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By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this
Peak Oil and Politicians ……When speaking of energy issues, politicians will often use the euphemism of energy security, acknowledging that the US has only three percent of the world’s oil reserves and warning that most of the rest of it belongs to unfriendly or unstable governments. While there is truth to this type of statement, it sets up a framework for conflict by creating the perception that there is plenty of oil left but bad people are keeping it away from us……
By Goldie
May 22, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
America is paying a high price for allowing Big Oil to control our energy policies since the Reagan years!
We have the smartest scientists here in America… why can’t we focus those scientific talents on creating alternative fuel sources, instead of continuing to extract black goop from the ground in order to drive our cars? We’ve used that black goop as a fuel source for over 100 years, and we can’t come up with anything new??? We have satellite technology available right now — why aren’t we developing cars that can run by satellites? Just pay a monthly fee and off you drive!
Oh, that’s right — what would the Big Oil executives do for their MILLION $$$ bonuses if they allowed alternative sources for our cars???
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
What to Do About the Oil Crisis….If the credit and housing crises weren’t enough, now oil prices are breaking through the stratosphere. What to do? The President criticized Democrats in Congress today for barring oil drilling on the Alaskan tundra. If he thinks that will bring down oil prices, he’s even farther out of his mind than I feared. Even if such drilling were environmentally safe (and it’s not — remember BP?) it would amount to a miniscule addition to global oil supples…..That’s why it’s time for a windfall profits tax on oil companies to finance our way to sensible and sustainable sources of energy. Forget the summer tax holiday on gas. We need a permanent holiday from oil.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
Let’s see. Roswell racists publish picture of president-elect Obama in crosshairs on 15 May. Within days, tornadoes crash through N. Fulton near paper’s HQ.
Hmmm…maybe there is a god?
By Copyleft
May 22, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
Cartoon: Eventually, we’re going to have to just cross air-travel off the list as “No longer an option.”
By Bosch
May 22, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
Great cartoon - shows the ways businesses are forced to make up for higher oil.
At the grocery store, they could start charging fees for cart use, fees to enter each department in the store (want some produce? that will be $20 bucks to get in), fees for bagging, and a fee to park in the parking lot.
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
Ralph Peters flushed them out of their ratholes:
{{{{Do we still have troops in Iraq? Is there still a conflict over there?}}}}
{{{{If you rely on the so-called mainstream media, you may have difficulty answering those questions these days. As Iraqi and Coalition forces pile up one success after another, Iraq has magically vanished from the headlines.-New York Post}}}}
But that didn’t stop the Urinal/DNC from trying to camouflage the good news:
{{{{World in brief: Offensive curbs attacks-AJC/DNC}}}}
What offense?
{{{{The number of daily attacks in Mosul has dropped at least 85 percent since U.S.-Iraqi forces began an offensive against Sunni insurgents there May 10, the top U.S. commander in northern Iraq said Wednesday. Maj. Gen. Mark Hertling attributed the decrease mostly to the large numbers of troops on the streets, an initial curfew, extensive preparations and construction of new checkpoints. Meanwhile, U.S. soldiers killed 11 suspected Shiite gunmen near Baghdad’s sprawling Sadr City slum, the military said.}}}}
I imagine there was much disdain and revulsion setting the type for this article, none of the usual anti American glee, and I truly wonder how long will it continue?
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{{{{One thing that all these Democrats have in common is a colossal moral superiority. As we have seen before, they repeatedly presume to set the terms of political debate. They rule over the appropriateness of words and strategies, telling us what the Republicans can and cannot say. Now they have ruled the word “appeasement” to be “reckless,” “outrageous,” and bereft of “dignity.” The term has been applied to opponents of a forceful foreign policy for two generations during which forceful foreign policy kept America secure. Alas, in this election the Democrats have ruled the word appeasement out of bounds.}}}}
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
Maybe this guy really is a “moderate:”
{{{{And food prices are unlikely to recede any time soon, either. A perfect storm of circumstances has conspired to create shortages: drought, higher transportation costs, foolish subsidies for corn-based ethanol and, most of all, increasing worldwide >>>>>>demand.<<<<<< As consumers in countries such as India and China have grown wealthier, their appetite for many things, including meat and dairy products, has increased.-Andre Jackson, Urinal/DNC}}}}
So the answer here is to either produce more or cut back on our standard of living, you know, put on a sweater if you get cold.
Which way do you reckon the pinko presidential kandidate wants to go?:
{{{{“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.}}}}
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{{{{McCain, to his great credit, has had the guts to make a strong stand against the Farm Bill, even going so far as to pen a column against it for the Chicago Tribune. If either chamber of Congress sustains Bush’s veto after the overwhelming votes in favor of the Farm Bill when it originally passed, it will send a message that McCain has enough clout to change minds and votes, and also revivify a conservative base that right now is as dispirited as it has been in decades.}}}}
{{{{All of this is a status quo that both political parties can believe in. More than a few liberal Democrats are privately embarrassed by this corporate welfare spectacle. But they’ve been mollified by Speaker Pelosi, who spent the last week assuring her left that the bill also includes another $10.4 billion for food stamps and nutrition programs. This entitlement expansion comes only days after the Congressional Budget Office reported that paying the bills for existing entitlements could require tax rates to climb to 80% in the future. Yes we can!}}}}
By Goldie
May 22, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Diplomacy and/or talking with our enemies is not appeasement… once again, the Repugs need to educate themselves before stepping in that deep doo-doo!
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
A Better Solution for Gas Prices
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Washington - A Senate panel voted narrowly Wednesday to overturn EPA’s decision blocking California and more than a dozen other states from limiting greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
{{{{What Friedrich Hayek called the “fatal conceit” — the idea that government can know the future’s possibilities and can and should control the future’s unfolding — is the left’s agenda. The left exists to enlarge the state’s supervision of life, narrowing individual choices in the name of collective goods. Hence the left’s hostility to markets. And to automobiles — people going wherever they want whenever they want.}}}}
{{{{Today’s “green left” is the old “red left” revised. Marx, a short-term pessimist but a long-term optimist, prophesied deepening class conflict, but thought that history’s violent dialectic would culminate in a revolution that would usher in material abundance and such spontaneous cooperation that the state would wither away.}}}}
{{{{The green left preaches pessimism: Ineluctable scarcities (of energy, food, animal habitats, humans’ living space) will require a perpetual regime of comprehensive rationing. The green left understands that the direct route to government control of almost everything is to stigmatize, as a planetary menace, something involved in almost everything — carbon.}}}}
{{{{Environmentalism is, as Lawson writes, an unlimited “license to intrude.” “Eco-fundamentalism,” which is “the quasi-religion of green alarmism,” promises “global salvationism.” Onward, green soldiers, into preventive war on behalf of some bears who are simultaneously flourishing and “threatened.”}}}}
By Bosch
May 22, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
Manchester United!!!!! Way to go guys! Sorry Chelsea - just wasn’t your day!
By truthman
May 22, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
I think Prince should be at Obama’s inauguration, too!
By getalife
May 22, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
10 bucks for one bag, 25 for two and 100 for three.
Globalization works for business but the people are screwed.
You will see our glorious government in action when the stock market crashes.
By Bosch
May 22, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Environmentalists are saving the world from people like AJC/Duh.
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
This is a good one from Obama: “While I always appreciate hearing the news from John McCain, he should explain to the American people why almost every single promise and prediction that he has made about Iraq has turned to be catastrophically wrong, including his support for a surge that was supposed to achieve political reconciliation. While John McCain offers his poor judgment in supporting George Bush’s war and a failed foreign policy that has left us less secure, I will continue to make the case for a new foreign policy that deploys all elements of American power — including tough, principled and direct diplomacy. It’s stunning that in such a lengthy written statement, John McCain could not articulate a single new idea that hasn’t been tried — and failed — over the last eight years.”
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Washington offers only tepid support as Jerusalem bucks the Bush administration’s anti-engagement policy to negotiate with its old foe.
YOU SAY APPEASEMENT, I SAY YOU’RE FULL OF IT
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
Sky-high oil prices are the BEST thing that could possibly happen to the world now. Eventually everyone, with the exception of the very rich, will have to make a CHANGE in their habits. We have to transition from a non-sustainable energy model to a sustainable one. As I have quoted before “using petroleum for transportation is like heating your home with $100 bills.” This is because petroleum can be used for so many other things than fuel.
Nissan plans to introduce an electric vehicle in 2010. That’s less than 2 years from now. Will your new car be electric?
The only energy form with even the remotest chance of replacing fossil fuels is solar. An area 92 miles on either side devoted to Concentrated Solar Power (CSP) could supply electricity to the entire US—24 hours a day.
