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Black middle class forges its own identity
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
It’s not a promise, but if all goes well it’ll not be necessary to mention a tired, old subject — Cynthia McKinney — again. Well, until she speaks, as she did Tuesday in Augusta, insisting on an end to crossover voting and runoffs, which she considers a violation of the Voting Rights Act.
“How is it that I could win election and get kicked out, win election and get kicked out because Republicans can cross over and vote in the Democratic primary?’ she was quoted by Kate Brumback of the Associated Press as saying at an Augusta event sponsored by the Rev. Al Sharpton. “If Republicans work that hard to get rid of me, I got to be doing something good for you.”
Runoffs absolutely should be kept. They violate nothing. And it is self-delusional to believe that Republicans were anything more than spectators in what remains the most significant Georgia political story since the Democratic Party’s swift implosion, following the surprising win by Gov. Sonny Perdue four years ago. The story of a seminal event, not fully detected in advance by anybody, is of the political transformation of the black middle class.
If one election could be said to be the dividing line between the era of “civil rights leaders” and the world to come, in which situational leaders emerge and fade as issues dictate, it was this one in Georgia’s 4th Congressional District.
The Latino community may develop, and probably will, with individuals, or a tiny few, designated by the media as spokesmen in the same way the media once decided that certain individuals — a Jesse Jackson, an Al Sharpton or Cynthia McKinney — were to be spokesmen or women for a people who lacked the voice or forum to speak for themselves.
We see it happening already. Latinos in leadership positions, whether they’re Democrat or Republican, are expected to think alike on issues such as illegal immigration or education or government programs.
With that election, the high-profile “truth to power” celebrities, such as McKinney, Jackson, Sharpton and others of the old order, just became yesterday’s news. They have lived long enough to see the cutting edge of the new day dawning.
Like former Georgia House Speaker Tom Murphy in his waning years, they still have the potential to cause trouble or to focus attention, but the end is nigh.
It was the runoff that hastened the process. Otherwise this incumbent, any incumbent, has a material advantage against any challenger.
The incumbent generally has the largest bloc of voters, the best organization and the most money. In a crowded field, the incumbent wins. So while the majority may prefer somebody else, without the runoff an incumbent with a diehard band of followers is always advantaged.
Runoffs allow the majority to speak. Mc-Kinney led 47.1 percent to 44.4 percent in round one. She lost in the runoff, 58.8 percent to 41.2 percent. Almost 60 percent preferred somebody else. And yet, had the race been over after the first round, the majority would have been denied .
Incumbents, even the Republicans under the Gold Dome who are no fonder of opposition than are the Democrats they replaced, may very well consider eliminating the runoff. Voters should resist. It serves a purpose. It assures the election, or the nomination, of a candidate the majority supports.
Yes, it’s an additional expense. But it’s an expense easily affordable.
In her Augusta remarks, McKinney blamed her defeat as well on electronic voting. She sees in them the same evil lurking as she sees in, well, lots of stuff. Irony of ironies, it was her fellow Democrats who rushed to spend $54 million to buy the machines just before the 2002 election because their voters were having trouble following instructions on paper ballots.
And, as they saw it, they were leaving votes on the table at a time victory margins were narrowing. Sure it would have been more prudent financially to wait until machines could produce the paper trail she and I want. But this was about political advantage.
“It’s critical that you know that you have no way of being sure that your vote was counted,” she told the 200 or fewer people who attended Sharpton’s National Dialogue and Revival for Social Justice in the Black Church.
The black middle class that spoke Aug. 8 is not one that can be pigeonholed or stereotyped. It’s complex, nuanced, sophisticated with a hundred voices and altogether unlikely to see politicians as their conduit to wealth or security.
McKinney sees the world in conspiracies. They don’t. In a day and time past, her worldview and her spin might have been theirs. In a day at time past.
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By Fall Line
August 19, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this
Hi Jim, The gerrymandering of congressional districts to provide for racially proportional representation in Congress has made crossover primary voting mandatory to insure that all the constituents in a district have adequate representation. I don’t live in District Four, but if I did, realizing that in the election my conservative Republican vote would have little or no meaning, I would want to be able to choose in the primary the Democratic candidate that represented the lesser of two (or three) evils for me. The candidates, knowing this, would have to vow to represent all of the constituents rather than just those they feel are in their pockets.
By Political Foreskin
August 19, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this
I live in Newt Ginrich’s old district. I voted for the first time in my life in ‘04. So I had to register for the first time in my life. (jury duty challenged).
When I got in line to vote on that cool november day, had to wait for 45 minutes. I almost gave up 23 times, but some fat lady behind me kept staring me down, like she would really let me have it if I didn’t do my patriotic duty. (sorry, dear)
I finally got to the volunteer who asked me my name, and then rifled through the index cards to find me….and couldn’t. So she huddled with a supervisor who kept looking at me during their discussion. (sizing up a liberal democrat, no doubt)
Finally, she got a form and filled it out with my orally-recited data, and I moved on to the next volunteer who gave me my ballot plug-in.
Strangely, he fumbled with it. He had some hand-held thingie that he used to activate my ballot plug-in, but it didn’t work right. So he grabbed my plug-in, and ducked below the desk and fiddled with the activator, maybe replacing a battery or some other such insert, and then reappeared and completed the activation and handed me my ballot plug-in.
I stood there, expressionless, and looked deeply into his eyes. The tension in the air was the fallout from all the Diebold fraud hysteria. He squirmed at first, but then his countenance grew impatient and threatening. He actually turned and face-signaled a security guy standing behind him near the door, who immediately caught my eye with an urgent look.
I slowly leaned toward the ballot boxes and turned and walked the ten feet to vote. I used to be a mime, so my “voter walking against the facsist wind, trapped in a republican box” act really irked them.
I looked back at those two clowns ten times.
What did they do? How did they know I was a democrat, except that I was a new register, who was not in the index file, and who needed a special form.
This district is all republican all the time. They support the war so much that the yellow ribbons around the trees are from dog territorial disputes. Now THAT’S republican.
Very suspicious. Very, VERY suspicious.
Cynthia McKinney, I would like to volunteer to go with you to Cobb County and confront those volunteers who obviously neutered my ballot with all the fumbling and rifling and mugging. I promise to protect you from all the dogs, including the ones on leashes.
By Erica
August 19, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten, I could not agree with you more. Middle class blacks have moved beyond the “Thems that got it don’t deserve your vote” argument put forth by Cynthia. How has she been able to accomplish this injustice for so long? She made sure that her constituents never got it.
McKinney has thrived on her uselessness. Middle class blacks are smarter than her. But still she persists in her ignorance & exploitation. That’s indication enough that she’s stuck on stupid. Now it’s the responsibility of middle class blacks to save the remaining followers of the McKinney types in politics from the intellectual exploitation. I wish them every success.
By Ryan
August 19, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this
Jim; I live in Georgia but not the 4th District. McKinney served noone and nothing. As a state, we’re all the better for her defeat.
It looks like Political Foreskin wants to remain among the ignorant theorists. The (the jury duty challenged) reference proves it. Not too bright I would guess. Was he/she underage prior to 2004?
By Political Foreskin
August 19, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this
Well!
By JHT
August 19, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this
Jim,
When you were mentioning the old Hate White Guard, you left out Cynthia Tucker!
She, Al, Jessee and all the other blame the White Man crowd, have done more to ruin the lives of their fellow blacks than the white man could ever have.
Cynthia Tucker, Al Sharpton and Jessee Jackson are getting rich off the backs of Blacks. Sad!
Also, she and Bookman are continuing to run the AJC in the ground. As they continue to publish their hate for American, the circulation continues to drop! In a way, I am glad that less and less people are reading the AJC. I haven’t bought an issue in over 2 years!
Jim
By Markus
August 19, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this
That was a nice bedtime story Political Snakeskin. Yeah we know, electronic voting machines are why Republicans win every time. You call others “clowns” and you claim you used to be a mime? Boy, talk about the jackal calling the jackass stubborn. Here’s an idea PF: if you don’t like being around so many “warmonger” Republicans, why don’t you move to Decatur or somewhere else ITP? That way you can drive around with your “No W” sticker and that cute little rainbow sticker in the middle of your back window with pride.
Cynthis McKinney’s blaming of her loss on Republicans crossing over is laughable, but to be expected. If memory serves me correctly, it was the Democrats who initially drew up the idea of intra-political voting to keep out strong Republican candidates. When it backfires on them of course, they pitch a fit. Come to think of it, I can’t ever remember a time when liberal democrats DIDN’T pitch a fit over something. I’d hate to be that miserable. Sheesh. Of course Muhammadette McKinney pitches a fit over everything these days. When someone confronts her because they don’t recognize her, she flails those arms like Aunt Esther. Allah willing you’ll be out of the way of those things.
In any event, it’s heartwarming to know that the successful, independent, and self-prided black community is beginning to rise up and break the chains of economic slavery brought on by the plantation of liberal democrat policies.
As a 15-year resident of Atlanta who has lived in just about every part of the metro area imaginable, I have witnessed a lot of changes. One of these changes has seen the black middle and upper class move out into the suburbs buying bigger and bigger homes and nicer cars. They are experiencing the REAL American dream and not sitting back waiting on Jesse’s reparations check. Of course, there are jealous ones out there who are deficient in the self-pride and indepedence departments. That ilk just sits back poormouthing these people, calling them “sellouts” and saying assinine things like “well they are working twice as hard as the white man to get where they are.” That’s a liberal democrat crock. I’ve seen black success in “whitie world” up close and VERY personal. Amazing what one can accomplish when they ignore things like “studying in school is acting white” or “working hard is acting white.”
By Shannon, M.Div.
August 19, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this
There will always be a need for politicians, clergy, whistleblowers, prosecutors, defense attorneys, judges, and women and men of all professions (even journalists with op/ed columns) to speak “truth to power.” Power still corrupts (look at the Republicans these days. Small government, anyone? I didn’t think so).
McKinney, however, stopped speaking “truth to power” a long time ago and started speaking “crazy nutcase to power.” That’s ineffective, and that’s why I voted against her.
By getalife
August 19, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this
They take electronic voting machines home before the elections. You can buy the electronic components on EBay. You can easily open the machines and they can be hacked to change the results. There is no paper trail.
Theses are the facts and our democracy is at stake.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this
Well said JHT. I stopped subscribing to the AJC soon after Election 2000. Somebody help me out here if I’m wrong. I remember back in the good old days of less traffic and sprawl, that we had two papers: the Atlanta Journal, which was left of center and issued in the AM, and the Atlanta Constitution, which was right of center and issued in the PM. Once the two converged, the paper remained left of center. I was able to tolerate it because I could get other viewpoints from the then-booming internet.
Then something happened to the AJC after the Election of 2000 and the rabid anti-Republican tone that paper has, from the @Issue section to the front page which blares New York Slimes reprint. I experimented for a while in keeping up with how many Republican-bashing things they printed in all sections vs. anti-Democrat. It was something like 75% anti-Republilcan, and 25% anti-Democrat.
But like the internet boom initially, the blogs are now turning into the latest media outlet. The liberal media hates that of course. Why not since the latest casualties of leftist media lies and slander like CBS’s forged Bush documents and Reutuer’s doctored Lebanon photos. The days of Americans being spoon fed three TV channels of media outlet liberal garbage without countering opinions are over, thank God.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this
If Political Snakeskin was underage prior to 04, that would sure explain liberal ignorance. Those young whippersnappers/protesters think they know enough to run the world when they can’t even hold down a job.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this
The problem is not the trash voting machines - it’s the trash that votes. Just as a for instance, Georgia has the highest high school dropout rate in the nation.
The votes are accurately counted. Georgia is proof that a democracy is only as good as the people that vote… garbage in, garbage out.
We have a governor named Sonny. We used to have one named Zell. Trash elects trash.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this
Take your race trolling elsewhere, SF. Adults are here this morning. Oh, I noticed you had no comment about why Shirley Franklin passed a law banning “aggressive panhandling.” Is she racist too? Come on, tell us!
By getalife
August 19, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this
Here is another site for you Markus besides the lgf
GodHatesTrash,
Good point. They did elect W twice.
By sct
August 19, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this
Markus, why don’t you just subscribe to the conservative Atlanta newspaper?
By Markus
August 19, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
Getalife-
Oh you mean that vote machine that was found in the back of a democrat politician’s volunteer helper’s car in Palm Beach County during the Election of 2000?
PS: Don’t waste your time posting your BS links on me here. If I wanted loonbat liberal propoganda, I’d pick up a sloppy seconds copy of the New York Slimes.
By sct
August 19, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
Question: What do Cynthia McKinney, Bill Campbell and conservatives have in common?
Answer: They all blames the media for their problems and shortcomings.
By getalife
August 19, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this
Markus,
That link was to a wingnut moonbat site Human Events where you can read the hate of your queen Ann Coulter.
I am starting to see the wingnuts on TV admitting the failure of the neo con agenda. This is a baby step in the right direction. After Hezbelloh became stronger after the Israeli invasion, it became too obviuos for them to spin. W did try but it did not work.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this
Pretty funny sct.
Ever wonder why the AJC is such a trash paper - something so slimy Murdoch wouldn’t even touch? Look at the potential audience - you’re writing a newspaper for Georgians, for southerners - people that have a congenital inability to learn and read, and a cultural hatred toward education and learning. 40% of the 18 year-olds in the state couldn’t graduate from GEORGIA high school.
It’s not so much that these yahoos don’t read, it’s more that they can’t. Look at how successful hate radio is here. All the big words in the paper make their little heads hurt, so they listen to lynch mob radio.
Trash.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this
Oh, I almost forgot. Speaking of the rising middle and upper-class black folks, there was a great Peanuts comic on Thursday, July 27. I believe the original year was 1959 for this, but it’s hard to read in such small print. It could be 1969 originally. This is a CLASSIC example of the thinking of liberal democrats and how they perceive people who work harder or are more successful than they are (they usually goes hand in hand).
Anyway, Linus and Charlie are walking down the street talking:
Linus: “I’m interested in learning how to develop a real concern for others…”
Charlie: “You mean you want to be concerned abouut those who are less fortunate than you?”
Linus: “No, I want to be concerned about those who are MORE fortunate than I am..”
Linus: “I want to being them down to my level!”
Classic Peanuts, and classic socioeconomic liberalism!
