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Home > Opinion > Mike Luckovich > Archives > 2008 > May > 20 > Entry

Pulling strings

By Mike Luckovich | Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 06:12 AM

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By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

Hey, that cigar is an Autero Fuente Don Carlos Presidente, how fitting.

Nice subtle connection there, cartoon boy.

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Top of the Urinal/DNC front page:

{{{{Appeal: >>>>War trauma<<<<< led GI to kill- Martinez and four other soldiers went out for a >>>>>night of hard drinking<<<<< in Columbus. By the end of the night, one soldier, Spc. Richard R. Davis, 24, was a tattered corpse, stabbed more than 30 times by Martinez.}}}}

Soldiers getting drunk and fighting, why, that’s a first!

Then it must mean that they killed because of………….Iraqi war trauma!

Lucky for us, more anti American Propaganda! A two fer one, we can dis the Iraq war and free a cold blooded killer back on to the streets!

I’ll bet you Urinalists are just so hard with joy.

P.S.- This is an appeal to a life sentence, where lawyers usually trot out their twinkie defenses or whatever didn’t lose the first time around.

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{{{{France, Hamas reveal secret talks-Urinal/DNC}}}}

Aahhh, so Obambi is a French Muslim, eh?

Look at what we got from the AJC/DNC, rolling out a propaganda article on behalf of the cult, trying to imply that everybody talks to terrorists.

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Screaming Urinal/DNC headline:

{{{{Army ready to deploy seven brigades to Iraq!!!!}}}}

Buried in the story:

{{{{The deployments will be part of the regular rotation of troops into Iraq}}}}

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Remember the story a few months back where al Qaeda, running short on adult male suicide bombers, started training young boys and women to be throat cutters?

Guess who got the blame for it:

{{{{The U.S. military is holding about 500 juveniles in detention centers in Iraq, A U.N. committee is scheduled to question the U.S. representatives -Urinal/DNC}}}}

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

{{{{Specifically, White House counselor Ed Gillespie laments that PMSNBC edited the interview in a way that “is clearly intended to give viewers the impression that [Bush] agreed with [correspondent Richard Engel’s] characterization of his remarks when he explicitly challenged it.}}}}

{{{{“This deceitful editing to further a media-manufactured storyline is utterly misleading and irresponsible and I hereby request in the interest of fairness and accuracy that the network air the President’s responses to both initial questions in full on the two programs that used the excerpts,” said Gillespie in the letter to NBC News President Steve Capus.}}}}

{{{{“I noticed that around September of 2007, your network quietly stopped referring to conditions in Iraq as a ‘civil war,’ ” Gillespie wrote. “Is it still NBC News’s carefully deliberated opinion that Iraq is in the midst of a civil war? If not, will the network publicly declare that the civil war has ended, or that it was wrong to declare it in the first place?”}}}}

Bwa.

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Aahhh, yes, thee corpse is alive and well:

{{{{Bruno defended her reasoning for staying in the presidential race Monday afternoon by pointing out that Karl Rove’s analysis shows her to be the strongest candidate against John McCain in November.}}}}

{{{{“I’m going to make [my case] until we have a nominee,” she told a crowd at a high school gym, “but we’re not going to have one today and we’re not going to have one tomorrow and we’re not going to have one the next day.}}}}

{{{{“Dis is nowares nears overs, nun of us is goings tu haves thee number of deleegates we’s goings tu needs tu gets tu thee nominashuns,” she argued in her finest fake southern drawl.}}}}

By Goldie

May 20, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

Love the ‘toon, Lucko! McBush is the engineer of his Double-Talk Express and the wheels have come off of that train!

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

{{{{Bush, the officials said, opined that Hizbullah’s show of strength was evidence of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s crowing influence. They said that according to Bush, “the disease must be treated - not its symptoms.”}}}}

{{{{In an address to the Knesset during his visit here last week, Bush said that “the president of Iran dreams of returning the Middle East to the Middle Ages.”}}}}

{{{{“America stands with you in firmly opposing Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions,” Bush said. “Permitting the world’s leading sponsor of terror to possess the world’s deadliest weapon would be an unforgivable betrayal of future generations. For the sake of peace, the world must not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.”}}}}

I’m good with this.

Now let’s do something about it.

By Copyleft

May 20, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Even pointing out McLame’s hypocrisy and flip-flopping doesn’t seem necessary. The guy’s guaranteed to lose anyway.

How long till we can swear in President Obama and start fixing up this devastated country?

By The Devil You Say

May 20, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

The problem with Luckovich’s (and the rest of the sycophantic left)is that they ignore the fact that Hillary and Barak have just as many if not more connections to lobbyists and ‘big money donors’ as any Republican. Also, the “honorable” Senator Obama has unilaterally decided that if you bring up his connection to corrupt Chicago political figures like that crook Rezco or Jeremiah Wright, or bring up actions of surrogates, including his America-hating wife, then somehow you are a racist or ‘low-class’. McCain at least has not been one of the biggest sinners in the Senate when it comes to earmarks.

This is all irrelevant anyway, as the Republicans will lose the presidency this November. It will be close. But as I have said so often in the past couple of weeks, it will be a repeat of the 1976 to 1980 scenario. However, the Republicans will make even bigger gains in the midterm and the 2012 election will be an even bigger blowout than 1980 was. You Democrats better watch out because this will be liberalism/socialisms last hurrah!

By Shawny

May 20, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

Call the waaaahmbulance….Michelle O is off limits…(http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/05/when-political.html)

By Copyleft

May 20, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

Funny, that’s what the Reaganauts said in the 80s… and here we are, back and stronger than ever!

Keep wishing, Devil… keep wishing.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

THANKS DEVIL YOU SAY FOR ALL THAT SUBSTANCE.

YOUR POST, was filled with loads of facts and data. You provided us with an abundance of information that substantiates your claims.

WE are overwhelmed by how thoroughly researched your post was. It is obvious that you delved through mountains of publications and studys to provide us with your usual hard hitting analysis.

You are amazingly close to the real American population. We can feel how in touch you are with the folks who are doing the real work of this nation.

Wow, Devil - you’re doing a heck of a job!

By Speech Writer

May 20, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

Clinton could be the puppet too. with all the strings attached. ANd he’s like pinochio, that is, he’s saying, “I did not have sex with that woman”, lying, and that’s not his nose that’s growing.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 20, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

By The Devil You Say 8:22 AM

{{{The problem with Luckovich’s (and the rest of the sycophantic left)is that they ignore the fact that Hillary and Barak have just as many if not more connections to lobbyists and ‘big money donors’ as any Republican.}}}

Bingo!!! You beat me to that post, Devil. Just another partisan attack from the resident left wing hack. Do you suppose Obama is paying ML for ads?

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

77-1 - that’s the ratio of lobbyists to Congressmen (House and Senate) - according to CNN last night.

That’s insane.

Hey, is anyone going to enter Luckovich’s name the couple contest? I’ve got to think of some good names.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 20, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

By The Devil You Say 8:22 AM

{{{The problem with Luckovich’s (and the rest of the sycophantic left)is that they ignore the fact that Hillary and Barak have just as many if not more connections to lobbyists and ‘big money donors’ as any Republican.}}}

Bingo!!! You beat me to that post, Devil. Just another partisan attack from the resident left wing hack. Do you suppose Obama is paying ML for ads?

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Obama Statement on Passage of the Senate Farm Bill Chicago, IL | May 15, 2008 Chicago, IL — Senator Barack Obama today released the following statement in response to the passage of the Senate Farm Bill.

“I applaud the Senate’s passage today of the Farm Bill, which will provide America’s hard-working farmers and ranchers with more support and more predictability.”

“The bill places greater resources into renewable energy and conservation. And, during this time of rising food prices, the Farm Bill provides an additional $10 billion for critical nutrition programs. I am also pleased that the bill includes my proposal to help thousands of African-American farmers get their discrimination claims reviewed under the Pigford settlement.”

“This bill is far from perfect. I believe in tighter payment limits and a ban on packer ownership of livestock. As president, I will continue to fight for the interests of America’s family farmers and ranchers and ensure that assistance is geared towards those producers who truly need them, instead of large agribusinesses. But with so much at stake, we cannot make the perfect the enemy of the good.”

“By opposing the bill, President Bush and John McCain are saying no to America’s farmers and ranchers, no to energy independence, no to the environment, and no to millions of hungry people.”

AND

Obama Says Energy Bill Helps Illinois by Doubling Ethanol Use, Investing in Clean Coal Friday, July 29, 2005 Printable FormatFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Washington Contact: Robert Gibbs or Tommy Vietor, (202) 228-5511 Illinois Contact: Julian Green, (312) 886-3506 Date: June 29, 2005

Obama Says Energy Bill Helps Illinois by Doubling Ethanol Use, Investing in Clean Coal

WASHINGTON - U.S. Senator Barack Obama Friday voted in favor of the comprehensive energy bill, saying it will help Illinois and start America down the path to energy independence by doubling ethanol use, greatly increasing the availability of E85 ethanol pumps, and investing in combination plug-in hybrid and flexible-fuel vehicles, as well as clean-coal technology. However, he warned that bolder action is required if lawmakers are really serious about dealing with the high energy costs that are plaguing American consumers.

“This bill, while far from a solution, is a first step toward decreasing America’s dependence on fo

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

OK SO IT WAS TOO MUCH FOR ONE POST>>>>

Obama Says Energy Bill Helps Illinois by Doubling Ethanol Use, Investing in Clean Coal Friday, July 29, 2005 Printable FormatFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Washington Contact: Robert Gibbs or Tommy Vietor, (202) 228-5511 Illinois Contact: Julian Green, (312) 886-3506 Date: June 29, 2005

Obama Says Energy Bill Helps Illinois by Doubling Ethanol Use, Investing in Clean Coal

WASHINGTON - U.S. Senator Barack Obama Friday voted in favor of the comprehensive energy bill, saying it will help Illinois and start America down the path to energy independence by doubling ethanol use, greatly increasing the availability of E85 ethanol pumps, and investing in combination plug-in hybrid and flexible-fuel vehicles, as well as clean-coal technology. However, he warned that bolder action is required if lawmakers are really serious about dealing with the high energy costs that are plaguing American consumers.

“This bill, while far from a solution, is a first step toward decreasing America’s dependence on foreign oil,” said Obama. “It requires that 7.5 billion gallons of ethanol be mixed with gasoline by 2012. That’s 7.5 billion gallons of fuel that will be grown in the corn fields of Illinois, and not imported from the deserts of the Middle East. The bill will also help triple the number of E85 ethanol fueling stations in the next year by providing a tax credit for their construction. This will help the millions of people who already drive flexible-fuel vehicles to fill their tanks with fuel made from 85 percent ethanol that is 50 cents cheaper than regular gasoline.”

“I am also pleased that the bill includes funding I requested for research into combination plug-in hybrid and flexible fuel vehicles that could travel up to 500 miles per gallon of gasoline, as well as more investment into clean-coal technology.”

The Energy bill will do the following:

Create a Renewable Fuels Standard that will nearly double the amount of ethanol used by 2012.

Provide up to a $30,000 tax credit for the construction of E85 ethanol fueling stations.

Provide a $1.8 billion tax credit for investments in clean-coal facilities.

Provide $85 million to Southern Illinois University, Purdue University, and the University of Kentucky for research and testing on developing Illinois basin coal into transportation fuels.

Provide $40 million fo

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

AND THE BALANCE

Provide $40 million for research on combined plug-in hybrid and E85 flexible fuel vehicles that have the potential to drive 500 miles per gallon of gasoline used.

Provide incentives to promote biofuels from agricultural resources.

While voting for the bill, the Illinois Senator also said he believes that the legislation still falls short of what could and should be done to put America on the path to energy independence.

“Although this a step forward, it’s not a very big step,” said Obama. “The Department of Energy predicts that American demand will jump by 50 percent over the next 15 years. Meanwhile, the conservative Heritage Foundation says this bill will do virtually nothing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. And it won’t reduce the price of gasoline paid by hardworking Americans. Even President Bush and supporters of the bill in Congress concede as much.”

