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By Mike Luckovich | Friday, June 6, 2008, 08:40 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

Tip toe all around the failures of government, hey AJC?

{{{{OUR OPINIONS: Unheeded warnings- ‘Gaps’ in protective services don’t adequately explain why the state failed little Amiya Brown-Urinal/DNC}}}}

After all, it was just a child that died, who cares, right, Urinal?

Protect your beloved government first.

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{{{{TINY CAR MAKES BIG TIME: LOOKING SMART- Owners size up the small vehicle for its >>>>>safety<<<<<<, mileage, convenience. And oh, by the way, it’s cute, too.-Urinal/DNC}}}}

If you don’t have the Urinal litter box liner, you’re missing the picture of this death trap, imagine a tissue box with wheels.

Safety???????

More proof that the pinkos care more about their greenie junk science then they do your life.

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{{{{One of the favorite Republican themes will be labeling him the most liberal senator, as ranked by the National Journal. Now, it’s true that Obama — how to put it? — votes eerily like a Democrat. >>>>But it’s hard to believe he’s really more liberal than Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Chuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer, Russ Feingold or Bernie Sanders.<<<<}}}}

{{{{If he’s elected, you should not expect a reduction in taxes, spending, regulation, federal power or Birkenstock sales.}}}}

This is my favorite defense of DukaKerry De Wimp’s liberalism so far, Steve Chapman reassures us all, “hey, he’s no worse than Barbara Boxer.”

Yeesh.

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{{{{Now Obama has achieved the nomination, but his winning primary strategy on Iraq could come back to haunt him in the general election, when the far left becomes rather insignificant. Already John McCain is painting Obama as a terror appeaser who would snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq.}}}}

By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

The American people aren’t stupid, liberals are:

{{{{Democrats failed to secure a majority, much less the 60 Senators necessary, for a procedural vote on Friday morning that would have allowed the real work of amending the bill to begin. By that point, Majority Leader Harry Reid had already made it plain that he wanted the bill off the floor as quickly as possible - despite calling climate change “the most critical issue of our time.” But not critical enough, apparently, even to let his Members vote on the merits, much less amendments.}}}}

{{{{The strange death of this year’s cap-and-trade movement was so unexpected that some are already predicting a shift in the politics of global warming.}}}}

{{{{Conveniently, the Democrats would also bestow unto Congress (read: themselves) some $6.7 trillion in new tax revenues and carbon welfare handouts over the next four decades.}}}}

{{{{“I resent the Senator from Tennessee saying our bill is a slush fund,” Ms. Boxer said at one point, apparently serious.}}}}

Bwa.

By IN THE NEWS

June 9, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

John McCain gets tax-free disability pension The disclosure of the Navy benefit for injuries incurred as a Vietnam POW may raise fitness questions. By Ralph Vartabedian, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer April 22, 2008 Sen. John McCain has long said he is in robust health and is strong enough to hike the Grand Canyon, but he also is receiving what his staff Monday termed a “disability pension” from the Navy. When McCain released his tax return for 2007 on Friday, he separately disclosed that he received a pension of $58,358 that was not listed as income on his return…………….If McCain can hike across the Grand Canyon, then why should he be getting disability payments from the government that are tax-exempt, Schriebman asked. McCain shattered his knee and broke both arms when he was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967.

BUT WAIT….

“McCain Criticizes Obama in GI Bill Spar Friday, May 23, 2008

FOX NEWS

BILL HEMMER, CO-HOST: All right. Fair and balanced now, Frank Donatelli is the deputy chair of the Republican National Committee and John McCain supporter………

DONATELLI: Well, there’s two points about that. Number one, as has been discussed, the Congressional Budget Office does say that the Webb bill would really harm retention rates, and at a time when we desperately need skilled military, that wouldn’t be a good thing. And then, the second thing is that the Webb bill is just as generous to veterans with a minimal amount of service than with somebody that, say, who’s been in for 20 years.

OF COURSE THAT RETENTION THING GETS WASHED OUT WITH THE INCREASED ENLISTEMNT THING BUT WHY MENTION DETAILS….

AND THEN THERE’S THIS….

“CREW and VoteVets release email telling VA staff to “refrain from giving a diagnosis of PTSD straight out”

SEE THE EMAIL AT THE CREW WEBSITE

WHO CAN FORGET THIS BRILLIANT MOVE

“President Bush ‘Strongly Opposes’ 0.5 Percent Increase In Military Pay Because It ‘Is Unnecessary’…..The bill includes a section to raise the pay for the soldiers by 3.9 percent – an increase of 0.5 percent over the Bush administration’s request. In a “Statement of Administration Policy” released yesterday, the White House asserts that it “strongly opposes” the pay increase auth

By Copyleft

June 9, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

Actually, Hillary’s best function in President Obama’s administration might be as Secretary of Health & Human Services.

It’s the one area where her plan is better than Obama’s, and we need national healthcare reform implemented ASAP. Might as well put her formidable willpower and determination to good use!

By Copyleft

June 9, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

“More proof that the pinkos care more about their greenie junk science”

Or, as sane people call it, “Reality.”

