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Inauguration

By Mike Luckovich | Thursday, April 24, 2008, 07:30 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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By AJC Management

April 24, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

McCain lost a lot of weight, didn’t he? And he seems taller too.

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{{{{Money. Barack Obama’s mystical pull on people is nice, but nice in modern politics comes after money. Once Barack proved conclusively that he could raise big-time cash, the Clintons’ strongest tie to their machine began to unravel. Today he’s got $42 million banked. She’s got a few million north of nothing.}}}}

{{{{It is hard to overstate how fatigued Democratic donors in Manhattan and L.A. got during the Clinton presidency to have Bill and Hillary fly in, repeatedly, to sweep checking accounts. The Lincoln Bedroom rental was cheesy. Bill’s 60th birthday gala (tickets $60,000 to 500K) was a Clinton fund-raiser. The 1996 John Huang-Lippo-China fund-raising scandal pushed Clinton contributors toward a milieu most didn’t need in their lives. Hillary’s 2007 Norman Hsu fund-raising scandal was an unsettling rerun of what the donor base could expect from another Clinton presidency.}}}}

{{{{It was all kind of gross, but the Clintons never seemed to see that.}}}}

Buh-bye.

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{{{{Timothy Donaghy, one of the report’s co-authors, said the findings should not be viewed as a random sample of EPA scientists. But “we have hundreds of scientists saying there is a problem” with assuring scientific integrity within the federal government’s principal environmental regulatory agency.-Urinal}}}}

If “if and buts” were candy and nuts, the Urinal would be eaten by small children.

Will you ever bring charges against anyone or just drag your show trials out until the end of time?

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{{{{Major greenhouse gases in the air are accumulating faster than in the past, despite efforts to curtail their growth. Carbon dioxide concentration in the air increased by 2.4 parts per million last year, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported Wednesday, and methane concentrations also rose rapidly.-Urinal}}}}

Notice how the libs aren’t talking about air temperature anymore?

A little too cold for that, eh?

By AJC Management

April 24, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

{{{{The Democratic Party has two weakened candidates. Mrs. Clinton started as a deeply flawed candidate: the palpable and unpleasant sense of entitlement, the absence of a clear and optimistic message, the grating personality impatient to be done with the little people and overly eager for a return to power, real power, the phoniness and the exaggerations. These problems have not diminished over the long months of the contest. They have grown. She started out with the highest negatives of any major candidate in an open race for the presidency and things have only gotten worse.}}}}

{{{{And what of the reborn Adlai Stevenson? Mr. Obama is befuddled and angry about the national reaction to what are clearly accepted, even commonplace truths in San Francisco and Hyde Park. How could anyone take offense at the observation that people in small-town and rural American are “bitter” and therefore “cling” to their guns and their faith, as well as their xenophobia? Why would anyone raise questions about a public figure who, for only 20 years, attended a church and developed a close personal relationship with its preacher who says AIDS was created by our government as a genocidal tool to be used against people of color, who declared America’s chickens came home to roost on 9/11, and wants God to damn America? Mr. Obama has a weakness among blue-collar working class voters for a reason.-Rove Monster}}}}

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I believe this POS is asking to be prosecuted:

{{{{Rice had chided Carter for meeting with Hamas, saying US State Department officials had told him such talks would not help the Middle East peace process.}}}}

{{{{But a statement from the Atlanta-based Carter Center, which speaks on the ex-president’s behalf, said no one from the US government told him not to meet with exiled Hamas chief Khaled Meshaal or other leaders of the group.}}}}

Dearest Bushie: Show us some proof and then put this little pervert bigot mofo in a jail cell.

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

Great cartoon, Mike Luckovich! You hit that one outta the park!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

McCain fails to vote on defeated equal pay for women Senate bill

AND

McCain dismisses equal pay legislation, says women need more ‘training and education.’

{{MSNBC’s First Read points out that McCain has missed “a staggering 58 percent” of 110th Congress votes. “McCain has now missed more votes than Sen. Tim Johnson of South Dakota, who suffered a brain hemorrhage in December 2006 and was unable to return to the Senate until fall of last year. McCain has now missed nine votes more than Johnson.”}}}

{{{Speaking of the Ledbetter bill, Clinton and Obama will return from the campaign trail to vote for the measure. John McCain, who has barely shown up for work in over a year, will not be there.}}}}

MAYBE MCCAIN THINKS ALL WOMEN AND NOT JUST CINDY ARE…..WELL YOU HEARD THAT NASTY WORD HE USED!!

By jasper

April 24, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this

Mike, you made all of the people in the audience white. That’s incredibly racist of you. This demands your immediate resignation.

By Goldie

April 24, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

LMAO! Your ‘toon is spot on as usual, Lucko!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

ONE PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS

THANK YOU SIR, May we have another four years?

By @@

April 24, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

Getalife:

ml’s trying to tell —>YOU<— that Hillary is “head & shoulders” above Obama.

He’s just not as brave as you are.

ml prefers to be sublimely subliminal.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

McCain advance teams need a little work

By bob

April 24, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Today’s cartoon was a rare hit for the DL’d ML. Bill Clinton steals the scene today, and the overall effect was an expertly-rendered one-two punch that was as funny as a cartoon can be. A master at work here. A+

By Goldie

April 24, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

ITN @ 8:52 — and what about Biloxi and Mobile and the rest of the Gulf Coast towns… were they also being judged harshly by God for their sins???

By Paul

April 24, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

IThN 8:13

You mean the Trial Lawyers of America Full Employment Bill? The essentially procedural vote that Sen Reid shut down the Senate for to stop further work until the Dem candidates could return to vote? That bill?

Why don’t your sources support more training and education for women? (Did I get the question right? Trying real hard, here. Kinda like the “why don’t you support the troops?” questions for the GI Bill),

Regarding the vote count, did your sources happen to break out final votes on legislation vs the myriad other votes that come up? Sounds in much the same vein as the anti-Obama ads that attacked his voting record. So let’s see: use an attack with Obama, it’s inaccurate and misleading. Wait a couple months, then use the same tactic against a Republican. Now I understand.

your 8:15

“MCSAME ADMITS HE DOESN”T UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMY”

Let’s see, name calling, personal denigration and a flat-out misrepresentation. I think you must be a Hillary supporter, ‘cause that sure doesn’t follow Obama’s exhortations on how to conduct a campaign.

But I have a feeling you’ll continue even after Obama’s the nominee.

By N-GA

April 24, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Can you spell “Pulitzer”?

By AJC Management

April 24, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

The weak minded wish that everyone would just shut up:

{{{{The latest confirmation came with this week’s announcement that Tony Snow, formerly a host at Fox News and press secretary for the White House, where he earned high marks as a gifted purveyor of Bush/Cheney propaganda, would be joining CNN as a commentator. I guess Karl Rove was too busy with his Newsweek gig and Bill Kristol with his New York Times column. What’s next, NPR signing up “Scooter” Libby and David Addington?-Airheadianna, Huff and Puff}}}}

Sniff, sniff.

Who knows, maybe you can train the newbies to say “America sucks.”

Or maybe not.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

PAUL @ 9:02

AND ALL FURTHER POSTS…..

Why in heaven would anybody have faith in the words of any one who has been a supporter of the Bush administration

It’s about credibility.

And Bush supporters (from Bushbots to casual voters) have NONE.

But I’m sure we are all delighted to read your right leaning opinion.

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Nice. This cartoon is great.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

IThN 9:11

LOL! So you use that as a reason to continue “the politics of the past” and to not embrace Obama’s call for a new way?

Telling. He doesn’t find it necessary. Why do you?

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

On second thought, good point, jasper @ 8:19. Perhaps a petition is in order. While we’re at it, let’s throw into our list of grievances that the banner reading “Innauguration” is extraneous and amateurish; that the draftsman struggles with the new President’s upraised hand; and that it would be funnier were Bill on Hillary’s shoulders, calling himself “Hillary Clinton”.

Ah, the sweet advantages of a critic!

By Paul

April 24, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

IThN 9:22

Somehow, I just KNEW you’d cite this this morning. This just keeps getting better and better.

I saw this story last night. The North Carolina Rep Party’s running a pretty shoddy attack ad. McCain asked them not to do it (I see your source thinks McCain controls the NC party and they’re his “minions” - yeah, right). They told McCain “forget it.” McCain has repeatedly said he wants the same kind of campaign Obama has advocated.

Cut to Obama. He made the same charge you cited - if McCain can’t control them and they won’t do what he asked…

I was dumbfounded. It struck me as a tactical error, counting on the short attention span of the American voter (not a bad bet, actually).

Soros is raising 40 mil for McCain attack ads. Another group is just releasing an ad mocking McCain’s age.

