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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thinking Right’s free-for-all Friday. Pick a topic:
• Peace is at hand. Jesse’s there. Ship in Madeleine Albright, who charmed Kim Jong-il out of his nuclear ambitions, and it’s a lock. Guys, gals, you’re coming home.
• You know the United States is weak when Fidel Castro’s brother, Raul, threatens us. This is the world we will live in if the appeasers prevail. Maybe it’s something in the water: Lebanon’s defense minister warned Hezbollah not to break the cease-fire with Israel, lest they be subject to “harsh measures,” presumably from his government.
• Bob Bruegmann, architecture historian and urban planner at the University of Illinois at Chicago, has metro Atlanta pegged perfectly: “What you’re seeing in Atlanta is the building of a new generation of downtowns. The best way to think about it is not city vs. suburbs, but a process of constant decentralization.” The ancient notion that has hampered most all thought about Cobb, for example, and Atlanta is that one is the downtown and the other is the suburb. We’re neighbors. That’s it. Not dependents. Neighbors. Not spoke-and-hub. Neighbors. Not satellites. Neighbors. Quit calling me a suburb, neighbor.
• A headline for all armies, all time: “Grumbling from Israeli soldiers.” About food and equipment.
• When I hear that a federal judge has ruled, as U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor did, that warrantless surveillance of calls from overseas by suspected terrorists is unconstitutional, my first question is: Who appointed her? Answer: Jimmy Carter. Appeal. The second question is: What’s her politics? Ah, as Judicial Watch pointed out, she’s a trustee of a foundation that gave grants to a branch of the American Civil Liberties Union, a party to the suit. Disciplinary action is warranted, before or after her decision is thrown out.
• Three reasons not to levy taxes: 1) Atlanta; 2) the federal government; 3) no care, no oversight. When given $5 million in free money to spend rehabbing houses for the handicapped, elderly or poor, Atlanta blew it. It’s not real money. It’s from the feds. Rip it off. A massive shutdown of federal spending programs is needed.
• Georgia state Sen. Don Balfour (R-Snellville) is the lone Republican among the top 10 legislators with campaign finance late-filing penalties. There’s a lesson here, young people. When you get into trouble, see who’s there with you. If they’re not what you want to be, change your behavior.
• Good for DeKalb and for CEO Vernon Jones, who proposed a $100 fine if talking on a cellphone is a contributing factor in a wreck. Commissioners upped it to $500 and passed it into law. A majority of the drivers out-of-synch with traffic are on the phone.
• Headline: “Media new front in war on terrorism.” Absolutely. Wars are won on the battlefield and lost in the translation. The administration and the military should do everything legal, moral and ethical to influence the media — here and around the world.
• About 40 percent of the $111 billion allocated for Katrina recovery has been spent. A problem? Nope. Not in the least. Some bureaucrat should stand to lose his job, and some recipient should be fined or go to jail, for misspent money. The “shovel it out the door” period is over.
• Two environmental groups want Georgia Power Co. to raise my bill to generate up to $9 million per year to fund grants and loans to groups working on renewable energy projects, such as wind and solar. The state has wisely declined. This is an example of how interest groups would use the private sector as tax collector to fund off-budget the social programs they want. Conservatives should always oppose this tax gimmick.
• Bring me some more of those little itsy-bitsy gas-nipping minicars. On second thought, not just yet. Fatalities on U.S. roadways in 2005 reached the highest level in 15 years, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reports. The biggest jump, though, was among motorcyclists, where fatalities were up 13 percent. Roll back helmet laws, as Florida, Texas and Pennsylvania have done recently, and deaths go up.
Who’s surprised? States should repeal helmet laws — only after riders sign living wills, show unsubsidized biker-pool insurance coverage adequate to cover their medical bills and vegetative-state nursing home care and produce affidavits from their spouse, parents and children renouncing any claim to taxpayer-funded survivor benefits.
• Jim Wooten is associate editorial page editor. His column runs Fridays, Sundays and Tuesdays.
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By Mid-South Philosopher
August 25, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
I am really struggling with the telephone surveillance issue. Quite honestly, I don’t have a problem with calls of “suspected terrorists” being screened when coming in from overseas, and I really don’t have a problem with calls from “suspected terrorists” being screened when originating within the United States…the operative words being “suspected terrorists.”
My problem is with the national government. Their record of preventing abuse in similar situations is not impressive. Moreover, the FISA Court process is in existence and should be able to be adjusted to provide the “executive” branch the authority it needs.
I understand “Georgie” Bush’s rationale that investigators need to have the latitude to instigate warrantless screening on the spot, as we may not know just when a suspected terrorist is going to call, and, of course, some new player may always appear on the scene. But he has yet to explain to my simple mind why, “after the fact,” it is not possible to present evidence for the decision to screen before a FISA Court and have this intrusion into civil liberties ratified by the judiciary. All proceedings are secret, security would be preserved, and the “executive” branch of our government would not be perceived quite the “big brother” that the liberals claim.
As far as my telephone calls are concerned, like a lot of Americans, I am tempted to say, “Let’em listen.” The thought of some investigator somewhere listening to the forty-five minute to an hour conversations between my wife and her mother concerning arthritic remedies and laxative potions should, at least, make the country mobile and regular!
On a dead serious note for my conservative friends, we need to be careful with this. Methinks, we will not always have a conservative in the White House.
By Crackey!
August 25, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this
Cobb County has officially been downgraded from suburb to “obnoxiously large cul-de-sac”.
Dvid Copperfield is suing the International Astronomy Union. He had planned to make Pulto disappear on a live network show, and now, “What’s the point”?
By The Book
August 25, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this
The FDA is considering approving a new “generation-after” pill, for mothers who see how poorly their grown children are behaving and suddenly change their minds about having them. It’s called Plan B-gone.
By harold
August 25, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this
Harold wants to know why Georgia Power isn’t providing our power for free by now. Under monopoly rule Georgians have been forced to subsidize the Southern Company’s expansion all over the world over the last few decades but still they keep raising our rates again and again. Where is our return on our investment? They should be giving us our power for free by now!
By Monarch Hames
August 25, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this
DeKalbs discriminatory cell phone law unfairly targets African-Americans especially African-American women. That Vernon Jones could instigate and support this attack on the rights of African Americans to communicate show clearly that he is in the pocket of the age-old white power structure that doesnt want persons of color sharing ideas and instead kept backwards and in servitude as we saw with the stealing of the election from Cynthia. Shame on Vernon Jones. Shame on the commissioners. Shame on DeKalb.
By The Way
August 25, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this
Last week, in middle august, 2006, a week that will live in infamy, Castro’s brother Raul used the combined air waves and cyber media forces to suddenly and deliberately threaten to attack the United States of America.
Castro’s other brother Raul went even further. He is conspiring to sell Americans exploding Cuban Cigars, and snuff us out with coffin nails.
Gag gifts and novelty items are more than enough geo-political justification for war. I say we invade before our entire country is covered in free-range rubber chickens.
We’ll stand down, when Raul sits down on his own whoopee cushion, (and then jumps up, totally surprised, cant wait!). Stay the course. Support the fruit loops.
By Brian Curtis
August 25, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this
Why doesn’t it surprise me that Wooten comes out in favor of a White House propaganda department? Maybe he doesn’t watch enough Fox “News” to realize they already have one.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this
Markus,
First, you say this is a conservative blog and wanted me to leave. Now you say, you are not done with me.
This blog it dishonest. If you look at all Jim’s topics today you will see a trend. It is never the consevatives fault about anything even though they are in total power. Jesse, appeasers, judge, blah, blah, blah. Never assume responsibilty for their actions.
Dean nails with his book in the wingnuts:
“Right Wing Authoritarians
Faulty reasoning — RWAs are more likely to:
2: Hostility Toward Outgroups — RWAs are more likely to:
3: Profound Character Flaws — RWAs are more likely to:
4: Blindness To One’s Own Failings And To The Failings Of Authority Figures whom They Respect— RWAs are more likely to:
RWA is also correlated with political conservatism — not so much at the level of ordinary voters, but with increasing strength as one moves from voters to activists to office holders, and then from lower to higher-level officeholders.
A clue for the wingnuts, ever problem is your problem that you can’t fix, so you blame others.
Do not worry, we will get some accountability and show you where you failed our country and make you pay for it.
By The Short Hairs
August 25, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this
If you think “Grumblings from Israeli soldiers” in newsworthy, then try this headline show stopper: “Disgruntled Hezbollah postal workers”.
When they snap, hit the deck!
By the sweet by and by
August 25, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this
States that have rolled back the helmet laws have downgraded “motorcycle riders” to “organ donors”.
By the sweet by and by
August 25, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this
The ambulances chase them. (unhelmeted motorcycle riders aka “organ donors”.)
By harold
August 25, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this
Ole Vernon in DeKalb done good but needs to make it so if you on any phone and run over a pedestrian or bicycler (even if they drunk) you the phone talking driver are guilty of a felonious aggravated misdemeanor and do some jail time in prison.
Harold can just see DeKalb drivers changing to satellite phones. Hey they aint cell phones. Cell phone Laws don’t apply.
By harold
August 25, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this
Did the motorcyclers catch up to the “rollover and play dead” SUV drivers (who aint playin by the way) yet?
It is too bad SUVs dont all have the lithium ion batteries. OR DO THEY? IN THE DVD PLAYER? BAHAHAHAHAHA.
Roll over and play dead and burst into flames. Ponch and John aint gonna save you!
By the sweet by and by
August 25, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this
Wars are lost in the translation from military action to battlefield reports. Thus, the South thought they won at Gettysburg, the headlines read, “Yankee’s lose 1500 during Pickett’s charge”. (true)
Thus in Iraq today, the headline is, “Hundreds of terrorists killed in nearly four years of Iraq war”. (true and that’s great, but 40K civilians have been killed too).
Cheney estimated that 2% of Iraqis are insurgents or terrorists. That’s over a half million people. He truly is a ridiculous man.
By harold
August 25, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this
Only 2% of Iraqis are insurgents or terrorists? According to Cheney and friends, 50% of US Citizens are insurgents or terrorists!
By the sweet by and by
August 25, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this
Newsflash: This just in. Women are no longer from the planet Venus, but they still have heavenly bodies.
A new category of woman is needed to classify facial hair freakazoids. (Kurdish and Italian-american women)
The International Astronomy Union has remaned Pluto. New name: Goofy.
By Harold
August 25, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this
Supposing Canada invaded to free us from Dictator Bush and set back up a Democracy. How many years of Canadian military rule with countless tens of thousands of civilian deaths per year would it take before you turned into an insurgent? It would not take Harold very long. That’s for sure.