By Paul

June 9, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

ITN

First you criticize a vet who was tortured for nearly six years getting a disability pension - never once stating what “disability” means in this context and if it is even related, by VA criteria, to perform the job functions of the Presidency -

Then you criticize the VA for stating that the initial determination of a vet who says he has problems, having served in Iraq, with no documentation of problems, should not automatically be a disability.

Ideology and facts. Oil and water. So it continues.

ITN 8:45

This could well be the most telling post of the day.

McCain supports “preemptive” war.

Yet silence on Obama - who has said he would do “anything” to keep Iran from getting a nuke (even though he’s offered no proof they’re even trying).

So he’d take (military) action against a country merely for trying to obtain an object - not for attacking us.

Care to tell us how that’s not preemption?

McCain and Obama - want preemptive action against a country that hasn’t attacked us? Pick either.

By RW-(the original)

June 9, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

At the Official Obama Site: 57 Flavors of Crazy

Better hurry though, the Obambi campaign has been scrubbing their web site all weekend. Can’t leave behind the shiny objects that drew in the cultists when there’s a general election ahead you know.

By IN THE NEWS

June 9, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Georgia U.S. Senate Debate airs tonight

By RW-(the original)

June 9, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Shouldn’t that be “Georgia DHIMMICRAT U.S. Senate Debate Airs Tonight?”

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At the Official Obama Site: ‘How the Jewish Lobby Works’

By RW-(the original)

June 9, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

{{{{{ search of the official my.barackobama.com site for “Jewish Lobby” reveals an enormous amount of antisemitic hatred being posted. This is really shocking stuff, and shows beyond any doubt that this is no fluke.}}}}}

{{{{{There are hundreds, possibly thousands, of posts that refer to the “Jewish lobby” at the Obama site. I stopped looking at the results on page 10.}}}}}

By the way, it is absolutely no excuse to say that “anyone can post a blog there.” Barack Obama isn’t running a Blogspot blog, he’s running for president of the United States, and his official web site is full of hatred and antisemitism.

By GMAN

June 9, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Senator McGoo’s credentials: (1) crashed a plane on a carrier deck, (2) got shot down, (3) wrested with old men like Strom Thurmond, (4) uses the f-word liberally, (5) dumped a cancer-stricken wife in favor of a rich one and committing adultery, (6) and engaged in the Keating Five scandal. Excellent qualifications for president!

By IN THE NEWS

June 9, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

McCain campaign strategist Mark Salter said Monday night that McCain was technically disabled. “Tortured for his country — that is how he acquired his disability,” Salter said…….Technically? What does that mean? Usually, it means that under the strict reading of the law, you’re covered, but in fact it’s kind of a nudge-nudge-wink-wink situation - that’s what “technically” means. It’s called parsing, which is something you do to “technically” claim something is true, when on its face it really isn’t. So is McCain “technically” disabled, and taking $58,000 a year tax free from the government, or is he actually disabled? I would imagine there are other solders who are actually disabled who could use the money. And if he is actually disabled, just how disabled is he?…………. But I also remember from those articles how hard it is for our current injured troops to get the health care they need (the military is actually refusing to diagnose PTSD in order to save money on benefits!). I’m just not sure that the McCains, who own “eight or nine houses,” should be getting $58k a year tax-free from the government for a “technical” disability when others who don’t have families worth a gazillion dollars could use that support a lot more. The median household income in the US in 2006 was $48,201. I know vets who have done well for themselves in the workplace and, as a result, refuse to take any federal medical benefits. They feel it would simply be wrong to take what amounts to federal welfare when they’re rich. …………..But something is wrong when we’re paying millionaires $58,000 a year, especially when those same millionaires complaine that we were being “overly-generous” to our troops currently fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. At the very least, it’s terribly hypocritical.

By RW-(the original)

June 9, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Invalid page

Of course this wasn’t always an invalid page.

Just yesterday this is what it said

By Paul

June 9, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

ITN - 9:34

This is just great. So now we can expect a Pres Obama to impose “means testing” on veterans with war injuries? (the more money you make the less you get in veteran disability benefits).

Great way to support the troops, ITN.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

DukaKerry De Wimp’s qualifications for president 1) smoked crack cocaine, 2) close association with America hating terrorist Bill Ayers and cop killer Bernadin Dorhn, 3) twenty year religious studies with a focus on evil whitey, 4) cannot speak more than a few sentences with out a teleprompter directly in front of him, 5) has big ideas for YOUR money.

Hey, this is a fun game to play, thanks, Gman.

By GMAN

June 9, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) I saw you posted a few of those hateful “Jewish Lobby” posts yourself. Nice, real nice.

By IN THE NEWS

June 9, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 340

By Paul

June 9, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

ITN 9:54

“The Joshua Generation project will be the Obama campaign’s outreach to young people of faith.”

Which faith?

Christian?

Only?

and only certain “Christians?”

Not the best of mornings, is it?

By GMAN

June 9, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Poor, poor AJC/DNC Management! It appears Senator McGoo’s credentials: (1) crashed a plane on a carrier deck, (2) got shot down, (3) wrested with old men like Strom Thurmond, (4) uses the f-word liberally, (5) dumped a cancer-stricken wife in favor of a rich one and committing adultery, (6) and engaged in the Keating Five scandal, (7) sought the endorsement of known anti-semetic, anti-catholic, and homophobic pastors and received them, and (8) flip-flops like a guppy out of water. The list is ever growing. Excellent qualifications for president!

