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DEL.ICIO.USRepublicans’ pandering unbecoming
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Last week’s pandering by congressional Republicans illustrates why the party is unlikely to attract black voters — and why preference now shifts to Democrats in November’s U.S. House elections, according to a new poll.
Last week’s deal with Democrats to extend expiring, and discriminatory, provisions of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 for another 25 years was an example of election-year pandering. Pure hypocrisy.
The extension is relatively meaningless in terms of protecting anybody’s right to vote in Georgia or elsewhere. What it does is polarize the two parties racially by giving voice and standing to third-rate microphone-grabbers, assuring that every possible dispute, like voter ID, is reframed as one of race.
That advantages politicians in both parties. The more Jesse Jackson and elected officials who appeal at the margins are given stage, the better it is for the Republican Party. Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.) should be on retainer. She is a gift that keeps on giving. She’s guaranteed a safe district, and Republicans wouldn’t have it any other way.
In practical terms, preclearance of proposed changes in districts and election law by the U.S. Justice Department’s civil rights division is inconvenient, costly and polarizing, but largely empty of meaning for ordinary voters. Those who committed the sin for which Georgia is being punished are either dead or out of power. So are their schemes. Public opinion, courts and actual voters are perfectly capable of policing politicians who might be tempted.
The hypocrisy of national Republicans played out in the extension of Voting Rights provisions affecting all or parts of 16 states and based on elections of four decades ago. While the majority would cheerfully extend the discrimination another quarter century, something U.S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) attributed to “lingering prejudice toward Southerners,” they weren’t willing to apply those same provisions to themselves.
“The House failed to prove that the 16 states subjected to federal ‘preclearance’ of electoral laws are substantively different than the states not covered by the Voting Rights Act,” he said. “Proponents of the bill kept citing problems in Ohio and Florida,” but Ohio is not covered and neither is most of Florida.” Nor will they be, no matter how current their imagined sins.
Before another decade of Voting Rights politics is passed, Georgia will lock into two parties based on race. Or it will have political parties going the way of some mainstream religious denominations, splitting into factions. The Libertarian Party certainly has growth potential here, though it’s not yet a realistic alternative to pandering, big-spending Republicans or pandering, big-government Democrats. For now, it’s a vote cast to the wind.
A national Associated Press-Ipso poll of 1,000 adults contains numbers that should cause Republicans some consternation. When the 789 participants who are registered voters were asked whether they preferred a Republican or Democrat in their U.S. House district, the Dems were favored by 51 to 40 percent. Almost a quarter of conservatives, 24 percent, said they would vote for a Democrat.
I’m not convinced they would. For a conservative, the party of big government is not an acceptable alternative when spending is the cause of one’s discomfort with the party in power. It’s that problem again, always fatal for Democratic prospects. Republicans make themselves unappealing — until Howard Dean opens his mouth and the cut-and-run, anti-military wing takes to the microphones.
You have to believe that the GOP would be far more appealing to whites and blacks alike if it stood solidly on principle, as President Bush does on Iraq and the war on terrorism.
If you’re a black guy and you open your door in an election year, there’s a Republican waiting to pander, just as now. The black Democrats and the white Republicans have done a deal that benefits those in power, and it’s supposed to be evidence that both are looking out for the little guy, the little black guy in particular.
The little black guy and the little white guy would be far better off, and so would the GOP, if the party of limited government, fiscal discipline, strong defense and personal responsibility embraced policies based on core values. Black conservatives and white conservatives alike would be far more inclined to stick around if it came toting principle — four years out of four, not one.
• Jim Wooten is associate editorial page editor. His column runs Sundays, Tuesdays and Fridays.
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By Political Foreskin
July 15, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this
I used to volunteer to hand out campaign pamphlets at malls during the 1990’s. I used a Mr. Microphone gadget to draw attention to myself. A partisan opponent’s volunteer once grabbed my Mr. Microphone…………..once.
Microphone grabbers, (with or without a hyphen), are evidence that the Voting Rights Amendment needs to live forever. People grab things during election campaigns.
They grab campaign signs, too. In Dekalb county’s Oak Grove neighborhood, some children performed a homeland-security-shaming surveillance and capture of a campaign sign grabber. Shame on your, Mr. Charles Buckley. Congrats to Rachel,11, Chase, 8, and Reese, 6.
Politicians grab. At straws. (and straw polls). They grab power. They grab districts. They grab women, and bags, (but then I repeat myself)….. The Voting Rights Amendment has grabbed the attention of voters and most agree it levels the playing field.
By SamX
July 15, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
This is funny stuff. Its seems liberals are alive and well after all! Medicare part D, voting rights re-authorization, out of control spending, big government, flag change…..
You liberal Republicans are ruining the country. If Cynthia McKinney loses this November maybe she should move to Cobb and run as a Republican!
By Th
July 15, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
Samx, you forgot the monarchical President who, in the words of his deputy Attorney General is, “always right.” I guess for him if he wants to keep his job. Republican officials in Kansas, Arizona, Missouri, etc. are quitting the Republican party to run as Democrats. Bill Clinton actually cut the number of government employees. Bush created a huge new money-sucking department. Wooten keeps thinking he is in the 80’s.
By SamX
July 15, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
Poor ol’ Zell must be really confused right now.
By Brandon
July 15, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this
I’ll take Bush’s spending on tax “cuts” (the more taxes you paid, the more taxes you got back.. don’t give me that liberal “for the rich” crap) any day over a socialist liberal. I’ll take Bush’s spending on the War On Terror and funding for homeland defense any day to a pathetic liberal democrat who wants to give our money away to the “world” like the worthless corrupt and toothless United Nations; I’ll take Bush’s ideas (even though shot down by cowardly Senators) on allowing taxpayers to choose their own method of retirement over the mandatory socialist security “benefit” taken out of my check bi-monthly that I won’t be getting 25 years from now. I’ll also take Bush’s ideology on FIGHTING radical Islam face to face instead of Clintoon’s Madeliene notsoAlbright idea of treating terrorism as a criminal issue… and signing useless treaties with North Korea… and…
Sure the GOP hasn’t done what a lot of those who voted for them would do, but any day it sure beats the hell out of having a freak like Howard Scream or that consdiscending northeastern arrogant liberal John “those weren’t my medals I tossed” Kerry. ANY DAY.
By Van
July 15, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this
Political Foreskin,
The reauthorizing of the Voter Right bill, not an amendment - has nothing to do with whatever you were taking about - brain dead. If anything, it does not level anything, it imposes certain restrictions on a few states and how they handle voting - period. It still comes down to unequal enforcement of the law, 16 states are treated differently than the other 34.
Politicians are sleaze balls, they will try to grab the candy from a little child as much as the dollars out of your wallet.
By Political Foreskin
July 15, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
Well!
By Dave
July 15, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
Wooten is 100% CORRECT here!
