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Extinction
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By AJC Management
May 14, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
Ahhh, yes, don’t you just love the dimokrats?:
{{{{Racially motivated voting appeared to be running higher than usual: Two in 10 whites said the race of the candidate was a factor in their vote, second only to Mississippi. And only a third of those voters said they’d support Obama as the nominee against Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., fewer than in other primaries where the question has been asked.}}}}
And isn’t your presumptive nominee such a strong, overwhelming force outside of the America hating hovels like Berkely?
{{{{W.Va. win energizes Bruno- West Virginia results- Bruno 67%, Obambi 26%}}}}
Bwa.
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{{{{Congress voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to challenge President Bush to temporarily halt the daily shipment of thousands of barrels of oil into the government’s emergency reserve. Rep. John Dingbat (D-Mich.) declared: “Common sense would say not to take oil off the market during a time of record high prices.”}}}}
If this is “common sense” then drilling for our own oil would be a stroke of genius.
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{{{{A former Kuwaiti detainee at the US camp at Guantanamo Bay carried out a recent suicide bombing in northern Iraq, the US military has said.}}}}
{{{{A spokesman for US Central Command told the Associated Press that Abdullah al-Ajmi took part in an attack in Mosul on 29 April that killed several people.}}}}
The libs whine until the savages are released from their cages back into society, where, surprise, surprise, they kill again.
And then the Urinal uses the story of the same bombing that they caused to whine about America.
A viscous pinko circle jerk.
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Looks like the libs have their story straight now and their hacks at the AJC have carried forth the water:
{{{{House holds hearings on voting blunder- Innocent mistake? A vote last August on an agriculture spending bill went awry.-Urinal}}}}
It’s thee blunder, I tells ya!
Just like when Klintoon splooged on the fat Jewish chick or Sandy Bergler stuffed the 9/11 Klintoon failure evidence up his rear end, blunder, yeah.
By w00t
May 14, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this
ha, pwnd!
but is that a jesusorusrex?
better be careful, Andy might use this cartoon as proof that people and dinosaurs lived together at the same time.
By Shawny
May 14, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this
the GOP has certainly lost their way and have paid for it in recent elections. Sad thing is, not much has changed…business as usual. They will probably pay a little more in the fall.
But the dems have lost their way as way. Long gone are the Sam Nunns, Daniel Patrick Moynihans, etc. The wacko left is in control. What a mess the system is in now. Unfortunately, money talks and buys politicians.
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
Extinction? Okay, let’s look at the real dinosaurs in this race, Obama and Clinton. They are hardly on the cutting edge of history, but rather on the precipice, ready to jump right off. They are advocating more government, more regulation, more taxation, and playing race cards left and left. They cannot do anything right, pun intended.
Hillary advocates outright nationalization of health care. She advocates confiscation of profits from the oil companies and forced investments. They both advocate corporate welfare and support a farm bill that even George W. Bush says is welfare for corporate farmers who don’t need it. These are all policies which have crippled the economies of western European nations for the last fifty years. Productivity in France, Germany, Itlay, Britain, Spain, Holland, Belgium, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland has shown almost no growth over the last decade. Unemployment is STUCK at around 10% in most of these countries and that figure does not even include the massive numbers of people who are permanently on the public dole.
Hillary is also advocating a guaranteed minimum income. I ask this question, with a guaranteed minimum income, why would you expect the chronically lazy in a society to work. Some folks have to have a lot of incentive to get out there and to things. You may scoff, but ask the Dutch. Up to 50% of the working age population is on some kind of public assistance!
Freedom and free markets are never out of date. And by the way, the best genetic evidence we have (you can check out almost any of the science sites on this one, just google it) says that dinosaurs are not extinct. They just took to the skies. We call them BIRDS.
By AJC Management
May 14, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this
{{{{The question of what causes climate change — talk of “tackling climate change” is incoherent because climate is always changing — is complicated. So almost no one has the time, talent, or inclination to pick through all the assertions (hypotheses) and compare them with the facts (evidence) to determine who’s telling the truth. So the cynical activists and the hysterics can make the most preposterous claims, sure in the knowledge that journalists — most of whom are so poorly educated in science they wouldn’t know the scientific method from the rhythm method, and in any case just want something sensational for page one — won’t call them on it.}}}}
Word up.
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this
By the way, I mentioned Clinton’s positions because I really don’t know exactly what Obama’s are except that he agrees with Mrs. Clinton a lot in the debates and he gives no concrete details about anything.
By w00t
May 14, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
tehdevil… all I see in your post is wedge, wedge, wedge, wedge.
Do we really need to bring up McCain and all of his corporate and Military-Industrial-Complex welfare?
The difference between the US and most of Europe is that they actually care about their people while our government on the other hand spits in the people’s faces as the IRS takes their money.
GDP per country
Unemployment Rates
You lost your argument.
By N-GA
May 14, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
Devil,
A guaranteed minimum wage doesn’t mean a guaranteed job. Is Hillary guaranteeing every American a job?
And “confisticating profits” is usually called “paying taxes”.
And the “free market” works pretty well…sometimes. Kinda like the “unregulated” airline industry (Eastern, TWA, Pan Am, etc.). They just can’t declare bankruptcy fast enough. They then seek “protection from their creditors”; that’s something the GOP pretty much took away from the average American voter.
Then there are the 3 bank failures so far this year, with many more to come. So many more examples, but so little space on the blog. The needs of corporate America are more important than the needs of the voters. That must be because those corporate lobbyists really know how to spread the money around. Maybe that’s why Obama wants to change things.
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
W00t,
Jesushorses, jesushorses.
Mr. Devil,
You seriously call Obama and Clinton dinosaurs when the R candidate is 107 and can barely talk?
100% of Americans are on some kind of public assistance.
I’ve heard the argument that dinosaurs are birds, lets see, yeah, I remember now, it was Sam Neill in Jurassic Park.
Can you name one government assistance program for the chronically lazy? After all, you are talking rather literally today.
By @@
May 14, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
and you conveniently ignore the “rex” of the Democrats’ nomination process? Talk about extinct?
Everytime I hear the the numbers discussed, the left-leaning pundits reply…..”but the super delegate!!!”
So much for the American voter, eh ml?
How in the heck did the dems let their nomination process get so screwed up?
Why it was as recently as 2000 that they were screaming “Let every vote be counted!” The party changes the rules and “some” voters say…..
Okey Dopey!
I say DOWN WITH THE FAR-LEFT AND UP WITH THE BLUE DOGS!
Change is on the way, but it won’t be “Marxed” with Obamaniacs.
By mm
May 14, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
That looks like a Lamosore@ss.
Speaking of extinction:
Dem beats Republican in a race that may predict November
By RB from Gwinnett
May 14, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
Question for you financially challenged socialists…
When you tax the “windfall” profits of the oil companies, what will the result be?
A) They will tell shareholders, “sorry, we just won’t be able to give you a return on your investment. You lose!”
B) They will raise prices to cover the additional taxes JUST LIKE THEY ALREADY DO TO COVER THE 40+% TAXES THEY’RE ALREADY PAYING.
Are you dunces really that stupid?
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
N-GA,
I think I read yesterday where Saxby Chambliss “authored” the latest Farm Bill - and that a big chunk of his campaign money comes from Agribusiness corporations.
By RB from Gwinnett
May 14, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Question for you financially challenged socialists…
When you tax the “windfall” profits of the oil companies, what will the result be?
A) They will tell shareholders, “sorry, we just won’t be able to give you a return on your investment. You lose!”
B) They will raise prices to cover the additional taxes JUST LIKE THEY ALREADY DO TO COVER THE 40+% TAXES THEY’RE ALREADY PAYING.
Are you dunces really that stupid?
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
RB and Mr. Devil,
This whole notion you have that businesses don’t pay taxes, isn’t it true, by your logic, that businesses don’t pay for anything? They just ask the government to help them not pay for less things?
By AJC Management
May 14, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
{{{{This veneration of diversity is a hollow religion that embraces only those beliefs that are favored by the few, yet excludes that which should be common to all; the public worship of their Creator. This is nicely illustrated by gay activist Kim Welter who scolds, “It is unfortunate that someone who works in Human Resources for the University of Toledo would publicly express beliefs more appropriate for her place of worship.”}}}}
{{{{TIME WAS, OF COURSE, when the free and open exchange of ideas, religious or otherwise, was celebrated not only on colleges campuses, but everywhere else, including various taverns where the idea of American independence grew.}}}}
{{{{Those on the far left have managed to erase from the minds of most of our citizens the fact that our nation was founded on the fundamental principle that we are “endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights,” and that our government was formed to “secure these rights.” Any attempt at separating one’s religious convictions from his duties as a citizen would have been repulsive to any American up until a few short decades ago.}}}}
It is still repulsive.
