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By Mike Luckovich | Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 10:10 PM

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By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

Don’t you just love it when the pinko liberals create a disaster, i.e. high gas prices because of no domestic oil production, and then they rub OUR faces in it?

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This story could have been written by a machine, after all, it follows the same script as all the others have:

{{{{Aid >>>trickles<<< in after cyclone-Urinal}}}}

How long before blah, blah, America sucks, blah, blah, even Osama has bin Laden gave more money, blah, blah?

{{{{Using tragedy to advance an agenda has been a strategy for many global warming activists, and it was just a matter of time before someone found a way to tie the recent Myanmar cyclone to global warming.}}}}

{{{{Former Vice President Al Gore in an interview on NPR’s May 6 “Fresh Air” broadcast did just that.}}}}

Taking advantage of a horrific loss of life to promote junk science, blaming the mankind that they hate for a disaster caused by nature.

Sick.

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This story could have been written by a Urinal Editorial Board machine:

{{{{THE SCENE IN INDIANA AND NORTH CAROLINA: Without ID, a dozen nuns turned away-Urinal}}}}

Dozens of nuns!

Gee, I wonder if they came to vote for the two dimokrat sodomites?

Oh yeah, RC church perverts, I forgot.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

RC PERVERTS?

LIKE HANNITY?

LIKE O’REILLY?

By truthman

May 7, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

Man-o-man!!

Our man Obama is in the driver’s seat for sure.

Get ready for great changes in America come 01-20-09!!

‘09 will be just fine for liberals and progressives who believe in the rule of law and who respect the Constitution.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:09

I like the way The Huffington Post reports it - McCain “did not gain more than 80 percent of the vote.”

What happened to “twenty percent of hardcore ultrarightwing conservative fundamentalist neocons don’t have a candidate”?

But seriously, why is that a bad thing? To have a mainstream candidate?

Oh yeah, that would rather put a stop to all the “same as Bush Administration” talk, wouldn’t it? But it is The Huffington Post, after all. and Arianna has to keep the angst up and the dollars flowing in.

Rule of thumb: 20-25 percent of a population will hold to just about anything. Which is why, in the general, we’ll see a replay of this headline “Obama (Hillary) did not gain more than 80 percent (more likely 75 percent) of the Democratic vote.” (Huffington Post running that was my joke for the day).

By Paul

May 7, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:10

Isn’t it a little early in the season for reruns?

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

PAUL

Nice explanation. Reasoned.

However, it remains that a quarter of republicans can’t stand McCain.

For all of McCain’s and the GOP’s own “angst” THEY can’t seem to keep dollars flowing in.

That is not at all surprising.

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

My goodness, the Urinal published their own little “Why We Fight” segment and I seriously doubt if they are even aware of it:

{{{{Three women were killed in an attack on a brothel in the northern city of Mosul on Monday. The Americans blamed the attack on al-Qaida insurgents, but local police did not speculate on who carried out the killings. Iraqi police said the women were prostitutes. There has been a string of attacks against women deemed immoral in recent months, including the bombing of hair styling salons and frequent slayings of women not wearing traditional clothing in the southern city of Basra.-Urinal}}}}

I’m not advocating prostitution and I am for damn sure not glorifying religious extremist terrorism against woman, like the Urinal is.

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{{{{The long-dormant Chaiten volcano in southern Chile blasted ash some 20 miles into the Andean sky on Tuesday, forcing thousands to evacuate and fouling a huge stretch of the South American continent.-Urinal}}}}

Well, well, we have a mini post global warming fallout world, the air filled with warming gases from this volcano and surprise, surprise, the people just survive and return to normal.

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{{{{Despite losing in Indiana, Obama put some questions to rest tonight. Most importantly, he demonstrated that he could weather the kind of firestorm created by his controversial former pastor Jeremiah Wright after two weeks of the more intense scrutiny he has faced thus far in the campaign.}}}}

Yeah, sure thing, “questions” on whether his fellow America hating dimokrats will vote for him.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:17

Ten Million people tuned into O’Reilly’s show to watch the interview with Hillary. Ten million. (That may be more people than those who watch MSNBC for an entire day).

It doesn’t count the millions who heard the replay on the radio show.

Or the millions who watched clips on YouTube.

Even The Huffington Post said, begrudgingly, it was the best policy interview of the season.

I’ll bet the numbers will be higher when Obama goes on.

So to put O’Reilly’s journalism in the same category as partisan entertainers is a bit off the mark, I think.

Your 8:40

Again, why is that a bad thing? (Rhetorical question).

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Paul

8:36

Nope

Great books need to be re-read.

Great movies are watched over and over.

Folks buy entire c/d sets of their favorite programs from television.

Important information needs airing - repeatedly.

Sorry if it tries your patience.

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

And now for the good news:

{{{{A third of Clinton voters in Indiana, and slightly more of them in North Carolina, told exit pollsters that they will support John McCain in general election over Obama should he win the nomination. Fewer of Obama voters said they would support McCain over Clinton but majorities of supporters for both candidates in both states said would be dissatisfied if the other won the nomination.}}}}

Plus:

{{{{In a late-night speech here, Clinton said that “it would be a little strange to have a nominee chosen by 48 states.”}}}}

{{{{Her aides also tried to stoke concerns yesterday among elected officials and party leaders, known as superdelegates, about whether Obama could win in November, with one warning of an “October surprise” that could ruin his chances.}}}}

This ain’t over by a long shot.

