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By AJC Management
April 28, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
You know, I never realized this:
{{{{Hillary’s votes come from the Democrats’ other constituency — blue-collar workers, Catholics, and people without a college education. Catholics rejected Obama by 70 percent. That’s scary. >>>>Catholics have been a core constituency for the Democrats since the days of Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion.<<<<< If they drift over to the Republicans — as they were doing under Ronald Reagan — there’s very little left in the Democrats’ portfolio.}}}}
Catholics are a “core constituency” of the dimokrats?
Can you say “child molesters?”
Oh my, believe me, I’m going to be fact checking that as soon as I get the chance.
~~~~~
{{{{Pastor says he is not divisive, not a politician-Urinal}}}}
That’s^^ easy for you to say:
{{{{“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law, and then wants us to sing God Bless America? No, no, no! Not God bless America. God d* America! It’s in the Bible, for killing innocent people. God d* America for treating its citizens as less than human!”}}}}
Notice how I didn’t attribute that hate speech to the Urinal, that’s because they didn’t include it in their wormy little story.
They don’t want you to be the judge.
~~~~~
{{{{Skirmishing continued in Baghdad militia strongholds despite an appeal Friday by Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr to end the bloodletting that has claimed hundreds of lives since the crackdown began. At least 16 people were killed and 49 injured in clashes since Saturday night in Sadr City, the cleric’s northeastern Baghdad stronghold, according to police and hospital officials in the vast district.-Urinal}}}}
The Urinal and the terrorists call the hundreds of deceased “people” while the U.S. and Iraqi government calls them “terrorists.”
So which side is the Urinal on?
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this
VIENNA (Reuters) - Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and the government of President George W. Bush were to blame for the U.S. financial crisis, Nobel laureate economist Joseph Stiglitz said in a magazine interview.
AND
The Myths and Harsh Effects of Bush’s Economic Class War The recession of 2001 never ended — at least not for ordinary Americans.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this
Millions of dollars of lucrative Iraq reconstruction contracts were never finished because of excessive delays, poor performance or other factors, including failed projects that are being falsely described by the U.S. government as complete, federal investigators say.
OH YOU WONDER WHERE THE MONEY WENT WHEN YOU GOT A BUSH AS PRESIDENT!
AND
McCain frequently used wife’s jet for little cost.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this
The Great Silence: Our Gilded Age and Theirs
By RW ( the original)
April 28, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this
Duhng ID’s childmolesters? He may be right, after all, it takes one to blow one.
bwa
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
[Receiving a lengthy and loud standing ovation, Wright followed in the footsteps of Obama, President Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton in his speech at the event, a $150-a-plate fundraiser billed as the largest sit-down dinner in America.]( http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=908]
AND
You should catch Jeremiah Wright on TV…if you dare …..Many of you who have been so critical of Wright should make a point to watch the interview in order to try and understand the man but I suspect you won’t.
YOU GO REV!!!
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this
LOOK!!!
IT’s talking to itself earlier than usual!
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
Ignore the Corporate Media Spin, McCain is a Weak Candidate…..few noticed that on this same day in Pennsylvania, 27 percent of Republican primary voters didn’t just tell pollsters they would defect from their party’s standard-bearer; they went to the polls, gas prices be damned, to vote against Mr. McCain…..
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
Romney pushes McCain’s endorsed-by-Hamas line.»On Friday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), referring to Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), told conservative bloggers that “it’s very clear who Hamas wants to be the next president of the United States.” Now one of McCain’s top surrogates, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, has picked up on the line of attack, telling the Reno Gazette-Journal that “the recent endorsement by Hamas” was “revealing”:
FUNNY – BIN LADEN SUPPORTS THE BUSH BACKED CANDIDATE - JOHN McSAME
WHY YOU ASK? SIMPLE, McSAME SUPPORTS BUSH POLICY THAT HAS ALLOWED BIN LADEN TO REMAIN FREE ALL THESE YEARS…..
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 334
By Bosch
April 28, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
So when are our “government checks” coming in?
What would really be useful is if you could somehow choose how you want your money sent to you:
A. Sent directly to Georgia Power/Georgia Natural Gas as a credit on your account
B. In the form of a BP/Exxon/Chevron VISA gas card
or
C. Grocery voucher - like a food stamps card
By Paul
April 28, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
IThN 8:15
“That amount is approximately the cost of chartering a similar jet for a month or two” - re. McCain’s corporate jet use.
Chartering means you have use for the entire period. Like leasing a car. Which is why candidates usually reimburse on a per flight basis. Just like Hillary and Obama. Particularly if you’re short of cash.
Maybe ThinkProgress should add an accountant or financial planner to their staff of military advisors?
IThN 8:23
I watched Moyers’s interview with Rev Wright. Also recorded it and played back sections.
I trust you watched it - and aren’t just relying on others’ interpretations?
Same with Chris Wallace’s interview with Sen Obama on Fox News. I trust you watched that, too, and will, as with Rev Wright, share your impressions?
BTW - MoveOn (endorses Obama) and DailyKos (endorses Obama) just a few months ago were pressuring candidates to not appear on Fox.
Got a link handy that says “flip-flop” or “impotent” or “how to measure real political influence”?
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Once Upon a Principle There was a time when John McCain had positions. Then he ran for president, and everything was suddenly up for grabs….But now even his record has become irrelevant, since to become the front runner McCain has jettisoned many of his past positions. The Bush tax cuts: McCain voted against them as a senator, but now says he would make them permanent as president. Immigration: he cosponsored a bill in 2005 to make it easier for those in the country illegally to become citizens, but now says that if his own bill—his own bill!—came to a vote on the Senate floor, he would vote against it. After Columbine, he called for more gun control; after Virginia Tech, he said more gun control was unnecessary.
By Paul
April 28, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
IThN 8:53
Ummmm, bin Laden isn’t part of Hamas…
Such statements are rather in the same league as tying 9-11 to Iraq….
By Bosch
April 28, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
Paul -
Good morning!
Storming the temple? Are they serious?
That last scene when Gaius was talking about the “inner spark” - now the writers are brining in the Gnostic Gospels - do you know if that is LDS too? Not really up on the Mormon thing.
AND Lee was in on that speech too - interesting.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Paul
You spun the point on Cindy McCain’s plane…….McSame is gaming the system….but I guess that’s ok with your type.
Yes, Sir Mr. Paul Sir, listened to the whole thing.
Reverend Wright sets an example for all of us to follow. I am very impressed with not only his knowledge but his WISDOM.
When the controversy was first cooked up, I read and listened to a number of his sermons and researched his backround.
You want to count flip flops from MOve On or Daily KOs? OK, right after we watch Limbaugh and Coulter on the campaign trail for Senator Clinton……
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Paul
Great spin at 9:09… but STOOOOPID.
Fact remains….bin Laden free…. Bush let’s it remain so….McCain supports Bush Middle East Policy….
BIN LADEN “HEARTS” McCAIN
By Paul
April 28, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Bosch
Nope - must be bringing in religious diversity.
By “storming” I take it you mean when Jesus drove the moneychangers out? I had the same thought - great minds and all that.
Going through the earlier seasons it seemed there were a lot of hanging plotlines or “filler.” I’d hoped they wouldn’t do that in the final season but it seems there’s a bit of filler starting. I hope they have the same writers for the final season.
I’ve been wondering about Lee, too. But that final scene with Starbuck? I’ve a friend who wonders if there’s some intentional misdirection going on. Our conversation concluded with not trying to predict events too far in the future.
