Mike Luckovich

By AJC Management

May 1, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

Oh yeah, the same pinko media that blew a gasket 24/7 for the entire 2006 midterm election season over some Republican congressman’s homosexuality, and would love to do the same with Larry Craig this year tap-tap, now they don’t want to talk about some jackboot, racist anti American bigot, that just so happens to be their presidential front runner’s twenty year long spiritual advisor.

Pay back is a b!tch, ain’t it?

{{{{Oh, for the love of Pete, can we stop discussing the Rev. Jeremiah “Loose Cannon” Wright? Because of you media pundits, he’s getting exactly what he wants —- his 15 minutes of fame. Move on!-Urinal Vent}}}}

You know what the funniest part is?

It is the KKKlinton dimokrats that are the ones dredging up the Wright stuff, not the “Republicans.”

Bwa.

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{{{{Hundreds of Afghan intelligence agents on Wednesday raided the Kabul hide-out of militants with suspected links to an attack on President Hamid Karzai, >>>>as the Afghan capital was sucked deeper into the war against the Taliban.<<<< The battle claimed seven lives —- a woman and a child who were in the house, three intelligence agents and two militants. One of the dead militants had supplied weapons used in Sunday’s attack on Karzai, intelligence chief Amrullah Saleh said, blah, blah, blah, Afghanistan is sucking us, blah, blah, sucking makes us happy, blah blah, Taliban is great, blah, blah-Urinal}}}}

Enforcing your country’s laws is “being sucked deeper into war,” eh?

Or is that just a nice place to insert a prissy little pinko liberal scare sentence, so that all the other anti American liberals can wet their diapers with glee?

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{{{{Taliban resistance has stiffened in the south since NATO took command there in mid-2006, and some in the Bush administration believe the fight against the Taliban could be strengthened if the United States, whose span of control is now limited to eastern Afghanistan, were also in charge in part or all of the south.-Urinal}}}}

So much for “relying on the world,” eh AJC?

The “world” can’t do it’s job, as usual.

By AJC Management

May 1, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

{{{{Average temperatures in areas such as California and France may drop over the next 10 years, influenced by colder flows in the North Atlantic, said a report today by the institution based in Kiel, Germany. Temperatures worldwide may stabilize in the period.}}}}

Just like I said and now the environmental terrorists can’t hide it anymore.

But they sure can spin it:

{{{{“Without knowing that, you might erroneously think there’s no global warming going on.”}}}}

Check this out- These jerk offs were unable to predict the “by colder flows in the North Atlantic” one freaking year ago, they had no clue this was coming, so why are we to believe them when they take wild guesses at something happening a decade from now?

Junk Science.

Just like all the BS that comes from the mouths of liberals:

{{{{In Louisiana, environmental mismanagement would exact a far higher toll. The livelihoods made off the waterways and swamplands could be lost. The bass would stop biting, the flowers would cease to bloom. Yet, somehow, in the middle of this far more populous, far warmer, far more vulnerable environment, oil production thrives.}}}}

{{{{Some 46 wells churn daily to help meet America’s growing energy needs in Louisiana’s Atchafalaya National Wildlife Refuge, one of the most environmentally sensitive areas in the world. It’s so sensitive that road-building techniques had to be revolutionized far beyond anything ever before conceived just to provide highways through the area.}}}}

{{{{Yet here, the wells produce and the environment flourishes. The Atchafalaya River, considered the world’s deepest because no solid bottom ever has been found, continues to be as prized for its catfish as its crude. If oil production and nature can function side-by-side in that ANWR, certainly they can do the same in the other ANWR — the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska.}}}}

Do tell, environmental terrorists, wats up wit dat^^??

By TW

May 1, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Hillary’s decision to grant George W. Bush the authority to go to war was tantamount to giving a loaded .45 to a two-year-old.

Discretion much?

You’re fired.

Obama ‘08

By Paul

May 1, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this

Coulda replaced the Elephant with a Donkey. Or better yet, with a “reporter.”

Hillary was great on O’Reilly last night. Good give and take. Don’t think she’d ever been questioned like that before (“the Bush Administration, the Clinton Administration and those before haven’t done bupkus and sold out the American public on energy.” Hillary: “I agree.”).

Second installment’s tonight.

AJC: check out April 30. Right up your alley. This following Dem leadership remarks a couple days ago. Then again, McCain’s opposed to drilling, also.

Link: drilling

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this

Love the ‘toon, Lucko — that elephant sure is dumb!

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

AJC - What the Democrats don’t want to acknowledge ever is that they have a wrongdoer in their ranks and they don’t want to expell them. They have a long history of circling the wagons and stonewalling. They did it with Alger Hiss (they lost that one), all of Lyndon Johnson’s scandals, Ted Kennedy, Barney Franks and Garry Studds, Bill Clinton, Mike Espy and all of the campaign finance scandals of the 1990s. Don’t expect them to change their ways. The difference is this time there is alternative media which forces the issue and they really don’t like it. HOW DARE YOU TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT US they cry!!!

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

Happy May Day — and it’s been 5 YEARS since Dubya declared: “Major combat operations in Iraq have ended”… so why is he still continuing the occupation of Iraq???

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Goldie - the great irony in the symbols of the two parties is their correctness in correlation to reality. The elephant is a noble beast, quite intelligent and with a long memory. The jackass is barely trainable, incredibly stubborn and even stupider than a cow. They cannot even be trained for circus acts. They both perfect symbols for their respective parties!

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

Goldie - why are we still in Korea, Italy and Germany as well as Kuwait?

By OBAMA HATES GAS

May 1, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Good thing Obama wants to help the people, save the people, change the world, but is against lowering gas prices, but we all knew he was Full of Obamabolonge. Love the cartoon, still trying to blame Republicans for Obamas shady past. Thankfully Rev. Wright set the story straight about Obama. I see Goldie is spewing her usual propaganda of her Bush hate syndrome. HAHAHAHAHAHA

By Shawny

May 1, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Where is the donkey in the pic pushing up the arrow for gas prices? Drill now. Approve new refineries now. Approve new nuke powerplants now. What is the holdup? Oh, yeah. We need a commission to decide on a new BCS playoff system.

By Shawny

May 1, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

Easy, Goldie at 8:24. Everytime you get the urge to support defeat, read this article. It describes how South Vietnam was in control and the horror at the killing fields that followed after we bailed.

By Bosch

May 1, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Good morning!

Yes, the good people of this country will recognize the distractions and work through how they feel about the incredible clusterfvcks we are faced with as a nation these days.

Now, I have a question. Will my government check that I receive from the IRS, will it be in yuan? Will I have to have it exchanged - I wonder if the girls down at the HootervilleMayberryland bank know how to exchange yuans to dollars? Do you think the Chinese will spell my name right? I hope so, because I surely don’t want it going to someone else by mistake.

By AJC Management

May 1, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Actually, the U.S. had won the war in Vietnam on the battlefield, just as the surge has done today in Iraq. Over Easter 1972, South Vietnamese forces, backed by U.S. airpower, crushed the last communist offensive, killing nearly 100,000 North Vietnamese troops.

{{{{Meanwhile, the American public had been conditioned by the media to see Vietnam as a failed policy, and taught that America had gotten itself in the middle of a “civil war” which the Vietnamese had to sort out themselves.}}}}

{{{{In early 1975 the communists launched a massive attack. President Gerald Ford asked for $1 billion in supplemental funds to help the South Vietnamese, and (dimokrat controlled) Congress refused. They had already pulled the plug on the U.S.-supported government of Lon Nol in Cambodia. Ford had no choice but to order the evacuation of remaining U.S. personnel.}}}}

{{{{At least 65,000 Vietnamese were murdered or shot after “liberation” – the equivalent in terms of Vietnam’s population at the time, of killing three-quarters of a million people in today’s U.S. The new communist regime ordered somewhere between one- third to one-half of South Vietnam’s population to pass through its “re-education” camps, where perhaps as many as 250,000 died of disease, starvation, or were worked to death (the last inmates were not released until 1986).}}}}

{{{{Cambodia’s fate was even worse. At least one and a half million innocent Cambodians were butchered or starved to death in the Khmer Rouge’s killing fields and re-education camps, put to death by a fanatical regime that believed that anyone who wore eyeglasses must have “bourgeois intellectual tendencies” and be shot.}}}}

Dimokrats decide, millions of innocent people die.