By Michael Silly Savage
August 19, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this
I know I sound butch on the radio, but I have Peanuts in my nut sack.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this
@sct-
First, I haven’t subscribed to a magazine or newspaper in years and will probably never do so again. Thanks to technology, my home is near paperless sans mail and cookbooks and a small library.
Second, Bill Campbell has something NONE of the others have, he’s in JAIL, although Cynthia should be too.
By Political Foreskin
August 19, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this
Sounds like the choir is tuning up a little early today.
introducing….the Chimpunks: Ahkmed, Hahkmed, Fahkmed, and Markus.
Okay, ready boys? ready Ahkmed? (chirping sound). ready Hahkmed? (“naturually”), ready Fahkmed? (“cha cha”), ready Markus…..markus…….MARKUS!!! (“okay!”)
Mission Accomplished Time is Near, Time for jingoistic cheer, we’ve been whupped, and we cant last, hurry victory spin on the past.
Want intel on rocket tubes, me I want a kurdish dupe, we can hardly stand the wait please Bush-spin dont be late.
(Okay, boys, that was very good, uh, markus you were a little flat….markus….MARKUS!! “okay!)
With Powell we drank the koolaid quick, Rice messed up the ‘rithmetic. Civil war trumped Cheney’s cards and Bush has lost his smirk…..Civil war trumped Cheney’s cards and Bush has lost his smirk.
“that was fine, boys,” (We want to invade Iraq again)…”no, Ahkmed, one geo-political catastrophe in a generation is enough” (WE WANT TO INVADE IRAQ AGAIN)…”down boys, there’s no more to do there, everything’s blown up already” (WE WANT TO INVADE IRAQ AGAIN)…..”MARKUS!!!”
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this
Amusingly enough unhinged foreskin is still busy drooling about pretty much nothing in its increasingly bewildered state. Admitting its only voted since 04 kind of perfectly sums up this sad desperately unfunny weirdo. And it shows the level of its involvment with and committment to the political process very nicely. Perhaps unhinged foreskin is one of the lazier or indifferent blacks that apparently were unable to process simple enough voting instructions before the advent of electronic voting alluded to above. Certainly judging from its stream of witless posts that would hardly be surprising. The only “fascist wind” here seems to come from its constant cyber flatulence. As a complete stranger (and new immigrant) to the voting process I had no problems “learning” to vote.
Clearly in the past there were many completely unthinking blacks gleefully voting for the racist McKinney. Happily much cleverer, more astute, more educated black folks have now replaced the nastiest and dimmest anti-semite in congress.
Watching McKinney blame everyone but itself for its richly deserved defeat is priceless - the gift that keeps giving. The rules of the game are exactly the same for every politico in GA. Come January McKinney will hopefully gracelessly fade into the shrill shrinking afrocentric anti-white background of black politics. And will delight folks of all races by continuing to highlight its utter irrelevance on all issues, thereby completely trashing its already seemingly pretty forlorn hopes of a second comeback.
As black folks increasingly reject the corrosive snake oil racial spoils agenda they will doubtless reap the benefits that most other folks do everday and which at the very least for a generation or so now have always been there for any one in the black community who decided to avail themselves of such opportunity.
By sct
August 19, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this
Hey trash, looks like the conservatives are getting their information from the funny pages, no big words there!
By Felicia L.
August 19, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
I have three black neighbors who vote the conservative ticket nationally and that speaks well of their intelligence. I’m looking forward to when their numbers increase.
I have a black neighbor who is a staunch Republican. Politics is all he talks about. He refuses to vote for any candidate who is a Democrat. I’ve pointed out to him that when all you’ve got running on the local level are Democrats, you still need to vote. “It’s the lesser of two evils argument,” I told him.
His response was that he would never vote for the evil within the Democratic Party under any circumstances. “You’re a man of principle I told him but your decision not to vote could leave our county with a crappy Democrat.” His response “There’s no other kind of Democrat. They’re all crappy.” The guy makes me laugh about politics which is a rarity these days.
I’ll work on him because I know he’s smart, just stubborn.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this
sct, you know, you could probably put out a newspaper coloring book for conservative Georgians, but drunks and crankheads have a hard time coloring inside the lines…
Trash.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this
Getalife-
Again, I have no use for what you liberals post in a link on this blog. How many different ways to Sunday to I have to tell you people that your opinions on what goes on in the world really are meaningless to me? I respect your right to come on here and portray it of course, but that’s about as far as I’ll go in even thinking about warming up to you and your ilk. Really.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this
FREAKING HILARIOUS!!! …. the liberal vermin are already playing with their leftist nazi id cards this morning.
And unhinged foreskin has already choked on some halal kool aid!!
I guess that Franklin’s long overdue anti-begging ordinances has stopped their only regular source of income so they’re in the Fulton County library using one of the tax payer provided PC’s.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this
Hey GHT-
Would you include Air America as “hate radio” as you so eliquently put it? They got the jackboot from Atlanta’s 1690 sans Al Freaken’s noon show of course, but would you consider that as “hate radio” too? I’m all ears sweetheart.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this
Felicia, regale us with a display of your superior intellect. We’re waiting!
By sct
August 19, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
Conservative coloring books, thats great! It will give them something to do when they are hiding under their beds in fear.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
Markus, you imbecilic trash - your post just proves my point - obviously, there was no market for liberal radio because liberals can read.
So go back to your race-baiting angry young cybertough guy act - people like you are trash, a cancer.
By getalife
August 19, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this
Of course Markus, it does not matter what your party has done to our country. As long as those evil liberals do not get their way. It is a mental illness when bashing liberals are more important than your country. You chose party over country and you are a failed American, a dictator enabler and a democracy killer. I bet you think the liberals are the enemy, don’t you?
By Markus
August 19, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this
Somebody hacked into Google! Ok, go to Google and type in “failure” and see who’s name is at the top. Oh those ever-clever bored liberals! Even I have to admit that’s pretty funny.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this
Felicia’s post shows there is now hope for the smart, indepednent thinking black folks in GA. Increasingly astute blacks are rejecting the racial spoils lies and manipulation of the housing project loving demoNcrats. NO more vote buying and Julian ‘Himmler’ Bond collectivist racist rhetoric.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this
GHT-
Air America is flailing in New York City too. Now use that brilliant mind of yours and tell me why there too. Come on oh so smarter-than-thou liberalamus.
http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2006/07/air-america-ratings-seattle-denver.html
I never knew Randi Rhoades was so ugly, LOl.
By getalife
August 19, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this
Markus,
Trying to google yourself is not going to help the voices in your head screaming, the libs are the enemy. What are you going to say when you finally wake up and see the disaster the GOP has done to our country?
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this
vileyankeetrash
this imbecilic twonk doesn’t even understand the point/role of dead air America. IT is to foment rabid liberal poison and wind up the leftist stormtroopers for elections and general BUsh hating goosetepping.
BUT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH - it isn’t working. NO ONE IS LISTENING.
Its just yet another liberal cash cow sucking up Soros’ and other irrational leftist limousine nutters hard earned currency speculating money. Funny how the left will shamelessly actually use currency speculators for their money!!
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this
Good morning, all.
First comments to Markus, since he and I generally share ideology. You still miss something by not subscribing to the papers. I receive the print versions of WSJ, AJC, and our local Gwinnett paper. I read the WSJ cover to cover - even though the news side of the paper is as leftist as the AJC - simply because it remains a comparatively honest source of information. I subscribe to the Gwinnett paper simply because I like to encourage local enterprises, and they consciously try to steer a middle course politically. As to AJC, I understand your disenchantment with the editorial side of the paper, the graceful Mr. Wooten notwithstanding. But there is so much more to the paper - an interesting and readable sports section, several good comics, entertaining coverage of the arts. Admittedly all of that is available free online; but if you never pay, free stuff goes away.
I wanted to address PF’s nutty 8:30 story and Getalife’s paranoid 9:16 post, but GHT’s rational 9:24 post preempted my clever explanation - I’ll save it for another day.
On the subject, I once had the privilege of working as counsel for a minority enterprise. My observations of the character of the people there mirrored Jim’s essay, and the rejection of a loon like Ms. McKinney is wholly unsurprising to me. I believe my co-workers at that business craved respect commensurate with their efforts and education; I do not doubt that they found the congresswoman’s demeanor inconsistent with their desires.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this
@getalife-
“It is a mental illness when bashing liberals are more important than your country”
Yeah, and you liberal jackasses feel it’s more important to undermine our WAR ON TERROR in every way possible solely for the selfish reason of getting Bush impeached.
And bashing liberals is a hobby, not a career. Unlike your fellow disgusting ilk liberals, I spend little time here and everyone knows it. In fact, my time is getting ready to be short lived again today, like the boating season.
By Felicia L.
August 19, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this
I wanted to add something to my previous comment but it seems to have drawn some fire from God Hates Trash. I’m not sure I get his/her point.
Are you saying that my appreciation for an intelligent black neighbor is “less” than intellectual? Am I detecting sarcasm in your post?
Can you please explain your response.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this
Like I said dipsheet, you are a cancer. Your (red state retards’) hatred of education and literacy has impacted the whole country. The red state slime tide has taken over the whole country. Are you happy now, you race-baiting hatefilled POS?
Aren’t all women ugly to you, Markus?
Nobody ordering pizzas this morning?
Trash.
By getalife
August 19, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this
Markus,
Its the leadership stupid.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this
Getalife-
I believe you socialist terrorist-appeasing liberals are the enemy to the future economic capitalist free-choice success to this nation and the ally of those that want us “taken down a few notches.”
There, I said it. I feel much better now. I have done my good offending liberalamus deed for the day.
By getalife
August 19, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this
You have to fight terrorism with your brain (something wingnuts lack) not kneejerk emotions.
The GOP has used the war on terror for political and financial gain.
They are the worst kind of Americans who do not give a crap about your security.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this
yankeetrashscum
keeps proving its utter political illiteracy and imbecility with its unhinged bollox.
WE CONSERVATIVES ARE THE CHEMOTHERAPY FOR THE treasonous LIBERAL TUMOURS INFESTING THE USA.
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this
Dear Felicia, do not judge all leftists by the standards presented by GHT or PF. I perceive you are new to the blog - I try to welcome all newcomers, but I have been busy this week (GHT would urge me to put on more french fries.) We have several rational leftists on the blog during the week, and you will enjoy watching TFTT cross swords with Susan, to cite one of the more earnest bright lights.
By sct
August 19, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this
Was that chemotherapy developed by using stem cell research? Evolution theories?
By getalife
August 19, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this
Your right GHT. They are trash and a cancer on this great country. Hopeless Americans.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this
lbmlaw-
Actually I buy the AJC Sunday paper, and have read everything by Monday evening. I used to subscribe to the WSJ, but I just got sick and tired of having paper after paper magazine after magazine clutter my house and the recycle container. I have laptops and PCs out the wazoo, and every TV has internet access. I pay-subscribe to a lot of online media like the WSJ for $80/yr.. that’s a lot cheaper than $100 annually for clutter. Speaking of the WSJ, a while back there was a story done on media bias, and the WSJ came in left of center. Liberals couldn’t believe it.. tells you how much they read it.
As long as internet advertisers pay the bux, free online stuff will not go away.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw …
this is hilarious - you get to be that extra bit abusive to them on Saturdays!!
Just look at the bile they’d expelled before I even looked in.
Susan has disappeared in recent days, perhaps she’s helping Hizbollocks with dispensing tens of millions of Iranian petro-dollars to Lebanese shiites. They are literally buying loyalty in Lebanon - and intimidating the media with their guns in your face if you film/photograph me in my civilian clothes official press policy.
By Dusty
August 19, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this
Should I even bother to post?
I’m white.
I’m female.
I’m Republican.
I do not subscribe to the AJC.
OH, and I was born in Georgia.
Well, I will ANYWAY. Blogs are the latest propaganda weapons used by liberal Democrats. Their squirrelly talk about Bush and the country remains the same. It is a constant barrage of snide complaints about our elected president, our voting system, our country, our protections, with obnoxious name-calling of anyone who disagrees with them. It is an organized effort to discredit the president and conservatives, not by votes but innuendo. Democrats don’t seem to notice that they are taking the country down with their efforts.
Well, so much for the soap box. I’ll leave all the cute stuff for PoFo who loves a show and Getalife who loves name calling.
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this
My apologies Markus, I failed to consider your ethics in my post. (Or perhaps I reflected my own guilt about my willingness to mine free stuff on the internet.) I should not have commented before asking further.
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this
Dear Dusty, you surely cannot credit this junk as “organized.” Sounds more like a strategy dreamed up at a wine and cheese fest.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this
GHT-
No, not all women are ugly to me. It’s just the ugly ones all happen to be liberal democrats. That’s just NOT my fault.
Oh that old dried up walrus Helen Thomas.. UGH. And Hillary with her thunderthighs. Then there’s bug-eyed Susan Sarandon. Then there’s pickel-nose Striesand. Oh I could go on, I’m just having too much fun.
Oh, no comment on Air America flaming out over the New York City airwaves, huh GHT? Yeah, that’s what I thought, POSER.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
jmb … the WSJ is renowned for its pink edged attitudes, rather like the UK FT which is pretty liberal on most political issues. I was gobsmacked years ago when the FT came out very explicitly against our heroic sojourn down to the Falkland Islands. You tend to think - unless you actually read them - that the definitive capitalist press would be at least somewhat conservative.
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this
TFTT, I have a non-joke theory on Susan. All that follows is conjecture. Susan is an attorney. She is one of those attorney’s who hides evidence - such as her professional creditials - until there is an opportunity to spring a game of “Gotcha.” Nothing evil about that, that is just the way some guys do business. Her posts suggest a trained mind, skilled as cross-examination. I sincerely suspect she has a great sense of humor (although nothing she has posted ever suggested that), just from the way she writes.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this
Felicia, I doubt you’re a rocket scientist, or someone who can detect true intellectual ability in others.
Of course my post was sarcastic, if you had more than average reading comprehension skills you would have been able to discern that, if not from my post back to you, then from other comments of mine on this board today, and saved yourself the embarassment of your second post.
Undoubtedly, you are a product of southern school systems, so some of this is not your fault.
