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By Mike Luckovich | Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 10:10 PM

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By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

Don’t you just love it when the pinko liberals create a disaster, i.e. high gas prices because of no domestic oil production, and then they rub OUR faces in it?

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This story could have been written by a machine, after all, it follows the same script as all the others have:

{{{{Aid >>>trickles<<< in after cyclone-Urinal}}}}

How long before blah, blah, America sucks, blah, blah, even Osama has bin Laden gave more money, blah, blah?

{{{{Using tragedy to advance an agenda has been a strategy for many global warming activists, and it was just a matter of time before someone found a way to tie the recent Myanmar cyclone to global warming.}}}}

{{{{Former Vice President Al Gore in an interview on NPR’s May 6 “Fresh Air” broadcast did just that.}}}}

Taking advantage of a horrific loss of life to promote junk science, blaming the mankind that they hate for a disaster caused by nature.

Sick.

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This story could have been written by a Urinal Editorial Board machine:

{{{{THE SCENE IN INDIANA AND NORTH CAROLINA: Without ID, a dozen nuns turned away-Urinal}}}}

Dozens of nuns!

Gee, I wonder if they came to vote for the two dimokrat sodomites?

Oh yeah, RC church perverts, I forgot.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

RC PERVERTS?

LIKE HANNITY?

LIKE O’REILLY?

By truthman

May 7, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

Man-o-man!!

Our man Obama is in the driver’s seat for sure.

Get ready for great changes in America come 01-20-09!!

‘09 will be just fine for liberals and progressives who believe in the rule of law and who respect the Constitution.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:09

I like the way The Huffington Post reports it - McCain “did not gain more than 80 percent of the vote.”

What happened to “twenty percent of hardcore ultrarightwing conservative fundamentalist neocons don’t have a candidate”?

But seriously, why is that a bad thing? To have a mainstream candidate?

Oh yeah, that would rather put a stop to all the “same as Bush Administration” talk, wouldn’t it? But it is The Huffington Post, after all. and Arianna has to keep the angst up and the dollars flowing in.

Rule of thumb: 20-25 percent of a population will hold to just about anything. Which is why, in the general, we’ll see a replay of this headline “Obama (Hillary) did not gain more than 80 percent (more likely 75 percent) of the Democratic vote.” (Huffington Post running that was my joke for the day).

By Paul

May 7, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:10

Isn’t it a little early in the season for reruns?

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

PAUL

Nice explanation. Reasoned.

However, it remains that a quarter of republicans can’t stand McCain.

For all of McCain’s and the GOP’s own “angst” THEY can’t seem to keep dollars flowing in.

That is not at all surprising.

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

My goodness, the Urinal published their own little “Why We Fight” segment and I seriously doubt if they are even aware of it:

{{{{Three women were killed in an attack on a brothel in the northern city of Mosul on Monday. The Americans blamed the attack on al-Qaida insurgents, but local police did not speculate on who carried out the killings. Iraqi police said the women were prostitutes. There has been a string of attacks against women deemed immoral in recent months, including the bombing of hair styling salons and frequent slayings of women not wearing traditional clothing in the southern city of Basra.-Urinal}}}}

I’m not advocating prostitution and I am for damn sure not glorifying religious extremist terrorism against woman, like the Urinal is.

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{{{{The long-dormant Chaiten volcano in southern Chile blasted ash some 20 miles into the Andean sky on Tuesday, forcing thousands to evacuate and fouling a huge stretch of the South American continent.-Urinal}}}}

Well, well, we have a mini post global warming fallout world, the air filled with warming gases from this volcano and surprise, surprise, the people just survive and return to normal.

~~~~~

{{{{Despite losing in Indiana, Obama put some questions to rest tonight. Most importantly, he demonstrated that he could weather the kind of firestorm created by his controversial former pastor Jeremiah Wright after two weeks of the more intense scrutiny he has faced thus far in the campaign.}}}}

Yeah, sure thing, “questions” on whether his fellow America hating dimokrats will vote for him.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:17

Ten Million people tuned into O’Reilly’s show to watch the interview with Hillary. Ten million. (That may be more people than those who watch MSNBC for an entire day).

It doesn’t count the millions who heard the replay on the radio show.

Or the millions who watched clips on YouTube.

Even The Huffington Post said, begrudgingly, it was the best policy interview of the season.

I’ll bet the numbers will be higher when Obama goes on.

So to put O’Reilly’s journalism in the same category as partisan entertainers is a bit off the mark, I think.

Your 8:40

Again, why is that a bad thing? (Rhetorical question).

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Paul

8:36

Nope

Great books need to be re-read.

Great movies are watched over and over.

Folks buy entire c/d sets of their favorite programs from television.

Important information needs airing - repeatedly.

Sorry if it tries your patience.

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

And now for the good news:

{{{{A third of Clinton voters in Indiana, and slightly more of them in North Carolina, told exit pollsters that they will support John McCain in general election over Obama should he win the nomination. Fewer of Obama voters said they would support McCain over Clinton but majorities of supporters for both candidates in both states said would be dissatisfied if the other won the nomination.}}}}

Plus:

{{{{In a late-night speech here, Clinton said that “it would be a little strange to have a nominee chosen by 48 states.”}}}}

{{{{Her aides also tried to stoke concerns yesterday among elected officials and party leaders, known as superdelegates, about whether Obama could win in November, with one warning of an “October surprise” that could ruin his chances.}}}}

This ain’t over by a long shot.

Bwa.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:44

Clever. Good one.

But in rereading books or rewatching movies, I generally learn something new or see a different slant.

AJC Management 8:48

Your citing of another example of Islamic fundamentalist’s treatment of women: it’s struck me as amazing that our own domestic equal-rights, stop oppression, etc. Democrats and liberals haven’t expressed outrage over these repeated attacks on women. They’ll take up the cause for racial oppression (South Africa) or worker oppression (Spkr Pelosi’s reason for opposing the free trade agreement with Columbia) - but horrific oppression against women?

Silence. Absolutely amazing.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

This race is starting to remind me too much of the 1976 presidential race. The Republicans will take it on the chin in the Congressional elections. Jimmy Carter II (Barry H. Obama) will eke out a victory doing something no Demoncrat has ever done, win without carrying ONE Southern state. We have some inflation now, but it is not bad. We have deficits, but compared to the GDP, it is actually lower than the deficits of the Ford Administration.

After Jimmy II, we will have rampant inflation, energy prices through the roof and a stagnating economy. Our foreign policy will be an even bigger disaster than Carter’s. We will leave Iraq and Iran will fill the void. Al Qaeda will take up residence because it will be a safe haven. It will be like Vietnam all over again. It will be IMPOSSIBLE politically to go back in.

The ‘good’ news for Republicans is that 2010 will be a wonderful year politically. It will be a repeat of 1930, with the party out of power making massive gains. 2012 will be even better for Republicans with a charismatic true conservative a la Ronald Reagan.

McCain is a weak candidate and he MIGHT pull out a victory, but I am afraid at this point that he is Ford II and carries too much baggage from an unpopular administration.

If you demagogs think that things are bad now, just think back to those ‘good old days’ of the late 1970s with gas lines and stagflation and a misery index of around 20. Currently it is at 8.

By the way, old Dummy Carter invented that little measure of political fortune. It came back to bite him in his meager lilly white behind.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Paul

“So to put O’Reilly’s journalism in the same category as partisan entertainers is a bit off the mark, I think.”

WHO DID THAT?

YOU’RE MAKIN’ THAT UP!!!

ALL I DID WAS QUESTION BUDDY-BOYS RC PERVERT STATEMENT. (see little ricky’s first post this morning)

Come on dude, stay with the program.

(Although calling BOR a journalist is really, REALLY a stretch)

(OK, so now I’ve done it!)

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

ANOTHER REASON NOT TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

The do-nothing Repugs will face the music this November! They have no ideas for the future, other than more-of-the-same nothing.

Obama/Clinton ‘08!

By Paul

May 7, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:44

The attorney’s piece in your Crooks and Liars makes a fundamental mistake many make in such analyses: they equate decisions on matters of law that go against their policy preferences as “bad judging.”

In many of these cases, the actual issue is irrelevant. Topic is A. Question is: is there a Constitutional provision N to support/oppose this? Does it conflict with past Court holdings? That leads to decision D.

But the attorney does not like the implication for her policy preferences. So rather than state “Case C sought to create a right R under Legislation L while the Court held Congress exempted R from the Legislation” she simply writes it off as bad judges.

Which is why the author works for a policy ADVOCACY group.

Oh, and she’s a lobbyist.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

ITN - I might agree with you about O’Reilly because he is a jerk and not a conservative. He is a populist and a rabble rouser. However, please tell me how Hannity is a pervert?

By the way, some of the biggest perverts I have ever known have also been atheists, Hindus, Jews, MUSLIMS, Mormons and other assorted people. Perversion seems to be endemic and not limited to one group or another. Yes we have hypocrites, but that is, unfortunately, human nature.

Please don’t paint with too broad a brush. It betrays you as the narrow-minded sychophant that you are.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:56

It’s how I read your 8:17

“RC PERVERTS?

LIKE HANNITY?

LIKE O’REILLY?”

I haven’t a clue what an “RC Pervert” is, but as examples you gave Hannity and O’Reilly. As they were, together, provided as an example of something else, I took that as lumping them together.

Okay, I just read to the end of your post. You’re right - a lot of different names for the same person going on here.

Your last sentence - only if you want to allege Boston University’s master’s program in Broadcast Journalism isn’t really a journalism degree. Or a Master’s in Public Administration from the John F Kennedy’s School of Government doesn’t have a tie-in to journalism. Or that Emmys aren’t given for journalism.

Devil You Say 8:56

I’d imagine Obama would carry more than a few southern states - no polls to back it up - just an opinion based on watching the primary results.

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

{{{{“The reality is that, historically, tax revenues in the oil sector dwarf corporate profits, >>>>meaning the real windfalls in the industry have gone to government<<<<. Shining a spotlight on government’s role in increasing prices is more productive than reactionary attacks and policies that would include higher taxes and, thus, even higher prices.”}}}}

Yeah, Big Government, hahaha.

Morons.

~~~~~

Too much to bracket>>>

“[A]s the campaign progressed, I found him getting under my skin in a way that very few people have. When our paths crossed during the campaign, I often had to suppress the rather uncharitable urge to either taunt him or wring his neck,” Obama writes.

How did Keyes do this? By questioning Obama’s Christian faith.

“Christ could not vote for Barack Obama,” Mr. Keyes once said, “because Barack Obama has voted…in a way that it is inconceivable for Christ to have behaved.”