“We could have done more today, and we should do more in the future. We must accept and embrace the challenge of finding a solution to our dependence on foreign oil as one of the most pressing problems of our time. It won’t be easy and it won’t be without sacrifice, but we owe it to ourselves and to our children so that we can bring down gas prices, protect our environment, and strengthen our national security. This should be one of our top priorities in America.”

“So, I vote for this bill reluctantly today, disappointed that we have missed our opportunity to do something bolder that would have put us on the path to energy independence. This bill should be the first step, not the last, in our journey towards energy independence.”

By Speech Writer

May 20, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

Gee what amazing pundits blog here. Both parties get donations for the same corporations? Gee, nobody knew that. You guys are genius pudwits. Wow. We’re not worthy.

You two tag team tincture swabs should start your own radio show.

Obama 08: yeah, he’s a politician, but he will lead this country out of the quagmire it’s in.

McCain 08: I’ve seen more vigor in a bowl of soup.

Bloggers on this blog: Dented, and pointed heads pointing out the unpointed points of pointed stupidity.

moron 08: duhhhhhh

retard 08: duhhhhhhhpfzztzz!!!

By RB from Gwinnett

May 20, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

Bosch, They may as well be named Barak and Hillary because everything they say is right out of DNC headquarters. Maybe Nancy and Harry?

By RB from Gwinnett

May 20, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Bosch, They may as well be named Barak and Hillary because everything they say is right out of DNC headquarters. Maybe Nancy and Harry?

By @@

May 20, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Pssst! You know those two fellas who walked out before Bush finished his speech to Israel’s Parliament? Turns out….

Some of the flak which landed on the senator was directed against his lobbyists, whose arrival to woo Israeli and Jewish support was timed to coincide with the presidential participation in Israel’s anniversary celebrations.

Obama’s lobbyists, DEBKAfile’s sources report, made a point of talking to most of the American Jewish leaders attending the international conference and asked them to support the Democratic senator’s bid for the presidency. DEBKAfile’s sources heard from some of them that their chief concern is that, if Obama wins the nomination, Clinton’s Jewish supporters will be lost to the Democrats and drift all the way over to the Republican candidate instead of voting for Obama.

I know how you liberals feel about the Jewish lobby. Obama’s got them working in his campaign.

What I wanna know is how you guys feel about Michelle squeezing Barack’s gonads until he whines?

Michelle Obama looks like a woman who can take care of herself. I compare Barack’s reaction to the TN GOP ad to Hillary’s “emotional moment”. Here’s what one observer had to say about Hillary’s “moment”:

(((Do we really need an individual who is self-absorbed, who cries foul when things don’t go her way? I say no. What we need is someone honest and responsible.)))

Well that obviously wouldn’t be Barack Obama now would it? He “cries” foul at every turn.

I read where Glenn wanted dems and Barack to “NAME HIM/SELF”. I’ll give it a go.

Barack Obama: “I R REGARDLESS”…

By getalife

May 20, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

He has a super-lobbyist heading his campaign named Charlie Black. There are over 47,000 lobbyists in a billion dollar legal bribe industry.

Until they are banned, nothing will change and business as usual.

But drink the kool aid.

By Shawny

May 20, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

farmers need more subsidies (when revenues are up over 50%) like oil companies need more subsidies.

Ethanol is a loosing proposition. There are no pipelines for it. It must be trucked to distribution facilities. It takes more energy to create than it produces when consumed. Miles per gallon when using ethanol decrease considerably compared to conventional gasoline. It drives up the price of corn, which in turn, drives up the price of meat products.

Why are we not burning hydrogen yet?

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

To whomever addressed me last night on the “gay marriage” issue:

Good post. I appreciated your comments.

My point about it’s a church thing and not a judge thing is my wish that it was a NON-ISSUE - if that makes sense.

But the legal issues you brought up were good points, and sadly must be addressed. I really couldn’t imagine family members doing such a thing, but yes, unfortunately, it does happen, and yes, should be addressed by a judge - and yes, any family member who would be that horrible should be struck by lightning. Marriage is a weird thing - on one level, it’s basically a contract - on the other level, it’s a spiritual union between two people.

Did you know that there is a drop off of young people getting married in Europe (from what I’ve read) because they don’t see the need in it? I think that’s pretty interesting.

I do sympathize with gay and lesbians who want to commit to marriage. I think they should be able to get married just like anyone else.

Now, please don’t take this the wrong way, but, I really just don’t think about gay marriages, civil unions, etc. as most people do. It seems the ones who really think about it are either a) gay - and want to get married, or b) fundamentalist freaks who think that the institution of marriage will some how be mystically ruined because of it.

I don’t fit in either category, so I’m certainly glad you posted that to keep us informed.

The only time I do really think about it, is when I’m completely outraged and repulsed that something so ridiculous as to ask whether two people should or should not be able to get freaking MARRIED turns up on my voting ballot.

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

RB,

Why don’t you submit that entry?

By The Devil You Say

May 20, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Here is a prediction for everyone. The Democrats will gain 20-25 seats in the House. They will gain 5 seats in the Senate. Obama will win 296 electoral votes, thus winning the presidency. He will win because Obama will carry Ohio and Iowa, which Bush carried last time. He will receive 48% of the popular vote to McCain’s 47%. The Libertarian and Green candidates will get about 1-2% each. Others will divvy up the rest.

By Paul

May 20, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:11

Well, three’s a start.

Is the issue “Lobbyists” or “McCain’s Lobbyists”? If the former, what do your web sites have to say about the Dem Congress Agricultural Committee lobbyists with that horrendous, self-serving, pork-laden Ag Bill?

This is great: Dem Senator Patrick Leahy, of Vermont, He Who is Righteous and a Condemner of the Unrighteous Bush Earth Killers, had an insert in the bill. Seems he made it possible for some forest to be sold to… ski resort developers! Why? Because… selling the land and trees to use as a ski resort will… help save the forest!

Only in Washington.

Don’t you find it a bit contradictory - after all the whoopla about the Bush Tax Cuts benefiting the wealthiest Americans, and how we just can’t let them continue (a position with which I’m okay), that the Democratic bill contained tax break after tax break after tax break… for some of America’s wealthiest families? Not “multinational corporations” but “wealthiest families?”

So how are your web sites handling this story? Silence?

From your remaining posts: are we to assume, then, that an Obama Administration will have the support of a Democratic Congress in banning lobbyists from the halls of power? It’s a simple question. Embarrassing, but simple.

ITN 8:59

Kinda reminds me of the guy whose wife came home, loaded with expensive stuff, and she said “It was on sale! I save a thousand bucks!” He said “We’re gonna go broke with all the money you’re saving us.”

Does this mean a Pres Obama will have the same veto record as Pres Bush?

To coin a word… geez.

getalife

“a billion dollar legal bribe industry.”

Good one. Public financing, term limits, anyone?

By @@

May 20, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

(((LOOK IT FOUND A KOSHER STRATFOR!!!!)))

^^^ That coming from a poster who constantly runs a delusional fever here from the swamps of far left-wing site?

“Mother Jones”

“TPM Cafe”

“Think Progress”

“Democratic Underground”

“Huffington Post”

“Crooks and Liars”

“AmericaBlog”

“Brad Blog”

“DailyKos”

Did I miss any ITN?

By The Devil You Say

May 20, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

ITN - it actually is quite substantive. I won’t thank you because I know sarcasm when I see it. I actually did do the research and my last post will verify that. However, I also lived through the last Demoncrat with NO experience to speak of, and it was an unmitigated disaster. People liked his smile too. He had also made good grades in school and spoke in glowing generalities and promised the moon to everyone. He was, and is, a walking disaster area. Obama will be Dummy Carter times two. I wish I could hibernate for the next four years!

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Shawny,

Why aren’t we burning body fat? I think that would work.

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

Gin works better than hibernating.

By The Devil You Say

May 20, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Paul - We have the First Amendment which guarantees the people the right to petition Congress for redress of grievances. We cannot outlaw lobbying or lobbyists. We must actually depend on our Representatives and Senators being honest. In the case of Patrick Leahy, that’s like asking a mouse to roar like a lion. It might happen, but I wouldn’t bet on it!

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch May 20, 2008 9:28 AM or b) fundamentalist freaks who think that the institution of marriage will some how be mystically ruined because of it.}}}}

Bosch: Don’t get me wrong here, I totally understand that you modern day liberals are Thee Exalted and Brilliant Magistrates of Moral Conduct, Endowed With Thee Grandest and Most Magnificent Intelligence In All Thee Universe, but for thousands of years our forefathers seemed to think that homosexuality was a sickness beneath the contempt of any normal, self respecting adult and certainly not something that was fit to be paraded around in public. You know, keep your self depraved deviancies to yourself, out of respect for the children to whom we owe a chance to live their lives without their genitals being the Sole and All Encompassing focus of their existence. You know what I mean, maturity and all that.

If you don’t mind, I think I will stick with the thousands of years of time worn wisdom, wisdoms that have made this country as great as it is.

Count me out of it’s ruination.

By Copyleft

May 20, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

I think America has finally realized how they screwed up in not listening to Jimmy Carter. He wanted to get us off the oil-dependence habit 30 years ago!

Swaggering arrogance, rampant deficits, and shortsighted warmongering have ruled the day since then, and America is much worse off as a result. Fortunately, most Americans now recognize that and are ready to go back to basic: good, solid, sensible liberalism.

Can’t wait for President Obama to start fixing things!

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

AJC Management,

Thousands of years ago, men also thought that the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around us, and there were gods in the sky who controlled the weather with sticks, and animals were more valued than women.

I think as a society, we are a little beyond this, or at least we should be.

By The Devil You Say

May 20, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the suggestion Bosch, but I don’t drink gin. I’m not a Kennedy.

By weights and standards

May 20, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

we need Hydrogen to power our cars now in the USA why? china and India are just coming on line and they will use a lot more than us in the next 20 years.

We need a law to have all kinds of fuels at the pump in the next 5 years. Oil is not the future.

yes we need to drill for some oil but we need to move very fast to fuels that are clean and cheep. The Oil company will never push to move to new fuels why ?

At a 126 dollars a barrel they may a ton of money !Alternative fuels is the key word not just oil!

We are slow to change and the time has come and now is! we must change and fast!America get off of the sauce!

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

Try rum then.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

@@

No you missed a few

The Guardian

The New York Times

The Washington Post

The Hill

CNN

FOX (only when it’s really riduculous)

The GAO

The CBO

ABC

CBS

NBC

MCNBC

RedState

TownHall

Little Green footballs

Chicago Tribune

San Fancisco Chronicle

Los Angele Times

Wall Street Journal

Slate

The Times of London

Financial Times

USA Today

The Drudge Report

Congressional Quarterly

The Nation

The New Republic

Newsweek

Time

Rolling Stone

C-Span

Bloomberg

PBS

Politico

To name just a few more!

By Kruschev's Father

May 20, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

It’s very hard to resist dancing on conservatism’s graves as represented by the uberpudwits comments on the right here. Man they’ve really got nothing left.

Obama is our defacto president. McCain is a joke. He’s get 28-35 percent of the popular vote in November, which is the Bush Base, and Rushannity’s audience.

The country has moved on, and conservatives are still thinking that the daisy’s their pushing up are relevant, well, they do make excellent grave markers are reminders of what happens when any political party divorces themselves from the people, from justice, and from the American Way.

May conservatism rest in peace. Hey, worms gotta eat, same as buzzards. (outlaw josey wales)

By The Devil You Say

May 20, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

copyleft - Old Dummy never said any such thing. He was exploring alternative carbon fuels at the time and was looking to increase domestic production. He also put a lot of emphasis on conservation. The problem is that he NEVER developed any kind of coherent energy policy. The world supply situation eased up and soon we were back to our old ways. The moral of the story is, though, that we cannot dictate the solution to this through government programs. The market will do it, and it will happen when the time is right and the technology will come from such incentives, just as kerosine came along to replace whale oil for lamps when that resource was almost completely depleted because of the murder of hundreds upon thousands of whales!

By N-GA

May 20, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

These mandates (laws?) that force one group’s morality on all others continues to perplex me.

