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The political Hulk

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By AJC/DNC Management

June 16, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

Aahh, yes, finally an anti discrimination law that the libs don’t like:

{{{{>>>Bush<<< seeks more rights for disabled- New proposal would expand landmark access law, but >>>>businesses fear more cost, red tape.<<<<-Urinal/PMS}}}}

So now the Urinal is concerned about the costs and red tape of regulation, oh, O.K, I get it.

Let’s have Bushie call for America’s defeat in Iraq, we’ll win the war for sure and in short order.

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{{{{Mr. Maliki refused. He assured his Iranian hosts that Iraq would not be a launching pad for an American attack on Iran. But he pointedly told a press briefing that negotiations on the strategic partnership would continue. He repeated that commitment on Friday, even after warning that the talks had “reached a dead end.” In effect, the Iraqi prime minister was saying that his country does not want to become an Iranian satellite but an independent Arab state that would look to the United States to ensure its security.}}}}

{{{{In fact, much of the controversy over the negotiations is based on misinformation, some of it spread by Iran’s proxies in Iraq.}}}}

Propaganda from Iran, picked up and rebroadcast by the pinko media, including our very own Urinal.

Who’s side are they on?

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{{{{Next month, the Saudis will be pumping an extra half-a-million barrels of oil a day compared to last month, bringing total Saudi production to 9.7 million barrels a day, their highest ever level. But the world’s biggest oil exporters are coupling the increase with an appeal to western Europe to cut fuel taxes to lower the price of petrol to consumers.}}}}

Pump more oil? Cut taxes? Why, how will this help lower the prices, duh?

By IN THE NEWS

June 16, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

Who’s to blame for the biggest financial catastrophe of our time? There are plenty of culprits, but one candidate for lead perp is former Sen. Phil Gramm. Eight years ago, as part of a decades-long anti-regulatory crusade, Gramm pulled a sly legislative maneuver that greased the way to the multibillion-dollar subprime meltdown. Yet has Gramm been banished from the corridors of power? Reviled as the villain who bankrupted Middle America? Hardly. Now a well-paid executive at a Swiss bank, Gramm cochairs Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign and advises the Republican candidate on economic matters. He’s been mentioned as a possible Treasury secretary should McCain win. That’s right: A guy who helped screw up the global financial system could end up in charge of US economic policy. Talk about a market failure……… as chairman of the Senate banking committee, he routinely turned down Securities and Exchange Commission chairman Arthur Levitt’s requests for more money to police Wall Street; during this period, the sec’s workload shot up 80 percent, but its staff grew only 20 percent. Gramm also opposed an sec rule that would have prohibited accounting firms from getting too close to the companies they audited—at one point, according to Levitt’s memoir, he warned the sec chairman that if the commission adopted the rule, its funding would be cut. And in 1999, Gramm pushed through a historic banking deregulation bill that decimated Depression-era firewalls between commercial banks, investment banks, insurance companies, and securities firms—setting off a wave of merger mania. Gramm slipped in a 262-page measure called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. Written with the help of financial industry lobbyists and cosponsored by Senator Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), the chairman of the agriculture committee, the measure had been considered dead—even by Gramm. Few lawmakers had either the opportunity or inclination to read the version of the bill Gramm inserted…………the legislation contained a provision—lobbied for by Enron, a generous contributor to Gramm—that exempted energy trading from regulatory oversight, allowing Enron to run rampant, wreck the California electricity market, and cost consumers billions before it collapsed. (For Gramm, Enron was a family affair. Eight years earlier, his wife, Wendy Gram

By IN THE NEWS

June 16, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

Something else to remember about Phil Gramm: The Enron Loophole…….Sen. John McCain says he opposes the $307 billion farm bill because it would dole out wasteful subsidies, but his chief economic adviser Phil Gramm also wants to stop its proposed regulation of energy futures trading, a market that was famously abused when Enron Corp. manipulated California’s electricity prices in 2001……Clearing the way for that California price gouging, Gramm, as a powerful Texas senator in 2000, slipped an Enron-backed provision into the Commodities Futures Modernization Act that exempted from regulation energy trading on electronic platforms. Then, over the next year, Enron – with Gramm’s wife Wendy serving on its board of directors – worked to create false electricity shortages in California, bilking consumers out of an estimated $40 billion…..In 2000, with the Republicans in charge of Congress and Gramm chairing the Senate Banking Committee, the exemption on electronic trading was approved without a Senate hearing……. Internal Enron documents, which were released in 2002, revealed that the Houston-based company helped write the legislation, which was signed into law by President Bill Clinton in December 2000…..Yet Gramm’s influence over McCain’s economic agenda – and the checkered political-business history of Gramm and his wife Wendy – have largely escaped media scrutiny.

PHIL GRAMM -

YEP, I WANT THIS BUTTHEAD CREATING U.S. ECONOMIC POLICY!

By reebok

June 16, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Good cartoon, ML…the sight of the Chimperor smiling his little frat-boy smirk enrages me also.

By Goldie

June 16, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

Funny ‘toon, Lucko — the Hulk in all of us will subside in November!

By Paul

June 16, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:07

Re: Gramm - watch who the candidates pick as advisors. This pick shouldn’t give anyone a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Re oil: This should be a fine example of a source you despise but a point you love. See what happens when you consider the message, not the messenger?

