Mike Luckovich

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

{{{{A Senate bill to cut greenhouse gases and address global warming is heading toward almost certain defeat after nearly a week of stalemate and partisan bickering. Supporters have concluded there is virtually no chance for the 60 votes needed to break a >>>>>Republican filibuster,<<<<<< several senators said.-Urinal/PMS}}}}

For those of you who are mathematically challenged, there are AT LEAST 11 dhimmikrat senators voting with the Repugs against this raise the cost of living for the poor atrocity. Why is this important, you ask, because the Urinal/PMS and environmental terrorists are trying to make it look like the “Neanderthal Republicans” are the ones stalling this monstrosity and that is just not true.

AJC Liars.

Brace yourself for lying propaganda stories in the pinko media about Conservatives not “caring” about the environment, but not one story about the massive tax increase this bill will levy on any user of energy and won’t do a damn thing to “help” the environment.

Believe me, your average American citizen has far more intelligence than all of Congress put together, if the dimwits on the left jack the cost of heating oil up to get you to use less, then saw a freaking tree down and burn it in your fireplace.

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{{{{The United Arab Emirates said it will name an ambassador to Baghdad, the first Arab country to restore full diplomatic ties to Iraq since Saddam Hussein’s regime fell in 2003.}}}}

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{{{{Rezko conviction fodder for GOP- Republicans moved quickly Thursday to capitalize on the corruption conviction of Chicago businessman Antoin “Tony” Rezko, 52, who was once a major fund-raiser for DukaKerry.-Urinal/PMS}}}}

Gee, it’s almost as though we have forgotten Jack Abramoff.

Sucks to have your name dragged through the mud, don’t it?

Time to play pin the scandal on the pinko, in a target rich environment no less.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

{{{{Robert Reich, once Bill Clinton’s Secretary of Labor and now a professor at Berkeley, has been outspoken about how greedy conservatives are. Conservatives believe in “reviving social Darwinism” and because of conservatives, “America has placed too high a value on selfishness.”}}}}

{{{{Barack Obama has a rather poor track record when it comes to charitable contributions. He consistently gave 1 percent of his income to charity. In his most charitable year, 2005, he earned $1.7 million (two and a half times what George W. Bush earned) but gave about the same dollar amount as the President.}}}}

{{{{The last two Democratic Party nominees for President have come up short on the charity scale. Al Gore has been famously stingy when it comes to actually giving his own money to charities. In 1998 he was embarrassed when his tax returns revealed that he gave just $353 to charity.}}}}

{{{{Senator John Kerry likewise has a poor record. In 1995 he gave zero to charity, but did spend $500,000 to buy a half stake in a seventeenth century painting. In 1993, he gave $175 to the needy.}}}}

{{{{Kennedy’s tax returns are obviously a closely guarded secret. But when he chose to run for President in the 1970s, he released some of them. With a net worth of more than $8 million in the early 1970s and an income of $461,444 from a series of family trusts, Senator Robin Hood gave barely 1 percent of his income to charity.}}}}

{{{{Jesse Jackson has often claimed that he operates from a “liberal spirit of compassion and love” while conservatives are “heartless and uncaring toward the silent poor.” But according to his publicly-released tax returns, he regularly donates less than 1 percent to charity.}}}}

They give your money away, not their’s.

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

The Obama Pound

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Uh-oh. I hope you’re wrong about this one, Lucko! The Clintons need to fully support our Dem candidate in pursuing the White House, or else they will be committing political suicide!

By Copyleft

June 6, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

For once, I’m going to have to copy In The News and post a fantastic story myself:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-06-05-lobbyists_N.htm

“Barack Obama put his stamp on the party Thursday, announcing the Democratic National Committee would no longer accept donations from political action committees or federal lobbyists. That brings the party in line with his campaign’s policy.”

Isn’t that GREAT? McLame is absolutely, neatly TRAPPED by this maneuver. If he doesn’t follow suit and reject lobbyist money too, he demonstrates his own weak ethics AND his hypocrisy on the one issue he tried to link with his own name: campaign-finance reform.

(No coincidence that this is the same issue most of the party leadership and their obedient media drones absolutely HATE him for!)

And if he DOES rise to the challenge and swear off lobbyist crack, his campaign is left with no funding! And yet another reminder to Republican power brokers of why they don’t really like him in the first place.

All this, as President Obama’s first act as official “candidate.” Well played, sir! I hope we can expect similar demonstrations of putting your high ideals and principles into practice.

It’ll be a nice change from the last eight years of cowardice and anti-American power lust.

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

DANCING BARACK

AND

SINGING McCAIN

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

[Swing ‘Em Home - Golfing for the troops in Iraq] (http://www.uppitywis.org/swing-em-home-golfing-troops-iraq)

AND

“”I don’t want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf,” he said. “I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal.”

Bush said he made that decision after the August 2003 bombing of the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad”

BUT

Bush actually played his last round of golf on October 13, 2003.

AND

“At a campaign stop today, Sen. John McCain’s introductory speaker took a sharp and potentially sensitive swipe at Sen. Barack Obama, saying that McCain was “the real audacity of hope” and not just a political “Tiger Woods.” Former Army Staff Sergeant David Bellavia, who introduced the Arizona senator at a Vets For Freedom rally, sought to contrast McCain’s “lifetime of service to our nation” against the lack of resolve of his political opponents. And while he never addressed Obama by name, he did offer this nugget. “Rest assured,” he told the crowd, “that men like Senator McCain will be the goal and the men that my two young boys will emulate and admire. You can have your Tiger Woods, we’ve got Senator McCain.”

AND

Get John McCain golf gear to prove you hate elitest scum like Obama

DAMN GOLF’S GETTING POLITICAL

By Paul

June 6, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

Then you’re gonna love this. The International Energy Agency says the world (that usually means mostly the US) will have to spend $45 trillion to cut greenhouse gasses by half by 2050.

Considering a main argument against the Iraq war is we can’t afford it, well, that’s cost us just over a trillion.

But not to worry. IEA says it’ll require 1400 nuclear power plants, so we’ll probably have a stalemate.

Goldie - who’da thunk? Iran’s “peaceful” nuclear program is designed to combat global warming!

ITN: can you bring us any articles from your sites showing outrage over the Dem Congress’s budget blueprint. You know, the one that not only has the tax cuts expire for the reallyreally rich (not a bad idea) - but also hits 20 million (that’s MILLION) Americans, middle class families, mostly, with the Alternate Minimum Tax, which greatly increases the amount of tax they have to pay, even if computing their taxes in the normal way is much lower.

How on earth is this defensible?

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

Dylan is Da Man! And he’s long understood that the times need a-changin’:

“He’s redefining what a politician is, so we’ll have to see how things play out. Am I hopeful? Yes, I’m hopeful that things might change. Some things are going to have to.”— He added: “You should always take the best from the past, leave the worst back there and go forward into the future.”

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

DAMN

THAT GOLF LINK IS QUITE CLEVER I”LL TRY AGAIN

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this

All politics local, Florida edition

AND

Obama Camp Release on McCain’s Opposition to National Catastrophic Insurance Fund

By Paul

June 6, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Copyleft 8:13

That IS great.

Too bad the House and Senate Democrats won’t let it apply to them.

ITN 8:13

“He said he wouldn’t play golf but let met tell you when he actually played a round…”

Isn’t this big-issue focus getting a tad pathetic?

By Shawny

June 6, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

funny toon. Man, she just doesn’t give up. Good editorial piece in NYT today, though I don’t have the link handy. Its premise is “what does it say about the nomination process if the winner would lose if the election was today and the loser would win?”

Saw that $45 T estimate too, Paul. Ridiculous. Build nuke plants now. Extract oil from the sands now. Drill in ANWR and off the Florida coast now. Build more refineries now.

Did you know that Cuba and other countries are now drilling closer to the Florida shores than we are?

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

Paul

Can you bring us any articles from YOUR websites that show beyond a shadow of a doubt that your take is utterly and completely accurate? That there are no shadings or nuances in your depiction?

Don’t assume I ignore an issue…. I may just be ignoring you… or mowing the lawn….. or making some money…. or playing with the family…. or staining the fence….

Picking at you ain’t a real high priority for me…..especially on a beautiful Friday.

Now on to my mission.

By Shawny

June 6, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Listened to a CNN interview with Bob Barr last night. Like what he has to say. Too bad he can’t win and we will continue with partisan politics as usual.

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

SQUISH

GOP Memo: Goal For Climate Debate Is ‘Making Political Points’………………The full memo explains the GOP strategy to obstruct and delay action

SQUIRM

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

FLIP

After Standing Against Everglades Restoration, McCain Visits Park To Bolster Environmental Credentials

FLOP

By @@

June 6, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

and in the ball park, Bill’s working concessions hawking “the wiener”.

Vanity, thy name is Democrat.

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Limbaugh: Bush donors say he’ll strike Iran before term ends.

By RB from Gwinnett

June 6, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Ah, yes, the Altanta housing report posted right here on the AJC web site. Seems in the last year, “About half of the ZIP codes in metro Atlanta saw a drop in their median price.” Gee, doesn’t that mean about half the zip codes in metro Atlanta saw an INCREASE IN THEIR MEDIAN PRICE too? (Somebody please help Bosch out with the math on that logic. He’s a “bottom halfer”, you know).

Yes, I know I cherry picked the statements from the report and, yes, I know the market has been affected, mostly by slower sales, but when half the zip codes in the metro area increase in median price during what the whiny liberals call the “housing crisis”, you might have to actually THINK it’s not as bad in Atlanta as the media makes it out to be. Gee, I wonder where we’ve heard that before??!!!