Don’t worry though, most of my posts require some intellectual horsepower and moxie, so they go right over the head of most folks here. I do, from time to time, do a good job of dumbing them down for the native Georgians amongst us.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this
the AJC - with perhaps the exception of the obvious likes of the Detroit paper is the biggest, or at least one of the biggest “black”, and decidedly multi cultural newspapers in the US. Which explains why its circulation is in free fall.
WSB TV seems to be a “black” station too at least in terms of its news coverage.
By Felicia L.
August 19, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
Thanks for the welcome jbmlaw. I just dropped in for a short post. I agree with you. There are reasonable leftists. They’re the ones who didn’t vote for McKinney.
I visit only a smattering of blogsites. I enjoy reading political discussions. I visit a very insightful blog where questions can be posed and individuals will post answers to questions. The reason I prefer it is because responses never, and I do mean never refer to Bush, Democrats or Republicans. It simply offers insightful views on possible solutions to today’s complex problems.
GHT seems to be filled with a reflux of hatred. In my exposure to the sites I visit, that hatred seems to flow freely from the left and a little less from the right. I’m just guessing that you may be on the left, so I’m sorry if that offends you.
Maybe I’ll drop back by during the week.
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
TFTT, one thing I really like about the WSJ is the editorial page. They have a Reaganesque-Libertarian approach to the world - Robert Bartlett was probably a significant influence in my political maturation. WSJ editorial pages never had a good thing to say about the Argentine attack; that war conclusively proved Maggie’s character to US conservatives, and is why she remains revered today.
Also, if you do not read the free opinion journal “Best of the Web” every day, you are missing out. Taranto has a sense of humor even better than yours (which is about as high praise as I can offer.)
By Markus
August 19, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
Terrorists use Michael Moore’s propoganda BS films to further their causes. And the limpwrist left in this nation thinks it’s hate-speech on Bush from Dirty Harry Reid to Five Finger Discount Document Sandy Pants Berger is doing no harm.
lardass
By sct
August 19, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
Dusty, Americans with good leadership can get through difficult situations. The Yugoslavia war was flawless. Republican leadership if you remember were saying a bunch of horrible things about that war only one month into it. “No exit srategey,” “too much money” “can’t just bomb your enemy to death”, and much more, Lott and Delay had a lot to say.
But America shined bright. We ignored them! Not a single death, and our democracy was intact! Free speech and all! Leadership! In fact even after those comments by Delay and Lott, we allowed them to stay in power. (They self-destructed on other issues)
God Bless America!
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this
Markus, 2 days to read a newspaper? Edumacated in the south, I see. You ignorant, race-baiting worthless POS.
Trash.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this
jmb … Susan uses decent enough English, and is usually very “proper”, almost a clipped tone if you know what I mean. Its her anti-semitism which seems all too genuine and not at all like a wind up that I object to. Each to their own world view of course - but at least she’s a nice easy target in that area. If?? she’s an attorney she’s really not very good at presenting argument for her side when challenged.
By getalife
August 19, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this
No Dusty,
Blogs are a way to find truth in the lies and the spin. You will never admit failure and that is the truth. Your mind set filters out reality and failures. In your mind, Republicans can do no wrong.
You read wingnut opinions to feel good about the lies and spin and do not want to learn reality.
Now, tell us again how we are unpatriotic and traitors when we are the exact opposite. We care more about our troops and country more than you ever will. Now that is the truth. Blogs are a good way to vent your frustration with you wingnuts.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this
clearly godhatestrash is merely yet another hateful bigoted id from rednekkks vermin …
By Markus
August 19, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this
Happy 60th B-day Bill Clinton! Yes sir, you are the MAN! You helped enlighten this nation on getting hummers in the Oval Office while talking on the phone with national security personnel and aiming cruise missiles into a camel’s @ss to thwart terrorism. Yes sir ree bob, you are the MAN for taking terrorism to the brilliant “fair” level of making it a crime (though not a hate crime against Jews and Christians).
Hey Bill old pal, is the wifey going to be around for a quick photo-op before she returns to New York City so you can have that “special time” with some fat intern? Inquiring minds wanna know Bill.
don’t stain her blue dress
By tftt??
August 19, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Does the flatulence ever cease? Good God it sinks in here.
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
Felicia, you made my day. I am a libertarian-type, so while that means I have a few odd-ball thoughts, I mostly align with the conservatives. (My wife jokingly affirms that for a little bit I would be a “liberal,” and my genius-younger son accuses me of being a Francophile due to my affection for Berlioz-Bizet-Gounod-Offenbach-Saint-Saens-Faure-Franck-Satie-Debussy-Ravel-Dukas etc.)
Please stop back in, we often have some entertaining and uplifting discussions.
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
And Felicia, don’t be confused about the idiot “tftt???” who mirrors TFTT’s name. He has not posted a single rational thought in the history of the blog - one of those leftists you described in your note.
By Markus
August 19, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this
Yeah GHT, two days to read a Sunday paper including all ads and “Parade” inbetween boating, tennis, trail riding, and a host of other things I do between a summer Sunday AM and Monday PM, work excluded.
You must lead one sad miserable lonely worthless life. Then again, things like that breed liberalism, so I just answered my own question.
By Felicia L.
August 19, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this
GHT; Before I leave I’d like to point out that you are the epitome of intellectual arrogance disguised in hatred. You are one of the people who would leave the McKinney’s of this world to victimize her constituents. You sound as though it would be beneath your intellectual grandstanding to do otherwise.
Good day!
By sct
August 19, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this
When Bush took office there were about 10,000 Libertarians. Now there seem to be millions of them.
I wouldn’t want to admit to being a Republican right now either.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this
I know I’m a genius, but I first knew about hummers when I was 12 and I met Nancy Reagan.
I’m in my early 50s now, and I moved south in 1977 - let me tell you, if I had a nickel for every hummer that some southern gal has given me over the last 29 years, I could retire and take you all out to dinner every week.
Not that I’d want to.
My point is, I didn’t need Bill Clinton to enlighten me about hummers.
Evidently some of you retards did though.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
jmb … I do sometimes read the WSJ , although not everyday. I read the (UK) Telegraph and Times online everyday. For overseas news coverage they’re unbeatable. Even Zirqawi read the Telegraph before he sadly very suddenly died. No registration needed for most of these two papers. I usually read WSJ stories linked on Drudge. John Fund is the one I usually look for - Peggy Noonan often gets a bit pompous and is quite patronising on camera, rather like Paula Zahn. I’ll look for Taranto in future … cheers again for the kind words.
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
SCT, you are on target there. Many of us detest Bush’s leftists spending on agriculture and education, and his tolerance of such idiotic matters as steel quotas and minimum wage increases. We do attempt to distinguish ourselves from such obvious political pandering, such as is business-as-usual on the left. When Bush rejects pandering, such as his nominations of Alito and Roberts, we support him fervently.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this
I’m in my early 50s now, and I moved south in 1977 - let me tell you, if I had a nickel for every hummer that some southern gal has given me over the last 29 years, I could retire and take you all out to dinner every week.
see … IT IS REDNEKKKS VERMIN!!!
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
TFTT, http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/
By Markus
August 19, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
Yeah GHT is blabbering about Georgia as usual and how stupid rednecks are. I hate to rain on his pretty rainbow sticker, but I’m not a native of Georgia OR the South. Just damn I hate to spoil a good liberal socialist bash-fest. But back to Georgia, two of the Navy’s current Blue Angel pilots are Georgia natives. I’m sure all those brillaint Detroit or San Freaksicko or Boston folks (you know, those “enlightened” non-southerners) are a lot smarter than these stupid rednecks from Georgia.
http://www.blueangels.navy.mil/index.htm
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
Felicia, whatever.
Ms. McKinney was elected by ignorant trash - JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER CONGRESSPERSON IN GEORGIA.
Now do you get it?
By Markus
August 19, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
@sct
“When Bush took office there were about 10,000 Libertarians. Now there seem to be millions of them.”
Yeah, that’s what he gets for reaching across the isle and supporting liberal democrat policies like handing over education reform to Ted “drunk Olds u-boat commander wannabe” Kennedy. We conservatives want a conservative again.
You are more right than you know.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this
Blue Angel pilots - Georgia’s claim to intelekyool fame?
LOLOLOL! You’re pathetic, Markus, purebred trash from wherever you were born.
A cancer of hate and arrogance. Trash.
By Too Queer for the Military?
August 19, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
The only explanation why these Bush lovers aren’t in Iraq - heck, they are even letting in the racists, the retarded, and the crazies -
Markus?? Your theory???
By sct
August 19, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw, When I go to the Libertarian website I see no Bush backslapping, in fact I see very much the opposite.
The war is honestly debated between Libertarians. You see none of the “treason” hysteria you see in blogs like this one for instance.
By Felicia L.
August 19, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this
GHT; Sure I get it. You’re a self-imposed pseudo-intellectual “bigot” just like I said.
By Watta Load
August 19, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Oh my god…you people are kidding…blogging on a Saturday? What a bunch of losers…I man I can see doing it all day during the week since you folks seem to have pretty boring careers…but it’s the weekend..GET OFF YOUR ARSE AND GO OUTSIDE!!
And you Jim…stop enabling these pathetic souls.
Flame away…I won’t be back to read it…LOSERS!
By Markus
August 19, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
GHT-
With all the evil hate and wicked snake spit you’ve excreted on this blog, you are BOUND to get your just due one day pal, you can bank on it. And it won’t come from any of us. Just remember that I told you so here on this blog. Have a nice day.
By Political Foreskin
August 19, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
To all Bushphiles:
What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?
“Stay the course” is a bumper sticker, not a military mission.
“Stand down when they can stand up” is a line from the “hokey pokey” line dance song.
There is no military mission, and there never was.
“Trying to find the WMDs that aren’t there” is also not a military mission that exists in a reality plane for sane people.
“Secure the Oil fields” is what Newt Gingrich said the mission was.
The civil war in Iraq is not Bush’s fault. It existed for centuries. We cant blame the hate built up over the eons on one president.
No, Bush can only be blamed for not bringing the 911 conspirators to justice.
This is the only mandate Bush had. It’s the only thing he didn’t do.
Iraq War is a treasonous adventure by religious lunatics who somehow seized control of our government: the american taliban.
By sct
August 19, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this
Markus don’t forget about one of the most liberal acts in the history of the US. Medicare Part D.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this
I see rednekkk’s festering envious obsession with the south is actually worse on the weekends.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this
That’s cool Felicia - now why don’t you just go hang out with all those bright folks on your cul de sac - you’ve got all the answers for everyone right there.
Tell me, does one of those brilliant Blue Angel pilots live where you live - how are they coming on that cure for cancer?
By Markus
August 19, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this
Later gators, I’ve got a boat to lauch, and there aren’t too many weekends left. If our usual suspect neomarxist liberal RAT id thief comes along, it ain’t me!
Maybe we can talk GHT and “load” to go down to Cuba and help out there fellow communists who are paranoid of a US invasion:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060818/plafp/cubacastrouspolitics060818135817
Anchors away!
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
I know it won’t come from any of you, Markus - face it, you and your fellow cons here are a bunch of loudmouthed CHICKENHAWK cowards. Especially you.
By Political Foreskin
August 19, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this
Notice all the American Vigilante Groups on the Mexican Border? They have been spotlighted in the news lately, because they refuse to show how they’re spending the donations they received. “Infrared Cameras” is about all they’ll say.
The truth is that these are unauthorized militia and the money is going for weapons. Expect some sort of massacre of illegals by drunken yahoos with shiny new rifles.
I could round these Rambo idiots up with a den of boys scouts armed with sling shots.
By Michael Silly Savage
August 19, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this
Say hi to the Rubber Ducky for me, Markus ;>
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
the dominant voice of liberalism on here … rednekkks vermin and its crazed 1000+ ids and the doltish nutter unhinged foreskin!!!
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this
Dear SCT, you are misjudging libertarians by the “Libertarian Party” website. I agree that the party is controlled by isolationist loons, not obviously different from the nuts who have hijacked the Democrat party. That is why I have to vote Republican and urge a more-libertarian view of the world.
By tftt??
August 19, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this
tftt - All Flatulence, All the Time
By Things that Markus didn't know
August 19, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this
Before Monica and Bill, Markus didn’t know girls could give hummers too.
By GodHatesTrash
August 19, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this
Ok, thank you all for being such good sports today.
A southern gal calls! Goodbye until…
By jbmlaw
August 19, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
Not much substance here today, I’ll see you all next week.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this
The Minutemen are true American heroes, they should collectively be awarded the Medal of Freedom for their selfless service exposing the stark realities of the illegal invasion by mostly Mexican type illegals to the American people.
Equally deserving of the Medal of Freedom are the Swift Boat Veterans who also selflessly performed a vital national service for the American people. Exposing the still unchallenged truth about the cowardly camera toting in a war zone antics of an infamous vainglorious arrogant gigolo.
By JK
August 19, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
Political Foreskin,
It should please you to know that for the first time in [what seems like] centuries, there will be a DEMOCRAT on the ballot for the 6th district congressional seat. This year when you vote, you won’t have to choose from (a) big money Repugnican, or (b) notta. You can actually vote for Steve Sinton! Not that he has a chance to win in a district that’s all on board with the current “We hate brown people and there are no other problems to solve” mantra, but at least you have a CHOICE this year, if only on paper. Well not paper actually, but on a completely hackable computer. Anyway, GOOD LUCK! See ya at the polls!
By I am not a terrorist
August 19, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
I am sick of the GOP calling voters terrorist appeasers
Pathetic disgusting pitiful people. They are creating hate within this country now that the world hates them.
By Dusty
August 19, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this
Well, what do you know,
now we got liberals bragging about “hummers” what ever they are. I gather that it’s TWO people peforming something that liberal males think is pretty “manly”. So much for the stupid stuff.
Discrimination?? You bet. Southerners get it all the time. Yet they have given illustrious leaders to this country since the Revolution. Remember Washington, Jefferson, and Madison who got us off to a good start. Look at Congress now. You want to put Democrats like Pelosi, Shumer, Boxer, Hillary and Harry Reid in charge of this country? NO WAY. Get you a smart Southerner who can lead. There are plenty to choose from.
