Thinking Right

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

Well, Jim, you finally got around to saying what should have been said last week. It isn’t JUST the Miami terrorists types and Hollywood that are guilty, it is also the news media such as AJC.

You tactfully omitted Luckovich.”He’s my buddy and not too heavy to carry” was what we got after his “Pot & Kettle” propaganda piece. You can carry him but he is a heavy burden to the average American citizen, one who supports the troops, the government and the President. The average American who would never burn the flag, torture or “cut & run”.

Your newspaper presented a few letters of complaint about Luckovich’s torture cartoon when there were hundreds, if not thousands, that complained. A fair assessment?

Glad to have you back in the fold, Jim. We knew you were with us but it got pretty shaky there for a while.

By Reformed Conservative

June 26, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this

*Wooten’s Premise: The liberally-spun media-fed zeitgeist forges terrorists from a domestic pool of well fed, well clothed, worry free yet bored and angry victims of their own paradoxical ambivalence who are unable to see the moral choice in the dual nature of any observation.

Wooten’s Conclusion The cause of domestic terrorism is the natural byproduct of the wave/particle duality of nature and existence itself, aggrevated by liberals who think they can select their audience, ignoring the fact that lurking jihadists watch TV and can read.

my comment My God, he’s right. The Columbine Killers were just the beginning. The liberals in this society dont understand that words have power to mold minds and instill hate in the blank pages of any young ambivalent observer.

From now on, I’m listening to Rush Limbaugh only, and Fox news only. Anyone know when Ann Coulter’s new book comes out on paperback?

One thing: we certainly can easily spot the well fed candidates for the governor of Georgia, but the well fed jihadist is harder to spot.

By Huh?

June 26, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

So Mr. Wooten. Should an innocent man remain in prison? I don’t quite understand your statement regarding DNA testing. Are you saying that once someone is convicted they should stay convicted even if DNA proves them innocent? Are you saying deny them a DNA test? Obviously, based upon the rash of “convicted” rapist that have been cleared by DNA, there are innocent people being convicted of crimes. We should be applauding a method that rights these wrongs.

By Jill Henson

June 26, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

What the heck is Reformed Conservative talking about? Liberals have caused all this country’s problems and making fun of it is pathetic. You sir, belong behind bars. The dual nature of what? Intellectuals were the problem in Stalins era, and he knew what to do with you and your ilk. Einstein himself was a fly in the ointment of the Third Reich’s attempt to spread the peace and prosperity of the German People. We were too nice to the intellectuals and we let them get away. That wont happen this time. Newt Ginrich is going to be our next president, sir. And then you will pay. All the liberals will pay. NEWT FOR PRESIDENT IN ‘08!!!

By Zeke

June 26, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

Right on! All these liberals, socialist, communists and anti US so called activists, which are in reality anarchists trying to do Kruschev’s plan to overthrow us from within, want to do is make us a socialist country! Take from the successful and give to the leeches! Penalize hard work, perserverance and success! Time to change all that! Any celebrity who continues to act in this manner should be shunned! The dixie chickens found out! Start by taking the windfall money of the Hollywood elite so that they only have $30 to $50,000 per year! Then see how long they will keep up this farce!

By Bel

June 26, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

I want to make sure I understand you correctly. So what your saying is, “All the problems of the world is because of liberals?” Without liberals there would be world peace & nirvana on earth?

By Jill Henson

June 26, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Oh, Zeke, we have plans for the Hollywood elite, their pretty faces, and those pretty clothes. They are the well clothed jihadists Jim referred to. I know it. You know it. All patriotic americans know it. We’ll see what a few years in Guatanamo next to all those other terrorists will do for the acting community. We only have to wait a couple more years till Newt takes office. But we must marshall our efforts and pace ourselves. These things must be handled delicately. We cant give our plans away too soon. Keep the faith, my fellow patriot!!!!

By Jill Henson

June 26, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this

Yes, Bel. That is our manifesto. The Pentagon recently issued a scientific report labeling “Gay” as a brain disease, possible contagious. I have faith in the joint chiefs of staff, for whom our dear president is commander in chief, and I have to trust that irrefutable finding. We get rid of, or convert the liberals, and global peace and prosperity is possible. Newt in ‘08. He’s the key. Donate. Communicate. Address your local churches. Contant Ralph Reed. Donate. Donate. We need at least 500 million dollars to do this right. Get on the phone now. Everyone must do their part. Organize night marches with torches, so that the beautiful light of truth will shine in the darkness of the liberal hell we are trying to heal. HEAL! HEAL! HEAL!

By Jim (not Wooten)

June 26, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this

Jill Henson’s comments scare me. I hope she is just being sarcastic. If not, it looks like a full-fledged Neo-Nazi has posted to this site.

By just passing through

June 26, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

Terrorism stems from disenfrancisment, not the “liberal media”. People who feel left out of opportunity, education, advancement and society seek to be seen, heard and felt and some will resort to any means available — including violent actions.

If you shine a light on an ugly problem that has been lurking in the dark fringes of a society, that isn’t the cause of the ugly problem. It just makes it visible. Once visible, you can take steps to correct the problem.

I guess it’s just way too easy to blame the “liberal media” and hope the problem would go away, and everyone will be happy and healthy and well educated and informed — just like Jim and his cohorts on this blog.

If only those “home grown terrorists” were just more patriotic, more conservative, more responsible, more like Jim it would all be ok but that evil “libral media” won’t let them fester in that dark corner that is their existance, will it? Don’t shine any lights on the problem, just make them more like Jim and his little buddies at Fox News then it will all go away.

I think I’ll remain part of the opposition, Jim, you reminded me why you can never trust the neo-cons in this country. They ultimately want everyone to look, think, act and be just like them (or, more corretly, as they perceive themselves to be).

I need a shower after reading your garbage today. Just reading it leaves a layer of grime, I can only imagine what it does to someone who wrote it.

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this

Reformed Conservative,

You have never beeen a conservative, much less reformed. Behold!! We have here a liberal escapee from academe who is quoting his latest psychodelic term paper. We are so impressed.

By golly, I will burn a Coulter book, shake Murtha’s hand, purchase a Luckovich “drawing”, vote for McKinney, and give Kerry another medal for bravery in France.

Come over tonight, We are having a hot dog roast over a burning flag. You’ll love it. Bring your protest signs. There’s still room on the front lawn. And don’t forget the passwords, “Bush did it!”

By Bernie

June 26, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

Do you really expect people to believe this drivel? Insinuating that the torure this administration has sanctioned is nothing more than keeping prisoners in “a room that’s too warm”? Or the clearly racism comment about Malcolm X and immigrants? Your white privledge allows you the luxury of this twisted world view. In case you haven’t noticed from your sweet smelling, climate controlled, white bread world what’s painful obvious to those of us living here in the real world; the enemy has been identified and the enemy is WE THE PEOPLE. ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!

By Reformed Conservative

June 26, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

D’OH!

By Van

June 26, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Bernie,

You appear to be a young idealist. You have had everything given to you growing up and now have to finance it yourself.

Life is hard for anyone that has worked their entire life and is now enjoying the fruits of their labor.

I started working 41 years ago, I have raised two children, both college grads and employeed. Yes. I have earned my white bread.

Bernie, the only way for you to survive is to get a job and work your a$$ off until you retire. This is the secret of our society, if you want it bad enough, the work for it hard enough. Nothing will be handed to you without massive amounts of strings attached.

Live free, think for yourself, and foil the plans of the tyrants.

Now ask yourself, who are the tyrants, the people that want other people to experience a democratic society or those that want to keep everyone under their thumb, like Saddam, or militant extremeist.

By Mike

June 26, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Jim, As always, you make absolute sense. Thanks! And keep up the good work. Mike

By Janine

June 26, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Such a short memory, Mr. Wooten. THere have always been dissenting voices in America…and louder than they are now… Have you forgotten the 60’s and 70’s? And then there were no Rush Limbaughs and Hannitizers bombarding us daily with the opposite view i.e..how wonderful the president is and how right the war is, etc.. and how it’s really okay to load those young people with hideous debt for this pursuit…. And as for viewing their country as “the enemy”….not nearly as many young people today are of that ilk as there were during the Viet Nam war. You have taken a very complicated situation and tried to simplify it by assigning blame to those who do not share your opinions. There are many factors that contribute to domestic terrorism….among them…ACCESS.. through the internet, to others who feel as they do… as well as access to “how to” instructions……Less oversight by adults..more of them are busy pursuing their own “self fulfillment” [read that money]….And as for your statement that our institutions..”.government, the church, business” pushing us into “evil adventures abroad”….it’s hard to explain why we pick Iraq to invade/”save” when other Arab countries did much more to hide, support, and finance Osama’s 9/11. Young people are now and have always been susceptable to causes that are anti-establishment..and to say that these few examples you mention represent the mindset of today’s youth if outrageous. However…..WHen close to 70% of the American people disapprove of what’s going on today….their voices are going to be heard.