I’m a moderate Democrat, but the left-wingers of the party are killing me. As soon as I convince my Republican-leaning friends to examine the selfish policies and hypocritical spending of most Republicans, some left-wing nut opens their mouth and scares them back into the GOP camp.
And the renewal of the Voting Rights Act has really gotten under my skin. Who are these people from the Midwest and Northwest - where there is little diversity - to judge us and tell us what to do about discrimination? I know things were bad 40 years ago, but I’m 34 and have no memory of those events or inclination to do the same. Times change. In fact, considering the diversity that exists in the South, I’d say we’re doing all right, or at least as well as the rest of the country would do with our same level of diversity. Honestly, I expected the left-wing nuts to rally for its renewal, but I’m shocked that the Republicans went for it as well. I guess this proves what Westmoreland said about a national lingering bias against the South - the one group of people it’s OK to discriminate against. Again, another example of the blatant hypocrisy of most Republicans. (Westmoreland and Isakson being the exceptions, at times.)
By Ya' kidding, right?
July 15, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this
Limited government? Which party is that, the one that wants to listen in on my phone calls, outed a covert CIA officer for political gain, and assumes that domestic opponents are “for the terrorist”?
The party that trashed our own states Democratic senator who served his country honorably?
Fiscal responsibility? We control the presidency and both houses and spending is out of control and seemingly no inclination to reign in a staggering trade deficit with a powerful communist dictatorship. Lenin must be chuckling down in hell as his prediction that we’d sell communists the rope that they’d use to hang us becomes more likely by the day.
I’m a black man who’s voted Republican for three decades. No more. That itch was scratched forever when I witnessed the President holding hands with an Arab dictator whose country educated and financially supported 15 of those savages who attacked us on 9/11. Wake up America.
By SamX
July 15, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this
Jim calls it pandering but it really means that Republicans are now the liberals. Bush will be known as the first “Liberal Republican”. His record speaks for itself.
He nominated Harriet Myers to the Supreme Court.
He is responsible for THE most liberal initiative to pass out of Washington in the past 26 years- Medicare Part D.
He is responsible for the second most liberal legislation enacted since 1980- The Bush/Teddy Kennedy, No Child Left Behind.
If his immigration plan were to pass that would also be one of the most liberal acts since ‘80.
He wasted billions of dollars in handouts to victims and fake victims after Katrina.
He is running up huge deficits, and is big government, how very liberal of him. He signs pork bloated budgets, very, very liberal.
Welcome to the world of the Liberal Republican. A Voting Rights, stem cell, and drug amnesty Republican Congress, liberal, liberal and liberal. You Republicans must be confused as Zell.
And at the same time you feel its all worth while, because soon Bush will reward you with another Liberal value, the activist judge. His next Supreme Court nominee will surely be the “activist” judge you libs need to overturn Roe v Wade.
By clarkslawga
July 15, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this
OK. Let’s go over this one last time.
The people in the midwest and the northwest are not the ones telling us what to do. The preclearance is done by the justice department does the preclearance. The other states are exempted from the provisions in question and that is the issue that bothers many most, including myself.
If the provisions are to be kept them they should be applied to all states. They do serve a useful purpose and are not as restrictive as many want us to believe. (The Voter ID law here passed.) There is nothing wrong with scrutiny as it relates to our most important right, but I know that other disagree and thats fine.
By clarkslawga
July 15, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this
Brandon,
You wrote a pretty interesting post laying out why you choose the Bush administration over others. Although the language was a little harsh throughout, it was not too much. But then you got to this…
Sure the GOP hasn’t done what a lot of those who voted for them would do, but any day it sure beats the hell out of having a freak like Howard Scream or that consdiscending (sic) northeastern arrogant liberal John “those weren’t my medals I tossed” Kerry.
Stuff like that does nothing but make you look like a partisan hack and it was completely unnecessary to use such epithets to get your point across.
The debate in the country must return to more civil terms if we are to make any true progress in America.
By Th
July 15, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this
To return briefly to the last few days’ education topic, the Education Dept. released a study comparing private schools to public schools controlling for socio-economic differences. Here is the write up in the NY Times:link. The long and short is that there is not much to be gained by spending the extra money.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 15, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
Good name Ya’kidding, right. We might be kin…
By Political Foreskin
July 16, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten complains that the ubiquitous and obsequious pandering by political barnstormers has uncorralled a herd of no-longer-microphone-challenged dark horses who, unreigned by gallop polls, will have the unbridled gall to trot out every issue, (including photo-finish IDs), in terms of race.
Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth! Howard Dean and Cynthia McKinney (Rode Hard and Put Away Wet), will ensure a republican election stampede and neoconical (pointedly dittohead) power machine for generations to come.
Vote for Ralph Reed. He had me at ‘Keno’.
By deegee
July 16, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Lingering prejudice towards Southerners? Five of the last 8 US presidents were from the South. Try again, Lynn.
By Rednecks - Amerrica's Al Qaeda
July 16, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this
Greetings from London, a beautiful sunny afternoon here - spent the morning in St. Paul’s Cathedral, listening to Mozart’s Coronation Mass, a truly beautiful and awesome experience. I thought of you Atlanta rednecks heading off to your strip-mall churches to listen to snake oil salesmen like the Stanleys, the Paulks, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long and their unctuous ilk, and I prayed for you.
Republikkkans aren’t conservatives any longer, Jim. The GOP is the party of the hatefilled rabble, the party of the rednekkk. The stupid and simple-minded have joined forces with ethical and moral midgets like the Bush family, the Cheneys, etc.
May God have mercy on your filthy rednekkk souls.
By Political Foreskin
July 16, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this
Vote for Ralph Reed. He had me at ‘Pueblo’.
By Brandon
July 16, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
@clarkslawga
“Stuff like that does nothing but make you look like a partisan hack and it was completely unnecessary to use such epithets to get your point across. The debate in the country must return to more civil terms if we are to make any true progress in America.”
Well aren’t you the typical pompous hypocrite liberal. Your beloved party of the left is the party of hate and intolerance of diversity of opinion.
Howard Dean:
“I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for.”
“Republicans have never worked an honest day in their lives.”
And my personal favorite from the hypocritical limpwristed liberal:
“Republicans are evil.” - that’s funny considering Mr. Scream Dean is an AGNOSTIC. What does he know about “evil?”
Tell ya what clarkslager… you start complaining about your OWN party’s rhetoric before you start complaining about retaliation rhetoric. Republicans are like Israel now: not taking crap off anyone anymore.
By Brandon
July 16, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this
And Rednecks…
Why don’t you take your neocommunist racist diatribe where it belongs: the sewers of demonratunderground.com where the rest of you filthy anti-American pinko pig RATs dwell. You and your ilk serve ZERO purpose on this forum.
By Susan
July 16, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this
“By Brandon
July 16, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this
And Rednecks…
Why don’t you take your neocommunist racist diatribe where it belongs: the sewers of demonratunderground.com where the rest of you filthy anti-American pinko pig RATs dwell. You and your ilk serve ZERO purpose on this forum.”