Bwa.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:44

Clever. Good one.

But in rereading books or rewatching movies, I generally learn something new or see a different slant.

AJC Management 8:48

Your citing of another example of Islamic fundamentalist’s treatment of women: it’s struck me as amazing that our own domestic equal-rights, stop oppression, etc. Democrats and liberals haven’t expressed outrage over these repeated attacks on women. They’ll take up the cause for racial oppression (South Africa) or worker oppression (Spkr Pelosi’s reason for opposing the free trade agreement with Columbia) - but horrific oppression against women?

Silence. Absolutely amazing.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

This race is starting to remind me too much of the 1976 presidential race. The Republicans will take it on the chin in the Congressional elections. Jimmy Carter II (Barry H. Obama) will eke out a victory doing something no Demoncrat has ever done, win without carrying ONE Southern state. We have some inflation now, but it is not bad. We have deficits, but compared to the GDP, it is actually lower than the deficits of the Ford Administration.

After Jimmy II, we will have rampant inflation, energy prices through the roof and a stagnating economy. Our foreign policy will be an even bigger disaster than Carter’s. We will leave Iraq and Iran will fill the void. Al Qaeda will take up residence because it will be a safe haven. It will be like Vietnam all over again. It will be IMPOSSIBLE politically to go back in.

The ‘good’ news for Republicans is that 2010 will be a wonderful year politically. It will be a repeat of 1930, with the party out of power making massive gains. 2012 will be even better for Republicans with a charismatic true conservative a la Ronald Reagan.

McCain is a weak candidate and he MIGHT pull out a victory, but I am afraid at this point that he is Ford II and carries too much baggage from an unpopular administration.

If you demagogs think that things are bad now, just think back to those ‘good old days’ of the late 1970s with gas lines and stagflation and a misery index of around 20. Currently it is at 8.

By the way, old Dummy Carter invented that little measure of political fortune. It came back to bite him in his meager lilly white behind.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Paul

“So to put O’Reilly’s journalism in the same category as partisan entertainers is a bit off the mark, I think.”

WHO DID THAT?

YOU’RE MAKIN’ THAT UP!!!

ALL I DID WAS QUESTION BUDDY-BOYS RC PERVERT STATEMENT. (see little ricky’s first post this morning)

Come on dude, stay with the program.

(Although calling BOR a journalist is really, REALLY a stretch)

(OK, so now I’ve done it!)

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

ANOTHER REASON NOT TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

The do-nothing Repugs will face the music this November! They have no ideas for the future, other than more-of-the-same nothing.

Obama/Clinton ‘08!

By Paul

May 7, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:44

The attorney’s piece in your Crooks and Liars makes a fundamental mistake many make in such analyses: they equate decisions on matters of law that go against their policy preferences as “bad judging.”

In many of these cases, the actual issue is irrelevant. Topic is A. Question is: is there a Constitutional provision N to support/oppose this? Does it conflict with past Court holdings? That leads to decision D.

But the attorney does not like the implication for her policy preferences. So rather than state “Case C sought to create a right R under Legislation L while the Court held Congress exempted R from the Legislation” she simply writes it off as bad judges.

Which is why the author works for a policy ADVOCACY group.

Oh, and she’s a lobbyist.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

ITN - I might agree with you about O’Reilly because he is a jerk and not a conservative. He is a populist and a rabble rouser. However, please tell me how Hannity is a pervert?

By the way, some of the biggest perverts I have ever known have also been atheists, Hindus, Jews, MUSLIMS, Mormons and other assorted people. Perversion seems to be endemic and not limited to one group or another. Yes we have hypocrites, but that is, unfortunately, human nature.

Please don’t paint with too broad a brush. It betrays you as the narrow-minded sychophant that you are.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:56

It’s how I read your 8:17

“RC PERVERTS?

LIKE HANNITY?

LIKE O’REILLY?”

I haven’t a clue what an “RC Pervert” is, but as examples you gave Hannity and O’Reilly. As they were, together, provided as an example of something else, I took that as lumping them together.

Okay, I just read to the end of your post. You’re right - a lot of different names for the same person going on here.

Your last sentence - only if you want to allege Boston University’s master’s program in Broadcast Journalism isn’t really a journalism degree. Or a Master’s in Public Administration from the John F Kennedy’s School of Government doesn’t have a tie-in to journalism. Or that Emmys aren’t given for journalism.

Devil You Say 8:56

I’d imagine Obama would carry more than a few southern states - no polls to back it up - just an opinion based on watching the primary results.

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

{{{{“The reality is that, historically, tax revenues in the oil sector dwarf corporate profits, >>>>meaning the real windfalls in the industry have gone to government<<<<. Shining a spotlight on government’s role in increasing prices is more productive than reactionary attacks and policies that would include higher taxes and, thus, even higher prices.”}}}}

Yeah, Big Government, hahaha.

Morons.

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Too much to bracket>>>

“[A]s the campaign progressed, I found him getting under my skin in a way that very few people have. When our paths crossed during the campaign, I often had to suppress the rather uncharitable urge to either taunt him or wring his neck,” Obama writes.