It touched a nerve in Obama and he was by his own account tongued-tied, irritable and tense during their debates. Keyes prodded Obama on the question of biblical literalism.

How could Obama believe the Bible’s proclamation that life was sacred and yet support abortion rights, Keyes would ask? Obama gave “the usual liberal response” about separation of church and state.

“[Y]et even as I answered, I was mindful of Mr. Keyes’s implicit accusation — that I remained steeped in doubt, that my faith was adulterated, that I was not a true Christian,” Obama complains.

Well, it wouldn’t have annoyed him that much if Keyes wasn’t onto something.

By Devastator

May 7, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

I would like to thank Hillary Clinton and all her supporters for a good long fight.

America is about to embark upon a necessary political, social, and economic change that will continue to catalpult us into a better, more prosperous country.

Yes we can!!!

By mm

May 7, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Do you wingnuts really think the defeated Clinton supporters would vote for McCain in November? Dream on. McCain is a poison pill for the GOP. Actually, I don’t think Reagan himself could pull off a victory this year after 7 years of Bush/Cheney.

Even with you clowns voting for Clinton in primaries, you could not defeat Obama.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

ITN - I hate to burst your little partisan bubble, but like it or not, O’Reilly is every bit as much a journalist as Dan Rather, Perky Katie Couric, Brian Williams, Tim Russert or George Stepanopoulos. And I think that anyone who actually WATCHED the O’Reilly interview with Hillary Clinton was impressed. He was relatively tough (I wish that he had been tougher), but he was fair. The Hillary camp had no real objections.

Obama will NOT submit to an O’Reilly interview because he does not like tough questions. He whined about that after the ABC Debate before the Pennsylvania Primary. If you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen. Obama wants to be in the refrigerator.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

ITN - I hate to burst your little partisan bubble, but like it or not, O’Reilly is every bit as much a journalist as Dan Rather, Perky Katie Couric, Brian Williams, Tim Russert or George Stepanopoulos. And I think that anyone who actually WATCHED the O’Reilly interview with Hillary Clinton was impressed. He was relatively tough (I wish that he had been tougher), but he was fair. The Hillary camp had no real objections.

Obama will NOT submit to an O’Reilly interview because he does not like tough questions. He whined about that after the ABC Debate before the Pennsylvania Primary. If you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen. Obama wants to be in the refrigerator.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

AJC Management 9:18

One question on that topic gives me pause: many churches that oppose abortion have abortion exemptions in cases or rape or incest.

But if life begins at conception, and is therefore sacred and to be preserved, what difference does the circumstance of conception make?

By Devastator

May 7, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Devil,

Of course the Hillary camp had no objections, he wasn’t tough enough with her! You just admitted that in your post.

That interview, along with the shared gas tax proposal of Clinton/McCain was just an attempt to stop Obama.

The ABC moderators ambushed Obama, therefore Obama and his supporters complained, O’Reilly didn’t ambush Clinton, therefore she didn’t complain.

Its not rocket science dude.

By mm

May 7, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

GOP loss could threaten leadership

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Paul - he will no more carry any Southern states than Walter Mondale did in 1984 or Jesse Jackson would have. It really does not boil down to race as too many claim. It boils down to party preference. The only state that Obama has even a prayer of carrying right now in the South is Louisiana, and that is too slim. The Republican trend among white voters in the South is just too strong.

Obama is likely to win with what political historians call the ‘Lincoln’ combination. It is rather like a ‘hat trick’ which is only pulled off every 150 years or so. That was John Anderson’s dream in 1980, but he was rather a fool. Obama has a real chance to do it.

BTW - overwhelming results in a primary do not necessarily translate into strenght in a state. It speaks more to organization and enthusism of the base. The best example that I can think of off the top of my head is Goldwater winning the Republican primary against Rockefeller in 1964!

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

{{{{By mm May 7, 2008 9:20 AM Do you wingnuts really think the defeated Clinton supporters would vote for McCain in November? Dream on.}}}}

I don’t think it has anything to do with McBushie.

But it does have a lot to do with Obambi.

Seig Heil, you little klanners, you!

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 9:06

“The attorney’s piece in your Crooks and Liars makes a fundamental mistake many make in such analyses: they equate decisions on matters of law that go against their policy preferences as “bad judging.”

I’m sorry to break this to you…. but this is a credentials fight you just plain can’t win.

I’d like to welcome Kathryn Kolbert from PFAW to the pages of C&L. (Kathryn has been recognized repeatedly by The National Law Journal as one of the “100 Most Influential Lawyers in America)

BIG LAWYER vs. Paul the mild blogger?

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Devil

“”ITN - I hate to burst your little partisan bubble, but like it or not, O’Reilly is every bit as much a journalist as Dan Rather, Perky Katie Couric, Brian Williams, Tim Russert or George Stepanopoulos.”“”

YOU DIDN’T EVEN COME CLOSE TO BURSTING MY BUBBLE…..

HOWever, I did have a good laugh at your expense.

It’s pretty much a daily thing now….

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Poor Hillary — all that name recognition and dominance of the Dem Party… so why could she never close the deal???

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Hillary did not complain because the questions were fair. She also saw the damage in whining. If Obama was ambushed, then it was because he is either naive or a fool, and neither one is good in a president. The Wright and Ayers contraversies were out there for all to see. It was inevitable that they would be brought up. He was unprepared because during previous press conferences he had been treated with kid gloves because, frankly, the word ‘reporter’ should have been replaced by ‘supporter’ when describing those asking the questions. That is not rocket science.

Obama better watch out. Sooner or later, he is going to have a Ted Kennedy moment (remember the Roger Mudd interview and the Tom Jerrel interview?), and he will be left babbling.

I watched his speech last night and once again it was all sound and fury signifying NOTHING. It sounded good, but no substance and nothing that stuck with me. He kept talking about change and hope and a hope for change, but it frankly was rather redundant and boring. Hillary was much the same.

He is too much like Mark Hanna’s description of William Jennings Bryan - “He reminds me of the River Platt in Nebraska: an inch deep and a mile wide at the mouth.” Or to quote Senator William Jenner from Indiana when speaking of Governor Averell Harriman of New York: “He’s thin boys, thin as p** on a rock.”

By Paul

May 7, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

ITN

And you were doing so well, now back to repeats. I can’t remember from my classes, but I’m sure there’s a term for “when you can’t counter an argument, try to belittle your opponent and ignore the topic.”

Oh yeah, I remember the class: Liberal Politics 101.

You may want to reread my earlier post: I cited her credentials. Didn’t mention she was President of People for the American Way, though. Just strengthens my contention she’s an activist (lobbyist) with multiple causes, and being a lawyer, tries to get her policy preferences implemented through the courts.

Not through legislation. Where most try to make law. Hint: just apply the same principles to the Legislative and Judicial branches you repeatedly cite in complaining how the Executive (Pres Bush) is trying to usurp, take over, crush, the Legislative (Congress).

I know you can do better than that.

By just for the record:

May 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Good morning bloggers!

Had to go to WalMart which I really hate, but anyway, and the other Bosch and I were laughing about how smart China was. For years, they’ve flooded our markets with junk and us materialistic Americans have bought it up because it was cheap and we could buy more stuff - you know how we Americans love our stuff and the more the better. And now, China owns our country with loans, buying up the dollar etc. and they have such a demand for fuel, they are the ones who can afford it, we are stuck with cheap Chinese crap, inflated prices, unaffordable fuel, etc. while the Chinese sit back and laugh and laugh. I’ve always said that wars don’t have to be fought with guns, and Americans do not understand the patience of those in the Middle East and China. People don’t have enough sense to see that we’ve just lost a war - an economic war - which is alot more detrimental than anything al-Qaeda could throw at us.

Vacation? Not taking one this year - with a kid going off to college, and the price of everything, just saving my government check for a rainy day and text books.

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

The Devil @ 9:36 — Obama also has a great chance to win VA in November… no one believes McBush will win that southern state!

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

ITN - you are making the mistake that too many have made before you, conservative and liberal. Activist judges are BAD judges. We have elections and a legislative process to make laws. Judges should NEVER make laws. Please read the constitution. That is why we have separation of powers. Montesquieu, Locke and Hume refined the idea building upon the British system and we implemented it.

Judges should NOT have compassion. They should be DISinterested and DISpassionate. They should be neutral. The worst justice EVER on the Supreme Court was William O. Douglas because he was just a blatant activist. The best ever was probably John Marshall Harlan because he was just the opposite, but no one EVER accused him of being too conservative!!

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Oh no, I’m so busted! I had enough of Dusty yesterday. Seems I was the coward. Oh how funny.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Paul,

““when you can’t counter an argument, try to belittle your opponent and ignore the topic.”

Oh yeah, I remember the class: Liberal Politics 101”

Sure it’s “liberal” politics 101?

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Paul - your 9:54 post is right on except that you failed to note that Bush can ONLY block legislation, he cannot do anything to actually usurp legislative authority.

Presidents can do a bit of stonewalling, as Andrew Jackson did when he famously said of the Supreme Court order forbidding the removal of the Five Civilized Tribes to Oklahoma. Remember what he said -“It is the Supreme Court’s order, let them enforce it.” He also destroyed the Bank of America, and the nation’s financial system along with it, by defying the law. Jackson, of course, is still the quentissential populist, liberal Democrat. Republicans have a completely different philosophy of government. I have yet to see Bush behave so blatantly.

By Devastator

May 7, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Devil,

Thanks for your opinions concerning his speech last night. Question: Did you also happen to notice the election results? I’m sure that was nothing too right?

Who cares about the speech when you’re busy kicking a$$!

Why don’t you just say you don’t support Obama and leave it at that. Your comments are the same as the Clinton campaign’s: a failure!

By Paul

May 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Hi Bosch

I was referring to Number 2 - Leobon Conoy. Don’t know how I got Lysander - a Spartan - out of that. Must’ve been late. But he’s the religiously-inclined one, the oneness of it all. Could be foreshadowing -

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Who really believes that the Clintons are not among the “elites” in America? How many of us average Josephines would be able to spend over $11 MILLION in order to pursue a political dream?

WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton lent her presidential campaign $6.4 million over the past month, her campaign said Wednesday, underscoring the financial advantage held by her rival, Barack Obama.

By N-GA

May 7, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

If Jesus Christ came back (ala the Messiah of Morris Avenue), even he would have a difficult time trying to right this ship of state. That, of course, assumes that he is not (re-)crucified by the religious right for heresy.