For example, the concept of single versus plural marriage is sold primarily by religious zealots. Personally I think people should be able to have as many spouses as they want, provided the state (taxpayers) doesn’t have to pay assistance for the children. I hold this view regardless of gender. How many wives did some of those old testament dudes have?

And the idea that our forefathers had problems with homosexuality. I guess that anyone with that opinion has no Greeks or Romans (or many other “nationalities”) in their family tree.

The idea of forbidding gay marriage is lost on me as well. After all, the concept of marriage has much of its history in religion…it is a sacrament or “rite”, performed even by pagans (Druids). Let’s stop letting states sponsor “marriage” as a sacrament, and require that it be called a civil union. Then any church can perform “marriage” ceremonies for whoever they want.

Kinda like this issue in Georgia politics concerning Sunday liquor sales. The hypocrites want to “preserve the sanctity of the Sabbath” while denying certain freedoms to others. Then the same people (read: Governor) authorizes a special liquor sales dispensation for the Gwinnett sports arena?

Personally I think those of you who want to impose your morality on others are reminiscent of the reasons why so many religious groups fled to America in the first place!

By Paul

May 20, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Devil 9:47

An excellent point. Actually, I was trying to point out the discrepancy in the “McCain lobbyists bad, Congress lobbyists… no comment” approach.

I noted once before lobbyists come in all forms - teachers, retirees, disabled kids, environmental. And the “petitioning” the government is right there in the Constitution. It’s the bribery that bugs me. Or Congressional staffs not doing their work and letting lobbyists draft legislation.

Appropriate limits might be doable.

BTW - on a hot summer day - gin and tonic water. Great combo.

Bosch - try Citadel gin. French. They don’t have the history of gin making but they got it right with this one.

ITN 10:04

“FOX (only when it’s really riduculous)”

A chink in the wall, there? And does that infer the other sites are never ridiculous?

Out for a bit - cheers

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

N-GA -

Bingo and an amen.

By The Devil You Say

May 20, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

N-GA - actually, it is religious zealots who are the ones who promote polygamy and polyandry. And those groups are even more vocal in their opposition to homosexual marriage. However, polygamy is also one of the worst forms of exploitation of women I can think of. In ancient times it was reserved for the royal and very rich. It is primitive archaic and immoral. There can be no societal reason to allow such a practice. There is a reason that it died out in western culture around 500 BC. Muhammad did revive it, but you see how many rights women have in Muslim societies!

By Paul

May 20, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

N-GA

The marriage thing - I think the term is a hot-button issue that both sides use to perpetuate the flow of contributions, as neither side is willing to compromise. I think a simple “civil union” law that says you get all the rights AND responsibilities of marriage would work just fine.

But the real reason I waited before leaving - it was a 1999 Rosso del Bepi. Beautiful 1.5 l bottle - the wax over the cork was a vivid red, appeared to have been hand-dipped. I understand that’s the kind that doesn’t make his amarone cut. But the flavor was incredible, and the scent… I sat for a long time just swirling and sniffing. Thank heavens for an accident of birth and a generous brother.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Analysis: Flap conflicts with McCain’s image

@@ Did I mention the AP?

By truthman

May 20, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

I was just on eBay. Barack Obama has 1,794 items for sale, with the top price being $400K for a domain name.

By contrast, John McCain has only 474 items for sale, the priciest being $510.00 for an autographed item.

Obama totally wins the eBay election.

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Aahhh, yes, the moonbat talking points response:

{{{{By Bosch May 20, 2008 9:59 AM AJC Management, Thousands of years ago, men also thought that the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around us, and there were gods in the sky who controlled the weather with sticks, and animals were more valued than women.}}}}

I’m pretty sure that anyone of intelligent substance would have read my comments and made note of the word “FOR” a thousand years and would have not thrown silly things at me from a thousand years “AGO.”

Hell, operating on that simpleton level of understanding, am I not now obliged to retort that liberals thought they were right about “global warming,” banning DDT, appeasement and all the other disasters that their moronic ideas have wrought?

{{{{By N-GA May 20, 2008 10:10 AM And the idea that our forefathers had problems with homosexuality. I guess that anyone with that opinion has no Greeks or Romans (or many other “nationalities”) in their family tree.}}}}

How very fitting N-GA, somehow tie our forefathers to the Roman Empire, an empire which collapsed upon itself in ruin, awash in the most disgusting and stupid immorality.

My point exactly dude, thanks for the suggestion.

You liberals go ahead and keep on thinking that every pervert thought that crosses your depraved little minds is Sheer Genius and Thee Greatest Idea That Has Ever Been Hatched, and our country will keep paying the price for your exalted degeneracy, broken families, rampant diseases, failed education system and all the other tragedies that you own.

Count me out of our ruination.

By The Devil You Say

May 20, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

truthman - Obama will win, in a squeaker, but such measures of popularity are only rarely indicative of a result of an election. The size of crowds is another that doesn’t work very well. McGovern and Carter drew HUGE crowds in 1972 and 1980 respectively and they got CREAMED! McGovern also had quite a bit of enthusiastic support among the anti-war crowd and youths.

By Whoa!

May 20, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Bosch, thanks for listening and your thoughtful replies—especially to the flat-earther above. Incredible that people like that are still floating around out there.

One thing that you mentioned was the spiritual component; I assume that truth when any two people are looking to take the plunge.

N-GA - another amen.

By N-GA

May 20, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Devil,

You’re right that most polygamists are religious zealots, as are the those who strongly oppose them. Let God sort it out!

As far as women and polygamy, I made a point of saying that it should not be gender-specific. Quite frankly, there could be unions involving several individuals of both sexes (group marriage?). Who knows? Or cares?

When you remarked “It is primitive archaic and immoral. There can be no societal reason to allow such a practice.”, you should have prefaced it with IMO. BTW, if there were some form of global war or other holocaust, there may be cause for a few remaining men to find unions with many women necessary in order to keep the human race going. Just an observation.

Paul,

I now intend to make a point of finding and enjoying one of his wines. I think I’ve located a NYC retailer.

Off until much later, or tomorrow.

By AmVet

May 20, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

If you “fiscal conservatives” REALLY want to save a few bucks, how about looking elsewhere, maybe even at the people and organizations who have profited greatly (and quasi-legally) at the expense of the guys who make it possible?

This week, the Senate is expected to take up the 21st Century GI Bill, offered by Senators Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel, after the measure passed the House last week.

Many of us have challenged Senator John McCain to back the Webb-Hagel bill. As you may or may not know, Senator McCain has his own watered-down measure that only gives a fraction of the costs of college to veterans. As our veterans say in a TV ad, “We didn’t give a fraction in Iraq, we gave 100 percent.”

Ditto in Texas, where veterans have challenge Senator John Cornyn to back the Webb-Hagel bill. Senator Cornyn is one of the few Senators representing a large veterans population who has not signed onto the Webb-Hagel Bill.

SUPPORT THE TROOPS. NOT BUSH’S WAR.

By @@

May 20, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS @ 10:04:

Puhleeeeeze. If you link to those sites, it’s on very rare occasions - when they dish the dirt you crave.

Your links thus far today:

Huffington

Media Matters

Mother Jones

TPM Cafe

WaPo

Think Progress

MoveOn

Newsweek

DailyKos

alternet

Politico

A little heavy on the left wouldn’t you agree?

I’m not clear whether you simply didn’t like the website “Global Politician”, “DEBKA” or the FACT that Obama is working with Israeli lobbyists. You might wanna check out some of the black media websites. Obama’s support for Palestine impressed them while he was a state senator in Illinois. Now? They’re disappointed he’s working with the Israel Lobby.

They see it the same way DEBKA does.

Has something to do with the Israel/Apartheid thingy.

By truthman

May 20, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Devil…your first six words said it all: “Obama will win in a squeaker.”

I AM GLAD “DEVIL” HAS, FINALLY, SEEN THE LIGHT AND ADMITTED THAT OBAMA IS A LEAD-PIPE CINCH TO WIN IN NOVEMBER. ALL PROGRESSIVES, PLEASE JOIN ME IN A ROUND OF “NO DUH!” FOR “DEVIL!”

Thank you! Now, all of your comments to the contrary are moot…null and void!

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Whoa!

“Incredible that people like that are still floating around out there”

Yes, indeed, but unfortunately there are, frustrating, I’m sure for you.

The one thing that has always bothered me the most about this issue is the notion that because a person is gay/lesbian, then they don’t have feelings, or somehow their feelings don’t count because of who they fall in love with.

It’s always been my position that to truly fall in love with someone is the best thing in the world - it doesn’t matter if that person is the same gender or not.

I think of all the “straight” people who get married with absolutely no spiritual bond, or those who completely ignore it - the Britney Spears of the world, and those who cheat, divorce, etc. because of utterly selfish reasons - but those people are okay in the eyes of the flat earthers because at least they were married to someone of the opposite sex.

Sigh…….Weird.

By Whoa!

May 20, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Andie, if you look anything like your hate-filled posts, no worries - you’ve already been “counted out.”

By truthman

May 20, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Wrongly accused Army Chaplain is now Obama delegate:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2004426255_apguantanamochaplaindelegate.html

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Thanks @@ for following me and my links!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 20, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

AJC says: “go ahead and keep on thinking that every pervert thought that crosses your depraved little minds is Sheer Genius and Thee Greatest Idea That Has Ever Been Hatched, and our country will keep paying the price for your exalted degeneracy, broken families, rampant diseases, failed education system and all the other tragedies that you own.”

I find it truly impressive that the right can have Larry Craig, Mark Foley, David Vitter and Vito Fossella among its members and still call itself the bastion of morality. I think that being a winger is knowing that while your own members are engaged in the most vile depravity known to man that you can still point the finger at some liberal who says that being gay isn’t so bad. Some might call it hypocrisy. I think its just electoral genuis.

I hope you have learned the lessons of the right-wing:

1) be gay but don’t tolerate gays.

2) cheat on your wife, but never sympathize with the frailties of people.

3) Immoral acts are fine. Failing to find fault in others is weakness.

Wingers are like the Baptist preacher who bangs the pulpit on Sunday and bangs the prostitute on Friday night.

Afterall, the entire right-wing is made up of pro-war draft-dodgers who question others patriotism. Dick Cheney got 7 deferments. Rush got out the draft by whining about an sore on his big rear. But it doesn’t stop then from acting like they are the defenders of America rather than the cowards that they are. Hypocrisy is to the right as water it to ocean.

I have a feeling that AJC blogs while orally stimulating sheep and all the while he’s thinking “I’m normal, I bet those libs would do worse. What sickos they are.”

Bwaaaaa!!!

RWNJIFG

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch May 20, 2008 10:48 AM It’s always been my position that to truly fall in love with someone is the best thing in the world - it doesn’t matter if that person is the same gender or not.}}}}

Alright, now reconcile that with the gay bath houses and establishments like Little Richards in Atlanta.

Or the fact of the gay couple that lives across from a church at the entrance to my neighboorhood, complete with the “colors” proudly displayed on the tailgate of their pick up truck, expressing their “love” for “each other” by inviting other homosexual couples over to spend the weekend together.

Maybe some day when you grow up, you will realize that you have deviantly defined down your existence in this world to be on the same level as animals that compulsively act on their every wanton and depraved desire.

(Apologies to the animals, who I truly believe have more respect for themselves, or at least have a normal sense of purpose, than liberals do.)

Count me out of the ruination.

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Believe me, I know the answer that is coming from the simpletons, adultery, strip clubs, blah, blah, blah, but when have you ever heard me or any other social Conservative advocating the moral sicknesses common to heterosexuals?

I know it is depraved and so do you, hahaha.

Just like I know Larry Craig is POS sodomite, so do you, I here it all the time, one could say you libs even dwell on it.

Let’s fix all of the cultural diseases.

Count me out of your ruination.

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

AJC Management,

And what about the “straight” people like Eliot Spitzer who pay prostitutes for sex, or who have sex with anything that moves except their wife?

What about the people like Britney Spears who get drunk and get married in Las Vegas and stay married for a day or so?

Sexual depravity knows gender or no sexual orientation.

Sorry, Duh, your argument belongs in the Inquistion years. We’ve come a long way since then.