I think I would much rather be in the company of the gentleman who spent his morning at St. Paul’s Cathedral in London than you, Brandon.
Brandon, please, a cool drink, a walk around the neighborhood, and you would be amazed how much your blood pressure will drop.
I think you prove R-AA’s point perfectly with your very angry, hate-filled diatribe.
And please remember-this country was founded on dissent and a desire to topple an unfair absentee government. If someone disagrees with you, Brandon, it is wholly their prerogative. No one is any less patriotic or American if they do not agree with you.
While I most likely disagree with you on most issues, I will fight to the death to allow you to say whatever you want. No matter how angry and bitter you are, it’s still your choice to think as you wish.
Have you thought about yoga or meditation?
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
Duh, Well, just slap me ‘round and call me Susan, Susan. It must be THAT time, huh? Sounds like you got your panties in a wad girl. That might be what’s putting all that pressure on your brain causing you to be so liberal. And by the way that John Dean “thing” you posted was a big ole piece of propaganda garbage. * Duh* (The Duhs were for my buddies Patriotic Foreskin and Redneck)
By getalife
July 16, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this
Jim,
as President Bush does on Iraq and the war on terrorism.
Two different issues but I see you are the minority who thinks this administration is heading in the right direction.
The majority knows Iraq is in a civil war and the DHS is a joke.
We should learn a valuble lesson about having the GOP in power and never let it happen again.
We have a very weak and dangerous administration with no credibilty.
Putin knows this along with the rest of the world and he is playing with W:
“PUTIN: We certainly would not want to have same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, quite honestly.
BUSH: Just wait”
And this from nutjob Newt:
“Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich says America is in World War III and President Bush should say so.”
W said it right. They are pathetic.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this
getalife, I don’t like Bush either (and I’m a CONSERVATIVE), but for other reasons than the Iraq war. I wish we could speed up the process in Iraq also BUT I’m also a REALIST and I know that some things like kicking these terrorists A$$ takes time. Of course you wouldn’t know that because there’s never been a book written by a liberal that clued you and your buddies in on that. If you and your friends think we can just “talk to these guys and become friends — just leave them alone and they’ll go in PEACE”, you need some serious medication. There will never be peace in the middle east til these guys are TOTALLY ERADICATED from the face of the earth.
By STM
July 16, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe what I am reading. I try to put myself in the Republicans shoes to see their view point and I can’t follow them. It seems to me that the right wing has selective short term and long term memory loss. The party of fiscal repsonsibility, limited government, moral responsibility, and strong defense? Since the Eisenhower era, the Republican party has run huge deficits, grossly expanded government, and quickly blamed others for their own moral shortcomings.
Furthermore, when did throwing billions of dollars at failed military initiatives that the military often did not want, while ignoring our brave veterans been called strong on defense? These are not liberal tendencies. Following the logic of one of the writers, then Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and both Bush presidencies were liberal, while only Johnson from the Democratic party would be called liberal over the last forty years. The Republicans are in charge of all phases of government and they are still looking for ways to blame Clinton for their failed policies and irresponsible spending.
Honestly, look at the record. To be a conservative Republican, one must expand government, spend big, borrow a lot, and pass legislation that tells Americans how to live their lives. Finally, the Republicans have been on the offensive in political discourse for over two decades. The Democratic party took it on the chin from the Republicans for the past three election cycles. Now that they are starting to fight back, the Democrats are being called crass and combative. The comparison one writer made calling the Republican party similar to Israel was so ridiculous as to be delusional. Debate in this country will never be constructive until all voters realize what their parties do and do not stand for.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this
I’m having fun today. (If you read Midory’s little rant this week) I’m off from THE MILL today. Me & the boys went out, had a buncha beer and Pizza & wings before gettin’ into a fist fight with some pinkos last night. They were wearing suits & ties and YOU KNOW how much that pi$$e$ us uneducated “rednecks” off. But getalife, I said that I’m a conservative but I DON’T like George W anymore. I shamefully admit that I voted for W twice. Thought he was our man TIL I found out what the W stands for…Whore, for big business! CLOSE THE BORDERS and stop the ILLEGAL INVASION, put more troops in Iraq to finish the job, and cut out the ridiculous spending George W!!!
By Susan
July 16, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this
“By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
Duh, Well, just slap me ‘round and call me Susan, Susan. It must be THAT time, huh? Sounds like you got your panties in a wad girl. That might be what’s putting all that pressure on your brain causing you to be so liberal. And by the way that John Dean “thing” you posted was a big ole piece of propaganda garbage. * Duh* (The Duhs were for my buddies Patriotic Foreskin and Redneck”
Would anyone like to join me in collecting money to purchase Ugotta a window unit air-conditioner? Since his central A/C quit during this heat, I hate to think how hot it must be in his home.
Ugotta, how about some ice water and a cold compress? Until we can deliver you some relief, I’m afraid that’s the best suggestion I can offer.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this
Ugotta B. Kidding,
You must have got your a-ss kicked last night and took too many shots to your head.
W will never secure the borders due to the NAFTA superhighway.
By Political Foreskin
July 16, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
News Briefs (or Boxers): Saddam Hussein is in the 9th day of a hunger strike. He’s threatening to wire his mouth shut to protest the G8 summit that calls for Hezbollah to return the 2 Israeli Prisoners. Protested Saddam: “G8? Oh, no! I coulda had a V8!”
From terror cells to stem cells: Hezbollah, the world’s largest terrorist cell (1.4 million people) has been lobbing Katyusha rockets into Israel using rocket tubes that Condolisa Rice now knows is only good for launching Rockets…….. On Meet the Press today, Rice said, “Who knew the terrorists would trick us like that? Imagine them actually not trying to enrich uranium with those rocket tubes. Did not see that one coming. Is there egg on my face or what?”
Finally, stem cell research is gathering momentum on capitol hill. Karl Rove, however, reiterated the administration position with this: “We were all embryos once. You dont see embryos trying to clone people, now do you? What would happen if test tube babies suddenly tried to enrich uranium in the test tubes, which Condolisa Rice assures me are only good for building H Bombs? Then we’d see a real baby boom….and the terrorists would win, and then the embryos would be traitors and we’ed be throwing the babies out with the former Bathist’s heavy water.”
(Fun Facts): In the run-up to the Iraqi War, Condolisa Rice sunk her teeth into the missile gap controversy of Sunni WMDs!!! And if Condolisa Rice ever wired her own mouth shut in a hunger strike it probably wouldn’t be effective. (Fun Facts)
By Susan
July 16, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this
Recipe for Ugotta: Strawberry Sorbet
1 lemon, seeded and roughly chopped 2 cups sugar 2 pounds strawberries, hulled Juice of 1 to 2 lemons.
Place the chopped lemon and sugar in a food processor, and pulse until combined. Transfer to a bowl.