Paul,

If you wonder where the outrage from the left over the misstreatment of women is, are you suggesting that they should be the only ones to speak out? What about this administration? What about the religious right? What about the Catholics? What about women’s rights groups? What about the media? Perhaps the real question should be “Why is there such a collective silence over the murder and rape of women in Iraq, Iran, Sudan, etc.?”

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Devastator — Obama’s speech was brilliant last night, and it was just a preview of our campaign against McBush’s more-of-the-same dead-in-the-water campaign!

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Paul….

Sorry you are insulted that you are not one of the nations top 100 lawyers. That’s something only you can resolve. Don’t blame the liberals because you are just a blogger.

Devil…

Judges don’t make laws. It is impossible.

You make the mistake dude. Activism is a good thing. In fact it’s a GREAT thing. It’s a citizenship thing.

Warren Berger you dirty activist you!

Earl Warren you filthy activist!

William Rehnquist you nasty activist!

Gimme an ACTIVIST over a lemming or couch potatoe anyday!

AND THAT JOHN MARSHALL HARLAN GUY….

“Harlan is best known for his eloquent dissent in the 1896 case, Plessy vs Ferguson, which upheld a Louisiana law requiring blacks and whites to ride in separate railroad cars. Harlan criticized the Court’s adoption of the “separate but equal” doctrine in these memorable words: “Our Constitution is color blind and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens.” “

” After hearing Parden’s plea and reading a transcript of the federal district court hearing, Harlan persuaded a majority of Supreme Court justices to gather the next day at the home of Chief Justice Fuller. Harlan’s impassioned plea and his expressed belief that Tennessee was about to execute an innocent man convinced his colleagues to stay Johnson’s execution and schedule arguments in the case. It was a rare victory in a day in which “state’s rights” usually prevailed. “

SORRY BUT THAT WHOLE BUSINESS OF MEETINGS AT THE CHIEFS HOUSE AND IMPASSIONED PLEA SOUNDS….

SOUNDS….WELL IT SOUNDS >>>>

PRETTY DAMN ACTIVIST.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

I did happen to note the election results. However, the speech was still a thin bunch of pap. He said nothing substantive. He whipped up a base and ran a good campaign. However, great oratory alone does not make a great leader. Benjamin Harrison was possibly the greatest orator ever to be elected president, but can you name even one accomplishment of his presidency?

I know I will be excoriated for this, but Hitler and Mussolini were FANTASTIC orators, and, well, we know what happened with them. Not to say that is really a prerequisit for being a tyrant because both Lenin and Stalin were TERRIBLE orators, but they still inspired great loyalty.

Jefferson was a very poor speaker and Lincoln had a very poor style of delivery. However, they were great writers in an era when literate people got ALL of their news through print.

Yes, I guess it’s nice to run a person who has ‘star’ quality for president in this electronic age, but it does not mean that he has ‘gravitas.’

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Obama’s campaign of Old vs. New will continue all the way through November — and what a stark contrast the American voters will see in the October debates between Obama and McBush:

Last week, not a soul in politics would have predicted that Obama would win North Carolina by 14 points and virtually tie in Indiana. But through a combination of luck and smarts, the campaign ended on the theme that Obama ran on: Old politics vs. new politics.

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

ITN @ 10:20 — and let’s not forget about those “activist judges” on the Supreme Court in the fall of 2000! The Repugs certainly felt comfortable with that activism when it was in their favor…

By truthman

May 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

I will say this about Bill-O:

He is the winner emeritus of KO’s “Worst Person in the World” award, which should be renamed “The Bill O’Really Worst Person in the World” award.

BTW: Who cares if Obama doesn’t win a single southern state! Most of the southern states are completely out of touch with the rest of America. Down here it’s god, guns and “gooooolly!!!

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross!”

-Sinclair Lewis, 1937

By Paul

May 7, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Bosch 10:05

I could have said Conservative Politics 101, too, but I was addressing ITN and in the context of the post it just seemed to fit better.

Devil You Say 10:08

I wouldn’t mind seeing a little consistency. As I noted, some attack the Bush Administration for trying to usurp Congress. In some cases, they have. Part of the age-old tension and jockeying between the branches. That, plus the VP used to serve in Congress - then the Executive - and I think he felt things had tilted, in some areas, too much towards the Legislative.

But the same people will then justify bypassing Congress to get their policies enacted through the Court.

Maybe it’s because they can’t get their policies enacted through the Congress? Just a thought -

N-GA 10:17

An excellent point. Many are remiss. But to do that, people would have to be willing to weather the criticisms of cultural imperialism, imposing Western values, etc etc. I was thinking more about what’s recognized in this country as the progressive voice for women.

But I like your collective better.

THAT would make a great theme for a candidate to pick up on -

By truthman

May 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Devil. Do you EVER make a point?

SSDD…blah, blah, blah…Rush will win the election for McCain…blah, blah, blah…Hillary scares me because she’s a strong woman…blah, blah, blah…Obama bad black man, he scare me, too…blah, blah, blah…operation chaos…blah, blah, blah…O’Reilly is Henry W. Grady…

Please, when we bed-wetting, godless liberals win this November, please move to a country where theology is law of the land…say, Iran! You’ll fit in quite nicely with the other religious zealots.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Leoban said that he couldn’t resurrect now, what is the deal with that? I know they blew up Number Six’s ship after she had those others shot, but I couldn’t follow along with what exactly was going on.

I like Leoban - I always felt kind of sorry for him when Starbuck kept stabbing him.

By Devastator

May 7, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Devil,

First you say it wasn’t a good speech, and then you equate him to great speakers. You might want to see a shrink about your “Hating Speakers” issue.

Goldie,

Yes we can!!!!

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

11 Trillion in debt, housing crises, jobs to Asia, war in Iraq, gas prices sky high, dollar down, inflation up, republicans in prison, 2 billion a day borrowed from China, $4500 a second spent in Iraq, 4071 dead, 1000 attempted suicides a month. Can we talk about Rev. Wright.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Bosch

Cut and paste from a couple of synopses (okay, I violate my “let’s make fun of people who use Latin forms, but “synopsises” just sounded kind of dorky):

Cylon base ship: The vote has been taken, and the Cylons are deadlocked on the issue of reconfiguring the Raiders. But, something extraordinary has happened — one of the Sharons, Boomer, voted against the rest of the models. Well, that never happens. Cavil takes that as license to reconfigure the Raiders, observing that the Six is right, something has changed.

Cavil and his raiders lobotomize the Raiders…

Cavil orders the Centurions to leave. They don’t obey. Six reveals the Sixes, the Leobens, the Sharons removed the inhibitors that restricted higher functioning in the Centurions, giving them the gift of reason. And they were very upset that the Cavils ordered the Raiders to be lobotomized. The Centurions open fire on the other models. A coup has begun.

The Cylon baseship: Brother Cavil (Dean Stockwell) resurrects, and is greeted by another Cavil and Boomer/Turncoat Sharon, who gives him a passionate kiss hello. Later, he goes before two other Sharons and a Six (Tricia Helfer), who inform him that they want the D’Annas (Lucy Lawless) — the Threes — back online. Cavil resists, but he doesn’t have much hope of getting his way: Six asks the Centurions to escort him off the ship. They don’t react until she adds, “Please.” Before they lead Cavil away, he taunts her about having to use the magic word with the Centurions — and warns the other models that they have opened a more dangerous can of worms than they ever imagined.

The Cavils agree to resurrect the D’Annas. Two of the Cavils reveal that there is a resurrection ship several jumps away to which her core consciousness is being downloaded, and proposes they all go there. The Sixes and Sharon agree, but say they’ll go on their own ships.

At the destination point, the Sixes and Sharons notice their resurrection ship didn’t make the jump with them. Then they see the Cavils’ ships surrounding them to attack. Before they can alert their sister ships, the Cavils open fire…and they’re sitting ducks.

On Cavil’s ship, Boomer weeps at the realization that she’s taking part in the destruction of her sister models.

“Remember, they started it,

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

This is directly from the mouths of the dimokrats:

{{{{Reports from Indiana polling places confirmed that record numbers of Republicans were taking Democratic ballots to vote against Obama. And Limbaugh himself bragged about the success of his effort on his radio show today.}}}}

It would have been all over yesterday, a done deal, but because of Operation Chaos, Bruno has risen from her coffin, alive and well, and will resume terrorizing thee dimokrat party.

And providing us wingnuts with much amusement.

Bwa.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

FUNS JUST ABOUT OVER FOR MCCAIN

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Some of Obama’s speech in N. Carolina last night:

{{“The people I’ve met in small towns and big cities across this country understand that government can’t solve all our problems - and we don’t expect it to. We believe in hard work. We believe in personal responsibility and self-reliance.

“But we also believe that we have a larger responsibility to one another as Americans - that America is a place - that America is the place - where you can make it if you try. That no matter how much money you start with or where you come from or who your parents are, opportunity is yours if you’re willing to reach for it and work for it. It’s the idea that while there are few guarantees in life, you should be able to count on a job that pays the bills; health care for when you need it; a pension for when you retire; an education for your children that will allow them to fulfill their God-given potential. That’s the America we believe in. That’s the America I know.”}}

Barack Obama says he is not “the perfect messenger”, but he will certainly be the best POTUS starting in January ‘09!

By mm

May 7, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Devil,

Great oratory may be a precursor to a great president. We know what kind of failure Bush has been. It should have been noted that his oratory gaffes were a precursor to his presidential gaffes.

Some notable quotes from Bush :

“I know how hard it is for you put food on your family.” 01/27/2000

“I understand small-business growth. I was one.” 02/19/2000

“It’s going to require numerous IRA agents.” 10/10/2000

“My pan plays down an unprecedented amount of our national debt.” 02/27/2001

“There’s no question that the minute I got elected, the storm clouds on the horizon were getting nearly directly overhead”. 05/11/2001

“Do you have blacks, too?” 11/08/2001

“I want to thank you for taking time out of your day to come and witness my hanging.” 01/01/2002

“See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don’t attack each other. Free nations don’t develop weapons of mass destruction.” 10/03/2003

“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” 08/05/2004

“It’s in our country’s interest to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm’s way.” 04/28/2005

“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” 05/24/2005

By Paul

May 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Bosch

“Remember, they started it,” Cavil said, adding, “They can trust in their God to watch over their immortal souls,”

“And what about ours?” she asks.

Cavil responds, “We’re machines, dear, remember? We don’t have souls.”

I wondered if Leoban’s last thought was always “I wonder if it’s going to hurt as much this time?”

Daniel

Thppppbttt

:-)

ITN 10:58

I’ll wager that what’s going to matter in the general is, who can make the stronger case regarding whose votes most often, or most significantly, bucked their Party.

