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By Mike Luckovich | Friday, May 16, 2008, 07:18 AM

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By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

dhimokrats want to “help” the poor:

{{{{“[L]et me tell you what’s heading down the tracks,” Sessions said to BMI on May 14. “In a few weeks, we expect that the cap-and-trade legislation that’s been voted out of Sen. Barbara Boxer’s (D-Calif.) Environment and Public Works Committee will be on the floor and according to the Environmental Protection Agency it will increase gas prices by $1.50.}}}}

Double whatever the EPA says, we are looking at 7.00 a gallon gasoline as soon as the libs get control of the government.

Got bicycle?

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GFY, Kalifornia (good for you.)

You deserve it.

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{{{{Pelosi: Bush comments ‘beneath the dignity of the office’}}}}

{{{{President Bush’s comparison of any Democrat to Nazi appeasers is both offensive and outrageous.-Bruno (I thought she was dead?)}}}}

{{{{Biden: Bush’s comments were ‘b******’}}}}

{{{{In a separate statement, Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) said that Bush “is still playing the disgusting and dangerous political game.}}}}

{{{{Senate Majority Leader Hairy Reed (D-Nev.) also weighed in. “Not surprisingly, the engineer of the worst foreign policy in our nation’s history has fired yet another reckless and reprehensible round,”}}}}

A little touchy, aren’t we?

Bushie must have hit awfully close to home.

What’s the matter, don’t you libs trust your lightweight to stand on his own with his own words?

I can’t blame you.

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{{{{The farm bill includes a $10.3 billion increase in spending on nutrition programs, including food stamps, that supporters called “historic,” -Urinal}}}}

Be assured, 3 months from now some harpy liberals will chirp in that the “food stamp program has expanded under Bushie!”

Paying for their propaganda with your tax dollars.

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Can’t you just sense the longing the Urinal has to get the fighting started back up:

{{{{A fragile cease-fire between Shiite politicians and followers of anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr in Baghdad’s Sadr City district came under renewed strain. Overnight and early morning clashes between U.S.-backed Iraqi forces and militiamen loyal to al-Sadr left eight men killed and 19 wounded.-Urinal}}}}

The only tension

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

Ooops:

Can’t you just sense the longing the Urinal has to get the fighting started back up:

{{{{A fragile cease-fire between Shiite politicians and followers of anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr in Baghdad’s Sadr City district came under renewed strain. Overnight and early morning clashes between U.S.-backed Iraqi forces and militiamen loyal to al-Sadr left eight men killed and 19 wounded.-Urinal}}}}

The only tension around here is in the pinko media wormholes where they are all nervous that this war is practically over.

To this I say; Good.

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

[RW - WILL YOU FOLLOW YOUR MASTERS OR DO YOU HATE THE TROOPS?] (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/14/ultimate-sacrifice-bush-quit-golf-for-the-troops/)

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

I realize that this comes from another opinion piece, but it is sooo true:

Conservation reduces Fulton County water use by 30 percent. So rates will be increased by 15 percent. Classic monopoly, which is why most liberals would nationalize the oil companies. Take the profits for “social good” and tax up the price to force people out of the hated SUVs.

This is exactly what has happened in Europe. Norway, one of the world’s largest oil producers, also has a state oil monopoly. Gas prices are some of the highest in the world.

You folks complain about too much oil consumption and then start screaming about the price of oil. Please make up your mind.

As for the city of Atlanta, this is practically criminal. People have done everything they can to reduce water consumption, and yet the incompetents who gave us a $140 million deficit are finding new ways to stick it to the taxpayers - with a new tax diguised as a fee. My solution - reduce my water consumption by 15% more to negate any gain.

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

Petraeus Ready To Talk To Iran Again

APPEASER????

By Change We Cannot Believe In

May 16, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

Hey, is that curious george? That’s racist!

By gmk

May 16, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

<<>>

Sir, you really, really, really should try to get a life. What a truly sad existence you have!! To think of all the time you’ve spent here on this blog…wow!…I don’t think Guinness has a record for most entries on a cartoonist’s blog…suggest you consider submitting your “body of work” to Guinness so at least there could be SOME benefit from all that time spent. You are clearly not making or leaving an otherwise positive impact on the world. Have a good day; this will be my first and last entry as I a job that actually pays money

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

T Boone Pickens, a man who knows what he is talking about:

{{{{T. BOONE PICKENS: According to the crude oil report, as of today [March 12] we have imported crude oil at the cost for $1.4 billion for the week. Multiply 52 weeks times $1.4 billion. You’ll get right at $600 billion a year you’re paying for imported crude oil. We can’t keep doing that. It’s the greatest transfer of wealth ever recorded in the history of the world.}}}}

{{{{ If I were the United States, it would be very disturbing to me to see anybody thinking about transporting any oil from North America to Asia. We let ourselves down if we don’t capture that. Now you’ve got the Democrats talking about taxing it all and they have got the Canadians stirred up [on NAFTA] that they’re going to change that. Canadians don’t like to hear that type of conversation and the people of the United States who are doing the talking about it don’t understand energy, because the last thing you’d want to do is to be at odds with Canadians on NAFTA and have some of that oil cut off from you and let it go to Asia. The Canadians are openly discussing this. They don’t like NAFTA changes that the United States has talked about.}}}}

The dhimokrats are ravaging the working class, the elderly, the poor, and for what???????

Do they hate them?

By ilikemike

May 16, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

sheet

son of beech

bush mccain

mccain bush

obama my mama

By ervin mann

May 16, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

just dumb bush think people are it was grandfather who supported hitler in world war 2 seems he forgot that???

By Curious George

May 16, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Luckovich is a racist. He draws cartoons of the President resembling a monkey. That makes him a racist according to all liberals. He must be punished. He must be censored. Freedom of speech must be limited to all those who tow the party line. That is political correctness. That is what we strive for in the ideal Liberal America, Comrades!

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

ITN - you libs certainly know how to spin things. The Republicans tweaked the Demoncrats on this one, not the other way around. You need to do a little more fact checking.

By ilikemike

May 16, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

sheet

son of beech

in the news good

obama good soldier

obama no play golf

obama smoke cigarette instead

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

ITN - in other words, the United States Senate voted for censorship. You must be proud to be a Fascistcrat!!!

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

{{{{Democrats have now added a 0.5% income tax surcharge on incomes over $500,000 for individuals, $1 million for couples. >>>>>>>”They’re not going to miss it,”<<<<<<< Arkansas Democrat Mike Ross told AP, in a sign of his respect for hard-earned private income.}}}}

{{{{The surcharge won’t vanish if the war does. And it would hit millions of small subchapter S businesses that pay individual income rates – and which hire the very people that Democrats claim need more jobless benefits because the economy is so terrible. Democrats know Mr. Bush will veto this tax hike. But they are trying to sell voters on the illusion that Democrats can deliver vast new benefits – and the only folks who’ll have to pay for them are those who won’t “miss it.”}}}}

The rich won’t “miss their money” and the poor and needy won’t miss their jobs that the rich cannot pay them for thanks to not having the money they do not “miss.”

Do dhimokrats hate the poor?

By GMAN

May 16, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Hey Curious George

“Luckovich is a racist. He draws cartoons of the President resembling a monkey.”

He looks more like a jackass to me! Put a shell on his back and he’ll look like a turtle. LOL

By Goldie

May 16, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

$6 BILLION down the drain in Pakistan— and Bin Laden and al-Qaidais are still running free! — see AJC page A11.

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

FOR

RW/AJC/ZELL/RB/DEVIL/WHATTHEHELLEVERYOUARETODAY

I’m having a wonderful day, looking forward to a tremendous weekend and well, as for you and any and all of your nonsense today

there’s this

y’all just don’t play well with others!

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

A REPUBLICAN said that, Mr. Bush.

By Goldie

May 16, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

The Repug Party is full of terrorist-appeasers… look at how Dubya now wants to TALK WITH NORTH KOREA!

By Curious George

May 16, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

GMAN - actually, if he drew Bush looking like a jackass, that would make him a Democrat, just like you!

By Buy Danish

May 16, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Is Devastator lurking about?

I just happened to find out about this recent event which featured Obama’s friend Bill Ayers. Clearly he is still a dedicated Communist, but of course there was no way for Bambi to have known this, and I’m just a racist and a McCarthyite for mentioning it.

Ayers was a featured speaker at this idiotic event which featured such progressive events as:

REVOLUTIONARY MAYDAY MARCH -For a Classless, Stateless Society! -For a Revolutionary Alternative!

ANARCHIST AND RADICAL BOOKFAIR AND FREE SCHOOL REVOLUTIONARY SOCCER TOURNAMENT AND PEOPLE’S PICNIC* WAKE UP THE EARTH PARADE* CONVERGE AGAINST CAPITALISM*

Also present was another Marxist with roots in Chicago, Noel Ignatiev, erstwhile Harvard Professor and publisher of “Race Traitor” Magazine, which calls for the abolition of the white race.

By Bosch

May 16, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

I don’t get today’s cartoon. Did I miss something?

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - it is great to see you back. Your posts are always well written and cogent - an oasis in a liberal desert of doom and dispair!

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

{{{{Just when the news was filling with stories about a Republican Party gasping for air, along comes the California Supreme Court’s 4-3 decision yesterday legislating gay marriage. The GOP certainly hasn’t done anything to deserve such luck.}}}}

{{{{California’s Supreme Court is not the law of the land, but its 4-3 ruling, titled “In re Marriage Cases” for six consolidated appeals, explicitly told both the state’s voters and its elected legislature to get lost. Back in 2000, California voters by 61% approved a proposition asserting that the state could only recognize a “marriage” between man and woman.}}}}

Thanks for the help.

The single most important issue of this election:

{{{{It is preposterous, though, to let four judges decide this for a state of more than 36 million diverse individuals.}}}}

Just imagine for a moment the types of judges that Super Lib Obambi would appoint.

By truthman

May 16, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Excellent letter to the editor from the Seattle Times.