We have to accept what ever sicko depraved disgusting thing that the left wants to do to themselves but they don’t have to accept the worship of Christ?
Sick.
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
RB,
“A) They will tell shareholders, “sorry, we just won’t be able to give you a return on your investment. You lose!””
Yes. It’s called investing, which has it’s risks that people who invest know about up front. It’s called capitalism.
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
I meant to write “not pay for MORE things.” Sorry.
By @@
May 14, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
mm @ 8:48:
(((Childers insists he didn’t ask for Obama’s support and he deflected a question of whether he would accept his endorsement.)))
(((“The only pastors that should be relevant in this race are ——>my pastor and the countless church leaders across North Mississippi that are the backbone of our communities,” Childers said.<——)))
(((He described Wright’s comments as ——>”outrageous” and “truly unacceptable.”<——)))
(((“But this race is not about a senator from Illinois or a pastor from Chicago,” he added. “It’s about the people of Mississippi. It’s about right and wrong.)))
(((“Let me tell you what kind of endorsements we’re looking for … endorsements from ——>the working people of North Mississippi, working families,”<—— Childers told a Memphis TV station.)))
(((Childers is pro-life and pro-gun rights. He’s a Blue Dog.)))
Now I’m one of those hard-working Americans mm. My day is about to begin. Feel free to spend YOUR DAY blogging for Obama.
Do you “call in sick” everday like Obama’s campaign staff has instructed you do?
By Midori
May 14, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
Stunned By Loss in Mississippi By Reid Wilson
In a major blow to national Republicans, a Mississippi congressional seat that once voted for President Bush by a twenty-five point margin elected a Democrat on Tuesday. Prentiss County Chancery Clerk Travis Childers beat out Republican candidate Greg Davis, the mayor of Southaven, by a 54%-46% margin, a spread that several Republican strategists on Capitol Hill characterized as a startling wake-up call for a party in dire straits.
In my best Nelson Muntz voice: HA, HA!!!
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
Bosch - you continue to embarass yourself, but like Rev. Wrong, you either don’t know it or don’t care. The fact is that taxes are expenses passed on to the consumer. They are part of the cost of doing business and they force businesses to raise prices, so consumers have to pay the tax. Direct or indirect, they still pay.
Have you ever actually read a book on economics? Read Adam Smith, or better yet, pick up a book by Milton Friedman (Nobel Prize Laureate).
Let’s look at an example. Cigarets cost only a fraction of the price of a pack to produce. However, in some places they are as much as $7.50 a pack. This price is the result of taxes. The government has done this because they know that it will discourage the smoking of the ‘pipe weed’ as Tolkien called it. The CONSUMERS are paying this tax because the tobacco companies have to pass this on to the consumers or just go out of business.
The same is true of the tax on gasoline. Also, explain to me why, in January of 2006, the price of gasoline went down to $2 a gallon? I will answer my own question. It went down because the oil companies passed their savings in crude oil an lower refining costs on to the consumer. When refining costs and crude oil prices went back up, so did the price at the pump.
I know all of this because I actually followed the futures market every day. I still do.
Educate yourself.
By AMBER ALERT
May 14, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
In what has historically been one of the safest Dinosaur congressional districts in the country, Democrat Travis Childers won the Mississippi special election tonight, beating Dinosaur Greg Davis.
Childers’ win is significant for the Democrats, because it is the third Congressional seat they have picked up from the Dinosaurs in special elections this year.
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
A business wants to make a profit margin. To get there they add up all their costs of doing business and then set the price of their product at a point that takes into account all those costs and then adds the profit margin. One of those costs is the amount of tax they pay which is why people say businesses don’t pay taxes. Now it’s possible to make the costs so high through taxes that a company can no longer sell it’s products at a profit.
The first thing a business does at that point is decide if they can cut costs elsewhere to remain profitable. The first and easiest place to cut costs is to eliminate personnel. If you can’t cut enough there the business may want to look at relocating to a country with more favorable tax treatment or go out of business altogether.
These are all things Democrats tell you they want to prevent, but there very policies cause the problem.
By AJC Management
May 14, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
{{{{The truce suggests, instead, that Iran has grudgingly come to respect Mr. Maliki as a serious opponent. Having invested itself so heavily in Mr. Sadr’s success, Tehran had little reason to suddenly lend its diplomatic offices unless it felt the Mahdi Army was on the verge of defeat. Last week’s truce may have postponed that moment, but there’s little doubt Mr. Sadr’s movement has suffered an embarrassing defeat.}}}}
{{{{In the last year we were told first that the surge was a military failure, and later that it was a military success but that Iraq’s political class had not lived up to its end of the bargain. In fact, just as surge supporters said, the Iraqis have become more confident and effective the more they have become convinced that the U.S. was not going to cut and run.}}}}
Is it any wonder that Hamas has endorsed Obambi, hahahaha?
By mm
May 14, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
Does anyone actually feel “smarter” after reading Devil’s posts?
Because he tells us everyday how much smarter he is than everyone else. Must have a BS degree.
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Devil,
Blah, blah, blah, so in other words, yes, businesses don’t pay for anything, they just ask the government to not pay for MORE things.
RW,
Democrat’s policies cause the problems? I think there’s plenty of blame for both parties. Let’s be fair.
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
One has to marvel at the lunacy of ml’s moonbat(ic)s®. A Democrat like Travis Childers getting elected is your worst nightmare. He and others like him are going to help swell your numbers to the point that you can no longer sell the excuse that you can’t govern because of evil Republicans not playing nice, but he’s also the kind of Democrat that will never help you enact your cradle to grave nanny state.
Democrats would be much better off if the Republican had won that race. Unless, of course, your Democrat leaders don’t really care about getting anything done, they just want the personal perks that come with majority status. In other words, playing you like a fool. Again.
By RB from Gwinnett
May 14, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
By Bosch 8:58 AM
Bosch, you just don’t seem to get it. The people running the oil companies are charged with returning profits to their OWNERS, the SHAREHOLDERS. They will do whatever is necessary to make that happen. It may be rasing prices, or it may be cutting jobs(more liberal whining), but it will happen. 40% of Americans 401K accounts own oil stocks. If you and the Mrs have a 401K plan, YOU are likely one of the owners of big oil. As devil says, you really need to educate yourself on how economics works before you go voting for sheer stupidity like this windfall profit tax.
BTW, who exactly is it who’s going to decide which companies are allowed to make how much profit? Isn’t food necessary too? Is Starbucks food? What are their margins? Is McDonalds food? Are their profits excessive? Are their profits higher than the oil companies?
You dunces need to stop listening to sound bites created to get your vote and start thinking about the real application of this crap your party is running on. At least some of us realize it’s nothing more than vote buying rhetoric and will never be acted on past election day. BECAUSE IT’S STUPID!!!
By RB from Gwinnett
May 14, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
By Bosch 8:58 AM
Bosch, you just don’t seem to get it. The people running the oil companies are charged with returning profits to their OWNERS, the SHAREHOLDERS. They will do whatever is necessary to make that happen. It may be rasing prices, or it may be cutting jobs(more liberal whining), but it will happen. 40% of Americans 401K accounts own oil stocks. If you and the Mrs have a 401K plan, YOU are likely one of the owners of big oil. As devil says, you really need to educate yourself on how economics works before you go voting for sheer stupidity like this windfall profit tax.
BTW, who exactly is it who’s going to decide which companies are allowed to make how much profit? Isn’t food necessary too? Is Starbucks food? What are their margins? Is McDonalds food? Are their profits excessive? Are their profits higher than the oil companies?
You dunces need to stop listening to sound bites created to get your vote and start thinking about the real application of this crap your party is running on. At least some of us realize it’s nothing more than vote buying rhetoric and will never be acted on past election day. BECAUSE IT’S STUPID!!!
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
Which party is advocating for a “windfall” profits tax?
Can you ever debate on point? Of course there’s blame for all sorts of things to go around for all political parties, but the discussion was over TAX and how TAX affects prices and jobs.
By Aaron
May 14, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
When dems aren’t handing out our tax dollars in welfare giveaways, they’re using it to fatten the porkers in their home states.