As to the subject of today, my black friends are not really worrying about that. They have an identity, their own self respect. Some are straight from Africa and so pleased to be Americans. They don’t know about diversity and don’t care. They simply respect all people it seems. Maybe I am just fortunate, but my friends of other races are people you enjoy. OK
Let’s stick with the good news for a change. The weather is great. Have a fine,fine weekend. Bye now.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this
I see the feminazi JK is being as dishonest as ever - given the disgusting fact that GA has had the largest national increase in free loading illegals in the last five years (see story below) its clearly very wise to make the evils and socially divisive problem of illegal immigration a real political priority, not feminazi JK’s vile racebaiting drivel “we hate brown people” which is just more leftist lies.
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/0819metillegals.html
@ terrorist appeaser
“Pathetic disgusting pitiful people. They are creating hate within this country now that the world hates them”
WELL DONE INDEED … a perfect description of appeasers - excellent post!!
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this
I noticed where GodHatesTrash mentioned girls and hummers. What I want to know is SINCE WHEN did GodHatesTrash start liking girls? Homey knows what YOU like sweetie…
By Fall Follies
August 19, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this
Time for the truth waves the flag…with a limp wrist: he’s a latent f*….he flip flops with his sassy hips…and supports the troops with his wet lips…..
He drinks the koolaid glug glug glug…and paints the flag on his buttplug….he doesn’t mind that he’s alone…for pop up goat porn gets his bone…..
(From, “So you want to be a neocon”, written by Scooter Libby)
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this
To all you liberal POS whiners
You might whine all the time about the way things are done in this country BUT one thing’s for damn sure WE REPUBLICANS ARE IN POWER and will maintain power. Your socialist Demoncrats are done on the national level, toast. Get used to it LOSERS.
By Fall Line
August 19, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this
Jim, when are you going to ask us how we feel about Andy Young anti-semite, anti-oriental, anti-arab comments?
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this
Politican Foreskin is my beeich
By I am not a terrorist
August 19, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
Yep terminator,
You are doing a heck of a job too.
Your power has lead to a dictator with no accountability who is destroying our country.
Stand proud POS.
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
In another time Andy Young, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson would’ve been riding the back of trash trucks and should’ve been for all the damage they’ve done to the poor black people of this country thru the years. Hope they burn in hell.
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this
I am not a Terrorist OR whatever the hell your name is
At least he’s doing something. That’s a hell of a lot more than I can say for that pathetic bunch of dk lking losers in the Democratic party. Hey numb nuts I saw where 4 of our GIs were killed in Afghanistan. Should we bring THEM home too?
By I am not a terrorist
August 19, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this
No, we should send you to replace them POS.
By JK
August 19, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this
Troof, while I shall ignore your personal insults (“feminazi” haha! No one who knows me would think such a thing) I will state that my comments regarding the priorities of the 6th district come directly from the mail Congressman Tom Price, MD (R-hates being a doctor because that involves helping people) sends to my house. In every piece of it, he claims “ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN OF THE PEOPLE OF THE SIXTH DISTRICT.” That and the “death tax” which only pertains to the very richest among us. Other valid issues are barely mentioned, if at all.
So if I’m lying, Troof, it’s only because I’m listening to my Congressman. I can assure you, however, that he is not listening to me, so I fail to see what your particular problem is, aside from your obvious tourette’s.
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this
OOOOOOO I am not a terrorist. I didn’t mean to make you sissy boy liberals were sooooo angry. I bet you really look cute when you’re angry sweet pants.
By Barbara
August 19, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this
Terminator and Homey the homo, you guys crack me up. Keep up the good work and keep those libs running…….
I see the libs are just up to their normal race-baiting and name calling, so all the reasonable discussions have stopped by now. Y’all have a good weekend.
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this
And BTW
WE’RE STILL IN POWER
So get over it punkA**.
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this
Bye Bye Babs. Have a good one sweetie.
By I am not a terrorist
August 19, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this
Get over there and get OBL chickenhawk or do you just run your ignorant mouth and not scarifice anything like the rest of the cowardly GOP.
I would love to see a draft to watch you cut and run POS.
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this
Oh Babs darling. Would you happen to have some lip gloss I could borrow? My #1 guy…Rednecks-America’s Al Queda is coming over tonight. vava voom!
By Hypocrit Alert
August 19, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
Oh yes Barabara, these charactors of yours are really adding to the susbstance here, I’m sure Jims thrilled.
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this
I am not a terrorist
Who’s going to draft whom? Did you forget already that WE’RE (the GO,by God P) IS IN POWER? We might just draft your pansy A*S. Wouldn’t that be hilarious? Oh yeah.
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this
Hypocrit Alert. I’ll thrill ya. Why don’t you come up and see me sometimes?
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this
Keep running your ignorant mouth POS. Real Americans will stomp a mudhole in your ugly face.
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this
Fine, lets terrorize the GOP? Or is it Political Foreskin?
Wait, you’re just killing me with your liberal attempt at humor. My side’s killing me. Stop! Stop!
A liberal is going to stomp a mudhole in someone. Oh damn that’s funny. You have to stop cutting and running to do that.
Quit, Quit I can’t breathe.
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this
Your the kind of POS that gets in a fight then sues after the hospital bill comes.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this
feminnazi JK - assuredly lovey my use of feminazi is not any kind of insult, just a compendious, factual description of your world view, accurately reflecting your very leftist, rather man hating bollox frequently posted on here. Happily I dont know you - and hopefully I never will, but understand I do mean that in the nicest possible caring way!!
80% of Georgians in even the pinko AJC poll the pinko AJC surprisingly actually quoted wanted something done about free loading illegals. So it ACTUALLY is a very pressing popular issue lovey. See how you feminazis always seem to wilfully distort the facts. Now I concede your illegal mexican type loving/pandering self might not agree with that agenda - but nontheless its the majority views that most astute politicians listen to if they want to be re-elected.
You are undeniably blatantly lying feminazi JK about the GOP hating brown people. Many of them voted to re-elect Bush in TX as Governor and nationally as President. Its simply free loading illegals, most of whom happen to be brown, that we GOP types strenuously object to.
Any way you’ve deprived your boss of your leaf blowing skills today for long enough on my account - I hope that your irritable bowel anorexia doesn’t play up again too much this weekend.
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this
At least we WILL fight. Yours is the party of the ambulance chasers, loser. Get your facts right. Make sure your brain is in gear before you start up your damn big liberal mouth.
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this
Your fighting on a blog loser. Sign up, if you really want to back up your ignorant mouth POS.
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this
I’m waiting for a response. Are you still trying to get your brain in gear? Try pushing the clutch if you know what that is.
By UGA Dad
August 19, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this
Dear Abby has a letter today about what to do about misspelled tattoos - I’m sure a lot of you folks will find it helpful…
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this
Just like I thought, what is your excuse for not doing any real fighting in the middle east coward?
All talk?
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
I got a tatoo once but they misspelled it. I wanted it to say MOM but they spelled it backwards. Must’ve been a liberal tatooist. (is that a word?)
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
Hell I want to fight the REAL enemy… LIBERALS. And what’s YOUR excuse for not being over there? Did you fail the “Don’t Ask…Don’t Tell”?
By tftt??
August 19, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
tftt, still fahrting and flatullating away, would give Medals of Freedom to fat slugs sitting on the border in lawnchairs playing with their shotguns all day.
By this standard, next thing you know tftt will want the Silver Star.
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
I did Mr. Terminator. I did, I did, I did. I couldn’t tell a lie.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
cowardly appeasing mudhole stomper …
how many id’s is that now rednekkks vermin?? 2569?
for christ’s sake bubbaturd have the stones to actually post under one consistent indictable for racial hatred of white southerners and treason name!!
admittedly your pathological obsession with so many id’s makes verbally abusing you even easier for all of us conservatives with so many different demented OBVIOUS soft target ids to pick from everyday!!
go on now rednekkks - stomp that pesky mudhole to death … you’ll feel so much better - just one thing bubbaturd - how will you know the mudhole is dead - or surrendering like you lefties want to in Iraq??!!!
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this
Yep, the coward spews liberals.
Does not have what it takes to fight the real enemy.
A Muslim says BOO and they crap their pants.
Keep fighting those libs loser.
I am glad you called us terrorists. Terrorizing the ignorant GOP is a lot of fun.
By UGA Dad
August 19, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this
I tattooed your mama’s tonsils, Terminator.
I’m not proud of it.
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
UGA Dad, remember when I tatooed YOUR tonsils?
By Hypocrit Alert
August 19, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this
How many id’s have you used here tftt?
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this
Psst worminator,
Admit it, you are scared to death and a coward.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this
“Terrorizing the ignorant GOP is a lot of fun.”
when do you finally expect to start doing that then rednekkks vermin?
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this
UGA Dad, it was that night when spring was in the air and love was in the air…
By Too Queer for the Military?
August 19, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this
Markus ducked my question - Terminator - why aren’t you in the military??
TFTT? Your excuse?
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this
fake American,
Your boy Blair is being forced to resign because he is W’s little lap dog.
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this
Psst Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
Scared of liberal trash like you? Whoa, there you go again. You’re just too funny for me girlie girl. Let me catch my breath before you send more funnies my way. Hey, come on, I can keep a secret. Are you one of them homos?
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this
Look, enough with the bs.
If you are supporting this war, get your a-ss over there and fight it.
Fighting libs on a blog shows a yellow streak a mile long.
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
Stop hitting on me worminator.
I don’t have to ask in your case.
By Michael Silly Savage
August 19, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
I am a typical conservative in that I have struggled all my life with sexual identity issues. The only way my abusive father showed affection toward me was by beating me black and blue and then raping me anally and then crying about it afterward saying I’m sorry I’m sorry. He’d buy me a comic book or a baseball glove and tell me not to tell my mother, and we’d have some quality father-son time. I’m sure most of you cons can relate, it does a number on you. Like most of you I experimented over the years - men, teenage boys, animals (hard to do in NY and San Francissy - I’m a little jealous of you country folk), etc.
But let me tell you though, heterosexuality is the way to go, at least publicly.
By Hypocrit Alert
August 19, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
Again time for the truth, how many id’s have you used on this blog?
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this
Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
Sounds like you’re wimping out again. Are you just about ready to “cut and run” there sissy boy? You wanted to be such a bad A*S, now back it up sweetie.
By UGA Dad
August 19, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this
Too queer, you are too funny - still LOL.
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this
I am backing it up, punk a-ss b-itch.
Why are you not in the military?
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
UGA Dad, and remember the stars were out…
Have a GOOD one! LOL
By Michael Silly Savage
August 19, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
Terminator, let me tell you son, I feel your pain. Wanna feel mine?
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this
I got kicked out for beating up little homos like you til they fessed up and TOLD.
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
Methinks it was the other way around.
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this
That might be from your hemmorhoids Michael.
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this
They asked you then beat the crap out of you and kicked you out.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this
It is quite staggering that seemingly one individual (of at least adult years if not mind) is incessantly and obsessively talking to itself like this.
I am working on my PC this afternoon so flipping over occasionally to witness this melt down is no effort … but all this is very reminiscent of the infamous boreloser a few years ago on Access Atlanta!!
By Kneel and Bob Boortz
August 19, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
Michael, I can definitely relate. My father was a drunk ex-Marine, an ugly filthy man that, being a Texan, would screw anything. Of course his children were fair game in a house like that.
People tell me they can hear the anger and frustration in my voice - well let me tell you it’s no fun being constantly pinned down by a fat hairy drunk Marine bent over the dining room table!
Well, it’s more fun once you’re grown up… especially if the Marine is Jeff Gannon…
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
Thank you Homey. That’s a good name for liberals…hemmorhoids. They’re certainly a pain in the A*S.
By Hypocrit Alert
August 19, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this
Again time for the truth, how many id’s have you used on this blog?
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
You certainly are the expert on pain in the a* are’t you coward?
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this
Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
Sorry sweetie but I have to go for now. It’s really been fun kicking your a*s and p** you off. Have a nice weakEND queenie. Much “love” to you and your liberal “sisters”.
By Clayton Bigsby
August 19, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this
“Is it ignorance or apathy? Hey, I don’t know and I don’t care.” Jimmy Buffet
Cowards Stand UP
No longer shall good white folks have to work, live near, and avoid conversation with those dirty ni&&ers. Now our pure white kids can sit in classrooms free of those dumb, nappy head, and gold teeth coons.
The Republicans are here, and we’ll get rid of all of you Sand ni&&ers and socialist Democrats before it’s over to make an All White World.
Republicans Rule as we’ve done for years. Quietly, silently, behind closed doors, and always under the protection of the American flag.
Stand up my cowardly friends and let’s put an end to these loud mouth, lazy, nappy head Socialist Democrats.
White Power
* Who cares about politics people. There are innocent people dying all over the world now. As a human being, as an American, and a true defender of independence and freedom. None of us will exist if we continue to allow the murder of innocent women and children all for the sake of MONEY and WAR!*
Let me wake up! I’m talking to deaf ears. Who cares! They’re just ni&&ers anyway. All have a good, day. As soon as we git rid of dem ni&&ers I can get back to playing w/the neighbors kids in my basement in peace.
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” Martin Luther King Jr.
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this
Nevermind signing up worminator.
You can’t win a fight on a blog, let alone a real fight.
By Michael Silly Savage
August 19, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this
I like this Terminator guy - he’s sounds so butch!
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
Cut and run coward.
By Homey the homo
August 19, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
OOOooooooo Fine, lets terrorize the GOP.
You really turn me on when you talk so “manly”. giggle, giggle
By Hypocrit Alert
August 19, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
He isn’t going anywhere, are you time for the truth?
By GOP = Klan
August 19, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this
Great King quote, Mr. Bigsby - I confess that I’ve never heard it before, but it describes our red state environs to a T.
Can you point me to it? I’d be grateful.
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this
Homey don’t play that.
By GOP = Klan
August 19, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this
Nevermind - found it. Thank you!!
By Michael Silly Savage
August 19, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this
Now look Fine, I’m tired of your treason - Terminator is a fine American man, and he can come hide with me under my bed any day!
By Fine, lets terrorize the GOP
August 19, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this
Mike,
Just tell him there is a Muslim at the door and he will be all yours.