Fox News Sunday - Chris Wallace - interviewing Sens Hutchison (R-Tex) and Dorgan (D-ND). They were fingerpointing over energy legislation. Wallace proposed separating legislating limiting oil speculation and getting an agreement on just that issue. Dorgan said yes. Hutchison ducked the question. Wallace asked it again (I believe some other websites call this “badgering the guests”) and she took the “free market mantra” approach with this response:

“WALLACE: Senator Hutchison, how big a problem is oil speculation? And maybe we can work out a deal right here in this studio. Are Republicans willing to agree with Democrats, separate out and go after the oil speculators?

HUTCHISON: Well, let me say that I think all of us would agree that we need transparency. We need to understand this.

But the way that we can stop the speculation is to show that we are going to do what we can, using our own natural resources and our own creativity, to increase the supply of oil and gas and renewables in our country.

And all of the Democratic proposals don’t produce one ounce of a barrel of oil.

WALLACE: But to answer my direct question, would you agree to — legislation on oil speculation, separating it out.

HUTCHISON: Well, I think if you are talking about a cartel that speculates and fixes the prices, that is absolutely something that Republicans and Democrats would agree on.”

But if you’re talking about people going into the market of their own free will, not controlling anything, then it is a market issue. And I think transparency would be a good add, and I would work with Senator Dorgan on that.

I think we need to look at the whole issue and understand it. But if we bring up supply, we will bring down the price.”

So if you don’t have hedge funds, institutional investors and other megarich players as a cartel, but each pumping in billions of their own money to speculate, it’s okay.

Sen Hutchison just lost her chance as McCain’s VP choice.

Thank heavens.

Here’s the source:

Link:

By Paul

June 16, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

ITN

Here’s the source:

Link: [Oil Speculation Interview]*(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,367192,00.html)

Re: Cindy McCain: I’m with you - I’m happy that a kid can benefit from the hard work of their parent.

The other “charges” - so Sen McCain doesn’t buckle under to a bunch of lobbyists, even comprised of people he knew, so we could move on with our relations with VietNam and not keep it stuck, and have a vocal group control an aspect of our foreign policy, like the Cuban community in Miami, and it’s a bad thing. Of course it is - he’s a Republican.

The rest - looks like the Left has officially taken the Conspiracy Theory title from the Right. When facts aren’t available, innuendo and “uh, connect the dots” is okay.

“Although Cindy isn’t a direct beneficiary of the deal, you have to wonder how much influence she and her company had”

“The coincidences are just too much to ignore.”

But as far as how much class these sites have (does one really need to wonder?), well, they’re the ones who labeled themself!

“Obama has too much class to bring this up. Fortunately, we don’t.”

Obama: new way. Some Supporters: old way. How do you mix oil and water? One keeps the engine going. The other destroys it.

By Paul

June 16, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

ITN

arrrgh….

Link: {Speculation](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,367192,00.html)

off in search of more coffee -

By AJC/DNC Management

June 16, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

The sheer idiocy of not drilling for our own oil:

{{{{Corn prices would inevitably spike amid this supply shock (flooding in Iowa,) but that spike is far higher this time because prices are already higher than they should be due to ethanol subsidies and especially the Federal Reserve’s inflationary monetary policy. Corn was only $4 a bushel as recently as last August, but by April had hit $6. You can’t blame that on the weather.}}}}

You can thank your local environmental terrorist for this latest disaster.

By Soothsayer

June 16, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

[WASHINGTON - Opening an Alaska wildlife refuge to oil development would only slightly reduce America’s dependence on imports and would lower oil prices by less than 50 cents a barrel, according to an analysis released Tuesday by the Energy Department.

The report, issued by the Energy Information Administration, or EIA, said that if Congress gave the go-ahead to pump oil from Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, the crude could begin flowing by 2013 and reach a peak of 876,000 barrels a day by 2025.

But even at peak production, the EIA analysis said, the United States would still have to import two-thirds of its oil, as opposed to an expected 70 percent if the refuge’s oil remained off the market.](http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4542853/)

By Midori

June 16, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

Soothsayer,

regardless, the idiot still won’t get it.

By Steven Daedalus

June 16, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Andi’s down, once again he is being pummeled by facts, oh no another blow to head(of course he didn’t feel that)looks like he’s down for the count, one,two, three…….. Its over!

By Soothsayer

June 16, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

A collection of videos and video links regarding the turning of algae into oil, hydrogen, ethanol and other useful fuels.

If you have time, please watch the SEVENTH video from the top. Here is a man who has developed an elegantly simple solution to all of the problems related to algae culture—contamination, low light penetration, etc.

By M. R. Biggins

June 16, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

After living through Bush for seven years, I can see why so many third world countries have revolutions. Of course Bush/Cheney is as revolting as they come.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 16, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

So what is he afraid of, debating an “old” man?:

{{{{Plus, Obama’s campaign made sure to counter McCain’s challenge with a watered-down offer of their own (basically, one town meeting – on July 4! – one summer debate on foreign policy, and three debates in the fall). It’s not much, and McCain promptly rejected it. But it allows Obama to claim that he made an offer of his own, no matter how much of a non-starter it was.}}}}

By Jesus

June 16, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Dusty

June 16, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Soo…Bush is not running for re-election but the “hulk” is enraged at the sight of the President of the USA who has led up through terrorist attacks, war, hurricanes and kept us free and safe. Yeah, that’s something to get angry about all right.

