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By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
FIRST A LITTLE BUSINESS:
IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS
Senators say report of planned US strikes on Iran untrue
OH AND, Paul sorry to have skipped out on our discussion of Webb’s GI bill yesterday afternoon….We had a small family emergency. We’ll have to get back to that sometime, I truly would like to Be clear on your position.
By GMAN
May 29, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
Not one of the individuals interviewed last night regarding the content of Scott McClellan’s book denied any of the facts. They just tried to smear him. Typical Retardican reaction. How sad…
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
What makes a King out of a slave? Courage!
What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage!
What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage!
What makes the Sphinx the Seventh Wonder? Courage!
What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage!
What makes the Hottentot so hot?
What puts the ape in ape-ricot?
What have they got that I ain’t got?
Courage.
You can say that again.
The longest 47 seconds ever….John McCain’s campaign apparently doesn’t want its candidate seen in public with the president….they were within camera shot for only 47 seconds, and were together on the tarmac for just 26 seconds…..
How much cash can McCain explain, if he meets a plane and remains the same as the man to blame?
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
“On the day after the former White House press secretary conceded that the Bush administration used deception and propaganda to take us to war, it seems odd that Senator McCain, who bought the flawed rationale for war so readily, would be lecturing others on their depth of understanding about Iraq. Senator Obama challenged the President’s rationale for the war from the start, warning that it would divert resources from Afghanistan and the pursuit of Al Qaeda and mire us in an endless civil war.” – SENATOR BARACK OBAMA……..Late Update: The Republican National Committee is now pressing the issue, posting on its Web site a clock counting the number of days since Obama visited Iraq.
MAYBE WE NEED TO POST A COUNTER TOO. SAY THE NUMBER OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS KILLED AND INJURED IN IRAQ SINCE THE BEGINNING OF McCAINS SUPPORT FOR THE WAR.
WE WOULD NEED ANOTHER BIGGER CLOCK FOR THE NUMBER OF IRAQI’S KILLED OR INJURED.
By getalife
May 29, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
We already knew w is a pos.
Nothing new, he is just cashing in on destroying our country like the rest of the criminals.
Stand proud wingnuts of your failed party.
By GMAN
May 29, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
Ed McMann - “The answer is, “I don’t remember”” The Great Karnak - “Senator McCain, what did you have for breakfast this morning?”
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
“The admissions made by Scott McClellan in his new book are earth-shattering and allege facts to establish that Karl Rove and Scooter Libby – and possibly Vice President Cheney - conspired to obstruct justice by lying about their role in the Plame Wilson matter and that the Bush Administration deliberately lied to the American people in order to take us to war in Iraq,” Wexler said. “Scott McClellan must now appear before the House Judiciary Committee under oath to tell Congress and the American people how President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and White House officials deliberately orchestrated a massive propaganda campaign to sell the war in Iraq to the American people.
HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW MANY FOLKS ARE ATTACKING SCOTTIE’S PERSON… BUT HAS ANYBODY SAID HE’S LYING?
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
{{{{Hope in Iraq’s deadly triangle- Ga. division coming home: With violence down, area becomes a showcase for U.S. military.-AJC}}}}
Kudos AJC and Welcome Home 3rd ID!!!
{{{{I am thinking about a conversation I had a couple of hours ago with my pal Phil DeMuth. He said that basically, what we had to realize was that our freedom, our prosperity, our opportunity, our rule of law, came from 19 year olds carrying around M-16’s. He was quoting from a fine book called Grunts. And not only them: How about the policemen and state troopers and highway patrol and sheriffs and prison guards? How about everyone who stands between the weak, pitiful good people and the strong, vicious thugs who want to kill us, rape our wives, take what we have? How about all of them getting some credit once in a while? How about thanking the police once in a blue moon instead of damning them?}}}}
Thank you 3rd ID!
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Bushie was sElected!! Florida was disenfranchised!! 2000 election stolen!! 2000 election stolen!! Waaaaa, Uh-
{{{{Fla., Mich. can’t be fully restored-Urinal/DNC}}}}
Uh, nevermind.
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{{{{A source at Opec said its 13 members were uncomfortable with the current price of crude, which last week hit a record $135 a barrel. Based on present supply and demand, he said it should be fetching $60-$70 a barrel.}}}}
Bwa.
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A perfect example of how hapless and laughable the liberals are: {{{{Nations OK ban of cluster bombs- However, the talks did not involve the biggest makers and users of cluster bombs: the United States, Russia, China, Israel, India and Pakistan-Urinal/DNC}}}}
Let me guess which “nations” did vote; al Qaeda?
Hahahaha, dumbas-ses.
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Astronauts aboard the NASA space shuttle Discovery will be carrying an extra piece of cargo when they launch on Saturday - a new toilet pump.
I THOUGHT NASA ALWAYS HAD REDUNDANT SYSTEMS?
WHAT? NO BACK UP FOR BACK UP?
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
{{{{Along with the bad luck of eating a waffle while waffling and of having his elitist prejudices exposed to public scrutiny, there is an accumulating junk pile of gaffes that seem to be beyond Obama’s control. On Memorial Day he declaimed in one of those august orations of his that suggest an aide is burning incense offstage: “I had an uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps.” Truth be told, the Russian Army, not the American Army liberated Auschwitz; and >>>Obama has had no uncle.<<< It was a gaffe. The glib and affable candidate is becoming gaffable.}}}}
There is no uncle, eh?
{{{{There have been many signs of his gaffability. For instance, he has been caught at least twice claiming — as he did in Selma, Alabama a year ago — that his “very existence” was the result of a Kennedy-funded program that airlifted his father from Kenya to America. His father arrived in a 1959 airlift. The Kennedy family grant was actually made for a second airlift in 1960. Also in Selma he claimed to be born “because of what happened in Selma, Alabama because some folks are willing to march across a bridge.” The march took place in 1965. Obama was born in 1961. A year ago, he smugly observed, “In case you missed it, this week there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died.” He was off by 9,988 casualties. More recently, he has claimed to campaign in 57 states. During a know-it-all assessment of the Bush Administration’s Iraq policy, he blundered into saying that the Iraqis and Afghans speak the same language.}}}}
{{{{His gaffability will continue, and soon the Democratic leaders will be wincing. Yet, they have no alternative to Obama. Hillary’s recent gaffes have been as abominable, and she is not as likable as the young man from Illinois or Hawaii or Indonesia or wherever else he claims to hail from.}}}}
Hehehehehehehehehe.
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
New York Times Perpetuates the Myth that George Bush Won the 2000 Election…”In 2001 painstaking postmortems of the Florida count, one by the New York Times and another by a consortium of newspapers, concluded that Mr. Bush would have come out slightly ahead, even if all the votes counted throughout the state had been retallied.” Alessandra Stanley, New York Times, May 23, 2008, in a review of the HBO television movie, “Recount” .That’s not true.The New York Times did not do its own recount. It did participate in a consortium. Here’s what the consortium actually said: “If all the ballots had been reviewed under any of seven single standards, and combined with the results of an examination of overvotes, Mr. Gore would have won, by a very narrow margin.” Ford Fessenden and John M. Broder, New York Times, Nov. 12, 2001.