By RW-(the original)

June 9, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

So GirlieMAN, Did IN THE OOZE post those things at McBushie’s website or would you like to accuse me of that too?

Moron

By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

{{{{In that interview, the CIA’s Hayden also that al Qaeda is no longer able to use the Iraq war as a way to draw in new recruits. The reason is clear: If you go to Iraq to fight the American infidel you will die, and die for nothing.}}}}

Got that?

By Paul

June 9, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

GMAN

“Wounded in combat” vs “Never served.”

Given the postings (I assume by Obama supporters) excoriating the current President for not serving in combat even though he was serving in the military, you may want eliminate from your list combat-related items as an item of scorn, particularly when comparing to a candidate who never bothered to serve.

Just a suggestion -

By Paul

June 9, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

ITN cites Ross Perot.

Surreal.

By RW-(the original)

June 9, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Obambi’s plan for change in Iraq

1) Surrender

2) Force a new Constitution on them that will be drawn up by the UN so they have no stake in their own country

3) A new surge!!! This time with diplomats (who refuse to go there now even with troops to protect them)

4) Get Bushie

By GMAN

June 9, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Paul Being wounded in combat or serving in the military for that matter does not make you qualified to be president just as not serving does not disqualify you from being president. I’m sure you understand.

By AmVet

June 9, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Whether you like him or not and whether you’ll vote for him or not, this is TREMENDOUS news!

If McCain does nothing else but steer the Republican Party FAR from these religious frauds and charlatans, the theocrats and the Talibaptists, i.e. the GOP’s “faithful base”/lunatic fringe, he is doing America an invaluable service, and I salute him.

{The rejection of an offer to meet with Graham is yet another indication that the McCain campaign has made a deliberate, strategic decision to chart a new course for the GOP, a course without the sizable evangelical Christian voting bloc serving as its base.}

(He MUST see now that he, nor the nation, really needs them anymore. IMHO they are definitely a part of the problem, not the solution.)

{In another disturbing sign that Sen. John McCain has little interest in reaching out to his conservative base, including evangelical Christian voters, his campaign has declined an offer to meet with the Rev. Billy Graham.}

How awesome is that?!

Now if only Obama will shed this ridiculous quasi-pious nonsense and stop sucking up to HIS phony “men of the cloth”.

By Paul

June 9, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

GMAN

Now I think I see your point. The way your first post read, I took it that serving in combat and getting shot down was a negative. In much the same way ITN simply posts items, with the implication they’re negatives and disqualifiers.

I think your are saying some say serving, being in combat, etc are qualifiers - but I don’t recall McCain supporters using that line of reasoning. They have said he has a better understanding of the military and dealing with enemies - but that’s a different issue.

Others here have used the “he didn’t serve in combat, how can he commit our troops” line regarding Pres Bush. It’s one of those be careful of the arguments you use - they can come back and bite ya’.

So your post seems to go along with what I posted the other day - merely citing “vets against the war” statements as valid - because they’re vets, and they served in Iraq - is not valid. Any more than is a GM factory worker’s opinion on the state of the auto industry.

By Paul

June 9, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

AmVet

It is a good thing.

And I’ve been amazed over the past months by how Democrats who ridicule and despise the Republican religious segment simply ignore or attempt to minimize the emergence of a similar religious segment within their own midst. With a nominee whose speeches oftentimes sound like sermons.

Golly, maybe Obama will shake things up, demonstrate change and cooperation…

and pick Huckabee as his VP.

By IN THE NEWS

June 9, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

McCain has frequently used the verb “surrender” to characterize the consequences of Obama plans for Iraq. McCain’s advisers say that Obama’s position amounts to a surrender and that the word, while pregnant with meaning, is defensible and appropriate. But McCain has taken the phrase a step further. Who precisely would Obama “surrender” to? “Al Qaeda” But that’s a bit of a distortion of the situation in Iraq, where a Sunni/US, eh, call it an alliance, has contained and significantly diminished the capacity of Al Qaeda to the point where the terrorist organization is no longer the predominant threat in Iraq. It makes no sense to say that Obama would “surrender” to a tiny, increasingly irrelevant faction even if that faction would declare victory. One could argue that Al Q might re-surge if US troops withdrew; indeed, McCain does argue that. Describing the Democratic plan as one involving a surrender to Al Q immediately brings and posits associations between Iraq, Al Qaeda, terrorism, 9/11, fear and evil. The distortion is significant. Obama wants to withdraw troops; that withdrawal will have consequences; one of them is not a “surrender” to Al Qaeda unless Iraq is a very different country from the one described last week by Gen. Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker. If McCain were to substitute “Iran” for “Al Qaeda,” there’d at least be a stronger factual basis underlying his claim, as Iran would, at this point, have more influence in Iraq than Al Qaeda does.

By Bosch

June 9, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Did you catch on BSG Baltar talking to Centurion (Jesus talking to the Centurion) - and what he was saying?

And then they get blown to smithereens.

Pretty cool.

