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By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

Well, well, so cartoon boy thinks that using fifteen year old children in pornography isn’t that big of a deal, eh?

Sicko.

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We got “reporting” from Iraq alright, the Urinal reporting enemy propaganda:

{{{{Dozens of fighters ambushed a U.S. patrol in Sadr City, Baghdad’s main Shiite militia stronghold, on Tuesday, firing rocket-propelled grenades and machine gun bursts. (Oh my, what will we ever do! Oh, mookie’s vast panzercorp armies are on the march, oh, they are shooting rocket propelled grenades with machine gun bursts, shriek, shriek, scream, scream!!) >>>>The U.S. military said 28 militiamen were killed.<<<<-Urinal}}}}

Hahhahahaha, “stronghold,” ahaha, “ambushed,” hahaha, you stupid, sullen goony liberals, such morons.

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Another “raise your taxes” liberal dimokrat cheating on their taxes:

{{{{Senate candidate Al Franken says he will pay about $70,000 in back income taxes in 17 states going back to 2003.}}}}

Do I detect a pattern here?

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This is what an anti American lib sees as a “failure:”

{{{{As a 21-gun salute sounded, the gunmen opened fire. Karzai and foreign dignitaries were whisked to safety by bodyguards. All three assailants died —- one from a gunshot wound and the others apparently by killing themselves with a bomb, Saleh said.-Urinal}}}}

If the target survives and it is still a complete whining collapse of the government, at least as it is portrayed by the kandy as-s AJC, then what was JFK, RFK and MLK, a total ruination of the United States?

{{{{At least one policeman was arrested in the assassination attempt, deepening concerns the Taliban have infiltrated the >>poorly paid security forces.<< The attack also exposed the vulnerability of the capital to militants.-Urinal}}}}

According to that paragraph, if it is translated from goony speak, the Afghans must have a really jam up, well paid security force.

Another Bushie success.

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

{{{{The pique of Obama, while less ridiculous than Wright’s, is in its own way just as small and individualistic: only now does he object to Wright’s outlandish rhetoric as it impedes his path to victory. All the dispute comes down to is: (1) Wright is upset that Obama called him an over-the-hill crazy; and (2) Obama is upset that Wright called him a pandering pol and threatens to foil his election hopes.}}}}

{{{{Obama’s “anger” (interspersed with the usual strained irenic qualifiers) expressed at Tuesday’s press conference was largely self-regarding and showed no real honesty, since he still acts as if Wright’s extremism is a revelation to him and he fails to take any responsibility for indulging his lunacy — a trait which America’s enemies (as evident in Hamas’ endorsement of Obama) have already noticed.-Neumayr}}}}

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{{{{Make no mistake about it, this speech has really painted Barack Obama into a corner. In it, Wright used the term “black church” no less than 25 times, making it very clear that should Obama wish to repudiate him, he must take on the entire black church; or at least the one he attended for 20 years. Indeed, Obama has said that “I can no more disown [Wright] than I can disown the black community.” }}}}

{{{{So either Barack Obama subscribes to what he heard at Wright’s church for 20 years, or he is, like so many politicians, a religious fraud.}}}}

By Goldie

April 30, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

Great drawing of a Fox Noise anchorman, Lucko… Fox Noise, “all garbage, all day!”

By Mike

April 30, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

The viewer’s comment should be “I guess something bad happened in Iraq”. If it was good news it wouldn’t be covered at all.

That being said, the AJC runs crap like the Miley Cyrus story on the front page of the AJC.com every day. I guess Mikey would criticize the AJC too if he wasn’t a hypocrite.

By truthman

April 30, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Hey Andi/Dunce/AJCmismanagement/,

If you’re SO APPALLED by Miss Cyrus’ photo, why do you have it hanging above your bed in your mommy’s basement?

Pervert!!

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

{{{{What keeps these areas closed are exaggerated environmental fears, strong prejudice against oil companies and sheer stupidity. Americans favor both “energy independence” and cheap fuel. They deplore imports — who wants to pay foreigners? — but oppose more production in the United States. Got it? The result is a “no-pain energy agenda that sounds appealing but has no basis in reality,” writes Robert Bryce in “Gusher of Lies: The Dangerous Delusions of ‘Energy Independence.’”}}}}

{{{{Unsurprisingly, all three major presidential candidates tout “energy independence.” This reflects either ignorance (unlikely) or pandering (probable). The United States now imports about 60 percent of its oil, up from 42 percent in 1990. We’ll import lots more for the foreseeable future. The world uses 86 million barrels of oil a day, up from 67 mbd in 1990. The basic cause of exploding prices is that advancing demand has virtually exhausted the world’s surplus production capacity, says analyst Douglas MacIntyre of the Energy Information Administration. The result: Any unexpected rise in demand or threat to supply triggers higher prices.}}}}

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

{{{{By truthman April 30, 2008 8:34 AM Hey Andi/Dunce/AJCmismanagement/, If you’re SO APPALLED by Miss Cyrus’ photo, why do you have it hanging above your bed in your mommy’s basement?}}}}

Did your wife tell you that?

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Wow, it seems Clayton’s new school superintendent is going to have a great job! Working half time, getting paid $285,000 year, $2000/month for housing, use of a car, security. What a sweet deal!

Whose Miley Cyrus?

By AmVet

April 30, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

From the master of misinformation:

{{{{Senate candidate Al Franken says he will pay about $70,000 in back income taxes in 17 states going back to 2003.}}}}

Do we detect a pattern here?

Yes, we do.

Try ACTUALLY reading what the real story is, so as not to look like a blooming (idiot) onion.

Hint: It ain’t what you hope…

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

{{{{I have nothing to say but that doesn’t stop me from saying it}}}}

Blah blah blah Urinal blah blah blah morons blah blah blah liberals blah blah blah sicko blah blah blah Obambi blah blah blah Klintoon blah blah blah.

Time for my meds.

By Road Scholar

April 30, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

What is most discusting about the Miley Cyrus pictures is that her family approved their use! Now let’s move on, and not to reverend Wright. If the repubs want to continue to rehash past history, let’s talk Keating 5, unfaithfulness to a present wife, etc. Move on people.

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

I have just joined the FLDS, for several reasons. I will resume posting later.

By new to AJC blog

April 30, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

What happens if you hit the post button more than once?

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April 30, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

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April 30, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

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April 30, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

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April 30, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

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April 30, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

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By RB from Gwinnett

April 30, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

By Road Scholar 9:09 AM

Hey dunce, here’s a clue for you. The story really has nothing to do with Rev. Wright. The issue isn’t what Rev. Wright said, it’s whether or not Obama AGREES with what Wright said. It’s about the character of Obama, not Wright. Wright is a blow hard white hating bigot from Chicago (based on HIS comments) who isn’t running for office and has no bearing on this country. What IS relevant is why Obama sat in the pews for 20 years listening to Wright’s hate speach if he didn’t agree with it. Kinda hard to explain, eh? I mean, how many of you libs have been sitting in church pews for 20 years listening to sermons you don’t agree with?

Good luck trying to explain this recent “revelation” Obama had that Wright’s speaches are filled with white/American hate. I’m sure that’s something he just started doing recently!!

Oh, and btw, don’t lay this scandal at the feet of the R’s. HRC’s the one fueling this fire. Funny, eh?!!!!!

By Georgia74

April 30, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

RB, How do you spell speech?

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

RB and Road Scholar,

I feel that Wright needs Obama to fail because then he can not play the victim. Being a victim is how he’s made his millions.