I don’t believe the “Hulk”was ever noted for his “brains”. I guess that is why Luckovich chose him to be the angry liberal.

By Midori

June 16, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

((((Soo…Bush is not running for re-election but the “hulk” is enraged at the sight of the President of the USA who has led up through terrorist attacks, war, hurricanes and kept us free and safe. Yeah, that’s something to get angry about all right.)))))

you are one ignorant witch.

just pathetic.

the only people Chimpolini has kept free and safe are his friends and family he has helped loot our treasury.

you sure aren’t very demanding or discriminating. that’s for sure.

By Soothsayer

June 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

The Audi A8 in silver picture down below is made out of pure silver for the sheik….

Please cursor down to this photo of the A8.

By Paul

June 16, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Looks like Chris Dodd is out of the VP race for Obama.

Link: [Chris Dodd D-CT Defends Mortgage Deals]*(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2031385/posts)

Not good for Democrat Sen Conrad, either.

“We didn’t get preferential treatment” - anyone here able to pick up the phone and call the TOP guy and chat about a loan? LOL!

Just as family values Reps got lambasted when their secret deals became public, so it is with Dodd (Conrad to a lesser extent) who’ve lambasted the evil industry and the evil Bush administration. Hypocricy knows no Party boundaries.

Golly, ITN - don’t any of your links have anything to say about these two? Other than “they didn’t know”?

By Paul

June 16, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

I’m gonna give up on links. Or drink more coffee.

Link: Dodd

RW-(the original)

Just look at the way some on the Left have referred to Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, heck, even Bill Cosby -

By Steven Daedalus

June 16, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Dusty the idiot is back, Andi is so relieved.

By Soothsayer

June 16, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

In Fiscal Year 2006, the U. S. Government spent $406 Billion of your money on interest payments to the holders of the National Debt.

$406 billion is a stack of dollar bills 125 ft wide x 250 ft long x 615 ft tall!!!!! The height of a 49 story building.

By Soothsayer

June 16, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

By Steven Daedalus

June 16, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Why are so many people worried about McCain’s sge, heck Bush’s mental age is 3.

By Blogfather

June 16, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Cartoon today gets a B+

By Dusty

June 16, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Steven Daedalus,

Did you pose for Luckovich’s hulk sketch of today? Sure looks like you except he has all his teeth.

By BUSHY BUSH

June 16, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Good ‘toon Lucko.

perfect depiction of midori

BUSHY BUSH

By Bosch

June 16, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry Eb, we only have to endure a few more months of Bush. Hope he doesn’t bomb Iran before he leaves as another one of his goodwill gestures.

Paul,

Whoa! Post-apocalyptic Earth? Wasn’t expecting that. How depressing. Our BSG friends find Earth only to find it destroyed just like the planet they left. That last scene was great. The writers are making a pretty strong statement there.

By @@

June 16, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

What’ve we got here ml?

The “Big Green Weenie” that plumps when you cook him? or

A victim of BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) in need of more more “bulk” in his hulk?

Love the new ad in Michigan…

“Obama has a very realistic path to 270 that doesn’t include Ohio AND Florida, but he doesn’t have a realistic path if he somehow loses Ohio, Florida, AND Michigan.”

Say Bye Bye to Michigan Senator Obama.

By Paul

June 16, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Hey there. Had an extended family get-together. Nephew in law (Dad Spanish Mom German) spent the day glued to the tube. @!!# Croatians -

250 miles each way. I blew down with or above the flow. Coming back, I used cruise control at the speed limit.

Result - 16 percent less gas. At my prices that’s 68 cents a gallon.

So just by relaxing, driving no more than the limit, we as a nation could save bunches. Great demand reduction. Off my soap box.

NOTICE: An Intelligensia Discussion of BSG Ensues:

I broke away for BSG. Wow. The possibilities are enormous. I thought “Please, don’t rip off Plantet of the Apes.” But if that was waayyy long ago - pre Atlantis - Egypt - Caribbean sunken cities - or just a few years in the future. January can’t get here soon enough.

De-Anna was ruthlessly wicked. Lee - talk about putting the past behind. Colonel Tigh wanted to die, yes? Baltar continues his quest for redemption. Haven’t been on the boards to see what the scuttlebut is.

BUT - on another good series note - John Voigt’s been signed for the bad guy on the upcoming 24. That and BSG in the same week - this is gonna be so good -

By Midori

June 16, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

why, thank you Crusty for your 11:41.

seeing that you keep comparing intelligent people to today’s toon, I take that as quite a compliment.

By :D)

June 16, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

2PM tee time for Tiger.

By IN THE NEWS

June 16, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

McCain Sets a New Record: 10 Flip-Flops in Two Weeks

I WONDER IF HIS EXPERIENCING SOME SICK KIND OF PRIDE IN THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT!

By IN THE NEWS

June 16, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

A THOUGHT REGARDING McCAINS 10 FLIP FLOPS IN 10 DAYS…..

CHANGING YOUR MIND TEN TIMES IN TEN DAYS ON TEN ISSUES….

DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN

“AGENT OF CHANGE”

By Shawny

June 16, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

That ‘hulk’ is enraged because congress won’t let us drill our own oil, that it may spook a polar bear or caribou, all the while we import at ridiculous prices.