Obama gave a decent response on Fox News Sunday, but he’s going to have to ramp it up for the general.

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Paul Wolfowitz has said “We were clueless” about Iraq; Richard Perlman has recanted, Doug Feith is teaching at Georgetown, Libby is a convicted felon, Cunningham and Ney are in prison, DeLay is under indictment, the ship is deserting the sinking rat. Perhaps a photo-op with Bush in a codpiece on a carrier will pick things up.

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Just an observation, but why is it the conservatives here always get accused of posting under multiple ID’s, but it’s the moonbat(ic)s® that always get caught actually doing it?

Bosch, at least you fessed up when you got yourself caught. Midori and finch did the same thing you did, but still tried to deny it.

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

truthman @ 10:33 — can I get an Amen, bro’?!!

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Paul

“Obama gave a decent response on Fox News Sunday, but he’s going to have to ramp it up for the general.”

No duh. To quote the kiddies.

It would not have been effective to tear Hillary limb from limb during primary season - we’ll need some of her loyalists.

Remember the old Warner Brothers cartoon? Bugs and Daffy - it’s rabbit season NO! it’s duck season!

With nominee status…. we switch to OPEN SEASON, on McCain that is.

It’s McCain Season! It’s Republican Season!

For everything there is a season….

It’s perfectly ok, in fact expected, to rip him a new one!

By Paul

May 7, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

ITN

That was pretty poor - not knowing how he’d cut programs, so they assume (you know the real meaning of that word, yes?) Social Security and take the horror from there.

McCain’s already said he wants an evaluation of every department and program (but not Defense, for which I criticize him but your Wonkers don’t).

So, do we infer from the article the Wonkers don’t want to touch the Dept of Agriculture? That they’re fine with the Agriculture Bill?

Amazinger and amazinger.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Big Oil’s Corporate Welfare: Doing The Numbers

CHECK the graph at the bottom of this link…

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

RW,

I caught myself. I never have a problem with admitting a screw up. We’re only human, and we all get frustrated.

I ate some baaaaaddddd sushi yesterday - Floyd did me wrong. Nothing like getting sick on sushi. No more for me.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

ITN 11:18

I didn’t follow that.

Chris Wallace noted McCain’s work on specific legislation with Democrats, which angered many Republicans. (As an aside, it wasn’t too long ago McCain was referred to as the Dem’s favorite Republican).

Obama answered with a list of examples of his bipartisan cooperation.

It may be that rather than looking backwards (he does have a shorter history than Mccain, after all) he needs to pick out past Rep proposals and cite those as areas where they will find common ground in enacting his proposals.

By AmVet

May 7, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Daniel,

An absolutely brilliant recap of the worst president and administration in American history.

Fortunately Bushco has absolutely wrecked conservatism and the GOP for years to come and the American voters are once again going to exercise some serious Republican blood letting this fall.

Does anybody remember Lucko’s toon “The pot calling the kettle black”?

Exhibit 1:

{{{Just an observation, but why is it the conservatives here always get accused of posting under multiple ID’s…}}}

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

INT - you make a mistake. You expound when your knowledge is limited. Plessy v. Ferguson is, though, a great example of judicial activism when, indeed, the court DID make FEDERAL law and set policy, defying and in effect overturning a constitutional law known as the Civil Rights Act of 1866. It was distructive, activist populism which flew in the face of the Congress and the Constitution, which dictates that federal laws supercede state laws when they are in conflict. Because of the 14th Amendment, the Civil Rights Act of 1866 was perfectly constitutional.

However, I was not referring to the first Justice Harlan, I was referring to the second, who left the United States Supreme Court shortly before his death in 1971, shortly after the resignation of another LIBERAL strict constructionist, Hugo Black.

Judicial activism is NEVER a good thing, unless you just want to stop electing legislatures and allow presidents to stack courts and rule by judicial fiat.

Indeed, since rulings on the constitution have the effect of law, then they are, in fact, the law.

Please tell me from what Cracker Jack box you got your law degree?

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

I heard Floyd was passing off carp as catfish. I think he also doubles as N-GA’s financial adviser/barber.

By getalife

May 7, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Well, the white folks gave Obama a free pass on his pastor and did not choose the fighter. Looks like McGovern is switching to the new McGovern and this long ridiculuos process the dems call an election is coming to an end.

Of course, Obama will do nothing on gas prices and the fighter is out. So, get use to use to higher gas prices and try to adapt.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Okay, so each model has their own Resurrection ship that jumps with them?

So why didn’t Sixes’ and Leoban’s and Sharon’s Resurrection ship jump with them? Did Cavil somehow get them to turn against them? Did Cavil destroy their Resurrection Ships too? That’s where I’m confused.

I forgot about the Sharon/Cavil moment. They destroy the human race because they felt it was only a matter of time before the humans did themselves in, and in what a couple years, they are already doing it to themselves - all the while believing in their one true God. Interesting.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

And Paul,

Isn’t it weird that Cavil was posing as a priest before he got caught?

It could be commentary on religion - either polytheistic or monotheistic -is just a bunch of crap. The first three seasons I had trouble distinguishing the good guys from the bad guys, and the Cylons always believed in their one true God, but it was a little twist this season when they turned on each other because they didn’t share a belief (not to lobotomize their own).

Oh, I just love that show.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

Do you ever consider that activism can go both ways? As it certainly has over the past few years.

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

AmVet: You hit the nail on the head! Bushco are not conservatives. They are as close to American Fascists as you can get. Limbaugh is their icon. They have corrupted the republican party. The Limbaugh chaos plan is a case in point. It is not about what is best for America; It is about what is best for the right-wing.

The question is this: “Is McCain owned by them?”

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Also, Mr. Devil,

Can you name ONE court case where the decision was based on a radical liberal activist judge’s absolute erroneous interpretation of the law?

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

getalife - Neither McCain nor Hillary will do anything about gas prices either because none of the above wants to drill for more domestically. ANWR is an option. The Gulf of Mexico IS an option. Oil shale in Colorado IS an option. Drilling in North Dakota IS an option. Alternative, ‘green’ sources of energy sound good, but where are they? Until then, we are stuck with oil and the only way to get prices down is to get more of it. Getting it from overseas is what we have been doing, but that, too, is really NOT an option anymore.

Complaining about corporate profits and taxing them more is also not a solution because they will just raise the prices to make up the difference. And if we follow the European model and nationalize the oil companies, then we will really be screwed because, well, just look at the prices in Europe.

Do you really want to pay $8 to $10 dollars a gallon for gas? That IS what will happen when you have no competition and it all goes to Big Brother. There then will be ZERO incentive for anyone to develop alternative sources of energy for the fear that they will have it all taken away, just as happend to the nationalized oil companies. Why do you think that there were next to no medical breakthroughs in the Soviet bloc for so many years. When they introduced incentives into medicine, all of a sudden r.k. was born. The inventer of the procedure became a millionaire!

Yes, this is the second coming of George McGovern/Jimmy Carter, the worst of both worlds. Enjoy!

By Paul

May 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

Bosch

I don’t think so. I think Resurrection Ships serve all - based on prior episodes.

The religious/philosophical angles are great, aren’t they?

I’ve been scanning old documents this morning - ‘bout done so off to other duties.

Talk with you late today -

getalife

I was thinking of the irony - Hillary’s best interview came on Fox with Bill O Reilly. Too bad it wasn’t earlier in the season.

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Sorry Blowhard. I didn’t mean to leave you out of the ever growing list of moonbat(ic)s® that have been caught posting under multiple ID’s. How many have you had? I lost count ages ago.

By Copyleft

May 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

THe Devil You Read: I notice you’re also pretending that fuel-efficiency standards don’t exist or can’t happen, in your claim that “If they won’t drill, they’re not doing anything about gas prices.”

The oil boys are TERRIFIED that someone will bring this up.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

So, is anybody going on vacation this year?

Any thoughts on Chinese demand for oil causing the price increases?

Any thoughts on the Chinese laughing their collective a*******es off at us right now?

By AmVet

May 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

The short answer to your question is, “Who knows?”

Sometimes he seems to be a good Republican Party apparatchik.

But he has also demonstrated a long history of not always playing nice with the GOP power brokers and their usually demented ideas.

And they absolutely loathe him for it.

The most encouraging thing to me is how these right wing lunatic fringe nut jobs also despise him. (Some have hedged their bets and now hold their festering tongues, but let’s face it, they had NUMEROUS other candidates more to their liking).

And remember recently when the “Christian” frauds and con-men spoke openly of finding a third party candidate because he was not “conservative” enough?

The fact that he is clearly not one of them, bodes enormously well for the nation.

But no matter how this plays out, the irrefutable fact is that NO neo-con will again sit in the West Wing.

Let us hope that they NEVER EVER again do…

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I’m having a moment of clarity - Leoban said last week that he was out of range of the Resurrection ship. So I guess that means that his model isn’t actually dead. They’ve just kind of got the Sixes/Sharons/Leobans cut off so they can’t download.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

Funny how European nations ARE developing alternate energy sources. Kind of blows your theory, huh?

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

Most republicans have lost under Bushco. The “genius” of Rove is to consistently get people to vote against their own interests.

Through “Rev. Wright”, gay marriage, guns, phony machismo and bogus religion the right-wing captures a certain segment of the population. They then divide America for their benefit.

Both Obama and McCain have a broad appeal. Let’s hope America can benefit from them.

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

{{Judicial activism is NEVER a good thing,}}

The Devil @ 11:44 — this is something we may agree on, because that’s how America got stuck with your guy Dubya for the past 8 years!

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Bosch - you did not read my first post on the subject very thoroughly. I did say that. In fact, I reiterated it in my diatribe concerning Plessy v. Ferguson!!! I stated that judicial activism is NEVER good. Usurpation of the law making process is a slippery slope to dictatorship. Why do you think that stacking the courts is the first step a dictator takes?

Justice is following the law. It is not making the law because YOU think that your desired result is correct. The little guy should win when he is right and the law is on his side. He should not when he is wrong. Justice should be blind and it should NOT have a social conscience, but a legislature should because THAT is where our constitution posited that authority.

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

{{Alternative, ‘green’ sources of energy sound good, but where are they?}}

The Devil — exactly… and we can thank Ronald Raygun for dismantling all of the alternative programs that President Carter had gotten America started on. America has been sucking even more on the oil-teat from the Middle East ever since Raygun embraced Big Oil in a big way!