When thrust in the national spotlight, people change and do weird things that no one would ever believe. It’s like when a family member dies and all the family who so loved each other start stabbing each other in the back to get the prized dining room table.

I don’t believe for one second that Obama believes the things that Rev. Wright has been saying. If anything, I feel sorry for him.

I’m sure that most of his sermons were great sermons, which is why I don’t question why Obama was a member of his church.

National attention like this, can bring out the really worst in everyone.

By AmVet

April 30, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Bosch at 10:11,

Excellent post.

I, for one, decried Wright’s most noxious comments when I read them.

And I’m reasonably sure, you are correct about the rest of his very different “message”.

Nonetheless, in this day and age of hyper-polarization, NOTHING is to be taken in context or on balance.

And so we see the drivel that passes as debate here…

By mm

April 30, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

RB,

You continue to flog a dead horse (what’s new).

Obama didn’t say it, so who cares?

The so called “liberal media” needs to be hammering on McCain for attaching his lips to the @ss of John Hagee to garner the vote of religious idiots like you and Duh.

But contrary to wingnut beliefs, the media is not liberal. They are corporations, and we know which party panders to corporations.

By bon scott

April 30, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

{{{Comments by Andee SEDPO (Secret Extremist Democratic Party Underground Operative) - April 30, 2008 8:04 AM - Well, well, so cartoon boy thinks that using fifteen year old children in pornography isn’t that big of a deal, eh? Sicko}}}

No, I’d say you’re the sicko. The photos of “Hannah Montana” don’t show any “naughty parts”. Heck, they don’t even show her cleavage. They’re about as porno as those Betty Grable pix that adorned WW2 bunkers. I see more skin on Tybee Island. I guess your “education” at the madras of your choice has given you some extreme ideas about what is porn and what is not.

{{{By anndee SEDPO (Secret Extreme Democratic Party Operative) - April 29, 2008 5:39 PM - {{{{By bon scott April 29, 2008 5:23 PM Like many Democrats, I go to church. Don’t worry, I’m Protestant.}}}}

{{{Does your preacher hate America too, like you and reverend Wright?

You thought I would let this slide?}}}

Andee, you have a way of extrapolating statements into gruesome, unrecognizable caricatures that is beyond compare.

I don’t hate America. I don’t even hate President Bush, although I think his policys are loony. Every week, the congregation at my church hears prayers for the safety of our men and women overseas, and for President Bush. There are no disgusted moans, catcalls, or hurling of vials filled with fake blood.

You see, unlike you. we love our country.

But I have to admit, your campaign to turn fence sitters, undecided and Reagan Democrats (among others) into “anybody but the GOP” is going swimmingly. Why, just this week, you’ve slandered the Roman Catholic Church with the pedophile label. Now you slander mainstream Protestant faiths for hating America. Hint: very few do. Hate is soooo un-Christian. Since you profess to be a typical GOP conservative, you are pushing huge numbers of decent Christians into the Democratic camp, since if Republicans are like you, they want nothing to do with your bigotry, slanders, and outright lies.

You must stay up late at night thinking up totally unfounded charges against people who don’t think exactly like you say you think.

BTW, just how much is the Democratic Party fringe (George Soros, Bernadine Dohrn) paying you for your disinformation campaign?

Just askin’….

By RB from Gwinnett

April 30, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Bosch, I agree Wright has made millions being the victim, but I still don’t give a crap about Wright. HE’S NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

Go read my 10:28 post from yesterday, Bosch, and tell me if you would support a Klanner who played the same stunt Obama’s pulling. Be honest. There is no difference.

And NONE of you can tell me you’ve been going to church for 20 years listening to sermons you don’t agree with. You know that’s a bunch of BS.

By RB from Gwinnett

April 30, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Bosch, I agree Wright has made millions being the victim, but I still don’t give a crap about Wright. HE’S NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

Go read my 10:28 post from yesterday, Bosch, and tell me if you would support a Klanner who played the same stunt Obama’s pulling. Be honest. There is no difference.

And NONE of you can tell me you’ve been going to church for 20 years listening to sermons you don’t agree with. You know that’s a bunch of BS.

By Paul

April 30, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Goldie 8:09

“Fox Noise Garbage” - you may want to reconsider.

Obama had a lengthy interview with Chris Wallace last Sunday. Said he’d enjoy it and would be back.

Hillary’s on Bill O’Reilly’s show tonight and tomorrow.

Obama’s committed to going on BOR’s show.

Wouldn’t want to see their comments and interviews referred to as “garbage.”

In other news, last evening I was listening to Newt Gingrich interviewed on a radio show. Interviewer asked the standard question about Rev Wright and Newt gave the popular response “How could Obama have been associated with him for 20 years and not known… not seen or heard…”

I thought,” Newt! Ask someone who’s been divorced!

Better yet, why don’t YOU tell us? Your previous marriages were about 20 years each, right?”

Not trying to drag someone’s personal life and difficulties into the political arena. Just showing the absurdities of some responses.

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

AmVet,

Thanks. Obama is in a Catch-22. I think people with brains understand the situation at hand and what Wright is doing.

Paul,

I saw Newt boy on John Stewart last night. He was doing the same too, but Stewart was bringing up the Hagee thing with McCain which I think is equally as absurd.

He also played some Scalia interview soundbites. No comment :-)

It would be nice though, for once, for a politician to say to someone who is “endorsing” them: “No thanks. I think your a quack, and I want nothing to do with you.”

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

RB,

I suspect you really don’t give a crap about Obama either, so why all the fuss? Is it even remotely possible that you were ever planning on voting for him?

No, Wright isn’t running for POTUS, that’s my point - Obama is, and the Wright thing doesn’t define Obama’s character.

I suspect that any politician, no matter which party, if you dug hard enough, you would find someone as equally as close to them, and equally as vile.

By RW-(the original)

April 30, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

The top five stories on the AJC home page right now are some actor from CSI getting busted, pictures of Kanye West’s Atlanta connections, a ketchup commercial, Paula Abdul screwing up on AI last night, and a Dolly Parton concert. By all means attack the TV “news” for their frivolity, cartoon boy.

Bosch,

They could just use Reagan’s answer. He said they endorsed him, he didn’t endorse them.

Paul,

We’re you namejacked or are you really comparing the Wright/Obama situation to a failed marriage?

Keep in mind that Obama’s only selling point is his claim of superior judgment.

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

RW,

I have to hand it to Reagan - he had some good lines.

In a way, this Wright/Obama issue is kind of like a failed marriage - good observation (although I know you didn’t mean it that way).

I feel that this, like the flag pin, is just another distraction, and people jump on board wanting to say that Obama believes the absurdities that Wright does, when honestly, they know he doesn’t.

By BS detector

April 30, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

new to AJC blog is running on empty.

What happens if you hit the post button more than once?

You add 11 to the comment total on a dying blog.

Damn your dim.

By mm

April 30, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

I grew up as a southern baptist (forced to go, and it was brutal).

I am still somewhat religious but haven’t attended church since I was 18 (don’t need to explain that one).

I saw things in baptist churches which were every bit as bad as I’ve seen from Hagee and Wright.

I saw bigotry, racism, and a slew of hypocrits. According to baptists, people practicing any other religion are going to hell.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

By RB from Gwinnett

April 30, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

By Bosch 11:09 AM

I notice you completely ignored the paralell to the Klan. Why? Can’t come up with anything anyone with any reasoning skills would buy?

