Mike Luckovich

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

Gas price on 11/7/2006- 2.13 a gallon. Democrats take control of Congress. Gas price on 5/13/2008- 4.05 a gallon.

Any Questions?

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Look at what the AJC staff submitted to their own Vent section:

{{{{This 69-year-old Republican is not voting for a 71-year-old. I already recognize that age has diminished my physical and intellectual capabilities.-Urinal Vent}}}}

Discrimination based on age?

Is there no group of people that the bigot liberals won’t hate on?

They hate blacks, they hate women, they hate old people, WTF?

There is nothing that stands in the way of the liberals and their Quest for Power, where age used to come with respect and dignity, now it is likely to get you trampled on by the power hungry.

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Mocking the Marines?

{{{{The many, the proud, the Marines}}}}

{{{{The Marine Corps far surpassed its recruiting goal last month and eventually could be more than a year ahead of schedule in its plan to grow the force to 202,000 members. >>>>Recruiting is easier in a slow economy, which limits other job possibilities that are available.<<<<-Urinal}}}}

What a great way to “support” the Marine Corps, eh, Urinal, call them a bunch of losers ate up with the stupid, sullen, unemployable KKKlinton voters.

I know one thing for sure, at least they didn’t choose to be yellow stained Urinalists whose sole purpose is to undermine and denigrate the institutions that made this country great.

Like you POS did.

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

The dimokrats have a whiny little nominee:

{{{{Here are the Obama rules in detail: He can’t be called a “liberal” (“the same names and labels they pin on everyone,” as Obama puts it); his toughness on the war on terror can’t be questioned (“attempts to play on our fears”); his extreme positions on social issues can’t be exposed (“the same efforts to distract us from the issues that affect our lives” and “turn us against each other”); and his Chicago background too is off-limits (“pouncing on every gaffe and association and fake controversy”). Besides that, it should be a freewheeling and spirited campaign.}}}}

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Sorry, but I’m calling your kandidate a super “liberal,” so sue me if you don’t like it:

{{{{Which makes the audacity of the Obama campaign more than amusing — and amazing — to watch. Consciously or not, Obama has selected the philosophical template of the Dhimmy Carter administration, from defunding the military, fighting the “special interests” down to imposing the windfall profits tax on the rich. This is precisely the philosophy of Dhimmy Carter, although Carter had the good sense not to campaign as the pacifist he really is in 1976, waiting until the moment his hand came off the bible for that.}}}}

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

The Why of Chokingly High Oil Prices: Bush Together with Saudi Arabia Spells Disaster for America

AND DON’T FORGET

THIS

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

In truth, John McCain is a phony when it comes to the environment. He managed to miss every vote important to environmentalists in 2007, including some where he could have been the deciding vote on important issues. His lifetime rating from the League of Conservation Voters is just 24 percent; Clinton and Obama’s are 87 and 86 by comparison.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

it is obviously true that aging, as opposed to skin color or gender, does have a deleterious effect on one’s physical and mental functioning, and to deny this evident biological reality is as nonsensical as denying evolution itself. The species survives when each generation burns out and is replaced by a hopefully superior one, and while it is natural to want to linger on the scene as long as possible, we cannot insist on our personal indispensability to the continuation of the human experience.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

WANNA TALK ABOUT DISCRIMINATION???

“Missouri and at least 19 other states are considering passing laws that would force people to prove their citizenship before they can vote. These bills are not a sincere effort to prevent noncitizens from voting; that is a made-up problem. The real aim is to reduce turnout by eligible voters. Republicans seem to think that laws of this kind will help them win elections, but burdensome rules like these — and others cropping up around the country — pose a serious threat to democracy and should be stopped.”

By w00t

May 13, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Gas in 2001 at the start of the Bush term: $1.40

Gas in 2008 near the end if the Bush term: $3.72

Don’t let andysaq try to pin the blame of the republican’s miserable 8 year failure on the dems yet again.

Realty is a b!tch

By @@

May 13, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Moooooooo ving the masses. The Democrats’ capitalistic dream come true.

From “The Revolutionary Communist Blog”……

(((Transportation systems that move people and commodities are becoming increasingly critical to capitalist profit. The transportation industries can be the Achilles heel of capitalism if we can organize breakthroughs here. This adds importance to the recent transport strikes in France, Italy, Spain and elsewhere, and the struggle in mass transit worldwide.)))

(((Our strategy is to unite the unemployed, immigrant and industrial workers in a movement for communist revolution, bringing workers to power and crushing the racist bosses. With communist leadership, transportation workers can take the lead.)))

Isn’t ^^^ that like trading one tyrant for another. Where’s the man in the middle?

He’s under the bus.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

PRIORITIES, PRIORITIES, PRIORITIES - LEST WE FORGET

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

SCHOOL BUSES ARE A TOOL OF THE COMMIES!

OH MY!

THANKS FOR WARNING US at-at

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

SO IT APPEARS that torture was only for the cheap, sick thrill…..

We lost our moral standing in the world for this???

Damn the Bush Administration.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

FOR DUH

By Copyleft

May 13, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

I see DullAndy’s reading comprehension has sunk even further with that Vent quote: “this 71-year old REPUBLICAN” apparently becomes a “hateful liberal” in Andy’s ever-fevered imagination.

Even the Republicans don’t want anything to do with McLame… and Andy whines that it’s all because of those nasty, mean ol’ hateful liberals! Hah!

Gonna be a great few years once the Repugs are kicked to the curb! Yee-haa!

By @@

May 13, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

You’re welcome ITN!

(((Social-reconstructionist education is based on the theory that society can be reconstructed through the complete control of education. The objective is to change society to conform to the basic ideals of the political party or government in power or to create a utopian society through education.)))

(((Communist education is probably the most pervasive version of education.)))

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

McCain Wants It Both Ways On Global Warming, Ends Up Attacking His Own Plan

By Morningstar

May 13, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

ITN at 8:09 AM and 8:46 AM Thanks ITN; lest we forget. Morningstar needed a good laugh (CRY) this morning.

By AmVet

May 13, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

So, what are we to make of Bob Barr throwing his hat into the ring?

And with a head as big as his, it is sure to be one big hat.

On the surface, people will remember him as another VERY far right-wing, mean spirited, infamous little pr!ck from Georgia whose “accomplishments” included introducing a resolution to impeach President Clinton.

Unless one considers trying to ban Wiccans from the military and sponsoring the Defense of Marriage Act as great and important legislation.

The guy was a veritable walking wedge issue!

This should attract plenty of Georgia’s myopic, Republican “faithful” at the expense of Sen. McCain.

But he has apparently “seen the light” and given up on this debacle called the GOP. And that to many other voters, will at a minimum, make sense.

And though once a good little foot soldier in Ronnie’s miserably misguided “War on Drugs”, he now endorses medical marijuana.

And he correctly sees Bushco as a HUGE disaster on both foreign and domestic policy - especially on the botched invasion/occupation of Iraq.

As well as the administration’s penchant for illegally spying and wiretapping on its citizens and the correct assessment that this president has completely usurped as much power as possible to avoid our government’s checks and balances.

I would suppose that other infamous Georgia “libertarian” nut case, Boortz, is going to pee his pants with delight at this announcement.

So, the “new” Bob Barr is a very interesting figure now and promises to further expose the ineptitude of the worst president in American history.

All to the dismay to the ever dwindling proponents of the horrific neo-con agenda.

The imploding Republican Party - truly a comedy…

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

@@

I take your point.

No Child Left Behind and the republican war on science……

Control education, dumb down America…

Sounds Republicanish to me.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU

FABULOUS!

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Hey! A cartoon for my soapbox: better mass transit in this state. There is absolutely no reason at all why we do not have commuter trains around this state - other than Amtrak. None at all.

I think driving should be made as inconvenient as possible - instead of spending billions to widen interstate, use those billions to create high speed rail lines to Atlanta and other bigger cities around, like Savannah and Macon.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

What we can draw from Obama

Marvelous!!

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

Playground Politics

INSPIRATIONAL!!

By RB from Gwinnett

May 13, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

You know, woot, you’d better hope McCain wins this election or for the next 4 years you’ll have nobody else to blame for your failure in life but YOU.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 13, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

You know, woot, you’d better hope McCain wins this election or for the next 4 years you’ll have nobody else to blame for your failure in life but YOU.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

In order to “counter the Democratic push for change,” House Republicans have adopted a new message: “The Change You Deserve.” But “the change you deserve” is also the advertising slogan of Effexor XR, a drug used to treat depression, generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder, and panic disorder in adults.

APPROPRIATE????

By MARTA Man

May 13, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Uh, didn’t this thread have something to do with transit? If so, here goes…

Having rode public transit my whole life in 5 different cities across the USA, I’ve got to say that MARTA’s got its issues. It’s kinda dirty, definitely seedy. Since people in this area seem to view anything we might do together as communist or welfare, it gets NO state money. You won’t find that anywhere else in the world. If it gets no support from the ‘burbs how can it ever be a system that soccer moms would want to use?

But the buses come mostly on time, the trains mostly run when you need ‘em (maybe not where…). 5-points needs some more cops and a facelift, but it basically works and it’s all pretty much safe.

People can go on about how it’s commie, or how it’s ghetto, but it works, and at $1.75 a trip, that’s less than half a gallon of gas. You can read a magazine or just zone out instead of playing Mario Cart on the Connector. There’s no freedom in fighting your neighbor for a lane change. Best of all, it runs on electricity made mostly from Appalachian coal.

Every city that’s built good transit systems have gotten huge returns on their investments in terms commerce and tax base. It’s good for business. Sometimes you gotta spend a little to get a lot. There’s nothing commie about that. It just takes some public willingness, and some $ up front in taxes. Beats getting nickeled and dimed by every dictator with an oil field.

Of course we’re all free to drive a Ford Expedition anywhere we want, free to fill it up at $100/tank, free to be aggravated in traffic for hours a day. We’re free to vote for another road expansion to make it all possible for another 10 years. But you’d be a fool to think that’s freedom.