The longer the US stays in Iraq, the more Iraqis will join the fight to expel the US. Oh, um, “the insurgency” is the term.
It’s really that simple!
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this
Good morning, all. Judge Taylor’s red meat for the moonbats may turn out to be poisonous for those who swallow. There is no doubt that the Appellate Court will overturn the decision, perhaps more due to the intemperate language than to the substance. The $64,000 question is whether the ACLU will be foolish enough to seek cert with the Supreme Court. I can just imagine what Scalia’s majority opinion will say.
By Van
August 25, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this
About 40 percent of the $111 billion allocated for Katrina recovery has been spent.
It looks like Louisiana is as inefficient after the hurricane as before. What is taking them so long to distribute the rebuilding money?
Could it be that the Governor of Lousiana is still having trouble making up her mind?
By Missy Rottweiler
August 25, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this
Energy capitalists have raped the environment and despoiled our lands and waterways for decades. Why shouldn’t they be required to give back what they have taken from nature’s children by finding ways to make use of the living, breathing energies of nature itself? Truly “An Inconvenient Truth ” for those who mock the efforts of environmentalist and truth sayers such as Al Gore and renewalists such as Shirley McLain who has led the fight in California for years.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this
Here is the horse they call Ann getting pummeled like I do to the wingnuts everyday
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
By sct
August 25, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this
Yes Cobb County is a self supporting city all to its self.
Why just this morning Cobb residents woke up to their own newspaper, The Cobb Journal and Constitution, opening up the editorial page you could read opinion from Jim Wooten and Mike King.
Turning to the sports pages you could read how The Cobb Crusaders defeated the New York Yankees at Cobb Stadium. Or read about the Cobb Traffic preparing for their next NFL pre-season game at the CobbDome. Read how the Cobb ChickenHawks were thinking of trading their star NBA center, along with a column by a CJC sportswriter demanding that the NBA start using the old ABA red white and blue basketball.
In the Metro section they updated us on the Cobb effort to get the 2016 Olympic games. There’s a story on all that traffic headed into Cobb every morning. We read a nice piece on how FoxNews wants Cobb to kick out CNN from their cable TV service.
The business section covered the on going ratings battle between the Cobb County ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox affiliates and how it affects ad dollars.
Yep its all their in Cobb. You are no longer a bedroom community. Whoops, I shouldn’t say bedroom.
By Van
August 25, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this
Missy Rottweiler,
You are wacky, cute but wacky.
Where does the power come from to power our factories, our buildings, the internet?
The US produces at least 25% of the worlds wealth, in goods and services.
As for Al Bore, how is his oil stock portfolio doing? What about his polluted zinc mine?
By The Morrigan
August 25, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this
I was about to get mad at Monarch, then realized he’s kidding. He IS kidding, right?
By Southern Democrat
August 25, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this
An update to yesterday’s posting:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401631.html
Have a great weekend, everyone!
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this
Getalife @ 8:17 publishes 400 words of name-calling, with no substance at all. His usual. If you’re merely planning to sling mud, do it efficiently, like Brian @ 8:16. That way we won’t waste time until the thoughtful leftists jump online.
Harold’s first actually poses a better economic question than we might think, worth an argument some time. The next two were funny, and the one after that was silly. The latest, @ 8:41, was the best. He explains the German insurgency against the US after 60 years of occupation. I sure the Canadians will pause (before invading) at the thought of Harold’s insurgency.
Dear Philosopher @ the opening, I may be able to give you some comfort on the tapping business. The long-standing tradition in law is that a wiretap without warrant is not admissible in a court of law. If we tolerate eavesdropping for the limited purpose of preventing attacks, we do not have to tolerate it as a source of admissible evidence. It works as a sort of a self-correcting reaffirmation of the right against warrantless “searches.”
By The Morrigan
August 25, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this
I was about to get mad at Monarch, then realized he’s kidding. He IS kidding, right?
By Missy Rottweiler
August 25, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this
Instead of slinging arrows like some, we can all do our part to sponsor renewable resources. For example, just like you don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, neither should you throw the kitty litter out with the cat feces. I have found that kitty litter can be recycled up to 35 times and then used as an effective mulch barrier around plants to discourage small vegetarian animals from eating them. Be sure and leave out some fresh greens as well as “alternative” food source to your plants. If we all try, we can make a difference down to the smallest of us all.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw,
Your party is responsible for everything. The buck stops with the wingnuts. Deal with it.
Failure.
It makes my day to watch the GOP running for their political lives on Iraq.
You broke it now fix it!
By the sweet by and by
August 25, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this
I was driving behind this car that was weaving and not paying attention and I noticed a cell phone stuck in the drivers ear so I got real mad and pulled up even with the driver and looked in his window to give him the finger but stopped short when I realized that he didn’t have a cellphone to his ear, he simply just had a deformed head and man did I feel bad. He just shrugged at me like he gets “that” all the time. I soaked my head when I got home that day in the toilet for two hours. I still feel bad. It happened seven years ago and I just cant shake this feeling that I’m a bad man.
By Rep. Shays
August 25, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this
Hi guys. I dont really mean all the poo reported in the Washington Post. The truth is I’m struggling to get re-elected so I changed horses midstream hoping it will give me some hope of winning. I’m actually rolling the dice because I’m not 100% certain the voters actually want the US to withdraw from Iraq. I’m hoping my gamble pays off, because I’m really too old to find a real job. As far as principles, morals, or sticking to ones convictions, hell, the President is the only one dumb enough to do that!
Visit Connecticut!
By sct
August 25, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this
Cobb has some great restaurants also, there was a review of this gem in todays CJC.
McDonalds on Cobb Parkway
Today I’m reviewing a very original restaurant its called McDonalds. They serve traditional American food at Conservative prices. Its great, although there was no valet the parking lot was very clean. They even had a lane that let you place your order at a window then drive around and pick up your food, pretty fancy.
I elected to go inside. What a treat that was. After a short wait I placed my order. The service was fast and they even said thank you.
The first thing I tried was a two-tiered hamburger. It had 2 all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onion on a sesame seed bun. Scrumptous. I ordered it with no onion and was assured that “special orders don’t upset us”. Again great service.
Overall 3 out of 4 stars, my only complaint was that my ketchup pack wouldn’t open easily. When I finally got it to open ketchup spewed everywhere, thank goodness Juan was quick with the mop. Oh and make sure you try the Freedom Fries, they are to die for.
Next week I’ll change gears and review the Wendy’s on Cobb Parkway. (I hear they have a triple decker hamburger.)
By Redneck Convert
August 25, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this
I don’t have a lot of time, but I want to comment on the nuts who expect me to wear one of those sissy helmets when I’m riding my chopper. All I got to say is they’ll take my right to ride my Harley away when they scrape my flattened skull off the pavement. If God didn’t want us to ride choppers without helmets, he wouldn’t have allowed us to invent choppers in the first place and we would have been born with steel-lined heads.
Besides, riding a motorcycle is good for you. My drinking buddy Jim Earl got cured of being speechless when he hit a curb on his chopper and wound up putting his head through the wall of a BBQ joint. His first words when he came to were “Stay the course,” and from then on I couldn’t shut him up. He bought one of those word books and started using fifty-dollar word bombs like TFTT does. I accused him of being TFTT, but he denies it, and I guess Jim Earl ain’t that nutty.
Course, it’s different when Jim Earl is drunk. Then, he raves like Markus and Ugotta and Realist, and nobody can make sense of what he says.
I say get rid of the small cars. They are hard to see, especially late at night when I have a snoot full of Pabst Blue Ribbon and am trying to find my way home. Also, get rid of bicycles on the highway. I’m tired of being held up during rush hour by some pencil-neck geek in tight panties out on his $3000 bicycle and holding up traffic. Sometimes, I dream of putting my Dodge Ram hood thingy square in the rear end of one of those people and seeing how long a field goal I could make with the guy.
Anyway, I’ve got to go to WalMart to buy a new pair of white socks for Sunday services. The ones I have are getting pretty gamy, and we don’t wash clothes here at the trailer till the end of the month. I don’t want to miss church on Sunday because it’s “values day,” where we go light on stuff like helping the poor and loving your neighbor and get right into the meat of the Bible: hating liberals and everything they stand for, while we are supporting the death penalty. Also, we are all for stopping this sex and abortions and women’s lib. If God had wanted us to have sex … well, never mind.
By Harold
August 25, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this
Well, the Germans were not on the brink of Civil War before the invasion. The US is getting closer with each blog posting. Also, the Germans actually did something bad/wrong, so they were probably a little less indignant about being invaded and reconstructured. Lastly, they were invaded and reconstructured by people who look similar and employ the same religion, so it was easier to take. Now, the Candians do look similar to US folks and probably share similar religious holdings, but all the “eh?”s would no doubt light a very short fuse.
By James
August 25, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this
Until Cobb COUNTY has individual cities that has a population that does not commute to work in Atlanta, a college that does not depend on Georgia Tech dropouts (Southern Polytechnic State), companies that come to Marrietta, Smyrna, Lithia Springs, Kennesaw to draw from that CITY’S talent and surrounding cities, Cobb COUNTY will always be in the suburbs of Atlanta. If you don’t understand my stressing of County versus City then leave urban planning to the those that do, Jim.
The Engineer has spoken
By the sweet by and by
August 25, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this
To the editors of the AJC: What was that article yesterday about Barack Obama’s bipartisan bill to open up the bidding for Iraqi reconstruction contracts to the general public getting torpedoed by an anonymous secret ballot from an anonymous secret clique in our legislature?
We have totally lost our country. Totally. A silent coup. How can a story like that not have legs, unless the AJC is a part of the vast right wing conspiracy?
Shame on the AJC. Shame on us for not grabbing our country back. Impeach Bush. Take Cheney, please.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this
One out four Americans blog here
By Filthy Consuckers
August 25, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this
Their god is Mars.
Their religion is war.
By sct
August 25, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this
Here’s a story from the CJC Living section.
Its time to stop the wrecking ball! Greedy developers are bulldozing over some of Cobb’s great landmarks. We need a committee of architects to determine what buildings are worth saving.
Folks, the reason for concern is they want to tear down one of Cobbs all time classics, the old Wal-Mart on Cobb Parkway. This is a show case of old Cobb County and its big box architecture. Charm and grace are the only way to describe this masterpiece. Wal-Mart blue is etched into everyones childhood memories. Every time I pass that place it brings back memories of cheap plastic.