By Rednecks - America's Al Qaeda

June 26, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

@ Jill,

Newt is way too intellectual for the Wooten crowd. They will only be happy when Bush crowns himself Emperor of North America. He’s the Great Decider.

By Southern Democrat

June 26, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

I had thought that this blog might be one of the last bastions of civil, political discourse on the Net. Today’s post reveals that Mr. Wooten would prefer for it to be just another rallying camp for the far right; which is fine, he has earned the right as a journalist to dictate the tone of his own blog.

This particular posting, however, makes me immeasurably sad. I do not have the energy left to attempt to dissect the misconceptions, flawed logic, and xenophobia it represents.

I will answer the ultimate question, however, before bidding this blog adieu (does anybody know of one where Dems & G.O.P.’ers can get together and offer real solutions to our problems?), and that is:

As a former teacher of Georgians, as someone who has lived in Washington, D.C., New York, and whose place of employment was on the list of Miami targets, do I feel safer today than I did on September 12, 2001? The answer is, without hesitation, NO.

If you do not think that this Administration has failed you in virtually every way and that we ALL need to figure out how to do better, then I do not know what it will take for you to wake up. I hope that someday soon, we can move past the Clinton-Bush era of incompetent leadership, diminish partisanship, stop pointing fingers, and start solving problems.

By Vet

June 26, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

Jerry Oliver of the U.S. Army, who has just returned from Baghdad, writes:

?I have just returned home from “Operation Iraqi Freedom”. I spent 5 months in Baghdad, and a total of 3 years in the U.S. Army. I was recently discharged with Honorable valor and returned to the States only to be horrified by what I’ve seen my country turn into. I’m now 22 years old and have discovered America is such a complicated place to live, and moreover, Americans are almost oblivious to what’s been happening to their country. America has become “1984.” Homeland security is teaching us to spy on one another and forcing us to become anti-social. Americans are willingly sacrificing our freedoms in the name of security, the same Freedoms I was willing to put my life on the line for. The constitution is in jeopardy. As Gen. Tommy Franks said, (broken down of course) One more terrorist attack and the constitution will hold no meaning.?

By Janine

June 26, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

AMEN, Southern Democrat!

By Our Kids

June 26, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

An Army private, still in Iraq and wishing to remain anonymous, writes:

?I would like to tell you how difficult it is to serve under a man who was never elected. Because he is the president and my boss, I have to be very careful as to who and what i say about him. This also concerns me a great deal… to limit the military’s voice is to limit exactly what America stands for… and the greater percentage of us feel completely underpowered. He continually sets my friends, my family, and several others in a kind of danger that frightens me beyond belief. I know several other soldiers who feel the same way and discuss the situation with me on a regular basis.?

By Mother Goose

June 26, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

Imagine if Mother Goose wrote our news stories……..

The never-bashful Tony Snow’s white lies about the Sleepy-celled Chicago Seven dwarfs all previous spin doc’s lies concerning the unhappy situation of the witchhunt for domestic terrorists who might attack the big apple next.

cut one

The Iraqi Parliament passed a law offering amnesty to all illegal immigrants in the US and calling for a withdrawal timetable for US troops from the Rio Grande and New Orleans.

cut one

Wait a minute, was there an apple in the snow white story? Wasn’t that sleeping beauty? Darn it! I always get those two mixed up!

By Bernie

June 26, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

Van, Spoken like a true capitalist pig. Hey, but thanks for the patronizing and paternal advise… I’m sure you’re well meaning. Please do try to avoid the depression that comes with trying to win at this rigged game. I hear either Zoloft or Prozac works pretty well, but try like hell to avoid the suicidal tedencies. Oh and don’t take it out on the wife and kids, or the dog, please.

By Synergy

June 26, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Wooten is entirely well suited for tabloid journalism. There is no effort to even try to understand an opposing POV. His is a take no prisoners style of argumentation. As far as Jim is concderned, he’s right and we’re wrong. Wooten is a legend in his own mind. I love spirited debate, but this is a complete waste of time for even a minimally informed citizen who is concerned with where our society is headed.

By just passing through

June 26, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

Southern Democrat — well said. Perhaps Jim gets a bonus per post, that would explain his pandering to the lowest form of neo-con with this blog topic.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

We were all well chastised by Jim, circular logic or not, sir. I think we do go too far in threatening the opposition during blogging debates. Many bloggers make terrorists threats against fellow blogging americans in a time of war, and I’m not sure, but I think that’s a felony. What’s remarkable, is that these threats come from bloggers who have identified themselves via their e-mail address, so that one phone call to the FBI could result in dozens of arrests. (If the FBI ever enforced existing laws enacted since 911)

By getalife

June 26, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this

Jim,

After reading you are friends with Mike and stood up for him I will no longer call you wingnut Wooten.

As for today’s topic, it only takes a handful of people angry with our government to pull off an attack here. Unfortunately, due to W’s foreign policies there are millions of people angry with our government.

By Harold

June 26, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

WANNABEES is right. How wonderful that our homeland security department rounded up a bunch of complete losers for running their mouths.

These guys would have been lucky to terrorize America with stealing hubcaps without getting shot by a feisty granny.

They pledged allegiance to Al Qaeda, and Al Qaede hit “DELETE” “DELETE” “DELETE” “DELETE”

How about rounding up some Communists? Those are the real troublemakers. We forgot all about them since the 1950s but they are still out there feverishly plotting our destruction!

By Edward

June 26, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

To Jim and all his like-minded folks:

What’s your alternative?

Are we to never criticize America? I mean, all your straw men/jokes aside (I can’t tell which they are—either way, they’re disingenuous), is the rule that we are never allowed to question the government? Never allowed to criticize what we see as poor choices by our elected officials?

You suggest the end of democracy.

Oh, and where were you when the Republicans were blasting Clinton over Kosovo?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200405030001(http://mediamatters.org/items/200405030001)

By Debbie

June 26, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Just goes to prove that Islam is NOT a peaceful religion. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

Bush’s speeches after 911 gave me comfort. Why, he was Lincolnesque in the way he vowed to hunt and destroy Al Queda. I knew then the right man was president. Then Afghanistan: I cheered as our B52 pounded the defensive lines of the Taliban and was heartened when we had Osama and AL Queda surrounded. We had only to reach out and grab them.

Somehow, (google it yourself), OBL slipped away with Al Queda intact.

Then came Iraq, and Bush was correct, the mission was accomplished quickly. The mission to occupy Iraq and stop any possible future WMD attack from Iraq on the west, and topple Saddam. THE Mission was accomplished.

And BUSH does deserve credit for that

Now, we have a three year occupation to protect a free people electing a free government which will negotiate justice and allocate national resources in Iraq.

If we stay the course, logically, then the occupation will end.

The insurgency is a natural byproduct of any new nation. We had vigilantes after the revolution, and after the civil war, and we have them now. No country is free of insurgents. History tells us so.

So the real threat is the newly elected Iraqis themselves who are now insisting that we set a timetable for withdrawal and offer amnesty to the insurgents before we have finished staying the course.

When our former enemies turned allies become our enemies again, then we have to turn allies with former enemies and become aligned with the insurgency to force the new Iraqi government to let us stay the course, and then we’ll turn enemy again to our former ally, the insurgents, and stay the course.

It’s simple and clear to me. I dont want to hear any more guff about his topic from liberals and traitors.

I said no more guff

By Janine

June 26, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

Mr. W…..Your comment that domestic terrorism of the kind uncovered in the last couple of months may be the consequence of young people growing up hearing “how evil and opressive their country is”…..DID YOU FORGET../.that is how millions of children grew up during the MLK error….all children…not just black children. MLk and his contemporaries spoke eloquently and often about the evils and oppression in the USA…and their struggle is still in the forefront in Social Studies and American History classes in all of our schools…..public and private!!! Before women got the right to vote….they expounded on oppression in the USA…. MR. WOOTEN….SURELY YOU SEE THAT YOUR COMMENTS TODAY ARE OUTRAGEOUSLY OFF TARGET!

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

It surely would be nice to hear a leftist condemn the purported terrorism plan, rather than instantly defend the purported terrorists. Instead the focus of the left seems to be to deny the obvious, and to attack the protectors. If, in addition to the standard platitudes about a presumption of innocence, the leftists would give some statement of social standards, we would have more confidence in the judgment of the leftists.

Such is as it always has been - Sacco and Vanzetti, Hiss, the Rosenbergs. No murder by a leftist, and no treason, is great enough to prompt condemnation by those who oppose freedom.

By Bush Sheep

June 26, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

George Washington

By Janine

June 26, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

I have not read any of the comments here that condone the terrorism plans, JMBLAW….Just comments taking issue with the reasons for them that Mr Wooten has come up with…

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Southern Democrat and other refugees from the DNC,

Why don’t you spruce up this discussion by offering us some Democratic Success Plans for the country? Some DEMOCRATIC IDEAS?