Will Obama ask these “minions” to stop running the ads (the excuse “one was a Party ad and the others are independent” is a poor excues). If they don’t cease, will reporters ask Obama why, if he can’t control them (finish sentence quoting Obama’s words back to him).

On another topic - this ‘toon is the stuff of great political cartoons. Hillary on Bill’s shoulders was a great symbolic touch.

By Goldie

April 24, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Jasper @ 8:19 — you may notice that Obama looks “white” in the ‘toon as well… maybe Lucko is saying that skin color is a non-issue.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

CREDIBILITY

By bob

April 24, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

The DOT scandals has hung a scarlet (ohara) letter around Gena Abraham’s pretty neck. Frankly, I’m not sure that’s fair to her.

Friends, Rome-Georgians, Countrymen, lend me your ears. I blog to narry tease her but to gaze at her. The evil women do is oft inferred when they’re boned. The noble Evans hath said she was trampalicious, and Evans is an honorable man. If it is so, is it a grievous fault, and should she grievously answer for it?

(the only thing this scandal lacks is the supply room footage on Utube.)

By Goldie

April 24, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 9:44— me, too… I’ve been LMAO all morning about Hillary being up on Bill’s shoulders in the ‘toon! That’s the only way she got elected to the NY Senate seat, and the only way she’s gotten this far in her campaign. Imagine if she had run for her NY Senate seat as just a lawyer named Rodham, without having Bill’s shoulders to get up on. She might have been elected based on her own accomplishments, but who knows???

By mm

April 24, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Yes, Duh, you show your hate for America again today.

You cheer on a war mongering president, and you want a peace brokering president jailed.

Imagaine the improved situation in the middle east if Bush & Co would have had talks with Hamas, Iran, and Syria.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

IThN 9:50

Well, I’ve always thought - when one doesn’t want to do something, one excuse is as good as another.

Off to pay a visit to a patient in the hospital -

Later

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

If Jenna Bush continues, in her mother’s and grandmother’s tradition, to promote literacy, then she, like they, will have accomplished more for the commonweal than Hillary Clinton ever has done.

By LC

April 24, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

whadda bunch of dopes dems are! did you idiots see all the white faces behind barack during his pa concession speech? did you see the black faces behind clinton? its all campaign window dressing. the windows are broken in the dem party. americans are looking through the broken panes. deplorable! the librul left needs to moveon out to see. there is no room for extremes in america’s house.

By bob harper

April 24, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

i find it odd that you of all people give obama his pass, (NO PUN INTENDED)as the media has done through out the campaign.why? i just can not understand how a cartoonist can be so sactimonious!at least neal is not afraid to tell it.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

McCain Tax Plan Gives Nothing To Families In Poverty

By AJC Management

April 24, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

{{{{“Democrats have a common-sense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices by cracking down on price-gouging; rolling back the billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, tax breaks and royalty relief given to big oil and gas companies; and increasing production of alternative fuels,” Pelosi wrote back in April 2006, as part of her efforts to convince Americans to elect Democrats.}}}}

{{{{How’s that working for you? As the chart below shows, the cost of energy — measured by the price of West Texas Intermediate crude — is up more than 70%.}}}}

{{{{Under Pelosi’s “common-sense plan,” Congress has achieved nothing. Actually, less than nothing, considering that what little has been done has hurt, rather than helped the U.S. to become more self-sufficient. This year alone, we’ll spend $431 billion to buy 3.7 billion barrels of imported oil to run our economy. And in so doing, we are enriching some of the world’s most unsavory regimes.}}}}

{{{{Democrats have focused instead on an insane global warming plan that would cost $1.2 trillion. Subsidies and other breaks for biofuels have helped send food prices soaring.}}}}

It’s called the “dimokrat’s with their heads up their as-s” plan.

And guess who gets to pay.

When are we going to learn our lesson?

By AmVet

April 24, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

“there is no room for extremes in america’s house.”

That is not really true, especially given the past seven plus years of some of the most inane and intensely bitter, spiteful and malicious extremism in American political history.

Yet I believe the point is valid as evidenced by the enormous numbers of voters fleeing the wing-nut dominated GOP AND the Democratic far left.

AND this absolute wrecking of the GOP by the bumbling, deadly neo-cons does bode well for America, as the partisans on BOTH sides will get further marginalized by the fed up reasoned and reasonable center.

Certainly no clairvoyant, and primarily due to arguably the worst Presidency in American history, I see a second straight Republican massacre coming soon.

As it should be…

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Bosch, when you lead your young wards out of the Academy, as it were, and onto the sunny slopes of Leikeon—-illustrating, as Plato did, that learning knows no bounds—-what do your Anglicans think of your doing so?

By Tom A

April 24, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

What’s funny is a cartoonist inserting Barack Obama into the White House as if he were somehow entitled to it with the Democratic Primary far from over, who, by the way is not winning the major primaries, and who would probably not fair well in the general election against McCain. Mike’s war against Senator Clinton is really getting pathetic.

By AmVet

April 24, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Veterans need your help.

This week, Senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Richard Burr offered a watered-down substitute to the 21st Century GI Bill, which was introduced by Senators Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel.

The Post 9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act (S.22), the Webb-Hagel bill, now has 57 supporters in the Senate, from both sides of the aisle. With three more supporters, this bill would be filibuster-proof, and guaranteed to get to the President’s desk. Senator McCain’s bill could split the Senate, undermining the common-sense legislation that Senators Webb and Hagel offered. In doing so, it also undermines America’s veterans.

Here’s how.

1) The McCain-Graham-Burr legislation creates a flat education benefit, not taking into account the cost of state colleges where veterans live. This would mean veterans in states where the cost of education is higher than the benefit would have go to into debt to get an education, or uproot themselves and their families to move to a place where the benefit would cover college. In many cases, the McCain bill won’t even cover half the cost of college. The Webb-Hagel Bill determines the education benefit based on the highest state college tuition in a veterans’ home state, allowing veterans to come home and attend college, without upheaval in their lives.

2) The McCain-Graham-Burr legislation creates second-class veterans, by offering those who serve in the military for 12 years the chance to transfer their education benefits to their children. This says to a veteran who serves for two years and loses both of his legs in combat that his service isn’t as valuable as someone who has served for longer.

3) The McCain-Graham-Burr legislation leaves the National Guard and Reserve out in the cold. In the current conflicts, the National Guard and Reserve have served faithfully alongside their active duty compatriots, and deserve equal benefits. Yet, the McCain bill does nothing to reward our Guard and Reservists for their cumulative service. Under the McCain bill, over 160,000 members of the Guard and Reserves who have done more than one tour in Iraq or Afghanistan would get no credit towards an education for their additional sacrifice.

WRITE YOUR SENATORS AND TELL THEM THE MCCAIN BILL IS UNACCEPTABLE.

By bob

April 24, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

THe DOT scandal has hung a scarlet (ohara) letter around Gena Abraham’s pretty neck. Frankly, I dont think it’s fair.

Friends, Rome-Georgians, Countrymen, lend me your ears! I blog to narry tease her, but to gaze at her. The evil women do is oft inferred when they’re boned. So let the media sleaze her? The noble Evans has told us she is trampalicious, and Evans is an honorable man. Is this a grievous fault and grievously should she answer for it?

Oh Judgement! Thou are fled to pertish breasts and men have lost their reason over bare TT’s.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

10:27

CREDIBILITY???

By LisaS

April 24, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

“Hillary-ous!” LOL

By Goldie

April 24, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

The Clintons’ big-state primaries argument is total Bull-doody…

First, most of the “big states” that the Clintons have won in the primary race will be a BLUE state in November, no matter who the Dem nominee is. Second, the primary race itself has NOTHING to do with who will win against McBush in the General Election. As Plato once said, “that’s apples & oranges”!

By truthman

April 24, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

AmVet,

I copied your McCain-Graham-Burr message and forwarded it to a lot of my contacts.

The disrespect our veterans have to endure - Bush certainly could care less for them, and Cheney - you’d think McCain would take a more procative approach being a Vet, but, since all his care is paid for by us, I guess he just doesn’t care about his fellow vets.

There is not enough money on earth to repay our veterans for the sacrifices they make! I challenge ANYONE to argue otherwise!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

BE A FASHION ICON

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

FACT SHEET: Military record of John Sidney McCain III

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Glenn,

They like it.

Episcopalians are a varied group. You’ve got your extreme conservatives who are leaving because of the gay bishop scandal - but yet, the weird thing, at least to me, is that some of these congregations have called upon the African bishop leadership to “be over” them instead - now, some of these African bishops, practice polygamy. I don’t know if any of the bishops that have agreed to take in these “rogue” congregations are polygamists, but it certainly interesting that these congregations left the church because of their views of homosexuality, but some how polygamy is okay with them.