I just hope they don’t conclude with “bring us together for new solutions, the old ways haven’t worked” and show the future as the Cylon-Human hybrids. That’d just lead to new wars (Dems: “We’re the humans, Reps are Cylons!” Reps: “Nuts to that! You’re the evil Cylons!” Then again, that’s another thing similar to our current campaign season -
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
[If McCain wants to go that route, I can suggest another: that John McCain is probably the favorite candidate of Osama bin Laden, just as George W. Bush was Osama’s presidential preference. Why? Because both Bush and McCain have bought Osama’s disinformation about Iraq being the central front in the war on terrorism. Of course, bin Laden wants the gullible neocons to take the Iraq bait because Afghanistan really is the central front of the war on terrorism—more precisely the Afghan-Pakistani border areas where the real Al Qaeda lives. The war in Iraq has been a grand strategic gift to Osama, keeping the U.S. military tied down elsewhere and off his tail…………………………………………………………. Klein goes on to say that people in the CIA agreed that Osama Bin Laden was rooting for Bush in 2004:
Ron Suskind had a relevant scene in his excellent book The One Percent Doctrine: It’s the Friday before election day in 2004 and Osama bin Laden has issued a videotape in which he lambastes President Bush. The top dawgs at the CIA are gathered to analyze the tape. Dep. Director John McLaughlin says, “I wonder who Osama is voting for?” Everyone cracks up because the answer is so obvious………………………………………………………….. Bin Laden will try to influence the election to help McCain as well. An American president who speaks of 100 years in Iraq is just what the Al Qaeda recruiter ordered.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/26/211654/442/292/504142)
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
McCain: Osama bin Laden and I agree on Iraq
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
CNN, FOX, CBS, ABC, NBC and MSNBC decline PBS’ interview request over the “Military Generals’ scandal
By Paul
April 28, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
IThN
Let’s see, so early in the morning, but congrats on attempting to counter a point - but first sentence had a personal insult. Concluded with excusing MoveOn/Kos bad behavior by citing Limbaugh/Coulter bad behavior.
I will say, though, I think it appropriate to lump MoveOn and Kos and Limbaugh and Coulter into the same heap. They’re much the same in many respects.
ThinkProgress could have made the same point about McCain’s jet trips. I think the intent was to make it “more” (cost is the same as chartering the jet for MONTHS). Always the extreme.
Spin? Saying someone leases a car is different from someone who uses a cab and pays on a per mile basis. You know better -
Your 9:21
What’s the spin? Reps are doing the old “Reps are stronger, enemies want Dems to win” line. In this case, though, it was specifically about Hamas. You introduced bin Laden. Not the Reps. I see it as another false association, just like the 9-11 /Iraq false association. So again, what’s the spin?
Or is it too difficult to say “oops”?
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
ARLINGTON, Va. - The Defense Department has temporarily stopped feeding information to retired military officers pending a review of the issue, said Robert Hastings, principal deputy assistant secretary of Defense for public affairs. The New York Times first reported on Sunday that the Defense Department was giving information to retired officers serving as pundits for various media organizations in order to garner favorable media coverage. Some of these retired officers saw their access to key decision-makers as possible business opportunities for the defense contractors they represent, according to the newspaper. The story also alleged that the officers who did not repeat the Bush administration’s official line were denied further access to information.
By Bosch
April 28, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Paul,
I think there is some intentional misdirection with Starbuck - it’s almost too easy.
But back to LDS, now I could be way off the mark here, but isn’t it LDS doctrine that Jesus came to America during his last days on Earth before he ascended into heaven? If Gaius were a Cylon it would explain how he could be in two places at once.
I hope the writers don’t do that either - but anyway they conclude is going to have some “WTF” elements to it.
One thing I’ve always liked about BSG is that you really don’t know who the “good guys” and “bad guys” are, in respect to the humans v. Cylons - which is what Lee’s speech at Gaius’ trial was all about - well, forcing the humans to really look inward.
I really liked the speech Gaius gave at the end. Whoever wrote that tapped into my brain.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
Can’t say oops on this one PAul
you tried to spin apples into hot water heaters……
it’s about guilt by association
Chances are with McCain as President Bin Laden remains free….
Your posting is beginning to sound like…..RW’s? Are you sure you aren’t who he’s invented now that the others have been outed?
HMMMMM
By Road Scholar
April 28, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
No one has questioned or commented on Sen. McCain’s proposal to suspend the Federal gas tax this summer. He assumes the savings will enable people to travel to their vacation destinations they otherwise would not visit or reduce the price of goods. The 18.4 cent gas tax/24.4 cent diesel tax amounts to 5% of the cost of gas. But what is the ramification to transportation?
The current Federal transportation bill calls for infrastructure spending levels which have not been funded by Congress in the Appropriations bill, esp when it was controled by the Repubs. The lack of monies (Georgia gets just less than $2 billion- about 90% of what we send to Washington) is delaying much needed projects on the Federal system. The collections are below the level that will keep the Highway trust fund solvent (HTF also pays for transit, safety, enhancement, bike, pedestrian etc programs).
Infrastruture needs are well outpacing the available funds. A recent Bipartisan committee reccomended an increase in transportation funding (based mostly of an increase in the gas tax) to address the decaying transportation system in the US. Remember the Interstae system was originally constructed in the 1960’s and 1970’s; the design life of most bridges and pavement is 50 years, while capacity improvements are designed for 20 years. Thus, the system is decaying. Add to it the weight limits for trucks being increased which only accelerates pavement deterioration.
GDOT used to spend 10% of its budget on maintaining stste and Interstate routes and that is now down to 3-4 %. All state route were overlaid/ upgraded every 10 years on a staggered, needs based method. Now that interval is greater. GDOT roads were rated the best in the nation for years, but now that is not true and its getting worse.
So, Mr McCain, how do you propose to fund transportation improvements and maintenance? (The official USDOT policy is supporting toll roads). Will we pay a toll to go a few miles to the store to buy milk, that is assuming we can still afford milk?
We already pay a user fee, the gas tax. No current projects are “toll funding compatible” due to costs to implement. So what is the solution? Instead of rebuilding Iraq, rebuild America! The money which is unaccountable in Iraq, or overspent due to the war’s privatization would be a good start!
Also Sen. McCain, since you are an alledged Maverick, and you are disgusted abo
By Bosch
April 28, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
Seriously, when is my government check coming?
And, will this count as income? Are we going to be taxed on this?
By Road Scholar
April 28, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
OUCH! I was cut off! I suppose by yhe AJCM hatchet. Here’s the rest:
Also Sen. McCain, since you are an alledged Maverick, and you are disgusted about how Bush handled Hurricane Katrina, where were you since the Hurricane hit NOLA? You’re not pandering for votes now, are you?
By Paul
April 28, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
IthN 9:28
“both Bush and McCain have bought Osama’s disinformation about Iraq being the central front in the war on terrorism”
See, that’s the problem with accepting anything and everything from an ideological angle.
Might I direct you to a commentary:
“First, the subject matter is Iraq, almost exclusively. Bin Laden and other al Qaeda leaders have said that Iraq is the main front in their global war against us. That sentiment is repeated in the video. Bin Laden begins by saying that he will “[discuss] the war that is between us,” and that discussion is entirely about Iraq.”
The commentary has a link to bin Laden’s transcript. Source material and all that.
Of course, acknowledging that would weaken the case that an immediate withdrawal would strengthen operations against al Qaeda. Which is why we have the incredible claim that OBL’s rather rare messages to his followers are not messages of exhortation, strategy or a call to action, but are simply “disinformation.”
Do your sources have any other ideas on which of OBL’s other pronouncements or writings are not sincere but are also “disinformation?”
IThN 9:35
You did it - your link for the day with which I agree.
There’s an old saying - “There’s no such thing as a “retired” general.”
In the cases cited, DoD should treat them just the same as any other citizen. Honor due rank does not mean preferential business treatment.