Purée the strawberries in a food processor, and add to the lemon mixture, along with the juice of 1 lemon. Taste and add more juice as desired. The lemon flavor should be intense but should not overpower the strawberries. Pour the mixture into an ice cream machine and churn until frozen. Makes 1 ½ quarts. Adapted from “London River Café Cook Book,” by Ruth Rogers and Rose Gray.
By STM
July 16, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe what I am reading. I try to put myself in the Republicans shoes to see their view point and I can’t follow them. It seems to me that the right wing has selective short term and long term memory loss. The party of fiscal repsonsibility, limited government, moral responsibility, and strong defense? Since the Eisenhower era, the Republican party has run huge deficits, grossly expanded government, and quickly blamed others for their own moral shortcomings.
Furthermore, when did throwing billions of dollars at failed military initiatives that the military often did not want, while ignoring our brave veterans been called strong on defense? These are not liberal tendencies. Following the logic of one of the writers, then Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and both Bush presidencies were liberal, while only Johnson from the Democratic party would be called liberal over the last forty years. The Republicans are in charge of all phases of government and they are still looking for ways to blame Clinton for their failed policies and irresponsible spending.
Honestly, look at the record. To be a conservative Republican, one must expand government, spend big, borrow a lot, and pass legislation that tells Americans how to live their lives. Finally, the Republicans have been on the offensive in political discourse for over two decades. The Democratic party took it on the chin from the Republicans for the past three election cycles. Now that they are starting to fight back, the Democrats are being called crass and combative. The comparison one writer made calling the Republican party similar to Israel was so ridiculous as to be delusional. Debate in this country will never be constructive until all voters realize what their parties do and do not stand for.
By STM
July 16, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe what I am reading. I try to put myself in the Republicans shoes to see their view point and I can’t follow them. It seems to me that the right wing has selective short term and long term memory loss. The party of fiscal repsonsibility, limited government, moral responsibility, and strong defense? Since the Eisenhower era, the Republican party has run huge deficits, grossly expanded government, and quickly blamed others for their own moral shortcomings.
Furthermore, when did throwing billions of dollars at failed military initiatives that the military often did not want, while ignoring our brave veterans been called strong on defense? These are not liberal tendencies. Following the logic of one of the writers, then Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and both Bush presidencies were liberal, while only Johnson from the Democratic party would be called liberal over the last forty years. The Republicans are in charge of all phases of government and they are still looking for ways to blame Clinton for their failed policies and irresponsible spending.
Honestly, look at the record. To be a conservative Republican, one must expand government, spend big, borrow a lot, and pass legislation that tells Americans how to live their lives. Finally, the Republicans have been on the offensive in political discourse for over two decades. The Democratic party took it on the chin from the Republicans for the past three election cycles. Now that they are starting to fight back, the Democrats are being called crass and combative. The comparison one writer made calling the Republican party similar to Israel was so ridiculous as to be delusional. Debate in this country will never be constructive until all voters realize what their parties do and do not stand for.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this
Can someone tell me exactly what the h-ell has Rice accomplished?
And conservatives want he to run for President.
It is insane to think this administration should invade Iran to start WWIII and not have the same outcome as Iraq.
Well, there would be a much higher body count and a draft. Maybe you should enlist, Ugotta B. Kidding.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the recipe Susan. Sounds like a great way to “chill”, especially after bein’ outside in this South Georgia heat “takin’ the wheels off the new home just as the damn window unit went out.” Seriously, I had to replace my heat pump unit last summer, but you can send the cash to cover it though. LOL
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
STM, my friend…you don’t understand because no liberal author has ever written a “conservative” book that y’all can form your opinions from. You have to be able to think freely on your own to establish this sensible way of thinking…
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this
By the way STM: The line in your last post that I think most of us can agree on, is the last sentence. Re-read it. We’re ALL being played for suckers by BOTH parties.
By Political Foreskin
July 16, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this
Vote for Ralph Reed. He had me at ‘Keno’.
By Brandon
July 16, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this
@Susan:
“I think you prove R-AA’s point perfectly with your very angry, hate-filled diatribe.”
Yet you sit there in silence with the rest of your leftist liberal friends and say NOTHING about hate diatribe by the likes of Rednecks. Isn’t that just like a typical hypocritical liberal?
“And please remember-this country was founded on dissent and a desire to topple an unfair absentee government. If someone disagrees with you, Brandon, it is wholly their prerogative. No one is any less patriotic or American if they do not agree with you.”
No kidding. Why is it that a liberal can spout and expect to be unchallenged in said spouting? And further Susan, I call them like I see them. Likewise, I will NOT be told to SHUT UP either.
“While I most likely disagree with you on most issues, I will fight to the death to allow you to say whatever you want. No matter how angry and bitter you are, it’s still your choice to think as you wish.”
I’m not “angry.” I’m just “passionate” like your hero Howard Scream Dean. Why is it from a liberal perspective when a conservative does the same thing a liberal does it’s just “hate speech?” You people on the left are such hypocrites it’s nausiating.
“Have you thought about yoga or meditation?”
No. I box. Yoga and 1960’s hippy meditation is for limpwristed liberal wussies.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this
I promise I’m not trying to “hog” the blog but it would be rude if I didn’t answer everyone and I realized that I didn’t reply to getalife. Sorry getalife I’m getting triple-teamed and I didn’t answer. I didn’t get too many shots to the head but I did get a few kicks to my A—!!! 1)I agree that our SOLD-OUT politicians are NOT going to close the borders. 2) I also agree that it would tough if we invaded Iran BUT do you REALLY want those idiots to get nuclear warheads? I hope you’re not naive enough to think they wouldn’t use them on Israel AND the good ole U.S. WHEN they get long range missiles. BUT IF THEY DO go after Iran these goofy politicians need to get the Hell out of the way and let our military do their jobs. They’re the reason you have the problem in Iraq…self-serving politicians that are more interested in getting reelected than winning a war.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this
@ liberal foreskin
Your never ending obsession with Ralph Reed is almost quite hilarious, even if characteristically banal and idiotic. Hopefully if he ever meets you whilst he’s campaigning at your residential mental hospital open day Reed will have you by the throat!! :)
I see closet redneck is still pushing the absurd, twisted lie that the US Govt actually allowed him a passport.
The renewal of the voting act was another completely unnecessary, shameful abuse of power. Hopefully next time it will just be allowed to die a natural death, like the slumlord alBOre’s vainglorious political career has!!
If Allaaaaaargh is willing the Israelis now need to kick it up a couple of gears and decapitate the Hezbollah scum - doing the world a big favour.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this
Ugotta B. Kidding,
I have been swift-boated at the “lgf” site by hundreds of posters, so I know the feeling.
WMD’s was the reason to occupy Iraq. When none was found, throw a grenade in Saddam’s spider hole, kill his sons, get the h-ell out. Pushing democracy at the end of a gun or bomb is ridiculious.
W’s “axis of evil” and selling nuclear technology to India gives Iran and North Korea an excuse to protect themselves. China and Russia has their backs.