We need to airdrop food, water and medicine into Myannmar with or without the approval of the U.N. or China:

Government officials and relief agencies from around the world rightfully have been very critical of the lack of concern and cooperation for global relief efforts from the Myanmar junta. Daily, the world is now seeing how despicable it is. The Burmese have had to endure this for decades.

For a brief time, the U.N. talked of air-dropping aid shipments — with or without the blessings of the Myanmar regime — to the hundreds of thousands who are in need and are cut off either physically or politically from the rest of the world. The idea was quickly quashed by the U.N., with China voicing one of the strongest objections [“Cyclone damaged Myanmar ‘rice bowl,’ ” News, May 8].

Due to the lack of food and fresh water required by hundreds of thousands, the death toll is now rising exponentially. Disease is also running rampant. [“Myanmar cyclone death toll soars above 43,000,” News, May 15.]

Carpe diem, President Bush! You have already established that you will invade a country without the blessings of the United Nations. I implore you to do it again today! Not with arms and munitions, but with open arms. Let this be the largest humanitarian invasion in world history. Start airdropping basic necessities that the people need to survive.

A person in your position will always be criticized, but by taking positive action the people of Myanmar, the world and history will applaud you.

This is my plea for humanity.

— Jim Rohrssen

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

If 70 is ‘too old’ to be VP…

By Goldie

May 16, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Bosch @ 9:32 — Dubya stated a few days ago that he’d given up playing golf in honor of our fallen soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq… and what’s worse, he’s actually on video playing golf recently!

By WTF?

May 16, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Dropping aide into Myanmar would be like dropping black market profits into the hands of the junta. truthman would feel so much better for having done so.

IDIOT!

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Just imagine for a moment the types of judges that Super Lib Obambi would appoint.

Go Obama - dreams instead of nightmares

By Bosch

May 16, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

Thanks. Yes, apparently I missed that.

I just did a little googling, and found this quote:

” I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal.”

Hmmmm, can anybody think of other signals that Bush has sent out that send the wrong message during this war?

So many places to go with that.

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Truthman - you folks are always saying that we should not act unilateally and that EVERYTHING should be done through the auspices of the (dis)United Nations. Well, which is it? Unilateral action when it pleases you and complete and total bureaucratic paralysis when you are opposed. If we did everything you libs want - Sudan, Rwanda, Burma, etc… we would be involved in about 10 wars across the globe, not just two.

You folks keep saying that we are not the world’s policeman, but you keep advocating that we do just that. I too am outraged by what the Socialist government in Burma is doing, and what they have been doing for the last 45 years, but we cannot violate international law all over the place, overfly the two most populous nations in the world and endanger the security of one of our best allies, Thailand. One has to weigh the consequences of such an action. If you think that Iraq is messy, just imagine what it would be like to get involved in southeast Asia again!

THINK!

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

President Bush committed political treason today

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

For all of you folks who are concerned about the price of oil and want to blame it on Bush, Cheney and anyone else who ever had ties to the AMERICAN oil business just please read this about one of your great heroes:

Associated Press, May 16, 2008

BOGOTA, Colombia — The onus is now on Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to explain evidence of his apparently intimate ties to Colombia’s main guerrilla army.

Interpol on Thursday endorsed the authenticity of computer files seized in a rebel camp, announcing that Colombia did not tamper with documents indicating Chavez sought to finance and arm the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC.

Venezuelan officials set up contacts with Australian arms dealers and arranged for missile training in the Middle East, according to the documents, which were on computer hard drives seized by Colombia and obtained by the Washington Post.

By WTF?

May 16, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

President Bush tried to force Congress to eliminate subsidies to farmers who make more than $200,000 a year, so at least the benefits wouldn’t go to the wealthy.

He tried to change how the U.S. provides international food aid. Buy food in the poor countries where it will be consumed, he argued, so huge dollars don’t have to be spent on shipping it overseas from the U.S. But Congress would have none of that.

Why are we even having a debate over farm subsidies in the midst of sky-high crop prices and a global food crisis? Why don’t members of Congress revolt over this wasteful spending?

Here’s the gambit that the farm lobby employs to perpetuate the larceny, a tactic it has perfected over decades. Congress writes a farm bill every five years that includes all agricultural programs. Sixty-seven percent—that’s more than two of every three dollars in the bill—goes to food stamps and other emergency food help for the poor. The outrageous subsidies come out of the other dollar.

This one can’t be blamed on Bush.

IDIOTS!

By Goldie

May 16, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Sen. McBush has flip-flopped on so many issues, he has literally lost his bearings and moral compass! Who in America could ever think about voting for McBush in November? Oh, that’s right — the Bush-kissers in the 28% Club, I suppose! Those Club members obviously have lost their own bearings and have no morals, to boot!

By GMAN

May 16, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

By Curious George

That’s not what your mother said last night! But I digress. Your defense of the incompetence of our “Commode-in-Crook doesn’t amaze me. It just proves my point that THE CRACKER FACTOR IS ALIVE AND WELL IN YOUR HOME!

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch May 16, 2008 10:05 AM Hmmmm, can anybody think of other signals that Bush has sent out that send the wrong message during this war?}}}}

I got one! I got one!

How about splooging on some fat intern in the Oval Office while he was bombing Iraq?

Oh, I’m sorry, I’m thinking of a different president.

Never mind.

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

ITN - please cite ANYWHERE in Bush’s speech where he mentioned any Demagogue (oops Democrat) by name. I think he could have been talking about any number of European, Asian, Australian, African, South American or North American politicians. In fact, if he had any Democrat in mind it was probably Old Dummy Carter. I think that he must have hit a nerve.

However, the blatant hypocrisy on this is too much. Remember how you said that Bush and other conservatives had no right to criticize the Dixie Chics when they were in London and criticized the president - which they had every right to do, however STUPID it was.

However, in this particular case, he happens to be RIGHT, CORRECT, EXACTLY on point. You folks are ultrasensative to the fact that Obama has promised Chamberlain like behavior if elected President.

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

little newsie namejacker,

If you want an answer to your 8:15 you’re going to have to provide a link that works. When I hit the fever swamps I like to get in and out quickly.

By Goldie

May 16, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Why do the Repugs allow terrorist-appeasers like Dubya to remain in their Party??? Where’s your outrage about Dubya & Condi wanting to TALK TO NORTH KOREA???

By WTF?

May 16, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Chavez is funding FARC rather than feeding his people.

Interpol’s forensic capabilities far outstrip those of Colombia. By bringing Interpol into the investigation, Colombia successfully gained credibility for its claims against Venezuela and Ecuador. Although the official reading of the seized documents has not been released, a great deal of information has been leaked to the press regarding FARC activities. Allegations include the following claims:

* Venezuela has offered to help FARC obtain surface-to-air missiles. * Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa accepted $100,000 from FARC during his 2006 presidential campaign. * Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez used a trip to Belarus and connections with Victor Sheiman, secretary of the Belarusian Security Council, to funnel arms to FARC. * FARC has established cells in 17 countries, under the aegis of a leftist group called the Bolivian Continental Coordinator.

Chavez has his own little OFF (Oil for Food) scandal going on. He has cash flow problems. Selling off his country’s resources for influence. His people are starving.

In April, year-on-year inflation on food prices hit 41.5 percent in Venezuela. Shortages of basic staples such as rice, milk and eggs have been widely reported throughout the country.

Some revolution for Venezuela’s poor, eh?

Governments breed IDIOTS to vote for IDIOTS!

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

For years now we have goldielox squawking about the 28% club and now we have little newsie namejacker reporting a new all time low of 31%.

Whatever…

Now the real story is the 82% number saying the country is on the wrong track and you reporting as 82% hating conservative principles.

Count me among that 82%, but it sure as h e double hockey sticks isn’t because of the good things we’re doing, like helping build a thriving democracy in the heart of the middle east and staying on the offense against our sworn enemies. And last I checked the Congress is in the complete control of Democrats and has been for almost a year and a half. (yes, finch, I know the Republicans in the Senate can filibuster, but they can’t set the agenda so don’t get your panties in a wad again.)

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Goldielox,

If you’ll recall the Bush administration insisted on multilateral talks with North Korea and set preconditions. They learned from the ineptitude of Billy Jeff’s administration. You know, the one that made a one on one agreement with North Korea that only we kept.

I can only imagine how bad these people will hoodwink Obambi.

By All Together Now

May 16, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Nonsensical Republican Slogans, cont:

Terrorist Appeasers!

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

If I was one of the Saudi Royal family members that Bush is asking to increase their oil output, I think the first thing I would ask the American President is “why are you asking us when you won’t lift a finger to pump your own oil reserves?”

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

{{{{ But their message of unity gets lost in a din of cognitive dissonance. To succeed, they must first create a divide of resentment the size of Montana among the have-not-enoughs toward those perceived to have too much. No one has tried this more brazenly than Edwards with his “two Americas” presidential campaign, which failed twice, by the way.}}}}

{{{{The question — should this duo have their way — isn’t when will the poor be wealthy enough? But, when will the wealthy be poor enough?}}}}

{{{{Presumably, Edwards knows how to relate to these folks, given his heritage and his years as a trial lawyer representing the little people against corporate America. Notwithstanding his 28,000-square-foot house and $400 haircuts. And ignoring the fact that one reason health insurance rates are so high — and that so many poor rural folks lack quality medical care — is because of Edwards’ and other trial lawyers’ success in convincing jurors that doctors owe the world always-perfect results.}}}}

“Change we can count on,” eh?

By Mel

May 16, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

The Bushdrunk’s words & actions are such a heavy slime. Well, at least he’s in the right place w the right people: Israel. They hungrily eat up all they can get. Pitiful.

By Homer Simpson

May 16, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

MMMMMMMmmmmm…CRACKERS!

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Goldie - Bush and Rice have said repeatedly that they will NOT sit down alone with the North Koreans. But the fact remains, thanks to Old Dummy and Billy the Rapist, that the North Koreans ALREADY have nuclear weapons. North Korea is a special case simply because a former President and current IDIOT keeps sticking his nose in where it does NOT belong.

Should we sit down and negotiate with a man who sounds like he is reciting straight out of Mein Kampf? I think not. It won’t work anyway and it lends credibility to a very illegitimate regime.