Now remember, Democrats, these are NOT original, ideas or “planks”: *Bush Sucks!! Bush Lies!!Cut’n’Run, Chaney Lies, Rove Lies, Snow Lies, We Support the Troops Who Torture, Get Gitmo, We Support Cuba, I’M SCARED Group, Burn the Flag & Save the Country Group, the Dastardly Dissent Group, and the Support the Miami Terrorist Group.

Now, Democrats, think of something new and different. None of the above will pass as ideas or goals. Got it?

Reformed Conservative,

??D’OH?? I’m still impressed. Is that French?

By DID I MISS SOMETHING?

June 26, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

I haven’t seen, read, or heard a liberal defend the Miami Terrorists, but for some reason the right-wingers keep saying the liberals are defending these home-grown terrorist, are the right-wingers lying?

Someone provide a Link or quote from a Democratic Politician that supports these Miami Terrorist and I’ll stand corrected!

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

The Chicago Seven’s plans included procuring binnoculars, boots, and bullet proof vests, and an army.

So you get this, JBMLAW, the real next 911 wont be perrpetrated by morons. All it takes is one man willing to die stepping on an airliner, somehow getting through the screens. It takes the subtle observation of crowd flow logistics and knowing where to stick a monkeywrench in a rube goldberg chain of events. We have to hope that W has set the think tanks in motion imagining all the scenarios from chemical/nuclear plants to sports arenas, to airlines to trains and even to traffic jams where thousands of cars are all stopped and vulnerable to a handful of armed attackers. Real terrorists are probably unstoppable. Maybe if we had 135K troops set around the nation training and practicing emergency response to any conceivable attack instead of thrashing around in the desert in a god forsaken continent……W once asked all americans to call in attack scenarios to the CIA and FBI for consideration of it’s viability and possible defense remedies. Remember that?…..Man, if that’s all we got, then pass the bong, roast the marshmellows and play the guitar cause I would have never guessed 911’s logistical plan ever in a million years…. and apparently neither could the FBI or the CIA.

Dont you just love the “I knew this would happen” clowns now in charge? I knew it! Listen to me!! Everybody to get from street! EMERGENCY! EVERYBODY TO GET FROM STREET!

By Harold

June 26, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

-The Otherside Lounge -Abortion clinics -The 1996 Olympics -The Oklahoma Federal Building -WTC towers

All blown up by Religious Right Wackos.

Every one of them.

Not by liberals. Not by Democrats.

The Religious Right is the clear and present danger in the USA, whether it’s Christians or Muslims.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

emergency!! Everybody to get from street!!

Emergency!! Everybody to get from street!!

By Harold

June 26, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

Churches and Mosques both must be infiltrated by the agents of the NSA. This is where the architects of our destruction plot their deeds. Religious Freedom is going to destroy America if we do not stamp it out. We either surrender all other freedoms to maintain religious freedom, or we punt on religion and maintain our important freedoms.

By MBA in ATL

June 26, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

Dusty — Sun Tzu in the Art of War —

an Untenable position shall not be held to the last man, instead create your options under more favorable conditions to sustain your ultimate goal

Perhaps if we are more clear on the actual goal in Iraq — Saddam is on trial, they have an elected government. Now we appear to creating conditions for a permenant US occupation in Iraq, perhaps a middle east colony?

This appears to be an untenable territory and an unwinnable war. we either stay forever, supporting the puppet regime we have created or we decide our troops are more important than saving face.

By viktor

June 26, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

Liberals, the enemy within? Absolutely. They are a greater threat to our security than any jihadist. They hide behind their “disenfranchisement,”less fortunate,” “poor,” and “freedom of the press” crapola. They breed terrorism from within and without. What do you think the islamist radicals think about gay marriage, the ERA, Godless public institutions, personal conscience ethics? Now they are fomenting hate from within their own ranks. I say of with THEIR heads!

By Janine

June 26, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

My Granddaddy once told me TO BEWARE when a leader of ANY country starTs claiming that he haS gotten a plan from God…or that God has approved his plan, or that God is on his side, or that another nation is Godless…..WATCH OUT….NOTHING GOOD CAN COME OF IT AND REAL FREEDOM IS ON IT’S WAY OUT!!!

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this

Did I Miss, when you say “Democratic Politician,” do you include Cindy Shiite or the Jersey Harpies? (wink)

By Janine

June 26, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

We all are aware of the theocracies of the worl…but…I HAVE HEARD MR. BUSH DECLARE GOD’S SUPPORT ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION….SCAREY!!!!

By Van

June 26, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

Jim Wooten,

I give you the majority of the posters to this blog as to what is wrong with America today. No one cares about the whole. Everyone is worried about there own little sphere.

By Janine

June 26, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

Harold…..history proves you right…nothing good ever comes of Religion and Government getting in bed together. The issue with the Bush administration …as well as some of the potential candidates for 2008 .. that is most dangerous is their pandering to the religious right…nothing diminishes freedom more than thinking that God is supporting your cause…

By Janine

June 26, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

WHOA, MR. WOOTEN….Did you not ask for “comments” on your opinion? Not all, but most posters have done that….I am not getting your last comment about “no one cares about the whole…” WHat do you see as the “whole” that we’re missing…?ANd what do you see as our “own little sphere” that we are concentrating on>????

By What!?!!!?

June 26, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

So Timothy McVey was a leftist in his principals? Last time I checked, it was the government he blamed, not the MSM. Never mind that jihadists and terrorists tend to come from the militant far right, it’s the media’s fault. Fox news and conservative talk radio are part of the MSM, so can we cut out the MSM hysteria? If you haven’t noticed, Republicans are the ones in control of our government, so they share equal if not more blame. Or would that shed negative light on conservatives and the Republican Party, a no-no in your column.

By Mr. White

June 26, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

We rewrite history, certainly of the last 50 years, so that yesterday’s bad guys, Malcolm X for example, are today’s heroes BAD GUY??? This article (opinion) proves Malcolm words oh so true…

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

MBA in ATL

So…SunTzu was the original “cut’n’run” phiosopher? Was that his nom de plume for Murtha?

If you think we want to stay in Iraq just for American fun and games, your masters degree should have been in Occult Visions. You certainly see something I have never seen.

Americans want their troops home so bad you can taste it. But we do not desert the people we have promised to help establish freedom. You know. The HONORABLE thing to do. Check your figures, MBA.

By Big Sphere

June 26, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

Yes, Dusty is right, for pete’s sake! Make the media STOP disseminating any information that doesn’t come straight from Rove’s talking points! If it ain’t from the White House or GOP leaders, it will not be printed, it will not be said, and it will not be spoken or thought by ANY private citizens anywhere! That’ll teach those un-‘murican leftie bedwetters to shut up and agree with our fearless, God-chosen leader, no matter how many soliers come home in boxes! There. Thank you Dusty for your insightful solution!

By MBA in ATL

June 26, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

Dusty — what you suggest is that this is somehow a tenable situation. I suggest that this is creating a colony — not necessarily a bad proposition from a business stand point, controlling your supply lines and costs can be an excellent thing.

Sun Tzu principles guide actions towards greatest possible gain, not “cut and run”. Is it just easier for you to decide anything you don’t agree with falls into your “off limits” category or do you just not comprehend the concept of cost/benefit analysis?

By Did I Miss Something

June 26, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

I’m still waiting on a link or some type of proof that a Democrat has come to the defense or support of the Miami Terrorist……….

………..crickets………………

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

Dear MBA in Atlanta, your comment questions the definition war. Is Iraq a war or not?

Dear viktor: you keep making the left’s most salient point: Q “What do the terrorists think of Gay Marriage? the ERA? godless public institutions and public conscience”? A The same thing the right thinks about it! Congratulations you’ve achieved consensus with the jihadists.

Dont comment for the right unless you can fortify a conservative plank.

AL Gore is looking for campaign volunteers, sir. Shall I give them your name??

By Jeff

June 26, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

jbm,

my God, we’re agreeing???? How can this be????

Harold,

Your 10:37 post scares the living sht out of me! In the words of Franklin: “Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither.”*

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Dear did i miss something: W used crickets to catch that fish he talks about that was bigger than those fish even get (if he believed in biology and evolution).

By Van

June 26, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

The Question -

What messages do we send or fail to send — as parents, as the media, including Hollywood and the entertainment industry, as opinion leaders in whatever profession — that tempt well-fed and sometimes well-schooled wannabes to become terrorists?

Fill the head of a student with the garbage that Mr. Murtha is spitting out and you will have a terrorist. “American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to an audience of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon.”

Tell people a lie often enough and they will believe it. America is evil, America is a terrorist country, America is listening in on your phone calls to grandma - all these are lies, but the empty headed lefties believe it. I bet they even believe we bombed the World Trade Towers, the USS Cole and the African US Embassies ourselves.

