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No time for Americans to be impatient

In the days leading up to Monday’s milestone anniversary of the attacks that took America into the war on terrorism, President Bush spoke to the nation with sparkling clarity on the nature of the threat and the enemy we are fighting.

In another era, it might have been enough. Now, though, the nation has grown so polarized that it’s not certain any evidence will be sufficient to convince the determined left that dominates the national Democratic Party. For every American, for every voter especially, it boils down to a single question: Who do you trust to keep America safe?

On Wednesday, Bush introduced the country to 14 terrorists, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and “the men our intelligence officials believe orchestrated the deaths of nearly 3,000 Americans on Sept. 11th, 2001,” along with “those believed to be responsible for the attack on the USS Cole and an operative believed to be involved in the bombings of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.”

He presented them as an anniversary payment to “the families of those murdered that day [who] have waited patiently for justice.” And he presented them, too, to the Congress that will decide the rules for the military commissions charged with imposing justice.

Asking Congress to do anything that offers opportunity for political posturing two months before an election is ordinarily a guarantee that nothing of substance will come from it. But in this instance, Bush framed the issue brilliantly.

Congress knows, and the American people are reminded, that in authorizing military commissions for terrorists, as the U.S. Supreme Court directed, the construct of the tribunals may well determine whether the outcome is justice or eternal legal wrangling. With the 14, Congress and the nation can see that the issues are not mere legal abstractions involving proceedings for those who are caught up in a sweep of the battlefield.

Two Bush speeches of the past week are worth reading. One is his White House remarks of last Wednesday. The other was his address here on Thursday to the Georgia Public Policy Foundation. Both are available at www.whitehouse.gov/news.

In each, he attempted to address questions raised by the war’s opponents, including the mission in Iraq. “The fighting has been difficult and it has been bloody, and some say that Iraq is a diversion from the war on terror. The terrorists disagree … Al-Qaida leaders have declared that Baghdad will be the capital of the new caliphate that they wish to establish across the broader Middle East … The terrorists know that the outcome of the war on terror will depend on the outcome in Iraq — and so to protect our own citizens, the free world must succeed in Iraq.”

The war on terror, he said, “is more than a military conflict. It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century. And we’re only in the opening stages.”

That is the truth. The question, though, has always been whether Americans have the patience for wars that, five years after Sept. 11, are still in the opening stages. The temptation is to think not.

That would, of course, be a disaster for the nation. However premature abandonment of Iraq is presented — as redeployment, early withdrawal or repositioning — the defeat will be starkly evident to the entire world. This nation, then, begins a long journey into appeasement as national security policy.

One of the great national blunders of the past 30 years was to abandon the draft. It had its problems, of course, with fairness and with military usefulness. But it forced young men to come to terms with their own values and to become a part of something more important than the individual. Many of them hated the military. But in an important and necessary way, it connected them to the country.

Now this war is treated as a Super Bowl. Every commentator is an armchair general advising the secretary of defense and the president on the appropriate strategy for the war, all the while insisting that the “mission” be defined so that we know whether we are halfway there, a third or some other checklist number. And we position ourselves, too, as arbitrators, almost impartial, determining which threat is legitimate and which isn’t.

The danger here is that America will quit too early because an impatient populace demands instant results. There’s no checklist for Iraq. When the young democracy can survive on its own, it’s time to leave. Not before.

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By Mid-South Philosopher

September 9, 2006 08:02 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

The President has done a good job over the past couple of weeks explaining the war against Islamist fanaticism and reminding us of what is at stake. It is too bad he has not “communicated” this well over the past five years!

Despite the assertion of the liberals, I have never believed that the war, whether in Afghanistan or Iraq, was about oil. Neither have I bought the “idiocy” that some leftist fanatics have spewed that “Georgie” was trying to exact some revenge against Saddam Hussein for the latter’s engagement with and threats against “Bush 41.”

To his credit, the President has said all along what the purpose of the military efforts of the United States is. He has reiterated that purpose in his speeches over the past several days. He believes the way to defeat Islamist fanaticism is to establish “democratic” governments in the region. These governments, once secure in themselves, will rise to the task of destroying Islamist fanaticism and, more important, will provide the environment and opportunities that will cause the populace to be drawn away from supporting the terrorists and the “culture of death.”

Despite the denials of the conservative right, this is “nation building.” It is an excellent strategy, in theory, but, alas, someone has not told the President that the Iraqi people have never had the opportunity to live “democratically.” Consequently, a lot of education, training, growing, and, one suspects, dying is going to have to be done prior to their achieving a level of sophistication in self-government.

The trouble all along has been the advisors the President has surrounded himself with. At best he has had “C” grade bureaucrats in a number of key positions…not the least of which has been in the office of Secretary of Defence.

More than anything else, I fault the President for not finding a “wise warrior” to direct our military in this difficult and dangerous time. For the greatest and wealthiest nation on the face of the earth to send our troops into harm’s way, which we did initially, without the very finest equipment and munitions is a “crime” for which, in my judgment, Secretary Rumsfeld should be tried. For us to try to occupy a nation the size of Iraq with 130,000 troops, when at least twice that number is needed, is unconscionable. One cannot guarantee that with more troops there might not have been as many American deaths, but perhaps there also would have been more Iraqi insurgent deaths!

Do I believe the President’s speeches in this “drive to the mid-term elections” will make a difference?

It is hard to say. The vast number of Americans is polarized pro or con toward Bush. The “undecided” element of the population is very, very small. Sad to say, many “undecided” are really “unconcerned.”

Success in the fall elections is going to determine on which group gets their people to the polls. Generally, the turn-out in mid-term elections is smaller than in presidential contests, but I suspect this year we may see a larger number of folks appearing to cast their ballot as a referendum vote on the conduct of the war and, perhaps, as a statement on the President’s overall performance.

We shall see.

I am off for the day. Have a great weekend, Jim and all my fellow bloggers.

By Pretty in Prius

September 9, 2006 08:15 AM | Link to this

Islamist is a noun not an adverb.

By Pretty in Prius

September 9, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this

“He’s a bad man. He tried to kill my dad.”

By Pretty in Prius

September 9, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

Sharapova plays in the US Open finals tonite at 8pm.

Must see tv.

By unhappy republican

September 9, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

It’s frustrating to see everyone who disagrees with the war as a liberal. I’ve voted for Bush twice, but am appalled by the way things have gone over the last 3 years or so. The polls indicated that almost everyone who isn’t a hardcore conservative agrees with me. This is one of the things driving people away from the conservative movement - the inability to accept any criticism without calling someone a liberal.

By Pretty in Prius

September 9, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

Cant get this one song out of my head this morning: the unplugged version of the “Meow Mix” song.

Hate it when that happens. Nothing you can do but wait it out.

Pat Robertson is ranting about the cartoon icons who adorn the “scrubbing bubbles” spray can of bathroom cleanser. He seems to think one of them is gay. He just said, “Either you agree that one of the scrubbing bubbles is gay, or the terrorists win”.

Hey! That makes as much sense as using rocket tubes to enrich uranium - or nation building in the middle of a 14 centuries-old civil war. (but that’s just my godless liberalism talkin’)

Okay, if you really insist on knowing what the insurance companies are predicting for Iraq: Based on a compilation of dozens of independent think tanks: We stay put and within about a few years, a bubble country, (a green zone of democracy and freedom), will emerge inside of the civil war chaos. The reconstruction will be limited to this bubble. Consider it the Vatican of democracy.

We will draft, mostly new citizen immigrants, the necessay million man army it will take to protect that bubble of democracy.

Two Iraqs will exist. One in the bubble, one outside. Those outside the bubble will live in pure hell. The lucky Kurds, however, will flourish, as they have for the past 15 years thanks to our no fly zone and the fact that we’ve armed them to the teeth. They have entrenched themselves athwart, (thanx Newt), the northern gas/oil fields. (make that 3 iraqs).