You’re right, I’m not an Obama fan and I won’t be voting for him. He has no business running this country. Or even representing it, IMHO.

By mm

April 30, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

For McCain, the devil is in the details

By RB from Gwinnett

April 30, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 11:09 AM

I notice you completely ignored the paralell to the Klan. Why? Can’t come up with anything anyone with any reasoning skills would buy?

You’re right, I’m not an Obama fan and I won’t be voting for him. He has no business running this country. Or even representing it, IMHO.

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

mm - I am an Episcopalian whose mother was Catholic and father was a Southern Baptist. I have NEVER heard a Southern Baptist preacher tell a congregation or an individual that they are going to Hell if they are not Southern Baptists. I have heard Catholic priests say that. You might be confusing a statement about people who have heard the word of the Gospels and who have not converted will not go to heaven, but that is quite different. It is also in keeping with Christ’s parable about the sower of the seeds found in Matthew.

Please don’t make blanket statements which are bigotted and highly prejudicial and suspect. It reveals you for the narrow minded person you are.

By RB from Gwinnett

April 30, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

By mm 11:56 AM

And let he who is without a brain fail to understand the difference in you not wanting to attend church with the {{{ bigotry, racism, and a slew of hypocrits}}} for 20 years lest you be associated with people you don’t agree with and Obama who sat there for 20 years listening to hate spewed from the pulpit and claiming he didn’t know.

By Paul

April 30, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Bosch 11:44

What I was clumsily trying to illustrate was - ask anyone who was married for a long, long time who’s divorced. If they’ll talk about how they first were, saw each other. How new situations would come up and how they’d act. How same situations came up and how they then acted differently. Ask how they changed over time. Ask how the other stayed the same but the (all caps) perception of the situation changed.

Newt’s been through it twice. He should know. If he doesn’t, more’s the pity.

Judgment is one thing. Having a vision, an idea, along with the means to bring it to pass is something else. Rather a component of leadership.

Out for a bit -

By RB from Gwinnett

April 30, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

By mm 11:56 AM

And let he who is without a brain fail to understand the difference in you not wanting to attend church with the {{{ bigotry, racism, and a slew of hypocrits}}} for 20 years lest you be associated with people you don’t agree with and Obama who sat there for 20 years listening to hate spewed from the pulpit and claiming he didn’t know.

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

RB,

A little narcissistic are we? I didn’t go back and read your post, so therefore have no comment.

But anytime the Klan is brought up in discussion by someone who is actually trying to compare them to any candidate running for president, I tend to just skip on over that and recognize it for the absurdity it represents.

Your opinions, while your own to enjoy, are usually not congruent with my own, so it’s not a matter of ignoring your posts, it simply a matter of choice on my part.

By mm

April 30, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Devil,

Where in my post did I make a blanket statement that ALL southern baptist churches are like that?

I did not. I simply said I saw it.

Do you wingnut clowns ever stop twisting peoples words?

RB,

What can I say. Not a day goes by that you don’t prove yourself to be a brainwashed idiot.

Were you at every sermon that Obama attended? Didn’t think so.

Have you seen a video of every sermon Obama attended? Didn’t think so.

So STFU until you have all the facts.

Oh, I forgot. You don’t use facts in your daily ramblings.

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

I too am an Episcopalian (Southern Baptist mother, agnostic father) and my Southern Baptist preacher, when I was growing up, said those exact same words (that all who were not Baptists were going to hell) on a weekly basis. He also told me that I was going to hell quiet frequently because I had a lot of questions he didn’t like.

I have a cousin who is an extreme evangelical - whose son commented upon the death of Pope John Paul the whatever - the most recent pope - that he would pray for him because he knew he was now in hell because he wasn’t a Baptist.

Yes, it does happen, and yes, some do believe that. Trust me.

Paul,

I agree with you @ 11:44.
I think Obama has dealt with this situation as best he can. It’s a damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

I’m out for a while too. Later.

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

mm,

Yes, good point - some, but not all, SBs believe that.

Later again.

By mm

April 30, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Bush, the budget buster

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

mm - stop trying to defend the indefensable. Your implication was clear - all Southern Baptists are like that. That would be like me claiming that all liberals want to abolish all churches because I heard one say it once. In fact, that statement would come closer to being the truth than the one that you just made.

Also, one could paint all members of the United Church of Christ with a broad brush of liberal anti-Americanism if one just listened to the sermons of the most Wrong Rev. Wright. However, most members of the UCC are quite tolerant, if not a bit kooky in their left-wing politics. They are, after all, the linear descendents of the Puritans of Pilgrim fame.

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

mm - one of the great disappointments that conservatives have had with Bush and the Congressional Republicans has been the overspending on domestic projects over the last seven years. the Republican congresses under Clinton were penny-pinchers. However, with the spending record of the current Democrat Congress, any criticism of the Republicans is just throwing stones in a glass house.

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

This is the latest headline:

Despite housing, credit woes, GDP actually grew Shrugging off doom-and-gloom predictions, U.S. economy manages to expand 0.6 percent in the first quarter

By @@

April 30, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Satellite Base Damaged in Anti-US Protest

LIBERAL PARANOIA - THE GIANT EYEBALLS ARE WATCHING YOU….

(((Ferguson dismissed as an urban myth claims that the radomes, known colloquially as “golf balls,” are designed to hide the direction in which the antennae are pointing. They serve to protect the antennae from exposure to the elements.)))

(((Groups that have been protesting against the site for years claim it is part of a global eavesdropping network providing intelligence to the U.S. National Security Agency, and involving listening stations in Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.)))

(((The anti-war campaigners believe that the base has provided information that has helped U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.)))

(((Clark’s Labor government opposed the war against Iraq, but sent Special Air Service (SAS) troops to Afghanistan to help in the U.S.-led campaign against the Taliban and al-Qaeda after 9/11.)))

If they believed that the system has aided military efforts, why would they put their own troops at risk by destroying it?

(((“This war will have no end until citizens of the world refuse to let it continue,” it said.)))

I wonder if the radical extremists are on board with that message?

Anti-war activists are weird little people.

Golf balls with pupils.

By mm

April 30, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Ben Stein swiftboats science

By RW-(the original)

April 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

During the April 16 debate between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, moderator George Stephanopoulos brought up “a gentleman named William Ayers,” who “was part of the Weather Underground in the 1970s. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, and other buildings. He’s never apologized for that.” Stephanopoulos then asked Obama to explain his relationship with Ayers. Obama’s answer: “The notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.” Obama was indeed only eight in early 1970. I was only nine then, the year Ayers’s Weathermen tried to murder me.

{{{{{Though never a supporter of Obama, I admired him for a time for his ability to engage our imaginations, and especially for his ability to inspire the young once again to embrace the political system. Yet his myopia in the last few months has cast a new light on his “politics of change.” Nobody should hold the junior senator from Illinois responsible for his friends’ and supporters’ violent terrorist acts. But it is fair to hold him responsible for a startling lack of judgment in his choice of mentors, associates, and friends, and for showing a callous disregard for the lives they damaged and the hatred they have demonstrated for this country. It is fair, too, to ask what those choices say about Obama’s own beliefs, his philosophy, and the direction he would take our nation.}}}}}

{{{{{At the conclusion of his 2001 Times interview, Ayers said of his upbringing and subsequent radicalization: “I was a child of privilege and I woke up to a world on fire.”}}}}}

{{{{{Funny thing, Bill: one night, so did I.}}}}}

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

mm- you could not have actually seen the documentary. It was one of the fairest that I have ever seen. He interviewed only the top Darwinists, including the rabid atheist Dawkins, plus many other promenent ‘conventional scientists. His main argument had to do with academic freedom and freedom of speech, not Darwinism per-se, although that was the focus of those whose rights were being violated.