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
{{{{On Wednesday’s edition of “Today,” “NBC Nightly News” reporter David Gregory, who covered the White House while McClellan was spokesman, said, “There was never any indication that Scott McClellan, either publicly or privately, held these kinds of views about what was happening at the time on the war, on Katrina, on the leak case — which was his most difficult hour in the White House. He never expressed anything like this.”}}}}
{{{{“Tweaked” probably means massively wrote. And if so, why should this surprise the White House? Why is the White House surprised that a dullard they manipulated could also be manipulated by a book editor?-Neumayr}}}}
We’ll see how much of a crime perjury is, remember Scooter Libby, when the liberals don’t have their conspiracy to play with anymore.
{{{{That’s exactly right. At a critical time in the nation’s history, the media failed to do their duty under the First Amendment, and they —- we —- failed the American people as well.-Jay Kookman, Urinal/DNC}}}}
This statement from a foaming liberal and the whole entire context of Scott McClellan’s book, wholly relies on the premise that Iraq is a “failure.”
That means you have to believe that removing Saddam Hussein from power, a mass murdering dictator who menaced other Middle Eastern countries, was wrong; you have to believe that totally and utterly defeating al Qaeda, to the point that even the majority of Muslims now reject them and their POS jihad, was wrong; and that having a self governing democracy that, not only is able to defend itself, but is capable of participating in the larger war on terrorism, is wrong.
You freaking surrender monkey liberals sure have a bizarre way of measuring success.
So enjoy your little sideshow from adult responsibility, go back in your little pervert time capsules and revel in the minor details, me, I’ll pass on your insanity, and instead focus on the future, a free Middle Eastern country that rejects terrorism in favor of a democracy.
You know, the once unthinkable.
But I will be laughing at you liberals, that’s for damn sure.
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
{{The Similar Governing Philosophies of George W. Bush and Saddam Hussein
From the Politico story about Scott McClellan’s new book:
Bush was “clearly irritated, … steamed,” when McClellan informed him that chief economic adviser Larry Lindsey had told The Wall Street Journal that a possible war in Iraq could cost from $100 billion to $200 billion: “’It’s unacceptable,’ Bush continued, his voice rising. ‘He shouldn’t be talking about that.’”
From the CIA’s 2004 report on Iraq’s WMD:
Advisory groups [Saddam] established generally assumed Saddam already had a preferred position [on issues] and commonly spent time trying to guess what it was and tailor their advice to it. More conscientious members of the Regime sought to work around sycophantic or timid superiors…
Saddam ignored his economic advisors in the Ministries of Finance and Planning with respect to strategic planning. For example, Saddam entered the Iran-Iraq war heedless of Ministry warnings about the economic consequences. He had no plan or strategy for how the war was to be financed.}}}
Posted by Jonathan Schwarz on 05/28/08 MOTHER JONES
By Goldie
May 29, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
Every one of Dubya’s propaganda-meisters who were on TV commenting about Scott’s book ALL SAID THE SAME THING:
“This is sad — this is not the Scott McClellan that I knew!”
They all read the propaganda memo yesterday and regurgitated it verbatim on the TV news channels — just like the good robots that they are… this administration is not only a dismal failure — it’s a nightmare!
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Foreclosure Phil ……Years before Phil Gramm was a McCain campaign adviser and a lobbyist for a Swiss bank at the center of the housing credit crisis, he pulled a sly maneuver in the Senate that helped create today’s subprime meltdown.
By kevin
May 29, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
So nice u support obama who would take us down a bad 4 years of hell..Its amazin the AJC lacks support for are troops its just awful how they do them.Also u people who just can’t stand it if a democratic was president and did what bush was doin u all be support are president. Oh man if the other party was doin what u are now u would hear like treason u hate are country the good ole Usa….am i right if shoe was on other foot u be hearin praise of love for the donkey party…also obama are what his name is wrong Usa troops were at these fun german camps in 1944 first i know dad was there and saw the dead bodys.so my dad would know since he was there.
By GMAN
May 29, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
elitist - “The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.” Sounds like a Retardican to me…
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
Goldie Have you seen any of the GOP talking heads say anything other than he’s a disgruntled employee or that’s not the Scott we knew….something like he’s not telling the truth?
They are b!tching about Scott not Scotts story.
Funny ain’t it?
By DirtyDawg
May 29, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
I predict that Geedubya Bush will have to add an entire wing to his ‘library’ (sic) just to hold all the ‘tell-all’ books coming from his former henchmen and women. First he’ll have to find a place that wants to host his ‘library’…Crawford, here we come.
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Luckovich and I think alike - I’ve referred to Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove as the Four Men of the Apocalypse since about 2001. Sometimes I throw in Rice to mix things up a bit.
I forget - which one of the four horsemen rides the green horse?
About McClellan -
One has to wonder - why now? Why didn’t he have this “moral, personal crisis, come to Jesus, need to write a book” moment a few years ago?
I don’t really care - anything to fuel the fire against Bush & Co., I’m all about.
Like I said yesterday, and getalife just said, writing a a book about how Bush & Co. is a POS, is about as telling to me as an aide writing a tell all book that Clinton is a womanizer.
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
DENVER - Maybe it’s his background teaching constitutional law. If elected president, Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama said one of the first things he wants to do is ensure the constitutionality of all the laws and executive orders passed while Republican President George W. Bush has been in office.
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
Goldie, ITN, and DirtyDawg,
It’s called atonement. They are writing these books to cleanse themselves from their sins.
Bwa!!!
Gotta sit back and enjoy this one!
Watch the wingnut’s heads spinning around and around and around!!!!
There is a God.
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
An email tipster discovered John McCain’s family blog has been infiltrated at the deepest level by enemies of America. Meghan McCain, daughter of the Republican presidential candidate, is really into the keffiyeh, scarf of Middle Eastern Precious Freedoms Haters, and even wears it on the so-called Straight Talk Express, and also in the presence of her apparent sympathizer mom Cindy McCain!
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
The tell all book I want to read will come from Colin Powell.
I want to hear how it all went down from that guy.
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
Bosch and Goldie
It’s Scotty’s Mea culpa.
But As far as I am concerned he needs to do some serious penance.
Did you see the 26 seconds of Bush and McCain together yesterday?
I’d love to find out how much Bush raised for McSame in that little outing.
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
{{{{In addition, Congress has slapped substantial taxes on gasoline. Indeed, as oil industry executives reiterated in their appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee on May 21, 15% of the cost of gasoline at the pump goes for taxes, while only 4% represents oil company profits.}}}}
But yet the goonies from Environmental Terrorism Inc. harp like seals for a windfall profits tax.
Is it about helping the poor and needy or are they dabbling in their beloved junk science, their “brave” and spineless “war” against industry?
By Goldie
May 29, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
ITN and Bosch — McBush is in even deeper doo-doo now because of Scottie’s revelations… I heard that Obama told McBush in a speech that he can’t be lecturing ANYBODY about foreign policy, when McBush was so gung-ho with Dubya’s propaganda machine on fire for invading Iraq!
As Dubya would say: “bring it on!”
By Goldie
May 29, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
Bosch @ 9:35 — there was a great “Frontline” report on PBS back in March or April, and it was very revealing how Dubya, Rummy and Darth Vader beat down Colin Powell and Condi back in 2002, and got them to bow down to their propaganda machine for invading Iraq!
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Goldie,
I’ve always had a lot of respect for Colin Powell. He strikes me as the only person involved with this administration with any kind of class (for lack of a better word).
I saw Condi’s sister in an interview last week, Suzanne Rice, she’s working for Obama. At least one of the Rice women are going to be able to look themselves in the mirror.