Abomi, please don’t let the data get in the way of your hysteria. Go ahead and finish painting your “the sky is falling” poster and run on down to the underground with all the other dunces. Also, don’t let last quarter’s INCREASE in the GDP get in the way of your “recession” hysteria. If you repeat it enough, you’ll believe it. Losers.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

{{{{But cumulatively through the primaries, exit polls found that DukaKerry De Wimp won only 35 percent of the Latino vote, 35 percent of the Catholic vote, 30 percent among whites without college degrees, and 28 percent among white seniors—groups that the party typically relies upon. He also faces doubts among Jews, a small bloc that might nevertheless tip the scales in Florida and Pennsylvania. Early polling diverges on whether DukaKerry could run as well as Bruno among those constituencies against presumptive GOP nominee John McCain. Even if the answer is no, DukaKerry could offset any erosion by posting gains in his demographic strongholds. But his struggles with such groups as Latinos and working-class whites increase the odds that he will need to assemble a new coalition to win, probably one tilted more upscale than usual for Democrats. “At the beginning, I thought we would rather run against Bruno,” one top GOP operative says. “But it is more of a challenge for him than for her to put together a coalition.”}}}}

By LCC

June 6, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

With people like Rezko backing our new Pres. I have a feeling we are going to have four years of Black Water instead of White Water.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:33

So, I take it you think the Dems budget blueprint sticking 20 million middleclass Amereicans with higher Alternate Minimum Taxes isn’t defensible? I assume that only because your response is what you normally do when you want to avoid answering a question.

And because your sites ignored it (Dems can’t do ANYTHING bad mantra).

BTW - for the umpteenthumpteenth time, just because someone asks a question or challenges a Party, doesn’t mean they take the opposite position. Just look at my discussion with Goldie yesterday. Goldie seemed to have a bit of difficulty with a Pres Obama who’d even hint he’d engage in Middle East warfare. I’m rather pleased, from a security standpoint, that Senator Obama said there are circumstances under which he as President Obama would pull the trigger and nuk’em till they glow. Because I questioned what Obama said doesn’t mean I disagree. I may well agree.

But from you and your sites, I can see how admitting a massive tax increase on middle class Americans could cost votes. Which could hand the election to McCain. Which is why they ignore it. Instead of pressuring Congressional Dems to change their policy.

Shawny,

Actually, it’s a bit of fun with numbers. The estimate was over decades. As with any “projection” - especially one over such a long time - the key is to look not just at the answer, but the variables, assumptions and motives that went into producing the final number.

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Good morning bloggers!

Hills, Hills, what a disappointment. Tsk, tsk.

Sigh.

Paul,

I think you logged off last night before I could respond - are you sure there are only 2 more BSG episodes left because they’ve got a lot to do! Did you catch that Number Six is pregnant? By SAUL? Ewwww.

Anyway, can’t wait ‘til tonight!

But we have to get through the day first.

The other Bosch and I were enjoying cocktails on the porch last night and were discussing what I believe to be a very important issue that no one really talks about - old people and how we are going to care for them.

The baby boomers are getting old - I look in on old relatives every day - get their groceries, pay their bills, drink tea with them, etc. These relatives of mine live on a fixed income (worked their entire lives, retired) and many of you who don’t have older relatives yet will soon find out, the cost of caring for the elderly far outweighs any pensions, Medicare, Social Security payments they receive.

My mom just retired and my dad retired years ago, but there “retirement cash” is dropping considerably, and they have WAY less money than they expected to have.

It’s a huge problem.

By Copyleft

June 6, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

LCC: We’ve already had eight years of Blackwater. And Halliburton.

Time for a CHANGE, don’t you think?

(snicker)

By Pete Rose

June 6, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Good toon lucko.

Hit a sister while she’s down…

Man, you Obamamamas sure are sore winners.

By w00t

June 6, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Part 1:

Andysaq, this is what I don’t understand about you and your kind. You claim to be for the people of the United States, but when confronted with real problems all the Republican Party can do is dig in kicking and screaming while the Democratic Party has to pull them through Congress. When the bill doesn’t pass, the republicans are quick to stand up and shout that “Democratic Congress has done nothing!”

A memo recently came out showing the so called “strategy” of the Republican Party on how they would handle the Lieberman-Warner Climate Security Act. Their goal stated:

The goal is for a theme, e.g. climate bill - higher gas prices, each day, and the focus is much more on making political points than in amending the bill, changing the baseline text for any future debate, or affecting policy.

These people, who are sent to Congress to do the work of the people and to protect us, are doing nothing more than a political stunt to gain nothing more than “political points”. Instead of actually worrying about the potential for global warming, or climate change as others prefer, they would rather use talking points to scare the public from the truth. This is a disgusting display of distortion and power.

I think Scott McClellan was right when he talked about the constant campaign.

By w00t

June 6, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Part II:

In reality, there are only four outcomes of the two possible decisions that Congress makes.

If we decided to act on global warming yet in the long run there is no climate change then all we have done is spent some money on programs that weren’t necessary. However, at the same time we have created new jobs, new technologies and lessened our dependency on oil. This is a Type I error, or a false-positive.

If we decided to do nothing, and there is NO global warming, then no harm done, we didn’t spend any extra money, and life goes on.

If we decide to act on global warming and it turns out there is global warming, then we have everything to gain. We have saved the environment, created new jobs, new technologies, cut or eliminated or dependencies on oil, while spending some extra money in government to start these programs. The effort was worth it.

However, if we chose not to act and there IS global warming, the consequences could be much worse than spending extra money. There could be complete loss of ecosystems, flooded costal areas, loss of life, mass extinctions, the potential for society to break down, etc. This is a Type II error, or a False Negative. This is the worse type of error.

Do you really want to weigh the future of this plant, its people, or your family on the prospect of a few “political points”? The potential for global warming is there, science shows it everyday. If there is no global warming, then the effects of doing something far out weigh those if we did nothing.

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

LCC

Here’s your homework….

Find out how much money Tony Rezko raised for George W. Bush’s campaign.

Compare it to how much he raised for Obama’s campaign.

Then review the Chicago Tribune’s statement after it’s lengthy review of the issue.

The popping sound we then will hear, will be the removal of your head from your rectal sphinctor!

(I think LCC, doe not drink the koolaid - he pours the powder into a spoon heat it and then takes it via syringe!)

Paul,

For the gazillionth time…..show me the data. Show me the factual truth of your statement.

Then I get to decide whether it’s worthy of rebuttal.

Sorry, but you don’t set my agenda!

(Boy you are awful testy this morning)

By Paul

June 6, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

Hi Bosch

Yes - I had to run to the post. But yes I’m sure - just two episodes. And thanks for the reminder on Saul. That’s what was kicking around in the back recesses of my mind - related to my post - we now have offspring from Cylons.

I still wonder if that will be a 12-factor.

Careful with your musings, Bosch. When some people bring up problems with Medicare/Social Security they’re labeled Bush fearmongers.

But I agree it’s a huge problem. Obama concerns me because he’s stated categorically he’s opposed to any tinkering with the current system of determining benefits. No adjustments in age, rate calculation, anything. Just raise the cap on earnings and that’ll solve the problem. I think that’s a grand example of a candidate knowing better but playing for votes.

This from the Guardian (Brit paper) in an interview with Clint Eastwood. Cool guy.

“Eastwood still likes to let his views be known, often forcefully. In 2005, he vowed he’d kill Michael Moore if the documentarian ever showed up at his house, the way he had doorstepped Charlton Heston in Bowling for Columbine. This March he was sacked from Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s California state parks commission for objecting to the building of a toll road through a national forest. But though he has been associated in the public mind with Republican viewpoints, he’s something of an individualist. “I don’t pay attention to either side,” he claims. “I mean, I’ve always been a libertarian. Leave everybody alone. Let everybody else do what they want. Just stay out of everybody else’s hair. So I believe in that value of smaller government. Give politicians power and all of a sudden they’ll misuse it on ya.”

Big wind blew through last night. Gotta go get some branches and leaves out of the pool. Later -

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

{{Just look at my discussion with Goldie yesterday. Goldie seemed to have a bit of difficulty with a Pres Obama who’d even hint he’d engage in Middle East warfare.}}

Baghdad Bob @ — this is all I’m gonna repeat for you about yesterday’s posts… I had no problem with what Obama said at the AIPAC conference — that was you and RWanker who were having “difficulty” understanding what he was saying. I stated early on that I’m all for stopping nuclear proliferation and whatever that entails. What I also know is that our new President Obama will only use our military programs as a LAST RESORT, which is a lot of comfort for all Americans to know after what we’ve had to endure these past 8 years!

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

This pis-ses me off:

{{{{By Bosch June 6, 2008 8:56 AM The other Bosch and I were enjoying cocktails on the porch last night and were discussing what I believe to be a very important issue that no one really talks about - old people and how we are going to care for them.}}}}

I been telling people for dcades that if you believe that government is going to provide for your every need, then you are a mouth breathing gullible little chump, easily awed by slick power mongering politicians, which pretty much describes the entire dhimmokrat party.

Now I got some lib discovering this amazing revelation over drinks, no less.

And of course, what answer does this pinko have for the problem?

More government.

What about eliminating the death tax? Not taxing savings? No pension taxes? What about explaining to each and every citizen that they should try to put away 10% or what ever of their income if they want a comfortable retirement, instead of listening to the lies of these goons and hacks like Klinton and DukaKerry.

Social Security will never give you security, ever, why do we fool ourselves?

Oh, I’m sorry, why do you fool yourselves?

By Paul

June 6, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

ITN,

Yeah, I was quite outraged when I saw the budget blueprint reports. Seven percent increase for the Pentagon. Seven percent! At that rate their budget would double in a decade. It assumed Iran and Afghanistan would cost zero after next year. After all the hoopla about costs, the Dems come in with a $0 estimate! Doesn’t even touch Medicare. Sorry, Bosch.