By Jeff

June 26, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

Oh, and in regards to Malcolm X:

I’ll refer you to the movie Xmen 3: The Last Stand. You see, the X-men series has always been about racial equality. When they started out, Professor X was based on MLK and Magneto was based on Malcolm X. Magneto is CONSTANTLY saying that humans need to be eradicated so that mutants can rule - by any means necessary, one of Malcolm X’s oft said phrases. Professor X works with the humans to achieve real equality. Magneto just wants his group to reign supreme and give to the humans what the humans have been dishing out.

I ask you now: Who is the terrorist? Who has the better motives? Who is right? Explain.

Answers there tell me exactly how you feel about true racial equality…

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this

Jeff, this sounds like a job for underdog!

By Weatherman

June 26, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

Has anyone stopped to think that ONE storm can take out more people than those killed by terrorists in the entire history of this planet?

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Dear Jeff,

I frighten many people that way - I am one of those libertarian types. Government does only three things well: (1) kill people, (2) steal freedom, and (3) steal property. So long as its efforts are directed only at those who would otherwise do the same on an individual basis (after all, big government does not want the competition), I support the government. I generally assign “deprivation of freedom” as a socialist trait.

By M.Roberson

June 26, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

The Jim Wooten Dictionary, Revised Edition

Patriot: (pat-riot); to avoid war by going AWOL in Alabama; to send men and women to war without ever experiencing it yourself; to declar victory in the face of a worsening situations; to say NO to flag burning and dangerous Mexican immigrants.

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

Dear Weatherman,

No storm has ever deprived any individual of his freedom. We do not target terrorists because they are killers, although that would be sufficient reason; we target terrorists because their purpose is to inhibit freedom.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

Dear Jbmlaw: Your comment said three things in order: 1you support the government, 2you dont support, and 3you do support.

I’m got a concussion trying to follow along. Man Down! “I’m okay!”

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

Dear jbmlaw: No storm every stole no freedom no how? You must not have been around for the storm of criticism of Luckovich’s Terror Cartoon. The poor sod was last seen in the exectutive bathroom here at the AJC newsroom staring in the mirror mumbling “Draw what you know draw what you know draw what you know…”

Poor sod.

By KC

June 26, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

Terrorism is the fault of Liberals? Really? Interesting. What else is our fault? Inflation? Herpes? Unwanted body odor? Get a grip on reality. Terrorist are the most CONSERVATIVE people on earth, who arise from the most CONSERVATIVE (typically religious) backgrounds. Does that mean that Republicans in this country caused the worlds terrorism problem? Uh, no. How about…NO POLITICAL PARTY OR WORLDVIEW IN THIS COUNTRY HAS A THING TO DO WITH IT! Christ almighty when will people stop trying to blame a political philosophy for each and every evil in the world and accept that bad folks do bad things because they WANT to.

Have a great day everybody.

By To: Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

“To announce that there must be NO criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President Right or Wrong, is not only UNPATRIOTIC and SERVILE, but is Morally TREASONABLE to the American Public.”

Former Republican President, Theodore Roosevelt

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

Dear KC: you forgot “v**** itch”, as another neo-con plot. Remember, the neocons will not allow young women healthcare even if it might detect cervical cancer because any attention you draw to the v**** would necessarily result in a crack ho, and there’s no disputing that fact, jack.

Newt for president in ‘08.

By Ann

June 26, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

I usually do not answer blogs, but this one struck me as being offensive. Mr. Wooten, no one breeds (no let me clarify this one word), no one gives birth to wannabe terrorists. You give birth to a child that you hope will become a useful member of our society. You can raise your child the very best you can, in a moral and christian enviroment and yet they may still turn out to be angry and violent. Please choose your title with a little bit more thought. I am a mother and I did not breed a child, I gave birth to a child.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Where’s a big stick when thou needest and deserveth one?

SHAKESPEARE

By Moderate Republican

June 26, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

What happened to our shared Republican views on “personal responsiblity”?

Are we to assume that these nitwits in Miami bear no responsiblity for their actions and thus it is all the fault of our society?.

As a moderate Republican (not many of us around down here) I foolishly thought that this blog might actually provide some thoughtful assessment or insight into the issues. Boy was I wrong. Sigh.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Ann is right. Bunker Hill was actually Breed’s Hill. We breed horses and they in turn give birth to Ann Coulter. Nice job, Ann. (no relation)

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Big Sphere aka Big Square,

Are your twisted suggestions the ideas for Democrats? Take every word that doesn’t spell liberal and twist it into hate squeals? Keep trying, Biggie. You’ll have a decent idea one of these days.

MBA in ATL.

Th equation Concept of Cost Benefit Analysis in this war should equal FREEDOM. Your figures seem to be off again.

By RFSOsInRevolt

June 26, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

Governments throughout this country are actively and effectively creating and encouraging “home grown” terrorists by their increasingly worthless, unfair, illegal, and immoral attacks against people who are Registered “SEX OFFENDERS!!!!” and their families. That may p** you off or you think it’s worth it or you think it’s no big deal, but I promise you that it is real and it is a big deal. I’ve talked to literally thousands of Registrants over the past decade and I see this more and more clearly and deeply.

An analogy about what the government is doing is that these Registrants did something wrong (most of them anyway) and the government punished them. But now these people are not doing anything wrong, they are living just like everyone else, and the government has backed them into cages and is repeatedly poking them with sticks for no reason. Many of these people (in Georgia, it’s not “many”, it’s “most”) fully and successfully repaid their debts to society years ago, over a decade in some cases.

Currently, there are well over 1 million people in this country who are actively being disenfranchised in this manner. This includes many, many children who are being taught that the United States is not exactly the moral standard of the world. They are also being taught that they should not trust law enforcement or any part of government. They are being taught that their politicians are just a different type of criminal.

It would not surprise me in the slightest to see the next Timothy McVeigh or World Trade Center attacker come from the Registered ranks. They are becoming that anti-American. I know some burn the American flag today. I hear more and more of these people contemplating killing people. I have heard many say they’ve considered suicide but they plan to take a bunch of people with them. Just and only because the government will not leave them alone after they’ve repaid their debt to society.

As for me personally, I just don’t care. I don’t care what happens to this country and certainly not to Georgia. I stopped worrying about or helping people about 6 years ago. Haven’t given a dime to charity since then. I will help no one with anything. I pray the illegals take over Georgia and I am doing what I can to help them. Once the United States starts its financially implosion, I’m just going to leave. There are plenty of decent places on Earth. Good luck to you though. I’m sure the religious hypocrites are going to keep right on self-righteously harassing the great unwashed Registrants. Just like Jesus would do.

By Harold

June 26, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Harold says there is no freedom in religion, so giving up “Freedom of Relgion” means only “Giving up Being Controlled By Choice.”

Freedom of religion is not an actual freedom.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

Dear Moderate Republican. Your premise is in your conclusion. Your question pretends that the issue is “Society is to blame for not only the terrorists, but also their lack of ‘taking responsibility”

You also construct a parallel premise that there’s a default to societal blame if one doesn’t claim personal responsibility.

Worse, you assume a consensus of the GOP platform’s stance on “personal responsibility”.

The reason you find this blog uninformative is because your mind is structured to think in terms of circular logic.

Seems a shame.

By getalife

June 26, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

Van,

I am glad you brought Mr. Murtha up.

Please read this link and see who voted for the draft and what he said

I think it is time to reintroduce this bill to another vote.

Put up or shut up.

By NS

June 26, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

The point is that wannabe terrorists can rationalize themselves as tomorrow’s heroes, no matter the death or destruction they cause. Very dangerous.

Kind of like the rationalizations President Bush and his cabinent are currently making concerning the war in Iraq?

Over 2500 of our troops killed. Tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have been killed. Death and destruction.

And how do those supporting the war gloss over (or, in the case of the Iraqi death toll, completely ignore) these numbers? Why, we’ve rationalized everything out. Our original reason for going to war (WMDs) turned out to be hogwash. So Mr. Bush’s strategists instead thought of another angle and championed Mr. Bush as a hero who was bringing democracy to Iraq.

Yes, we’ve come up with dozens of hero-like rationalizations concerning Iraq, the biggest of which is that we’re making the world safer. Well, we aren’t, say the experts (see: not Fox News). At least we’ve given freedom to the Iraqi people then, right? If freedom equates to a modern-day civil war, well, yes, we’ve given them that.

I agree with you, Mr. Wooten. Being a legend in your own mind and doing whatever is necessary to justify the means is a very dangerous thing.

By concerned citizen

June 26, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

I guess we should all just shut up and agree with everything our government does, just so we can be as patriotic as Mr. Wooten. I’m sorry, but that’s what happened in Germany after WWI. People looked the other way while Hitler and his Nazi thugs made their moves. I’m not an apologist for my government. I’ll support them when they do the right thing, but I refuse to give them a rubber stamp to do as they please, just so I can fit in with Wooten’s definition of a patriotic American. I bet Wooten’s rhetoric is what it sounded like in the colonies back in the 1770’s among those who supported the King. “Oh no, don’t criticize the King.” How can we expect our children to learn right and wrong, if all we ever do is give a pass to our government when they invade a country unprovoked and lie to us about the reasons why and the evidence supporting the reasons? But I guess if two men aren’t allowed to marry and those darn flag burners are thwarted, I should just drink the Kool-Aid and put my “W” sticker on my SUV. You rightwingers make me sick.

