create confusion.” Speaking on Fox News, Mayor Street called the incident an attempt to “cast a cloud over this election in preparation for what might be legal action at the end of the day. I believe that this could not have been an honest mistake.”
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this
getalife,
That part I disagree with. The Republicans are trying to make the best of what 40 years of Democrat dominance did to ruin the foundations of freedom this country was founded on. With freedom comes responsibility. You Democrats don’t want the responsibility part, you want a cradle to grave nanny state. You, of all people, should know that being so close to New Orleans.
By Curious Observer
September 22, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this
The Truth According to the NeoCons:
Good American = Supports Everything Bush Does
Traitor = Opposes Anything Bush Does
By CJ
September 22, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this
Regarding Chavez, where was the outrage when the Bush administration condoned a military coup against an elected leader in 2002? Surely people can’t be surprised when that leader calls Bush the devil after Bush supported a coup against him. Bush’s repetitious speech-making about spreading democracy is self-serving puffery, and his support for the failed coup against Chavez is just another scrap in a mountain of evidence to that effect.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this
I’ve just looked at the far left luckovich blog and cannot see ANY reason to pull the plug at lunchtime.
liberals obviously are just moral cowards!!
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
Good American = Supports Everything Bush Does
Traitor = Opposes Anything Bush Does
not quite pinko observer - Bush is entirely wrong and gutless on the border issue and stem cells!! though your definition of a traitor is essentially correct - with a few reservations.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this
If someone is a curious observer you would think that they would ask a question, observe, or both. I suggest “Curious Observer” change it’s name to “Dimwit Bloviator.”
By getalife
September 22, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this
RW,
I do know this. If we spent the money in our country instead of Iraq we would have a rebuilt New Orleans.
11.5 million dollars an hour is spent in Iraq.
By Van
September 22, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this
Luckovich Censors Conservatives,
Darfur is a crime and the people at the UN will not do a thing, why you ask, thanks for asking.
During their first Civil War,a conflict from 1955 to 1972, the Northern section of the Sudan were close to Egypt and considered them selfs more arab than african, and the south was mostly black and christian.
With that setup, no wonder the UN did nothing.
During their second civil war, the northern part of Sudan did not like the autonomy the southern part had, THis was in 1983, again Muslims against christians, the UN did not want any part of that.
From these humble beginnings we have the Darfur Region. The muslims do not want any christians or other non-believers in their country.
Add to this mess, China has been helping Sudan develope its oil industry.
Is it any wonder that the UN and the EU do not want anything to do with Sudan?
By jbmlaw
September 22, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this
Dear Barbara @ 11:52, NPR says:
The Venezuelan oil company Citgo has been providing discount home heating oil to low-income Americans. Citgo hasn’t always been a Venezuelan company, nor has it always been under the control of a populist leader like Hugo Chavez. The company’s roots are American. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5065068 Have a great weekend.
By Realist
September 22, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
Id rather rebuild Iraq once and leave, than rebuild New Orleans over and over and over, while also sending them billions in govt welfare aid, job programs, reading programs, child care programs, transportation programs, how to whipe your own a* programs, etc. At least Iraq only drains us ONCE! The likes of those in NO drain us daily for ETERNITY!!!
By James
September 22, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
Barbara,
No…I am not Christian…organized religion is bad for the human spirit IMO.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
RW,
Getalife doesn’t require much in the way of evidence to “prove” his points, does he? I bet you could tell him that 1+1=3 and he would believe it as long as it was a moonbat who said it.
He is also great a posting unattributed comments. I guess he figures putting quotation marks around another person’s words is good enough.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this
getaclue,
That much gets stolen in New Orleans and you do nothing but whine. It’s been going on since long before Katrina.
jbmlaw,
Are you the guy that live blogged the CyMc “concession speech” with me over at Hot Air?
By Van
September 22, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw,
Seems Citgo was bought out by Occidental Petroleum Corporation, the same one Al Gore has a vested interest in, in the early 80’s and then sold it off, 50-50, to the 7-11 chain and Venezuela in ‘86. Then Petróleos de Venezuela bought the rest of it in the ’90s.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this
RW,
No whining, just the facts. There are billions stolen in Iraq.
One big money grab. Of course you and your buddies will never admit it, so I admit it for you.
Cherry picking propaganda never admits the failures like the failed neocon plan to spread democracy in the middle east.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
He sounds a lot like the squawking parrot today. I hope he wasn’t with MADori while Hugo and Cindykins were in the throes of passion.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this
Is everybody taking off for “Make a Patriot” day?
By Reece
September 22, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this
Hugo Chavez coming to our shores and saying this is about as bad as NotAnAmerican, aka TFTT spouting forth his trash.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
jmblaw,
The funny part about Chavez peddling his cheap oil in Harlem is that unless things have changed since I left New York City in 1994, or if the rules are different above 110th Street, tenants do not pay for their heating costs - it is part of your rent.
Assuming that that is still the case, then Chavez is selling cheap heating oil to the wealthy landlords, not the poor tenants, or to those who are wealthy enough to own a condo.
Maybe he could go to someplace like Miami next time where no one ever needs home heating oil, rich or poor. That’ll get the Democrat voters out in large numbers!
By Realist
September 22, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
Yeah Barbara, didnt you know that? Organized religion is horrible for the human spirit!
Now a good old bong hit or two and bad mouthing everything and everybody in America, that is great for the human spirit!!!
What a bunch of a* clowns. I cant imagine how lonely and sad these freaks must be.
By Reece
September 22, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this
Hugo Chavez coming to our shores and saying this is about as bad as NotAnAmerican, aka TFTT spouting forth his trash.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this
Andy,
Maybe they all went to Tuscany with rushncap. If you have a page saved from yesterday you can still post at ml’s.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
RW,
Getalife does seem to be particulary honery, err, ornery today.
Maybe he is miffed because he they wouldn’t let him participate in the MADori/Hugo/Cindy menage a trois to make it an even foursome.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
Reece … you embittered snivelling wannabe mouthy yankee wanker I AM AN AMERICAN!! My US passport and naturalisation certificate say so!! As do the INS and my local voting registration office!! You cant vote if you”re not a citizen - not unless you’re from the third world at least!! — snigger
With a poxy name like Reece you’re probably some worthless Canadian illegal immigrant who needs to sod off back home!! …huge smirk
By Chazman
September 22, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
Realist, you’re right, Iraq will only drain us once - from now until the end of time. And heavens no, we don’t need jobs programs (that put people in the work force to pay taxes and get off welfare) or transportation programs to help people get to work (see taxes & welfare reference above - we could just say screw’em, if they don’t have a way to work they can sit at home). Yeah, we don’t need to put any money in NO, screw those people. They’re just a bunch of minorities anyway.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this
RYDER CUP FINAL DAY SCORES
EUROPE 5 … USA 3
So its looking good again so far for the Euros!!
Amusing to see Woods choking yet again this afternoon!!
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Maybe he watched that three minute “Head On, apply directly to the forehead” loop you posted the other day. Speaking of which, I think they got the message. Now the commercial starts “Head On, Apply…” and somebody breaks into the picture and says “Head On, I hate your commercials, but I love your product.”
By Political Foreskin
September 22, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this
Is a coup possible in the USA? And just how do you think Bush got 2B prez? General Diebold and his henchman Katherine Harris. Funny how the traitors all wear moustaches. (But I kid the plastic surgery queen of florida, it looks great, Katherine, no really, you’re a babe now.)
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this
Polly prepuce,
Katherine Harris didn’t count a single vote and the reason we have Diebold machines is mainly because of all the screwed up ballots in Florida. Ballots designed and approved by Democrats. Wake up and smell the Vics Vapo-Rub Polly!
By James
September 22, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this
Realist,
Barbara asked a questiona dn I gave an answer and why. Now I guess you lump TFTT in that bunch of a* clowns too.
By JK
September 22, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this
Chazman, you forgot about those horrid little READING programs we don’t need either! I mean reading programs might help ignorant folks to improve their skill set and seek better jobs to feed their kids and…. Hey, wait a minute. Why again do reading programs S-CK Mister Realist? OH YEAH! An informed citizenry might show up to vote!
By jhkjhk
September 22, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this
What ticks me off is “leaders” (guffaw) scheduling these tax elections in a manner to stack the deck in favor of them, and then have the nerve to say (lie) with a straight face that that is not what they were doing. The lack of honesty in government and politics is discouraging.
By James
September 22, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this
Realist,
But I forget..you are “a man of science” and only deal with facts. To the blogger called Man of Science..I hope you know Realist came up with that name first!
By Realist
September 22, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this
And heavens no, we don’t need jobs programs (that put people in the work force to pay taxes and get off welfare) or transportation programs to help people get to work (see taxes & welfare reference above - we could just say screw’em, if they don’t have a way to work they can sit at home).
Are you dense? These programs have gone on now for over 40 years. So why arent they working as accomplishing as you state above? The programs DO exist so why are so many still sitting at home? Why are so many not escaping welfare as you say? Its a failed system and failed philosophy of motivating individuals to better themselves.
Like I said, Id much rather my money go to hard working Iraqi’s trying to make a life for thier children IN THIER OWN COUNTRY than some of the parasites from New Orleans who offer nothing but a jolt to the local crime and birth statistics.
By Luckovich Censors Conservatives
September 22, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this
Hey Wooten!
How come all of the “Luckovich Censors Conservative” posts got censored from your blog?
By Realist
September 22, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this
Why again do reading programs S-CK Mister Realist? OH YEAH! An informed citizenry might show up to vote!
As I said earlier, its obvious the programs my money is paying for arent working. Havent in 40 years, and wont in another 40.
The programs suck if you cant read and understand these words…..
A MAJOR HURRICANE IS THREE DAYS AWAY FROM WIPING US OUT— GET OUT NOW
By JK
September 22, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
Realist is right about New Orleans. I read somewhere how it really was. You see, really, all those hotels had self-cleaning rooms with self-making beds. It’s the voodoo or something. In all those restaurants, the food magically flew from the kitchen to the tables, the drinks mixed themselves in their magic blenders, and the bars were self-wiping. Tens of thousands of conventioneers came through every year and marvelled at how the streets magically sweept themselves overnight. No one worked in the hospitals either! Walk in, get better, walk out! No working folks there! The fish and shrimp jump right in the boats, row themselves to the restaurants, and plop right into the pot with okra that ships itself from the farms too! The bottles of hot sauce roll themselves into town, and those sticky bun thingies….. DARN IT, now I’m hungry.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
Like I said, Id much rather my money go to hard working Iraqi’s trying to make a life for thier children IN THIER OWN COUNTRY than some of the parasites from New Orleans who offer nothing but a jolt to the local crime and birth statistics.
There you have it folks, this is the GOP.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
Luckovich Censors Conservatives,
It looks like the censorship that getaclue is always whining about is an epidemic here on the uber-liberal AJC.
By the way, I think hate crimes laws are a slippery slope and probably would be ruled unconstitutional if they were viewed without the prism of political correctness. Just have tough laws that you actually enforce and be done with it.
By Realist
September 22, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
Only two miles inland there was dry land. No drownings. No one trapped in Attics. So you are telling me the informed citizenry were able to push plasma tv’s in a shopping cart for six blocks, but over a period of three days, they werent able to help their own people make it 2-3 miles inland? Even at a slow pace pushing grandma or grandpa in a grocery cart, or even carrying them on my back, I could have done two miles in less than half a day.
People need to get real and stop blaming Bush and stop blaming the rich. The fact is that the people of NO who were able to get out, did so selfishly and left those unable behind to die, as did the NO government. My grandma or grandpa would have gone out on my back if it had come to that. But in this selfish entitled welfare city, nobody helped anyone but themselves. Even as elderly drowned in thier homes, young black men and women risks thier lives for tv’s, not to save thier neighbors. Point the finger where it belongs Ms. JK!!!!
By getalife
September 22, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this
Yes Realist,
Thanks for pointing out which country the GOP supports.
I will vote Dem for my country.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
Please keep posting Realist.
You are doing a “heckofajob” for the real Democratic Americans.
Thanks again for your support.
By JK
September 22, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this
Point the finger where it belongs Ms. JK!!
No thank you. You have the finger-pointing thing well in hand, Sir. BTW, for anyone who cares about such things, I used to be an adult literacy tutor before I had a family to run my a— of for… (I mean, for whom to run off my a—.) Anyway, there are many reasons people reach adulthood without functional literacy skills, but many are eager to learn, and learn quickly when someone takes a couple hours a week to work with them. Maybe not as rewarding as smacking a golf ball around, but I enjoyed doing something positive for my fellow Americans. {:->
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this
I was half heartedly reading the mindless drivel from JK, but I’ve got to admit that shrimp and okra boiling up got to me. Time for lunch.
By Jim Wooten
September 22, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this
Luckovich Censors Conservatives, language in the 11:57 post offended me.
By Charlie White
September 22, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this
Of course Chambliss cited Jeb Stuart. He really wants the Cracker vote again.
By Liberal
September 22, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
Katrina comes up again. Most of the people left behind were normal, hard-working people who didn’t have to suffer. NO and Lousisiana failed them before the storm. And the federal government failed them after the storm. It shouldn’t have taken FIVE DAYS for help to come. Even Bush himself took the blame for the slow response.
Also, people tried to cross the bridge out of New Orleans, but were held back from Gretna and Jefferson Parish police.
We’re talking about EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT not entitlement programs. The federal response was a failure.
Also, let’s not forget that the majority of Lower Ninth Ward residents were homeowners, not renters.
Instead of people trying to defend a failed system, we should try to fix it.
By Realist
September 22, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
JK, Your literacy skills and volunteer work not withstanding, my post stands uncontested and based on fact and truth.
By James
September 22, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this
JK,
Helping those less fortunate than you? Shame on you..you should have just sat back and talked down about them and how lazy they were.
My wife teaches in Griffin, GA and I can tell you that you are exactly right. The eagerness when time is taken.
By Realist
September 22, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this
Liberal, Are you telling me that in all the days leading up to all the failures, before people were being turned away at the last second, during the time when many were packing cars and trucks and leaving ahead of time, that the black community, which is supposedly so tightnit, did not turn its back on its own people by not trying to help them get out too before conditions got so bad? If you dont admit that you cant possibly be looking at this thing honestly.
The people of the community had the first responsibility to those people. Then the state governemtn, and lastly the federal goverment. Because of the failures by the citizens and then the state, the federal agencies were in a no win situation, period.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this
feminazi JK’s blatant dishonesty about Katrina and NOLA is the usual rib tickling liberal bollux. Funny how the leftists provide so much unwitting and witless merriment on here. The frightening thing is - even with out valid ID’s and a deeply flawed and poorly informed world view they get to vote!! What a shame that their votes (effectively) counts less and less as Bush and the GOP deservedly keep hold of power to save America from their hateful racial pandering and appeasement.
By Bryan
September 22, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
Get a grip. Our government leaders throw out negative comments about World Leaders everyday. If you think that way about someone, do you not think he will have an opinion about you as well. Now, I wouldn’t have used the same words to describe George Bush as Pres.Chavez did, but he is entitled to his opinion. I do think that US Foreign Policy is “devilish” in that it only looks out for American interest without regard for the other peoples of the world. This is no new phenomena but more and more countries are no longer AFRAID to voice their oponion about American imperialism. America should clean up its backyard before we try to clean up someone else’s. We need to realize how our policies are fomenting violence all over the world.