The Bush Administration and Rep Congress led some major screwups and abdications of responsibility with our country’s finances so we voted in a Dem Congress. And on just a blueprint - not an actual budget, but a blueprint - the Dem Congress appears to be a twin of the ending Bush Administration/Rep Congress. BOHICA.

So yeah, I expected better. And it ticks me off that middle-class Americans are going to get hit again (as you read some of the articles, on from the AP, another showing how a newspaper addresses it - please keep in mind that in Washingtonspeak, reading “endorses a ONE-year “” of the AMT means that after next year they will get hit with the AMT.

Link: {AP - House Passes Democratic Budget Plan](http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gSu1RI33g5jZfU8YAz7ZFmoPbb7AD9144BJO1)

Link: House Approves Blueprint

Now I do have to get to those leaves -

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Shawny @ 8:34 — I’m with you about Bob Barr’s effectiveness… and I think he should just add Ron Paul to his ticket so that he’d really be doing a big favor for all of America!

By Ray

June 6, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Congressional Dems from Pelosi to Maxine Waters have decried the evils of the “rich” for so long that you would think that someone who makes money is a devil of some kind. For a good look at how our tax monies are collected, go to www.taxfoundation.org. 95% of the taxes paid to the fed govt are paid by less than 2% of the people. They are paying the bills for 42M people who pay NO TAXES AT ALL. This non-taxpaying public is pandered by the Dems for votes. Without them, there would not be a liberal elected to be dogcatcher. “Evil” rich people run companies that supply jobs, pay a share of 401K money, pay half of your FICA tax, provide an avenue for the middle class to advance their living status and run a market driven economy that keeps this country solvent. Some of them, like Enron, are guilty of some pretty bad practices but overall, most company business, both small business and large corporations are the life blood of this country. Why is this so hard for liberals to grasp?

By bon scott

June 6, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

wOOt - I like your approach to the theoretical problem of global warming. I say “theoretical” because while there’s no irrefutable proof that the Earth IS warming, and humans are responsible, there’s no irrefutable proof that the Earth’s climate is stable, and pollutants aren’t to blame for any long term global weather changes.

To paraphrase a German philosopher whose name I can’t recall, “Sometimes, it is better to do “evil”, than do nothing.”

Kind of funny that Andee SUDPO (Secret Underground Democratic Party Operative) once wrote to me here that he favored research on the POSSIBLE problem. But in all his other posts, he argues that global warming is just the hallucinations of a bunch of tree huggers and isn’t worth a dime of research.

Talk about having your head in the sand.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

mmoron: You know that Greenland used to be a fertile land covered with vegetation and that now it is covered in ice and snow?

What a maroon you really are.

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Imagine if you had put 12.4% of your income into even the most modest of interest bearing accounts for your entire working life how much better off you would be in retirement than letting the government steal 12.4% of your income with a wink and a promise that they would take care of you.

If Social Security was a program being sold to the public by an investment company the company would be shut down and the people involved in the scam would rightfully be locked away for life.

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

“95% of the taxes paid to the fed govt are paid by less than 2% of the people. “

Doesn’t that mean that those 2% also get 95% of the $$$$$?

Hmmmmmmm.

By Copyleft

June 6, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

You’re right, Ray. We should be grateful for the crumbs our overlords let fall our way. After all, they have such a heavy tax burden! (That comes from having all the wealth, by the way.)

Heck, “equality” was just one of those revolutionary buzzwords back in the Founding Fathers’ day. It’s just SO 18th-century, don’tcha think?

By Goldie is an Oldie

June 6, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/05/campaign.wrap/index.html Here Goldie, America is ready for Obama…..BWHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHA Here is the first sign your racist, unAMerican, non-experienced candidate is in a tight race with McCain. You speak for America, BWHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA, I guess from now on when you use terms like America is tired, you need to say the liberal garbage side that states opinons as facts are tired.

By RB from Gwinnett

June 6, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

{{{My mom just retired and my dad retired years ago, but there “retirement cash” is dropping considerably, and they have WAY less money than they expected to have.

It’s a huge problem. }}}

It might be problem, Bosch, but please explain how it’s “our” problem. It would appear you have the means and the time to take care of your family, so why are you telling us about your family’s problems. Take care of your own.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Goldie 9:30

I’ll delay going out for this.

Why do ultraliberals have such a thing with cutesy names? If applied to some of their constituent groups they complain loudly, portraying them as racial/gender/pick your category demeaning statements. Is it a power thing? An attempt at humiliation?

Interesting, coming from a liberal.

Thank you for the clarification in saying Pres Obama would use force as a last resort to keep Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. But if you’ll review the exchange from yesterday, perhaps you can see how my impression was that you would not even allow that a Pres Obama would use American military force, particularly nukes, particularly in the Middle East, particularly in Iran.

So it’s settled, then. If diplomacy, cooperation with allies, embargoes, inspections, etc fail, and Iran conducts a nuke test explosion, well, Pres Obama has said it won’t happen again and that he’ll do whatever is necessary to eliminate them as a threat and their nukes. And since the other options have already failed, that means he’ll use the military.

I just hope Pres Obama wouldn’t send in ground forces to “secure” the site and capture the weapons. What a mess that’d be. Options at that point do get severely limited.

By Goldie is an Oldie

June 6, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/05/campaign.wrap/index.html Here Goldie, America is ready for Obama…..BWHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHA Here is the first sign your racist, unAMerican, non-experienced candidate is in a tight race with McCain. You speak for America, BWHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA, I guess from now on when you use terms like America is tired, you need to say the liberal garbage side that states opinons as facts are tired.

By RB from Gwinnett

June 6, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

{{{My mom just retired and my dad retired years ago, but there “retirement cash” is dropping considerably, and they have WAY less money than they expected to have.

It’s a huge problem. }}}

It might be problem, Bosch, but please explain how it’s “our” problem. It would appear you have the means and the time to take care of your family, so why are you telling us about your family’s problems. Take care of your own.

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

{{{{Doesn’t that mean that those 2% also get 95% of the $$$$$?}}}}

Now somebody would have to be an absolute fool to make that statement, but it is ITFS after all. And before you start squealing, RB’s statement that if half the zip codes are decreasing in value than it means the other half is increasing is just as stupid.

little newsie namejacker,

Look up progressive taxation.

Hmmmmmmmm

Sorry, RB, but it could just as easily mean some of the other zip codes are stagnant.

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

“Obama traveled to a rally in northern Virginia’s D.C. suburbs, then headed back to his hometown of Chicago to take the weekend off. He’s looking forward to “a date” tonight with his wife, Michelle, a round of golf on Saturday (“the best I can do is the low 80s,” Obama said) and a bike ride with his children on Sunday.

Not that he is expecting it to be entirely relaxing. On Saturday night, Obama will face a challenge familiar to many American parents: Eight 7-year-olds are due at his house for a birthday sleepover in honor of his daughter, Sasha.

“These kids are planning to make pizza so who knows what our kitchen will look like,” Obama said. “They shouldn’t call these sleepovers. They should call them wake-overs.”

GOOD HUSBAND AND FATHER

BRILLIANT TOO

NO WONDER RIGHT WING HEADS EXPLODE

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

AJC Management/DUH,

Did I say more government was the answer? No, I didn’t. I didn’t say what the answer is.

Here’s my scenario - or rather my relatives’ scenario:

Been retired for 25 years - lived very, very comfortably until this year - both in their 90s. The cost of caring for them has sky-rocketed and now they are living with a negative budget.

It’s sad that you read everything into “liberals are bad.” What a sad world you must live in.

Many people can’t afford to sock away 10% of their income - it’s just a plain fact.

Again, the problem is the COST of healthcare. The solution? ????

By Ray

June 6, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Copy left and in the news,

Did it ever occur to you that the “evil rich” might have WORKED for what they have instead of depending on entitlements and handouts? You are just as much of a socialist as your wonder boy. And you can vote!

By The citizens of the United States of America

June 6, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC: Please go away. No one reads your tripe. You are a waste of computer space. You say the same crap day after day. Your ego far excedes your contribution to this blog. As we see it, you are only good for two things: good for nothing and good for a bad example. PLEASE GO AWAY, and we mean that in a good way.

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

I thought you Repugs just hated Flip-Floppers?

“I don’t think the president has the right to disobey any law,” Mr. McCain replied. — David Golove, a New York University law professor who specializes in executive power issues, said that while the language used by Mr. McCain in his answers six months ago was imprecise, the recent statement by Mr. Holtz-Eakin “seems to contradict precisely what he said earlier.”

How can any American tell where McBush stands on law-breaker issues, national security, torture, taxes, etc… when he changes his position week after week???

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Obama is going to turn eight seven year olds loose in his kitchen to make their own pizza, which means sharp instruments and hot ovens, and newsie calls that good parenting?

Geez

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

{{Did it ever occur to you that the “evil rich” might have WORKED for what they have instead of depending on entitlements and handouts?}}

Ray @ 9:58 — and I’ll bet you just hate those “evil” CEOs with the Big Oil companies who have no problem taking their gov’t ENTITLEMENTS AND HANDOUTS IN THE BILLIONS OF $$$? Where’s your outrage about those corporate WELFARE KINGS just sucking BILLIONS from YOUR TAX $$$???

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

RW,

The problem is that it is still not enough to cover health care costs. As people live longer and costs go up, even those who can afford 10%-12% - and let’s face it, many can’t - they still can’t afford it.

By Copyleft

June 6, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Clarification, Paul: You can’t say “all other options have failed” if they were never even tried.

And Bush made no attempt to continue the (very SUCCESSFUL) containment option with Saddam; he rushed right into what should have been the last resort, military action.

Now, with Obama and Iran, we have a fresh opportunity to get things right. Ruling out diplomacy, sanctions, containment, etc., at the outset would just send us down the same doomed, failed path that we took with Iraq.