How did Keyes do this? By questioning Obama’s Christian faith.

“Christ could not vote for Barack Obama,” Mr. Keyes once said, “because Barack Obama has voted…in a way that it is inconceivable for Christ to have behaved.”

It touched a nerve in Obama and he was by his own account tongued-tied, irritable and tense during their debates. Keyes prodded Obama on the question of biblical literalism.

How could Obama believe the Bible’s proclamation that life was sacred and yet support abortion rights, Keyes would ask? Obama gave “the usual liberal response” about separation of church and state.

“[Y]et even as I answered, I was mindful of Mr. Keyes’s implicit accusation — that I remained steeped in doubt, that my faith was adulterated, that I was not a true Christian,” Obama complains.

Well, it wouldn’t have annoyed him that much if Keyes wasn’t onto something.

By Devastator

May 7, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

I would like to thank Hillary Clinton and all her supporters for a good long fight.

America is about to embark upon a necessary political, social, and economic change that will continue to catalpult us into a better, more prosperous country.

Yes we can!!!

By mm

May 7, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Do you wingnuts really think the defeated Clinton supporters would vote for McCain in November? Dream on. McCain is a poison pill for the GOP. Actually, I don’t think Reagan himself could pull off a victory this year after 7 years of Bush/Cheney.

Even with you clowns voting for Clinton in primaries, you could not defeat Obama.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

ITN - I hate to burst your little partisan bubble, but like it or not, O’Reilly is every bit as much a journalist as Dan Rather, Perky Katie Couric, Brian Williams, Tim Russert or George Stepanopoulos. And I think that anyone who actually WATCHED the O’Reilly interview with Hillary Clinton was impressed. He was relatively tough (I wish that he had been tougher), but he was fair. The Hillary camp had no real objections.

Obama will NOT submit to an O’Reilly interview because he does not like tough questions. He whined about that after the ABC Debate before the Pennsylvania Primary. If you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen. Obama wants to be in the refrigerator.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

ITN - I hate to burst your little partisan bubble, but like it or not, O’Reilly is every bit as much a journalist as Dan Rather, Perky Katie Couric, Brian Williams, Tim Russert or George Stepanopoulos. And I think that anyone who actually WATCHED the O’Reilly interview with Hillary Clinton was impressed. He was relatively tough (I wish that he had been tougher), but he was fair. The Hillary camp had no real objections.

Obama will NOT submit to an O’Reilly interview because he does not like tough questions. He whined about that after the ABC Debate before the Pennsylvania Primary. If you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen. Obama wants to be in the refrigerator.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

AJC Management 9:18

One question on that topic gives me pause: many churches that oppose abortion have abortion exemptions in cases or rape or incest.

But if life begins at conception, and is therefore sacred and to be preserved, what difference does the circumstance of conception make?

By Devastator

May 7, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Devil,

Of course the Hillary camp had no objections, he wasn’t tough enough with her! You just admitted that in your post.

That interview, along with the shared gas tax proposal of Clinton/McCain was just an attempt to stop Obama.

The ABC moderators ambushed Obama, therefore Obama and his supporters complained, O’Reilly didn’t ambush Clinton, therefore she didn’t complain.

Its not rocket science dude.

By mm

May 7, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

GOP loss could threaten leadership

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Paul - he will no more carry any Southern states than Walter Mondale did in 1984 or Jesse Jackson would have. It really does not boil down to race as too many claim. It boils down to party preference. The only state that Obama has even a prayer of carrying right now in the South is Louisiana, and that is too slim. The Republican trend among white voters in the South is just too strong.

Obama is likely to win with what political historians call the ‘Lincoln’ combination. It is rather like a ‘hat trick’ which is only pulled off every 150 years or so. That was John Anderson’s dream in 1980, but he was rather a fool. Obama has a real chance to do it.

BTW - overwhelming results in a primary do not necessarily translate into strenght in a state. It speaks more to organization and enthusism of the base. The best example that I can think of off the top of my head is Goldwater winning the Republican primary against Rockefeller in 1964!

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

{{{{By mm May 7, 2008 9:20 AM Do you wingnuts really think the defeated Clinton supporters would vote for McCain in November? Dream on.}}}}

I don’t think it has anything to do with McBushie.

But it does have a lot to do with Obambi.

Seig Heil, you little klanners, you!

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 9:06

“The attorney’s piece in your Crooks and Liars makes a fundamental mistake many make in such analyses: they equate decisions on matters of law that go against their policy preferences as “bad judging.”

I’m sorry to break this to you…. but this is a credentials fight you just plain can’t win.

I’d like to welcome Kathryn Kolbert from PFAW to the pages of C&L. (Kathryn has been recognized repeatedly by The National Law Journal as one of the “100 Most Influential Lawyers in America)

BIG LAWYER vs. Paul the mild blogger?

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Devil

“”ITN - I hate to burst your little partisan bubble, but like it or not, O’Reilly is every bit as much a journalist as Dan Rather, Perky Katie Couric, Brian Williams, Tim Russert or George Stepanopoulos.”“”

YOU DIDN’T EVEN COME CLOSE TO BURSTING MY BUBBLE…..

HOWever, I did have a good laugh at your expense.