Imagine if you had your OWN CSP POWER PLANT in your very own back yard or roof-top? Imagine if this power plant heated a cooled your home, supplied all the power you need, recharged your cars at night, and heats your hot water. Imagine if you didn’t have to BUY ANY ENERGY? In fact you could actually SELL ENERGY! The day is coming. We simply don’t have any choice. We have to go from unsustainability to a sustainable energy model.
Unfortunately, the transition is not going to happen without a lot of pain.
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
{{{{By Bosch May 22, 2008 9:44 AM Environmentalists are saving the world from people like AJC/Duh.}}}}
Bosch: Would you care to elaborate or are you just going to posit one of your idiotic statements upon the blog?
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
State to George H. W. Bush, “the smartest guy I know.”](http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/05/8306jamesbaker_neg.html)
OH NO! NOT SMART PEOPLE! DEY BE SCAREY!!!!
By getalife
May 22, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
“Appeasement goes mainstream — Israel, Syria sit down for talks”
Pakistan made peace with the Taliban.
Palestine next?
w lost, obl won.
By AmVet
May 22, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
Bosch, it was fun watching the Manchester United/Chelsea match.
As you know many Americans opine that soccer/football is boring. But these are oftentimes the same folks who think baseball is! And therefore need to be water boarded until they confess and change their ways!
Seriously, of course they are entitled to their views.
But take a spin around the dial these days and it is a veritable sports wasteland…
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
Bush’s Faith in Force and the Middle East in Flames COMMENTARY: The efficacy of violence has been the most fundamental belief in these last catastrophic years.
HOW MUCH HONEY CAN YOU GATHER WITH AN M-16?
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
{{{{By Soothsayer May 22, 2008 9:59 AM Nissan plans to introduce an electric vehicle in 2010. That’s less than 2 years from now. Will your new car be electric?}}}}
Moron: How is the electricity produced that charges the battery?
Are you not going to drive on cloudy days?
By AmVet
May 22, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Bosch, it was fun watching the Manchester United/Chelsea match.
As you know many Americans opine that soccer/football is boring. But these are oftentimes the same folks who think baseball is! And therefore need to be water boarded until they confess and change their ways!
Seriously, of course they are entitled to their views.
But take a spin around the dial these days and it is a veritable sports wasteland…
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Blah, blah, blah:
{{{{Promise: “Democrats have a plan to lower gas prices…join Democrats who are working to lower gas prices now.” – Then-Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Press Release, April 19, 2006}}}}
{{{{Promise: “Democrats promise to hit the ground running on energy issues if they win control of the House or Senate. Responding to voters’ concerns about $3-a-gallon gasoline and the soaring cost of home-heating oil, Democratic leaders in both chambers have ranked energy as one of their top priorities for the next Congress.” – “Energy Reserving a Front Burner,” National Journal, September 9, 2006}}}}
{{{{Promise: “Democrats stand for… finding meaningful solutions to our energy crisis. We will make America more competitive and not heap mountains of debt on future generations.” – Then-Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Press Conference, June 16, 2006}}}}
So how’s that $4.50 gallon of gasoline working out for y’all?
By Bosch
May 22, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
AmVet,
Sir Alex Ferguson has once again proved his brilliance, plus he’s got one of the best players on the Earth right now on his team (Ronaldo) earning his millions. Ronaldo is talking about playing in Spain - I think he’s just trying to increase his bank account numbers with idle threats, but guys like that can do it.
Great game, great game. Just like the World Cup - it all came down to penalty kicks. I hate that, but it’s so intense! Gotta feel for the Chelsea boys - I really like John Terry, Drogba, and Frank Lampart. Gotta feel for the guy, his mom died a couple weeks ago. I was talking to a German friend of mine earlier this morning and he hopes that Ballack’s unluckiness doesn’t rub off on the national team.
Soccer has two channels available in this country (probably more than that, those are the ones I have) devoted to the beautiful game - no other game has that.
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
In 2004, Estelle Richardson’s lifeless and battered body was found on the floor of a Corrections Corp. of America prison cell. Four years later, that unsolved homicide has come back to haunt Republican stalwart “Gus” Puryear, the nation’s top private prison litigator and Bush nominee for US District Court. We talk to journalist Silja Talvi.
YES, SIR, WE WANT ANOTHER 4 YEARS OR REALLY BAD JUDGES!
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Luckodunce:
On cloudy days you “buy” electricity from the grid. On sunny days you “sell” electricity to the grid. The sun is always shining somewhere. And, yes, there may be days when we have to use conventional power generation.
The concept is called distributed power (Small decentralized power generation). It differs from the megapower plants we have now.
“Moron” seems to be the common currency of your rants. From what I’ve read that you post, you should take a good look in the mirror. “Drill, drive giant, live large” is your mantra.
I guarantee that everything in my post will occur in some form in your lifetime if you are under 50.
By RW-(the original)
May 22, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
I’m running out for the day, but just so you know, I have a minimum of fourteen channels that are strictly baseball.
If I ever find myself suffering from insomnia I’ll try to find one of those two soccer channels though.
Later!
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
{{{{“Solar energy has been just around the corner for about 30 years,” said Joel Makower, a partner in Clean Edge, a Bay Area energy consulting firm, adding the industry’s inside joke: “And it’s still just around the corner.”}}}}
{{{{Prompted by the ensuing energy crisis, President Jimmy Carter pushed incentives during the late ’70s to promote solar and renewable energy. Environmentalist Denis Hayes, who organized the first Earth Day event and ran the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in the Carter administration, said he tried to get federal agencies to buy solar cells to create demand.}}}}
Anything else you want to add, moron?
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.
“Against stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain.”
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Today, the New York Times’s Helene Cooper writes that the “Bush administration’s own policies appear to be at odds” with the President’s recent pronouncement that talking to enemies is “appeasement.” Many State Department officials “concede that the United States does not hew to one policy on engaging its enemies. ‘I’d rather be right than consistent,’ a senior Bush administration official said.”
AND
Career FBI agent Bassem Youssef told Congress yesterday that “counter-terrorism agents and managers at FBI headquarters often lack basic knowledge about Middle Eastern culture, language and terrorists’ ideology.” “The FBI counter-terrorism division is ill-equipped to handle the terrorist threat we are facing,” Youssef told the House Judiciary Committee.
NO WONDER……INCOMPETENT BUSHIES
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” - Albert Einstein
By Daniel
May 22, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Soothsayer: Ausgezeichnet!
By Daniel
May 22, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
Bosch: I am sure you caught the UEFA Championship from Moscow!
By Goldie
May 22, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
Bosch and AmVet— I appreciate soccer, too! My main squeeze in high school was a soccer player, and I thought the whole team looked mighty fine with their good-looking legs, shorts and knee socks!
Also, have you both seen the HBO documentary about the US Women’s team who were world champs in the 90’s? I forget the name of the program exactly — something like “Dare To Dream”? Anyway, it’s a shame that they had to fold because the NFL sponsors bowed to the NFL owners’ pressure to not support soccer!
By Bosch
May 22, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Daniel,
Oh yes. Great game.
RW,
Damn. 14 channels for baseball? Well, that’s news to me. A cure for insomnia for me would be the Golf Channel. Different strokes for different folks, huh?
I’m out too! Later!
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” - Albert Einstein
AJC/DNC/Caux News Mgt.,
I keep tellin’ ya, that quote illustrates the Eternal Truth that physicists must not be philosophers, ‘cause that ain’t the definition of insanity, it’s the definition of obstinacy. Aks John Dewey.
No, insanity’s more like, PoFo.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Hey my progressive brothers and sisters!
Remember, we are not taking the bait from the flat-earthers on this site. We are not talking to them AT ALL. If we all ignore them, that’ll p** them off much more than arguing with those who choose war over peace and hate over love!
Wish I’d seen the UEFA final. The highlights were most x-lent!!
I wonder who will cater Obama’s inauguration parties!?!
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
The first commercial scale concentrating solar power (CSP) plant in Europe was inaugurated in the Southern Spanish city of Seville in March 2007. The 11 MW plant has been designed to produce 23 GWh of electricity a year, enough to supply a population of 10,000. This production of solar electricity avoids the emission of about 16,000 tonnes of CO2 each year.
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
Is anybody on this blog actually dumb enough to want to be called a “progressive”? Is that what Obama is?