By GMAN
May 29, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management Those 14% in taxes go towards building and improving the roads that we ride on everyday, so just remove that out of the equation please. Retardicans just don’t think. They merely read talking points an regurgitate them mindlessly. Sad, so sad…
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
{{{{By GMAN May 29, 2008 10:12 AM AJC/DNC Management Those 14% in taxes go towards building and improving the roads that we ride on everyday, so just remove that out of the equation please. Retardicans just don’t think. They merely read talking points an regurgitate them mindlessly. Sad, so sad…}}}}
dimwit: Yes, great example of what a wonderful job thee government does with that tax money, piling up automobiles for miles and endless miles sitting parked while they idle and belch carbon and go absolutely nowhere.
Aaahhh, but yes, we have very pretty medians and shoulders that we can stare at for hours as we mindlessly sit in traffic.
And by the way, GOOFMAN, are you suggesting the oil companies should provide gas for free, perhaps?
By GMAN
May 29, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
By AJC/DNC Management So sad and typical of Retardicans. When faced with the facts, resorting to name calling to deflect that they have absolutely no real valid argument. The fact that people choose to drive rather than use public transportation in not the governments fault. Sad, do sad…
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Maxine Waters threatens to nationalize U.S. oil industries
AS THEY SO OFTEN SAY, ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE?????
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Aahhh, debating with thee dimwit liberal hypocrites:
{{{{By GMAN May 29, 2008 10:30 AM By AJC/DNC Management So sad and typical of Retardicans. When faced with the facts, resorting to name calling to deflect that they have absolutely no real valid argument.}}}}
Pray tell, goofman, have you read your own posts yet?
{{{{By GMAN May 29, 2008 10:12 AM Retardicans}}}}
Maybe it’s you who has no valid argument, you reckon?
{{{{The fact that people choose to drive rather than use public transportation in not the governments fault. Sad, do sad…}}}}
This is America, mofo, and the last time I checked we were still free to choose whether we wanted to ride the train or to flap our wings and f’n fly to work.
It is not the choice of the government to make for us.
We don’t need your busy body junk science brainwashed as-ses nannying us through our lives, maybe you are incapable of taking care of your own basic functions but don’t include me in your helplessness.
The government RESTRICTS our freedoms, using our hard earned tax money to do it, when it is their JOB to get the hell out of our lives.
Provide for the common defense, ever heard of that, freako?
By DUBYA
May 29, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
As the filth of the Bush administration seeps out daily, the Repugs fanatically attempt to reorganize their madness and hatred.America’s most costly and unwinnable and brital and ignoble and inept and insideous and depressing war that’s not really a war; it’s time to revolutionize how it’s all packaged and broadcast and pumped like hot sticky misery into the heavily ignorant and narcotized American cultural bloodstream. We are WINNING. Democracy. Christianity. Heroes. Patriots. Suck it all in, you cretins. McShame. 4100 dead & counting. God bluss Murcuh. Allah Akbar.
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
FLIP ——-McCain’s about-face on Yucca ———FLOP
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
A whole damn nation of mental invalids, their brains confined to a wheelchair for life, longing for the government to make all of the decisions and choices of life for them, as though government is some all seeing EyeBall Of Intelligence, and here is their presidential candidate, The One Who Has Brought Hope To Their Lazy, Miserable Existence and this goofball can barely form a few sentences without giving birth to a new and wonderfully ignorant gaffe.
And you puke people dimwits want to hand over your whole life, lock, stock and barrel to these power hungry morons?
Have you been to thee Post Office lately?
Pathetic.
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
And it is even worse then that, to fill their empty Godless heathen liberal existence with some “meaning” they have to worship politicians and their mystical junk sciences.
Sick.
I pray for you America.
By Ted
May 29, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
AJC/DNC-Homo-DUH: Golly gee. What a bitter, hate-filled, angry little insect you are. You can hardly wait to get up in the mornings - for THIS, your life! I’m not surprised. What a thrill for that stringy-haired troglodyte w whom you cohabitate, to say nothing of the unfortunate offspring of that repugnant cohabitation. Keeping America great and strong!
By @@
May 29, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
It’s gettin’ tough isn’t it ml?
Warmed over hash can only be served up so many times before those at the table yawn.
If nothing else, you’re to be commended for showing up for work daily….crayon in hand.
Who’s the “buckethead”? No doubt it’s Obama enjoying the reverberation of his own voice.
(((“If so many reflections arrive at a listener that he or she is unable to distinguish between them, the proper term is reverberation.”)))
By Dusty
May 29, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
I tell you. This blog is material for comedians. Let’s see:
MAXINE WATERS TO NATIONALIZE US OIL INDUSTRY (and Mickey Mouse threatens to close Disney World!!)
ONE OF THE RICE WOMEN is going to be able to look at herself in the mirror. (yes and it will be Condi.)
COLIN POWELL & CONDI RICE WERE BEAT DOWN in 2002 (but nobody noticed because it did not happen.)
WINGNUTS HEADS ARE SPINING ROUND & ROUND (while libs babble like a brook).
McCAIN’S DAUGHTER WEARS A FAR EAST SCARF (which proves she has sinister Far East “ties”!)
OBAMA IS GOING TO INSURE THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF ALL LAWS (so when his wife and friends go too far in their disloyalty to USA he will know what to do.)
AL GORE WON THE 2000 ELECTION (Yes and Dewey beat Truman in that election. WOOOHOOO…)
Carry on, you jokesters!! I did not realize what a sense of humor you liberals possessed. Jokes unlimited!!!
By Paul
May 29, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
ITN
No problem. I hope everything is well. I think I answered your question in a post after you left.
Regarding your earlier post on the election – you know how I like original source material – not a partisan website’s interpretation. Here’s the NYTimes article cited:
Link: Examining the Vote
Several key points give quite a different impression from the columnist:
“The race was so close that it is possible to get different results simply by applying different hypothetical vote-counting methods to the thousands of uncounted ballots. And in every case, the ballot review produced a result that was even closer than the official count — a margin of perhaps four or five thousandths of one percent out of about six million ballots cast for president.”
“Under some methods, Mr. Gore would have emerged the winner; in others, Mr. Bush”
“In a finding rich with irony, the results show that even if Mr. Gore had succeeded in his effort to force recounts of undervotes in the four Democratic counties, Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach and Volusia, he still would have lost, although by 225 votes rather than 537. An approach Mr. Gore and his lawyers rejected as impractical — a statewide recount — could have produced enough votes to tilt the election his way, no matter what standard was chosen to judge voter intent.”
continued…
By Paul
May 29, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Operative word is “Could” as in “could have produced enough votes for Gore.” Didn’t someone just a blogger point out that if you’re going to court, make sure your strategy is better than your opponent’s and that you have better lawyers?
To me, the most telling comment is towards the end of the column, after all the previous “what-ifs” that either side uses to say “We won” or “Bush stole.” It is more real-world and less theoretical (something that gets lost here, a lot):
“But what if the recounts had gone forward, as Mr. Gore and his lawyers had demanded? The consortium asked all 67 counties what standard they would have used and what ballots they would have manually recounted. Combining that information with the detailed ballot examination found that Mr. Bush would have won the election, by 493 votes if two of the three coders agreed on what was on the ballot; by 389 counting only those ballots on which all three agreed.”
But all the angst is really over “what if” and “IF my guy won we’d be so much better off.” Well, IF I woulda picked a different number I woulda won the MegaLottery and my life would be different, too. But what-ifs aren’t life. So maybe Justice Scalia had a point when he said “get over it.” BTW- ever read the Supreme Court decision? It’s a whole lot different in the reading than how those who see the Court as corrupt (uh, is “Corrupt” only for this decision?) portray it.