By Bob Ichter
August 19, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this
What about Andrew Youngs recent outburst? It will be interesting to see what the repercussions of his racist remarks will be. Of course there will be the standard insincere apologies, but let’s look deeper. Young states, “I think they’ve ripped off our communities enough. First it was Jews, then it was Koreans and now it’s Arabs; very few black people own these stores.” First of all it is sad that very few black people own stores in their own neighborhoods. I wonder how immigrants who barely speak our language, manage in a few years to open these “Mom and Pop” stores? Oh, I know, Hard work and determination. Because “Mom and Pop” work together. Because “Mom and Pop” are not content to sit around cashing welfare checks and having countless fatherless children. The reason many of these marginalized groups have served the black community is because that was where the opportunity was and because other groups considered these areas to be too dangerous to run a business in. The Black community is lucky any business owner would risk his investment [ and life ] locating there. Andrew Young should be ashamed and should stop blaming other groups for the plight of Black Americans
By Fred
August 19, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this
Remember when the Dixie Chicks gave Bush what for? And their concerts continued to sell out despite red state radio bans.
The Dixie Chicks brought the Bush Administration to it’s knees. Gotta love those dixie chicks.
Their latest CD is killer. Funny how Americans now lookd to the Dixie Chicks for truth instead of the Administration. Nobody believes a word Bush says anymore, but they poor over the lyrics to the latest Dixie Chick song to see what’s really happening.
Gotta love those Dixie Chicks.!!
By getalife@yahoo.com
August 19, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this
And now for some reality from the other Joe
By getalife
August 19, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this
Oops, please do not spam email that address, it is not mine.
By alan
August 19, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this
as a Black american who originally registered as a Republican and now is a Democrat, the only thing I have to say regarding this is what a pastor told me, “White people think they have all the sense.” The too, my conclusion after reading the comments is “White people.” That two words sums up the entire matter.
By Alan
August 19, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
As a Black american who originally registered as a Republican but switched to the Democratic party, I remember what a pastor told me after reading the previous comments. It was “White people think they have all the sense.”
The following two words sums up everything regarding your column, “White people.” That says it all.
By time for the truth
August 19, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this
poor old dumb Alan …
that’s exactly what you get when all you do is listen to bigots like the micky mouse hustler the non-Reverend Sharptongue. Perhaps if ALL black preachers actually attended a proper academically rigorous seminary like the C of E or the Catholic church always insist on sending their properly educated clergy through you might have gotten more sensible non-bigoted advice.
Glad we made you a litle narked today anyway!!
By Hypocrit Alert
August 19, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
Again time for the truth, how many id’s have you used on this blog?
By Fred
August 19, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this
Time for the truth is obviously an inbred drowning victim of a very shallow DNA pool. It’s amazing how he could have drowned in that little bit of sewer water, but paramedics say they see that sort of thing all the time.
And I think it’s a damn shame.
By Fred
August 19, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this
Tiger Woods is on a tear today. He’s a field of one. Yankees ripped Boston a new one today too.
By Jim Wooten
August 19, 2006 06:06 PM | Link to this
To the person who has recently begun to post here as Stormfront, UGA Dad, Michael Silly Savage and various others:
Your posts are intentionally distasteful and contribute essentially nothing to the conversation, except to invite hate and scorn. If you persist, I’ll do my best to block your posts. If you have something constructive to say, please do. If not, plenty of other sites are available.
By The Terminator
August 19, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this
Fred, Fred obviously you’re behind the times concerning the Dicksie Chics. They just cancelled SEVERAL concerts because “fans” were saying screw you and not buying their tickets. They were scheduling more concerts in Canada…probably so those amnesty-seeking traitorous liberal cowards that ran to Canada instead of serving in Vietnam (later pardoned by that idiot Jimmy “Goober” Carter) can fill the concert halls. They sure as hell ain’t gonna fill them here anymore. I didn’t want to pop your “happy” bubble but just thought I might catch you up-to-date on YOUR Dicksie Chics. So turn up your Dicksie Chics CD and have a great weekend Fred.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this
intentionally distasteful and contribute essentially nothing to the conversation, except to invite hate and scorn
Well Jim,
Maybe you should write about Cheney’s or the GOP comments on the American voters if you really feel that way. They are all about hate and scorn.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this
This individual that we’ve been dealing with for a while now off and on is probably using some IP spoofing software if different IP addresses are showing up constantly. Myself and at least one other regular here recognizes this pattern from message boards of many years ago.
This individual carries on conversations with him/herself when the blogs are slow, like apparently what happened yesterday afternoon.
This individual will pose as a conservative and say nasty hateful things in an attempt to throw conservatives into a negative light.
This individual will also post hate-filled vitriol in an attempt to stir up anger from conservatives. Fortunately for the most part, nobody has bit.
We are dealing with someone who is emotionally unstable, someone who is obsessed with the thought that conservatives are out there saying anything negative about the left, and is just determined to drag this board down to nothing but insults in the hopes that it will be taken down. This individual is at war with conservatives and is doing everything to shut down the voice of conservatives, including blogs.
This is in no way an inflammatory post against this individual meant to start something. My recommendation for everyone here is to just completely ignore this multiple-ID’d person, as hard as it is. By now hopefully most have learned to recognize the pattern of this individual. After all the ID stealing lately, there was a reason I said a week or so ago to “get to know your fellow blogger.” I knew this latest fiasco was coming. I’ve seen it before.
By Jim Wooten
August 20, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this
I do really feel that way, getalife. You may think their comments as you characterized them, but they are not vile, vulgar or racially offensive.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this
Oh, and everyone, even reasoned liberals, have a great Sunday! I’m out until 5pm or so.
By sct
August 20, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this
This person should do what “Time for the Truth does.”
Make sure when you are using multiple personalities to use a different e-mail address.
BTW Markus, I love the “poor me” routine.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this
The haggish deranged obsessive Bush hater Sheehan is really starting to lose it. Now she and her unkempt rabble are literally stalking American heroes like Karl Rove.
From Austin Texas … 20/8/06 One woman was arrested during a scuffle with police after Sheehan and the anti-war demonstrators rushed toward the closed doors and kept chanting loudly after the guests went into the dinner.
Hopefully they’ll be back to their much ignored utterly irrelvant food fast which virtually no one in real America gives a flying toss about!!
Rove was speaking at an Associated Republicans of Texas dinner, where ticket prices started at $200 per person and raised an estimated $250,000. He was not in the Renaissance Austin Hotel lobby during the reception.
“I want him arrested. He planned the war that killed my son,” Sheehan, referring to Rove, told the officers guarding the door.
The funniest moment however occured as one of the unkempt screeching peacenick rabble was thrown out: “Pat, did you get her check before she left?” Rove quipped to the GOP group’s executive director, Pat Robbins, as the crowd of 300 laughed, the newspaper reported.
“I don’t question the patriotism of our critics. Many are hardworking public servants who are doing the best they can. Some of them are people looking for a free meal,” Rove said, drawing more laughs.
If nothing else this pathetic incident proves that Rove has an excellent sense of humour.
By sct
August 20, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
Nice of you to only point out the liberals jerks Jim.
What substance did the other clowns add to this discussion?
Homey the homo and the Terminator.
Poor me.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this
Jim,
True, but their words are used to terrorize the American voters and are written for all the world to see.
Blogger’s words here does not get that much attention.
Welcome to the blogoshere. It is pretty tame compared to the main thread at the Huffington Post.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this
You know that your contributions are really getting to the left when they continuously single you out for personal antipathetic attention. sct I actually dont have ANY multiple id’s on here. Some of us don’t need to play any such puerile games to make our points or post witty, entertaining banter. Its actually better to have just one id then you know exactly just whom to agree or disagree with.
As for getabrain’s churlish anti-democratic drivel this morning - TOO FUNNY!!! The notion that the elected President and VP are full of hatred and scorn for the voters is utterly absurd. Clearly these lefties cannot tolerate ANYTHING that literally isn’t their obsessive Bush hating kool aid message. Bush and Cheney do NOT ever peddle “vile, vulgar or racially offensive” messages.
Legitimate, even very sharp political differences are fine but rednekkks or who ever the main id doing this is very likely intimidating others off this PUBLIC forum.
Ladies and perhaps impressionable teens who may be interested in reading, if not posting do NOT need to be confronted with the kind of unremitting crudity and boorishness perpetrated by one lone, lonely nutter.
By Jim Wooten
August 20, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
SCT, I did not know this person to be a liberal. Frankly, I wouldn’t have read them that way.
Getalife, it’s not the personal give-and-take, or even the name-calling, much of which strikes me as sport among spirited debaters. It’s something that strikes me as plain and pointless maliciousness. If that’s the Huffington Post, so be it. I’d urge this particular poster to go there if that’s the type blog he/she enjoys.
By Think Tank Timmy
August 20, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this
It’s so obvious who the trolls are. Just look at the volume of posts by a relative handful of bloggers: that’s your trolls.
These clowns make death wishes or some variation of a vengeful oath, and they always have a hateful tone. Always.
They post the same way, like this: “Boy, did I get one over on so and so. It’s so easy to manipulate bloggers.”
Trolls always refer to past posts where they really “got” someone. Obvious. No shortage of trolls. Ever.
The trolls are almost always conservative. Markus (with the 1k word comments), Timeforthetruth (talent is rare, sir, so be rare), Realist (thinks he has to reply to every post), + Ugotta (Simply simple), and RW (who is the worst example of a troll I’ve seen in ten years), and @@ (???) are almost certainly trolls.
They simply post too much not to be trolls. Give it a rest, people. We get it: you’re passionate about blogging, you think it matters if your ID (double entendre here, trolls) is shaken.
You’re all control freaks who have to settle everything every moment of the day.
You’re group-think victims of the motley voices imprisoned in your own brains.
Note to demented ones: there’s nobody there, just you.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this
I note that getatinybrain predictably points to far worse leftist behaviour elsewhere to justify very poor leftist behaviour on here.
as for the repeated unhinged parroting about “terrorising voters” - that isn’t political debate - its just INTOLERANT UNDEMOCRATIC lunacy!!
and the childishly sullen sct whining about how “only” lefty jerks are being fingered is happily keeping the sniggering going very nicely.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this
funny how braindead tommy only singles out and names conservatives for his hilarious hissy fit!! this is a conservative blog - so conervatives are here to make conservtaive. centre right points. conservatives are not welcome on many liberal blogs if they are too critical of bloggers and leftists. here liberals are tolerated, despite whatever they might say.
how the hell braindead tommy actually can sit there and arrogantly dictate to total strangers on a public forum how many/few posts are “acceptable” beggars belief!!
By getalife
August 20, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this
Well, I think it is “time for the lies”. He seems to get very upset with the truth and snaps like a twig.
By Think Tank Timmy
August 20, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this
TFTT is a common troll type found on every single chat room I’ve ever visited. Every post is a hack of someone else’s post, or a link to something. Not one original thought, you do not have to read another word from TFTT, you already know exactly what he’s going to blog: Some threat, some bitter acrimony about nothing, some bragging about how he manipulated someone and knew they’d fall for it cause he’s some sort of superior blogger and then throw in some party line, and voila: timefortheturd.
The trolls never get it. They never get the slant that Mr. Wooten is going for, so they either “ditto”, or they comment obliquely before they launch into their diatribe.
The sheer volume of posts always gives a troll away.
Tdid studies about this, and the trolls apparently experience a “high” and really, REALLY enjoy posting, and become like monkeys hitting a narcotic lever over and over and over again in a double blind drug experiment.
That explains the volume. Trolls always comment about how much fun they’re having getting the “better” of other bloggers. Sound familiar?
Also, a troll is incapable of self deprecating humor. ANother dead giveaway.
AND THATS YOUR TROLLS.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this
poor old getatinybrain … dishonest to the last … “the truth” according to you is anything you far leftist Bush haters just endlessly/emptily assert. as ever you dont actually debate the awkward points - you just hurl abuse.
perhaps braindead tommy will add you to his list of “trolls” - nah -you’re a far leftist and there aren’t any far leftist trolls on here according to this “demented control freak group-think victim of the motley voices imprisoned in what passes for its own brain”. (recognise any of the troll like abuse there tommy?”)
By Think Tank Timmy
August 20, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this
Alert: Right now: Leiberman on Face the Nation….McCain is on Meet the Press….both are tripping on the question of what we do if Iraq falls into civil war…..must see tv.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this
braindead tommy … watching you laboriously and anally ‘innoculate’ yourself against any criticism whilst denouncing beastly conservative “trolls” is freaking hilarious!! watching you refuse to equally pompously denounce leftist trolls like rednekkks and getabrian etc but sneer endlessly at yours truly is priceless. such blatant double standards are common amongst the kool aid drinking left!!
please try and post much more of your troll like bollox here every day. the more soft targets the merrier!!
next time - actually try and debate me (or any other conserative) on some of the political points I’ve very recently made (or they have) - see diversity and mckinney’s anti-semitism on friday and yesterday’s post on mckinney’s blame game.
I’m off now to ride my bike, see ya …
By getalife
August 20, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
And now for the truth
Deal with it “lies”.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this
lies,
There is no debate when you will not admit reality.
By Clayton Bigsby
August 20, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this
Conservative_1:PRESERVATIVE 2: dispose to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions
Websters definition of conservative sure does sound like the old Southern Confederate way of thinking. Unfortunately this will always be apart of the American fabric. White Power
Unfortunately before the colonist settled in the Americas, colorless people felt the need to impose their way of life on the rest of the world. This way of life is based on violence, arrogance, disrespect for humanity, racial ideology, and greed. This conservative way of life has created hate all over the world and within this country toward innocent people. Democracy does not mean support a murderous government and it’s policies. Colorless people stand up for humanity, peace, and family. Don’t be fooled by greed and racial arrogance. We all have to live in this world, someone please show some courage. If there is no change, we all will die at the hands of these murderous colorless people with no regard for God or humanity.
Stop the WAR!
By @@
August 20, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this
Jim:
I enjoy having fun with words and phrases. I stopped by, saw your topic. I know getalife who is posting here is focused on the Republican’s COC (Culture of Corruption). After viewing your topic, I wanted to draw on the COC abbreviation and revise it to define the Democrat’s (Culture of Cultivation) and say that I have been reassured by the “Black Middle Class” who have opted to “sprout” independent of the fertilizer tossed out by the liberal-elite party.
Of course, this kind of observation and support of America usually gets me branded as a racist by the left. It doesn’t matter what they say, I know what’s in my heart. It’s hope for our Nation united.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this
@@,
I am glad you brought that up. A dictatorship allows corruption and the non enforcement of the laws written by the same people who do not enforce them.
This is reality. Your party is doing these things along with putting our troops in the middle of a civil war with a failed neo con plan.