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Solar energy represents a huge domestic energy resource for the United States, particularly in the Southwest where the deserts have some of the best solar resource levels in the world. For example, an area approximately 12% the size of Nevada (15% of Federal lands in Nevada) has the potential to supply all of the electric needs of the United States. In addition, solar power is often complementary to other renewable power sources such as hydroelectric and wind power. The solar resource is typically higher during poor hydroelectric periods and solar output peaks during the summer whereas wind power typically peaks in the winter. Solar can be complementary to fossil power sources as well. Eskom, the coal dominated power utility in South Africa with one of the lowest power costs in the world, has identifi ed large-scale solar power technologies as a good intermediate load power source for its grid. Although some renewable power technologies provide an intermittent energy supply, large-scale thermal electric solar technologies can provide fi rm dispatchable power through the integration of thermal energy storage. Thermal energy storage allows solar thermal energy collected during the day to be used to generate solar electricity to meet the utility’s peak loads, whether during the summer afternoons or the winter evenings. Although solar energy is abundant and free, it is a diffuse energy source so the cost to harness (or harvest) it with solar collectors can be signifi cant. As a result, electricity generated from solar energy is currently more expensive than power from conventional fossil power plants. However, studies indicate that even at moderate levels of deployment, large-scale solar power can potentially compete directly with conventional fossil generation.
—NREL
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
GOOGLE (caps added) announced today it is investing $10 million in eSolar to help produce utility-scale power cheaper than coal, as part of its world-changing Re
Here’s how eSolar explains itself in one sentence in this brochure:
To serve the renewable electricity needs of utility-scale energy providers, eSolar has developed a market disrupting solar thermal power plant technology. Generation can be scaled from 25 MW to over 500 MW at energy prices competitive with traditional fossil fuels.
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
UAE to Build Concentrating Solar Power Plant 2008-01-23 14:54:18 Xinhua
Abu Dhabi Future Energy Company (ADFEC) of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) will invest 400-500 million U.S. dollars to build a concentrating solar power (CSP) plant in a bid to develop alternative energy, local newspaper Khaleej Times reported on Wednesday.
With a capacity of 100 MW, the CSP plant will use parabolic trough technology and is expected to be operational by the end of 2010, according to the report.
It will be built in the town of Madinat Zayad in the western region of Abu Dhabi, and will be the first of many CSP plants to be setup in the UAE to feed electric power to the national grid, said Ziad Tassabehji, director of ADFEC’s Innovation and Investment Unit.
Bids will be invited for engineering procurement and construction (EPC) along with technology and the capital to setup the CSP plant by early March, he said.
ADFEC is mandated to develop and execute Masdar Initiative, which is launched by the government of Abu Dhabi Emirate to promote commercialization of renewable and sustainable energy technologies.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Solar and wind power! It’s the “no-duh” power of the future!
Progressives rule!!
If it were my inauguration, I’d have The Varsity cater the party…lotsa nekkid dawgs and large FOs…Mmmmm!!
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Dr. Howard Stoate (Dartford) (Lab): Concentrated solar power is a concept of literally dazzling simplicity. It is an idea so simple, and with such extraordinary promise as a means of power generation, that it seems astonishing that in Europe we are only just waking up to its potential, more than 20 years after its first use in California.
The technology is very straightforward. A CSP plant uses mirrors to concentrate sunlight and create heat. The resultant heat is then used to drive turbines and generators, just like in a conventional power station. Heat can also be stored in melted salts so that electricity generation may continue at night or on cloudy days. For once, no amount of hyperbole is excessive. CSP represents, as The Guardian stated recently,
“A vast source of energy that holds the promise of a carbon-free, nuclear-free electrical future for the whole of Europe, if not the world.”
I could not put it better myself. In terms of its scale, therefore, CSP is a world away from the concept of solar photovoltaic technology such as the domestic roof-top solar panels with which we are more familiar in this country. The only issue with CSP is that it needs direct sunshine, and lots of it, to maximise its potential. Needless to say, it is not a technology that we will be seeing too much of in Dartford—or even, dare I say it, in Croydon, North.
Europe’s first commercially operating CSP plant has just opened in Spain, just outside Seville. It currently generates about 11 MW of electricity—enough to power up to 6,000 homes—but its operators hope that it will eventually produce sufficient power to meet the needs of Seville’s 600,000 residents. The deserts of north Africa, however, offer us the greatest potential as far as CSP is concerned. Each year, each square kilometre of hot desert receives solar energy equivalent to 1.5 million barrels of oil. Indeed, it has been calculated that we could produce the world’s entire electricity needs by covering less than 1 per cent. of the world’s deserts with CSP plants.
Desert-based CSP plants have the added advantage of allowing fresh water for crop cultivation and land irrigation to be created through the desalination of sea water using simply the waste heat from the CSP plants. The partially shaded areas under the solar mirrors also have many potential uses, including crop cultivation. It is even possible to imagine some energy-intensive industries choosing to locate in
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
“Every year, each square kilometre (.62 sq mi) of desert receives solar energy equivalent to 1.5 million barrels of oil. Multiplying by the area of deserts world-wide, this is nearly a thousand times the entire current energy consumption of the world.” said Dr Franz Trieb, Project Manager for a set of reports on trans-European renewable energy networks.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
Progressives DOMINATE THIS BLOG!!!
DOMINATE, I TELL YA!!!!
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
Cut-and-paste—it’s fun for all! Not just putzes.
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
We don’t need no stinkin oil!!!!!
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
Nationalizing the oil industry should be the central tenet of any progressive political movement. Evidence of the industry’s involvement in the invasion of Iraq as well as its obvious complicity in corrupting the political system should provide ample proof that the oil giants are a clear and present danger to democracy and need to be put under state control.
I DON”T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS
BUT MAYBE THIS N WORD WOULD AT LEAST
PUT A SCARE IN THE OIL COMPANIES?
WHAT DO Y’ALL THINK?
By Goldie
May 22, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
2009 will be the beginning of the knee-capping of Big Oil! They’d better learn diversification real fast!
By Paul
May 22, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Goldie 8:46
Well there are some exciting developments on the way.
Honda has fielded a fleet of hydrogen cars in Calif, leasing them and getting customer feedback. They’re working on a modification to residential natural gas lines to bypass the need for hydrogen stations.
Toyota’s working on the next-generation batteries - GM, too, I believe, but the Toyota model will allow cars like the Prius to go 100 miles - then the gas engine kicks in. Now the gas engine kicks in at about 35 mph.
Several European automakers are bringing their clean-burn diesels to the US. I read where an Audi model on sale now in Europe gets mid-40s in the city.
So it isn’t just “drill more for more gas” - other technologies will do their part.
And I still think oil companies are hosing us. Speculators, too. But I still would like to hear one of those oil execs testifying today say “Hey Senators and Congressmen, just what are your great and notable accomplishments over the last 30 years regarding energy?” or “I have a list here of the campaign contributions you’ve received from us or the auto manufacturers. Shall I read them for you?”
AJC/DNC 9:18
“More than a few liberal Democrats are privately embarrassed by this corporate welfare spectacle. But they’ve been mollified by Speaker Pelosi, who spent the last week assuring her left that the bill also includes another $10.4 billion for food stamps and nutrition programs.”
Ain’t bribery a wonderful thing?
It’s a shame, though - don’t change the criteria but more and more people are qualifying for assistance. Something’s wrong somewhere…
ITN 9:58
“a surge that was supposed to achieve political reconciliation.”
This is what’s starting to bother me about Obama - I think he knows the surge was to give the gov’t the OPPORTUNITY to achieve reconciliation - Obama’s a nuance kind of guy and understands the difference. But more and more he seems to be casting aside such distinctions to go for the sound bites that play on the audience’s misperceptions.
By getalife
May 22, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Stand up and sign the petition for Florida, Michigan and Democracy by helping to make their votes count
By truthman
May 22, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
Paul! We’re not talking or responding to “them” AT ALL. Let them rant to the wind, but do not fall into their tired, old wedge-issue traps!
By Paul
May 22, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
ITN 10:36
Do you suppose one of your sources could do some introductions between the Pres and some of his people, you know, along the lines of “left hand, meet right hand, now you know what the other’s doing”?
Hope springs eternal -
Bosch-AmVet
In my university days I was cutting through the Student Union and I saw this huge guy, ‘bout like an NFL linebacker, holding a newborn. A very good-sized newborn. I looked up at him (I wasn’t all that large) and said “future football player?” He looked down at me like I was some kind of gnat and said “Rugby.” I noticed the missing tooth and scars. Retreating is a good thing. Oh, Bosch – good thing you left. “Golf Channel. Different strokes for different folks” - booooooo
I’m out for the weekend - family get-together. Remember Monday. Flying a flag can be a good thing. Proper symbolism and all that.
Pleasant weekend, all-
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
ITN: unfortunately the worldwide trend toward nationalization has essentially brought exploration to a standstill. Of course, this has only exacerbated our current dilemma.