Ah, weekend of good soccer games. Didn’t watch the news once - which, I think is a record for me.

So, how was Hill’s speech Saturday? Didn’t watch it, didn’t even read about it (much).

By Dusty

June 9, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Oh my goodness, Paul@10:39

You have made me laugh in a blog that has all the humor of a funeral parlor. That line about Huckabee as VP for Obama is a real winner.

What next? Michelle Obama as McCain’s VP?

By IN THE NEWS

June 9, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

McCains Plan for AMerica

Suurender to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney

Suurender to special initerests - big oil, big pharm and big finance

Surrender to the fanatical religious right.

Surrender ethics, responsibility, morality and decency in favor of power.

Surrender to the Neo-cons.

By Paul

June 9, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

ITN

As pointed out the other day, what’s important is not just how Dems or Reps view our candidates and their pronouncements, but how our enemies do.

From two years ago - evidently al Quaeda equates pullout with surrender.

“my dear Muslim brethren, what I told you more than a year ago, that the U.S. troops will pull out of Iraq. It was only a matter of time.

“Here they are now and in the blessing of God begging to pull out, seeking negotiations with the mujahedeen. And here is Bush who was forced to announce at the end of last November that he will be pulling his troops out of Iraq.

“He uses the pretext that the Iraqi forces reached a high level of preparedness. But he doesn’t have a timetable for the pullout.

“If all of his troops — air force, army — are begging for a way to get out of Iraq, will the liars, traitors and infidels succeed in what the world superpower failed to achieve in Iraq?

“You have set the timetable for the withdrawal a long time ago and Bush, you have to admit that you were defeated in Iraq, you are being defeated in Afghanistan, and you will be defeated in Palestine, God willing.”

Link: al Qaeda No. 2 - Bush must admit defeat in Iraq

By AmVet

June 9, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Paul, cozying up MUCH too closely to the religious power-brokers is one of several areas where the Dems have parroted the worst facades of the GOP.

In my opinion, it is a losing strategy.

I am a big believer when it comes to religion/mythology, especially as an aspect of governance, in Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell!

By Copyleft

June 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Paul: You seem to be breaking ranks with GOP strategists when you suggest America should actually CARE about how our words and actions are viewed by others.

I thought Bush’s gung-ho “cowboy diplomacy” (Shoot First, Ask Questions Never) was the new model for the Republican movement. Now you’re saying we need to think about how other countries view us? GASP!

By IN THE NEWS

June 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Jesus Denounces McCain, Endorses Obama…..Outside an Applebee’s off the New Jersey Turnpike in Paramus yesterday, Jesus Christ told reporters, “Look, it’s been a very divisive primary season between Barack and Hillary. I thought my support would aid the healing process and help unify the Democrats.” Asked if he was a registered Democrat, Jesus replied, “I’m actually registered with the Green Party. But no amount of faith and prayer will get their candidate elected.” Christ clarified, “I perform miracles, but there are limits.”……Speaking with CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer on The Situation Room, Candi Crowley cautioned that the big endorsement may backfire. “In the end, Wolf, this may turn out to hurt the Illinois senator more than it helps him. We know Barack Obama is already vulnerable on national security. So I’m not sure how having the blessing of a guy who coined the phrase ‘turn the other cheek’ is only going to help him,” explained Crowley. “And you can bet that Republicans will be combing through Jesus’ past sermons, which include, just for starters, not only extreme preaching of non-violence but also impassioned instruction to, and I’m quoting Matthew 5:44, Wolf, ‘Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.’ Now, in the middle of the war on terror, it’s hard to see how McCain won’t hammer Obama on this.”…………Commenting on The O’Reilly Factor, host Bill O’Reilly said, “Look, we all know that Jesus means well. He always has and that’s who he is. Fine. But here in the no-spin zone, we also can’t ignore the facts. And the truth is, this guy was a radical going back to his original days on Earth. A hippie and an anarchist who couldn’t hold down a job. Jesus Christ, again, a fine lord and savior. I give him full credit for that. But this guy single-handedly created the welfare state and he’s the prince of appeasement. Trust me, Neville Chamberlain ain’t got nothing on Jesus.”

By Dusty

June 9, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Bosch,@10:48

Aren’t you upset by Luckovich’s cartoon?? I thought you were the ambassador to Outer Space Galaxies? You report on them every day. Awwww…

Paul,

NOW I find that ITN is rediculously funny. Her McCain surrender plan was made for the comic strips. She really needs to camp out there. Wonder if they allow cut’n’paste?

By AmVet

June 9, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Copyleft at 11:21,

I saw a headline where Chavez looks forward to working with the next US president.

Many, rightfully or not, dismiss him as a loon, but I think it points out two very important things.

If he is looking forward to the end of the Bush debacle (as are the vast majority of Americans), one could presume that MANY other heads of state are as well.

Allies, long standing and otherwise, as well as non-allies alike.

And this nation will have yet another chance to restore the luster she alone has, after the filthy tarnishing it has taken under this abomination of an administration…

By Goldie

June 9, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Good ‘toon, Lucko — I like Hillary’s idea for assigning President Bill as “roving ambassador”… now that was pretty funny!

By Paul

June 9, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Dusty

:-)

Bosch

Glad you showed. I was about to give up.