Care for a Middle Eastern re do of this most shameful, cowardly chapter in our history?

By Paul

May 1, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Devil You Say 8:30

According to the US State Department’s “Independent States in the World” there are 192 countries. According to the DoD’s “Active DoD Military Personnel Strengths by Regional Area and by Country” we have US military in 135 countries.

And some say we can’t cut the Defense budget -

Hey IThN - you’re missing all the right-wing bias!

By Bosch

May 1, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

In January 2009, you know, when Obama is sworn in as president, we can go to the White House and hang a “Mission Accomplished” sign on the fence!

With me?

By moonbat betty

May 1, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

good toon lucko!

obama/wright ‘08

hope and change you can depend on.

By Bosch

May 1, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Wouldn’t that be because of the embassies? Aren’t they guarded by Marines?

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

I’m with YOU, Bosch! And no matter what The Devil says this morning, the DONKEY has been the foundation of America’s success due to reliable labor, hard work, and creativity!

By @@

May 1, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

I like the way you put all the junk to the left ml. But shouldn’t the “green” weenie, Obama be in “the box”?

Whoops! “There”

he is.

Sorry!

By AmVet

May 1, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

Five years ago today our fighter pilot hero of Alabama courageously landed upon the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln.

Along with McArthur’s wading ashore onto the Philippines, what a memorable moment in US history!

And what American will ever forget that now famous “Mission Accomplished” banner?

Sadly, it has become the very emblem of “conservative” orchestrated misjudgments, lies and mistakes.

And even more, a testament to the deadly and misguided ineptitude of the most arrogant and incompetent President in US history.

4063 Americans needlessly KIA.

Read ‘em and weep…

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

So, who wins the pander-bear of the week award, Hillary or McBush? They’re apparently two of a kind and their “gas-tax holiday” proposal is just a big stinky gas-bag:

Backing up Obama’s position against Clinton’s proposal to suspend the 18.4-cent-per-gallon tax for the summer is a slew of economists who argue that the proposal, first offered by Sen. John McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee, would be counterproductive. They argue that cutting the tax would drive up demand for gas at a time when the supply is tight, which would mean that the price at the pump would drop by much less than 18 cents per gallon.— The tax suspension would, as a result, cut into the highway trust fund that the tax supports, a loss of about $9 billion over the summer, but also result in fatter profit margins for oil companies.

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

The Devil @ 8:28 — and how many elephants have lived in America and contributed to its greatness? I do believe your Party honors an Asian beast, the elephant— and isn’t that so appropriate, with all of the jobs and money that the Elephant Party has shipped over to Asia in the past decade???

By Georgia74

May 1, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

Amazing, the repudlickers never face reality. They dither, dither and dither and never say a thing of substance, call a name or two, and get on with destroying this country.

By food for thought

May 1, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

its sad how the libs eat their own.

wake up folks.

its not the evil bush elephant kicking your azz.

its your own.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Question for you “blame EVERYTHING on Bush” liberals. What have gas prices been doing in other countries over the past 2-3 years? Have they gone up everywhere or just in the US? Are the evil oil companies in other countries making record profits too or are the US based ones the only “evil” oil companies?

Be careful looking for the answers. It might make you actually think for a minute about what’s going on in the world and what needs to be done to correct it (assuming it’s actually correctable).

By Aaron

May 1, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Obama says he grew up less privileged than rivals

Awwhhh! Poor Barack.

Does this guy think pity will get him in the white house? Weak man WEAK!

By GMAN

May 1, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

There should also be a “so-called” newsperson and a sheet-wearing Klansman in this cartoon as well. THE CRACKER FACTOR IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THE USA!

By truthman

May 1, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Man, you hit it on the head!! It’s the corporate-owned “dittohead” media that keeps beating that dead horse…plus a bunch of stupid white folk that, somehow, seem to congregate to this blog!!

However, I did, FINALLY, see one story about McCain’s pastor, Rev. John Hagee, on MSNBC last night. Why oh why does such a hateful nutcase get such a free pass from the C-O media…oh, that’s right, it’s easier for ignorant white folk (Dunce/Devil/@@/Shawny/RW to be scared of “THE BLACK MAN”

By truthman

May 1, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Man, you hit it on the head!! It’s the corporate-owned “dittohead” media that keeps beating that dead horse…plus a bunch of stupid white folk that, somehow, seem to congregate to this blog!!

However, I did, FINALLY, see one story about McCain’s pastor, Rev. John Hagee, on MSNBC last night. Why oh why does such a hateful nutcase get such a free pass from the C-O media…oh, that’s right, it’s easier for ignorant white folk (Dunce/Devil/@@/Shawny/RW to be scared of “THE BLACK MAN”

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

It’s a really ugly scene when the Neo-cons of the Repug Party turn on each other and point their fingers at each other:

Paul Wolfowitz, the Pentagon’s No. 2 during and after the invasion of Iraq, now says officials were “clueless” when it came to fighting insurgents.

Yeah, you clueless Neo-cons — disbanding the Iraqi army may have been just one of the many BAD decisions you made, and now look where your incompetence and cluelessness has gotten us!

By Paul

May 1, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Bosch

Excellent question. I researching it, I found 135 is incorrect. It’s 136, according to more recent sources. We’ve added Guyana.

We don’t have embassies in all countries with which we have diplomatic relations. We don’t have Marines at all countries in which we have embassies.

But it appears the breakout for figures of Marines deployed to foreign countries does not include embassies.

Note: this does not mean we have bases in all those countries. Just military personnel.

Now take a look at states that have military forces (exclude Guard and Reserves). Then take a look at states with businesses with military contracts. Then think about Congressmen getting reelected because the bring home the bacon.

If you really want to touch a few nerves, extend the “corporate welfare” concept to local businesses doing business with DoD (a primary factor considered by the Base Closure and Realignment Commissions is “economic impact.” Read: local jobs.).

By truthman

May 1, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

GMAN,

Great minds thins alike…and stupid, bed-wetting Andi doesn’t think at all!!

Bwahahaha!!

Bring it on, maricon!!

By Paul

May 1, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Goldie

Don’t I recall “someone” on this blog hammering me unmercifully when I pointed out the “fault” for lack of post-invasion operations was not entirely Pres Bush’s - but rested also with the Commander, Centcom; the Chairman, JCS (principal military advisor to the Pres) as well as the State Dept? Also one of the “booktour generals” who was Wolfowitz’s military advisor? I may have included the Intel agencies in there, too.

By RW-(the original)

May 1, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

If there’s anyone reading that has heard the squawking left talking about the so called “mission accomplished” speech for five years, you may want to read it for yourself.

By truthman

May 1, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

i eat crackers

hear me whistle!

By Bosch

May 1, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Wow Paul, you’ve been busy this morning.

Interesting indeed.

By GMAN

May 1, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Jobless rate is rising, foreclosure numbers are increasing, gas prices (automobile and natural) are skyhigh, number of people without medical insurance steadily rising, and the #1 story every evening is… Rev Jeremiah Wright! MY GOD WHAT A COUNTRY! THE CRACKER FACTOR IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THE USA!

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 9:36 — I agree with your assessment that Dubya has been an abysmal Commander-in-Chief. We can only dream about if we had someone in that position who was not “clueless” for the past 8 years…

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

By Goldie 9:10 AM

{{{with all of the jobs and money that the Elephant Party has shipped over to Asia in the past decade???}}}

Can you provide evidence of 1 job the R’s have “shipped” to Asia?

Can you provide evidence of 1 bill the D’s have sponsored to prevent it?

By RW-(the original)

May 1, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Remember the myth about Bush 41 and the grocery scanner?