If you are advocating invading Iran and in the age group of 18-42, enlist. They will need your help.
By Political Foreskin
July 16, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this
Vote for Ralph Reed. He had me at ‘Arapahoe’.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
@ getabrain
WMD’s were only ONE reason for the liberation of Iraq. Your usual liberal intellectual dishonesty is of course most amusing.
Talking of swift boats. I assume you have plenty of purple heart plasters, Kerry it seems carried a big tin of them for his THREE rather small in country shaving cuts … excuse me … heroic home movie camera filmed action packed war wounds!!
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this
@ liberal foreskin
are you some kind of homosexual stalker - your are utterly obsessed with Mr Reed?
By getalife
July 16, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this
time for the truth,
What kind of sick people tries to smear decorated war veterans?
Failed Americans is the answer.
By Brandon
July 16, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this
The state of the Democratic Party:
Just six years ago, a Senator from Connecticut, Joe Lieberman, was a hero of the liberal left running alongside Al Gore on the 2000 US presidential ticket.
Just six years later, the good Senator from Connecticut has been ostracized from the jackass party (or is that donkey party??) because of his “moderate” views.
It’s a funny world in liberal la-la land when a man who throughout history has voted 90% Democrat on issues suddenly gets the Gestapo Jackboot from the radical leftists that have hijacked the mainstream Democratic Party.
Oh but wait me lads! We aren’t through yet! It appears that even the leftist’s ex-60s hippy #2 Prima Donna, Senator Barbara “Babs” Boxer of Kalifornia, has shown support for Lieberman. Now it appears the lunatic liberal left (L3) has their pretty pinko panties in a collective wad over that.
How sad that a party has to be so angry at it’s own because they aren’t “left wing” enough or too “moderate.”
Good luck in 2006, liberal ladies.
Oh MAN is it going to be a good election cycle this November!
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/15051421.htm
By Political Foreskin
July 16, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this
Point of order. We are in the middle of an election campaign for Lt Governor of the State of Georgia, if you dont mind. Forgive me for being so topical, and I give the floor back to the two tag team tincture swabs who are posting to themselves with sixteen different aliases. (like anyone’s reading it)
Now, vote for Ralph Reed. He had me at ‘Pueblo’.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this
getalife: What I don’t understand is that liberals’ hero Bill Clinton fired a couple of missiles into the desert hitting an empty tent and a camel in the a$$ and you boys thought he was Wyatt Earp. He also got some of our bravest killed in Somalia by not giving them the tanks and equipment they asked for and y’all still thought he was the greatest. Is it WAR you guys don’t like OR is it just wars that are overseen by Republicans? And please, that WMD thing has been worn out.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this
Kerry self inflicted at least one of his so called war wounds, so I heard some vets say during the campaign, tellingly he refused to release ANY Nam medical records about his supposed wounds. The swift boat book says he also whined and whined to get himself moved from dangerous duty within a week or so at one point in his tour.
Tell us - just how serious were ALL his THREE wounds - I’ve met several Nam vets who were wounded far worse than kerry claimed he was and they never even attempted to get a purple heart.
How many spoiled, cowardly liberals went to Nam ARMED with a movie camera to film material for their political campaigns later?
Read the Swift Boat book - funny how Kerry didn’t ever sue them or really dispute the factual accounts, other than in a general way. Kind of like Clinton never personally denied the rape allegations by Juanita - he cynically just had his lawyer do it - once - on camera.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this
getalife: John Kerry wouldn’t make a pimple on a WAR VETERAN’S A—!!! Get real. Foreskin: Apparently you read it.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
Ugotta B. Kidding,
WMD’s is not worn out if you want the facts and not wingnut spin.
Just think if Hillary was pulling this crap.
Would you support her or screaming at the top of your lungs?
By Political Foreskin
July 16, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
Vote for Ralph Reed. He had me at ‘halo’.
Like Rush had me at ‘Bellow’. Like Pamela Anderson had me at ‘Dirty Pillow’. Like Bill Cosby had me at ‘Jello’.
Dont you people get it? It’s all about when you first meet someone and whether they have you or not then and there. That’s all I’m saying, what’s wrong with that?
What was that movie, with Renee Zellweiger and Tom Cruise? You know, it’s where they meet and say something, and then the chick figures she’ll bag the guy with this really cool line at the end….I forget exactly how it goes….anyone??
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this
@ liberal foreskin
we all wish that Reed had you brought up on charges for being an imbecilic, utterly humourless liberal PARROT!!
to cretinously and continuously repeat this pathetic, moronic in joke with several of your warped liberal multi-personalities is as sad as it gets!!
By getalife
July 16, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this
So, Ugotta B. Kidding and time for the truth, I am guessing you were in country and know all about the Vietcong?
By clarkslawga
July 16, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
Brandon,
What about my post leads you to believe I am any of the things you claim I am?
Well aren’t you the typical pompous hypocrite liberal.
I am not now and never have been a liberal. No one who knows me would even come close to believing that.
Your beloved party of the left is the party of hate and intolerance of diversity of opinion.
I am not now nor have I ever been a Democrat. Not that there is anything wrong with that, I am just not one.
Tell ya what clarkslager… you start complaining about your OWN party’s rhetoric before you start complaining about retaliation rhetoric.
Is the clarsklager thing supposed to be funny. I guess that proves that extremists on both sides really do have no sense of humor.
And what you are actually talking about is shameful name-calling and ad-hominem. attacks (“language appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason” just in case you weren’t sure) that are practiced by extremists on both the right and the left. It’s just the sort of language that we need to do away with, regardless of who is speaking.
Republicans are like Israel now: not taking crap off anyone anymore.
Tough talk from a tough guy I guess. It kind of reminds of the unfortunate “Bring it on” comment from the President.
The point I was making is that you can get your point across, sound more intelligent, and actually be taken seriously without all the rancor, or as Foreskin likes to say bromide. It’s just not necessary.
And not everyone who calls you out on something like this is automatically opposed to you politically. I know you extremists (both right and left) love to play the victim (Oh the media bias, oh the poor persecuted Christians, oh the president lied, oh Karl Rove is sooo evil) but the fact is that victimhood is weakness and according to you, Republicans are the New World Toughguys. If that’s so, why so thin skinned.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this
getalife: I don’t think Hillary will ever have a chance to “pull this kind of crap”. Those brilliant New Yorkers elected her arrogant A—. I don’t think that most Americans are that stupid. And as far as WMDs, go ask the Kurds and the Shiites if there were WMDs in Iraq. A few thousand Kurds fell dead simply from a RUMOR that Saddam had WMDs.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this
@ liberal foreskin …
to quote plebian trashy movies as your alleged ‘comic’ source for your continuing idiocy is if nothing else quite revealing about your obvious, urgent need for an I.Q transplant.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this
Americans are that stupid.
Well, you did vote for W twice.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this
@ getabrain
My country was never in country - but I’ve seen enough Oliver Stone and Coppola offerings to understand the liberal take on Nam - that was sardonic sarcasm BTW.