The Centurioun took quite a blast. But did you catch what Baltar said to Laura - that after he admitted he gave the codes to the Cylons is when he felt God’s forgiveness? That he was like the earlier people who had saved humanity by giving them a fresh start? I’m not sure if it was a plot element or just to show the extent of self delusion.

I knew Laura was going to kill him. I thought there was a less than even chance she’d back off.

BTW - when De’Anna did the “joke” on Laura - didn’t mean she’s not.

And who was it - got asked a question - said “I lied”? Just like in our musings.

One episode left. I’m not sure how they’re going to pull it off.

By Bosch

June 9, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I liked the Laura/Baltar moment, although the blood was a little much, I’m not one for giant open wounds with blood gushing out of them. I didn’t think that Baltar would die because once a LONG time ago, Number Six said he’d make it to Earth. I’ve always kept that in the back of my head.

I didn’t catch that (about Baltar and God’s forgiveness) - I don’t know if it’s my T.V, but sometimes I can’t hear what they say, I have to watch it a few times to get it.

That’s one thing I’ve always liked about that show - little distinction because whose the good guy and whose the bad guy.

How do you KNOW there is only one episode left - where did you read that? When they showed the previews they didn’t say anything like “tune in next week for the series finale” or anything like that.

“And who was it - got asked a question - said “I lied”? Just like in our musings”

Huh? In the show? I missed that part.

By getalife

June 9, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Laura is in Afghanistan scoring at the source and will share with McCain’s wife.

MO hates whitey and the Obama’s spew those Jew haters on their blog are not the Jew haters they knew.

McCancer went out in the Florida sun

By Paul

June 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Copyleft 11:21

Just talking of political strategy. I think there was an element of disregard by many in the Administration - but there was also more consulting and cooperation than many want to admit.

But my post concerned how Obama’s plan would be viewed by al Qaeda.

Bosch

Link: BSG Episodes

Link: More Indepthepisodes#Season4)

Actually, I’d be real please if the show went on a LOT longer with the same quality of writing.

Just as I’m sure many of those reading our posts would be pleased…

AmVet - Bosch

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: reading all these links about McCain’s personal life, family, etc: The Moral Majority has been resurrected by the Left.

Nothing ever changes -

By Dusty

June 9, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

Well, Amvet @11:40

Maybe Chavez will enjoy working with McCain but I doubt it. Cuba’s Castro probably won’t either. Osama will probably stop sticking his head outside his cave. Ahmajinadad won’t send out any invites.

Now, isn’t that a shame. All we need to do is pat a few communists, fascists and terrorists on the back and VOILA! great diplomatic relationships.

Yep, President McCain will know how to handle these “diplomats”. I am encouraged by Americans who act like Americans and appreciate the fact that they are AMERICAN. Go McCain.

By @@

June 9, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

So what’s it gonna be ml?

HillaryWonKanOB? or….

an OBWonButtkusButKanOBWinTheBigWon?

Moooooooonbats in Spaaaaaaaaace….

Aaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeeiiiaahhhh!

By Dusty

June 9, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Oh my..I forgot to mention!! I saw Pride and Prejudice on TV last night. Would you like to hear what happened? Lizzie is melting toward Mr Darby!! She may have misjudged him. Oh, the tense moments!! Conclusion from the heart next week.

By Midori

June 9, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

actually Paul, the Moral Majority never left the building.

after all, it was they who taught the GOP how to sniff Clinton’s crotch and search through his garbage.

At least we haven’t sunk to those levels…….

By Paul

June 9, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Dusty

You wouldn’t be making fun of BSG, now, would you?

Midori

I was just hoping there wouldn’t be any sinking to any levels by the Dems - you know, change, a new way, a fresh start and all that -

By Bill

June 9, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Ahh.m mThe usual characters are in place. RW, AC/DC-homoMan, Dustmite, etc. The beginning of a fresh new week of lies, anger, hatred, bitterness, envy, jealousy, cowardice, and so much more. In their gangsta togs, caps, flip-flops, SUVs, pickups, debt, drooling at the mouth & deep within their own ignorance and lifetimes of personal failures. The Right Wing rancid American masses. Bush-McShame World at its finest. Rave on, Little People, rave on.

By Copyleft

June 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Paul: Oh, okay. What a relief! See, the right-wing HAS made a lot of noise about “emboldening the terrorists with our flagrant displays of democracy,” so THAT kind of worrying about world opinion seems okay.

By the way, will you go on record that ANY public disagreement with President Obama will, naturally, embolden our enemies and therefore put the dissenter “on the side of the terrorists and a disloyal, anti-American scum”? Because I know Dusty’s already signed up for that slot.

By getalife

June 9, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

[War bill helps Iraqis, may ignore Katrina victims] (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080608/aponreus/iraqkatrina;ylt=AvpmsUlkqSV6.AXngmlXL85ws8F)

Can I get a unity fist pound dawg?

By Paul

June 9, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Copyleft

Sometimes it’s difficult to distinguish between what people know but ignore just to make a political point, and what they haven’t considered at all.