I have to ask these basic questions. Why in the world do you keep supporting these people? Why do you not want a change of direction and some accountability? Are you choosing your party over your country?
By Think Tank Timmy
August 20, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this
Kerry just appeared on Stephanopolus. He still is a total embarrassement for the democrats. He just cant deliver a line. Him and Dean need to go away or we’ll never ever recover. Dean is a joke. Democrats still leaderless at midterm. Hillary is unelectable. Is Cynthia McKinney available for ‘08? She’s about all we have left.
Michael Moore is my next choice. then the dixie chicks. then pee wee herman.
The democratic field is not pretty.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this
Tim,
You are correct. The Dems need new leadership. To achieve accountability for W, there is only one choice in November.
By jbmlaw
August 20, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. A matter not exactly on topic, but I am surprised that nobody mentions the interesting candidacy of Harold Ford, Jr. in adjacent Tennessee. (Disclaimer, I was subpoenaed as a fact-witness in his father’s criminal trial 15 years ago. I am not conscious of any animus, but I disclose to allow the reader to judge.)
Ford Jr. is not nearly as leftist as the rest of his family; those of you who use a left-right political scale would find him somewhere around Lieberman, and mod-con on mostly the same issues. I begin to believe the Democrats could be saved by black moderates - people who disassociate from the moonbats, and otherwise present the black middle-class image Jim covers in his essay.
Question for the leftists: how do you view Harold Jr, if you view him at all?
By getalife
August 20, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
Don’t view him but I did read Kerry’s transcript this morning and LOL when I read this:
Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney.
I would have to disagree with Tim. His words were spot on but I did not see him deliver them.
By jbmlaw
August 20, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this
Hey Jim Wooten, I found a way to silence the vile-posters - ask them a question that requires thought!
By getalife
August 20, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this
Here is a thought:
“So the best thing to do , from a republican stand point, is to profit greatly off of this opportunity by running oil prices through the roof, rake in huge sums of profit by supplying weapons , contractors, consultants, re-builders, specialist and a plethora of other things they can use war to profit from. With this civil war gig, the US has a great excuse to sidle in thousands of more military personnel, get congress to authorize billions more of tax payer money to be spent ( at the very companies many political war profiteers control) and finally help Israel with the final conflict in the middle east, full attacks on Iran and Syria , all done in the name of protecting Americans and spreading democary.
Lord, aint it a great country we live in?? Where the same billionaire CEO’s who push for wars and military conflicts, for illegal aliens as cheap labor, for sending US jobs overseas, providing text for policies that will finally removing all traces of any social safety nets and education for American citizens so corporations can further drive up unemployment to further drive down wages, and lest not forget for policy that enables company provided benefits to be no more than a distant memory in the history books, if they even allow it to be mentioned in them, that is, if , anyone can afford to go to school when they are done with the US.
Damn George, lets give them good old boys another well deserved tax break , or even one of them there invisible tax rebates!! You know, like when a company doesn’t pay any taxes, but can get 30 million back??? Yep, look around folks, they are out there. And if you happen to look, you’ll see who owns those companies, and the boards they share on.”
By clarkslawga
August 20, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this
Think Tank Timmy,
TFTT is actually just a pathetically lonely soul with nothing more to do in life but spend SEVEN FREAKIN DAYS OF THE WEEK, EIGHT HOURS A FREAKIN DAY pretending to be a wise old Brit here to put all of us stupid Yanks in our place.
Seven days a week, eight hours a day trying desperately to matter.
And next it will start squealing about “you are a poopy pants and won’t address my brilliant substantive points. You must be a far left librul.”
All the while never realizing that we have all heard everything it has to say from Coulter and Hannity in a far more entertaining way and that it does more damage to its cause than any media bias or, left wing argument with its nastiness and inability to type one sentence without some kind of bile spewing out.
Even fellow conservatives who try and let it in on the idea that it may actually be part of the problem people have with conservatives rather than helping the cause are branding as “left wing vermin”.
And its best attempt at humor is recreating my name as Anal Loserga. Pretty creative, huh? Not exactly Lenny Bruce.
TFTT is a pathetic loser and a lost cause.
Fake.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this
Your rebuttal jbmlaw?
By getalife
August 20, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
I guess jbmlaw cut and ran.
{Here is Kerry](http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/Politics/story?id=2334709&page=1)
By getalife
August 20, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this
Here is Kerry
By @@
August 20, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw:
I’ve watched Harold Ford, Jr. in interviews and have to say, I was impressed with how he presented himself and avoided implementing the usual partisan attacks.
His voting record on two issues concerned me. He opposed reauthorization of The Patriot Act. That, in my opinion, is irresponsible in lite of the threat we now face.
He also opposed the nomination of Judge Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court stating that Alito supported the expansion of executive authority and government intrusion at the expense of personal freedoms. I’ve seen no evidence of intrusion and that argument has yet to be proven, but I guess we’ll soon find out. I’m assuming the recent ruling on the wiretapping issue will go before the Supreme court.
Liberal judges have controlled the Supreme Court rulings for too long. I’m pleased that a balance has finally been established through recent appointments.
I’ll end my viewpoint on a positive note in favor of Ford.
Ford drew criticism last year for helping pass the bankruptcy bill, which I was in favor of. Promoting individual responsibility is a plus.
He supports extending the tax cuts on dividends & capital gains. Put that one in the positive column because it benefits citizens who invest, while improving the overall economy through investments.
His stance on the illegal immigration issue is a tough one. I’m in favor of that as well.
I like his views on domestic policy, but I’m uncomfortable right now with his views on foreign policy. There are a couple of other issues that he has voted on. I’m flexible on those issues, so no need to address them.
All that being said, the fact that Maxine Waters who I cannot tolerate, had this to say about Ford:
“There will be those black elected officials who decide they need to be more conservative so they can attract more white voters who happen to be more conservative, and they are willing to do whatever it takes. It’s going to place them in terrible conflict and they are going to have to figure out how to deal with that at some point.”
If Maxine thinks Ford gets in the way of the conflict her liberalism promotes, I’ve gotta like the guy. He’s moderate in my opinion. Something the Democrats need. Problem is, there aren’t enough like him in their party.
Sorry for the lengthy post.
By Think Tank Timmy
August 20, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this
BUSH on the IRAQI CIVIL WAR:
“Civil War? Did you say, ‘Civil War’? It aint a civil war till we say it is. Was it a civil war when the Germans fired on Fort Sumter? HELL NO! Was it a civil war when the Spanish guillotined Marie Antoinette? HELL NO! When the going gets tough………shame on me!!!”
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
stinkyseptictanktimmy and getamaggotbrain sure are very entertaining marxist loving kool aid addicts.
its hilarious to see the ameoba brained left floundering around on here endlessly asserting the “truth” according to the Munich Beer Hall Putsch style slobberings of the greasy obsessive Bush hater Soros/the obese tub of treasonous lard Moore/the haggish sickster Sheehan et al.
and then … everybody say Hi very nicely to it … anal loser predicktably slithers in yet again like a naughty little compulsive obsessive baby parrot having been freed from extra weekend skool detention after doing its weekend job cleaning the khazis with its kosher toothbrush at the posh Buckhead synagogue to pay for its now thrice deferred barmitzvah at its local double wide synagogue for mommy’s spotty sheltered spoiled never left home boys !! A veritable jewish prince of the manufactured housing castles.
the name calling on here with certain far left liberals is actually all that can ever pass for meaningful debate with them, so a caring, compassionate conservative should never be so cruel as to disappoint these pathetic America haters or our very own Ripley’s botched circumcision from hell parrot.
By Richard
August 20, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
Oh sure .. Just what we need .. a Jim “Who” Wooten to tell us about what the black middle class wants or who it identifies with. Does the defeat of Lieberman declare that the jewish middle class no longer identifies with war-mongering jewish politicians?
Does the angst, ire, and disgust at George Bush declare that the white middle class no longer identifies with white idiotic near-brain-dead politicians?
Quite obvioulsy, Mr. Wooten has too much time on his hands and has chosen to spend it waxing poetically about what he thinks about people he truly knows nothing about.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this
What a load of rubbish “lies”.
By Richard
August 20, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this
Let me also add the Mr. Wooten and his “common sense” conservatives have been WRONG about every critical issue they’ve spoken about. From the miserably FAILED war on Iraq to global warming to “the world stands with us” to the selection of Bush to you name it.
There is little to nothing that conservatives, from so-called “common sense conservatives” to so-called “compassionate conservatives” to just everyday conservatives. They have led this nation into decline and left America without friends and allies.
The so-called “coalition of the willing” has been reduced to nothing but Americans dying.
They’ve led this nation into the worst military blunder in American history and selected the worst president in American history.
Mr. Wooten and his conservative cohorts are completely incapable of honest debate on the tragedy that is them .. so they spend their time talking about McKinney.
Mr. Wooten is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the clear and undeniable disaster THEY have visited upon this nation.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this
Very true Richard and W does not want to give up his power:
President Bush, citing his authority as Commander in Chief of the armed forces and his inherent constitutional power over foreign affairs, today ordered a postponement of the 2008 presidential election in order “to protect the American people in our war on terror.”
By Markus
August 20, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this
Well well well. Looks like in my absence we’ve had another liberal meltdown. Our resident freak thinks that conservatives that blog on a CONSERVATIVE blog are “trolls.” Isn’t that special.
No word if said liberal snake thinks that the jackholes that spit their snake venom over on demopigunderground.com.. I mean democraticunderground.com are “trolls” as well.
Only a neomarxist islamofascist terrorist-loving liberal freakshow salon.com wannabe would come on a conservative blog and attempt to establish domination of some sort.
Hey extremist liberal pigs, I’ll tell you asshats one more time: if you don’t like what you read, if it upsets you THAT MUCH that conservatives have their own blog on AJC here, then LEAVE. You so will not be missed.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this
Thank you George Steponanoctopus. Thank you for showing the @ss of the current mainstream democrat party like John “voted for the war but against it” Kerry. I love it. I love the Barbara Boxerwads, the Dirty Harry Reids, the Nancy “old dried up ex-60s hippy lib” Pelosis, the Howard “Republicans are evil” Deans, and on and on and. I love these guys. I love watching the freakshow fringe left eat one of it’s own who just six years ago was a demoGod. One thing is interesting though: all the hell raising about Lieberman and supporting the war, yet not one PEEP from the jackass left about Hitllary’s stance as a Hawk. Oh it’s going to be a fun November this year.
By Richard
August 20, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this
By the way, since Mr. Wooten in his truly unthinking column has allowed me the opportunity to have so much fun .. I might add that Cynthia McKinney was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT on what the mindless attack on Iraq would bring. She was also ABSOLUTELY CORRECT on the fraud of electronic voting, which cannot be disputed today, and she was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT on Bush connections to 9/11.
She can also visit England and be respected by its citizens which cannot be said of Bush, who the forever incorrect Mr. Wooten supported.
In fact, given that Mr. Wooten supported the worst president in American history .. should it not be asked .. what the heck does he know about elections, politics, or who anyone, black, white, or purple should vote for?
I’m asking .. Mr. Wooten, given that you are part of the cabal that has left America isolated from civilized nations, destroyed America’s influence, respect, and stature to the point where it is no longer the “leader of the free world” … what do you know about what black people want and what do you think you know about politics or what is best for America
By GLC
August 20, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this
Up to this point I have disagreed with 100% of your opinions I have read. However, this one is on the mark. African-American voters have matured over the last thirty years. Not only do they discern rhetoric from performance, they will make their voting decision accordingly. The outcome of this election bodes well for what’s to come in our body politic.
For the record, I am a native African-American Georgian.
By Richard
August 20, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this
Markus,
Thanks for that typical conservative non-thinking response .. which is why conservatives do better on sites just for them, so they can spout all manner of ignorance unencumbered by truth, logic, or common sense.
Incapable of addressing issues .. just spout off some psuedo-macho crap even in the face of an America that is rejecting the conservative agenda .. sounds reasonable.
What are Cheney’s poll numbers .. about 8%?
We’ve been in Iraq and Afghanistan longer than World War II lasted .. and now we’re scrapping the bottom of the barrel and recalling troops that have been out of the military for years. That is tiny Afghanistan fighting with weapons from the stone age, and tiny Iraq which had been under sanctions for 12 years and left them virtually unarmed .. and neither Iraq nor Afghanistan are getting any better.
Yep, I can see the problem is that liberals need to stay off conservative blogs. Sure, that will make it all better.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this
Hey Dick,
Nobody cares what neomarxist Muhammadette McKinney has ever said. She’s a liberal loonbat and even those in the 4th knew that and threw her out on her weave, for a SECOND and now final time.
All that other psychobabble you mumble is your opinion. Besides, like we should give a flying pig what France thinks about us. Or Canada for that matter. They couldn’t fight their way out of a used condom.
By Michael Silly Savage
August 20, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this
Gosh - looks like we had a Mr. Wooten (conservative) meltdown yesterday. Being a leading conservative talk show host (The Savage Nation) and writer (Liberalism is a Mental Disorder), I am reasonable well-thought out American conservative
Do what I do Jim - get some call screeners, and talk only to conservative sycophants, or hang up on anybody you don’t agree with and then verbally abuse them for the next hour. You’ve plenty of them here - you can maybe have a blog where tftt and Markus stroke themselves and each other all day.
This open blog format is obviously not what conservatism is all about - you know, that pesky freedom of speech and all that.
Good idea though about having every other column about Cynthia McKinney - we conservatives, even us Jewish ones, know what that is all about, and we appreciate it. Start your column in the gutter, and your sycophants will help you keep it there.
I’ll yield the floor to tftt and Markus, great spokespeople for our side. I have a plane to catch this evening.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this
Hey Dick…
“We’ve been in Iraq and Afghanistan longer than World War II lasted”
You wanna expand on that a little bit, liberalamus? I’ll debate anything with you here, from the validation of tax cuts to why your pathetic cretin ilk can never seem to win elections.
Your move, sport.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this
Uh-oh, it looks like some night vision googles that the IDF found on dead Hellbollah soldiers was obtained through the UN via the UK to fight drugs.