Doubtless you weren’t on Omaha Beach on the LOngest Day in Normandy but would, like me, vehemently dispute ANY sneers about US cowardice that day!!
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this
getalife: John Kerry’s claim to fame is running for the Senate in the land of Oz, Massachusetts AND marrying a billionaire.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
As a real American, I would never try to smear or discredit anyone who had served in a war. Period.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
@ getabrain
tell us - how serious were Kerry’s little band aid boo boos - and how typical were they of purple hearts actually earned by REAL heroes over in Nam?
By clarkslawga
July 16, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this
I hesitate to engage you further Brandon, as I have read the rest of the posts after your response to my admonition of you for your rancor, but here goes. (The reason I hesitate is that I know you won’t listen to anyone who doesn’t think just like you. COme to think of it, you should try buying a parrot.)
Its not just the Democrats who eat their Liebermans. It the dogmatic extremists who eat the free-thinker. Just as the Democrats have their Lieberman, the Republicans have their McCain. It’s about the current political climate, not about which of the ineffective, useless parties you happen to bow down to.
Its the extremes running the 2 big parties right now and it’s time America stood up and said enough.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
time for truth,
What were the Vietcong fighting for?
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
The difference is that kerry not only did a Jane Fonda when he got back, several months early, with his home movie shots ready to show in his campaign ads - but he abused the purple heart system, and connived to get taken out of dangerous duty - its all in the swift boat book - have you actually read it?
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this
Great comeback getalife: I did admit I voted for George W twice, but did you read the lines following that? Remember the W stands for WHORE line? Now let me see, I could’ve voted for George W OR war hero flip-flopper John Kerry. Damn, that’s a tough decision! But I went with the lesser of the 2 evils — George W.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this
the VC were fighting to impose Ho Chi MInh type communism on the south and remove the remaining (given the French had already run away) western imperialists and corrupt South Vietnamese right wing junta - as they saw it - from their country,
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this
Yowsa, Yowsa, Yowsa!!! Clarkslawga: They say that great minds think alike. That last line…”It’s the extremes running the 2 big parties right now and it’s time America stood up and said enough”. Please re-read my 2:50pm post. **We DON’T have positive choice anymore…most of us vote for the lesser of the 2 evils that these SOLD-OUT partieS nominate.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this
getalife: I couldn’t decide which one to vote for so I flip-flopped a coin and W won.
By Brandon
July 16, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this
@clarkslawga:
“What about my post leads you to believe I am any of the things you claim I am?”
Because you sound like the typical liberal troll who pretends to reside in the “middle” when you are actually left.
“I am not now and never have been a liberal. No one who knows me would even come close to believing that.”
Well if you are not, you sure sound like one.
“I am not now nor have I ever been a Democrat. Not that there is anything wrong with that, I am just not one.”
Oh suuuuurrre. And I’ve got a pig to sell you in Lebanon.
“Is the clarsklager thing supposed to be funny. I guess that proves that extremists on both sides really do have no sense of humor.”
Actually that was a typo. Dunno what’s funny about either forum name, actually.
“And what you are actually talking about is shameful name-calling and ad-hominem. attacks (“language appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason” just in case you weren’t sure) that are practiced by extremists on both the right and the left. It’s just the sort of language that we need to do away with, regardless of who is speaking.”
Fair ‘nuff. The first time I see YOU target a leftist poster with aforementioned attacks, then I’ll start listening. Until then, your pseudo-insult at “ad-hominem” and me not understanding it is just another clue at the arrogance that liberals espouse day after day after day on forums and on AM talk radio. I wasn’t born yesterday, mindless minion.
“Tough talk from a tough guy I guess. It kind of reminds of the unfortunate “Bring it on” comment from the President.”
Clue #2 of a liberal: “tough talk.”
“The point I was making is that you can get your point across, sound more intelligent, and actually be taken seriously without all the rancor, or as Foreskin likes to say bromide. It’s just not necessary.”
Clue #3 of a liberal: a Political Snakeskin ally.
“And not everyone who calls you out on something like this is automatically opposed to you politically. I know you extremists (both right and left) love to play the victim (Oh the media bias, oh the poor persecuted Christians, oh the president lied, oh Karl Rove is sooo evil) but the fact is that victimhood is weakness and according to you, Republicans are the New World Toughguys. If that’s so, why so thin skinned.”
Clue #4 of a liberal. When you liberals flap your gums long and hard enough, eventually the truth comes out. If you aren’t a Democrat, I’ve got teets.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this
time for truth,
They were fighting for their independence.
Now, what are the Iraqis fighting for?
Revenge.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this
I agree Bush has sold out his conservative promise/image. His weasel like words and policy on the border is shameful. His refusal to pursue Clinton’s pardon selling and other corruption is shameful, his refusal to hand back at least some of the bile that the party of hate hands out day after day after day is also shameful. Obviously the president should rises above much of the ‘noise’ of congress etc but Bush is invariably like a deer caught in the headlights. And his defence/explanation of Iraq has ben poor too, although has slightly improved recently. he seems to think that “changing the tone is sufficient, yet he doesn’t even manage that. The irrational anti-Bush hate is hilarious but is also politically corrosive because the unelected party of hate media cynically undermines everything he does - unless they explicitly approve of it!! And this costs the US politically around the world, because he’s seen as weak, which in all honesty he isn’t always!!
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this
Which Iraqis?
The ones who want freedom/democracy and a chance of peace or the fascists who want to kill anyone who opposes them…
stupid question!!
By Brandon
July 16, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
@clarkslawga:
“I hesitate to engage you further Brandon, as I have read the rest of the posts after your response to my admonition of you for your rancor, but here goes. (The reason I hesitate is that I know you won’t listen to anyone who doesn’t think just like you. COme to think of it, you should try buying a parrot.)”
Tell ya what sport, when I FIRST read a post of yours complaining about the DEMOCRAT party (like their lack of vision on how better to fight the War On Terror instead of just complaining that Bush is doing everything wrong) then I’ll listen to you.
“Its not just the Democrats who eat their Liebermans. It the dogmatic extremists who eat the free-thinker. Just as the Democrats have their Lieberman, the Republicans have their McCain. It’s about the current political climate, not about which of the ineffective, useless parties you happen to bow down to.”
Well maybe you haven’t been keeping up with current events, but it’s been the DEMOCRATS that have ratched up the rhetoric since Bush got elected in 2000. (Go ahead, tell me he was “selected” and I’ll debate that one with you TOO).
“Its the extremes running the 2 big parties right now and it’s time America stood up and said enough.”
I have no CLUE what you are talking about. The current BUSH administration is doing just about EVERYTHING a DEMOCRATIC administration would have done, EXCEPT cut taxes and be pro-active in dealing with radical islamofascists (unlike the 8 years of do-nothing Clintoon’s Madeleine notsoAlbrightness and that goofy 98-lb dork Warren Christopher).