This will go on indefinitely until an Iraqi leader emerges uniting the tribes: Kahn! Then Kirk and his Klingon Intern will be disgraced in a sex scandal involving a little known sex act with cigars set on “stun”, made famous in the 20th century on planet earth by a long forgotten US prez and his aide, (a real wide beam).

Hey, that makes as much sense as Powell did at the UN in early 2003. Google that speech for the comedy bit of the century.

The Shia will make a play for the southern oil, and with Iranian hardware, secure that region. Make that 4 iraqs.

If we cut and run, however, the Iraqis will fight it out, like they’re supposed to, like every country must, and then a real Iraq of the fittest will emerge: the last cleric standing, if you will.

The Last Cleric Standing!!

“Good evening, ladies, gentlemen, and germs! I just flew in from Kabul, and boy, are my wive’s arms tired. My arms are tired too, not from flying, but from beating my wives during the flight.

“You know, I dont think that bio warfare is such a good idea no more. Last night my wife contracted the inhalation form of PMS.

“No really, I miss peace. I used to travel…even to New York. Why, only a short time ago I visited Broadway. You know something, I’m still trying to decypher all the coded messages in the “Vagina Monologues”. If we could crack that code….then we terrorists really WOULD win!!! But I kid the jihad.

Now look, I know alot of you suiciding fools are getting creative, and that’s good, but who was the lunatic who put the anthrax in my wife’s douche bags? She thinks it was me! I had to beat her over and over. Why wont she believe that I didn’t do it?

Well, that’s my time, and besides, I hear the B-52s overhead….and they aint singing, “love shack”, Baby!!

By getalife

September 9, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

Pathetic bullsh-it.

Ridiculous crap.

By Van

September 9, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

The President never said it would be a quick war, he never said it would be easy and he has let us know what to expect. But, alas when he isn’t saying what you want - you don’t listen. This is the fault of the loony lefties.

In my opinion, anyone that is making it hard on the terrorist and not harder on America, has my vote. That is what it is coming down to in the upcoming election. Will the candidate make it harder on the terrorists or will they make it harder on us.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

Well Van,

I guess you would vote for Saddam

There is no connection for Iraq and 9/11.

By Jerry

September 9, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Iraq is a war we should have never started. It was based upon a lie. The war in Afganistan was justified. An incursion in Pakistan would have been justified. of course all of this is hindsight, based upon what the public is allowed to know.

My question is, why all the fuss about Iran? Our intelligence was flawed on Iraq, who’s to say the same isn’t rue about Iran?

It seems to me the only thing to be accomplished would be to further create instability in the oil markets. Iraq certaintly accomplished a large boost in oil prices. Was this by design? I question the wisdom/motives of our current path.

By Alan Bearden

September 9, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

Now why are we in Irag? from Robert Elisberg:

Okay, so this is the first war in American history where you need a theater program to explain it. Let’s see if we can get it straight:

We went to war to fight the Taliban who harbored the 9/11 al Qaeda terrorists.

But then we shifted the war to Iraq, because they had WMD’s which posed an imminent threat to the United States.

But no WMD’s were found, so it turns out we actually went to war to overthrow Saddham Hussein and bring freedom to Iraq, thereby Accomplishing the Mission.

But the Mission wasn’t actually Accomplished, so the reason we were in Iraq was to put down insurgents from reclaiming the country.

But the actual, real reason we’re fighting Iraqi insurgents is to make the country the shining Road Map to Peace in the Middle East.

But really, it’s not Iraqi insurgents who were our enemy, because the whole reason we were at war was to rid Iraq of Al Qaeda terrorists, even though none had been there under Saddham Hussein before we destabilized the country.

But now it turns out we aren’t even fighting terrorists at all, but rather Islamic Fascists.

But then, the President and Defense Secretary tell us we’re instead fighting actual Fascists. And Nazis. Real live Nazis. Come to life again, risen from Hell after 60 years.

But no, it’s worse, because according to the Secretary of State, we’re really fighting the Deep South in the Civil War. The Deep South! The President’s biggest ally. The only person this won’t shock is Senator George Allen, who still fights for the Confederacy - although he was born in Los Angeles.

Cliff’s Notes on steroids wouldn’t help explain this mess. Even a summary is mind-numbing:

We don’t actually know the reason we got into Iraq, rather than Afghanistan. It keeps changing.

We don’t know what our goal is in Iraq. It keeps changing.

We don’t know who it is we’re actually fighting in Iraq. It keeps changing.

We don’t even know for sure that it’s Iraq where we are fighting, since it may be Nazi Germany, or Franco-Fascist Spain. Or maybe even the Confederacy.

And we don’t have the slightest strategy how to get out. That never changes.

Then again, we don’t even know how we’d know we won, if we ever won. Who would surrender to us? How can you even have a leader of The Enemy, when you keep changing who The Enemy is?!

The one thing we do know, because we hear it almost every day now in desperation from the White House, is that “History shows us…” something or other.

In truth, the only thing history has shown us from Iraq is that these people who are trying to teach us history don’t understand history. They didn’t grasp history that there was been religious fighting in Iraq between the Sunnis and Shiites for 1,000 years. They didn’t grasp history that when you fight a war, you send in the troops that are needed. They didn’t grasp history that when your war plan isn’t working, you learn from history and change the course.

The thing is, when you’re fighting a war, history shows us you should know precisely who you’re fighting and why. Crystal-clear, slam-dunk know. You have to know. Otherwise, how could anyone write great war songs and inspire the populace?

I mean, it’s really basic. Just go through history and take a look.

Revolutionary War. We were fighting the British. To gain independence.

Civil War. We were fighting the Confederacy. To end slavery and save the Union.

World War I. We were fighting Germany. To keep them from taking over the world.

World War II. We were fighting Germany, Italy and Japan. To keep them from taking over the world.

Korean War. We were fighting North Korea. To protect the boundary between North and South Korea.

For goodness sake, we even knew who we were fighting in Vietnam! The North Vietnamese. And the reason was…well, okay, not everyone exactly knew why, but at least there was One Official Reason: to stop Communism from spreading throughout Southeast Asia and ultimately to Kansas.

And then there’s the Iraq War.

We’refightingSaddhamHusseininsurgentsterroristsIslamicFascistsFascistsNaziswhowereresponsibleforattacking Americabutnotreally. TofindWMD’sthatposeaniminentthreattoAmericabringfreedomandputdowntheinsurgentsand getalltheterroristsoutofIraqsothatthe countrywillbetheroadmaptopeaceintheMiddleEast.

Here’s something else history teaches us -

When you’re fighting a war, and you can’t explain so clearly that the youngest schoolchild can understand who you’re fighting and why you’re fighting it…

…then you don’t have an actual reason. And you’re making it up as you go along. And taking the country along for the ride.

By Van

September 9, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Being old enough to vote, not I wouldn’t. When you get old enough to vote, I suggest reading up on the great leaders of America, it might help you grow up. Being a man is better than a simpering little boy.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

Ban,

Seeing that I am retired, I am old enough to vote. Cheerleading the worst President in history and dividing our country to fall, I will never support. People that do are ignorant to the facts.

Here, read this speech by this Republican and you may not be so ignorant to the facts,

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11

By time for the truth

September 9, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Jerry is an ignorant moron

My question is, why all the fuss about Iran?

they are by far the worst supporters/paymasters of terror in the world, their Hitler like threats against Israel with their cynical lies about their pursuit of nuclear weapons which even the corrupt worthless UN acknowledges, their systematic stirring/funding of sectarian violence in Iraq, their huge military buildup while their people starve/have no jobs, their threats against the rest of the world - including disruption to oil supplies …. there are numerous other reasons to “make a fuss”

liberal morons like you Jerry should have the vote taken off them until you prove you can actually think and analzye!!

your other mindless moronic empty assertions about oil and Iraq are pathetic but mildly entertaining - showing why ignorant liberals are a clear and present danger to the rest of us!!