By Bosch

June 16, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Paul,

My son said “or maybe it’s post-rapture Earth.” He has such a dry sense of humor (imagine that). Anyway, that got me to think - what if the rapture does happen, Jesus comes back in all his glory, but we’ve all killed ourselves because of war and trashing our planet.

I guess he’d just turn around and go back to heaven thinking to himself, “Yeah, they just didn’t get it.”

By Shawny

June 16, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

the hulk is also PO-ed that foreigners can overstay their visas and have the US supreme court hear their case (the five libs voted in Dada’s favor)….and he is also PO-ed that Gitmo criminals get habeus corpus.

By MorningStar

June 16, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

By Bosch June 16, 2008 12:15 PM Don’t worry Eb, we only have to endure a few more months of Bush. Hope he doesn’t bomb Iran before he leaves as another one of his goodwill gestures

I’ve never been a gamblin’ kind of girl. I rarely buy a lottery ticket except for funsies. I hate to say this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he dropped the big bang bang on Iran before he leaves office. I’m praying to be wrong!!! Should this happen, this country has had the green weinee, so to speak.

By @@

June 16, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS:

Why are you screaming in all caps today?

By IN THE NEWS

June 16, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

McCain’s Ties to PNAC….

By Bosch

June 16, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Morningstar,

Yes, I hope I’m wrong about Iran, but since al-Maliki and ad-Sadr (?sp) are now in talks with Iran and giving Bush the finger, he’s going to have to save his image somehow. All the Shiites are working together in harmony - and as ad-Sadr said, these new militia groups he’s forming will be pointing their guns (probably ones we brought over there) at the occupiers (I think that’s us).

This isn’t our war anymore - time to get them home.

I’m still bummed about Tim Russert. Did anyone watch “Meet the Press” Sunday?

By bon scott

June 16, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

This may not be the proper form for a vent like this, but everyone else here throws waste on the wall to see if it sticks. Why should I be any different?

My tummy still aches from laughter after reading the guest op-ed from one Katerine Lewis (last Friday, 6/13) about her experience on ONE ride on ONE MARTA line to Midtown or Buckhead.

MARTA believer? No way

Maybe MARTA was having a bad day. We all have days. And Little Ms. Lewis and her experiences, (where nobody got hurt) would be downright funny. If she had a sense of humor.

First she says the train she got on (marked “Airport”) finally started moving. In the wrong direction. Mind you, Doraville is the end of the line. The only thing that awaits you outbound is rail yards, which I presume was not the destination of our particular Ms. Lewis.

After another wait, Ms. Lewis actually saw several rodents. Then she saw some self-absorbed motormen and conductors (Question: “Where are we going?” Answer: Grunts, sometimes accommodated by a grimace.

Then a derelict used her car as a urinal. Again (she says) this tiny breach of etiquette was nauseating. But hey, if you’re in a stuck train, and you gotta go, you GO! Another trip back to Doraville, where a train was reloaded and on it’s way downtown.

Okay, ROFL time. You want clean, reliable trains, go to DC. Want not so clean but reliable trains, go to NYC or Chicago. You want fairly clean trains that more or less keep to a schedule, pick Atlanta. But don’t get hyperactive and oversensitive. It’s contageous!

It amazes me that after one (ONE) MARTA trip, Miss Petticoat is ready to go back to her SUV and spend up to $20 bucks a day or more on gas and parking for her one vehicle/one person fix.

Man, if she’s an example of the 21st Century mind fix in this city, she is a total wimp, With a small w. And we.are.doomed Wonder how many others like her live the Atlanta area?

I hope they don’t even TRY to ride the train in a car with me in it. They make panhandlers look good.

By RW-(the original)

June 16, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Anybody waiting for a 2PM tee time is going to miss the first two hours of the playoff on ESPN. They’re already on the sixth hole.

By Bosch

June 16, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

bon scott,

Funny story. Yes, I’d rather hang out with panhandlers than folks like that.

By Dusty

June 16, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Errr Midori@12:36

I didn’t post anything at 11:41. Put on your glasses. That was BUSHY BUSH whomever that is. “Dusty” is my only ID and I have never used any other.

By DING DING DING

June 16, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

WE HAVE TWO WINNERS!!!!

bon scott and bosco (two lib LOSERS) are eager to accept mediocre and less than mediocre service.

democrat poster children.

By AmVet

June 16, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

This is one of those rare Supreme Court decisions, maybe a few dozen at most in the history of the republic that goes straight to the question of just what sort of country we are.

The decision written by Justice Anthony Kennedy —- representing a 5-4 majority ruled that foreign detainees, held without charges, can appeal to a civilian court.

But for all its investigation into the history of habeas corpus and questions about the operation of the so-called Suspension Clause, the basic ideas behind the ruling —- and the rights it upheld —- are simple:

What are the rights of persons accused by the government? Who gets to decide those rights? Who says what the law is?

It means that the government cannot deliberately put people beyond the reach of the Constitution and the laws of the US.

The executive branch cannot be prosecution, judge and jury and then take away the powers of the judicial branch.

Kennedy invoked one of the most famous constitutional law cases ever decided —- Marbury vs. Madison, in which the new court of a new nation decided in 1803 it had the power to review the constitutionality of the actions of the other two branches of government. It was, in effect, the beginning of constitutional law in this country.