By MARTA Man

May 13, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Uh, didn’t this thread have something to do with transit? If so, here goes…

Having rode public transit my whole life in 5 different cities across the USA, I’ve got to say that MARTA’s got its issues. It’s kinda dirty, definitely seedy. Since people in this area seem to view anything we might do together as communist or welfare, it gets NO state money. You won’t find that anywhere else in the world. If it gets no support from the ‘burbs how can it ever be a system that soccer moms would want to use?

But the buses come mostly on time, the trains mostly run when you need ‘em (maybe not where…). 5-points needs some more cops and a facelift, but it basically works and it’s all pretty much safe.

People can go on about how it’s commie, or how it’s ghetto, but it works, and at $1.75 a trip, that’s less than half a gallon of gas. You can read a magazine or just zone out instead of playing Mario Cart on the Connector. There’s no freedom in fighting your neighbor for a lane change. Best of all, it runs on electricity made mostly from Appalachian coal.

Every city that’s built good transit systems have gotten huge returns on their investments in terms commerce and tax base. It’s good for business. Sometimes you gotta spend a little to get a lot. There’s nothing commie about that. It just takes some public willingness, and some $ up front in taxes. Beats getting nickeled and dimed by every dictator with an oil field.

Of course we’re all free to drive a Ford Expedition anywhere we want, free to fill it up at $100/tank, free to be aggravated in traffic for hours a day. We’re free to vote for another road expansion to make it all possible for another 10 years. But you’d be a fool to think that’s freedom.

By MARTA Man

May 13, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Uh, didn’t this thread have something to do with transit? If so, here goes…

Having rode public transit my whole life in 5 different cities across the USA, I’ve got to say that MARTA’s got its issues. It’s kinda dirty, definitely seedy. Since people in this area seem to view anything we might do together as communist or welfare, it gets NO state money. You won’t find that anywhere else in the world. If it gets no support from the ‘burbs how can it ever be a system that soccer moms would want to use?

But the buses come mostly on time, the trains mostly run when you need ‘em (maybe not where…). 5-points needs some more cops and a facelift, but it basically works and it’s all pretty much safe.

People can go on about how it’s commie, or how it’s ghetto, but it works, and at $1.75 a trip, that’s less than half a gallon of gas. You can read a magazine or just zone out instead of playing Mario Cart on the Connector. There’s no freedom in fighting your neighbor for a lane change. Best of all, it runs on electricity made mostly from Appalachian coal.

Every city that’s built good transit systems have gotten huge returns on their investments in terms commerce and tax base. It’s good for business. Sometimes you gotta spend a little to get a lot. There’s nothing commie about that. It just takes some public willingness, and some $ up front in taxes. Beats getting nickeled and dimed by every dictator with an oil field.

Of course we’re all free to drive a Ford Expedition anywhere we want, free to fill it up at $100/tank, free to be aggravated in traffic for hours a day. We’re free to vote for another road expansion to make it all possible for another 10 years. But you’d be a fool to think that’s freedom.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Ex-State employees allege agency kept secret corruption at senior levels in Baghdad

HOW ABOUT A THIRD TERM OF THIS KINDA’ CRAP?

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

The president has said that his administration is employing every tool at their disposal to foil terrorists while protecting the civil liberties of Americans. For some reason, The Los Angeles Times opted not to take him at his word. The secrecy necessary for counterterrorism prosecutions has combined with the rampant secrecy of the Bush administration to make it all but impossible to measure that balance. But the Times chooses a method, however imperfect, to gauge what’s going on. Simply put: spying is up while counterterrorism prosecutions are down. The specifics:

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Thanks Marta Man! Great post.

By w00t

May 13, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

I hope that McCain doesn’t win.

I don’t want another 4 years of a pointless war where hundreds more could die. I don’t want another 4 years of failed economic policy that has brought about the collapse of the housing market, lost jobs, outsourcing, skyrocketing food prices, record gas prices. I don’t want to live under another republican president where the average middle class income could drop another $1000 a year while the top get 1% even richer. I don’t want another republican president that will further bankrupt this country by pilling even more debt to out current tab of $9.2 trillion dollars. I don’t want any more lies. I don’t want a president that flips his principals at the drop of a hat for his personal gain.

The difference between you and me RB is I love my country, unlike you. You’re willing to give up on everything that I just said so that you don’t have to see some Mexicans standing on a street corner looking for work. You would rather sacrifice everything above so that you can vote against the “gay agenda”. You’re willing to forfeit the future of this country on such petty wedge issues that the republican party has spoon fed you for the past 20 years.

You are the real failure here. You’re not even secure in your own life unless you get to watch others suffer. You would rather talk about non issues such as flag pins, absurd religious leaders, Mexicans, and gay marriage then things that really matter to this country. So, who is the real failure here? You, who is scared by the boogie man, or someone like me that wants to clean up the mess you and your kind have made?

By Morningstar

May 13, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

@@ May 13, 2008 9:01 AM You’re welcome ITN! (((Social-reconstructionist education is based on the theory that society can be reconstructed through the complete control of education.

@@, I hope you are not insinuating that parents should have complete control over whether (or not) their children should attend school. Many parents (like corporations) will do what they are forced to do. I’m not an authority on why or how our present education system evolved, but if I remember my history, school attendance until age 16 was mandated after WWII, because so many soldiers were illiterate.

Why were they illiterate? Many parents kept them out of school to work. Sometimes this was absolutely necessary for survival. At any rate, school attendance became mandatory and SCHOOL BUSES were implemented so students living miles from schools could attend.

Buses? Keep the BMW’s and other high dollar cars off the school parking lots. Students ride the buses, with few exceptions. Of course, this would require that parents discipline their children and I’m not talking about beating the socks off them. There’s a right way and wrong way to discipline, but many children now have no conception of right and wrong. Hence, some parents are actually afraid to let children ride the buses.

Mass transit? Mass transit that works would be great! Actually I utilized the Marta system in the early 90’s and it was great!! Sure saved on the gasoline bill. No problems whatever arriving to work on time. Exceptions? You have an out of town meeting or an appointment, take the car. The bottom line is we are a very wasteful, arrogant society.

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett,

Never underestimate the ability of a pathetic moonbat(ic)® loser like wOOsie to find somebody to blame for his/her failures.

wOOsie works for some local government around here dispatching pothole fillers and “woe is me” is the entire employee handbook.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Election 2008 - Where Obama and McCain Stand on Transit

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Copyleft May 13, 2008 9:01 AM I see DullAndy’s reading comprehension has sunk even further with that Vent quote: “this 71-year old REPUBLICAN” apparently becomes a “hateful liberal” in Andy’s ever-fevered imagination.}}}}

Wow, imagine thee coincidence, it just so happens that we found a “Republican” who miraculously is thee exact same age as the Republican presidential nominee and aren’t we all so lucky that this “Republican” could warn us other Republicans through thee pages of the most goony left wing anti American propaganda outlet this side of the Treason Times?

It makes perfect sense.

Everybody hates old people, especially other old people, really, I was in a nursing home the other day and the patients just went on and on about how stupid and lame they were.

And gosh, I would never accuse or even think that the AJC would publish some degenerate racist comment and attribute it to a Republican in the pages of their “news” paper, so pristine and full of honesty, raising questions about a candidate that they just adore, they would never do that!

It is beneath contempt that the Urinal would publish something as foul and sick as this, but what else do you expect from a bunch of s* eating kowards like them?

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Obama talks up high speed rail, Amtrak

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

AJC MANAGEMENT/DUH/rw

your posts are inspiring…..

inspiring people to vote for the Democrats

inspiring people to vote for Obama

inspiring people to be more than the cartoon character republican syncophant that you are!

By Midori

May 13, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Woot,

that 9:47 is excellent. Just excellent. the presentation of facts. the depth of feeling.

thanks for that.

By Travelled educator

May 13, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Morningstar - first of all you are getting a lot wrong, especially about educational choice. Parents still would not have a choice about educating their children, except in extreme situations such as the Amish or some other insular religious group - see the 1st Amendment.

However, Ireland does not have public schools and the system works beautifully. Many European nations, like France, have vouchers which can be used in public or private schools. In Ireland, all schools are private, either religious or secular. Parents take a voucher from the state and they CHOOSE the school. Sometimes a school charges more than the voucher, so the parents would have to make up the difference in that case. However, this is only usual for boarding schools - the traditional British ‘public’ school.

Ireland has possibly the BEST education system in the developed world right now. In fact, most European primary and secondary systems are better than ours. The reason for this fact is COMPETITION. However, the university system in Europe is not nearly as good as ours. It is harder to get into a university, but once it, it is almost impossible to fail! The consensus is that the US University system is superior for the same reason, COMPETITION.

I know that the left in this nation is invested in keeping the education system as dependent on government regulation and largesse as possible, and subservient to the will of the teacher’s unions, which really should be called administrator’s unions.

European schools also do not sponsor sports or other extra-curricular activities. Physical education is mandatory, but students who wish to play sports join leagues, much like our little leagues. This goes for universities as well. There are often intramural teams, but the schools don’t sponsor or pay for them. This is community effort. Scholarships and sponsorships are available.

The same goes for music, drama and other arts. The one exception is the visual arts.

Many European nations also do not offer school lunches. Children take a 1 to 2 hour break after morning classes and they return home to eat. They can also take music lessons, get tutored or take a nap during this time. Electives are scheduled in the afternoons.

Because of the sprawling geography of most American towns and cities, however this is not really practical.

Maybe we should look to the one thing that the Europeans do better

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

McCain’s Corporate Tax Cut Would Save Energy & Utility Companies Over $2.8 Billion

By The Devil You Say

May 13, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

Obama is talking up something that the American consumer has roundly rejected. Maybe the federal government should get out of the transportation business altogether and leave it to the free market. Oh, I forgot - that would be the law of supply and demand, and Obama thinks that all laws can just be ‘changed’. Maybe he’ll take on that gravity thing next.