All this driving while staring in the rearview mirror just means you’ll continue to have head-on crashes.
Bosch
I doubt Colin Powell will ever write such a book. He’s got class. Besides – he doesn’t need the money.
McClellan’s book – number one at Amazon. Big deal. Not much new – factually or accusationally. But what does one expect? His job prospects aren’t all that hot (not a smear, but face it, as far as where he falls on the scales of Press Secretaries…) so he’s cashing in while he can. Good for him. We’ve got the revolving door with people moving from public service to megabucks with private industry – this isn’t much different. So, go Scott! Get the big bucks before the tax cuts are rescinded!
Oh, and I read Obama may go to Iraq, just not with McCain. That should provide a lot of grist for the mill.
Hey ITN – any of your sources indignant over a lack of attention and involvement – or do they ignore it as it regards Sen Obama not holding any (that’s accurate – any) h
By Paul
May 29, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Hey ITN – any of your sources indignant over a lack of attention and involvement – or do they ignore it as it regards Sen Obama not holding any (that’s accurate – any) hearings on Afghanistan for the subcommittee he chairs? Kinda problematic for someone who says we need to pay more attention to Afghanistan, isn’t it?
Done for a while - gotta catch my breath… or flex my fingers… or something…
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
Paul,
I doubt Powell would write a book too, but I’d certainly like to be a fly on the wall at his house sometimes!
Like I said earlier, he’s the ONLY person associated with this administration that is worthy of respect. The ONLY one.
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
This is funny:
Scott McClellan on Richard Clarke’s book in 2004:
“Well, why, all of a sudden, if he had all these grave concerns, did he not raise these sooner? This is one-and-a-half years after he left the administration. And now, all of a sudden, he’s raising these grave concerns that he claims he had. And I think you have to look at some of the facts. One, he is bringing this up in the heat of a presidential campaign. He has written a book and he certainly wants to go out there and promote that book. Certainly let’s look at the politics of it.”
Maybe it takes a couple of years for the effects to wear off.
By Dusty
May 29, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Oh bosch, poor baby…so Colin Powell is the ONLY person associated with this administration that is worthy of respect.
Not one person in the first line of Bush’s administration has been convicted of the slightest transgression. Would you care to compare that with the Clinton Administration for your “respect”?
Of course not. That is different! But only to a liberal Democrat like you who tries to cover his hate for Bush winning both elections by calling it “respect”. That while you sit in America made safe by the actions of Bush and the military. Ingrate!!
By Paul
May 29, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
More great news:
Link: Others besides Dow Chemical to raise prices a lot
All sorts of things to be affected. I just may stock up on detergent, etc. I know, many will say that creates artificial shortages. And all this time I thought I was doing my part for a “free market.”
It’s just another BOHICA day -
By John in Tampa Fla
May 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
I have taken a 3 month vacation from this blog and decided to return once to see if it has changed. Sadly, it hasn’t.
By Paul
May 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
getalife
“So why aren’t there more liberal voices on Fox News, Kara Swisher asked? Murdoch replied that he would hire a liberal voice if he could find one that was strong enough.
“Would you hire Keith Olbermann?” Swisher asked.
Murdoch’s response: “No, I fired him five years ago… He’s crazy.”
Sorry ‘bout that.
By mm
May 29, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
Coming this November:
Shock and Awbama.
The wingnuts are imploding on a daily basis now.
By Ralph
May 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
Did ya see the photo of Bush chest-bumping the AF cadet yesterday?? Wow! What a cultured, dignified class act is our Prez?!? Stand proud of that fine example of courage and intellectualism!
By Paul
May 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
Hey John,
I’ve a friend lives outside Tampa. Bought a new house a few years back - $420k. I told him to check his assessment now, it’d likely dropped and would affect his property taxes. He called back and was glad his taxes had dropped - because it’d been revalued to $273k and was still going down.
Nasty. But some folks who couldn’t afford a home before (at real financing) have a shot now -
By Paul
May 29, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Uh, Ralph
As the cadets filed past, they were allowed to make a personal request. Some got autographs, some photos. The cadet in question decided to top all others and go for a chest bump. He asked before proceeding. You would have said what as the Commander in Chief to a new lieutenant’s request at a celebration?
And a “chest bump” or granting a serviceman’s request is related to “courage” and “intellectualism,” how, exactly?
By GMAN
May 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management
Will your prayers be heard?
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
{{{{The economy plodded ahead at a 0.9 percent pace in the first quarter — slightly better than first estimated — but still underscoring caution on the part of consumers and businesses walloped by housing, credit and financial problems, blah, blah, blah.}}}}
Notice how the stunted wards of state can’t just report the news, they have to editorialize it with their idiotic doom and gloom?
The economy of the United States has been hit by the falling dollar, a home mortgage crisis and dimwit induced sky rocketing energy prices AND IT STILL GREW LAST QUARTER.
Bwahahahahaha, sucks, don’t it?
By mm
May 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Paul,
You have an excuse for everything.
By mm
May 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
Duh at 12:55,
{{{Notice how the stunted wards of state can’t just report the news, they have to editorialize it with their idiotic doom and gloom?}}}
Unlike you, most people live in reality.
{{{The economy of the United States has been hit by the falling dollar, a home mortgage crisis and dimwit induced sky rocketing energy prices AND IT STILL GREW LAST QUARTER.}}}
Glad to see you admit Bush is a Dimwit.
By Midori
May 29, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
ONE OF THE RICE WOMEN is going to be able to look at herself in the mirror. (yes and it will be Condi.)
well, how else is she going to make sure she gets all the jizz off her face after fellating Dubya?
After all, that’s all she’s good for.
That’s one job description I’d like to see.
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
Midori!
You are so bad! :-)
Paul,
Um, the President could have said, “no, I don’t think that’s appropriate.”
By Midori
May 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Couple of reviews from Amazon.com, re: Scotty’s book:
“It was as certain as heat in a Texas summer that Bush’s chokehold on those who know the ugly truth about his administration would not last forever. We are finally realizing as a nation how badly Bush’s criminally incompetent, arrogant, dishonest presidency has come to destroying our prosperity and our very way of life. The fact that gas will surely hit $6 - $8 in the near future is only the tip of the iceburg. The price crunch was inevitable, but predictable, and Bush wasted 7 1/2 years on policies based on the assumption that oil would forever be cheap and plentiful. We’ve only begun to experience the consequences of this single major blunder. The biggest Bush legacies will be a trillion-dollar pointless and endless “war,” and the crippling effects that two terms without a realistic energy policy has only begun to bring….”
By Midori
May 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
LOL, Bosch — Bad to the bone!!!
Here’s another review:
“…No, it wasn’t WMD’s. Bush was influenced by his war cabinet to invade Iraq to seize a valuable piece of real estate. This power grab was going to change the balance of power in the Middle East and change history, but Bush forgot to read the history books. They demonstrate how many times we failed to democratize a country in our many attempts starting with the Philipines in 1898. After the Cold War, many democratized of their own accord, but war is not a thing to initiate on a hunch. They democratized themselves when they were ready.”
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
{{{{By mm May 29, 2008 1:09 PM Unlike you, most people live in reality.}}}}
mmoron: Yes, it is reality that some people are successful and drive the U.S. economy to a positive growth rate.