If you wonder why urban Democrats would vote for this rural giveaway, the answer is they have been bought off with roughly $10 billion in extra funding for food stamps and nutrition welfare programs. Someone should tell them that their constituents might not need this cash if the farm bill didn’t help keep food prices high. And let’s not forget the Blue Dog Democrats who are supposed to be spending hawks. The farm bill busts the budget caps by at least $10 billion, but the Blue Dogs get $5.9 billion in handouts for their districts. So they will put their fiscal sermonizing on hold and vote “aye.”
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
SSDD for the GOP’s dispirited neo-conmen and women.
Though Midori has already made note of it, it bears repeating.
In a state which is the very epitome of backwardness and ignorance, (Or have they been replaced by Georgia?) even the “faithful” and the “base” have apparently given up on the inept farce that is the Republican Party.
And this latest defeat is in a district that voted over 60% for King George II in 2004. (Hence the adjectives in the previous paragraph.)
But alas for the now desperate faux conservatives (how else can one interpret the moronic spin that these victories are in some way a bad thing for the non neo-cons?!), their well-deserved disaster continues to snowball, as the long-term and once-entrenched Bushbots now suffer their third consecutive humiliating loss in recent weeks.
With nary a victory in sight.
And it is obvious that Boehner’s Boys are powerless to change the course of the near certain debacle that is to come.
Is there a theme here?
Oh yeah!
Republican Bloodbath, Part Deux. Coming to an election near you this November.
By DUBYA
May 14, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
DUBYA would be content w either Clinton or Obama. But the Cracker Factor displayed in W VA reveals how far the rancid Murcun voting masses have NOT come. Reason to fear a repeat of such idiocy in the Fall. God bluss Murcuh. Allah Akbar.
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
239,062 to 91,652 OUCH!
I thought Obambi had locked this thing up?
Later!
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
RW,
As always, it’s just a matter of different philosophies. I think windfall profit tax to some degree wouldn’t hurt, but that’s just the socialist in me. In reality, it would create more job losses and companies moving business overseas. It’s just a pipe dream of mine for businesses to have some sense of ethics, I know, just the bleeding liberal heart at work.
Got to take the mutt to the vet. Later.
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
mm - I am probably not necessarily smarter than you (although that is likely after reading that last post), but I will say that I am better EDUCATED than you on certain matters. I will not try to discuss higher math - I hated even algebra in school - or nuclear physics. However, what I do know, I know quite well. As Ronald Reagan said, it’s not so much what liberals know, it’s just that so much of what they know is just not so.
You will need to come up with something better than that last post to prove that I am wrong about anything I wrote. You might actually do a little fact checking, Miss Bite Sized Candy.
By Ben Nelms
May 14, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
. fast facts
So what’s a Blue Dog?
The Blue Dog Coalition consists of 47 moderate to conservative Democratic members of the U.S. House. Two are from Florida. It was founded just over a decade ago. The group’s name is a twist on “Yellow Dog Democrat,” the term for people so loyal to the party they’d vote for a yellow dog if it was on the ballot as a Democrat. Members chose “Blue Dog” because they felt they had been “choked blue” by the liberal elements of their party.
“Most of us represent districts that are in large part independent, moderate districts,” said Rep. Allen Boyd, a Blue Dog co-chairman from Monticello, near Tallahassee, who remains uncommitted.
“Some of them have a real good, heavy Republican bent. A lot of them are districts that President Bush won. And in an election, there’s no mandate to make a decision until the election comes about.”
The antics have left some Blue Dogs wincing.
“You don’t want to do anything that’s just not natural, whether it’s taking a shot or going bowling,” Mahoney said. “There’s one group of people you can’t kid, and that’s rural America. People out in Okeechobee and Highland counties, they see phony a mile away. You either play there or you don’t.”
They don’t want to hook their political wagons to dem phoneys just yet. Smart move. Let the conservative voters decide.
By Georgia74
May 14, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
mm, The Devil You say is not a him.
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Bosch - that only works if being a bleeding heart liberal means that it is okay just to throw the laws of economics out of the window. The fact is that people are in business to make money. It is not a matter of ethics. Ethics have to do with being HONEST. In this case, the right thing is to do what is in the best holders of the shareholders, which in this case includes a bunch of people, as RB said, who are little guys with 401ks.
You really do need to educate yourself.
By AJC Management
May 14, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
{{{{By mm May 14, 2008 9:29 AM Does anyone actually feel “smarter” after reading Devil’s posts?}}}}
mmoron: If I were you, I would not be setting myself up as judge and arbitrator of other people’s intelligence.
Trust me on this one.
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RW: It’s all about power.
All you have to do is mine the vast treasure trove of archives from the pre 2006 elections for all of the pinkos bleating about borrowing, spending and China “owning us” and then compare it to the farm bill monstrosity cobbled together by the current dimokrat controlled Congress, and you’ll have plenty of proof of how full of sh!t these liberals really are.
It doesn’t even border on the ridiculous anymore, they have mounted a full scale assault, planted their flags and have totally annexed ridiculous.
We’ll be pointing all this out at the right time.
By getalife
May 14, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
gop are 0 for 3 in the reddest districts in this country.
Its the change they deserve.
Losers.
They should go the way of the whig party.
By Goldie
May 14, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
LMAO — the GOP (Gang O’ Perverts) likes to claim that “the free market” will solve our economic problems… that is, until they get caught giving out welfare benefits to their favorite corporations like Exxon and Bear Stearns. Only the 28% Club-ers continue to believe in your “voodoo economics” — and 28% is not a winner in November!
By Gary
May 14, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Correct, Dubya. Repug dark energy infects the nation’s bloodstream. We still have a hateful religious right that, despite nicely fracturing itself over the fact that certain chunks of it aren’t hateful enough toward women and gays and sex and non-Christian beliefs, still freaks out when kids play dress up, still horrified by the notion of a black or female president, still believes homosexuality is an abomination, Jesus spoke perfect English, stem cells have feelings, and the vagina is Satan’s playground. Thanks to Drunkbush’s disastrous economics, we now have the largest deficit in history, coupled with the widest gap ever between ultra-rich and the poor, and one must hope to God that no family member gets sick this month and that nothing goes wrong with the Chevy truck. Meanwhile the feral neocon pigs are still rooting in what’s left of the garden. And Drunkbush is still taking these remaing miserable months of his disastrous, failed presidency to hammer a few more nails into the coffin of the sick economy, the environment, the soul of the nation. A good cross section of his supportive freaks can be found right here on this little blog. Read it - and puke.
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Ben,
Good post.
But there is one aspect of it that seems a tad unbelievable - the assertion that it is rural America best qualified to spot a phony.
How can one square that with the fact that they voted in huge percentages for the greatest phony of all time - GWB.
It doesn’t add up, unless you consider their definition of the word “phony” needs some serious adjusting.
What this country could use to ameliorate the devastation wrought over the past 8 years are some conservative Democrats - think Sam Nunn (GA), David Boren (OK), Ben Nelson (NE), Susan Collins (ME) and Joe Lieberman (CT) and NOT that nut-job embarrassment Shrill Zell Miller - and some liberal/moderate Republicans such as John McCain (AZ) and Lincoln Chafee (RI), to really step up to the plate, build a working concensus and to actually get bipartisan important work done.
In other words to stop f&cking around with insignificant wedge issues and to drastically change the status quo in Washington.
But no one in their right mind is holding their breath…
By AJC Management
May 14, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
You think the GOP has problems?:
{{{{In a stark rejection of Obama in a state Bill Clinton carried in 1992 and 1996, almost half of the Democratic primary voters — typically the most partisan Democrats in a state — said they’d vote for Republican John McCain rather than Obama in November.}}}}
Bwa.
By mm
May 14, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Devil,
All you know is how to spout the tired old cliches of the GOP. You seem to know history pretty well because you are stuck in the past.
Believe me I know how business works. You don’t have to explain it to me. Just because a Dem politician mentions a windfall profit tax doesn’t mean all of the Democratic voters support it.
See, that’s the difference between Democrats and Independants vs. Republicans. Only Republicans are lock-step sheep that go along with any and all ideas a politician of their party comes up with.
You truly show that you are uneducated when you continually lump all non-GOP voters into one basket.
By Morningstar
May 14, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
May 14, 2008 9:29 AM Does anyone actually feel “smarter” after reading Devil’s posts? Must have a BS degree.
It’s a BS degree, but not the same type many of us received at university.
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Goldie - The problem with that kind of poll is that it is inane. I would like to see the question and learn the methodology before I put much credence in that poll. However, the result matters not. A fact is a fact is a fact, to misquote Gertrude Stein. Let’s try to repeal the law of gravity. I really hate being Earth bound.