No wonder she didn’t follow through on her promise to pump the gas. She can’t even pump the coffee.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

By Goldie 9:10 AM

{{{with all of the jobs and money that the Elephant Party has shipped over to Asia in the past decade???}}}

Can you provide evidence of 1 job the R’s have “shipped” to Asia?

Can you provide evidence of 1 bill the D’s have sponsored to prevent it?

By Paul

May 1, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Server seemed to freeze on me the last ten minutes last night. But thanks for the good laugh I got from your “The university probably put Ayers past on the positive side of the ledger.”

BTW - I have it on good authority the U Colorado/Boulder accounting program has lost its accreditation.

Mission Accomplished - thanks for the link. It’s the recognition, we now see, of different phases and types of warfare.

I’ve always thought it interesting that some of the most vocal critics also did not see it coming.

@@

My post to you didn’t go through, either. Regarding Obama’s campaign funds, according to FactCheck, he can pretty much do what he wants with them as long as it’s not personal use.

I recall you said your husband told you that. Let’s see…. dear diary… momentous event… a husband was correct…

By DirtyDawg

May 1, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Perhaps the most disheartening thing of all in reading the responses here is the realization that there is a substantial percentage of people out there that somehow remain not only satisfied with their choice of President these past four years but seemingly proud of it, and see nothing wrong with what his policies, henchmen and criminal methods have done to this country. Shame on you and I only hope that one day you’ll be able to admit to yourselves that you were, indeed, wrong. Then again if you’ve been this stupid for this long how could one expect you to suddenly ‘get it’? See I told you I was disheartened.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

By GMAN 9:43 AM

Keep playing that race card, GMAN. That’ll sure solve all those problems!!

By Abomi Nation

May 1, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Things aren’t nearly as bad as they seem everyone, RB from Gwinnett has been keeping his eye on a Real Estate billboard and says every thing is a-okay!

Happy days are here again!!!

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

By GMAN 9:43 AM

Keep playing that race card, GMAN. That’ll sure solve all those problems!!

By Irony Calling

May 1, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

How ironic. RB asking Goldie for proof of something, while never providing any for his own outlandish comments.

By Goldie the Ignorant

May 1, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Goldie, if we had of had Kerry or Gore as the Commander-in-Chief, we would still have foreclosures out the backside, gas prices would still be rising, people without health insurance would still be on the rise.

The big differences would be mandatory French language lessons for our children and probably more terrorist attacks on US soil.

Clueless, best describes the people on the left.

By GMAN

May 1, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett

Keep avoiding the obvious and be as blissful as a clam in water slowly coming to a boil. The use of the term “race card” was invented to attempt to trivialize things regarding race in this country by the those whose “bulls are not being gored” as an old man once said. THE CRACKER FACTOR IS STILL ALIVE AND WELL IN THE USA!

By AmVet

May 1, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Dawg,

Great point. And one now obvious to most Americans. At least those with a spine.

Goldie,

Clueless is the PERFECT adjective for these non-conservative “conservatives” who continue to desperately dance and spin like whirling dervishes (Elaine in Seinfeld?) on behalf of their Republican heroes Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld/Chambless/Purdue.

I suppose anything is possible, but is truly almost impossible to imagine an administration that could be as duplicitous, immoral, inept and as deadly as this one - Republican or Democrat. Liberal or conservative (as in conservative in reality, not just name.)

So the neo-con’s second consecutive national a$$-whipping is at hand.

I can barely imagine the immense joy felt by the majority in this wonderful republic after the upcoming November elections. Talk about the right of the people … to petition the Government for redress of grievances!

01-20-09 The End of an Error

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Paul - there is NO doubt that the defense budget is bloated. However, the figures concerning where we have troups are rather inflated as well. Sometimes we have one or two military advisers in a friendly country. That is really a bad example of military waste. We have far too many ‘earmarks’ for the defense budget and too many thinly disguised pet projects which contribute nothing to national security. Too many communities have become dependent on military bases for economic underpinnings when they needed to develop domestic industries and businesses. Since bases are already there, many should be closed and oil refineries should be built on those sites. However, the radical environmentalists are hell bent upon constricting the supply of energy from ANY form in this country. It’s funny how all of this comes full circle and the answers are clear, but no one wants to hear them!

By mm

May 1, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Why are we in all of those countries?

Because we can’t mind our own business.

We give money and food and arms to other countries, but we can’t take care of our own.

The real reason for gas prices: war in Iraq, devaluation of the dollar.

Gas goes up, everything goes up.

Deregulation and greed can be blamed for the economic mess.

Quit whining about domestic oil. Sell your SUV.

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

{{Clueless, best describes the people on the left.}}

Ignorant @ 10:07 — are you claiming that Paul Wolfowitz is now “on the left” when he decries who is clueless??? Good try, but Wolfowitz is definitely one of your right-wingnut friends, along with Rumsfeld, Cheney, Perle, and the other incompetents in this GONZO administration!

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

AmVet @ 10:12 — oh, if only we had some “true conservatives” in charge of this administration instead of these extremists… what a wonderful world it might be!

By AmVet

May 1, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

{{if we had of had Kerry or Gore as the Commander-in-Chief, we would still have foreclosures out the backside, gas prices would still be rising, people without health insurance would still be on the rise.}}

True enough.

What we wouldn’t have is 4063 flag-draped coffins thanks to George W. Bush and his band of merry chickenhawks…

THE CRACKER FACTOR IS STILL ALIVE AND WELL IN THE USA!

GMAN,

I believe it is called the GOP’s “Southern Strategy”.

By getalife

May 1, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

The gop had nothing to run on until Wright hit the corporate media.

I say run Omama and lose to get the gop to clean up their mess. They can’t govern and this will finish off our country and their party.

You get what you vote for.

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Goldie - You really take the cake. The elephant used by the Republican Party as a symbol is an African beast. It is gentle and intelligent. The jackass has been responsible for such things in American history as: Jim Crow Laws, the Trail of Tears, Segregation of Washington, D.C., hosing civil rights marchers in Alabama, Tammany Hall, the Vietnam War debacle and I could go on and on, but I think that maybe even you might get the point.

The Republican party is responsible for: freeing the slaves, the passage of every civil rights law on the federal level, civil service reform, the end of school segregation, passage of the Pure Food and Drug Act and the Meat Inspection Act, the first child labor laws, passage of the 19th Amendment (women’s sufferage), the election of the first woman to the House of Representatives and the end of the Cold War.

I will take the elephant over the rather unintelligent and disagreeable jackass any day!

By N-GA

May 1, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I think that the initial reference to having a military presence in Korea, Germany, etc. related to military bases because that can be spun as an occupying presence.

Of course you know more than most that when the US raises the possibility that we might close a military base, the local people go absolutely berserk (with a few exceptions). These bases are economic systems in and of themselves. The local economies are completely dependent upon them for jobs, retail sales, etc. And our government typically pays a small fortune to lease the land upon which these bases are built.

The same thing happens when bases here in the US are selected for closure.

By AmVet

May 1, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Goldie et al,

The ONLY thing good I can see coming out of this 8 year clusterf&ck called the Bush administration is that it spells the demise of these reprehensible neo-cons and their phony conservatism.

At least to the point, where they will be completely impotent and irrelevant…

By Bosch

May 1, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

Can you tell me how building oil refineries on closed military bases will help our nation?

By Lalas

May 1, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

US refineries are only running at 80% capacity right now. Jeez people read the news.

By truthman

May 1, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Female Silver Star winner removed from unit because she is a woman.

I kid you not. It’s in today’s Washington Post.

How stupid is that!! We’re arming Iraqi women and calling them “Daughters of Iraq,” but a woman who is Hooah enough to win the Silver Star, the third-highest award for valor, can’t serve in her unit because she’s a woman!

Such hypocrisy!!

By Paul

May 1, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Devil You Say

The DoD site is slow this morning, so here’s the DoD chart on globalsecurity.

Link: Military Forces Worldwide

You are correct, some of the missions are small. Some small ones are even Special Forces teams doing humanitarian assistance, believe it or not. But the fact is, it’s a lot of countries. But it’s like the budget - a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you’re talking real money.