Negotiating with Hamas or Hezbollah is right out. Should we also negotiate with the KKK? I think not. They are criminals and are to be eliminated.

Please tell us what we are to do? Provide us some solutions rather than just complaining. You folks - especially Obama - sound like H. Ross Peeeerotttt in 1992 - all questions and no concrete solutions.

By Shawny

May 16, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

This is the guy that should have been elected president years ago. He gets it.

Bush doesn’t, McCain doesn’t, and certainly the dems don’t. Read this piece…it puts prices, supply/demand, and other economic challenges into context.

By FREE MARKETS WORK

May 16, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Tough Competition

And for those wondering how the U.S. economy is avoiding recession, the answer may be in the latest world competitiveness report out of IMD Business School in Switzerland. It ranks the American economy as the most competitive for the 15th straight year.

It says the economy is the world’s strongest, topping all others in investments, stock purchases and commercial service exports. It says the U.S. is the easiest place to secure venture capital for business development. And, it writes the U.S. dominates all other economies in key technology criteria such as computers in use.

Project director Stephane Garelli says, “The U.S. always seems to find the means to reinvent itself in ways that Japan, and much of Europe, often lacks.”

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

IS HE ON HIS KNEES AGAIN TODAY?

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Mel - you win the anti-Semite, fool of the day award. Congratulations!

By BFD!

May 16, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Explain the difference IN THE NEWS.

Barack Obama sacks adviser over talks with Hamas

This was denounced as an offensive smear by Mr Obama, who repeated earlier statements saying that Hamas was “a terrorist organisation [and] we should not negotiate with them unless they recognise Israel, renounce violence”.

Iran’s on the list as a terrorist organisation too. They don’t recognize Israel.

Why is Obama willing to talk with one and not the other? Why did Obama dismiss a staffer for engaging with a terrorist group even though he, himself is willing to do the same?

Why does Obama always whine about everything being an offensive slur against him.

Because he’s a freaking puss and a mama’s boy. THAT’S WHY!

By Mel

May 16, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

The Bushdrunk’s words & actions are such a heavy slime. Well, at least he’s in the right place w the right people: Israel. They hungrily eat up all they can get. Pitiful.

By BTW

May 16, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Go ahead and link directly to the far-leftywing site, Firedoglake instead of AlterNet fool. It deserves to be added to all the other left-wing crapsites you constantly link to. You’re so far out in left field you’re not even visible anymore.

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Mel is your name really Louis Farrakhan? Or maybe Jeremiah Wright or Jesse Jackson? Racist.

By Mel

May 16, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

The Bushdrunk’s words & actions are such a heavy slime. Well, at least he’s in the right place w the right people: Israel. They hungrily eat up all they can get. Pitiful.

By Copyleft

May 16, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

BFD: The difference is simple; Iran ISN’T a terrorist organization. It’s a country.

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

copyleft - No there is not difference because Iran FUNDS those organizations and acts as a terrorist state. FDR refused to talk or negotiate directly with Hitler starting in 1937 because he knew it was of no use. He made the mistake of negotiating with Japan. Look what that got us. They used it as a delaying tactic so that they could execute a sneak attack.

You need to read a book.

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

I’m sure McBushie thinks he’s reaching out to his real base by pandering to the liberal blogosphere, but it would appear that in reality he’s opened up a whole new frontline for Operation Chaos.

By BFD!

May 16, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Another IDIOT, Copyleft! Hamas is part of the government of Palestine which is a country IDIOT. Hamas is an irritant, a flea on the back of Israel. Is Hamas guilty of killing our troops in Iraq?

Iran IS guilty of killing our troops and PussObama wants to sit down and negotiate with them. Negotiate what?

EMBECILE!

By Mel

May 16, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Devil: Grow up. Cease crying “anti-semite” & “Racist.” That’s the same old crud. I am a REALIST. A thorough life has taught me that. Even as you, a member of the Racist Party, vomit forth your ignorance and varied hatreds here daily. I rarely answer on this blog. You will be my exception for today. You are one of “the little people,” clinging to your massive insecurities and whatever other illnesses your unfortunate “parents” afflicted you with decades ago. You are deeply over your head and out of your league - like many other inferiors here. You must somehow learn to remain in your proper place. I know that’s difficult for you hate disciples, but give it a try. Kay??

By Morningstar

May 16, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

By The Devil You Say May 15, 2008 11:56 A

Devil, I noted your response regarding Jimmy Carter’s failed energy policy yesterday. The gas lines you refer to were created by the Arab oil embargo in 1973. JC took office in 77 and did organize a Department of Energy and warned the American people what would happen if we didn’t ‘tighten the belt’ so to speak, and conserve oil. I’m not going into a charade about why this was so unpopular; however, had we remained on course with conservation we wouldn’t be having the problems we have today. Many have found solar power in homes to be very effective. I believe President Reagan had the solar panels removed from the white house…….Anyhoo, GWB’s suggestion that our ‘problems’ were caused by lack of an energy policy will not hold water. No, it wasn’t Clinton’s fault. Again, I’m not going into all the drama in regards to the failure. I just think it’s quite humorous that ole JC was right about what would happen.

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Why is Obambi wearing his flag pin today?

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Mel - No you are a member of the racist party. You are the party of slavery, segregation, anti-semitism, the KKK and the Southern Manifesto. You are the party of biggotry, race-baiting, hate and Jeremiah Wright. Your condescending lecture to me proves that you are an effite, elitist snob with little common sense and less real education. Now go home to your mommy. I think she’s calling you.

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

[Former Clinton administration Middle East peace negotiator Rob Malley now heads the Middle East program of the International Crisis Group, an international conflict resolution nongovernmental organization. He has also been one of many informal advisers to Barack Obama’s campaign. ](http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/05/8216washingtonmid.html0

AND

But on certain issues, it’s vitally important that where they have no sunlight between them the GOP not get away with painting Obama as somehow weak or indecisive, or any of the standard canards they’ve been lobing at liberals for the past forty years. Obama didn’t hesitate to “fire” an “informal, outside” foreign policy adviser who spoke to Hamas as part of his real job in a conflict resolution think-tank, the International Crisis Group. [Just the sort of expert you might want some day to, you know, resolve the conflict there. No?] The man’s actions of course didn’t comport with Obama’s stated policy recognizing that Hamas is “a terrorist organisation [and] we should not negotiate with them unless they recognise Israel, renounce violence”.

LET ME ADD

Just because you can type idiot or imbecile…..surely don’t make you more knowledgeable about anything.

By POS! EMBECILE! MORON!

May 16, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

BFD = AJC/DUH/the rest of the cast.

Remember, its signature sign-off is to hurl an insult.

Just rebuke it in the name of Jeebus - then watch its head spin before vomiting up the RNC talking points for the day and signing off with another insult.

By Mel

May 16, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Satan: Looks like this might be my day for dealing with intellectual dwarves and insectile mentalities. You know not that you know not that you know not. You bet I’m a snob; my life began where yours ceased. You just never grew, despite decades of wasteful breathing. You “little wee-wee guys” are all brothers. A stench in the nostrils of the very word, “decency.” Now hush - you cannot possibly compete. You’ve never experienced the world. Put on your ball cap and hug your SUV - you’ll feel more masculine that way.

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Mel - you just proved what a fool you are. I don’t even have to make any specific reply to your senseless rant. You must be the life of the party. I bet you have lots of friends.

By the way, I don’t wear ball caps and I have never owned an SUV.

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Mel May 16, 2008 12:37 PM You just never grew, despite decades of wasteful breathing. You “little wee-wee guys”}}}}

Sounds like ole mel like the “big wee-wee” guys.

GFY (good for you, mel.)

By Shawny

May 16, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Here’s the best toon going on oil.

Keeping thinking, unka Sam, its there right under your nose (or something like that).

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Shawny - great toon. But the Demoncrats don’t want to tap into these for motives known and unknown, none of them having to do with the environment!

Madeleine Albright actually asserted at one point that it was wrong for the US to be so much richer and more powerful than other nations. Well, that’s liberal guilt for you. They will ensure poverty for all, that way we will all be equal.

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Copyleft - I will reply to your assertion that Barak H. Obama has not said anything racist. By the way, I did not ask about Obama, but I will cite an example - his outrageous statement about the working class (white) folks in Pennsylvania clinging to their guns and religion and fearing those who are ‘different’. That certainly can easily be construed as racist.

Bill Clinton has also been accused of making racist statements lately. Robert C. ‘Sheets’ Byrd is still in the Senate. Alcee Hastings is still in the House of Representatives, and so is Maxine Waters.

By the way, you never answered my question. Typical, sweety.

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

little newsie namejacker,

Are you advocating that we bomb China and India into the stone age so that we can suspend the laws of supply and demand?

By Bosch

May 16, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil and Shawny,

And what happens when that is gone?

As a tree hugging, granola crunching, Birkenstock wearing, radical environmentalist, I can say that my position is pretty simple:

I don’t have a problem with tapping into our domestic resources as long as we develop ways to use renewable resources for our energy needs to go along with it.

Eventually the oil will run out and it can not be replaced, and in the meantime, the demand for it in China is growing at a huge exponential rate compared to our country, and the supplies are dwindling more and more every day.

Personally, I’d love to see oil run out - it’s ruining our planet, but that’s just me.

Now, this is something I don’t know, so maybe one of you can help me out. Who owns the oil that we are calling “domestic reserves?” Is it the oil company that gets it out or the government? If it’s the oil companies, how are we even assured they will allow it to be used here? Couldn’t they make more $$$ selling it to China? Or since it is a limited supply, couldn’t they charge whatever $$$ they wanted?

We need to find renewable resources to run the stuff we have. We need to get off the oil teat. We need companies that put the interests of the country before $$$$, but that’s just my opinion.

By Sitting here laughing my butt off

May 16, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

POVERTY FOR ALL!

Yup, that’s just what me and my liberal friends want. Sure thing. Anybody else? Hands in the air for POVERTY FOR ALL!

OMFG - Devil, won’t you please Please PLEASE find a larger public forum through which you can demonstrate your ignorance?