By The Devil You Say

May 13, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

ITN - in reply to your 10:13 - you left out something, and so did the article. It would also save the American consumer 2.8 billion in taxes because the savings WILL be passed on to the consumer. Businessed do not and never have paid taxes. Taxes are business expenses like any other which are passed on to the consumers in the form of higher prices.

Read up on basic economics sometime!

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS May 13, 2008 10:04 AM AJC MANAGEMENT/DUH/rw your posts are inspiring….. inspiring people to vote for the Democrats}}}}

Yes, DHIMMINEWS, I’m sure that all Republicans are deep down inside just real anti American perverts and stupid self abusing freaks, like you are.

And they are all just waiting for me to point out the obvious racial bigotry of the Atlanta Urinal so that they can abandon the Republican Party.

10-4, dumbas-s, what ever you say.

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

With these know it all liberals in mind, I quote Richard Pryor:

“You don’t get to be old being no fool. There are a lot of young wise men and they are all as dead as a mofo.”

Bwa.

By Morningstar

May 13, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

By Travelled educator May 13, 2008 10:11 AM Morningstar - first of all you are getting a lot wrong, especially about educational choice. Parents still would not have a choice about educating their children, except in extreme situations

Educator, I’m not advocating what should or should not be taught in schools. I’m stating that parents should be FORCED to permit children to attend school until a certain age. I agree that the one to two hour lunch break is not feasible for our school system.

The voucher system as I’ve heard it explained for our schools, is nothing more than a way to rob the public school system. The children of friends and relatives I know, many who are adults now, attended public schools and have been very successful in their careers. The way I understand the ‘voucher’ system as we know it, the priviledged family who is well able to send children to private schools receive the school voucher, and either pay less or no taxes to the public school system. BAD NEWS for our children! We’re then back to the old system of the haves and have nots. If you can afford to send your children to a private or religious school, go for it! Just be sure all children have the opportunity for a higher education and a fair shake at life.

I agree with some of your comments.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 13, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

{{{I don’t want another 4 years of failed economic policy that has brought about the collapse of the housing market, lost jobs, outsourcing, skyrocketing food prices, record gas prices. I don’t want to live under another republican president where the average middle class income could drop another $1000 a year while the top get 1% even richer.}}}

You see, woosie, that’s exactly my point. Somehow in your simple little brain, you have assigned all of these events to Bush and Bush alone. He did it. He made people default on home loans they couldn’t afford. He made companies buy less expensively produced goods from low wage countries to remain competitive. He made oil producing countries reduce supply as demand increased. He made people sell corn for fuel production vs. food. W did it all.

BTW, the unemployement rate, even through all your whining about all the lost jobs, is still at a level considered “full employment”, but don’t let facts get in the way of your delusions.

You are a complete and total moron.

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Morningstar,

What I find highly amusing thinking about the voucher system, is that private schools who accept such vouchers will then be forced to comply with the same federal standards as public schools.

Do you think for one minute that private schools will appreciate the feds telling them what they have to do and dealing with the same NCLB nonsense that the public schools are forced into? Not for a minute, that’s why we don’t see private schools lobbying for such vouchers - they don’t want to deal with the headaches.

And do you think for one minute that private schools will have the kids from the hood accepted into their school just because their parents get vouchers? Bwa!!!

By Dusty

May 13, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Well, how’s the IN THE NEWS & CONFUSE blog today? At ten thirty, there are already twenty one canned super lib posts here from IN THE NEWS and the Democratic info office.

When you throw in all the other lib”sky is falling” comments and the hate Bush harangues, there’s not much left. My congrats to the few conservatives who brave this lib love nest. Stay strong and sensible. SOMEBODY OUGHTA DO IT HERE!!

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

It’s troubling to think of all the people who’ve died in the past week from natural disasters.

I think Mother Earth is trying to tell us something.

By w00t

May 13, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Unemployment rate 2001 3.5% Unemployment rate 2008 5.0%

Number unemployed 2001 5.6 million Number unemployed 2001 7.7 million

Jobs created in prior 8 years, 2001: 1.76million Jobs created in prior 8 years, 2008: 369,000

Any other bright ideas Mr. RB?

By w00t

May 13, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Unemployment rate 2001 3.5% Unemployment rate 2008 5.0%

Number unemployed 2001 5.6 million Number unemployed 2008 7.7 million

Jobs created in prior 8 years, 2001: 1.76million Jobs created in prior 8 years, 2008: 369,000

Any other bright ideas Mr. RB?

By w00t

May 13, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

My apologies for the double post.

By Morningstar

May 13, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

By Bosch May 13, 2008 10:55 AM And do you think for one minute that private schools will have the kids from the hood accepted into their school just because their parents get vouchers? Bwa!!!

Yea right. They’ll be sooo thrilled. Bigotry and selfishness will rear their ugly heads like a spitting cobra. Also, what type of private school can a student attend for a $2,000.00 to $3,000.00 per year school voucher. Many more expenses are involved, and I’m sure the working poor household (and the lower middle class) will have all all the surplus cash they need to provide for the child’s needs. The parent who can afford private schools, will simply have an extra grand or two they don’t need anyway.

Once upon a time, just for funsies, I bought an occasional lottery ticket. Then I began to notice the people buying those tickets at the local ‘fil er up and go’ store. Initially I thought the money going to the Hope grant was a good thing. At face value this seems to be true; however, I’ve come to the conclusion it’s nothing more than poor people sending the rich folks children to college. Now I’d be the first one to “hope” my children would recieve the Hope, but observations have promoted disgust. No more lottery tickets for me!

You’re right, you don’t hear the private schools clamoring for the voucher system.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 13, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

By w00t 11:09 AM

Why don’t you share the numbers for each year from 2001 to current and not just look at the last year when there has obviously been corrections from the housing issues? As they say, statistics don’t lie, but statisticians do. And so do you. Try being honest about what’s really happened over the past 7 years. We went from a declining economy at the end of Clinton’s term, into 9/11 which crippled us short term and began a boom with record numbers on wall st. and very healthy economy. For 6 years. Or did you sleep through those?

Only in the last year have things been negative, but that’s all you want to look at because it fits your model of “I’m a loser and it’s all Bush’s fault”. At least the first part of that is true.

By Goldie

May 13, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

{{Maybe the federal government should get out of the transportation business altogether and leave it to the free market.}}

The Devil @ 10:15 — oh yes, “the free market” has served America so well this past decade, hmmm??? And why not just apply your “free market” principles to those “socialist” systems we have in our gov’t, such as our police forces and emergency responders? Just let the “free market” run rampant, and only those who pay their jacked-up free market prices will be served in a time of dire emergency — is that the best deal for you, The Devil???

Thank God we have liberals in America today! Otherwise, we’d be living in the Dickensian world of the 19th century, just like The Devil wants it!

By Morningstar

May 13, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Marta Man at 9:30 AM. Great post. Well said.

Goldie at 11:36 AM. Thanks Goldie. Let the “free market” take over some of the areas that serve people, child welfare for example, and see who gets services. Please, no sermons on what goes on in the child welfare system. We know all about the abuses, and IT COULD BE MUCH WORSE. At best, there will always be those who mistreat their children, regardless of what anybody can do or recommendations (many which get ignored) are made. Private enterprise is a ‘good thing,’ but companies must be required to follow certain regulations. How many morons do you suppose think companies wouldn’t dare employ child labor if they could get away with it? Or pay unemployment insurance? Or a fair wage? Or abide by safety rules?
I’m off to a lunch with ‘the girls.’ Have a fabulous afternoon!!!

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Play of the Day: McCain faces Boeing blowback

BLOWBACK?

THE GOP DON”T BELIEVE IN NO BLOWBACK!!!

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

McCain Touts Green Policies At Wind Energy Firm - But He Opposed Their Key Legislation

By Travelled educator

May 13, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Bosch - for schools to be accredited, they have to comply with certain minimal government standards already. The great irony is, most private schools already exceed those federal academic standards. The beauty of the voucher system is that it preserves both the public and private educational systems. I am not advocating going completely Irish, as desirable as that might be, simply because it is not practical. However, I do advocate going to the French system where people can choose between public and private, religious or secular. Competition is the key to the mix. It works.

We also need to stop being sooooo sensative about hurting children’s and parent’s feelings. We need to have children test into college preperatory programs as they do in Europe. Those who test in go to the university preperatory high schools and those who do not go to vocational training. Some take vouchers and go on to private schools so that they can take the baccalaureat examination to go on to a university. Some even make it. But going to college is NOT considered some kind of right, as it seems to be becoming in this country.

We spend more per capital on education in this country than any other nation on this planet, yet we seem to get less. We need to face the fact that funding is not the problem. The problem is the system, and it needs radical reform.

By Rover

May 13, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

So, we finally know Luckoduh/AJC management’s real name…Mike Norman.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON POST/ABC NEWS POLL

OBAMA 51

McSame 44

and we’ve only just begun to fight!

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

John McCain’s got so much experience in dealing with rogue regimes that he’s got the rogue regimes’ lobbyists running his campaign …

By The Devil You say

May 13, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Morningstar - You love to put words in my mouth, don’t you? I never have advocated, and never will by the way, the forfeiting of traditional government services and turning them over to the free market. Certain functions are natural monopolies, as undesirable as that might be. The military, police and fire protection fall under that proviso. So does child welfare. We do have separation of church and state in this country and churches do a wonderful job, but they cannot be allowed to have law enforcement powers. This is NOT 16th century Spain or England!

However, as far as transportation goes, the free market served us much better than government owned and operated fiascos like AmTrak, MARTA, BART and the New York Subway system. AmTrak is just a huge boondoggle. Only 60,000 people a day ride those trains. It obviously has been rejected by the consumer. It doesn’t go enough place and where it does go it doesn’t go fast enough.

Generally speaking, the free market does function much better than the socialist systems you hold so dear. Some we are just stuck with. However, your pure hostility to free enterprise and your fear that someone besides AL Gore or Bill Clinton will make money is really rather puzzling, if not downright psychotic.

You decry the world of Dickens, yet it produced great innovations and gave birth to the world of today. Freedom to succeed or to fail was at the core of that world, especially in the United States. Yes there were excesses, and we largely dealt with them.