‘Course, I also favor banning them from working for any entity for two years in the defense industry or where their their rank or contacts cultivated while on active duty are a driving factor. Same as the rules that exist for acquisition (contracting, procurement, etc) officers.
I realize that’s just more right-wing bias -
See? A problem, a criticism and a proposed solution. You really should try it sometime.
RW? LOL! He’s referred to several times on our different policy views. We can argue and discuss and still respect the other’s view. RW stays on point, answers questions specifically, makes his case, and I don’t recall his ever saying “you question me on N? Well, your guys do X, so there!” Or dismiss a point as “spin” and not address the elements of the point.
He’s never
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
So I get namejacked at 8:21 and at 8:24 little newsie namejacker comments on it.
YOU DO THE (Hussein) MATH.
ITFhS,
If you just watched the Wright appearance at the National Press Club you probably ought to quit challenging people to watch the Moyers interview. He complained no less than four times about all the wonderful things he said that Moyers edited out. If you’re going to use that moniker you should really make an attempt at staying up to the minute.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Paul, Sorry, but I can’t take your criticism too seriously, your track record just ain’t that great.
And I am growing more suspicious of who you really are…..
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
RW…..still lurking…..
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
While we’re on the subject of elitism and insensitivity to hardworking Americans by presidential candidates, perhaps it would be worth it to look directly at McCain himself.
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
little newsie namejacker,
I know you see me everywhere, but you really can be helped.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Reverend Wright said this morning that Osama Bin Laden was doing God’s work by attacking America. Any of you agree with that?
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
The Republican/Media Smearing of Reverend Wright
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
RW…
“Reverend Wright said this morning that Osama Bin Laden was doing God’s work by attacking America. Any of you agree with that?”
Want to provide the quote?
By AJC Management
April 28, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
Just for a moment ponder the millions of times that the liberals blamed the Catholic child abuse scandal on Christianity as a whole, and then read this, hahahaha:
{{{{Catholics, who compose a massive 67 million-person slice of the electorate, favored Democrats in Tuesday’s election by 55 percent to 45 percent, according to National Election Pool exit polls. For much of the 20th century, American Catholics were loyal Democrats.}}}}
Why, you little freaks.
Now you NAMBLA perverts own both of the disgusting child abuse problems in America, the Catholic church and the public school system.
No child’s behind left, for real.
Sickos.
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
little newsie namejacker,
When asked to explain his “chickens coming home to roost” comment, Reverend Wright said it was biblical and that when a country like America visits terror on others then they can expect terror to be visited back on them and again said it was biblical. What is that other than saying OBL is doing God’s work?
By Paul
April 28, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
IThN 10:14
If you notice, much of my criticism is not on the substance of the source but the misleading elements that go along with it - as with the McCain jet trips - rather an inaccurate “over the top” to portray the political enemies in the worst light possible.
So I can see why you’d think that isn’t a great track record.
your 10:32
All right! You’re asking for source material! Does this mean we’ll see less Crooks and Liars, MoveOn and ThinkProgress links and more original sources in your posts?! Yea! Progress!
Bosch
Payments to electronic accounts begin the first of May. Paper checks go out a few weeks later. It’s not income. Just as a tax refund isn’t income, it’s a return of an overpayment.
Your BSG/LDS question: my understanding is LDS consider God the God of the whole world, not limited in Who he communicates to. They believe that prior to destruction of Jerusalem God directed a small group to leave and get on a boat where currents took them to the new world (the Thor Heyerdahl thing). They believe that God continued to communicate through prophets just as He did in the old world. They believe after His resurrection Jesus appeared to them and organized believers just as he did in old world. They fought among themselves and pretty much exterminated the believers. The record of God’s dealings with them is what they call the Book of Mormon (name of one of their prophets) just as the Bible is the record of God’s dealings with man in the old world.
Long answer to the short question. Personally, I don’t care if people believe that, if they believe their prophet rode up to Allah on a horse, if God is found in Nature, or if there is no God and man evolved from some primordial ooze.
Let people believe what they want. Without ridicule or persecution. Likewise, let those who believe or not believe certain things not impose those beliefs through our civil system.
Just live and let live.
By AmVet
April 28, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Interesting read on the upcoming US presidential election possibilities:
WASHINGTON — The electoral road to the White House favors Democrats this fall _ either Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton _ and has Republican John McCain playing defense to thwart a presidential power shift.
A downtrodden economy, the war in Iraq and a public call for change have created an Electoral College outlook and a political environment filled with extraordinary opportunity for the Democrats and enormous challenge for the GOP nominee-in-waiting.
http://newsmax.com/politics/roadto270/2008/04/26/91185.html
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
HEY RW
Is your response to my question at 10:32 your response at 10:45?
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Or maybe it was at 10:56!
HMMMMMM
By Paul
April 28, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Bosch
Did you relent and listen to Justice Scalia on 60 minutes?
AmVet
The eternal question: will they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
little newsie namejacker @ 11:00,
Yes
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
STILL STALLING ON MEDICAL RECORDS
By Paul
April 28, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
RW-(the original)
The Moyers interview - I thought it was decent from the standpoint of a long discussion. Moyers showed a photo - LBJ in the operating room, Wright in scrubs right behind and Moyers (LBJ’s press secretary) in the background.
Wright did do a good job of explaining background - said how people confuse governments with God - that govt’s fail but God doesn’t. Talked about God’s favor when govt’s follow God’s principles and how God cannot bless unrighteousness (mentioned briefly the background of the word “damn”).
I do fault Moyers for not following up. It struck me how Wright sounded with Moyers vs in the pulpit, where he goes “over the top” - and it’s those over the top remarks, some of which you cite, that Moyers let slide completely.
Switch to Obama’s interview on Fox (golly, I wonder if Obama’s a liar now ‘cause everyone who appears on Fox is a liar, at least that was the word a year or so ago). Obama spoke of the generational differences. How he didn’t experience what Wright did. How he disagrees with how Wright phrases things.
Moyers did ask Wright if Obama ever quoted him in his political speeches. Fun question.
I think O Reilly is a bit harsh on this point, too. I do think his analysis - that Obama went to Wright as he was part of the “in” crowd with contacts he’d need to further his political career, it was a nexus of the political power structure (as some say the country club and Kiwanis and Rotary is for Republican aspirants) and Obama used it to get ahead.
By AmVet
April 28, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
Paul,
Very likely. And then blame Nader again!
But overall, even the nincompoops in that party are going to have a relatively easy time, IMHO, benefiting from the ongoing and growing Republican “exodus”…
“Let my people go!”
By getalife
April 28, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
Okay, the choice is clear.
We must unite with Clinton like the gop did with mcwar.
If we do not, nothing will change and it will be your fault.
So, if you really want change and really want to win this time and not lose three in a row,
Hillary Clinton is the obvious choice.
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Paul,
I generally only watch The Factor when Laura Ingraham is guest hosting so I haven’t heard a word of BOR’s take on Wright.
Watching an interview with political twins such as Wright and Moyers seems a pointless waste of time. I much prefer seeing his remarks to the NACCP in Detroit where he said much the same things as the book The Bell Curve did when he decided to explain the neurological differences between Africans and Europeans or his remarks the the National Press Club this morning where he said it was our biblical just dues that 9/11 happened.
It’s also interesting that he now has his own Nation of Islam protection detail. Maybe Obama could go that route and save us some Secret Service dollars.
By Paul
April 28, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
getalife
I just heard Rev Wright with some new quotes from his publicity tour over the weekend. Said those who criticize him are attacking the Black Church (deflection, victim). If I heard correctly, does believe “the government” invented AIDS and “injected it into the Black Community.”
Question: Is Rev Wright on Hillary’s campaign staff? Working to make her the nominee? ‘Cause just when the furor was dying down, here he comes again, pouring gasoline on the embers.