The legend is that most people did not believe the Wright Brothers had really flown. My Great-grandfather was convinced that someone was in that big box the first time he heard a radio broadcast at the courthouse in Waycross, GA.
For years the Soviet Union tried to turn the laws of economics on their heads and it didn’t work. That’s why they are called laws. They are the natural consequences of certain actions. You drop an apple and it falls to the ground. You tax something and it becomes more expensive.
I think what you are really hoping for is to foment a violent revolution. The French monarchy fell largely because of a TAX. That tax raised the price of an essential commodity to an unaffordable level, and the peasants finally decided to join that venal middle class and rebel against the government which wanted to control their economic and social behavior through taxation.
The name of the tax was the ‘gabelle’. Can you tell me what was being taxed? I will give you a hint - Gandhi got in trouble over that one too.
By Devastator
May 14, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
STERLING HEIGHTS, Mich. - Hours after being routed by Hillary Rodham Clinton in West Virginia, Barack Obama picked up two more superdelegates, offering fresh recognition from Democratic leaders of his inevitable nomination.
An embattled Clinton is urging party leaders to take a hard look at West Virginia, which she won with 67 percent of the vote. But her victory did little if anything to knock Obama off stride as he approaches the delegate totals needed to give him the presidential nomination.
It did, however, expose in stark terms his disadvantage with blue-collar voters, fueling Clinton’s last-gasp argument to party VIPs that she’s the Democrat with broad appeal against Republican John McCain.
“Choose who you believe will make the strongest candidate in the fall,” she said at her Charleston rally in a pitch aimed at superdelegates. She was returning to Washington to meet Wednesday with some of them.
“The White House is won in the swing states,” she said, “and I am winning the swing states.”
Obama isn’t ceding the latter point.
His campaign announced his pickup Wednesday of two superdelegates: Rep. Peter Visclosky of Indiana and Democrats Abroad chair Christine Schon Marques.
Also endorsing Obama were three former Securities and Exchange Commission chairmen — William Donaldson, David Ruder, and Arthur Levitt Jr., who was appointed by former President Clinton. The campaign released a joint statement by the former SEC chiefs, well as former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, that praised Obama’s “positive leadership and judgment” on economic issues.
“We are aware of the reasoned approach Mr. Obama has taken in analyzing the current financial crisis and the need for balanced regulatory reform,” the statement said. “We believe that such a constructive approach can be extended broadly in the economic area as well as elsewhere.”
Obama was campaigning Wednesday in Michigan, keenly aware of the need to recapture the unifying promise of his earlier primary and caucus wins, which transcended geography, parties and even racial divisions at times.
Specifically, he arranged to visit workers at a Chrysler factory in Macomb County, bellwether of bellwethers, and rally in Grand Rapids.
“This is our chance to build a new majority of Democrats and independents and Republicans,&
By mm
May 14, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Duh,
I wouldn’t be throwing around the word moron if I were you.
You wake up every morning aroused by the fact you will be the first poster on this blog. Then you post cherry picked sentences and paragraphs and put your looney spin on them.
Your GOP induced hatred is clear for all to see.
When the GOP gets destroyed in November you will surely go off the deep end.
Get a life.
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
BTW - it is a complete and total bag of b.s. to start screaming about corporate welfare and then cite tax breaks as corporate welfare. They are two different things. That is what has happened so much lately in the debate about oil prices and the oil companies. They do receive some tax breaks and tax credits. They shouldn’t get taxed at all.
However, the real corporate welfare is in agriculture. The government buys surplus milk (famous government cheese), keeping the price high and creating an artificial surplus. The same goes for peanuts, hogs, corn, wheat and sugar. The funny thing is that none of these crops is in any kind of ‘danger’ and the farmers are doing quite well.
There are a few old-fashioned family farms, but they are quite rare and the ‘poor’ farmer really does not exist, at least not in the way he existed in 1930.
The really funny thing is that subsidies - price support programs - in the end actually helped put the little guy out of business and have raised costs for consumers because they stifled competition and the government set artificial price floors, not allowing the market to work.
Please name some real government subsidies and I will oppose them as well. But tax ‘breaks’ are only beneficial in the end to everybody.
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
“You think the GOP has problems?”
Only a few and dwindling EXCEPTIONALLY blind neo-cons don’t.
The maverick RINO’s chances at winning the Oval Office do not change that even the tiniest bit.
He is the best thing to happen to the GOP in a VERY, VERY long time.
And the ongoing nationwide Republican slaughter is just warming up now. And their humiliating debacle is going to be so VERY entertaining to watch.
And the demise of their incredibly stupid agenda of denying man-induced global warming and evolution (and science in general), of ill-advised, and unprepared unilateral preemptive military attacks, of utterly botched invasions and occupations, of corruption and scandals at levels never before seen, of sycophants and unbridled cronyism, of spending OUR money at abominable levels, of statesmanship by third rate amateurs, of unimaginable hubris and even contempt for the average American and of relying upon “Christian” crack pots and frauds is at hand.
And the nation rejoices…
By Devastator
May 14, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
Clinton and her Surrogates Need to End This Now and Stop the Lying!
SUSA & PPP: “Hard-Working White” Oregon is Solid Obama Country In successive days, the two most repsected pollsters in the country confirm that Oregon, the Great NW Battleground state, is Solid Obama Country. On a day that so much will be made about Working Class Whites in West Virginia, Lets preview the Exit Door for Clinton that is Oregon, a state that is 90.5% White.
NEW PPP Topline Results
Obama: 53% Clinton: 39%
Among White Voters
Obama: 52% Clinton: 41%
Among Women Voters
Obama: 48% Clinton: 45%
Obama has also erased any perceptions of Weakness amongst Asians and Hispanics, winning both groups by 57% and 58% respectively. SUSA after the jump.
SUSA’s sample doesn’t even register an African American Grouping. PPP did poll 3% African American.
In SUSA’s Polling it’s again the same story.
No Problem for Obama with Whites No Problem for Obama with Women
Topline Obama: 54% Clinton: 43%
Women Obama: 52% Clinton: 45%
Whites: Obama; 55% Clinton: 42%
Regional: Non-Portland (Rest of the State & all Rural) Obama: 57% Clinton: 39%
These results confirm that Barack Obama maintains growing strength in the “Western Rectangle”, the place where Obama has actually won this primary, among whites, and Women, and Rural Voters/Urban Voters alike.
John McCain is in the Northwest these last two days pushing Environment. He’s making a hard play for the region which was solid Kerry in 2004. There are competitive House and Senate seats in both states, however Clinton is weak in both states.
Poblano of 538 current projects each state as follows:
Oregon:
Obama +9.1 vs. McCain ~ 89.1% Probability of Victory Clinton +0.9 vs. McCain ~ 55% Probability of Victory
Washington: Obama +9.3 vs. McCain ~ 90.1% Probability of Victory Clinton +0.0 vs. McCain ~ 49.6% Probability of Victory
Combined, these two states with 18 Electorial votes far outweighs the 5 Electoral Votes of West Virginia Clinton claims are so so very vital…
By RB from Gwinnett
May 14, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
By mm 11:06 AM
{{{Only Republicans are lock-step sheep that go along with any and all ideas a politician of their party comes up with.}}}
You accuse someone of blanket statements and then turn around and do the EXACT SAME THING.
If any of you socialists were paying attention, you would know there are quite a few issues the R base is furious with W about. He’s been a huge dissapointment to us on financial issues and others who are following in his path are being hung out to dry by the party regulars. Just look at the reaction to McCain’s global warming comments. You see “lock step” in that? Pay attention.
Also, it would be good for you to pay attention to what’s happening in the european countries your socialist agendas are emulating. The people are sick of you. They’re getting killed in the world economy and they’re throwing the liberals out with the bath water in favor of CONSERVATIVES. But you’ll keep dragging us in the toilet anyway thinking somehow your version of socialism will turn out different.
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
RB - your 11:40 is, of course, completely correct. However, that is the beauty of the arrogance of the elitist left. They are so sure that the ‘wrong people’ have tried these ‘great’ ideas. They truly believe that they are smart enough to make them work.
As it has been said so often - there is none so blind as he who will not see. And these folks are as blind as cave fish!!
By @@
May 14, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
:-OMGoodness! Government taxed “the salt of the earth”? I do so enjoy the opportunity to learn new things here.