It’s pretty much a daily thing now….

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Poor Hillary — all that name recognition and dominance of the Dem Party… so why could she never close the deal???

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Hillary did not complain because the questions were fair. She also saw the damage in whining. If Obama was ambushed, then it was because he is either naive or a fool, and neither one is good in a president. The Wright and Ayers contraversies were out there for all to see. It was inevitable that they would be brought up. He was unprepared because during previous press conferences he had been treated with kid gloves because, frankly, the word ‘reporter’ should have been replaced by ‘supporter’ when describing those asking the questions. That is not rocket science.

Obama better watch out. Sooner or later, he is going to have a Ted Kennedy moment (remember the Roger Mudd interview and the Tom Jerrel interview?), and he will be left babbling.

I watched his speech last night and once again it was all sound and fury signifying NOTHING. It sounded good, but no substance and nothing that stuck with me. He kept talking about change and hope and a hope for change, but it frankly was rather redundant and boring. Hillary was much the same.

He is too much like Mark Hanna’s description of William Jennings Bryan - “He reminds me of the River Platt in Nebraska: an inch deep and a mile wide at the mouth.” Or to quote Senator William Jenner from Indiana when speaking of Governor Averell Harriman of New York: “He’s thin boys, thin as p** on a rock.”

By Paul

May 7, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

ITN

And you were doing so well, now back to repeats. I can’t remember from my classes, but I’m sure there’s a term for “when you can’t counter an argument, try to belittle your opponent and ignore the topic.”

Oh yeah, I remember the class: Liberal Politics 101.

You may want to reread my earlier post: I cited her credentials. Didn’t mention she was President of People for the American Way, though. Just strengthens my contention she’s an activist (lobbyist) with multiple causes, and being a lawyer, tries to get her policy preferences implemented through the courts.

Not through legislation. Where most try to make law. Hint: just apply the same principles to the Legislative and Judicial branches you repeatedly cite in complaining how the Executive (Pres Bush) is trying to usurp, take over, crush, the Legislative (Congress).

I know you can do better than that.

By just for the record:

May 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Good morning bloggers!

Had to go to WalMart which I really hate, but anyway, and the other Bosch and I were laughing about how smart China was. For years, they’ve flooded our markets with junk and us materialistic Americans have bought it up because it was cheap and we could buy more stuff - you know how we Americans love our stuff and the more the better. And now, China owns our country with loans, buying up the dollar etc. and they have such a demand for fuel, they are the ones who can afford it, we are stuck with cheap Chinese crap, inflated prices, unaffordable fuel, etc. while the Chinese sit back and laugh and laugh. I’ve always said that wars don’t have to be fought with guns, and Americans do not understand the patience of those in the Middle East and China. People don’t have enough sense to see that we’ve just lost a war - an economic war - which is alot more detrimental than anything al-Qaeda could throw at us.

Vacation? Not taking one this year - with a kid going off to college, and the price of everything, just saving my government check for a rainy day and text books.

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

The Devil @ 9:36 — Obama also has a great chance to win VA in November… no one believes McBush will win that southern state!

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

ITN - you are making the mistake that too many have made before you, conservative and liberal. Activist judges are BAD judges. We have elections and a legislative process to make laws. Judges should NEVER make laws. Please read the constitution. That is why we have separation of powers. Montesquieu, Locke and Hume refined the idea building upon the British system and we implemented it.

Judges should NOT have compassion. They should be DISinterested and DISpassionate. They should be neutral. The worst justice EVER on the Supreme Court was William O. Douglas because he was just a blatant activist. The best ever was probably John Marshall Harlan because he was just the opposite, but no one EVER accused him of being too conservative!!

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Oh no, I’m so busted! I had enough of Dusty yesterday. Seems I was the coward. Oh how funny.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Paul,

““when you can’t counter an argument, try to belittle your opponent and ignore the topic.”

Oh yeah, I remember the class: Liberal Politics 101”

Sure it’s “liberal” politics 101?

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Paul - your 9:54 post is right on except that you failed to note that Bush can ONLY block legislation, he cannot do anything to actually usurp legislative authority.

Presidents can do a bit of stonewalling, as Andrew Jackson did when he famously said of the Supreme Court order forbidding the removal of the Five Civilized Tribes to Oklahoma. Remember what he said -“It is the Supreme Court’s order, let them enforce it.” He also destroyed the Bank of America, and the nation’s financial system along with it, by defying the law. Jackson, of course, is still the quentissential populist, liberal Democrat. Republicans have a completely different philosophy of government. I have yet to see Bush behave so blatantly.

By Devastator

May 7, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Devil,

Thanks for your opinions concerning his speech last night. Question: Did you also happen to notice the election results? I’m sure that was nothing too right?

Who cares about the speech when you’re busy kicking a$$!

Why don’t you just say you don’t support Obama and leave it at that. Your comments are the same as the Clinton campaign’s: a failure!

By Paul

May 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Hi Bosch

I was referring to Number 2 - Leobon Conoy. Don’t know how I got Lysander - a Spartan - out of that. Must’ve been late. But he’s the religiously-inclined one, the oneness of it all. Could be foreshadowing -

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Who really believes that the Clintons are not among the “elites” in America? How many of us average Josephines would be able to spend over $11 MILLION in order to pursue a political dream?

WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton lent her presidential campaign $6.4 million over the past month, her campaign said Wednesday, underscoring the financial advantage held by her rival, Barack Obama.

By N-GA

May 7, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

If Jesus Christ came back (ala the Messiah of Morris Avenue), even he would have a difficult time trying to right this ship of state. That, of course, assumes that he is not (re-)crucified by the religious right for heresy.

Paul,

If you wonder where the outrage from the left over the misstreatment of women is, are you suggesting that they should be the only ones to speak out? What about this administration? What about the religious right? What about the Catholics? What about women’s rights groups? What about the media? Perhaps the real question should be “Why is there such a collective silence over the murder and rape of women in Iraq, Iran, Sudan, etc.?”

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Devastator — Obama’s speech was brilliant last night, and it was just a preview of our campaign against McBush’s more-of-the-same dead-in-the-water campaign!

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Paul….

Sorry you are insulted that you are not one of the nations top 100 lawyers. That’s something only you can resolve. Don’t blame the liberals because you are just a blogger.

Devil…

Judges don’t make laws. It is impossible.

You make the mistake dude. Activism is a good thing. In fact it’s a GREAT thing. It’s a citizenship thing.

Warren Berger you dirty activist you!

Earl Warren you filthy activist!

William Rehnquist you nasty activist!

Gimme an ACTIVIST over a lemming or couch potatoe anyday!

AND THAT JOHN MARSHALL HARLAN GUY….

“Harlan is best known for his eloquent dissent in the 1896 case, Plessy vs Ferguson, which upheld a Louisiana law requiring blacks and whites to ride in separate railroad cars. Harlan criticized the Court’s adoption of the “separate but equal” doctrine in these memorable words: “Our Constitution is color blind and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens.” “

” After hearing Parden’s plea and reading a transcript of the federal district court hearing, Harlan persuaded a majority of Supreme Court justices to gather the next day at the home of Chief Justice Fuller. Harlan’s impassioned plea and his expressed belief that Tennessee was about to execute an innocent man convinced his colleagues to stay Johnson’s execution and schedule arguments in the case. It was a rare victory in a day in which “state’s rights” usually prevailed. “

SORRY BUT THAT WHOLE BUSINESS OF MEETINGS AT THE CHIEFS HOUSE AND IMPASSIONED PLEA SOUNDS….

SOUNDS….WELL IT SOUNDS >>>>

PRETTY DAMN ACTIVIST.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

I did happen to note the election results. However, the speech was still a thin bunch of pap. He said nothing substantive. He whipped up a base and ran a good campaign. However, great oratory alone does not make a great leader. Benjamin Harrison was possibly the greatest orator ever to be elected president, but can you name even one accomplishment of his presidency?

I know I will be excoriated for this, but Hitler and Mussolini were FANTASTIC orators, and, well, we know what happened with them. Not to say that is really a prerequisit for being a tyrant because both Lenin and Stalin were TERRIBLE orators, but they still inspired great loyalty.

Jefferson was a very poor speaker and Lincoln had a very poor style of delivery. However, they were great writers in an era when literate people got ALL of their news through print.

Yes, I guess it’s nice to run a person who has ‘star’ quality for president in this electronic age, but it does not mean that he has ‘gravitas.’

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Obama’s campaign of Old vs. New will continue all the way through November — and what a stark contrast the American voters will see in the October debates between Obama and McBush:

Last week, not a soul in politics would have predicted that Obama would win North Carolina by 14 points and virtually tie in Indiana. But through a combination of luck and smarts, the campaign ended on the theme that Obama ran on: Old politics vs. new politics.

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

ITN @ 10:20 — and let’s not forget about those “activist judges” on the Supreme Court in the fall of 2000! The Repugs certainly felt comfortable with that activism when it was in their favor…

By truthman

May 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

I will say this about Bill-O:

He is the winner emeritus of KO’s “Worst Person in the World” award, which should be renamed “The Bill O’Really Worst Person in the World” award.

BTW: Who cares if Obama doesn’t win a single southern state! Most of the southern states are completely out of touch with the rest of America. Down here it’s god, guns and “gooooolly!!!

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross!”

-Sinclair Lewis, 1937

By Paul

May 7, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Bosch 10:05

I could have said Conservative Politics 101, too, but I was addressing ITN and in the context of the post it just seemed to fit better.

Devil You Say 10:08

I wouldn’t mind seeing a little consistency. As I noted, some attack the Bush Administration for trying to usurp Congress. In some cases, they have. Part of the age-old tension and jockeying between the branches. That, plus the VP used to serve in Congress - then the Executive - and I think he felt things had tilted, in some areas, too much towards the Legislative.

But the same people will then justify bypassing Congress to get their policies enacted through the Court.

Maybe it’s because they can’t get their policies enacted through the Congress? Just a thought -

N-GA 10:17

An excellent point. Many are remiss. But to do that, people would have to be willing to weather the criticisms of cultural imperialism, imposing Western values, etc etc. I was thinking more about what’s recognized in this country as the progressive voice for women.

But I like your collective better.

THAT would make a great theme for a candidate to pick up on -

By truthman

May 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Devil. Do you EVER make a point?