Then you’ve got your folks like me - who go to church for spiritual fulfillment, I like the liturgy (and the garb the priests wear - and the incense), I think Paul said this last night, it keeps your mind centered, and I like the fact that I can believe what I want without anyone telling me I’m going to hell. I think it’s all metaphor. Now, I do believe in “God,” but not the traditional “old dude in heaven” way most believe, and Jesus was just alright with me - I like what he had to say. It doesn’t matter to me if he rose from the dead or not, I think it’s kind of gross actually to think about dead people coming back to life, but that’s just me. The guy had a good message, and that’s what I stick with. All that other stuff? I simply do not care.

I hope that helped.

By AmVet

April 24, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

truthman, thank you.

And well said…

By norman ravitch

April 24, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Barack’s woes come down to this: anti-black racism. It is not surprising and we have been so naive to think otherwise. Americans just do not feel happy seeing Michelle Obama’s big bare black feet on the White House carpet, period!

If Obama were to win in Nov. we should have reached a real milestone. If he loses, as is likely, we shall have our naivete revealed. I bet the Democratic leaders wish they had held him off at the pass months ago with a posse led by a white male like Biden or Dodd. Why, they are asking, did we allow a choice between a lying witch like Clinton and a black man like Obama? Why indeed?

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

Israel is the only country we supply aid to (around $5 billion/year the last I read) that does not have to account for what they do with it.

I couldn’t agreed with your post @11:39 more if I wrote it myself (but your a much better writer than me, so well done, and amen).

By truthman

April 24, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

CIA has 7,000 documents pertainint to rendition, detention, torture programs, filings show.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/CIAhas7000documentsrelatingto0423.html

I’m sure there is a reasonable explanation for all of this, isn’t there Andi/Devil/Mismanagement/RW/@@/Shawny/Devas”tater?”

Bush lies! Condi lies! Cheney lies! Wolfonitwitz lies! Rummy lies! And lots of innocents die!!

By truthman

April 24, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Another scandal to remember when you head to the polls in November:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/AnunwelcomevisitforoneGOP0424.html

And, please, don’t forget Terry Schiavo and what the Repugs did to her and her husband!!

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 24, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

-=-

McCain makes Jane Fonda look good there - lol

-=-

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Oh and Glenn,

I forgot something earlier -

I don’t think you have to go to church to find God. But if you find one that you like, it certainly helps to have a community you can feel comfortable in, at least it does for me. But belief me, I’ve “found God” in some really interesting places. In many ways, I’m closer to my “church family” more than my real family (except my mom and dad - mom, whose a fundamentalist, and dad, whose agnostic).

When my mom visits my church, she’s totally lost and she spends the whole time asking me, “why do you do that? what’s that mean? It’s Christmas, why aren’t y’all singing Christmas songs? I tell her we like Advent songs better :-) - then I have to remind her that Christmas doesn’t start in our world until Christmas Eve, and no, we don’t put red candles in Advent Wreaths.

By truthman

April 24, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

OK ladies, McCain voted against an equal pay bill because he’s “afraid it will lead to more lawsuits!”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/23/mccain-opposes-equal-pay-n98342.html

Guess it’s OK that his wife make a boat-load more than he!!

Ladies! Had enough!?!

By truthman

April 24, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Not even Jenna Bush is going to vote for McCain…she’s voting Democrat!!

Bwahahahahahaha!!!

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

ITN,

I liked what Jimmy Carter wrote about the legitimacy of Hamas -

Some feel that my meeting with Hamas legitimized them, but their legitimacy came when a plurality of the Palestinian people voted for them in the 2006 elections

I guess some people don’t like actual democracy.

By Jesus

April 24, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By truthman

April 24, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

More from McClueless’s version of Rev. Wright:

“John Hagee continues to blame the people of New Orleans for the catastrophe of Katrina. Senator McCain: If you reject intolerance and bigotry, reject Hagee’s political support and stop courting hate-mongers like him.”

This is not a gaffe or a “gotcha.” Hagee has a history of bigoted comments and he stood by his New Orleans remarks just days ago.2 And McCain’s strategy is intentional—he’s been working hard to court far-right leaders like Jerry Falwell and John Hagee, despite their hateful views.3 Even when he was pressed about Hagee’s hateful views, McCain said he was “glad to have his endorsement.”4

Hagee’s words matter. Katrina was a terrible reminder of the consequences of bigotry and exclusion. People without resources, without political power, literally sank beneath the waves while our government did nothing.

John McCain is relying for political support on a man who preaches bigotry and exclusion, who spreads the kind of hate that allowed Katrina to become a man-made tragedy. While the media is focused on his New Orleans visit, we need to call him on it.

Hagee is 10 times worse than Rev. Wright, who has legitmate gripes that us white folk will never understand.

Hagee is a Nazi-creationist, christo-fascist!!

By Goldie

April 24, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

truthman @ 12:17 — I do believe that McBush has a real “reverend problem” with Hagee, who once called Catholicism “the Great W*******”… and McBush very actively sought Hagee’s endorsement a few months ago. Dontcha think maybe a few Catholics might be offended by McBush’s revered reverend???

By Goldie

April 24, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Bosch @ 12:10 — and like Dubya really knew what he was talking about when he kept repeating that he wanted to “spread democracy” all over the world…

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

“Nazi-creationist, christo-fascist”

LOL! That’s a good one.

Goldie,

Can I get an amen, sister? AMEN!!!

By getalife

April 24, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Mike and the AJC drank the kool aid.

The tide has turned.

You are going to look very foolish if the supers give it to Clinton.

I think Clinton will make an ad on mcwars vote against women to get gop women to vote for her.

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Bosch, it helps to know that they liked your tactics, yes. So thank you for that.

My sense of relationship to the institutional church is identical to your (quite Wesleyan) view. But once I’ve affiliated and vowed, as a traditionalist I have a very hard time rejecting authority. I do it, and have done all my life, but I hate doing it and do it more sheepishly than you perhaps could imagine. (But at least I do it as a sheep and not as a goat.)

I hadn’t really wanted to prise open theological issues per se, but even wearing my anthro headdress the African polygamy issue seems a no-brainer. Homosexuality, not so. It’s an exceedingly subtle matter, and I respect the Anglican Communion for doing more worldwide to grapple with it than any other limb of the Body has done. It seems to me that both the polygamous episcopate issue and the ordained homosexuality issue resolve in the notion of marriage as divinely licensed sin, justified as for the right relation to the Divine. But that’s for another blog, presumably. (Is there a John Donne blog, I wonder?)

I don’t want to church-shop; don’t want to cherry-pick a doctrine or play parish critic; just want to do my thing with others doing theirs roughly in the same direction, and help bring the young ones along for their good company.

(On sin, BTW. It’s because of that alleged, originary stigma that it does indeed matter, especially to the Orthodox Church, whether the bodily Resurrection actually occurred. But I’m a fideist, so there you go…)

By Paul

April 24, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Goldie 9:55

“Hilary would have gotten elected to the Senate if her last name wasn’t Clinton. She’d have run on her accomplishments.”

Now, THAT was funny! But hey, if you have an advantage, press it!

IThN 10:25

“McCain Tax Plan Gives Nothing to Families in Poverty.”

The chart shows a single parent with a child earning $12,000 a year gets zero tax cut. A couple with two kids making $24,000 a year gets zero tax cut.

Stay with me on this… they get zero tax cut…. because… they don’t pay any taxes!! You can’t get a cut in the taxes you pay if you don’t pay any to begin with!!!

In the words of our resident bard, sheez.

AJC Management 10:27

It’s the idea that Spkr Pelosi actually believes she can “control” oil prices to predetermined levels, long-term, that’s really sobering.

IThN 11:19

McCain’s service record: So your sources allege the N Vietnamese gave preferential medical treatment to Sen McCain (broken arms, leg, other injuries, untreated for days) because of his father’s rank (was this between torture sessions?).

That’s getting pretty despicable, even for your sources.

On another note: weren’t you the one who said torture never works?

N-GA 11:39

Krauthammer’s latest column makes the case Hillary was ill advised to extend America’s nuclear deterrence umbrella to several Arab states (not just Israel). Gotta keep the oil flowing, I suppose. I suppose to be consistent we should cut off all aid to any state in the region.

Truthman 12:06

Democratic Majority Leader Reid voted against the bill. LOL! Of course, there’s more to the story, but if the previous posts about McCain are a guide, reasons are irrelevant. (BTW – if you’re referring to the vote that took place yesterday, McCain didn’t vote).

Truthman 12:09

Kids. Whadda ya gonna do?

Bosch 12:10

A Hamas spokesman said Hamas didn’t promise anything. He also said that just by meeting with them, Hamas gave them legitimacy. One has to keep in mind the perceptions others have of a situation do not necessarily mirror our perceptions.

A Hamas spokesman said Carter gave them legitimacy simply by meeting with them. There are large issues at play. He also said Hamas made no promises to Pres Carter.