Please watch before you start claiming ‘swiftboating’. Again, you show yourself to be terribly narrow-minded and prejudiced.

By AmVet

April 30, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

mm,

Great link to Ben “Anyone? Bueller?” Strein’s new movie.

To me, he is and always has been an interesting guy.

But what a mixed (up?) bag!

And this endeavor looks particularly off the wall, if not plain ignorant.

One of the best quotes in your link:

“If you have a losing hand, you’re going to use every amount of rhetoric you can to distract people from the fact that you don’t have any facts,” Sean B. Carroll, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, told me in his lab last week. “And that’s what ‘Expelled’ is all about.”

The very position the flat earth society finds itself in as they desperately rely on that tactic…

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

mm - by the way I just reread the article in you link and it is truly a case of ‘swiftboating’ the truth. That article is quite one-sided and prejudiced and when you get into the body of the article there are all sorts of contradictions. Evolution is, after all, a theory, which by implication means that it has not been ‘proven’. Gravity is a law. It has been proven.

Also, Darwin spent years breeding pigeons into every conceivable variety, with a plethora of characteristics and instincts. In the end, not one mutation. No new species was produced. In other words, he spent decades disproving some of his basic hypothoses.

I am not saying that the Earth is only 6,000 years old and was created in 6 days. That is fallacious. I am saying that the universe and the Earth are just too well balanced and too orderly just to have ‘poof’ happened. There had to be a plan, an intelligent design. That is the point of Expelled as far as the science goes. However, the larger point of the film has to do with academic freedom and freedom of speech and old-fashioned censorship; censorship of the nature which was practiced by the Nazis and the Stalinists, by the way.

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

{{{{By bon scott April 30, 2008 10:39 AM No, I’d say you’re the sicko. The photos of “Hannah Montana” don’t show any “naughty parts”.}}}}

Yes, bonnie, I understand, everything in this world is just a piece of meat for you to lust over while you’re choking your chicken, who am I too show disdain at you liberals and your kiddie porn, my bad, geez.

{{{{Why, just this week, you’ve slandered the Roman Catholic Church with the pedophile label. Now you slander mainstream Protestant faiths for hating America. Hint: very few do. Hate is soooo un-Christian.}}}}

So where do I begin unpacking all of this nonsense.

Finch: Check me if I’m wrong but you liberals have been slandering the Catholic church for decades even though it was mostly made up of……liberals.

You know this leads directly to a larger issue, you are aware that you belong to a political party that the vast majority of members believe that religion is “the opiate of the masses” and views people like you, assuming that you are not just patronizing me, as an idiot that believes in the tooth fairy, right?

And as far as the minority of your political party, it seems to me that they claim belief in the Almighty as a convenience or a platform from which they can launch hysterical attacks on the groups of people, from the same country they live in, that they do not like.

Been paying much attention to reverend Wright?

And how easy it was to blame us for “taking it out of context,” but now that Jeremiah is “unplugged,” it turns out we were right in the first place?

That’s why they call us the “right,” cause we are always right.

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

AmVet - go watch the film. Your mind might even be changed. That little quote by Carroll could be applied to himself before it could ever be applied to Ben Stein!

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Listen to this feeble minded idiot:

{{{{Democrats quickly dismissed the president’s remarks. “Only President Bush could be surprised to learn that gas was approaching $4 a gallon and then claim the White House is concerned about high gas prices,” said Senate Majority Leader Hairy Reed (Dimwit-Nev.). “President Bush’s Rose Garden rhetoric will not lower gas prices for Americans struggling in a weakening economy. He must work with Democrats in Congress to invest in renewable energy and lessen our dependence on oil.”}}}}

This mouth breathing moron spews pure rhetoric accusing Bushie of rhetoric when Bushie is the only one offering any solutions.

“Lessen our dependence on oil,” spews the dimwit, how are you going to do that, sukas-s, kill everybody?

Freak.

By RB from Gwinnett

April 30, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

By mm 12:18 PM

You’re right, mm, I haven’t sat through any of Wright’s sermons and I don’t know what Obama heard and didn’t hear. I’ve also never been to a Klan meeting, but I have a pretty good idea what they’re about. Based on what I have heard from Rev. Wright, I think I have a pretty good idea what he’s about too. But you just keep acting like the good Reverend was a fine patriotic white loving saint for the last 20 years and only last week did a 180 on us, you mindless little sheep. Even you aren’t that stupid.

Bosch, I’ve noticed you tend to avoid things that might challenge your belief system vs. facing the fact you could be completely wrong. You just keep your head in the sand and Uncle Obami will make it all better….

By Copyleft

April 30, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

I appreciate Ben Stein’s standing up for freedom! Why should we limit science classes to “actual science,” after all? There are so many more, entertaining opinions that could be taught in that valuable learning time!

Evolution, of course, IS an observed fact. The theory of natural selection explains how it operates. And saying “But it’s just too COOL to be accidental!” is neither a valid theory, nor an intelligent critique of the reigning one.

I especially liked the parts where Stein compared scientific standards of evidence to Nazi death camps. And him, a Jew! Funny, funny stuff.

By mm

April 30, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Devil at 12:38,

As you’ve been told time and time again. Don’t try to tell me what I’m thinking. You have enough trouble keeping up with your own deluded thoughts.

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

copyleft - unless you are really old, then you made one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. Evolution is NOT an observed fact. It is a theory which is bolstered by some fossil evidence, but certainly no one has observed it occur. Read my little blurb about Darwin’s pigeons!

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

mm - then stop making statements which can only lead people to certain conclusions. I am hardly deluded. I think your delusions are probably enough for this whole blog.

By AmVet

April 30, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Devil,

I would go see the movie. No problemo. It is probably fairly entertaining.

And I am open to the possibility I would learn something new. Perhaps even relevant.

And unlike some here, I am not threatened by opinions, evidence, etc. contrary to my own non-immutable beliefs.

I don’t have the freaking answers!

And neither do you.

But the scientific method is completely impartial. It does care if you are conservative, liberal, religious, atheistic, black, white or green. Until something BETTER comes along to explain the workings of life on this planet, all the teeth gnashing about natural selection and the fundamental basis of modern biology that is Darwin, is just that.

And the uncomfortable FACT remains that the Christians have had to be dragged kicking and screaming (and worse) into the modern scientific age. There are many, many, many instances of this.

Their track record in these matters is beyond horrible. It is one of brutal suppression of any new ideas or information contrary to their dogma and teachings.

Again that is an undeniable fact.

So for them to now pretend they are the victim in this regard is quite transparent. And ludicrous.

As is this new “argument” that teaching ID/creationism/Garden of Eden in science classrooms is a “freedom of speech’ issue.

Utter nonsense. And a losing hand.

BTW, I fully support teaching the Bible, Koran, etc. - at the college level, as an elective and as part of a literature/history/religion curriculum.

But understand well, the days are LONG gone when a few misguided but extremely powerful people will be able to insert it at every opportunity and every level of society, whether in children’s science classrooms or in the halls of government.