Please don’t let them get away with this. The next thing you know they will be pointing that wrecking ball in the direction of our all-time majestic architectural landmark, the Big Chicken. Please help save the Big Box. Help save Cobb County’s great architecture, before its too late!
By Van
August 25, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this
Missy Rottweiler,
You are wacky, cute but wacky.
Where does the power come from to power our factories, our buildings, the internet?
The US produces at least 25% of the worlds wealth, in goods and services.
As for Al Bore, how is his oil stock portfolio doing? What about his polluted zinc mine?
By Monarch Hames
August 25, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this
Moriigan the Smart boy, Vernon Jones has done nothing but put his foot with shoes paid for by the white power structure on the ears of people of color. Next it will be on the mouth. Then the eyes. Just like the whites in this county see non-whites.
By Harold
August 25, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
Wow it sounds like some folk aint been to Cobb since the 1980s. That was 25 years ago “y’all.”
The Cumberland/Galleria business district is already bigger than the downtown atlanta bidness district and keeps on budling new towers.
Oh an didnt the Atlanta Opera or whatever just relocate there?
Hey at least downtown has some fish tanks.
Maybe they can wash the homeless in them after people lose interest in looking at fish.
Look what Cobb has done with the washign pool at White Water! Leaky diapers Harold’s arse.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
No matter what we do in Iraq, they will still support Iran.
By harold
August 25, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this
Apparently the engineer aint never heared of Kennesaw State University, 2nd in numbers only to UGA (for now), but definitely having a better education than UGA already.
And Southern Tech doesnt have Ga Tech dropouts. Southern Tech is about 50% foreign students. The others, teh locals, are fat old nerdy networking/phone tech guys attending computer classes at night.
Ga Tech dropouts dont go to other schools. They just give up.
By Van
August 25, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this
I see that the religion of peace (this one for you Missy) has struck again.
President Pervez Musharraf has opened a new and especially bitter confrontation with radical Islam by trying to rewrite Pakistan’s controversial rape laws. link here
I guess Islam hasn’t got the memo from NAG headquarters(National Association of Gals).
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this
Missy @ 9:12, you will be horrified to know I agree with you. We recycle in our house, and similarly reuse the kitty litter. Drives our dogs crazy.
When you environmentalists solicit “small” or local effort, you have me on your side every time.
By CBF
August 25, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
Monarch Hames: “DeKalbs discriminatory cell phone law unfairly targets African-Americans especially African-American women” - gimme a break! Anyway thanks, that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day!
By sct
August 25, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this
Harold, if you take a look at today’s Cobb Journal and Constitution you will see an editorial from Mike King demanding that the Atlanta Opera be re-named the Cobb Opera.
Cobb’s Fox4 newscast is also doing a story on it.
By James
August 25, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this
Maybe Harold can explain (in 3rd person of course) which one City all of those places he named are located? And why AM I-75 south traffic is the worst traffic rivaled only by I-85 South traffic? Are these commuter only traveling within the city of Marrietta, maybe Lithia Springs..oh..they are headed to Smyrna to all work at the Galleria business district, because Harold knows traffic congestion stops at the 285 merge.
By James
August 25, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this
Harold knows Urban Planning
By Missy Rottweiler
August 25, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this
Peace is the world’s religion, Van. If people would spread its message instead of hate and mockery, then the rest of the world might see us in a different light.
By James
August 25, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this
James did not intend to offend Megalopolis Cobb County resident Harold.
By JK
August 25, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten says: “The administration and the military should do everything legal, moral and ethical to influence the media — here and around the world.”
Did I wake up in China this morning? Cuba? Saudi Arabia, maybe? Geeeeezzussss Aiche! The GOVERNMENT should control the media now? Like they haven’t alreay spent enough of OUR $tax$ dollar$ paying “reporters” to pass goverment PR as “news?” (Armstrong Williams) Exactly which “American values” do you stand for, again, Mr. Wooten? That was rhetorical. I’m not staying around to read this nonsense today.
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this
JK @ 10:11 poses an odd conundrum, he opposes our government doing anything “legal, moral, and ethical” to influence the media here and around the world. The alternative - to not correct lies told - is patently foolish. To embrace a leftist mythical hypothetical, if Swift Boat veterans make false statements against John Kerry, should Kerry not respond?
I disagree with JK’s theory of governance.
By sct
August 25, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
Harold, how is the upcoming Kennesaw St football season looking?
By harold
August 25, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this
Them folks on I-75 are from cheroky and bartow and paulding mostly on their way to cumberland/galleria.
the cobb folk use 41 and powers ferry to get to cumberland galleria. and Harold guess some use johnson ferry and work over at Dunwoody city.
traffic on i-75 south of the river is normally nonexistent until the dowtown connector backup
By Talon News
August 25, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
Did someone say moral?
Jeff…..O~O
By harold
August 25, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this
the Kennesaw State University football team remains undefeated!
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this
The NSA survelliance is a life saving necessity, how predictable that ACLU nazis oppose it purely for ignorant Bush hate political reasons. It will be overturned - and watching them all choke on that higher ruling in TV studios will be hilarious.
Lets hope that disgraced B Campbell really enjoys his first weekend in long overdue captivity.
Isn’t it great without McKinney slithering around on our TV screens for a whole week.
The bigot school bus Nagin needs to relieve his chocolate city of his utter incompetence and resign. And then take a job as an unskilled day labourer in NYC rebilding 9/11 damage as a penance for his petulant pettiness.
Maybe Campbell, McKinney and Nagin should be the black competitors on the race based Survivor … NOPE, nearly forgot, law enforcement have a greater need for access!!
Sct needs to find a place to eat that consistently delivers mild e-coli. And then invite Brainless terrorism is a police matter Curtis and getalobotomisedbrain to eat with him. That will be sufficient punishment for inflicting such execrable drivel on the rest of us.
Rednekkks shouldn’t ever wear a helmet, a seat belt, goggles, a (filter) mask, protective gloves etc. Indeed Rednekkks should defy every single safety regulation and measure ever invented or instigated and just allow physics and the will of Allah to reward the rest of us!!
Looks like Harold’s limp wristed bath house activities of a few years ago have finally rotted what’s left of his brain!!
To the bigoted black female moron who insanely racebaits about cell phone use - that was bloody hilarious you silly moo now HANG UP AND DRIVE!!
Just been down to my local Petsmart - looks like a real obsessive nutter has been spending way too much time there. The store parrot now keeps squawking BUSH LIED! BUSH LIED! BUSH LIED!
Think maybe I’ll teach the parrot something useful: NEWT FOR PRESIDENT! NEWT FOR PRESIDENT! NEWT FOR PERSIDENT!
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this
Peace is the world’s religion, If people would spread its message instead of hate and mockery, then the rest of the world might see us in a different light.
Keep drinking that appeasing kool aid Missy. You’ll end up somewhere near Harold’s level then. I kind of wonder if harold is actually unhinged foreskin in disguise!!
By harold
August 25, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this
Harold does wish there was a train for the people from Bartow and Cheroky and Cobb too, but the scared bigots only left Cobb in the 1990s. Some of the scared bigots gained power and stay there to retain that power. It will take another 10 years for them to die/retire and then the train will show up and people use take the train to the cumberland/galleria area or heck even maybe work in downtown atlanta again like in the old days! For now there is no reason to endure the painful commute to downtown altanta unless you are an incompetent boob and have to work at whatever palce is dumb enought to hire you.
By Van
August 25, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this
Missy Rottweiler
Sounds like Jimmy Carter again -
Shall I spread the wonders of peace as they kill more Americans?
Shall I spread the joys of Peace while the Radicals stone women who have been raped and can’t produce 4 pious men as witnesses?
Shall we lay down our arms as the enemy invades our Country?
How about you going over into the middle east and have all the people there lay down their arms(jew, christian and muslim), hold hands and sing pretty songs.
Remember,
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of god.
By JK
August 25, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw would like the government to create yet another federal agency because he believes the Federal Government is not big nor far-reaching enough as it is. The Federal Government should babysit this rapidly aging, star-struck, alzheimers-afflicted entity once known as the AMERICAN FREE PRESS. The Federal Government, despite grossly mismanaging our collective national finances, should go even farther into debt to hire thousands of people to oversee rouge journalists, to ensure they only report “information” officially sanctioned by the Federal Government.
As someone who believes in fiscal responsibility, and that the first amendment is at least as important as the second, I disagree with jbmlaw’s theory of governance.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this
Well, Jim is part of the media and he blames everything on everybody but the people in power.
He is another failed American.
By deegee
August 25, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this
Here’s a moral, legal and ethical way for Bush to influence the media - take the hint that the military has been sending you for years.
Conservatives should always oppose any creative effort that ordinary citizens may take in order to reduce dependance on foreign oil. Such nonsense might keep US taxpayers from paying for the fight against terrorism at the same time we are financing it through our purchase of Middle Eastern oil. Asking taxpayers to help power companies like Georgia Power that already have green power programs to expand and enhance them is nothing but frivolous social spending and inconsistent with conservative values.
By harold
August 25, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this
if “the NSA survelliance is a life saving necessity,” like a seatbelt, name one life it has saved. it must have saved one by now!
everybody knows somebody who has been saved by a seatbelt, but nobody knows anybody who has been saved by NSA surveillance.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
Cobb County is going to the dogs Harold … the sleaziness is getting really bad on the south/eastern side and they have paid security guards in certain WalMarts now - we all of course wonder why that is??
By Nate
August 25, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this
Perhaps its not the appeasers that weakens the U.S. but inept execution of wars that spreads our military thin which limits our ability to use force or the threat of force to influence other nations.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this
all those folks on the planes that were going to be attacked this month harold by your darling little freedom hating racist terrorists … that’s 3000 plus names already!!
By getalife
August 25, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this
Israel is trying to hold their government accountable for the failed planning in Lebanon.
Too bad Americans are okay with the “stay the course” failure.
Sigh.
By Mike
August 25, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this
Well stated Nate.
By harold
August 25, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this
What are you talkin’ about? NSA didnt save anybody on any planes, foo’. That was Samnuel Jackson (the next 007 by the by) and it was in the UK and Pakkistan.
And those were not AEROplanes from Ireland to Estonia, so it is not freedom the terrorists hate! It is something else. Perhaps they hate the oppression by the USA and UK since the 1940s, huh.
By harold
August 25, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
Q: What was the last command of the Titantic’s captain?
A: Icebergs Schmicebergs. Stay the course!!!
By getalife
August 25, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
No Nate,
Everything is the appeaser’s fault in the mind of the wingnuts.
Nevermind they are in power and the appeasers have no power.
We can blog though and point out the obvious failures.