Currently, the GOP is in desperate need of people like you to spew loudly and often about your core beliefs. List ‘em! Lay ‘em right out there for America to read and hear!

Gotta hand it to you, you’ll recruit citizens’ votes by the THOUSANDS if you’ll just open up your yap and let it rip.

Bring it on! Speak up! MORE! MORE!

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

{{{{Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki is in the northern city of Mosul to supervise an offensive against Sunni insurgents.}}}}

{{{{“The main aim of this operation is to purge and clean Nineveh province of all militants and their weapons and declare it a safe area,” an Iraqi Defence Ministry spokesman told The Associated Press.}}}}

{{{{“This phase has featured intensified operations by Iraqi security forces,” Maj Gen Bergner said.}}}}

Go get em, boys.

By @@

May 16, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama: the new Great Redeemer

You will not see a finer example of the genre than the cover story of this week’s Newsweek, which was entitled “The O Team”. This rhapsodic inside account of Senator Obama’s campaign reads a little like a cross between Father Alban Butler’s Life of St Francis and the sort of authorised biography of Kim Jong Il you can pick up in any good bookshop in Pyongyang.

Barack Obama, “Our Dear Leader”. Has anybody here seen the special,”Inside North Korea”? The citizens have this glazed over look in their eyes when talking about Kim Jong. They don’t know anything different. A frightening comparison indeed.

(((If the past 40 years have taught us anything they have surely taught that premature canonisation is an almost certain guarantee of subsequent deep disappointment.)))

Enjoy membership in “The O-Team” orgy while it lasts. The “flush” will come over leftists soon enough. No doubt they’ll refer to it as “the afterglow”. Afterall, it’s WORDS that matter most - so says THEIR Dear Leader.

About your cartoon ml. Your leftist caddies here are a hole IN ONE, yours!

Putt putt.

By Georgia74

May 16, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Great toon Mike.

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

THREE WORDS

SAINT RONALD REAGAN

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Sitting here - that is what your policies will bring us eventually. You want shared scarcity, disincentives to work through confiscatory tax rates and a no growth economy. With your economic policies and this idea that it is somehow wrong to get rich or make a profit and that the United States is somehow bad because it is the richest nation on Earth and we define the poverty line somewhere around where the rest of the world defines upper middle class is absurd.

By Abe

May 16, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Mel, your post(s) is on target. My Hebrew brethren in Israel will gladly sop up every ounce of pity party gravy offered up. We have supported them forever and derive precious little from that relationship. the typical ignorant American should educate himself by reading of the vast atrocities inflicted by the State od Israel upon the their neighbors, the French, and especially the British. It’s all history and very available to the simple masses. In consideration of its relatively short existence Israel ranks at the top of all nations in its history of brutality and aggressive warfare nature. And that, my friend, is absolute fact and truth. A disappointment to be sure. Nor will it change in the future.

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

ITN - at least you got something right. He is a Saint!

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Sitting here - please tell me how your economic policies of high taxes and overregulation of business will lead to a wider prosperity? I really do want to know your answer. You see, all I have ever seen from the Democrats is a belief that everything is finite and that everything is based on what we can ‘divide’ up, as far as wealth goes. They look at it as finite. They want to give everyone a tiny slice of a tiny pie rather than baking a bigger one. Please tell me how Nancy Pelosi and Barak Insane Obambi are going to bake that bigger pie?

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

Abe - you must be a real thrill to have at a Chanukah party. Dweeb.

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

Obambi sure has his underoos in a bunch over this appeasement thing. What’s that phrase (m)ental (m)idget likes to use? The hit dog barks, perhaps?

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Remember when all you moonbat(ic)s® were barking at the moon after Cowboy Bush named three countries our enemies?

Well Obambi just one upped him and named Iran, Syria, North Korea, and Venezuela as our enemies.

I look forward to you pounding on him the rest of the day so you can show your consistency.

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Israel is the only completely functioning representative democracy in the Middle East or North Africa. Arab citizens can vote and are even represented in the Knesset. Civil rights are guaranteed. There is no such thing as ‘honor killings’ and freedom of religion is guaranteed. Non-Jews are not forced into the military, although Druse Muslims are allowed to serve.

Israel has been attacked on numerous occasions and has not been the aggressor, despite assertions the contrary.

Israelis do not kidnap and torture enemy soldiers. That too is a myth. Israel has also negotiated in good faith with its neighbors and has always been willing to do so. Syria and terrorist organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas will not even recognize Israel’s right to exist.

The assertion that Israel is a terrorist state is one made by left and right wing anti-semites and radicals who cannot stand the fact that Israel is a loyal ally of the Untied States. It is false and it is reprehensible.

Abe, you are a disgrace.

By Daniel

May 16, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

RW: Yesterday you asked about an example of the government substituting religious orthodoxy for medical science. The Schiavo case comes to mind. A brain dead woman, in a coma for 12 years was the subject of a Joint Session of Congress! The president signed into law a bill affecting one person! Teri’s husband wanted her off life support. The fundamentalists in the Catholic Church in Florida and the presidents brother went nuts. Teri’s doctors said she was brain dead, a fact of medical science. In the classic case of the period, the American government relied upon religious orthodoxy and passed a bill saying their judgment was better than that of the doctor! You need not wonder why the republican party is in the toilet.

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Daniel - the governor of Florida signed that bill. The Congress passed a resolution. Also, the Republican party won the election which occurred after the Schiavo case. Valuing life has nothing to do with religion trumping science. It has to do with basic human values.

By Gman

May 16, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

John McLoon is the direct result of the lowering of the bar for president in 2000. He can’t put three sentences together without putting his foot in his mouth. He masks his lack of competence to lead effectively by telling jokes. He’s old enough to remember when most major battles were fought with slings and bows and arrows. What a Is this the best the wingnuts can come up with for a candidate? I personally think that he has been designated the sacrificial lamb by the real knuckle draggers that run the party. HA HA HA HA

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Despite all your bleatings over the Congress intervening to keep a corpse animated, all the bill did was to make clear that Terry Schiavo’s parents had standing to file a Federal lawsuit to plead their case. They lost and you were allowed to kill Terry. I hardly think that qualifies as substituting religious orthodoxy for medical science.

Perhaps you should study facts before you try to debate one of your emotional little rants with an informed person. In other words try again.

By Daniel

May 16, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Devil, Lucifer, Satan, Grim Reaper: Teri was on life support for 12 years! Who paid for that? This tragedy befalls American families daily. Was the Church in line to help Michael pay the bills? Is the Federal Government or the State of Florida better positioned to make this decision than Michael? Should each and every brain dead American be kept alive on machines? Who will pay for that? No sir! You are wrong. The issue has nothing to do with basic human values. Tell us about Michael’s position. Do not suggest he doesn’t value life. Answer the practical questions. How long, who pays, who makes the decision? By the way, Abe is not a disgrace, he just disagrees with you. You aren’t always right, you know.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 16, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

@@,

I agree with you completely. I’m glad that the left can’t say that we’ve ever had an irrational attachment to a politician. It’s just so unseemly to see people who are not be critical of their leaders. I mean, I’m willing to bet that if Obama invaded a country based upon reasons and logic that never bore out that the left would still act like he was right along.

I’m glad we don’t have that problem on the right and I can assure you that if Bush had not found those WMD’s and if this Iraq war hadn’t have been so cheap and quick, just like he said, then I would have abandoned him long ago, as any citizen should. You have to hold these people accountable rather than just going along with everything they say no matter how demonstrably false it is.

BTW: Did you see our fellow winger Kevin James on Chris Matthews’ Show last night? You should watch the clip. James, like only a winger can, just creamed Matthews by letting him know that having any knowledge of history has nothing to do with being right. You don’t have to know what Neville Chamberlain did to learn from his mistakes all you have to know is that calling someone else Neville Chamberlain might be a good attack on a political opponent. The lesson of Neville Chamberlain, is to call someone else a “Neville Chamberlain.”

You don’t have to go read in a book that what he did was give Hitler half of Czechslovokia, ostensibly to avoid a war, just because Hitler wanted it. That this was Chamberlain’s mistake and that nobody faults him for talking to Hitler is simply irrelevant and frankly too ‘fact-based’ for my winger tastes. For if you do compare Obama to Chamberlain, in a fact-based context, you have to then ask what is he going to give Iran just because they want it and to avoid war? The answer is probably not half of Czechslovokia or any other concession of that sort. Once you realize that, then the comparison you made in a “factual vaccuum” (known as ‘the comfort zone’ by wingers) falls apart.

In any event talking to Iran may lead to some confusion about Iran’s rights to the Czech Republic so its best to avoid any such talks. I personally prefer what I call Bush’s “modified-Chamberlain” whereby he gives Iran control of its neighbor Iraq at our expense in lives and treasure. A much more bold appr

By Abe

May 16, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

No, LITTLE DEVIL, you are the disgrace. A disgrace to humankind itself. Another ignorant, unwashed American slob who knows nothing of history and refuses to accept fact. Watch that little mouth of yours, lest…. The destruction of thought and the crippling of reason are among the best of what you and your kind offer up to this vanishing nation. You live in order to be told WHAT to do and what NOT to do. Using the same old tired words I’ve heard from the 50s: welfare state, socialized medicine, liberal, pinko, Jesus…the rest. You attempt to inspire hate, doubt, and prejudice against all who possess the dignity and credibility and knowledge to dare speak or report the truth. You are entirely underwhelming and it is quite impossible to underestimate the lack of intelligence and culpable gullibility of such a hated-filled, otherwise empty mind. As Mel indicated, your typically vacuous mind is quite unable to discern the difference between your own weak, vile hatred and those who merely point it out to you. Thus do you humiliate yourself on this blog multiple times daily, yet are too inately stupid to even realize that fact of life. You and your fellow comrades do nothing but erect constant roadblocks of human ignorance in the path of positivity and progress. You, very tiny man, are totally outclassed and out-thought here…and everywhere. A goon’s goon. Now head to your sportsbar and enjoy your weakend. Intellectual insect indeed!