The Gabelle Tax:
(((The British monarchy supported itself with high salt taxes, leading to a bustling black market for the white crystal. In 1785, the earl of Dundonald wrote that every year in England, 10,000 people were arrested for salt smuggling. Protesting British rule in 1930, Mahatma Ghandi led a 200-mile march to the Arabian Ocean to collect untaxed salt for India’s poor.)))
Thank you Mr. Devil @ 11:13!
Off early (last week of school) and onto my second, non-paying endeavor.
I am, however, receiving personal gratification (so shoot me) which can’t be taxed.
Yay!
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
RB to further bolster your brilliant 11:40 post, let’s look at what has been happening in Europe since 2006. In 2006 we elected a left wing led Congress. Economically, things have not improved here. Since 2006 the conservatives have won control of the governments in SWEDEN, FRANCE, GERMANY and ITALY. The Labour party just suffered its worst defeat EVER in local elections in BRITAIN. CANADA has also elected a conservative government, as has Mexico.
It seems that our allies are all seeing the beauty of free markets, because that is what all of these parties ran on. The libs on this blog are just blind to the facts. They want what has been rejected in most of Europe because it FAILED.
I guess they will just go on trying that which does not work, kind of like the alchemists!
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
Morningstar - I received a BA in History at Presbyterian College. My QPA in my field was 3.7. Just to let you know.
By By the way
May 14, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
After the last 7.3 years I think it highly logical to vote for whatever is the most opposite to the pathetic failures governing today. Con-servative Resmuglicanism is choking to death on its own filth. Speaking of choking, it seeems that the TRUTH fish is choking on the Darwin fish.
By Marty
May 14, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Comparing European conservatives to US conservatives is the stupidest thing I have read on this blog. European conservatives are probably to the left of US liberals.
How many of these new “conservative” European governments overturned things like socialized medicine? Mandatory minimum vacations? Guaranteed jobs? How many sent troops to Iraq?
Name one thing they have done that would make an American conservative proud.
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
Devestator - you are right about one thing and one thing only. Obama will win. He will win not because he is the best candidate, but because he has the backing of the vast majority of the media, press, perveyors of opinion who pass it off as news. He will even win in November. He will be Jimmy II. The Demoncrats will come in with their radical left-wing Speaker, their inept Senate Majority Leader and a race baiting President. We will reap whirlwind. We will have inflation that will curl your teeth, gas lines down the street, unrest in the streets and a foreign policy mess. The Republicans will sweep the midterm elections in 2010, gaining 50+ seats in the House and 5-8 in the Senate. The Democrats will be left with only a handful of governorships and legislatures. Then will come 2012. It will be like 1980. Your worst nightmare will come true - can you say President Newt Gingrich without choking to death?
By George Washington
May 14, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
RB you idiot: in a world severely short of light sweet crude oil, big oil will simple divert its foreign production sharing oil to other countries like China, India, etc. At some point in the future, the dollar will no longer be able to buy light sweet crude on the world market…
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Marty - you don’t know many European conservatives do you? Your assertion does not hold much water when it comes to economics. You might have an argument about social issues, but we are talking economics here. Nice try, but you lose.
By Fly_on_the_Wall
May 14, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
I wanted to toss in a comment on the ‘tax’ discussion that has been going on today. Normally I would agree that windfall taxes won’t do any good BUT when a group of companies such as Oil or Agribusiness are able to get the government to change the laws/rules in their favor, to add ‘loopholes’ in the tax codes, to look the other way on environmental/safety/monopoly pricing I then take issue when someone says that these same companies pay their fair share or that they are operating within a ‘free market’. It isn’t a ‘free market’ if they are influencing government at all levels.
By Marty
May 14, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Economic issues?
Like defense spending? National debt? Regulated employment? Mass transit? Taxation?
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Marty,
You need an amen for that post. AMEN!
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
Fly on the Wall,
I’ll give you an AMEN too.
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
Oh, sorry, George Washington, you too:
Amen.
Not much for debating/arguing/writing today, I have a dog with a dislocated leg, poor guy.
Later.
By Midori
May 14, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
Now it all makes perfect sense — I should have known!!!
I could smell her clear through the keyboard!!!
And she actually IS a devil!!!
By Betty
May 14, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
The Devil You Say is one of the best posters here, by far. Concise, always on point. Delivered in a style that masters her intelligent thought.
Un-friggen-beleivable! You Rock ‘The Devil You Say!’ Keep up the good work…is what I say!
By RB from Gwinnett
May 14, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
By Flyonthe_Wall 12:55 PM
So, now in addition to the “department of windfall profit taxation”, we add to their duties a study of any tax loopholes they may have lobbied for and any environmental regulations they’ve coaxed the EPA into ignoring. If you have windfall profits but don’t have loopholes, do you get taxed or not? And what was that windfall profit margin again? Give us a number of what profit margin you think crosses the line between acceptable and “windfall”.
You people are on the border between socializm and communizm with this line of crap. Pathetic.
By RB from Gwinnett
May 14, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
By Flyonthe_Wall 12:55 PM
So, now in addition to the “department of windfall profit taxation”, we add to their duties a study of any tax loopholes they may have lobbied for and any environmental regulations they’ve coaxed the EPA into ignoring. If you have windfall profits but don’t have loopholes, do you get taxed or not? And what was that windfall profit margin again? Give us a number of what profit margin you think crosses the line between acceptable and “windfall”.
You people are on the border between socializm and communizm with this line of crap. Pathetic.
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Parrot,
When you think you smell someone through the keyboard it might be time to go wash up.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Susan Collins, the moderate Republican Senator from Maine, has been described on this blog as both a neocon and a Democrat in the past three weeks. Oddly, it’s been Blowhard offering both descriptions.
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
RW,
Susan Collins along with her kick a* Senate partner the Honorable Ms. Snowe are simply goddesses.
By Fly_on_the_Wall
May 14, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
I wanted to toss in a comment on the ‘tax’ discussion that has been going on today. Normally I would agree that windfall taxes won’t do any good BUT when a group of companies such as Oil or Agribusiness are able to get the government to change the laws/rules in their favor, to add ‘loopholes’ in the tax codes, to look the other way on environmental/safety/monopoly pricing I then take issue when someone says that these same companies pay their fair share or that they are operating within a ‘free market’. It isn’t a ‘free market’ if they are influencing government at all levels.
By Midori
May 14, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
RW, the Original Stalker — got milk?
By Midori
May 14, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
oh, by the way — i’m all broken up that a dem won that contest in mississippi.
ROFL!!!!!
or should I say “MOO”??
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Here’s one of those silly polls of Democrat voters asking if Hillary should drop out or if Obama should drop out etc.
This poll is exclusively Democrats mind you.
{{{{{Six percent (6%) want both candidates to drop out }}}}}
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I sincerely hope that was really Polly @ 1:55.
By Midori
May 14, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
How about we do a poll to see who RW will be stalking next?
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Nope, that was me. If only all Republicans could be like those two women. And throw in Lincoln Chafee too. He’s not a goddess of course, but he’s my kind of Republican - a real one.
Sigh.
By Midori
May 14, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I concur about Chaffee.
He is an extemely thoughtful and wonderful man. It took the GOP attacking him for it all to come out.
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
Parrot,
Poll this! Is this or is it not a public forum?
The things you can learn on YouTube
I’m somewhat skeptical.
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
A pretty good case could be made that Lincoln Chafee fits the goddess description long before the other two.
Does Floyd also treat the mutt?
By Midori
May 14, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
LOL - It appears I’ve hit a nerve.
The stalker is now the stalkee.
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Marty - I repeat, you do not know too many European conservatives. One of the HOT issues with European conservatives is regulation of employment. They are against it because it has only led to UNEMPLOYMENT! Mass transit is not an issue in Europe, but distances are not the issue they are in this country. Their infrastructure has also been in place for quite a while.
Again, you lose.
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Parrot,
I’m running out for a while. Do you need a new cage liner or do you have mites?
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Now, now RW, that’s not nice.
No, Floyd’s a renaissance guy, but no vet, and after the sushi incident the other day, I’m not talking to him right now.
The poor guy got twisted up in some vines in the back yard and dislocated his leg, I thought he’d broke it - it was twisted completely backwards. He was probably chasing a squirrel and got carried away. I guess I’ll be chopping down vines this weekend.
Midori,
I heard Chaffee in an interview the other day, said that in hindsight, he wished he’d been the one Senator to stand up with the Black Congressional Caucus and challenge the 2000 election results.
I need to read his book.