And then it is also true that some people are utter failures, mouth breathing morons incapable of finding success in the largest economy in the world and who beg the government to carry them through life, like a parasite, longing to drag all the rest of us down to their sorry level. Like you, for instance.
Thanks for pointing that out.
By Midori
May 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
one more for the road:
“The only thing less surprising than Scott McClellan’s tale of Bush hubris and deception is the plethora of reviews by people who haven’t read the book, and the division between one star and five star ratings. Those ratings reflect the percent of Americans who regard Bush as a simpleton puppet run by Cheney and Rove versus the smaller percent who think Bush is saving us from Muslim terrorists who are hiding behind the trees in our backyards.”
“Paul O’Neil - high-level (Secretary of the Treasury) republican Bush appointed insider - Lieya!
Richard Clarke - high-level republican Bush appointed insider - Lieya!
Scotty McClellan - high-level republican Bush appointed insider - Lieya!
Up = Down Black = White Right = Left Truth = Lies Lies = Truth
… and it’s always “Bill Clinton’s fault” or the “liberal mainstream media’s fault” on conservative - nation building, tax cut for the rich and deficit spend, let televangelists set social policy - idiot bizarro-world.”
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Midori May 29, 2008 1:21 PM The price crunch was inevitable, but predictable, and Bush wasted 7 1/2 years on policies based on the assumption that oil would forever be cheap and plentiful.}}}}
It is cheap and plentiful but the dhimmikrat environmental terrorists won’t let us drill for it.
Geez, how stupid can you liberals be?
By HECKler
May 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
[[That’s one job description I’d like to see.]]
midori is unemployed and looking.
trash!
By Georgia74
May 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Do these Bush supporting Repuds ever tell the truth about anything? One of their own finally fesses up and no one will admit anything, got to give ‘em credit they have lied so long they believe their own lies. We have a whole administration of George Castanzas.
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
{{{{The serious daily tracking polls, Rasmussen and Gallup, show John McCain with a 3-4 % national popular vote lead. This is a stunning result given the general weakness of the Republican Party this year, the low approval ratings for President Bush, the strong perception the county is headed in the wrong direction, the still unpopular Iraq war, the economic slowdown, gas and food prices, and what was supposed to be a consolidation among Democrats for Obama now that the media chorus has awarded him the nomination.}}}}
{{{{It is I think a reflection of the weakness of Obama as a candidate. Starting with the revelations about Reverend Wright, the Obama campaign has dropped from the semi-celestial status it enjoyed in the eyes of many. The gaffe-a-day express, the foot in mouth disease among Obama advisors, the glaringly weak posture on national security and foreign relations the candidate has put forth (and for which several times he has been forced to backtrack), all have damaged Obama’s chances. Now he is a mere mortal — except to the true believers, and they are not enough to put him over the top in a general election.}}}}
Can you say President McBushie?
By Midori
May 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Heckler —
HEAP!!!
Is that where you and your alter ego Andy shop for groceries?
By kevin
May 29, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
Like i said if gore had been the president when this all happen in 2001 n Iraq u all be singin his approval n stuff….and the other party been blastin his war n stuff u all be sayin they un-american etc n etc…..But when bush wins 8 years term..That for years each for u people…and depends us n stops the evil muslims doin more its oh we should kiss them n stuff…Make all better n give in…No way and Omaba are Omomma will not win in Nov elections be McCann if u want bad leaders it be if Omamma is elected….and its cause he black so u can not say its Racist in any way!
By Morningstar
May 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
By Goldie May 29, 2008 10:00 AM there was a great “Frontline” report on PBS back in March or April, and it was very revealing how Dubya, Rummy and Darth Vader beat down Colin Powell and Condi back in 2002, and got them to bow down to their propaganda machine for invading Iraq!
Colin Powell has been quite clear regarding his frustration with the President’s decision to invade Iraq, spending hours trying to warn the President of the dire consequences of this invasion. Colin Powell has class. He’s a true “gentleman,” and there are few of those these days.
By kevin
May 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
Like i said if gore had been the president when this all happen in 2001 n Iraq u all be singin his approval n stuff….and the other party been blastin his war n stuff u all be sayin they un-american etc n etc…..But when bush wins 8 years term..That for years each for u people…and depends us n stops the evil muslims doin more its oh we should kiss them n stuff…Make all better n give in…No way and Omaba are Omomma will not win in Nov elections be McCann if u want bad leaders it be if Omamma is elected….and its not cause he black so u can not say its Racist in any way shape are form!
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Great minds think alike:
{{{{What don’t the critics like? Democracy? The defeat of al Qaeda? Muslims turning to the US military for help? Troop cuts? The dramatically improved human-rights situation? What’s the problem here?-Ralph Peters}}}}
Do tell us, dimwits.
By mm
May 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Duh at 1:23,
I love it when you call me names like a 3rd grader.
You mean old Mr. Cranky Pants, you.
Now be a good boy and take your meds.
By Morningstar
May 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
By Bosch May 29, 2008 9:35 AM The tell all book I want to read will come from Colin Powell. I want to hear how it all went down from that guy.
Bosch, I didn’t see your (above) post earlier. This is also the book I want to read. I doubt any sane person would question Colin Powell.
By @@
May 29, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
There are those conservatives who have questioned whether Obama has “nuts”.
I’m here to say Obama DOES have nuts, and they don’t fall far from the tree neither…
In fact, Obama’s Acorn connection is far more extensive. In the few stories where Obama’s role as an Acorn “leadership trainer” is noted, or his seats on the boards of foundations that may have supported Acorn are discussed, there is little follow-up.
(((Sol Stern explains that Acorn is the key modern successor of the radical 1960’s “New Left,” with a “1960’s-bred agenda of anti-capitalism” to match. Acorn, says Stern, grew out of “one of the New Left’s silliest and most destructive groups, the National Welfare Rights Organization.” In the 1960’s, NWRO launched a campaign of sit-ins and disruptions at welfare offices. ——?The goal was to remove eligibility restrictions, and thus effectively flood welfare rolls with so many clients that the system would burst. The theory, explains Stern, was that an impossibly overburdened welfare system would force “a radical reconstruction of America’s unjust capitalist economy.”<—— Instead of a socialist utopia, however, we got the culture of dependency and family breakdown that ate away at America’s inner cities — until welfare reform began to turn the tide.)))
ACORN endorses their comrade Barack Obama.
Leaving all of you with the reminder that ACORN has been convicted of voter fraud, THIS voter is “motoring on.”
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
Morningstar,
The operative word being “sane.”
:-)
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May 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
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By Morningstar
May 29, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
By Midori May 29, 2008 1:23 PM No, it wasn’t WMD’s. Bush was influenced by his war cabinet to invade Iraq to seize a valuable piece of real estate.
Midori, we must not forget that this ‘valuable’ real estate contained the world’s second largest supply of oil!!! And we do need that oil!!! Too bad we didn’t pursue those alternative suggestions made 30 years ago….Methinks I’ll go somewhere and ‘cry myself to sleep.’
By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
George Bush Authorized the Leak of Valerie Wilson’s Identity…..Scottie McC doesn’t know it yet. But that’s basically what he revealed this morning on the Today Show (h/t Rayne). During the interview, Scottie revealed the two things that really p** him off with the Bush Administration. First, being set up to lie by Karl Rove and Scooter Libby. And second, learning that Bush had—himself—authorized the selective leaking of the NIE.
By Paul
May 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Mm 12:57
Excuse = something you don’t want to consider?