Fortunately, we’ll have a smarter president in place for this one.

By RB from Gwinnett

June 6, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

By RW-(the original)9:51 AM

RW, if you’ll look at the data, anything south of even was called a decline, even at 1% decline which seems a bit meaningless. I would call that stagnant, not a decline. If they’re going to include 1% declines in the declining half, I’d say it’s pretty safe to assume the other half is increasing; even if only slightly. As usual, you have to pay attention to the facts as represented by numbers to avoid letting the headline tell the story.

By RB from Gwinnett

June 6, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

By RW-(the original)9:51 AM

RW, if you’ll look at the data, anything south of even was called a decline, even at 1% decline which seems a bit meaningless. I would call that stagnant, not a decline. If they’re going to include 1% declines in the declining half, I’d say it’s pretty safe to assume the other half is increasing; even if only slightly. As usual, you have to pay attention to the facts as represented by numbers to avoid letting the headline tell the story.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Copyleft 10:12

I was discussing a future scenario involving Pres Obama and an Iran that, despite all our efforts, developed a nuke weapon. It was in the context of Candidate Obama saying he’d not “let” that happen and would do “anything” to keep it from happening.

So let’s hope he learned the lessons of Iraq for this scenario.

I won’t address this to anyone in particular, but this discussion, to borrow from an earlier round of questions and accusations directed against a Republican Administration:

What right does the US have to dictate to another country what they do? Who are we to prohibit them from developing the same weapons we’ve had for 60 years? By what right do we tell them if they don’t do what we want we’ll consider doing ANYTHING to them to enforce our will?

Anyone?

“No wonder ideologue heads explode”

By getalife

June 6, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Yesterday, we learned the proof w and cheney lied into a needless war. They have video proof of torture and illegal spying on Americans.

They should ask Obama why his spineless party thinks they are above the law and has done nothing.

Are the spineless dems going to let w declare victory in this war crime with his secret deal with Iraq?

Are they going to cave on telcom immunity?

Are they going to allow the world court to hold them accountable for torture?

WTF are they doing?

By Paul

June 6, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

getalife 10:28

“WTF are they doing?”

Posturing and saying whatever they need to to win the next election.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch June 6, 2008 9:57 AM AJC Management/DUH, Did I say more government was the answer? No, I didn’t. I didn’t say what the answer is.}}}}

Bosch: Which presidential candidate are you for?

{{{{It’s sad that you read everything into “liberals are bad.” What a sad world you must live in.}}}}

Bosch: Which political party blatantly campaigns on growing government by several trillion dollars, thereby increasing the taxes you pay?

{{{{Many people can’t afford to sock away 10% of their income - it’s just a plain fact.}}}}

Bosch: The “average” person pays about 33% of their income for taxes, gosh, if the government gave it back to them……

{{{{Again, the problem is the COST of healthcare. The solution? ????}}}}

Bosch: Which political party ran a vice presidential candidate that has sued the health care industry for no good reason other than to extract a judgment against them, which in turn raises costs for everyone else?