By getalife

April 24, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

“Democrats worry Obama won’t be able to win in November

It is the question that has hung over Senator Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, and it loomed large on Tuesday night after his loss to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in Pennsylvania: Why has he been unable to win over enough working-class and white voters to wrap up the Democratic nomination?”

The choice is clear.

Clinton wins the general easily.

Its a no brainer for the supers.

By AJC Management

April 24, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

{{{{By norman ravitch April 24, 2008 11:46 AM Barack’s woes come down to this: anti-black racism. It is not surprising and we have been so naive to think otherwise. Americans just do not feel happy seeing Michelle Obama’s big bare black feet on the White House carpet, period!}}}}

numbnuts ravaged: I completely agree with you, judging from the results of the PA primary voting it appears that you dimokrats are a bunch of klanners, white power goons and bigots.

Thanks for pointing this out.

By @@

April 24, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

I know this is one of those topics that liberals would rather avoid, but since there’s “big profit” involved I thought maybe…..

Abortion is used almost exclusively as a method of birth control. Nationwide, 99 percent of all abortions nationwide are performed only for this one purpose. According to the South Dakota Department of Health, 748 abortions were performed in South Dakota in 2006. Only three abortions, or 0.4 percent, were the result of rape or incest, and 11 abortions, or 1.5 percent, were performed because of danger to the mother’s health. The other 633 abortions, or 84 percent, were the result of the mother’s desire not to have the child, a percentage that has consistently gone up from 64 percent in 2002.

Abortion has become a lucrative business. During the 2005-2006 fiscal year, Planned Parenthood performed a record 264,943 abortions, reporting a profit of $55.8 million while receiving $305 million in taxpayer-funded subsidies. It is little wonder that Planned Parenthood has no vested interest in offering sonograms or ultrasounds to its patients, potentially cutting into their profits and bottom line.

Are the liberals here going to scream about ^^^ THAT PROFIT?

Disgusting!

Martin Luther King Jr. said, “Any success achieved at the expense of our children is no success.”

By Qualcom Investor

April 24, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

QQ, abortion is just one area where you and I intersect.

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Does anybody else find it curious that the vast majority of the cosponsors that have signed on to S-22 very recently are Democrats?

Sounds like they’re using our troops as political pawns again.

By AmVet

April 24, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

@@, as regards abortion on demand, what would you recommend as an alternative?

By mm

April 24, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Day after day you drone on about Hillary.

Think about this. For the last 8 years the GOP has tried to suppress the Democrat vote in numerous ways.

Do you really think the superdelegates will ignore the fact that Obama won the most states, the most popular votes, and the most delegates? Do you really think they want to send the message to democratic voters that their vote doesn’t matter to them? Talk about political suicide in November (and beyond).

Not a good idea to have democratic voters thinking that the GOP doesn’t want them to vote and the Democrats don’t want to count their vote. Choosing Hillary would be eerily similar to the Supreme Court giving the election to Bush in 2000. Even worse. At least in 2000 the actual result was never determined. Not a good thing.

ML,

This cartoon is brilliant by the way. The writing is on the wall but she won’t give up.

By Office of the Motherland

April 24, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Please be advised of a temporary ban.

Effective immediately individual purchases of rice in the US have been suspended until further notice.

As part of our recent acquisition of the US we are invoking our option to purchase all of the rice produced in the United States.

Thank You,

China

By @@

April 24, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

AmVet:

Adoption dammit! Giuliani was successful in decreasing abortions, and increasing adoptions in New York by simplifying the adoption laws. Why do all the hollywood liberals go to foreign countries to adopt their babies? Are America’s babies not fashionable enough for them?

Since infertility is on the rise, adoption makes perfect sense.

By MomCat

April 24, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

By @@ April 24, 2008 12:58 PM I know this is one of those topics that liberals would rather avoid, but since there’s “big profit” involved I thought maybe……….. Abortion is used almost exclusively as a method of birth control…….. NAre the liberals here going to scream about ^^^ THAT PROFIT?.. Disgusting!

It’s too early in the day to be nipping at the cooking sherry @@. I know this is something the self appointed moral authorities (R’s) don’t like to hear, but why didn’t the R’s do something when they had control of EVERYTHING until the last election. PULease. Until the last election they’d had control of the House since ‘94, the senate since 2002, then they got the Supreme Court, then an R president. Heck, they coulda passed ANYTHING they chose to. I’ll tell you why they didn’t. It was not politically advantageous to do so. Perhaps if they will go ahead and take steps to do away with abortion except in situations such as life or health of mother or child, rape, incest etc. etc., we can get on with some other issues that need attention. The economy comes to mind , along with shoring up social security, improvement of the lousy prescription drug plans for the elderly, health care and education for the nations children, stopping a war that never shoulda happened. Whatcha think? I’ll bet if the R’s gain control of everything (again), they’ll do just that! Yea rite. When pigs fly.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Webb’s bill has 51 co-sponsors, including nine Republicans. Webb, a former secretary of the Navy, said he may have to get 60 co-sponsors to ensure Senate passage, but then added that many more Republicans could vote for the bill if McCain endorsed it.

DAMN THOSE NINE REPUBLICANS FOR USING OUR TROOPS AS POLITICAL PAWNS.

AND EXTRA DOUBLE DAMN THAT VETERAN JIM WEBB FOR STARTING ALL THIS MESS THAT USES OUR TROOPS AS POLITICAL PAWNS

AND SUPER SECRET SPECIAL WHAMMY DAMN FOR THE IAVA VETERANS FOR SUPPORTING SOMETHING THAT MAKES THERE FELLOWS POLITICAL PAWNS

WHO’S DAMNING WHO?

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

MomCat,

It’s interesting to see someone making the argument that Republicans had control of EVERYTHING even as many that share your politics are whining that they don’t really control the Senate because of the slim majority. Do you know what the Republican majority was?

That being said, your argument for why Republicans didn’t do something to end abortion on demand is wrong. Most true conservatives don’t want the Federal government making that decision, nor do they want the Federal government making abortion on demand the law of the land. There’s a reason we’re called the United STATES of America.

By AmVet

April 24, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

@@, much as I wish it would solve the problem too, that singular approach seems so utterly unrealistic.

There are approximately 1.6 million abortions per year in the US.

In 2001 there were approximately 127,500 total adoptions in the US, of which 15% were intercountry. (I suppose you could force Americas to adopt American babies only, but that seems rather Draconian, no?)

That means we would have to raise the adoption rate by a factor of 12.5!

In other words for every adoption now, there would need to be a dozen more to account for all of those unwanted children.

Just seems so very unlikely…

By getalife

April 24, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Wright admits Obama is just another lying politician

I tried to tell you but you are drunk on his kool aid.

Can you hear me know?

By Dr Kildare

April 24, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

(((A recent poll of doctors that performed abortions found that 89% identified as being Republican.

That was slightly higher than the total for all doctors. 81% of all doctors claimed to be Republican, 15% said they were Democrats.))))

By MomCat

April 24, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

By @@ April 24, 2008 1:37 PM AmVet: Adoption dammit!Why do all the hollywood liberals go to foreign countries to adopt their babies? Are America’s babies not fashionable enough for them?

Adoption is an alternative. Also amazing to me is failure to utilize birth control methods available. Any young person old enough to propogate should know how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. ‘Course we have some dimwits who seem to think birth control should be outlawed. Some pharmacists I understand have a problem providing ‘the pill.’ Get rid of them (pharmacists). If they can’t fill a prescription with a drug that’s legally prescribed, they don’t need to be licensed. Some more right wing bruhaha. These are the same folks who think their son or daughter will go away to college, and return 6 years later with a MS, or a PHD and their virginity still intact. Possibly in rare situations, but usually only if they are physically ill, mentally disturbed, incarcerated most of the time, or just ugly as a mud fence.

By AmVet

April 24, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

ITN, re your 1:51.

Consider the source…

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

AmVet

I am consoled that RW (et al)- as he so very frequently posted - won’t be voting for John McCain!

By N-GA

April 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Why should we cut off aid to all states in the region. It is israel that has held Palestinian land since 1967. It is the United Nations (and most of the world) who demands those lands be returned. Perhaps you are one who believes that Israel’s refusal to return those lands has absolutely nothing to do with Muslim attitudes and Middle East unrest. Then there are those who simply don’t care one way or another.

The modern state of Israel was born from “terrorism”. And its terrorists are honored in books, museums, and shrines. You would have thought the Palestinians had more to gain by throwing the British out of the Protectorate than the Jews.

I wonder if Americans will ever understand how long the Palestinians (and their sympathizers) will remember this injustice?

By MomCat

April 24, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) April 24, 2008 2:03 PM Most true conservatives don’t want the Federal government making that decision, nor do they want the Federal government making abortion on demand the law of the land. There’s a reason we’re called the United STATES of America.