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

{{But no matter how this plays out, the irrefutable fact is that NO neo-con will again sit in the West Wing.}}

And AmVet, I would add that everyone here on the blog needs to start practicing the words “President Obama” as of today…

By Concerned Florida Democrat

May 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

As I long time Democrat voter I must voice my growing concern that my vote and the votes of all of Florida, and Michigan too, will not be counted when the party decides who are nominee will be.

This is an outrage, something that should never happen in the post civil rights era of this nation, why are we now being left out of the process? It is though we are back in 1950’s Selma or Montgomery.

Senator Clinton has won the rightful and legal process in our state, are we now to be disenfranchised?

Let our votes count!

By Goldie

May 7, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

ITN @ 12:41 — does this mean that Matthews and Russert will finally man-up and be real journalists now thru November?

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Goldie - I would firmly and vociferously disagree with your assertion that judicial activism elected Bush. Our electoral system did so. The people who were being judicial activists were the Supreme Court of Florida, which was majority Democrat and doing everything they could to overturn the lawful vote.

The very liberal Miami Herald which had endorsed the dummest man in America, Algore, even did their own independent recount after it was all over and they came up with the same result. Gore lost. We also must remember that these were Democrat dominated and run counties, so all the screaming about the Republicans was rather disengenuous since the commissioners of elections in Dade and Broward Counties were Democrats. It is really quite laughable that you Dems keep complaining about that. That would be like me bringing up the election of 1960, which the Democrats DID steal - Daly stole Illinois for Kennedy and Johnson stole Texas. He even bragged about it. Move on and try to win the next one.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Dear Concerned Florida Democrat:

You are either a fraud or a liar(RW is that you?)

The GOP-controlled Florida Legislature, however, defied scheduling rules by both parties and moved its primary to Jan. 29.

Did you stand up and fight this at the time? Were you an ACTIVIST or a couch tater?

Yes, real Florida Democrats votes should be counted, but your statement “Senator Clinton has won the rightful and legal process in our state” is a wheelbarrow full of HOOEY.

Seat the delegates - but it must be done fairly.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Goldie

I ain’t holdin’ my breath!

President Barack Obama

Damn that feels right!

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Concerned Florida Democrat,

That little trick Hillary pulled by leaving her name on the ballot was a scummy thing to do. It shows what kind of woman she is - ruthless and will stop at nothing for the nomination, but her little plan didn’t work.

It’s time for another name on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue other than Bush or Clinton.

It’s a tale tale sign to me of her dishonesty - not a character trait I want in a President.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

GOP leaders warn of election disaster

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

Um, the last question. Can you name ONE case where a decision was made by a liberal activist judge based on absolute erroneeous interpretation of the law?

Didn’t think so. Your “activist” judge BS is a tired old story too.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Goldie - Russert and Matthews will never be real journalists, at least not according to your model, because they are so overtly biased. You don’t seem to mind that bias when it is used against Republicans. We don’t whine about it so much because we have gotten used to it since the ‘press’ became a wing of the Democrat party back in the 1930s. That is why talk radio and FOX have become so popular. Non-moonbats now have other sources of news.

By getalife

May 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

They were both on the ballot Bosch and Obama broke the rules in Florida by running commercials.

It does not matter, they chose the one who does not fight for change.

Anyhoo, business as usual in the House. The gop are protesting the war funding bill and blocking everything as usual.

Oil at 122 and rising and yet Obama has no solutions.

He has yet to address exactly how he is going to change this but lets the roll the dice and hope for change.

Yahoo, go Oilbama.

Geez.

By In the liberal News

May 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

In the NEws, Obama as President feels right? I can tell by your garbage you post and claim its news thats your choice. Figured since your opinon was the same as the trash talking Bush hate syndrome Goldie. Obama is garbage, the state of ILL is horrible, taxes and spending gone wild. Poor Obama his cracker hating rev. spoke against him, and his terroist friends that support him. No experince, and he has not voted on major issues in the past, what a GREAT candidate for President. HANNITY FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

By @@

May 7, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

and the “affluent” will “ascend” on St. Thomas over the Easter holiday with big oil money “tithes” in THEIR “bundles” ml.

What else is new? “Words matter”

The “testimonials” on that ^^^ site are hilariously weird. But hey….

worship who you will!

I’ll not place my FAITH or HOPE in a politician.

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

AmVet:

Dozens of republicans are not seeking reelection. Domenici, warner, Hagel, Davis, Hobson and Tancredo among others.

They see the handwriting on the wall. The right-wing has eviscerated the party. America is sick of them.

They have hurt America and her children. The republican hate machine will be well oiled. They desperately want Hillary to be the nominee.

We will learn about McCain. Our nation is in such dire straits. Anyone wil be an improvement. Debt service threatens to humble us even further. The Army is broken. The right-wing has brought America to her knees.

We suffer a crises of the spirit. Both Obama and McCain will reach the higher ground. What will the “Hate Machine” do?

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Bosch - don’t jump to conclusions. I certainly CAN name quite a few cases. Plessy v. Ferguson is one. In Re McCardle is another. The most notorious recent case is one you will get your panties in a wad about. Ruth Bader Ginsberg said that it was the worst case of judicial activism ever and that it should have been left to the legislatures as it has caused so much discord. Yes, even she believed that Roe. v. Wade was a bad decision in which a court MADE the law in lieu of the legislature taking action. Judicial activists think that it was a good decision because it reached the result that they desired and could not achieve through the legislative process.

I happen to believe in a very limited ‘right’ to abortion -within the first 12 weeks. My problem is that by judicial fiat the court made law and they tried to practice medicine with an arcane and pedantic decision. It was judicial arrogance at its very worst.

Bosch, your denial of judicial activism is total BS. It shows how ignorant you truly are when it comes to this and so many other subjects.

By obamamama

May 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Very good toon Lucko.

Does anyone know how many suitcases of dollars it takes to fill a tractor trailer up with fuel??

Does anyone know how many barrels of oil it is going to take to deliver the billions of snickerdoodles to all the crackers that consume them each and every year!?

The carbon footprint of the snickerdoodle is atrocious!

I promise if elected president I will deploy an embargo on the consumption of all snickerdoodles so that in a two pronged attack we can curb our dependence on oil as well as shrink the snickerdoodle’s footprint to that of the fig newton.

With hope and change my fellow democrats, we can put an end to this shameful wastefulness and destruction brought on by the snickerdoodle.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Daniel - yes, the Republicans in Congress are in trouble. It is there fault for not being conservative enough and for following along on a soggy, liberal agenda on domestic policy. Dominici is quitting because he is dying. Hagel is a liberal and Tancredo is just bitter. You picked bad examples on those. They would be quitting anyway.

However, with the Jimmy Carter redux we are about to be afflicted with because of a weak, moderate Republican candidate, we will be treated to hyperinflation, a stagnating economy, gas and food shortages and long lines and a general ‘malaise’. Remember all of that? Welcome back to the 1970s!!

By mm

May 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Devil,

You are more annoying than RB. Congratulations.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

NUMBNUTZ @ 1:06

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

You however, are still just another figment of Little Ricky’s imagination. (Or maybe it’s just gas)

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Bosch - I just thought of another one: In Re Gault which created, by judicial fiat, a completely NEW system of justice and imposed it on all of the states. That is an Alaska case from the 1950s which created the juvenile justice system. That is just making a new law and that is judicial activism.

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

Devil:

You have it half right. America is in trouble.

What have we today? The value of our money is evaporating before our very eyes!

The incompetence of the government in the borrow and spend economy is killing America.

By the way, name one good thing the right-wing has ever done for America?

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

mm - then I must be hitting a nerve. It drives you crazy when people back up opinions with facts rather than just emotion, doesn’t it?

By Snickers

May 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Meet Snickerdoodle! In a nutshell, he’s…

A tiny TALL-TALE hero from American folklore

A “powerful pee-wee” who rides in a peanut

A little guy with a BIG message:

Dare to think BIG! Discover the small wonders within YOU!

You’re never too little to make a difference!

Snickerdoodle sounds like Obama.

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

I understand that the DNC made the rules to not seat Florida delegates, but would somebody explain why the vote totals aren’t counted when the discussion turns to popular vote?

Concerned Florida Democrat,

This is not exactly disenfranchisement of voters in the way you describe. These are political parties choosing who they want to run in an election. They have no obligation to involve the voters in that process whatsoever.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Daniel - the Reagan tax cuts, the end of the Cold War, the freeing of the slaves are just a few things that the ‘right wing’ has done. However, it was liberals who blocked the attempts to pass a balanced budget amendment at almost every turn during the 1990s. If they had just allowed that we would not have been able to run the deficits we are currently running. However, you libs never seemed to concerned about budget deficits when you were running things. Your anger on this issue seems to be rather selective.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

I guess you missed my point - those cases were based on interpretation of the law. Just because YOU disagreed with the interpretation of their decision doesn’t quantify them as being activist.

Your “activist judges” BS is as old as Dusty’s criticizing Bush = unpatriotism and fueling the terrorist gig. Yawn.

You show your ignorance daily by implying that Jimmy Carter is a dumb individual. You disagree with his activities and his philosophies, so what? You think all who disagree with you are somehow below average intelligence. Please. What arrogance resides in your narrow-minded scope.

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Devil:

No, no, you don’t get off that easily.

Tax cuts were a Kennedy idea. The Civil War was ended by real republicans, not the right-wing! The freeing of the slaves, universal education and the rights of the individual were republican ideals from the 19th century; i.e. not right-wing.

Try again.

By N-GA

May 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

I talk with my barber. It helps to keep in touch with the real Americans…something that our resident elitist, RW, feels is beneath him.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

SNEAKY LIBERALS TRY VOTE FRAUD

That’s more voter fraud than we have seen in the State of Georgia in 10 years!

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Mr. Devil is of the mind-set:

All good = Republican All bad = Democrat

By Dusty

May 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Well, nothing much new here today.

IN THE NEWS posting the usual semi-bogus tidbits from undercover headquarters.

Goldie, Copyleft & Truthman repeating the headquarter’s tibits so they will get the propaganda correctly insinuated.

AmVet comes blustering in with complaints.

NGA is the religious atheist.

Bosch, our naive anti-war man, is happier with rocket ships than most school children.

Republicans just sit back and watch while libs exhaust themselves with superfluous flack. Then Republicans will vote for the most qualified of all, McCain. Many Democrats will do the same as there is no Democrat they wish to be President.

My regards to RW who can spot a phony a mile off. Also, Paul who tries and tries to reason with unreasonable libs, day in and day out. His patience at this fruitless endeavor is a monument to hope.