Congress, at the urging of the Bush administration, tried to strip the federal courts of their jurisdiction to hear habeas corpus petitions brought by so-called “enemy combatants” held at Guantanamo. Habeas corpus is the right of an imprisoned person to have a judge hear evidence —- it’s a right that predates this nation and goes back to old English law.

Habeas corpus does not guarantee anyone’s release, but it requires the government to show why it is holding a person. It guarantees access to independent courts —- independent in the sense that, as Justice Kennedy noted, they were separate from the “political branches” of government.

What the government and Congress had created was a black hole into which both the detained and their rights had disappeared. This will bring order to a situation in which the wrong people were detained and the bad guys were released.

Politics, of course, could not help but play a role in a case so closely related to the horrors of Sept. 11 and the fears of terrorism —- but that is precisely why an independent judiciary that ultimately decides what the law is has been so important.

Continu

By AmVet

June 16, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

The administration and Congress “defied” earlier decisions involving Guantanamo inmates and could, conceivably, defy this one.

He said he was especially concerned about what he believed was the infusion of politics into the dissent written by Associate Justice Antonin Scalia. Scalia warned the majority decision could lead to more American deaths.

“Those words,” says Gibbons, “will go down in history as one of the most outrageous examples of partisan politics in the history of the Supreme Court.”

Chalk up another near defeat for America’s unique greatness under these neo-con neo-criminals…

By doug

June 16, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Phil Gramm has been living off the government t** his whole life. look it up.

By RW-(the original)

June 16, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

You left something out.

{{{{Bob Braun is a staff writer for The Star-Ledger of Newark, N.J.}}}}

That would also be the guy whose story you just plagiarized.

By Midori

June 16, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

you all look, sound and smell the same to me, Crusty.

By AmVet

June 16, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Ballerina,

Nice “anal”ysis, ya useless troll.

Now sit on it and spin…

By Steven Daedalus

June 16, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

I agree Dusty,he’s a pretty good looking guy. I’m 60 and still have all my teeth, never had a cavity. Nah na,nah na.

By RW-(the original)

June 16, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Useless? USELESS? Spin this!

Read it and weep plagiarist.

By AmVet

June 16, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Yes, useless troll.

Shouldn’t you be busy looking for holes in the fossil record?

By bon scott

June 16, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

DING! DING!! DING!!!

You truly have your head where the sun doesn’t shine. I described MARTA as adequate, not a shining example of transit systems that ones across the US should aspire to. MARTA sure beats the beejeezus out of the Downtown Connector, 40, I-75, I-20, I-85, etc. etc., with a few exceptions. MARTA gets you where you want to go, where you want to go, with far less hassle than driving a freeway. I suggest you take a course in remedial reading this summer. It might (just MIGHT) enable to grasp how sentences, and even whole paragraphs relate to eachother.

May I suggest a course in remedial reading over the summer?

By RW-(the original)

June 16, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

Once you get around to telling me any species that ever turned into a different one I’ll go check to see if there are holes in the fossil record.

By AmVet

June 16, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

I know of a human being in Norcross who turned into a troll…

By AJC/DNC Management

June 16, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS June 16, 2008 2:17 PM PERHAPS 60% OF TODAY’S OIL PRICE IS PURE SPECULATION…..}}}}

Yeah, the oil brokers are speculating that liberals in America will remain mindless and ignorant just like SNEWZE is.

It’s a pretty good bet, actually.

By @@

June 16, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

It’s looking like a progressive dinner over in the Middle East. Everybody’s dropping in on everybody for little chit chats and snacks.

Iran, the “nasty” neighbor sits and waits with their covered dish.

((The Iranian government plans to ask parliament for $7 billion to pay for fuel imports, Fars News Agency reported June 16. Hojjatollah Ghanimifard, a senior official with Iran’s Oil Ministry, said the amount needed during the Iranian year that ends in March 2009 could be even greater if international prices for gasoline and other fuels continue rising.))

((In February, Iran’s parliament authorized the Oil Ministry to import gasoline and gas oil for the equivalent of $3.2 billion in the fiscal year that began March 21, but that amount is proving insufficient.))

((Iran has withdrawn about $75 billion in assets from European banks to prevent the assets from being blocked by possible new sanctions over Iran’s nuclear activities.))

By @@

June 16, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

(((More than 2,000 Afghan tribesmen in the eastern province of Paktika rallied June 16 in support of President Hamid Karzai’s threat to send Afghan troops over the border into Pakistan to fight Taliban militants who enter Afghanistan in attacks against civilians and coalition troops, Press TV reported. Tribal elders were quoted as saying, “We are ready to fight the Pakistani Taliban with our own weapons and money.”)))

Allah luv ‘em.

By IN THE NEWS

June 16, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Detroit News editor chosen as the most biased in Michigan mainstream media …..

ONLY WINGNUTS NEED TO INGEST THE POOP AT 3:30

By IN THE NEWS

June 16, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Gore endorses Obama

By getalife

June 16, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

“But everything changed July 11 in the bright sunshine of Adhamiyah, Iraq. That day, while out on a simple meet-and-greet patrol, McKinney stepped out of his Humvee and yelled.

“F—- this!”