By James
August 25, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this
Harold,
So your argument is that Smyrna is the Metro City and all surronding CITIES in Cobb, Bartow, Cherokee..are commuting to the hub that is Smyrna?
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this
the NSA survelliance harold is NOT geographically limited to the fruited plain (fruited term deliberately used to make you feel good about the USA). Your imbecilic ignorance is only surpassed by your willingess to hatefully simper at everything your country has selfessly provided you with. YOU harold are a limp wristed ingrate!! Now go play with the ghetto traffic on Cobb Parkway!!
By Van
August 25, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this
Nate,
“…our ability to use force or the threat of force to influence other nations.”
Interesting concept, where have we done this in the past or currently?
We do not use our military to influence other nations. We use our ability to keep our word to influence other nations. Just like France with its promise of 5000 troops for the peace keeping force in Lebanon, suddenly changes it mind and then promised 400. We took France at their word and they stabbed us, now to keep from looking more french, they are sending another 1600.
This is an example of keeping your word, France hasn’t done it and they are a laughing stock.
By harold
August 25, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this
Bush is as useful a leader as is that motivational poster on the wall in the office breakroom.
“working together means winning together”
yeah, at bush’s dead friend Lay’s ENRON too right?
By deegee
August 25, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this
Van, did you read the whole article about the rape laws? I’m not defending them but Western diplomats are pressuring Musharraf to change them even when there is little support among his people for change. The guy has survived 3 assasination attempts already and he may be our best chance for success there. Why don’t you go over there and hold hands with Musharraf and sing kumbaya?
By Brian
August 25, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
‘everybody knows somebody who has been saved by a seatbelt, but nobody knows anybody who has been saved by NSA surveillance’
I sure am glad harold is out there preaching the good word of the wacky libs. Good grief can these people be more out of touch with anything? Harold, the lib experiment that went terribly wrong, obviously hasn’t kept up with current events. The left doesn’t know where they are going, doesn’t know where they’ve been, and will be the first to blame the current administration on anything going wrong in stopping terrorism on our own soil. So let it be said, so let it be a warning.
By harold
August 25, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this
No james, it is Wooten’s argument that Cobb is its own place. And it is. Sit by the river and count the cars headed downtown in the morning vs cars headed different directions. Harold would esimate these days more people living in downtown Atlanta commute out to the galleria for work than vice versa. downtown is on the downswing for offices, but on the huge upswing for condos filled with gays!!!! eventually they’ll get tired of the reverse commute and companies will start moving back into downtown but for now company after company is evacuating. maybe after the sewers are paid for?
By James
August 25, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this
Monarch Hames: “DeKalbs discriminatory cell phone law unfairly targets African-Americans especially African-American women”
James thinks Monarch is niether Female nor African-American. Even though I do think they can be the rudest drivers on the rode, I know from experience (my company operates the DOT traffic cams)that White Female SUV drivers are the most cell phone while driving culprits in the Metro.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
deegee’s idiocy is stupendous!! Any attempt at change is very welcome and long overdue. The story I read in the Telegraph last night stated that the change will actually be passed, despite fanatical mohammedan opposition. Instead of sneering like a very nasty feminazi why not actually support Musharraf in his efforts to stop systematic abuse of innocent women. He has already SUCCESSFULLY changed the bail laws for women held on similarly oppressive mohammedan laws charged with such heinous crimes as adultery.
By Reece
August 25, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this
I am officially changing the name of this right wing nutjob blog-o-fest to..drum roll please..The Friday Wootenanny!
By harold
August 25, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this
This country has selfessly provided Harold with nothign. That is called welfare and Harold has not been on the gubment dole. Harold buys his own cheese.
About seucirty guards at walmart. waht brong that on? Well, having a Walmart did. Duh.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this
Harold concedes by the usual simpering silence that he was WRONG about NSA surveillance on the aeroplane plot … well done harold - when verbally kicked on here at least you fess up - unlike many others.
No harold, utterly wrong again - its the change in shoplifting clientele that Walmart expericenced in certain parts of ghettoised Cobb County.
By Producer
August 25, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this
Someone mentioned Bill Campbell’s first weekend in jail. I’ll bet he’s cowering in the corner terrified that late at night he’ll hear the six most terrifying words in the English language: “You look jus’ like a hawg…” Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving guy!!
By Liberal
August 25, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this
Counting the cars that cross the Lester Maddox bridge into Cobb County is not my idea of fun Harold.
Cobb County is its own place, but IT IS STILL A SUBURB. I have never heard anybody in any other part of the country say that I’m flying into Cobb. Cobb County’s name is not part of the airport’s name, nor will it ever be (that is unless Atlanta elected a mayor named Cobb). The Cobb Chamber of Commerce considers Cobb as part of metro Atlanta. The Vinings area has Atlanta addresses. I can go on and on. Cobb is a suburb, Cobb is a suburb, Cobb is a suburb…
By deegee
August 25, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this
The rape and abuse of women and children anywhere in the world is horrible. It’s even more sickening when Western perverts like John Mark Karr will travel to Asian nations and freely and openly engage in atrocities that are illegal and immoral in their country of origin.
By harold
August 25, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
Liberal must not realize that the 2nd busiest airport in all of Georgia is McCollum Field in Cobb, and Liberal must not know anybody with a private plane, because that’s where the private planes go. ATL/Hartsfield is full of the dumb masses who have to ride commercial planes with the terrorists. It is basically the public transit airport.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this
Liberal …
This morning I am chartering a small aeroplane to fly into Cobb. There now - problem solved!!
By getalife
August 25, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this
And now for a commercial break
By harold
August 25, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this
Harold goes to his favorite place, Helen GA, more often than he goes to downtown Atlanta. Proximity and association are two different entities, except that they’re not really entities because they are kind of abstract.
Sure, TFTT, the aeroplane plot was foiled by the NSA. The UK’s NSA. What-evah.
By Van
August 25, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this
deegee ,
You did not read the article, He is trying to change the law to save women who have been raped - I mean commited adultery based on Koranic texts and sharia law, but the radical islamic nut jobs are opposed to the change.
If this kind of radicalism is allowed to fester, no telling where it will end.
By Misty
August 25, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this
Now that Vernon is prepared to penalize those drivers on their cell phones, can he do something about the ear phones that everybody is wearing?
When I’m out in public, I get the eerie feeling that I’m surrounded by a bunch of schizophrenics. Either that, or I’m responding to a question that was never intended for me.
They’re ridiculous and discredit anybody’s complaint on the government listening in. The whole world is being forced to listen to conversations that are of no interest to us.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
This country has selfessly provided Harold with nothign.
thank you for your brutal honesty Harold - this country didn’t even provide you with an education, as we endlessly see on here.
BTW - isn’t your 30 min session on the Marietta public libary computers up by now? Dont bogart that PC Harold - rednekkks needs to post some more anti-white folks bile!!
By sct
August 25, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
Why just this month it was reported in the Cobb Journal and Constitution business section that Cousins Properties is moving their headquarters from Cobb to Downtown Atlanta.
By Van
August 25, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Missy,
How would you deal with the Hudood Ordinance in Pakistan?
I know, embrace the judge and wish him peace.
By James
August 25, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Harold,
PDK is the 2nd busiest airport in Georgia.
By harold
August 25, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this
harold only has to get up and move to a differnt computer when time’s up as long as nobody is waiting. as long as harolds farts enough, nobody is waiting.
sct it is called the marietta daily journal no the cobb constituation
By harold
August 25, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
james you right about pdk. harold’s apolgoies
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this
wrong again Harold … The UK GCHQ (British NSA equivalent) - at Cheltenham in Gloucestershire does NOT have the huge technological super computer reach that the USA’s NSA does.
Funny isn’t it Harold, you make ultra dumb assertions and then when factually challenged you often back down … that shows you have some spine Harold!! not much - but some. Getatinybrain needs to take a leaf out of your book Harold.
By harold
August 25, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
the UK GCHQ did not need a super computer. they needed only their mole in the terrorist organization.
By sct
August 25, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this
The only airline serving the Cobb airport with non-stop service is Rapture Airlines. Book now they are filling up fast. (One-way only)
By harold
August 25, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this
harold makes ultra dumb assertions and then when factually challenged he often backs down
if only the current adminstration would take a lesson from harold!
By deegee
August 25, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this
Nothing makes my blood boil faster than somebody calling me a suburbanite. I’m your freakin neighbor and if you don’t like it meet me behind the old Walmart on Cobb Parkway.
http://health.msn.com/centers/highbloodpressure/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100142599
By Liberal
August 25, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
Harold,
At my old job, the CEO of the company kept his private jets at Charlie Brown Field in Atlanta. It’s okay to admit that Cobb is a suburb. Yes, it’s a self-governing entity, etc, however it’s part of the Atlanta region and it DOES depend on Atlanta.
…and Harsfield is not merely a “public transit airport”, it’s the busiest airport in the world!
…also, isn’t public flatulence banned in Cobb County, Harold?
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
the authorities need the wiretaps harold to provide evidence and intelligence on terrorists - moles are useful - but cannot 24/7 cover a twenty plus person cell that was operating in numerous places in and around London and the home counties
see how lame your points often are harold!!
By Redneck Convert
August 25, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
I’m back from WalMart with a brand-spanking new pair of white socks. As the song says, “Rednecks, white socks, and Blue Ribbon Beer.”
For the life of me, I don’t see why Atlanta has anything to do with the rest of us any more. Nobody goes there—it’s too crowded. As long as the MARTA trains and buses don’t bring Those People out here where I live, I’m happy to let Atlanta be. Businesses that keep locating their offices in Atlanta are missing out on a lot of good employees—like me.
For that matter, too much of Cobb County is becoming a lot like Atlanta. Snooty restaurants, crowded roads, and uppity people are all over the place. I don’t see the difference, except for Kennesaw. Thank God for a place that forces people to own guns. Everybody should have a gun and be able to blast away whenever there’s the slightest threat or a strong disagreement. It’s the American way.
Anyway, I see that Harold is getting all edgy and looking at his watch, so I’ll have to leave this computer for a while.
By James
August 25, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this
Deegee,
Suburbanite
By getalife
August 25, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this
Lets get this party started America!
By Liberal
August 25, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this
Degree,
I guess we better meet behind that Walmart before it becomes one of those typical suburban store-front churches.
By James
August 25, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this
Look Cobb County apologists
A county cannot be a neighbor to a city only another county. So to say you are Fulton County’s neighbor you are correct. But your cities are Atlanta’s suburbs…unless Smyrna’s or Marrietta’s population increased last night. Or the majority of your work force all of a sudden started working in one Cobb county city.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this
Rednekkks finally posts something that mostly actually makes sense - except for the deranged bit about being a good employee. But just about everything else makes eminent sense rednekkks … jolly well done indeed - you are finally attempting to join the real world after all these years!!