By Greg
September 22, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
Bush is getting a little bit of what he dishes out. He calls Chavez names and then gets all upset when Chavez does the same. Venezuela is no threat. Bush is just upset that Venzuela has lots of oil and doesn’t sell it cheaper to the U.S. Too bad, it is Venezuela’s oil and not ours until they sell it to us. Bush needs to stop threatening other countries and their leaders. It doesn’t work. He has no proof against Venezuela or Iran but keeps opening his big mouth like U.S. citizens listen to his lies anymore. Get over yourself self-important Bush.
By Greg
September 22, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
Bush is getting a little bit of what he dishes out. He calls Chavez names and then gets all upset when Chavez does the same. Venezuela is no threat. Bush is just upset that Venzuela has lots of oil and doesn’t sell it cheaper to the U.S. Too bad, it is Venezuela’s oil and not ours until they sell it to us. Bush needs to stop threatening other countries and their leaders. It doesn’t work. He has no proof against Venezuela or Iran but keeps opening his big mouth like U.S. citizens listen to his lies anymore. Get over yourself self-important Bush.
By Greg
September 22, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this
Bush is getting a little bit of what he dishes out. He calls Chavez names and then gets all upset when Chavez does the same. Venezuela is no threat. Bush is just upset that Venzuela has lots of oil and doesn’t sell it cheaper to the U.S. Too bad, it is Venezuela’s oil and not ours until they sell it to us. Bush needs to stop threatening other countries and their leaders. It doesn’t work. He has no proof against Venezuela or Iran but keeps opening his big mouth like U.S. citizens listen to his lies anymore. Get over yourself self-important Bush.
By Liberal
September 22, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this
Realist, you need to read and hear the stories from the survivors themselves. A lot of them didn’t have anybody to take them from New Orleans. Many older people chose to ride the storm out because they were able to survive Betsy forty years ago. Also, evacuations cost money (hotel, gas, etc). There have been many instances where people evacuated only for the storm to completely miss New Orleans.
The local government failed in not issuing the mandatory evacuation early enough—it should have been issued on Saturday night instead of Sunday.
After the storm, the local infrastructure was wiped out and the state was overwhelmed…this is when the federal government steps in. Only they didn’t. And the images that we all saw on TV were because of the tardiness of the federal response. There is absolutely no excuse for it.
By Redneck Convert
September 22, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this
That person that designed the butterfly ballot in Palm Beach County in ‘04 should get the Medal of Freedom. The idiots that couldn’t solve this Chinese puzzle wound up voting for Patrick Buchanan, instead of Gore, the person they thought they were voting for. This made me laugh.
I later learned that the designer was a very big Republican. She should have a plague of herself put up in the Capitol Rotunda. Her work allowed my man GW Bush to win.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this
JK,
I heard that all those NOLA residents were slaves forced to work for Big Hotel for no money and were members of the Working Poor.
They were waiting for minimum wage hikes to earn a living wage and give them enough dough to get out of town, but those damned Republicans just want to enslave them and reward evil corporations with higher profits so their CEOs can play golf.
Do I have that right?
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this
Helping those less fortunate than you? Shame on you..you should have just sat back and talked down about them and how lazy they were.
Oooops … looks like James needs some of that gushing, self absorbed, look at how great a volunteer I am adult literacy help.
If it were left to me James I would have thoroughly enjoyed talking down to them and and bluntly told them how lazy they were and how addicted to govt programmes and violent crime they were in NOLA, Atlanta, Detroit, D.C., Millwaukee, South Central LA, Oakland, Chicago (southside) and so on.
P.S. you’re right, I’m still not at all religious although I am considering becoming a shiite if this is the kind of money you can make — (just kidding)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/22/wiraq22.xml
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this
Hey James. Thanks for answering. I hope one day your opinion will change. Being a Christian can be fun and rewarding. It feels good to practice the bible teachings (even though we know we are only human and we sin a lot every day, but God forgives…. and loves). I will include you in my prayers.
Easy Realist. You know I love you and I agree with a lot of what you post, but James was simply responding to my question. Please be sweet to him. You know we win folks over with kindness, not criticism.
jbmlaw, thanks for the info on Citgo. Sorry to be a bonehead, but I just don’t keep up with as much news as some of you guys. Just to be clear: so Chevron is not related to Venezula? That is the brand I usually prefer but I wouldn’t buy it if it comes from Venezula or Chavez profits from it. I already boycott Exxon.
By ChrisD
September 22, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this
Here’s news for the idiotic left. Being a US citizen IS a prerequisite to voting. Having ID is a reasonable requirement for a US citizen. It is not an undue hardship if the gov’t is providing the ID for free, and will even bring it to you. Even if you have to pay for it, I’m sure you can handle it. I’ll bet you have a color TV and cable, right?
By ChrisD
September 22, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this
Here’s news for the idiotic left. Being a US citizen IS a prerequisite to voting. Having ID is a reasonable requirement for a US citizen. It is not an undue hardship if the gov’t is providing the ID for free, and will even bring it to you. Even if you have to pay for it, I’m sure you can handle it. I’ll bet you have a color TV and cable, right?
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this
part of the cause of the NOLA images were because the bigot chocolate city Nagin was cowering on the 15th floor of some luxury hotel downtown - they couldn’t even find him when Bush arrived. The cops - many of them black - either ran away or were out stealing cars and looting and NOT looking out for the vulnerable people and stopping the organised armed black gangs that actually drove down from all over to loot the dry areas at night!! All this after the state democrats had refused a lot of fed aid BEFORE THE STORM HIT and also afterwards!!
I dont blame Bush much at all for what happened.
By Political Foreskin
September 22, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this
I believe Both George Bush’s today. He said that he believes Pakistan’s Mubarek will find Osama and bring him to justice…. BUT: Then Bush said that he doesn’t believe Mubarek’s claim that Pakistan was threatened with an attack from the US if they didn’t cooperate after 911. (flip flop)
I believe both George Bush’s last week. He claimed that Colin Powell was disloyal with his recalcitrance in enforcing foreign policy and his silence about the Plame leak. (the right demonized poor Powell last week)
Yet George Bush hides behind Colin Powell today, and says he believes Colin Powell’s assertion (right after 911) that Pakistan was ready willing and able to help fight the terrorists.(Flip flop)
How many W’s are in the word “waffler” anyway? I dont know.
Gas prices crashing!!!!! What’s happening? The oil producers of the world get too sassy when the price gets too high. Expect $1.50/gallon gas soon as the powers that be let the Chavez’s of the world cool off.
It’s all connected, and that’s why I say, “What this country needs is either a good 5 cent cigar or a good 5 cent marital aid, but then I repeat myself.”
Cause I’m liberal and I like Clinton.
Well it’s Miller Time, and the bar’s got babes, and I’m pullin’ off the tops of tall ones. (and then I’m gonna drink a beer too)
Officially declared: It’s Miller Time at 3:03 pm Friday afternoon, Sept. 22, 2006.
Oh, the colors.
By Realist
September 22, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this
Tftt, So true. But in honesty, I dont think many of the poorest get out and vote at all. When I was in college, I took classes and became an EMT-II and a firefighter. I worked part time while going through school four about five years. Mostly on weekends and nights. What I saw in the projects and housing developments in the poorest sections of Birmingham and Tuscaloosa was a life that hardly qualified as human. I seriously doubt these poeple actually vote. They seemed to exist moment to moment, almost as if in a prison. Thier world was a three or four block area. No cars. No life. No hope. I saw people stabbed and shot in apartments and homes where children continued to play completely unphased only feet away from the body. I saw brothers stab each other to death over a cigarrette. I saw 13 year olds shooting each other every weekend. I saw a wife and child burned by a crack addicted father when he through a drain cleaner on both of them. I saw the horror that goes with that life.
These are the people who drowned in New Orleans. The very bottom. The poorest and least functional of them all. And its these people who are being done a disservice by our federal government by keeping them dependent on a system that enslaves them and confines them to thier current miserable existence. Its pathetic. It doesnt work. And it should be changed.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this
Realracist,
Here are the stats on Katrina
By James
September 22, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this
Barbara,
I never turn my back to a good prayer…thanks.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
Barbara we wiil NEVER “win” over the lefty liberals so why even bother.
I always research every few months which “big oil” oil company has proudly done the most recent pollution and environmental damage before I buy my petrol!! Exxon sure is good at that - so I like Exxon a lot!!
By Realist
September 22, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this
The local government failed in not issuing the mandatory evacuation early enough—it should have been issued on Saturday night instead of Sunday.
I sat in my living room on FRIDAY night and heard every tv station and radio station talking of a catastrophe in the works for New Orleans.
A lot of them didn’t have anybody to take them from New Orleans.
They had members of thier churches, community, etc, and those people who were able to get out, turned thier back on those who couldnt. Why wont you admit this?
By the way, the images I saw on tv were of people from communities all over the country trying to help the people of New Orleans. And what were the residents of New Orleans doing? They had either high tailed it long ago, or they were robbing and looting. Why wont you put some of the blame on the community Liberal? Are you that blind or just that dishonest?
By getalife
September 22, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this
Hey, I can get my drugs for $4 dollars a month in Florida at Wal-Mart.
What a deal, why in the world was this not happening right before the elections.
Gas prices dropping too.
Wow, we should have elections everyday.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this
Unfortunately Realist only the likes of Bill Cosby have any kind of hopeful message for poorer blacks today - and he is sneered at by those who need to keep them poor and voting the (McKinney/Waters/Conyers etc) “right way” so they can get their racial spoils share etc instead of actually helping poorer black folks to move on up as Curtis Mayfield used to put it!!. Sadly ignorant people - of all races - are invariably limited by their (geographical) horizons, their limited education and their cultural practice. Hippity Hop is as vile, as sexist and as thuggish and moronic as it gets in popular culture. Its a self serving vicuous cycle/culture which evidently you have seen even more of than I have.
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this
TFTT, how do you research that? Is there a specific website? I hope you’re just kidding about liking Exxon if they are big poluters. Oops! I’ve revealed my liberal leaning - I do not like intentional environmental poluting to an extreme. Don’t let that fool you libs; I’m not a full-blown tree hugger. Maybe just a tree high-fiver :-)
By Fall Line
September 22, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this
Why the hubbub over Chavez? He’s just a joke. I wish that I could have been surprised by Danny Glover, but his warm embrace of Chavez was exactly what I expected. Al sharpton really surprised me though. Good on him. It seems that Glover’s only lethal weapon is his idiocy.
By Realist
September 22, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this
For once I finally agree with foreskin. When I start typing “threw” as “through”, it is most certainly MILLER TIME!!!
Yall have a good weekend!
By Bryan
September 22, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this
Get a grip. Our government leaders throw out negative comments about World Leaders everyday. If you think that way about someone, do you not think he will have an opinion about you as well. Now, I wouldn’t have used the same words to describe George Bush as Pres.Chavez did, but he is entitled to his opinion. I do think that US Foreign Policy is “devilish” in that it only looks out for American interest without regard for the other peoples of the world. This is no new phenomena but more and more countries are no longer AFRAID to voice their oponion about American imperialism. America should clean up its backyard before we try to clean up someone else’s. We need to realize how our policies are fomenting violence all over the world.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this
Redneck Convert,
The Butterfly Ballot in Palm Beach County was designed by a DEMOCRAT election official named Theresa LaPore.
Try your revisionist myths on the Useful Idiots at DU where gullible dupes win virtual elections 24/7.
Barbara,
It is CITGO that is owned by Venezuela/Chavez Chevron. The rub is that the people who own CITGO gas stations are just ordinary Americans who have nothing to do with Chavez, so boycotting CITGO really accomplishes nothing.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this
Barbara,
Oops, that should have read …NOT Chevron.
Go to www.google.com. Type in “CITGO+Chavez” in the search. Enjoy!
By Andie, You're a Fine Girl
September 22, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this
My post got pulled too, Luckovich Censors. Me, just a poor sailor just wanting to send a shout out to my gal pal Andie… censored by the thought(less) police of Mr. Wooten’s blog.
What would Ken/dra Mehlman think?
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this
Barbara … I was just joking - I dont actually do that - but it makes a funny post.
By Liberal
September 22, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
Realist,
Like I said, listen and read the stories of the survivors. Some people did not have the means to leave and others who were offered to leave did not want to. It is not an easy decision to leave your home. It may be if you have credit cards and folks elsewhere that you can reach easily, but not for everyone. It’s just a fact of life.
I don’t understand why people insist on defending the federal response or any response for that matter. It was horrid and there was no excuse for it. Do I blame Bush…yes. Do I blame Nagin…yes. Do I blame Blanco…yes. Do I blame Chertoff…yes.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
I hate to break it to you but you have to be an EMPLOYEE of Wal-Mart to get those $4.00 a month generic drugs.
By The Terminator
September 22, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
Sorry Barbara…Thanks jbmlaw. I’d just returned from my daily spin in the “drying cycle” and didn’t notice I had inadvertently typed Chevron instead of the intended CITGO. Thank you for correcting my error.
BOYCOTT CITGO—BOYCOTT CITGO—BOYCOTT CITGO
By The Terminator
September 22, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this
Sorry Barbara…Thanks jbmlaw. I’d just returned from my daily spin in the “drying cycle” and didn’t notice I had inadvertently typed Chevron instead of the intended CITGO. Thank you for correcting my error.
BOYCOTT CITGO—BOYCOTT CITGO—BOYCOTT CITGO
By Ken/dra Mehlman
September 22, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
Let me just say, I love Andie. And Bi Danish, too.
Just depends on my mood who more.
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
Dang TFTT. I thought you were onto something. I would really like to know more about the gas companies, but I don’t enjoy a lot of research. I thought perhaps you had a secret website that made it easy for me :-(
By getalife
September 22, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
You have a weird sense of humor “lies”.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
September 22, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this
“A Norcross man has six wives”. My God, if there was ever a case for pleading INSANITY!!!
By TommyC
September 22, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this
Whether or not the U S could experience a coup depends on your definition. Since the Commander in Chief of the military is the President, would a take-over led by a President be considered a coup?
A president with the blind support of a significant portion of the Army or Marines could refuse to vacate the office and suspend or not recognize the election process that would replace him after his final term. Then he could take control of Washington, D.C., disband Congress and take over the Supreme Court.
Of course, this would only happen in the event we had a president who 1) felt he was chosen by God to lead the country through a time of crisis, 2) ignored the Constitution and inflated the powers granted to the Executive Branch by said document, 3) explicitly ignored the letter and intent of the laws presented to him by Congress and stated so in signing statements when affixing his signature to said laws, 4) disregarded the Constitution’s protection of citizens’ rights with regard to unreasonable search and seizure (4th amendment), waiver of habeus corpus and due process (5th amendment), the right to a speedy and public trial (6th amendment), and cruel and unusual punishment (8th amendment).
Fortunately for us all, we’ll never have such a president in office…will we?
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this
The Terminator,
Re boycotting Citgo, the gas stations are not owned by Socialist tools of Chavez - they are owned by Americans.
Boycotting Citgo will hurt them way before it hurts Chavez - if ever. It would be akin to boycotting your local grocery store because they sold French wine.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this
Terminator, you “inadvertently typed Chevron”?
You silly moron. More proof that Georgia GOPers are mostly retards.
BOYCOTT REDNECK MORONS - BOYCOTT REDNECK MORONS
By getalife
September 22, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this
Why would Jim delete a conservative comment?