The trouble is that you see nothing wrong with an economic tyranny of the government and everything wrong with free markets. I will take freedom over government micromanagement any day.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 13, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Check this out.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2008/05/13/mulligans0514.html?cxntlid=homepagetab_newstab

Apparently, it’s ok for the primary newspaper in the state of Georgia to publish drawings of our Republican President looking like a monkey 4 days a week for 7 years, but it’s not ok for some bar owner in the state to sell tshirts suggesting a Democrat running for president resembles a childrens book character who happens to be a monkey. Oh, that’s racist. Anybody suppose ML is giving his proceeds to charity like the bar owner is?

Can you say “double standard”?

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

My real name is Your Worst Nightmare.

You can call me “The Man” for short, wanker.

~~~~~

{{{{“Clearly it has been a biased media, no question about it,” Terri McAuliffe said on Fox News. When asked how much of the mainstream media is “in the tank” for Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), who leads Bruno in the race for the Democratic nomination, McAuliffe estimated that about 90 percent of the media favor Obama.}}}}

And this is just against the other dimokrat, I suspect the remaining 10% will hop in Obambi’s bed once Bruno is out of there.

~~~~~

{{{{By Bosch May 13, 2008 11:06 AM I think Mother Earth is trying to tell us something.}}}}

Bosch: You really can’t believe that the actions of man are now causing earthquakes, volcanoes and cyclones, can you?

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

A Spoiler, by Way of the Dairy Case - In his career in public service, Bob Barr has performed many important roles. As a Republican candidate for the House in 1994, he rose to national attention when reports alleged that he had licked whipped cream off the breasts of two women at a charity event.

“he made no secret about his disdain for the presumptive Republican nominee, who would probably suffer most from Barr’s entry in the race.

“What’s your problem with McCain?” one of the reporters asked after Barr’s announcement speech.

Barr turned to his campaign manager, former Ross Perot adviser Russ Verney. “How long do we have here, Russ?”

Time enough, evidently.

Barr took issue with McCain’s Iran policy. “I’m not going to go around making up songs about such a serious matter as going to war with a sovereign nation, as Senator McCain did,” the former congressman said, tut-tutting McCain’s “Barbara Ann/Bomb Iran” episode.

He quarreled with McCain’s Iraq policy. “These troops need to be brought home,” he offered….”

By RB from Gwinnett

May 13, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Check this out.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2008/05/13/mulligans0514.html?cxntlid=homepagetab_newstab

Apparently, it’s ok for the primary newspaper in the state of Georgia to publish drawings of our Republican President looking like a monkey 4 days a week for 7 years, but it’s not ok for some bar owner in the state to sell tshirts suggesting a Democrat running for president resembles a childrens book character who happens to be a monkey. Oh, that’s racist. Anybody suppose ML is giving his proceeds to charity like the bar owner is?

Can you say “double standard”?

By I Know Bob Barr

May 13, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

I know Bob Barr. Bob Barr is an acquaintence of mine (he has no real friends), and believe me Bob Barr is no John McCain. He is not even a Ron Paul. He’s more like a really flakey version of another true nutcase, Pat Buchanan. At last the ‘right wing’ has its own Ralph Nader, except that no one listens to Bob anymore.

Come to think of it, no one listens to Ralph anymore either!

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Travelled educator,

I agree with your comments for the most part.

I think many people who have children in public schools who want this system, are naive and think that a voucher system will automatically entitle their child to a school of their choosing, and that will simply not be the case.

Vouchers will only pay for tuition, and there are many other costs involved in sending a child to a private school.

I simply don’t see how a voucher system will change the system much from what we have now - it will just look a little different - the middle class kids will still wind up in the same schools together because that’s what their parents can afford - the richer kids will wind up in the same schools for the same reason.

The kids will wind up with pretty much the same as they have it now, and teachers will make less money and benefits.

And like Morningstar mentioned, take $$$ out of the public school system which will be detrimental to those children who will invariably get left behind.

By mm

May 13, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

You wingnuts are idiots. Do you ever go back and read the garbage you post? LMAO.

Why do you defend the indefensible?

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

RB,

You’re forgetting something:

Luckovich’s cartoons are SATIRE, those t-shirts aren’t.

These are political cartoons which have been around for centuries.

There’s a big difference.

What’s your opinion of the “I wish Hillary had married O.J.” sign? Pretty classy for a guy to wish brutal murder upon a woman, don’t you think?

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

{{{{“If it were any other Republican nominee than McCain right now, he would be losing by 20 votes to Barack Obama,” Duberstein said. “But because McCain is a maverick and an independent change agent, he is running neck and neck with Obama.” (The latest Gallup daily tracking poll shows Obama at 47 percent and McCain at 43 percent.)}}}}

And we haven’t even started pounding on Obambi yet.

Bwa.

By Short memories

May 13, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Ah yes Andy you and RW seem to think gas is a Dem problem, so lets review:

April 05: 2.40 August 05: 2.74 (after Katrina) October 05: 3.14

All this while the GOP ran everything. So lets review. We attacked a country that had no terrorists and happened to be the 2nd largest oil producing country in the world. Did the Dems say lets invade Iraq? Nope, VP Cheney has a secret energy policy meeting where he wont even release who was there. A few months after that meeting Enron admits manipulating the power grid in California costing the state 3 billion. Since 05 All major oil companies have had major profits in the billions.. And the Dems had nothing to do with this….

By N-GA

May 13, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Devil,

It’s much more complicated than you suggest. The fact that Amtrak does not have many riders speaks more to cost and speed than anything else. In Europe there are wonderful government operated high-speed rail systems. I’ve ridden them. Contrast that with the high cost (in Europe) of air travel and you quickly understand why people there use the trains.

The problem here is that we allow our government to perform poorly. In fact we’ve come to expect it. If we held our government officials (and career government employees) to a higher standard (and paid them wages comparable to industry jobs), then I think that the quality distinctions would no be as great.

Heck, our federal and state employees eat at the public trough with little fear of losing their jobs, good medical plans, early retirement, little supervision, no merit-based review, etc.

The airlines used to be regulated and profitable (remember TWA, Eastern, Pan Am, etc.?). Now that they are not regulated, they routinely go bankrupt, merge with one another, then go bankrupt again. Left to their own devices, our automobile manufactures have managed to throw their businesses away by succumbing to labor, management greed, etc. Meanwhile Black & Decker and a host of other “American” companies have relocated their corporate headquarters offshore to avoid taxes.

All government is not inefficient, and all private enterprise is not better than government.

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Hey, Thomas Sowell has been reading this blog:

{{{{Senator Barack Obama clearly understands people’s emotional needs and how to meet them. He wants to raise taxes on oil companies.}}}}

{{{{How that will get us more oil or lower the price of gasoline is a problem that can be left for economists to puzzle over. A politician’s problem is how to get more votes— and one of the most effective ways of doing that is to be a hero who will save us from the villains.}}}}

Ahh, yes, but thee dimwits are excited about socking it to “Big Oil” and that is all that counts.

Look at 1:49 and it’s babbling, mindless conspiracy theories and tell me, is America not truly screwed?

{{{{While economists are talking supply and demand, politicians are talking compassion, “change” and being on the side of the angels— and against drilling for our own oil.}}}}

{{{{If you want cheering crowds, don’t bother to study economics. It will only hold you back. Tell people what they want to hear— and they don’t want to hear about supply and demand.}}}}

Idiocy.

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

JUST GOT THIS E-MAIL FROM FACTCHECK.ORG

The Budget According to McCain: Part I May 13, 2008 Think it’s all about cutting earmarks? Think again. Summary McCain’s big promise is that he can balance the budget while extending Bush’s tax cuts and adding a few of his own. He likes to leave the impression that this can be done painlessly, for example, by eliminating “wasteful” spending in the form of “earmarks” that lawmakers like to tuck into spending bills to finance home-state projects. We found that not only is this theory full of holes, it’s not even McCain’s actual plan. In this story we examine the spending-cut side of McCain’s budget program. In Part II, we’ll look at what McCain has said about taxes.

McCain’s pronouncements on cutting spending, and even on the growth in the size of the federal government, are dubious at best:

McCain seems to say that he can save $100 billion by cutting out earmarks. But budget experts say that cutting earmarks would actually save very little. And questioned more closely, McCain’s campaign now says that his planned savings have nothing to do with eliminating earmarks. With earmarks out as a potential source of savings, McCain hasn’t said what he’d cut out of the discretionary budget to get to $100 billion. He’s even indicated that defense spending might increase. If defense spending is off the table, saving $100 billion would require 18.5 percent across-the-board cuts in every other discretionary program, including things like student loans, veterans programs and highway construction. The alternative would be severe cuts in a few programs, as yet unnamed.
McCain says that “just in the last few years” the government has puffed up “by 40 percent, by trillions.” Actually, it has taken federal spending a decade to grow 40 percent, and even longer to grow by “trillions.” This year federal spending is projected to come to $2.45 trillion, including $1.4 trillion for Social Security, Medicare, military spending and veterans programs.

THIS MAN CANNOT BE GIVEN THE KEYS DUDES!

By AmVet

May 13, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

You are correct Goldie, about the worst of these faux conservatives actually being rabid reactionaries who desperately long for the “good old days”.

Though their fearless leader Ronnie Raygun is long gone, they are still fighting against the sexual revolution, particularly against the homosexuals and free speech.

Thirty years on, and they still don’t have the first clue about their stupidly mismanaged “war on drugs”.

And given their way these moronically misguided “godly ones” would do more than ban beer sales on Sundays, they would re-implement prohibition.

This of course is because the worst of the GOP has snuggled up WAY too close to Christian frauds like Falwell, Robertson, ad nauseum.

And lest we forget, we see, even on this meaningless little blog, goof balls who still contend Darwin was wrong (though they cannot begin to offer even a remotely better alternative explanation) and rampant human pollution/destruction/warming of the planet is a myth.