Yep, RW they had a majority, also controlled most state houses and state senates, as well as the majority of governors. They could have won a vote to remove the State of Georgia or any other state from the good old U S of A if they chose. From a personal standpoint, I don’t believe in abortion on demand, but that’s me. I’m simply sick of this issue being used as a political hot point to get votes. DO AWAY WITH IT and get on with other issues I mentioned earlier.

By @@

April 24, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

AmVet:

I realize that I’ve oversimplified the abortion issue. I’ve also said that I would never actively pursue the overturning the !?!federal!?! statute. I’d accept a majority vote at the state level. I could always move to a state who abolished if I so choose.

The progression that abortion legislation has taken has gone too far. Look at the reason it was implemented, and look at where it’s taken us. The ban on late-term abortions was a step in the right direction, but look how many liberals (Obama included) were opposed to it for fear that the ban would impact all abortions.

I stopped by my church yesterday after work to drop off some coffee cups. Our church’s facilities are used for our school district’s ChildTech Program. I like to play with the babies when I’m there.

I asked the staffers how many of the girls had graduated this year. They answered that if it had not been for the young mother (17), who was stabbed to death by her boyfriend, the baby’s father, the total would have been ??. HE STABBED HER TO DEATH WHILE SHE HELD THEIR BABY!

What the heck is wrong with this society?

This was a young black girl who had succeeded against all odds, and was ready to graduate HS. She ends up dead, he ends up in prison, and the baby ends up orphaned.

And now we’ve got Momcat proclaiming that the only teenage girls and young women who aren’t PRIVILEGED enough to have promiscuous sex are the UGLY, PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY IMPAIRED.

Way to go Mom!

I would never vote to deprive anyone of birth control, but neither would I promote promiscuous sex.

The pharmacist issue is easily remedied. Make it a requirement of employment. The pill can be made available through local health departments.

I’m outta here till later.

By truthman

April 24, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

“McCain’s televangelist ally believes God damns America!”

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15313.html

What a great guy!!

Why can McCain have a hateful preacher, but not Obama?

Mendacity!

By MomCat

April 24, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

By @@ April 24, 2008 2:43 PM And now we’ve got Momcat proclaiming that the only teenage girls and young women who aren’t PRIVILEGED enough to have promiscuous sex are the UGLY, PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY IMPAIRED.Way to go Mom! I would never vote to deprive anyone of birth control, but neither would I promote promiscuous sex. The pharmacist issue is easily remedied. Make it a requirement of employment. The pill can be made available through local health departments.

Whee! @@ you are a trip today. What a lie! I did NOT say only teenaged girls who aren’t priviledged enough to have promiscuous sex were the ugly etc. etc. 1. I said it was not LIKELY a young person (rich, poor, young) will reach the age of 24-25 without sex with SOMEONE. Hopefully it will be SOMEONE the person loves.
2. My point was that ANYONE old enough to ‘get involved’ should have access to birth control!!! 3. NO, in no way did I indicate that I approve of being promiscuous. I DO NOT APPROVE OF BEING PROMISCUOUS. I believe in responsibility!!! Please read what I posted before pontificating and deliberating. 4. I too think the pharmacy issue could be easily solved. Don’t issue a license to that person!!! Enough said about this craziness.

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Hamas does not NEED to make promises to President Carter, because President Carter can not guarantee anything. He does not speak for the United States.

Did you read that trip report I linked earlier? Good stuff. True American hero.

Of course we need to realize the bigger issues here, and of course we need to realize other perspectives. You must not have been around Tuesday when I was going head to head with Dusty about this issue.

Statistics I’ve seen lately, there are 450,000 settlers illegally living in Occupied Palestinian territory, their lands get smaller and smaller. The roads lead the no where, they are very limited in their mobility - I’d be horribly frustrated too and might just start thinking about flinging a bomb or two myself.

N-GA,

The patience of the Arabs and jihadists will never be understood by Americans - a group of people who vote more for who wins a TV show than for President.

Our leaders think we are winning because the violence is down - violence down = success. I’ve always said that we’ve done what Iran couldn’t do by getting rid of Saddam, and we have, as it seems now, given Iraq over to Iran. They were at war with each other only 20 years ago, that time frame is nothing to them. Or we stay and protect them from the violent onslaught that will surely happen when we leave. What a quagmire indeed.

Critics of Carter scream that talking is wasted and futile, I guess their answer is to just keep bombing the sh!t out of each other until what? Armageddon? The Rapture comes? I simply do not understand their “logic.”

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 24, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

-=-

In The News —-

Republicans don’t want to be confused by the facts — it hurts their delusions of Granduer. Not to mention it makes their head hurt.

Nor do they care to learn anything scholastic, just give them beer and the football score and that’s all the education they ever need.

And I seriously doubt they will ever care about pollution, the environment, the degredation of bio-diversity, and heaven forbid anything worthwhile for mankind that may take money out of their banks and monopolies.

And that constitution thingy is fine as long as they don’t have to really abide by what it means to grant poor people (individual) rights.

Oh and just for the record.. Don’t ever tell them their wrong, because thats when they throw spin garbage and junk science at you until they bury you in garbage.

Cheers’ and thanks for the links InTN….

By mm

April 24, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Notice how the wingnuts on this blog change the subject to meaningless issues to turn your attention away from the real issues, the issues they don’t know how to solve. Just like their counterparts in congress and the WH.

Why do you wingnuts care so much about saving fetuses? You don’t care what happens to them after they are born.

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Thomas/PNAC,

I just had a funny thought when you mentioned the Constitution.

Did you see Pirates of the Caribbean? When they were talking about the Pirates’ Code - “well, they’re more like GUIDELINES anyway”

That’s how I feel Bush & Co. regard the Constitution - just mere GUIDELINES.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

N-GA 2:32

@@ had a link yesterday - Stratfor article over how many countries set national policy as if the unthinkable were thinkable as their realization would be ruinous. One can understand why the Israelis would be a bit skittish with Hamas. Democratically elected Hamas calling for their destruction and all -

Dem candidates just got asked in the last debate if the US should extend our nuclear deterrence umbrella to Israel and respond in kind if Iran nuked ‘em. Obama said “appropriate” and Hillary said “massively.” (She also said let’s include the Saudis and a few others while we’re at it). Nary a peep in protest from the Left. Amazing. I know, mixes an Iranian possibility with our discussion of a Palestinian issue. But the point is it illustrates a mindset.

UN action in the establishment of Israel as terrorism. Now there’s an interesting thought.

You know me - I think there’s rarely a single, solitary “reason” for many things. Same with Muslim antipathy towards the US. For some it’s the Palestinian issue. For others pure ideology. For others it’s a weird mix of scapegoating, national shortcomings, reaction to hedonism, and a few other isms. Or a combination of all of the above.

Just a small point - Israel has traded land captured in 1967 for peace - Egypt and the Sinai are prime examples. Of course, the situation with Egypt is a bit different than with some other Arab states/govts/organizations. Jordan, too. They withdrew most of their West Bank claims and signed a peace treaty.

I think both sides share responsibility for the current situation; however, Israel has demonstrated willingness to withdraw in exchange for security guarantees from responsible governments. Hamas doesn’t seem to be in the same league as Egypt and Jordan, yet.

How long will they remember? I think many, many peoples in that part of the world have very long memories. Irrationally so. And that’s part of the problem.

IThN 2:39

Notice the huge, massive, unprecedented protest Syria made after the attack? Same for the utter , whithering condemnation Israel received from the Arab world? No? You didn’t? That’s right.

You do see the problem, don’t you? Of course, realizing that would not be “Bush/US bad, everyone else good” now, would it?

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

little newsie namejacker,

This is likely over your head, but the early cosponsors of S 22 probably truly believe in it and may want to see it get to the floor where it can get debated and amended. The johnny come latelys are almost all liberal Democrats that are using our military as political pawns in that they would like to use S 22 as a bludgeon against Republicans and could care less if it passes or not and they would like to see it come to the floor now in it’s current form with virtually no debate because the bill as written would gut the military.

All you have to do is find some doctor that will say you have some stressful condition you didn’t have when you enlisted, regardless of how long you’ve been in, and presto!! You get a four year college education complete with a two bedroom townhouse and a grand a month spending cash. Can you say PBTSD?

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

“That’s how I feel Bush & Co. regard the Constitution - just mere GUIDELINES.”

And the AJC. Don’t forget the AJC, Bosch…

By truthman

April 24, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

“People for a nuked Amerikan Century:”

You forgot “American Idol” and “Dancing with the Stars.”

By Paul

April 24, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

truthman 2:53

Doesn’t that sort of post just encourage and perpetuate the continuation of the Obama/Wright nonsense?