By Big Sphere

June 26, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen,

It’s not fair to bring up Nazis when talking about modern fascists. Nazis are SOOOOO last century! I think Fidel Castro gives us a much better example of the kind of control that VAN and DUSTY are advocating the government take over education, media, entertainment, and the right to vocalize one’s opinion. Don’t you think, Mister Wooten? Castron is still in control after all these years! The school chidren in Cuba think their leader is infallible. If only we had that kind of dedication here!

By justmeagain

June 26, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this

Let’s not forget the word “alleged” when you refer to these boys in Miami. We invaded another country and are loosing thousands of young solders to defend our country’s values which believe “a person is innocent until proven guilty”. Or has everyone forgotten that? Maybe we just can’t keep it straight. After all our president and the US Intelligence lead us to believe that we had bombs pointed right at us. But now it’s turned into a democracy issue. That is, as long as we agree with the democracy.

Was it the US Intelligence that found these boys Miami? We all know what kind of mess the US Intelligence has gotten us into so far! I for one am very skeptical.

By Moderate Republican

June 26, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

@ Retroactive Flashback:

I’m sorry, did you say something?

By justmeagain

June 26, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

Big Sphere.

Don’t kid yourself. Nazi’s exist in the United States today. And it was a very fair comparison. When I see these little boy soldiers on TV being interviewed about why they are at war, and they have no answer but “my commander & chief said it’s the right thing to do” I think – so this is the way Hitler got started.

By MClark

June 26, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

It’s easy to feel disenfranchised in America. Does this excuse these home-grown terrorists? No. Does it help explain their actions? Perhaps. It’s hard not to miss the bombardment of negativity and vitriol that spews forth from the mouths of commentators and media personalities. Am I agreeing with JW? No, absolutely not. Why? Because, he’s filtering this problem and his reaction to it only through the lens of his partisan values. The truth lies elsewhere.

The truth is that this great Country is divided and into three camps. The extreme right, who spew hate, call names, slander, misuse the name of God for political gain, lie, and fiddle while they sell our Country piece by piece to the Chinese. Then there is the extreme left, who whine, slander, refuse to put forth cogent arguments, point fingers of blame without looking within, lie, and continue to exist without a backbone.

If you fall anywhere to the left of “the Right” you are accused of being somehow less than American. Any dissent allows the so-called conservatives to declare open season on you, regardless of the true depth of your patriotism or any evidence thereof based on service to your Country.

On the other hand, if you fall anywhere to the right of “the Left” and you are considered something less than intelligent. You are accused of “drinking the kool-aid”, pandering, and by inaction allowing this administration to take us straight to hell.

Find yourself to the right of the left and the left of the right and both sides attack you for being a “fence sitter”. Of somehow lacking any courage of conviction or critical decision making ability because you refuse to join “their team.”

But if you notice, I said the Country was divided into three camps. Who is the third? The third is where I personally believe that most Americans reside: firmly in the middle; the land of the true Moderate. These are people who are: • fed up with abuses of Government spending but still see the need for a social safety net. • who ardently believe that judges should not legislate but who are unwilling to label a judge an activist just because the decision went the other way. • who believe that abortion is a tragedy but that it is not the most pressing issue of the day and believe that somewhere, somehow there must be a compromise with which we can all live. • who believe that war is a necessity of a free society, but at the same time see that Government transparency and openness is essential in its deliberation and most important in its conduct.

People who are tired of gay marriage debates, flag burning amendments, contrived cries of racism, and portrayals of the only President we’ve got, like him or not, as an idiot. These issues are seen by the group in the middle for exactly what they are: straw men. Pretty baubles to distract Americans and “buy” votes while real issues are ignored and we sink further and further.

I know tons of Republicans and conservatives. None of them are ignorant, redneck, or less intelligent than average. I know a ton of Democrats and liberals. None of them are elite, less than patriotic, or believe that America is the root of all evil. So how is it that when I read these posts I get the impression that all the right is ignorant and all of the left is evil? It’s because the vast middle has allowed political debate to be co-opted by extremists on both sides. Name-calling and finger-pointing has replaced true political debate. The people demonizing everyone who does not think just like them are not true Republicans or Democrats. It’s time we stood up and took back our parties. Aren’t Republicans tired yet of false conservatives selling out the history of the party. Aren’t Democrats tired yet of extreme liberals placing them in such an indefensible position and selling out their party as well?

It’s time to wake up, compromise, and vote for good men and women, the best candidates, not people with the correct little letter after their name. Its time to place the extremes back on the fringes where they belong.

By Van

June 26, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

Big Sphere

Boy are you off base.

Conservatives do not feel the Government has any right to be involved in Education, the Media or Entertainment.

Regarding National Socialism, Nazi’s or Fascism, Who is it advocating full control of everything, the left. Who is advocating a universal health care, the left. Who wants schools to teach only what the Feds say, the left. The lefties want the Feds to control it all, no individual rights, just collective rights.

You don’t like, No Child Left Behind? That is a bill submitted by Ted Kennedy, a far leftie.

Conservatives believe in a small federal government, not what we have now.

By Amelia

June 26, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

Excellent MClark. Very well said. Get rid of the zealots and extremists and maybe this country can go in a positive direction.

By Janine

June 26, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

What a cogent analysis, MCLARK…TAKE HEED, MR. WOOTEN…TAKE HEED AND LEAD THE WAY!!

By John Locke

June 26, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

There’s nothing sensical about Jim’s rants, though it is admittedly all too common. He recites an already tired commentary used by many other conservatives to hinder all possiblity at self-examination, understanding, and growth. Mr. Wooton, critics are not the problem. Our leaders are not infallable. Telling your country’s citizens to place blind trust in the government, and encouraging jingoistic approval is unamerican. “Liberal” is not an insult especially when uttered by a neoconservative. To borrow from one of your heroes, we will wear it as a badge of honor.

By Big Sphere

June 26, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

Don’t kid yourself. Nazi’s exist in the United States today.

Justmeagain, Um…. I was being sarcastic, and you’re right. I met some Nazis in Kansas. Creeeeeeeepy! I was outta there quick!

Van, I DO support a smaller federal government… like the ONE WE USED TO HAVE! One that needs warrants to do wiretaps and track bank records, and one that honors the right of due process for the accused, one that stays out of personal, private decisions such as whom to marry or whether to abort, one that has checks and balances, wherein the Legislative branch makes laws and oversees the other branches as opposed to simply rubber-stamping the administration’s every move to violate the law and Bill of Rights and then demanding the arrest of (the one or two) reporters who tell the truth. I thought your problem was with dissent. If not, what IS your problem, Dude? Oh, never mind, that’s right. You hate everybody.

By R@

June 26, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

MClark - I like your style and thanks for trying to keep this blog civil. I have to disagree with your statement: “It’s because the vast middle has allowed political debate to be co-opted by extremists on both sides. Name-calling and finger-pointing has replaced true political debate.”

I don’t believe the middle has allowed anything to happen. I believe they know very well that the extreme ends of both right and left do not represent middle America. Yes, “name-calling and finger-pointing” has replaced political debate but it is not middle America’s fault. It is the fault of people who profess to be civil servants when they are actually professional political hacks who love to hear themselves talk and yap. It is the media that continuosly fails to write or talk about the issues - in depth. I honestly don’t believe they have the intelligence to do so and they think middle America is stupid and can’t comprehend the depth of big issues - they are dead wrong.

Middle America is not stupid. They know the yappers are extremists and I believe most of what these career politicians and media outlets yak about goes in one ear and out the other. Middle America is seeking the truth everyday - they are not as dumb as these yakkers think they are.

And one day, when we decide to term limit all federally elected positions (Senators, Representatives, Judges - as we do the President [for reasons!]), honest and open debate will return - but not until then. When the average middle American can serve their country as a civil servant, the voice of middle America will return to the political scene. I hope I live to see that day.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

@ Moderate Republican:

No, kind sir.

By MClark

June 26, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

R@

I don’t disagree with you. To say “allowed” seems to imply that the middle tacitly endorsed this division. I don’t believe that we did.

I do believe that it is time we stood up and demanded better, from our leaders and from our media. Perhaps a utopian concept, but long over-due in my opinion.

By R@

June 26, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

MClark - agree - past time. Howeverm as long as we allow a system that makes it almost impossible for the average Joe to serve his/her country, the career politicians will stay in office - they have erected way too many barriers that make if very difficult for others to serve. Take ballot access laws for example. With fresh and new people will come fresh and new ideas and dialogue. It really isn’t brain surgery. We put term limits on the President for good reason. We should do the same with the other federal positions. It is a very simple solution.