By Bosch

May 16, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

“It is false and it is reprehensible”

Tell that to the families of the 91 people former Prime Minister Begin blew up at the King David Hotel.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Can anyone tell me who owns oil in the ground? The oil companies or the government of the land the oil is under?

By Daniel

May 16, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

RW: My response to Devil above answers you. Aah Friday! When you begin to name-call you begin to lose. Answer the practical questions posed above.

By Sitting Here...

May 16, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

Devil, I don’t mean to make your head explode, but I…am…a…STOCK BROKER! I make my living helping all kinds of people plan for their financial future.

How does that align with your pre-conceived, stereotyping, either/or mindset? Do you still think I want POVERTY FOR ALL?

And FYI, I have no control, other than my single voting voice, over policy decisions. So your words at 2:05 are just careening off into irrelevance.

I think where idealogists on both ends of the American political spectrum get frustrated and marginalized is when they do begin to see everything as either/or.

For those of us in the middle, life and living is about BALANCE, not line-in-the-sand posturing, ranting and raving.

I once had a very wise mentor who said “You can always get your way IF you have several different ways.”

For me that means not only having a realisitc understanding of markets and market makers, but also the understanding that Capitalism is not the only way by which we can define ourselves.

The soul has needs (and our country has some looming issues) that cannot be addressed by Capitalism alone.

The world and the American spirit of ingenuity could give us clarity and direction. It is only our inhumility that keeps us from HAVING IT ALL.

By @@

May 16, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG:

Looks like your engine’s sputtering.

Other than the democrats, I’d say that McCain has been one of the most vocal critics of Bush on the methods used to wage war in Iraq. He offered a solution, the democrats drank their whine.

Now hush!

(((Saudi Arabia will boost crude oil production to 9.45 million barrels per day (bpd), up 300,000 bpd, in June in response to customer requests, Bloomberg reported May 16, citing comments from Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi. The announcement came after U.S. President George W. Bush met with Saudi King Abdullah. Earlier May 16, U.S. National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said Saudi Arabia — the world’s largest oil exporter — has a policy of supplying extra oil only if customers need it. Al-Naimi said that Saudi Arabia increased output by 300,000 bpd May 10 in response to customer requests, and the June increase follows requests from about 50 customers from around the world.)))

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 16, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Also, I would like to say that with respect to the gross error in judgment that Obama has made in suggesting that we talk to Iran, the fact that:

1) Reagan traded arms for hostages with Iran. The only time in American history that a ransom was paid to terrorists.

2) Reagan negotiated extensively with the “Evil Empire”

3) Bush negotiates with Kim Jong Il.

4) Bush negotiated with Libya.

5) Nixon negotiated with North Vietnam.

are all irrelevant because we say so. So just shup up and let us get away with saying things that are patently false and misleading because once you take that away from us we will no longer will have the two-party system that has served us so well. So there is your choice you leftists and media types: stop pointing out that we are hypocritical liars at the peril of the nation.

And stop this quickly as I understand that McCain and Bush’s next attack on Obama is going to be that voting for Obama will mean higher gas prices. I know, its totally ridiculous given that prices were $1.44 in 2000 and are now $3.78, but come on just let us say it anyway. I mean “Clinton triples stock markets; we triple gas prices” is just not a very effective slogan. The truth ain’t gonna work here and if everybody keeps pointing out that we are lying it just makes it worse.

RWNJIFG

By Old Physics Teacher

May 16, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

RW “… you were allowed to kill Terry.”

Oh man, you’re one of the very few conservatives posting here that have rational reasons for your positions. I rarely agree with you, sir, but I respect you because you are fact-based and stand your ground. I’ll cover your back in a firefight anytime. That comment was all emotion and factually wrong. You’re better than that.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 16, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

@@,

I agree. Look as these scathings remarks:

“But I believe, Katie, that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators.” [NBC, 3/20/03]

“It’s clear that the end is very much in sight.” [ABC, 4/9/03]

“There’s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shiahs. So I think they can probably get along.” [MSNBC, 4/23/03]

“This is a mission accomplished. They know how much influence Saddam Hussein had on the Iraqi people, how much more difficult it made to get their cooperation.” [This Week, ABC, 12/14/03]

“I’m confident we’re on the right course.” [ABC News, 3/7/04]

“I think the initial phases of it were so spectacularly successful that it took us all by surprise.” [CBS, 10/31/04]

“I do think that progress is being made in a lot of Iraq. Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course. If I thought we weren’t making progress, I’d be despondent.” [The Hill, 12/8/05]

Its hard to believe that they are even on speaking terms when you read the venom in those comments. I also think that the accuracy of some of the comments is striking. You want that sort of judgment in the White House. Shia and Sunnis fighting? I mean come on who’da thunk it? He is just so knowlegable about foreign affairs that it instills in me a great confidence that this man understands the world as well as George Bush.

RWNJIFG

By The Devil You Say

May 16, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Sitting - I no more believe you are a stock broker than I believe in the tooth fairy. The fact is that you vote for policies which will stagnate and eventually impoverish. Right now we have the most dynamic economy in the world, but you and yours want to pass policies which will stifle and constrict, much like those followed in western Europe today, or worse, like the Soviet Union of yesteryear.

Share scarcity and rationing are not the answer. Market solutions are. As a ‘stockbroker’ you should know that. Following the policies of Obambi and company would be quite the opposite.

Nice try.

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

nut hugger: I think the big difference here is that Reagan, Bush and Nixon didn’t negotiate our surrender with the enemy, like Obambi would.

It’s best to leave the work of men to the………men.

By @@

May 16, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Sticking it to the “Target”. Went to purchase an infant carrier/carseat for a group of friends. We were giving a group gift to an expectant friend. “Would you like to open a charge account? - it’ll save you 10% on your purchase.” said the sales clerk.

At $257.00, 10% looked good. “Sure” I said. When the bill came I wrote a check for the full amount and mailed it in plenty of time to arrive before the due date. Next bill comes and there’s a $32.97 charge. I called! “What’s this $32.97 charge?”

“Your payment was late by one day.”

“Say what? One day late fee is $32.97?” “You’ve gotta be kidding! I mailed it in plenty of time.” “I wanna close this account.”

“But wait Ms. @@, we can adjust your bill by removing $14.00.” “It’s possible that we were late in processing your payment.”

“Alrighty then, let’s do that” I said. Done! “Now let me talk to your supervisor.” Done! Next…

“Ms. So&So just removed $14.00 from my late charge, but I wanna know how you can justify the remaining $18.97?” “Close this account.” But wait….

“We can remove the $18.97 Ms. @@.” “Great, let’s do that.” Done!

After getting names and I.D. #s on promised transactions, my last words were “CLOSE MY ACCOUNT”. Done!

I love Clark Howard and nailing the TARGET.

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Obambi went back to whining and got slammed for it, again:

{{{{Obama and his surrogates drew those connections themselves. Instead of acknowledging the historical truth of appeasement’s failures, they chose to argue with it. Obama could have taken the smart route and embraced it to explain how he understands the lessons of appeasement, which is why his talks with Iran would not result in it. Instead, he got volcanically defensive, which suggests that even Obama sees the parallels between his everything’s-on-the-table approach and the Chamberlain diplomacy which resulted in dismantling Czechoslovakia.}}}}

{{{{And if Obama considers discussion of foreign policy “divisive”, then he should hie himself right back to Academia. Guess what, Senator? Presidential elections focus on foreign-policy principles, and if you can’t defend yours, then you have no business running for office.}}}}

Poor wittle thing.

By @@

May 16, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

In response to my first comment:

(((By @@:

RWNJIFG:

Looks like your engine’s sputtering.))) he responds…

(((@@,

I agree.)))

Good! Now hush.

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Where have you heard this before:

{{{{This is the oldest and the best argument for conservatism: the argument from the fact that our actions almost always have unforeseen and unwelcome consequences. It is an argument from so great and so mournful a fund of experience, that nothing can rationally outweigh it. Yet somehow, at any rate in societies like ours, this argument never is given its due weight. >>>>When what is called a “reform” proves to be, yet again, a cure worse than the disease, the assumption is always that what is needed is still more, and still more drastic, “reform.”<<<<}}}}

By Just Saying

May 16, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

All this talk of animated corpses has me pondering a McCain presidency.

So I’ve cherry-picked @@’s words:

“…I’d say that McCain has been one of the most vocal critics of Bush…”

…as a reminder to myself that YES, McCain is currently running to the middle in order to distance himself from Bush and frame himself (again) as an independent thinker.

But never forget, Kiddies, that McCain is a Republican.

An old Republican.

A dirty, old Republican.

He can be counted on, when the chips are down, to always do their bidding.

Just a friendly reminder, lest some of you get too excited about this latest performance by the “Free-thinker.”

McCain’s on-stage act is always just that.

By Morningstar

May 16, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

By Bosch May 16, 2008 1:25 PM We need to find renewable resources to run the stuff we have. We need to get off the oil teat. We need companies that put the interests of the country before $$$$, but that’s just my opinion

Bosch, this was precisely the message President Carter attempted to convey in his April 18, 1977 speech to the nation. Devil mentioned yesterday the lines at the pump were caused by JC’s energy policy, when in fact they were caused by the Arab Oil Embargo in 1973. I don’t have a link to share, but I’m sure it’s out there if you go on your favorite search engine. It’s well worth reading. We didn’t listen, and now we’re reaping the consequences. Things are ‘afixin’ to get worse.

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

So McCain really blew it today.

He called Obama’s response a

“hysterical diatribe”

The American people will see the strong Obama response and hear John “vile temper” McCain’s

and

well

they’ll know who’s hysterical!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 16, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

AJC,

I totally agree. If were are going to give Iraq to Iran we ought to do the fighting and spending to make that a reality rather than just handing it over. Bush isn’t giving away anything. We fought and died to give Iraq to Iran. A much better policy than appeasement. I call it Chamberlain Mach II. You see what Chamberlain ought to have done was invade Czechslovakia, take it over, let Hitler support the resistance while Great Britain lost thousands of lives and billions of dollars until reality set in and they would be forced to leave with a broken economy and military. Meanwhile Hitler then takes over the country basically without any resistance at all. I think it is one hell of a game plan. When Iraq becomes a satellite of Iran, then you will know what we paid for in lives and treasure. Luckily for us, the strategy is bound to succeed. Its just matter of how many lives are lost and how broke we get before we leave.