And there are still delusional weirdo “conservatives” who see a pinko behind every bush and a mooslim fanatic on every street corner.

It has almost always been progressives and liberals who have driven this country forward. Again for good and bad. And real conservatives, who apparently went extinct some years ago, acted as a wise and moderating counter-force to some of the most egregious excesses.

But for four decades now the old white men in the GOP have fiercely resisted rational moderation and reasoned traditionalism and pragmatism, opting instead for the most virulent and intolerant extremism.

So now we are forced to drag these dead weights kicking and screaming into these new realities.

The bottom line is that, like it or not, these horribly repressed and unhealthy prudes and puritans, who hypocritically themselves often seek the solace of teenage boys, are fairly impotent to stop this ongoing liberal social change in America.

By AmVet

May 13, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

“If it were any other Republican nominee than McCain right now, he would be losing by 20 votes(?) to Barack Obama”

No shiite, Sherlock!

And what exactly does THAT say about a debacle of a political party whose once powerful base is now so utterly irrelevant that they can’t even nominate one of their eight knuckle dragging darlings?

Who undoubtedly would be so far back at this point as to be a farcical de facto forfeiture?

This Bushco neo-con GOP is, it would seem, utterly hopeless…

By Paul

May 13, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

N-GA 1:51

“All government is not inefficient, and all private enterprise is not better than government.”

Bravo! Altho I might change “inefficient” to “ineffective.”

Recap from an earlier post that didn’t get through:

AmVet

I’ll offer Barr as a candidate wouldn”t take much from McCain. Enough of the conservative Rep base has made it clear they won’t vote for McCain - so Barr’s just an outlet to vent.

I’m still hoping McCain will redefine the Rep party. Maybe Obama can redefine the Dem Party, too - you know, structure it so every issue isn’t a polarizing “them vs us” political issue. I know, I know - dreamer.

But Barr’s only a candidate, not the nominee. I can’t understand why the Libertarians would let him run on their ticket.

Bosch

BSG - is the future in a Cylon/Human hybrid race?

ITN 9:35 (Can’t forget you - that just wouldn’t do!)

What do you find surprising - that Iraqi gov’t is corrupt, or that the Bush Administration would cover it up?

Make that “any Administration” - self-righteous finger pointing by one country to another just isn’t done. Effectively.

By AmVet

May 13, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

“If it were any other Republican nominee than McCain right now, he would be losing by 20 votes(?) to Barack Obama”

No shiite, Sherlock!

And what exactly does THAT say about a debacle of a political party whose once powerful base is now so utterly irrelevant that they can’t even nominate one of their eight knuckle dragging darlings?

Who undoubtedly would be so far back at this point as to be a farcical de facto forfeiture?

This Bushco neo-con GOP is, it would seem, utterly hopeless…

By Travelled educator

May 13, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Bosch - the $$ issue is where you have it all wrong. The public school system in tiny Glascock County, Georgia has the best math scores yet it spends the least per capita on its students, while the Atlanta system spends over $11,000 to $14,000 per capita, depending on whom you believe, and yet the test scores are in the toilet. Money is obviously NOT the the real issue. Atlanta City (rhymes with something else) Schools is the proverbial money pit!

Competition is the answer, and vouchers will provide that. Private schools, secular and religious, will spring up. Some will make it and some won’t. Some public schools will have to be closed.

However, it will force parents to actually become involved, whether they like it or not. Schools will no longer be obligated to keep the students who make it impossible for others to learn. One of the things that has helped not only to ruin schools, but ironically also to ruin families, has been the fact that it is now almost impossible to expell chronically disruptive students. Parents know they have perpetual day care until age 20!!!

Communities also must take responsibility. Vouchers will also help with that because people will feel truly invested in their schools and they will be more likely to be part of the community.

We will always have ne’re do wells and reprobates and unfit parents. They will always exist. But if you actually give people the true power of the purse, things will change. Competition works whenever it is tried.

My final example will be the so-called ‘black’ colleges. Many of them have gone the way of the dodo because integration, slow as it was, finally kicked in and the reason for their existence no longer is relevant. They are dying out because students are taking their money and spending it elsewhere. The truly top-tier institutions like Morehouse and Howard are still around, and they are becoming more integrated.

We must make radical reforms, and a true system of choice through vouchers is the best way to do it. We have the models, now let’s follow them.

By Paul

May 13, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

ITN 2:06

Factcheck’s been a bit loose on their analyses lately, in a few cases.

This is one. I listened to McCain’s remarks where he outlined this. He said he wanted a review of “every” Federal program. Factcheck seems to have missed that.

Another discrepancy - FactCheck inserted “discretionary.” Discretionary is discretionary only because the gov’t chooses to call it that. Open it up to “nondiscretionary” and the pie becomes larger.

The across-the-board cuts are also a poor exercise - altho popular with gov’t employees at all level - the weakness is it assumes each program is just as important as every other program. If they weren’t one wouldn’t be cut and another might be.

But open it up to “should we even have this program” - whether it’s entire departments, agencies, or programs, and now real savings can be realized. But you can rest assured he won’t get too specific - ‘cause each cut affects local corporate, gov’t and personal welfare (I mean, jobs) and no politician is going to go that far before being elected. Not McCain, not Obama, not Hillary.

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By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Numbers racket: Why the economy is worse than we know

By AmVet

May 13, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Good old Cobb County.

Just when you think they can go a few months without showing off the worst of their dumba$$ hick selves on the national scene, along comes yet another moron and closet “conservative” bigot to keep their streak intact!

I have several friends who live there and without exception, they are embarrassed by these “neighbors”.

Paul,

McCain as I’ve noted is PERHAPS a breath of fresh air in the otherwise squalid GOP leadership.

And sorry. my Democratic friends, Obama does nothing for me.

Let me rephrase that, it appears that his is one of the good guys, and I think he is generally on the right track in some ways. But he is a complete wild card and it is well nigh impossible to determine just what the country will get with him in the Oval Office.

He has undoubtedly mad some “odd” alliances in the past and these do not bode well for his judgment.

And it seems most unlikely that as the single most liberal Senator in the United States he could realistically govern from anywhere remotely near the center and build desperately needed coalitions with the more rational and willing to change Republicans.

IMHO he is simply not presidential material.

But as I’ve noted before, there will be NO more neo-cons in the highest positions of power and that is beyond good news…

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Fact Check vs. Paul…….

By Paul

May 13, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

NPR’s “Fresh Air” had an interview today with Kasra Naji, journalist with the Persian Service of the BBC World Service. He’s written a book stating “Ahmadinejad marks the rise of a younger generation of right-wing Islamic hardliners intent on strengthening Iran’s military might.”

Rather gives one pause when one realizes how much of America’s Presidential campaign arguments are on topics such as who will best be able to “normalize” relations with Iran.

What I gathered from the interview is, it’s a lost cause as America sees it. Ahmadinejad sees a large conflict between Iran and the US as inevitable - not avoidable, not probable, not somewhat likely, but inevitable - and his goal is to strengthen Iran so they will prevail.

The author reviewed A’s dealings with several world leaders and describes him and his views as naive. But take a religious fanatic, in charge of a gov’t, give him nukes and a dose of naivete, and what do you have?

There’s a link at the top where you can listen to the interview and decide for yourself how much a future Pres can affect the course -

Link: Kasra Naji on Ahmadinejad

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Paul

Fact Check vs. John McCain

It’s not you Paul….

Just did you hear McCain speak at the flip or the flop?

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

My goodness, some of us have taken the Bush Paranoia Syndrome and swallowed it whole, haven’t we?

The way I see it, the KKKlintons have been irreparably relegated to the past tense, (Thank You God,) but Bushie is going to retire to sanity, with a legacy that only gets better with time, with the impending Iraq victory, with the demise of the “global warming” scare mongering, people years from now will be longing for the Bush “horrible” economy after the next dimwit causes it to collapse from tinkering with their idiot ideas.

Abraham Lincoln was hated by the yellow stained sissies of his time, as was Harry Truman, look at how history views them now. And what dim view it now has of their detractors, pro slavery klowns and Soviet Surrender Monkies all.

You modern day kandy as-ses will be the next generation’s laughingstocks, “global warming” geez, who knows, we may not even have to wait that long.

As for this “pinko” McBushie, he knows how to get thee votes and we know how to control him.

See Amnesty, Failure.

Bwa.

By Paul

May 13, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

ITN 2:49

Do I understand you correctly? You are asserting any link you provide, especially when it cites a source that deals with analysis and interpretation, is the one true, inviolate, irrefutable statement of TRUTH?

Are you sure you aren’t one of those religious fundamentalist types?

:-)

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Travelled educator,

I live with a very well travelled educator too, and they see things differently as do I.

I think competition does have some merit, but a voucher system isn’t going to fix all the woes.

It’s like taking a homeless person and putting new clothes on them - but they are still homeless - the problem just looks different, but there’s still a problem. I hope that makes sense.

I wasn’t talking about what $$$ a school system spends, I was talking about the $$$ a family would spend.

But, this is an old argument, and certainly NONE of the parents or administrators of private schools that I know are advocating for this anymore than any of the public school admins or parents or teachers. The ones who want it, in my opinion, are naive and disillusioned as to the expected outcome.

I would predict that if this system ever came to be, private schools would simply raise their tuition rates equal to those of vouchers.

But I do agree with the fact that it would make parents more responsible, which I’m all for - that’s what the biggest problem is now anyway, again, IMHO.

Paul,

Ewwwww…….it was good, wasn’t it. I did not like that scene when Anders shot Gaita. Poor guy, he didn’t deserve that. I was in Savannah all weekend, and didn’t see it until last night.

Hybrids? Only if they don’t trash our planet! :-)

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

I agree with Paul on the bravo! I think I’m going to print out that quote and put it on my desk next to my right wing parrot that Midori linked to.

By Paul

May 13, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

ITN 2:56

Thanks for the clarification. I read your 2:56 after I’d posted my fundamentalist crack -

But I did hear McCain speak to this a week or so ago - before FactCheck released their paper. I do remember McCain’s words as I was a bit amused thinking about how some people would say “yeah!” without realizing how it could affect them or their local economy.