By Daniel

May 20, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Bosch: The economy has gotten so bad Eliot Spitzer has to have sex with his wife!

By @@

May 20, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

(((Thanks @@ for following me and my links!)))

I only position the cursor over the blue text ITN. Just to see where it leads. I don’t read ‘em.

AJC/DNC Mgmt.:

I’ve been thinking about the progressive agenda on gay marriage since Cali’s SC ruling.

Having one in four, is it? young teenage girls contracting STDs is so very progressive. Given the fact that liberals believe that man evolved, I’d say that humans’ sexual behavior is, in fact, regressive. Animals will kill the runt of the litter to insure survival of the fittest. Promote the species.

Again…regressive.

Then I think…who’s encouraging the genocide of African American babies through abortion? Planned Parenthood, and the Democratic Party. Following Margaret Sanger’s lead I suppose.

Survival of the fittest?

Disgusting!

By truthman

May 20, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Those who thump their chest the most about the immorality of gays are, usually, those who ARE gay and have a reat amount of self-loathing.

If the shoe fits, eh, dunce/AJC/Andi?

How about we name the couple Henry and Celestine and celebrate two of the greatest writer/editors the AJC ever had!

By Daniel

May 20, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Vito Fosella just quit. That makes 30 republicans who will not seek re-election this fall.

By Whoa!

May 20, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

Andi, I’m glad your “moral sickness” compass does not distinguish between straight and gay with regards to bathhouses, strip clubs, wh*rehouses, street prostitution, serial polygamy, infedelity…

Harm is harm, whether harm is done to an individual or a covenant.

As far as the gay couple across the street from your church…when is it a bad thing to be hospitable to friends or family? Do you ever have friends or family visit for the weekend (insert your own joke here)?

Simple etiquitte only requires you to MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, and get about your day.

Projecting your colorful assumptions on to the situation only reflects your own latent longings. Jealousy isn’t pretty.

By truthman

May 20, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

Only you, @@, could come up with such conspiratorial claptrap!!

You are WAY OUT there in right, right field!!!

You probably wouldn’t have your daughter vaccinated for cervical cancer because intercourse increases a young woman’s risk, would you?

By Hedda Hopper

May 20, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Overheard at Silda Spitzer’s last hair appointment:

“Hll, if I’d known he was throwing around that kind of cash, I’d have fcked him myself!”

By Amazed

May 20, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

By Speech Writer May 20, 2008 8:40 AM Clinton could be the puppet too. with all the strings attached. ANd he’s like pinochio, that is, he’s saying, “I did not have sex with that woman”, lying

Aren’t we all continuously ‘amazed’ that some are ‘so amazed’ because Clinton lied about sex. He didn’t lie to America about WMD’s, and cause and is still causing many to die.

By Morningstar

May 20, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

By IN THE NEWS May 20, 2008 8:59 A

Thanks ITN. Always good to have the facts.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

@@

It’s obvious you don’t read them!

Painfully obvious to 80 some percent of us!!!

By @@

May 20, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

(((You probably wouldn’t have your daughter vaccinated for cervical cancer because intercourse increases a young woman’s risk, would you?)))

truthman:

I already answered that question when Anti-Radical asked me months ago. He was pleased with my answer. Go look it up.

I wanna know why the media hasn’t done more extensive coverage of the Planned Parenthood facility(ies) that are being investigated for racial discrimination favoring the acceptance of donations “specifically” earmarked for African American babies? It certainly wasn’t a liberal group who set up that sting of PP. I think I also read somewhere that liberals aren’t protesting the licensing of nurses to perform abortions. Hell, get enough people out there performing abortions and we won’t know what’s going on where and who’s doing what and how often.

Where’s the media coverage of those abortion clinics who are still performing late term abortions although the Federal Supreme Court and Democrats supported the ban of?

Scuse me, Obama didn’t support the ban in Illinois. Nope….abortions resulting in “live” births didn’t phase him one iota. Planned Parenthood supported him and he they in his/their support of an abominal practice of terminating, in some cases, a viable life.

Don’t accuse me of being conspiratorial when the majority of what you link has no basis in fact.

Paranoia, the sustenance of liberals.

Abortions and Margaret Sanger’s Planned Parenthood bio…FACT.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

[A thorough review of public opinion data indicates that America remains, on balance, a pro-choice country and that opposition to reversing Roe v. Wade still runs strong. A solid wall of public opposition currently stands in the way of abortion rights opponents’ plans to turn back the clock and criminalize abortion as it was before 1973—a wall that is unlikely to come down anytime soon….According to the most recent Gallup data from May of this year, a plurality of the country (49 percent to 45 percent) considers itself pro-choice rather than pro-life —an entirely typical result. Indeed, all 28 polls (save one, where there was a tie) where Gallup has asked this question, dating back to 1995, have returned a pro-choice plurality or majority.

Interestingly, a variant wording of this question used by Newsweek yields an even stronger pro-choice result. Newsweek asked: “Which side of the political debate on the abortion issue do you sympathize with more: the right-to-life movement that believes abortion is the taking of human life and should be outlawed; OR, the pro-choice movement that believes a woman has the right to choose what happens to her body, including deciding to have an abortion?” In the three times Newsweek has asked this question since 1998, an average of 54 percent selected the pro-choice option, compared to 37 percent who selected the right–to-life option.](http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/06/wtprw_repro.html)

If your own personal relationship with your personal Savior says anything different - follow your heart.

BUT

AS LONG AS THE CONSTITUTION IS THE LAW OF THE LAND, women have final authority over their bodies.

It is as it should be.

Now if we can just keep @@ out of everybody elses uterus we’d be ok!

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

{{{{By truthman May 20, 2008 11:24 AM Those who thump their chest the most about the immorality of gays are, usually, those who ARE gay and have a reat amount of self-loathing. If the shoe fits, eh, dunce/AJC/Andi?}}}}