Are you really this ignorant?

~~~~~

{{{{By The citizens of the United States of America June 6, 2008 10:02 AM AJC/DNC: Please go away. No one reads your tripe. You are a waste of computer space. You say the same crap day after day. Your ego far excedes your contribution to this blog. As we see it, you are only good for two things: good for nothing and good for a bad example. PLEASE GO AWAY, and we mean that in a good way.}}}}

Struck a nerve, did I?

By MorningStar

June 6, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

By IN THE NEWS June 6, 2008 8:15 AM

Thanks for the chuckle of the day ITN. I hope the cleaning facility empties McCain’s pockets. Did you see that wipe and swipe with the hankie? Yuk. Shudda done that prior to parading in front of the camera.

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Paul,

“What right does the US have to dictate to another country what they do? Who are we to prohibit them from developing the same weapons we’ve had for 60 years? By what right do we tell them if they don’t do what we want we’ll consider doing ANYTHING to them to enforce our will”

I asked that yesterday - got no response.

But I posed it as:

Why can some countries have nuclear weapons and others can’t?

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Did anyone see Scott McClellan’s interview by Bill O’Reilly earlier this week?

Fox Noise transcript here

{{MCCLELLAN: Well, look at the nuclear intelligence. There wasn’t as high a confidence with the nuclear intelligence.

O’REILLY: That, stay with WMDs right now.

MCCLELLAN: That is WMD. That is WMD.

O’REILLY: OK, but that’s what Powell…

MCCLELLAN: No, that is…

O’REILLY: That’s not what Colin Powell presented. He presented…

MCCLELLAN: So does that constitute a grave and gathering danger to the United States? Do you think we were about to be attacked by Iraq?

O’REILLY: No, I don’t. But I know that John Kerry, Al Gore…}}

Fox Noise never ceases to amaze with their propaganda, and why they still keep O’Reilly on air is even more amazing — he doesn’t even know that nuclear weapons are considered “WMD”…

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

AJC/DUH,

I know that you live in a world where everything is black and white, I don’t.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Bosch

I tried to touch on that. But as regards that question, it hits a bit too close to home for some who’ve spent years lambasting Pres Bush and this administration for intervention, war, going it alone, not consulting with others, imposing our will on others…

To have their Presidential candidate say we’ll impose our will on another sovereign country regardless of what they want.

This is what happens when one adheres to ideology, not principles.

Off to buy a saw to take care of a limb that cracked. On a tree, that is.

By Steven Daedalus

June 6, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Question for the ages. Why isn’t George W. Bush in jail?

By Midori

June 6, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

“So George and I went up in the helicopter and for three hours his jaw was dropping. Then I said, ‘George, before we finish I have to show you one positive thing because I can’t send you back to Washington to produce a story that shows nothing but devastation and disaster.’ So I told the pilot to tack right so I can show George the 17th Street Canal and the work that was going on there. I swear as my name is Mary Landrieu I thought that what I saw with the president was still there — people working, trucks, sandbags, everything. Then I looked down and saw one little crane. It was like someone took a knife and stabbed me through my heart. I lost it.” There, in the cabin of the helicopter, as they flew above the breached canal below them, Landrieu sat devastated.

“I could not believe that the president of the United States, staged by Karl Rove himself, had come down to the city of New Orleans and basically put up a stage prop. It was like you had gone to a studio in California and filmed a movie. They put the props up and the minute we were gone they took them down. All the dump trucks were gone. All the Coast Guard people were gone. It was an empty spot with one little crane. It was the saddest thing I have ever seen in my life. At that moment I knew what was going on and I’ve been a changed woman ever since. It truly changed my life.”

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

RB,

If they counted 1% as a decline then I would agree with you. I didn’t think even the AJC could be that dishonest.

Bosch,

12.4% of your overall wage package is taken by the government right now just for Social Security. Even more is taken for Medicare. You could even make it mandatory if you wanted, but if that money was in a private account bearing interest for your retirement you would have plenty of money. Your idiotic argument that people can’t afford to save that amount is ridiculous since it’s being taken from them already.

Sorry to post and run, but as a wise man once said. Those golf balls aren’t going to hit themselves.

See y’all at Happy Hour!

By getalife

June 6, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

So where is the justice Paul?

Should we open up the prisons and let them out too?

This is not a freaking blow job we are talking about.

This is mass murder.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Goldie

You mean this part of the transcript before your quote? The part where McClellan blamed the press for not being aggressive enough? Where BOR lays out what the press had? Sounds like he understands the difference. And the difference between optional and unnecessary. And packaging and interpretation.

O’REILLY: And you’re entitled to it. You’re an author. But when you have a series of events where the American people, me, because I was sitting here analyzing this thing. I was looking at it. And you say well the press wasn’t aggressive enough.

I’m looking at The New York Times having front page stories by Judith Miller, saying that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. I had George Tenet on this program. You know what Tenet told me. What did he tell me?

MCCLELLAN: About the weapons of mass destruction.

O’REILLY: Yes, what did he tell me?

MCCLELLAN: That I don’t know exactly what he told you, but he told you that, you know, he stood by the intelligence.

O’REILLY: Do you want to know exactly what he told me? Roll the tape.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE TENET, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: Let me say something very clearly to everybody. We believed he had weapons of mass destruction.

O’REILLY: You believed it, why? Specifically you?

TENET: I believed it going back to my time in the Clinton administration when we were concerned about Iraq. I believed on the basis of 10 years of following it, data that we’d seen, his deception, his denial, his thwarting of the U.N. I believed it in my core that he had it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O’REILLY: All right, now, if the director of the CIA believes it, British intelligence believes it, John Kerry believes it, Hillary Clinton believes it, and President Clinton believes it, if they all believed Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, sir, don’t you have a nerve accusing me of not being vigilant enough? Who am I supposed to believe? I have got The New York Times, I got the president, I got the prime minister, I got the former president.

MCCLELLAN: Well, let’s look at the record. I mean, you go back and look at the record. First of all, the intelligence was wrong. Now, they’ve looked at whether or not the intelligence analysts were pressured to change intelligence and found nothing there. But then there’s the questio

By Paul

June 6, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

MCCLELLAN: Well, let’s look at the record. I mean, you go back and look at the record. First of all, the intelligence was wrong. Now, they’ve looked at whether or not the intelligence analysts were pressured to change intelligence and found nothing there. But then there’s the question of how the intelligence was used to make the case.

And my view is going back and looking at it, that it was packaged together in a way that made it sound more grave, more urgent, and more serious than it was. And I think if you go — you add the nuclear threat and got the intelligence that was combined together, high — or intelligence high confidence with intelligence. Wait, wait…

O’REILLY: But you’re coming to this conclusion, all right, seven years after the fact. I mean, look, if the president, two presidents of the United States sitting, the former CIA guy who works with both presidents, Tony Blair, and The New York Times all tell me and you he got them. We can’t say no, he doesn’t.

MCCLELLAN: Well, look at the nuclear intelligence. There wasn’t as high a confidence with the nuclear intelligence.

O’REILLY: That stay with WMDs right now.

MCCLELLAN: That is WMD. That is WMD.

O’REILLY: OK, but that’s what Powell…

This is where you started your quote.

By Midori

June 6, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Yesterday, the UK Independent reported that the Bush administration is trying to push a secret deal to “perpetuate the American military occupation of Iraq indefinitely.” Today, the paper has more troubling details about the Bush administration’s shady tactics:

The US is holding hostage some $50bn (£25bn) of Iraq’s money in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to pressure the Iraqi government into signing an agreement seen by many Iraqis as prolonging the US occupation indefinitely, according to information leaked to The Independent.

US negotiators are using the existence of $20bn in outstanding court judgments against Iraq in the US, to pressure their Iraqi counterparts into accepting the terms of the military deal.

The Bush administration is arguing that some of the Iraqi funds would lose immunity protection if the U.N. mandate “is not replaced by the new agreement.” But the Washington Post reports today that the Iraqi government may request an extension of the mandate. Juan Cole and Spencer Ackerman have more.

By Midori

June 6, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Paul,

O’Reilly is a retard AND an idiot.

Since when are nuclear weapons not WMD?

By Scoreboard

June 6, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Unemployment rate way up…

Stock Market way down

Oil way up

Temperature way up

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Midori @ 11:06 — LMAO over and over again! He’s so full of himself and doesn’t even understand the meaning of WMD…

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Midori — I’m also amazed at the people who still continue to makes excuses for O’Reilly!

By bon scott

June 6, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Bosch, your compassion is noteworthy, as I have elderly relatives in the same boat. They DID save. They suffered through the Depression. They’re in their 80s. The present astronomical cost of basic essentials leave them helpless. Promises that were made to them have turned out to be worthless.

It takes a selfish and inhumane government AND people to basically tell these people, “go live under a bridge. You’ll get used to it.”

RW, you are right. Social Security is SUCH a scam. I know I’ll never get back the money I put into it. Forget interest. I won’t even get back my principal “investment”. It’s all been “borrowed” by DC to make “ends meet”. What a Ponzi scheme. But your criticism evades the basic problem. What are we going to do with these golden agers who can’t even afford dog food for themselves? Where is our compassion and (dare I say it) Christianity?

Bosch is right. They deserve better. Yes, even from Washington.

Midori, nice to see you.

Here’s an interesting Washington Post article about how long we’re going to be in Iraq

Somehow, I think they’re are better things we could be spending tax dollars on… like medical care and the elderly. Just for starters.

The invasion of Iraq has been the biggest economic and foreign policy blunder in US history. Thanks, George, Shotgun Dick, and two gun Rove….

By getalife

June 6, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

And the cons in Congress are blocking everything spewing there is no money but will continue the war crimes in Iraq.

These are the ones that gullible Americans mindlessly support,trust and reelect.

Our country has turned into one large mental asylum.

By MorningStar

June 6, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

By Bosch June 6, 2008 8:56 AM cost of caring for the elderly far outweighs any pensions, Medicare, Social Security payments they receive.

Bosch, the wingnuts on this blog who decry Social Security, Medicare etc. live in a dream world. These nuts have no conception of the real world. Nor do they care. They have their little pi$chy job in a controlled environment, and it’s an “I’ve got mine, and if you weren’t sorry” attitude.

These attitudes remind me of individuals who criticize other parents when a child goes wrong. Of course it’s a different story when little thuglet or thugette is caught in the act, so to speak. Always a but, but, but this is different when their own has a problem.

Those who don’t need their Social Security are in the minority. But no use arguing with these fools. There’s nothing wrong with the program as it stands, it just needs to be left alone for what was intended!

A country is so low it doesn’t care for the needy, the ill, the children and elderly, has become lower than the lowest scum. There’s a faction out there who don’t care, and unfortunately many are on the front pews of the church on Sunday morning.

In fact, I know some of them! Meanspirited individuals they are, and I’d be a little scared about the hereafter if I were in their meanspirited shoes.

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

bon scott,

great post.

I don’t think of Social Security so much as a scam, I think of it as outdated. It definitely needs revamping.

What most plans never address is the cost and wasteful spending. And, to be honest, one of the biggest problems I have with privitization of anything is I don’t trust corporations to do the right thing - it’s always profit before people.

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Morningstar,

Yes, another thing that many don’t take into effect is the poor and low income families. Social Security is all they have.

The real world of many is not as cushy a picture, and it’s not due to laziness or bad planning.