SSDD…blah, blah, blah…Rush will win the election for McCain…blah, blah, blah…Hillary scares me because she’s a strong woman…blah, blah, blah…Obama bad black man, he scare me, too…blah, blah, blah…operation chaos…blah, blah, blah…O’Reilly is Henry W. Grady…

Please, when we bed-wetting, godless liberals win this November, please move to a country where theology is law of the land…say, Iran! You’ll fit in quite nicely with the other religious zealots.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Leoban said that he couldn’t resurrect now, what is the deal with that? I know they blew up Number Six’s ship after she had those others shot, but I couldn’t follow along with what exactly was going on.

I like Leoban - I always felt kind of sorry for him when Starbuck kept stabbing him.

By Devastator

May 7, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Devil,

First you say it wasn’t a good speech, and then you equate him to great speakers. You might want to see a shrink about your “Hating Speakers” issue.

Goldie,

Yes we can!!!!

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

11 Trillion in debt, housing crises, jobs to Asia, war in Iraq, gas prices sky high, dollar down, inflation up, republicans in prison, 2 billion a day borrowed from China, $4500 a second spent in Iraq, 4071 dead, 1000 attempted suicides a month. Can we talk about Rev. Wright.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Bosch

Cut and paste from a couple of synopses (okay, I violate my “let’s make fun of people who use Latin forms, but “synopsises” just sounded kind of dorky):

Cylon base ship: The vote has been taken, and the Cylons are deadlocked on the issue of reconfiguring the Raiders. But, something extraordinary has happened — one of the Sharons, Boomer, voted against the rest of the models. Well, that never happens. Cavil takes that as license to reconfigure the Raiders, observing that the Six is right, something has changed.

Cavil and his raiders lobotomize the Raiders…

Cavil orders the Centurions to leave. They don’t obey. Six reveals the Sixes, the Leobens, the Sharons removed the inhibitors that restricted higher functioning in the Centurions, giving them the gift of reason. And they were very upset that the Cavils ordered the Raiders to be lobotomized. The Centurions open fire on the other models. A coup has begun.

The Cylon baseship: Brother Cavil (Dean Stockwell) resurrects, and is greeted by another Cavil and Boomer/Turncoat Sharon, who gives him a passionate kiss hello. Later, he goes before two other Sharons and a Six (Tricia Helfer), who inform him that they want the D’Annas (Lucy Lawless) — the Threes — back online. Cavil resists, but he doesn’t have much hope of getting his way: Six asks the Centurions to escort him off the ship. They don’t react until she adds, “Please.” Before they lead Cavil away, he taunts her about having to use the magic word with the Centurions — and warns the other models that they have opened a more dangerous can of worms than they ever imagined.

The Cavils agree to resurrect the D’Annas. Two of the Cavils reveal that there is a resurrection ship several jumps away to which her core consciousness is being downloaded, and proposes they all go there. The Sixes and Sharon agree, but say they’ll go on their own ships.

At the destination point, the Sixes and Sharons notice their resurrection ship didn’t make the jump with them. Then they see the Cavils’ ships surrounding them to attack. Before they can alert their sister ships, the Cavils open fire…and they’re sitting ducks.

On Cavil’s ship, Boomer weeps at the realization that she’s taking part in the destruction of her sister models.

“Remember, they started it,

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

This is directly from the mouths of the dimokrats:

{{{{Reports from Indiana polling places confirmed that record numbers of Republicans were taking Democratic ballots to vote against Obama. And Limbaugh himself bragged about the success of his effort on his radio show today.}}}}

It would have been all over yesterday, a done deal, but because of Operation Chaos, Bruno has risen from her coffin, alive and well, and will resume terrorizing thee dimokrat party.

And providing us wingnuts with much amusement.

Bwa.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

FUNS JUST ABOUT OVER FOR MCCAIN

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Some of Obama’s speech in N. Carolina last night:

{{“The people I’ve met in small towns and big cities across this country understand that government can’t solve all our problems - and we don’t expect it to. We believe in hard work. We believe in personal responsibility and self-reliance.

“But we also believe that we have a larger responsibility to one another as Americans - that America is a place - that America is the place - where you can make it if you try. That no matter how much money you start with or where you come from or who your parents are, opportunity is yours if you’re willing to reach for it and work for it. It’s the idea that while there are few guarantees in life, you should be able to count on a job that pays the bills; health care for when you need it; a pension for when you retire; an education for your children that will allow them to fulfill their God-given potential. That’s the America we believe in. That’s the America I know.”}}

Barack Obama says he is not “the perfect messenger”, but he will certainly be the best POTUS starting in January ‘09!

By mm

May 7, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Devil,

Great oratory may be a precursor to a great president. We know what kind of failure Bush has been. It should have been noted that his oratory gaffes were a precursor to his presidential gaffes.