Van

maggot brain cannot think, its ALMOST sad to see it struggling everyday on here to make any kind of original reasoned point. it just spews out endless liberal and far leftist links and lame abuse that has as much bite as being savaged by a dead sheep!!

By @@

September 9, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

Jim:

Bush is doing a much better job getting his message across. I believe he has a new speech writer, or at least that’s what I read over a month ago. He needs to “read” them and not adlib their content. Liberals will pounce on every misstep because their self interest is centered on defeating Bush, not the threat of terrorism.

It’s become painfully obvious that the liberals enjoy a life of complacency. Rarely have they moved beyond the status quo and the status quo cannot defeat this imbedded enemy. This war was declared long before Bush, and it was not one of our choosing. We are responding to an enemy who has been waging attacks throughout the world for years preceding the war in Iraq. For those liberals who would argue that Islamofacism did not exist in Iraq, I would ask…where exactly would they have approved a pre-emptive strike against this threat to “the free world?” There are countries who have accomodated them, and still, they attack their complacent hosts.

As much as I hate to admit it, reinstating the draft will be necessary from this day forward for our country. We now exist in a tumultuous power hungry world where competition for military supremacy rules the day.

God help us all if the “Do-Nothing Democrats” have an opportunity to protect this nation from an enemy they view as an illusion our actions have created.

By Pretty in Prius

September 9, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

zzzzz

By getalife

September 9, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

@@,

You need to do more reading.

“reinstating the draft” will never get the votes. It got two yes votes last time. Of course, Mr. Murtha was one.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

This is what we get for invading Iraq

Iraq support Iran!

By Jeff Sherwood

September 9, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

I am constantly amazed by the vitriolic rantings of both the left and the right. Terrorism is not and should not be a political football…as the author stated, and I agree…it is the ideological struggle of the 21st century. There are millions upon millions of people worldwide who agree with bin laden et al, and they are not just going away because we want them to. Just read some of the newspapers from the 3rd world and you’ll realize there is a very real threat to Western civilization…and it’s growing.

At the time of 911, I told my wife if the terrorists were smart, they’d lay off doing anything major in the US for 10 years and our “instant solution” society would tear itself apart in its soul searching to the degree we’d be easy targets again. This internal bickering and name calling is just what our adversaries want.

Let’s start acting like our forefathers, identify the mission and get it done. FDR was absolutely right when he said the only thing we had to fear was fear itself. It’s time we get on the same page!

By getalife

September 9, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this

Here ya go @@

Do nothing?

Keep reading.

By @@

September 9, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

getalife:

Oh, I read. I read beyond Yahoo News and left-wing blogs. I read beyond partisan politics. I read strategies beyond “Destroy Bush & the Republicans.”

I read Does the Bush administration hold a straight flush, capable of beating Iran’s four aces?

Notice all the external players up at the top of the article and then read the bottom paragraphs. Was this threat the byproduct of Iraq? I don’t think so. It was the inevitable threat fueled by the Ayotollah Khomeini and radical Islamofacists throughout the Middle East and abroad and put into play by a nutcase like Ahmadinejad.

Don’t buy into the oil conspiracy like a good little liberal getalife. Focus on the reality & the enemy. Islamofacists are all the same and they can convince the weak & self-serving mind to support their objective. It’s obvious they count you liberals among their rank & file. They’re asking you to convert in their videos. Have you already done that?

Don’t underestimate Bush and the world’s greater minds. There may be a strategy at play here that simpler minds can’t conceive.

Kerry my a$$? Never.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

My, my @@.

Your mindset is full blown wingnut, scared to death of the evil Muslims.

Objective observer my a$$.

Try this dose of reality:

“Though our officials only see Iran as an enemy, as does Israel, our policies in the Middle East these past 5 years have done wonders to strengthen Iran’s political and military position in the region. We have totally ignored serious overtures by the Iranians to negotiate with us before hostilities broke out in Iraq in 2003. Both immediately after 9/11, and especially at the time of our invasion of Iraq in 2003, Iran, partially out of fear and realism, honestly sought reconciliation and offered to help the U.S. in its battle against al Qaeda. They were rebuked outright. Now Iran is negotiating from a much stronger position, principally as a result of our overall Middle East policy.

We accommodated Iran by severely weakening the Taliban in Afghanistan on Iran’s eastern borders. On Iran’s western borders we helped the Iranians by eliminating their arch enemy, Saddam Hussein. Our invasion in Iraq and the resulting chaos have inadvertently delivered up a large portion of Iraq to the Iranians, as the majority Shiites in Iraq ally themselves with Iranians.”

Iraq is Iran’s ally. It is the failed neocon plan.

Wake up wingnut.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

This one should scare you @@.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

This one is really scary

Boo!

By Dusty

September 9, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

Way to go , @@ and Jeff Sherwood. You got it right. We need a united America, not a bunch of whining cut’n’run losers.

Could you liberals just once forget the name calling, oil-is-it, Texas pronunciation, Katrina-didn’t-get-enuf-billions,phony-Plame-publicity, censor-that-movie,and the Constituion said let them kill us? Did you know we are promoting the future of Iraq while you shoot us and our military in the back with words?

The terrorists are counting on you liberals and malcontents. You undermine the country. Then they take over. They just sent you another video. More cut’n’run material. Now, remember. They are not your “folks”. We are.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

Crusty ,

“Then they take over.”

That is the most cowardly bs I have ever read.

Real Americans will never let that happen coward.

Back under your bed now.

By Monarch Hames

September 9, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

Americas non-priveledged are impatient and tired. Tired of the many avenues that hold them back - voter IDs to keep from counting. Cell phones ban to keep them from speaking. MARTA handed to the priveledged for game time to see there trick boy play for them. Decendents of the refugees from the homeland now refugees acrross the land of the plantations from broken levees and no relief. Hateful wars spending moneys needed here on attacking those who guard there lands from oil thiefs. The voices of Cynthia, Bill, Andy and others stilled by bosses of Vernon those who use trickery to control those who have less than they. The minority will be the new flood from the broken levees of oppression that will cover the lands with hope. Shame on those who want us to not be impatient.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

“President George W. Bush hopes to revive his plan to overhaul the U.S. Social Security retirement program if his Republican party keeps control of the Congress in the November midterm elections, the Wall Street Journal reported on Saturday.”

Another reason to vote for the Dems.

Despite polls suggesting Democrats have their best chance in years to regain control of the House of Representatives, Bush told the newspaper in an interview he was confident a power shift was “not going to happen.”

But, it looks like the fix is in like Mexico.

By @@

September 9, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

Oh…my…Gawd! You’re a McKinney sympathizer too?

“What are we supposed to do with a crazy man who wants the whole country to capitulate to his whims?” wrote columnist Enrique Canales in the newspaper El Universal.

You give him a new name “Gorebrador.” The mexican people are tired of this guy’s antics. He’s losing support daily. He’s a joke.

This is hysterical. You’re a socialist/communist/Islamofacist.

I’ll foot the bill for your airline ticket getalife. You can enjoy the fruits of your conversion in Iran. Who knows…you might be given the privelege of martyrdom and 17 virgins. Unless, of course, you’d rather hang around here and blow yourself up with the Democrats.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

What the hell are you on @@?

Like Wooten said, “my head spins”.

Shees.

By Dusty

September 9, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

Real Americans will never let the terrorists take over. That is why it is essential that ALL Americans behave like REAL Americans.