My point all along is DoD is like any other large bureaucracy - programs come into being, policies and processes are established, and their utility can be outlived. But the $$$ remain. So when I hear both Dems and Reps say, in effect, that a measure of care or patriotism is to increase DoD spending, well, I have to question that.

Keep funding constant, eliminate one program, you’ve decreased the budget.

McCain’s called for reviewing ALL Federal programs. Haven’t been able to find if ALL include DoD.

I think one reason “the answers are clear, but no one wants to hear them” is just what we’re now witnessing: soundbite attack ads derived from longer statements on involved issues.

Out for a while.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

By Irony Calling 10:07 AM

{{{How ironic. RB asking Goldie for proof of something, while never providing any for his own outlandish comments.}}}

Name one.

By Carol

May 1, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Beautiful!

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

By Irony Calling 10:07 AM

{{{How ironic. RB asking Goldie for proof of something, while never providing any for his own outlandish comments.}}}

Name one.

By truthman

May 1, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

And the first oil refinery should be built at Dobbins when the Naval Air Station closes!

Let’s see how the Cobb-a-kazi’s, probably where AJC/Devil/Dunce-boy’s lives with his mommy, like a refinery in their backyard?

By Paul

May 1, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

N-GA

I’ll delay my departure for a minute - from what, last Friday? Yes, I did see the sarcastic reference to Warren Buffett as a capitalist. My response was just kind of a piggyback comment - as many probably think Warren Buffett is a country singer, and saying “Ho Chi Minh got it right” would cause a few to corkscrew through the ceiling… but having fun sometimes doesn’t work well here.

On the issue you reference, just trying to be consistent and include DoD in with the rest of the Fed Govt when it comes to how it should be treated.

By GMAN

May 1, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Thanks Goldie! The “GOP Southern Strategy” is a nice way of avoiding calling it what it really is… THE CRACKER FACTOR! Many of the responses on this blog reflects it. Hopefully once the elephant and it’s biggest turd are driven from the White House, this country can begin to reflect a true benevolent democracy.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

By mm 10:18 AM

{{{Quit whining about domestic oil. Sell your SUV.}}}

This is a classic example of how completely stupid liberals are. Mental Midget, if I sell my SUV, wouldn’t the person who buys it now OWN a SUV and the net result to the environment and demand on oil be ABSOLUTLY NOTHING? You really are swimming in the shallow end, mm.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

By mm 10:18 AM

{{{Quit whining about domestic oil. Sell your SUV.}}}

This is a classic example of how completely stupid liberals are. Mental Midget, if I sell my SUV, wouldn’t the person who buys it now OWN a SUV and the net result to the environment and demand on oil be ABSOLUTLY NOTHING? You really are swimming in the shallow end, mm.

By truthman

May 1, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

GMAN,

Slight correction…the current regime in control is not Republican, at least not in the Goldwater sense of the word. The late senator from Arizona would have nothing to do with today’s “christian-cracker” consortium.

The current junta is nothing more than a bunch of high school reprobates who probably spent most of their high school years with their heads being shoved in the toilet!!

“Royal-Flush Rove” was his nickname in High School…and, what do you clean a toilet with? A “Toilet Bush!”

By GMAN

May 1, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett

“if I sell my SUV, wouldn’t the person who buys it now OWN a SUV and the net result to the environment and demand on oil be ABSOLUTLY NOTHING?”

This is the typical “head in the sand” attitude that is used by “so-called” conservatives when it comes to reducing carbon emissions here in the USA. They cry, “but what about China?” You guys and gals crack me up! THE CRACKER FACTOR IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THE USA!

By truthman

May 1, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

GMAN…WE ARE “CHINAMERICA!”

They own us, lock, stock and Wal-mart!

Just remind the neo-conmen and women that they are a wholly-owned subsidiary of their own “CHINAMERICA” since their buddies Bush and Cheney sold America to China to finance their war for oil.

By mm

May 1, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

RB,

You are truly the moron. Who the h*ll in their right mind would buy the gas guzzling POS? Maybe one of you environmental terrorist wingnuts.

You see, you are not a terrorist if you try to save the environment. You are a terrorist when you destroy it.

Grind them up for scrap metal. Let the auto manufacturers figure it out. They built the d*mn things.

Your absurd reply shows how narrow minded wingnuts are. Have you ever heard the phrase “Think outside the box”?

By AJC Management

May 1, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Ahhh, the little gems that you can mine from amongst all of the hysterical liberal crying jags:

{{{{Starbucks, faced with a sharp drop-off in customers, reported on Wednesday that earnings declined 21 percent during the second quarter. The report came just a week after Starbucks, the world’s largest coffee chain, warned of lower-than-expected earnings and cut its full-year forecast, citing a decline in quarterly sales and describing the economic environment as the weakest in the company’s history. Wall Street analysts had forecast 19 cents a share for the quarter.}}}}

Pardon me, but a company that charges for their product at about 700% what it is actually worth does not illicit any sympathy from the AJC Management, sorry, but we do not whine about market corrections.

They had it coming, for a long, long time.

Bottled water, remember that, $3 a shot? Is it not practically free now?

Now compare this to the housing market, toothpick stick framed sardine cans stacked up side by side selling for 800 g’s, and now, gasp, the values are in “decline?”

And all of pinko liberalism is hysterical about it?

Why do we even listen to them anymore?

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

The Devil @ 10:25 — some educational info for you regarding the Asian elephant:

Indian Elephant— Elephas indicus— Also Called: Asian Elephant

And what exactly does either the Asian elephant or the African elephant have to do with AMERICA? Nothing, other than belonging to a circus — just like the Repug Party!

By Paul

May 1, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett

Try thinking of it in terms of a hose with a bulge in the middle. Vehicles enter the hose. The bulge is the mix of vehicles in the system. As new ones enter the bulge they change ownership. The number of vehicles is either relatively constant or slightly growing. As the vehicles wear out they exit the system through the other end of the hose.

So a key factor is the type of vehicle entering the system. If it’s of higher mileage, the overall mileage of the system (bulge) increases.

Size alone isn’t the sole determinant, as you pointed out. Some smaller vehicles (Porsche) don’t do as well as some larger ones (Ford). But weight and engine size are key factors.

But overall, as the new vehicles introduced have higher mpg, over time, the system mpg should increase.

By Paul

May 1, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Goldie

I’m surprised you haven’t pointed out the symbolism of which of the two animals produces the most…. ummmm… byproducts…

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

By GMAN 10:54 AM

{{{This is the typical “head in the sand” attitude that is used by “so-called” conservatives when it comes to reducing carbon emissions here in the USA. They cry, “but what about China?” You guys and gals crack me up! THE CRACKER FACTOR IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THE USA!}}}

The conversation is about reducing the demand for oil thus reducing the price of gasoline, gman. Please explain how reducing carbon emissions does that and how me selling my SUV to someone else who will emit the same carbon I do accomplished ANYTHING. Won’t you just b*** at the person who buys it too?

Or maybe you want us all to just send our SUV’s to the scrap yard and take the financial loss on them in the name of your environmental cause of the week? Are you going to whine about all those vehicles in the scrap yard too? Bottom halfer….

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

By GMAN 10:54 AM

{{{This is the typical “head in the sand” attitude that is used by “so-called” conservatives when it comes to reducing carbon emissions here in the USA. They cry, “but what about China?” You guys and gals crack me up! THE CRACKER FACTOR IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THE USA!}}}

The conversation is about reducing the demand for oil thus reducing the price of gasoline, gman. Please explain how reducing carbon emissions does that and how me selling my SUV to someone else who will emit the same carbon I do accomplished ANYTHING. Won’t you just b*** at the person who buys it too?

Or maybe you want us all to just send our SUV’s to the scrap yard and take the financial loss on them in the name of your environmental cause of the week? Are you going to whine about all those vehicles in the scrap yard too? Bottom halfer….