WELCOME
By Missy Rottweiler
August 25, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this
People are free to make laws. People are free not to obey them if the laws violate basic human rights. Time will tell the outcome. “Do not rush to judgment lest you find it is you being judged” A. Bartel
By getalife
August 25, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
Wal-Mart are pinkos
By Van
August 25, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this
Redneck Convert,
Humor aside, I do agree with you - maybe.
Atlanta is the home of the flaming liberal, a UN blue city. Inside the perimeter is the home of all those that think Al Gore and John kerry are true red blooded Americans and did not see a think wrong with lying under oath when it is about sex.
The rest of Georgia for the most part is a very red state.
Downtown is so out of touch with the rest of America, I say venture inside I-285 at your own risk.
By Liberal
August 25, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this
Van,
I don’t know if I agree with your assessment. Most of the sex-shops seem to be located OTP…
By getalife
August 25, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this
This just in……………….
Van is an idiot.
Now, back to your regularly GOP programming.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
People are free to make laws HA HA HA HA
the point sistah, is that most of the world is NOT free to make laws. Most of the world lives under some level of dictatorship/oppression. Therefore whilst its true in a moral sense that (some) bad laws can/should be opposed, modern communist regime and current mohammedan sharia laws are amongst the vilest ever perpetrated and if you attempted to challenge them you would be perhaps stoned to death in Iran or suffer some equally vile fate. Obviously you run into the problem of who deems such laws to be good or bad and worthy of opposition.
Stick to the Frisco kool aid, have an ‘E’ and chill out some more!!
By Hadden Knough
August 25, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
True about Atlanta, Van, but I live 3 miles from downtown and loved annoying my neighbors with my re-elect Bush yard sign for most of 2004 and into 2005.
By Van
August 25, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
Liberal,
You mean the ones on Peidmont and Cheshire Bridge are not inside the perimeter?
By Nate
August 25, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this
Ammendment to my comment.
Part of any negotiations with a country we are at odds with is the threat of force. When the threat of force is taken away, because our hands are tied in Iraq and elsewhere, our enemies know it and become empowered. When they know that the threat of force (whether we make it or it is inferred by the other side) is not there, they are far more willing to stand up to us. Iran knows we’re bogged down in Iraq and don’t have the military means to invade so they’re far more willing to stand up to us. Especially since our current administration is incapable of executing diplomatic negotiations.
By Seriously
August 25, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this
Liberal, don’t forget divorce, them Red States, and counties like Cobb are the leaders in immoral divorce that Jesus considered an abomination.
By Liberal
August 25, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this
Those are, but the ones on Roswell Road are not. And let’s not forget about the many “Cafe Risque” billboards along the interstate in wholesome rural Georgia.
Bible belt my a$$…more like the Garter Belt.
By Liberal
August 25, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this
Seriously,
…and let’s not forget the higher teenage pregnancy rates in the Red States.
By Van
August 25, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
Missy,
People are free not to obey them if the laws violate basic human rights.
What kind of looney world do you live in?
And just who decides what “basic human rights” are?
You will have to explain a lot on this statement.
By sct
August 25, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this
How about the rural and suburban meth problem?
By getalife
August 25, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Ding, ding, ding.
Nate gets the point.
Jim is scared of Iran getting nukes.
Tighten up Jim, it will happen.
Think about this, bin Laden would love to get nukes and he maybe in Pakistan trying to kill their leader so he can get his hands on the nukes.
And w does not think about bin Laden. He is fishing with cut and run daddy.
By Markus
August 25, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this
Harold is now a COMPLETE IDIOT as well as a flat out LIAR!
“August 25, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
Liberal must not realize that the 2nd busiest airport in all of Georgia is McCollum Field in Cobb,”
NO it’s not, peabrain liberal. Its KPDK. LOOK IT UP genius liberal aviator wannabe. Your dumb@ss self couldn’t fly a kite.
By Markus
August 25, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this
Getlost-
First of all, nowhere did I EVER say I really wanted you off this forum. If you think one of my nicknames for you references that, then you liberals are even more spineless than I thought.
Second of all, I don’t give a dressed up pig what Howard Scream says. He means nothing to me. I have ZERO support for him, even below that of either Bill or Hillary Clinton… and that’s not saying much. I find the loon left liberals in this nation reprehensible, conducive against how we fight terrorism at every turn, Since you have posted your BS wingnut ideas of the day, I’ll return the favor… soon. That said, you have proved to me that you are not worth any real time, what little of it I have here.
I do however love you whackjob loonbat liberals being here though, because it sure exposes the lurkers here of where you jackasses on the kook fringe left really stand on issues like national security.
Oh, and we aren’t worried about Iran, idiot. Israel will take care of them just like they did 25 years ago… just like when you bedwetters on the left cried about Israel then.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this
Here comes the bully Markus.
Why so angry Markus?
Are you on meth and feel like superman?
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
JK @ 10:31 accurately demonstrates moonbat reasoning – no need for facts, don’t bother with actual ideas of those you debate, just spew. I urge all to re-read his post and refer back to my 10:18 item that provoked the bizarre rant.
You guys are giving the respectable leftists a bad name. Please keep it up – November looms large, and your ideas are our only hope of frightening the reasonable middle back into our camp.
Dear Liberal @ 11:29 and Markus @ 12:08, ease up on Harold. I know my compatriot TFTT is not amused, but I like Harold’s posts. He generally reflects a gentle humor, and occasionally flashes something clever.
Dear Redneck @ 11:29, you frighten me. I fully agree – surely your effort was mere parody of my view?
By Markus
August 25, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
You picked and you prodded, getalife. In short, the bear woke up and got tired of an annoying gnat like you.
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
And Markus, don’t waste you time as you did at 12:10. The guy is not worth the bother - he only spews.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
Van … surely laws perpetrating apartheid in SA were certainly ‘worth’ opposing. Laws enforced by a vicious mohammedan or commie dictatorship aimed at killing/oppressing folks - like say the christian minority in E Timor and the Tibetans were/are also worth opposing. Just because its a law doesn’t mean it has to be reflexively obeyed - although obviously in many countries the needs of self preservation kick in at some point.
Iranians consistently flout the no satellite TV dish law - another law aimed at preventing free speech/ideas and dissemination of (populist) culture.
Its too much of blanket thang to just say ALL laws should be scrupulously upheld. The laws against jews in Nazi Germany being another insidious example.
But I agree Missy’s asinine, hippyish statement is puerile, ill defined and poorly though out and deserves to be robustly challenged. And certainly as a principle one shouldn’t EVER get to the point where one picks and chooses the laws you obey. But that’s the luxury of living in a democracy - certain rights and responsibilities etc balance out one’s hard fought freedoms.
By Van
August 25, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
Nate,
Where is this show of force with the UN, where all “negotiations” are taking place?
The negoiations with Iran, with Iraq and Lebanon before this last dust-up - where are the threats of force?
By Markus
August 25, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
Yeah I know jbmlaw. I won’t get sucked into a diatribe with that sad case of the anti-conservative herpies.
Point taken on the other issue.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this
Here is a clue for you Markus.
First, meth kills.
The gop is in total power and do not listen to the people, especially the liberals.
The buck stops with the gop.
We just point out the obvious insanity and failures.
Get off the dope, failure.
By harold
August 25, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this
sorry markus, it’s the 2nd busiest private airport.
you have to count that public transit air station that the unwashed used for it to be #3
By Monarch Hames
August 25, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this
To all, Rights are being taken and replaced by new laws like Vernons. When Cynthia is gone and Bill is gone, rights will be gone.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this
Can someone please translate “lies” rubbish to something we can read?
Does anybody read that crap?
BTW, ICE maybe visiting you. Fear not, they do not enforce the laws for illegal immigrants.
By James
August 25, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this
Monarch Hames,
Are you a “Black, Female, Congresswoman”?
By Markus
August 25, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this
getlost-
If ANYONE here needs to check their meds, it’s YOU. You apparently have no job, no life, no friends, no family, and no social outlet other than this blog where you can expose your jackass neomarxist pig liberal ideologies that you think are your God. If this blog were on 7x24, you’d be on here for at LEAST 16 of those daily hours. You are a failure of your own sad, pathetic, miserable life, and this is your only outlet. But of course, that’s why you are no more than a liberal. We conservatives don’t make you spend 8 hours a day, 7 days a week here. Sad.
By Markus
August 25, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this
Harold-
Unlike getalife, I respect your apology, although getalife doesn’t have the character or spine to own up when it’s wrong. You have mine in jumping on you so hard. I won’t do it again.
By Harold
August 25, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this
Even Metro Atlanta’s most internationally world reknowned famous celebrity stays in Cobb!
By getalife
August 25, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this
Markus,
Wrong again methman. I post at many blogs.
Get over it and again, get off the dope.
By harold
August 25, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
Oh, thanky Markus. You alright.
By Missy Rottweiler
August 25, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
Sounds like everyone can stand to share from a world-sized cup of herbal green tea over lunch. I’m buying!
By Harold
August 25, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this
So anyway Harold just had a thought about how to make aviation safer. Forget about restricting liquids and shoes and that silliness.
What’s needed is more busses!
It is a known fact that terrorists cannot help blowing themselves up on busses.
We have a serious bus shortage here. If we got more busses, the terrorists would take care of themselves! (and the poor, too! bonus!)
By Markus
August 25, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this
Calling all Katrina news watchers in a few days! Please use this checklist when watching the media portray Katrina victims and check “yes” or “no” next to them:
o Did they talk about those in Mississippi who are still living in FEMA trailers who never got relocated to comfy hotels and $2,000 checkcards?
o Did they talk about why so many poor people outside of New Orleans were able to figure out a way out prior to the hurricane coming?
o Did they talk about the Federal government being a 3rd response to disasters behind state and local authorities?
o Did they talk about the corruption of the New Orleans politicians and police department?
o Did they talk about crime shooting up 25% in Houston in the months after evacuees were sent there?
o Did they talk about all those Gucci bags, booze, and prostitutes that were bought with those $2,000 debit cards?
o Did they talk about why Katrina evacuees are STILL without jobs while being spread out ALL OVER the nation?
Stay tuned for page 2…
By Jaxson
August 25, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this
getalife speaks the truth and everyone should listen up!
The gop doesn’t listen to the liberals.
It’s because the liberals represent insanity and a failed society.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this
Yes Jason,
Those Clinton years do not compare to the failed w years.