Does it not surprise anyone that the person who would choose to defend homosexuals by calling me one is our very own truthie?

~~~~~

{{{{By Whoa! May 20, 2008 11:28 AM As far as the gay couple across the street from your church…when is it a bad thing to be hospitable to friends or family? Do you ever have friends or family visit for the weekend (insert your own joke here)? Simple etiquitte only requires you to MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, and get about your day.}}}}

Why don’t you follow your own advice, dimwit?

It is my business when it is paraded up and down the streets of my neighborhood or in front of my entire country and the innocent children that live in it, your self depraved sicknesses have become everybody’s business.

Which is my whole point.

We have become a nation that cares more about our own childish sexual gratification than we do about self respect, humility, dignity or honor.

You libs are a joke, third world people no better than a common head of cattle, you scold us for desecrating a Quran, the isolated act of one illiterate dumbas-s, how exactly do you think the Muslims feel about seeing the movie “Donny Does Dallas?”

You are the reason the world hates us, you and your Mecca of Perversion Hollywood.

Own it.

Count me out of your ruination.

By Morningstar

May 20, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

By The Devil You Say May 20, 2008 9:40 AM Obama will be Dummy Carter times two.

Devil, are you a nuclear engineer? Have you been a State Senator and Governor? I’m sure your credentials greatly exceed Jimmy Carters. Why don’t you throw your hat in the ring? “Devil For President.”

By Copyleft May 20, 2008 9:54 AM I think America has finally realized how they screwed up in not listening to Jimmy Carter. He wanted to get us off the oil-dependence habit 30 years ago!

This is correct. I referred someone (Bosch I think) to a speech Jimmy Carter made in April 1977 (I think this date is correct), after he took office, warning us of atrocities to come if we didn’t take steps to wean ourselves off foreign oil. Unfortunately, politics and greed dictated that we not heed his advise.

By Daniel

May 20, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

ITN: It’s not only the uterus they want into. It’s our bedrooms and heads. Fanatics do not know when to stop. In fact, they can’t. That’s what makes them fanatics. The Schiavo case is the classic example. The church and Federal Government wanted to substitute their judgment for Michael’s. People like Boobs just ache to tell us what to do. They trust the government to make decisions for us. I trust American women, with the advice of their doctors to make decisions about their bodies. I trust Michael Schiavo to make decisions about his life without the chirch telling him what to do.

By Morningstar

May 20, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

By Paul May 20, 2008 10:24 AM N-GA The marriage thing - I think the term is a hot-button issue that both sides use to perpetuate the flow of contributions, as neither side is willing to compromise. I think a simple “civil union” law that says you get all the rights AND responsibilities of marriage would work just fine.

Paul, hurray for a sane response. I agree it’s being used as a ‘hot button’ to get votes. Kinda like the abortion issue. I can’t imagine why a “civil union” law would be a problem with anyone. I think those who would object to a civil union may be those who have not educated themselves with regards to a civil union. They’re listening to some radical religious leader, news talk show or whatever to form their opinions. Guess that’s how most reach their “executive decision” about situations.

By @@

May 20, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

(((According to the most recent Gallup data from May of this year, a plurality of the country (49 percent to 45 percent) considers itself pro-choice rather than pro-life —an entirely typical result.)))

So you’re a proud member of the lynch mob, eh ITN?

You’re arguing on behalf of those who SHOULD be responsible adults, but because anything but responsibility is promoted by the left, all things are possible, damn the “little” consequences.

I’m arguing on behalf of the “little” consequences.

Let’s talk about abortion for the sake of convenience ITN….

Would that be YOUR convenience because too many African Americans might tip the balance? The mother’s convenience?

Abortion as a result of incest, rape, debilitating abnormalities or to save the life of the mother? FINE, but that’s not why most are performed.

It’s become a form of birth control so that mankind can enjoy indiscriminate sex whenever and as often as he/she wants. If it moves, screw it. If it can’t escape (the womb), kill it.

Disgusting!

By Whoa!

May 20, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Andi at 12:53:

You know what, brother? Straight people parade their relationships up and down my street all the time.

They hold hands, they kiss, sometimes they argue, and sometimes they lose their discretion and cop a feel or use some tongue. It happens with emotions and hormones flare. If you can’t deal with other people doing that, gay or strait, then you need to just gouge your eyes out.

Frankly, I think it’d be easier just to MYOB. But that’s never been a strength of you good “conservatives”, now has it?

We do agree on some things. One, discretion and dignity are important, no matter what your gender or orientation.

And Two, children shouldn’t be exposed to anything not age-appropriate. Simple as that.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

NO @@

YOU ARE ARGUE FROM YOUR OWN PERSONAL BELIEF SYSTEM.

YOU ARGUE FROM YOUR OPINION.

It’s ok, it’s allowed.

My opinion is different.

Most Americans opinion is different.

We will remain tolerant of your opinion, as long as you do not force it down anyones throat.

I am sure you are at least wise enough to understand that women are not gathering for abortion showers.

Hallmark is not making congratulations on your abortion cards.

I have yet to see a HONK if you love abortion bumper sticker.

Do some folks have abortions for “wrong” reasons - probably. But frankly, it’s none of your damn business.

The Constitution is the law of the land and it gives women dominion over their own bodies.

If you don’t like abortion become an activist. (I know you think Judges can’t be activists, but maybe you’ll let yourself be one)

If you don’t like the Constitution, well, move on dudette.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 20, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Listen up dimwits….

Nobody gives a crap if women choose to put lotion on their bodies, Wear makeup, pierce their anything and everythings, blah blah blah. Give the “what women do WITH THEIR BODIES a rest already”. We don’t care.

The issue, the one you like to gloss over by calling it “their bodies”, is the baby they’re choosing to kill. It’s a life no less human than every one of you. It may make you feel better to call it something other than the termination of a human life, but that doesn’t change the result. Dead baby. Shredded limb from limb by a medical vacuum cleaner; reassembled on the bedside to make sure they got it all. Live with the facts, libs. It’s your legacy.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 20, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Listen up dimwits….

Nobody gives a crap if women choose to put lotion on their bodies, Wear makeup, pierce their anything and everythings, blah blah blah. Give the “what women do WITH THEIR BODIES a rest already”. We don’t care.

The issue, the one you like to gloss over by calling it “their bodies”, is the baby they’re choosing to kill. It’s a life no less human than every one of you. It may make you feel better to call it something other than the termination of a human life, but that doesn’t change the result. Dead baby. Shredded limb from limb by a medical vacuum cleaner; reassembled on the bedside to make sure they got it all. Live with the facts, libs. It’s your legacy.

By getalife

May 20, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

Senator Kennedy has a malignant brain tumor.

I wish him luck in his upcoming battle.

God bless him.

By Daniel

May 20, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

ITN: You’re kind. Listen to Boobs: “…mankind can enjoy indiscriminate sex.” What kind of people think that thought? Do you mean mankind is actually out there balling away? Indiscriminatly, at that. And, enjoying it? GOOD LORD, what is the world coming to? @@’s wants to legalize “Discriminate sex”. See? Schiavo, revisited.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

NO RB

YOU TOO ARE ARGUING FROM YOUR OPINION.

And you do it exactly like all the others of your ilk.

I think it’s ironic that you are so concerned with the life of the infant that you have no thought whatseoever to the mother.

The issue that you like to “gore” over with bloody images, is a womans body and a womans freedon under the law to do as she wishes with it. And what she does with it is none of your damn business.

Actually there would be no need for abortion if we could just surgically implant the “sperm stopper 2000” (a cork) into the vas deferens of every male child born. Then we could have them removed as part of the wedding ceremony!

By Morningstar

May 20, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

By @@ May 20, 2008 1:16 PM It’s become a form of birth control so that mankind can enjoy indiscriminate sex whenever and as often as he/she wants. If it moves, screw it. If it can’t escape (the womb), kill it.

@@, there is little excuse for an unwanted pregnancy. So what’s the problem? Are we (ladies) too stupid to swallow a pill? We are not living in the 1950’s when doctors were too ignorant to advise/help women with birth control. I’m not advocating promiscuity, but anyone old enough to get caught with his/her drawers down, should have access to birth control.

Granted, sometimes birth control fails. I know someone who was supposedly taking an antiobotic which ‘killed the pill.’ Perhaps this is true, or she had a scatter brained day. At any rate, she now has a beautiful baby girl.

I’ve been looking at abortion statistics, and the reasons given may be true, but GET RESPONSIBLE. Responsibility will work MOST of the time.

At any rate, please keep the government out of the bedroom!

By @@

May 20, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

(((The church and Federal Government wanted to substitute their judgment for Michael’s. People like Boobs just ache to tell us what to do.)))

Daniel:

I had very little to say regarding Terry Schiavo. Weren’t there questions regarding how she ended up in a vegetative state? Cervical spine fractures? Heart attack? Do you know for certain that it wasn’t spinal fractures?

Michael? Didn’t he ask for money in a malpractice suit so that he could care for Terry? Once he received payment, did he use it to provide care for her in their home? I believe he put her in a nursing home after receiving payment slapping a DNR order on her chart. Is that correct? Didn’t he say on Larry King that it was HIS wish that Terri die, not hers? Didn’t one of Michael’s previous girlfriends confirm that it was Michael’s idea, not Terry’s?

All these questions….were they ever answered?

Who was the victim? Was it Michael…Terry…the parents who gave birth to her?

Of course you would side with Michael for his convenience. Being on the side of parents and their children just isn’t “trendy” by a liberal’s standards.

By Say It Ain't So

May 20, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Senator Kennedy has been a malignant tumor on society. He should have been rotting in jail since he murdered someone in a drunken stupor.

May the good Lord deal with him sooner rather than later!

It’s a good thing that the liberals only care about the law when they get caught. Long live the lefts mantra, if you get away with breaking the law, then ‘you’re okay’ by us!

By Midori

May 20, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

I was waiting for the right wing scum to post comments such as the 1:57.

If that’s the case, what kind of blight has that drunken, drug addled Bush been to and on our society? Judging by your “standards” does he deserve nothing less than Sen. Kennedy?

By @@

May 20, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS:

(((If you don’t like abortion become an activist.)))

That’s what I’m doin’ here - speaking for those who have no voice, be they red, yellow, black or white. Precious lives to those who care.

Then there’s you and those like you.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Say it ain’t so says:

“Senator Kennedy has been a malignant tumor on society. He should have been rotting in jail since he murdered someone in a drunken stupor.”

Matthew 6:14-16 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

OH OH THERE GOES HIS “CHRISTIAN” BONA FIDES!!!!

By Say It Ain't So

May 20, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

Big difference between Kennedy and President Bush.

A better comparison would be say Jeffery Dahmer or Wayne Williams and Kennedy.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 20, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett,

I agree with you. The moment that an egg is fertilized, it becomes an American citizen endowed with all of the attendant rights that come with that status. In short, the child is the property of the State. The child does not belong to the mother or the father, the child belongs to us. In fact, I think we ought to modify the term ‘mother’ into “Involutary Vessel in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen.”

I believe that women should be given mandatory preganancy tests daily and once determined to be an “Involutary Vessel in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen” she should have a State appointed guardian ad litem assigned to her to watch over her 24 hours a day/ seven days a week until our child is delivered. The duty of the guardian ad litem would be to police the activities of the “Involutary Vessel in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen” to ensure the safety and well-being of our child since it is clear that “Involutary Vessels in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen” can not be trusted not to kill or otherwise harm our child. In fact, statisically, by far the person most likely to kill our child is the “Involutary Vessel in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen.”

What if an “Involutary Vessel in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen” chooses to smoke, drink, drive at unsafe speeds, eat unhealthy foods, misses doctors appointments or otherwise engages in behavior that is a threat to the well-being of our child? Then the “Involutary Vessel in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen” should be incarcerated until our child is born whereupon she will face criminal charges for child endangerment.

Further, any discussion between the “Involutary Vessel in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen”, the “sperm donor” and/or her “potential abortionist” shall be closely monitored for any threats against our child. Finally, any medical judgment that the reproductive health of the “Involutary Vessel in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen” may be harmed by continuing a pregnancy should be prima facie evidence of a conspiracy to murder our un-born child.

Women have killed over 40 million of our children, we can not allow this to continue be turning a blind eye to the threat that “Involutary Vessels in Possession of a

By Dusty

May 20, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

whew..I’m not getting in this mess. IN THE NEWS is telling @@ NOT TO ARGUE FROM HER OWN OPINION. On whose opinion should @@ be basing her thoughts?????

Just because IN THE NEWS relies on reprints of other rejects, doesn’t mean others cannot reflect their own opinions. In fact, I thought that this was an OPINION BLOG, NOT A REPRINT BLOG.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