Some notable quotes from Bush :

“I know how hard it is for you put food on your family.” 01/27/2000

“I understand small-business growth. I was one.” 02/19/2000

“It’s going to require numerous IRA agents.” 10/10/2000

“My pan plays down an unprecedented amount of our national debt.” 02/27/2001

“There’s no question that the minute I got elected, the storm clouds on the horizon were getting nearly directly overhead”. 05/11/2001

“Do you have blacks, too?” 11/08/2001

“I want to thank you for taking time out of your day to come and witness my hanging.” 01/01/2002

“See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don’t attack each other. Free nations don’t develop weapons of mass destruction.” 10/03/2003

“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” 08/05/2004

“It’s in our country’s interest to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm’s way.” 04/28/2005

“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” 05/24/2005

By Paul

May 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Bosch

“Remember, they started it,” Cavil said, adding, “They can trust in their God to watch over their immortal souls,”

“And what about ours?” she asks.

Cavil responds, “We’re machines, dear, remember? We don’t have souls.”

I wondered if Leoban’s last thought was always “I wonder if it’s going to hurt as much this time?”

Daniel

Thppppbttt

:-)

ITN 10:58

I’ll wager that what’s going to matter in the general is, who can make the stronger case regarding whose votes most often, or most significantly, bucked their Party.

Obama gave a decent response on Fox News Sunday, but he’s going to have to ramp it up for the general.

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Paul Wolfowitz has said “We were clueless” about Iraq; Richard Perlman has recanted, Doug Feith is teaching at Georgetown, Libby is a convicted felon, Cunningham and Ney are in prison, DeLay is under indictment, the ship is deserting the sinking rat. Perhaps a photo-op with Bush in a codpiece on a carrier will pick things up.

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Just an observation, but why is it the conservatives here always get accused of posting under multiple ID’s, but it’s the moonbat(ic)s® that always get caught actually doing it?

Bosch, at least you fessed up when you got yourself caught. Midori and finch did the same thing you did, but still tried to deny it.

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

truthman @ 10:33 — can I get an Amen, bro’?!!

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Paul

“Obama gave a decent response on Fox News Sunday, but he’s going to have to ramp it up for the general.”

No duh. To quote the kiddies.

It would not have been effective to tear Hillary limb from limb during primary season - we’ll need some of her loyalists.

Remember the old Warner Brothers cartoon? Bugs and Daffy - it’s rabbit season NO! it’s duck season!

With nominee status…. we switch to OPEN SEASON, on McCain that is.

It’s McCain Season! It’s Republican Season!

For everything there is a season….

It’s perfectly ok, in fact expected, to rip him a new one!

By Paul

May 7, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

ITN

That was pretty poor - not knowing how he’d cut programs, so they assume (you know the real meaning of that word, yes?) Social Security and take the horror from there.

McCain’s already said he wants an evaluation of every department and program (but not Defense, for which I criticize him but your Wonkers don’t).

So, do we infer from the article the Wonkers don’t want to touch the Dept of Agriculture? That they’re fine with the Agriculture Bill?

Amazinger and amazinger.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Big Oil’s Corporate Welfare: Doing The Numbers

CHECK the graph at the bottom of this link…

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

RW,

I caught myself. I never have a problem with admitting a screw up. We’re only human, and we all get frustrated.

I ate some baaaaaddddd sushi yesterday - Floyd did me wrong. Nothing like getting sick on sushi. No more for me.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

ITN 11:18

I didn’t follow that.

Chris Wallace noted McCain’s work on specific legislation with Democrats, which angered many Republicans. (As an aside, it wasn’t too long ago McCain was referred to as the Dem’s favorite Republican).

Obama answered with a list of examples of his bipartisan cooperation.

It may be that rather than looking backwards (he does have a shorter history than Mccain, after all) he needs to pick out past Rep proposals and cite those as areas where they will find common ground in enacting his proposals.

By AmVet

May 7, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Daniel,

An absolutely brilliant recap of the worst president and administration in American history.

Fortunately Bushco has absolutely wrecked conservatism and the GOP for years to come and the American voters are once again going to exercise some serious Republican blood letting this fall.

Does anybody remember Lucko’s toon “The pot calling the kettle black”?

Exhibit 1:

{{{Just an observation, but why is it the conservatives here always get accused of posting under multiple ID’s…}}}

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

INT - you make a mistake. You expound when your knowledge is limited. Plessy v. Ferguson is, though, a great example of judicial activism when, indeed, the court DID make FEDERAL law and set policy, defying and in effect overturning a constitutional law known as the Civil Rights Act of 1866. It was distructive, activist populism which flew in the face of the Congress and the Constitution, which dictates that federal laws supercede state laws when they are in conflict. Because of the 14th Amendment, the Civil Rights Act of 1866 was perfectly constitutional.

However, I was not referring to the first Justice Harlan, I was referring to the second, who left the United States Supreme Court shortly before his death in 1971, shortly after the resignation of another LIBERAL strict constructionist, Hugo Black.

Judicial activism is NEVER a good thing, unless you just want to stop electing legislatures and allow presidents to stack courts and rule by judicial fiat.

Indeed, since rulings on the constitution have the effect of law, then they are, in fact, the law.

Please tell me from what Cracker Jack box you got your law degree?

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

I heard Floyd was passing off carp as catfish. I think he also doubles as N-GA’s financial adviser/barber.

By getalife

May 7, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Well, the white folks gave Obama a free pass on his pastor and did not choose the fighter. Looks like McGovern is switching to the new McGovern and this long ridiculuos process the dems call an election is coming to an end.

Of course, Obama will do nothing on gas prices and the fighter is out. So, get use to use to higher gas prices and try to adapt.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Okay, so each model has their own Resurrection ship that jumps with them?