Oh yes, Luckovich gives us a reminder of how Pelosi and the Dem ruled Congress were going to control gasoline prices. Stilllll waiting……

By mm

May 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Devil,

No you are not hitting a nerve. I actually get a laugh from your wingnut propaganda. And it is purely opinion, same as RB.

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

They still fly the racist Georgia flag up in your corner of “real” America. Not very progressive of you.

By N-GA

May 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Hey Dusty,

Pray tell…what is a “religious atheist”???

lol

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

Here’s an article you may find interesting.

Roving Defender of Evolution, and of Room for God

This is my favorite part of the article:

“Dr. Ayala, a former Dominican priest, said he told his audiences not just that evolution is a well-corroborated scientific theory, but also that belief in evolution does not rule out belief in God. In fact, he said, evolution “is more consistent with belief in a personal god than intelligent design. If God has designed organisms, he has a lot to account for.”

Consider, he said, that at least 20 percent of pregnancies are known to end in spontaneous abortion. If that results from divinely inspired anatomy, Dr. Ayala said, “God is the greatest abortionist of them all.””

I also like this part:

In reference to Dr. Ayala’s cancellation of an appearnance at the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, CA

“Dr. Ayala said the event’s organizers wanted him to be introduced by Ben Stein, a writer (and business columnist for The New York Times) who is the star of the new anti-evolution movie, “Expelled,” and wanted to show the film in conjunction with his talk.

“I don’t mind who introduces me,” he said he told them, “but I would not want the film to be part of my presentation. They said they could not meet my conditions.”

By @@

May 7, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Happy Independence Day Israel.

(((Arieh Handler, who is 93 this month, was present at the signing of Israel’s Declaration of Independence in 1948. He may be the only living one of the 200 people who witnessed the event.

“At the time, the Americans — particularly President [Harry] Truman — asked [David] Ben Gurion to wait, not to declare a state,” said Handler, who was an associate of Ben Gurion. (Ben Gurion was Israel’s first prime minister.)

Israel had accepted the United Nations partition plan six months earlier, dividing British controlled Palestine into two states — a Jewish state and an Arab state. But the Arab states rejected the plan.

“[Ben Gurion] was of course right, because if at that time [he] hadn’t declared the Jewish State, the state would not have been established,” said Handler.

By the time Handler left the hall in Tel Aviv that evening, Egyptian planes were already trying to bomb Tel Aviv and the Arab army was trying to enter the city.)))

And the death toll for their independence?

22,437 fallen soldiers and terror victims have died since 1860.

I read Paul’s discussion with truthman? yesterday. Wanted to alert Paul to an interesting article at Stratfor - “The Geopolitics of Israel: Biblical and Modern”. Defined Israel as a subordinate state to greater powers due to its’ geographical location. Has a lot to do with naval dominance of the Meditteranean Sea which is the only vulnerable front from which Israel can be attacked. Sounds like a case of mutual benefit to me. A twofer!

The only neighboring state left “undone”? Syria, which is in negotiations with Israel as I type.

We shall see! With states there are negotiations but jihadists are not states.

By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) is Bush's Burka Boy

May 7, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Good link about the nuns ITN.

Sometimes RW makes me dress up in a nun’s garb and spank her.

And vice versa. We’re a crazy couple of shemales, fer sure!

S/he calls me Sister Trixie, after his/her mom.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

My goodness Dusty, how one-sided you are. I guess you don’t see that I converse about the show I like with someone else on this blog whom you hold in such high regard.

But, la de da, in your brain full of goo, life is certainly that one-sided.

Yawn.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

and then there is Dusty….

Bringing the “tween” perspective to the blog. Back to her (it’s) “review” format that had us all in stitches before.

Without her adolescent observances how would we ever make it through our grown up lives?

Got bubble game flavored lipgloss?

By Jesus

May 7, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Tidbits here

Tidbits there

Tidbits, Tidbits everywhere!

The videos that could pose a problem for McCain

By Mohammed

May 7, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

ELECT OBAMA LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA BOOOOOOM

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Well I’d love to stay and chat with you folks, but I’ve got a salon appointment at the club.

J/K those people aren’t real Americans after all, according to some around here.

Bosch,

I would argue that judicial activism started almost right off the bat with Chisholm V Georgia, but if your definition is used then nothing is judicial activism. However Obama says he wants justices that will promote a kind of class system with regard to the law rather than the very simple principle of equal protection under the law.

The devil you say,

If you some clear cut cases go to the lower courts. The ninth circuit especially.

Later!

By MM IS DUMB

May 7, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

One thing you and that idiot on CNN forgot is that OBAMA had Wright as his spiritual leader, and in his campaign you freaking moron. So he was not just attending church and not listening. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH Liberal’s are so freaking funny BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

RW,

“but if your definition is used then nothing is judicial activism”

Exactly.

The notion of judicial activism is perpetrated by those who just don’t like a judge’s interpretation of the law.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Bosch @ 2:45

Great Post!

Truly wise words.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

ITN,

Thanks - not so wise, just common sense. :-)

RW,

And I certainly do not agree with your interpretation of Obama’s comments regarding the Supreme Court justices. I interpret his recent quotes just as easily as a promise and assurance that the people he described [the young teenage mom, the disabled, the gay, the sick, the old] will be equally protected with his justice appointments.

I promised not to talk election stuff until later - dammit!

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

Bosch - these examples had NOTHING to do with interpretation of the law. They MADE law. There is a difference. Activism also does have to do with interpretation of the law. It is certainly judicial activism to torture a meaning out of a statute that certainly was not there. It is also judicial activism and legislating from the bench not only to declare a law unconstitutional but to set out in detail how this ruling is to be enforced. Any way you look at it, it is judicial activism. In Re Gault is possibly the most egregious case of judicial activism EVER because it is so completely extra-judicial. It just created a new branch of the judiciary out of whole cloth. Before that time there had never been a separate system for juvenile criminals.

The great irony of this bit of social enginering is that it has worked so poorly. Instead of rehabilitation of juveniles, it has done quite the opposite. During the 1940s, only a tiny fraction of crimes was committed by those under the age of 21. Today the vast majority are. One can only attribute that to the fact that we changed from a system of punishing juvenile criminals to letting them off. We have payed a huge price as a society for this bit of social engineering.

To claim that judicial activism does not exist is beyond being naive. It borders on psychotic. In fact, Barak Obama’s campaign actually issued a statement in favor of liberal judicial activism when McCain made his statement against it the other day. The term was actually coined by those who favored letting the courts decide such important issues rather than having them vetted by the legislative process.

That is one of the flaws in our system. My European friends are horrified that we give courts such authority. You need to wake up and smell the coffee!

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Legislating from the bench…..

Way too funny.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

Your long rambling post at 3:11 - I’ve only one thing to say or rather do:

“Yawn.”

Blah, blah, blah. Okay make that two.

By truthman

May 7, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Bosch at 12:18:

That’s the only “blow” Devil/Dunce will ever get.

Paul, did you remember the air compressor for your date last night. Hope you didn’t hurt yourself on the valve stem!

Bwahahahahahaha!

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

ITN,

The lame cliche’ terms they use get stuck in their heads and they can’t get it out - it’s programmed in.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

Bosch - You really make me laugh,hahahahaha. I have always excoriated Republicans when the deserve it, and I have always lauded Democrats when they deserved it. The problem is, they have deserved it so seldomly. Joe Lieberman has been consistently right on foreign policy. Zell Miller became a good Democrat in his later years.

I find Senator Hagel to be a horrible person, and I had NO use for Senator Lincoln Chafee, although I had often been a fan of his father’s. However, I often disagreed with Senator John Chafee on certain core issues. I never liked Senator Jacob Javitz for even one minute. I never understood why he was a Republican. He had a ACU rating of only 6% and an AFL-CIO rating of 90%.

I am a Republican because I am a conservative. I am not a conservative because I am a Republican. And I am a conservative BECAUSE I am an American!

By Dusty

May 7, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Woohoo…IN THE NEWS confesses to itty bitty brainless bits from underground headquarters. Tidbits! Tidbits!

Try Cheezbits, ITN. We need a break.

What? Yet another hit “bit” on McCain? No hit “bits” on Obama?

NGA@2:02

If you want to know more about a religious atheist, just look in the mirror. Do it religiously.

Bosch,

Anybody not on YOUR side is one sided. But you are correct. I am not on YOUR side of ‘citizenship’. You are antiwar while the USA is at war and anti-Bush while he leads our military and our country. Therefore I am not on “your side”.

Oh, I forgot. I am enjoying Boswell’s book Life of Johnson. Would you like for me to print several pages of it here for your enjoyment?

@@ 2:07

Jihadists would love to have Iraq as their “state”, one more reason to be fighting there. Bush has known it all along and our soldiers are removing that threat.

By The Devil You Say

May 7, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Bosch - another example of judicial activism - the gay marriage law in Massachusetts! The legislature never passed such a law and it was directed to do so. That is certainly judicial activism. I am gay by the way.

By N-GA

May 7, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Perhaps, if you try really, really hard you will realize that “religious atheist” is an oxymoron.

That second syllable would be YOU!

Still lol !!!!!!

By N-GA

May 7, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Paul,

What happens when this bubble bursts?

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I am not anti-war - just anti “stupid” war - like Iraq.

I think we should fight the jihadist here - so we can all own it. They are our enemy - I’m all for it. I might even go out and buy a gun.

Why should we be fighting our enemy in Iraq?

The only thing Bush has done to lead our military is to lead them into the biggest clusterf&ck since Vietnam. You go ahead and cheer for your fake hero. I’ll pass.

Wow, Dusty’s reading a whole book now!

Mr. Devil,

I know you’re gay. Who cares? I stand by what I said earlier, your not going to change my mind with your drivel.

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

truthman,

Just so you know, Paul’s wife has been sick and has been in the hospital.

I agreed with you assessemnt of Israel/Palestine last night, Carter has done a good thing over there, and has forced us to ask some tough questions of ourselves. Like Carter, I’ve been called a Jew-hater by many people with my assessment for many years. Ironically, I get all my information regarding the plight of the Palestinian people form a couple of friends of mine who are devout Jews - they feel the same way as I do.

Israel is used as an excuse by the extreme jihadists like bin Laden for his desire for world domination. Like Paul said last night, I also agree that the US changing their position on Israel will not change their hatred for the U.S. They would just find another reason to hate us. It’s just an excuse. They hate our culture, not simply because we help Israel.

But, because of that, I also agree that our troops should come home - not all at once, but a phased withdrawal.