By getalife
July 16, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
time for the truth,
I am talking about sectarian violence. Do you understand their culture? How do you stop it?
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
time for the truth: You’re right on everything you said. Bush is his own worst enemy. The ONLY thing that keeps the liberal Demoncrats even close in the polls IS the liberal news media. They attack Bush on everything he says or does. But he puts himself in that trap a lot of times by trying to be “nice” to the Demoncrats and the liberal news media and they stab him right in the back. You’d think he would learn after a while. They’re haven’t been his friend, are not his friend, and never will be his friend. But he still tries to “get along” like he did in Texas with the Demoncrats there. BUT these Demoncrats in Washington are a different kind of animal.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this
getalife: I keep telling you liberal boys that the reason you don’t understand history is because you keep on reading the liberal version. The Vietcong were NOT, understand, NOT fighting for THEIR freedom. They lived under a Communist DICTATOR who was trying to enslave the South Vietnamese. Bet your A— that ole Ho wasn’t liberating ANYONE!!!
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this
Of course I understand sectarian violence, its fostered by the Iranians as well as by (outside) arab fascists, and as they comprise only a tiny number of the 25 milion or so population they need to be stamped out. How do you stop it - kill them, or make their life so unbearable they run away or sue for peace. The Marines were stopped in Faluga once from doing it properly and weren’t allowed to do it properly the second time because of stupid local sensitivities. Either you kill the terrorists or you let them run riot - you dont just try and contain them - everyone loses that way!! Its a lack of political willingness to do the obvious that’s keeping things imbalanced.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this
Well boys & girls, it’s been fun but I’m gonna pop me a bag of popcorn, pour a glass of Diet Pepsi, and watch the Israeli’s kick the everlovin’ You know whaaaat out of Hezbollah!!!
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this
Kidding … the LEFTIST DemoNcrats are the most vile of political animals, and the nost hypocritical. But Clinton amusingly lost them the congress and they’ve not got it back, other than when a lefty Senate GOPer cynically crossed over for a while and he’s nowhere now!!
funny how getabrain still has NO understanding of Nam, and what was at stake there. “Freedom ” HA HA HA … from what, commie concentration camps and secret police and forcible re-education etc.
By Brandon
July 16, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this
Ugotta NAILS it!
“They [media whores, democrats] haven’t been his friend, are not his friend, and never will be his friend. But he still tries to “get along.””
A big AAAAAAMEN! to that. When Bush sucked up to Ted “Chappaquiddick Oldsmobile U-boat commander wannabe” Kennedy on education reform, I just about gagged.
Regarding the (AP) media, especially in the White House, Tony Snow seems to be slapping those pitbulls around that his predecessor McClelland could not seem to do. It’s about time somebody put that old liberal walrus Helen Thomas in her place.
However, it appears the New York Slimes and Washington comPost and CNN seem to still be up to their usual liberal suspect ways and do whatever is necessary to make Bush fail in his administration.
Nothing Bush can do will make them happy. If he does nothing but address the UN on North Korea, he “isn’t effective” according to Howard Scream this morning. If he bombs the hell out of North Korea of course, then who will be the first in line to complain that he’s being a cowboy?
The current political tone in Washington AND in the nation in general is hardly, HARDLY the fault of Republilcans.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
time for truth,
Last chance for Iraq peace
Try watching this documentary to understand why they were fighting for their independence and their own country.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
Time for the truth: My popcorn is popping but I had to agree that what is hilarious is that ole Slick Willie lost the House & Senate and the Demoncrats still think that he hung the moon. They haven’t figured it out yet. Brandon: Yeah, that W-Ted Kennedy “thang” I still don’t understand. I know what Bush was trying to do, work with the Demoncrats like he did as Governor of Texas. Someone in the White House didn’t understand the seething hate that had took over the national Demoncratic party and he fell right into their trap.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
It is time to stop thinking “right” or “left” and start thinking what is best for our country and our people.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this
I know bloody well why the terrorists are fighting the democratic reformers and the coalition in Iraq - and its not just for a night with the haggish traitor Cindy Sheehan either. I dont actually need a liberal to patronise me, although its always fun beholding that, but I sure do appreciate your intellectual dishonesty!!
It clearly isn’t “their own country” either!! And exactly what kind of independence are they fighting for … Taleban style?
You ignore all the awkward points I made - christ,you dont even understand why the VC were fighting in Nam … bet you slavishly read the bloody NYT!!
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this
My wife took my bag of popcorn so while I pop another, must reply to getalife: get a clue. The Iraqi’s opportunity to “fight for their independence and their own country” was BEFORE our troops FREED THEM. That was the clue for me!!! It was Saddam Hussein that had them enslaved —- NOT the United States. No wonder Ann Coulter gets so frustrated! It’s not easy being right all the time. LOL
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this
I dont think left - I never do that!! Right is cool though - so long as its not the smug, nutty christian right!!
By getalife
July 16, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this
Da-mn, time for truth,
How high are you right now?
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
KIdding - make sure your popcorn doesn’t have any liberal trans fats on it - otherwise you’ll have the mouthy tub of lesbian lard Rosie O’Donnell pounding on your door demanding a share!!
By getalife
July 16, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
Man, turn off the Fox News, the Rush and read something besides Ann.
Think for yourself.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this
Ain’t that the truth, Time for the truth! I’m not going anywhere yet. Not after that last remark from getalife. I’ve GOT to hear your reply…
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this
getabrain is clearly unable to process awkward debating points … quelle surprise!!
By Brandon
July 16, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this
Has anybody noticed that when right-wingers try to hold their own in a political forum and fire back at mindless minion liberals that we are just being “divisive?” Liberals are the FIRST group to shout “I’m offended” at what a Republican says, but yet sits there with their pretty pinko panties ironed out while Howard Screech Dean says things like “I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for.”
Ann Coulter said it best: “Liberals have two sets of rules… one set for themselves and another for everybody else who isn’t liberal.”
Oh, and for any mindless minion liberal complaining about Coulter (or Rush) being divisive: she is NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE NOR HOLDS OFFICE like Howard Scream.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
Your right, I should have known better to talk to someone who does not have an original thought.
Just another wingnut hooked on what other people say.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
I do think for myself mate - which is why I am a proud SECULAR CONSERVATIVE!!
I understand you cant think for yourself, now that deadair America has left Atlanta with its treasonous Bush hate in full George Soros slush fund retreat!!
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this
no original thoughts?
HA HA HA … YOU’RE HAVING A PATHETIC, BRAINLESS LEFTY LAUGH!!!
I’ve had more original thoughts in the past month than ALL you election stealing pinkos had chads in FL back in 2000!
By getalife
July 16, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this
I do not listen to entertainers on talk radio.
I do read too much though.
Funny how wingnuts all sound the same. It is like people with one brain.