:-)
By The Devil You say
April 28, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
getalife - you are right. Hillary is the best candidate the Demoncrats have. However, she has run a terrible campaign from a stragetic point of view. She does also stand a better chance of winning against McCain because Obama is an empty suit. However, she would still lose in the end. People will vote on security issues in November, just as they did in 2004, and McCain will be seen as better on security.
The Democrats need to stop advocating DEFEAT. If they want to win they need to back a good plan for victory in Iraq and the wider war on terrot AND emphasize their issues on the domestic side.
The fact is that the unemployment rate right now is 5.1% nationwide. More people are worried about illegal immigrants taking their jobs than anything else. The Democrats are considered weak on immigration and national security and people are wary because they want to raise taxes, and it doesn’t matter on whom.
Until the Democrats really REFORM and moderate, they will continue to lose elections. Remember, only three have mangaged to win a majority of the popular vote in the last 170 years!!!
By getalife
April 28, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
devil,
She wins the general easily. The gop strategy is to tie Obama to Wright like the Dems tying mcwar to bush.
The gop can’t tie Wright to Clinton.
The choice is clear.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
RW….
I can see your thought process on this.
It’s like saying Grant was doing God’s work smacking down the Confederacy for the sin of slavery.
Or FDR was doing God’s work when he slapped the Nazi’s or Truman whipping the Japanese.
I can see how that goes.
However, I don’t think 618,000 dead in the civil war, the fire bombing of Dresden or Hiroshima and Nagasaki really should be considered Gods work.
Is the concept of blowback real? To be sure.
Is Reverend Wright saying that we have or will pay for whatever sins we commit - even as a nation ? You betcha’.
Does twisting the words of a wonderful man to make them as appear ugly as possible work?
Only for the truly ignorant.
By getalife
April 28, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Fox covered his speech at the NAACP live.
He called the media “my stick on stupid friends” live on Fox. Too funny.
Bottom line, he is taking his fifteen minutes to write a book on change.
Change is a money maker but we have three Senators running. If you paid attention to the Senate on C Span these last 8 years, you would see the Senate is corporate owned.
Not much is going to change out of these three Senators but Clinton spoke out the most on w’s disasters.
Her plans are the best and she is the only Senator that does not have a Wright or McGee.
The choice is clear.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Last night, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia granted his first broad-based television interview, to Lesley Stahl on CBS’s 60 Minutes. There he explained that the torture of detainees does not violate the 8th Amendment’s ban on “cruel and unusual punishment” because, according to Scalia, torture is not used as punishment:
By Glad I am not on a fixed income
April 28, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
My F150 doubled in value yesterday. Of course I had filled it up with gas and groceries.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
More than 70 top Clinton donors wrote their first checks to Obama in March, campaign records show. Clinton’s lead among superdelegates, a collection of almost 800 party leaders and elected officials, has slipped from 106 in December to 23 now, according to an Associated Press tally.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Barack Obama isn’t the only candidate with ties to a controversial religious group
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
little newsie namejacker @ 12:14,
They were his words not mine. Please either pay attention or stick to spam.
little newsie namejacker @ 12:17,
There is a very distinct difference between torture and punishment, as Justice Scalia eloquently pointed out. Why are you twisting the words of a great man to make them sound as bas as possible?
What?…..Never mind, you answered at the end of your 12:14.
By @@
April 28, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Paul said: (((Obama used it to get ahead.)))
Well isn’t that just “SUPER MAN”!
Leaving his fellow parishioners to be victims of Wright’s rantings.
Kiwanis and Rotary are multi-cultural organizations unless, of course, one believes that African Americans are incapable of owning and operating a successful business while promoting civic responsibility. I’m not one of those people.
Sorry Paul, didn’t know how else to work this cartoon into a comment.
Drafting off the jet stream.
By getalife
April 28, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
A new AP/Ipsos poll shows Hillary Clinton performing better than Barack Obama in a national match-up against John McCain:
Clinton (D) 50%, McCain (R) 41% Obama (D) 46%, McCain (R) 44% For comparison, here’s the previous AP/Ipsos poll from April 10:
Clinton (D) 48%, McCain (R) 45% Obama (D) 45%, McCain (R) 45%
By @@
April 28, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
Is your SUPER FAIRY wearing bi-focals?
By Delta employee
April 28, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
If you think our customer service is bad now, wait until we try to assimilate the thousands of disgruntled Northwest employees into the fold. At least they are already demoralized and their spirits are broken, so they should make excellent Delta employees. We are also changing our motto from “we are ready when you are” to “you better be ready when we are.”
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
April 28, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
RW
I can see why you are a HERO to neo-cons, Bushbots, wingnuts, and other radical righties. TOO FUNNY!
Just because Scalia thinks torture isn’t “punishment” don’t make it true, right or moral.
Proud though, that you confuse my humble prose with that of pro prose at Think Progress.
How’s Saxby?
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
little newsie namejacker,
Nor does Scalia believe torture is true, right, or moral, but far be it from me to try to get you to think for yourself.
Pro prose at Think Progress???? BWAHAHAHAHAH
Find out for yourself
By The Devil You say
April 28, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
getalife - With the vast majority of the media bashing bush every day, either Clinton or Obama should be trouncing McCain in the polls, but that is not happening. Why? Because both are remarkably WEAK candidates. My elderly father says that the Democrats could win if they would just stop running Democrats. By that he means radical leftists. Too many people have started to figure out that ‘change’ means more government.
George McGovern ran on a platform of surrender and withdrawal and radical change. He lost to a remarkably weak president who was ripe for defeat and who was not even liked very much by his party’s base because he was too liberal. You are in for the McGovern redux with Obama. You’re gonna hate 2008!!
By The Devil You say
April 28, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
ITN - if that was McCain’s wife’s private jet, then he is allowed to use it!!! That is not a gift. That is family property. The Kennedys and Senator Rockefeller use their own jets quite frequently. There is never a peep about it.
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
The Devil You Say,
Don’t forget about John Kerry roaming the country from one of Teresa’s mansions to another in Teresa’s G-5.
By Paul
April 28, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
getalife 12:16
Well there you have it again. Money and power.
Amen to the corporate-owned. ‘Nuther reason for sole public financing and term limits.
IThN 12:17
Dang lawyers and justices. Pointing out the word “Punishment.” Then insisting on a meaning for it.
If you saw the entire interview, you’ll recall he said don’t invent law through appeals of cases. He did not address the morality of torture - just that opposing it though citing a punishment clause is fallacious. He said if it isn’t in the Constitution, then let the legislators write new law. Then they can address that which the Constitution does not address. Like torture in nonpunishment instances.
But given the Dem Congress track record on passing meaningful legislation, I can kinda see why ThinkProgress is stutteringly frustrated.
@@
No apology necessary. Pretty clever draft, in fact.
By Paul
April 28, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
Devil You Say - RW
Hey! Stop bashing those supporters of Real America!
One inherited it. The other married it.
Hillary earned it.
And they all want to keep it.
By AJC Management
April 28, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
{{{{A well-coordinated assassination attempt on President Hamid Karzai by suspected Taliban insurgents at the Afghan national day military parade in central Kabul has turned into a moment of national embarrassment for the government, blah, blah, blah, America sucks, blah, blah, Afghanistan is a failure, blah, blah-Urinal}}}}
Umm, the Afghanis prevented the Taliban from getting their target, duh.
This the Urinal sees as an “embarrassment?”
To bad Pakistan wasn’t “embarrassed” about Bhutto.
~~~~~
{{{{Twenty-two years after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, work is under way on a colossal new shelter to cover the ruins and deadly radioactive contents of the exploded Soviet-era power plant.-Urinal}}}}
Huh, no mention in the Urinal of the “enormous” death toll from this catastrophic horrifying meltdown, I wonder why?