By am-not-Vet the Ignorant

May 1, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

(10:23) “What we wouldn’t have is 4063 flag-draped coffins thanks to George W. Bush and his band of merry chickenhawks…”

Now tell us how many innocent civilians would have been killed by more terrorist attacks in the USA if we had not taken the war to them? 3000+ for a ‘one day’ attack in 2001. Wouldn’t take too many more attacks like that to make the country wish that we had only lost 4063 people. AND you would be whining that ‘we were attacked and the President didn’t do anything’.

Your ilk will always find something to whine about. It’s too hot…. It’s too cold. You need something to bit$h about to feel important.

Why don’t you go back and play with your little green plastic men?

By truthman

May 1, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Does RB in Gw think if he double-posts, the propaganda will, somehow, become truth?

Truthman thinks that is not so!!

By mm

May 1, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Worst gas guzzling cars in the world

I’d love to see the list of only US made cars.

By Paul

May 1, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

mm

Here you go. The testing was revised a year or so ago to more accurately reflect real-world conditions.

As the article you cited illustrates, take a smaller vehicle, stick in a bigger engine, fuel consumption increases.

Europeans tax engine displacement. Consequently, compared to many of ours, smaller engines produce greater power and get better mileage. Ford’s announced it will pretty much cease V-8 production and go to direct injection turbocharged. Saab (Sweden) figured that out decades ago.

‘Course, as I’ve pointed out numerous times, if people would just drive the speed limit gas consumption would greatly decrease. Doesn’t take all that much longer for most trips.

Link: EPA Gas Mileage Guide

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

{{Now tell us how many innocent civilians would have been killed by more terrorist attacks in the USA if we had not taken the war to them?}}

Ignorant @ 11:30 — why don’t you tell us how many innocent civilians got killed on 9/11 due to Dubya & Co.’s incompentence after receiving an intel memo stating “Bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S.”, and then doing NOTHING WHATSOEVER with the info? Not even having a meeting about what to do with that info? Not even putting our airports and seaports on alert after getting that info???

And besides all that, when exactly did Saddam Hussein ever attack the U.S.? And even if he had threatened to do so, how would he have launched that attack? With a wooden catapult???

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 11:20 — what, do I have to do all the thinkin’??? I always expect your contribution here before the day is over. :>)

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

By mm 11:03 AM

{{{Who the h*ll in their right mind would buy the gas guzzling POS?}}}

Gee, mm, maybe somebody who works for a living, needs the space to move tools, kids, whatever and can’t fit it all into Prius?

You do realize not all of the world lives the same dull life you do, don’t you?

The book value on my SUV is about $10,000. If you’ll write me a check for that, I’ll take it down to the scrap yard and have it ground up for you. Until then, please try thinking of solutions that actually do something positive and not your normal knee jerk sound bite crap that doesn’t accomplish ANYTHING.

By Paul

May 1, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Goldie

Hopefully, my “contribution” isn’t of the same order as that described at 11:20…

By AmVet

May 1, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Ignorant,

Nice name, oh courageous one.

Let me guess, yet another garden variety, never-served, never-will, chest pounding chickenhawk?

So in your brilliant military mind, completely bungling an invasion and occupation of Iraq has kept the nation free from another 9/11?

A moronic “argument” to say the least.

And as you almost certainly have no dog in the fight, I seriously doubt you could give a flying f&ck about those 4063 Americans needlessly KIA. Nor their families.

So if after all of these years of deception and utter incompetence, and all of those wasted precious lives, not to mention the gazillions of dollars, you are still clueless, it is no one’s fault but yours.

But gullibility and cowardice are not the biggest of your fatal flaws, I fear.

Stupidity seems to be at the top of the list.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

By Paul 11:15 AM

Thanks, Paul, but I don’t need your help with that concept. I’ve said on here before, a fair part of the solution is to gradually increase the CAFE standards to force higher mileage vehicles into the marketplace. BUT, that will take 10 years or so to have a meaningful effect on the overall consumption because the current fleet of vehicles has to be removed from the picture. It’s a part of the solution, but not the only solution. There is no single answer to this problem.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

By Paul 11:15 AM

Thanks, Paul, but I don’t need your help with that concept. I’ve said on here before, a fair part of the solution is to gradually increase the CAFE standards to force higher mileage vehicles into the marketplace. BUT, that will take 10 years or so to have a meaningful effect on the overall consumption because the current fleet of vehicles has to be removed from the picture. It’s a part of the solution, but not the only solution. There is no single answer to this problem.

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Paul - pound for pound, the jackass produces the most ‘fertilizer.’ The fact is that the Democrats have the mascot they most deserve. It describes them perfectly!!! They are stubborn and will not budge - and what happens to them in the end? Remember the bridge scene in Sicily in ‘Patton’?

By Paul

May 1, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett

Didn’t mean to intrude - but as RW pointed out oh so long ago, part of the reason for posting is to not address the original poster but to reach those who read here.

I do agree - a multifaceted approach is needed. But as with so much, it’s polarized - each side wants the other to give up everything and contribute nothing. Witness BOR’s questions to Hillary regarding nuclear power and what was it - coal? Gotta have a mix.

As far as the 10 years, ten years will come no matter what. Only difference will be in what we did differently now.

Out for a while.

By Paul

May 1, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Devil you say

LOL! See? It really does depend on your point of view.

Now my lunch date is getting quite impatient -

By amVet the Ignorant

May 1, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Sorry, amvet, I did serve 6 years. I do have relatives currently serving. No, my son and daughter nor my spouse or I are not currently serving. And that changes what?? Are you currently serving in the military? I suspect not. But you sure are good at undermining our troops aren’t you.

Attacking terrorist wherever they are is a bad thing…how?

Have we been attacked, on out soil, since the invasion?

By Bosch

May 1, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Mr. Ignorant,

How did taking the war to Iraq make us any safer? I think we should fight them over here - that is, whoever the hell “them” is.

But I think we should invite all American hating jihadists over here and have an all out war. These are our enemies, and ours alone, this way, we get them over here away from their resources, and of course we’ll beat them.

This way, it’s EVERYBODY’S war, and everyone has a stake in it, and everybody owns it. If this war is so damned important to our national security and the future of our nation, then we need to own it.

The innocent men, women, and children who have been maimed or killed in Iraq have suffered enough. It’s time to fight our own enemy.

By AmVet

May 1, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Ignoramus,

I am usually a bit naive about taking people at their word, but if you have actually served on active duty, I will drop it.

You have not yet earned the right to know about my or my son’s service to the nation. Ask some of your kindred spirits here who doubted it.

That you may have served does not change your obvious cowardice as regards your selection of screen names.

Nor you initial juvenile delinquent-like post on this blog.

And your argument is simply irrational.

If you simply cannot deduce that the reason we have had no more airplanes flying into buildings had nothing to do with waking up and better securing air traffic, passport control, expelling suspects with expired visas, etc. you are simply hopeless.

Getting rid of Saddam under the cloak of deception and misinformation, did not have one single, solitary thing to do with that. Or making us safer.

Had we blasted Saudia Arabia to bits for five years, you could make the analogy that there was a connection with 9/11.

But you wouldn’t dare do that. Because for Bush apologists like you, it is ALL about Iraq.

And IMHO Bush made all of us proud by putting a serious a$$-whipping on those murderous b@stards in the Taliban. And I was EXTREMELY thankful he survived those attacks. It would have been a thousand times worse for the nation had he perished too. And like virtually ALL Americans, I fully supported him in the days following those darkest of days.

But then with the idiotic advice of his arrogant and misguided advisors and with the support of screw ups like you, I suppose, he shiited the bed…

But he and his gutless gang will be gone soon, and some other Americans can straighten out his debacle and get us back on track to fight the real enemy WHEREVER they are…

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

{{Attacking terrorist wherever they are is a bad thing…how?}

Ignorant @ 12:16 — by your non-logic, your guy Dubya should have invaded Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria, Indonesia, and Libya instead of Iraq.

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

AmVet the Ignorant - all of your points are quite valid! Touche!!