Let me rephrase: FactCheck does a good job of pointing out errors, as they did with McCain’s assertions on how much the budget has grown. But lately, they’ve been doing more of the commentary “in order to do what he wants, Candidate will HAVE to do N THIS WAY.” That gets out of the “check” role and into the “advocacy” role.

Bosch

I wondered why it took so long to shoot one of the mutineers. :-)

What about the Number Six getting executed? The last t**-for-tat? Or a representation of what to do with those who can’t move ahead with a peaceful alliance and revert to revenge for past wrongs? Middle Eastern values, anyone?

Savannah’s a great town. You lucky schmuck.

By N-GA

May 13, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Paul, What you have is the same thing you will eventually have in Pakistan (with nukes) or anywhere else. Governments (and despots) come and go.

Whatever the form of WMD, it always comes down to 2 things: The will to use them and a method to deliver them.

Americans feel relatively insulated from most of the terrorists. I do think Americans view 9/11 as a wake-up call. But 2 oceans provide a lot of security. But I am more concerned with chemical and/or biological warfare. Delivery is a little easier.

However, let me suggest this: The despots/terrorists of today are using the same weapon that we used to bring down the USSR. For more than 40 years we (the West) outspent the USSR until the ruble was worthless, and the USSR had no more foreign reserves with which to conduct international trade. Now Venezuela, Iran, the USSR and the PRC are all in a position to create economic chaos in the West. The Euro will likely suffer the same fate as the dollar, and we may quickly become marginalized (relative to international influence).

The politics of prosperity can oftentimes be more powerful than the politics of fear. Italians, Russians, Germans and Chinese gave up a lot of freedoms in exchange for food and shelter (there was some fear tossed in there too, I admit).

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

Traveled educator,

I’ll say one more thing about the voucher thing, I certainly would agree with vouchers for parents who have disabled children. Those people need all the help they can get, and I certainly do not see a problem with our tax $$$ helping these folks out.

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Most don’t understand that we are losing a much bigger war than the war on terror.

Paul,

And she was the cuter 6 too. Terrible.

Savannah is a great town - which is why I would like to see more high speed commuter trains around this state. I’d go to Savannah every weekend!

By Paul

May 13, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Yes, governments come and go, yet the thing that concerns me about Ahmadinejad and his ilk is that glassy-eyed knowledge of what will be and their exalted duty to make sure it happens. I’m not sure I see the same moral checks that for the West enforced as restraint (Mutual Assured Destruction was seen by both sides as a strategy that tempered action - not as something to be embraced because Allah wouldn’t let all the righteous perish).

I’m in agreement with the chem-bio aspect of WMDs. In fact, I see such events, or a low-yield nuke, as much more likely, repeatedly so, than the singular apocalyptic events that some speculate.

I’ve thought for a while - just as we need to reorganize our armed forces and the doctrine that guides them to deal with the new realities of warfare that’s been imposed, there is also a need to redo how we handle diplomatic alliances and the economic levers with which we exert influence.

BTW - Soros was on Diane Rehm show last week. It’s archived (audio) on the NPR site and worth a listen -

By N-GA

May 13, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Amen to Savannah….and Charleston, too!

A while back I took Amtrak to New Orleans. Slow (13 hours), noisy, uncomfortable, lousy food, etc. I have also taken the high-speed train from Madrid to Seville. Fast (300+ kpm). Very smooth (you could stand an open bottle of wine on the table). And very comfortable.

With transportation systems like that, 3 day weekends away could become more commonplace.

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

{{{{The way I see it, the KKKlintons have been irreparably relegated to the past tense}}}}

I should finish that thought; When KKKlinton left office in 2001, the pinko media has ever since been lavishing upon us what a great and wonderful president the man was, the same pinko media that insanely foams up at the very mention of Bushie’s name.

A little less than a decade later, the pinko media has ditched the KKKlintons in their entirety, the TRUE NATURE of these people being fully revealed for history to contradict the story that was previously told.

How many children do you think have read at the failed public school system about what a hero KKKlinton was, only to go home that evening and see this purple faced POS on the TV spewing about Jesse Jackson or that “they own the whiteys?”

Will we see a mass history book burning?

Are their urinalists and other assorted hacks furiously scrubbing their archives from the 90’s as we speak?

And you expect us to believe these fools about Bushie?

Hehehehe, can you say “Rushmore?”

By RB from Gwinnett

May 13, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Bosch, To say the ML work is satire so it’s ok, but a tshirt suggesting Obama resembles Curious George is racism is just plain dumb. If he had drawn a “satiracle” (sp?) picture of Obama that looked just like Curious George, would that have been ok with you where the actual CG picture isn’t? What’s the difference? If it’s wrong, it’s wrong in both cases.

The Hillary/OJ comment is in bad taste, but it’s his bar and his sign.
If you don’t like it, you don’t have to go there.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 13, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Bosch, To say the ML work is satire so it’s ok, but a tshirt suggesting Obama resembles Curious George is racism is just plain dumb. If he had drawn a “satiracle” (sp?) picture of Obama that looked just like Curious George, would that have been ok with you where the actual CG picture isn’t? What’s the difference? If it’s wrong, it’s wrong in both cases.

The Hillary/OJ comment is in bad taste, but it’s his bar and his sign.
If you don’t like it, you don’t have to go there.

By GOP <3 Hitler

May 13, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

AJC Management, you seem to be foaming at the mouth there with hatred of bill clinton. truth be told he’s the greatest president this nation has had since JFK and FDR before him.

Not for any major social changes (the GOP congress made sure nothing to help minorities became law), but for the economy. Bill Clinton’s economic prowess turned this country around after a long cold GOP controled 80’s.

Remember when Reagan/Bush made it hard for a brotha to afford a cheeseburger? And he did it in record time, if only Bush junior had cared enough about real americans.

Dubya came into office with oil trading at $20/barrel (look it up), and now because of his policies and supremely idiodic war attrocities it is trading at $130/barrel. That’s over a six fold increase.

If anything i guess you could say he serves his constituency. Old, White, Rich people who hate everyone that isn’t.

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

{{{{Apparently, our addition of nine molecules of carbon dioxide to each 100,000 molecules of air over the last 150 years can now be blamed for anything and everything we choose. Hurricanes, tornadoes, heat waves, floods, glaciers flowing toward the sea…. all of these used to happen naturally, but no more.}}}}

{{{{The warming that allowed the Vikings to farm in Greenland 1,000 years ago was surely natural. But we are now told that warming in Greenland today is surely manmade. Glaciers retreating in western Canada have revealed evidence of previous forests, showing that warming and cooling cycles do indeed occur, even without SUVs. Yet the SUV is now the scapegoat for retreating glaciers.}}}}

I mean you really, really have to be stupid to fall for this one.

Are your Godless heathenistic lives so empty and totally void of meaning that you have to cling to these junk science hoaxes?

By Paul

May 13, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

N-GA

This past weekend for Mom’s Day when we got together - brother came in with a Giuseppe Guintarelli that we enjoyed before dinner. And after. Seems the importer he deals with had to make three trips to the winery before they’d sell him any. Thought you’d enjoy that -

By Morningstar

May 13, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

By Travelled educator May 13, 2008 1:02 P But going to college is NOT considered some kind of right, as it seems to be becoming in this country.

Agreed. Many of the people we know who have really earned the big money are the people with trades. I don’t believe I have ever known an unemployed plumber, and their monetary intake is right up there. If you don’t believe it, call one.

However, I don’t believe a child should be ‘forced’ into vocational training simply because he or she don’t score well on a test. Some don’t score well on a test and go on to college an do well. Some are of the opinion less brains are required to acquire a trade and do well in life. Not so. A trade without business sense is a ticket to not doing well, just as a college degree with no common sense. If the little bugger wants college, then he or she should understand it’s “get with the program” and bring the grades up. I believe grades have more bearing on whether a child does well in college than a score on one of those silly tests.

Bosch is correct in that vouchers will not change the woes. Also Bosch’s 3:19 PM is an excellent point! Give the parents of disabled children all the help they can get!

By GOP <3 Hitler

May 13, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

AJC Management, i didn’t realize that your pastor has a direct line to god? Apparently every single baptist preacher in america KNOWS that global warming is just a bunch of hoopla created by god-hating liberals. So how do you know so positively without doubt unless you have a direct line to god?

well until you do then I’ll just be putting my faith in SCIENCE and FACT and REASON. Why would a non-fake god instill us with sense, reason, and intellect if he didn’t intend for us to use it?

Every sermon every church, less and less scripture, more more and political brainwashing, i say its about time these hillbilly church’s started paying taxes?!?

i bet you like UGA too huh?

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Exactly! If there were a 300+ mph train going from where I live - I’d also go to Atlanta alot as well - more shopping (hell, I’d go to Whole Foods ever other day) and concerts, sports, etc. It just seems rather dumb to not do it, in my opinion, but then again, look whose running the show under the golden dome.

RB,

The owner of that bar isn’t a political cartoonist, and I don’t think Luckovich or any other political cartoonist liberal or conservative would draw Obama as a monkey. If they did, then yes, I’d consider that rascist.

Luckovich’s portrayal of Bush in my opinion isn’t “monkeyish” it portrays him as a little child-like man. If that’s how you see Bush in Luckovich’s cartoons, then that’s your interpretation, but with the t-shirt there is absolutely no room for interpretation, it is what it is.

When interpreting art, one must look at the historical portrayals within the art. Blacks have historically been portrayed as monkeys, whites have not (except for Charles Darwin), and with the case of the t-shirt - it’s just there - a monkey and Obama. It doesn’t even have “Curious George” on the shirt.

You’re right, I don’t have to go the man’s bar. I don’t hang out in trashy places.

By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) Loves Dikkk Cheney

May 13, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney!

My pastor is a great man. He spends almost as much time on his knees as I do.

His services are almost as fun as the mens room at the airport.

By Midori

May 13, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Bosch - why waste your time trying to have a rational conversation with a racist dummy who can’t even post comments correctly on a message board?