IThN 2:59

Thanks for maintaining the record. I try to find at least one post/link each day with which I substantially agree, even if the rhetoric is a bit over the top. This post was remarkably under the top.

Bosch 3:12

I think the Israelis made some huge mistakes with their settler policy. But correcting those mistakes have ended political careers over there.

Of course Pres Carter was not a US envoy - but that distinction is lost on many over there. But did I not recall Pres Carter saying Hamas did make promises?

Not my original source - but the first Google link - and I like the “Hamas has confounded observers” line.

Link: Hamas

“Carter, who delivered a speech in Jerusalem Monday summing up his visit, said top Hamas leaders told him during seven hours of talks in Damascus over the weekend that they are willing to live next to Israel.

Hours later, however, Mashaal sent mixed messages. He stressed that while the militants would accept a state in the 1967 borders, meaning alongside Israel, the group would never outright recognize the Jewish state.”

It’s a tough situation. I think there are real questions about the ability of Hamas to enforce (future Israeli) agreements among their own people.

Oh, I fell asleep during Pirates of the Caribbean. Didn’t quite get it -

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Funny RW & Co - supporter of Bush Administration - attempting to lecture anybody on understanding!

Yep, IT has shown such excellent judgement to date…..

Yep, IT has shown such depth of understanding to date….

Yep, IT has backed the wrong horse for years - then attempted to jusify it for years…..and we are supposed to take him/them as credible!

TOO DAMN FUNNY

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Paul,

My kids PROMISE me all the time that they will clean up after themselves, I know they won’t do it, but I tell them too anyway. The point is, I keep trying.

I like this line:

“they are willing to live next to Israel”

Well, duh, where else are they gonna live?

I think Carter knew going in that Hamas wasn’t going to just say, “OH, okay, you win, we’ll recognize Israel now, and quit bombing them.”

Now to be over dramatic here, but you know what I mean.

Carter is doing a good thing. He’s forcing us to think about the other legitimate arguments, which is also a good thing.

How could you possibly fall asleep during Pirates? It’s PIRATES man! A real pirate movie! ARRGGGHHH and all that! And, am I mistaken, but wasn’t much of the same music from that movie also in Gladiator?

By No longer surprised

April 24, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Hillary is a fighter, yes she is. However, she is a fighter who loves to hit below the belt and if her rival doesn’t respond in kind, she says tells the voters he is not strong enough to fight for them. Despite Obama’s desire to run a cleaner campaign, it is impossible when the mud keeps flying. It’s a position that causes him to compromise his principles and to survive, he must sink to her level.

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

So much for it LIKELY being over lnn’s head. Never one to disappoint newsie goes to the keyboard and removes all doubt.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 24, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

RW/ANDI/DUH/MADASZELL/NOOSE/AJCMGMNT/RB/@@/BD

Oh you are my hero! One small man…..so many names.

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Speaking of lost distinctions, the difference between McCain’s endorsement by Pastor Hagee and Obama’s relationship to Rev. Wright’s teachings is the difference between OBL’s having endorsed John Kerry four years ago and John Edwards’ having endorsed him. And not only is the Wright controversy just beginning, the press hasn’t even gotten the story yet, because the press couldn’t fog a mirror just now. Obama has been very lucky so far, his sanctimonious protestations notwithstanding.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Bosch 4:05

Good point about raising awareness. I suppose the following could develop: Israel’s intransigent. Israel negotiates, signs peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan. Hamas/others are intransigent. Hamas concedes they can live together. Other Arab states/UN provide security guarantees. Palestinian borders established. People choose citizenship. Palestinian gov’t executes those conducting operations against Israel. Israel expands trade with Palestinians.

It’s generational, isn’t it?

But now: Pirates like Gladiator? Bosch: ARE YOU NUTS?

Oh, the music. Well, maybe…. But putting the same dress on Sarkozy’s wife as on… nevermind -

No longer surprised 4:08

Hillary does not “hit below the belt.”

Bill still smiles.

‘Nuff said.

By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) Loves Dikkk Cheney

April 24, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney!

Same with Nixon, same with Cavett, same with Trickle (love that NASCAR), same with Tracy even. Heckfire, I JUST LOVE - well, you know ;->

(Actually, IT(H)N, I consider myself a shemale. A rather large obscenely obese one at that.)

I’m not gay though. I’m whatever it is Larry Craig is. But go ahead - call me a f-ag. Pull my hair. I like it.

Kisses,

Andi (you can call me Duh, it’s what I call myself (it’s easy to say with my mouth full)).

By @@

April 24, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Momcat:

(((What a lie!)))

So? You like to stretch “it”….

who am I to judge?

(((Possibly in rare situations, (they will abstain) but usually only if they are physically ill, mentally disturbed, incarcerated most of the time, or just ugly as a mud fence.)))

Talk about a “post turtle”?

Now…..

enough said!

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

little newsie namejacker,

I recognize most of the names in your paranoiac delusional string of names, except “noose.” Who dat?

I noticed you weren’t around yesterday. Were you in New York beating up girls with Cerebral Palsy, by chance?

A man heckling First Lady Laura Bush and daughter Jenna outside the 92nd Street Y was arrested after he punched a wheelchair-bound girl whose parents has told him to shut up, authorities said yesterday. German Talis, 22, was shouting obscenities at the Bushes, who were leaving the building Tuesday, when he crossed paths with Wendy and John Lovetro and their daughter Maureen, 18, who has cerebral palsy.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Peoples for a Nuked

1987?!!?

If you look at the age differential, isn’t this, like, the scandal that Obama lied when he said he hadn’t always planned on running because his Kindergarten teacher said…

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

PNAC, could you give an example of some “mud” that’s been slung so far in this campaign?

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Paul,

If the Montagues and the Capulets can work things out, I mean, some people had to die and all - oh, nevermind, that wasn’t real.

Did the Hatfields and McCoys ever work things out?

In a weird mood, sorry, but I think you’re on to something about generational. 60 years is just simply not a long time in the Arab world. It’s kind of like the Ents (?sp)in Lord of the Rings - they take a LONGGGGG time to negotiate.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 24, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

-=-

Ahh Paul — yes I remeber those times — When my Savings & loan got gobbled up by SouthTrust (and thusly later by Wachovia) — But this is just one of the things that will dog Mc’Bush…

Speaking of mergers and takeovers —-

WendArbys’ is coming to a town near you!

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Check out the changes history on Thomas/Walt/PNAC’s 4:30 link

For a story from 1987 there sure are lots and lots of edits and on an almost daily basis. I’m sure there’s no funny business going on there.

By AJC Management

April 24, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

{{{{By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! April 24, 2008 3:14 PM And I seriously doubt they will ever care about pollution, the environment, the degredation of bio-diversity, and heaven forbid anything worthwhile for mankind that may take money out of their banks and monopolies.}}}}

Baby Killer: Oh yeah, I’m so sure that laying guilt on us over what might happen to the environment in hundreds of years from now is going to cause us to join you in your gleeful quest to slaughter innocent children by the millions.

You know, I detect a sicko longing in your comments to hurriedly begin denying the poor and needy of the world access to the very technologies that you hoard over like a pig, if they want access to hospitals or maybe just some electricity to keep them warm at night, F them, right, you already got yours, let them go pound sand, eh?

Sick. Mother. F, well, you know.

Sorry, but I’m not hoping aboard your genocide wagon.

By N-GA

April 24, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I guess you mean that a lot of Southerners have irrationally long memories about the War Between the States. Or perhaps American Indians and black Americans have irrationally long memories about past injustices.

Or maybe the Jews should have just stopped thinking about a land where they once lived thousands of years ago…then there may not be any problems over there?

But it has now been 41 years since the 1967 War, and an entire generation of Palestinians has been born, lived and died in refugee camps. Perhaps not as bad as the Holocaust, but certainly longer. I suspect the Cherokee and other relocated native American tribes can relate to that.

This subject is so broad….

By Paul

April 24, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

That story of a violent, anti-Bush demonstrator slugging a girl in a wheelchair was reported in the NY Post? How can it be credible?

If it were true, it’d be reported in Crooks and Liars, or Carpetbagger, or Daily Kos, or MoveOn.

Isn’t that right, IThN?

sorry… make that “isn’t that correct.” Can’t say “right” and maintain credibility.

Bosch

I understand the Hatfields and McCoys have reunions. Seems there’s a bit of marketing money in it.

Better not compare Ents to Muslims. Ents don’t wear clothes. You’ll start a riot.

I mentioned here once - I heard Cheney speak, years ago. Voiced concerns about the Kosovo thing. Said he was on a “tour” through the region, was walking in a town, heard noise in the distance. Came to the town square, there was a big demonstration. People chanting (he quipped it sounded like “Never Again” - a Jewish cry loaded with emotion - and his handler got concerned, said they needed to leave, now, because he was a foreigner. Cheney asked what they were chanting. Handler said it dealt with family members who’d been massacred by another religious group and it was vows of retaliation and revenge. Cheney asked when. Handler said it was 800 years ago.