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this
Hey Terminator. I actually didn’t see your post. Believe it or not Sean Hannity on Fox News actually said it was Chevron! But the tag line at the bottom of the screen said CITGO so I was confused. I know those guys sometimes are just reading from papers put together for them, so I don’t fault anyone. But I wasn’t sure which company was related.
Buy Danish, thanks for your comments too. I understand Americans own the CITGO gas stations, but they do decide where to buy their gas and what brand to franchise under, so if they make the decision to associate with a station that has a bad reputation I will not shop there. I don’t shop at Exxon because of the Valdez thing and that happened a long time ago. And some of my more liberal, environmental friends tell me that Shell has the highest “foreign oil” amount, so I don’t shop there either. There are enough choices that I don’t have to shop at certain stores. (Before anyone slams me for going with what others tell me, I’ve already admitted I don’t enjoy extensive researching on everything…….)
By harold
September 22, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this
harold hopes the price of thai food does not skyrocket
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Are you sure about the Wal Mart thing. I thought they were testing it in to customers in the Tampa area and then expanding. I also heard that it was as low as $4.00, so getalife’s drugs are probably much higher.
By Liberal
September 22, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this
Ugotta,
Long time no see! The guy with six wives has to be a sado-massachist (spelling?). He must want to kill himself slowly. When does life get that bad?
I’m gone. Beer comes before blogging.
PS
Barbara,
Your 3:33 post gave you away. Welcome to the dark side! There’s a Volkswagen with a “Give Peace a Chance” bumper sticker waiting just for you…Sierra Club membership included! LOL.
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this
You have a weird sense of humor “lies”.
there’s nothing “weird” at all about laughing at and sneering at lefties maggot brain!!
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this
RW,
I’ll double check, but I heard it was a benefit for their employees.
I don’t know how they could sell most drugs, generic or otherwise for $4.00 to consumers, unless we’re talking generic Advil.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this
So Bi Danish advocates continuing to trade with her avowed enemies, because a few gas station owners might have to buy their gas somewhere else.
Awwwww. Typical level of conviction of a kkkonservative blowhard.
By Harold
September 22, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this
Harolds say that in the last ten years automobiles have killed more Americans than were killed by World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War parts I and II plus Al Qaeda.
By The Terminator
September 22, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish, Are you kidding me? How many gas stations are still owned by AMERICANS? And I agree with Barbara, it’s time to drop CITGO and franchise with another company. I don’t really care who owns these stations. If they’re REAL AMERICANS and REAL SMART they’ll tell CITGO to take a hike and contract with another company.
And finally to Rednecks, You’re still an idiot, maybe an educated idiot, but still an idiot.
By JK
September 22, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
TommyC, no cough cough we’ll never have one of THOSE as President! In any case, they won’t need to do that, as the machines are totally hackable. I mean, not than any American WOULD jack with the software of our sacred voting machines cough cough, as that would undermine the democratic process, and NO ONE would undermine the democratic process just to have their people in power! They’d rather live under a hundred Jimmy Carters than undermine the democratic process with a few well-placed, easily-hackable voting machines! Right? Just ask ‘em. They’ll tell you!
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this
Barbara,
Before I go research this WalMart generic drug thing, when you say you won’t buy Shell oil because it has a “highest foreign oil amount” what are you talking about? Where it drills for oil or its ownership??
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this
Liberal, you have me LMFAO!
gotnolife, what’s wrong with a weird sense of humor? That’t the best kind. Keep after ‘em TFTT.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
September 22, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this
Ladies, you KNOW that I love you, right? BUT married to 6 women at once??? Being married to one woman makes me want to drink sometimes. God I’d be slap-happy crazy!!! Duh-huh!!!
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this
RW,
You’re right - it’s for customers and consumers. This is going to put CareMark - the mail order drug company many employers rely on - out of business
And to think that Democrat Joe Biden’s big campaign is to demonize Wal-Mart - the country’s largest employer and future free-market drug store of choice.
By Jesus Camper
September 22, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this
Join God’s Army. Join the Krusade. Click on this, and turn up the volume
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
RW,
Oops. I meant to say it’s for customers and EMPLOYEES.
By slap happy
September 22, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this
Well thank the lord for Wal-Mart’s cheap Rx drugs. Now there will be no reason for JK to ever miss doses of her SSRI’s!
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
Hey Jim. I only posted once, but my post showed up twice! Do something about this damned delayed posting thing. Come on. We’ll behave…….
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this
Hey Buy Danish. I’m ashamed to say I don’t really know what they meant. These are folks that used to go to my church. They’re big-time recyclers (her email is actually recyclebabe@(I can’t remember where). Anyway, I said to them one time “hey that Shell near y’all’s house has the cheapest gas around” and they said “We avoid Shell because (can’t remember their exact words).” Anyway, I have always preferred Chevron anyway, so I just don’t go to Shell. Like I said, there are a lot of other choices too. There’s a Marathon gas station very near my house that is always competitive, and back on that “gas crisis” day when everyone was jacking up the prices of gas, that Marathon station didn’t do it. They sold out fast, but they didn’t gouge people, so if I don’t go to Chevron I go to that station. It’s convenient (right near my house) and is locally owned.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this
Maybe that Jabba the Hutt fatslob POS Lee Hamilton that runs Exxon should look into this…
Venezuela’s Oil Giveaway Hugo Chavez is helping the U.S. poor with discounted heating oil—while irritating his foes in Washington By TIM PADGETT/MIAMI SUBSCRIBE TO TIMEPRINTE-MAILMORE BY AUTHOR
Posted Tuesday, Feb. 07, 2006 When you’re a U.S. Congressman and 25,000 constituent families can’t find affordable heating oil this winter, you tend not to care where help comes from. That’s at least how U.S. Representative Chaka Fattah of Philadelphia felt last week when Citgo — the U.S.-based company owned by the government of Venezuela’s left-wing President Hugo Chavez — delivered 5 million gallons of heating oil at a 40% discount to low-income Philadelphia residents. Fattah says he doesn’t understand the objections of many congressional conservatives who feel U.S. cities should not be helping improve the image of Chavez, one of President Bush’s most strident critics. “The U.S. buys 1.5 million barrels of oil from Venezuela each day at full price,” says Fattah, “so why would anyone complain about getting some at almost half price?”
That’s a question the Bush Administration — whose feelings for Chavez are certainly mutual — has struggled to answer ever since Venezuela initiated the Citgo program last November. While the heating oil gesture has certainly allowed Chavez to tweak Bush’s nose, it is also being recognized inside and outside of Washington as a public relations coup for Chavez’s Bolivarian Revolution (named for South America’s 19th-century independence hero, Simon Bolivar).
As a result, it’s growing well beyond its original scope: Philadelphia, Boston, the Bronx and cities in Maine, Vermont and Rhode Island have received a total of 45 million gallons of the subsidized Citgo fuel, and other cities are slated for another 5 million soon. That’s a small percentage of the heating oil Venezuela exports to the U.S. each year, but Citgo says it has set aside about 10% of its refined petroleum products for the program. Says Larry Birns, director of the Council on Hemispheric Affairs in Washington, D.C., “Unfortunately for the Bush Administration, Chavez is proving to be a more inventive thinker in terms of hemispheric politics.”
It’s also good business thinking, says Venezuela’s Ambassador to the U.S., Bernardo Alvarez, one of the program’s architects. When 13 U.S. Senators sent a letter to major U.S. oil companies last fall seeking heating fuel aid for lower-income residents in northern states, Citgo — a subsidiary of the state-owned Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA) — was the only one to step forward. “The U.S. is our biggest [oil export] customer,” says Alvarez. “PDVSA is simply responding to that client the way any company should.”
Critics suggest Chavez’s oil diplomacy is simply a ploy to take consumers’ minds off of record high oil prices, which are partly a result of his efforts to rebuild the power of OPEC, of which Venezuela is a founding member. Alvarez insists crude prices in the 1990s were “unfairly low” for producers like Venezuela — but says the Citgo program does give Chavez a chance to showcase “one of our revolution’s most important principles: the redistribution of oil revenues, especially for the poor.” He adds it also reflects “the kind of cooperation mechanism we’re using with our neighbor countries in Latin America.” Many of them — especially Cuba, whose communist leader Fidel Castro is one of Chavez’s closest allies — get cheaper access to Venezuelan crude as part of Chavez’s campaign to forge greater Latin American integration and less economic reliance on the U.S. Last Friday, in a move that further irritated the U.S., Chavez was awarded the United Nations’ Jose Marti prize for promoting Latin American unity.
But the heating oil project’s biggest diplomatic coup, Alvarez concedes, may be the good will it generates among Americans at a time of deteriorating U.S.-Venezuela relations — strained ever since the Bush Administration was widely accused of backing a failed 2002 coup against Chavez (a charge it denies). Chavez, who has been democratically elected twice and is almost certain to win reelection this year, is convinced the U.S. is out to assassinate him or invade Venezuela for its oil; the White House, concerned about a growing wave of leftist victories in Latin American presidential elections, insists Chavez is a would-be dictator sowing instability in the region. Last week, as U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld even likened Chavez’s rise to Hitler’s in the 1930s, Venezuela accused a U.S. naval attaché of spying and expelled him from the country; a few days later the U.S. expelled Alvarez’s chief of staff.
Amidst those tensions, says Alvarez, the Citgo program is proof that Chavez’s revolution is still fond of Americans, if not their government. (Citgo, Chavez aides point out, is also a NASCAR sponsor.) “We’ll continue to support a people whose government is hostile to us,” says Alvarez. “We have nothing against this country.” Venezuelans and Americans might feel that way, but for the moment it seems that no amount of heating oil, no matter how deeply discounted, could thaw the enmity between their two governments.
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this
Hey Ugotta. Here’s one for you……….
Do you know why men die before women?
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this
Hey Ugotta. You’re funny. Here’s one for you………..
Do you know why men in relationships die before the women??????
By Jim Wooten
September 22, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this
Agreed, Barbara, the delay is annoying. The shame is that it’s prompted by so few posters. I don’t get the game or the thrill of sneaking a few words onto a blog that you wouldn’t use in public. It ain’t that hard to do so it’s no particular feat.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this
Barbara,
If you care to know the scoop on Gas Stations and all about the companies that own or service them go to this link.
If you scroll down to the bottom you will find links for every darn one of them - including ones I bet you never heard of.
Wiki is not 100% reliable, but it is a good place to start sometimes.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
Babs,
I consider Colbert and Stewert as funny.
“lies” is just a sad, mad, so called English illegal immigrant.
Fake Americans are not funny.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
September 22, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this
Barbara: Yeah, because WE WANT TO!!!
By Van
September 22, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this
TommyC,
A coup in the US would be near impossible. With separation of powers, it would take the Congress and the President working together, a near impossibility.
That is the reason why the President is the C.I.C., but the Congress controls the money for the Pentegon.
Getting Congress to agree to anything is tough enough.
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this
Ugotta, I guess that one’s been around, huh? I always liked it though. We know you guys just can’t stay away from us though, so we’ve got the upper hand. You just keep comin’ back for the good stuff……..
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this
If anyone is just interested in some basics on CITGO, go here
It’s a lot more complicated than some of you would like to make it. I doubt that those 4,000 employees in Houston are Chavez’ personal cronies. And neither are the franchise owners - of which there are now 14% fewer because Chavez severed the relationship.
Redneck at 4:40,
Why don’t you learn to make links instead of spamming entire articles like a damned fool?
By JK
September 22, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
We have separation of powers again? HOT DOG! When did THAT happen? I thought we had to wait ‘till January!
By Ugotta B. Kidding
September 22, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this
Barbara, I might start drinking tonight(and I don’t even drink). I’m in the doghouse. IMAGINE THAT!!! Sometimes, like most men, I don’t know when to keep my mouth shut. (I know you can’t believe that) Last night was one of those times. I’ll not go into details but let’s just say that my brain was a little slow in catching up with what my mouth said… It was definitely an OH S* moment!!! LOL
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
Thanks Buy Danish. That was interesting. (But when I clicked on the Marathon link, it took me to the definition of the race instead of the gas station!) I guess you’re right; not 100% reliable, but still a good source.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
Well gosh Jim, I really hate the word “ain’t”!
Isn’t it better to just let stuff post at a normal speed and then go back and delete “offensive comments” if it is REALLY necessary?
By Ugotta B. Kidding
September 22, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this
OH YEAH BARBARA…That’s another reason I stay slap-happy crazy!!! In public most people just think I’m playing pattycakes. LOL
Hey have a good weekend. I’m off to do some “kissing up”!
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this
Yeah, Ugotta, I know what you mean. My husband does that all the time.
I don’t know if you remember the old “Lockhorns” cartoon in the AJC years ago? My all time favorite was when Mr. Lockhorn was sitting in his lounge chair watching TV, Mrs. Lockhorn standing behind him, hands akimbo, steam coming out of her ears……… He looks up and says “What? DId I miss a ‘Yes dear!’ ” I do love the good jokes on the battle of the sexes!
Have a great weekend.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
Jim,
Have they ever considered that if they just had registration they wouldn’t have to constantly implement all these changes that only serve to ruin your blog and frustrate your readers?
By Political Foreskin
September 22, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this
More Schtick from Hugo: “…no, it’s true, people! In high school, Bush was voted most likely to possess a prebubescent teenage girl…..I’m serious! Did you see what the special is at the UN cafeteria for lunch today? PEA SOUP! somebody stop me!
By accidental tourist
September 22, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this
Wow, we are really dipping deep into the well of conservative intellectualism today.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this
I usually do, Bi. I just want to give you rednecks a little remedial reading exercise for the weekend. Some of you may actually be able to finish the post by Monday.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
I find it very hard to believe that’s the reason for the delay. I think somebody is blowing smoke up Jim’s trouser leg.
By Jim Wooten
September 22, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
RW, my impression is that most folks don’t want registration, based on feedback from a conversation of 2-3 weeks ago.
By Markus
September 22, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this
Any JACKASS like Rednex Liberal anti-American Al Qaida who cuts-n-pastes a post instead of giving a link only is wasting space on the blog. Posts like that need to be deleted. It’s a waste of space, not to mention a waste of time having to scan past coming from the horseass limpwristed left.
By bon scott
September 22, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this
getalife, thanks for the Andy link. He’s really a piece of work. He’s actually proud of shutting down a blog because it shut up the people who didn’t agree with him.
His enablers there and here are almost as evil. How they can continue to support him escapes me. Especially since this support turns their “free speech no censorship” position into so much garbage.
In other news, don’t boycott Citgo. You’ll only hurt Americans. Ignore Chavez. He’s the 2006 version of Khrushchev at the UN in 1960. Recognize Bush for what he is— an idiot fighting an unnecessary war while real terrorists plot. Where’s Osama?
And vote Democratic on Nov. 7.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this
Jim,
2-3 weeks ago the blog was posting in real time too.
By Van
September 22, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this
JK,
We never lost it, it has always been there. Some on the left refuse to admit it though.
Aan the ones squeeking the loudest are the ones that are not looking.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this
Alas, accidental, conservative intellectualism is about as deep as the southern gene pool/mud puddle.
The Pope has spoken, and retires for the day.
God bless you all. You need it.
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
No, accidental tourist, we’re just dumbing down so you’ll understand it. Geez! We can’t even have a little Friday afternoon fun without someone criticizing even that!
By Ugotta B. Kidding
September 22, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this
Aw shucks accidental tourist! I reckun we jes ain’t as intellajunt as u brillyunt liberuls. Shore wish we culd win sum elekshuns! Dang!