By mm

June 6, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

McCain backs Bush Wiretaps

Yep, he promises more of the same.

By mm

June 6, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

McCain twice voted against Katrina probe

Just like Bush, McCain can’t tell the truth.

And the rest of the wingnuts shot it down.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

{{{{By MorningStar June 6, 2008 12:03 PM Bosch, the wingnuts on this blog who decry Social Security, Medicare etc. live in a dream world.}}}}

Dream world, eh?

{{{{By Bosch June 6, 2008 8:56 AM The baby boomers are getting old - I look in on old relatives every day - get their groceries, pay their bills, drink tea with them, etc. These relatives of mine live on a fixed income (worked their entire lives, retired) and many of you who don’t have older relatives yet will soon find out, the cost of caring for the elderly far outweighs any pensions, Medicare, Social Security payments they receive.}}}}

Gee, I wonder what I have been saying?

What a bunch of dimwits you liberals really are, let’s see, we cannot afford social security as it is now, so what do you think you can squeeze out of them, a 200% raise, no, I forgot, this is pinko fantasy land, let’s go for a 1000% increase.

Stupid, foaming morons, the same morons in here last week harping like seals on the federal deficit, ignorant wards of state, mental invalids.

Keep banking on the government, you parasites, and then whine about the poverty you are mired in, great plan for your lives, losers.

Total losers.

Oh, and raise taxes for “global warming” junk science, that’ll help.

By Midori

June 6, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Bon Scott — always a pleasure to see you :)

Goldie - I don’t know who’s dumber — Bill-o or his cheerleader squad :)

By MorningStar

June 6, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

By Bosch June 6, 2008 12:21 PM Morningstar, Yes, another thing that many don’t take into effect is the poor and low income families. Social Security is all they have.

Correct. I personally know several families who have worked and saved their entire lives, but with the rising cost of health care, and loss of a job prior to retirement, they have gigantic problems.

Some don’t understand there’s a world of working poor out there, and there needs to be a way they can afford health care and survive after retirement.

Personally, I see no problem with the present social security plan, it just needs to be shored up and LEFT ALONE for what it was intended.

As for health care, we need someone with enough brains to look at the best of what we have, what Canada has, what other countries have and come up with a workable solution.

I personally believe most people want to work. Of course, we’ll always have the lazy and sorry, but do we let the children go. Oops, I’m not about to get on that soap box again. Out for the afternoon.

I don’t wish to shirk Or offend any jerks But I must go to work So that in my old age I may (hopefully) enjoy a few perks!

By Midori

June 6, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Andy just lives in a dream - never mind the world.

He has the gall to call someone “stupid”? “foaming”??

LMAO!!!!

By Carl

June 6, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

State Of The Nation. Have Bush, McShame, the Repunks put this country into great shape, or what!?!

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

McBush is definitely not “A Leader we can believe in” — who does he think he’s kiddin’? Oh, that’s right — he’s fooled the Repugs this year.

Coziness with Lobbyists - We all know that McCain likes to tout himself as a “maverick.” But the truth is, McCain was forced to reinvent himself as a “maverick” because he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He was one of five Senators investigated for corruption in the Keating scandal of 1989, in which it was alleged that (in return for money and other favors) McCain sought to have the government ease off its investigation of savings and loan chairman Charles Keating.

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Corporate CEOs continue with their multi-MILLION $$$ bonuses and payouts, and their employees keep getting the shaft:

Jobless rate jumped to 5.5 percent in May — Increase biggest rise since `86, payrolls cut by 49,000

By Repug VP Man

June 6, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

“What a waste it is to lose one’s mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is.” (sic)

By Copyleft

June 6, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

MorningStar: Don’t sweat it. Remember, their indifference to the problems of the real world is why the Republicans are LOSING!

And that, in turn, means things for America are looking up, despite the right-wingers’ laughable best efforts.

By getalife

June 6, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Oil up 9 bucks today. Market crashing.

Time for the gop to act to save corporate with more billions.

w to speak on the oil crises at 2:00.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Midori 11:06

McClellan charged the press with not doing its duty as one of the reasons we went to war.

O’Reilly disputed that. That’s what the exchange was about. WMDs include chem, bio, and nuke. But it was McClellan who encountered difficulty and veered off with nukes. Most people who listened were aware that to take out nukes when discussing WMDs means chem and nerve agents.

Which is what the prior references with Tenet were about. Not nukes. I notice you aren’t upset about the implications of including nukes in the earlier reference.

Goldie

Fox likely keeps him on because his numbers blow away his competition.

So do I understand correctly - you both side with McClellan that the press was derelect? Including the NY Times?

Oh, and do you both think those who appear on O’Reilly are liars, not to be trusted?

By Jesus

June 6, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By RB from Gwinnett

June 6, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Wouldn’t all you whiny loser liberals time and resources be much better spent volunteering at an old folks home or helping poor people fix up their homes or shopping for groceries than sitting here whining all day long about how pathetic it is to live in the greatest country on earth? I mean, at what point do you get off your sorry a@@es and do something useful and productive instead of useless whining and begging for politicians to do with other people’s money what you are unwilling to do with your own time an money? If you care about the poor, go help them. There must be 1,000 charities in the ATL area that would love your money or your time. Go make a difference.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife June 6, 2008 1:50 PM Oil up 9 bucks today. Market crashing. Time for the gop to act to save corporate with more billions.}}}}

al-Gitmo: Not necessary, the “corporations” are saving their own billions as we speak, with the threat of a lib president and a lib Congress, they are pulling their cash out of the markets and putting it where the libs can’t get at it.

Like I am.

Tax this, you sick mofos.

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Paul,

3:00 - Scifi.com

10 minute sneak peak of tonight’s BSG episode.

By getalife

June 6, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Well Andy,

He spewed he wanted to make tax cuts permanant and drill.

Both will not happen and he should resign in disgrace.

Then they should face war crime trials and treason.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Thanks. Any bets?

BTW - I’m continually amazed at people who shoot the messenger and ignore the message. Must start early - making fun of others because of how they look or talk - esp if they were the ones getting good grades or were in some other way successful.

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

AmVet if you are out there somewhere or check in later —-

ESPN2 and ESPN Classic will be showing the Euro 2008 games.

Here’s the schedule:

How exciting - the Bosches will be in soccer heaven this weekend!

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I’m placing bets right now on the Euro 2008 games. Germany is favored to win - well, duh!

“I’m continually amazed at people who shoot the messenger and ignore the message”

Yeah, me too.

But Battlestar? Bets? That’s a good point about one of the babies being number 12 - but damn, that would be such a let down if it was! I want mystery and intrigue and intensity. And I want it now!

Since you told me that about none of the folks in the picture (you know which picture I’m talking about….with the red dress, and fire, and oh, my mind got carried away) are not one of the final 5, I think it’s Gaita, …….. or Dualla,………. or Zarek. OH hell, I just wish they’d hurry up and tell us, and let this thing unfold. Oh, but then it would be over, nevermind.

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Materazzi still seeking respect

Pigs don’t deserve respect.

By IN THE NEWS

June 6, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

BARNEY WRITES TELL ALL BOOK!!!!

By mm

June 6, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

RB, RW, DUH,

You three are the biggest losers I’ve ever seen in my life.

You get on this blog every day and blame liberals for all the problems America faces.

Your idol GWB has flushed this country down the toilet, and just like a good little Bushbot, you blame the Democrats.

Your childish name calling and tired old cliches are pathetic. Grow up.

I guess the suicide hotline will be busy in November after the Obama landslide.

The government should let @ssholes like you opt out of paying taxes, then strip you of all city, county, state, and federal government services.

They should put all of you and your ilk on an island (like Escape from New York) where you have no police protection, no fire protection, no protection from Al Quaeda, no schools, no right to vote, no corporate welfare, no border protection, etc.

You are what a person would find on the bottom of their shoes if they walked around a garbage dump.

Scum.

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Since none of you care about soccer - and I know the suspense is killing you (sarc) I’ll go ahead and show you who the winners of the Euro 2008 will be:

The BIG GERMAN MACHINE!!!

By Midori

June 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

did you watch Game one of the NBA championships last night? Boston is looking good!!!

mm - you’ve got to see this. you’ll split a gut from laughing

By Midori

June 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

did you watch Game one of the NBA championships last night? Boston is looking good!!!

mm - you’ve got to see this. you’ll split a gut from laughing

By Paul

June 6, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Bosch

That was a mighty fast ten minutes.

By Robin

June 6, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Homo-hater (2:08); What a joke. You have NOTHING to “tax,’ nothing to “pull out” (That’s for certain). You are but another loud-mouthed Republiscum insect and you display that every day here. You sweet thing.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

Aahhh, yes, thee mind of a dimwit kult member:

{{{{By mm June 6, 2008 2:54 PM Your childish name calling and tired old cliches are pathetic. Grow up.}}}}

{{{{The government should let @ssholes like you}}}}

{{{{Scum.}}}}

Feel better now, mmoron?

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Yeah. Weird. Laura lay a dying.

Midori,

I watched a little bit of it. I was busy having cocktails on the porch last night - and afterwards couldn’t concentrate on the game too much - the players were kind of wobbly :-)

By Paul

June 6, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Germany. But anything can happen.

Didja notice in the sneak peek - Laura’s old counselor? Hmmmmmm. Guiding her again.

‘Course, it’d be great if 12 was from the Last Supper pic (Number 12, 12 Apostles, but 12 plus Jesus is 13, then the traitor Judas left, leaving 12; the BSG pic, there are 12, so has one left and is to return?) one of the ones we can see, and the irate fans acost Moore, who explains

“I lied.”

By Heinrich

June 6, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Bosch @ 2:54. Does that mean that The Fuhrer is rising once more?? But don’t bother him at this very moment - as he is in the process of retraining and dumbing-down at the White House. Achtung!

By Repug VP Man

June 6, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

“ONE word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice-president, and that word is ‘to be prepared.’” (sic) (12/06/89)

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Now THAT would be a good plot twist - maybe it’s BILLY!!! I liked Billy, I hated it when he died. He didn’t deserve that.

Okay, now I’m going to have to think back to whose died.

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Midori,

THAT was funny. That poor guy (not) - that lady interviewing him looked nervous.

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Midori @ 3:06 — I split my gut viewing that link, especially that horrible Repug-style rug on his head!

By Dee De Deeee

June 6, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Bosch and Paul, have you 2 ever considered Instant Messaging? Good God nobody cares, have a little respect for this blog.

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Paul,

OR Cali!!! Getting sucked out of an airlock must really, well, suck, but at least you’d die quick.

It might make sense for her to be the last Cylon since she’s the mom, but she just seemed so plain, but maybe that was a ploy to make us THINK she was just some Plain Jane when really she is the Cylon Queen, now wouldn’t that be crazy.

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

{{the press was derelect? Including the NY Times?}}

Paul @ 1:58 — anyone who’s been paying attention the last 5 years knows what happened with Judith Miller, Dick Cheney, and the NY Times… I rest my case.

By Copyleft

June 6, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Quoted from RB, I swear I’m not making this up: “I mean, at what point do you get off your sorry a@@es and do something useful and productive…”

…says the guy Posting on a Political Blog!

(snicker)

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Let me just say to all of you bloggers who don’t watch the new Battlestar Galactica:

You are missing one hell of a GREAT TV show.

Paul and I — we know. We know things.

There, I feel better saying that. As RW said last night, that’s my public service announcement for the day.

Carry on.

Back to regularly scheduled programming.

By Jake

June 6, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Heinrich: Es existiert artikel mit dem namen “White House Fuhrer.” Ist trogenlager!

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Dee De Deeee,

It’s all code messages that only Paul and I know. We actually work for the government to monitor blogging activity, and report back to headquarters those bloggers we think might be terrorists, this is how we communicate our reports to one another.

It’s okay to tell you this because you don’t know what we’re saying and you’d never to be able to crack our codes. You know, because we’re so brilliant and all.

So carry on bloggers.

By AmVet

June 6, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Bosch, thanks for the link on the Euro 2008!

I watched some of the recent USA- Spain match.

And granted, I’m just a causal fan of soccer, but I still enjoy the hell out of some of the matches.

In fact, I’ve grown so tired of so many mainline “American” sports it will be a refreshing change…

Schweeeet!

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Amvet,

You’re welcome - I’m doing my part to enlighten the country on the joys of the beautiful game.

What other sport can you sing, play the drum, dance, get drunk and fight?

It’s wonderful!

Okay, I just read where oil is up $10/barrel.

That’s it, I’m buying a golf cart.

RW,

Seriously, where’s a good place to buy a golf cart?

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

How much evidence do the Dubya-enablers need before they own up to the facts of how the media was complicit and/or threatened before our invasion of Iraq?

CBS and Katie Couric were beaten back from asking questions before the invasion

By AmVet

June 6, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Bosch, I would imagine actually attending a match would be tremendous fun!

Kinda like going to the Olympics when they were here. Tons of people from all over the globe, all (or at least most) enjoying the hell out of each other, even if we couldn’t understand a word the other was saying!

I can hardly wait for the 2008 Summer Games!

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Part of the interview between Katie Couric and Scott McClellan:

{{Katie Couric: Weren’t you the ultimate complicit enabler, though? I asked a tough question before the Iraq War and you personally called an executive at NBC News and you threatened to deny access to us.

McClellan: I did?

Couric: Yes, you did, once the war began.

McClellan: Me personally? I don’t, I don’t remember that.

Couric: But did you strong-arm people into not questioning the administration?

McClellan: My style usually wasn’t that way.

Couric: Well, it was you who made the call.

McClellan: I just, I just don’t remember that. That may be but I certainly don’t remember that incident. In terms of my style of working with reporters, it was usually straightforward when we were dealing with each other; I think I had that reputation with White House reporters. I just don’t recall that specific incident. }}

By Goldie

June 6, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

The excuses coming from the Bush-kissers about how and why they lied us into their invasion of Iraq — it reminds me of the arguments I had with my Dad back in the ’70s about what Nixon was doing. Poor ole Dad bought into Nixon’s excuses that “the media is making up these stories about me”… and then when the evidence was overwhelming and Nixon had to resign or get impeached, my Dad cried because he just could not believe that he’d been duped. So very sad. I never forgave Nixon for making my Dad cry.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Goldie 3:48

Just wondering. For the record, I think our “press” is generally pretty poor. Real reporters, real investigators - ‘gotcha’ is not a substitute for good journalism.

Bosch 3:51

I second that.

Deedee - “respect for this blog” ohhhh, one could go so many places with that.

Bosch - whatcha say, after episode 12, our lead post of the day will be a retro episode analysis - beginning with season 1?

I just wanted to hear Dee de scream..

Bosch 4:00

I thought that was classified? You outed us? Are you really Cheney? Or Armitage?

Goldie 4:28

“beaten back” = weak. Not doing their jobs.

4:33 so they caved? So much for the guardians of our freedoms.

By Midori

June 6, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Wow, Goldie!! what a story @ 4:38.

and I’m glad you liked the helmet-hair video :)

By Bosch

June 6, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Oh, I think an episode analysis is a great idea! I’ll start working on it this weekend.

It’s okay let the bloggers know what we do, you know, with the new administration coming, we are going to have to be more transparent - and it’s better to just be honest.

AmVet,

I didn’t get to go to the Olympics, the youngest Boschkin was born during that time.

I can’t wait for the Olympics either - that is one of the joys of my life.

I’m out for a while - I hope to be back before close, if not, my Friday wish is for a pleasant weekend to be had by all!

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

How truly dim these liberals can really be:

{{{{By Goldie June 6, 2008 4:33 PM Katie Couric: Weren’t you the ultimate complicit enabler, though? I asked a tough question before the Iraq War and you personally called an executive at NBC News and you threatened to deny access to us.}}}}

—————>”I did?”<——————

Hahahahaha.

McClellan: Thanks, Katie. Schhhhhhhllllleeeeeeepppppppp.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Goldie

Well, while you and I were having our back and forth over what Obama would do at the brink, seems we missed the real story from his speech.

Seems the Arab/Palestinian world is all in an uproar over his remarks - that Jerusalem should not be divided in any Israeli-Palestinian peace pact.

In addition to learning about preconditions for talks, it appears he’s also learning about not showing your hand before talks.

Oh well, there’s still six months before the job starts - plenty of time to learn -

Link: Obama defends Jerusalem remarks

By AmVet

June 6, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

The ever popular myth of the liberal media.

IMHO they gave this administration pretty much a total pass. ESPECIALLY regarding the bungled invasion/occupation of Iraq.

Take Faux News for example. I don’t recall the exact numbers now, but immediately after shock and awe out of the first 70 or so talking heads, guess how many were opposed to Bush’s chosen war.

Two.

And they were drowned out by the chickenhawk war drums.

As far as newsworthy, they provide the mindless pablum that their viewers want, I suppose.

And what their in-bed-with-the-DoD multinational owners will let them air…

By Buy Danish

June 6, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

I have a feeling this hilarious Friends parody will be making the rounds this election season.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

AmVet

And the other networks are different, how? (I’m not talking about after the fact jumping on a bandwagon and yelling loudly so you hope no one will remember) - I mean from the start.

I lived in one place - not US - and instead of (loud music) “This is the NBC Nightly News!!! With Brian Williams!!!” it was “tonight the news will be read by Joe Dokes.” Read by. So much for the star.

And they’d bring in analysts who were academics with a background in the area. Not party hacks. So little emphasis on looks. One political analyst was an academic, gave new meaning to the word “homely” - but when she began speaking you couldn’t take your eyes off her. Brilliant analyses.

For you. And Bosch when you return. And N-GA if you peruse this:

Rent the Battle for Algiers. I’ve likely mentioned it before. It’s a documentary film on France’s experience in Algeria and concentrates upon their uprising against the French.

You’d have thought, if at least our Administration and their advisors hadn’t watched it before deciding to invade, at least the boneheads in the Middle East section at State would have. Or the brilliant Army generals who were planning the operation.

Anyhow, it’s not a film for kids.

By AmVet

June 6, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Goldie, that story about your dad and Nixon must have been replayed around the country countless times.

And I am utterly amazed at the similarities between 2008 and 1968.

An immoral duplicitous Republican administration that gave most rational and moral Americans great reasons to mistrust their government, their “leaders” and the Pentagon.

And it is also almost surreal how the willfully blind “conservatives” have not changed virtually one iota since then. Still unevolved and myopic.

There IS one big change now though.

It used to be that most of the ostriches and apologists were older then.

No longer. Since the abomination of the Reagan administration, we now endure equally mindless, equally intolerant, equally reactionary and hyper-gutless “Young Republicans”!

By AmVet

June 6, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Bosch, what a shame you missed the party of a lifetime!

I was there every single moment I could take off and the memories will last a lifetime!

And for the coup de gras, I was in Centennial Park when the bomb went off.

Talk about complete pandemonium!

People running around like chickens with their heads cut off just screaming and crying.

Most had no idea what had happened of course, they just joined in the stampede in every direction. And though I knew it was some sort of explosion (I actually felt a very minor concussive effect) I stood there and calmly weighed my options.

Within moments there were literally dozens and dozens of ambulances, police cars, etc all screaming towards the park.

I had images of the Omni Hotel coming down like the federal building in OKC and thought OK, I guess I better get the hell out of there too.

It was freaking zoo!

The events are pure magic in some cases and the stories so compelling as to make “professional” sports seem incredibly lame…

By @@

June 6, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Why is it that liberal Arab journalists sound like America’s conservative journalists?

(((In an article in the Kuwaiti daily Al-Siyassa, titled “Muslims Against Islam,” Kuwaiti liberal Dr. Ahmad Al-Baghdadi wrote: “In most countries around the world, Muslims broke into Danish Embassies, setting fire to them, and called for a ban on Danish imports… They have also launched a satellite TV channel and organized various committees and institutions, with the sole purpose of defending the Prophet [Muhammad] and the Islamic religion… Have the Muslims ever taken account of the tremendous iniquities they themselves have committed and are still committing against Islam [within and outside] the Islamic countries?)))

(((Similar claims were made by Bahraini columnist Abdallah Al-Ayoubi in an article in the Bahraini daily Akhbar Al-Khaleej:)))

(((“Humane and noble [religious] precepts have been destroyed by extremist ‘Islamic’ movements such as Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and others, that perpetrate hideous crimes against innocent [people] in their own countries as well as in other, non-Muslim, countries… When base, despicable acts are carried out by [Muslim] societies and nations, they cause tremendous harm to [Islamic] religious teachings.)))

(((“This is what happened, for example, as a result of the September 11th crimes against the U.S., and as a result of the attacks in London and Madrid that followed in their wake.)))

Maybe a journalist exchange program is in order.

By AmVet

June 6, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Paul, I in no way, excuse any of the other major news outlets.

They too paraded out chest-pounding talking heads one after the other after the other.

Patriotism, don’t you know?

Actually gutless complicity.

The American free press has been recklessly irresponsible for many decades now. And IMHO totally in collusion with the government.

Otherwise, they would do their job and run a never-ending blistering expose of the corruption and ineptitude in Washington until they forced real substantive change.

Ain’t ever gonna happen though.

As long as they are all owned by Westinghouse, GE and sycophants like Murdoch,etc…

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

I never knew Lyndon Johnson was a Republican. Of course since it came from blowfish I guess I’ll go with my own memory which is that he was a big BiG BIG government Democrat.

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Bosch,

Check with a higher end golf club in an area like Reynolds Plantation that doesn’t have a lot of public courses around them to sell their used carts to. Keep in mind that really high end clubs don’t allow carts at all.

You don’t want to buy one that a municipal course is unloading. As is the old adage, rode hard and put up wet, is fitting for those carts.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

I would like to personally thank any “talking heads” that did back the American and coalition efforts in Iraq, seeing how Iraq is now a constitutional democracy that doesn’t threaten it’s neighbors nor does it have a butcher and rapist lording over it.

You know, the outcome that any normal, well adjusted realist would hope for and want to see, considering the sacrifices made by our brave soldiers to see that outcome through.

Thank you for not throwing everything down the sh!thole and endangering the lives of people all over the world with triumphant terrorism, like these POS liberal surrender monkies would have done.

We will remember and honor those of you who had a spine.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

@@

So would that be “It’s all America’s fault” meets “It’s our fault”?

By Dusty

June 6, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Oh my..Same ol’ stuff..

AmWet, Goldie, Morningstar and, of course, Bosch,dumping on America as usual.

And now … poor old folks ..like the ones lil’ Boschi had to drink tea with..oh my. Before you burst into tears, remember he was calling them the “evil” old folks last week.

But who has time for old folks when you have hockey games to view, BSG to watch, cocktails, blogging and puppies to feed. That must keep house husbands very busy.