By MomCat

April 24, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

By @@ April 24, 2008 4:35 PM So? You like to stretch “it”…. who am I to judge? (((Possibly in rare situations, (they will abstain) but usually only if they are physically ill, mentally disturbed, incarcerated most of the time, or just ugly as a mud fence.))

OK dearie. Have it your way. What are those pesky little things called ‘statistics’ indicating the percentage of young people who have an intimate relationship before they finish high school?…….And yes, @@ there is a lid for every pot, although for some it may be HARDER TO FIND A PERFECT FIT than for others. Adios amigos now. I’m off for a great week end! MEOW!

By @@

April 24, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

IN THE (Hussein) NEWS might find this Stratfor article interesting:

Israel, Syria and the Glaring Secret

but only if your mind is open to more than one possibility.

It’s so cool! I’m finding sites where I can link to Stratfor.

Off topic, but about our ChildTech program at church. One of the staffers was telling me about a child who is suspected to have autism. High frustration level when unable to communicate. I offered some suggestions…utilize the PEC System or simple signing accompanied by verbal.

This child was supposed to be evaluated by county personnel five months ago. They’re still waiting and can’t implement any communication program until they he’s evaluated.

THE SCHOOL YEAR IS ALMOST OVER! I guess the county has no problem in making babies wait.

Damn, that’s frustrating. I don’t work for the government schools. I’ll go over there after work and do it myself.

SCREW THE COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THEIR STUPID RULES.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Interesting first paragraph. My initial impression is yes, many (white) southerners have long memories about the “war of southern independence.?” Lots of African Americans and Native Americans, too. But one is, to me, some kind of fuzzy emotional longing for the past and the others are peoples who were horribly mistreated - with effects lingering today. Not unlike the Palestinians. Or Israelis, if one expands it a bit.

The subject of the camps is mind-boggling, difficult to conceive over here. Maybe it’s a misperception, but it seems Arab governments’ assistance to Palestinians on the issue largely consists of - not much other than condemning Israel or shipping arms.

I mentioned game theory the other day - each side going for less than optimum, keeping commitments, everybody wins whereas if both go for the max everyone loses. As Bosch observed, long memories. But Egypt: peace. Jordan: peace. Evolution of single state to two state solution.

Just as I wrote a couple years ago with Pakistan (and it has been implemented in Afghanistan with promising results) - maybe an assist would be establishment of universal, free education in the territories. Under UN jurisdiction. Nonideological. I’d pay a tax increase for that -

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

@@,

The county has many kids to evaluate, by professionals, qualified to make such evaluations.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 24, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

-=-

Huh did Andy say something? —

Something about how he likes nuking Iran (and babies)?

Or was it that he likes the KoolAid flavored DDT — That kills bio-diversity that may cost billions of human lives someday because of cures lost..

Not sure — hard to understand the random meanderings of the insane —-

-=-

RW — I just linked to the wiki link where that came from.. I have no idea what you are implying, but with proof? I doubt it!.

But here’s another for yah’ from the year 2000 to spin doctor and hack as you see fit

-=-

Glenn - I’m afraid Mudslinging has already been done on several fronts — it’s just polite mudslinging for now. The argument over what their preachers say is just plain stupid.

Free Speech is granted to the individual, and the right to believe in what you believe. What really matters in an election (that many people forget) is “can this person do the BEST job as President in doing what is right for this country’s citizens. Each and every one!

-=-

Cheers’

By @@

April 24, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

:-OMGoodness!

There’s a subscription discount to Stratfor offered at that “Outside the Box” site.

“Outside the Box”, that’s like not inside the fever swamps IT(H)NEWS.

Dang….things are lookin’ up.

By N-GA

April 24, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Next time you’re in D.C., go to the Holocaust Museum. Incredible! is the only word to describe the experience.

The “exhibit” was not designed solely as a visual experience. They also subtly stimulate you with sound and temperature. If you think you smell the terror, it might just be that your body is over-reacting. Then again, it could be the perspiration of the visitors around you…the reactions are that visceral.

By Buy Danish

April 24, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

Anyone want to argue that Barry O is not a lightweight rookie when it comes to foreign policy? Or does he just have the extraordinary bad luck to pick really bad advisors?

{{{Was North Korea helping Syria build a plutonium-producing reactor? The emerging consensus in the intelligence world is that it was. Indeed, the evidence, now including videotapes taken inside the facility before it was obliterated by Israeli jets last September 6, appears almost unequivocal.}}}

It is therefore fascinating — and disturbing — to recall the alacrity with which Joseph Cirincione, Barack Obama’s top expert on matters nuclear, the author of a book called the Bomb Scare, was so quick back in September to dismiss the report as “nonsense.”

{{{To Cirincione, writing on the blog of Foreign Policy Magazine, the Israeli strike and the stories surrounding it that North Korea was building a Yongbyong-type plutonium reactor not far from the Euphrates River, was nothing more than a lie. It was a reprise, wrote Cirincione, of the way in which administration officials “misled the press” in the run-up to the second Gulf war.}}}

Dang if it doesn’t sound like Cirincione gets his “facts” from ML’s blog.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Peoples for a Nuked 4:49

Point was, it was McCain and four Dems. Chief counsel urged clearing McCain. He got some sort of reprimand if I recall.

Sorry about your losses. But in contrast, that’s what I like about some of the statements I’ve heard about this mortgage crisis - McCain, I think? - make the people who profited pay it back. Forfeit the bonuses.

Past performance is no guarantee of future performance. For McCain. Or for Obama.

By @@

April 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

The PECS System, as well as signing accompanied by verbal has proven successful on typical children who are approaching communication age.

Moms are using it as a method to assist in communication.

Five months is too long. There’s no need to wait. What harm can there be in diminishing ANY child’s frustration level?

None.

The young mother is probably frustrated she’s had to wait so long. If SHE has a problem with it I’ll back off. If not, it’s full speed ahead. A lot can be accomplished in a month. It’s amazing the results.

I wonder how long you’d be willing to wait under government provided healthcare?

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Thomas/Walt/PNAC,

I’m not IMPLYING anything, I showed that there have been lots and lots of edits, which there have, and mused whether any funny business had been taking place. Almost assuredly it has and probably from both sides, but if you think you’re going to take down McCain over his barest of connections to the Keating Five, four of which were Democrats and only two were deemed to be heavily connected, you’re as delusional as little newsie namejacker with his stories of McCain receiving the First Class treatment at the Hanoi Hilton.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

N-GA 5:23

I will. Wife wants a trip there - so much to see - I’ve been lots, but it’ll go on the “to do” schedule.

I frankly avoided the museum when I was in Miami. Those sorts of things tend to affect me greatly. It’s not that I don’t want to understand - I was reading adult-level books on the topic when I was ten - but the visuals bring it home. Crashingly so.

By Bosch

April 24, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

@@,

I say go for it, if the mother wants it.

The unability to communicate is very frustrating - by anybody, anytime, anywhere.

My point earlier was an apple to apple statement. It’s not the government run schools’ fault, it’s the fact that there are a lot of children who need to be evaluated. It’s just as frustrating to the professionals who do these evaluations.

Many times parents must take matters into their own hands - I hope you can do some good for this child. Good luck.

By AJC Management

April 24, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Baby Killer: It was Bruno KKKlinton that said ahe would nuke Iran, moron.

Look, I know this is way over your skill level, but to cut back on the “production of carbon” it means that you have to like, well, cut back on the “production of carbon.”

This means that the current undeveloped countries will remain undeveloped, lest they should incur the wrath of jet setting, mansion dwelling energy pigs such as al-Gore.

I know you’re cushy up in your arrogant, pompous little world and consider suffering to be at it’s worst when you have to pay the doctor, instead of letting the government do it for you, but many, many people in the world have it much harder than selfish little you do, and as a consequence, have a higher death rate and a shorter life span.

I would hardly rate your elite boutique fears for the “polar bears” higher than not providing the needy access to the technologies that will improve their otherwise short and brutal existence.

But that’s just me, I guess.

P.S. Name one victim who died of DDT exposure, I’ll never post to this blog again.

Should be easy, according to you, shouldn’t it?

By The Devil You Say

April 24, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

What’s wrong with this one is that Obama cannot win according to the best latest analyses, even in pro-Obama Time Magazine. Hitlery is the better candidate, and she has negatives over 50%. The fact is that since the Civil War only three Democrats have ever won a majority of the popular vote, and one of those was FDR at the height of the Depression. They will lose again. They are the ‘minority’ party literally.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Devil You Say

This is America. Anything can happen.