Listen up, liberals. NO cut-n-run and other bobble-head antics. Terrorists think that the “cut-an-runs” are running FOR THEM, not for us.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

All we need is real leadership crusty.

Cut and run was what w did on OBL.

By rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda

September 9, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

9/11 anniversary this week - good time to invest in Kleenex and Depends stock - the GOPers will be boohooing and pooping their pants in fear.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Way ahead of you “rednecks - Amerikkka’s Al Qaeda”.

Kimberly- Clark stock is booming thanks to “bowel leakage”. LOL.

By Dusty

September 9, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

Yes, Rednecks

and you will be out still waving your white flag and trying to surrender. It’s tough being a reject, isn’t it? Even the terrorists wouldn’t want your empty head, much less let you get near one of their virgins.

By rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda

September 9, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry, Georgia GOPers - your mobile homes are not high priority targets for Al Qaeda. I’m sure that Osama is content with letting you strangle in your own filth and paranoia.

By rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda

September 9, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

Genius Dusty - there is nobody to surrender to - one of the fundamental problems with this phony war on a tactic.

By Dusty

September 9, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

Filth and paranoia poster Rednecks,

Why don’t you grow up? I assume you are supposed to be a man. Try acting like one.

Most kindergarteners outgrow the excitement of bathroom babble by first grade. You haven’t gotten over it yet. The subject here is “No time for Americans to be impatient.” Try posting something decent about the subject for a change.

By @@

September 9, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

getalife:

I have posted twice and they’ve disappeared.

You have become a “true believer” if you think that there would be any sincere negotiations with radical Islamofacists. A sheep primed for their slaughter.

Link to the Iranian Constitution drawn up by the Ayatollah long before Bush & Iraq.

http://www.iranchamber.com/government/laws/constitution.php

There’s a section in there declaring the purpose of The Religious Army. Notice their intentions for “the world.” Not just the region getalife…”the world.”

Take a look at a progressive Islamic mind, the Ayatollah’s grandson whose sitting in Baghdad calling for the U.S. to bomb Iran. He also supports the coalitions efforts in Iraq. He doesn’t believe that any peoples should be oppressed by a tyrranical ruler like Saddam. He thinks that America’s freedoms are the greatest freedoms that can be offered to any oppressed peoples. He knows, he’s experienced the oppression. I’d say he was more knowledgeable than the rest of us. You?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/18/wiran18.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/06/18/ixnews.html

By rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda

September 9, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

Dusty, you’re an uneducated idiot who gets off on the fact that she sent her children to kill and maybe die in Iraq. You’re emotionally retarded, intellectually not much farther developed than the average 4th grader.

A fairly typical Georgia GOPer. Read it and weep - let’s face it - you ain’t no rocket scientist.

By Dusty

September 9, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this

Rabid Rednecks,

There is nobody to surrender to in America. Bush has taken care of that.

Head on over to the Middle East and give it a try. Act cute with them. Tell them that a real war is not going on and you know they only want peace. And do send us a post card. We’ll call it a memorial momento.

By Pretty in Prius

September 9, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

Now redneck, be fair, sir! Dusty is very special, and she thinks things through real hard. She done thunk real good today. Dusty, here’s a cookie. Good girl. That was a fine bit ‘o thinkin’.

Redneck say you’re sorry….

By @@

September 9, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

Dusty:

I’m not familiar with Wooten’s blog. I come over and make a comment every now & then. It looks like you’re dealing with the The Three Musketeers. “One for all & all for one” and not a functioning brain between them.

getalife:

Your head is spinning alright, but it’s not because of anything I said. It’s been spinning off it’s axis for awhile now. Too much time at the left-wing blogs where brains are easily scrambled like eggs.

Dusty & I like ours “sunny side up.”

Enjoy the dark tombs where you like to hang and take the two hams with you.

By rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda

September 9, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

She’s special all right, as in Special Olympics special. Somebody send her her medal.

By Dusty

September 9, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Poor Rednecks,

When you’ve got nothing to say, use insults. I don’t need your evaluation of my education since professors did it when I got my degrees. You should try that path.

You obviously have nothing to say on the subject but the usual liberal liturgy of anti-war and Let’s run.

Drink your milk. Calcium is good for the spine. You need it.

By Dusty

September 9, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

@@,

Don’t worry about the three musketeers who are more like the three little mice. Pretty in Prius is still passing out cookies. I bet she is cute as a button. Or trying to be.

They don’t mention their opinions on the subject of this blog. It doesn’t take long to say “Cut’n’run”. I’m sure they will soon mention ” Bush did it!!”.

Well, it is dinner time. I will leave this “discussion” to the sweet little Pretty and others. Have fun kiddies.

By @@

September 9, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

Dusty:

These are guys??? Well I know getalife is a guy.

I hate to tell you fellas, but something is genetically lacking in your makeup.

But never fear. I think I know what it is. The one pea-sized brain that you share has dropped into the sac. It can’t be too painful though given it’s small size. Surely the Three Musketeers believe in sharing that pea so is it any wonder why you have no stomach for what has to be done.

It’s O.K. there’s always a sausage to be enjoyed with those scrambled eggs of yours.

I’m thinking Sandy Berger’s pants here.

By getalife

September 9, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

@@,

The foreign policy of the Islamic Republic of Iran is based upon the rejection of all forms of domination, both the exertion of it and submission to it, the preservation of the independence of the country in all respects and its territorial integrity, the defence of the rights of all Muslims, non-alignment with respect to the hegemonic superpowers, and the maintenance of mutually peaceful relations with all non-belligerent States.

It means they do not want to be bullied by other arrogant pos like w. They want respect and they will get it now they are the power of the Middle East thanks to w. Their rhetoric is political bs to unite the Muslim world and it worked.

Keep reading. You are learning but your ignorant wingnut mindset keep interfering with reality.

Once again, read this to know reality

The rest is propaganda bs.

By time for the truth

September 9, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

a double act of deranged appeasing poofs … rednekkks vermin and maggot brain!!

with gutless hate America trash like this slithering around in cyber sapce posting their utterly unrepresentative bollux no wonder mohammedan terrorists are emboldened when they read/see in the party of hate dominated media that Bush and the GOP might lose the house and perhaps the senate.

that would be a catastrophe for the free world - and sends entirely the wrong signal in the coming clash with Nazi Iran.

@@ is wrong though - you dont have a peesized brain between you - its rather more amoebic in ability and size. kind of like Jerry’s (see earlier drivel above) who is also as witless as they come.

I’m looking forward to even more of sick willie’s denials and squirming on the ABC film of the weekend.

ALL lefties owe Karl Rove an apology for the lies and poison they have been spewing about him and that worthless trollop Plain!

By getalife

September 9, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

lies,

In English this time.

What is a poof and do you have a green card bloody wanker?

By Pretty in Prius

September 9, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

zzzzz

By candide

September 10, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this

The dangerous and terroristic men we have most to fear are in the Bush Administration.

By Tangental Change

September 10, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

Anyone check out the Iraqi Constitution?

It is a road map to regional independence. the local laws are stronger than the central laws. (State laws override Federal).

Now focus on the Shia Militias, which already had a defacto local hegemony. There are no viable avenues that the elected Iraqi government can take to stop the Shia Militias from performing whatever civic duties they see fit. (civic duties: destroy israel)

We are fighting to install fascists military fundementalists, each in it’s own little corner of Iraq, which would have happened with or without our troops.

No matter the motivation, (the secular democratic Kurds, the Sunnis, the Shias), each group has it’s own agenda and will do whatever they please to attain those goals, even if it involves perpetuating the 14 centuries old civil war that’s raging.

In other words, we can chant, “Stay the course” as loud as they chant, “Death to America”, and it aint gonna change a gottdang thing about the destiny of Iraq.