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

{{Have we been attacked, on out soil, since the invasion?}}

Also, Ignorant @ 12:16 — Have you asked those citizens of Europe the same question? You know, our allies like Britain and Spain… one might consider our allies before posting about “on out soil”.

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Goldie - by your logic we never should have attacked North Africa during World War II because it was still technically occupied by the French, even though they were Vichy French. We could have chosen to fight on almost any front, but we chose that one because it was the best front at the time. Iraq is the best front at this time.

By Bosch

May 1, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

How is Iraq the best front now? What about Afghanistan?

Going running. Be back later.

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Also, Ignorant @ 12:16 — how ‘bout we invade South Africa next? Or, like Condi Rice, are you finally “embarrassed”, too?

U.S. has Mandela on terrorist list

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

The Devil with your excuses @ 12:55 — then why not just stay in Saudi Arabia where we already had troops and perform “regime change” right there? What was wrong with “that front”???

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

{{Nor you initial juvenile delinquent-like post on this blog.}}

Amvet, I don’t understand this sentence.

By mm

May 1, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

RB,

Have you ever heard of a trade-in? Let the dealer figure out what to do with your SUV. Maybe they can sell them to cities for public transportation. Replace those big, diesal guzzling buses with 40 seats and 3 passengers.

Tell me o’ fountain of stupidity, how Americans ever moved their tools and kids before SUV’s came along.

Just like Bush, you’ll never admit you are wrong.

Most SUV’s must be owned by wingnuts. Why do I say that?

Because according to your limited mind, all libs live off of welfare and food stamps. So they surely couldn’t afford a high dollar SUV.

Unless of course, the government is now giving out car stamps.

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

AmVet— just so you know, I got name-jacked @ 1:05. And we all know who usually does that…

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

By mm 1:05 PM

{{{Have you ever heard of a trade-in? Let the dealer figure out what to do with your SUV. Maybe they can sell them to cities for public transportation. Replace those big, diesal guzzling buses with 40 seats and 3 passengers.}}}

Is anyone (or everyone) here as amazed at the sheer stupidity of this person as I am? It makes me nervous to think people like this actually wander around our cities, driving cars, operating machinery, etc? Darwin can’t get this fool out of the gene pool soon enough. Dang…

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Bosch - Iraq is where the folks that want to get at us are located, at least right now. In Afghanistan, it really is still a civil war, allbeit one that we have an interest in. Afghanistan actually has the ability to be more of a quagmire than Iraq - just ask the British and the Russians. Extracting ourselves from that polyglot of tribal rivalries will be quite difficult.

This war is by far the most difficult that we have EVER prosecuted. The President told us the truth when it started - it would be on many fronts and it would not have a definite end. If you think about it, it really did not even have a definite beginning, just a really nasty wake-up call after years of indecision - Beirut barrack, Cobart Towers, the First Twin Towers bombing, the USS Cole. There is enough blame to go around, but we finally acted. What I am afraid of is that we will be lulled into a false sense of security because we have not been attacked domestically in so long. We will leave Iraq and then our enemies will be emboldened and then the merde will really hit the fan! Appeasement and surrender are just not the way to a lasting piece - have a seance with the ghost of Neville Chamberalain and ask him!

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

By mm 1:05 PM

{{{Have you ever heard of a trade-in? Let the dealer figure out what to do with your SUV. Maybe they can sell them to cities for public transportation. Replace those big, diesal guzzling buses with 40 seats and 3 passengers.}}}

Is anyone (or everyone) here as amazed at the sheer stupidity of this person as I am? It makes me nervous to think people like this actually wander around our cities, driving cars, operating machinery, etc? Darwin can’t get this fool out of the gene pool soon enough. Dang…

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Goldie - I would love to do regime change in Saudi Arabia, or any other dictatorship. The trouble with that is the government in Saudi Arabia rules over a much more homogeneous population with few religious dissenters. These poor fools don’t know any better. Because you cannot lock out the outside world forever in this age of electronic communications, that will change, but it will take quite a while.

Iraq was a perfect place for regime change because large segments of the population just despised the vile dictator.

As Gauis Gracchus told Julius Caesar, politics is a practical profession. It is the art of achieving the possible.

By AmVet

May 1, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Though it was an awkward sentence on my part and I left out the R in your, it seemed a VERY odd question from such a rational person as yourself!

I suppose the name jacking and the embarrassment in choosing and using a single name further attests to just how desperate the worst of the neo-cons here have become.

By The Devil You say

May 1, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

Have any of you broad-minded liberals gone to see ‘Expelled’ yet? I saw Gore’s film and all of Michael Moore’s propaganda before I passed judgment on them.

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

{{We will leave Iraq and then our enemies will be emboldened and then the merde will really hit the fan!}}

The Devil @ 1:20 — don’t look now, but the merde has already hit the fan… and because of you Bush-kissers, Al-Qaida continues to grow exponentially all over the world. No one has emboldened the hateful extremists more than your guy Dubya — Bin Laden is rejoicing this very day because you’ve grown his following just like he wanted! You should be so proud of how you make Bin Laden feel today!

By Goldie

May 1, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

The Devil @ 1:25 — you’re forgetting about the millions of women in Saudi Arabia who could be considered “religious dissenters”… or don’t they matter? And besides, which country has been funding the most Islamic terrorists to kill Americans? I think that would have been the Saudis back in 2001…

By mm

May 1, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

RB,

As always, when you run out of lame excuses, you resort to childish name calling.

True to wingnut form, you sit on your hands and do nothing, then blame the Democrats for not fixing the problem.

No wonder our great country is circling the drain.

Now you keep right on driving around with your family and your Playskool tool box in your luxury landbarge, all the while blaming someone else for not drilling for oil.

By Irony Calling

May 1, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

{{{Is anyone (or everyone) here as amazed at the sheer stupidity of this person as I am? It makes me nervous to think people like this actually wander around our cities, driving cars, operating machinery, etc? Darwin can’t get this fool out of the gene pool soon enough. Dang…}}}

Anyone want to touch this?

RB’s attempt at an autobiography.

By AJC Management

May 1, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Don’t look now but the USS Klanner is taking on water:

{{{{A leader of the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton switched his allegiance to Barack Obama on Thursday and urged fellow Democrats to end the bruising nomination fight.}}}}

{{{{“This has got to come to an end,” former Democratic National Committee Chairman Joe Andrew told reporters in his hometown of Indianapolis just days before Tuesday’s crucial state primary. He said he planned to call all the other superdelegates he knows and encourage them to back Obama.}}}}

Glug, glug, glug, when will the rats start jumping off the side?

By Abomi Nation

May 1, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Irony, that statement comes from the same blogger who judges the real estate market from billboards! The stupidest comment ever made on these blogs!! LMAO

Keep it up RB, your always good for a laugh!

What are the billboards telling you today RB??!!??

By bon scott

May 1, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

By am-not-Vet the Ignorant - May 1, 2008 11:30 AM “- Now tell us how many innocent civilians would have been killed by more terrorist attacks in the USA if we had not taken the war to them? 3000+ for a ‘one day’ attack in 2001. Wouldn’t take too many more attacks like that to make the country wish that we had only lost 4063 people. AND you would be whining” that ‘we were attacked and the President didn’t do anything’

Just when you’ve educated or at least shut up the “ignorant”, another “ignorant” pops up. So here, for your wide eyed revelation, are the facts.

By far the most of the 4000+ Americans who have died in the “war against terror have died in Iraq, not Afghanisan and neighboring Pakistan, headquarters of Al Qaeda.

Iraq’s Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction.

He had nothing to do with 9/11.

Saddam’s regional influence had been crippled, thanks to the “no fly” zones imposed by the British, French and US beginning with the term of President George H.W. Bush after the 1991 Gulf War, continuing through the Clinton administration, and ending only on the day “W” invaded Iraq.

Forget his regional influence. He had no concrete plans to attack the US. He knew he’d be killed if he did. As it turned out, he was.

He hosted no anti-American terror training camps.

In conclusion, he was no threat to the US, and the Iraq invasion has needlessly cost us thousands of lives and hundreds of millions of $$.