I always forget how limited you are @@.

You consider a few blog posts activism????

Wow, you must be a load of fun.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 20, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

ITN, you and the loony left have yet to explain how it’s murder if the baby is killed the day after birth, but not if it’s killed the day before it’s born.

If you want to go on thinking the hundreds of thousands of abortions every year are because the woman was raped or her life is in danger, you go right ahead. Facts never do seem to matter much to you or ever get in the way of your positions.

By @@

May 20, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Morningstar:

Kids, bombarded with sexual images, are too busy watching MTV to clean up their rooms. What makes you think they’re responsible enough to practice birth control?

I have an older friend, raising a 14 year old grandaughter. She put the 14 year old on birth control. Very progressive. The now 15 year old grandaughter is pregnant. Why was the grandmother raising a grandaughter you ask?

Because her daughter, the mother of the grandaughter, is enjoying a life of “free love”. She’s an adult and just can’t seem to get the birth control thing downpat. To date there are five children and none of them live with the mother. The fathers (plural) had no choice but to assume responsibility. Believe me, they weren’t enthusiastic about the prospect. Three of the five have been pawned off on grandparents.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

There is another big diference between Kennedy and Bush.

Ted Kennedy COMPLETED his miltary service to the country!

By Say It Ain't So

May 20, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

ITN, are we cherry picking from the Bible again? Either you believe what the Bible teaches us or you don’t.

Isn’t there something about being hot or cold for the Lord, if you are lukewarm he will spit you out?

I can forgive someone and still think they should be locked up in jail.

Please tell me how Kennedy sinned against me? He sinned (murdered) against society and had a complete disregard for the laws of this land.

One last question, please show where I have ever claimed to be a Christian?

By RB from Gwinnett

May 20, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

ITN, you and the loony left have yet to explain how it’s murder if the baby is killed the day after birth, but not if it’s killed the day before it’s born.

If you want to go on thinking the hundreds of thousands of abortions every year are because the woman was raped or her life is in danger, you go right ahead. Facts never do seem to matter much to you or ever get in the way of your positions.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Anybody here say @@ COULD NOT argue her opinion? Or is Dusty halucinating again?

Those two chicks are bizarre.

By Say It Ain't So

May 20, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

ITN, did you just change the subject?… again

There has yet to be any solid proof that President Bush did not finish his service.

Please do a little research, there was a fire in Kansas, in the early 70’s that destroyed many people’s military records. Mine were in the batch that were destroyed. Luckily, I still had a copy of everything I was issued when discharged or I would have been denied my GI benefits.

By @@

May 20, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS:

(((You consider a few blog posts activism????)))

And what EXACTLY are you doing here day in and day out ALL DAY LONG ITN?

I have a job working with physically and mentally challenged children. I’m out for the summer now, but in for you.

Press to activate. Cause and effect.

By IN THE NEWS

May 20, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

ON TO THE REAL ISSUES…..

I’m tired of GOP wedgies!

Even More Flip-Flops: McCain’s Shifting Positions on “Roadmap” for Cuba

AND

The master of his flip-flopping domain

By @@

May 20, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Well ITN, at least you’re not one of the paranoid left who thinks Dusty and I are the same person. You just think that RW, Andy, Buy Danish, Paul, RB and The Devil You Say are all one.

Let’s talk about paranoid conspiracy theorists, shall we?

By Midori

May 20, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

another difference between Kennedy and Bush: There IS solid evidence that Kennedy completed his service.

No research/guesswork/excuses/spin needed there.

By @@

May 20, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

(((I’m tired of GOP wedgies!)))

Translation: The conservatives here have gotten my panties in a bunch (up my crack).

By @@

May 20, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Oh damn!

I forgot about your links to the far-left “Carpetbagger Report” ITN.

Timmmmmmmberrrrrrrrrr!

By @@

May 20, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

(((No research/guesswork/excuses/spin needed there.)))

True! only assumptions which starts with A$$ and resumes with U.

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

“There has yet to be any solid proof that President Bush did not finish his service”

Does anyone else other than me find this sentence very troubling?

By Fish in a Barrel

May 20, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

“Hell, get enough people out there performing abortions and we won’t know what’s going on where and who’s doing what and how often.”

There you have it, in a nutshell. The conservative’s need to be all up in everyone else’s business.

How about you just work your darndest to make sure you don’t get an abortion and keep your nose in your own business?

Then the very minute that you conservatives begin to realize that life—all life across the globe—is as valuable a commodity as that of an unborn child here in America, then I’ll listen and probably work along side you to do something about abortion.

Until then, the conservatives’ hypocracy on abortion (bad)and war casualties (acceptable) will continue to turn the American public off. Way off.

Wow, @@ laid another egg at 2:20 -

“Kids, bombarded with sexual images, are too busy watching MTV to clean up their rooms. What makes you think they’re responsible enough to practice birth control?”

Hey here’s a bright idea: Yank the TV out of the house and be a PARENT.

Your sad story sounds like baaaaad paranting all around. Clearly, Grandma wasn’t able to instill a sense of purpose and responsibility in the daughter; looks like it’ll repeat itself in the granddaughter.

Now right there is where your compassion and energy should go, dontcha think? Why don’t you spend your summer days reaching out to this family instead of logging your nonsense here?

Or should we just cut to the chase and call you Gr@ndm@?

Say at 2:29 says: “There has yet to be any solid proof that President Bush did not finish his service.”

Right.

Just as there has yet to be any solid proof that president Bush DID finish his service.

Guess we know where the needle falls on this one.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 20, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett,

If I could explain the “looney left” perspective for a moment. They think the issue of abortion, from the perspective of the Government’s proper role in same, isn’t so much a question of morality, but one of delineating between what is of public concern and what is of private concern.

The “looney left” believes that a woman should be entrusted, with consultation from medical providers and her own moral compass (which may or may not exist) to decide whether or not to remain pregnant. The “looney left” feels that while others may question those choices and whether we would make the same choices under similar circumstances, those choices ought not be made by big Government except in very limited circumstances.

The “looney left” thinks that freedom means the freedom to that which we may disagree, even vehomently. The “looney left” feels that rather than eliminating abortion through legislation that a more effective manner of dealing with the issue is giving woman that moral compass that may inform her that making choices other than abortion is the right thing to do.

Of course, being a winger I think we should charge woman who call abortion clinics for advice with attempted murder, because my morality trumps your freedom every time. In fact, as I see things the entire purpose of Government is to make certain that other citizens live by my moral standards under the threat of imprisonment, maiming or death. You know, I’m a conservative like the Taliban, the Saudi Royal Family and the Ayatollah.

RWNJIFG

By Say It Ain't So

May 20, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

Hey barrel head, How about that old adage, innocent until proven guilty. Or does that only apply to those that support your cause?

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Godspeed to Senator Kennedy in his successful recovery and our prayers are with his family.

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{{{{By Whoa! May 20, 2008 1:27 PM Andi at 12:53: They hold hands, they kiss, sometimes they argue, and sometimes they lose their discretion and cop a feel or use some tongue.}}}}

Let’s try this from the very beginning.

God created man.

In his likeness, He then created Woman.

He looked upon His handiwork and He said, this is good.

Do I have to go through the whole story?

Anyone of you dimwit liberals figure out yet that it takes a man and a woman to create new life, using their, check this out, reproductive organs, as God intended it to be?

I guess if there was ever the ones to pervert this natural function into something so utterly bizarre as homosexuality, it would be the same sort that would drill a hole in a babies head and suck it’s brains out.

You are sick beyond all reason and proud of it.

While I do not approve of a man and a woman making out in full view of the general public, I hardly believe that this will damage a child quite the same way that two dudes sticking their tongues down each others throats will.

Keep your bedroom out of my front yard.

Duh.

By The Devil You Say

May 20, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Fish in a Barrel - You seem to think that abortion is not a big deal, and that somehow being opposed to what many people sincerely believe is murder is somehow ‘a need to be all up in other people’s business’ is really over the top.

I don’t want Barak Obama or anyone else to tell me that I must drive a certain kind of car or that I have to use a certain kind of light bulb or that I must fork over increasingly large amounts of my tax money to support social programs that I don’t believe should be handled by the federal government. I don’t believe that I should be forced to pay into a social security program that has a 1% return on investment. I should not have to pay into a medicare program when I can get better private insurance.

Yes I do think that social conservatives sometimes go much too far, but abortion is a different issue altogether. And political liberals also go much too far, in so many more ways than any true conservatives ever dreamed.

By Fish in a Barrel

May 20, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

“innocent until proven guilty”

Yep, Say, just the litmus test I’m looking for in a lying, arrest-supressing dry-drunk of a president.

Too bad the sad frat rat couldn’t prove his innocence, either.

By Morningstar

May 20, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

By Right-wing nut job in full glory May 20, 2008 2:15 PM The duty of the guardian ad litem would be to police the activities of the “Involutary Vessel in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen” to ensure the safety and well-being of our child since it is clear that “Involutary Vessels in Possession of an Un-Born American Citizen” can not be trusted not to kill or otherwise harm our child. In fact, statisically, by far the person

Hey RWNJ, you’ve got the rite idea…just don’t forget to throw the mother and baby out on the streets to starve (or worse), if she has inadequate means to care for her infant. Oh yeah, and don’t forget to build those prisons to house all those little unwanted children who grow up to be criminals. After all, we must remember that “Life begins at conception, but ends at birth.” There’s only ONE way to kill babies, and that’s abortion!!! If the six year old child has no food, it’s his/her stupid fault!!!!

By Bosch

May 20, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

AJC Management,

WE created God in OUR own image. Not the other way around.

The Hebrew god was conceived of in human form like the pagan gods before it.

By W stands for worst

May 20, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Ah yes the gay marriage debate. Oh yeah it will destroy our society if homosexuals are allowed to marry…NOT.. here is my tidbit on it. I used to live in S.FLA, a guy i worked with who was gay died suddenly. He had made his partner the beneficiary to his benefits which was his right to do. Now his parents who were not happy with his lifestyle went to a lawyer and had that overturned. Point is it was his choice who he wanted to have his money not his parents. If you have a long term relationship with someone and want them to have the property you shared after your are gone then there is no law making sure that process will proceed as you wish…

By Morningstar

May 20, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

By IN THE NEWS May 20, 2008 1:51 PM Actually there would be no need for abortion if we could just surgically implant the “sperm stopper 2000” (a cork) into the vas deferens of every male child born. Then we could have them removed as part of the wedding ceremony

By @@ May 20, 2008 2:20 PM What makes you think they’re responsible enough to practice birth control?

I agree there’s entirely too many children either neglected in the home, or given away to grandparents. Usually (not always) parents who are irresponsible raise unresponsible children. I too know of a couple situations where the child had a very good home and still turned out to be ‘rotten to the core.’ IMHO, at some point we all must assume personal responsibility. Parents who permit children to digest a steady diet of MTV, have no one to blame but themselves.

Regardless of education, IMHO the irresponsible will always be with us. I still don’t believe in abandoning children at birth. No child in this country should go to bed hungry, or be deprived of a decent education and the opportunity to succeed. I don’t believe anyone who would deprive a child, simply because the parents are unfit, can call themselves a decent person.

Ha! Ha! Best advise I’ve seen or heard all day!!!

By Midori

May 20, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

yeah, @@ is clucking and laying eggs all over the place. must be her “time of the month”.

By @@

May 20, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

(((The conservative’s need to be all up in everyone else’s business.)))

Only if and when they’re breaking the law by performing late-term abortions.

(((Hey here’s a bright idea: Yank the TV out of the house and be a PARENT.)))

That’s what Obama proposed but I don’t know how he’ll swing it unless he assumes office as a dictator.

(((Your sad story sounds like baaaaad paranting all around. Clearly, Grandma wasn’t able to instill a sense of purpose and responsibility in the daughter; looks like it’ll repeat itself in the granddaughter.)))

I know, it’s called parents instilling self-respect, not the government’s respect for wrongdoing.

(((Now right there is where your compassion and energy should go, dontcha think?)))

Well Stinky Fish in a Barrel??? there’s no talking to her. Mine was the advice of tough love for tough consequences. It was a waste of time BUT…

I act as a liaison between my church congregation and the ChildTech Program (daycare so that teenage mothers can get their HS diploma.) Our church facilities are given free of charge and we, as a congregation give what financial assistance we can.