So forgive me if I find little comfort in your assessment that this is one of the fairest documentaries you have ever seen…

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April 30, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

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By Copyleft

April 30, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

The Devil You Read; Sorry, it IS an observed fact. Do you know what “evolution” is?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconceptions.html#proof

The “theory”—that is the best available explanation that fits the evidence (something ID creationists have never even TRIED to do)—is called “natural selection.” It explains the mechanisms of the Observed FACT of Evolution.

Not up for debate, I’m afraid; scientists who know what they’re talking about have already made the determination.

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

RB,

I avoid things that are absurd; I openly seek things to broaden my perspectives.

Here’s a few things I’ve noticed about you:

I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but your posts 9.9 times out of 10 are completely obnoxious and repugnant, and are based entirely on stereotypical perceptions you have.

Even when those you disagree with regularly tell you they believe one thing or another that is something you agree with (as noted from previous posts), you completely ignore it, and carry on with your rantings of hate for all things you deem liberal or Democrat, very much like the Rev. Wright you are condemning today.

I guess you don’t notice that I’m one of the very few who regularly even addresses any of your posts; even the wingnuts ignore you.

I’m the only moonbat who tries to address you with any respect at all, which, to be honest, you really don’t deserve.

By Devastator

April 30, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

Rev. Wright’s betrayal: a lesson to Obama supporters

Rev. Wright may be correct about his assertions, and I do agree with a lot of what he says. The US is guilty of a number of atrocities around the world, manipulating world events to its own gain, placing dictators (Pinochet, Suharto) to “combat” communism, but who ended up oppressing its own people. The US is the only country in the World to have used nuclear bombs - after the War being practically over. Japanese people in Nagasaki and Hiroshima are still born with genetic disorders.

But nevertheless, Rev. Wright betrayed Obama.

There is no way you can justify what Rev. Wright has done, if not revenge and pettiness. Obama wants to build bridges between generations: to understand the imperfections of the previous generation without denouncing and rejecting it - but to accept it as a consequence of the times each generation has lived. Furthermore, he is capable (like most of us) to filter the good from the bad, specially from a family member. My father always told me that helping the poor and those who are in need is a virtue - but at the same time, he believed that homosexuality was a disease, and once he said something borderline racist about blacks. Obama didn’t have a father when growing up, but found a pastor who became his mentor.

Rev. Wright’s language is crude, unpolished and offensive at times. He knows that, and he knows that his words will be associated to Obama at a critical time. And to make things worse, he hired Nation of Islam’s security. I am sorry, but Rev. Wright is a total douchebag. But he teaches us a lesson.

That our individual principles are less important than getting Obama elected as President. Because as much disagreements we might have with Obama, the alternative - McCain - is much worse. It is not about making Fox News legitimate, but to exploit Fox News to disseminate the message. A lot of potential Obama supporters are not from the Left, but moderates, independents and those who watch Fox News - so grow up. Obama didn’t sell out Kos, or his liberal principles. He cannot be 100% in tune with the Left, his message needs to be packaged for moderate audiences.

Rev. Wright thinks his message, his ego and his principles are more important than Obama and everything that his candidacy represents: a complete reversal of the last 7 years. Will we do the same?

By Paul

April 30, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

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I know technically, you’ve stopped speaking to me (AmVet, too)

but: “If they believed that the system has aided military efforts, why would they put their own troops at risk by destroying it?”

It has to do with “Niceness.” If we’re nice to them, they’re nice to us.” Also had do do with “Naughtiness.” Their politicians and soldiers are being naughty by doing what they do. Since the protestors know better, they’re going to remove the means of naughtiness, so the soldiers and politicians have to behave. And that makes the protestors “wise” and “good.”

RW-(the original) 1:02

Haven’t gone back and checked, but if my memory is correct, part of Obama’s association with Ayres was on a board appointed by Daley. The same Daley who prosecuted Ayers’ wife for her crimes. The same boardon which Obama associated with bankers and industry leaders. Then he did attend a meeting at Ayres’ home - Ayres, an influential guy in Chicago lib politics.

Havta be careful where all this leads. Rather like prosecutors saying, heck yes our snitch is a lowlife, drugdealing former felon. But he has the contacts. You want the inside info, you ain’t gonna talk to choir boys.

By Devastator

April 30, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

PLEASE IGNORE THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF MY PREVIOUS POST @2:10. IT IS A REPRINT THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THE DEVASTATOR’S VIEWS!!!

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

AmVet - I NEVER claimed to have all the answers. I am not a liberal. I believe that there are certain questions which we, as mortal men, cannot answer. The problem with atheistic scientists like Dr. Dawkins is that they say that they do have all of the answers, or at least that science all answers are attainble through science. The arrogance of that is what really gets to me. The beginning of wisdom is admitting that you don’t have all of the answers. You might just be on the road to attaining wisdom.

copyleft - again you are wrong. Speciation is not evolution. Darwin observed SPECIATION. I also am not discounting evolution. I am discounting RANDOM creation and RANDOM evolution. There is NO evidence that it is random. The ID folks have that right. You are embarrassing yourself.

By RB from Gwinnett

April 30, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 2:08 PM

Blah, blah, blah. I got all that Bosch. But I still didn’t get an answer to the question.

Would you support a candidate who attended Klan meetings for 20 years and then claimed he didn’t know there were hateful things said there and disagreed with the grand wizard, but went anyway…for 20 years?

By Devastator

April 30, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Paul,

He’s also the same Ayres whose co-defendant’s were aquitted by slick Willie.

By AmVet

April 30, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Quote of the day:

“Losership, not Leadership.”

— German Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel’s response to the global warming plan put forth by President Bush last week.

We know Herr Gabriel. Boy howdie, do we know…

By RB from Gwinnett

April 30, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 2:08 PM

Blah, blah, blah. I got all that Bosch. But I still didn’t get an answer to the question.

Would you support a candidate who attended Klan meetings for 20 years and then claimed he didn’t know there were hateful things said there and disagreed with the grand wizard, but went anyway…for 20 years?

By RW-(the original)

April 30, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Paul,

That story at 1:02 brings a real life perspective from a kid that Ayers’ group tried to murder. Once again it calls Obama’s judgment into question and his judgment is the only thing he is offering.

However, Obama and the Left want to demand an end to the probing of the years-long Obama-Ayers association as irrelevant. Never mind that Ayers has openly bragged of bombing the Pentagon. Never mind that Obama and Ayers voted to give $75,000 to Rashid Khalidi, a Yasser Arafat protege in the PLO, during their tenure with the Woods Foundation. The difference apparently is in the target of one’s hatreds; as long as the hatred was directed at the American government, the Left believes it to be irrelevant.

The Woods Foundation also made very large grants to anti-gun groups while Ayers and Obama served together.

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Oh where oh where is getalife -

Poll: Wright’s ‘Rants’ Hurt Obama, Clinton Still Ahead FOX News Poll: Nearly half of Dems think Clinton’s better pick to beat McCain; Obama favorable rating dips 7 percent

By mm

April 30, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Devil,

{{{Evolution is a theory.}}}

Creationism isn’t even a theory.

{{{then stop making statements which can only lead people to certain conclusions. }}}

I think 78% of our population can think for themselves.

RB,

{{{But you just keep acting like the good Reverend was a fine patriotic white loving saint for the last 20 years and only last week did a 180 on us, you mindless little sheep. Even you aren’t that stupid.}}}

I’m not defending that idiot. I’m just saying nobody outside of his church knows what went on there for 20 years.

I’ve heard Bush make one or two smart statements in 7 years, but that doesn’t make me think he is a genius.