By Midori
May 14, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
I plan to order the book off Amazon, Bosch.
as for RW not being “nice”, heck — what do you expect from a psycopath stalker who can’t get a date? His only interaction with the opposite sex is stalking them on this blog.
I suppose I should be, um, “honored”, however, I must admit — that guy gives me the heebie jeebies.
Can you imagine him hiding in my bushes outside my front door?
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Bosch at 1:55, you’re right. in Maine they have Snow and Collins.
Us?
Suckstobeus Chambless and Johnny “Who”?
Midori at 1:56. We all know the {{{ballerina}}} is hopeless. Just making up shiite on the fly and hoping nobody notices. As Bugs used to say, “What a maroon”. I know he used to stalk you, but for months on end now the kid has been absolutely obsessed with me. Can you PLEASE take him back?
Just kidding. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone!
Who woulda thunk that some of the neo-cons wanted to emulate the “pinko” European conservatives?
Too frickin’ funny for words…
By Midori
May 14, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
LOL, AmVet!!!!! :)
Here’s hoping he doesn’t start slinging the shiite he makes up!!!
By AJC Management
May 14, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
{{{{In Kentucky, he is making a direct appeal to Evangelicals with flyers that mention his conversion experience and they highlight a big old cross. Remember Mike Huckabee’s supposed subliminal cross in his Christmas campaign ad? Well, Obama campaign ditches the subliminal and goes for the in your face cross. Look at the flyer here.}}}}
Ahh, yes, separation of church and state, where is thee outrage, you godless heathens?
And how must it feel for you sodomites to know that your presumptive nominee believes in the “tooth fairy” or what ever nonsense you were shrieking yesterday?
And by the way, when I think of Obambi and his spiritual upbringing under reverend wrong, I fear for America.
Bozos.
By West Virginia Demographics
May 14, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
Centuries of inbreeding and endemic poverty have created a stunted race of microencephalic cretins in West Virginia. Naturally, those people voted for Clinton over Obama, and they will vote for MkkkKKKain come November. After all, they have the Last Klansman as their senior Senator.
If West Virginians ever learn to walk on their hindlegs, they might begin to vote Democratic.
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Midori,
I too shall get his book this weekend, and read it after I cut down my dog maiming vines.
AmVet,
Sigh. Alas, Maine has the two superwomen of the universe to represent them, and we have……..
Sigh [again].
Hey, but on my way to Savannah Friday, I saw TONS of Vernon Jones ‘08 billboards along I-16 - along those long stretches of pure farm land. Hopefully those farmers will stand up against his recent stupid farm bill. One can only hope.
By GodHatesTrash
May 14, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
Midori, since you’re an adult, RW won’t have any interest in you sexually.
Carry on.
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Poor Polar Bears
I mean, they’ll eat you with no regrets, and lick your dead flesh off their paws, but they don’t deserve to go extinct.
By Kentucky Demographics
May 14, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Centuries of inbreeding and endemic poverty have created a stunted race of microencephalic cretins in Kentucky. Naturally, those people will vote for Clinton over Obama, and they will vote for MkkkKKKain come November. After all, they have Mitch McConnell and Jim Bunning as their Senators, slithering stupid snakes both.
If Kentuckyians ever learn to walk on their hindlegs, they might begin to vote Democratic.
By The Devil You Say
May 14, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
West Virginia Demographics - you just validated all that criticism directed at Senator Snobama after the San Francisco ‘truth-telling’ incident. You liberal twits really are a bunch of elitist snobs. I’m glad it makes you feel good to put down ‘those poor unfortunates’ that you feel you must direct through their lives as the governing elite. Fascist.
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
Bosch, we are probably several years (at a minimum) before the worst of the Christian nut jobs, frauds and ignorant neo-cons in the new Mississippi - Georgia - evolve away from the uber far-right wing of the political spectrum.
That being said Suckstobeus will probably handily win another term. Useless as he is.
Personally I would trade away three Senate seats to get rid of the most gutless, lying POS to ever represent the people of Georgia. And when you think back on hosebags like Lester Maddux, Newt “The Nut” Gingrich, Pat “Perfectly Named” Swindall, Larry “Augered In” McDonald, Bob “Bust ‘em” Barr and the current Sonny “Pray for Rain” Perdue, that is one hell of an infamous accomplishment!
The worst of the worst. And he is our US Senator…
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
Be an optomist! Think good thoughts! Chambliss and Isakson WILL be defeated - or is Isakson even running again?
By GMAN
May 14, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
The Devil You Say
You, that sick tavern owner in Marietta, and many in that great state of West Virgina represent the “knuckle dragging” demographic of America that fail to understand that we live in the 21st Century and that the earth is not flat. THE CRACKER FACTOR IS ALIVE AND WELL IN MARIETTA!
By Georgia Demographics
May 14, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Face it, Devil, compared to you, a g******* sh-it eating dawg is an “elite”.
You silly knuckledragging cretins can continue to blame Obama for your abject stupidity, or you can grow a spine, walk like a human being, and stop thinking like hatefilled animals.
Go ahead, vote for MkkkKKKain. Trash always votes for other trash.
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
Some of my favorite neo-con buzz words have become passé, and now it appears the newest one is………….drum roll please……………elitist.
What a crock.
The people who have led this country have always been and always will be elites. Well, at least in 90%+ of the cases.
VERY well connected, EXTREMELY wealthy, benefactors of silver spoon upbringings, the best education and opportunities and in spite of the lip service, VERY out of touch with the average American Joe Schmoe.
Would you want a US Senate and House full of plumbers from Woodstock, truck drivers from Cordele and garbagemen from Norcross?
I didn’t think so.
Grow up.
Speaking of GOP slogans (where’s that Dustbomb when we need her?), a couple are outdated, but you get the idea:
Putting the HIP back in Hypocrisy
Adultery with Dignity
$40 million is peanuts compared to what they want to give poor folks!
Moraler Than Thou!
Let’s Get Ready To Stumblllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllle!!
Please, don’t squeeze the Chairman
3% More Ethical Than the Other Guys
We Love to Pry, and it Shows
1000 Points of Spite
LALALALA! We’re Not Listening!!!!
Your choice, America: Vote Republican or roast in hell.
The New GOP — Now with Black folks!
Upholding Principle and Truth Since 1998
With our finger on the pulse of the American peop… Strom? Strom?!
Impeachment: Because the Secret Service Won’t Let Us Get Close Enough To Lynch
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
Wow, am I the last to know that Saxby Chambliss’ son is a commodities lobbyist?
I’ve got to go throw up now.
By mm
May 14, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Wingnuts, here’s some more global warming facts that you can choose to ignore.
Climate Change: Time is Running Out
By Bosch
May 14, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
Ugh, I’m back. Yuck.
Anyway, AmVet, I asked Mr. Devil the other day if he mumbled “effete elitist” in his sleep because he sure does throw it around here alot.
By AJC Management
May 14, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
From mmoron’s article, more babbling speculation, no uh, cold, hard facts to be found:
{{{{The IPCC’s latest projections imagine a world where in 2100 temperatures will be between 1.8 to 4 ºC higher, sea levels will rise by 28 to 43 centimeters and heat waves and tropical storms will increase in their frequency and intensity, blah, blah, blah, let’s excite thee dimwits, blah, blah, blah, humans suck, blah, blah.}}}}
Meanwhile, back on Earth:
{{{{In fact, 2007’s global temperature was essentially the same as that in 2006 - and 2005, and 2004, and every year back to 2001. The record set in 1998 has not been surpassed. For nearly a decade now, there has been no global warming. Even though atmospheric carbon dioxide continues to accumulate - it’s up about 4 percent since 1998 - the global mean temperature has remained flat. That raises some obvious questions about the theory that CO2 is the cause of climate change.}}}}
Morons.
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
Bosch, the neo-con drubbing continues in full force, even over at Wooten’s.
And it is a tad scary but I’m beginning to think that many of these weirdos are ascetics in disguise.
How, otherwise, can you explain the “right wing” self-mortification that begins and ends every day here ad nauseum?
If I, like the faux conservatives here and at Wooten’s, were shown CONSTANTLY to be absolutely full of sh!t every single day, I think I would take the hint and find another little slice of on-line heaven.
You know what I mean?
But then that would take the capacity to have some shame.
The Dustbomb, is an absolute blogging caricature and is roundly lambasted for her stupid comments day after day after day. On BOTH blogs. But she seems to love it.
And one of the numerous cogent non-Republican bloggers there made a not so veiled reference (at 10:57 if anyone wants to check it out) about the {{{ballerina’s}}} earlier spin today about how losing more and more House seats is a good thing for the Republicans.