As an aside: I have said it before and I will say it over and over again: The U.S. is a war-making country. And the business of war materiel is all-emcompassing. Were it not for the Iraq war and the spending on materiel, the U.S. would be in a serious recession at this time. Just run down the Dow 30, virtually every single one is a materiel supplier.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Bush/Cheney FBI tries to instigate riots at RNC convention 2008 in Minneapolis; looks for ‘moles’
And they wonder why we don’t trust the po-lice!!
http://articles.citypages.com/2008-05-21/news/moles-wanted/
By Goldie
May 22, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
Paul @ 11:50 — and I still would like to hear one of those oil execs testifying today say “Hey, you oughta get a load of this videotape I have of Cheney’s “energy policy” meeting we had with him back in 2001 — how much can I get for this video, heh???”
By Paul
May 22, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
truthman
One more before I go - I couldn’t tell what you were referring to but I’ll assume it’s the Obama remark. The other thing he’s been doing is portraying McCain as Bush III. I know it plays well - with the faithful. But I do think there are some substantive differences, and as the campaign presses on they’ll become apparent. If Obama doesn’t shift tactics it could cause many undecideds to ask “hmmm, Obama didn’t get this right - what else is he off on?” I just thinks it’s a questionable campaign strategy, is all.
I have equal reservations about some of McCain’s tactics. The high road is turning into the low road, but I don’t have time, now.
Out, now -
By Goldie
May 22, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Paul @ 12:09 — McBush certainly will be “Bush 3” on the substantive issues of our continuing occupation of Iraq, foreign policy, war-time deficit spending, and doing nothing for the economy other than tax cuts.
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
Let the dimwits have their say and then “nuke” them:
{{{{This facility was once the Rancho Seco Nuclear Generating Station, capable of generating over 900 megawatts (MW) of electricity, enough to power upward of 900,000 homes. Rancho Seco opened in 1975, when antinuclear fervor in California was just beginning to gain momentum, and at one point, it generated more electricity than any other nuclear plant in the world.}}}}
{{{{The facility didn’t entirely close, though. In 1984, trying to position itself as a national leader in solar power, the Sacramento Municipal Utility District (SMUD) began building photovoltaic solar panels on the site, taking advantage of the already constructed infrastructure to transmit power. At the same time, in a bid to position itself as a national leader in solar power, SMUD instituted programs subsidizing the construction of photovoltaic panels for Sacramento homes and businesses. The utility halted the installation of new panels in 2002, after it became clear that the program would cost perhaps three times more than projected and had lost millions of dollars, falling well short of its modest goal to install 2 MW of solar energy that year.}}}}
{{{{Today, Rancho Seco possesses one of the largest photovoltaic arrays in the world. Yet it provides less than 4 MW of electricity, or less than half of 1 percent of what the closed nuclear plant optimally offered. Total solar capacity for the Sacramento region is less than 50 MW, or about 6 percent of the nuclear plant’s output. In fact, after millions of dollars in subsidies and other support for solar power, the entire state of California has less than 250 MW of solar capacity.}}}}
Got sweater?
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
Truthman @ 11:35,
I know you are, but what is Barack?
By getalife
May 22, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
The Senate passed the Webb GI bill with veto proof majority.
McCain cut and ran on the vote.
Suk on that gop.
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Former Rove-Protege Tim Griffin Joining RNC Opposition Research Shop To Help McCain ‘Turn His Fire’ On Obama…..As RNC research director in 2004, Griffin reportedly led a “caging” scheme to suppress the votes of likely Democratic voters, including African-American service members in Florida. (Here’s an e-mail written by Griffin in August 2004 with the subject line “caging.”)
DOES MCCAIN HAVE ANY DECENT FOLKS ON HIS CAMPAIGN - OR WHAT?
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Well, I never expected environmental terrorists to come right out and say that it has nothing to do with “energy independence” or lower energy prices, but instead has everything to do with destroying the United States:
{{{{By Soothsayer May 22, 2008 12:00 PM As an aside: I have said it before and I will say it over and over again: The U.S. is a war-making country. And the business of war materiel is all-emcompassing. Were it not for the Iraq war and the spending on materiel, the U.S. would be in a serious recession at this time. Just run down the Dow 30, virtually every single one is a materiel supplier.}}}}
Make no mistake about it, these mofo’s hate this country, hate our freedom, hate our strength, hate our very way of life and have one common single goal among all of their POS parasitic as-ses; Destroy us.
Their presidential kandidate included.
Can you not hear them?
Are you too stupid to understand?
An attack on our country, whether from outside or inside is an act of treason, pure and simple.
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
DAILY TALKING POINTS FROM MCAIN HQ - NO CHANGE YET
I AM NOT IMPRESSED
By bon scott
May 22, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
By Andee SUDPO (Secret Underground Democratic Party Operative - May 22, 2008 10:06 AM {{{{By Soothsayer May 22, 2008 9:59 AM Nissan plans to introduce an electric vehicle in 2010. That’s less than 2 years from now. Will your new car be electric?}}}} Moron: How is the electricity produced that charges the battery? Are you not going to drive on cloudy days?}}}
Once again, Andee proves he knows absolutely nothing about meteorology. On a typically cloudy day (we’re not talking hurricanes), 80% to 85% of the sun’s energy makes it to the planet’s surface. That’s why most people (except for maybe you, Andee… gee, wonder why you’re going blind?) have no problem reading a book or newspaper on a typically cloudy day.
You know, I’m sure Democrats appreciate your efforts to drive the undecideds away from the GOP. But sometimes, maybe you should put limits on your systematic lies and misrepresentations. You don’t want to look TOO ridiculous.
Otherwise, keep up the good work!
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Anybody else have the sneaking suspicion that it’s going to be a Clinton/Obama ticket?
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this
WASHINGTON — Senator John McCain is set to release 400 pages of medical records, including documents related to his melanoma surgery in August 2000, to a tightly controlled group of reporters on the Friday before Memorial Day weekend.
WHAT THE HELL IS GRAMPY McSAME TRYING TO HIDE?
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Boehner And Buddies Hope The Public Forgets Whose Energy Policy This Is
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
“Conservation may be a sign of personal virtue, but it is not a sufficient basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy,”
WHO SAID IT?
Dick Cheney
By truthman
May 22, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
bon scott! You’re playing into its hands.
DON’T REPLY TO THE RIGHT-WINGERS AT ALL. LET’S JUST KEEP THE TALK THAT IS GOING TO MOVE OUR COUNTRY FORWARD AMONGST OURSELVES.
Nothing ticks them off more than to be totally ignored!!
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Truthman
We don’t need no stinkin’ wingnuts!
By RW-(the original)
May 22, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
How do the rest of you leftists feel about the truth?man? doctrine of not speaking to those with whom you disagree?
By AmVet
May 22, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
I see where the sleaziest of the sleazy, Karl Rove, is now a “contributor” to the MUCH maligned Fox News.
I personally enjoy watching Fox News. But then again, I’m a big fan of Monty Python and The Three Stooges.
Comedy that good is worth watching…
ITN, I am appalled, dismayed and utterly shocked that the RNC and FBI are in cahoots to catch non-Republican no-good-niks at the upcoming Republican Pukefest in St. Paul.
NOT!!!
Are we going to witness another episode of “The Whole World’s Watching” this summer?
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Hey AMvet….
Lookee this:
Yesterday, Karl Rove appeared on Fox News’s Hannity and Colmes to discuss the presidential election. During the segment, Sean Hannity mentioned that Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) recently pointed to electoral maps made by Rove to show that she was the “stronger candidate.” Hannity joked, “Are you now an unpaid adviser for the Hillary campaign?”……No, Sean, Rove is not an unpaid adviser to Clinton’s campaign. He is, however, an unpaid, informal adviser to Sen. John McCain’s campaign (R-AZ), a fact that you and your network still refuse to disclose.
AND THIS TOO
Rep. Wexler: Inherent Contempt for Rove
He could feasibly be arrested and kept in the basement of the capital!
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
{{{{By bon scott May 22, 2008 12:55 PM On a typically cloudy day (we’re not talking hurricanes), 80% to 85% of the sun’s energy makes it to the planet’s surface.}}}}
bonnie: I posted an earlier comment that stated a known fact the a nuclear power plant that once produced 900MW of electricity until the fruits and nuts of Kalifornia converted it to solar power.
Now, even on the sunniest days, it bust out a whole 4MW.
I guess you aren’t very good at division either, eh?
Got sweater?
By truthman
May 22, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
The entire Bush foreign policy doctrine it to not talk to those with whom you disagree…in his tiny, little mind, it works perfectly!!
BTW, I’m not talking to anyone in particular!!