Find something more important to whine about.

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

My 2:23 has some really mangled syntax. I got distracted and it came out wrong. I should hire a proof reader!

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

mm - I am sorry that you know what I am thinking. I very clearly stated that I am NOT a creationist. I even called it fallacious. I do believe the intelligent disign theory, but there is a huge difference in intelligent design and creationism. Many of the die hard creationists hate the ID people as much or more than they hate the Darwinists. However, Darwin’s theories have holes that geneticists can drive trucks through, and honest ones will admit it readily. Go see the film. YOu might just learn something.

By Paul

April 30, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

What I find really amazing in all this is,

how’d the guy get hired by a university?

Let alone get tenure?

Wonder what’s happened to Chicago’s alumni donations since this broke. Like the Ward Churchill/U Colorado/Boulder thing.

By Devastator

April 30, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Devil,

You might want to try a more objective poll. You know, one without an agenda targeting specific areas!

By Fly_on_the_Wall

April 30, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Devil, you said earlier ” I am saying that the universe and the Earth are just too well balanced and too orderly just to have ‘poof’ happened. There had to be a plan, an intelligent design.” I think if you take with some chaos theory people or other scientists you’ll see that things are not as ‘orderly’ as you believe. This notion of orderly comes from 17th & 18th century beliefs. You’re speaking of Newtonian physics and that no longer applies.

By Copyleft

April 30, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

The Devil You Read: Speciation most certainly IS evolution, silly boy. Do some reading! The only one being embarrassed by his ignorance would be you—if you knew enough to recognize it.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

By mm

April 30, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Devil,

Please explain the difference between creationism and intelligent design. Inquiring minds want to know.

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

RB,

Again obnoxious and repugnant, but this time also rhetorical, but what the hell, I’ll try.

No, I wouldn’t support a political candidate who had regularly attended KKK meetings for 20 years, and then claimed he/she didn’t know there were hateful things being said.

But I do currently support Obama. What’s your point?

We get it RB, you don’t like Obama, or anyone who puts a (D) after their name.

How did you phrase it earlier? Oh yeah, “blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.”

Not trying to compare Obama to Jesus here, but if Jesus Christ himself came down to Earth and ran as a Democrat, you’d find something wrong with him and find something to hate him for.

Now, while we are asking questions, guess which political party I USED to be a member of?

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Devastator April 30, 2008 2:18 PM PLEASE IGNORE THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF MY PREVIOUS POST @2:10. IT IS A REPRINT THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THE DEVASTATOR’S VIEWS!!!}}}}

Dimastator: I’m pretty sure that no one has ever read your voluminous kampaign propaganda, at least until you asked us not to:

{{{{Rev. Wright may be correct about his assertions, and I do agree with a lot of what he says. The US is guilty of a number of atrocities around the world, manipulating world events to its own gain, placing dictators (Pinochet, Suharto) to “combat” communism, but who ended up oppressing its own people. The US is the only country in the World to have used nuclear bombs - after the War being practically over. Japanese people in Nagasaki and Hiroshima are still born with genetic disorders.}}}}

Ahh, yes, kandy as-s liberalism at it’s finest, we should have plunged headlong into the Japanese mainland, which would have killed millions upon millions of Japanese civilians and hundreds of thousands of American soldiers, instead of blowing up 100,000 people.

Or are you sissies suggesting that we should have surrendered?

Anti American weirdos.

By AmVet

April 30, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Devil,

Though impassioned, that response makes little sense.

The scientific method does NOT begin to posit that it has “all of the answers”.

The exact opposite is true!

Given SUPERIOR alternatives it will change as quickly as a weather vane.

It is dynamic, not static like your religion, which already has all of the answers. At least the BIG ones anyway!

It is ever changing and flexible. This is the beauty of scientific discovery.

And why you are so scared of it.

Or at least why you spout that tripe about there being things men cannot know or learn. Boy, do you hope so.

But to your dismay, it just ain’t gonna play out that way.

Honestly, I doubt you really care about whether Darwin was right or wrong, or to what degree. I believe that as science is such a direct threat to Christianity, your motives are to see that it is discredited.

So my question to you is, “If you feel that evolution is essentially inaccurate, where is your superior explanation?”

When your mythical hell freezes over, Devil, I suppose I will get an answer.

Gotta run - off to help pay for the occupation.

But I’ll be baaaack!!!

By Paul

April 30, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Bosch 2:44

“if Jesus Christ himself came down to Earth and ran as a Democrat, you’d find something wrong with him and find something to hate him for.”

Yowza! Historical parallels to our current political practices! Already happened. Jesus challenged the political and religious establishment. The Establishment (Pharisees) said:

“Hey, everybody! Look who this Jesus guy hangs out with. Prostitutes! Street people! Samaritans! One of his chosen followers is a tax collector! Besides that, he drinks a heckuva lot of wine and he’s a glutton!”

Same old, same old.

By mm

April 30, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

Has anybody ever thought about why Bush was going to let the Hubble telescope go dead and fall out of the sky?

Could it be that the new “eyes” to be placed into Hubble would be able to peer into space almost back to the beginning (14 billion years ago)?

Would that ruffle a few neocon feathers if some of the Bible was disputed?

I’m just glad enough scientists around the world put up enough of a fight to have the Hubble saved for a few more years until it’s replacement is ready.

By Paul

April 30, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

AmVet

From your ealier post about the tax scofflaw running for Congress, Al “Franken.

First source I saw (Briebart) had about the same scarce outline you had. This CBS story is clearer:

Link: [Al Franken - I really really like paying taxes]*(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/30/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4057466.shtml)

indicates he will pay back taxes of 70k, owes 17 states

but it’s his accountant’s fault.

Just what we need - another aspiring politician who know how to take responsibility!

The story I like came from the Financial Times - it’s brief so I’ll quote it here:

Gore investment body closes $683m fund

By Fiona Harvey in London

Published: April 29 2008 19:55 | Last updated: April 29 2008 19:55

The investment vehicle headed by Al Gore has closed a new $683m fund to invest in early-stage environmental companies and has mounted a robust defence of green investing.

The Climate Solutions Fund will be one of the biggest in the growing market for investment funds with an environmental slant.”

This is so over the top. Has it all. Start a movement. Highlight a need. State the only acceptable solution. State the debate’s over.

Then head up a nearly three quarters of a billion investment fund to invest in your solutions.

No wonder he’s not interested in running for Pres again.

Dang I miss IThN - I’ll bet that story’s all over Moveon and ThinkProgress and CrooksandLiars. I’m ready for Olbermann’s scathing commentary, too!

By Paul

April 30, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Amvet

The CBS story link, without the asterisk and with a closing parentheses

Link: Al Franken

By Likkkoduh is Bush's Burka Boy

April 30, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

and butt boy too! ;->~~

Actually, I have pictures of nekkid Marines hanging over my bed. A chickenhawk myself, I do so love a military man in uniform, especially when he takes it off! Heck any man, any uniform…

Those and some naked altar boy pix I got from my minister. Made me want to become a ‘man of the cloth’. I like the long dress/robe thing (being 150 lbs overweight, it’s a good look for me), so heck, why not?

Kisses,

Andiduh

By @@

April 30, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Yes Paul @ 2:12, that makes perfectly good sense if one is looking at the world through golf balls instead of eyeballs. Delusional divots occur behind the ball eyed…

and it’s RW to whom I am not speaking (of course he’ll be wanting to engage me now since I’ve revealed my vast knowledge of golf and anti-war nutjobs) but I shall not!