Shrill as their cries are and no matter just how much teeth gnashing, it does not matter.
80% of the country no longer pays them and their ostrich mentality any real attention.
The dirty little “secrets” regarding these “conservative” bast@ards is out. And the nation as a whole and at long last, is VERY p!ssed off about them.
So now, generally reviled, it is only going to get worse, perhaps much worse, for the neo-conmen and women. Who seem to actually be extremely proud of a dysfunctional clusterf&ck rather than a sane and competent GOP.
But fortunately this greatest of all nations can withstand even the eight year debacle called Bushco…
By Dusty
May 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
Wow, the sludge bucket sure turned over in this blog. What a mess! I hope no one outside of the country reads this slop becaue they will side with the terrorists thinking we are all trash.
The few decent voices on here are ridiculed for being ..well…DECENT.
AmVet who thinks he should rid the world of anything worthwhile splatters on at length. It is my pleasure to be one of his targets while he expounds his dirt on everyone from the President on down. To be one of his favorites would be the worst insult of all.
I commend those who can tolerate the pervasive hate here and try to bring some rational thinking to a lost cause.
I don’t see Paul today. No wonder. He tries to see the best in everything and there is so little here to see. He must be tired from trying.
And Luckovich is your leader. He sets the pace all right. Dead heat drivel!
By AJC Management
May 14, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
The way some people on this blog get more and more hysterical each passing day would lead an outsider to think that it was their political party that had suffered a setback.
Such is the bizarro world of liberalism, the closer the dimokrat party gets to achieving it’s deeply held and sick desire for power, the more their toadies rant and rave.
I, on the other hand, being a cold calculating man of common sense, take comfort in the fact that, had our boy in Mississippi been running against Obambi, instead of that other lib, he would have won.
Hahahahahaha.
Peace.
By MachismObama
May 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
Be one of the boys Barack! Put that woman in her place.
oBAM!
aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
By @@
May 14, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
Good grief AmVet! It’s all about “the balls” with you. Suffice it to say, I’m glad to find out that there are Democrats running who actually have some with which to run against the status quo, leftward hanging.
Yours are still of the pseudo variety.
More annoying than macho.
By Georgia Demographics
May 14, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
Speaking of microcephalic inbred cretins, and look who shows up!
(Could you imagine the offspring of Dusty and Andiduh? Thank Gawd they both prefer men!)
By Morningstar
May 14, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Lest we forget: From (((THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE, May 5, 2008 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED?)))
Here are just a few quotes from the enthusiastic supporters, per The American Conservative:
(((Support for Saddam, including within his military organization, will collapse afte the first whiff of gunpowder. -Richard Perle, chairman, Defense Policy Board, 7/11/02)))
(((After Liberation the streets of Basra and Baghdad are sure to erupt in joy. Vice President Dick Cheney, 8/26/02)))
(((You’re going to find, and this is very important, you’re going to find Iraqis out cheering American troops. Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz 2/23/03)))
(((The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself. president George W Bush, 1/29/03)))
(((You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the War on Terror. President George W Bush 9/06/02)))
(((Five days or five weeks or five months, but it certainly isn’t going to last any longer than that. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 11/15/02)))
(((Why do they hate each other? Why do Sunnis kill S**? How do they tell the difference? They all look the same to me. Sen. Trent Lott, 9/28/06)))
(((I don’t know where (Osama bin Laden) is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him…I truly am not concerned about him. President George W Bush 3/13/02)))
Go to The American Conservative and read many more of these statements. We’ve all heard them before, but one would think we need some qualified serious leadership involved, before we even consider attacking another country!!!
By Devastator
May 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
Edwards endorses Obama!!!!
DEARBORN, Mich. - Democrat John Edwards has given his long-awaited endorsement to Barack Obama. It’s a major boost from a former presidential rival as Obama tries to shrug off Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is determined to press ahead.
Edwards was to appear with Obama in Grand Rapids, Mich., as Obama campaigns in a critical general election battleground.
The endorsement comes the day after Clinton defeated Obama by more than 2-to-1 in West Virginia. The loss highlighted Obama’s work to win over the “Hillary Democrats” — white, working-class voters who also supported Edwards in large numbers before he exited the race.
Edwards, a former North Carolina senator and the 2004 vice presidential nominee, dropped out of the race in late January.
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
Dustbomb, I just read a quote that fits you and your fellow reality challenged (and testicle obsessed/pen1s-envy) non-conservative conservatives to a T!
“The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don’t have it.” — George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
And if you can’t figure that out Dustbag, it merely means you and yours have your collective heads so far up your a*******es you couldn’t possibly see the light of day and intentionally misunderstand those that can.
How else can you explain the FACT that there are probably no less than 20 different bloggers on two radically different AJC blogs who think you are not just morally misguided and politically putrid, but an absolute idiot?
Dusters, if one person comes up to you and says you’re an a*******hole, you could dismiss it as just one isolated opinion, right? Maybe they’re right and maybe they’re wrong.
But what if two people come up to you and say the exact same thing?
Or five?
Or ten?
Or twenty?
At some point you just have to admit to yourself, you’re an a*******hole. And that most people know it.
Dusters and gang, to quote a great anti-stupid war liberal, the truth shall set you free.
By Dusty
May 14, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
GaDemographics,5:30
Cretin indeed! Speak for yourself or get someone to do it for you. You are another example of liberal sludge here.
U R correct about one thing. I do prefer some men, my husband and sons in particular.
By Dusty
May 14, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this
AmVet,5:42
If 50 liberals disagreed with me and added the usual name calling, I would not be surprised one bit. It is what usually comes forth from the lowest of liberal life… like you.
It will be a cold day in hell before you have any influence on anything I post here. Any consideration of your thoughts is a waste of time. Too bad you are such a loss.
By AJC Management
May 14, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
Dusty: When you have them babbling incoherently with spittle flying everywhere, it is a sure sign you are kicking them square in the as-s.
You should really consider easing up before some of them totally lose it.
When one of these dimwits calls me an a*****, I swell with pride, for they have just signaled to me and all in the vicinity that they are unable to reasonably and calmly debate the issues, like you and I can.
Take for instance this new and bright blogger “Demographics,” his presumptive presidential nominee is causing dimokrat voters to announce that they would rather vote for the Repuglican than they would him, so this dimwit bursts upon this blog calling us the racists.
Aren’t they just so brilliant?
And, on top of that, he calls me a fa-g, like it is supposed to cause me to weep and gnash my teeth, when all he has really done is proclaimed how much he and his fellow dims hate homosexuals.
Just like they hate the black man.
Such geniuses.
By Buy Danish
May 14, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this
((By Devastator
May 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
Edwards endorses Obama!!!!))
Do you know, did Silky call him Sweetie?
By Morningstar
May 14, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this
By Bosch May 14, 2008 3:21 PM Poor Polar Bears I mean, they’ll eat you with no regrets, and lick your dead flesh off their paws, but they don’t deserve to go extinct.
No they don’t deserve this! It’s amazin we can’t care for what we have. I guess it’s just my ‘liberal’ nature that provokes caring for all living things. Lil’ Ol Tree Hugger me.
By @@
May 14, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this
Oops! I was laughing so hard when I read this I inadvertently left it at Wooten’s. Allow me to share.
(((By AmVet @ Wooten’s May 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
“You smell that?”
“Do you smell that?”
“Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalmed neocons in the morning.”
“You know, one time we had RNC Hill bombed, for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn’t find one of ‘em, not one stinkin’ neocon body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like… victory.”)))
Now I’m laughing. It’s AmVet’s “exhausted” fumes “dangling” over at Wooten’s.
I must say….
you are a source for my amusement AmVet!
Oooooooh me.
I’m off to see what’s up in the Middle East via Stratfor.
HANG TWO DOOD!
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
And if that were true you would actually have a point, Dustbin. A small one, but at least a point.
The reality is that you could neither identify a conservative, liberal, moderate, progressive, independent or Eskimo if you had a score card. EVERYBODY who doesn’t see things exactly in accordance with your “quaint” world view are evil liberals.
Secondly, the FACT remains that numerous and OBVIOUS non-liberal, non-Democratic moderates here and at Wooten’s see you as just using up valuable oxygen.
It is sad that you constantly have to be reminded of these painful but factual realities, dusters.
Read the last line from my last post again. And then over and over and over.
Outta here. And oh so sadly, I’ll miss the lurking {{{ballerina’s}}} parting 11th (or should I say after) hour shots!