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Luckodunce @ 12:38: First I am not an environmental terrorist. Secondly I love this country and it’s people. And, most importantly, I do not want to destroy this country. Quite the ontrary.
What I hate is that large war-making corporations control everything including our politicians. Republican or Democrat Congress or President it makes no difference.
And, can you really blame them? What if our President and/or our Congress stood up and said NO! I believe that their careers if not their very lives would be in danger.
How on Earth does Europe survive? Quite well! Why?, they are not sucked into endless, pointless wars that are draining the very lifeblood out of this country.
The juggernaut that began in WWII is not going away. That is what is so sad about it. You, me, we are all powerless. “Step out of line, the man come and take you away.”
By the way I and NOT a liberal or a conservative. More towards center.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
ONLY APPEASERS TALK TO THOSE WITH WHOM THEY HAVE A DISAGREEMENT…AND I’D HATE TO BE LABELED AN APPEASER!
Although, I did read something about “blessed are peacemakers for they are the children of God.” But, then again, I’m a-theist!
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
Utopian Dreamers like Goldie fantasize that some day in the distant future we will find alternatives to oil, and they rely on that dream to make policy, while ignoring our urgent need to access energy NOW.
It is not evil oil companies, but idiot congressmen and Senators who are too blame for the disastrous situation we are in right now.
To illustrate how absurd the restrictions are, note that last week’s Florida Everglades fires alone burned 33,000 acres - Over 10 times more than the few thousand acres of largely bleak terrain that we need to access (with minimal environmental impact) in ANWR.
It’s like fiddling while Rome burns, and while Goldie is probably just a Useful Idiot, there are some who deliberately intend to destroy the economy of the United States, and use the environment as a weapon of our destruction.
I can’t help but wonder how the working poor that Liberals claim to care oh so much about are handling the inflationary cost of fuel and food.
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
Poor Luckodunce:
Trot out some obscure tidbit that seems to “justify” its position. PV (photovoltaic) is to CSP as a horse-and-buggy is to a Maserati (not only in cost—inversely—but in performance—proportionately). You are only exposing your ignorance.
Might I suggest you spend a day Googling Concentrated Solar Power so that, at the very least, you can speak intelligently on the subject.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
Even a rather conservative Australian writer gets it that Rumsfeld and, still, Cheney are the culprits behind our stupidity in Iraq:
But the key reasons for the change in Iraq is that the surge was just one part of a more fundamental change on the part of the US. The replacement of the arrogant defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld by Richard Gates, together with the arrival of generals David Petraeus and Raymond Odierno, has been followed by a demonstration of sophisticated, subtle and creative use of new military operational doctrines, carefully integrated with political manoeuvring at local, regional and national level, between and within the various political and religious forces.
This has been combined with a focus on local economic and social development bringing much needed employment. Moreover, US diplomacy over Iraq, including with Iran, most of which has been conducted in private, has brought them some way down the track to a workable outcome that will not leave Iraq an Iranian sphere of influence.
Such unexpected adroitness and skill is a welcome relief after the bunglings of 2003 to 2006 dictated by Rumsfeld’s wilful blindness to the exploding insurgency and the self-delusion of Vice-President Dick Cheney that the US would be greeted as liberators.
In the end, it is the Iraqis who will decide whether Iraq becomes a united federation with a genuinely democratic government that suits their values, which is economically successful, which stands independent from outside domination, and which lives in peace with its neighbours.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Who has an “urgent need to access energy now?” I presume that is confined to Bush/oil?
I don’t! My friends don’t! My family doesn’t!
We find conservation to correct way to go, and we support all renewable energy sources. We drive less, combine trips, recycle and compost. At least if we run out of oil, it will be a problem shared by the entire world!!
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
{{{By Buy Danish May 22, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this Utopian Dreamers like Goldie fantasize that some day in the distant future we will find alternatives to oil, and they rely on that dream to make policy, while ignoring our urgent need to access energy NOW.}}}
Unfortunately, we HAVE to find alternatives to oil, not in the distance future, but NOW! There is nothing utopian about. Regardless of how much we drill, we are only forestalling the inevitable. Supply-side is not the answer. ANWR, US Gulf Coast are a “drop” in the world “bucket” and cannot significantly affect prices.
Many believe that the world is much closer to running out of petroleum than previously thought because many OPEC countries “inflated” their “reserves” to be able to pump more oil.
Because, at least in the short term, demand for petroleum is nearly perfectly elastic (does not change regardless of the price), you can expect even higher prices in the future.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
We find conservation to correct way to go, and we support all renewable energy sources. We drive less, combine trips, recycle and compost. At least if we run out of oil, it will be a problem shared by the entire world!!
Nothing like equality, eh!?!
By Polk Salad Annie
May 22, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
Truthman, the Iraqi ethno-sectarian feuds are over 10K years old.
Bush will spin a victory by November… and leave-it-to-beaver resolutions will satisfy the voters.
Yes, americans R that dumb.
Mccain 08: He may just soft shoe his way in.
but then there’s the seabiscuit factor. Hillary’s never-say-die persistence, and the slower economic trends match the depression and the real Seabiscuit. Americans just love a come-from-behind against-all-odds story and voters could create it as it unfolds, in which case Hillary will be our next president.
The Seabiscuit factor. Hillary would be crazy not to just play this out.
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Why We’Ll Never Run Out Of Oil
Discover, June, 1999 by Curtis Rist
Back in 1973, some experts were predicting $100-a-barrel oil prices by the year 2000. What happened?
American civilization as we know it appeared to be in grave peril a quarter century ago. When Arab nations cut off oil shipments to the United States during the 1973 war in the Middle East, gasoline prices abruptly rose 40 percent and panic ensued. Motorists idled in long lines at gas stations, where creeping tensions led to fights and even occasional shootings. Automakers scrambled to retool their assembly lines to manufacture miserly compacts rather than gas-guzzling behemoths. Entrepreneurs poured millions into upstart solar-energy and wind-power companies. Politicians pontificated about the need for collective belt-tightening and offered income tax credits to homeowners for energy-saving insulation. Meanwhile, doomsday scenarios predicted ever-increasing shortages of fossil fuels and $100-a-barrel oil prices by the year 2000. * Surprise. Doomsday is nigh and oil has been selling at $10 to $15 a barrel, not $100. Adjusting for inflation, gasoline is cheaper today than it was before the Arab oil embargo. Indeed, the world seems to be awash in oil.
Please look at the DATE of this article. Indeed, what did happen? My, how times have changed.
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Ah, I see there is much hand-wringing going on by Soothsayer and others about evil war mongering corporations. Here’s a writer they should enjoy, as would John Effing Kerry:
The dark side of all this, I suppose, is that the real weapons are all in the countryside, which is where the real Red Army is, and where Mao came from, to purge the cities of intellectuals during the Cultural Revolution. The Maoists hated and feared the intelligentsia, and I can see the same thing happening in the U.S., where the military is also predominantly from the less educated provinces, with a built-in and growing bias against the urban educated “elite” (i.e., the Blue States).
AND
{{{America’s profoundly corrupt and hypocritical Congress passed a resolution last March condemning China’s bid for the 2008 Olympics based on human rights violations. Yes, they do exist here, although on a far smaller scale than in, say, the U.S., which has 25% of the entire world’s prison population, many of whom are being held for minor drug offenses while corporate criminals rule the halls of Congress with impunity. This resolution has generated a certain degree of incredulity as well as indignation here in China. After all, I am asked, why does America, which has backed and upheld more dictators than anyone in history, presume such moral superiority over anyone?}}}
Who wrote this? One very “mainstream” kinda guy named E.C. Ayres, who had this published at the Heartland Journal, a Chicago publication which also features such luminaries as Bernadine Dohrn, Bill Ayers, and Chesa Boudin.
The Chinese Government has given him the distinct honor of teaching at one of their universities, where he assures us they will not censor him.
Imagine that!
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
(((By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 1:50 PM)))
I have no problem with exploring technology to find alternative sources of energy. In the meantime we need to drill in ANWR, offshore, and elsewhere NOW.
Your vision is analogous to emptying the grocery store shelves today in the hopes that some day we can live without them and the food they supply us.
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
{{{By Buy Danish May 22, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Ah, I see there is much hand-wringing going on by Soothsayer and others about evil war mongering corporations. Here’s a writer they should enjoy, as would John Effing Kerry:}}}
BD: What this country needs is a “good old-fashioned war!” Heaven forbid your stocks should go down.
Thank God those from the hinterlands are willing to go die for your SUV.
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
{{{Back in 1973, some experts were predicting $100-a-barrel oil prices by the year 2000. What happened?