HOW’S IT GOIN’ ARE DOUBLE U (TO)?

I know it’s all about the elections for everyone else here. I’m NOT voting for Obama since he has proven to be what I suspected all along, and at the risk of shocking my fellow conservatives here, I shall reveal FOR GETALIFE only, that I cast my vote for Hillary in the primary. I truly did want to assure two EXPERIENCED candidates from which everyone could choose. Don’t get excited Getalife, I had no intention of voting for Hillary in the general, but I wanted you to and the other Democrats to be able.

There…..I said it and have no regrets.

Now I’m trying to piece together the last piece in a puzzle involving Egypt/Israel and Palestinian peace. I’m having trouble accessing an “American Thinker” piece. It’s critical in my analysis to what may be going on.

I’m also reading a discussion between Jeffrey Goldberg and an Israeli citizen. It seems Goldberg thinks that the only salvation for the Jews is to come to America. Based on what I’ve seen coming out of Louis Farrakhan, the good (cough) Reverend Wright, and many liberals here, that doesn’t sound like a good idea.

I’m off to pursue an “American Thinker”.

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Paul,

And he must be a freaking hippy with the long hair and sandals! I’ll even bet he eats granola and even likes it.

:-)

I figure if RB is going to deal in the rhetorical world, then I may as well too. It seems its the only way he sees things.

By The Devil You say

April 30, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

mm - you are nuts. Leftist conspiracy theories are as much fun as the kooky right wing ones. You don’t really believe that crap about the Hubbel telescope, do you?

AmVet - You are a great one for putting thoughts in others’ heads that were never there. Science is fluid, just as is theology. I agree. But many ATHEISTIC scientists really do believe that through research and scientific pondering that all of the answers are attainable. That is the point of the scientific method, a method which, by the way, works well. But some things cannot be proven. That life just ‘poof’ happened cannot be proven any more than Pi can be calculated to a whole number.

Speciation is NOT evolution, at least not as you are defining it. In the end, all of the tortoises in the Gallapagos Islands can still mate with each other. They changed and specialized, like Darwin’s pigeons, but genetically, like a Pomeranian and a Great Dane, are still the same thing, dogs.

By @@

April 30, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Good grief! TAKE OUT A “TO”TU.

Now for my pirouette into the internet.

Ta ta to tu.

By mm

April 30, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Devil,

Here’s the real story concerning your 12:57 post about the economy.

U.S. economy grows 0.6% in first quarter

By Bosch

April 30, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

“But many ATHEISTIC scientists really do believe that through research and scientific pondering that all of the answers are attainable”

How is that any different than your belief that a Jewish carpenter who preached a message of God’s love and grace is for all of mankind, and not just the Jews, got cruxified, rose from the dead, drifted off into heaven and will someday come again to judge the living and the dead - also has all the answers?

By mm

April 30, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Devil at 3:29,

No I don’t believe it. I was just asking if anyone else had ever had that thought.

If Bush has had talks with God about the Iraq war then you never know :)

By Andy's Mom

April 30, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

Likkkoduh is Bush’s Burka Boy,

You are a mean and vile person. Goodness gracious, your filthy mouth should be washed with soap. What gives you the right to make up such lies about my Andy? He has no naked pictures on his bedroom walls whatsoever. I would never allow such a thing. By telling these lies you insinuate that I’m a bad mother and it just brings tears to my eyes. I do the best I can.

For the record the only thing my Andy, aka AJC Man has on his walls are posters of Bobby Sherman, Shawn Cassidy and Brian Boitano!!!!! I assure you they are ALL fully clothed!!!

Furthermore I have contacted the ajc.com to let them know that I intend to sue them for defamation of character. I will NOT put up with this nonsense and will come after you too!!

There is nothing nasty about a double-axle, shame on you!!!!!!!!!

By Ralph

April 30, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Poor Devil: Have you nothing more positive to do than waste your/our days by ejaculating on this site??

By Paul

April 30, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

As long as we’re discussing judgment:

“Hillary Clinton loves to tell the story about how the Chinese government bought a good American company in Indiana, laid off all its workers and moved its critical defense technology work to China.

It’s a story with a dramatic, political ending. Republican President George W. Bush could have stopped it, but he didn’t.

If she were president, Clinton says, she’d fight to protect those jobs. It’s just the kind of talk that’s helping her win support from working-class Democrats worried about their jobs and paychecks, not to mention their country’s security.

What Clinton never includes in the oft-repeated tale is the role that prominent Democrats played in selling the company and its technology to the Chinese. She never mentions that big-time Democratic contributor George Soros helped put together the deal to sell the company or that the sale was approved by her husband’s administration.”

Full article here:

Link: Pres Clinton, Soros and the Chinese

Is Hillary responsible for actions put forth by her husband’s administration? No. But she oughta find a better story. Or tell the whole story with a “just another example of how I’ll follow my own mind” twist.

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

Oh my, it looks like the trolls are angry with me again, what shall I ever do?

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{{{{Even when Clinton attacks McCain, President Bush or GOP policies, the response is either outright silence or snarky, dismissive ridicule about a failed campaign barely relevant enough to merit a response.}}}}

{{{{“With ads like that, it’s more likely the call at 3 a.m. is ‘Bruno, you just lost another superdelegate,’” quipped McCain adviser Steve Schmidt earlier this month when KKKlinton aired a version of her “3 a.m.” ad attacking McCain on the economy.}}}}

Do you klanners really believe you stand a chance in the dimokrat party running against a man that hates America as much as the rest of the moonbats do?

He’s got it locked up.

By Andy's Mom

April 30, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

””“Oh my, it looks like the trolls are angry with me again, what shall I ever do?”“”

Thats my Andy! You show ‘em hon. I’ll tell you what, I’ll make you a fresh pot of Franks and Beans and you can spend the rest of the night finding things to post at 8 am tomorrow! That will teach them!!

We are going to make you relevant again on this blog! We are going to make sure people start reading your posts again!!! Thats my boy!

Warning to the world: THIS BLOG IS AJCM’s life and he won’t be pushed out of here! And guess what? This is my Andy’s 100th day without a break down! Take that ‘Likkkoduh is Bush’s Burka Boy’

(Please read Andy’s work in the morning, it will mean so much to me.)

By AmVet

April 30, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

{{{Science is fluid, just as is theology. I agree.}}}

Rubbish.

And agree with me on what? I asserted science is dynamic and religion is NOT. How you missed that is anyone’s guess.

{{{But many ATHEISTIC scientists really do believe that through research and scientific pondering that all of the answers are attainable.}}}

Even IF so, it is totally IRRELEVANT. And a silly red herring.

You seem hung up on “these” scientists and your allegations regarding them. And so use it to discount an enormous field of almost universally accepted and verified study.

{{{That is the point of the scientific method, a method which, by the way, works well. But some things cannot be proven.}}}

YET. But we are always getting closer and closer and closer. And that scares MANY of you faithful. Science has in fact indisputably proven many things that were once unknown and apparently to the Christians “unknowable” and “unprovable” - such as the Sun, not the earth, being at the center of our solar system.

{{{That life just ‘poof’ happened cannot be proven any more than Pi can be calculated to a whole number.}}}

Another absolutely ridiculous analogy.

It has been proven that Pi is not a whole number.