By Janine

June 26, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Well R@ and MClark… What do you thing of the RENO movement….? Meaning RE-ELECT NO ONE !!!!!!

By just passing through

June 26, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this

@MClark

Thanks for posting, that’s the most coherent thing I’ve read on this blog today and I applaud you for standing up to say it.

I have to 100% agree that those Americans who are tired of the name-calling, do-nothing public servants must take a stand and hold their feet to the fire. Vote the “do-nothings” out!

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

Dear friends in the middle, you affirm that those of us who oppose you are name-callers and finger pointers. Warning, I am about call names and point fingers.

I believe I have a right to be left alone. You use your “moderate” theory of government to compel me to pay for the spending you deem “necessary.” If I disagree, you don’t care - you put me in jail, and use the courts to expropriate my property. Your spending can be anything you wish it to be, you simply call it a “safety net,” and thus justify your theft.

I oppose your beliefs with every ounce of my being, and when I complain loudly about your actions, you justify your actions by calling me a name-caller and finger pointer. Rest assured, I will continue to do so until your reform your ways.

By Woodie

June 26, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

One huge misnomer in you statement here. The radicals are not leftist, but extreme right-wing radicals. Their misguided loyalty to tyrannical governments and forcing their social opinions on people are right-wing agenda’s. Their desire to subjugate people to their will, like right-to-life proponents who bomb clinics, or enforcing christian prayer on non-christian school children are right-wing ideas. Remember, the left-wing factions are peace-keepers who prefer diplomacy to bombs. If you are a true Christian, you do not promote wars except as a last resort, and you don’t force your religion on others.

These radical right-wing extremists have a severely distorted sense of God’s will. Definitely in direct opposition to left-wing ideals.

By Jeff

June 26, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

While I am IN NO WAY proposing the method used, ya gotta like what Clancy let happen in Debt of Honor/ Executive Orders. At the end of Debt of Honor, a 9/11 style attack happens to Capitol Hill…. during the State of the Union address. Clancy’s main character Jack Ryan had just been sworn in as Vice President after taking the job only as a way out of government service forever. When everybody gets killed, Ryan makes the plea for every day normal citizens to be elected to restock Capitol Hill, and his Cabinet is made of people who abhor politicians but honestly want to help their country… seems to work decentlyw ell, at least in fiction…

By Granny

June 26, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

Read your nursery rhymes. Yes, there WAS an apple given to Snow White, delivered incognito by the wicked witch herself. Just goes to show that people don’t comprehend what they read, and don’t pay attention to the message within.

By Janine

June 26, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

Uh-Oh…here comes the God’s on our side argument…Nothing good ever comes from that!

By Deb

June 26, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this

@ MClark - your post was a breath of fresh air!

R@ - liked your response, too! I think a majority of Americans fall into the middle group.

Time for a new political party that can represent the group in the middle.

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Good Woodie, the opposite of “peace” is not “war,” it is “freedom.” There are always those out there who would take our freedom; we always have the choice then of peace, through appeasement, or to oppose.

The radicals are those who abolish freedom (whether Communists, National Socialists, or common dictators like the nut in charge of Venezuela now) and most often find their aid and comfort on the left.

By Van

June 26, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this

Big Sphere

Where did I say I hate anyone, it is the left that uses that concept. The left says the conservatives hate everyone, but I have never seen that from the right, just the socialist lefties, you know the ones that think the failed reveolutionary, mass murderer, Che, is a great roll model.

By Janine

June 26, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

jmblaw….History demonstrates that In every country in every religion the terrorists…political, religious, and other are located on the far right of whatever the issue is…

By GodHatesTrash

June 26, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

Libertarian “philosophy” is about 10 miles wide and 1/2” deep - hence it’s attractiveness to so many redneck morons, who love one-size-fits-all ideologies.

By Lyrazel

June 26, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

Excuse me please Mr. Wooten but when has commentary on news NOT been part of the entertainment business in America? You work for the media—in an entertainment faculty—as a columnist… Cripe this is a BLOG…its entertainment! You are about as far from Ed Murrow in the profession of journalism as one can get! You continue making declarations detaching yourself from the evil liberal media…yet your paycheck comes from that very source. I am bored of entertainment columnists blaming media/news/entertainment for the corruption of Americans yet banking their careers in the industry.

For example: instead of mentioning the distinguished military career of Congressman John Murtha you lambast him like some pinko-commie the last generation was afflicted with. Perhaps the man who had a military career understands more about military life and its hardships than a civilian in charge who freely sends troops to be deployed 3-4 times without blinking. Because he is a Democrat you just lambast his career and his service in one sentence! Why? Just to lather up the emotions of your readers!

Perhaps the problem with how quickly young people turn to organizations like al-Qaida is fueled by how easily pundits spew hatred for nothing but self-promotion. Dont be surprised if its you and your ilk who are actually propelling young people to join hate groups.

Your odious lack of respect toward Americans who have and still are serving this country is really appalling.

By Jim Wooten

June 26, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

I agree with Deb, Amelia, Janine and just passing through on the quality of the post by MClark. Terrific job stating your point passionately and intelligently. There’s much that you describe as the middle that conservatives for sure can agree with. Thanks for participating.

By Van

June 26, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

Janine, Ignorant.

Hitler was a far left ruler, a socialist. Stalin was a far left, a socialist. Robert Mugabe, believes only he has the answer, a leftist, a socialists.

Now where is it that the freedom loving countries, are the terrorist from? Iran? Saudi Arabia? Afganistan? Chechnya? Oh, wait a minute, I see, America, Canada, Spain or England are the terrorist Countries.

Ignorant, plain ignorant.

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

This isn’t a blog, It is a maze.

No matter what you post, somebody says you said SOMETHING totally different.

May I ask AGAIN: What plan do sensible Democrats have when the next big election comes again?

Not one liberal/Democrat and middle-of-the- roaders want to commit themselves. All I hear is something like: dump this one and get something different. FINE! But what and how??? Give us your BETTER plan and we will listen.

By GW

June 26, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

Do you have to be dumber than a box of rocks to be a right winger? After reading some of the stuff from Van,jbmlaw, and Woodie, it must be a requirement. With guys like these around you know things will continue to head downhill faster than the speed of light.

By MClark

June 26, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

You have a right to oppose what I stand for but what right do you have to call me a thief? I have read many, many posts by you and know you don’t lack for intelligence. But you object to having it pointed out that name-calling is part of your way of speaking, and in that same post toss around that I am a thief?

My indictment is not just leveled at you, but at all who act the way you do, regardless of their political leanings.

Thank you for proving my point.

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

GW, I assume you are one who would imprison me for disagreeing with you on whether you should be able to spend my money on your pet projects.

By Van

June 26, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

Dusty ,

Give the left a break, they haven’t had a good idea in quite a while, and the moderated, just don’t have any convictions. Sometimes they think this way, sometimes that way, except Kerry, he thinks both ways.

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

MClark, I assume you are one who would imprison me for disagreeing with you on whether you should be able to spend my money on your pet projects.

By YourFunny

June 26, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

Van you jackass! Hitler was a fascist. Fascism=right wing. Another whacked out revisionist historian. Every time you open your mouth Van, you get dumber.

By GW

June 26, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, we are probably subsidizing YOU with an earned income credit. Usually those that throw up money don’t have any to begin with. However, if you do, it just proves that money can’t buy a brain.

By Janine

June 26, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

ANd Van.. Muslim terrorists ..suicide bombers, beheaders,..are labeled right wing extremists eve by their more moderate brothers

By MClark

June 26, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

Then your assumption would be wrong. And you know what they say about assuming.

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this

YourFunny, Van got it right. The National Socialists were not right-wing. They burned churches.

Consider adding a dimension to your thinking, because right-wing/left-wing does not cover all dimensions.

Traditional conservatives believe it appropriate to control behavior, but improper to expropriate wealth for government-run “safety nets.”

Traditional leftists believe it appropriate to expropriate wealth for government-run “safety nets”, but inappropriate to control behavior.

“Populists” believe the public is too stupid to manage their own money or behavior, and thus the superior minds in government must do both.

And that leaves just us libertarians (or as GodHatesTrash) describes us, the people whose philosophy is a mile wide and an inch deep. We believe government employees are not competent to manage either our money or or behavior. (Makes you wonder why GodHatesTrash wants them to manage both of his?)

By YourFunny

June 26, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

Van and jbmlaw proove that the dumbing down of America is in high gear.

By seeing through the smoke screen

June 26, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

just call this what it really is — a smoke screen to hide the ineffectiveness of this adminstration and this Congress.

At this rate, we will all need gas masks just to find a “leader” in this country. The only reason you are hearing about this now or the “financial leak” is to deflect the voters from the real issue: nothing is getting done in this Congress or by this administration.