The window of a mission-accomplished style victory that existed in Bush’s mind has closed. There can be no unified Iraq. Maybe for three weeks in 2003, we had a chance to build one, but we missed that chance when we had no peace plan.

Did you know that the only ministry building left standing and operational and gaurded at “mission accomplished” was the oil ministry?

Not even the water ministry building was intact, leaving baghdad dry.

Newt Ginrich seems to think it’s about oil. Ask him. IF he comes out swinging against Bush’s Iraq policy then he can win in ‘08. Watch Newt play both sides.

By CJ

September 10, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

The war in Iraq has lasted much longer and cost much more than the President led us to believe. We’re not losing because of the competence of the enemy. We’re losing because of the incompetence of President Bush. Those who seek to redeploy out of Iraq are not impatient. To the contrary, they’re extraordinarily patient. But now, justifiably, their patience has run out. If we had a competent Commander-in-Chief, then I’d support the draft to finish this thing with overwhelming force in the way that Colin Powell advocated. However, since we’re stuck with Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rumsfeld, I support redeployment. Unfortunately, Mr. Wooten confuses appeasement with pragmatism.

By getalife

September 10, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

“And, again, I don’t know where he [bin Laden] is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.”

ABC will be showing a film full of lies blaming Clinton. w will make a speech during the film. I hope he will say we got him but I think he will spew more lies blaming others because he never admits mistakes.

By Tangental Change

September 10, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

The Right is right in complaining about all the parallels the left makes in comparing Bush to Hitler. It’s ridiculous, and inappropriate.

Then why did Rumsfeld invoke the specter of the Nazi era with his incantation of the term, “appeasement”.

That word’s current definition entered the lexicon when Britain’s Chamberlain signed a peace treaty with Hitler just before WW2.

By rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda

September 10, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Greetings, rednecks and decent people, from the Valley of the Sun. I’m assuming we’ll see lots of flag waving and somber faces spouting tough-guy slogans here in the red states for the next several days, more whining than mourning. Gals like tftt, Realist and Markanus - stop your simpering and whimpering, show some backbone - enlist if you think this is such a great war.

Dusty - degrees? Must be either beauty school or clown college.

By getalife

September 10, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

~Tillman cover-up ~Schiavo ~How many people affected in Hurricane Katrina ~Lack of the use of swift boats in the Katrina Rescue effort ~No air drops to Superdome ~Orders to shoot people over a loaf of bread that was taken from a store ~Explosion heard 2 days after the storm passed and THEN the levees gave way ~GOP holding votes open ~Last throes comment ~Stuff happens comment ~Mission accomplished (100 dead at the time) ~Medicare reform Bill ~Class-Action Reform Bill ~Medicare not allowed to broker prices for prescription drugs ~Drownie ~Condi shoe shopping ~We don’t torture, we send detainees to other countries to not be tortured ~Democrats are muzzled on all legislation ~Lobbying is well out of control ~Abramoff ~DeLay ~Diebold ~Ohio elections ~Katherine Harris ~Journalists targeted in Iraq ~Oil not paying for the war ~Not being treated as liberators ~Patrick McHenry claiming we hate America (Schiavo case) ~Ethics committee gutted ~FDA will approve anything (except emergency birth control) ~Attack on Social Security ~President flipping off the camera ~No child left behind is not paid for ~Refusing aid after Katrina ~Red Cross not allowed to assist after Katrina ~Fema is way too bloated and does nothing that the DHS can’t do ~Cutting aid to NYPD and FDNY that are affected form the cleanup effort when they were told that the air was safe to breathe ~Tax cuts to those that don’t trickle it down ~3 Trillion Dollars more in debt ~No help in NOLA until Bush arrived (then it stopped again when he left) ~Abu Ghraib ~Gitmo ~Italian reporter shot up ~Bolton recess appointment ~No legislation passed that big money hasn’t backed ~Documented reports of Bush’s Grandfather (Prescott Bush) bankrolling Adolf Hitler ~Buying the Iraqi press ~Wanted to bomb Al-Jazeera ~No water or electricity in Iraq ~Cindy Sheehan shunted ~Harriet Miers ~Jessica Lynch ~Soldiers serving well after their agreed enlistment time ~President won’t hold press conferences ~President only speaks to cherry-picked audiences ~Plame Outing ~Scooter Libby ~Spy in Cheney’s office ~Jean Schmidt ~Wage stagnation ~Halliburton in New Orleans and Iraq ~Outsourcing of jobs ~Money printed in Iraq ~NO WMD ~Yellow Cake ~Rove ~No victory gauge ~No armor for soldiers either Iraqi or American ~Outsourcing the building of Marine 1 Helicopters ~Fighter jets sold to Pakistan by W…on a Saturday ~No accuracy in unemployment rate reporting ~SEC has become a joke ~Hedge funds aren’t regulated ~No war strategy ~Downing Street Memos ~Borrowing from the communists ~$330,000 a month to Chalabi ~Bush housing Saudis ~Where’s UBL ~Flew UBL’s family out of the country after he bombed us ~No border security ~Gas prices ~Home heating prices higher than ever in history ~IRS auditing churches ~Price of war way underestimated ~Bayoil ~Closed session of Senate accomplished nothing the GOP said it would ~Pre-war intel was/is fixed ~Alabama voted for Jeff Sessions (how can that be?) ~Environmental laws absolutely gutted ~Middle class forgotten all-together ~Redistricting to rig elections ~Patriot Act ~Civil rights eroded/gutted ~Treatment of Michael Schiavo ~GOP votes against EVERY inquiry of wrong-doing ~9/11 commission ignored completely ~Programs for the neediest gutted ~Education budged harshly slashed ~Terror alerts subsided after Keith Olbermann finally exposes the coincidences ~Every document is classified ~Most secretive president ever ~Curveball ~Interstates inadequate for mass evacuations ~What was the Noble cause ~Everyone in NOLA have life insurance(?) ~Blaming Tenet for the “slam dunk” comment and then awarding Medal of Freedom ~Elderly deaths went way up during the Social Security Savagery ~Dems can’t add amendments to legislation ~Over 60% of elections won by less than 4% ~Sensenbrenner walked off with the gavel during Patriot Act hearing ~Tax cuts to ship jobs away ~Soldiers getting Purple Heart collections ~Fox News isn’t biased ~Veterans benefits cut ~No exception for soldiers in the Bankruptcy Reform Bill ~Internet threatened with regulation ~Every shopping bag at Wal-Mart is made in Singapore ~Bianca ~Still ignoring NOLA ~Creating immigration laws that take affect in 5 years ~Pat Robertson and James Dobson tell their congregation how they should vote ~Jerry Falwell too ~Corruption is the norm ~No timetable for when the debt will be paid ~DOW was at 11,770 when Bush took office 5 years ago ~Dollar is losing value ~Haven’t defined what is/isn’t torture for all to hear ~Trade agreements are not even close to fair ~Ports left unprotected ~Definition of a terrorist is ever so vague ~GOP claims to have different degrees of Neo-Cons (but they all vote exactly the same) ~Swift-Boating John Kerry ~What is the Skull and Bones Society? ~Drownie was kept on the payroll ~Drownie was never fired ~Newt touring with Hillary ~How many soldiers in an Iraqi Batallion? ~Max Cleland was treated like a piece of s** ~Why were helicopters used to find the people, trying to escape the rising waters, pounding on their roofs from inside their attics? ~5 deferments ~Nuclear option ~Ethics committee couldn’t get Cunningham 2 years after it was known that his house was sold to a defense contractor for $700,000 over it’s value as he lived on that contractor’s yacht ~20% tax on land phone lines ~12% on cell towers ~Diesel fuel is 50 cents higher than gasoline ~Home by Christmas ~Establishing a democracy and not a Republic? ~Jeb doesn’t have FEMA woes ~War profiteering ~Health care ~Armstrong Williams ~Sure quote Lieberman a lot ~Caspian Sea pipeline ~If it’s a Reform Bill or Deregulation Bill the result is never better quality or more affordability ~Cheney said he was glued to the TV all week like everyone else ~Christian values never reflected in legislation ~Jeff Gannon ~Nobody accountable for anything ~Smoking in the rotunda ~Loaded SCOTUS ~MZM ~Chuck Hagel was CEO of ES&S ~Offshore accounts of members ~No mistakes come to mind ~Niger ~Haley Barbour told us FEMA was there on Tuesday ~No scandals given credence ~Math is spun (math don’t lie) ~Government is largest in over 200 years ~Looking under a desk for WMD’s ~Non-combative protestors arrested ~Soviet Gulags ~Superdome ~Opium export in Afghanistan up 2000% ~Hannity is a P*** ~Ready for a Category 6? ~Global warming ignored ~Hans Blix ~Pakistan earthquake money ~Private prison stockholders ~George H W Bush runs Pharma ~Ambassador to the Vatican? ~Rush never busted on possession charges ~Bill Bennett ~Joe Wilson ~Indian Casino lobbying for how much? ~We aren’t safer ~Wire-taps BEFORE 9/11 ~SCOTUS chose our President ~Carnival cruise line contract after Katrina ~Able Danger ~Ken Lay ~Harken Energy ~Rupert Murdoch ~Blatant over-charges in Iraq and NOLA ~Bird Flu vaccine for only 20 million ~Name 4 pieces of legislation passed by the Republicans that Adolf Hitler would NOT have applauded as a good start….