From my original post on this matter: “If you have a losing hand, you’re going to use every amount of rhetoric you can to distract people from the fact that you don’t have any facts,”

Again, Devil, where are your facts concerning this euphemisticallynamed Intelligent Design? Where is the data? The evidence? ANYTHING to support it at all?

And stating the obvious such as the theory is not yet 100% accurate or has this, that or the other problem or that there are holes in the fossil record does NOTHING to cast much real doubt on it’s overall scientific soundness and validity.

At least not in the world of biologists and geneticists and the people who know the most about it.

Just as with man-induced global warming and vaious other subjects you wish beyond wish would just go away.

But, there are now so many ethical, moral, intelligent people who care about this world and not some grand illusion of paradise in the next, it won’t…

By Satchmo

April 30, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

“How is that any different”, Bosch?

If you don’ know, I can’t tell you.

By @@

April 30, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

Dang, it’s an Imam with his head screwed on. Goin’ against the Brotherhood.

Sheikh Yusuf al-Badr, a prominent Egyptian imam, has issued a fatwa forbidding Muslims from taking part in a general strike protesting rising food prices. The strike, organized by the Muslim Brotherhood, is slated for May 4 to coincide with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak’s 80th birthday. Al-Badr told Arab television network Al Arabiya that he opposes the protest and that anyone who stops work is not thinking of the country’s best interests. He added that striking “is a perversion imported from abroad.”

The Muslim Brotherhood sounds like the Democrats in Congress. Could they be the perversion about which he speaks?

By RW-(the original)

April 30, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

Well hi there @@! I’m doing great, you?

Does it seem like we talk more since you quit speaking to me? (ISH)

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GENEVA (AP) - Albert Hofmann, the father of the mind-altering drug LSD whose medical discovery inspired—and arguably corrupted—millions in the 1960s hippie generation, has died. He was 102.

Maybe it was really a longevity drug. Let’s hope all these miserable aging hippies around here don’t all get to 102. J/K If you want to be miserable for ten decades who am I to stop you.

By @@

April 30, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

Egypt’s main opposition group the Muslim Brotherhood has decided to eliminate from its political program the stipulation that Egypt’s legislative and executive branches be supervised by an elected religious committee.

Hmmmmmmm…..just when I thought

hmmmmmmm?

By RW-(the original)

April 30, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

Paul 2:36,

The university probably put Ayers past on the positive side of the ledger.

By @@

April 30, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

Thpppbbt! she said with a toss of her head.

I’m actually a golf pro, just never told HIM so.

Fooooooooore!

By @@

April 30, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

or

Fourrrrrrrrrr!

By @@

April 30, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

or

4!

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Oh my, the trolls don’t read me, but yet, somehow, they know everything I say! They must have PMS, er, uh, I mean an STD, no, it’s ESP, that’s it.

Or is it an STD?

Whatever.

~~~~~

Senator Gasbag (dimokrat:) Why, Senator Dic-khead, did you hear what Obambi’s preacher said yesterday?

Senator Dic-khead (dimokrat:) I sure did, I had no idea that Obambi hated America as much as we do, I’m seeing that young man in a whole new light.

Senator Gasbag: Yes, I’m voting for him too.

{{{{MAJORITY OF HOUSE AND SENATE PRIVATELY BACK OBAMA…}}}}

It was all the party of hate America needed to know, was Obambi one of them or not?

He’s got it locked up.

By @@

April 30, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Thank goodness! Stratfor is chock-full-o-tidbits! Some you guys may already know, but I’m good to go…

Kuwaiti Oil Minister Mohammad al-Olaim said that OPEC might call a special meeting before a scheduled meeting in September to address the issue of skyrocketing oil prices, Agence France-Presse reported April 30. The price of oil recently rose to almost $120 a barrel.

Please remember, May 1 is National Prayer Day.

U.S. Marines who arrived in Afghanistan in March to reinforce NATO forces captured the town of Garmsir in the country’s southern Helmand province from Taliban militants April 30. Coalition troops had attacked the town several times but had been unable to take control of it

Please remember that EVERYDAY is a good time to pray for our coalition forces.

Oil prices dropped to $115 per barrel April 30 on news that striking union workers in Nigeria will return to work, media reports said. The strike had shut down almost all of ExxonMobil Corp.’s production in the country, normally about 800,000 barrels per day.

Prayers answered. Ours and….

Five people suspected of being Taliban militants killed themselves April 30 by setting off an explosion in a house in Kabul, Afghanistan where they were surrounded by security forces, citing an unnamed Interior Ministry source.

^^^ theirs. It’s gonna be a big orgy with virgins galore.

By @@

April 30, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

Iraq’s government will use force to disarm the Mehdi Army if the militia does not give up its weapons on its own, citing Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Al-Maliki said the Mehdi Army must disarm, stop interfering in state affairs, shut down its courts and turn over wanted fugitives, or else risk military assault. The government’s goal is to disarm and dissolve the Mehdi Army, the Islamic Army and al Qaeda, al-Maliki added.

Palestinian militant factions have agreed to Egypt’s proposal for a cease-fire to begin in the Gaza Strip and eventually extend to the West Bank, Haaretz reported April 30, citing an unnamed Egyptian official quoted by Egypt’s Middle East News Agency. The official said the proposal outlined a “comprehensive, reciprocal and simultaneous truce” that will be implemented gradually. The news comes as the militant factions — including the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Popular Resistance Committees, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and others — are in Cairo for talks mediated by Egyptian intelligence chief Omar Suleiman.

Now that Palestinian story is where things get murky. Some sites are saying that Egypt has agreed to open its’ borders which would allow weapons smuggling. Other sites say NO.

If there is internal unrest, why would they open their borders to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians? Doesn’t make sense…they’re short on everything. Not enough to go around.

Oh well, I’ll wait.

By AJC Management

April 30, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

{{{{In his speech to the National Press Club on Monday, for example, Wright described America as a country of “segregation, Jim Crow, lynching and the separate-but-equal fantasy.” Then he ran outside to feed more quarters into the meter where his time machine was parked.}}}}

{{{{If it takes Obama 20 years to notice that his pastor is a traitorous, racist nut-job, it will probably take him his full term of office to realize that the U.S. has been invaded and subdued by al-Qaida. Let’s just hope President Obama pays closer attention during national security briefings than he did during 20 years of the Rev. Wright’s church services.}}}}

By RW-(the original)

April 30, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

{{{{YET. But we are always getting closer and closer and closer.}}}}

BS. Paleontologists are getting further and further away from proving evolution as the origin of man or even in finding any species that has become another. Perhaps Blowhard thinks he’s got another Piltdown Man to spring on the ever willing evolutionary biologists. They tend to fall for anything.

By bon scott

April 30, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

By Andee SEDPO (Secret Extreme Democratic Party Operative) - April 30, 2008 1:23 PM - Check me if I’m wrong but you liberals have been slandering the Catholic church for decades even 0though it was mostly made up of……liberals.

Jeez, in 1960 it was the REPUBLICANS who thought JFK was a Vatican puppet. Moran. And in any case, does that make slandering the Roman Catholic Church RIGHT?

You know this leads directly to a larger issue, you are aware that you belong to a political party that the vast majority of members believe that religion is “the opiate of the masses” and views people like you, assuming that you are not just patronizing me, as an idiot that believes in the tooth fairy, right?

Democrats are mostly atheists? You truly live in another dimension. Prove your atheist claim!! You can’t.

Thanks again for the good work, Andee. Your disinformation campaign is truly mind boggling,

By ma713zda

May 6, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

c210t

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