How we long for the days of worrying about a bj.
By Monarch Hames
August 25, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this
Markus the smart boy - did they talk about how the levees broke at just the right time? Did they talk about the baby’s being raped? Did they talk about communications down on cell phones so people couldn’t send for help or get news?
By getalife
August 25, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this
Now we worry about the rapture and some wingnuts actually want it to happen.
Talk about insane.
By JK
August 25, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw, if you advocate government control of the media (influence in the form of newly-interpreted powers in the executive branch), then you advocate the use of tax dollars to pay for more government oversight into matters not set forth in the Constitution, and therefore you are NOT a conservative, you are in favor of bigger government, wasteful spending, and the erosion of individual rights.
Please enlighten this blog as to how you would IMPLEMENT AND FUND this government control (sorry, “influence”) that you advocate, and why it’s okay to subvert the first amendment in the process. Please stick to reality, dude, and not your absurd assertion that my interest in adhering to Constitutionally-sanctioned power by the executive branch is a “bizarre rant.”
By Realist
August 25, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this
In defense of jbmlaw, it’s my opinion that he asserted that JK’s “interest in adhering to the constitutionally-sanctioned power of the exec branch” as being a bizarre rant, simply because historical data indicates that indeed almost all JK’s assertations ARE bizarre rants.
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this
JK, suggest you consult a dictionary for the distinction between “influence” and “implement and fund.” I submit that is a congenital defect found in most moonbats.
By JK
August 25, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
Real mature, Realist. Attack what someone says based on your personal dislike for them with no consideration of what they said.
If you think it’s a good idea, then why don’t YOU tell us how much money should be used to fund and implement government oversight of journalism, and why in this particular instance you’d FAVOR a bigger, more powerful, more intrusive FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. G’head. Unlike you, I’ll hold back the personal attack and let your ideas speak for themselves.
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this
Suggest everyone re-read Jim Wooten’s piece on influencing media. Neither he nor any other intelligent person suggests buying influence. On the right, we spead the wealth of ideas - we don’t pay hush money.
By the sweet by and by
August 25, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this
Markus, that was a great string of quick cuts on getalife, but you forgot the part where he subsists on free government cheese, like I do, and like all liberals do. Look, maybe it’s wrong, but you can live quite well on cheese, and if it’s free, then we can use our food stamps for booze, steaks, lobster and stuff. I do admit sometimes I wish I had a real job, and made some real money like you and the other conservatives who rightly rule the americas, but I had a teacher in the fifth grade who kept saying, “Time is the most important thing in life”. I didn’t get it then, in fact I hated time back then. I wanted toys, and ice cream, and cartoons. But now I get it, I’d rather have time than a job or money. Time. I want more time. And I guess I dont get how government cheese fits in to all this, except I apologize for my shortcomings and hope to let you lead the charge as we bring democracy and everything to Iraq. Support the troops!! Stay the course!!!! We’ll stand down when they stand up. We aint leaving till the job’s done!!
Who cut the cheese?
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this
Thus “do everything legal, moral and ethical to influence the media.” Those suffering bankruptcy of ideas pay hush money or buy influence - no need on the right. Just talk, that’s all we need, to spread the truth. The truth drives out lies, but only when it reaches the light of day.
By Missy Rottweiler
August 25, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw - I’m thrilled to hear you aleady recycle kitty litter! You can also use it to remove stains in sinks and showers by wetting the stain and then covering it with the old kitty litter over night. Most everything can be recycled: bandages tissues, disposable diapers. Even human waste or night soil has been used as fertilizer for thousands of years. “Imagine…it’s easy if you try” John Lennon
By Realist
August 25, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
Im hurt JK. I cant beleive you think I dont like you. Im quite fond of you actually.
Regarding jbmlaws post, I agree with his most recent rebuttal, I dont think he was implying that we should implement legislation or fund in any way a government agency or program to control the media. I read what he said as use existing powers already in place to influence how the media conducts itself. See this is part of the problem with Bush haters, they read and hear only what they want to hear, regardless of fact. Thanks for magnifying that point for us today JK.
By Van
August 25, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this
By time for the truth,
The wording she used, People are free not to obey them if the laws violate basic human rights.
People are not free to disobey the laws. If, for example, a good german banker made loans to his jewish neighbor - in 1939 - the banker might have faced serious charges, the “not free” part. However, there are ways around this type of draconian law. There are ways to protest and change the laws. In this country we the people can influence and pressure our elected representatives for that change. In dictatorships, it must take a different path, usually violent. Just like today, the “peace niks” at 14th and Peachtree, during there “peaceful” protests of the war, might, just might turn nasty and violent if a counter protest was held on the opposite corner.
No, I do agree, that there are times when unfair laws must be ignored, but it is never free and never peaceful. unless you have the heart to stay the course, you will fail.
By the sweet by and by
August 25, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this
What Jim Wooten was saying about the media and war is that “The first casualty of war is truth.”
It’s an old bromide that Mr. Wooten updated rather cleverly, because he threw in a twist that none of you caught. I’ll give that twist away tomorrow, because I need to give you rhodes scholars a chance to decypher his inside joke, and I also need to know if Jim Wooten is wasted on the bloggers here, which I’ve suspected for quite sometime. He writes WAY over all your heads. But that’s another story, for another time, in a galazy far, far away.
By Van
August 25, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this
Another Hezbocrat.
WASHINGTON - Illinois congressman Danny Davis(D) and an aide took a trip to Sri Lanka last year that was paid for by the Tamil Tigers, a group that the U.S. government has designated as a terrorist organization for its use of suicide bombers and child soldiers, law enforcement sources said.
By Chazman
August 25, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this
He writes WAY over our heads? Sorry, but constant whining about Jesse, Albright, taxes, Judges who make decisions he doesn’t agree with, the Federal Government and the Media is not WAY over our head.
By Fall Line
August 25, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this
I have long felt that if society feels it’s necessary to require motocyclists to wear helmets, then it should also require motorists to wear seat belts. Some dude driving a pick-up truck is just as likely to have his brains splattered all over the highway as anyone else. Apparently the good ol’ boy lobby is a lot stronger than the beer and biker lobby. One of the more interesting laws for motocyclists is the headlight law. If your headlight burns out on a bright sunny day, you’re required to have it fixed immediately or take the bike off the road. This law exists because motorists are too stupid to watch for anything smaller than a Sherman tank.
The argument that without helmets motorcyclists would be a drain on hospital funds is nothing more than a red herring put out by those who want to be everyone else’s nanny. If that’s your concern then do something about all the illegal aliens having babies for free in the emergency rooms of every local hospital in the state.
Let the riders ride! You people just can’t stand freedom!
By Realist
August 25, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
Sweet, As much as we all admire you and appreciate your condescending tone, I dont think most of us here portray ourselves as Rhodes Scholars. Its a blog of people from all walks of life, sharing ideas and opinions and trying to better understand the world we live in. Only from understanding it can we try to change it.
Posts such as your last, wherein you want to relay your knowledge and superiority, actually make you appear quite small minded and ignorant.
It probably comes from over compensation for having a small or limp p***, but thats a story for another time, in a doctors office, far, far away.
By Redneck Convert
August 25, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
I say put the drivers using cellphones in jail. Their minds aren’t on driving, and they are fools enough to think that if their hands are free, they are safe drivers. The trouble all along has been that their cars and SUVs are on busy streets while their minds are on the house, a sports event, a talk with a buddy, plans for the night—just about anything but what other cars and they themselves are doing. The same goes for the nut jobs who try to read a newspaper folded against the steering wheel or try to put on makeup while they’re driving.
For once, Vernon Jones has done something right. I’m not usually in favor of government butting into our lives, but this case is an exception. If there was the electric chair for these selfish people, I would be right there to throw the switch.
As for government listening to my telephone calls, I don’t care. I don’t have a phone and don’t use one. You don’t need a phone to hang sheetrock. So you can’t give up a freedom you never used in the 1st place.
Same with government control of the media. We’d be in better shape, news-wise, if the US Department of Justice controlled the AJC than if Cox did. That way, we wouldn’t be getting all this bad news and liberal trash columns. Course, we’d lose Wooten too, but he could be replaced by a transcript of a Rush show or maybe by passing ten bucks to a street preacher. But at least we wouldn’t have to pay these journalists to print government news stories.
As long as I can have my Pabst at night, water for a monthly bath, and a church service on Sunday, I’m happy.
By atltoday
August 25, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
Last I checked, Cobb Galleria and ther Perimeter center and all of those kinds of areas only worked because they are in “Atlanta”. I work off cobb pkwy but my company’s address is Atlanta and a lot of business may wayt to get away from the taxes and the area but they still want to say they’re in atlanta.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this
hey sweet …
any immediate chance of you writing WAY OVER MY HEAD - in say a balloon at 10,000 ft with no safety equipment like parachutes that’s leaking very fast.
By Unlce Fester
August 25, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this
The only people I see who think being in or from Atlanta impresses anybody are guys with gold teeth and car emblems hanging on thier chests.
Get real. This place is a crime ridden, congested, immigrant infested sess pool.
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this
Sweet By, @ 1:19, if you are a Monty Pythoner, you will want to read http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0112-02.htm
By Chazman
August 25, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
Hey Redneck, you say you’re usually not for government butting into our lives, but yet you want 1) people put in jail who apparently are not looking directly at the road with both hands on the whell at ALL times, 2)the government listening in on our phone calls, 3) government control over the media. Yep, wouldn’t it be nice to only read what the government wants us to read. Oh yes, and what Rush had to say about it also. Niiice.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this
Jim’s drivel just spews it is not the conservatives fault, its the liberals, blah, blah, blah.
Same old crap every day and these idiots lap it up like they do with Rush, Ann, blah, blah, blah.
By harold
August 25, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this
The COBB Galleria wants to pretend it’s in Atlanta?
uhhhhhh
I think you mean Atlanta wants to pretend the Cobb Galleria area belongs to it!
The Cobb Galleria’s preference is eponymously apparent
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this
jbm
I take your point about Harold’s mainly impoverished attempts at wry/ironic humour. Obviously time for the truth gleaned many moons ago now that harold is essentially joking and his lame attempts at parody etc reflect that thinly veiled intent.
Its just that the imbecilic stupidity of so much of what he says is deeply troubling. Given the innate cretin factor at work amongst virtually all the liberal pinko commie creep lefties on here I feel it is only right and proper to occasionally correct’s harold’s embittered ramblings with the odd gem of factually informed logic. Thereby assailing his otherwise unassailable status as the leading homosexual liberal thinker on the forum.