As far as Reagan giving missles to Iran for hostages, I agree that was a ‘manly’ move. As you’ll recall once he was caught he did speech saying that he shouldn’t have done it, but that he really didn’t understand what was going on and that he was sorry. It takes a man to screw up, apologize and then be willing to say that his own ignorance led to the problem. That’s real man stuff right there.

Most President just wouldn’t have traded for hostages in the first place because they lack the balls to try to deal with it once caught. Not Reagan, he had the balls to do it and take the consequences of doing it. What a guy. Do you think McCain has the balls to give Iran missles in trade for something? Because if he’s got that kind of balls, I’m voting for him rather than writing in W as I’d planned.

RWNJIFG

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 16, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

AJC,

I totally agree. If were are going to give Iraq to Iran we ought to do the fighting and spending to make that a reality rather than just handing it over. Bush isn’t giving away anything. We fought and died to give Iraq to Iran. A much better policy than appeasement. I call it Chamberlain Mach II. You see what Chamberlain ought to have done was invade Czechslovakia, take it over, let Hitler support the resistance while Great Britain lost thousands of lives and billions of dollars until reality set in and they would be forced to leave with a broken economy and military. Meanwhile Hitler then takes over the country basically without any resistance at all. I think it is one hell of a game plan. When Iraq becomes a satellite of Iran, then you will know what we paid for in lives and treasure. Luckily for us, the strategy is bound to succeed. Its just matter of how many lives are lost and how broke we get before we leave.

As far as Reagan giving missles to Iran for hostages, I agree that was a ‘manly’ move. As you’ll recall once he was caught he did speech saying that he shouldn’t have done it, but that he really didn’t understand what was going on and that he was sorry. It takes a man to screw up, apologize and then be willing to say that his own ignorance led to the problem. That’s real man stuff right there.

Most President just wouldn’t have traded for hostages in the first place because they lack the balls to try to deal with it once caught. Not Reagan, he had the balls to do it and take the consequences of doing it. What a guy. Do you think McCain has the balls to give Iran missles in trade for something? Because if he’s got that kind of balls, I’m voting for him rather than writing in W as I’d planned.

RWNJIFG

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

Know why Democrats can’t compare Bush to Hitler?

Hitler finished his Army service to his country.

By @@

May 16, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Iran confirmed on Thursday that it has booked a supertanker to store up to 270,000 tons of crude oil for up to 90 days.

Iran already has more than 28 million barrels of oil floating in tankers outside its main export terminal in the Persian Gulf. The fleet of tankers storing this crude is owned by NITC, a subsidiary of state-owned oil firm National Iranian Oil Co. (NIOC), and has a capacity of more than 30 million barrels of crude — the equivalent of more than a week of Iran’s oil output.

There is something very wrong with this picture.

The more likely reason behind Iran hoarding its oil is a drop in demand for Iranian crude — which spells far more serious consequences for the Islamic Republic.

Iran’s main oil export is a heavy crude that is difficult for refiners to convert into transport fuel. Most of the oil currently being stored off the Iranian coast comes from the Soroush and Nowruz fields, which produce approximately 190,000 bpd of low-quality, high-sulfur crude. Iran has already had a difficult time finding buyers for this heavy sour crude, but still is highly reluctant to cut the price down. The Iranians appear to have now reached a point where they have little choice but to take the hit in income and store the crude, in the hopes that demand for their product will rebound.

Oil is the backbone of the Iranian economy, and if Iran is resorting to storing up loads of crude in the Gulf for lack of buyers, its financial — and thus internal political — stability will soon be coming into serious question.

It’s important to remember that Iran has an incredibly delicate social stability index to manage, with only about 55 percent of its population composed of ethnic Persians. The remaining population is made up of ethnic minorities who are kept in check by Tehran through a combination of military force and heavy state subsidies. If it is already having trouble sustaining its oil exports — and its economic problems continue to worsen — Iran runs the risk of losing its ability to function as a state, much less an aggressive one.

Keep in mind, Saudi Arabia is no friend to Iran. Saudi Arabia is boosting production. Could it be….?

By Daniel

May 16, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Bosch: It’s our oil. It just happens to be under their sand. RWNJIFG: You’re hot! RW: No answer? I thought so. Devil: Hello? The Schiavo Case reveals the failure of the right-wing. You can see it above. Many families struggle with a loved one, perhaps elderly, who is feeble. When they are dependant upon life support; the right talks about “the value of life”. Yet, they fail to provide any practical answers. Who wipes, Who cleans, who brushes the teeth, who bathes? Who pays the bills? One thing is certain, the Church isn’t paying the bills. The right-wing has lost the Independants. Hopefully the republican party will “right” itself. We’ll all be better off.

By Morningstar

May 16, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

By Just Saying May 16, 2008 3:50 PM McCain is currently running to the middle in order to distance himself from Bush and frame himself (again) as an independent thinker. But never forget, Kiddies, that McCain is a Republican.

Add this one regarding Mission Accomplished. (((This conflict is still going to be relatively short : Sen. John McCain, 3/23/03))) From The American Conservative 5/5/08.

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

You misstated the facts of the case of the intervention by Congress and I won’t allow you to exchange a series of irrelevant questions for what you owe the blog, which is to tell us when the government has replaced science with religious orthodoxy.

You also misstated that she was kept alive on a machine, she wasn’t. She had a feeding tube but no other artificial means of life support.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Polly or on the off chance you really are Old Physics Teacher,

When speaking to irrational beings like Daniel it’s sometimes fun to use colorful phrases so you can watch the impending implosion. Please try to remember that and watch for fallout.

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Also where do you find any name calling in my 2:44?

By IN THE NEWS

May 16, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

For forty years, the most important trait of conservatives of all stripes has been their unshakable conviction that their vision and their ideas are right. Moral permissiveness, a feckless foreign policy, a welfare-dependent underclass: all the viruses that had infected the body politic under the stewardship of liberals would be cured if only conservatives were given a chance. The right was united above all in its belief that a new Eden would dawn when Americans were liberated from the tyranny of government, whose intrusive hands reached unwarrantedly into every aspect of citizens’ lives (save, of course, the bedroom, where those hands were needed to prevent overly liberated citizens from indulging the wrong impulses). When Bill Clinton ended welfare and declared that the era of big government was over, the argument seemed to have been cinched: at long last, even Democrats had come to realize the folly of their ways. But something funny happened on the way to making the revolution complete: when Republicans were finally given the opportunity to free the citizenry from the chains of the Leviathan state, the result was crony capitalism, fiscal recklessness and bumbling incompetence on an unprecedented scale. The opportunity to govern without interference from liberals came, and the consequences—in New Orleans, in Baghdad, in neighborhoods ravaged by housing foreclosures, in levels of inequality unmatched since the Gilded Age—have been calamitous.

By @@

May 16, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

(((McCain’s on-stage act is always just that.)))

How about Obama’s?

Obama Is Not What He Appears To Be

Check out the “Selected Endorsers of the Call” A lot of the left’s heroes on there. Are they gonna vote Obama in spite of? Are you?

Just saying!

By Sitting Here...

May 16, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Devil, no lie…why should I? To gain the confidence of some faceless wierdo?

But just to provide some grist, I hold Series 7 (registration with the NASD, now FINRA), Series 66 (Registered Rep) and Insurance licenses for Life, Health and LTC.

My daytime job is sitting with clients and helping manage their relationships with their money…guiding them to appropriate financial investments, and identifying short, mid and long-term financial planning.

But there is no surprise here, really, that you can’t even begin to compute. How can you? Your beliefs are black or white.

The fact that that you, once again, try and project all of your stereotypes on me without even knowing me shows how imprisoned your thought processes are.

Find the balance, man!

By Daniel

May 16, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

One last thought on the Schiavo Case; then, I gotta go. Teri was misdiagnosed by her doctor. Michael sued him for medical negligence. He won! That money helped pay the bills while Teri was on life support. 12 years passed. Michael met another woman. The MD said Teri was brain dead. The monthly cost was in the $4000 range. Michael could endure the agony and expense no longer. He sought refuge under Florida Law. He prevailed. The Church, and Michael,s in-laws went berserk. They wanted Teri kept on life support as long as Michael paid the bills. The Church offered nothing. The in-laws gave nothing, the government wanted to tell Michael what to do; they didn’t want to give him any money to do it with. The classic right-wing dodge! Everyone! All! Enjoy your weekend! Bye, bye.

By Bosch

May 16, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Morningstar,

“We didn’t listen, and now we’re reaping the consequences. Things are ‘afixin’ to get worse”

You’re right, and to the uber-right among us, it will be Bill Clinton’s fault and the next President (most likely Obama).

By Bosch

May 16, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Morningstar,

“We didn’t listen, and now we’re reaping the consequences. Things are ‘afixin’ to get worse”

You’re right, and to the uber-right among us, it will be Bill Clinton’s fault and the next President (most likely Obama).

Daniel,

Who owns the oil here in this country? The U.S. government or the oil companies who get it out?

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

{{{{By nut hugger May 16, 2008 3:56 PM Not Reagan, he had the balls to do it and take the consequences of doing it. What a guy. Do you think McCain has the balls to give Iran missles in trade for something?}}}}

Those “missiles” were used to kill Iraqi soldiers who also happened to be our enemy, these are ideas men come up with, not surrendering, which seems to be the sole thought of you dumbas-ses.

{{{{By nut hugger May 16, 2008 3:56 PM Not Reagan, he had the balls to do it and take the consequences of doing it. What a guy. Do you think McCain has the balls to give Iran missles in trade for something?}}}}

Those “missiles” were used to kill Iraqi soldiers who also happened to be our enemy, these are ideas men come up with, not surrendering, which seems to be the sole thought of you dumbas-ses.

Heh, two answers.

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Sitting Here…..

If your daytime job is to sit with folks and direct them to wise financial choices, shouldn’t you be doing that instead of hanging out all day on a cartoon blog?