You’re entitled to your own opinion, “ignorant”, but don’t repeat them too loudly, or you’ll come across as the “ignorant” you are. Among other things, it won’t get you many good dates.

By AmVet

May 1, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Now, THAT is what I’m talking about!

Get ‘em, Air Force!

U.S. war planes killed an Islamist rebel said to be al Qaeda’s leader in Somalia and as many as 30 other people on Thursday in Washington’s biggest blow against an insurgency raging since 2007.

The rebels said Aden Hashi Ayro — who led al Shabaab militants blamed for attacks on government troops and their Ethiopian allies — died in the first major success for a string of U.S. air-strikes on Somali insurgents in the last year.

“Infidel planes bombed Dusamareb,” Shabaab spokesman Mukhtar Ali Robow told Reuters by phone, referring to a town in central Somalia, where body parts lay strewn round a wrecked house.

“Two of our important people, including Ayro, were killed.”

The U.S. Central Command confirmed it was behind the attack.

By getalife

May 1, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

“Quinnipiac: Clinton Shows Strength in Swing States The new Quinnipiac Swing State Poll shows Sen. Hillary Clinton riding strong support among white working class voters to beat Sen. John McCain in three key swing states — Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

However, if Obama is the Democratic nominee, he’s in a tight race with McCain in Florida and Ohio, but takes Pennsylvania.

Florida: Clinton 49%, McCain 41%; McCain 44%, Obama 43%

Ohio: Clinton 48%, McCain 38%; McCain 43%, Obama 42%

Pennsylvania: Clinton 51%, McCain 37%; Obama 47%, McCain 38%

Said pollster Peter Brown: “If the super delegates are looking at electability, these results could be a shot in the arm for Sen. Clinton. No one has won the White House since 1960 without carrying two of these three swing states, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. And she clearly is running much better against Sen. McCain than is Sen. Obama, at least for now.”

Very strange the supers are going for Obama at this time.

It is like the Dems want to lose.

Probably don’t want to be blamed for what is coming like w did on the economy.

Why w and cheney are still getting a free pass is beyond me.

Folks should be screaming for their resignations but nothing but crickets.

Amazing.

By Mel

May 1, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

This place is quite active today. The likes of RB, homo/AJCman,etc. Couch-cowards all, carrying on about “vets,” etc. Little men, shaved-headed, cap-wearing, SUV/PU-driving wimps who possess no sense and no lives,but derive their sustenance from their need to pretend and identify with the utra-Repug zillionaires of the country. Pathetic people. Now, Devil, you’re older than most of these swilling little punks, so what’s you excuse for a lifetime of constant culpable ignorance and deranged dogma-following?? (I may not get a chance to glance back today, but do enlighten the others here with your wisdom, OK?)

By AJC Management

May 1, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

The thoughtful and well considered approach to education:

{{{{Rep. John Moolenaar of Midland, Mich., who sponsored his state’s academic freedom bill and was a science major in college, said it’s only fair that students and teachers question, for example, >>>>phenomena like the sudden appearance of diverse species, not explained by theories of gradual progression.<<<<<}}}}

{{{{“Educators should have the freedom to bring in the best scientific information to facilitate those discussions,” Moolenaar said. “We’re trying to get students to ask the question: What scientific evidence exists for what theories?”}}}}

And then the hysterical overreaction to it by the pinko liberals:

{{{{“These anti-evolution bills are really the creationism du jour, an end run around the legal decisions that have banned the outright teaching of creationism,” said Eugenie C. Scott, executive director of the National Center for Science Education in Oakland, Calif.}}}}

One must wonder why the Code Pinkos need the courts to protect their beloved junk science, hahaha.

Will it not withstand scrutiny?

By Bill

May 1, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Fools. The U.S. has no business whatever being in Iraq or Afghanistan. Conventional warfare is not the prescription for fighting terrorism, but we never learn that fact. Kicking butt militarily doesn’t work anymore. It has long been very clear that the extremist enemy has devised a counterstrategy previously tested against the Soviet Union for many years. Bog down the opposing military machine far from home, then wear it down psychologically through expensive and bloody attrition. The Soviets were defested soundly and roundly, and departed completely broken - and their army was a helluva lot tougher than U.S. forces, if only because of the spartan, total lack of luxury lives with which they grew up. If the US strikes Iran, Iran will inflict a devastating defeat upon the U.S. in Iraq, and world opinion will become even greater inflamed against America. Meanwhile, an ignorant, frightened, trembling America is a pro-Bush, pro-Republican America. Congratulations to all you…”heroes.”

By Paul

May 1, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

AmVet 2:40

“Infidel planes”

I love it -

getalife

Hope you were here yesterday to catch my post. Hillary was on BOR. Good performance. I believe the entire interview is online. Second part is tonight.

MoveOn and Kos act like it didn’t happen. Huffington called it, grudgingly, the best policy interview of the season. But a lot of the diehards accused her of being a closet Republican. That’s enough evidence she done good.

Bill

“The U.S. has no business whatever being in Iraq or Afghanistan”

Taliban was a proxy gov’t for al Qaeda. They’re gone. Good first step.

Regarding the Soviet analogy - that was largely debated before and much has been written after. Soviets did not face Islamists. BTW - the mil op there is a NATO op. Soviets “tougher” than US mil because they grew up in a deprived economy? By that logic, the Peruvian army is tougher than ours. Yawn. As for your Iran “analysis” - America bad, America doomed. We get it.

By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) Loves Dikkk Cheney

May 1, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney!

I must admit when I first saw the title of this cartoon I hoped it was about my favorite thing, anonymous mens room sex. Oh well.

Anyhow, I’m so excited by the title of this cartoon I’m heading to Hartsfield-Jackson as soon as the blog closes for the Young Republickkklans meeting on Concourse A!

I bringing my tapshoes - and my kneepads!

Ciao! (and kisses)

Andiduh

By Bosch

May 1, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

Paul,

The Taliban aren’t gone.

I agree with what Bill said about conventional military “kick butt” tactics do not work anymore. It’s not about whose got the most guns or the bigger guns. I also agree with what he wrote about wearing down an enemy far from home which is one of the basis for my sarcastic idea of fighting our enemy here instead of over there.

By RB from Gwinnett

May 1, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

By Abomi Nation 2:25 PM

{{{Irony, that statement comes from the same blogger who judges the real estate market from billboards! The stupidest comment ever made on these blogs!! LMAO}}}

This is a perfect example of simple minded liberal logic that leads to comments like these…

{{{Quit whining about domestic oil. Sell your SUV}}} and {{{Have you ever heard of a trade-in? Let the dealer figure out what to do with your SUV.}}}

Abomi, you’ll recall my comment about the real estate billboard was that the ATL market is not as bad as most markets and is not as bad as evidenced by news reports that include places where the market is a complete shambles. I asked you to explain how the number of homes for sale were dropping (based on the billboard) if the market was so bad and your reply was to bash me endlessly for months without ever actually adressing the question. If you don’t have an answer, a simple “I’m too stupid to actualy formulate a real reply” would be appropriate in your case. Moron.

By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) Loves Dikkk Cheney

May 1, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney!

I’m as good a scientist as that Reverend guy, by the way. He majored in creation science in bible college, I majored in janitorial science while I was getting my GED.

By Midori

May 1, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

haha - good one, Mike!!

BULLSEYE!!!

:)

By Paul

May 1, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Good catch - not gone, but out as the gov’t of Afghanistan. Reconstituting, some say. Still way too much endemic corruption but the Karzai gov’t is making some inroads into the premedieval tribalist mindset. Will it be enough? Who knows.

I do think the Army agrees with you, too. Finally. Witness Gen Petraeus’s promotions. Premier counterinsurgency guy. They can take a long time to change course, but once the momentum shifts… CIA was on the right track until DoD decided money and power were just too important to give up and took over. You know how I cheered Gates for his hits on the other services for being a few years late and a few billion short for this party. (Did you know Gates was the CIA’s main guy when they approached the USAF in the very early ’90s to develop Predator-type aircraft? AF said “No pilots? Forget it! Now he’s SecDef. Payback’s a b!tch).