By Brett "the hitman" Hart

June 26, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

so im suppose to believe because i hear something is bad i will think its bad. blow me on that one. i love the movie pooty tang. people have been telling me is horrible for years but i still love it. you either buy into the idea that america is the best or you dont. kill them and move on to the next batch of retards. like the us or hate it who cares but blowing up buildings because of it is retarded. if allah wants you to do it then you and him can really kiss my big white arse.

By Janine

June 26, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

JMBLAW…isn’t that what freedom is..? Being allowed to manage/control your own money and your own behavior….i.e.THE RIGHT TO BE WRONG???

By YourFunny

June 26, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

You need help jbmlaw. Maybe the Wizard of Oz is available. He can fix you up with a brain.

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

YourFunny, do you want government employees managing your money for you? Do you want government employees managing your behavior? I realize I am dumbing you down by asking the questions, but you surely have already contemplated your answers when you thought through the matters so long ago. Please enlighten us.

By Van

June 26, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

Folks, a socialism is defined by Webster as

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.

Fascism is

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition 2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Both fascism and socialism show sever left wing tendencies.

Social regimentation sounds just like our leftie friends of today. Also, the left is the ones denouncing big business and want the government to rein in corporations.

Sorry, lefties, you guys are about a correct as Che was, and he was dead wrong. Next time, do a little research before you show your ignorance.

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Janine, I agreed with your post before you wrote it - an excellent post.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this

@@ jbmlaw: A preemptive ditto from a libertarian? Isn’t that like having Munchausen-by-proxy syndrom and being a christian scientist faith healer Ralph Reedite?

By viktor

June 26, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

Yo, retro, I agree! The far right is almost as bad as the far left. FYI: I don’t agree with the religious far right anymore than I agree with the secular far left. You’ll find me in the middle somewhere depending on the issue.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

But viktor, what if the guys on the right move over to the left? ANd then the guys on the left go to the right, would not then the middle become the lunatic fringe, making you the new target of a Luchovich cartoon about metro-terrorists?

By Janine

June 26, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

VAN….acknowledge that your definitions are correct….However, is your contention that our present brand of terrorists are NOt RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS?

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

dear brett the hitman hart: bare it

By Woodie

June 26, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

Dusty had a legit question. What do the Democrats have planned? Apparently that is the center of debate now, because the Republican’s do not, or have not had a plan since Bush took office. They didn’t plan Iraq. They didn’t plan to leave Iraq. They called Iraq “Operation Freedom” but no one has been freed from anything. They have no economic plan (except to further bloat the federal deficit). Consumer confidence is in the toilet along with the stock market. Global warming is burning up the planet. Most of the planet hates America with a passion. I think the question to ask is, how much damage can the Republican’s do before we get them out of office? Based on what I can tell, quite a lot!

By MClark

June 26, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this

Van,

Many things can be claimed and based upon opinion. If you hold a valid opinion then people are free to argue with you but should never resort to saying that you are categorically wrong. You may be wrong in their opinion but that’s it.

Facts, however, are different. No one is free to rewrite facts to suit their position and then call those rewritten opinions facts. And the fact is that socialism and fascism are polar opposites. You can’t accuse a group of being both.

Fascism is reactionary in nature and has really never fully fleshed out an exposition of what it means to be fascist. Fascism developed after WWI as a reaction to the extremes of Marxist Socialism and to an extent democratic egalitarianism.

The forefathers of fascism, (Georges Boulanger in France and Adolf Stöker and Karl Lueger in Germany and Austria) appealed to nationalist sentiments and prejudices, espoused anti-Semitism, and tried to portray themselves as champions of law, order, Christian morality, and the sanctity of private property. It was within this framework that the Fascist governments of the 40’s and 50’s began to form. These governments (most famously Mussolini in Italy and Franco in Spain) were basically totalitarian in nature and attempted to impose state control over all aspects of political, social, cultural, and economic life. Fascists have traditionally been considered right-wing in their views. Possibly the most famous of the bunch, Mussolini defined his own government as being a reaction to the ideals of socialism, liberalism, and democracy. In no way can that be considered leftist in leaning.

I’m not going to call anyone a nazi, a facist, or a socialist. I don’t think anyone should. But I do believe, however, that if you are going to use history to attempt to prove a point you should use it correctly.

By jbmlaw

June 26, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

MClark, I think you make a distinction without a difference. Fascists (named for the traditional Roman synbol, a bundle of wheat -fasces) and National Socialists were totalitarians, anti-Semitic to the core, and falsely affirmed an intention to enhance the lives of the ruled, but truthfully affirmed an intention to project power outside their borders. Communists were totalitarians, anti-Semitic to the core, and falsely affirmed an intention to enhance the lives of the ruled, but truthfully affirmed an intention to project power outside their borders.

Evil arises from Leviathan, not from the fact that Leviathan is merely suffering a bad hair day.

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this

Jeanine,

You spoke to Van but may I tell you that I don’t care how you classify a terrorist. A terrorist is a terrorist and I hope our government/military will get them before they run into my back yard.

Maybe you want to ask terrorists whether they lean right or left. I don’t. Right now our military are fighting them in Iraq and not getting much appreciation for it. Maybe thinking about the important things might be better than the research into trivialities. Support the troops. They are fighting for us.

By Real Dem

June 26, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this

Woodie, nicely put. Here is an illustration of Dusty and her “where are your plans” question. This is why I don’t care to answer it. The people who screech this mantra the loudest have no interest in a plan, only in tearing it apart the moment it’s revealed.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

If I hear one more dittoheadwound say that we are fighting the 911 terrorists in Iraq….that HAS to be the most ignorant read of the geo-political mission of our troops since today’s W remarks where he said, “Stay the course till victory, and victory means a free government that can sustain and defend itself”.

WHy is that ignorant? Because “a free government” has no meaning. “Sustain itself” has no meaning. “Defend itself” is so vague that why say it at all?

By viktor

June 26, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

Retro, an unlikely hypothetical. However, I’ll bite…I would then be displaced to the moderate fringe and all the wackos would evolve to the radical middle. Since I am a stark raving capitalist, I would more than likely be on the moderate left fringe in your backward, bizarro world. The thought of being associated with the left in any sense is very unsettling.

As far as working for Gore’s campaign, I don’t think I’d like the job. I tried being a far left blogger for a couple of days. It was too easy. Neo-con this, Bush lied about that, Cheney is a traitor, etc. A lot of hating and name-calling, not much thinking. I got bored after a couple of days. Besides, you have to believe that the war on terror is a cheap repub parlor trick and I couldn’t pull that one off with a straight face.

By Van

June 26, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

MClark,

I do agree with you about using history, but unforunatly the victor writes history. Using a solid base as a point of reference, Websters, negates the slant the victors may have put on history.

If you look at the Spanish civil war, who was who? were the Communist the left wing and the Fscist the right, or the other way around. They may have espoused a rhetoric claiming the conservative or liberal point of view, but when they attempt to confine individuals to certain behaviour, the true intent come through.

Both Hitler and Stalin were socialists, but different branches of the same tree.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

Speaking of stark raving capitalists, viktor, has your biz been slow this year? The first two quarters of ‘06 shows me down 40% from last year, (my best year ever). I dont pretend to know why it’s slow.

By viktor

June 26, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Spoken in Miami. How appropriate….

“American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to a crowd of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon.”

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-ctownhall25jun25,0,7119684.story

Thank God this boob can only draw a “crowd” of 200.

By Van

June 26, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Real Dem,

Good one, using a cartoon to make your point. That seems like you did a lot of research or it was the only one you understood.

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

Woodie,

Where were you when the lights went out? Republicans don’t have a plan. Now isn’t that a brilliant answer to my question about the unknown Democratic Plan. Way to go, Woodie.

We have recovered from 9/11 because we had good leadership. Now we get a memorial and no more attacks.

We are gaining freedom for Iraq in a hard fought war by our volunteer military. They are heroes and are much braver than some of our timid citizens at home.

We are recovering from a devasting hurricane which has caused unprecedented damage. But, with the unexpected problems that always come with a disaster, recovery is progressing.

We have given more to world wide disasters than any other country. If they hate us, they don’t mind asking for our help. And they knock themselves out trying to get here and be a US citizen.

And Woodie, you need to change your stock broker because I don’t have any investments going into the toilet. Maybe you didn’t have any to start with.

Don’t bother to say this Republican administration doesn’t have a plan. They stay on automatic plan and Congress gets to decide about the budget, the war(they voted for it) and other priorities.

Wake up, Woodie, and what was that Democratic plan again? And where is your leader who is invisible at the moment?

By Mclark

June 26, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Van,

I see your point. Labels such as right and left are confusing. It is possible to draw parallels between our modern conceptions of right and left and both socialists and fascists. But the philosophies themselves were in opposition to one another.