Just sayin’

/I now return you to your argument with TDYS

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

The oil is owned by whomever owns the land it’s on. That’s how the Clampett’s got to move to Beverly…Hills that is….

I would say that if it’s federal land then the government owns the oil and if oil is discovered under your dog maiming vines it’ll be yours.

By @@

May 16, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

A two-parter from Stratfor. The dang things are so long.

An airstrike in the northwestern Pakistani town of Damadola on Wednesday struck the home of a Taliban leader, according to a militia spokesman quoted by Pakistan’s AAJ TV. Normally such events would not hold our attention, but a conflux of events on Wednesday suggests that this attack is laden with implications.

The airstrike appears to have been launched from Afghan airspace, suggesting that it was almost certainly American in origin.

The Taliban deny that they operate in Pakistan (yet have bases there), the United States denies that it pursues Taliban targets in Pakistan (yet has special forces on sustained deployments there hunting the aforementioned bases), and Pakistan denies that either of the others is doing anything in Pakistani territory (yet cooperates with the Taliban in hiding from the Americans and with the Americans in hunting the Taliban). This is all standard fare in Afghan-Pakistani border politics.

But two twists prompt us to think something more is going on.

The name of the Taliban leader whose house was hit was Maulvi Ubaidullah.

In April the Pakistani ambassador to Afghanistan was kidnapped, and the terms of the ambassador’s release included Islamabad setting free captured Taliban leaders — including one Maulvi Ubaidullah. For someone to be terminated by Hellfire within a few weeks of being in Ameri-, er, Pakistani custody indicates more might be at work than simple coincidence. (In the American counterterrorism lexicon, such operations are called “catch and release.” Suspects are caught, interrogated and released so American operatives can track them back to their bases and allies — at which point liberal amounts of American military hardware are distributed from altitude.)

Second, the Pakistani army began “thinning out” troops from two areas in the South Waziristan region and had a prisoner exchange in an effort to make peace with the Taliban a day after the provincial government in North-West Frontier Province agreed to implement Shariah in the Swat and Malakand districts. Pakistan is in the throes of an unsteady freshman coalition government desperate to prove its strength. One surefire crowd-pleaser in Pakistan is to snub the United States publicly.

By @@

May 16, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

U.S. cooperation with the Pakistani government is independent of public relations between the two states. Washington has long enjoyed functional and fruitful — if not always friendly — ties with the Pakistani military, which remains the real power in the country. It is certainly feasible that American-Pakistani military cooperation has not suffered a whit even as political Islamabad becomes ever more shrill in voicing its unwillingness to cooperate with Washington.

I knew General Kayani was a stand-up guy. Who appointed him? Musharraf, to rule the military in the event of his absence.

Wise move.

By Just Sitting...

May 16, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

RW:

You got me…I’m off today and a little bored.

But I am attending a charity fundraiser tonight…does that somewhat count? :-)

BTW, I agree with the poster above. Rarely do YOU veer off behind that line in the sand. I almost always appreciate your thought-provoking comments.

By Bosch

May 16, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

RW,

So, if we did decide to drill up our domestic reserves, say, for example, in ANWR, the government owns that, right? But they would have to pay someone to get it out, and then after that, who actually sells it and makes the profit?

It’s just something I’ve really never thought about with all the nit picky details. Now, don’t make fun of me for saying this, sometimes it’s healthy to just admit ignorance, but I need an “Oil Business for Dummies” book.

I’ll check under those vines - I could use the cash right now. My poor mutt - he’s really sore. I’m worried about him.

By Morningstar

May 16, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

By Bosch May 16, 2008 4:20 PM You’re right, and to the uber-right among us, it will be Bill Clinton’s fault and the next President (most likely Obama).

President Bush has already tried to blame the lack of an energy policy on Clinton. Politics dictated that we not stick to the energy policy established in 77; hence, the chickens are now coming home to roost. Have you noticed how the uber-right could care less what’s happening as long as Saudi et. al continue to open the gates and let it flow. Seems I read something in Dante’s Inferno about a special little place for those afflicted with greed and avarice. Just a thought.

By AmVet

May 16, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Regarding your assertion about exceptionally non-conservative religiosity run amok in the White House, consider the following:

Few US Presidents have been as openly religious as Bush.

The man actually believes he is on a direct mission from God! (Sounds like something from the Blues Brothers, I know. But in this case their is NO humor involved.) No wonder his many critics maintain he is overly influenced by extremist, even irrational and rabid Christian “leaders”.

How about the appointment of General William Boykin to head the hunt for Osama bin Laden? Boykin, who speaks at evangelical Christian meetings, once said the war on terror was a fight against Satan, and also told a Somali warlord that, ‘My God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.’

Boykin also argued that it must have been God who selected Bush, since a plurality of voters hadn’t. “Why is this man in the White House? The majority of America did not vote for him. He’s in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this.”

Bush has also been accused of a ‘creeping Christianisation’ of federal government programs. In September, the government made more than $60 billion available for religious charitable groups. Critics say the groups will be able to use the cash to promote their religion. One group that benefited from previous grants was an Iowa prison project that entitled inmates to televisions, private bathrooms and computers - in return for Christian counseling.

During his candidacy for the presidency, Bush told a Texan evangelist that he had had a premonition of some form of national disaster happening.

Bush said to James Robinson: ‘I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can’t explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen… I know it won’t be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.’

May the “gods” help us. The Republican King of Kings and his apostles are all freaking nuts…

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Just sitting…..

If you do a good job for your clients and don’t blog on their dime then you’re way ahead of many around here.

Bosch,

Typically there are oil exploration leases that the oil companies pay to the government. I’m not sure whether that relinquishes all rights to the oil, but I know it doesn’t have to. We just need to make sure it’s a lease that puts our interests first.

I sure as heck don’t want a federal Department of Drilling or the oil that comes out will cost $500.00 a barrel. At least.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 16, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

AJC,

While I applaud your ignorance as it is the touchstone of any winger, but you are incorrect to say that Iraq was “an enemy” during the Iran/Iraq War.

In fact, President Ronald Reagan decided that the United States “could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran”, and that the United States “would do whatever was necessary to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran.” President Reagan formalized this policy by issuing a National Security Decision Directive (“NSDD”) to this effect in June, 1982.

I do think that while your stupidity has served you well thus far and while your opinions emanate from a vast morass of ignorance unrivaled by even most nutty of wingnuts, I do think that you might consider that since your credibility is now at an all-time low that you might do the conservative movement a favor by no longer represent it in any fashion whatsoever. Let the people who can lie better do the hard work of spreading the word. I know you mean well, but you are just so wrong so much that I think you are hurting the causes you hold dear. So please, in the name of Ronald Reagan, go away and donate your brain to science so at least someone can make use of it because we can clearly see that you aren’t.

Finally, you might want to consider the value of the opinion of someone who knows nothing about what they are talking about. I think that if you close your eyes and squint and think real hard, even you can conclude that your opinions have absolutely no value, to anyone, including yourself. I know it’s hard to face this reality but you really ought to go away before I embarrass you further.

RWNJIFG

By Bosch

May 16, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

RW,

“We just need to make sure it’s a lease that puts our interests first.

I sure as heck don’t want a federal Department of Drilling or the oil that comes out will cost $500.00 a barrel. At least”

Yeah, I agree with that.

I need to look into this more just out of my own curiosity, but it’s not high on my priority list of things to do right now.

I was also wondering if the oil companies own the oil, they don’t HAVE to sell it to the the US, they can sell it to whomever they want at the highest price - which wouldn’t necessarily be in the best interest of the country (unless it was specified in a lease or something like you said).

In both cases, Dept. of Drilling, or selling to the highest bidder, we’d have oil at $500/barrel - which either way isn’t good.

Oh well, just some random thoughts.

About Jed Clampett - I heard something on television the other day, that said the oil thing wasn’t true - he actually made all his money switching his car insurance to GEICO! Can you believe that?

By Just Saying...

May 16, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

@@at 4:14:

No, I’m up the crick. I can’t see myself voting for either Obama or McCain.

I’m all slimed out.

You?

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Can you imagine what the premiums must have been on that old truck to save millions by switching to GEICO?

Maybe he really saved it by taking Granny off the policy.

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Right-wing nut job in full glory May 16, 2008 4:52 PM I do think that while your stupidity has served you well thus far and while your opinions emanate from a vast morass of ignorance unrivaled by even most nutty of wingnuts, I do think that you might consider that since your credibility is now at an all-time low that you might do the conservative movement a favor by no longer represent it in any fashion whatsoever.}}}}

nut hugger: You wouldn’t know what a Conservative was even if you fell over one.

I’ll try real hard to take your suggestions that it is better to let the Islamic Fascists slaughter us than it is for us to kill them by any means possible, oh, wait a minute, no I won’t.

By Morningstar

May 16, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

Methinks I read somewhere that 90% of the Alaskan coastline is already open for drilling. I’m going to research this thoroughly, but I have more pressing matters at the moment. According to a U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY drilling in ANWR would produce only enough to satisfy our needs for about 6 months. That is if the oil is actually there. Most of what we obtain from Alaska now does not stay in the US . Japan and Korea get a big chunk. Extra, Extra read all about it!!!!!! Bye bye now….

By @@

May 16, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Just Saying:

I’m waiting to see who McCain picks for VP. If the person meets with my approval, it’ll give me some comfort in voting for McCain, but not much. Of course, it’ll only be so Hillary can hit the ground running in 2012. Then I can vote for McCain’s VP.

It’s a plan…..

I think?

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

Well, the threat of McCain/ Hickabee has been forever removed from over our heads:

{{{{‘Somebody Aimed a Gun at Him’: Huckabee Makes Shocking Obama Joke at NRA Convention}}}}

Thank you Lord.

By Wait a minute!

May 16, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

Hey, wasn’t DUH just blubbering yesterday about not fearing throat-slitting Muslim extremists?

Yet here he is today…imagining them around every corner…booga booga booga!

Sucks to be you, Ka-Ray-Zee Man!