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
Getalife: MY POPCORN’S GETTING COLD! WE’VE never had an original thought? Most liberals have never had a thought. They’ve simply repeated the same old worn-out arguments for decades…that y’all have read in books. Liberals can’t wipe their getalife without first consulting a book for directions and then it takes both hands. When you grow up and have a family and have some REAL WORLD experiences you’ll “see the light and the error of your liberal ways” and become a dyed-in-the-wool conversative. I’ll save you a seat.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
But if you read treasonous, hateful anti-Bush bile you get a deeply flawed and imbalanced world view which you then ventilate hilariously on forums!
I read a great deal too - and I actually inwardly digest it - hence the logical/factual superiority of my posts to you this afternoon
You may not agree with my conclusions of course, but my posts were mostly fact packed - yours said bugger all, mostly!!
By getalife
July 16, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
If liberal means that I am one of the majority that believes this country is heading in the wrong direction, I guess then, I am a liberal.
I prefer American because I do not belong to any political party. I vote for the people who I think will be best for my country.
By Brandon
July 16, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this
Best comment O’Day by TFTT:
“I understand you cant think for yourself, now that deadair America has left Atlanta with its treasonous Bush hate in full George Soros slush fund retreat!!”
Only that fat liberal idiot pseudo-comedian Al Freaken still has airtime on 1690. How fitting that that shows of uneducated idiot Racheal Meadow (who herself said she couldn’t even hold a job at a coffee house… typical idiot liberal) and that absolute pathetic hatemonger excuse for carbon, Randi Rhoadkill, have been replaced by the likes of “Modern Ethiopian Music Hour” (that must be more interesting).
How sad that stupid liberals couldn’t even make it in the free market of Atlanta without being a moneypit. Sad indeed.
By getalife
July 16, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this
time for truth,
Are you in England?
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
LIberals are … allaaaaaargh be praised … NOT a majority, as for the “wrong” direction, clearly that is a very loaded, self serving statement.
I dont belong to any party in this country either … but I usually vote GOP - although not for Ralph Reed …
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
NOPe … I’m in the Atlanta metro area - have been for several years now!!
By getalife
July 16, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this
I am guessing by your English you are from Australia or England.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this
I am English - I am NOT a convict!! THat was an actionable hate crime, suggesting I am an bloody aussie!! :)
By getalife
July 16, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
Well, you probably will not like this but I am Italian.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
a full blooded Italian from Italy? - or an Italian- American from US immigrants some time ago?
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
Why do you think we won’t like you because you’re Italian, getalife?
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this
Because he’s gonna make us offer we cant refuse!
he might be that very tubby Soprano captain that finally got wacked after hanging out in New Hampshire for awhile in the last series!
By Ugotta B. Kidding
July 16, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
Time for the truth: THAT was the best line of the day, “Because he’s gonna make us an offer we can’t refuse!” It’s sure as heck the funniest line of the day.
By time for the truth
July 16, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
cheers mate
By The Way
July 16, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this
Retardo-rama
By clarkslawga
July 17, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this
Brandon,
I was simply trying to let you in on a well known fact. Regardless of your position politically when all you do is spew venom and hate, no one listens to you with the exception of those that already agree with you. Do you honestly believe that anyone other than the most ardent left wingers listen to Al Franken or read his books. Same with Ann Coulter. If the people who already believed in them didn’t buy into their garbage, no one would.
Additionally, despite your inability to accept it, there are a great deal of people who are actually in the middle on most issues. To be to the left of you is obviously pretty easy. But to be to your left is cetainly not to be a liberal. But if you want to see the world in such black and white terms then fine. I’ll be a liberal for you. I’ll be your boogeyman. BOO!
I read your initial post and thought, “Here’s a pretty smart guy, too bad he can’t convince anyone of the validity of his position since he sounds like a knuckle dragging trogladyte.”
Now, after getting nothing but childish defensiveness and being called “liberal” all afternoon while I was out in the yard (and you can call me anything you want really, you won’t get to me. You lack the intelligence to anger me. So do your worst.) I realize I was wrong. You don’t sound like a knuckle dragging trogladyte.
You are the bonifide, real deal.
By clarkslawga
July 17, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this
Oh, and I’ll be unavailable all day Monday so I won’t be able to respond to anything you have to say. So it’s a really good time for you practice your name-calling and smearing. I’ll be just like you like your enemies, unable to fight back.
Have fun. I can’t wait to see how creatively hateful you can be.
By chuck
July 17, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this
While watching news reports about the Mexican presidential election a couple of weeks ago, I saw something quite astonishing. The voters were showing picture id’s and the poll workers had books to match the voters with their id cards. Quite amazing.
By Tiger-san
July 17, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this
Jimmy you just do not get it! The Rs are the party of bigots, polluters, gun-nuts and anti-government hypocrits. Very funny saying the Rs are for limited government, fiscal discipline, strong defense and personal responsibility! Limted government for whom? Fiscal responsibility, you have to be kidding. Strong defense as long as it is some else’s kid that is the soilder, marine, sailor or airman. Where are the steel reinforced Humvees? Where are the kevlar vests and helmets? And personal responsibility hey the first thing you right-wingers do when a misfortune occurs is yell, ‘where’s the goverment’? Next time you have a fire I suggest you call the local Republican Party headquarters for help!
By Brian Curtis
July 17, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this
“Republicans’ Pandering Unbecoming”… and your take on the suddenly-urgent issues of flag burning and gay marriage in an election year are what, exactly?
If that’s not pandering, what is?
By Brandon
July 19, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this
Clarkslawga -
You have failed for the third time now as I challenged you to show me what YOU disagree with in the Democrat party. You have no problem giving SPECIFICS about the Republicans, but yet your silence about the left is deafening. One would be led to believe that if you are TRULY “middle” like you claim to be, you’d be making SPECIFIC comments about problems in and with the Democrat party. Yet, nar a peep from you. Like I said, I can connect the dots.
Further, what is up with your fascination of the word “hate?” That is yet another gift the left likes to call on all Republicans when they read something they don’t agree with. Again, no peep out of you for the “hate” coming out of the LEADING democrat party like Howard Dean. Now, give me ONE example of what you profess to be “hate” coming from my posts. Go ahead sport! I’m all ears.
Personally, I don’t care what you or anybody else thinks about my posts. The Atlanta Urinal & Communist Manifesto is festering with liberals and the loon left, so I know that libs hate the very idea that Wooten is even in that left-leaning rag and with a blog here.
Republicans never get upset when someone espouses a different viewpoint, but boy, let a conservative fire off a couple of volleys and he should be SHUT UP!
Finally clarkslawga, it appears to me that I have said something that you know is true and you can’t let it go… it’s getting under your skin. That’s yet another example of a liberal: thin-skinned. You don’t see ME complaining about what others say, do you? Wanna know why? Because I’m a confident conservative who’s core beliefs, values, and convictions stand firm and I will not be swayed like Bill Clinton and run policies based upon what OTHERS think. If you like to run your convictions on which way the “people” are heading, then what you have to say means nothing to me.