By Markus
September 22, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this
AAAAAAAA!!! I’m blind! Most liberal women are less than attractive by nature (Helen Thomas is the poster woman for proving that), but this is hideous beyond hideous. It should be illegal to be this deformed in body and seen in public, let alone in mind and heard on a personal internet blog.
halloweencameearlyshowbiz/showbiznews.html?inarticleid=406466&inpageid=1773&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5”>halloween came early
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
RW,
As I recall when I posted early this morning there was a delay, and that was before the offending posts posted, so you’re probably right blowing smoke.
And what’s the explanation for ending up in white space after hitting the post button?
By Ugotta B. Kidding
September 22, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
Shucks, I mint to say that we jes no how to win elekshuns. Whats yore excuse?
By Markus
September 22, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
Where are the apologies from the jackass left and liberal media to Rove on Plamegate? There’s accountability for you from the pink panty left. Jackassed hypocrites.
By Ken/dra Mehlman
September 22, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
Markus, do you find me attractive?
Of course you do.
By Read It Quick Before It Gets Censored
September 22, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
By Jim Wooten September 22, 2006 04:55 PM Agreed, Barbara, the delay is annoying. The shame is that it’s prompted by so few posters. I don’t get the game or the thrill of sneaking a few words onto a blog that you wouldn’t use in public.
What a load of garbage.
I get ten posts deleted for one that had an off color remark in it, not a swear word to be found anywhere, while a pointless post about me performing a sex act on a man remained untouched.
This blog is programmed to make Conservatives look silly. All day long we hear all kinds of filthy rot spewed like vomit from Al Qaeda KKK, totally pointless anti American drivel, Wooten sits there like he’s neutered, never challenging that rubbish, waiting for the first person who does so he can censor them right out of here.
What’s the matter Jim, democrat underground getting upset with y’all?
Aren’t they paying the bills anymore?
Ten posts because one has an off color remark in it, nothing worse than anything you can find printed in the AJC every day.
The AJC is an organ for MoveOn and Wooten is just another grinder.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this
bon scott,
It would seem Andy has been deleted here too:
By Jim Wooten September 22, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this Luckovich Censors Conservatives, language in the 11:57 post offended me.
By Markus
September 22, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this
Halloween link, again…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?inarticleid=406466&inpageid=1773&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
That’s the same thing that started happening at ml’s when they put in the delay. It would go back and forth between taking you to white space or going back to the post. Funny that they say they don’t do registration because most people don’t want it. I bet most people don’t exactly like what it’s doing right now, but that won’t mean a thing.
We’ve already seen this path taken. Now they have people spamming articles, pretty soon they will limit the character count. Then the non-stop bolding will happen and they’ll take that away, along with italics. The frustration of not being able to use those to indicate quotes will start the slow motion flame wars.
Sadly with registration they wouldn’t have to do any of that and they would have the added advantage of having a forum where people would behave themselves and they could keep it open for the left coasters.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this
Speak of the devil. ^^^^^
By Markus
September 22, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this
Kendra-
If you are a liberal, no, I don’t find you attractive… from the inside out.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this
Redneck moron,
Many of us are not from the South. I moved here in 2000 and grew up on the Upper East Side of Manhattan in the Blue State of New York, raised as a Democrat.
Bon Scott,
What a ridiculous horses’ as-s you are. Andy was making the point that liberals shut down their own blog while trying to shut up conservatives.
As to Chavez, there are other ways to deal with him, and it would help if Danny Glover and Cindy Sheehan and the rest of the Moveon.org crowd didn’t cheer him on.
It is interesting to see that you are saying that you are against him so you Dems can be fake patriots, but still love those magnificent Sandinista.
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish, RW and Read it Quick, the delayed posting has been going on for several days now. It started after someone posted many disgusting sexual references which were extremely crude. They were actually directed at me. And Jim, I’d rather put up with all those posts again before I’d choose this crappy delayed posting. Please…please…please…please! From the most recent object of the nasty posts even…. please take this damn delay off. PLEASE!
By Ugotta B. Kidding
September 22, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
Hey Barbara, one more thing…I’m gonna be rich! You just gave me an idea. I’m gonna invent a delay system for men. We talk, it’s delayed until our brains agree with what we said, or zap…we stop it from being said. Oh damn, I just remembered there might still be a problem with the “brain filter”. Got to work on that over the weekend. I’ll get back to you on that. Have a good weekend all…
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this
Read It Quick Before It Gets Censored,
Your posts only got deleted because you dared to besmirch the name of the cartoonist they all worship here, it couldn’t possibly have been that tiniest of off color commentary. If that was the case half this blog would disappear every hour.
By Read It Quick Before It Gets Censored
September 22, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this
Docs Mum on Masturbation Therapy for Prostate Cancer-AtlantaJournalConstitution Friday July 18th.
They included Dr. Ira Sharlip, a San Francisco urologist and sexual medicine expert, who urges caution on interpreting the Australian research. But he calls the possible connection between self-gratification and better health potential “dynamite.”
Dynamite!
By Markus
September 22, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
‘Sammata Getmolife-
Your hero Rednex posts the most vitriolic snot on this blog from ANYONE, and you wet your stained pink panties when Conservatives say something that offends YOU that’s the truth.
Your boy speaks for the left, and we know it too. But don’t worry, you people will be MUCH more p!ssed off come November. Better save that energy, because the silent majority is going to smack you limpwrists back into the corner again.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
You don’t really expect finchie err… bonnie to understand that do you? I don’t know how he goes through life with the extreme hatred he carries around with him. What a complete waste of life he is.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
This blog is programmed to make Conservatives look silly.
It is not the blog Andy. You do a great job of this all by yourself.
Have another drink.
No worries Jim. He is just drunk again.
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
Jim Wooten,
I agree with Barbara and she’s a Lib!
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 22, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this
The blog has turned into one whiny conservative hissyfit after another this afternoon. Read It Quick Before It Gets Censored, I’ve read the blog all day and I don’t remember anyone accusing you of having sex with anyone. You really are a silly paranoid loser, aren’t you, you pantie-wetting crybaby?
You and Markanus ought to get a room and console each other. Or something.
By Barbara
September 22, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
I love it Ugotta! What a great invention. My husband needs one of those!
By Buy Danish
September 22, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this
Jim Wooten,
RW has a great point about keeping it open for the Left Coasters too.
By getalife
September 22, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this
Ug,
Repeat after me.
“Yes dear”.
That is all you need to say, you whooped puppy.
Happiness is hearing these words, “I want a divorce”.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this
Barbara,
I know I’m kind of on a soap box and talking into the abyss that is the AJC here, but registration would mean you could post right away and those crude posts would be extremely rare.
They could set up a dual blog, one with registration and one without and see for themselves.
By Jim Wooten
September 22, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this
Barbara, I’ll work on getting the delay lifted in the new week. And RW, I have no need to protect or defend the cartoonist. The postings that are sometimes commonplace there drive serious commentary out the door. My aim here really is to have substantive discussions and I hate having to play speech police just to screen out a few high-schoolish postings, but that is sometimes the case.
By Luckovich Censors Conservatives
September 22, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this
By getalife September 22, 2006 05:57 PM This blog is programmed to make Conservatives look silly. It is not the blog Andy. You do a great job of this all by yourself.
Hey, where’d Luckovich’s blog go, getalife?
Did it get to be too silly over there, is that why they shut it down?
Or did MoveOn tell them to shut it down?
My “Mission Was Accomplished!!”
By Luckovich Censors Conservatives
September 22, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this
By Al Qaeda’s Concubine September 22, 2006 06:00 PM The blog has turned into one whiny conservative hissyfit after another this afternoon. Read It Quick Before It Gets Censored, I’ve read the blog all day and I don’t remember anyone accusing you of having sex with anyone.
I don’t know, maybe you’re too stupid to find something so simple?:
By Andie, You’re a Fine Girl September 22, 2006 03:39 PM My post got pulled too, Luckovich Censors. Me, just a poor sailor just wanting to send a shout out to my gal pal Andie… censored by the thought(less) police of Mr. Wooten’s blog.
And it’s still there^^, all the mindless left wing pervert filth stays, the Conservatives score major points on a rank amateur pinko like you, that comment has got to go.
Enjoy your new found ally in the war on America, Wooten will watch your back.
You just keep on firing away at Bush and Christianity, knowing full well that you won’t get your head cut off because the rednecks in America will protect you from Islamic fascism, the same fascism that you cut and run from.
You just keep badmouthing America, from the safety of America, loser.
By RW-(the original)
September 22, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this
Jim,
I like your writing and politically we probably agree on most things, but if you are trying to have a substantive discussion you aren’t doing a very good job of it. I can see a lot more posts that are getting in the way than the ones you deleted, yet those remain. Have a great weekend!
By Read It Quick Before The Censor Gets It
September 22, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this
By Jim Wooten September 22, 2006 06:05 My aim here really is to have substantive discussions and I hate having to play speech police just to screen out a few high-schoolish postings
Hahahahahahaha.
Here’s the post that I challenged and it’s still there^^:
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka’s Al Qaeda I September 22, 2006 11:39 AM Just thinking - you know, if Mr. Bill Clinton is our first black President, then Dumbya could be called our First Lady President…
Substantive discussions, eh?
By time for the truth
September 22, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this
It will be much better with the delay lifted. The vast majority of folks self censor to a pretty reasonable degree. Most of us conservatives only crank up the rhetoric in response to the likes of rednekkks and others who continuously post homosexual, inflammatory racial and other crude/vulgar abuse at certain conservative regulars and white southerners.
Mirroring back such unwarranted and ignorant abuse can be fun - although rednekkks seems determined to very aggressively abuse anyone who disagrees with it’s visceral bigotry. Words in cyber space from total strangers shouldn’t really upset anyone - even the very vulgar images that rednekkks and other lefties use. But there is an (unspoken) sense of public decency which occasionally I may unwittingly or even somewhat deliberately challenge.
Winding up the more rigid, inarticulate, sullen liberals is entertaining and excellent cyber sport, usually though one doesn’t need to resort to a rednekkks level of abuse to elicit a pleasing response.
Indeed even serious purely factual posts and Jim’s daily factual articles can greatly inflame the average pinko. Their (collective) intolerance for other view points is legendary and their rejection of logic and rational argument is also clear as Rush and Dr Savage regularly point out.
The highly personal, happily only rather occasional very crude/graphic abuse though from certain anonymous individuals goes too far and should be cracked down. It isn’t clever or original and is needless. If you want to wind someone up or ridicule someone/thing then use your wit and erudition. There may be more tender types on here who aren’t used to such adult imagery/language - and even kids or teens. Its a tough balance to strike and thus far Jim seems to have been pretty reasonable - it is his blog and his responsibility.
I think that rednekkks should be permanently banned though from posting overnight - ooops it already is :)
By Read It Quick Before The Censor Gets It
September 22, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this
By time for the truth September 22, 2006 06:38 PM It will be much better with the delay lifted. The vast majority of folks self censor to a pretty reasonable degree.
That’s all well and good but you are assuming that the search for a more “substantive discussion” and the new found lack of tolerance for off color remarks (with honest to goodness swear words still here^^ for all to see) is the real reason for the “delay.”
This blog has been up for what, 3 months or so, and I suggest you go look through the archives at some of the most foul, terrible, filthy things that you can imagine, comfortably resting for eternity within the AJC servers and then ask yourself, why the sudden aversion to descriptions of sexual acts that they teach 10 year olds in grade school?
Maybe, possibly, could it be an imposed delay, one that we have to “work on getting lifted,” something mandated by management because of the relatively close proximity of the November elections?
Seems odd that Luckovich would also search for “substantive discussion” by just totally shutting his blog down, doesn’t it?
This “news” paper has tried everything under the sun and within reason to dislodge me from within this once happy pinko domain. This is just another attempt to silence a voice that is totally devastating to their filthy depraved left wing agenda and it’s attendant source of revenue.
Either that or they really do find things like this to be “substantive:”
By Political Foreskin September 22, 2006 09:11 AM The Dixie Chicks see Chavez for what he is: a lyricis. The norcross man has six Chicks-he-Dicks? My wife smells like vics vapo rub, if he can stand it, make it seven. Then make him governor. Just take my wife, please.
By Luckovich Censors Conservatives
September 22, 2006 08:12 PM | Link to this
The truth is out:
How boring is this? If it were just a few Kool-Aid-drinking nuts, no one would care. But now you have entire media outlets that have gone hyper-partisan. Newspapers like The Boston Globe and The Atlanta Journal-Constitution are just about entirely left-wing. Yes, their circulations are in a free fall, but no journalistic enterprise should be hyper-partisan.
By Andie, You're a Fine Girl
September 22, 2006 10:46 PM | Link to this
Read It Quick Before It Gets Censored and Luckovich Censors Conservatives - is one of you my Andie?
Good golly, girlfriend, how am I supposed to know it’s you?
Mr. Wooten, I’m a USN Seamen First Class - thank you for letting us servicemen post “after hours”. I like to come on the blog to see what kind of trouble my gal is stirring up with those darn libruls - let me tell you, she’s a wildcat in the sack - too bad she’s a girl, she’d make a heckuva Marine.
You know, she’s not the prettiest thing I’ve ever laid eyes on, but man oh man she makes up for it with experience and enthusiasm.
She cries alot though.
By Read It Quick Before It Gets Censored
September 23, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this
Freakout:
FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON ON NOT CAPTURING BIN LADEN: ‘At least I tried. That’s the difference between me and some, including all the right wingers. They ridicule me for trying. They had eight months to try, they did not try. I tried. So I tried and failed’…
Mental case?
Hey, I can’t find this story nowhere in the Saturday AJC, why’s that? They didn’t censor it, did they?
Cut
Top of the front page of today’s Al Jazeera Constitution:
No photo ID needed Nov. 7
Why such happiness?
You still have to print up al those fake utility bills, that battle is not yet won, liberal.
Cut
Angela Tuck, spreader of the “truth” at the Pinko Times: Last month, British-based Reuters news service discovered that at least two photographs taken of the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict by a Lebanese freelancer had been altered. That often conflicts with the newspaper’s goal of presenting a fair and accurate picture.
So why didn’t “policy” keep you from running them, huh, huh?
Those and the 250 other obvious fakes you’ve printed the last 5 years.
Cut
They’re down in the polls because of job performance so let’s make up a story about them being “swift boated!!!!:”
Swift Boat ad bankroller targets 2 Ga. Democrats, Washington —- The Texas millionaire who paid for the Swift Boat ads against Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry in 2004 is now taking aim at a pair of Democratic congressmen from Georgia.
This has the same intellectual honesty behind it as saying that Howard Dean is against Johny Isaakson. Of course he is, what don’t you libs understand about the word “national?” As in RNC and dNC?
This is a fake election season story meant to drum up sympathy by these two failed pinko legislatures being VICTIMIZED!! by the evil swift boaters!!
By Political Foreskin
September 23, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this
Pakistan’s Prez Musharraf bashed Bush worse than Hugo Chavez or Iran’s Prez ever did. When asked to comment on the “Ideological Struggle of the 21st Century” he declined comment, citing Simon and Shuster’s publisher’s perogative.
This makes a joke out of every single warning we’ve received from the Bush Spin Factory. It’s all a joke. NO war on terror, no sleeper cells, no WMD, no nothing but the occasional lunatics blowing up a plane, train, or automobile, which is what we’ve lived with for a hundred years.