{{{{28 people died within four months from radiation or thermal burns, 19 have subsequently died, and there have been around nine deaths from thyroid cancer apparently due to the accident: total 56 fatalities as of 2004.}}}}
The most devastating nuclear accident possible, a total meltdown of the reactor core, killed less people than die in coal mining accidents every year, year after year after year.
But yet the environmental terrorists continue their kampaign against safe, clean nuclear energy?
As I have said many times before, when the liberals play with junk science, people die.
By The Devil You say
April 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
RW - thanks, I had forgotten about that. John Kerry has a history of marrying rich heiresses anyway. He’s a gigelo.
Paul - amen to your 1:04 post.
By The Devil You say
April 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
Paul - yes they all want to keep it, so you will see the tax laws written accordingly, but any doctor or lawyer or small businessperson making $300,000 a year will be taxed at a confiscatory rate because they are ‘lucky’ or ‘greedy’. I guess is you are a fat drunk whose father made his fortune in illegal liquor and questionable stock transactions, then it is okay.
The Kennedys have never paid one penny in estate tax!
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Paul,
I’m kind of surprised the moonbat(ic)s® jumped on the punishment/torture flap first. I thought the first thing they would be crowing about was when Scalia told Stahl that if by political decision all she meant was that the Bush v. Gore decision ended the 2000 election then he could agree it was a political decision.
Maybe the word “torture” is such a red flag/herring to them that they missed that for now. I was so looking forward to them leaving out the part about how the decision would have been the same even if the players were reversed.
By Paul
April 28, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
Devil You Say
You’re whistlin’ in the wind here trying to get anyone from the farleft to even acknowledge the ramifications of the Kennedy trusts. I’m no expert on tax law, but the overriding impression is millions are generated, living expenses for an extended family are paid, and little income tax it collected.
Even when, in the VP debate, VP Cheney pointed out Sen Edwards’ use of the law to save paying over $800k in Social Security taxes, there was nary a peep.
Economic self interest and putting on a false face is independent of political affiliation. But the farleft won’t concede anything.
By The Devil You say
April 28, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Paul - public financing is a really bad idea, as are term limits. Countries and states that have them are much more corrupt than those that don’t. Full disclosure is the best solution to the campaign finance problem. All we are doing now is limiting high political office to the super rich. Just look at the names right out of the Forbes 400 who are in the Senate (a little bit of an exaggeration, but not much): McCain, Feinstein, Bill Nelson, Isakson, Grassley, Kennedy, Kerry, Dayton (ret.), Danforth (ret.), Bob Kerrey (ret.), Lautenberg, Corzine, Clinton, Edwards (ret.), Metzenbaum (dec.), Gordon Smith, Heinz (dec.), Gore (ret.), Hutchison, Allen, Cantwell, Rockefeller, Kohl and Enzi.
And that is just the Senate, and not even a complete list. I did not include the House or the Governors. I think I made my point.
By bon scott
April 28, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
So Wright is getting grief for basically saying 9/11 was God’s will? Isn’t this the same as the “Reverends” Robertson and Falwell blaming 9/11 on the US’s refusal to condemn the ACLU, People for the American Way, homosexuality, etc. etc?
I mean, what’s the difference? Except that Falwell and Robertson would never support a Democrat?
Andee SEDPO (Secret Extreme Democratic Party Operative): You continue to do a fine job. Except that equating the entire Roman Catholic Church with pederasty may be pushing the envelope a bit too much.
By @@
April 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
Well thankee Paul. The bi-focal one came to me late. I thought for sure I’d be called a homophobe for that one.
I have a question re: public financing. I’m assuming you’re talking about campaign finance in your 1:04.
Obama, after taking in millions from the public is now talking about restricting financing in the general to public funds so that ad attacks (his words) “such as those put out by the SwiftBoat Veterans” can’t ensue. Of, course he made no mention of George Soros and MoveOn - like they haven’t got plans for attacks against McCain. Anyhoo, what happens to all those millions Obama has taken in?
My husband says that, by law, Obama can keep it. Can he also put it in the coffers of the DNC? If so, wouldn’t that influence the votes of supers?
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
Let’s go ahead and started planting excuses for Obambi in case Hillary puts another smack down on him in Indiana.
Those most likely to be affected include important Democratic constituencies: minority, student and poor voters. African-Americans and students are expected to provide crucial support to Obama’s campaign next week, and Monday’s ruling could cost him thousands of votes.
Thousands of votes? First off most of these students will be college students. What are the odds they don’t have an ID? The poor have been voting for Hillary so why isn’t this a wash?
Exit question, does The Hill realize this is a Democrat primary we’re talking about?
By Paul
April 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
RW-(the original)
Scalia had a great point - try to define it. Like another justice said about pornography. But I think you are correct - it’s a huge, emotional red flag.
I too thought they’d jump on the “political” decision. It’s a misleading soundbite tailor made for them. I liked it when he said “7-2 isn’t even close” and “get over it.” And that would lead to wider dissemination of his statement that Gore initiated it. Didn’t someone here say, if you’re going to issue a challenge and go to court, make sure you have a better case and better lawyers than your opponent? LOL!
BTW - I still like the Ramirez political cartoon - politician at a mic saying “I vow I will never pour water up someone’s nose for 30 seconds to save 3,000 American lives.”
Whoever gets elected, theory will fall by the wayside and reality will hit. Hard.
At least, I hope it does.
By Did you see...
April 28, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this
Caught part of Wright’s speech yesterday on CNN. The crawl at the bottom of the picture said “Different Does Not Mean Deficient,” which I thought was excellent.
The speech was already in progress, he was speaking of different music and worship styles…when all of a sudden Wright began mocking white people.
No joke, after a great build-up about contrasting cultures/attitudes, he “imitated” a white person singing “Oh, How I Love Jesus” with palpable disgust.
I’ll pull the transcript later to read it, but YIKES!
By bon scott
April 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Memo to Andee SEDPO (Secret Extreme Democratic Party Operative): Isn’t the RC Church in the vanguard of the battle against abortion? Tsk, tsk. Abandoning an ally like this with scurrilous charges of endemic pederasty.
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
{{{{So Wright is getting grief for basically saying 9/11 was God’s will? Isn’t this the same as the “Reverends” Robertson and Falwell blaming 9/11 on the US’s refusal to condemn the ACLU, People for the American Way, homosexuality, etc. etc?}}}}
finch,
I believe you’ve finally, after all these years, said something that made sense, but if your implication is that Falwell and Robertson caught no grief over the comments then you’re sadly mistaken.
Paul,
I’m sure they’ll get around to it. Maybe someone that visits those sites every ten minutes or so could drop a hint. <—that’s your cue, lnn.
By AJC Management
April 28, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
{{{{By bon scott April 28, 2008 1:49 PM Memo to Andee SEDPO (Secret Extreme Democratic Party Operative): Isn’t the RC Church in the vanguard of the battle against abortion? Tsk, tsk. Abandoning an ally like this with scurrilous charges of endemic pederasty.}}}}
bonnie: So I’m supposed to be en holden to any organization, no matter how extremist their views and actions are, just because they support a single position of mine?
Who do you think I am, Obambi?
By Are you into Idiocy or Satire?
April 28, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
To the poster at 1:11…
Your question/statement:
“But yet the environmental terrorists continue their kampaign against safe, clean nuclear energy?”
…is already addressed earlier in your same post:
“Twenty-two years after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, work is under way on a colossal new shelter to cover the ruins and deadly radioactive contents of the exploded Soviet-era power plant.”
Hows about you take a one-to-two week sightseeing trip through the ruins, then report back to us on the state of your health in a couple of months?
Deal?