And the loonbat liberal left thinks the UN is competent. Laughable.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/08/20/MNGK9KLVH41.DTL
By Markus
August 20, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this
MSS-
Since you’re flying this evening, if that’s not a typical liberal loonbat lie on this board as usual, write a message on how you really feel about Bush and what you want to happen to him and leave it there.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this
@ the wacked out Michael Savage groupie
hope your ‘plane’ crashes and burns (figuratively not literally) as quickly as HiTllary’s presidential hopes are going to when it finally declares its utterly wanted, worthless candidacy.
Certainly even Dr Savage’s dog seems to be much more politically astute and more articulate than you are bubbakins.
Make sure this time that you jump UNDER the MARTA bus on your way back to the hospital tonite.
Hey … this name calling thang is real easy when you do it to simpleton liberal wankers!!
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this
@ the wacked out Michael Savage groupie
hope your ‘plane’ crashes and burns (figuratively not literally) as quickly as HiTllary’s presidential hopes are going to when it finally declares its utterly UNwanted, worthless candidacy.
Certainly even Dr Savage’s dog seems to be much more politically astute and more articulate than you are bubbakins.
Make sure this time that you jump UNDER the MARTA bus on your way back to the hospital tonite.
Hey … this name calling thang is real easy when you do it to simpleton liberal wankers!!
By Richard
August 20, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
Markus,
My move?
The war in Iraq and Afghanistan have lasted longer that World War II lasted .. and you need .. what? .. more information? You couldn’t figure out the argument and how to respond by yourself?
Typical .. but let me help you out ..
How long did World War II last?
How long have we been fighting the tiny nations of Iraq and Afghanistan?
Add and subtract and the answer will just amazingly appear .. like magic.
Let me expand a bit and post it to you a bit differently .. Neither you or your conservative ilk understand the LIMITS of military power or the LIMITS of Americans penchant for war .. in spite of the clear examples demonstrated in Korea, VietNam, Somalia, and now Iraq.
We do better much better attacking nations the size of Vermont, ie; Grenada and Panama, but when the countries get the size of Ohio .. we lose.
The mindless war on Iraq, which is not even remotely conscrued as a “war on terror” has only resulted in empowering IRAN. We’ve spent half a trillion dollars, thousands of US troop lives, with many thousands more maimed for life, and lost the respect of the entire world to hand Iraq to Iraan like a wonderful Christmas present.
Now, hopefully you don’t need any further illumination of what I just said. Debate, if you choose to call it that, the wonderful accomplishments of the attack on Iraq and tell men how isolating America has served any sane purpose.
Your move dude.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
Uh oh, the UN says the Lebanon-Isreali “truce” might not last. Well no s*. All that feel-good false appeasement Carter-like “peace” is nothing but a sham. If Hellbollah can’t disarm like the UN told them to two years ago under 1559, then Israel needs to wipe them out. But that’s kinda hard, because those brave soldiers of Muhammed hide behind women & children when the big guns show up.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060820/tsnm/mideastdc
By Markus
August 20, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this
The left’s talking points to a T:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22127&only
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this
fighting a mohammedan fascist insurgency is NOTHING like the same as fighting an all out war against the nazi axis powers. The commies who were crushed by the heavily outnumbered Brits in the nearly ten year long Malayan insurgency know how a proper insurgency should be fought. But mohammedan sensibilities wont allow the proper tactics to be used to swiftly win. And the ACLU nutter nazis would screech louder than they did over the very minor matter of Abu Ghraib.
By Richard
August 20, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this
Oh, by the way .. while you adding up fingers to figure out if the war on Iraq has lasted longer than our involvement in World War II .. see if you can add up if Bush has borrowed more foreign capital than ALL PREVIOUS US PRESIDENTS COMBINED?
It’s going to take a lot of fingers to accomplish this .. and perhaps you can figure out if CHINA owns the US debt .. which doesn’t take counting on fingers .. just the ability to search for information yourself.
I know, I know .. you’re having trouble figuring out how long WWII lasted .. so perhaps you can ask Jim “Mighty Carnack” Wooten for the answer.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
Well hello, swinging Richard! I was happy sitting on the sidelines today but I couldn’t resist the temptation to respond to your little rant about “Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, and Iraq”.
Wanna know why we “lost” 3 of those PAST wars? They were executed by DemoNcraPs! If that dumbas Harry Truman had left Gen. MacArthur alone he would’ve cleaned up that crap over there and we wouldn’t be faced with a nuclear threat in North Korea today. I don’t think I have to tell you what a total DUMBAS Lyndon Johnson was! Look up dumba*s and there’s ole LBJ! And thanks to that “tough” hippie commander-in-chief Bill Clinton we cut and run in Somalia, after “commander-in-chief” Clinton wouldn’t give our guys THE TANKS AND EQUIPMENT THEY ASKED FOR” and we had our dead troops dragged thru the streets. He was too busy getting BJs under his desk.
And Richard, why did your DemoNcraP leaders “cut and run” from Iraq while our troops are still there. They are getting NO SUPPORT from the DemoNcraPs AND THEY KNOW IT!!! Ask Joe Lieberman about the DemoNcraPs cutting and running! He can tell you a lot about that.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
“The war in Iraq and Afghanistan have lasted longer that World War II lasted .. and you need .. what? .. more information? You couldn’t figure out the argument and how to respond by yourself?”
Yes, 1941 to 1945 I learned that in six grade… or maye 5th. Let me ask again, do you want to EXPAND on what the difference is between both fronts in WWII and what we are dealing with in Afghanistan and Iraq today? Let’s see how bright you are, boy.
“Let me expand a bit and post it to you a bit differently .. Neither you or your conservative ilk understand the LIMITS of military power or the LIMITS of Americans penchant for war .. in spite of the clear examples demonstrated in Korea, VietNam, Somalia, and now Iraq.”
We won Korea the last time I checked. South Korea is free. Vietnam could have been won with more force, but we miscalculated their resolve as well as how much China and Russia was helping them out. Remember, it wasn’t until we started bombing the hell out of Hanoi before they came to the table. Somalia, I have no comment over. The UN can’t even handle that one.
“We do better much better attacking nations the size of Vermont, ie; Grenada and Panama, but when the countries get the size of Ohio .. we lose.”
We tie our own hands behind our backs.
“The mindless war on Iraq, which is not even remotely conscrued as a “war on terror” has only resulted in empowering IRAN. We’ve spent half a trillion dollars, thousands of US troop lives, with many thousands more maimed for life, and lost the respect of the entire world to hand Iraq to Iraan like a wonderful Christmas present.”
The HELL it isn’t. Do you remember in 1990 when Saddam invaded Kuwait? What, do you think that was just some small skirmish? The madman envisioned an entire Middle East dominated by him. Kuwait was a test. A little here, a little there. We stopped him after 12 years of toothless UN resolutions. But we sure got Lybia’s leader to snap to attention on weapons of mass destruction seeking, didn’t we? I’m not concerned about Iran. Israel will deal with them like they did 26 years ago if need be.
“Now, hopefully you don’t need any further illumination of what I just said. Debate, if you choose to call it that, the wonderful accomplishments of the attack on Iraq and tell men how isolating America has served any sane purpose.”
I don’t care what other wimpass nations like France and Luxemberg think. And I DAMN sure don’t care what Cuba or Venezuela thinks, unlike Cindy Sheephead Sheehan.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
Hey Dick —- stop being a dick - there’s a good dick!!
By Richard
August 20, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
ANY conservative .. feel free to jump right in because it does not appear that Markus is up to the challenge.
Mr. Wooten, please feel free to jump in .. if you dare.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this
I DID Dick! YOU’RE MOVE, dude!
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this
Hey Dick! Great way of “supporting the troops”! Sounds like you liberals boys and your DemoNcraPs have already given up on them, like you did poor ole Joe Lieberman. NO WONDER THE MAJORITY OF TROOPS VOTE REPUBLICAN!!! Dude!
By Markus
August 20, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this
Dick-
“It’s going to take a lot of fingers to accomplish this .. and perhaps you can figure out if CHINA owns the US debt ..”
Yeah I’ve heard you liberal neomarxist pigs b!tch about that for years. Well since Americans are sitting on their fatasses at home watching their new $5,000 plasmas and looking at their new $45,000 Expedition in the driveway and not saving a DIME, who’s left to invest in US securities like Treasuries OTHER than foreign banks/nations? And the last time I checked, foreign nations amounted to nearly 50% of the overall debt holding. That’s not Bush’s fault.
How does our public debt rack up as a %of GDP compared to those other nations you love so much, like France?
Your move.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
these liberal morons equate WW2 with Iraq. All out war as I said above is totally different in virtually every respect from a religious/racial insurgency in the arab middle east. the weapons the insurgents have access to are vastly more sophisticated than the french/dutch etc resistance had. the fact that mohammedan clergy and terrorists are calling for the murder of fellow Iraqis is on them … the Iranians are increasingly stirring things more than than most folks realise. the shiite v sunni hatred is actually worse (not by much though) than liberal hatred of Bush, the politically correct pussyfooting around in Falujah and many other towns has cost countless US and Iraqi lives, there’s alos local tribalism at work sunni on sunni in the triangle … there are many reasons and the US wont go in really hard and sort it. Arabs are cowards and run when they are pressed - they are not being systematically pressed harshly enough!!
By Markus
August 20, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
Hey Dick-
You need to learn a little more patience, liberal scab.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this
Please stop. You are embarrsassing yourselves.
This one is for “lies”
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this
Hell Markus, these idiots have been calling for an end to the fighting in Iraq since after the first 2 weeks. They’re like kids on a long trip…Are we there yet? Are we there yet? How long’s it gonna take?
Morons!!! Dude!
By Richard
August 20, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this
To the very appropriately named “Ugotta B Kiddin” .. never met a conservative who espouses “if only we’d killed more people, tortured more people, we would have won” .. then what is your excuse for the miserable failure of Iraq?
We’ve thrown everything we have, except nuclear weapons at them. Depleted uranium weapons, MOAB Mother of all bombs, tortured innocent people, raped young girls, and we’ve MELTED innocent people including babies, used nearly every availble soldier in America to the point that no combat ready Army teams are left in America .. and STILL we’re losing. Conservatives are in charge of nearly every level of government .. and STILL we’re losing.
In fact, the military is so depleted that Cher is going around America raising money to buy better helmets for the troops. What’s next, bake sales for bullets?
Let me guess .. you blame this failure on democrats .. and Cynthia McKinney.
Ask Joe Lieberman? Surely, ugotta b kidding. Joe is toast and yesterdays news, I can go you one better and ask what the American people think of the mindless attack on Iraq. How many Americans support Bush or the war on Iraq, which is far more important that what Joe thinkis.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
You should have stayed on the sidelines Ug.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this
UBK-
I get so sick of hearing these whineyassed liberals b!tch about the same things over and over and over. One thing I forgot to bring up that Dick did as well, and that has to do with a REAL irony between Vietnam and Iraq:
Both wars had the jackass left mouthing off negatively about it which the enemy took to heart. In Vietnam we had Jane Fonda aiming anti-aircraft guns in the skies where US fighers and bombers were. In Iraq, we had Spicoli Sean Penn meeting with Saddam, and the Dixie sluts and other liberal Hollywood bimbos like Susan Sarandon mouthing off against it. Don’t think the enemy isn’t listening. Oh wait, the 60-minutes interview last week with Mahamoud had all the Demopoop talking points.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this
Hey “Dude”, You’re a traitor, “Dude”! I don’t intend to respond to your stupid idiotic ranting. What took so long? Did you finally get that great warrior Howard Dean on the phone, or did you take a crap to get that insanity? Cause that’s what it is, “Dude”! As I said, wanna know why OUR TROOPS vote Republican??? The answer is in your 4:58pm Post, “Dude”!
By Think Tank Timmy
August 20, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
Tiger unbelievable today.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this
Dick-
It’s hard to fight the enemy when they are cowards and hide behind women & children, or in many cases, kill their own and blame it on us.
Cowards blow themselves up. Cowards kill civilians INTENTIONALLY (not accidentally like we do from time to time).
Listening to your liberal psychodribble here, I have to conclude that you admire the enemy and anyone else who dares rise up and challenge America and the UK. Did you high-five your pals when the WTC was attacked on 9/11?
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this
DIck - stop being a dick and actually try to read and inwardly digest
you win a war by killing the enemy and destroying their infrastructure and the r willingness and capability to fight.
I grant you the willingness ‘factor’ is quite different with fantaical mohammedan fascists. The Iraqis, since they were liberated have essentially prevented any systematic attempt to do this as painfully to the fascists as is warranted. except for small brief occasional operations in localised areas. The Iraqis are actually dragging out this war by refusing to kill the killers in sufficient numbers - because of arab religious/racial sensibilities. Arabs are largely cowards when they squeezed/losing - history shows it in most instances.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this
Markus, How can you expect someone that whines these days about bullies on the playground when they were in school, to support a war??? It ain’t rocket science to figure out! It AIN’T gonna happen! There’s a lot of TRAITORS in this country today and it’s a damn pity we don’t still hang their as*es!!!
By getalife
August 20, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this
Ug,
Don’t go out like that man.
You sound just like Cheney.
Come on, just deal with reality.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
Here, try this one
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
getalife, I don’t like traitors. This “Dick” is a traitor! You, my friend, are just misguided, but I still like you.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
And one more thing DICK-
We’ll just have to wait until November to see how America truly feels about the war in Iraq, won’t we?. You jackholes on the left were crying with joy when pro-war Lieberman was beat by anti-war Lamont in a primary. Now it appears that Lieberman may win as an independent. Until then, you candyasses on the left can b!tch, p!ss, and moan all you want about New York Slimes polls or whatever.
Finally, there are a lot of other things going on outside of Iraq, like terrorists who still want to destroy us. But you jackasss on the left keep thwarting everything Bush is trying to do like that stupid decision by that Carter-appointed federal judge the other day. And we know you mental midgets on the left will be the FIRST candyasses to b!tch “Bush didn’t do enough” if we get attacked on this soil again.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
Ug,
There comes a time you have to admit failure, hold them accountable and move forward.
This is the time.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
Dick obviously cant actually debate the really awkward points … he just wants to carry on bleating about Bush!!
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
getalife, No wonder you’re so misguided. If you’ll stop readinag all the trash you read you might come to a different conclusion. The war’s not lost as liberals, DemoNcraPs, and the liberal news media are cheering for…IT’S JUST NOT OVER YET!!! You’ll see!