Sorry, Paul, you get along with liberals here better than I do. The ones at church are much nicer. We have REAL discussions and no name calling. (Yeah, I know. I slip up too.)

Have a nice weekend, all you…..folks. Bye now..

By Dusty

June 6, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Oh @@ thanks for that Liberal Kuwaiti writer’s piece. Liked what he wrote. I surely do hope he is still alive.

Bye again.

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

finch,

Have you ever heard of food banks, cooperative ministries, senior centers, places of worship, etc?

They will all take donations of food, clothing, money, and time. They also do a far better job of assisting people in need than some government program that’s just waiting to be pillaged by the usual band of criminals. I do recommend you stick with Senior centers if the aged are your primary focus because the others tend to be covered up with able bodied immigrants that don’t seem to know those places are really for those in dire need.

That’s where I park my compassion and my Christian values you mind numbed government loving moron you. And I mean that in the kindest possible way.

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Good afternoon to you too, (m)ental (m)idget.

The full moon isn’t until the 18th this month though. Save yourself so you’ll have the energy to bark at it.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Dusty

“(Yeah, I know. I slip up too.)”

It’s called being human. Have a nice weekend.

AmVet,

Well, you may be interested, last week Fox News had a one-hour special: “Porked: Earmarks for Profit.” Started out with former Speaker Republican Denny Hastert - bought a bunch of land, earmarked a freeway, ran through homes and farms decades old, then sold his land for a multimillion profit.

Then it was on to Dem Kanjorski of Pennsylvania. Gave a million dollar earmark to a nonprofit. Then told the nonprofit head to give contracts to his family ‘cause that’s what the earmark was for.

Then on to the a Calif Republican (hey, this is two Reps and one Dem, where’s the fair and balanced?) with much of the same.

Then on to the House - interviewed Rep Flake from AZ, young Rep crusader against earmarks. Showed how Congressman Boehner’s shafted him and kept him from doing anything meaningful.

So yeah, I’d say some good does come out of the network.

Link: Porked

By @@

June 6, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

(((So would that be “It’s all America’s fault” meets “It’s our fault”?)))

Not sure Paul. It would definitely be a “shifting faultline”. Like…

I go see how negotiations are going and find out there’s internal division in Turkey’s political powers (Murfismo’s Law). The AK Party, Islamist based, is under attack by the secularist party (didn’t bother to recall their name). Seeking to dissolve the AK Party, they are. Anyhoo….

The AK Party is extremely popular with the people due to a thriving economy AND they’re the ones promoting peace negotiations.

Shifting mind gears between ME politics and US politics is difficult for me.

By Buy Danish

June 6, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Wow. Hillary must have picked up on Barry’s idea to meet with terrorists without preconditions.

Osama meets with Hillary

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Just out of curiosity how do mikie’s moonbat(ic)s® feel about Obama loading the press in a plane and sending them to Chicago so he could have a secret date with Hillary at DiFi’s Washington house?

Sounds like openness is one of the first things being thrown out. Not to mention it sounds like a couple of teenagers that live at home borrowing some friends apartment for a quickie.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

AmVet

I see you mentioned GE. You may be interested to know - GE’s doing business with Iran. Even though there are restrictions and Iranian weapons are killing Americans, GE has European subsidiaries and says “we’re just fulfilling existing contracts.” It was a contentious item at their recent shareholder meeting - evidently Immelt said “we are NOT doing business” but neglected to tell the Board about the subsidiaries.

Oh, the story was broken by O’Reilly. And not mentioned elsewhere.

Which is why I listen to him. In spite of his personality. The message, not the messenger.

correction on Hastert: it was a multihundred thousand profit. And the Ethics panel said it was fine. In fact, they said everything cited in the story was just fine, one reason being… ‘cause everyone else was doing it and there wasn’t a law against it!

@@

Did you see where Turkey’s “Supreme Court” overturned the laws permitting Moslem women to wear scarves at universities? Said it went against the country’s secular traditions!

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

While the leftists blog on about how horrible the country is and how they don’t coddled cradle to grave quite enough, I thought I might remind you that today is the 64th anniversary of D-Day

Thank God they didn’t sit around whining about their grocery bill all day.

By @@

June 6, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

Paul:

The headscarf thing is where the whole stink originated. See what I mean!!! The secularists in Turkey are intolerant of religious fre…..e……dom.

Wait a minute.

That IS like our secularists!

But the AK Party wants to offer choices?

I give up…..

By Paul

June 6, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

RW

Fox had a piece last night about Caen, France opening a 9/11 Memorial Museum on the day commemorating D-Day.

In France. Sympathetic to Americans. Didn’t see it mentioned on the other networks.

Link: French 9-11 Memorial

By AmVet

June 6, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

Paul, the free press does pretend to do its job, no doubt. They cannot possibly get away with COMPLETELY shirking their duty.

And it is true, that BOR is a two edged sword. Generally reality challenged and hyper-bigoted but clearly bright and when not stumping for the cretins does some good work.

And make no mistake about it. The average American schmoe could give a tinker’s damn about GE and Iran being buddy buddy.

These guppies are so “conservatively” obedient they will even pretend that the men who run these corporations and who engage in these most disgusting and traitorous behaviors are the good guys in a free market and the “liberal” media that reports this are just a bunch of [fill in the blank]…

But if the MSM was serious about holding the government accountable they would do a helluva lot more than an occasional p&ssy-class expose.

Heads would roll.

Speaking of p&ssies, it looks like the Bushco cockroaches and chickenhawks are all making their final appearance for the week.

The ballerina is begging for yet another final dose of humiliation to get ready for the weekend.

Midori, too bad you missed last weekend at Wooten’s. You’d think {{{ricky retardo}}} would settle for being a flagellant ascetic and getting laughed at repeatedly by various bloggers on ONE blog!

It was absolutely classic and comedic b!tch slapping at it’s best. And all at the expense of one who’s ebay business is apparently hurting! (What can you expect when the misanthrope’s trying to hock a book titled “How I look for holes in the fossil records while combing the deep woods along the second fairway that are lush because there is no global warming”)

It is sad though, how the kid just gladly brings all this on himself needlessly. (Given that the apple never falls far from the tree, how likely is it that his grandad just watched the news reels of Operation Overlord from afar? Very afar)

All in all, VERY bad karma…

And the bleating Daisy needs milking. As usual. She’ll be asking for forgiveness (for us!) on Sunday I’m sure…

And interesting the two different takes on the value of the idiotic talking heads.

It just proves the old adage, one man’s sh!t is another man’s ice cream…

By @@

June 6, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Some of you here keep up with Chuck Schumer, I don’t.

Did he really say this?

Senator Schumer is coming under sharp criticism from the government of the Czech Republic and from Polish-American and Romanian-American leaders in America after writing an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal suggesting that America should accommodate what he called Prime Minister Putin’s “dream of eventually restoring Russian hegemony over Eastern Europe.”

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Paul,

What struck me as the most odd thing about the French 9/11 Memorial was that they have the largest collection of 9/11 artifacts of anyone. Somehow I would have thought a New York Memorial would have that, but I guess they were too busy trying to get an exhibit in there that said 9/11 was, as Obama’s now unretired preacher might say, America’s chickens coming home to roost.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management 5:38

Which is why I’ve pointed out that what is IS different from what WAS.

Post-invasion planning was abysmal. Leadership was lacking. But we committed. And once there, when the situation morphed, HOW we got there became MUCH LESS important than “What do we do now?” And THAT took us way too long to figure out.

So we are very fortunate to have a Petraeus (who, by the way, did some of the things McCain was talking about for a long time) who got us out of a rut and gave us a different situation. We were lucky.

It’s kinda like a couple in an arranged marriage. Twenty years later onlookers are still griping about how horrible it was they were forced to marry, but the couple realizes they’ve moved far beyond that.

By BUSH-CHENEY-MCCAIN WORLD

June 6, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Ohh goody! RW, @@, Homo AJC/DNC/DUH, dustmite each takes a laxative and becomes intellectually “active” at the end of the day. Duh wants that military uniform so badly he can taste it. Ever since he was thrown out of Cub Scouts for morals violations. Convicted felons are greedily accepted in our military today, but Duh still cain’t make it in. Hit’s thee weakend, boys - ride them SUVs n pickups!

By sin bad

June 6, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

Clint Eastwood for President!

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

Blowfish,

You’ll have to link us to that so called humiliation. Somehow I believe it was the other way around. As it always is. Have you found any species that ever became a different one yet?

No? I didn’t think so.

You’re right about my grandfather watching newsreels from afar during World War II, but not for the reason you think you’re right. World War 1 vets weren’t in the biggest demand at the time.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

The have a lot of objects on loan from the NY State Museum.

@@

Are we really surprised at anything Senator Chuckie would say? Isn’t often he leaves me flabbergasted - I suppose he thinks the Tibetans should stop griping about Chinese hegemony, too.

Sen Schumer quotes Putin, “I have a dream…”

By sin bad

June 6, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

Paul @ 6:27. Yes, the french were quite sympathetic.

from your link:

“rimaldi cites as an example the profiles of the hijackers, which do not feature in the New York State Museum’s exhibit on September 11.

We decided to show photographs of the 19 jihadists and show that they were not mad. These are young faces. They are not demented,” he said.

By @@

June 6, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

Damn AmVet, can you be a bigger a*******hole?

My husband piddles around with E-bay in his leisure time. Picked up a pair of boots, brand new, at a thrift store for $2.00. Sold ‘em on e-bay within 48 hours for $750.00.

Turns out they were “Indy” boots, the kind Indiana Jones wears.

Bought a knife for $20.00, sold it for $600.00. Turns out it was a collector’s knife designed by a Native American artisan.

One man’s stupidity is another man’s, MY MAN’S, good fortune.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

sin bad

When people do horrible things we don’t comprehend it’s easy to write them off as mad.

If we accept they are not mad, yet they are capable of committing such acts, then we have sane people who are evil.

It’s not a new phenomena, but one whose implications we don’t always want to consider.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

Paul: I hate saying this because it is a cruel concept but if the Iraq war hadn’t progressed exactly as it has over the last five years, we probably would have lost it.

Patreous in 2004 would have had to work his magic tricks without the wholesale support of the Iraqi people.

The plan in 2004 was to let the Iraqis govern themselves with protections offered by large force intervention, remember the coward liberals harping that we were forcing our way of life on them?

So we retreated to our bases leaving the elected government and it’s people, which at that time supported the terrorists, to the tender mercies of al Qaeda.

Just as the Iraqi people found out that the terrorist and the leftwing sissy pinko media version of America the “bad guys” was wrong, they also found out who the real bad guys were.

Game, set, match.

I really do not want to say it was planned that way but………

By Inadequate White (She)male

June 6, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

Hi,

It’s me. Andiduh. My 3 millionth post on Lucko’s blog.

Good God, what a worthless POS I am.

By Paul

June 6, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

AJC

Time’s running out, but, wow… implications… continue next week

Pleasant weekend, all -

BSG in three!

By AJC/DNC Management

June 6, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AJC/DNC Management June 6, 2008 7:00 PM}}}}

{{{{By Inadequate White (She)male June 6, 2008 7:00 PM}}}}

Well, well, just as earlier when I posted the exact same time that RW did, disproving the moonbat theory that we are the same person, now I’ve gone and posted at the exact same time AmWet did.

Karma.

By RW-(the original)

June 6, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

@@,

DANG! Maybe I should actually look into the ebay thing the triple-L’s seem to think is so bad.

Paul,

If I can add to what Andy said about the progression of the war, the surge also wouldn’t have worked too much earlier as we needed to build the Iraqi forces first.

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