BTW - Abraham Lincoln was portrayed by his enemies and detractors as a simian.

By Morningstar

May 13, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

By The Devil You say May 13, 2008 1:19 PM | This is NOT 16th century Spain or England!

How well we know! And I agree that’s about where we’d be headed if we farmed out certain sensitive human services to the highest bidder. Abuse to the Nth degree!

Now how in the name of CREATION (bad word, right?) did you get the idea that I disapprove of private industry. I never said that. Did the DEVIL make you think so. If I may clarify, let me do so. Private enterprise is great (think I said this earlier). Companies just need restrictions, and those restrictions need to be monitored and ENFORCED.

The same goes for government. Government agencies need someone constantly looking over the shoulder to ensure they are abiding by the rules, regulations, laws etc. The ‘someone’ is there, unless some hokey pokey is going on; same for the private sector.

A public transporation system could work wonderfully. We just need a good system. As I mentioned earlier, I had no prior problems with Marta. Methinks we need the ‘bullet train’ within 100 miles of Atlanta, N.S.E.W. Now wouldn’t that fog up some bifocals and cause some to need a laxative. Enough said.

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I forgot about Abe, thanks! Why do I do it? I think of it as my civic duty :-) although are any of us surprised that RB was the one who brought up this subject and is somehow attempting to defend this guy?

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

If John McCain wins the presidency – and gets to appoint one or more U.S. Supreme Court justices – America’s 220-year experiment as a democratic Republic living under the principle that “no man is above the law” may come to an end…….To put the matter differently, if a President McCain replaces one of the moderate justices with another Samuel Alito – as McCain has vowed to do – then Justice Department lawyer John Yoo’s extreme vision of an all-powerful Executive could well become the new law of the land…… As expressed in classified memos by Yoo when he was a key lawyer in the Justice Departments Office of Legal Counsel, there should be, in essence, no limits on what a war-time President can do as long as he is asserting his duty to protect the nation………Alito also is associated with this concept of a unitary executive, holding that a President should control all regulatory authority, define the limits of laws via “signing statements” and at his own discretion override treaties, the will of Congress and even the Bill of Rights and the Constitution……… All this would occur under the right-wing assertion that McCain was appointing justices who strictly interpret the Constitution. It has been a long-held tenet of the conservative movement that activist judges were at fault for outlawing racial segregation and other statutes that discriminated against minorities….. Thus, perhaps more than any other question, the November election will settle whether a future Supreme Court will reshape the United States into an imperial system both at home and abroad or roll back President Bushs expansion of executive power in the direction of the Founders’ original vision.

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

Madrid is about 390 kilometers from Seville. They must have some great wine service to get you a bottle when the whole trip is only going to take a little over a minute in N-GA’s 300+kpm rocket train.

Don’t wet your pants, goat boy, I know you probably meant hour instead of minute.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hagee has apologized to the Catholic Church

Time for you moonbat(ic)s® to move to your next phony boogy man.

By Short memories

May 13, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

So Bush is not responsible for high oil or gas prices:

Saudi Arabia has considerable additional production capacity. It’s pumping a little over 8.5 million barrels a day, compared with about 9.5 million barrels a day two years ago, and has acknowledged the ability to produce as much as 11 million barrels a day… .

When you are a lame duck President even the leaders who you hold hands with dont respect you….

By Short memories

May 13, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

So Bush is not responsible for high oil or gas prices:

Saudi Arabia has considerable additional production capacity. It’s pumping a little over 8.5 million barrels a day, compared with about 9.5 million barrels a day two years ago, and has acknowledged the ability to produce as much as 11 million barrels a day… .

When you are a lame duck President even the leaders who you hold hands with dont respect you….

And as for the housing, the GOP congress looked the other way when the Lenders were pilling their pockets with cash and they got permission to give anyone a loan because congress passed a bill making a person who files for bankruptcy pay back their loans.. And the GOP was in charge of congress at the time

By Short memories

May 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

So Bush is not responsible for high oil or gas prices:

Saudi Arabia has considerable additional production capacity. It’s pumping a little over 8.5 million barrels a day, compared with about 9.5 million barrels a day two years ago, and has acknowledged the ability to produce as much as 11 million barrels a day… .

When you are a lame duck President even the leaders who you hold hands with dont respect you….

And as for the housing, the GOP congress looked the other way when the Lenders were pilling their pockets with cash and they got permission to give anyone a loan because congress passed a bill making a person who files for bankruptcy pay back their loans.. And the GOP was in charge of congress at the time

By N-GA

May 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I would love to know which Giuseppe Guintarelli you enjoyed (style & vintage). They are so very rare. I’ve never had the pleasure. Perhaps one day…….

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Things younger than Republican Presidential candidate (oh, and did I forget to mention “war hero”?) John McCain

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Whatever one thinks of the bar owner’s shirt, it’s undeniable that Obambi and Curious George are lookalikes. The only difference is that Curious George can figure out how to solve problems and the other guy can give a speech.

By W stands for waterboarding

May 13, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

The thing is both Curious George and Obama are about 100 times smarter than Idiot George that resides at 1600 Pennsylvania avenue…

By N-GA

May 13, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Thank you (R)eal (W)anker for so politely pointing out my typo. You take hubris to an entirely new level. Your posts are becoming more and more puerile as your political relevance evaporates.

phhhtttttttt!

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

{{{{The Committee on Energy and Commerce is the oldest standing committee of the U.S. House of Representatives, and one of its most important committees. Throughout its history, the Committee on Energy and Commerce has written landmark legislation greatly benefiting the American people: laws to improve the quality of the air we breathe, to clean up toxic waste sites, to provide health care to senior citizens and children, to protect the safety of our food and drugs, to promote a vibrant telecommunications industry, to prevent fraud in our financial markets, and much more.-John Dingbat, Dimokrat, Chairman of the House Energy Committee}}}}

Anyone else notice how the words “cheap” “abundant” and “domestic” are conspicuously from the above mindlessness?

{{{{By Short memories May 13, 2008 1:49 PM Ah yes Andy you and RW seem to think gas is a Dem problem, so lets review: April 05: 2.40 August 05: 2.74 >>>>>>>>>(after Katrina)<<<<<<<<<< October 05: 3.14}}}}

Even thee “short” dimwit noticed that energy prices rose after production was disrupted in the Gulf of Mexico but yet thee mouth breather is unable to ask it’s self: “Gee, if prices go up because supply is limited, than what would happen if we increased supply?”

$2 a gallon hike since Dingbat took over the chairmanship of the committee that controls energy policy, yes, moron, it’s the dims fault.

I can now just imagine what Cheney said in his SECRET!!! 2001 meeting on energy- “We are going to wait 6 years until thee dimokrats are in charge and then Whammo! will jack thee prices up and we’ll all be rich, yeah, that’s it.”

Freak.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 13, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Bosch and Midori, Racism is not a one way street. Until you liberals get that through your thick skulls, it will not improve. To say it’s ok to portray one man’s likeness in a silly “chipmeror” manner, but not anothers, because he is black, IS RACISM. You’ve made a distinction and assigned preference based on race.

You can say “double standard” can’t you!

By Midori

May 13, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

W stands for waterboarding: BAM!!!

By RB from Gwinnett

May 13, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Bosch and Midori, Racism is not a one way street. Until you liberals get that through your thick skulls, it will not improve. To say it’s ok to portray one man’s likeness in a silly “chipmeror” manner, but not anothers, because he is black, IS RACISM. You’ve made a distinction and assigned preference based on race.

You can say “double standard” can’t you!

By getalife

May 13, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Yes, Dems have drank the kool aid but it does not compare to the wingnuts drinking w’s kool aid.

w’s speeches are just terrible.

The smartest move for Obama to solve problems is to pick Clinton as VP.

Of course, this move will cause heads to explode with the kool aid drinkers and their hatred of Hillary.

By Paul

May 13, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

ITN 4:41

Whew! Lotsa assertions and blanket statements, there. IF they’re correct, notice the author didn’t cite any cases, such as the Hamdi decision, or numerous others, where the Court slapped the Bush Administration down?

You were saying something about “fear mongering?”

N-GA

I’ll have to see if the folks still have the bottle - it was one of the things I left without. I highly doubt it was one of the more elegant ones, likely rather plebian, as most there just kinda say, “wow! This is really good!” and at that level you can get such a response at $60 as you can at $700. Or in this case, at $30! But regardless, my initial response was, ANY Giuseppe Quintarelli , even at $50, is better than a lot else out there for several times as much.

I’m just glad by luck of birth I have such a brother -

RW-(the original)

Heard someone - might’ve been Stewart - say “mixed race parents. Said he looked gawky as a kid with ears that stuck out. Lived on the south side of Chicago. Is anybody really serious when they think this guy didn’t grow up tough and can’t handle himself?”

By Midori

May 13, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

RB - even your double posts are laden with “double standards”.

ROFL!!

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Geez gramps. I told you not to wet your pants over it and I was quite enjoying the thought of you sipping wine while traveling 18,000+kph.

Let’s see….Do I care what you think of my posts?

Ummmm…..not in the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Did the Democrats change the Constitution while we weren’t looking?

Via the New Editor, let’s compromise: How about four more years, Chris? Or were you thinking we were going to try to elect him senator?

This on the heels of Obambi telling us we have anywhere from 60 to 62 states.

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

RB,

Nice little twist (as I roll my eyes).

By Paul

May 13, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

getalife 5:16

The irony just keeps on coming. Heard Dick Morris (to say he dislikes Hillary would be putting it mildly) the other night. Seems he’s been doing some indepth Electoral College analysis for some time. Showed again - regardless of national polls - that as of now, Hillary is strong against McCain. Obama isn’t.

See, ITN, that’s what a good political analyst does - puts aside their personal views and gives a clear read of what the data show.