He raised the barrel of his M4 to his chin and squeezed off one shot.”

Damn

By IN THE NEWS

June 16, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

POLLS TODAY

Electoral-Vote.com Obama 304 McCain 221 Obama +83

FiveThirtyEight.com
Obama 300 McCain 238 Obama +62

Real Clear Politics
Obama 238 McCain 190 Obama +48

Rasmussen Reports
Obama 260 McCain 240 Obama +20

MSNBC
Obama 200 McCain 200 Tied

CNN
Obama 190 McCain 194 McCain +4

FUNNY ABOUT CNN AND MSNBC…..

By AJC/DNC Management

June 16, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Aahhh, yes, McBushie finally wretches up something we can all agree on:

{{{{Sen. John McCain said Monday the federal moratorium on offshore oil and gas drilling should be lifted, and individual states given the right to pursue energy exploration in waters near their own coasts.}}}}

Let’s do it.

By Ben There

June 16, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Andi, McBushie finally coughs up something YOU can agree on.

The rest of us aren’t so inclined to look decades into the past for solutions for the future.

Let’s do it? Let’s not.

I’d rather give five billion in government subsedies to that algea-to-fuel fellow.

By Midori

June 16, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

Go Tiger!! Go, Tiger!! Go, Tiger!!!

what an amazing man. what a great game.

Tiger Rules!!

By @@

June 16, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

(((Gore endorses Obama.)))

Is that supposed to be a good thing?

The GREATEST WHINER in politics’ recent history supports THE NEWEST WHINER in today’s politics. Let’s see now…other than a failed run for the presidency in 2000, after which his “blubbering” became a national embarassment, he’s the GURU OF GLOBAL WARMING.

Just after his Green Oscar Wienie Award in 2007, 24% of the public considered him an expert on the topic. 47% said he didn’t know what he was talking about. The remainder left it up to debate, which Gore declared

O

V

E

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Doesn’t know what he’s talking about?

Why wouldn’t he endorse Obumbler?

They’re a perfect match.

By Midori

June 16, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

that’s ok, @@ - we know what disgustingly low standards the GOP has.

you guys take and allow all sorts of perverted, evil, selfish, greedy behavior.

so naturally when you see two upstanding democratic leaders — one supporting and endorsing the other —your mind simply does not compute.

must be tough cleaning all that fecal brain matter up from the floor.

carry on, child bride.

carry on.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 16, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

Well, well, the liberals have deposited another fine example of what vast intelligence they possess, so weak and shallow:

{{{{By Ben There June 16, 2008 4:33 PM Andi, McBushie finally coughs up something YOU can agree on. The rest of us aren’t so inclined to look decades into the past for solutions for the future. Let’s do it? Let’s not. I’d rather give five billion in government subsedies to that algea-to-fuel fellow.}}}}

Do tell us, dhimmi, why hasn’t the private sector taken advantage of this lucrative seaweed business you are so enamored with?

Picture for a moment, the seaweed sucking crews showing up for their very first extraction, with all of their heavy equipment, when out of the blue, some dimwit environmental terrorist shows up, shrieking and screaming, and hurls themselves in front of the machinery, scolding that you are disturbing the mating habitat of the poor little sand fleas.

And yes, thee United States sits upon a sea of oil, we are awash in it, so let’s invent something to replace it, even knowing that our first attempt wiped out the nest eggs of millions of the elderly and starved poor children all around the world, burns dirtier than oil and uses 1.7 gallons of gasoline to replace one gallon of gasoline.

Brilliant, I tell you!

Kill a few million kids and mire the poor deeper in poverty, that’s your legacy, you stupid POS, not mine.

Be proud of your ignorant self.

By Political Foreskin

June 16, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

How will history treat Gore? They will say that a man who refused to put his country through the throes of a contended election result, and accept the conspired supreme court/executive branch decision, is a hero, and should be honored as a martyr for giving up his fairly won popular victory in the election of 2000. Ditto Kerry.

Liberals love their country too much to allow the GOP to destroy it. Liberals knew our time would come, despite the egregious costs. Look how conservatism has hurt us all. Isn’t it shamefull? Read @@ and RW’s horrible nonsense. You are reading the vestiges of a failed thought process, a failed political movement, and a failed regime of hate.

Rejoice that our long national nightmare is over.

RW+@@ are now part of the ash-heap of history. We are right and it is just to dance on the graves of their hateful opinions, buried deep, which ended up being as common as the a-holes their worthless lives define them 2B.

Bwa..

By Glenn

June 16, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

Looks like the entire blog cast of right-wing mongers is active here today. Something in the tomatoes they’re eating? McPain and his I’ll - make-it-my-life-by-playing- the-Hero Card is their latest idol. This after the heroic Bushes and their grand accomplishments. The lives these little people lead are an example and reminder that there are things in life that are worse than…death.

By Grateful Moderate

June 16, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

@@ss thinks that the 2000 recounts, considering Karen Harris Culture of Corruption, is “whining”?

What a vile, bitter piece of old dried-up work she is.

But I love it.

In today’s environment, people like her drive folks to the Moderates and Lefties every time they open their hateful mouths.

By @@

June 16, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

And I know the low intellectual standards you take pride in Midori.