Stop the insanity.

Vote Dem for accountability.

By rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda

September 10, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

Get, tftt is a poof from a long line of poofs - “poof” means limpwristed spineless coward, tftt is just the latest in a long line.

By getalife

September 10, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Hell red,

I do not read his drivel anymore unless I see my name in his puke he types.

I think he is an illegal immigrant because he never answers me about it.

By rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda

September 10, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

Tomorrow’s the big anniversary, GOPers.

If you decide to come out from under your beds, don’t forget your hankies and pacifiers, you bunch of cowardly crybabies.

By JK

September 10, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Thank you for your continued efforts to pull our neighbors’ heads out of the sand and into the light. It is what it is! LOOK at what IS! But they’d rather close their eyes and see what they want to see, and believe what they want to believe — a practice that solves nothing. Never has; never will.

While our efforts to enlighten must continue, I’m going to lay low for a few days. I will not join these WHORES in the ensuing EXPLOIT-FEST EXTRAVAGANZA while they use one of our nation’s biggest tragedies and ongoing sorrows as a slingshot with which to launch their flaming hunks of POO at their fellow Americans in a lame attempt to prove they’re “right.” (That really is all they care about anyway, right Mr. Wooten?)

It’s starting already. They make me sick. All of them.

By getalife

September 10, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

JK,

You are welcome. I will continue to point out the obvious for our blind, ignorant, fake Americans.

You are correct, they will sling alot of crap starting tonite with the comedy “path to 9/11”.

Muslims do not scare me like they do the wingnuts. What really scares me is if the gop win the upcoming elections. We have a chance to vote for accountability and if we lose, there is no telling what the idiots in Washington will do.

By Felicia

September 10, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten, I hope this is O.K. but I’d like to leave a way in which we can make a difference while remembering the victims of 9/11. The gestures, however small, can help us, as individuals, cope with the tragedy while letting someone know that we care. Pass it forward.

It’s something that we should all do daily. I often think of those innocent victims in the WTC and the families they left behind. The courageous deeds of emergency personnel and strangers tied to one another through their humanity.

It is a barbaric enemy that we face and the country should come together to support the efforts of those fighting to protect us. Regardless of why, what, or how we ended up in Iraq, we must finish the job. I’m pleased that President Bush is implementing new & different methods in which to overcome the threat. Diplomacy is ongoing and our troops and the coalition forces are steadfast in their committment to the Iraqi and Afghani people.

Let us all pray for their safety & success.

By Atl. NPA

September 10, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

Sir, If you as editor for the AJC are responsible for it’s mostly shallow journalism, and mild unoriginal editorial perspective on anything, please retire. Not merely because you add nothing to the conversation, but your lazy point of view which mostly reiterates the propaganda of the Bush administration (not to be confused with the perspective of republicians,democrats, and political nonaffiliates who do not agree with the president or his failed policies), contains little original perspective and reads like a moderately embellished press release from the White House. The war in Afghanistan is not the war in Iraq, when you constantly reiterate the propaganda that got the U.S. into the Iraq war which was based on lies and half truths as is demonstrated every day by many newspapers that practice journalism despite their obvious idealological leanings, newspapers such as the Ny Times , the Washington Times, the Washington Post. If you take the time to distinguish the difference between the two conflicts, you might realize that there are huge rifts in the reasons we engaged in them and that they are both in dire straits. The soldiers who are engaged in fighting and dying in these two different conflicts may wish to point out their lack of similarity, don’t cheapen their work and sacrifice by lumping the two together. 5 years? Please Sir, tell us what the U.S. has accomplished? The world is safer? For who? The people in Kabul (where a suicide cell operates with impunity)? The people in Baghdad? The people in New Orleans or Biloxi? Who has profited from this failed endeavor, who has suffered? Look realistically at the statistics, at the qualitive reports coming out of these conflicts, please examine reality and see that the U.S. is being driven to ruin by the adventures of a group of idealologues who warp the truth or outright lie to further their dogma. How many Americans have died? Iraquis? Afghans? What kind of profits have Boeing, Haliburton, Blackwater, Northrop Gruman, and G.E. made? Why have the oil companies been posting record profits? Who profits from the propaganda Mr. Wooten? Who suffers?

By getalife

September 10, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

Felicia,

Here is my good deed.

How about some honest, competent leadership who will not put our troops in the middle of a civil war in Iraq and actually finish the job in Afghanistan?

By Cal

September 10, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

I’m with you Jim. There’s no turning back now. The Democrats solutions are no solutions at all.

It’s full speed ahead for America’s fighting forces no matter how steep the hill.

A man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do. Clinton & his CIA could have stopped this radical philosophy before it spread. He’s guilty of 9/11. Never would have happened if he’d pulled the trigger when given the opportunity. I don’t know how they sleep at night. Must be tough.

By Larry Stanley

September 10, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

Jim, you are about the only editor at AJC whose positions are consistently worthy of reading. The others sometimes get lucky with an intelligent piece, but I never miss reading “Thinking Right.”

On this issue, you are again on target. Five years is a long time in political cycles. But this war, as Bush said, is a defining ideological issue with worldwide implications. The last great “religious war” in the region lasted nearly 300 years with the Knights Templar vs Muslim militias. In our lifetime, though, great powers like the US v. USSR more or less held their skirmishes to the region.

I want to see more hard-core military action only because strength is the one attribute this enemy has respected since the 7th Century. With Europe having no tangible military strength; and the US unable to trust France, German or Russia; it is truly up to the US to set the standard for global affairs.

Knowing the Sixty’s radical bunch have co-opted the Democrat party only breeds more contempt for their antics. Distractions through lies and media manipulation would have been called seditious in 1943!

By Tangental Change

September 10, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

zzzzz

By Larry Stanley

September 10, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

Dear US-hating radicals: “ABC will be showing a film full of lies blaming Clinton.”

Clinton is only 6 years out of office and you are already revising the history of his administration! Ttwin Towers ‘93, US embassies, USS Cole… anything rign a bell?

Mr. Bill was too busy allowing the tail to wag the dog (and chase Monica around the oval office) to be concerned with global attacks on US interests! There was too much potential for political fallout that may hurt Hillary’s run for Senate! Besides it takes more than shrill shouting and weak spine to run a nation.