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
{{{{{In fact, the policy of non-engagement with terrorists that so surprised Carter in 2005 dates back to before his own presidency in 1976. Perhaps Carter spent too much time kissing the cheek of Leonid Brezhnev to notice, but the US has always insisted that it would not negotiate with terrorist groups, which has included Hamas since the group’s inception. The election gave Hamas an opportunity to repudiate terrorism and to recognize the right of Israel to exist within borders later to be determined. It has done neither. Hamas conducted a coup d’etat in overthrowing the Palestinian Authority in Gaza and uses Gaza as a launching pad for rocket attacks on civilians in Ashkelon and Sderot, which they continued while Carter was in Israel and Syria.}}}}}
Carter can play he-said, she-said with Condoleezza Rice all day long on whether he was “warned” not to meet with Hamas, but he knows perfectly well that negotiations with unrepentant terrorists is forbidden. The smug satisfaction he beams on Today comes from knowing that it wouldn’t have made any difference, anyway, as he himself admits. Nothing was going to keep Carter from hugging Khaled Mashaal.
I wish he’d get back to spotting UFOs and killer rabbits.
By mm
April 28, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
Well, the government is starting to send out our loans from China today. The only thing most Americans will be using it for is to pay off debt, not buying cars, refrigerators, etc.
By Grammar Queen
April 28, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
RW/duhng at 1:40:
Pull your lapping tongue out of Bush’s behind and repeat after me:
DemocratIC Primary.
Got it? Good.
You win a breath mint.
By The Devil You say
April 28, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
grammar queen - It is a Democrat Primary because it is NOT democratIC. The rules under which this ‘poddy’ is funcioning are anything BUT democratic.
By getalife
April 28, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
Hillary Clinton will be the next President.
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
Queenie,
When someone asks you if you believe the Democrat or the Republican will win a race do you answer, “the DemocratIC?”
By AJC Management
April 28, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Are you into Idiocy or Satire? April 28, 2008 2:06 PM Hows about you take a one-to-two week sightseeing trip through the ruins, then report back to us on the state of your health in a couple of months?}}}}
Sure, as soon as you go into a coal mine and poke at the ceiling with metal rod.
By the way, dimwit, how can they get close enough to cover Chernobyl without getting fried?
Unless it’s not as bad as you hysteritics have made it out to be.
By Schmedley Carson
April 28, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
Scalia on 60 minutes last night: this phony is exposed for the incompetent political appointee he truly is. His answers included not one reasoned response. He’s simply an opinionated lout, the thinking destiny of all mediocrities who get rewarded for being average.
The bush/gore 2000 election decision was not “political”? That’s what stripped the emperor of all clothing including the jock strap. It allows you to extrapolate everything he says, which is 10% law and 90% azz.
See, the constitution isn’t a living document, it’s a dead document. What does that mean? only that when Scalia hears people extol the virtues of our living, maleable constitution, they cant possible be correct, they’re not on the supreme court, so he sez the opposite of what they say, cause he’s the judge and the legal genius, and they’re simply the people. Living? No! Dead! I hate that man.
He’s a fool. We are so in trouble, folks. Bush wasn’t supposed to be prez during 911. Bush is the crucial complication and the sum total of the accumulation of improbables (911, food and energy spikes, Iraq), that cause super catastrophes to occur.
We are so in trouble. man oh man. Scalia is a half serious goof of a judge too impressed with himself. The duke of doubt, the contrarian from hell. I really got a big problem with Scalia. He annointed the war on terror as a crusade with a religious benediction about it in 2002. He is a catholic, which is all he’s got going for him.
At least he’s a catholic. you know, the one true religion, from which all others either sprang, or became the anti-matter to. (islam)
Does Al Queda even have a flag?
By Grammar Queen
April 28, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Got it…you hold the butt cheek while RW does the servicing.
But what is this “funcioning” of which you speak? A new line dance?
By Grammar Queen
April 28, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
Got it…you hold the butt cheek while RW does the servicing.
But what is this “funcioning” of which you speak? A new line dance?
By Jesus
April 28, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By Paul
April 28, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
@@ 1:39
Here’s the relevant portion from the interview about Obama campaign financing:
WALLACE: The Wall Street Journal says that you are prepared to run the first privately-financed campaign - presidential campaign since Watergate. True?
OBAMA: Look, we’ve done a wonderful job raising money from the grassroots. I’m very proud of the fact that in March, in February for example, 90 percent of our donations came over the Internet. Our average donation is $96. And we’ve done an amazing job, I think, of mobilizing people, to finance our campaigns in small increments.
I have promised that I will sit down with John McCain and talk about, can we preserve a public system, as long as we are taking into account third party, independent expenditures, because what I don’t intend to –
WALLACE: If you could get that agreement you would go for a publicly financed campaign?
OBAMA: What I don’t intend to do is to allow huge amounts of money to be spent by the RNC, the Republican National Committee or by organizations like the Swift Boat organization and just stand there without –
WALLACE: If you get that agreement?
OBAMA: I would be very interested in pursuing public financing because I think not every candidate is going to be able to do what I’ve done in this campaign and I think it’s important to think about future campaigns.
The entire transcript is here, for those who like original sources:
Link: Obama interview on FNS
Devil You Say,
I’ll have to get back with you - must run out to a short-notice meeting.
By Schmedley Carson
April 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
Al queda’s flag is a rising orange tennis ball under a orange net. That makes John Mackenroe the anti-christ!
By The Devil You say
April 28, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
Grammar Queen - excuse my typo. I should have typed function, but I was in a hurry. Also, not all of us can have delusions of perfection as you do. I have no delusions at all. That is why I am a free market conservative.
By @@
April 28, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Damn Paul! You’re as bad as RW.
I know how to read, and I’ve already read the transcript (before you drug it over for me).
There was a question in my post, and like RW, you don’t seem to want to answer my question.
Poo Poo on you too. (ISH)
IN THE (Hussen) NEWS:
You cannot take ^^^ that post to mean that RW and Paul are the same person.
I asked RW a question over at his site the other day. He brushed me off. Therefore, I’m not speaking to RW ever again. Add Paul to that list now!
J/K guys<———(that’s plural ITN).
I’ll ask a question whenever I feel like, and if you don’t answer I’ll speculate.
By AJC Management
April 28, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
{{{{The elite media regularly underreport fundamentalist Muslim misbehavior or obfuscate its true nature. After the knighting of Rushdie in 2007 unleashed yet another wave of international Islamist mayhem, Tim Rutten wrote in the Los Angeles Times: “If you’re wondering why you haven’t been able to follow all the columns and editorials in the American press denouncing all this homicidal nonsense, it’s because there haven’t been any.” Or consider the riots that gripped immigrant suburbs in France in the autumn of 2005. These uprisings were largely assertions of Muslim authority over Muslim neighborhoods, and thus clearly jihadist in character. Yet weeks passed before many American press outlets mentioned them—and when they did, they de-emphasized the rioters’ Muslim identity (few cited the cries of “Allahu akbar,” for instance). Instead, they described the violence as an outburst of frustration over economic injustice.}}}}
Maybe because the pinko press is on the same side that the terrorists are, no?
By mm
April 28, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Line of the day from Devil:
{{{I have no delusions at all. }}}
By @@
April 28, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
Hmmmmmm. I’ve always seen a strange correlation between groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, the Sadr Militias and the Democrats.
It’s the actions of these groups which bring a people to their knees, and then the militants offer the barest of essentials to garner their support.
(((Mr. Sadr’s officials, however, lost no time in reaching out to beleaguered residents. Hazim al-Araji, a member of Parliament from Mr. Sadr’s bloc, announced that Mr. Sadr’s offices would compensate families who had lost a close relative and would make payments to those who had been wounded.)))