Specifics? Vote-count analysis? Supreme Court decisions? Colin Powell or McClellan assessment? Obama and Afghanistan? Fox hosing the competition? Or are you referring to the truly momentous event of the day – the chest bump?
Bosch
Yeah, he could have. But it was a celebration – four years of surrealism followed by the closest thing to a blow-out they’ll see. I gather that generation regards a chest bump in much the same way as an earlier generation regarded a high five. But more manly. The new lieutenant sure appreciated it, from the article.
Then again, I thought of your response when the girl asked President Clinton if he wore briefs or boxers. And he answered.
Morningstar 1:54
“I doubt any sane person would question Colin Powell.”
You haven’t been here all that long, have you?
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May 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
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By IN THE NEWS
May 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
What Bush Knew Before Sept. 11…..CBS) President Bush was told in the months before the Sept. 11 attacks that Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network might hijack U.S. passenger planes - information which prompted the administration to issue an alert to federal agencies - but not the American public…..The report, entitled the “Sociology and Psychology of Terrorism: Who Becomes a Terrorist and Why?,” warned the executive branch that bin Laden’s terrorists might hijack an airliner and dive bomb it into the Pentagon or other government building…… And it’s come out that an agent in the FBI’s Arizona office also speculated about using planes as weapons, writing in his case notes about Zacarias Moussaoui that Moussaoui seemed like the type of person who was capable of flying an aircraft into the World Trade Center…….Separately, the New York Times reports that an FBI agent in Arizona warned his superiors last summer that bin Laden might be sending students to U.S. flight schools……According to Fleischer, after the information was presented to President Bush in August, the administration put domestic agencies on alert in the summer, just months before the Sept. 11 attacks. That alert was not announced publicly but Fleischer suggested it may have prompted the hijackers to change their tactics. “The administration, based on hijackings, notified the appropriate agencies and, I think, that’s one of the reasons that you saw that the people who committed the 9-11 attacks used box cutters and plastic knives to get around America’s system of protecting against hijackings,” he said. Fleischer did not say which agencies were put on alert and what they did in response…..A U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the CIA had continuously informed policymakers throughout the summer before Sept. 11 that bin Laden and his network might try to harm U.S. interests and discussed a range of possibilities that included hijackings.
By Morningstar
May 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
By Paul May 29, 2008 2:24 PM Morningstar 1:54 “I doubt any sane person would question Colin Powell.” You haven’t been here all that long, have you?
Well good afternoon Paul! Hopefully I’ll be able to provide a little ‘chuckle’ for you today. I know there are those who would question Powell! Zillions of them. The wingnuts on this blog to name a few. Methinks that Powell is about as close to obtaining the truth as we’re ever gonna get. I believe this, just as I believe in the DRAFT (yesterdays big discussion) which keeps people honest as opposed to living in dreamland. It also worked!!!
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Paul,
EWWWWW. Now I have an image of Clinton in his underwear stuck in my head. I need a drink.
Hey, I just thought of something. How many more episodes of BSG are left?
Morningstar,
Paul is right. Dusty would start calling him an unpatriotic traitor as quick as she could type out the words.
By Paul
May 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
ITN 2:24
That’s interesting. Funny how Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald didn’t come to that conclusion. In fact, he said flat out Richard Armitage at State was the source.
All those years, all those millions, all those lawyers and the guy couldn’t get it correct -
BTW - technically, the Pres can’t “leak” in the sense you’re describing. The Office has ultimate classification authority. So what he classifies, he can declassify.
Anyhow, while Armitage said Valerie worked at the CIA, I thought it was her husband who first went public with the allegation she was “covert.”
Anyone know how much Valerie made off her book? Santa Fe real estate don’t come cheap.
By Morningstar
May 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
By @@ May 29, 2008 2:04 PM There are those conservatives who have questioned whether Obama has “nuts”. I’m here to say Obama DOES have nuts, and they don’t fall far from the tree neither…
WHAT???? Did I say sompin earlier about class? Just a’wonderin. Geez.
By Paul
May 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
Morningstar 2:34
You did. Thanks!
Oh – and I used to be really bothered by the draft. Then I got new door insulation. Worked wonders.
Bosch 2:34
It’s five o’clock somewhere!
Since the conversation’s declining to a Friday at 5 pm level (Morningstar - that’s usually when “class” evaporates) (your continuing the underwear discussion) – I’ll tag along (the rest of you- either stop reading or don’t complain). Was in a store a while back with my wife. I hate shopping. Was in men’s wear, standing in front of a boxer/brief display. There was a middle-aged woman next to us. My wife asked “why don’t you get some boxers? Those dark ones look nice.” I said “Dark boxers? How would I know when they needed to get washed?”
The lady stared at me and walked away. My wife slugged me.
Oh, and please, don’t get me in the crossfire with you and Dusty!
By Morningstar
May 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
By Paul May 29, 2008 2:49 PM Morningstar 2:34 You did. Thanks! Oh – and I used to be really bothered by the draft. Then I got new door insulation. Worked wonders.
Yeah!!!! Mission Accomplished! Have a great evening y’all!
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Novak is never wrong:
{{{{Electoral College Outlook: McCain 270, Obama 268 by Robert Novak}}}}
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
Are you smarter than a high schooler?:
{{{{The entire exercise is surreal. How could we possibly find a less intelligent group of people? I have asked high schoolers this simple question — If Congress raises taxes on oil companies, how will it impact the price of gasoline? Every high schooler I asked immediately understood and explained that if the oil companies have to pay more taxes, gasoline will cost more. If high school kids get it, why can’t Congress?}}}}
Not if you are a dhimmokrat.
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
Paul,
I just involuntarily spit on my computer. That’s a funny story. I hate shopping too. I can honestly say, I hate shopping worse than George W. Bush. Now, that’s saying something. They have boxer/brief displays at stores? Where do you buy your freaking underwear?
Oh, you know Dusty loves you - she’d never criticize anything you say. She would spin it some how so that it would all be my fault and that I was just corrupting you.
By Devastator
May 29, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
Boys, Boys! Please take it easy on the underwear talk. You’ll make it too easy for duh!
By Bosch
May 29, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Devastator,
Well, Paul started it.
By Dusty
May 29, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Err Paul,@2:49
What crossfire? I haven’t given Morningstar a thought. Did she have one?
When I was working with the White Mountain Apaches, I met another Morningstar, a young native American from Texas who was working on his PhD sponsored by Johns Hopkins University. He was one of the most enjoyable people I was fortunate enough to meet there. We had many happy conversations from our diverse backgrounds which made it even more interesting. His name seemed to go with his effervescent and thoughtful personality.
Well, I just wanted to tell you about another “Morningstar”, a most enjoyable one.
By @@
May 29, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
(((WHAT???? Did I say sompin earlier about class? Just a’wonderin. Geez.)))
Me too Morningstar…did ‘ya?
It’s rare that I read posts here anymore.
I’ve always thought C. Powell was higher on a class scale. Me…..?
Somewhere in the middle. Did ‘ya see Midori’s?
Whaddya think…lower class?
I’d like to offer my apologies if you found “Obama’s nuts” offensive. I haven’t seen ‘em, just his ACORNS.
By Midori
May 29, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
@@,
all of your taste is in your mouth.
Bleech
I detect some Dubya juice dribbling from your socket as well.