I’ve sarcastically mentioned here that I feel like we should fight the jihadist here, and there is some truth to my belief in that, I think our military should be here to protect us from future attacks. We live on the other side of the planet, and yes, they got us once, and I’m certain they’ll probably get us again, but it’s nothing compared to what the Iraqis are now facing because of our enemy. They are killing each other now, with the help of Iran, and that will not change with or without our presence. What is happening now, is just Iran/Iraq War II - and we’ve certainly helped Iran with overtaking them.

I also feel we owe the Iraqi’s some protection since we destroyed their country, and I hope whoever is the next President will make that perfectly clear to the Iraqi government: you want this aid - then this is going to happen. End of story.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Dusty

you continue to be underwhelming!

I am a Obama supporter, I’d even vote for Clinton…..

NOW THINK REAL HARD

FOCUS TWEENIE

CLOSE YOUR EYES

CONCENTRATE

Now maybe (just maybe) you can figure out why I post what I do.

STILL THINKING ABOUT IT?

COME ON YOU CAN DO IT!

JUST A LITTLE FURTHER PUNKIN….

Yes! I’m opposed to McCain!

LOOK YOU FIGURED IT OUT ALL BY YOURSELF!

Good girl!

Now, would somebody explain to me why our Dusty girl uses this blog like a “slam book”?

Oh and here is

A SONG FOR DUSTY

By Bosch

May 7, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Like I said yesterday, the credit card companies will be the next to fall. People are just putting their debt on credit cards, and soon they will max out and no one will be able to pay them. It will be a very ugly scene I’m afraid.

Have a good evening all!

By AmVet

May 7, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

“You are either a fraud or a liar(RW is that you?)”

ITN, I wonder just how many people here know {{{ricky}}} is a hopeless head case or just a congenital liar. (Both?)

Daniel at 1:13, the only remaining Americans who can’t or won’t admit this non-conservative conservative GOP is a TOTAL train wreck are, see the two options above.

And once again you are spot on in your assessment of the worst of them. They have sullied the shining star that is The United States of America all in the name of their deluded, corrupt, immoral agenda.

For further evidence consider the argument posted here that the GOP is imploding because they weren’t “conservative” enough!!!

The GOP is getting decimated weekly because they are not conservative AT ALL. They are Reagan/Gingrich/Bush puppets/neo-cons is almost all respects and are as far removed from real American conservatism as Bolsheviks are.

And as for the absolutely moronic claim that Hagel is a liberal, ask {{{Andy}}} about our little confab about that very topic some months ago.

Delusion upon delusion upon delusion. The very definition of today’s right wing…

By Dusty

May 7, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

NGA,

Try again. Refer to the dictionary. Look up atheist fist. Then RELIGIOUSLY. Then put the two together. U R an atheist religiously. If still confused, run over to NGCSU and ask an English teacher.

Bosch,

It would be nice if we could “choose” our wars. Then you would pick the one you want to support. We did not choose 9/11. We did not choose terrorism. If you want to postpone fighting terrorism so your children can do it, I don’t. Terrorists are fighting in Iraq just like they invade all parts of the world. They work towards the USA as a goal.

Fortunately, we have had a leader with the foresight to fight terrorism in the Middle East, not here. You can’t see beyond your front door, Bosch. Whether you like it or not, President Bush is leading the fight to protect America, even for ingrates like you.

Yes, I read books. Space & kiddie shows don’t appeal to me.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

If McCain’s “spiritual” advisors, you know, the ones who’s endorsement he so actively sought out, still think 9/11 was brought about by Gay Parades - maybe we better keep an eye on Dusty.

She just might nuke Ru Paul!

By Dusty

May 7, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS & REPETITIOUS RENDERINGS

I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE.

I KNOW WHOM YOU SUPPORT.

WHY DON’T YOU SPEAK FOR YOURSELF?

WHY ARE YOUR COMMENTS ‘CANNED PROPAGANDA’?

I WILL ‘SLAM’ YOUR PROPAGANDA AS LONG AS YOU SLANDER REPUBLICANS.

I DO NOT NEED YOUR ‘MUSIC’. I AM ALREADY IN TUNE.

GET A JOB, NOT A TRANSCRIPT.

AmVet4:03

Why don’t you use canned propaganda to trash Republicans like IN THE NEWS does? She’s not clever but she is concise. Brevity is better. Saves skip over time.

By N-GA

May 7, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You are a classic example of someone who is undereducated trying to carry on a conversation that is way over your head. To try to support your weak arguments, you often refer to a dictionary.

Now that you’ve screwed yourself by putting 2 words together improperly, you are trying to weasel your way out instead of simply admitting you made a mistake (a little like Bush’s WMDs?).

You posted “religious atheist”. There is no such thing you twit! Then you try to claim you used the word “religiously” (a feeble adverb). So now I suppose you are “miss-speaking” (a little like Hillary dodging snipers?).

You are a real piece of work!

lmao

BTW, I’m agnostic….

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Dusty

Dusty

Dusty

If you already know the answers why continue to ask infantile questions?

Silly Girl! You most certainly are a “toon”.

By Dusty

May 7, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS

Ho hum. I see why you use canned propaganda. You get all mixed up.

Obama had the *twenty year spiritual advisor who dammed America, supported subversives and preached racial bigotry.

That’s the one IN THE NEWS that you forgot to mention. It was Obama’s buddy.

Now try to be nice. Au revoir et bon soir.

By IN THE NEWS

May 7, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

What’s wrong with the brain function of our Barbie Girl who calls news “canned propaganda”!

I know she doesn’t like my sources (too many big words)

BUT REALLY!!

It’s not as if I post from FOX!

Why does Dusty hate America and Americans?

Another Faketriot!

By Dusty

May 7, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Last word to NGA

I know you are agnostic. That is about the equivalency of a religious atheist. Both are very shallow.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Daniel 1:28

“name one good thing the right-wing has ever done for America?”

Given the left wing something to complain about? Which occupies their time?

N-GA 3:43

A nice little contraction, I’d guess. I’d also guess people aren’t using credit because they feel flush - they’re trying to maintain a lifestyle in the face of steady or declining incomes and heavily rising prices in a few key sectors (food, fuel). Then people either overextend or restrict purchases (eating out, consumer goods, entertainment) which lends more to a slowdown.

That’s what I’d guess.

@@

Thanks for the Stratfor heads-up. Interesting view thru time. The subordinate state thing - the phrase likely raises some hackles. BTW - people would likely be absolutely floored at our annual “contribution” to Egypt. It ain’t just Israel.

Bosch 3:46

“They hate our culture”

The gem of the day.

AmVet

Don’t know if you didn’t see or chose to ignore - any thoughts on Lieberman as a McCain VP? McCain can’t tick off the wayright more than he already has - just look at the last primaries. The attraction there would be moderate Dems. Farleft drove him out over Iraq and wouldn’t vote for McCain anyway - but the people still elected him as an Independent. So it shows he has appeal in that critical segment.

By AmVet

May 7, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

Dusty, you morons could not NOT read me if you tried.

Hell, most of you remaining but few right wing lunatics comment on and attempt to misrepresent virtually every one of my posts.

That is a fact and it is undeniable.

Also, it is not my fault that in this ongoing battle of wits, you neo-cons keep bringing a knife to a gunfight.

You, and you alone, have THE reputation here of being a near perfect Goebbels propagandist. It has been stated over and over and over again by a wide variety of bloggers.

Just ask around.

Or don’t.

Bosch, your comment that you are not anti-war just anti-stupid war was brilliant.

And like the “liberal” Hagel (HA!) and most of the American public now, it is beyond reasonable doubt that this bungled invasion/occupation of Iraq was in fact a stupid, unnecessary war.

And the chickenhawk chest-pounders “soldier on” in their campaign of deceit and stupidity, and care little about the 4061 Americans needlessly KIA because of the idiot who occupies the White House.

01-20-09 The End of an Error

By Paul

May 7, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

ITN 4:48

Will you post from FOX when Obama appears on O’Reilly’s show?

By N-GA

May 7, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Your 4:50 post has two problems. The first problem is that I expect that this post will not be your “last word to NGA”.

The second problem is with your statement: “I know you are agnostic. That is about the equivalency of a religious atheist. Both are very shallow.”

There are simply too many problems with your statement. We can draw but one conclusion: Dusty, you are NOT smarter than a 5th grader!

By AmVet

May 7, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Lieberman would not be a problem for me.

Other Americans? I can’t say.

However, I believe it is incumbent upon McCain to find a reasonable, viable running mate in his own party.

Failure to do so is a another gigantic indictment of the madness in the GOP.

Off to the submarine races!

Later all!

By Paul

May 7, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

Or maybe Lieberman as VP for Obama.

Would reassure moderate Reps who get the willies when they think of McCain.

Would strengthen Obama’s “reach across the aisle and work together” theme.

Would also be a great point for “healing” - even though the farleft would go into hara-kiri mode.

This has possibilities…

By Kathy

May 7, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

As a life long democrat who voted for both Gore and Kerry, let me say that I don’t think that Barak Obama has been fully vetted as the party nominee. The only thing that we have proven so far is that democrat primary voters don’t care if he’s had a twenty year relationship with a religious fanatic who obviously hates white people and they don’t seem to mind him being allied to William Ayers, a home grown terrorist no better than Eric Rudolph or Timothy McVeigh.

I can not even imagine that the general election voters will be shrugging these things off like we did.

Not to mention he is firmly to the left of Michael Dukakis.

This is not good.

I thought the super delegates were supposed to save us from our ignorant voters?

By N-GA

May 7, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Credit cards and home equity lines are forms of liquidity easily tapped and frequently abused. With the new bankruptcy laws, individuals filing for bankruptcy rarely can get absolved (forgiven?) of this type of debt. What now happens is that a payment schedule is developed which severely restricts the individual’s “discretionary” expenditures. And that will have a significant impact on the economy. It will slow down if not reverse economic expansion. That, in turn, will reduce production and, consequently, the need for more labor (read: unemployment).

And that, IMO, is the “good” scenario.

By getalife

May 7, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Wait, the great leader Pelosi is talking about her gas price plan.

Her plan is begging the President to do something.

Veto and drill is w’s plan.

In return, she will pass billions more for Iraq.

Hilarious.

Now back to your regular scheduled hatred of Hillary.

OMG.

We are so screwed.

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Kathy,

Great point about the super delegates. The one time they finally get to do the job they were designed for they’re scared to do it.

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So Tweedle DEEluded (ITN) calls me a liar a few more times today to go with the countless other times and Tweedle DUMBa$$ (Blowhard) comes along and adds congenital to the description. Neither of these two light weights has yet pointed out one single lie I’ve ever told here.