By Devastator
May 14, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
That’s only an issue if you are a Clinton or McCain supporter sweetie.
By Buy Danish
May 14, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
(((Secondly, the FACT remains that numerous and OBVIOUS non-liberal, non-Democratic moderates here and at Wooten’s see you as just using up valuable oxygen.)))
I don’t want to turn you into Joe McCarthy, but who would they be, pray tell?
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this
Glad to be of service, testicle coveter!
Back for more nook-ya-lur fun tomorrow…
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this
WOW! Blowhard sure is unhinged today. I guess it’s easy to call people bast@rds and a***** on an anonymous blog, but Mr. Blog Muscles would be shaking in his pf flyers if anybody said boo to him face to face though.
Good job, Dusty!
By Buy Danish
May 14, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this
((By Devastator
May 14, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
That’s only an issue if you are a Clinton or McCain supporter sweetie.}}
I was thinking it was an issue for the reporter who saw very clearly what a useless, arrogant, panderer Bambi is.
Oh, and I’m neither a Clinton or McCain supporter, darling.
By Devastator
May 14, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this
I meant the reporter is a Clinton supporter. So what, you plan on not voting?
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
AllahPundit is so right about how most of the female press corps would have reacted to that sexist remark from Obambi. Of course they would be outraged if McBushie said it.
By Devastator
May 14, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
RW,
You are absolutely correct! No one wants a creepy old man with one foot in the grave speaking to them that way.
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this
Nice hypocrisy Dhimmistator.
By Buy Danish
May 14, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this
{{{By Devastator
May 14, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this
I meant the reporter is a Clinton supporter. So what, you plan on not voting?}}}
Did I say anything about not voting? I am practicing holding my nose. We’ll see if I have mastered it by Election Day.
{{{By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 6:30 PM}}}
It would be headline news. Frankly, I could not care less about the hurt feelings of feminists, but what Bambi did is not unlike calling him “Boy”.
By Buy Danish
May 14, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this
Now I remember why I stopped spending time over here. The posting delays, or disappearing comments, are really annoying.
By Devastator
May 14, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Thought you didn’t like playing the race card. Calling a woman sweetie has never been construed as negative. Women at waffle house and other places have called me sweetie frequently and vice versa. It was, at least, an exceptable means of addressing someone of the opposite sex.
Calling a black man boy has never been used in a positive sense. It has historically been used to intentionally denigrate and insult. There is a stark difference between the two.
By @@
May 14, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this
Gawd luv ‘ya Devastator. I saw that “Sweetie” video over at Wooten’s. It was clearly obvious that the auto workers weren’t impressed with Senator Obama by the looks on their faces. He was attempting to be one of the boys but he wasn’t addressing their needs.
I wonder if Obama recalls the numerous sexual harrassment suits filed by female assembly workers against some of the men on the line. A candidate can’t afford to forget such trivialities.
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this
{{{{{It would be headline news. Frankly, I could not care less about the hurt feelings of feminists, but what Bambi did is not unlike calling him “Boy”.}}}}}
And now I remember why we miss you so much around here, BD. That is exactly what it was like.
By Buy Danish
May 14, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this
Just when I think I loathe John McCain and have to hold my nose to vote for him, The New Times gives me a reason to support him.
Un.Bee.Leeve.able.
By Devastator
May 14, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this
@@,
I think your friends RW and Buy Danish have been into the moonshine again.
By Alphaman the Muscled
May 14, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this
AmVet, its time for you to get whats coming to you.
RW is driving a red pick-up truck and will meet you behind the Varsity in midtown, where he will proceed to kick your liberal azz!
This won’t be the first time RW has proved his manhood on this blog. No sir, many times he has challenged people to fight. Its that serious. This is more than an anonymous blog to people like RW and AJCM!!!!
8:00 tonight, be there!
By Buy Danish
May 14, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this
{{{By Devastator
May 14, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Thought you didn’t like playing the race card. Calling a woman sweetie has never been construed as negative. Women at waffle house and other places have called me sweetie frequently and vice versa. It was, at least, an exceptable [SIC] means of addressing someone of the opposite sex.}}}
I played the race card? You Bambiettes sure are sensitive hypocrites.
By Likkkoduh is Bush's Burka Boy
May 14, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this
And butt boy too.
Bi baby, I hold my nose and breathe through my ears when I’m hanging at the airport mens room.
Go ahead - call me a f-ag. I’m not. I’m whatever it is Larry Craig is - yeah, that’s the ticket!
Kisses,
Duh
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this
Dhimmistator,
Go watch the video and see if Obambi was calling her sweetie in a pleasant way. It was a condescending way to denigrate her and to put her in “her place.”
By @@
May 14, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this
Whoops! never mind I saw the “Sweetie” video up ^^^ there at 5:14. I need to lite somewhere.
(((Glad to be of service, testicle coveter!)))
I told you once before AmVet that I suspect you’re female. I still do.
I’ve never claimed to have testicles, but when a shemale like you flaunts ‘em, I find it not only odd, but FUNNY too.
By Devastator
May 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
You brought it up, both the sweetie and boy names. Don’t blame me because your ignorance is exposed.
I’m sure McFossil will enjoy your vote.
By Neo-kkkons are funny
May 14, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this
Funny how Bi Danish is all concerned for poor Hillary getting called sweetie by Obama. After the years of neo-kkkon whining about Bill back in the 90s??
Hillary is married to a man who wags his wee-wee at strange ladies, getting called ‘sweetie’ by a very respectable gentleman seems kinda minor…
By RW-(the original)
May 14, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this
AmVet @ 6:55,
Find one time I’ve ever challenged anybody to a fight or STFD and STFU.
By Buy Danish
May 14, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this
{{{By Devastator
May 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
You brought it up, both the sweetie and boy names. Don’t blame me because your ignorance is exposed.}}
So what? And what was “ignorant”, Deviebaby?
Let me guess, you’re whining because it’s a “distraction from the real issues”.
By Glenn
May 14, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this
AmVet, you outrank me by far on concerts, you @#$%&*, but I outrank you on actual movie premieres: “Apocalypse Now”. Yes. Deal with it. And the event & screening were just about as strange as the film. The dispatch to follow, provided you dial down this Antietam for the Gop schtick. (I’d aks U also to lay off @@, but she can handle herself, dammit.)
Now, in fairness I want to offer a branch: Duvall’s turn in “Tomorrow” (1973), from the eponymous story that was Faulkner’s Southern answer to my man Steinbeck.
Advantage: Duvall. Wow. Just, WOW.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
May 14, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
Its a dark day when the GOP loses a House race in Mississippi’s 1st District to a liberal commie flag-burning pinko. Armeggedon can not be far behind when even the people of Mississippi hate America.
I just can’t imagine what George Bush, the Greatest President ever, has done to deserve this. But I guess if tremendous success translated into votes we’d have 100 GOP Senator’s and 435 GOP Representatives, wouldn’t we?
When you look back at the 90’s and see how far we’ve come in just a short amount of time, it just makes me wonder what people are thinking. Its almost as if the people wish we were still in the ‘peace and prosperity’ days of the 90’s. I mean, we didn’t even have an enemy to shoot at back then. What’s the fun of that?
Is it the tripling of the stock market from 1992 to 2000 that people miss? Maybe its the budget surplusses? I don’t know but I’m certain that there is no good reason for this almost universal rejection of the Best President ever and his party. I just wish that Bush and Cheney would refuse to leave office and then set the war machine upon the “blame America first crowd” and kill or imprison the enemies of the State who seem bound and determined to take over the whole country through voting. We can’t let that happen. Democracy cannot survive the free exercise thereof, until we kill off most of the people at least until we are in the majority again… as God intended it.
Luck, am I wrong here or do we as the self-declared ‘real’ Americans owe it to God and country to defend it, by force, from the vast majority of the population who simply hate America by not agreeing with us?
It seems to me that since we are told that if the troops come home from Iraq that we are all gonna die anyway that we should make sure that the right people die now, right? I mean I don’t want to be killed by a terrorist simply because I didn’t have the guts to murder a bunch a voting age liberals. How about you? Are you willing to sacrifice your family’s lives which are put at risk by these people or are you gonna stand up and do something instead of type?
I guess you could argue that despite the rhetoric you really don’t believe that people who disagree with you are any less American than yourself, but I don’t see you going there. I think you’
By AmVet
May 14, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this
Glad to be of service, testicle coveter!
Back for more nook-ya-lur fun tomorrow…