Howz that for compassion? Does it meet with your approval or does “the church” thingy get in the way?

We don’t preach to ‘em. We’re not allowed under the separation clause.

I will say, that although the program’s guidelines prohibit the girls from continuing in the program if there’s a subsequent pregnancy, I haven’t seen evidence where they adhere to their own policies. I think that has something to do with losing government funding.

By Goldie

May 20, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Any true “conservative” in the GOP (Grumpy Old People) understands the role of diplomacy when dealing with our enemies — so I’m thinking about 75% of the GOP today are extremists, not conservatives… WATCH this video:

A clip of former Secretary of State James Baker has been making the rounds recently, as a result of the current ‘appeasement’ debate between John McCain and Barack Obama. Unfortunately for McCain, Baker agrees with Obama.

By Whoa!

May 20, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Hey Andi:

Sure, let’s try this from the beginning.

Once upon a time, there was a simplistic fable put forth so that the people might begin to get a sense of self and identity. This particular belief system was told and re-told, passed down for centuries, corrupted by the tellers of said fable.

But let’s not let truth get in the way of a good story.

Anyway, Man and Woman had sex; had children. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

Surprisingly (but not to God), every so often one of those offspring exited the womb wired to be attracted to the same sex. This happened not only in the human world, but in the animal kingdom as well. And God said this is good, after all, God doesn’t make junk.

However, some of the other offspring, for whatever reason, didn’t like all of God’s creation. So they decided that it would be better for the same-sex attracted ones to be marginalized to shadows and lies, confounding God and his Earthly son Jesus, who (according to the continuing fable) loved all the little children.

So on continues to this day other offspring, still with their curious mixture of fear and lust for the same-sex attracted children.

The End.

Andi, you must be old. The younger the generation, the less baggage they have with hetero and/or homo behavior. Is this why you are so afraid? Because you know that once your generation of dinosaurs has died off that hetero/homo behavior will be no big deal?

Kids should, I repeat, never be exposed to something not age-appropriate. You and the rest in your fossil class don’t understand that kids need love, truth and guidance. They will make a big deal out of the things that you make a big deal out of.

By the way, Gladys Kravitz, if you’re looking out your front blinds one day, hoping to catch a gay couple lose their minds and have sex in your front yard, then you need to call the police and have them arrested. Same as you would do for a straight couple, no?

By Goldie

May 20, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

{{or that I have to use a certain kind of light bulb or that I must fork over increasingly large amounts of my tax money to support social programs that I don’t believe should be handled by the federal government.}}

The Devil @ 3:18 — you must have made up your mind many years ago to not participate in a functioning society. So it’s all about your own personal desires and needs, and screw everyone else — we don’t necessarily get to pick and choose where our tax dollars are spent by the Feds. If I had my choice about it, my taxes would not go to support the illegal wars and foreign occupations that YOUR PARTY is so in favor of!

By AmVet

May 20, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Daniel, I saw that article about Congressman Vito.

He apparently mastered the art of “creative campaign spending” under the watchful eye of another cheating, lying dipst!ck - Rudy.

How stupid can these conservatives get?

The scumbag cheats on his wife and then gets the mistress to bail him out after a DUI!

Yet ANOTHER embarrassment for the “family values” Republicans!

How many is this in the past eight years?

It has got to be in the dozens.

And it turns out he has a lesbian sister and actually shuns her and will attend no gatherings where her and her partner are there.

How did it come to be that the f&cked up beyond repair lunatic fringe of a major political party became the very poster children for the GOP?

These no talent arseclowns are all going to not learn again the hard way this November.

And I can hardly wait for the well-deserved massacre…

By Morningstar

May 20, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

OH MY GOODNESS!!!! Don’t know what happened with my 3:47 PM. That last sentence was my response to In The News suggestion at 1:51 PM. Those implants are a GREAT idea! Course some nut would probably say it’s an evil ‘sin.’ Keep those unwanted babies coming, so we can throw em’ out on the streets!!!

By Aboard The Kkkrazy MkkkKKKain Train

May 20, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

That poor worthless POS MkkkKKKain - 6 years in the Hanoi Hilton, 8 years kissing W’s a*ss, no wonder the mofo is kkkrazy!

By AmVet

May 20, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Gladys Kravitz!

Now there’s a blast from the past!

I swear to (your favorite mythology here), that some of these faux conservatives have posters of Fred McMurray on the wall!

I’ve been thinking of this modern Republican Party and why they are so hopelessly adrift these days.

As we all know they have, for thirty years, tried desperately to convince themselves and anybody else who would listen that they are the TRUE conservatives.

Though many of us knew decades ago, this of course, now has been WIDELY demonstrated to be utter fabricated rubbish.

But what exactly is this ideology that in so many ways is actually the very antithesis of conservatism?

They have some unifying principles to be sure - the dismissal and even hatred, in some cases, for all things liberal, academic, secular, scientific and progressive.

And then it hit me!

They are adamantly opposed to progress.

The conventional term for this is reactionary: vehemently, often fanatically opposing progress or reform.

Synonyms: die-hard, mossbacked, ultraconservative

But that does not really connect with the intellectually challenged among them.

A better term is anti-progressive. But that too lacks a certain je ne sais quoi.

I think the accurate term for the neo-con infested GOP is the Backwards Party.

They still live in a mindset of Reagan, if not Harding and prohibition.

And this, my friends, explains the tortuous unhappy existence they endure today…

By @@

May 20, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

(((yeah, @@ is clucking and laying eggs all over the place. must be her “time of the month”.)))

and the parrot squawks under the pressure of having to lay her fragile bomb.

By AJC Management

May 20, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch May 20, 2008 3:39 PM AJC Management, WE created God in OUR own image. Not the other way around.}}}}

Bosch: You been testing your gin theory a little early today?

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{{{{By W stands for worst May 20, 2008 3:47 PM If you have a long term relationship with someone and want them to have the property you shared after your are gone then there is no law making sure that process will proceed as you wish…}}}}

It’s called a Power of Attorney and a will, you moron.

Geez.

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{{{{By Morningstar May 20, 2008 3:47 PM No child in this country should go to bed hungry, or be deprived of a decent education and the opportunity to succeed.}}}}

So we should slaughter the child instead, eh?

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{{{{By Whoa! May 20, 2008 3:57 PM Surprisingly (but not to God), every so often one of those offspring exited the womb wired to be attracted to the same sex.}}}}

Prove it.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 20, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Morningstar,

Irrespective of what my political leanings may be, the issue of ‘resources’ is an insufficient reason to justify the either right to choose or the exercise thereof. Those who argue that abortion is in some sense either justified or serves a public good by conserving limited resources, seriously miss the point and frankly put those who oppose legal abortion in a deserved place of moral superiority. Further, the fact that the wingers could care less about the well-being of poor children is largely irrelevant since the liberally constructed welfare state can and will serve the basic needs of children, wanted or otherwise. To argue that they’d be better off dead, is quite honestly a disgusting argument.

What should be recognized is that there is a point at which the Government can not cross into our private lives and that is the place to fight the choice argument. Any moral or policy justification is fighting on the anti-choice turf and frankly that side will win every time.

The good sense of the American people is, by and large, that abortion, while regrettable, simply isn’t a place for Government intervention expect in limited circumstances. Most Americans do not believe that because abortion should be legal does not mean that such a choice is “right.”

The extreme left and right seem to forget this truth with one side arguing the morally corrupt position that abortion is somehow a ‘good thing’ and those on the other who want Government to involve itself in personal choices.

Most Americans reasonably believe that the right answer is somewhere in between.

I don’t think that the choice argument should come down to choosing between a Government like the Taliban or one like China. On the contrary the debate should focus on the proper role of Government in our lives and whether and how Government should be involved in reproductive choice. In other words the argument should be an American one, not a battle of religious idealogues vs. God-less Socialists.

Just my 2 cents.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 20, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Morningstar,

Irrespective of what my political leanings may be, the issue of ‘resources’ is an insufficient reason to justify the either right to choose or the exercise thereof. Those who argue that abortion is in some sense either justified or serves a public good by conserving limited resources, seriously miss the point and frankly put those who oppose legal abortion in a deserved place of moral superiority. Further, the fact that the wingers could care less about the well-being of poor children is largely irrelevant since the liberally constructed welfare state can and will serve the basic needs of children, wanted or otherwise. To argue that they’d be better off dead, is quite honestly a disgusting argument.

What should be recognized is that there is a point at which the Government can not cross into our private lives and that is the place to fight the choice argument. Any moral or policy justification is fighting on the anti-choice turf and frankly that side will win every time.

The good sense of the American people is, by and large, that abortion, while regrettable, simply isn’t a place for Government intervention expect in limited circumstances. Most Americans do not believe that because abortion should be legal does not mean that such a choice is “right.”

The extreme left and right seem to forget this truth with one side arguing the morally corrupt position that abortion is somehow a ‘good thing’ and those on the other who want Government to involve itself in personal choices.

Most Americans reasonably believe that the right answer is somewhere in between.

I don’t think that the choice argument should come down to choosing between a Government like the Taliban or one like China. On the contrary the debate should focus on the proper role of Government in our lives and whether and how Government should be involved in reproductive choice. In other words the argument should be an American one, not a battle of religious idealogues vs. God-less Socialists.

Just my 2 cents.

By Daniel

May 20, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

AmVet: Those are good questions. My grandfather used to refer to them as “Holier than thou, they’re so crooked you’ll have to screw’em into the ground when they die.”

Whenever a politician starts parading his religion, I run for cover. They feed the dumbbells abortion, gays and gun control and they lap it up. We wind up with “Toilet Bowl” Craig, the “page boy hugger Foley” Vito and the “Vagina Monologue” and on and on. I will be happy when we get through this.

Hopefully, we are the wiser for it. Frankly, it is hard for me to imagine Americans are really that stupid. No one is “For” abortion. everyone I know is against terminating a pregnancy. The point isn’t abortion. The point is whether we should criminalize it. The right-wing wants to make church law our law. I know. I know. It’ really not pure stupidity. It’s a blending of religious faith with hopelessness and despair. If these people had any value in their lives they would leave us alone.

Remember your history? We’re repeating it all over again. They persecuted Galileo Galilei for heresy. He tried to explain the earth was not the center of the universe. Fancy that!

By @@

May 20, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

(((I swear to (your favorite mythology here), that some of these faux conservatives have posters of Fred McMurray on the wall!)))

This coming from a veteran of the VietNam era.

So eager to be with the groovy and hip - “the in-crowd”.

Tell me AmVet, when you’re out and about “making the scene” do you wear “hotpants”? is your shirt/blouse opened to just above your navel? gold chains? knit bellbottoms?

Tie died?

How does that work with your gnashing dentures?

By Andiduh's Dilemma

May 20, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

S/he finds homosexuality disgusting, yet highly arousing!

Poor gal!

By W stands for worst

May 20, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Andy the idiot,

Like all other topics you have shown your ignorance again. Yep you can have a will and a power of attorney and it does you no good. The law accepts the closest living relative when you are not married. So if you are gay and you have a will or power of attorney and your mother or dad contests it they win… IDIOT

By Midori

May 20, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

looks like @@ is trying to “out-Andy” Andy.

Cluck, cluck.

By Whoa!

May 20, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Wull, hello Andi!

Where have you been? Peeping out your blinds? Are all your neighbors behaving themselves? Are you letting Abner nap unfettered?

You ask: “Prove it.”

OK, I’ll give you all the proof you need, right here, right now: ME.

I’d be apt to declare myself as homo as you might declare yourself hetero, but I’d really need something more reliably hetero than you…perhaps Amvet or RW.

Or the Devil. Woops, cancel that.

Anyway, you get the picture.

By Daniel

May 20, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Nut-Job:

I get the opportunistic political side of it. Abramoff referred to those who support the republican party as “troglodytes and morons”. Jack, before he went to jail, understood the basic political maxim: “If they want pablum, give them pablum”.

I am upset with the church for dragging a moral and religious question into the political arena.

You and I know if abortion is criminalized, only the rich will get safe abortions. After all, abortion has been around for centuries.

Religious zealotry has been around fr centuries, too. These people would burn us at the stake, in a heartbeat.

By AJC Management

May 20, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Daniel May 20, 2008 4:35 PM The right-wing wants to make church law our law.}}}}

To you dimwits, I offer the Declaration Of Independence, duh:

{{{{We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.}}}}

Uh, so who do you libs think the Creator would be?

The TV set?