Speaking of evil, selfish and greedy behavior. I suggest you read that whole article. Are you for capitalism and market speculators or are you against…..OOOOOOR, do ‘ya just want to be selective. Al’s a Washington insider who lobbies congress on behalf of whom exactly? Do you support lobbyists Midori?

There are some that may have respected (past tense) Gore at one time, but then he reached down and grabbed ‘em by their globes. That makes him a pervert as well.

65% of Americans reject spending even a penny more for gasoline in an effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.PollLiebermanWarner_052808.html)

Come on girlfriend…..your turn to cornpuke.

By Paul

June 16, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

Political Foreskin 5:33

“accept the conspired supreme court/executive branch decision” (Bush v Gore)

So, what happened to the conspiracy with last week’s decision?

Grateful Moderate

If you’re a moderate, Gloria Steinem’s a stay at home mom.

By Paul

June 16, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

@@

Typical poll result.

“Are you for N?”

Yes!!!

“Will you pay for it?”

NO!

My favorite was the health care poll showing an overwhelming number of respondents would pay higher taxes for universal health care. Five hundred dollars higher!

Small surprise. A single person can spend almost twice that a MONTH. So, yeah, who wouldn’t pay five hundred a year to drop their own insurance?

By Ben There

June 16, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

I seem to recall a post here from Friday that should be repeated every time this AJC/Andi-thing pollutes this forum:

Delusions of self-importance on Andi’s scale go far beyond bullying; they fall into the patholigical.

Couple that with his endless facination with gay sex, religious extremism and unquestioned power.

Now mix in his willing acceptance of torture, revenge and hate and you’ve got one f@cked up guy. Or girl.

His unhinged manifestos have more in common with the ramblings of the Unibomber than simple, sane people blogging for fun.

I’ll bet you money he keeps his grandmother downstairs in the freezer.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 16, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Paul June 16, 2008 6:05 PM So, what happened to the conspiracy with last week’s decision?}}}}

Paul: You are getting way ahead of these hypocrite liberals, I can imagine that your snide remark was met with furious blinking and gaping mouths.

These liberals really are stupid, there is no doubt about that.

The American people will learn, albeit the hard way, just as the Iraqis did, discovering that the Americans were not the real bad guys, like the left wing terrorist loving propaganda hacks told them.

I just hope they figure this out before we embark upon our journey of ruin, they are starting to learn about the no drilling idiocy and when it does fully dawn on them, geez, won’t the environmental terrorists look ridiculous?

As always.

By Paul

June 16, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

Ben There

“I’ll bet you money he keeps his grandmother downstairs in the freezer.”

Now that’s just plain weird, implying you think his Gramma is hot.

By Donovan

June 16, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

Bad call actually, Mr. Luckovich. That may be the reaction to President Bush that you smarts$s metropenciuals experience, but most Americans are better aware than you are of how many blessings this country lavished on them, and appreciate that the President is a professedly imperfect man trying his, to me, refreshingly level best to rise to his terrible challenges.

In short, you’re a smug turd, in a nation that tolerates and even rewards more than its share of smug turds. If smugglings such as you should manage to elect one of your own, then I think you’ll see, in due course and in the face of a very peesed off electorate exactly what the Hulk really looks like.

You blew it.

By @@

June 16, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

Hey Paulo! Don’t know what you get through your Stratfor e-mails but they’ve got this three-part series going on “Saudi Oil: The Foundation of Geopolitical Power”.

They call it an interactive sump’n sump’n. Very interesting. It covers historical periods and regional occurrences when oil prices began to rise. Goes into an explanation as to why.

Heck! The Saudis and Russia have been in competition since Russia’s decline?

I did not know that….

I have so much to learn, and unless I do I can’t begin to understand what’s goin’ on.

It’s so much fun!

By AJC/DNC Management

June 16, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Ben There June 16, 2008 6:13 PM I’ll bet you money he keeps his grandmother downstairs in the freezer.}}}}

I thought we were discussing “alternatives” to oil?

Oh, I forgot, you’re a liberal and you are discussing “alternatives” to oil, in your own “special” little way.

Mental midget.

Are there NO liberals in the world that can debate?

Really, look at their presidential dimwit, “I’ll do one debate as long as you don’t ask me any questions.”

Sorry.

By @@

June 16, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

I wonder if the states will take McCain up on his royalties for oil offer.

Royalties is probably not a good word to use when trying to convince liberals but hey….

they don’t have to be left out!

I dub thee ROYAL PAINS IN THE >>A$$<<

See, I even give ‘em a couple of dollar signs.

Please, no need to thank me for my generosity. You uber left-wing goobers deserve it.

By Paul

June 16, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

@@

Yeah, there’s no interest like self interest. Witness the latest - high prices force conservation, limit their income. Pump up production, bring prices down, hope history repeats, people go back to profligate ways, Saudis are happy.

They are not our friends. We trade with them, they have something we want, but they are not friends.

I just plain do not understand the calculus by which envirolibs conclude it’s better to deal with them than to, say, build a nuclear power plant. Or make allowances for shale oil extraction.

Saudis and Russians both want power - but in different ways. Interesting to see how they go about obtaining it, isn’t it?

AJC/DNC

I didn’t mean to insult your Gramma. She could very well be a hottie. Don’t know how Ben would know, though. Active imagination, perhaps -

By AmVet

June 16, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

Coming from a screw up like the ballerina RW I take that “anal”ysis as a very good sign.