(((While Mr. Araji did not say the exact amount that each family would get, a reporter attending a funeral in Sadr City said the family had received a half million Iraqi dinars, about $425, from an official in Mr. Sadr’s office. Seriously wounded people were said to be getting about $200 and those with minor injuries were receiving about $110. Sadr officials were also said to be paying for funerals, which include a three-day period of mourning when relatives and friends come to the home of the bereaved and must be offered food and drink.)))
A rather twisted psychology if you ask me.
By Schmedley Carson
April 28, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
The cartoon blew chunks. If there was any justice, ML would be behind bars tonite.
Maybe Sen. Craig, famous for airports would be the tooth FAIRY fo save on travel costs. now that’s funny.
BUT NOT SUPERMAN. he flies for free, knucklehead. you p me off sometimes, ML.
Shame, sir. A crime against comedy.
By Devastator
April 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
I’ve just landed in North Carolina, and I wanted to let you know about where we stand in this battleground state.
All across North Carolina, I’ve spoken to veterans, students, and factory workers about the challenges small-town America is facing — and about how we’re going to start solving them.
I see the excitement on the ground, and I truly believe North Carolina is ready to stand up for a different kind of politics. But only if people like you get involved and take ownership of this effort.
In the coming days, supporters across the country will be coming to North Carolina to knock on doors, make phone calls, and Get Out The Vote for Primary Day on May 6th — and they need your help.
I know this is a big decision. But what’s brought our campaign where we are today is that so many people — including many who never thought they’d get involved in politics in their lifetime — have taken that leap to help us succeed.
We need to finish strong in the Tar Heel State, so I hope you’ll sign up to take the trip this weekend:
http://my.barackobama.com/CometoNC
People are paying attention to what happens in North Carolina this week.
They know how far we’ve traveled together, but they want to know whether we can close this race, secure the nomination, and finally bring about the change our country so desperately needs.
We can bring jobs back to communities across America, reduce the price of gas, and put an end to the war in Iraq — and it all begins in North Carolina.
In the next eight days.
I hope you’ll join us.
Barack
By Devastator
April 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
@@,
To answer your question from last week:
I was attending Morehouse College when the Million Man march took place. I had buddies who went and tried to get me to go.
The results of the march are as I thought they would be then: Nothing. We still have the same drop out rates and broken homes as we did before the march. I was not interested in Farakkhan’s publicty stunt.
By Schmedley Carson
April 28, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
2, 2, 2long 2long devastator. nobody is reading that much drool from your cheeks.
25 words or less. the power of a word is immense. (oh!)
You drown the blog with a flood of useless narrative.
And I think it’s a damn shame. You’re better than that sir.
and so is the reader you torture.
By Schmedley Carson
April 28, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
Now for the really good part. God does not exist outside of man. God needs 2B observed to exist, otherwise Y would God need a moron like you around? U do everything wrong. You sin. You defy. you think you’re god. No, the universe itself cannot exist without man. The universe was created when man first observed it.
I’ll say it again: the universe was created when man first observed it.
God needs us as much as we need God. That’s how important U R.
Ever wonder Y me? Because your observation AND spin are required. You and everything you are or have been or have experienced is required by GOD to exist. You are everything, and you are nothing.
What does that mean? It means that you are what you choose to observe.
U R your spin.
God can’t exist in a rock or a monkey. He can only exist in the living mind of a man.
Know it. Believe it. Live it.
By @@
April 28, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
Hey look! There’s some smart Democrats over in Sadr City
((By RICHARD TOMKINS UPI Correspondent BAGHDAD, April 28 (UPI) — Violent clashes in Baghdad’s Sadr City between gunmen of the Mehdi Army and U.S. forces and Iraqi Security Forces appears to have dampened, allowing U.S. and Iraqi Army troops to continue outreach efforts in the southern reaches of the volatile district while continuing to mop up Mehdi Army elements.))
((“I think the people here are scared of JAM (Jaish al-Mehdi, the Arabic-language name for the Mehdi Army) and the special groups and have had enough of this fighting,” said Capt. Ryan Williams, of Comanche Troop, 1st Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment, attached to the 3rd Brigade. “Since it started we’ve gotten a steady stream of tips on weapons caches and the hideouts — and they’ve proved accurate.”))
I hear ‘ya Devastator. As I remember it, the MMM was to encourage responsible fathers thereby improving the lives of their children.
I’m one of those people who always hopes that these things will prove beneficial. I don’t understand why they fail.
I know what Farrakhan is all about. I’m not interested in his brand of showmanship and hatred.
By @@
April 28, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Schmedley:
You’re a student of Nietzsche aren’t you?
Nietzsche vs Freud - the “Eternal Recurrence” or ER, what I like to call the “Emergency Room” of mankind. (ISH)
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
@@,
Since you deleted your question I had no way to answer it. (ISH)
By @@
April 28, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Hey RW!
______?
As Honu would say….
Nyuk
Nyuk
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
@@,
Isn’t it a little dangerous to let me make up the question and then also answer it?
By AJC Management
April 28, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
I see that Jeremiah Wright is out kampaigning for Bruno today:
{{{{“Africans have a different meter, and Africans have a different tonality,” he said. Europeans have seven tones, Africans have five. White people clap differently than black people. “Africans and African-Americans are right-brained, subject-oriented in their learning style,” he said. “They have a different way of learning.” And so on.}}}}
{{{{After jokingly mocking the Boston accents of former Presidents John F. and Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., Wright said, “nobody says to a Kennedy, ‘You speak bad English,’ only to a black child was that said.” Wright said that he believes “a change is going to come, ‘cause many of us are committed to change how we see others who are different.”}}}}
Yeah, this is not too weird.
al-Gitmo: Dude, this is one church that you should donate heavily to.
You owe him.
By Schmedley Carson
April 28, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
No, @@, I refuse to read Nitzsche after Lennon mispronounced it.
What I blogged is what is apparent to me after 57 years of listening and watching people just like you. (and eating all my vegetables, and knowing and trusting that we were indeed created, we evolved, yes, but only as a direct result of a calculation that included the dinosaurs, clay, asteroid impacts, chaos, and the probability that there would be a god who would create a man.)
I know you are laughing at me, but I have a strong feeling you’re going to go straight to hell because your spin on god is grounded in your bank account and the number of zeroes you put on your checks, gee, i’m so impressed. That’s the mistake JOB made. U C, fair @@, God is not in the success, because in the story of JOB, God took the success away. So what R U saying, that God suddenly wasn’t God? no, the story of JOB tell us that only a fool would associate his earthly destiny with God’s approval.
Know it. Believe it. Live it.
By @@
April 28, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this
RW:
I would like to think not. However?
Schmeds:
Now why would you think I’m laughing at you?
My destiny isn’t earthly. For the time being, I’m stuck here just like everyone else who inhabits.
I’m just doing my best while I’m at it.
By truthman
April 28, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this
I came, I read, I left…SSDD!!
Although Smedley offered some good reading.
Maybe more cogent thought tomorrow!
Out here!
By Schmedley Carson
April 28, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this
Obama’s pastor was merely “Howard Sterning” to get attention. We all do that. You have to analchord a little to create a sellable sensation. There’s nothing unamerican about “Howard Sterning”.
You have to go low to get high. It’s a fact of communication. Otherwise: zzzzz
So you righteous conservatives who have lost your souls betting on an unjustified war in which tens of thousands were slaughtered for no other reason than your pathetic ignorance, well, you lost souls can SMD.
bwa
By Ted Geisel
April 28, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this
…or maybe Montecito, I’m thinking…
(…yeah, that feels about right…)
By Paul
April 28, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this
@@ 3:30
Who put a bee in your bonnet? I said I was in a rush for a meeting - so I linked to the Obama interview (not just for you, there are a couple here whose take is derived from what someone else said and you know how I love source material). So I didn’t say “later” on the question as I did with devilmaycare.