By Bosch

May 16, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

RW,

For real. Granny was always a little intense for me - couldn’t have been a good driver.

Morningstar,

I’m with you.

Pleasant weekend!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 16, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

AJC says: “You wouldn’t know what a Conservative was even if you fell over one.”

Of course I can tell who they are. They are the people who make this country great. They listen to talk radio and watch FoxNews. They are generally Christians who apparently don’t understand what He meant. When they talk they have no facts, just baseless opinions that feel good to them even if they make no sense. They think invading Iraq makes perfect sense, even now. They are the ones who were born with an inability to think logically and rationally which makes them unique among the highest order of primates. They are anti-abortion and pro-death penalty. They say life is sacred but want to ‘kill them by any means possible” and you better hope you don’t become an unlucky ‘them.’ If you are non-white and don’t believe in Jesus your chances of being a ‘them’ increases exponentionally. I frankly think I’ve a pretty good handle on your generic Homo Ingnorantus.

As far as killing people, if the companies that I have my stock in want to make money we’d better be killing some people. I mean Halliburton and Blackwater aren’t making any cash until people are being killed so I’m all for that. My oil stocks have never done better since the invasion. The trick to corporate profits in the machinery of death business is scaring stupid people into supporting wars so that people like me can cash in. That is where you come in…and thanks you moron and the millions of others like you. We probably pushed it too far this time but with the tax cuts and the last 7 years of huge profits I’m ready to retire anyway on my blood money. People had to die so I could buy my yacht, but I could give a damn. Afterall, as Johnnie Moss once said, its immoral to let a sucker keep his money. And AJC you are the biggest sucker of them all, but again thanks for being you.

RWNJIFG

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 16, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

AJC says: “You wouldn’t know what a Conservative was even if you fell over one.”

Of course I can tell who they are. They are the people who make this country great. They listen to talk radio and watch FoxNews. They are generally Christians who apparently don’t understand what He meant. When they talk they have no facts, just baseless opinions that feel good to them even if they make no sense. They think invading Iraq makes perfect sense, even now. They are the ones who were born with an inability to think logically and rationally which makes them unique among the highest order of primates. They are anti-abortion and pro-death penalty. They say life is sacred but want to ‘kill them by any means possible” and you better hope you don’t become an unlucky ‘them.’ If you are non-white and don’t believe in Jesus your chances of being a ‘them’ increases exponentionally. I frankly think I’ve a pretty good handle on your generic Homo Ingnorantus.

As far as killing people, if the companies that I have my stock in want to make money we’d better be killing some people. I mean Halliburton and Blackwater aren’t making any cash until people are being killed so I’m all for that. My oil stocks have never done better since the invasion. The trick to corporate profits in the machinery of death business is scaring stupid people into supporting wars so that people like me can cash in. That is where you come in…and thanks you moron and the millions of others like you. We probably pushed it too far this time but with the tax cuts and the last 7 years of huge profits I’m ready to retire anyway on my blood money. People had to die so I could buy my yacht, but I could give a damn. Afterall, as Johnnie Moss once said, its immoral to let a sucker keep his money. And AJC you are the biggest sucker of them all, but again thanks for being you.

RWNJIFG

By Bosch

May 16, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

One more thing, if Paul should show up, only four hours and fourteen minutes til showtime! Enjoy it!

Pleasant weekend again!

By @@

May 16, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

(((Thank you Lord.)))

I’ll second that!!!!!!!!!!

By RW-(the original)

May 16, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

{{{{{Obama’s sentence would make sense as a matter of ordinary English usage if he said these terrorist outfits “need to be persuaded” to understand things as Obama wants them to. But Obama won’t say “persuaded” because it would sound weak and foolish. By saying “compelled” he sounds foolish, but less weak. The larger problem, of course, is that Obama’s jawboning, including his salute to the “legitimate claims” of Hamas and Hezbollah, would only persuade them they are going down precisely the alley that serves their interests.}}}}}

Second, how would Obama’s view of Lebanon translate to Iraq? Does he favor a high level of U.S. engagement to promote democracy, end corruption, and deliver services there? If not, why is it more important to be actively engaged in Lebanon? If so, will he maintain the troop levels needed to support this engagement, i.e., protect the folks who are helping “to deliver services” to the Iraqi people in order to peel off support for terrorists? Or will he leave them largely defenseless in their endeavors?

A side note, Obambi is saying that McBushie says the same things he does when he says Hamas needs to be dealt with. I don’t think Obambi understands what “deal with” means in McBushie speak.

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

nut hugger writes:

“The world used to love America, cherish us, look to us for guidance, but you neocons ruined all of that with your fighting back against Islamic terrorism. We wasted all of the good will from 9/11 that the world felt for us. We should have stopped what we were doing that day and gave American Airlines to Al Qaeda, with free fuel and permission to fly where ever they wanted and, especially, land where ever they wanted, France would still like us and would have appreciated our even handedness. But no, you had to kick a mass murdering dictator out of Iraq who was menacing the innocent countries of the Middle East. And then kill terrorists by the hundreds of thousands before they could kill women and children in the streets of America, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CONSERVATIVES?”

“GMSAFAP (Grasping myself as firmly as possible.)”

nut hugger: To this I feel no response is necessary.

By Glenn

May 16, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

AmVet, Boo! Since when have the Peeps found it worrying for a President to exhibit religious devotion, or a sense of destiny in his incumbency? Come on.

My sense is that most folks are rather suspicious of a very powerful American who evinces no sense whatever of a higher power. You’re selling short the beauty of a leader on bended-knee. You seem to feel that spiritual conviction threatens to move the leader to extremes, whereas a great many of us see such conviction as a check against extremism.

And then there’s the doctrine in question. George Bush worships a god who completely eschewed power politics. Not bad, eh? Not exactly as cuddly and pacific as the Gautama Buddha, but still, as all-powerful deities go, we could do worse.

The Christian counseling thing, however, sounds flat-out unconstitutional and quite disturbing. (Also sounds Stalinist.)

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

If you want to get a truly good idea how far liberalism has drove America into the ground, listen in to the insane babblings of one of our supposed “scientists:”

{{{{He claims that any encounter with extraterrestrial intelligence, should we go looking, is statistically likely to turn up civilizations that are far more medically advanced than ours and would have the ability to create life, so they will be indistinguishable from God.}}}}

{{{{“Science does not make belief in God obsolete, but it may make obsolete the reality of God, depending on how far we are able to push the science,” Shermer writes in the booklet.}}}}

Now try creating life from absolutely nothing like the Creator did.

You would think that such “intelligent” people would be able to look in the mirror and think “at one time there was nothing and now here I am, gee, something had to be created along the way” but no, these freaks sit around mind f’king each other until they can no longer function above the level that a turnip does.

“Global warming?”

I pray for you America.

By Robert

May 16, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Devil Man; Well, you’ve certainly had your little testicles handed to you all day long this day. A pleasure to watch a right-wing, ignorant hate-slinger like you repeatedly destroyed. Khrist, what an experience it must be to live with soimething like you. And to think that you have passed on your various sicknesses to the unfortunate offspring of your cohabitation with whatever. Do we really wonder why the last few generations are filled with such genuine stupidity and lack of knowledge? Nope. We look at them - and we see…you. The Wrong Stuff.

By Glenn

May 16, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

Why Robert and NutJob sound just like Yippies circa 1968.

By Original Glenn#1

May 16, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

“Glenn”: Funny, I can only picture both you and Bushdrunk performing one particular act “on bended knee.”

By AJC Management

May 16, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

Double @:

Just think, not too long from now we will be thanking the Lord for Obambi’s enormous blunder.

It’s actually overdue.

The vast empty and shallow cannot help themselves, it’s probably just a natural function for them.

Now if he can just hold it until Bruno is gone.

By Glenn

May 16, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

Original Glenn Numba Won,

Of course you can picture nothing else. You’re a Democrat.

By Glenn

May 16, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

What indeed? Lawsy, Lawsy, Lawsy.

Poor folks need sun. They’re soggy, is all.

By Bill

May 16, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

Teri Schiavo should still be alive, in her bed. A sad, useless vegetable. Suffering well beyond any of our comprehension, in ways equally beyond human comprehension. All for the purpose of twisted-minded “religious” freaks who pray to whatever/whivhever Pig God they choose to worship at any given moment. With Teri safely tucked away in her little bed, we can guiltlessly continue our everyday use of B-1 bombers on innocent women and children in Iraq and elsewhere. Odd, isn’t it - we never ever get a count on those hundreds of thousands of souls, as we are far too busy liberating them. God bless Murcuh!

By Glenn

May 16, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

The Pope today effectively warned Schwarzenegger over same-sex marriage (as he’d earlier warned Kennedy and Kerry on abortion).

By @@

May 16, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

I contemplated shooting Huckabee with my trusty BB gun. PING…PING ping ping ping. I’m gonna have to saw that sucker down since it’s legal to carry concealed weapons.

McCain’s exact words were “deal with them one way or another”. I’m thinking either way would be far more aggressive than anything “I’ve Got the Enemy’s Back Barack” could imagine.

By AmVet

May 16, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this

Mr. G.

I agree that most people are not “worried” about a President’s religious fervor.

Historically it has not been that much of an issue.

Only with the advent (get it?!!) of the Reagan era of cuddling up EXTREMELY closely to the obvious Christian charlatans and frauds, who are absolutely repulsive to a broad cross section of Americans, has it become more of a concern.

Your sense that most folks are rather suspicious of a very powerful American who evinces no sense whatever of a higher power was true once upon a time. And in a very big way.

IMHO, in fifty years Christianity as a political tool for bludgeoning the unfaithful will be irrelevant.

And this over emphasized role of religion in policy is undeniably becoming an outdated way of thinking.

I would suppose for an ever growing percentage of Americans who have seen this religion, much like conservative ideology, hijacked by the absolute worst possible proponents they are just about fed up with it.

Americans are leaving organized religions like Christianity and Judaism in record numbers and the zealots are one the biggest reasons for it.

So things are changing. And fast. And that scares the hell out of the faithful. They can tell their joy ride is coming to an end.

Hallelujah…

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