You see, ricky retardo, when you beg to get your thick head kicked in, as you regularly do here, I, and numerous others, are ready to oblige.

Aloha, off to Hawaii!

See you all in a week!

By AJC/DNC Management

June 16, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

{{{{geez, won’t the environmental terrorists look ridiculous?}}}}

Really, there were days when people would shoot the first moose they saw and eat it, not sit around worrying over it being “disturbed.”

These are the most spoiled, pampered and coddled morons that have ever filled their diapers in all of modern history, they have it thousands of times easier than their ancestors, so much convenience and no hardships in their fat, plump little lives, and even despite all that, they hate themselves and hate the country that has given them everything a person could ever want.

It is so bizarre, so idiotic, so………like a liberal.

By @@

June 16, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

I would just like to take this opportunity to point out that when Hillary Clinton, in her waning days, challenged Barack Obumbler to a Lincoln/Douglas style debate that he declined. Can’t remember his reason…probably flimsy like his underwear.

Now he invites McCain to a Lincoln/Douglas style debate?

How very OOOOOOOriginal.

By Donovan

June 16, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

Bad call actually, Mr. Luckovich. That may be the reaction to President Bush that you smarts$s metropenciuals experience, but most Americans are better aware than you are of how many blessings this country lavished on them, and appreciate that the President is a professedly imperfect man trying his, to me, refreshingly level best to rise to his terrible challenges.

In short, you’re a smug turd, in a nation that tolerates and even rewards more than its share of smug turds. If smugglings such as you should manage to elect one of your own, then I think you’ll see, in due course and in the face of a very peesed off electorate exactly what the Hulk really looks like.

You blew it.

By @@

June 16, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

Paulo:

(((I just plain do not understand the calculus by which envirolibs conclude it’s better to deal with them than to, say, build a nuclear power plant. Or make allowances for shale oil extraction.)))

That was my thought too. I mean here we are in the middle of two competitors without anty for the game.

Anty up the domestic oil. Kill the speculators, bring down the price, and then let them fight over the pot. We’re free and clear…out of the game of chance.

I thought Newt Gingrich’s proposal was an excellent idea. Win now, win later. It’s a no lose proposition.

By Paul

June 16, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

AmVet

Have a great time! There’s a wonderful little museum on the main island, beautiful artifacts. Just outside Honolulu, I believe.

LDS have a South Pacific visitor’s center on the NE side - no preaching - but there are replicas of the various south sea island villages and people from those islands to give background. Well worth a couple hours.

By Donovan

June 16, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Bad call actually, Mr. Luckovich. That may be the reaction to President Bush that you smarts$s metropenciuals experience, but most Americans are better aware than you are of how many blessings this country lavished on them, and appreciate that the President is a professedly imperfect man trying his, to me, refreshingly level best to rise to his terrible challenges.

In short, you’re a smug turd, in a nation that tolerates and even rewards more than its share of smug turds. If smugglings such as you should manage to elect one of your own, then I think you’ll see, in due course and in the face of a very peesed off electorate exactly what the Hulk really looks like.

You blew it.

By Donovan

June 16, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Bad call actually, Mr. Luckovich. That may be the reaction to President Bush that you smarts$s metropenciuals experience, but most Americans are better aware than you are of how many blessings this country lavished on them, and appreciate that the President is a professedly imperfect man trying his, to me, refreshingly level best to rise to his terrible challenges.

In short, you’re a smug turd, in a nation that tolerates and even rewards more than its share of smug turds. If smugglings such as you should manage to elect one of your own, then I think you’ll see, in due course and in the face of a very peesed off electorate exactly what the Hulk really looks like.

You blew it.

By Midori

June 16, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

Andy and @@ sound like two pre schoolers. My grandchildren offer more intelligent insight.

flimsy underwear??? where’d you pick up that knee slapper? at the jungle jim? sandbox?

I’m off to watch the Europeans pelt your ideal of a president with rotten eggs.

ta!!

By AJC/DNC Management

June 16, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

{{{{Dimocrats in the Congress, who came to power last year on a call to end the combat in Iraq, will soon give President George W. Bush the last war-funding bill of his presidency without any of the conditions they sought for withdrawing U.S. troops, congressional aides said on Monday.}}}}

Say, how are all those other kampaign promises working out for you dimwits?

By Strunkenwhite

June 16, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

YOU, accusing “Andi” of “delusions of self-importance”?

You’re projecting. Seriously. You’re in the throes of it. It could be a really problem for you, and a very present threat to yourself and to others. No, seriously. It’s OK. It’s not rare or anything — much less unheard-of.

It’s just, a concern. That’s all. That you perceive in others the manifestations of labile self-importance, hmmn. That’s something, I grant you, that we really might want to ponder a bit.

Don’t you think?

By @@

June 16, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

AmVet’s goin’ to Hiwahyer?

There’s an active volcano over there. Spittin’ fire and brimstone it is.

Sacrifice yourself for the good of mankind AmVet.

Plug that sucker.

By RW-(the original)

June 16, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

Ah yes, here we have Blowhard sneaking in to play tuff guy and then running off to “Hawaii.”

Would anybody be surprised to see a “brand new” ignorant, monotonous, big headed fool show up here tomorrow?

Blowhard the next time you kick my head in, in type or any other way, will be the first.

 

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