But you’re not talking to me. Metaphorically speaking, I suppose. But you are reading, yes? See, I do have faith - the essence of things hoped for but not seen.
BTW - I like how al Sadr’s getting pounded so he wants a ceasefire. He’s not so dumb.
By Schmedley Carson
April 28, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this
Obama’s pastor was quoting lincoln when he said “God damn America”. AND 4 the same reason.
Lincoln suggested the Civil War was God’s punishment againt the USA for slavery.
YOu people better start respecting the truth. God is watching you. ANd you cant buy him with all your paper.
I think you all stink.
By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) Loves Dikkk Cheney
April 28, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this
with or without the Cheney - extra sauce please!
Anyhow, great ‘toon - I’ve had to merge with more than a few fairies too in my day.
Not that I minded ;->
Kisses
Andiduh/AJC Management/Bush Butt Kisser
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this
@@,
You’re right, it wouldn’t be dangerous but it would be a question I could answer unlike the one you asked the other night. (ISH)
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I take it Hillary hasn’t reviewed her last debate on ABC. (Or she thinks you’re stupid)
{{{{{“I have said that that that was a personal decision of his I answered one question about it that made it clear I would not have stayed in that church under those circumstances,” Clinton told reporters in Graham, NC. ———->”But, I regret the efforts by the Republicans to politicize this matter<——— and I believe that if Senator McCain were serious he would do more than just send a letter he is the putative nominee I think he could very clearly tell the North Carolina party tell the Mississippi party that he would not tolerate those kinds of advertisements and I’m waiting to see if he does that.”}}}}}
By Schmedley Carson
April 28, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
You total ignorant and slutty fools. You are the devil. There’s no devil if not 4 U. Repent. Leave the good pastor alone.
The more you grind obama’s pastor the deeper you will find yourself in hell, and frankly, that’s the only thing that keeps me hangin’ on.You conservative fools, cant find one political objection to obama.
Only his pastor’s homily. You use the church against the church. You’re the devil. Bleat.
By Paul
April 28, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this
RW-(the original)
And of course, the same moral high ground will apply to Soros and Begala.
Let me know when you finish laughing. Or choking.
By AJC Management
April 28, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this
Ahh, yes, “global warming:”
{{{{Anchorage continues to dig out from a snowfall that set a record for the day and the month. The National Weather Service says 17.2 inches fell at its office just south of Anchorage’s international airport and 22 inches fell in northeast Anchorage on Friday and Saturday.}}}}
{{{{The monthly total at the weather service office is now 29.7 inches, breaking a record from 1963 when 27.6 inches fell during April.}}}}
It’s a good thing that those Caribou have that oil pipeline nearby to keep them…..warm.
Hahahahaha, morons.
By bon scott
April 28, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
Sorry, Andee SEDPO (Secret Extreme Democratic Party Operative), your suggestion that the Roman Catholic church is an open sanctuary for pedophiles is uncalled for. I’ll wager the vast majority of priests do not diddle with their flocks, be they children or adults.
Watch it! Your broad slander of a faith practiced by hundreds of millions of people erodes what little is left of your credibility.
Then again, any Catholic who reads your post will take your views as conservative Republican gospel, thus making it more likely that these so-called “Reagan Republicans” will NOT vote Republican in November.
You are SOOOO devious!
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
Paul,
I bet the Soros type groups were the ones choking on Obama’s tortured logic in trying to come to an agreement with McCain to shut those groups up. Maybe they can co-author the McCain-Obama bill to eliminate all freedom of speech in politics while simultaneously running against each other.
I did like McCain’s trick of saying they should suspend the gas tax now instead of waiting until one of them is President since they are all Senators. It makes you wonder why there isn’t already a bill pending with their name on it for every single proposal they speechify about.
By Frank Oppenheimer
April 28, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this
…or a small-town Dickensonian eclipse, gone inexplicably unnoticed in the twilight of everything around her…
By Schmedley Carson
April 28, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this
True story. Atlanta Airport. Today.
My friend went through the TSA, (Transportaion Security Authority?) scrutiny at the airport. As she went from one station to the next, one of these guys failed to give her the boarding pass back. So when she was asked for it at the metal detector, they descended on her like she was Obama’s sister, (who he molested),
Anyway, when the guy that failed to return her boarding pass finally showed up to exonerate her, he pulled her aside and suggested that she tip him $20 for his above-and-beyond-the-call-of-duty chivalry.
What’s happening to us? Even our guards are demanding ransom for loyal service.
Shakespeare tells us what to expect.
It’s not going to be pretty. Bush did this. So did you conservative fools by supporting that monkeyboy. Sure, 911 means never having to say you’re sorry for invading the wrong country.
By Paul
April 28, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this
RW-(the original)
I know, the free speech thing. Rather like Scalia talking about what he’d like to see vs what the Constitution provides.
The gas tax thing strikes me as pandering. Saw a reader comment to BOR the other night - suggested the margin requirement - proper term for the amount of money they bet? - for people bidding on oil be DRAMATICALLY increased.
But those traders give far too much to campaigns…
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this
finch,
That’s quite the pirouette to go from complaining that Andy is broadly slandering Catholics in paragraph 2 and then broadly slandering Catholics yourself in the first sentence of paragraph 3.
And it’s Reagan-Democrats….how long have you been back on the streets?
By RW-(the original)
April 28, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Of course it’s pandering and I don’t mean I like the proposal, I mean I like the tactic of reminding people that these candidates can take steps right now to do everything they propose for later.
By Wavy Gravy
April 28, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Now Schmedley why’dja hafta goin ruinit with the particklers o’ de day, like them Bush boys or Osama or something? You got the courage o’ yer Bardolections, or not? You sed he was talking through the ages, and so he was doon, loon. The only dignity we have left to us is the very small almost silent dignity of the guardian whose complete and constant and really only purpose is to protect because the chasm betweeen their fragility and our hardness is so…
By AJC Management
April 28, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this
{{{{By bon scott April 28, 2008 6:45 PM}}}}
bonnie: If you are trying to get me to bite on your bizarre little “operative” asides, I must inform you that it will never happen.
{{{{I’ll wager the vast majority of priests do not diddle with their flocks, be they children or adults.}}}}
You know, that could possibly be the first time that I have ever heard a liberal dimokrat come to the defense of Roman Catholic priest.
This is such an odd election year, whatever will we be witness to in the coming 6 months?
{{{{Watch it! Your broad slander of a faith practiced by hundreds of millions of people erodes what little is left of your credibility.}}}}
After the millions upon millions of smears, slurs and slander that you dimokrats, up to and including cartoon boy, leveled at them, they still voted for you, no?
By Paul
April 28, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this
RW-(the original)
What a great question that’d be - instead of “raise your hands” or “where’s the lapel pin?”
By bon scott
April 28, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this
Andee SEDPO (Secret Extreme Democratic Party Operative,
If you had even a basic knowledge of meteorology (which you obviously don’t, but I do) you would know that heavy snow occurs when air temperatures are comparatively warm. As it was in Anchorage when it was besieged by a relatively warm, moist mass of air.
The colder the air, the less moisture it holds. That’s where dew and frost come from. As humid air cools at night, it can hold less moisture, and the air has to put it somewhere, which it does. On your lawn, your car, etc., which are colder than the air surrounding them.
That’s why snowfalls are modest north of the arctic and south of the antarctic circle. Really cold air just doesn’t hold water. (Jeez, I crack myself up sometimes!)
The Anchorage storm neither proves nor disproves global warming. It highlights the need for more research.
Which, once upon a time, if I remember correctly, is an idea (research) you actually agreed with.