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 2:01 PM}}}
They were also predicting the coming ice age in the 1970s. How’s that working out for you?
Anyway, I’m not quite sure what point you’re trying to make, but thanks for citing an article that recounted what a disaster it is to rely on the Middle East for oil, and all the nightmarish memories of life under Jimmy Carter (D) Georgia.
By the way, I have to ask:
Are you cutting back on your food intake to save the world? I ask because According to Barack Obama’s Marxist Economics theory, every bite you consume means less for someone else because the pie never expands, the pieces just get smaller.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Soothsayer…even though you are talking to “them,” you really hit the nail on the head at 2:12!
Yep, it’s always we in the intelligencia who are killed first in the political pogroms. That way, the less-educated (purposely or not), have no other point of view to hear or see (kind of like Sean Vannity or Lush Rimslob!).
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
((((By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 2:12 PM}}}
If you think the Iraq War was bad, just imagine what would happen if the Iranians blockaded the Straight of Hormuz. Maybe you think that we should just learn to live with that eventuality, but I rather think that you would be in the minority, even among idiot Dems. I don’t know that the Iranians would be willing to wait until we have developed sufficient alternative energy to fuel the planet.
As for my “stocks”, teachers, union members, and the elderly own stocks in vast numbers, but I’m sure they’ll be happy to know that you don’t give a flip about their life savings. Maybe Barry could pick that up as a campaign theme.
In the meantime, I am less concerned about my stocks than I am with the cost of food and fuel which is harming the majority party’s congressional constituents NOW.
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
{{{Yep, it’s always >>>>>>>>>>>we in the intelligencia<<<<<<<<<< who are killed first in the political pogroms.
By truthiman
May 22, 2008 2:19 PM}}}
You have nothing to fear Truthiman! Even if you so learn to spell “Intelligentsia”.
Ignorance is bliss and just could save your life!
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Boy, what about that Carter? During his presidency the Arab-Israeli war caused the oil embargo. Which caused inflation to go north of 25%. This caused the economy to go into a tailspin. The Iranians took over our embassy with no warning whatsoever. Primarily for our installing and backing the Shah of Iran. Blaming Carter for all of that would be like blaming Chimpy for 911, wouldn’t it?
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Soothsayer May 22, 2008 1:29 PM How on Earth does Europe survive? Quite well! Why?, they are not sucked into endless, pointless wars that are draining the very lifeblood out of this country.}}}}
goofsayer: My goodness, what a real dimwit you truly are.
The Euroweenies cannot defend themselves because they have busted their budgets on junk science and other nonsense liberal ideas, setting environmental “goals” that they cannot even come close to achieving, and even if they did, it would not make one bit of difference.
They are on cruise control, spinning their wheels in a viscous pinko circle jerk, on the road to total ruination.
I’m sure the Muslims will treat you with great respect when you visit Paris, haha.
Geez, what a total gullible moron you are, if solar power is going to save the planet, when do you reckon it will start doing it? After you environmental terrorists have choked the US economy to death, a catastrophe worse than anything “global warming” could ever do?
{{{{The juggernaut that began in WWII is not going away. That is what is so sad about it. You, me, we are all powerless. “Step out of line, the man come and take you away.”}}}}
The “juggernaut” is the greatest force of good in the world today, saving tsunami victims, protecting the innocent, defending the very country from whence you launch your immature little crying jags.
You Godless heathens with your empty pointless existence, totally void of any meaning, have to create “enemies” and “evil” that you can safely do battle against, seeing how they don’t even exist to begin with, some hero you are.
But guess who does bear the harm from your brave fake little war on industry, General Napoleon?
The poor and the needy, as always.
Got food?
By Homer Simpson
May 22, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
MMMmmmm…Seabiscuits!
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Poor Luckodunce:
Wait! Let me pull all of these barbs out of my thin skin. Oh! ouch!
I love a good rant. Do really think that everyone on this blog (those with any brains) doesn’t realize that you are foaming at the mouth?
It must be nice to live in some parallel universe like you where reality is but a pipe dream.
If you think the Europeans are not better off than we are I just want to know what you have been smoking all day.
By Soothsayer
May 22, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
As entertaining as all of this is, I must leave for the rest of day.
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
Aahhh, yes, this is what the environmental terrorists think is “better:”
{{{{Widespread riots across impoverished [Muslim -ed.] areas of France took a malevolent turn in a ninth night of violence, as [Muslim -ed.] youths torched an ambulance and stoned medical workers coming to the aid of a sick person. Authorities arrested more than 200 people, an unprecedented sweep since the beginning of the unrest. Bands of [Muslim -ed.] youths also burned a nursery school, warehouses and more than 750 cars overnight as the violence that spread from the restive Paris suburbs to towns around France. The U.S. warned Americans against taking trains to the airport through the affected areas.}}}}
Plus, the Frenchies dislike children, they are, after all, not environmentally “friendly,” so soon enough, they will be enslaved in their own country:
{{{{The French Muslim population is the largest in western Europe. About 70% have their heritage in former north African colonies of Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia. France favours integration and many Muslims are citizens. Nevertheless, the growth of the community has challenged the French ideal of strict separation of religion and public life. There has been criticism that Muslims face high unemployment and often live in poor suburbs. A ban on religious symbols in public schools provoked a major national row as it was widely regarded as being a ban on the Islamic headscarf. Late 2005 saw widespread and prolonged rioting among mainly immigrant communities across France.}}}}
Yes, paradise.
Got brains?
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Did Soothsayer say something about how grand things are in Europe?
At a time when the world’s top climate experts agree that carbon emissions must be rapidly reduced to hold down global warming, a leading Italian electricity producer, Enel, is converting its massive power plant here from oil to coal, the dirtiest fuel on earth.
{{Over the next five years, Italy will increase its reliance on coal to 33 percent from 14 percent. Power generated by Enel from coal will rise to 50 percent. And Italy is not alone in its return to coal.
Driven by rising demand, record high oil and natural gas prices, concerns over energy security and an aversion to nuclear energy, European countries are slated to build about 50 coal-fired plants over the next five years, plants that will be in use for the next five decades.
The fast-expanding developing economies of India and China, where coal remains a major fuel source for more than two billion people, have long been regarded as one of the biggest challenges to reducing carbon emissions.
But the return now to coal even in eco-conscious Europe is sowing real alarm among environmentalists who warn that it is setting the world on a disastrous trajectory that will make controlling global warming impossible. They are aghast at the renaissance of coal, a fuel more commonly associated with a sooty Dickens novel and which was on its way out just a decade ago.}}}
Is that what Progressives mean by Progress?
By Pro Gressive
May 22, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
Truthman:
Can we talk about them, but not to them? :-)
“…we need to drill in ANWR, offshore, and elsewhere NOW.”
Ugh. I never will understand the reluctance to change that these old codgers have.
The younger generation knows that change is now a fact of life—cross-training, retraining, second and third careers…there is no reason to fear the industry switch from oil to alternative. It is beyond time. Do people really think that the next industrial revolution will come without stock dividends?
I think of all of these old people who will die – unfulfilled, angry, frustrated and resentful—because another drill bit never hit ANWR during their lifetimes.
And it makes me happy.
Good riddance! Get the F### off the planet, already!
By getalife
May 22, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
“HRC: How Long Will A Responsible Withdrawal Take?
By Spencer Ackerman 05/22/2008 12:23PM
Sen. Clinton just hit it out of the park with a question that couldn’t have been easy for her to ask. How long will a responsible withdrawal from Iraq take, if the next president asks?
“It’s a very difficult question,” Odierno responded, “and the reason is, there are a number of assumptions and factors I’d want to understand first… what is the [desired] endstate. … I don’t think i can give you an answer now… but if asked, I would undertake careful planning… and we’d lay out a timeline.” That’s a lot further than Petraeus went last month, when he all but said he wasn’t interested in planning for withdrawal.
A great question. A somewhat-enlightening answer. And, incidentally, also the last exchange of the hearing. So that’s a wrap. Both generals will undoubtedly be confirmed. But good for Clinton that she asked such an important — and stunningly overlooked — question.”
Leadership.
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
Just to be clear, I have no problem with clean coal but I couldn’t resist the opportunity to shock Soothsayer with some news about his beloved Europe and the dire predictions for Dickens redux and rising CO2 emissions.
Got Kyoto?
By getalife
May 22, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
Rove has been subpoenaed finally.
They can get him on the set of fixed noise.
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
(((Good riddance! Get the F### off the planet, already!
By Pro Gressive
May 22, 2008 3:10 PM}}}
I love it when Liberal Fascists let us know what they REALLY think.