By Richard
August 20, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this
This is an amazingly humorous site, not to be taken as anything remotely serious, which is obviously populated by the remaining 30% of Americans who still support Bush and the idiotic war on Iraq.
The republican god, Ronald “what was that” Reagan, supplied Saddam with chemical weapons and technology to keep the Iranians from taking over Iraq. Bush in all his idiotic glory, attacked Iraq and succeeded in handing Iraq to Iran with the cost of thousands of American lives and half a trillion dollars.
A fact that the war-mongerers here don’t want to touch.
Iraq is no closer to resolution today then it was when the idiot-king announced “Mission Accomplished”
It is also real humorous listening to conservatives grasping for straws and declaring that they don’t care what the rest of the world thinks .. even in the face of our DEPENDENCE on the rest of the world.
Not only did the so-called “coaliton” crumble into just Americans dying, world leaders of democratic nations that got into bed with Bush on Iraq, were sent packing by their own citizens as soon as possible, as evidenced in Italy and Spain .. and soon England where the citizens want Tony Blair gone with the quickness.
Today, America is no longer the leader of the free world and has to depend on China and Russia to bail us out.
Go ahead .. make some lemonade.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this
TELL ME WHERE MY POINTS above @ Iraq ARE WRONG DICK!!
Clearly you cant … you dont want to debate - you just want to hector!!
By Richard
August 20, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this
Markus,
No trailer boy, .. YOU might have to wait until November, but the will of the American people is really really obvious. The fact that you don’t know that Americans DO NOT SUPPORT THE WAR ON IRAQ, is simply indicative of your ilk. There’s a lot that you don’t know.
And by the way, I’ve heard no “awkward points” .. just evasion from what the war on Iraq has accomplished .. which is handing Iraq to Iran.
This is really fun .. and easy.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
Ug,
Of course it is not over. We need good honest leadership and the GOP is not it, not even close.
I read everything I can, both sides, newspapers from around the world and I can tell you, we have a huge mess to clean up. Our democracy is in trouble, we should start with elections and go from there.
If you were a failure at your job, what should happen?
By Markus
August 20, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this
Hey DICK-
Specifically respond to my response to you, or sit down and shut your pie hole. By the way loonbat liberal terrorist-lover, were you one of those goons during the 1992 Election year that were on Clinton’s side and said “Bush [HW] never finished the job in Iraq” [meaning remove him from power]? I’m curious.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this
Dick: What’s really amazing is what OUR TROOPS and THIS COUNTRY have accomplished with almost 50% of the voting population of this country working against it, in one way or another!!!
That’s why the “evil” Republicans will WIN AGAIN in November AND by far the majority of OUR TROOPS’ VOTES!!! Wait & see Dick…Wait & see!
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this
DIck - stop being a dick and actually try to read and inwardly digest
you win a war by killing the enemy and destroying their infrastructure and their willingness and capability to fight.
I grant you the willingness ‘factor’ is quite different with fantatical mohammedan fascists. The Iraqis, since they were liberated have essentially prevented any systematic attempt to do this as painfully to the fascists as is warranted. except for small brief occasional operations in localised areas. The Iraqis are actually dragging out this war by refusing to kill the killers in sufficient numbers - because of arab religious/racial sensibilities. Arabs are largely cowards when they squeezed/losing - history shows it in most instances.
TELL ME WHERE I AM WRONG DICK — factually and strategically!! stop running away from a proper debate!!
By Markus
August 20, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this
Hey DICK-
You gonna tell me the difference between both WWII fronts and Iraq and Afghanistan or do I need to? C’mon sport, you started it.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
Oh and DICK-
If you think so many people are against this war (and a lot are) based upon what the polls say out there, give me your brilliant insight into why Lieberman is doing so well in the POLLS right now as an independent against anti-war Lamont?
Enlighten me with your sheer brilliant liberal logic, loonbat neomarxist pig.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
DIck - stop being a dick and actually try to read and inwardly digest
you win a war by killing the enemy and destroying their infrastructure and their willingness and capability to fight.
I grant you the willingness ‘factor’ is quite different with fantatical mohammedan fascists. The Iraqis, since they were liberated have essentially prevented any systematic attempt to do this as painfully to the fascists as is warranted. except for small brief occasional operations in localised areas. The Iraqis are actually dragging out this war by refusing to kill the killers in sufficient numbers - because of arab religious/racial sensibilities. Arabs are largely cowards when they are squeezed/losing - history shows it in most instances.
WW2 was all out war - Iraq is NOT!! Its a very different proposition fought in a much more culturally/religiously venomous atmosphere.
TELL ME WHERE I AM WRONG DICK — factually and strategically!! stop running away from a proper debate!!
By getalife
August 20, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this
Have fun Richard.
These folks will not admit failure so there is no honest debate here.
I refer to my 12:30 post written by a friend which jbmlaw cut and ran from.
Maybe these folks will want to take a stab at that argument.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this
Guys, he’s not going to truly answer your questions or honestly debate you, all he’s doing is the same BS that the others do…keep spouting the same old crap and that one WORN-OUT QUESTION. That’s ALL they’ve got. They’ve Got NO answers. They’ve got no plans. They just have that one stupid question that they keep repeating over & over & over, and they THINK they’re winning the argument by asking their stupid question.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this
getalife, YOU’VE GOT A FRIEND??? LOL
BTW, was it that SAME STUPID QUESTION???
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this
HA HA HA … dishonest getamaggotbrain cant even eviscerate my supposedly - from the lefty side at least - “deeply flawed” arguments on IRaq.
If my repeated points about Iraq are so easy to hammer factually and logically then DO IT!!
CUT AND RUN away again maggotbrain … eh?
By Markus
August 20, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
Yeah, it looks like Dick couldn’t hold an honest debate. He wouldn’t respond to my initial response to HIS response to me about the difference between WWII fronts and Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe he’s still Googling. Who knows. In any event, Dick is just another psychobabbling loonbat liberal who asks the same question time after time after time when getting the same answer time after time after time. I’ll give this character one thing though regarding asking the same questions repetitively: he sure knows how to dress up a pig in a different dress.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
Ug,
You know you are not being honest and the Dems do have a plan. Guess what, it is not “stay the course”.
Actually, that 12:30 post sums up the GOP agenda very well.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
liberal cowards RUN FROM DEBATE YET AGAIN
they cant/wont debate … even though they know for sure they are right and we GOP types are wrong - we’re gifting them the chance to finally rip us to pieces logically and factually and they are CHICKENING OUT - just like Kerry did in Vietnam!!!
HA HA HA HA HA
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this
getalife, you just proved MY argument. The DemoNcraPs NEVER “stay the course”. That’s exactly why they can’t be trusted with our national defense!!! That’s just different words for CUT & RUN!!!
By getalife
August 20, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this
I guess ya’ll have not figured it out yet so allow me spell it out for you.
Iran won the war in Iraq and Lebanon.
Deal with it and stop embarrassing yourselves. Read.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this
COWARDY COWARDY LIBERALS!!
Just as well your sort weren’t fighting in WW2 -eh!! We’d all STILL be speaking German now!!
They run from a simple straightforward debate on Iraq they’ve desperately been demanding!!! HEEE HEEE HEEE
DONT YOU JUST LOVE HOW GUTLESS LIBERA;S REALLY ARE!!
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
Dick, why do you liberals dislike our troops and the military so? Why do you NOT support them? If YOU were fighting in Iraq and the bullets were whizzing by your head and you were watching out for an IED, WOULDN’T YOU like to know that the folks back home WERE SUPPORTING YOU???
You “boys” have already surrendered and our troops are still being shot at. SOME SUPPORT!!! I don’t think I need YOUR kind of support. Just go ahead and desert me like you have them!!!
By Richard
August 20, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Thanks, but I already know there is no honest debate to be had on a conservative site .. after all, they’re conservatives.
Just killing some time while I wait for my daughter to get out of dance class.
The war, both of them, are going swimmingly well .. according to the war-mongerers .. make that stay-at-home war-mongerers.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for them to tackle any argument which cannot be answered by a bumper-sticker.
IRAQ NOW BELONGS TO IRAN .. and none of the resident geniuses even touched that.
Also, recently hundreds of thousands of Iraqis marched in the streets of Baghdad shouting “DEATH TO AMERICA” which I’m real sure comforts the loved ones of our dead soldiers .. who like those who died in VietNam .. died for nothing. .. Oh wait, they died to hand Iraq to Iran.
There is little to no intelligent argument for the war on Iraq and the Bushistas are back-peddling away from it as fast as they can. But you can always depend on the abect and total ignorance of conservatives to support whatever goosesteppin’ measure they are told to support .. even when those who told them are themselves running away from it.
By getalife
August 20, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
Its okay “lies”. So what you are wrong about everything. Reality sux.
Deal with it and stop melting down
Have a drink, we will fix it.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this
All liberals can do is hurl abuse - they simply cannot debate!!
Its absolutely pathetic.
And I was so looking forward to being strategically eviscerated by Dick … and learning where my logic/facts were hopelessly wrong .. too bad Dick’s just a coward - like getatinybrain is!!
By Markus
August 20, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this
Yeah getalife, I read your post from earlier, and it didn’t impress me. Tell me how in the HELL Bush can manipulate oil prices when it’s a commodity traded on the INTERNATIONAL exchange.
Corporations most assuredly do pay taxes, they just pass them along to you & I. Corporations get tax “breaks” for expendetures like continuing education, retirement benefits, pensions, healthcare, and other liberal causes youo folks fight for so much.
Tax cuts for individuals is none of your damned socialist business. Tell me where in the US Constitution is says that capital gains taxation is a right of the government. Tell me where a marxist-like progressive income tax burden on those that work harder and make more is fair and documented in the US constitution. Who the hell are you liberals to tell AMERICANS what they should do with THEIR money?
By Ugotta B. Kidding
August 20, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
Hey “Dick”, that was funny! Iran taking over Iraq. That meth is not good for you. Keep posting that line so we can see what even more of a dumba*s you are!!!
By getalife
August 20, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
Richard,
I know. It is fun playing with these dishonest wingnuts.
I am starting to feel sorry for them since you caused such a tragic meltdown on their tiny, tiny, wittle brains.
Have mercy, for they know not what they spew.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
Looks like DICK doesn’t want to have a real debate here. Typical candyassed all-mouth liberal terrorist-appeasing RAT that can’t stand reading opinions he doesn’t agree with.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this
Thanks, but I already know there is no honest debate to be had on a conservative site .. after all, they’re conservatives.
SO HOW COME DICK you ran away from debating any of my points!!
you were factually slaughtered this afternoon on here by several conservatives and you still wont debate!!
and you wonder why we call you liberal vermin??!!
By Markus
August 20, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
One more time, DICK:
Tell me the differences between Japan & Germany in WWII, and Iraq * Afghanistan today from a strategical war perspective. I’m all ears, little girlie man.
By Markus
August 20, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this
One more time, DICK:
Tell me the differences between Japan & Germany in WWII, and Iraq & Afghanistan today from a strategical war perspective. I’m all ears, little liberal girlie man.
By time for the truth
August 20, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
the staggering thing is DICK and maggotbrain actually think they won - even though they said NOTHING substantive about Iraq in any kind of debate!!
and these wankers get to vote too!!
By getalife
August 20, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this
Gawd Markus,
There is no oil coming out of Iraq. Why?
By @@
August 20, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this
I didn’t want to interrupt the exchange taking place here this evening so I waited for the site to close. I’ve enjoyed watching all of you debate your reasoning on substantive points. I’m talking about Markus, UBK & Time for the Truth.
It would appear as though Richard (Dick) is exactly as you say. Incapable of anything other than the repetitive rhetoric of the left.
Getalife:
There was a conclusion to your Washington Post link on page 5. I hope you read it.
Also, I was wondering what your source was for your 3:05 link. I can’t seem to find any reference to the claim in the news sites.
Anyhooo, I wanted to address “Think Tanked Timmy”. When you referred to me as a troll, I had not posted prior to your accusation. I rarely post here. Sometimes days go by without me posting. Therefore I can’t be the “troll” you say I am. Besides, I don’t really know what a “troll” is in the blogosphere.
Just wanted to clarify.
By mo
August 21, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
Funny how the topic dies as people start to slang these ranting, political attacks upon one another!
To get back to the original topic, the black middle class (which I am a part of) has it’s own identity, but it shouldn’t be one that is totally separated from the black people of lower incomes. See, conventional wisdom states that we talk about “middle-class” whites to the exclusion to “Upper-class” whites; but we discuss “Middle-class” blacks to the exclusion of “Lower-class” blacks.
But across the spectrum of the African-American diaspora the political and social goals are pretty much the same: For every black person to be represented and treated fairly. That is true for the black liberal and the black conservative.
Take Cynthia McKinney, for instance. I voted for Hank Johnson. I do not like or agree with many stances that Cynthia took while in office. But I respect Cynthia. And many black people respect her because she was the first African-American female to go to Congress from Georgia. That means she fought and won over considerable odds.
The problem, to me, is not conservatism or liberalism. There have been conservatives and liberals in the black community for as long as their has been lower, middle, and higher incomes in the black community.
But the biggest problems are within the Democratic and Republican parties. Most black conservatives and moderates are not members of either party.
Perhaps we as moderates can hook up with the black conservatives and start our own party. In other words, perhaps we need a party that represents the moderates of America, because it certainly looks like neither party is interested in our vote.
mo
By Yankee
August 21, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
Having been weaned on conservative Northern sheets, such as those owned by the Quayles, I find AJC refreshing.
Why do they even read it and blog here if they are so upset? I certainly left behind the rightist ragsheets without ado and will greatfully not look back. They must love to hate.
By Raliek
August 24, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this
You people that still support this administration and/or iraq war are so unbelievably ignorant. The saddest thing about your ignorance is that you feel the people running the show have some sort of loyalty to you. THEY DON’T GIVE A F*** ABOUT YOU!! If you notice, the only people benefitting in any way from this war are the corporations with the contracts (no-bid, for the most part). Halliburton, Carlyle, Exxon, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, etc. are making BBBillions of free dollars from this (still-undeclared) war. The government doesn’t make any money from these corporations because they are in the process of getting permanent tax cuts, meaning they pay no taxes. Taxes stil have to be paid, so the people have to take up the slack. Instead of wasting your time bickering from the safety of your home online, why don’t you dumb-f*** do some research and find out who you’re really defending—IT AIN’T YOU..