By Larry Stanley

September 10, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

Pragmatism? Pragmatic actions would have called for early bombing and takeover of Saudi Arabia - that is where the oil is. Now that Iran has officially reared its head, we should pragmatically blow the snot out of Tehran. That is pragmatism.

No, we are talking our way into a deeper hole. Diplomacy is a good theng, but when it will not work, and we keep on talking, I call that appeasement. The bad guys get their way only because we have chosen not to act decisevely in our own interests.

By time for the truth

September 10, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this

you nailed it Cal … and rednekkks vermin and maggot brain and feminazi JK and the rest of the hate America crowd (on here) are just too bloated with their irrational envious Bush hate to see that the pardon selling sexual predator from Little Rock and his corrupt crew of shameless incompetents who ignored the years of depraved behaviour in the White House are the real enemy within whom because of their moral and political cowardice bear by far the biggest share of the blame for the mass murder on 9/11.

Sadly the verminous liberal media even five years on glibly lies and twists the facts - anything to hide sick Willie’s culpability.

Guilt about anything has never bothered sick Willie though - even the extremely credible allegations of rape (highlighted in the investigation by the House during impeachment) both in England and Little Rock he has just completely ignored, along with his proven sexual harassment, and worse of other women.

Clinton is the most disgusting and despicable president the nation has ever had, and one of the most corrupt.

And now you see the liberal left screeching like stuck banshees when a minor TV movie begins to show the American people what really happened. That sick Willie and his cronies refused to pull the trigger on bin laden. And then lied about it repeatedly afterwards.

By getalife

September 10, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

Don’t watch this idiot lie again.

You may get a glimpse of reality.

Shees.

By getalife

September 10, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this

Don’t read this, it is reality:

Excerpted from the transcript of today’s NBC Meet The Press with host Tim Russert.

…MR. RUSSERT: All right. Now the president has been asked, “What did Iraq have to do with the attack on the World Trade Center?” and he said “nothing.” Do you agree with that?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: I do. So it’s not…

MR. RUSSERT: So it’s case, case closed.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: We’ve never been able to confirm any connection between Iraq and 9/11.

MR. RUSSERT: And the meeting with Atta did not occur?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: We don’t know. I mean, we’ve never been able to, to, to link it, and the FBI and CIA have worked it aggressively. I would say, at this point, nobody has been able to confirm…

By getalife

September 10, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this

This is too much reality for you wingnuts :

“It has become a recruiting poster for al Qaeda It has redirected the focus of our energies from Afghanistan to Iraq. Since then we have seen the Taliban make a massive comeback in Afghanistan. A world that once viewed us as a friend and gave us all their support has left us. We are now left with the U.K. and that ally is fast moving away from us.”

By Markus

September 10, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

Wow. Take a quick weekend trip to the mountains and what happens? Resident unemployed got-no-life loser jackhole neomarxist terrorist-loving liberals take over. What do these liborats think, they are going to CHANGE PEOPLE’S MINDS HERE and we’ll vote RAT or something? I don’t FREAKING THINK SO. (So quit wasting so much time, libogoons).

The silent majority will speak out again in two months, and of course the jackass party will b!tch and pee in their pretty pink panties about “voter irregularities” and “police roadblocks” and “using firehoses” to keep blacks from voting.

9/11 flick coming up shortly! Yeah that’s right. America for once and for all FINALLY see what Republicans knew all along about the Clintoon administration: too busy with liberal skank interns to “blow” islamoterrorists out of the water.

The Clintoon legacy on fighting terrorism between 1993 and 2000:

Qty 1 ea. blind islamofascist leader in jail.

Qty 2 ea. cruise missile into camel tent in Afghanistan.

Qty 3 ea. opportunities to capture Osama.

To my fellow Conservatives here weeding through the liberal sewage: here’s a GREAT book to wet the appetite on what Clintoon did for us with regards to terrorism in the 1990s. This guy should know well, because he was the nuke code briefcase holder for Clintoon. My copy is on the way!

http://www.nrbookservice.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=C6153

Don’t let these jackass liberal pigs bother you. Just treat them like the garbage they are. The truth is out there…

By Markus

September 10, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this

Liberal democrat revisionist history chapter 33, paragraph 4:

Once stuck in right-wing prehistoric times, administration officials have now read their history books clear up to WWII…wait until they get to the chapter on the Korean War. That was a tie when we pulled out…we pulled out of Vietnam and now they are our trading partner.

Quote taken from the Sunday AJC letters to the editor page G5 by a ‘David Bice of Kennesaw.’

Has this jackass never heard of SOUTH KOREA? This is the SOUTH KOREA that builds Kia and Hyundai automobiles, of which there are and will be plants here in the US for. How many people own Vietnamese automobiles? How many people own electronics made in Vietnam? How many Vietnamese auto manufacturer plants does America have providing jobs? And this JACKASS wants to compare Vietname to South Korea???

Just a Class A example of the sickness and sheer blind indoctrination of liberalism. Make up history as you feel. What IDIOTS.

By getalife

September 10, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

Macaca,

But, but, but Clinton.

Wingnuts are the ones in power and they are failures.

Hold them accountable and stop trying to blame others.

Just like a punk, China loving, war mongering, cowering under his bed, coward, scared to death of a few bad people, unAmerican, fascist dictator loving, pos.

By Markus

September 10, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it funny how appeasing liberal democrats on one hand will say that Bush isn’t doing enough about North Korea and look at how far along they are on nukes (while conveniently ignoring the failed Carter/Clintoon/notsoAlbright nuke treaty signed with them), but yet out of their other pie hole they wet their beds when Bush “sabre rattles” about Iran and their nuke program.

Boy, I sure would like to know which side of America these candyasses are on. At least ONCE.

By Markus

September 10, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

Liberal RAT hypocrisy 201:

When Bush and fellow Republicans try to do something about islamofascist terrorism, we are just “scared of them” and “overhyping” things.

When America gets attacked, Bush “never did enough to stop it.”

Food for thought this November.

By getalife

September 10, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

Macaca,

But, but, but Clinton again.

Is that all you got fascist dictator appeaser?

Run along and enlist coward.

By Markus

September 10, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Damn. I keep hoping gotnolife would show up under a MARTA bus for refusing to come to a cop’s aid on “Metropolitcan Parkway” like what happened this weekend. MARTA bus driver drives away while a criminal punk beats up an Atlanta cop trying to get him on the bus.

Man, I sure am glad Atlanta’s city leaders changed the name of Bankhead Highway and Stewart Avenue to solve all those crime problems.

By Markus

September 10, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

Ned Lamont praised Lieberman in anti-Clintoon comments in 1998. Yeah that’s right. Peckerboy Clintoon got dissed by Lieberman, and no-name Lamont backed him up then. Ain’t life grand when liberal RATs expose RATs without even knowing?

morelibBS

By Markus

September 10, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

Has anyone seen limpwrist softball P** Matthews talk about Plamegate lately? Anybody? Anyone? Gee, I WONDER WHY.

By Cal

September 10, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

Just how stupid can a liberal be. This getalife is so afraid of a Republican win in November he sits here all weekend espousing his stupidity. Is he hoping his stupidity will win everyone over to the Democrats? Only if you’re a democrat to begin with. Stupid people follow a clueless party.

Only the U.K. in Afghanistan huh?

Extending Canada’s mission in Afghanistan ‘right thing to do’

Of course, every country has their liberal party and this is how they fight their battles:

Reporter suspended for letter in praise of soldiers

Just like Clinton. Wants to prevent the truth from coming out. Liberal crybabies at war with the truth.

Watch “Path to 9/11” on ABC tonight.