Imagine: “Yesterday, December Seventh, nineteen forty one, a date that will live in infamy, combined air and naval forces of the empire of Japan suddenly and deliberately attacked our navy at Pearl Harbor. I want to act as our president, but my publishers have forbidden me to comment until Monday, when my new book comes out, “That darn Jap”. “
We’ve been HAD, people. Simon and Shuster indeed. Bush is a total fool and the laughing stock of 5.7 billion people who aint americans, and of 150 million americans, (if we are split 50/50 into liberty lovers versus facists-stunt-doubles for der military-industrial-complex).
911 changed everything alright. It exposed the charade of the Bush Doctrine of spin and wait. Spin some plausible denial, and wait for it to blow over. (spin and wait was also Lewinski’s foreplay technique, but that’s another story).
By getalife
September 23, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this
The mad spammer here today is known as Andy from the Mike Luckovich blog. Along with RW and Buy Danish, these folks think they are right about everything and never admit failures. They are intellectually dishonest and will resort to name calling.
They set up shop to shut down Mike’s blog and now they want to shut down this blog. They are happy to steal the freedom of speech and they are very bad Americans.
By Luckovich Censors KKKooks
September 23, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
Just to be accurate.
By Gay Cons Hate Mike
September 23, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
We can’t stand him.
By getalife
September 23, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this
Today, there are reports that OBL died last month in Pakistan.
On Fox, Clinton said this:
“WALLACE: Do you think you did enough sir?
CLINTON: No, because I didn’t get him.
WALLACE: Right…
CLINTON: But at least I tried. That’s the difference in me and some, including all the right wingers who are attacking me now. They ridiculed me for trying. They had eight months to try and they didn’t…I tried. So I tried and failed. When I failed I left a comprehensive anti-terror strategy and the best guy in the country, Dick Clarke… So you did FOX’s bidding on this show. You did you nice little conservative hit job on me.”
Nice try wingnuts.
By Political Foreskin
September 23, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this
Bush appeared with Musharraf to counter the brutal tongue lashing he received in a one-two punch from Iran and Venezuala’s prez.
With so much at stake, the fact that the press conference dissolved into a clown act book plugging is the turning point in the war on terror, and the GOP’s chances to hold on to the house and senate. (and white house).
How could there be a book? How? How is that appropriate in any way shape or form at this point in the 911 saga? A book? 3000 americans dead, Osama still at large, and he plugs his book?
And of course, the right dont see nuthin wrong wid dat. What? So what? He has a right to write. Right?
Newt Ginrich wrote a book about woman “straddling athwart a man’s chest”, or some such horrid syntax, (the man is a goon.)
How did we get here? Newt is an author! Libby is an author. Here’s a sample of Scooter Libby’s novel: the story line has a scene where a girl is forced to have sex in a cage with a bear. yes, a bear.
Family values! The Right has not a stitch of creditability left to right this wayward ship of state. There are only loose cannons with loose canons.
We are currently adrift in this damnable current of war. We need to end the war now. Pull back our entire army to Kurdistan and wait to see what happens.
Scenario: The civil war will segregate the armed camps and then we can intervene effectively because the bad guys will be jerrymandered by military necessity and thus obvious. It’s what we should have done two years ago.
By Chickenhawks Hate Luckovich
September 23, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
Maladjusted nancyboy chickenhawks absolutely can’t stand Luckovich.
By Political Foreskin
September 23, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
Perhaps we can tell if we’re winning the war on terror by comparing book sales. If Musharraf’s book, “Line of Fire”, is number 3 on the NY Times bestseller list, and Bush’s book, “Mein Pet Kampf” is number 4, then we are losing.
Maybe the next 911 will be a tell all BOOK about our Secretary of Defense called, “Rummy Dearest”.
I am a lib. that’s short for liberty. which starts with L which stands for the double L at the end of “hell” which is what I’m in…when I see our Prez, which starts with P and rhymes with WMD which is what aint there, except in books, which is what we’ll sell when we get to hell which is where we’re going…
By getalife
September 23, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
If OBL is dead, this means he was never brought to justice like w promised. They let him get away with it to invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
The insanity continues in Iraq and our country will never be the same.
By Luckovich Censors Conservatives
September 23, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this
By getalife September 23, 2006 09:39 AM On Fox, Clinton said this: “WALLACE: Do you think you did enough sir? CLINTON: No, because I didn’t get him.
Here’s the clip from YouTube, to help you sort through the haters/ censors of the truth:
Bill Clinton Freaks Out
By time for the truth
September 23, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this
I hope that no one ruins this blog - from the left or right.
deranged foreskin is still ranting deleriously about absolutely nothing and still absurdly thinks its funny!!
the Ryder Cup is still going very well - clearly Woods chokes when ever it rains or there is real pressure and NO MONEY at stake.
this really isn’t the place for obsessive ranting about Luckovich on here - no matter how vile his leftist views. this is where there is thankfully still some semblance of debating left (aside from getabrain and rednekkks et al) and the left get their comedic and intellectual comeuppance :)
By Political Foreskin
September 23, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this
No, takeawife, that’s not what that would mean if OBL is indeed dead. If he IS dead, then it means that he never mattered anyway. The 911 saga has unfolded with or without him and the copycat mini-911s in Spain and Britain show that we have an independent war on terror to contend with, (so let’s invade Litchenstein).
“You’re either with us, or with the terrorists”. That sounded correct in 2001, but try it out now. It’s ridiculous. It’s a bumper sticker slogan with no meaning, like every statement Bush had made about what we were going to do to Osama and Al Queda post 911.
There was only ever one goal: to invade Iraq. This war is the direct descendant of the remnants of unfulfilled fantasies of glorious victory that were born when 41 cut short the denouement at the end of Desert Storm. This Iraq War is the military’s headstrong vengence for the unrequited love of total war and total victory they were denied by a civilian commander in chief. This Iraq War is a military coup against that civilian leadership.
It’s as if our president has Munchauser’s-by-Proxy concerning this country. He’s abusing the constitution simply to get attention from spin doctors. God help us all.
We need to impeach Bush/Cheney now.
By Luckovich Censors Conservatives
September 23, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this
By time for the truth September 23, 2006 10:15 AM this really isn’t the place for obsessive ranting about ———>REDNECKS<——— on here
Some things y’all want to here, some things you don’t.
Same with me.
I ain’t the one deleting anything.
I ain’t the one preventing anyone from speaking.
It’s like Islamic fascists don’t like being called violent so they shoot a Nun in the back to protest it.
Or the AJC don’t like being called censors so they delete a bunch of posts.
Alice In Wonderland, anyone?
By time for the truth
September 23, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this
enjoy the story so far
By Political Foreskin
September 23, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this
Timeforthetruth goes in to a bar…….
By time for the truth
September 23, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
LCS
goading rednekkks on here has become a traditional bloodsport.
you do seem a wee bit obsessed about this Luckovich thing mate. it is the ajc’s sandpit and they get to let folks play in it — or not
By Read It Quick Before It Gets Censored
September 23, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this
A French newspaper published what it said was a report by the country’s intelligence services that said Saudi Arabia believes Osama bin Laden died of typhoid in Pakistan this month.
Bush denied him access to basic health care facilities and he DIED!
Bush rules!
Mission Accomplished!!!
By Dusty
September 23, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Political Foreskin,
Why don’t you get your own blog? I’d like to read something other than your voluminous DNC propaganda.
It could all be encapsulated in a few words: “I hate Bush.”
By R. Parry
September 23, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
The historical facts relating to Republican contacts with Iran’s Islamic regime 25 years ago are relevant today because an underlying theme in Bush’s rationale for war is that direct negotiations with Iran are pointless. But Bush’s own father may know otherwise.
The evidence is now persuasive that George H.W. Bush participated in negotiations with Iran’s radical regime in 1980, behind Carter’s back, with the goal of arranging for 52 American hostages to be released after Bush and Reagan were sworn in.
In exchange, the Republicans agreed to let Iran obtain U.S.-manufactured military supplies through Israel. The Iranians kept their word, releasing the hostages immediately upon Reagan’s swearing-in on Jan. 20, 1981.
Over the next few years, the Republican-Israel-Iran weapons pipeline operated mostly in secret, only exploding into public view with the Iran-Contra scandal in late 1986. Even then, the Reagan-Bush team was able to limit congressional and other investigations, keeping the full history and the 1980 chapter hidden from the American people.
By R. Parry
September 23, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
The historical facts relating to Republican contacts with Iran’s Islamic regime 25 years ago are relevant today because an underlying theme in Bush’s rationale for war is that direct negotiations with Iran are pointless. But Bush’s own father may know otherwise.
The evidence is now persuasive that George H.W. Bush participated in negotiations with Iran’s radical regime in 1980, behind Carter’s back, with the goal of arranging for 52 American hostages to be released after Bush and Reagan were sworn in.
In exchange, the Republicans agreed to let Iran obtain U.S.-manufactured military supplies through Israel. The Iranians kept their word, releasing the hostages immediately upon Reagan’s swearing-in on Jan. 20, 1981.
Over the next few years, the Republican-Israel-Iran weapons pipeline operated mostly in secret, only exploding into public view with the Iran-Contra scandal in late 1986. Even then, the Reagan-Bush team was able to limit congressional and other investigations, keeping the full history and the 1980 chapter hidden from the American people.
By Ditzty
September 23, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this
Hey everyone lets all sing the Star Spangeled Banner! Then we can recite the Pledge!
Lets celebrate America! Up, up with people!
By time for the truth
September 23, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this
LCS
Nope - you’re hopelessly wrong again … using this blog to obsessively “settle scores” from elsewhere is pretty puerile. You’ve made your point REPEATEDLY. There is nowt else to say on it.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this
I see that Jim’s “substantive discussion” from Polly Prepuce is in full swing again today. Perhaps the censors should delete a few conservative news stories to get out of that freaks way.
Here’s an older clip of Clinton in full finger pointing, vein popping rage. Was he telling the truth that time? He certainly does have a way about him when he’s lying his backside off. Great story here about Bill’s one attempt.
By Nomi Prins
September 23, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
Top Ten Ways We Got Jacked by Conservatives By Nomi Prins
Had enough of ‘conservative’ rip-off artists in Washington? Here’s a list of the worst offenses we’ve seen since 2001.
1) The Bush administration has created the biggest budget deficit, debt, and trade imbalance ever while cutting funding for domestic needs like education, Medicare, and Medicaid.
2) The administration’s tax cuts favor the rich, no matter how you look at it. About 87 percent of tax benefits go to the 14 percent of households with incomes above $100,000. Households with incomes below $75,000 — three-quarters of all households — get just 5 percent of those benefits.
3) Bush signed the largest corporate tax break package in two decades, $136 billion. After World War II, corporations paid half the cost of running the federal government. Today, they pay 7%.
4) The price of gas doubled under Bush. The top oil companies earned $25 billion during the quarter that Hurricane Katrina struck compared to $50 billion for all of 2004. Former Exxon-Mobil, CEO, Lee Raymond got a $400 million exit package.
5) The Republican Congress has voted against every minimum wage increase, except the one linked to getting rid of the estate tax for the rich. The real income of the average American household has fallen five years in a row.
6) House Republicans chopped education programs by $14.3 billion — the highest cuts ever. College tuition has increased 34 percent since Bush took office.
7) Since 2001, average monthly health care premiums have risen from $342 to $603. Annual deductibles have doubled. Today 46 million Americans (including 8.4 million children) have no health insurance, an increase of 6 million since Bush took office.
8) The Senate approved the biggest bankruptcy law in a quarter of a century. Republicans voted AGAINST protecting senior citizens, the seriously ill, military members, veterans, and employees.
9) In 1983, the Greenspan Commission put Social Security measures in place that created a $1.7 trillion surplus in the system. This administration borrowed against and cut that to $153 billion while blaming citizens for not dying young enough.
10) In 2005, Americans paid $4.3 billion in withdrawal fees at ATM’s and $16 billion to credit card companies in late fees alone. Republicans have suggested no remedies.
Nomi Prins is a senior fellow at the public policy center Demos and author of Other People’s Money and Jacked: How “Conservatives” are Picking your Pocket (Whether you voted for them or not).
By Jim Wooten
September 23, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this
Morning all.
Luckovich Censors Conservatives: I did take down a number of your posts, including some that as I read them later contained no offensive language. For the first time yesterday, I uninvited a couple of posters who show up here periodically to leave little stink-bombs without contributing anything productive to the discussion. I don’t want the conversation here that often occurs on Luckovich’s blog. While I usually enjoy the entertainment intent of much of the banter that takes place in the midst of substantive discussions here, a steady diet of two-sentence vitriol gets old.
For the record, that blog and how he operates it are of no material interest to me, nor do I imagine this one is to him. His politics are not mine. And I’m not a conduit for addressing problems with Mike or his blog any more than I’m responsible for or involved in decisions about what goes on the front page of The New York Times.
A number of posters take issue with me for failing to exclude a particular liberal who is intentionally provocative in ways that many find offensive. His invective sometimes gets in the way of the serious points he’s making, but on the whole I don’t get the impression that his intent is simply to drop stink-bombs and walk away. If somebody’s engaging the issue, even if I am sometimes turned off by their choice of language or approach, I’m not inclined to exclude them.
By Maladjusted Closeted Homosexuals Hate Luckovich
September 23, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this
Not for any good reason, we just do.
By getalife
September 23, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this
Just as I posted, this bill is to cover their a-ss
Where did our morals go?
By Right Thinking Conservative
September 23, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this
Bush – hating. Now there’s an interesting catch phrase used more often to suppress honest critics than to identify the over-the-top-irate lunatics. I can’t say much favorable for the politics practiced by Jimmy Who Carter or The Chicks; however, unlike Hugo Chavez they can say anything they want about our President – because he’s our Diablo. Moral of the story goes: I can call my bother something very nasty but don’t you dare try to say one bad word against him.
For some among our number – mostly hacks – pointing out the facts about “our dangerous fool” upon the world scene as he emerged campaigning back in 2000 against “nation building” and steadfastly declaring he would never engage in such – liberal Democrat – practices as our President when in national televised debate, pointing to that now, would probably be called Bush-hating. No, not pointing out a George Bush flip-flopping, no not pointing out George Bush lying, it would just be down right mean-spirited Bush – hating!
Ah but that was before 9/11 but then again how so?
I never liked the phrase “one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter” simply because it gives credibility to evil as my conscience might have it. But, on a different day, in a different time, my freedom fighters and yours were seen as terrorists by an English King. Their extremist radical idealism laid down forevermore a balm for conscience sake: Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
Iraq had elections under Saddam. Iraq had elections under George Bush. Both were conducted at gun point in world candor. Though never has Iraq had elections freely – absent gun point – under the Iraqis. Or perhaps what the world is now witness to, in this non-civil civil war, as it so-called sectarian violence, is the Iraqis holding their version of election primaries. Much as it occurred in a different day, in a different time, under a different Texan winning hearts and minds for Democracy in a divided American occupied Vietnam. Either way, it is their nation these Iraqis are building without the consent of George Bush and our dying freedom fighters, who are now and will increasingly be seen by the rest of the world as the other man’s terrorist.
By I Hate Being Gay
September 23, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
And I hate the AJC and Mike Luckovich.
By @@
September 23, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
I find Political Foreskin’s obsession with Musharraf’s book a demand for his own personal justice. Political Foreskin aspires to be a writer and fails miserably in his efforts. He’s jealous?