By N-GA

May 13, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Actually Paul,

The reputation of the wine is really a result of the industry’s respect for this winemaker. He puts everything he has into each wine, regardless of its relative status. He doesn’t produce every wine in every year. And he only releases it when he believes it is ready. I really appreciate the latter, because so many people have little patience when waiting for a wine to reach maturity…just look at the vintages offered at 99% of restaurants.

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

Paul,

That points out why so many that get their news from late night comics are so woefully misguided. Obambi grew up in Hawaii.

By N-GA

May 13, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

The AJC online just posted an article that syas the Vatican says it is okay for the faithful to believe in extraterrestrial beings.

There are so many directions to go with this…..

By TW

May 13, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

The Dems go with Hillary and they screw themselves harder than they did when they turned their back on the white male following the civil rights movement. Think some savvy GOPer won’t swoop in and steal the disenfranchised Obama youth movement if Hillary gets the nod? And it’ll take a hell of a lot longer for that mistake to die out than will the baby boomer bust…

By N-GA

May 13, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

RW (5:28)

Your apology is accepted.

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Ahh, yes, the corpse has risen and is terrorizing thee cult with her merry band of goonies:

{{{{After a >>>>>>token<<<<<<< effort in West Virginia, Obama late Monday had McCain in his sights as he brushed off his expected defeat in the >>>>>>rural<<<<<< state to focus on battle themes for November.}}}}

“Token?” Can these bigots not contain themselves?

It’s pretty sad when even some of your own toadies don’t like your presumptive nominee and start using code words to frame him with.

They usually save that sh!t for the Repugs.

And isn’t most of the United States “rural?”

Does this not spell doom for thee uh, tok, er, your kandidate?

Go monster!

By AmVet

May 13, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

Former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee is at the top of the list of John McCain’s possible running mates, according to a top McCain fund raiser with ties to his inner circle.

Oh lordy, lordy, lordy!

Tell me McCain is not this incredibly stupid?

Anyone? Bueller?

IF, and that is a big if, this is true, I am reasonably certain it is time to begin thinking in terms of President Obama.

By Paul

May 13, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

I’d have to venture anybody (italics) who comes up the political ranks on Chicago’s south side can handle himself okay -

But in spite of that, I have seen one or two polls that indicate a disturbing number of people who get the bulk of their information from such shows have difficulty separating the wheat from the chaff.

N-GA

I read a couple articles about him when I got home. Shows the difference with someone who does what he does because he loves it - not so he can make $$$ to go do something else.

Regarding your 5:42, I suppose one could ask, if God is the God of the Universe, and His creation is Universal, then why do so many think Earth is it?

Bosch, please, please, please - don’t go there. Okay, go ahead… is the Cylon concept of God similar…

By Paul

May 13, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

AmVet 5:51

Okay, I’ll say it - it’s incredibly stupid! What does it gain him?

Moriss’ll have do redo that Electoral projection.

Frankly, for pure entertainment value over many days, I don’t think he could do better than Lieberman -

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Chicago politics and especially southside tends to be a little different than someone like Jimmy Carter’s rise. As much as I think Carter was the biggest disaster that’s ever held the office of President, he really did work his way up the ranks without being “sent” by anybody.

This is fairly long so you may want to save it for later, but it gives a pretty good description.

It also shows the downside of this kind of politics. If the press corps quits swooning over Obama in his jeans and starts uncovering his sordid connections, he’s toast. Wright and Ayers are likely just the tip of the iceberg and Ayers hasn’t really hit the mainstream media yet in any depth.

By AmVet

May 13, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

Paul, though no Ferris Bueller, you’re OK!

I just saw where the Muscular Dystrophy Assoc. is NOT going to accept the money from the Cobb County cretin selling the Obama monkey t-shirts.

I mean how amazingly ignorant can this guy be? That he is indeed a good old boy “conservative” bigot is certainly in play now, isn’t it? And yet another black mark on the perhaps most derided county in all of America.

I wonder what organization would accept the proceeds from this moron? The John Birch Society, the KKK and the Aryan Nation all seem like possibilities…

By Paul

May 13, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Thanks for the heads-up on the post.

I was listening to one pundit who distinguished between “association” and “ideology” - in other words, the up-and-comer will use the associations to get ahead, without necessarily adopting the ideology of those with whom he associates, even if those associations last many years.

I wonder - is any politician at that level unsullied with their associations?

But I think what you’re saying is many are enthused with an image, not with a reality, in large measure because the candidate has gone to lengths to not disclose the reality. Is that correct?

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

Paul,

It’s hard to imagine Obama is just using these people to get ahead. He seems to have always actively sought out radicals and Marxists as mentors or if you prefer stepping stones. His first book is pretty revealing in the type of ideologies and people he gravitated to and he probably wrote that book without his eye on the Presidency.

Blowhard,

Remind me again what you claim we are all “evolved” from?

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I’m not touching that.

McCain/Huckabee? Oh, give the keys to the White House to Obama right now. LOL!

By AmVet

May 13, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

President Carter ranks between 19th and 34th in historical presidential rankings. About the same as his predecessor - Ford. Divided by the ten different polls, he averages 25th.

I suspect very, very strongly that our fighter-pilot hero of Alabama ends up 43rd across the board.

Move over Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Grant, Nixon and Harding, there’s a new biggest loser in town…

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Has anybody seen the New York Times piece that says John McCain is lying when he says Obama said he would talk to Iran without preconditions? It even has a quote from a high level Obama staffer that says Obama didn’t say that.

This is from Obama’s own web site.

Diplomacy: Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions.

Shouldn’t the New York Times have somebody that could find that?

By Paul

May 13, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

I’ll have to look at it. I’d imagine he examined a number of ideologies and viewpoints - I can’t imaging much that’s more difficult - or was, 40 years ago - than growing up as a black-white child. I can see rejection coming from both sides (in fact, have seen it within my family). So a search for identity will take one many places.

And isn’t it all the more remarkable he’s the one who has not built a candidacy based upon race? But as far as ideology, hopefully that’ll get more fleshed out in the months remaining.

Here’s a thought - as far as past beliefs and performance being an indicator of future performance - we’ve spoken before about Pres Bush’s performance as governor - then contrasted that with his performance as President. So as far as Obama goes - does the man change the office, or does the office change the man?

Quite a season -

By IN THE NEWS

May 13, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Terry Nelson - The Questionable McCain Association Of The Day….So there you have it. John McCain, knowing full well about Nelson’s connections to virtually every GOP electoral scandal of the past half decade and the criminal behavior of Jack Abramoff—not to mention the kind of ads the North Carolina GOP would love when they need a fill in for Jeremiah Wright—chose to make him his campaign manager.

MAKES YOU FEEL KINDA’ HOPELESS, DON’T IT?

By Bosch

May 13, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this

RW,

Just curious - still sticking to not voting for McCain?

By Paul

May 13, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 6:36

Did I hear something incorrectly during the debates about “no preconditions”?

Didn’t the NYT cover the debates? That’s the danger when media endorse a candidate -

ITN 6:36

Ties right into the discussion with RW-(the original) about Obama’s associations.

When one attacks a candidate with an issue, gotta make sure a variant can’t be tossed right back at you!

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Were he exploring I would think he wouldn’t always wind up with America hating Marxists, but maybe that’s just me.

I don’t think growing up as a mixed race child in Hawaii and Indonesia was any big deal. Having his father leave when he was two and his step father moving him to Indonesia before being moved back to Hawaii and in with evil racist Granny may have been though.

By G-strings & J-schools: NYT RIP

May 13, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

Theodore Roosevelt wouldn’t THINK of going on safari without fittings, provisions, plans and personnel arranged by Abercrombie & Fitch. Today that company flogs G-strings to 12 year-olds.

The New York Times is the Abercrombie & Fitch of journalism. They’ve phased out journalism; they’re doing something else.

And the J-schools will be the last to get the news.

By AJC Management

May 13, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

{{{{Over the past several years, the momentum has shifted away from hard-core materialism. The brain seems less like a cold machine. It does not operate like a computer. Instead, meaning, belief and consciousness seem to emerge mysteriously from idiosyncratic networks of neural firings. Those squishy things called emotions play a gigantic role in all forms of thinking. Love is vital to brain development.}}}}

{{{{Researchers now spend a lot of time trying to understand universal moral intuitions. Genes are not merely selfish, it appears. Instead, people seem to have deep instincts for fairness, empathy and attachment.-David Brooks, Treason Times}}}}

Ahh, yes, thee dimwits flay about in search of the “meaning of it all.”

It completely amazes them that animated pieces of meat could actually have an instinct for right and wrong built in them, an imbedded moral code that guides them through this life as though there is some….purpose, hahahaha.

Morons.

Ever wonder why someone that has let the Holy Spirit into their heart never asks these stupid questions like the heathens do?

My favorite scripture, I hope I don’t cry reading it again:

“11 Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. 12 It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, “Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, “Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” 14 No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.”-Deuteronomy 30 11:14

It is not hidden from you, fools.

You hide it from yourself.

By Jesus

May 13, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Buy Danish

May 13, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

RW,

Speaking of America-hating Marxists, this is a very thorough examination of Saul Alinsky that’s downright scary, even for someone like me who is hardly naive on the topic of America-hating Marxists.

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I will NEVER vote for McCain. How many freaking times do I have to answer that question around here?

Besides he’ll win Georgia with ease anyway.

By Buy Danish

May 13, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

{{Besides he’ll win Georgia with ease anyway.}}

RW,

I don’t know about that. Not if it’s Obama versus John “The Climate is a Changin’” McCain.

I am so flipping furious at McCain and his idiotic Climate Change tour right now there is steam coming out of my ears.

I found this AP story today from 1922:

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway.

{{{Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.

Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.}}}

By RW-(the original)

May 13, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Obambi will be the nominee and I’m convinced he won’t beat Moonbat McCain in Georgia. If he does by one vote I’ll happily take the blame though.

The only thing McCain might do is nominate better justices than Obama, but I’m not convinced he wouldn’t bail on us there too.

Now not to be morbid, but we have three sitting Senators, one of which will be the next President, and no sitting Senator ever elected directly into the Presidency has ever survived his term, so we may want to pay very close attention to the Veep choices.