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Caux News Mgt.,
The Frenchies don’t like children? What?? Are you talking about their birth rate? What’s that got to do with not liking children? The home of J-J Rousseau and Jean Piaget and Marc Chagall? The headquarters of UNESCO? Have you seen how the French clothe their children? Are you at all familiar with the Western history of childhood, and France’s place in that history? I realize that the French can be even more uncivilized than we at times, but they have been an enormously civilizing force for the “homization” of Western attitudes toward children. You and I aren’t the sort who would approve of their methods and their extravagant theories, but by God the French love their children. They do.
Paris sees us as just beginning to grow out of our customary bigotry. And that’s what they’re trying to do viz the peoples once dominated by French colonialism. As you must know, this is especially true of their erstwhile animus toward the Algerian Muslims.
They’ll work it out. They’re not Germans.
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
McCain Flips Out
IF BARACK KEEPS UP THE PRESSURE WE’RE GOING TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GRAMPY McSAME IMPLODE ON NATIONAL TEEVEE!!!!!
By Pro Gressive
May 22, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
Liberal Fascist?
Someone tell Granny that I’m not liberal or fascist…just tired of the stranglehold that the old fossils have on the country.
I carry guns, Granny.
I have stocks, Granny.
I believe in God, Granny.
But I also believe in gay marriage and staying out of people’s bedrooms, Granny.
Thank God Granny and her ilk are dying off, finally, and the younger generation can get about the business of cleaning up their politics.
But no worries, I’ll send Granny and her kind off with a prayer, a whistle and a smile.
Oh, check out more of Granny’s rantings:
“Over 10 times more than the few thousand acres of largely bleak terrain that we need to access…”
All I see in this post is a wrinkled, old, desperate, thirsty vampire, oil dripping from its fangs, stomping across the countryside looking for its next life-giving fix.
It’s time to drive a stake through it’s heart, chunk it on to the compost pile, and use it fertilize the flowers surrounding our new solar plant!
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
{{{{By getalife May 22, 2008 3:22 PM Rove has been subpoenaed finally. They can get him on the set of fixed noise.}}}}
al-Gitmo: I think you might be all hard and excited here by mistake, the term you are thinking of is “indictment.”
If Rove chooses to answer thee subpoena you can be sure that he will lavish ridicule and scorn upon the Exalted Grandees of our Do Nothing Congress and their mindless questions.
I’m looking forward to this.
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
{{{By Pro Gressive
May 22, 2008 3:33 PM}}}
Liberal Fascist?
As for “old fossils”, what do you think Barack Obama’s ideas are? They are Marxism wrapped up in a pretty package of hope and change and other meaningless banalities, except in his Marxist church which doesn’t pretend to be sweet and nice and just comes right out with its poison, much to the delight of the Amen Chorus.
By Georgia74
May 22, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
You neoconic repudlickers are so freaking stupid. There is no shortage of oil, there is enough to fuel this planet for 200 years, the oil companies want you believe there is,so they can bid up their own futures as a justification for raising prices. I hope we do drill in the natural areas, it won’t make one bit of difference, and maybe your children and grandchildren can run around this forsaken planet roasting themselves, anyway nothing lasts forever and this planet won’t either.
By getalife
May 22, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
McCain just rejected the endorsement of his kook McGee.
He released his medical records so they need to look at his brain scan.
His positions are all over the place and he cut and ran on Webb’s new GI bill.
Obama and Clinton voted yes and it passed with a veto proof majority.
McCain does not support the troops. Period.
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Yeah, but Buy Danish,
At least Barack’s Not Butter.
By Analchord
May 22, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Granny from the GLW yahoo board? I know it. That means Wooten is one of them. That’s the last piece of the puzzle i needed!
Thank you granny, you wonderfully oblivious babe!!!!
YEEEEEHAW!!!!!!
By Pro Gressive
May 22, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Sorry, Granny’s hearing aid is whistling so loudly that I can’t hear a thing she’s saying anymore.
No loss. Probably just more FEAR!FEAR!! FEAR!!! wrapped up in a hand-quilted cozy and served on a doily.
Although I dislike Obama, I do feel that he has tapped into something. I, too, feel change a-comin’, maybe at the point of the American citizens’ bayonets, but it’s a comin’.
Oh yes it is.
Off to meet the gang for a few beers…vacation starts tomorrow!
By getalife
May 22, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
Yeah Andy,
Setting a fine precedent like Miers.
Get served a subpoena, don’t show up.
Another blow to justice in this country.
Just open up the prisons and let them all out .
Right Andy?
“Vincent Bugliosi: Bush should be tried for murder.”
There will be a reckoning in this country.
Nobody is above the law. Period.
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
ITN,
I’m in the freakin’ Twilight Zone here. John McCain releases 400 pages of medical records and you say he’s hiding something.
The Clintons refuse to even FILE last year’s tax return until the electoral returns are in, and you call that disclosure.
You can be partisan and intelligent at the same time, you know. It’s OK. You don’t get in trouble for it in this country.
By AmVet
May 22, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
I have opined here s few times that McCain’s chances at residingt at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue are now inextricably linked with his VP choice.
If he names another flip-flopper, a Romney for example, or someone even REMOTELY connected to the worst administration in US history, either by job or philosophy, he is almost certainly committing political suicide. The independents and moderates will drop him faster than a bad habit and there goes his one advantage.
But what of Obama? Who does he name? He desperately needs to ameliorate his very liberal image to garner any big support among centrists.
I think they should join together. McCain may not live through his first term and Obama could get some experience as an administrator in the meantime and get ready for 2012.
McCain/Obama 2008.
The old white guy and the young mulatto - something for everybody!
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
I have to run, but before I go, apparently there’s a chapter in Madame Pelosi’s playbook called “How to rewrite the Constitution and hope nobody notices”.
I do look forward to getting the details as to “What did they know and when did they know it.”
By truthman
May 22, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
If there was a god, don’t you think he would’ve saved the life of Steven Chapman’s daughter? I mean, he’s some type of christian singer, isn’t he?
No god? Know peace!
By Dusty
May 22, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Getalife@3:54
Webb’s new GI Bill was nothing but an anchor to slow the war funding bill. Because it ADDED billions to the War Funding Bill, Bush did not want anything interfering with the money for the troops. But Democrats, who use undercover methods to slow the war, will do anything.
Webb could have drawn up a GI BILL at anytime but he wanted to be an ANTI-WAR undercover Democrat. He just made war funding more “expensive” with his actions. That was the whole purpose. This is the latest way Democrats “support” our troops. SLOW THE FUNDING!
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
Pro Gresssive,
While you’re on vacation you may want to read up on the origins of the phrase “Let them eat cake”.
Your solar panels won’t do a thing to feed a hungry child, or fuel a school bus.
By truthman
May 22, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
When Bill Murray won the bowling tournament in “Kingpin,” he declared himself above the law!
I guess all the Chimperor’s men took that to heart!! Of course, they remind me more the old men that hang out next to run-down liquor store!
By truthman
May 22, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
See Pro Gressive! They barking chihuahuas always have a negative answer when it comes to weaning America off of BushOil!
They say, “If it won’t fix everything under the sun, then it must be useless! Let’s drill in ANWR, even though there’s only six months of oil there that will, in all probablilty, be sold to China or India. That’s the neo-conman and woman way!
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
McCAIN: I obviously find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible and I repudiate them. I did not know of them before Reverend Hagee’s endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well.
NOW…..WE HE REJECT THE MEMBERS OF HIS STAFF WHO SPENT A YEAR TRYING TO GET THIS ENDORSEMENT?
IF THEY KNEW WHAT A PIG HAGEE WAS…. THEY DON’T BELONG NEAR A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
IF THEY DIDN’T….WELL INCOMPENTENCE IS SOOOOOOO GOP
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
truthman @ 4:16,
I’m guessing Christopher Hitchens isn’t aware of this, but Thomas Aquinas wrote a rather stunning refutation of your theodicy in his great Summa. He wrote it for a friend who had suffered a loss very much like that of Mr. Chapman. It’s been Church doctrine ever since.
But don’t ask me; I’m a simple Prot.
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
GLENN
YOU INCREDIBLY DENSE HUMAN ANIMAL HYBRID!
DID YOU BOTHER TO READ WHO HE IS RELEASING THEM TOO?
OH AND YOU CAN B!TCH ABOUT CLINTONS RETURNS ALL YOU WANT - AFTER CINDY RELEASES HERS. OTHER WISE YOU LOOK LIKE A BUTTHEAD.
By IN THE NEWS
May 22, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
OH AND GOOFY GLENN
“You can be partisan and intelligent at the same time, you know. It’s OK. You don’t get in trouble for it in this country. “
MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ A BIT ABOUT DON SEIGELMAN…..