We all know how gullible and stupid lefties are, and most of them are witless enough to unquestioningly simply swallow harold’s cyber droolings. This further degrades the already difficult enough quest on here of promoting clear analytical right of centre thinking. Thus it is wholly in the selfless interests of liberal dimwits and morons that I occasionally challenge and effortlessly upbraid Harold.
By five o'clock somewhere
August 25, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this
Awe man, just when I was enjoying a read only mode today along comes Unlce [sic] Fester. So where’s you be from old yeller? New Joisie the cesspool of overtaxation and dirty cities..whereupon people are leaving by the droves and coming to Atlanta and other areas in the south? Maybe you’re from Pittsburgh the trash-ridden parts of which give Mexico City a run for its money. Perhaps you are from Detriot the city known for harboring terrorists. Maybe you are from San Francisco the city of weirdos and winos that pee on the streets legally. Or, perhaps you are from Bahston, one of the top cities of drunks..according to MSN’s listing of the most drunk cities..who enjoy bending over for Kennedy draconian taxation policies. No, Atlanta didn’t even make it in the top 25 town drunk cities, nor did any other southern city. Of course Unlce Fester, if I were festering in one of those rathole cities, I’d be drunk constantly too.
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this
JK, my apologies, my language was intemperate. I believe you deliberately misconstrued my language and that of Mr. Wooten, but that does not merit my harsh response. Realist spoke better, and I will try to adhere to that example.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this
Here, I will throw you cons a bone
Invest wisely.
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
Dear TFTT @ 1:52, noted and acknowledged. I do not want to constrain your wit, so I do not object to your “Harold” comments - I read most of your writing as well-founded in humor also.
By JK
August 25, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw, I appreciate your apology, but I read Mr. Wooten almost daily, and I don’t think I miscontrued. I think his message was, “Liberals are reporting something other than Rah! Rah! the war is going great, and we should silence them in any way possible, because if everyone would just agree that all is great, then it WILL be, and further, the people in power are not responsible for what’s happening, it’s those darn reporters who won’t get with the program.” Note the absence of “free market” support with regard to his own profession, or the failure to suggest the profession in some way police itself with regard to lying.
If I have misconstrued Mr. Wooten’s suggestion, perhaps he will clarify what he ment, and how he wants to fund and implement such oversight. BTW, the term “legally” doesn’t mean much when the administration tweaks it daily, per their own admission, as to what constitutes “inherent powers.”
By JK
August 25, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this
You tax dollar are already at work influencing the media and posing propaganda as news. This is in addition of course, to the tax breaks Rupert Murdoch enjoys. The Hill
Christian Science Monitor
By harold
August 25, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this
upbraid Harold?
Sorry, what hair Harold’s still has is too short!
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this
Harold @ 1:44, I wish I had written that one.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this
w farts
By Redneck Convert
August 25, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this
Chazman,
As long as government does what I want it to do, it can intrude in our lives all it wants. It’s when the government does what I don’t want it to do that I want it out of my life. That’s the Amerikkkan way and the Redneck way.
For instance, I want the government to intrude to
I don’t want the government to intrude to
By Liberal
August 25, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this
Cobb Galleria…the outdated, half-a* convention center with a dying mall that is located at a major traffic bottleneck?
Cobb can have it.
By JK
August 25, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this
Is THIS good for the war effort? “A Defense Department investigation of Pentagon-financed propaganda efforts in Iraq warns that paying Iraqi journalists to produce positive stories could damage American credibility and calls for an end to military payments to a group of Iraqi journalists in Baghdad, according to a summary of the investigation.” Here’s the link:
I’m not answering that question, only encouraging people to be informed before deciding whether you think it’s a good damn idea for the government to pay for “news.”
By jbmlaw
August 25, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this
JK, I respectfully disagree with the foundation for your 2:09 assertions. While I think it is true that “numerically” the free market in communications opposes the conservative position, it is disingenuous to ignore which entities in that industry are growing, and which entities are in decline.
I take your present language as implicit understanding, and maybe even agreement, that “influence” and “legal, moral, and ethical” do not comport with “implement and fund.”
By Realist
August 25, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this
failure to suggest the profession in some way police itself with regard to lying
He didnt suggest it because only an eternally hopeful and blind to reality liberal woudl think that these abusive, lying clowns could or should police themselves. Yes, Im sure the answer is to put the fox in charge of the chicken house. Ive got it. Lets make Dan Rather in charge of monitoring and policing the media and newsgroups. He isnt working right now and has a proven track record of only the highest degree of integrity and truth in journalism. Give me a break!!
Wake up and smell the libel!
By harold
August 25, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this
harold is presidential material!
By Ann is a horse.
August 25, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
A horse is a horse, of course, of course, unless you listen to the horse of course, its the famous horse they call Mr. Ann.
By Talon News
August 25, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this
Dan Rather is nothing more than a journalistic fraud. You libby libs don’t understand the meaning of legal, moral, and ethical, Just ask your god Clintoon.
Bush has restored respect and dignity to the office in addition to his traits as a legal, moral and ethical guide we can all be proud of.
Jeff….O~O
By JK
August 25, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
Jim Wooten wrote: “The administration and the military should do everything legal, moral and ethical to influence the media — here and around the world.”
Sorry folks, but I’m educated enough to know that would require a program that is funded with your tax dollars and implemented and executed by government employees.
Realist, way to take the issue I was discussing, add a bunch of garbage I said nothing about, and use it as a personal insult. You are so good at this, you should open your own business, free from government intrusion into your first ammendment rights.
By Cletus Snow
August 25, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this
Kudos to Vernon Jones cells are a real problem, yesterday I watched a lady talking on a cell back over a buggy at walmart get out try to remove it from under her suv,and never stop talking on her cell.She didn’t even hang up to ask me to help her, yeah right. Helmets should be optional,if medical expence is the arguement then condoms should be required it could eliminate abortion,aids,stds,welfare babys and save a lot of tax payer money. While we are on the subject we could ban cigarettes and booze and save some more. Helmets should be optional as seat belts in pickup trucks are.
By Chazman
August 25, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
Hey Redneck, sounds like you need to leave Amerika and find a good country to be Dictator of. The you can control everything! Cool! I don’t agree with you, but I like your ambition. But I think you may have been sniffing too much sheet rock dust……….
By Realist
August 25, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this
I just want to say thank God that the do-gooder liberals put a stop to this horrific practice of the US paying Iraqis for placing positve stories in thier newspapers. I mean we wouldnt want to boost moral over there and actually do something to HELP our cause and help stop the killing of our soldiers. No sir. We want the Iraqi’s to feel defeated and hopeless just like our lefty dem friends here in the US feel, and want us all to feel. This is disgusting.
I swear to God, you sickening dems wont rest until you cut every leg out from under this war effort and this President. The spread of propaganda through news and radio during war time has been going on since the civil war of maybe before. You liberals are truly the real enemy in this war, not the terrorist.
By deegee
August 25, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this
Cletus, were you riding in the buggy when she ran over it? Without a helmet?
By JK
August 25, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
The Defense Department is run by a bunch of “sickening dems?” Wow. Who knew? Thanks for the info, Realist!
That was their investigation and report referenced at 2:19, not mine, hater. Why don’t you just take another ten minutes and froth at the mouth about how every problem in America is JK’s fault, even though not a single one of JK’s elected representatives EVER votes the way she asks them to. Go ahead. Big fat hater. See in CHURCH on Sunday! (9:45, or 11:00?)
By Realist
August 25, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
If you read the ENTIRE article you will read that it was an “outcry” from members of Congress who sparked the “concern” by the pentagon. Wanna bet who the “outcry” was from?
Dont try to confuse the issue. Its always panty waste limp wristers JK, at the root of problems like this.
btw, I have a 9:00am tee time Sunday morning, so my wife will send my apologies, along with my check.
By five o'clock somewhere
August 25, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this
Well said realist @ 2:48. The UFO left will never give Bush credit for anything including passing legislation that didn’t originate from the gop. The banter of libbies on Bush is never ending, nor will it ever end so long as he remains in power. If things eventually do go well they’ll pull the re-write history card like they did on Reagan..the bedtime bonzos now say that the USSR was going to collapse anyway and Reagan had nothing to do with it. What we are dealing with here is a lack of respect for reality and vision. With that, I bid an early Friday exit, because it’s five o’clock in Greenland.
By JK
August 25, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this
May your every mouthful of collards be as bitter as your hateful soul.
By Realist
August 25, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this
Now thats just low. You dont mess with a mans greens ;)
By Realist
August 25, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this
Have a good weekend JK. May your bosom be plentiful, and may your box of wine runneth over. :)
By Klaus
August 25, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this
We need strong leadership and stop critisizing and let him to his job!
By Van
August 25, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this
Klaus ,
Interesting, about as real as the photos out of Lebanon.
I have noticed, that the left loves trying to equate the conservatives or the President with the Nazi’s. While the conservatives just love pointing out how lame and ignorant the lefties are.
By JK
August 25, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
Actually Realist, you’re right. Congressmen called for the investigation into buyng news in Iraq. So um, how does that affect the result? Do you think the Defense Department woud LIE and put themselves in an unfavorable light just to appease a handful of minority Congressmen?
Either you think they would, (I’d love to hear their motivation) or you think the findings are actual, in which case, with whom exactly do you have a problem?
Are you saying that Congress should STOP performing their duty to provide oversight on the other branches of government? If so, then why? Isn’t that their job? So are you mad at (A) Congress for doing their job that day or (B) Defense Department personnel for doing their jobs and not lying, or do you think (C) the Defense Department was lying, and why?
Please do enlighten.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this
conservatives just love pointing out how lame and ignorant the lefties are.
That’s ONLY because they are - lame and ignorant!
Just read a handful of their posts on here and that is increasingly irrefutable!
By getalife
August 25, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this
Why are you here still running your ignorant mouths?
Back up your global warming that you spew and get over there and fight cowards.
By Realist
August 25, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this
JK, For your amusement, I sumbit:
A. I think Congress was not doing thier job but rather looking for ways to continue to undermind this President and our troops.
B. I think the pentagon, DD, and the President were simply going through the motions and appeasing the media by stating that they were deeply concerned and troubled and would “look” into it.
C. I think Gen. George Casey is clear when he says “he will continue aggressive use of Iraq’s media to influence public opinion there, and that he would continue unless told by more senior officials to stop. Paying for publication of positive stories is a delicate issue among some Pentagon officials, especially the military’s public affairs officers, who worry that their efforts to supply the public with facts will be tainted by the military’s practice of paying to place stories.