By Markus

September 10, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

Cal-

This gotnolife person poses with more than one ID. If you get this sick liberal freak REALLY riled up, your ID will be spoofed. It’s happened to just about all regular conservatives here. This individual is sick in the mind and can’t STAND that there is a blog out there on the liberal rag AJC actually giving a conservative voice. You can feel the rage behind the screen of this wicked animal.

Somebody tell the liberal pigs out there that there is a LOT MORE GOING ON OUT THERE OTHER THAN IRAQ.

By time for the truth

September 10, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

the ABC movie of the week tonite should be hilarious. I actually stopped watching anything on ABC when NYPD blue finally petered out. But knowing sick Willie and his treasonous cowardly crew will be bedwetting their lawn furniture whilst watching it will make it even more fun. Might even get to see some local commercials I dont usually ever get to see on Fox News and the Fox REAL English Football Channel. Hopefully there’ll be no puke inducing sightings of moniKa kaufmann to ruin the evening!!

Perhaps the vile coward Sandy Burglar will try and steal some more damaging documents in his trousers next week.

bet maggot brain and rednekks vermin cant ever bring themselves to condemn Burglar for stealing the documents … just like their pathetic silence on an apology for Rove after the lefty hate media’s lies on the worthless story about the worthless trollop Plame.

By Markus

September 10, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

getalife-

Run along and enlist coward

Only after you get off your liberal FATASS and volunteer to build habitat for humanity homes in place of the time you spend on this blog seven FREAKING days a week ten FREAKING hours a day here, you nasty old dried up liberal skank.

Otherwise, sit down, cross your hairy legs, and SHAAADAAAAAAAAP already about military service, PIG. It wasn’t important to your boy for 8 years, hypocritical liberal PIG.

By time for the truth

September 10, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Markus

maggot brain is just a hateful Mexican type illegal immigrant who is running a massage parlour in Decatur for his wealthy uncle - so he’s practising his pathetic English skills whilst Carmen and Jolanda are paying his Winn Dixie grocery bill!!

By Cal

September 10, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

Going for the gold on those links.

Extending Canada’s mission in Afghanistan ‘right thing to do’

Reporter suspended for letter in praise of soldiers

While the liberals go for the toilet.

By getalife

September 10, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

I know Macaca,

You do not have the guts and you blame everything on the liberals.

They need you in the Middle East to fight for what you say you believe in but what what the hell. I know you are all mouth and a coward.

I bet you were whining about Kosovo like the rest of the wingnuts after one month. Jim was too.

Hypocrites.

By Felicia

September 10, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

My apologies getalife. I can’t see supporting a party that won’t promote this nation’s safety and is too quick to criticize our brave soldiers.

Your good deed follows the coward’s way. My brother is over there and I won’t put his life in jeopardy by supporting the enemy and I wish people like you wouldn’t either.

By Markus

September 10, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

After reviewing part of the recordings of this morning’s Sunday shows like George Steponanoctopus and Meet The Press, one has to ask: why not one mention of Sandy “9/11 document five finger discount sock stuffer” Berger’s rampage at the National Archives?

A second note: not one said host quoted where Bush or ANY OTHER Republican actually said Saddam was directly to indirectly responsible for 9/11 as insinuated by the same assinine repetitive questions over and over. One would think that with all those quotes that Meet The Press has, they’d at least show ONE. It’s all a made-up liberal crock of s**t.

By getalife

September 10, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

If you have Disney stock, I would sale because this lying movie is a terrible business decision.

Americans are sick of the lies.

By time for the truth

September 10, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this

the treasonous Dean the scream nutter on Fox News Sunday point blank refused to apologise to Rove after he was cleared of any and all complicity in the Plame non story.

typical liberal moral cowardice

By Markus

September 10, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Yeah that’s right, you pathetic gotnolife-

They need you in the Middle East to fight for what you say you believe in but what what the hell. I know you are all mouth and a coward.

And you need our money because you’re too lazy to get off your fatass and build homes for the poor. You want to USE US for your neocommunist policies. You are a PATHETIC human being.

By time for the truth

September 10, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

Americans are sick of the lies.

they’re sick of the lies about Rove being involved in the Plame non-story and then liberals being too spiteful to even apologise!!

By getalife

September 10, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this

That is ridiculous Felecia.

Real Americans want honest, competent leadership for our troops to win.

Our leadership does not give a crap about winning.

They care about money, power and oil.

Do not apologize for your opinion. It is one of the last freedoms you will happily give away for your so called security.

By Markus

September 10, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

And you are wrong gotnolife-

I was not “whining” about Kosovo. An Air Force pilot friend (now flying commerical) flew recon missions there. I never ONCE said we didn’t belong there, and I SURE as hell didn’t trash our president for it. So don’t tell me what I KNOW, you pathetic liberal PIG. All YOU know about me is what I SAY here. Liberal PIG.

By Cal

September 10, 2006 06:06 PM | Link to this

Alright everybody whose been reading this getalife guys posts. Check out his 11:46 contribution. This is the crap he believes.

Explosion heard 2 days after the storm passed and THEN the levees gave way

He’s a moron and should be disregarded altogether. He’s a freakin’ conspiracy junkie.

By Markus

September 10, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

Thanks Cal-

Another reason to keep these kook fringe liborats out of power for a LONG time: they believe Bush blew up the New Orleans levee system and hired goons to fly planes into the two WTC towers. No word on what happened to the passengers of those non-planes that hit the Pentagon and PA field.. or did these kookasses actually believe one airliner slammed into a PA field?

By time for the truth

September 10, 2006 11:24 PM | Link to this

Perhaps for one day … the fifth anniversary of 9/11 … the liberals can get over their Bush hate and sneering about Iraq etc, or at least politely suspend it for a while.

Whilst we are a long way down here in GA (geographically) from what occured five years ago what happened resonated nationally and internationally. Whatever one’s political position surely we all realise that the mohammedan terrorists (ideally) want to kill of us - regardless of whether we vote GOP or Democrat. That is a pretty sobering and unifying fact to ponder as we all (hopefully) spare at least a few selfless thoughts for those who died on this day … and those who have since in the ongoing struggle between good and evil.

By CBJones

September 11, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

I am an American citizens, I am ashamed of America for what our President is willing to do to get oil from his so called enemy. The American people who wants to believe our President is without sin can continue to keep their heads in the sand but if they were to go back to the first Bush presidency, they will see Bush’s father was the buddy to all of our now called enemy. I don’t and will never support this illegal war, and I do believe that the bombing originated in the mind of the White House. I have family members not fightings for my safety but to get control of an oil field. Why is it so hard for Americans to accept the truth, Bush does not care for the people in Iraq, not do he care for our soldiers who are being killed, maimed and left without help when they come home, do your own research and stop screaming we are doing what is necessary, without knowing the facts. God will be the true judge and America will pay the price for killing innocent people in the name of greed. This is not political right or left, this is calling illegal killing the crime that it is. God is not blessing America for this crime against humanity, in order to fatten wealthy people pockets. Bush is not a God but a devil in sheeps clothing. To the people who believe in small government, how do you explain the 100 billion and counting we have used in the name of making a country become a democracy. How can such a small country win against such large enemies, simple, God is not pleased with what we are doing, therefore we will not win. I suggest conservatives pick up a history book, called the bible and read about David and Galiath, if God is not pleased we can’t win.

By Keith

September 11, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

So a foreign government, one defeated by the USA in a war, tries to assassinate the former President who led the fight to defeat that country. That’s reason enough for me to let the nuclear tipped missiles fly, to hell with a ground invasion. Iraq is a sht-hole and not really worthy of our efforts, but that is 20-20 hindsight. The way to end this war is to take out a 100 yard radius of every IED that explodes, the a*-holes living in the neighborhood know the bombs are there. You also go after the families of the suicide bombers and plant that thought in the mind of the suicidal.
Fear works, just ask Saddam Hussein.

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