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
If if and buts were candy and nuts, then maybe one day one of the Urinal/DNC’s Michael E Kanell doom mongering screeds might come true, but I doubt it:
{{{{Job losses in Ga. >>>Forecast<<<- Georgia’s economy will >>>likely<<< shed about 7,000 jobs this year and the jobless rate will rise to about 6 percent in 2009, according to Rajeev Dhawan.-AJC/DNC}}}}
Aahhh, yes, and thee world could burst into flames too, from what I hear.
Bozos.
~~~~~
Where have we heard this before?:
{{{{“To do so would undermine the very purpose of the nominating process: to ensure that as many Democrats as possible can cast their votes, to ensure that the party selects a nominee who truly represents the will of the voters, and to ensure that the Democrats take back the White House to rebuild America,” Bruno said. “Now I’ve heard some say that counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules. I say that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”}}}}
Go monster!
~~~~~
When dhimmokrats are in charge, you pay, up the nose:
{{{{Some Atlanta homeowners said Wednesday they strongly oppose plans to raise water and sewer rates for each of the next four years. If approved, city officials say the average customer would pay $22.94 more each month for the first year. “I think that this is shameful,” Andrew Greene, who lives in northwest Atlanta, said of the proposal.-Urinal/DNC}}}}
They could cut back on the Bureaucracy, hahahahah, yeah, right.
Why do that when you can stick it to the poor and needy?
Don’t you just love liberals?
By KKK/GOP Management
May 22, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
Actually, I’m nuts about butts and big hairy nuts…
Yep, it’s me. Candy Curly Andiduh.
Kisses.
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
ITN,
You’re right about Cindy and Siegelman both, and I stand (or, sort of, stoop) corrected. My apologies.
As you can see, I’m still steamed about the MSM rolling over on the Clintons’ Smokescreen Day, in which every discoverable outlet including this one trumpeted that they had done exactly that which they had not done: released their tax return with the rest of us. Unforgettably disgraceful of the ME-dee-yuh.
I’d still like to see more of your analysis and less of the freely available pap.
@@,
If you’re out there, I sincerely hope Santa Cruz isn’t your home county. The Forest of Nisene Marks is gone and CDF & Co. are just starting to get a handle on the thing.
By Analchord
May 22, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
Lucko’s cartoon wasn’t funny or clever or even a good parody of the reality of the experience.
I just dont get this guy any more at all. he may be a casualty in all this intenet revolution because he worked in a certain media which is finished. He’s like a silent film star with a squeeky voice.
Lucho basically does the same toon every day, from the same place to the same empty easily amused vacant minds.
It’s a shame.
Looks like it’s time for Analchord! the word’s the word, in a manner of speaking, if you understand what I be sayin to you this day
By AJC/DNC Management
May 22, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
{{{{He told the Senate panel that security conditions in Iraq had continued to improve despite the withdrawal of three of the five surge brigades and that Iraqi security forces were taking on more responsibility.}}}}
{{{{“Prime Minister Maliki, his government, the Iraqi security forces and the Iraqi people, in addition to our troopers, deserve considerable credit for the positive developments since Ambassador Crocker and I testified a month and a half ago,” he said.}}}}
Can you say victory?
By Glenn#1
May 22, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
Glenn is an imposter, and a stupid one at that. In line w the other Repugs who puke forth here daily.
That having been said, I think it must be McCain-Quayle 2008.
By Tony
May 22, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this
Oh yes, our victories in Iraq are momentous. Every death, every wound, every horror has been well beyond and worth their paltry price. The test of time will surely mark this “war” as one of our finest, proudest moments. We have displayed to the world our “stuff” and our intellect and our bravery and fundamental ideals of these wondrous times. Bravery. Heroes. Keep repeating those great, God-fearing words. A strong toast to Bushie, McShame…the rest. Godd bless Merkah!
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
G#1:
STFU. You think I wanna hafta live up to YOUR reputation?
By adam up
May 22, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
obama is an idiot or a marxist. pick one.
By Analchord
May 22, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this
Will U 2 unpinched loaves knock it off? Nobody reads glenn or glenn2. Why would they? There’s no payoff except if you’re glenn 3 the little tin foiled guy inside both their heads.
This is what happens to all blogs eventually. Where do you stable rocks of emotion and intellect come from?
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this
Anality,
Would you perhaps know, does Barack Obama shop at Wal-Mart? Because I can’t figure out what in hell he is and nobody’ll tell me, but if he shops at Wal-Mart then he’s got my vote for sure.
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this
Tony,
Your post reminds me of the once-popular literary compilation, “Patriotic Gore”. Did you ever see that book? It was full of such withering and vaguely satirical remonstrations as yours, and once was considered “scholarship”, rather than exemplary propaganda.
Anyway, if you haven’t read it and can get ahold of an out-of-print paperback copy, I think you’d enjoy it.
The thing is, though: no writer in it has any idea of what war, as a total enterprise, is. No military historians are included; no military scientists or theoreticians. The occasional corporal, but nary a general or admiral.
It’s a sophomorically rigged bit of beard-pulling in that way. But my guess is that the professor who professed it is now the president of Columbia or Harvard.
By Mel
May 22, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this
Anal - I think most people just sorta wait for your drops of wisdom here. Could it be that Glenn-the Little comes from within you and is passed thru you?
By AmVet
May 22, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
Sometimes I will write, usually out of exasperation with the faux patriots, SUPPORT BUSH’S WAR, NOT THE TROOPS.
But never in my wildest imaginings did I really think someone would put that sentiment to words.
Guess what?
We have a “winner”!
Read the post of 4:18 and see if you can keep from vomiting.
The right-wing lunatic fringe, not just demented and dangerous anymore - immoral as well…
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this
I think you just gave yourself a Melvin.
By RW-(the original)
May 22, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this
Blowhard,
If Webb’s GI bill is so good and wonderful why did they sneak it into a supplemental war funding bill rather than let this grand and glorious legislation be debated on it’s merits?
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this
AmVet, seriously, in the next couple days let’s try to figure out what happened with McC and the Webb bill. Those guys are (were?) extra-tight.
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this
RW-(t.o.),
Please, let’s all get this straightened out, and if we have to have differing versions, then so be it (I’d probably wind up with you). But it’s important to several of us here, and I for one think it might illuminate McCain’s odd personality (if not Webb’s). In any event, it means more in this election season than does Bob Barr’s erstwhile positions on medical marijuana.
By AmVet
May 22, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Glenn, Ironically I got a canned email reply from Suxtobeus Chambless regarding his alternative.
His contention was essentially that Webb’s bill cost too much (???) and that it hurt retention rates as the transfer benefit was not good enough.
He did admit that the alternative was only slightly different and that S22 was a good bill.
The lunatic fringe hates it (though they are the self-proclaimed bastion of support for the troops!), I suppose, because some other fearless combat veteran like Pretty Boy Sean or Limberger told them to.
All I can say is get use to losing nut job neo-cons. REAL use to it.
Your demise is at hand…
01-20-09 The End of an Error
By @@
May 22, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Glenn:
I just heard about the Santa Cruz fires and the loss of the Nisene Mark. A terrible loss of second growth redwoods. We used to ride there and visit New Brighton Beach.
I’m from Solano County, Vacaville to be exact.
About the cartoon….
your fly’s open ml.
By RW-(the original)
May 22, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
Glenn,
I went through the bill, or I guess pork sandwich now, and laid out the flaws I saw in it. Suffice it to say that if the version that was available becomes law all one would need is a doctor to make a claim of stress that wasn’t there when the recruit entered the service and he gets a full four year education complete with housing and a grand a month spending money. That could be within days of his or her enlistment.
By Buy Danish
May 22, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
Wow. Maxine Waters came out in favor of socializing, uh, nationalizing the oil companies today.
Viva Chavez!
By Glenn
May 22, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this
@@,
I’m glad it’s not your people’s county. Yes, I know it too (very well). I’ve never ridden there, though; however, my best riding days were in your county.
I’m really sad for those folks. And yeah, it is second-growth and progeny, but it’s 1920’s second-growth, and had the fire crowned to the North instead, it would have taken some of the last remaining Old Giants. Gawd.
AmVet, I still think you’re making all kinds of categorical errors except for this one: Saxby’s an inflatible purchased from the back pages of a comic book.
I haven’t been kidding about the ME-dee-yuh no longer encompassing recognizable journalism, though, and so I do truly believe that if concerned citizens want to know about political affairs they have to find out for themselves—-and stop falling for “brands” that hang out vaguely journalistic shingles, such as “The Atlanta Journal-Constitution”.
So let’s go. I’m down for it. I hope RW is too.
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