Lend lease for the Taliban? This blog is full of novel ideas! :-) “Long term” does not mean “bogged down.” As we’ve discussed, when you’re fighting an ideology propelled by unconventional military tactics, a nontraditional approach is required. And it takes a very, very, very long time.

By Daniel

May 1, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Bill: You’re right!

By AJC Management

May 1, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Does anyone one else find it rather revealing that the liberals seem to know exactly what “tools” to bring and where to go to find sex with other men at the airport?

{{{{By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) Loves Dikkk Cheney May 1, 2008 4:35 PM I’m heading to Hartsfield-Jackson as soon as the blog closes for the Young Republickkklans meeting on Concourse A! I bringing my tapshoes - and my kneepads!}}}}

What a dimwit.

By Dusty

May 1, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Just stopped by and lo and behold

LUCKOVICH BLAMES REV WRIGHT ON REPUBLICANS. Well, more or less. I’d say Obama brought him on and Mr. O is a Democrat, in case anybody forgets. Had you ever heard of Wright before Obama came on stage?

Bosch thinks the USA never tried to help Somalia before. Even Hollywood knows better than that…”BlackHawk Down”!

Paul, I wanted Gates to run for President this time. But nobody listened. I hope McCain keeps Gates close at hand. He’s straight-arrow smart.

By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) Loves Dikkk Cheney

May 1, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney! ;->

I know a lot about tools - mops, buckets, and, of course, strap-ons, what with my ‘handicap’ (like most redneck trash, I’m lacking in certain “key” areas ;-> - luckily, I much prefer the role of the ‘lock’).

{{{Now look, I, Andi/duh/AJC Management/ am not gay. I’m whatever it is that Larry Craig is.}}}

{{{Call me a f-ag if you want though. I kinda like it.}}}

{{{After all, it’s kind of hard to talk too dirty to me - I make my living cleaning up in large public mens rooms - I love the sights, the sounds, the smells (especially the smells) and, of course, the sexual tension when young Republicans wander in…}}}

Working tonite - starting as soon as Mike won’t let me blog!

Kisses,

Andiduh/AJC Management

By AJC Management

May 1, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Geez, Amvet, you’re getting awfully descriptive now, aren’t you?

Your experience shows.

{{{{}}}}

By AmVet

May 1, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Under the heading of no shiite:

A new poll suggests that President Bush is the most unpopular president in modern American history.

He is more unpopular than Richard Nixon was just before he resigned from the presidency in August 1974.

President Nixon’s disapproval rating in August 1974 stood at 66 percent.

The poll also indicates that support for the war in Iraq has never been lower - 68 percent of Americans opposed it.

“Americans are growing more pessimistic about the war,” Holland said. “In January, nearly half believed that things were going well for the U.S. in Iraq; now that figure has dropped to 39 percent.”

The numbers on the Iraq war come on the five-year anniversary of Bush’s “Mission Accomplished” moment on board the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, when he proclaimed that “major combat operations in Iraq have ended.”

Support for the war, the assessment of the economy and approval of Mr. Bush are all about the same - bad.

Good job neo-cons!

01-20-09

By AmVet

May 1, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

My bad - I left out the most significant number in that last post.

71%.

As in disapproval rating.

Holy guacamole!

Seventy one percent???

Soon I predict it will be three-quarters of all Americans.

Then perhaps 4 out of 5.

To quote Mr. Gore, “The debate is over”.

W stands for the worst ever…

By Quohelet

May 1, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

How can you tell that this odd election keeps The Media in the dust?

A: Mike Luckovich keeps doing cartoons that say, in effect, “WRONG! THAT’s not the issue! That’s a distraction! THIS canned story that we have is the ISSUE!”

This campaign keeps Mike tearing up perfectly good cartoons he had all press-ready until the damned voters went and changed the cycle again…

By Bosch

May 1, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Why oh why does Dusty try to tell me what I think? I think it’s just to p** me off.

Anyway, Paul, although many disagree, the more nontraditional ways is what Clinton did (i.e. 1998 bombing) which is how I think we should have handled the 9/11 business. Charging in full force is just never a good plan, in my opinion. Too much room for very public mistakes, too much collateral damage, etc. which, oh yeah - we’ve seen a plenty.

I think Gates is a much better Secretary than Rumsfeld, but then again, a rabid monkey would be a better Secretary than Rumsfeld - too bad Gates was a little late for the party as well. I think Sam Nunn would be a better Secretary :-)

By Quohelet

May 1, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

At least she merely tells you what to think, Bosch. Were she a liberal she’d not only tell you how to think, she’d tell you that you need to be taught (guess who!) how to think—-by which point, were you not yourself a liberal, you’d have knocked her out cold.

By Robin

May 1, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Paul, you seem to spend a lot of time here, lecturing about that of which you know nothing whatsoever. Truly you are a dullard. BTW, Bill is utterly correct in his quick observations. The pity is in dweebs like you who fail and resuse to accept or comprehend truth and reality. The blind mind.

By Paul

May 1, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Wikipedia, for all its faults, has a not too bad brief review of the background for the invasion. Briefly, the Taliban was al Qaeda and al Qaeda was the Taliban. Technically inaccurate - just mean they were quite intertwined. What there was as an entire government acting in the interests of al Qaeda - first step on their reconstituted Caliphate, so to speak.

So a bomb run would have been ineffective. That’s really a “traditional” response to a “nontraditional” enemy.

If wishes were fishes…. same song…. US independent of Mideast oil. Turn out the lights, the party’s over. Don’t let the door hit us in the backside on the way out. And if our allies don’t take the same steps - well, we can discuss a more equitable defense sharing arrangement, can’t we?

As we noted earlier - ten years, twenty years will come no matter what we do. Only difference is what we do now to affect the situation then.

Won’t affect Islamist’s views of us in the least. But at least there’ll be one less alligator in the swamp (play on that old “it’s difficult to remember your job is to drain the swamp when you’re up to your @ss in alligators).

By AJC Management

May 1, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

{{{{“I am convinced that the primary process has devolved to the point that it’s now bad for the Democratic Party,” Andrew tells the AP’s Nedra Pickler.}}}}

{{{{Says his letter to fellow superdelegates: “A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue this process, and a vote to continue this process is a vote that assists John McCain.”}}}}

You got that, fellow Repugs?

They are telling us to vote for Bruno.

And so we shall.

Bwa.

By Glenn

May 1, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah there, Paul. Don’t dare say anything realitic about the US army or compare man-to-man physical endurance capacities, backgrounds, et al. That would be jutht more o thet that Librul unpatriotism. we’re gettin better each day - hiring more convicted felons. Great!

By Hans Apology

May 1, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

CNN just reported that Uberdelegate Cynthia McKinney came out for Obama today……..Just in case you thought it couldn’t get any worse for his campaign.

I love to hear how conservatives “took offense” to pastorgate, (heh heh, he said pastorgate), when I take offense to the Dred Scott decision, and the lingering specter of collateral damage in Iraq, and the fact that we still make suv’s that only get 16 miles to the gallon or less, and the way we packed slaves in ships like sardines, and the fact that conservatives still think a rope is an acceptable form of voter ID.

Lincoln was the first to suggest that god had damned america so the veteran wright is just echoing lincoln.

We are at a turning point in racial relations in America now. Voters are asking themselves, (and they’ll deliberate this for 6 months), whether blacks have earned the right to speak about america for america as america. Oh, they have. So if you dont like the black voice, then prepare for a seige. Cause we’re all gonna shout to the heavens for justice. Glory allelulia, his truth is marching on.

Vote Obama. Lets talk race.

By Glenn

May 1, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Just soze yanno, I had nothing to do with the PoFoFest at the end of this string, and nor have I any idea why she chose to address you in my name.

It’s puzzling—isn’t it—how the Paper continues to let this monument to pettiness do its bidding. One gets the impression that the newspaper and the syndicate both are petty in nature.

But I don’t mean to bring up Richard Jewell again…