Paul - see your’e in top GOP form. Lather. Rinse. Repeat:
{{{Anyhow, while Armitage said Valerie worked at the CIA, I thought it was her husband who first went public with the allegation she was “covert.” }}}}}
By Truthman
May 29, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
The Scott McClellan talk here today if priceless! I feel lik Flounder in “Animal House” just before the Delta House boys ruin the parade of the pompous, bigoted townspeople!!
Hope the Bushies like prison clothes!! I know there are plenty of prisons in Texas where they can get to know their fellow criminals!!
Karl Rove as Scott Neidermayer (shot by his own troops!)
By Paul
May 29, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Dusty
I meant you and Bosch. Heavy artillery, at times.
I hope Morningstar stuck around long enough to read your post.
Good panel today on Diane Rehm show. “Al Qaeda and Jihadist Dissent Al Qaeda’s global leadership faces dissent from those they once counted among their ranks. Guests discuss whether the terrorism organization’s influence may be on the decline ten years after Osama bin Laden declared jihad against the United States.”
If you can listen and concentrate on work while on a computer it’s a good hour spent. It’s archived for playback.
Link: Al Qaeda and Jihadist Dissent
When I listen to such programs while bouncing back to this forum I wonder if people realize just how fortunate we have it when it comes to dissent.
By Truthman
May 29, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
MEDIA KOW-TOWS TO ADMIN WONKS ON LEAD-UP TO BUSH’S WAR FOR OIL:
It seems only Katie Couric and CNN’s Jessica Yellin - both women interestingly - admit the mainstream media was hijacked by corporate pigs more beholden to the Bush regime than to their sacred trust as the Fourth Estate of our nation!
“Only CBS’s Katie Couric was prepared to call it “one of the most embarrassing chapters in American journalism.” She added, “I think there was a sense of pressure from corporations who own where we work, and from the government itself, to really squash any kind of dissent.”
CNN correspondent Jessica Yellin expressed much the same sentiments as Couric on Wednesday evening, when she stated on Anderson Cooper 360, “I think the press corps dropped the ball at the beginning. When the lead-up to the war began, the press corps was under enormous pressure from corporate executives, frankly, to make sure that this was a war that was presented in a way that was consistent with the patriotic fever in the nation and the president’s high approval ratings.”
Liberal media bias my A$$!!!
By Paul
May 29, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
Midori
Now, really. Not everyone here who posts is an advocate. Sometimes it’s the old interview style of asking a challenging question. Kinda like O’Reilly did last night with a lawyer who’s leading a drive for a gay marriage constitutional amendment in Calif. Did the same thing, ended with “well, counselor, I don’t think you’ve made your case.” Doesn’t mean BOR opposes or advocates the amendment.
But if you have a rational, opposing view I’d like to hear it. Really. Change is good.
Oh, just read your Plame remark. As I noted lonnnngggg ago, Mr. Wilson’s reference was the first public one I’d seen using the word “covert.” I thought we’d talked about it? And about the difficulty of obtaining convictions under the statutes as they were then written?
Which leads to the point I’ve made repeatedly - if there is a danger that covert agent’s lives can be easily compromised with no repercussions, then why on earth, after a year and a half, has this Democratic Congress done zip, zero, nada to correct that deficiency? It’s an easy fix.
The fact they haven’t says loads. Sad, isn’t it?
@@
The NPR link was for you, too. As is this:
Link: Rise of Ahmadinejad rival hints at a shift in Iran
Also talk this morning about how Syria’s ready to jettison cooperation with Iraq, if US responds positively (read: aid $$$). I do hope the administration’s past the ideological blinders point and exploits this.
By Truthman
May 29, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
Anybody…ANYBODY who quotes Bill-O is out of their mind.
BTW: Poll in CA shows 52% support gay unions, 40% against. I’d say that show ‘The Will Of The People!’
By Truthman
May 29, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
I’ll bet those Cherokee Co. cops are real proud to themselves busting up their little pot plant garden!!
BFD! Most people these days are growing their own and their is very little the bacon-boys can do about it!!
HA, HA, HA!!
Can’t wait for President Obama to decriminalize (legalize?).
‘Smoke Weed Every Day!’
By Paul
May 29, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
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Correction: should have read Syria was ready to jettison their relationship with Iran.
Midori - so there’s no confusion - the attorney wanted a constitutional amendment AGAINST gay marriage - that’s what O’Reilly challenged him on. For you, too, Truthman.
Truthman: so anyone who uses Bill O’Reilly’s argument with which he took apart the anti-gay marriage attorney is out of their mind?
Or who says Feds should leave alone illegals unless they commit a felony?
Or who says the oil companies are hosing us?
Or who says child rapists should go to prison, not sentenced to probation?
You sure ‘bout that?
By @@
May 29, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
Midori:
You’re in a league of your own girlfriend.
(((I detect some Dubya juice dribbling from your socket as well.)))
I have no idea what ^^^ that means.
I do know that (((Bleech))) is spelled “Ble—>A<—ch” not “Bleech”.
I know that I frequently wash my clothes (whites) in bleach. Do you use a special mouthwash known as Bleech?
You often post “Lather. Rinse. Repeat.”
I guess I now know why.
Eeeewwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!
By Midori
May 29, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Paul,
God didn’t make little green apples and it don’t rain in Minneapolis in the summertime.
How’s that for a rational, opposing view?
Makes about as much sense as yours.
Truthman - now your point is certainly rational (the one about Bill O’Reilly).
By Midori
May 29, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
@@,
I’ve come across some of your wedding photos.
NOW I understand why you’re such an immature snit.
Never quite grew up, did you?
By Dusty
May 29, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
Oh, I was mistaken,Paul. It was “crossfire” with Bosch. Still, what crossfire? I use little fire with the childish Bosch, even though he’s kinda cute once and awhile. I like puppies too.
By Tony
May 29, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
Dubya (10:57); Great post and oh so true. Just watching the horrors all unfold, in a country half of which is too ignorant to grasp those facts of life as they spin ever downwards into obsurity.
By Midori
May 29, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
Bush Reelect Campaign Director:”McClellan savaged for saying what everyone knows to be true”
By Tony
May 29, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
Dubya (10:57); Great post and oh so true. Just watching the horrors all unfold, in a country half of which is too ignorant to grasp those facts of life as they spin ever downwards into obscurity.
By Tony
May 29, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
Dubya (10:57); Great post and oh so true. Just watching the horrors all unfold, in a country half of which is too ignorant to grasp those facts of life as they spin ever downwards into obscurity.
By Paul
May 29, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
Midori 4:09
So by that, and the usual standards of discourse that exist here, am I to understand you take the opposite view of each of the issues I cited upon which O’Reilly has taken the position stated?
Or the positive things he’s said about Obama’s campaign? Does citing those comments make one “out of their mind?”
By Steve
May 29, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
The dustmite takes a break from swabbing the mens’room, @@ and homo-AJC Man are talking Republicon-tough to the ladies here. Same/same.
By Midori
May 29, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
Bill O’Reilly doesn’t need to open his mouth to be deem “out of his mind”.
Wonder where he fits in here?
By Daniel
May 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
Gee Whiz, McClellan really rakes them over the coals! The subtitle of the book is: “Culture of Deception”. The Bush spin was: “Culture of Life”.
Wolfowitz has also fessed up. He confessed “We were clueless” about the Iraq invasion. The only people left are those Abramoff referred to as: “Troglodytes and morons”.
By Dusty
May 29, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
Steve@4:31
I don’t know which men’s rooms are your special hangouts but I don’t use’em or clean ‘em. That’s your job or whatever you call it.