So why didn’t Sixes’ and Leoban’s and Sharon’s Resurrection ship jump with them? Did Cavil somehow get them to turn against them? Did Cavil destroy their Resurrection Ships too? That’s where I’m confused.

I forgot about the Sharon/Cavil moment. They destroy the human race because they felt it was only a matter of time before the humans did themselves in, and in what a couple years, they are already doing it to themselves - all the while believing in their one true God. Interesting.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

And Paul,

Isn’t it weird that Cavil was posing as a priest before he got caught?

It could be commentary on religion - either polytheistic or monotheistic -is just a bunch of crap. The first three seasons I had trouble distinguishing the good guys from the bad guys, and the Cylons always believed in their one true God, but it was a little twist this season when they turned on each other because they didn’t share a belief (not to lobotomize their own).

Oh, I just love that show.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

Do you ever consider that activism can go both ways? As it certainly has over the past few years.

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

AmVet: You hit the nail on the head! Bushco are not conservatives. They are as close to American Fascists as you can get. Limbaugh is their icon. They have corrupted the republican party. The Limbaugh chaos plan is a case in point. It is not about what is best for America; It is about what is best for the right-wing.

The question is this: “Is McCain owned by them?”

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Also, Mr. Devil,

Can you name ONE court case where the decision was based on a radical liberal activist judge’s absolute erroneous interpretation of the law?

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

getalife - Neither McCain nor Hillary will do anything about gas prices either because none of the above wants to drill for more domestically. ANWR is an option. The Gulf of Mexico IS an option. Oil shale in Colorado IS an option. Drilling in North Dakota IS an option. Alternative, ‘green’ sources of energy sound good, but where are they? Until then, we are stuck with oil and the only way to get prices down is to get more of it. Getting it from overseas is what we have been doing, but that, too, is really NOT an option anymore.

Complaining about corporate profits and taxing them more is also not a solution because they will just raise the prices to make up the difference. And if we follow the European model and nationalize the oil companies, then we will really be screwed because, well, just look at the prices in Europe.

Do you really want to pay $8 to $10 dollars a gallon for gas? That IS what will happen when you have no competition and it all goes to Big Brother. There then will be ZERO incentive for anyone to develop alternative sources of energy for the fear that they will have it all taken away, just as happend to the nationalized oil companies. Why do you think that there were next to no medical breakthroughs in the Soviet bloc for so many years. When they introduced incentives into medicine, all of a sudden r.k. was born. The inventer of the procedure became a millionaire!

Yes, this is the second coming of George McGovern/Jimmy Carter, the worst of both worlds. Enjoy!

By Paul

May 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

Bosch

I don’t think so. I think Resurrection Ships serve all - based on prior episodes.

The religious/philosophical angles are great, aren’t they?

I’ve been scanning old documents this morning - ‘bout done so off to other duties.

Talk with you late today -

getalife

I was thinking of the irony - Hillary’s best interview came on Fox with Bill O Reilly. Too bad it wasn’t earlier in the season.

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Sorry Blowhard. I didn’t mean to leave you out of the ever growing list of moonbat(ic)s® that have been caught posting under multiple ID’s. How many have you had? I lost count ages ago.

By Copyleft

May 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

THe Devil You Read: I notice you’re also pretending that fuel-efficiency standards don’t exist or can’t happen, in your claim that “If they won’t drill, they’re not doing anything about gas prices.”

The oil boys are TERRIFIED that someone will bring this up.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

So, is anybody going on vacation this year?

Any thoughts on Chinese demand for oil causing the price increases?

Any thoughts on the Chinese laughing their collective a*******es off at us right now?

By AmVet

May 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

The short answer to your question is, “Who knows?”

Sometimes he seems to be a good Republican Party apparatchik.

But he has also demonstrated a long history of not always playing nice with the GOP power brokers and their usually demented ideas.

And they absolutely loathe him for it.

The most encouraging thing to me is how these right wing lunatic fringe nut jobs also despise him. (Some have hedged their bets and now hold their festering tongues, but let’s face it, they had NUMEROUS other candidates more to their liking).

And remember recently when the “Christian” frauds and con-men spoke openly of finding a third party candidate because he was not “conservative” enough?

The fact that he is clearly not one of them, bodes enormously well for the nation.

But no matter how this plays out, the irrefutable fact is that NO neo-con will again sit in the West Wing.

Let us hope that they NEVER EVER again do…

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I’m having a moment of clarity - Leoban said last week that he was out of range of the Resurrection ship. So I guess that means that his model isn’t actually dead. They’ve just kind of got the Sixes/Sharons/Leobans cut off so they can’t download.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

Funny how European nations ARE developing alternate energy sources. Kind of blows your theory, huh?

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

Most republicans have lost under Bushco. The “genius” of Rove is to consistently get people to vote against their own interests.

Through “Rev. Wright”, gay marriage, guns, phony machismo and bogus religion the right-wing captures a certain segment of the population. They then divide America for their benefit.

Both Obama and McCain have a broad appeal. Let’s hope America can benefit from them.

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

{{Judicial activism is NEVER a good thing,}}

The Devil @ 11:44 — this is something we may agree on, because that’s how Ameri