If he wasn’t so uncomfortable with his present state, he might be intelligent or objective enough to pull back the folds of his “projection” to reveal a more “in-depth” perspective on the timing of Musharraf’s book. It’s an “itchy” subject that can be viewed from many different angles. Sticking yours in everybody’s face doesn’t make it an acceptable fact.
Why did Musharraf wait five years before revealing the Armitage comment? Hmmmmmmm…
Why don’t you bring your “projection” In From the Wilderness PF. Things tend to dry up there, and disentegrate into dust.
Poof!!!
By Right Thinking Conservative
September 23, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
Bush – hating. Now there’s an interesting catch phrase used more often to suppress honest critics than to identify the over-the-top-irate lunatics. I can’t say much favorable for the politics practiced by Jimmy Who Carter or The Chicks; however, unlike Hugo Chavez they can say anything they want about our President – because he’s our Diablo. Moral of the story goes: I can call my bother something very nasty but don’t you dare try to say one bad word against him.
For some among our number – mostly hacks – pointing out the facts about “our dangerous fool” upon the world scene as he emerged campaigning back in 2000 against “nation building” and steadfastly declaring he would never engage in such – liberal Democrat – practices as our President when in national televised debate, pointing to that now, would probably be called Bush-hating. No, not pointing out a George Bush flip-flopping, no not pointing out George Bush lying, it would just be down right mean-spirited Bush – hating!
Ah but that was before 9/11 but then again how so?
I never liked the phrase “one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter” simply because it gives credibility to evil as my conscience might have it. But, on a different day, in a different time, my freedom fighters and yours were seen as terrorists by an English King. Their extremist radical idealism laid down forevermore a balm for conscience sake: Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
Iraq had elections under Saddam. Iraq had elections under George Bush. Both were conducted at gun point in world candor. Though never has Iraq had elections freely – absent gun point – under the Iraqis. Or perhaps what the world is now witness to, in this non-civil civil war, as it so-called sectarian violence, is the Iraqis holding their version of election primaries. Much as it occurred in a different day, in a different time, under a different Texan winning hearts and minds for Democracy in a divided American occupied Vietnam. Either way, it is their nation these Iraqis are building without the consent of George Bush and our dying freedom fighters, who are now and will increasingly be seen by the rest of the world as the other man’s terrorist.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this
Perhaps people should concentrate on the content of the posts from someone rather that the name they are posting under. “Luckovich censors conservatives” has linked to and brought up several topics worthy of debate, yet “time for the truth” and “Jim Wooten” seem to think that because of the name he is posting under that is all he offers. My advice would be to quit obsessing and discuss, but this ain’t my blog so by all means obsess.
Jim,
The article of yours that begins this thread touches briefly on a litany of topics. Most bloggers would consider that an “open thread,” please advise if you want to limit the sphere of discussion.
By Luckovich Censors KKKooks
September 23, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this
Poof!!!
Back at you, @@ old buddy girl.
By Luckovich Censors Conservatives
September 23, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this
By Nomi Prins September 23, 2006 11:04 AM 1) The Bush administration has created the biggest budget deficit, debt, and trade imbalance ever while cutting funding for domestic needs like education, Medicare, and Medicaid.
Bush has cut medicare and education spending, eh?
Now that’s what I call some “substantive” discussion.
By Jim Wooten
September 23, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
Limit the spheres of discussion? Absolutely not, RW. The conversation often turns to more current topics, or those sparked by somebody’s comment. By all means go there.
By Angry Whiny Gay Guy
September 23, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
Not all of us gay people are happy.
I’m very angry, AND I HATE THE AJC AND MIKE LUCKOVICH.
By Van
September 23, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this
Right Thinking Conservative
“I never liked the phrase “one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter” simply because it gives credibility to evil as my conscience might have it. “
Also because it is not ever true. As with your example of our revolution, the main target was the British military and their mercenaries on this side of the big pond.
A terrorist is a indiscriminate killer, they will kill for any reason and inflict it upon civilian or military alike.
As found in the online dictionary,
“the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion”
You free my people or else we will kill 10 civilians - that is terrorism.
You are a non-believe so we will rain rockets down on your cities - that is terrorism.
We want the US military out of Iraq, or we will blow up a police station. That is terrorism.
Do not ever confuse a terrorist for the freedom fighters as we saw them in WWII. The Resistance should always be the guide, they may not have been perfect, they may done things we would call terrorism now, but they were true freedom fighters.
By Sometimes I'm Andy, Most times I'm Andie
September 23, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this
I’m very moody. AND I HATE THE AJC AND MIKE LUCKOVICH!
By Luckovich Censors Conservatives
September 23, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this
Jim: Apology accepted.
By I Hate Being Gay September 23, 2006 11:15 AM And I hate the AJC and Mike Luckovich.
I have no beef with you or your blog, same as you have nothing to do with Luckovich.
My beef lies with the entire AJC, no section in particular, of which you are indelibly connected, so to speak.
It’s the whole lounging in Anti American filth^^^ that burns me up and I just happen to know how to share the discomfort.
Some people just can’t take it.
They are welcome to shame me or prove me wrong, I am not going to cut and run.
I will, however, from now on, watch the “politeness” of my comments.
Let’s call it an olive branch.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this
Who thinks it’s a good idea to videotape his charitable acts and air them on his television show?
Since Olberman wants to use MSNBC to promote his own acts of charity he’s got a heck of a nerve claiming that FNC doesn’t give news. As Allahpundit points out, Olby almost certainly hasn’t seen this interview yet.
By Lounging in Filth
September 23, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this
I’m sitting here typing. My diaper is full. Mama is going to be so mad at me. She’s gonna make me wear the rubber pants again.
I HATE MIKE LUCKOVICH AND THE AJC!
By time for the truth
September 23, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
RW seemingly is being a little bit anal/snotty - especially with that last sentence. Just about any political topic is fine with me. If I have no interest I just ignore it - as most folks do with most topics raised. All I was doing was suggest that obsessing about other blogs and settling other scores on here is not what a freewheeling politics blog is about. LCS made his point repeatedly yesterday and earlier today. If everyone used this blog to vent on such personal grievances - regardless of the merit of such grievances -we’d all be bored witless. I looked at two links LCS posted to me and neither of them even work!! I said nothing negative to LCS yesterday - if no one says anything s/he might well continue to whine about this minor matter for days … or longer.
It does seem that certain Luckovich “refugees” are niggling about nothing very much on here. We’ve had no real problems on this blog except for a couple of execrable morons posting graphic, crude “hit and run” abuse. There are always a few folks in cyber space who get obsessed about minor slights/grievances and carry it on - imposing it on others who have no interest or any part in it. I imagine that Luckovich - if he even cares -is smirking his usual Bush hating smirk at all this. Hopefully this minor matter will now quietly be forgotten.
No one on here I am aware of is seeking to censor anyone!!
By getalife
September 23, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this
The truth is Andy spams right wing opinions and are not worthy of debate.
The best part of blogging is to seek the truth on actual news. The MSM has failed to provide the truth but you can find it on the blogs.
Opinions are the spin of the truth to suit the political bias of the author.
By Van
September 23, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
Luckovich Censors Conservatives,
Face it, with Cynthia Tucker, the AJC will never get close to the middle of the road, much less love America.
There Bush hating closes their eyes to everything else. Why else would they exclude the fact that the coup in Thailand was muslim lead. General Sonthi Boonyaratglin, the highest ranking muslim in that country, with the endorsement of the King and the Mulim rebels in the south, have taken an entire country. But where does that news come from - not the AJC.
Did the AJC report that Sheik Abu Saqer, leader of Gaza’s Jihadia Salafiya Islamic outreach movement, calls for a holy war against the Pope? I did not see it in the AJC, I might have missed it.
BTW, did the AJC voice outrage when Christian churches were burned in Gaza? How about the burning of the YMCA in the West Bank. No? Hmm I detect a growing bias against good and the AJC seems to be siding with the evil in this world.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this
Kind of like the snoozefest brought on by reading windy diatribes by someone claiming it’s time for the truth. When you have no talent for writing you should probably limit your comment to just your point tftt.
Luckovich censors conservatives,
Look at what paper is finally getting around to admitting the truth
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda
September 23, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this
Greetings, good people and you redneck trash too. It is I, Pope rednecks - Amerikkka’s Al Qaeda I (praise be unto me).
I merely post the painful truths about KKKonservatives here, and then must endure the slings and arrows and vile filth directed towards me by mentally ill cowards and chickenhawks with daddy and sexual identity issues.
Yet I do not suffer, not in the least, because I am doing the Lord’s work.
God bless all of you. Even the animals.
I offer this prayer, as the World’s Bishop:
Lord, deliver us from redneck retardation. Remove the infection of their fear and small minded hatreds from our world, send them to hell, as they are miserable here and seem determined to make us like them.
Amen.
By time for the truth
September 23, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this
Dont bother reading them you snotty little wanker RW!!…smirk
you are another one of these anal control freaks!!
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
September 23, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
In honor of OBL’s passing and since I sense that the blog moderator asked politely, from now on I will leave Luckovich out of it.
At least until he turns his putrid little playground back on.
Who says us Conservatives never offer concessions?
Speaking of which^^ anybody want to guess at tomorrow’s headlines in the Pinko Times?
“OBL denied basic health care by BUSH!”
“BUSH! denied, OBL died!”
By getalife
September 23, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this
The truth does have a liberal bias due to the wingnit spin and pure lies.
Deal with reality.
Lets take Iraq for example.
This is reality.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda
September 23, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
Maybe someone can help me out here - who is this Andy/Andie person that everyone is carrying on about - anybody know which sex it is?
Thanks, it will help my ministry to him/her.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this
tftt,
You will never find me trying to control the speech of anyone else, jerk. I merely offered a suggestion as to how you could get people to pay attention to you.
All,
Hopefully we will have video soon. Fox has released a little more of the Clinton interview with Chris Wallace.
Clinton tries to diffuse the question by invoking Somalia and saying the “rightwingers” blame him, but nobody knew Al Qaeda existed in 1993. Wallace doesn’t let him get by with that and presses saying something like, “didn’t you know they existed when they declared war in 1996, didn’t you know they existed when they bombed our embassies in 1998?”
You then see Clinton start a rage, but they stop the new clip so we don’t know if it’s the same finger wagging rage that has already been linked to here.
By I Don't Wave My Finger
September 23, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this
It’s usually in my diaper.
I HATE THE AJC AND MIKE LUCKOVICH!
By time for the truth
September 23, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this
Real Wanker
I dont - nor does anyone else on here - need your arrogant patronising bollocks!!
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
September 23, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this
Since Wooten does not want his blog to descend into mindless immaturity, I am unable to respond to Al Qaeda’s Concubine, for doing that would mean lower myself to it’s level, a level Jim does not desire.
I will therefore remain on the high ground and let the liberals insult homosexuals. (oops, can’t help it sometimes.)
But come Monday, if that sissy, er, Luckovich uncensors his blog, you are more than welcome to bring your ignorant un American rear end over there where I will promptly dispose of you.
Deal?
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta today! First, bin Laden is reportedly dead. Or dying. Or whatever. In any event, I don’t believe it. But it’s the kind of rumor I dig. Thanks to everyone that e-mailed it to me. The way I read the report, though, was not that bin Laden is dead, but that he is very sick. knock on wood either way
The next paragraph should not be read by getaclue so that he doesn’t, well… get a clue.
But a much bigger story is that the leader of Ansar al Sunnah, Muntasir al-Jibouri, has been captured! This is big news. And unlike the bin Laden ‘news’, this one seems likely to be true.
By getalife
September 23, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
Yes RW, he is telling the truth this time. He set a bad example with the truth but w took it to a whole new level.
He did try and failed. W did not try and when he had the chance to get justice in Tora Bora he chose to invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
That is reality, deal with it.
By I Talk Butch
September 23, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this
But I’m really a sissy cowardly chickenhawk bottom.
I hate myself. AND I HATE THE AJC AND MIKE LUCKOVICH.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this
gitmolife,
You are partially right, Clinton wasn’t lying when he said hew was a failure.
tftt,
Do you bring anything substantive ever or just your pettiness and your attempts to get people that call you on it to leave?
By bon scott
September 23, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
I hope the dream of lifting tolls on Ga. 400 bears fruit. But don’t bet the farm. Politicians are addicted to cash flow. Since WW2 (as far as I know) the only major highway in the US to lift tolls has been the Connecticut Turnpike (in 1986). And that had nothing to do with bonds being paid off. Seems folks got tired of trucks plowing into cars at tollbooths, killing people.
Nice idea, though.
getalife, let Andy be Andy! He’ll either revert to form (and be banned… Wooten has standards; Luckovich never did) or learn to control his alcohol-fueled impulses. We’ll see.
RW, why are right-wing newspapers in the US (what few there are) such failures? Maybe people don’t buy them because they don’t like what they print? A newspaper is, after all, a business. While the papers wingnuts hate (NYT, WashPost, LATimes) aren’t the cash cows they used to be, they still make money like they have a license to print it.
By Who's Lying Now??
September 23, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this
I’ve never had sex with a man.
Well, I do HATE THE AJC AND MIKE LUCKOVICH. That much is true.
By Barbara
September 23, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this
Good afternoon Jim. I’m getting on a little late; took the dogs to their first training class this morning.
First I must say, to my dear friend Buy Danish, if you’re reading this, thanks a lot for making me lose sleep last night. I can’t tell you when I’ve ever been called a liberal before! After I got finished LMFAO, I just couldn’t get that out of my head. I most certainly am NOT a liberal!
Jim, I never paid attention to the ML blog until recently. I went over there and looked a few times just to see what was all the fuss about. It was completely different than your blog. It was nothing but name-calling over there. No substanitive conversation at all. When I first started reading and participating in your blog, the “regulars”, both conservative and liberal, managed to have some really decent, thought-provoking and substanitive conversations. Recently, however, it does seem that some of the ML trolls have slimed their way over here and are carrying on their same childish behaviors, making your blog less fun.
I feel for you. I have no idea how to prevent your blog from going downhill as long as these creeps keep behaving like they do. (Specifically getalife and whoever the freak is that keeps changing his name, such as ML censors, Andie’s girl, AJC’s a filthy rag, etc.) I can only gess that it’s one troll that thinks it’s cute to change their name like those mentioned above.
I again suggest a registration, complete with valid email address where a password must be sent in order to activate membership. That would keep the trolls off, and would also keep people from posting under a diffenent ID every time just to be (in their own eyes) cute.
Personally I am sorry that this is happening. I really have enjoyed your blog, and have learned a lot from those who are willing to share their opinions (both left and right). I hope you will be able to find some way to continue this blog, and keep it fun and interesting.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this
Here’s the audio of Clinton admitting that he didn’t try to get Bin Laden back when it would have done some good.
Getting him now is meaningless except to some weepy liberal idea of “closure.” The problem is you libs would think the war really was over when we got him and you would end up getting a bunch more of us killed.
By getalife
September 23, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this
Yes RW,
All that peace and prosperity was really bad.
Shees.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda
September 23, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this
Well, Luckovich Hater, ye of the many screennames - it has been fun watching you masterdebate yourself into self destruction on Mr. Wooten’s blog these last couple of days. You obviously have some issues.
Maybe I’ll join you over at Luckovich’s if he reopens. But I hate having to wade through all the cut and paste SPAM unoriginal crapola over there.
Now don’t worry, tftt, Jim, this is my first home - so I’ll still post here, too.