But defenders of the practice say that in a environment like Iraq, that is the only way to get information out to Iraqis who would dismiss statements from American military sources.
You see JK, the liberals have created an atmosphere of fear right here in America and within our own White House. Every act, word, or deed is scrutinized and twisted into something it isnt, and if you dont show grave concern over it you must not care of must be insensitive to the needs of some poeple. Its all hogwash.
You know what, Im shocked. You seem halfway intelligent and I cant beleive you dont see through all that boloney and support those clowns. Im disappointed in you hon.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this
Just kidding cowards. I know it is all bs. Spew on wingnuts.
By JK
August 25, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
Realist, Honey. No one else on the entire planet listens to a single word I say. Not my Congressman, not Johnny Isaakson, not my State Senator, not even my City Councilman. (Okay my dog listens when I say sic’em but that’s it.) You’re the ONLY one, Hon! I have ZERO voice in government. If you don’t believe me, I can retrieve the letters I get from Isaakson’s people stating it very clearly: “Ma’am, we don’t care what you think.” So tell me again how it’s my fault? (The only people I “support” are my kids and my mortgage company, and the CURRENT gov’t with my taxes.) Then validate that by explaining what would change (and how) if I woke up tomorrow and agreed with everything you say, like a good little girl. Take the weekend if you need the time to figure it out, ‘cause I REEEEALLLYYY want to know how any of this is my fault! I’ll be waiting.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
its pretty dead on here this afternoon …
I would say that feminazi JK seems maybe a quarter way intelligent at best. Not entirely stupid or witless but nowhere near as bright as even the Kimmer - who is hardly even DNC material (intellectually)!!
By Jim Wooten
August 25, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
A quick note, JK, because I’m working on next week’s material, but nobody’s talking about the military or the administration buying news. That is unethical here and foolish, if not unethical in every circumstance, abroad. It’s the end of credibility. But there are plenty of other ways legal and moral to tell the story, or to help reporters gain perspective. One example is allowing reporters to live for extended periods of time with operating units, something that’s being done in Iraq. The reporters write what they want, but they have access the opportunity to see first hand what’s going on, and they get to know the troops, which is important since few journalists have military backgrounds.
Without question, the domestic audience is a key target in the enemy’s propaganda battle. Being aware of that and countering it legally, morally and ethically is a must.
By the sweet by and by
August 25, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this
214 posts so far today, 207 of them from a handful of finger tricks. Same thing every day. This blog has been officially downgraded to a chatroom. You love to chat.
I’d love to drown the chat but save you a nice little black chitten.
I love the way you five try to emulate my posting style. I purposely make minor changes to see if you’ll copy, and you always do.
that means that you pour over every word I write.
Gosh, fellahs, I’m speechless.
Miller Time dead ahead. Get a head start and crack open a tall one for me right now.
Seriously, I am grateful for your hero worship. I try. Wanna hear something cool? I first coined the term, “shia superstate” about two years ago, and now it is in general usage. I cant believe it. I matter.
I wonder if Paris H. would do me if she knew. Life could be a dream. Sha na na na…
By deegee
August 25, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this
Bush told us that US presence in Iraq would draw down after specific milestones were met. Such milestones were Iraqi constitution, Iraqi elections, standing Iraqi army. Bush told us in May that he expected the drawdown to begin in November as the milestones have been reached. So far July was the bloodiest month in Iraq for civilians since the war began and we are looking for 9,000 more troops to send over there to help keep the government in tact. Tell me where the liberal dems are skewing this picture? Even Bush’s own advisors are telling him to tone down the rhetoric on the Iraqi situation because the facts don’t support it and he appears to be out of touch with reality. Is that the fault of liberal dems?
By getalife
August 25, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this
Hey Jim,
Did you get a call back to serve yet?
I read where a 60 year old Marine got one to serve in Iraq?
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this
JK … in all seriousness very few politicians listen to anything their constituents “individually” say, beyond obviously dealing with constituency matters, complaints, problems and so on. It has to be a collectivist sense of the district/state that they lood toward.
Given the nature of your pretty leftist views you cant expect GOP senators to meaningfully “listen”. Would Kennedy or Kerry “listen” meaningfully to anything I seriously said to them about policy?
By deegee
August 25, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this
Bush told us that the US would drawdown in Iraq after certain milestones were met. Iraqi constitution, Iraqi elections, Iraqi standing army. In May he told us that we should start drawing down in November as milestones have been met. July was the bloodiest month for Iraqi civilians since the war began and the military is looking for 9,000 more troops to send over there to keep the government intact. How are liberal dems skewing this? Even Bush’s own advisors are telling him to tone down the rhetoric on Iraq because the facts don’t support him and he appears to be out of touch with reality. Whose fault is that?
By getalife
August 25, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this
[Its the liberals fault deegee.] (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/08/25/olbermann-lists-oreilly-limbaugh-and-coulter-on-worlds-worst/)
By Realist
August 25, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this
awwww JK. Dont make me feel bad. Im not blaming you per se. But it is those like you (im assuming you vote) that put these bleeding heart imbeciles in office isnt it? In that small way, it is your fault, and I blame you. Ha!
By Realist
August 25, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this
Great debate JK. I gotta run and get my boat in the water before it gets too late.
Yall have a good weekend.
Talk to Deegee TFTT. Set her straight would you sir?
See yall
By JK
August 25, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten, Thank you for clarifying your position. I realize that it’s bullet-point Friday, but the brevity and directness of your comment was a bit to Castro-esque for me not to respond. That so many jumped in to defend the idea of government controlling the media is far more disturbing to me than your comment, however. I hope you’ll consider addressing that sort of thing in a future column.
TFTT, thanks for validating my point. Please feel free to blame me for public policy when someone I actually voted for actually gets to make a decision. Thanks.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this
Acually lies,
Kerry blogs and anwers questions.
The GOP do not blog. They blame Kos for Joe losing.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this
JK … the point about talking to almost all politicians is that its usually a frustrating one, if you’re expecting to maake any headway in changing their minds - clearly they dont want to upset you too much - unless you’re obviously not in their camp and are being obstreperous.
Remember they get cornered by all kinds of voters and have to be glib. I’ve talked briefly to Barr and Coverdell when they were in office. Nothing against them but they were essentially no different in the way they operate to a number of Tory MP’s in Engalnd I’ve encountered. You get to hear what they’re really about - voting/policy wise when they’re on TV/radio - when the audience is maximised.
I’m very cynical about politicians, even ones I broadly support, and learnt long ago that there’s no point in winding yourself up about what they do/say. You cant change it. On here its banter mostly some folks take it way too seriously.
tinybrain … kerry may blog and answer a few, even many questions - but his stock answers even to awkward questions aren’t going to dramatically change, nor is his political stance. its really a waste of time - its kind of a PR charade. but he gets to let folks think they’ve had access to him. its no different to on here - if the GOP asked him serious searching questions he wouldn’t be honest - he never was in 2004!!
“planting” positive media coverage is common in the arab world and elsewhere. so long as the stories are broadly if not completely accurate, as is the case, its no different to some lefty planting anti-Bush stories. given the lefty media’s refusal to give any good news out about Iraq- its in their interests to present doom and gloom and violence etc which is NOT the case in most of IRaq.
By Felicia
August 25, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten, I’m not here to insult, but the only honest journalism I find comes from small town journalists. Just giving us the facts. Maybe it’s because of their removal far from the cynical citizenry that resides in metropolitan areas.
The main stream media is all about the profit. Rush to judgment without any facts and rarely admit to mistakes. The seed is planted, the damage is done in the mind of the reader.
By Van
August 25, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
deegee,
One question of all those poor civilians how many were killed by the religion of pieces and how many by the peacekeepers?
By rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda
August 25, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
Greetings from Boulder - a beautiful day here, the city et up with Alabama’s and Georgia’s own John Mark Karr and Jon Benet Ramsay - both raised in redneck homes, Karr by ministers…
A friend pointed out Dobson’s Focus on the Family HQers out here - why don’t you filthy rednecks Focus on Your Own Damn Families?
smirk
By getalife
August 25, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this
So, a Iraq war widow gets a chance to speak to w
Awesome.
By Van
August 25, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
More good news
U.S. Generals: Baghdad Violence Curbed
Seems a lot of folks are killed by other Iraqi’s - hmmm, if we pull out, how many more will die?
By Red State KKKhristian
August 25, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this
Let me tell you one damn thing - my Gawd ain’t no longhaired sissy JOO, my God drives a Harley and is RED WHITE AND BLUE
By getalife
August 25, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this
They are dying now Van. Either way, they will support Iran.
We will stay to keep Iran from getting their oil.
More US troops will die.
By Van
August 25, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Try just once and read an article, try not to be so ignorant.
I just do not understand someone that encourages the rest of us to browbeat you with your loopy comments? You must enjoy the snubbing and abuse.
It would be so much better to debate you fact for fact and not the trash you are posting.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this
Here is your debate Van.
Why are you here running your mouth instead of fighting for what you believe in?
By getalife
August 25, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this
Respond coward.
Are you disabled?
By getalife
August 25, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this
Figures.
All mouth.
You have not seen abuse yet coward.
By time for the truth
August 25, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this
Why are you here running your mouth instead of fighting for what you believe in
every day the inadequate maggot brain cyber squats here, rarely if ever actually debating or discussing, all it does is just goad and hector from a far left Bush hater, obsessive focus on Iraq perspective.
come on maggot brain - surely a far left FEMA fund abusing hack like yourself can do better than that!!
By Van
August 25, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Been there, done that, 1967 - 1971, USMC. At my age, they will take the women and children first. With my knees, I could not keep up with the young guys in uniform today. You see, I faced my responsibility back beore you were even born. I volunteered for military service during an extremely unpopular war. BTW, what branch did you serve in, or did you run from the responsibility of a citizen of the nation. People today forget that it is the responsibility of every citizen to be involved with the government, without the involvement, the elected officials can take advantage of the electorate. By sitting back and whining, nothing get done and you loose respect. Serving with the military will give you several agvantages over the usual high school graduate.
1) you learn who and what you are made of. 2) self reliance 3) The meaning of working as a team without regard of who get the credit. 4) learning you can rely on someone else. That guy in the fox hole with you - you better be able to trust him. 5) become a man quickly. you would be suprised how fast you grow up. 6) learn the real meaning of money. This money you earn with sweat.
And that is just the beginning, respect for self and others, how to behave in a dignified manner.
By getalife
August 25, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
lies,
There is no honest debate here.
Just cowards running their ignorant mouths and will not scarifice anything for their cause.
It is pathetic.
Are you disabled lies?