Regarding your second paragraph, I can’t buy that. Public disagreement is a good thing - demonstrates the strength of our system, adherence to free speech and all that. I’ll even say one can disagree with tactics and have it come out okay. But statements such as Sen Reid’s “this war is lost” - are, I think, ill-advised and should be seen as a too-easy item of propaganda value.

By Ralph

June 9, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

Right you are, Midori. The Immoral Majority is alive and well, but functioning w different names. It’s “Jesus” and “God” and “Patriotism” and “Hero” and “The Flag,” ad nauseum. The very same dirtbags who are still chewing on a giant chunk of Cold War phlegm, and they will run a campaign that idolizes the concept that the only way to a healthy America is thru constant mindless aggression and phony wars. They will attempt, as always, to make McCaint’s musty, patriarchal brand of regurgitated Republiconism somehow seem fresh and visionary. Half of the unwashed citizenry will buy these lies. America has become, indeed, a 3rd world country. Just look how easily it happened.

By Copyleft

June 9, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Paul: I knew that, really; I was just pointing out how bizarre and irrational lonely ol’ Dusty will be when her unquestioning, loudly outspoken opposition to anything Pres. Obama says or does will make HER the “terrorist sympathizer.”

By her own standards, of course… which have nothing to do with logic or reality.

By Midori

June 9, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

speaking of the Moral Majority

Someone call Ms Manners!!

QUICK!!!

By Paul

June 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Copyleft

Oh, I dunno - I’ve a feeling Dusty may surprise you.

Even if McCain wins.

ITN 1:58

Could it be Obama is privy to the same intel as Bush - about the “nuke threat” of Iran - but doesn’t believe Obama or McCain would take effective action?

Or is this simply a little bit of Israeli psy-ops against Iran? Bit of an attempt to get them to stand down with Gaza?

Your 2:08

See what happens when you change from registered voters to likely voters. By state. Notice Hillary hasn’t released her delegates yet -

By Dusty

June 9, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Paul,1:08

Who me? BSG? Who?

Copyleft,all over the place….

You would be less boring if you did not run around to several blogs saying the same ol’ stuff in the same ol’ way. I can’t remember specifically calling anyone disloyal, anti-American scum but reading your posts makes it sound like a fine idea.

I do not think Obama is in any way suitable for the office of President of the USA. If I repeat the words of his minister of twenty years and his wife of similar philosophies, I present quite truthfully what I find objectionable in the history of Barack Obama. But you would curtail MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH because it does not agree with what you want to hear. Well, tough it out, lil’ toadie. See! I did not call you a terrorist. R U 1???

By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS June 9, 2008 3:24 PM TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran’s supreme leader told the visiting Iraqi prime minister Monday that the U.S. military presence is the main cause of Iraq’s problems.}}}}

SNEWZE: From what I understand, Hitler didn’t want the U.S. army in France during WW2 either.

Geez, what a jerk off you really are.

By IN THE NEWS

June 9, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS June 9, 2008 3:24 PM TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran’s supreme leader told the visiting Iraqi prime minister Monday that the U.S. military presence is the main cause of Iraq’s problems.}}}}

SNEWZE: From what I understand, Hitler didn’t want the U.S. army in France during WW2 either.

Geez, what a jerk off you really are.}}}

Yep, I remember FDR talking about his great allies the Nazi’s…..

Dumba$$.

By mm

June 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Duh,

Hey warmonger, go hide under your bed.

Loser.

By Paul

June 9, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

ITN 3:55

“In general, I’d prefer less talk that paints McCain in a positive light,”

Olde-timey partisans die a hard death.

“Giving a bit of ground on this question — before bringing the hammer down on all the ways McCain would represent a continuation of Bush’s policies — is probably the best way to neutralize, in advance, the McCain camp’s efforts to achieve separation from the soon-to-be-former President. The idea is to lead voters through what they’ve heard about McCain’s supposed independence to a real understanding of what electing him will actually mean to them on their most pressing issues. Well said. I think that’s the strategy exactly.”

The light bulb comes on. Dimly.

By Midori

June 9, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Fired and brimestone: If you’re going to fire someone, you want to make sure you do it in a place where the now-unemployed can’t make a scene.

You know…a place like, say, a church.

That, according to a new book – “Machiavelli’s Shadow” – by former Time magazine reporter Paul Alexander, is where President George W. Bush informed trusted advisor Karl Rove in 2007 that his services would no longer be needed at the White House.

“On a Sunday in midsummer, George W. Bush accompanied Karl Rove to the Episcopalian Church Rove sometimes attended,” writes Alexander. “They made their way to the front of the congregation. Then, during their time in the church, Bush gave Rove some stunning news. ‘Karl,’ Bush said, ‘there’s too much heat on you. It’s time for you to go.’”

By Paul

June 9, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Midori

Are you ACTUALLY saying that Pres Bush FIRED someone? FINALLY?

ummm, you haven’t been borrowing any ‘stuff’ from getalife, have you?

By Scoreboard

June 9, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Another scorcher folks.

Ain’t global warming a b’tch?

Looks like this will be the hottest June on record.

By Midori

June 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Paul — “I” am not saying ANYTHING.

However, I believe the author of that story is.

By Scoreboard

June 9, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

The latest poll from Gallup has Obama starting to pulling away from McCain.