The fact that both were authoritarian in nature does not make them the same. The differences lie in how they sought to bring about their goals, not the goals themselves. These were distict political philosophies, one saw itself as progressive in nature and the other was admittedly reactionary in nature. It is intellectually dishonest to align them now and lump them together for use as projectiles in an argument.

By Janine

June 26, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

DUSTY….It is now acknowledged by our administration that we went into Iraq to overturn a totalitarian theocracy that our leaders THOUGHT were harboring terrorists and planning to use WMD’s. THeir present assertions are that even if there were no WMD’s, we did a good thing by getting rid of Sadaam…. Now…they say we are there to set up a democratic government….however, it will always be a theocracy….because the Iraquis want a theocracy…the civil war in Iraq today is between two religious factions….having nothing to do with democracy.

By Real Dem

June 26, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

Oh, I’m sorry Van. Yes, pictures are simple. I’m just a simple guy who believes in honest government. Here’s a picture of the Republican plan. How’s that going, by the way? Swell, I hope.

By GodHatesTrash

June 26, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

@ jbmlaw,

You’ve just described the GOP, not once, but twice.

Their base - the rednecks - make a fine (even more sheeplike than the Germans) volk - they are probably too much of a booboisie to make up a proletariat, so the fascist definition fits better. Their tolerance for Jews only extends to such time as half of them convert to KKKhristianity, and the other half die.

Power-mad trash that wants to rule the world - that’d be the redneck gummint of George Dumbya Bush.

By GodHatesTrash

June 26, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

I’m sending this joke to Foxworthy - you might be a redneck if you are a grown woman and people call you Dusty…

Hilarious!

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

If the radio station you listen to most of the time has been forced in the name of humanity to constantly rebroadcast public service warnings against racing the train to the crossing, then you might be a redstate dittoheadwound.

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

Jeanine,

You may be a history buff but you don’t read well. I mentioned FREEDOM for Iraq. Since they are forming their own government and writing their own constitution, it may turn out to be something we didn’t have in mind. But it will be their government, not ours.

By Van

June 26, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

Mclark,

The similarities were in how they treated the individual. In both the individual was removed and replaced by either nationalism or group control.

Either way, the individual lost its personal identity and freedom. It is this personal identity that those of us that consider the Constitution and its many amendments a glorious concept and plan for the future.

While we have strayed away from the original outline for government, we still retain the indiviual freedom and self responsibility that the founders desired. As I said earlier, if you want it bad enough, you can work hard enough to achieve it. Try that in Zimbabwe, Cuba or Columbia.

By MrLiberty

June 26, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

Well let’s see.

All of our political leaders are liars or in the case of our current executive branch occupants - war criminals.

Our rights to private property are being taken away daily. We are enslaved by both state and federal governments with a tax on our incomes. We have no rights when it comes to our bodies, what we will put in them or how we will take care of them. The republican and democratic parties have made virtually all opposition unable to compete, either through unconstitutional donation laws or ridiculous ballot access laws. Protesters are banned from every public place. Our president lies more than he tells the truth. Our media seem willing to take the government at its word rather than investigating.

All this, while we claim to have a constitution, bill of rights, and freedom. All this while we blow up innocent citizens all so that the imperial dreams of our leaders can be realized.

What sort of messages are we sending to the youth? Wake up clueless! You are part of the problem.

And before you think I am some bedwetting liberal I will have you know that I am a proud libertarian who knows the difference between window dressing and real liberty.

Sorry folks, the “we’re STILL the freest” just doesn’t cut it anymore.

By GodHatesTrash

June 26, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

@ Retro,

You know, maybe as a country we need to stop those PSAs about RR crossings. We need to look very seriously about our redneck overpopulation problem. Can the planet handle another 200,000,000 dumb as squash American rednecks?

I don’t think so!

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

GHT,

It may amaze you but nobody calls me Dusty. That’s because it isn’t my real name.

Do people call you GOD HATES TRASH?

By Van

June 26, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

Real Dem,

So many words, I am suprised you could understand it.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

War in Iraq is 40 months old. Interestingly, at this point in WW2, we were done with Germany and making the final push toward Japan, where they responded with the Divine Wind.(kamikaze). Difference? With the Iraqi War, the only wind is on the blogs.

By Linda

June 26, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

The “left” seems to detest this country so much……..why don’t they simply leave like Alec Baldwin promised to do if Bush was re-elected? PLEASE LEAVE, PLEASEEEEE. And, take the ACLU with you…These are the same people that would be blaming Bush now if there had been another terriorist attack because he did nothing! You can’t please them, no matter what you do, so just ignore them and pray that they will go away…perhaps they can relocate to Iraq and assist the insurgency since they are doing it here anyway! P.S. oh yeah, what IS THE democrats plan? for anything? I have never heard any plans from them ever….all talk and no action. At least when Bush says hes going to do something he does it, unlike Kerry and Hilarious….who change their mind every other day. What a joke party!!!

By GodHatesTrash

June 26, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

@ Dusty,

My many lady friends just call me God.

My real name is given out on a “need to know” basis, and you don’t know squat from squash.

By Retroactive Flashback

June 26, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

The Democrats dont have a leader. We need a leader. The dittoheadwounds can marshall a majority in elections by smart-mobbing precints over gay marriage, abortion, and orange alerts, and of course, crotchless jockstraps. (hey, how’d that get in there).

Dems need a leader.

By Dusty

June 26, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

MrLiberty,

Are you posting from Cuba? Sounds like you’ve been cutting sugar cane out in the hot sun too long.

Give Fidel the ol’ “raspberry” for me.

By Ugotta B. Kidding

June 26, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this

To GodHatesTrash: Obviously you have a severe case of Liberal opto-rectumitis. It’s caused when a nerve to your eyes gets crossed with a nerve to your a$$ thereby giving you a $hitty outlook on life. Helpful instructions for pulling your head our of your A$$. 1) Bend over 2) Grip head firmly 3) Pull hard. You’ll then have a more Conservative outlook. The way it should be…

By Bob

June 27, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this

What a bunch of wackos! You conservatives are trying to blame the media for wannabe-homemade terrorists? Why don’t you look at the real prolbem—it’s staring at you every time you look in the mirror. The real problem is that you right-wingers are on a fast pace to rewrite this country’s Constitution to join the powers of state and church and create a theistic autocracy. You are obviously too narrow-minded and self-centered to realize that many in this country and more than half of the rest of the world do not share your ideoligical beliefs and do appreciate them being imposed. The fact that a large number of people in this world consider Bush the greatest threat to world peace should open your eyes. Instead, you would fault the media for reporting facts about this administration’s failure’s and lies.The media is exercising rights provided under the Constitution. These rights were carefully worded, and their intent is to ensure checks and balances exist to protect the beliefs and freedom of all law-abiding citizens. Its obvious that the history of this nation is lost to you. This country was founded by those fleeing autocracy and religious persectution. You right-wingers should mind your own business and feel free to live your lives based on your beliefs. But pleae don’t impose your beliefs and values on others and expect them to be happy about it. If this administration was truly trying to secure this country, the effort would have started within our own borders and expanded as necessary. And telling lies would not have been necessary to justify what is so obviously a poorly planned, misguided war.

By Kym

June 27, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

I would love to know why Mr. Wooten deemed it to lump Malcolm X in as a “homegrown terrorist.” Actually I dont think Black America deems him a hero. They revere him as a man who stood up for his principals and beliefs. Is that not what any man would do? When Malcolm X spoke of any means necessary, was it not already a violent nation that looked nightly at “police officers” spraying children, women and peaceful protestors with water? Surely Mr. Wooten and others dont’t think the “Strange Fruit” Billie Holiday sung about were oranges. No the society that Malcolm X so vehemently opposed was one that was filled daily with violence against innocence people. Hmmm maybe Mr. Wooten thinks Medgar Evers and other civil rights workers shot themselves.

By oh hell yeah

June 27, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Trash-your richest uncle called-wants you to help move his house. This calls for a beer! We have a bunch of Black men that want to take down America and you idiots are screaming racism! You know why Jackson and Sharpton are not marching? Because these imbeciles were probably gonna blow their asses up too! DC was brought dwon by a Black Mayor, NY was brought down by Dinkins-a Black Mayor and now Atlanta. Look at the Council-made up of Blacks-wonder how many pay raises they gave themselves? Police and Fire? 3%! Hell they deserve twice that! And your Cynthia Mc Criminal? If she ever slapped my-I’d stun her a*. Self Defense! How many on the Grand Jury in DC have an IQ above a Blueberry? The same as those in LA that thought OJ was night golfing while a mystery Colombian drug dealer was killing Goldman and Brown. Drug Dealers usually attack one on one but-the 12 jackasses in LA only saw a celebrity black man. And under the rules of today it seems, minorities go free. Hmmm-10K in cash, passport, fleeing to Mexico-maybe it was a mexican drug lord that OJ was trailing. And Bill wan’t guilty of accepting illegal money-he just didn’t report all the winnings from his gambling crusades with the home wrecker he was with. Is this what life is like in Africa?