Bye now, and keep it clean and safe.
By @@
May 29, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
Midori says:
(((NOW I understand why you’re such an immature snit.))) after posting this?
(((God didn’t make little green apples and it don’t rain in Minneapolis in the summertime.)))
(((How’s that for a rational, opposing view?)))
followed by some cartoon links?
Anyhoo…moving on and UP.
Paul:
Thanks for the NPR link. I’d say Al Qaeda is finished when all they can recruit are 12 year olds as suicide bombers.
I dropped in on Stratfor for the first time in a couple of days. It’s been slow over there and in the ME which indicates to me that something is in the works. As I was saying….
I drop in and find George Friedman waxing philosophical with some piece entitled “The Love of One’s Own and the Importance of Place”.
Normally I would enjoy that kinda stuff, but I was LOOKIN’ FOR NEWS.
Both Olmert and Ahmadenijad are experiencing troubles at home. That concerns me in Israel’s discussions with Syria BUT it’s being said that Olmert’s troubles will have no negative impact on Israel’s negotiations with Syria.
Egypt and Turkey are very active in all of the ME negotiations. That’s fine with me. The impact of extremism hits closer to homeplate. They’re motivated and allies of a sort.
And….The majority, pro-Western leaders, in the Lebanese parliament decided to support retaining Fuad Saniora as prime minister.
I think I read where they were bringing 4,000 of the surge force home from Iraq.
Nothin’ left but the wait.
By Paul
May 29, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
Midori 4:09
Well, since you asked, usually you do better.
But your 4:37 reminded me of the classic “I made a rash statement and rather than say so and give the impression of weakness and that the other side could have some good, I’ll try to avoid a direct response and divert attention with a name or a question.”
Point to consider: Both Obama and McCain have talked about a new way to campaign and conduct politics. By and large they’ve adhered to that – both have made a few lapses.
Isn’t it possible there are a few undecideds out there who will look at the ardent supporters and see if they, too, share their candidates’ ideals? And decide if the candidate can’t persuade his own supporters to go along with a new style of politics, then what’s to be gained by voting for them and why not vote for the other guy?
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Steve May 29, 2008 4:31 PM The dustmite takes a break from swabbing the mens’room, @@ and homo-AJC Man are talking Republicon-tough to the ladies here. Same/same.}}}}
My bad.
I didn’t realize you were a girl, stevie.
By Paul
May 29, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
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Rather reminds me of a couple with young kids and one of them says “It’s too quiet… I don’t hear anything. That can only mean trouble!”
By Artie
May 29, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this
A typically incoherent cartoon from Luckovich today; so mindless, really, that we can expect his paymasters to submit this vaguely anti-establishment graffito to the Pulitzer Correctness Committee for yet another confirmation of the passing and burial of newspaper journalism.
By @@
May 29, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
(((Unfortunately for Tehran, the diplomatic delays plaguing the South Pars project represent only one of many problems Iran is facing in developing its energy sector. Instead of reaping the benefits of major windfall revenues from soaring crude prices, Iran is feeling the financial crunch from having to import vast amounts of gasoline to meet domestic demand and store millions of barrels of unsold heavy sour crude on expensive tankers off the Iranian coast. The more precarious the energy situation gets for Iran, the greater the opportunity Washington has to push Iran into fruitful negotiations. And for energy firms such as Total, Shell and Repsol, that is an opportunity worth waiting for.)))
Whodathunkit! Big energy companies just waiting, money in hand, to help bolster negotiations errrr….Iran’s economy.
Think positive Paul…THINK POSITIVE! otherwise I’m gonna suspect you of being a leftist.
Ohmmmmmmmm
Ohmmmmmmmm
Ohmmmmmmmm
now here’s the bad news.
(((The United States is asking the International Atomic Energy Agency to search for more nuclear facilities in Syria, the Washington Post reported May 29, citing unnamed sources. U.S. officials reportedly have identified three sites of possible nuclear activity and passed the locations to the U.N. nuclear watchdog group. One site that allegedly held a nuclear development facility was destroyed in September 2007 by Israeli warplanes.))) but then again….
It may be what’s got Syria engaging in talks.
Who the heck knows!
Ohmmmmmmmmm
Ohmmmmmmmmm
Ohmmmmmmmmm
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this
@@: Very intuitive on Imawhackjob, I found this little item earlier today:
{{{{In what appears to be the biggest case of corruption in Iran, and perhaps in the Middle East, the Tehran-based Shahab News reported that the chief auditing office of the Iranian parliament (Majlis) has revealed that close to $35 billion of oil income from the financial year 2006-07 is missing.}}}}
It is the duty of Obambi’s buddy to collect and turn over that money to the mad mullahs, who I’m sure are probably pretty irate about the whole thing.
Somebody is going to get buried in the sand up to their neck and stoned over this and it won’t be no homo. Well, then again, you never know about those Islamic lunatics, they’ll cover a woman head to toe and then go rape preteen boys, it’s sorta like a Muslim version of liberalism.
Anyway, I just wonder if the Plameless CIA had anything to do with it.
Pretty sneaky.
By Donovan
May 29, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
Ohmmmmmmoneymoneymoneymoney…
Ohmmmmmmoneymoneymoneymoney…
Ohmmmmmmoneymoneymoneymoney…
By Morningstar
May 29, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
By Dusty May 29, 2008 3:24 PM Err Paul,@2:49 What crossfire? I haven’t given Morningstar a thought. Did she have one?
Chello Dusty! Was Paulie was referring to a possible crossfire between me and thee? Bad mistake!! Choo might like to go back and read…huh???? I’m thinking of furnishing a couple receipes for sweet rolls ASAP!
By Paul
May 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
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How could anyone NOT react positively to news like that? When people talk about encouraging our interests, bringing pressure to bear, encouraging the opposition - this is one way it’s done.
Donovan
Money and Power. The two great motivators.
By Morningstar
May 29, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this
By @@ May 29, 2008 3:33 PM It’s rare that I read posts here anymore.
LIKEWISE. USUALLY (NOT ALWAYS) ONLY EXTREME CRAZIES ARE CONSTANT BLOGGERS! A FEW SANE PEOPLE DO EXIST HERE.
I’d like to offer my apologies if you found “Obama’s nuts” offensive. I haven’t seen ‘em, just his ACORNS.
DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OBAMA’S NUTS. DON’T WISH TO KNOW. MORE EXTREMELY LOW CLASS JUNK! OUTTA HERE.
By Jesus
May 29, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By Morningstar
May 29, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this
By @@ May 29, 2008 5:41 PM | The more precarious the energy situation gets for Iran, the greater the opportunity Washington has to push Iran into fruitful negotiations. And for energy firms such as Total, Shell and Repsol, that is an opportunity worth waiting for.)))
Now who is surprised???? Me thinks me may have a little sick spell!!!! Bwaaa.
By AJC/DNC Management
May 29, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this
Yeah, right:
{{{{DEAN READY TO LOWER THE BOOM}}}}
Your boy may go after Bruno with his “boom” but he’ll come back with his nuts in the cracker.
I wouldn’t even try it.
By Politcal Foreskin
May 29, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
Cartoon idea: show a desperate hillary in the Miley Cyrus pose looking back at the camera bare back holding the fabric to hide her dirty pillows, with Bill peeking out from under the fabric somewhere. and then the tag line would be……….does anyone want to take a stab at this before I spill?
What would the tag line be? Write your own joke here…
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