OK, kidz, let’s put your money where your keyboards are. This should be a dead lock cinch for you since you make the claim so often. Here’s the deal. Even though it shouldn’t take you more than five minutes, if you’re accurate, I’ll give you a week to search the archives. You set the amount of the bet, but I caution you to make it easy on yourselves because you’ll eventually find out there isn’t an example to be found.

Tell me the amount you want to lose and then…… Good hunting!

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Paul:

I distinguish between the right-wing and the republican party. The republican party has been hijacked. Have you forgottn the hubris and arrogance of the early Bushco years? we now know that masked incompetence. America's greatness follows the seperation of powers. Our model of government emphasizes restraint on power. With the advent of Bush the conservative model has been destroyed. Borrow and spend has replaced balanced budgets, The ends now justify the means, Big Government is OK, and might makes right. History will judge Bush harshly. Conservatism has been betrayed, the republican party is damaged, America has suffered. But, know what? I would tolerate the phony machismo and bogus religiosity, the photo-ops and the hubris, the pandering, the lies and the deceit, if only they had talent.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

N-GA

“…that is the ‘good’ scenario.”

And that’s what’s scary.

Spoke with my father the other day. Lightly touched on the economy. He said “if there’s anything you want - but it. Don’t hold dollars.”

He doesn’t much follow this stuff. Doesn’t have a background in gov’t or economics. Just the kind of guy who’d be sitting next to you in the barbershop.

Which makes his words all the more telling -

getalife

Maybe Spkr Pelosi will hold another hearing.

I have an acronym for you. Seems to fit with the times. A bit crude, I apologize - but still and all, it seems appropriate.

Bohica. Bo-hee-kuh. As in “Watching these primaries, I’m having another Bohica day.”

Bohica. Bend over. Here it comes again.

By Marge K

May 7, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

Kathy you are so right. All Obama is going to get us is another loss in November just like the last two extreme liberals we nominated and this guy makes them look like Barry Goldwater.

The Right Wing Attack Machine is going to make mincemeat out of this guy, he claims to be a uniter but if you look at his meager record in the Senate he either voted the ultra liberal position or “present.” How will that “unite” the country?

He speaks of this “hope,” almost as though “hope” will put food on the table, gas in the car or give the kids a good solid education. Where’s the beef?

And how much hope do you think you could squeeze out of Reverend Wright’s sermons, unless you are hoping that America dies or something?

We are ruining what little is left of our party and at the worst possible time, the Repugs are running someone that we have already voted for once this year and has voted consistently in favor of the democrat issues far more than he has for the wingnuts and, unlike Kerry, he is a real war hero.

We are doomed.

By Paul

May 7, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Daniel

Which is why I use terms like farright or uberleft or farfarleft or ultraright.

Ever seen one of those diagrams showing a normal distribution? Looks like an upside down U with the lines going horizontal to infinity. Bulk of the population’s within the main part of the U. Go out either direction, it’s a wee bit of the population. That’s where they are. But the money and organization can give them more power, at times, than the bulk in the U.

Spot on about the spending and such. I’ll predict an historian will begin a book of this administration with a brief part on VP Cheney, making the case for restraint in Desert Storm, urging against Kosovo intervention. Then on to Pres Bush’s record as Texas governor, citing spending restraint, taxes in line with spending, conservation and renewable energy sources.

The title of the book will be “What Happened?”

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

May 7, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

-=-

Some thoughts today…

I saw a car with a big ol’ support the Troops decal on the back and then ttwo “Vote McCain” stickers on either side. Yeah that will support the troops alright —

Personally I want a sticker that says “Support America!”

-=-

Another vehicle had a sticker that said “Pray for Peace for Israel”. Obviously this person cares not about Peace anywhere else — Just Israel…

Me — I’ll pray for Peace in the world… Israel included!

-=-

Ahh the call of the Neocon Parrot Hawk… “We can solve our gas problems by drilling in ANWR” -

Uh Huh — Right — well those Oil companies that drill in ANWR will of course help the good ol’ USA right? Yes all that oil will be sold to we the consumers.

Nope =- They will send that oil to the best sales locations where they can profit. You would see the oil in ANWR go to China’…

And here is a good review of how our Oil industry loves America - and well just exactly “What” our troops are fighting for…

Cheers’…

By Kevin

May 7, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Great rant Marge, doesn’t this whole situation reek of affirmative action or some other silly rule that we have had forced upon us?

I voted for Bill Clinton twice but I don’t think I’m going to vote democrat if Obama is the chosen one, I just don’t trust the guy. He’s got this radical background that he never once had a problem with until it threatened his candidacy, how much can you believe a guy that speaks of his reverend as a father figure one day and then he throws him under the bus the next.

Like we always said about Clinton, you didn’t have to wonder if he was lying to you.

And besides, remember when all of the mainstream press was fawning over McCain, you know, the “Maverick” in his “Straight Talk Express?”

What happened to all of that? We are supposed to hate him now just because he has been faithful to his political party? Nothing has changed about him he is still the wingnut’s anti wingnut, he’s scored more points against his own party than Keith Olbermann has.

I’m seriously thinking about crossing over for him, he seems like the real moderate in this whole mess.

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

Marge K:

Come up for air! Whomever takes over in Jan 2009 will be presented with a mess. The economy is the key. The abysmal incompetence of the last seven years is coming home to roost. The loss of value in the dollar is the equalizer. Government is like fire. When contained it can be helpful; when out of control it can cause tremendous damage. We are in a firestrom. The Bush disconnect is apparent. We can only pretend, borrow and spend for so long. Time's up.

By mike

May 7, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

I love how people talk about the right wing attack machine like the Dems don’t have one too. It is said to see people repeatedly spew blatantly partisan rhetoric. Unfortunately, that is what are politics have devolved to. And none of the 3 candidates are any different. All are going to say what they think will get them elected. Another sad choice of the less of two evils for our country.

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

The gross excesses of the last seven years must be paid for. We borrow 2 billion dollars daily! Everything on your desk got there by truck. When gas prices rise, everything gets more expensive. Add to that the loss of value of the dollar and you see the problem. You can have your right-wing, you can have your left-wing; tell us the politics of stagnant wages and rising prices?

By Marge K

May 7, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Daniel-

It is ridiculous people like you and your hate obsession with Bush that has gotten us stuck with this extremist Obama.

Do you really believe all of the nonsense you spewed at me?

The last seven years my husband’s salary has nearly tripled, we live in a brand new 3,500 square foot house with two luxury automobiles parked in the garage, I just got off the phone with him telling me he will be a few minutes late because of all the traffic, even though gas is $3.50 a gallon.

What world must you live in?

We do not need a bomb throwing radical in the White House who thinks every thing is a “problem,” like you Angry Left Wingers do, that needs to be “fixed.”

I can only imagine the damage this Obama will do to something that just needs a stable and firm hand to guide it.

Hillary, even with her major league honesty issues, would not have done anything drastic and stupid like this “community organizer” will.

Thanks, you’ve talked me into McCain’s camp.

By W stands for waterboarding

May 7, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Marge K,

I guess your attention span isnt over 30 seconds. Your rant about Obama is way off. Did he get us into a war based on a lie? Nope, Did he turn a surplus into the largest deficit in our countrys history? Nope. Did he authorize torture? Nope. Did he ruin our countries reputation worldwide? Nope. So you keep harping on Rev. Wright. So what do you think of McCain begging Fallwell and Robertson and Hagels endorsement? All 3 of those have said and done alot more disgusting things that Rev. Wright ever has…..

By N-GA

May 7, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Don’t argue with her. She gives women a bad name. The evidence: “…my husband’s salary has nearly tripled…”.

Meanwhile she uses TiVo so that she can watch all the daily soaps. And guess the real reason why her husband is…ah, nevermind. Meanwhile, the Beav is rolling a doobie and…you know. She wants more of the same!!

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Ahhh, yes, what a marvelous election year this is turning out to be:

{{{{By Marge K May 7, 2008 6:23 PM Daniel- It is ridiculous people like you and your hate obsession with Bush that has gotten us stuck with this extremist Obama.}}}}

Marge K: Daniel is the luckovich blog bedwetter, prone to becoming hysterically unhinged the more reasoned that you become, expect a screaming, hair pulling reply to your thoughtful, well versed comments.

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{{{{By Daniel May 7, 2008 6:22 PM Add to that the loss of value of the dollar and you see the problem.}}}}

Perhaps you moonbats should let us drill for our own oil, thereby increasing the supply of it?

You seem to understand economics, no?

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

I live in the real world. Most American’s aren’t as fortunate as you.

Most of us haven't seen our salary triple, most American's don't have two luxury cars, or a brand new house. You need not imagine damage, it's all around us. I never mentioned Obama. The hate you see is inside you. How do we balance the budget, secure the value of the dollar, end the "borrow and spend", ease gas prices and restore confidence to government? No name calling or whining. Answer the question!

By RW-(the original)

May 7, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

MargeK,

AJC-M is right about Daniel the hothead and his demand the you {{{{{answer the question}}}} is always the way his madness begins.

By Marge K

May 7, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Daniel- I’m sorry to hear about your failed economic situation, maybe you shouldn’t sit around waiting for government to come rescue you, you think?

I am a moderate democrat which to me means that I decided not to sit around and whine about problems that don’t even exist and I’m just guessing that might be why my very faithful husband’s salary has grown as it has.

And if you want to “fix” something, why don’t you focus on your own issues, instead of forcing your make believe problems on the rest of us?

How many disasters have you wrought today, Daniel, with your incestuous moaning?

That’s real nice how the poor and needy are being deprived of basic food stuffs because you environmental extremists fill your diapers over some sparse wasteland in the middle of bum f’d Egypt.

Any more brilliant ideas you’d like to share with us?

Oh never mind, I’m not interested in hearing your wild eyed tales of despair, I grew up many, many years ago.

By Daniel

May 7, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

W, N-GA:

See ya! I'm off to my work-out. Ta. Ta.

By W stands for waterboarding

May 7, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

Marge K,

What AJC Management didnt explain to you is he sits at his computer screen and touches his manhood while fantasizing about Daniel… In other words dont believe a word he writes…Oh it just dawned on me Marge K is AJC Managements alter ego…

By AJC Management

May 7, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

Check this out:

{{{{By N-GA May 7, 2008 6:33 PM Daniel, Don’t argue with her. She gives women a bad name. The evidence: “…my husband’s salary has nearly tripled…”.}}}}

The same person that parades around this blog as a “retired” “millionaire” who samples only thee finest wines, is ragging about someone else’s success.

It’s like, Hellooooo.

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