By getalife
September 23, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
Sorry you can’t handle the truth Babs.
I deal with reality but thanks for reading my rhetoric.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this
Barbara,
If you go back to before the Luckovich blog started implementing all the changes, like this delay, you will find that there were almost always good discussions. You still had to read around the childish taunts, but there were some great debates.
Once they started restricting it, it became the cesspool it is today. When they put in the delay they also started deleting comments that were politically upsetting to liberals but not offensive in the least. That’s one reason you go back and can’t find the discussions. They’ve removed one side in many cases. That’s what I fear this blog is going to come to if they follow that road. I was greatly heartened to read that Jim is going to try to get then to take the delay off. That’s a start at least.
One thing that you will unfortunately find is that Andy, Buy Danish, and myself have a few liberal followers that have been beaten by us so badly in debate that they will do ANYTHING to get us silenced.
By Julia
September 23, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
My comment is on the voter ID. I don’t understand all the opposition to it and it leads me to believe the people who oppose it have ulterior motives regarding their opposition.
After all, do all of the people who oppose the Voter ID bill oppose showing ID’s to purchase alcohol, enter a night club, buy tobacco, cash a check, use a credit card or any of the other actions that require presenting an ID?
I don’t think so, so why should they mind proving who they are to vote… unless they are not who they say they are. That’s the only reason that makes sense to me.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Somalia, the first World Trade Center bombings, Khobar towers, embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, USS Cole…..
Just because you pretend your enemy doesn’t exist doesn’t mean you were at peace. He also left the country in recession when he left office. Thanks for playing and sadly you lose again.
By Jim Wooten
September 23, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
Barbara, welcome. Now I’m off to run errands so you’ll have to keep the afternoon discussion from going the way of the unnamed blog.
By Ashamed of My Gayness
September 23, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this
Thank God for my homegirrrls RW and Bi Danish.
I HATE THE AJC AND MIKE LUCKOVICH. And my gal pals do too!
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this
More from the corrupt Clinton files, Hillary division.
Peter Paul reveals on his blog that Disney executives doctored their ABC 20/20 Clinton Fraud Investigative Report in order to protect Hillary Clinton. The report edited out all references to Hillary’s finance director David Rosen, who apparently used the doctored report to get the jury to acquit him of election fraud.
By Why Can't Gays Serve in the Military
September 23, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this
You know I’d sign up in a heartbeat.
I HATE THE AJC AND MIKE LUCKOVICH.
By Right Thinking Conservative
September 23, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this
Van
As much as I’d like to agree, historical facts simply will not allow the dismissal of the very fine line that exists between terrorist and freedom fighter. As stated previously, simply because it gives credibility to evil as my conscience might have it.
Our revolution targeted British loyalists just as much as it did the British military.
In WWII which Rumsfeld would very much like to make the comparison, America committed a huge amount of “indiscriminate killing”. As much as I like General Curtis Lemay and undoubtedly I agree with his my country right or wrong, show the enemy no mercy stance. In his own words, after the horrendous incendiary bombing of Japan, he said if America was to lose this war that he and all the others would have been tried as war criminals for crimes against humanity. The indiscriminate killing of the Japanese under the orders of General Curtis Lemay really was just that bad and he knew it. Though I make no apologies after what the Japanese government did.
The idiom of I must convert you or I must kill you as much as it pains me to confess has been practiced by this country unjustly at times; the idea that because we are America and Americans, has regrettably given us a false sense of this always being right.
Aptly:
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As found in the online dictionary, “the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion”
You free my people or else we will kill 10 civilians - that is terrorism.
>
Are we not imposing a military coercion upon the Iraqis?
Where are the Iraqis standing up and fighting for our George Bush fashioned Democracy thrust upon them?
Accept our Christian version of freedom or we’ll stay the course no matter how many Iraqi civilians die?
I’m sorely afraid though no dictionary defines what our declaration exposed is that very fine line between what is a terrorist and what is a freedom fighter as being determined by “consent of the governed”.
A people who will not fight for their own freedom, have not given their consent to liberty and therefore do not deserve such freedom, nor should Americans deserve to die for it. It is time we Americans learn that lesson.
Amazing how quickly the former U.S.S.R. dissolved after years of cold and hot wars waged to bring that evil system down, once “the governed” gave their consent?
Neither tyranny nor freedom democracy or socialism can exist without consent from the governed.
By SPAMmaster JAM
September 23, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
Me and my homies like links to meaningless crap and bullsheet. Lately many of our links go to nowhere.
It’s great not having thoughts of your own.
I HATE MIKE LUCKOVICH AND THE AJC.
By bon scott
September 23, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this
By RW-(the original) - September 23, 2006 12:59 PM - ne thing that you will unfortunately find is that Andy, Buy Danish, and myself have a few liberal followers that have been beaten by us so badly in debate that they will do ANYTHING to get us silenced.
I haven’t read anything this delusional in years. You three, but especially Andy, did more to drag ml’s blog into the gutter than everyone else put together. And you never ever scored points in debates. You lost. Beaten by facts.
Dreamer.
Barbara, Buy Danish’s labelling you a “liberal” (like you’re some kind of leper) is just a mild version of the vitriol the Terrible Three like to spread. If you don’t agree with absolutely everything they say, you’re in Dante’s 9th circle.
By getalife
September 23, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this
RW,
I am talking about Iraq. The internet bubble busted.
You always lose because you do not deal with the current administration failures.
I win.
By Cut Cut Cut
September 23, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this
and paste paste paste.
I’m a great conservative mind.
AND I HATE THE AJC AND MIKE LUCKOVICH
By Circle of Jerks
September 23, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this
We love to “stimulate” each other - me, Bi Danish, RW, @@.
We are master debaters! Just ask us.
I HATE MIKE LUCKOVICH AND THE AJC.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this
bonnie,
Since you just showed up at ml’s and claim to know nothing of it’s past, how would you know? Freaking lunatic finch.
By ANGRY INBRED GAY REDNECKS
September 23, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
We are united.
WE HATE MIKE LUCKOVICH AND THE AJC!
By bon scott
September 23, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
Why the double standard on voter IDs? Why are so many Georgia supporters of photo IDs for voting on election day silent about IDs for absentee ballots?
This is especially puzzling since voting day ID fraud is rare, but absentee ballot fraud is quite prevalent.
Could this be because most absentee voters vote Republican?
A photo ID law should cover all voters.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this
getalife,
So you are claiming we were at peace with Iraq and that made everything peachy? First off we WERE NOT at peace with Iraq during the Clinton years and I’m not willing to accept us being attacked everywhere else just as a matter of course and call that peace.
Everyone saw the technology bubble burst coming, if Clinton was the master economist you make him out to be he would have pushed for tax cuts before it burst. In the campaign in 2000, then Governor Bush told the country what was happening to the economy and Vice President Gore said everything was fine and Bush was trying to talk down the economy. As usual, the Republican was correct.
By bon scott
September 23, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this
There ya go, RW. A post with nothing but a personal attack. Thanks SO much for proving my point.
I can read archives too, just like everyone else.
I’m still waiting for you to explain why wingnut newspapers are such colossal failures as businesses.
You know, a reasonable discussion? Like you and your cohorts claim to favor?
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
bonnie,
When you parrot someone like Bookman, word for word, you should at least give him credit.
Frankly I would like to see absentee balloting be made extremely difficult to do, but I guarantee you that liberals would claim that the poor and elderly were being disenfranchised if anybody tried to do it.
finch, didn’t they teach anything about plagiarism at Cornell?
By getalife
September 23, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this
This is the October surprise
By Right Thinking Conservative
September 23, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this
No double standards with this conservative. Secure the ballot box at all costs. Require Photo ID, produce a paper trail, and diligently scrutinize absentee ballots by also requiring conformation through Photo ID before they can be counted. And audit voter registration roles continually to remove Cynthia Tucker’s most favored voter constituency: the resurrected dead, the felons and all non-citizens.
Now Democrats, Cry me a River!
By getalife
September 23, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this
Once again, RW ignores the enormous debt and huge money grab stolen by his party.
Intellectually dishonest indeed.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this
The following link is to a rough transcript of the Clinton interview. Don’t you just love this decisive answer?
We probably nearly got Bin Laden.
By bon scott
September 23, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
RTC, no river-making crying jags here. Voter-photo ID supporters have promised to make getting that ID a snap.
If kinks can be worked out for, say, the elderly poor who may not have a birth certificate to prove citizenship handy, then go for it.
No ID, no ballot. For everyone.
Then we can tackle those very problematic Diebold voting machines. I want a tamper-proof paper trail at all levels on election day.
By bon scott
September 23, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this
I’ve read some transcripts and summaries of the Clinton interview on Fox that makes it look like Bill handed Chris Wallace his head on a platter.
We can all decide for ourselves tomorrow.
“They had eight months to try, they did not try. I tried.”
By getalife
September 23, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this
Clinton ruled in that interview.
Good for him, telling the truth.
Now check this whopper of a lie from w:
“I want to be absolutely clear with our people, and the world: The United States does not torture. It’s against our laws, and it’s against our values. I have not authorized it — and I will not authorize it.”
BS, he had to come up with a bill to make the torture legal they have already done.
Torture is now an American value. Nice job wingnuts.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this
Looks like we all agree on tightening the ballot box, so I guess Bookman and his plagiarist can put their straw-man away.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this
Clinton was doing an interview, he is supposed to answer questions not try to browbeat a reporter that did nothing to spark it. You libs have a very strange idea of journalism and personal conduct.
By bon scott
September 23, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
RW, Chris Wallace wouldn’t be the first reporter to have tried (and failed) to browbeat a guest during an interview. That’s if he did. We don’t know.
Why don’t you withhold judgement until you actually see it?
I am.
Do you really think Bookman was the first person to note the absentee ballot loophole?
You’re less well read than I thought.
By getalife
September 23, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this
Take it like a man RW.
He did answer the question.
He tried, w did not.
Get over it.
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
September 23, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this
You tell me the difference:
Howard Dean’s Scream
Versus:
Bill Clinton Freaks Out
Debate it on the merits of the argument all you want, getalife, that dude is mental, same as Howieeeeeeeeeeeaaaarrrrryyyyygggghhhhhhhhaaaaa.
The RIGHT WINGERS! eeewwwwww!
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
Look what Clinton was really up to that last year in the White House.
Too bad Chris didn’t ask him why he was using the trappings of the White House to raise cash for Hillary. Nice touch screwing over the donor and stealing his investor for yourself Bill. Can’t be bothered with Al Qaeda when there’s money to scrounge for.
By getalife
September 23, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
You do know mental.
What are the voices in your head screaming today or do you drown them out with liquor?
I read the whole transcript and it reads like a major smackdown on Wallace and right wingers.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
bonnie,
I’m not passing judgment on the interview. That would be you and getalife cheerleading for him as a conquering hero up ^ ^ ^ there. I posted the transcript up there too. It’s pretty obvious that Clinton just wanted to tear into Chris instead of answering. Chris even asked him if he wanted to drop it and talk about his fund raising and Clinton said no. This was after that mental case said he was upset that Wallace didn’t want to talk about his fund raising.
You guys sure are selective about what you want to pass judgment on before it airs or after.
By Barbara
September 23, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
bon scott, I appreciate your attempt to explain Buy Danish’s motives, but I think you are wrong there. Go back and read his/her post. The person was saying they agreed with me even though I was a liberal. That was not at all an attempt to slam me; it was more of an attempt to show unity. (see Sept 22, at 5:59 from Buy Danish). And understand that even though I consider myself a hard-core conservative, I did not take the least bit of offense at being called a liberal. In fact, I thought it was hillarious. Note that “Liberal” also called me a liberal and offered me a Voltswagon!
In my opinion, most of the hate-spew on this blog seems to be over the war and the opinion of the President. And since most liberals are against both, and most conservatives are for both, it seems to me that the hateful comments on this blog come from liberals and are directed at the conservatives, specifically over the issues of the war and the President. But then people take it further and make it personal. There have been quite a few vile sexual references. These have always, and I mean always been directed at the conservatives on this blog, so again, I have to assume they are coming from the liberals.
I personally enjoy hearing from the liberals that offer genuine opinions. Their opinions give me pause. Take, for example, some of my favorite libs; Southern Democrat, Liberal, James, JK, Susan, deegee (miss you deegee; don’t know why you quit blogging) the newly joined Dana. These folks manage to get their points across without sexual references and extreme name calling. My hope is that we can get back to that sort of blog.
Since Jim deleted many of the posts, you cannot go back and see them, but the ones that were deleted, and the reason he implemented the delay, was because one person made numerous, extremely crude sexual references, mostly directed at me. It wasn’t the first time someone “clogged the blog” with that type of BS, but it was definately one of the crudest, and I think that was the straw that broke the Jim-camel’s back, and the very next day we had the delay. While I don’t read this blog constantly, and I don’t even read it every day (quite frankly some of the topics aren’t that interesting to me), when I do read it I have never seen Jim censor comments except those that were sexually crude. We’ve even asked him to censor rednecks several times and he won’t do it. Rednecks doesn’t make sexually crude comments, but he certainly makes racist/cultural/personal attacks. The only comments I’m aware of that Jim has deleted are sexually crude ones.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, but I feel this blog is starting to come “unglued” and I really hope those of us that enjoy it will band together and try to get this thing turned around before someone decides to pull the plug here to. I mean, at the end of the day, this is for our enjoyment. Certainly no one in high leadership of the Democratic, Republican, Constition, Libertarian, or Independent parties is hanging on this blog waiting for pearls of wisdom from any of us. It’s just supposed to be good clean fun. Let’s keep it clean fun.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I realize there’s not much for you to be proud of what with Clinton doing nothing but Monica while Americans were being killed and plots were being hatched to kill more, so if it makes you happy that Clinton can beat up a reporter fine. Be proud getalife, Bill may have whipped America’s real enemy, Chris Wallace.
By getalife
September 23, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this
RW,
Just call em, like I read them.
Here, read this
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I’m sure that you would have read that PDB and immediately shut down all US air traffic for eternity. You would also have to shut down all federal buildings in New York State. BTW, that would not have included the World Trade Center. Then you would have invaded Afghanistan all based on a mostly historical document.
That August 6th PDB had absolutely zero actionable information. Try again.
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
September 23, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this
People accuse me all the time of being a bushbot and White House cheerleader and there may be some truth in what they say. After all, Bush killed Bin Laden which is good for America so I’m fully behind my president.
And I’m also not a weak kneed spineless cut and run pinko, abandoning my leader and the United States at the first sign of trouble.
However, I must say, if Bush ever flips out in front of the world like Clinton did, I’ll drop his a-ss like a hot potato.
I’d be like, “Bush who?”
By Markus
September 23, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this
Gotta love some of today’s AJC headlines:
“Man who shouted ‘Tequila!’ in song dies.”
“Diddy visits Douglas.”
“Indigos play parking lot in Little 5 Points.”
Someone nobody ever heard of dies, a rapper clown who always seems to be involved with violence wherever he goes visits, and a couple of flaming liberal butch lesbians play in a parking lot for free in protest to big stores.
Yep, it’s continued affirmation as to why the AJC is a third-rate news source… at best. If I wanted to read what the New York Slimes printed daily as news but was really OpEd material, I’d go online.
By bon scott
September 23, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
Barbara, thanks for your clarification and comments. My experience in the “other” blog was that certain people who claim to be conservatives set the bar for the flagrant use of sexual epithets. But that’s just me.