Obama…..48%

McCain….42%

By Scoreboard

June 9, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

The results are in folks.

The people with the “War is not the Answer” yard signs were right.

By Paul

June 9, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

Midori

Don’t get so touchy!

getalife will share.

By AmVet

June 9, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

Scoreboard, your 4:33 is most ironic.

I just saw this for the first time today:

War is the ultimate definition of human failure. — John Bryson Chane

IF McCain wins in November, all we do is hope that he is a de facto RINO.

After all, the other four guys implicated in the Keating scandal were all Democrats…

By Dusty

June 9, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Time for me to leave (in shock)!!Midori has finally made a true confession @4:27.

She said; “‘I’ am not saying ANYTHING.”

How true! How true! Absolutely nothing!

As ‘tis also said, “Confession is good for the soul.” I hope so.

Bye now…

By Dusty

June 9, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

AmVet 4:42

And you forgot to mention: Investigator in the Keating 5 found NO evidence of wrongdoing by McCain abd there were no charges made against him.

Funny how you skip over the little details in your effort to incriminate a Republican. Oh well. What’s new??

Bye for real this time…

By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS June 9, 2008 3:51 PM Yep, I remember FDR talking about his great allies the Nazi’s…..Dumba$$.}}}}

SNEWZE: Correct me if I’m wrong, numbnuts, but when did Iran become out “ally.”

Is that some new MYDD thing or what?

Oh nevermind, I forgot, over at MYDD, Iran IS an ally.

My bad.

By Midori

June 9, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

Crusty — to bad no one can shut that diseased, lying, gasbag trap of yours up.

You’ve been saying the same stupid crap from day one - Boosh is great!! War is grate!!! Dems are traitors!!!

give it a rest, Banshee.

Paul:

why should I want to borrow anything from Getalife? I’m more than capable of researching my own stories and/or links.

Nothing “touchy” about it — just setting the record staight.

By AmVet

June 9, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

Dustbomb,

Incriminate a Republican?

The more you write, the less sense you make. And starting from where you have, that is remarkable in and of itself.

Senator McCain McCain received $112,000 by 1987 from Keating and Keating’s relatives and employees for his Senate campaign, and was rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising “poor judgment”.

In October 1989 The Arizona Republic reported that in addition to campaign contributions, McCain’s wife and her father had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. The paper also reported that the McCains, sometimes accompanied by their daughter and baby-sitter, had made at least nine trips at Keating’s expense, sometimes aboard the American Continental Corporation (parent of Lincoln) jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating’s opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain also did not pay Keating for some of the trips until years after they were taken, after he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln. Lincoln Savings and Loan’s collapse is said to have cost taxpayers $3.4 billion.

It smelled typically and politically rotten.

And he himself admitted he acted improperly and that it conveyed the impression of undue and improper influence, and it was the wrong thing to do.

I simply stated the facts, he was incriminated with four other Democratic Senators in that Reagan-initiated blunder and outrageously expensive scandal.

Which you and I footed the bill for so a bunch of fat cats could stroll away with zillions…

You see, unlike you, the guy has SOME class and is not so partisan as to be completely willfully ignorant and blind.

By @@

June 9, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

Bush bashing in Europe is lame duck

The gigantic protests that used to accompany Bush’s visits to Europe were a backhanded compliment - the tribute that ——>impotent<—— rage pays to power.

Europe’s progressive ducks may have waddled on, but ours are still quacking, lame, and impotent.

I remember it well….the impotent rage of 2000 but then? Then?….they surrendered to being neutered June 3rd 2008.

There are, however, still some mighty PUMAs “roaring” in the distance.

By Paul

June 9, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Midori

getalife makes references to using vodka and marijuana.

You referenced Pres Bush finally fired someone.

I implied you must’ve been using some of getalife’s ‘stuff’ to have come up with that.

You were the vehicle for a crack about Pres Bush.

Humor becomes so tedious when explained…

By AmVet

June 9, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

From the same article but added to the previous cherry pickings:

{But this shouldn’t be seen as evidence that Europe has finally reconciled itself to the man. Nor should the absence of large-scale anti-Bush rallies be taken as a sign of approval. All this shows is that Bush-hatred, like the president himself, has become a lame duck.}

They don’t have to live with him every day either!

It struck me as odd that this paragon of statesmanship and American ambassadors is somehow revered around the world now!

Off to the gym…

By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

Look, now even ABC “news” knows that Iraq has become a lost cause:

{{{{Obama, who touts his early opposition to the war and was skeptical of the surge policy last summer that increased the number of American troops on the ground, has acknowledged that things have improved in Iraq. But Obama has said that good news only reinforces his argument that troops should start withdrawing from Iraq.}}}}

Haha, fooled ya with the “lost cause,” didn’t I, suckas-ses?

For you POS Iraq IS a lost cause, there will be no triumphant Al Qaeda celebrations, no terrorists rubbing America’s face in the ground, nope, just boring old peace and a strong United States that strikes fear into the hearts of extremists worldwide.

Must really suck, huh?

By Paul

June 9, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

Let me get this straight.

Iraqis can’t handle it, war is a lost cause, we should get out yesterday.