~~~~~

{{{{By W stands for worst May 20, 2008 4:45 PM So if you are gay and you have a will or power of attorney and your mother or dad contests it they win… IDIOT}}}}

Look, homey, you’re gonna have to cut me some slack here, I don’t have a gay partner so I’m like not up to speed on the matters of, well, whatever.

And besides, I still think I’m right, we’re talking Power of Attorney done properly, maybe the offspring could challenge but, wait a minute, gays don’t have offspring.

Never mind.

~~~~~

{{{{By Whoa! May 20, 2008 4:51 PM I’d be apt to declare myself as homo as you might declare yourself hetero, but I’d really need something more reliably hetero than you…perhaps Amvet or RW.}}}}

I don’t have to “declare” myself anything, freak, I know what I am, I’m not the dumbas-s here. That would be you.

There ain’t no plan with no man.

Geez.

By Daniel

May 20, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

RW: Murdock’s piece is a scream. But, not so fast! All the behavior is bad. Craig, Foley, Abramoff, Haggard, Libby, Vickers, Fossella, (The guy from Pennsylvania), Cunningham, Ney, Delay, Scanlon, are all politicians who said they were better than Studds and Frank. They claimed the moral high ground.

A crook is a crook. Jefferson is as rotten as any of them. Thank God for the Department of Justice.

By truthman

May 20, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

Whiny FAUX Noise anchor mad because Keith Olbermann calls anchor’s kid “prefectly ready to become a cog in the Rupert Murdoch misinformation media monolith.”

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Fox_FriendshostattacksOlbermann_0520.html

The kid’s a partisan. And when he asks leading questions of his fellow Villanova students designed to denigrate our next President (Obama), his little, chirping FAUX Noise mouthpiece father can’t take his own BS heat.

Mendacity!!

Tough doo-doo, FAUX Noisemaker!!

By RW-(the original)

May 20, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Yes Daniel, a crook is indeed a crook. So what, pray tell, has Delay been convicted of?

By AmVet

May 20, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

@@, you are one angry, pathetic little screw up, I’ll give you that.

And its both obvious and laughable that it was YOU, of all the people here, who I struck a big-time nerve with regarding the observation about you very unhappy Backwards Party types.

Obsess much boobs?

Don’t fret, just get out your Ozzie and Harriet tapes!

Boobalot, just follow your hero {{{Andy’s}}} lead. He has, to his credit, changed his ways as regards attacking the other bloggers here.

But YOU just don’t ever learn, no matter how many times you have been warned, not to f&ck with individuals here, especially your betters, for no good reason and always unprovoked.

You are a half-wit boobs and you cannot possibly win when you attempt to engage in a battle of wits with a non neo-con.

And if you had an IQ over 100 you’d realize jut how utterly stupid, unoriginal, witless, and probably hypocritical (knowing you) your entire last post is.

Do something “constructive” like trying to get abortions outlawed or teaching your most unfortunate children to save themselves for marriage, you outdated silly hag.

Now go away or I will taunt you a second time…

By Daniel

May 20, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

RW: Delay is under indictment in Texas. He had that scam where he funelled millions to the Texas Republicn Party to subvert the law. He chose not to run for re-election. There are a lot more, I just can’t think of all of them right now.

You cn have your right-wing, you can have your left-wing; but a crook is a crook. Are the American people supposed to take comfort because a republican, instead of a democrat is buggering our kids?, or stealing from the Treasury?

The problem with people like you is that you feel good when you’re getting screwed by a republican.

By Whoa!

May 20, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

“…so I’m like not up to speed on the matters of, well, whatever.”

Truer words were never spoken, Andi!

Case in point:

“wait a minute, gays don’t have offspring.”

Can you spell s-t-u-p-i-d? Good boy. Marinate in your ignorance, Andi, marinate in it.

On we go…

“I don’t have to “declare” myself anything, freak, I know what I am, I’m not the dumbas-s here. That would be you.”

Hands up, folks…who’s in agreement…anyone? Anyone at all?

(crickets chirping)

And our finale:

“There ain’t no plan with no man.”

THANK YOU, ANDI DUH SIR, THANK YOU.

You’ve just contributed our Republican Nonsensical Slogan of the Day!

Your prize? The first ever Larry Craig Honorary gold-plated d!ldo, engraved with your initials.

Have fun, Andi, have fun.

By @@

May 20, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

Good grief AmVet! It was a joke. Why so sensitive?

Moving on…

Oh lookee, Obama is being chivalrous yet again. This time it’s for Hillary. How condescending does this guy get? He waits until he’s close to sewing up the nomination before he acknowledges the media’s sexist attacks? Did Hillary ask for his “sympathy”? NO!

(((Sen. Barack Obama said today that he agrees with Sen. Hillary Clinton that she has faced some sexism in the media coverage of her campaign.)))

(((“No doubt there are certain burdens for Sen. Clinton running as a formidable but first-time front-runner as a woman in the same way I’ve got to deal with some issues as an African-American,” Obama told ABC’s Jake Tapper.)))

I can see how Obama could empathize, what with all the “high-pitched whining” he’s been doin’ lately. How many ways does this guy want to have it? He’s black, he’s offended, he’s strong, he’s sensitive, he’s whatever the occasion calls for. Just like the good reverend said…he’s a politician first and always.

(((“What I said was, I would meet with our adversaries, including Iran, including Venezuela, including Cuba, including North Korea, without preconditions, but that does not mean without preparation. There’s a huge difference,” Obama said.)))

Oh! Please tell us what that difference is Senator Obama.

(((“There are a whole series of steps that need to be taken before you would have a presidential meeting, but that has to be setting an agenda, and faith and having a constructive conversation. It doesn’t mean you expect the other side to agree to every item on your list.)))

So I’ve gotta wonder, which refusals would Obama be willing to accept from Ahmadenijad?

Full of it….OBAMA IS FULL OF IT!

“IT” being himself.

By AmVet

May 20, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Daniel, the ever growing list of repulsive “family values” Republicans who get caught with their hands in the cookie jar is just like the Energizer Bunny, it just goes on and on and on and on.

And I have theory about why.

While the rest of modern western civilization was living healthy balanced lives, the “conservatives” were repressing all thoughts they deemed to be “deviant”. You know, drinking beer, enjoying sex, questioning incompetent authority, experimenting with psychotropics in our youths, etc… And their list is in some cases VERY, VERY long.

Just go to church and drink tea.

Well that works for awhile and then guess what?

These stifled prudes get SO hung up, SO miserable, SO psychotic that they virtually explode in disgusting behaviors. Think Jimmy Swaggart ad nauseum.

They would all be much more contented people if they would get rid of their stilted mythology, get laid and have a cocktail from time to time. Without feeling guilty about it!

Maybe then they wouldn’t obsess about telling other people how to live their lives when their own are such a train wreck…

By RW-(the original)

May 20, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

The question remains. What has Delay been convicted of? You do understand the word “convicted” don’t you?

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Aahhh, yes, McBushie wants money:

{{{{Never before have dhimmokrats, liberal special interest groups, labor unions and unregulated “527” soft money groups come together with so much money and so much determination toward one purpose; defeating Republicans.}}}}

And here I thought you were trying to defeat us too.

{{{{Mr. Management, as someone who has done so much for our party, can we continue to count on your support at this very important time?}}}}

What’s this “we” sh!t?

You got a mouse in your pocket?

{{{{Your gift will be used for promoting the Republican agenda.}}}}

Dear John: 40 paragraphs of shameless pleading for my money and not one single mention of Conservatism to be found. This coupled with the fact that the Conservative coalition in Congress has become as spineless as a bowl of jello pudding, leads me to believe that I might just want to save my money so that I will be able to afford all of the taxes that you closet pinkos will be levying against me as soon as you get the opportunity.

So watch as I take the 2400 bucks you need so “desperately” and stick it in the cookie jar, bwa.

Alas, as much as I despise self abuse, I will probably be voting for you, even though I know I will hate myself for years to come for it.

Let’s just call it the least that I can do, shall we?

By AmVet

May 20, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

@@, ooops.

Open mouth firmly insert both feet.

Sometimes it is hard to tell when I am but the butt of a joke here.

And I just had to expose Dusty as a liar for some of her most egregious and fallacious comments about me over at Wooten’s.

My most humble apologies.

I’m an idiot…

By Paul

May 20, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

getalife

Amen. Regardless of political differences, that’s an unfortunate condition.

Had a friend call with the same diagnosis. He said the probabilities were six months, two years if he was lucky. We chatted last month. It’s been six years.

Never give up -

Bosch 2:58

I’m regularly amused by those who say “support the troops, finest military, honor and duty etc etc etc” then accuse numerous high-ranking officers of dereliction, making false official statements, etc regarding Pres Bush’s military service (if he was AWOL, didn’t complete his service, etc - then those who certified he was okay are….?).

Goldie 3:48

I was driving home, listening to NPR interview a guy who’d written a book highly critical of the Bush Administration. He listed off a litany of complaints (Iraq, response to Congressional subpoenas, FISA, etc etc), quite colorful, and I thought “hmmm, wonder if he’s on the AJC blog?” Turned out, he’s a big-time conservative who thinks the Administration is anything but conservative!

Poor Administration. Seems Everybody’s mad at them.

Truthman 5:21

Obama’s appeared on Fox, uh, FAUX. So do we now treat everything he says as untrue? I seem to recall that argument being made on this forum - anything on FAUX is a lie, Dems who appear on it aren’t really Democrats, etc etc etc.

By Morningstar

May 20, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

By AJC Management May 20, 2008 4:34 PM | {{{{By Morningstar May 20, 2008 3:47 PM No child in this country should go to bed hungry, or be deprived of a decent education and the opportunity to succeed.}}}}So we should slaughter the child instead, eh?

Ah Hummm…..I didn’t say that now did I? My contentions are that abortions should be performed in rare situations, but I DO NOT approve of legislation dictating who woulda, shoulda. If the child is born and dies from malnutrition, or fails to thrive due to other neglect, you don’t call this murder? I do! It’s nothing but murder!!! An unnecessary war that takes thousands of deaths is not slaughter? Absolutely it is nothing but slaughter.

My contentions are that with proper education and opportunities available (jobs come to mind), there will be a minimum of abortions. For those that elect to bring unwanted and unloved children into the world, we as a society should ensure they are cared for. Think I mentioned earlier, there are MANY ways to kill babies.

By RW-(the original)

May 20, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC-M,

I got that same letter from McLiberal and sent him a similar response in his postage paid return envelope.

By RW-(the original)

May 20, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

{{{{He went on to argue that Iran spends “one-one hundredth of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn’t stand a chance. And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen.”-Barry Obambi}}}}}

{{{{{“Let me be absolutely clear,” said one candidate the next day in response: “Iran is a grave threat.” That quote comes from … Barack Obama.}}}}}

When do we get the cartoon where Obambi debates himself?

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Morningstar May 20, 2008 6:10 PM If the child is born and dies from malnutrition, or fails to thrive due to other neglect, you don’t call this murder?}}}}

Aahhh, yes, the basic premise of liberalism in action, take a minor issue and solve it with some idiotic feel good notion and in the process slaughter millions of innocent bystanders.

But hey, we kept a child from starving!

And check this out, show us one child that has starved to death in the United States, I dare you.

It’s all a bunch of BS, every last little bit of liberalism, look at these weirdos and their argument for gay marriage:

“Well, Larry Craig is a Godless heathen sodomite sicko, so why can’t the whole country be that way?”

Why don’t we just “fix” Larry Craig and all the other deviants instead of destroying this great nation?

Duh.

By N-GA

May 20, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Just an interesting observation: In many states it would have been, just a few short years ago, illegal for Barack Obama’s parents to marry. In most of those same states, they want to make gay marriage illegal.

At least there is precedent for their bigotry!

By Barack Obama

May 20, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Now friends, it has been said that I am “full of it”.

That’s OK, that’s OK. I think we all know where that kind of old-style politics comes from. And it’s to be expected from those who are not full;

From those who are in fact empty;

From those who know what it feels like—-that kind of hollowness, that kind of bitterness.

And that is why I’m proud to be full, because I want those people—-and all the American People—-to be FULL again.

To be FILLED with the hope of change away from hopelessness;

FILLED with the deep conviction that somehow, in some way, things must change; FILLED…

With those things which are not butter.

Fellow Americans, I may be FULL of a lot of things, but butter isn’t one of them!

I am not, nor will I ever be, FULL OF BUTTER!

Thank you.

[APLAUSE]

By Asa Candler

May 20, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Baracka-Cola: It’s the Real Thing

By @@

May 20, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

I lost a very dear friend to brain cancer. I have another friend who has survived.

Here’s hoping that “The Lion” continues to roar. Just in case things don’t go as I hope, he must make amends now…

Massachusetts voters picked Hillary over Obama.

Ted does enjoy mentoring the young upstarts though. Kerry is his favorite lackey. Obama is in the wings…waiting.

Ted only has one use for women, and we all know…..

By Polk Salad Annie

May 20, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

Got real dark quick. Come up a storm a brewin. The cats no where to be seen. The dog neither. Pa said we best git in the cellar, but I love the rain and I wanna watch.

By Paul

May 20, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

A followup from last night - you referenced Obama’s remark about food, SUVs and air conditioning.

I heard a number of people take it as “he can’t tell me what to do.” Others as “this is the socialist government he wants to impose.”

I took it differently - more in line with how we change how the world sees us. Yes, we are better off than most. Many want what we have. But many see us as not just wasteful, but complaining when the waste becomes a bit uncomfortable.

It’s one thing to drive vehicles that won’t even fit on many roads in other countries. We aren’t other countries. But when the choice we make becomes more expensive, others see our solution as: ask the producers to produce more so gas won’t cost so much.

When two thirds of American adults are overweight, when we toss about a fourth of our food without eating it (not difficult to do with the portion sizes in restaurants) and then people complain, loudly, when food prices increase… well, you can see how people in other countries can view it as “I want more excess but I want it cheaper.”

The air conditioning comment - always amazing how people want 72 in summer but 78 in winter - but I digress. I think it’s more of an attitude - keep the house at that temp all the time - even when no one’s home. Or in houses with several systems - cooling the part no one’s in most of the day. It’s just that attitude of the right to waste.

I think he was saying America could do a lot for its image if Americans came across more as stewards of resources that are now more connected with people in other countries.

Anyhow, that’s how I took it -

By AJC/DNC Management

May 20, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

Here’s one calamity the left dearly wants to impose on us:

{{{{Last year, for instance, saw a drop in the global average temperature of nearly 0.7 degrees C (the largest single-year movement up or down since global temperature averages have been calculated). Despite advanced predictions that 2007 would be the warmest year on record, made by such UN associates as Britain’s Hadley Centre, a government climate research agency, 2007 was the coolest year since at least 1993.}}}}

{{{{According to the U. S. National Climatic Data Center, the average temperature of the global land surface in January 2008 was below the 20th-Century mean for the first time since 1982.}}}}

{{{{Also in January, Southern Hemisphere sea ice coverage was at its greatest summer level (January is summer in the Southern Hemisphere) in the past 30 years.}}}}

{{{{Neither the 3,000 temperature buoys that float throughout the world’s oceans nor the eight NASA satellites that float above our atmosphere have recorded appreciable warming in the past six to eight years.}}}}

{{{{Even Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the IPCC, reluctantly admitted to Reuters in January that there has been no warming so far in the 21st Century.}}}}

Starving children, fragile bird eggs, “global warming.”

No hoaxes for me, thanks.

By @@

May 20, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

O.K., so let’s start with Obama’s oft used phrase…”What I said was”. Imagine a meeting between Ahmadenijad and President Thpppbbbtt Obama.

Ahmadenijad: President Obama, we will continue our quest for nuclear power.

President Obama: That is unacceptable!

The very next day in the Iranian press the headlines read…..

“The President of the U.S. Will Not ‘ACCEPT’ Iran’s Pursuit of Nuclear Energy”

Ahmadenijad gives one of his public rants against the U.S. Goes something like this…

“Who in the he// does Obama think he is? I will tell you, my people! HE IS THE LEADER OF THE GREAT SATAN, The U.S of A. The Iranian people must be free from the Imperialistic attitude of President Obama’s arrogance.

Next day Obama calls Ahmadenijad…

“That’s not what I said Mahmoud, and you know it.” “What I said was, ah… you can, um…pursue your nuclear, err…energy, just don’t consider, for yourself, ‘DA BOMB.”

“I’M ‘DA BOMB!!! You may proceed with my blessings. I just wanna be loved, admired, respected here and around the world.”

By Paul

May 20, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Saw my earlier response to your 6:27 didn’t make it through.

So now those laws are no more. Due largely to activist courts. Or was it strict constructionist courts. Or both?

And hopefully it won’t take much longer for this to become yesterday’s issue.

As that wonderful minister I’ve reference said, speaking on another subject: If you don’t like that word (in this case, gay marriage), pick another. Just stay with the concept.

Too much hang-up over words. Not enough attention to the real issue.

By N-GA

May 20, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I’m closing the evening with a 1998 Chateau Figeac St. Emilion.

cheers!

By RW-(the original)

May 20, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Maybe Obama meant you should drink Ripple so the rest of the world wouldn’t hate us.

What would really be nice would be for politicians (most Democrats and some Republicans) to talk about the good we do around the world and how if they emulate us they too can become successful instead of tearing us down and telling the world how awful we are all the time.

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