I’m not your typical liberal (as if such a thing existed) in that I usually agree with about half of what Jim Wooten says. It is accurate to say that I don’t like President Bush and think the war in Iraq is a bloody sandpit that diverts attention and resources from the real terrorists.
And as far as hate is concerned, I think some of the posts here today reflect a hatred of Clinton that’s downright rabid. It’s far more radioactive than any lack of respect I might harbor for Bush, and all the more remarkable in that Clinton hasn’t been President for nearly 6 years.
RW, so the proper reation to a PDB that warned of an imminent attack by bin Laden on the US was for President Bush to do absolutely nothing?? Fascinating.
By Markus
September 23, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this
Video of Billyboy Clinton doing his finger-banging.. err I mean finger pointing as usual when asked about Osama. Hey BILL old pal, since you lied to us with that finger about sex with a pig intern (and UNDER OATH about), what would keep you from lying about something much, MUCH more sinister?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwJabtvSUQ
Read up on Old Bill’s escapades here on what he did to catch Osama.
By Who Cares If I'm Gay?
September 23, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this
It’s not who I love that matters - it’s who I hate -
I HATE MIKE LUCKOVICH AND THE AJC.
(By the way, I love Markus)
By Markus
September 23, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
A liberal democrat’s wet dream: a gay president. Keep this in mind fellow conservatives, especially when filthy hypocritical liberals here attempt to use gay epithets to put you down yet call you a hate bigot if you say you are against gay marriage.
I case you stupid jackass liberals haven’t figured it out yet, THIS is but one example of why islamofascists hate us and the West. Go ahead and continue to not want to do anything about the bastards, you candyasses; go ahead and continue to say we’re just “hyperventilating” and “scared” of the islamofascists you limpwrists on the left. They are MUCH more against “liberal” policies than traditional conservative ones. Fools.
By Barbara
September 23, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this
bon scott, I’m sure you’re right. On a “liberal” blog, there probably have been ugly barbs directed at libs by conservatives. Neither side is completely innocent. And we do resort to some name-calling over here too. Most of it is in good fun, however.
I must admit, I’m probably Clinton’s number one “anti-fan”. I can’t stand the guy. I didn’t have nearly the same problem with Jimmy Carter, didn’t have that much of a problem with Al Gore (beside the fact that I don’t agree with them on anything), but Clinton crossed a very personal line with me and that was his sexual misconduct and subsequent lies to cover it up. I have absolutely no respect for him after that. But those are things that are very important to me personally, and I know it’s different for each person.
Anyway, perhaps you’ll spend some time over here now if the ML blog is really shut down. We do get testy sometimes, but mostly it’s pretty good entertainment (with a few exceptions). Some are generally more serious than others, and there are some who just come by to drop the “comedy-bombs”, but even those are entertaining to me.
Well, welcome aboard. Hopefully you’ll enjoy some of the conversations.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this
finchie,
The PDB didn’t warn of any specific imminent threat anymore than when President Bush says “They are coming again” does, but if nobody was doing anything how did they come up with what was in the brief to begin with?
We have video of Bin Laden roaming around as an easy target and Clinton refused to pull the trigger. What’s your point?
By Markus
September 23, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
Here’s the link to the wonderful world of liberalism and a gay presidential “question.” Why is everything in a bedwetting liberal’s life always a “question?”
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/germany-ready-for-a-gay-leader-many-say-yes/2006/09/22/1158431902404.html?from=rss
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
Here’s a breakdown that I’ve posted next door a few times about that PDB. A fair reading of it would show that it is, in fact, mostly historical and a large part of it was wrong with respect to what happened.
You can even see a comment from a poster named “Seneca” that shows he doesn’t think it’s that big a deal as long as Clinton gets a pass. Seneca is posting here today as “bon scott” and claiming this showed an imminent threat.
As Andy would say, always frisk the liberal first to save time.
By Markus
September 23, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
Now this is MY kind of town.
Watch the limpwristed left in that area jump up and down like scared little girlie men. Candyasses on the far left like GITMOLIFE (et. al. aliases) say we shouldn’t be able to own guns, yet have the wet panties to call US fascists.
By President Boy George
September 23, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this
Here’s Andi’s pres holding hands with a Saudi prince in a dress - do you really want to hurt me?
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
September 23, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
Wasn’t it just a week or so ago that Queen Pinko (Cynthia Tucker for you newbies) was proclaiming a Taliban victory in Afghanistan?:
In the war on terror, few battles are as clear and decisive as the one fought these last few weeks in southern Afghanistan. Six thousand Canadian, British, American and other NATO troops trounced resurgent Taliban fighters who dared to fight in the open. “Operation Medusa” dislodged insurgents from trenches and tunnels near Kandahar, killing a thousand or more.
So much for that kook theory.
By Barbara
September 23, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this
Markus, I love it. When Kennesaw implemented a law that every homeowner must own a gun, Playboy Magazine had an article called “GunTown USA”. I read the article at the time; don’t remember much of it this many years later though.
BTW, I wanted to respond to your apology about the movie a few weeks ago. You never have to apologize for me because you recommended a movie you enjoyed. I just didn’t enjoy it like you did. Doesn’t mean you should apologize. I like your style and I’d probably enjoy the next one you recommend, so keep the recommendations coming buddy!
By getalife
September 23, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this
Why are you lying again macaca?
I own an arsenal of guns, just waiting for them to try to take me to Gitmo.
“Say hello to my little friend”.
By Markus
September 23, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this
For the economically and uneducated ignorant amongst us, (that would be most liberals of course), here’s course 101 as to why oil prices are going down, the fact that oil ALWAYS goes down after summer notwistanding… and no hurricanes, Americans being shellshocked and conserving more, China not using as much as expected, OPEC production the highest in nearly 30 years, all of which lead to higher than expected inventories, oil being traded on a GLOBAL market, etc. etc. etc.
I learned about the laws of supply and demand in 6th grade. But of course, that was before liberal socialist bedwetting indoctrination took over government schools and developed good little liberal Stalinists.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8KA46800.htm
By Markie Markus's Panties
September 23, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
We’re all in a knot today - Andi being here and all the gay talk has made it hot hot hot around here… Markie Markus can barely sit still!
We’re smokin’!
By Markus
September 23, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
Ah yes, GITMOLIFE the hotshot gun owner… straight descendant of a manly man that served proudly right alongside Patton as his “communication” chief. Now I see why Hollywood is made up mostly of liberals… they live in a made-up world.
By Markus
September 23, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this
Ok that’s cool Babs… I now know what to be on the lookout for with regards to any cool flicks. Unfortunately, most political flix tend to lean left. From Hollywood, that’s natural obviously.
Anyway, the Kennesaw law had all the limpwrists peeing in their pretty pink panties, and probably that kind of media attention told the thugs to pick easier targets, as they always do, just like the wild animals they are closer to than we are.
“The proposed ordinance is modeled after a similar plan that went into place in 1982 in Kennesaw, Ga. In that instance there was a dramatic decrease in criminal activity.”
Listen to ‘em cry like the babies they are.
By bon scott
September 23, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this
RW, how about the memo Richard Clarke gave the White House (Nat’l Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice) on 1/25/01, just days after Bush took office?
Presidential Policy Initiative/Review —- The Al Qida (sic) network
President Bush was given everything the Clinton administration knew about al Qaeda as soon as he took office.
And he did….. nothing.
Barbara, I don’t hold Clinton’s infidelity with the contempt that you do. I know you’re not alone, but I think being obsessed with it isn’t healthy. At any rate, since Clinton today has no portfolio, I don’t think it matters. That’s just MHO, of course.
Thanks for your cordial welcome to this place.
By getalife
September 23, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
Macaca,
I believe in my rights.
The right to bear arms is my favorite.
Yes, I am proud of my Dad’s service under Patton.
Great war stories I will keep to myself and my family.
By Markus
September 23, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
Food for thought: the first four months of the new Bush administration were WASTED on getting cabinet appointments approved because the DEMOCRATS were p!ssed off about losing the election and decided that was their best pay-back policy… being jackass stalwarts led by Tom Dasshole, which, in a sweet bit of Republilcan irony revenge-revenge, got his @ss thrown out of office.
By Markus
September 23, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this
Gitmolife-
The old adage that you liberals live by, “say a lie loud enough and often enough and eventually we’ll all believe it to be true,” couldn’t ring more true than within you.
By RW-(the original)
September 23, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this
finchie,
I think we agree that BOTH administrations could have done more. We’ve agreed on that part through all your maniacal name changes. The fact remains that there was nothing actionable in those memos and Richard Clark doesn’t know what was being done because they were reassigning him. I could also point you to memos showing Richard Clark saying that the real threat we faced wasn’t a physical attack it was a cyber attack. Even if we had a meeting and did the things in that memo you just linked nothing he says in it would have done a thing about 9/11.
Through the Patriot Act we have tools now that we didn’t have then. The fact is we know better now and President Bush wants to move forward to address the threat and prevent as many attacks as possible. For reasons I can’t fathom, the left wants to go back to where we were even though they claim they would have supported the changes in law it would have taken. Some of them even claim they would have supported a preemptive attack on Afghanistan. Your side cannot be trusted with national security in any way, shape, manner, or form.
Barbara,
Some friendly advice, tread carefully with this bon scott character and whatever you do make sure he never gets any personal information about you. He’ll change his name quite often and we’ll point it out every time he does.
By Luckovich Censors Conservatives
September 23, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this
Look at Fox “News” reporting this like it happened today:
CAIRO, Egypt — An Al Qaeda-linked group posted a Web video Saturday purporting to show the bodies of two American soldiers being dragged behind a truck, then set on fire in apparent retaliation for the alleged rape-slaying of a young Iraqi woman by U.S. troops from the same unit.
A rape by a US soldier and two troops killed, it’s like a twofer against America, ain’t it Fox?
This is cheap and tawdry, like somehting finch or Luckovich would do.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
September 23, 2006 11:08 PM | Link to this
Thank you, Jim, for allowing me to have this evening post.
My sermon to the rednecks tonight is titled:
Gay? Crazy? Crippled? or Coward?
Verily, I saith unto you that the Bush lover between the ages of 18 and 42 should not be in the United States, but in Iraq, serving his pResident and his dark vision for America’s future and his country, inasmuch as he/she supports the administration - UNLESS he is gay - and so gay that he cannot keep his predilections private - or crazy, that is so mentally ill that he is rendered as being a danger to his fellow soldiers - or crippled, so weak and/or deformed that his weakling status is a danger to his fellow soldiers - or, a coward, a spineless weasel of a human being incapable of even defending himself, let alone his country.
Your Lord God Lady Bush does not look favorably on your intransigence, you cowardly gay crippled crazy slobs. Get your lazy yellow-striped backsides to the Army Recruiting Office near you NOW.
You know if I’m talking to you.
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
September 24, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this
I hope a little bit of intelligent, thoughtful commentary doesn’t upset the normal posters in here^^11:08:
If you need anymore proof that liberals want the rest of the world to be sex obsessed failures like they are, read the Sunday vent:
I decided as a teenager to wait until I was married to have sex. I got married three months ago, had incredible sex for two weeks. Now, nothing. The realization that I completely wasted my bachelor years is depressing.
Parents: The easiest way to keep these perverts and their filth away from your children is to cancel your AJC subscription and teach your kids to get their news from the right wingers.
We do not dwell on perversion.
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I told you they were liberals:
You have dedicated yourself to reviving the spirit of the Islamic Revolution. When the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini took power, he reduced the marriageable age for girls from 18, as it had been under the shah, to 9. It was later raised to 13.
Hey, maybe the venter^^ is Iran’s president?
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It may be news to the Council of Foreign Relations types and the Dems, but the U.N. demonstrated this last week that it is utterly incapable of reform. Indeed, any reforms would be more likely to upgrade and enhance the cliques of thugs and despots than of the few states willing to stand up to them. The most sensible proposal this week came from Chavez, who demanded the U.N. relocate to Venezuela. You go, girl! Dershowitz would be better off trying to get America expelled from the U.N., and encouraging it to join a new group of nations serious about defending freedom in the world: It would be a very small club.-ChicagoSunTimes
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Opening the Muslim Holy month by bombing Muslim women and children in a show to impress the American left wing media:
Sunni terrorists opened the Muslim holy month of Ramadan yesterday with a bomb attack in a Shi’ite neighborhood that killed at least 37 women and children who were purchasing kerosene to cook celebratory evening meals to break each daylong fast.-WashingtonTimes
Can no one else see the sickness, the depravity in this act, a disease equally shared by the media cowards and the Islamic Fascists?
Where’s the outrage?
Is it reserved for Bush and America, the easy targets?
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Mahmoud Abbas’ state-run television in recent weeks has shown a music program in which the audience is exhorted to become “martyrs” with the ultimate reward — beautiful maidens. Old stuff, you say. But it’s not old stuff in the Arab Middle East. It’s stuff glorifying war, rockets and suicide bombing terror.-WashingtonTimes
I thought Bush was driving these people to commit acts of terrorism?
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I have noted for years the No. 1 reason given for going to war in Iraq was Saddam Hussein’s penchant for committing human-rights violations against his own people. Aside from the much ignored genocide of the Iraqi Kurds, Saddam’s regime routinely subjected the Iraqi people to arbitrary arrest and imprisonment, summary execution and torture by beating and burning, electric shock, starvation, mutilation and rape. Wives were raped and abused in front of their husbands and children were injured and killed in the presence of their parents. These are facts and there is ample film and firsthand testimony to prove it….. Mr. O’Reilly asked Mrs. Huffington whether saving all these people was worth it. Mrs. Huffington’s response was: “So what?” She went on to say our government’s job is to protect our nation, our borders and our people — the oppressed people of the world be damned. -WashingtonTimes
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If you had told me 20 years ago that Columbia would play host to a religious fanatic who believed in stoning adulteresses and homosexuals to death, who shut down newspapers and harassed journalists, who funded terror organizations around the globe, and who declared the Holocaust never happened but that he might just do it right this time, I would have told you he would be in for a tough session. But today, with universities in America so cordial toward anyone who hates America (e.g. Princeton’s Cornell West took time out of his busy lecture schedule to appear with Hugo Chavez in Harlem last week.)-WashingtonTimes
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Here’s a poll for the poll worshippers:
Giuliani beats Clinton 56-37-RealClearPolitics
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September 24, 2006 — THE leftist and liberal throng who cheered Ven ezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez at a Harlem church Thursday, a day after he called President Bush “the devil,” are just the latest sign of a real problem for the Democratic Party and the nation: Bush-hate is now the opiate of the party’s base.-NewYorkPost
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Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck!
By Passin through
September 24, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
New voting rights act 1. Have to be worth over 10 million 2. Have to own property worth 2 million, rental properties count 3. Can not be priror military. 4. Have to be right of the John Birch Society. 5. God must talk to you on an individual basis at least once a week telling you how great you are.
By RG
September 24, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
For the rational people out there who read these blogs (not the ones like Sheila on 9/22 at 8:31 AM - Would you idiots give me a break. Don’t get mad because Chavez told the truth.) To Peter (9/22 10:02 AM “He (Chavez) must make Venezuelans proud.) Please remember, the majority of Venezuelan people despise Hugo Chavez. He was NOT democratically elected. He has destroyed so many lives just like Castro did 40 years ago. It’s only natural that we think Venezuelans are all Chavez supporters, but they most definitely are not! Let’s not condemn the entire country. I know…I am married to someone from Venezuela who is now an American citizen.