Iraqis can handle it, war is not lost cause, we should get out yesterday.

Four more years of spin to rail against?

Oh, wait, Obama’s a Democrat. Never mind…

By @@

June 9, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

(((All this shows is that Bush-hatred, like the president himself, has become a lame duck.)))

Ummmmm AmVet? A president on his way out, popular or not, is ALWAYS a lame duck. Bush “hatred” was a passing fad in Europe. Our progressives are behind in the times or simply behinds.

(((They don’t have to live with him every day either!)))

Sounds like something your wife probably said more than once.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

Paul: I believe the libs are yearning to get another bloodbath added to their legacy, it seems to me that they very much enjoyed Vietnam, forcing America to it’s knees and getting millions of Asians slaughtered.

If they can’t get one in Iraq then they just push harder on the “global warming” “solutions.”

Either way, millions of innocent people are sure to perish.

By Paul

June 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC

I don’t think I’d go quite that far. But that’s an interesting point about global warming - the advocates state it will cause suffering. Other side is, some of the proposed ‘solutions’ could also cause suffering?

Then again, look what happened to our quest for cheap gas, I mean agribusiness supports, with mandated ethanol, the rise in food prices, food riots and people going hungry.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

Paul: How many millions do you think the libs have killed with their little abortion campaign? Have you ever noticed any signs of concern from them over this slaughter? Do they not become agitated and angry when someone presents a case against abortion?

Now they are even stepping it up, calling children “a harm to the environment,” which is one of their most sickening and bizarre ideas yet.

How about DDT, surely you remember the trucks that used to cruise through the neighborhoods spewing DDT and killing mosquitoes back in the days? And how none of us died or even got sick from it? So why did the libs ban DDT? Because they know better than you do, Paul, just take their word for it.

And millions upon millions of African children died and the libs moved merrily on to their next disaster in the offing.

I know you are not a proponent of extreme concepts but I’m going to lay another one on you anyway, the libs are basically just a bunch of Godless heathens with no direction in their pointless lives, so to replace their spiritual emptiness, they have to find “problems” that they can “solve,” and if that wasn’t bad enough by itself, they are also spineless cowards, so they create the “problems” so that they don’t have to confront the real issues of the world.

Like terrorism, for instance.

By RW-(the original)

June 9, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this

WTF???

{{{{{It’s the only way Tory Bowen knows to honestly describe what happened to her.}}}}}

{{{{{She was raped.}}}}}

But a judge prohibited her from uttering the word “rape” in front of a jury. The term “sexual assault” also was taboo, and Bowen could not refer to herself as a victim or use the word “assailant” to describe the man who allegedly raped her.

I sure as hell hope this idiot judge is at least instructing the jury that he is making the victim…..err unwilling participant tell them she was having sex without consent rather than that she was raped. What the heck does the judge think the defendant is charged with anyway?

By RW-(the original)

June 9, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

{{{{{This gives us hypocrisy on two levels. First, the Obama campaign made a specific point of scolding Hillary Clinton for hiring Mark Penn as her strategist after he represented Countrywide. Now they’ve put the selection of his running mate in the hands of someone who got sweetheart deals from Countrywide while running Fannie Mae, which seems a lot more problematic than being a paid flack for the lender. When will Axelrod call for Johnson’s expulsion from the Obama campaign?}}}}}

Secondly, Obama has run on a promise to change politics in Washington. Given that he has no executive experience, no foreign policy experience, no military experience, and no legislative track record, it’s about the only platform he has left. Does appointing an ethically-challenged, long-time party fixer to a VP search committee look like New Politics or the same old garbage?

By AJC/DNC Management

June 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

{{{{Sens. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Mel Martinez (R-Fla.) authored a bill (with 11 co-sponsors, including Sen. DukaKerry De Wimp) that was incorporated into a housing bill passed by the Senate Banking Committee 19-2 before the Memorial Day recess — a bill that creates a national fingerprint registry.}}}}

So now your boy wants to fingerprint everybody, eh?

Uh, where’s all the whining about privacy at now?

Do you save only your finest whines for Bushie?

By Dusty

June 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

AmWet @5:22

You never quite get to the truth. Suppose we check the facts again on Keating 5 and McCain.

Yes, State Ethics Committee did say he used improper judgment and he agreed. But he was not judged “guilty” nor incriminated (the word you used). Do you not see the difference?

In a later interview and article to the Times, Chief Investigator for the State Ethics Committee wrote that “there were no charges against McCain because there was no evidence.”

McCain paid $112,000 to Keating (a long time friend) for the use of several vacations at the Keating’s resort home. McCain paid no fines because none were required.

If “poor judgment” makes one a criminal, then everyone is a criminal including you, AmWet. You think nobody is as smart as you. Now that is “poor judgment”.

Try and figure it out.

By The Wire

June 9, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Washington - following McCain’s gaffe today about the economy being rosy, an aide was fired for not having changed the Senator’s diaper. Apparently, the oversight resulted in a toxicity that his handlers are saying lead to dementia and thus the remark.

By RW-(the original)

June 9, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

You may want to get to these quickly before the Obama campaign throws them down the memory hole too.

An unconfirmed report says that the candidate issued a statement saying these aren’t the bloggers he knew.

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