:-)

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 24, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

-=-

Well RW —

You do imply things often — especially everytime you add Walt’s moniker to my name. (although frankly I always liked Walt’s post).

Seriously - the main thing I was saying is the Mudslinging is coming. And McCain will face a re-birth of questions coming about the money contributed to his campaign from his (note this) “Good close long time buddy” Keaton.

McCain’s Temper (tantrums) will be brought up, as well as votes on things like approval of Bush’s torture authorizations for the CIA.

Personally I kinda’ like McCain on many fronts, and I really think he was the best choice that the GOP could have fielded out that sorry bunch. But I don’t think I could ever vote for him as Presidential material.

My dilemna will be if Bob Barr does Run — as I may have to seriously consider that option. Personally I think with his new found idealism concerning constitutional matters makes Bob a very viable President.

Cheers

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

And Paul, don’t forget to hit the Museum Store for a memento mori or two on the way out! Send us a postcard, won’t you?

By N-GA

April 24, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Take that! Mr. Hugo Chavez.

I suspect that the primary purpose of this action is to send a clear message.

By AmVet

April 24, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Talk about pure, unadulterated bullsh!t and utter political nonsense:

{{{{The johnny come latelys are almost all liberal Democrats that are using our military as political pawns in that they would like to use S 22 as a bludgeon against Republicans and could care less if it passes or not…}}}}

Like some schmoe in Norcross would have a f&cking clue about this? As in providing a scintilla of evidence to support such a sophomoric assertion?

{{{{…and they would like to see it come to the floor now in it’s current form with virtually no debate because the bill as written would gut the military.}}}}

I already asked once for this chest-pounder to prove this obviously moronic statement.

Guess what?

Yep.

Nothing, nary, nilch, nada, zero.

{{{{All you have to do is find some doctor that will say you have some stressful condition you didn’t have when you enlisted, regardless of how long you’ve been in, and presto!! You get a four year college education complete with a two bedroom townhouse and a grand a month spending cash. Can you say PBTSD?}}}}

I’ll ask again for our sage of Norcross (who is apparently closer to the daily schemes and intrigues of the US Congress than even CSPAN) for even the tiniest shred of evidence that this is factual.

SUPPORT BUSH’S WAR, NOT THE TROOPS.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Glenn

I can’t begin to fathom…

N-GA

And the fleet commander’s a SEAL.

Yup. That’d be a message.

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Thomas//PNAC,

When one has been caught using multiple names and even having them talk to each other, like you and finch have, you probably shouldn’t call attention to things like “Walt.”

Why is it when somebody answers one of you moonbat(ic)s® straight up, like I did with your imply/wiki question, you move the goal posts?

Barr might well be a viable President, but he isn’t a viable Presidential candidate so it matters not.

Blowhard,

Are you calling yourself a chickensh!t again? Don’t forget your standard, moron.

Go to the Thomas page of cosponsors for the bill and it’ll show you the date each one signed on. OK, chickensh!t?

By getalife

April 24, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

“Well, reporters did ask John McCain today during his trip to New Orleans about Rev. John Hagee’s remarks that Hurricane Katrina was punishment for the sins of New Orleans:

“It’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense. I dont have anything additional to say. It’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, I don’t have anything more to say….it’s nonsense. I reject it categorically.”

Ah, that is rich. Wright to speak at the National Press Club to blame them for hating America and mcwar’s kook is exposed too.

The only sane choice is Clinton.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

getalife

And Wright’s going to be on Bill Moyer’s PBS show Friday. Moyers. He’s got a sweet deal. Public pays for his show, then owns the production company that profits. Too bad he won’t pay for health insurance for his employees. Maybe that’s why he’s for universal health coverage. Theory meets reality, again.

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Apparently Wright will blame ABC for taking him out of context in that interview. So ABC went ahead and provided the context

Looks like ABC got it just (W)right to me.

By AmVet

April 24, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

{{{{Ricky}}}},

Where does that list say that “almost all liberal Democrats are using our military as political pawns”?

Where does it say that “they would like to use S 22 as a bludgeon against Republicans and could care less if it passes or not”?

Where does it say that “the bill as written would gut the military.”

You and I and virtually everyone else here knows you will NEVER answer those questions.

or any others germane to this topic.

You are as craven as they come.

Because you feign to care about the guys coming home from this clusterf&ck of a war that your hero started. And your blind allegiance to the neo-cons prohibits you from seeing that investing anything more than absolutely the minimum in them or their families is a worthy and honorable endeavor.

So just know that I, and millions of others just like me, will always fight for veterans against cretins like you every step of the way.

By Paul

April 24, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

You’d think Obama would say “Pastor, you’re not helping!!! Go oversee the finishing touches on your 10,000sf mansion. Take your wife shopping - you have a ten mil line of credit. Take a cruise. Take a mission trip. Anything! But no more press appearances!”

Personally, I think the guy’s one of those spotlight junkies. Doesn’t matter what gets him there, or who he impacts, he just likes the spotlight.

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

And nor can I, Paul. That’s why the Museum is an exercise in idolatry. (But then they’ll be reenacting the Battle of FRANKLIN this weekend, so I guess if you can’t stand the kitsch, stay out of the oven —or the range of the Parrott Guns.)

By Paul

April 24, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

So, do we know - did Moyers call him on it? I assume Moyers had the transcripts and questioned and requestioned Wright on his assertions and inconsistencies? After all, Moyers is a journalist -

By @@

April 24, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

So Getalife…how do you feel about Obama’s tax proposals and Larry Kudlow?

The Pennsylvania results show that Hillary’s pit-bull routine worked. But that’s a different issue. What I’m saying is that liberals need to quit blaming Gibson and Stephanopoulos for Obama’s shortcomings. Instead, they need to blame Obama for failing to grasp how tax penalties on upward mobility will hurt the very people he thinks he’s going to help.

Jack Kemp has effectively made the point that African American communities desperately need capital in order to create new businesses and jobs. Yet as Obama takes the capital out of capitalism, all those who are not rich will be hurt when the rich folks with capital have less of it — after tax — to invest in those new businesses and new jobs.

At some point you’re gonna have to acknowledge that conservative news outlets are the only ones giving Hillary any credit - defending her candidacy while pointing out how ludicrous the DNC’s nomination/election rules are.

You really could learn a thing or two from conservatives. I don’t think it’s all about hoping for the battle to continue either. I think they see the DNC as stupid and feel a sense of responsibility in telling them so.

What do you think?

By Paul

April 24, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Glenn

Any ideas for using crab? Other than in crab cakes or soup? I’ve a nice supply and I’d like something where you can actually taste the crab (a failing of the many recipes I’ve looked over).

By Jasin

April 24, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

A well balanced individual, and a well balanced country, tries to combine the best of progressivism and conservatism, the feminine and the masculine, the heart and the mind. The bad side of conservatism, as it is so often seen today, is people who are afraid of change. The good side is the call to make sure that the enduring basic truth of a matter doesn’t get lost in all the fluff details. Progressivism is the creative aspect of humanity. It is people who are not afraid to try new ideas, and especially to try to apply those ideas to the basic social problems that continue to cause suffering. However progressives can go overboard in new policies which evolve into so much detail that they lose the basic truth, which is that each person creates his own reality. The balance of the mind (logic) and the heart is the goal. Use the heart to tell you what to do and the mind to tell you how to do it. Mind (Logic) without Heart can become cruel. Heart without Mind can create weakness.

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

Ya know, getalife, you and Hill, da Beast with Two Tongues, really oughta hang it up.

Did you notice that her all-important double-digit victory tuned out to have been a mere nine-point one? Oh, oops? Not in Clintonwood. Her campaign’s characteristically unashamed explanation: it’s still a “double-digit victory” for Hillary Clinton, “no matter which side of the decimal point it’s on.”

Did you catch that, get? In the Land of Clintons, where truth is a function of the Heideggerian isness of the is, five plus four is ten. Do you think that the majority of Americans want to live in a country in which truth is no longer even a mathematical possibility?

Hang it up, get.

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

Those parts are OPINION. Look it up.

Are you trying to tell us everything you write here is documented fact and not opinion?

Paul,

I would be shocked if Moyers ever did anything like journalism and follow up in that interview, but perhaps I’ll be surprised.

When Obama can state in a debate that the Wright comments he knew about were different ones and neither Gibson nor Snuffalufagus thought to ask what those other comments were our media is pretty well beyond hope for the most part. Obama has finally agreed to appear on Fox News Sunday this week, so that should be interesting.

By getalife

April 24, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

@@,

Sadly, I have to agree Fox is fair with Clinton and Obama has MSNBC, CNN and the blogs. Yet, out spent 3 to 1, she still thumps him in the big Sates.

Obama is finally going to appear on Fox and will get the tough questions. I think we will see another complete melt down on Fox.

I agree with Governor Strickland of the great State of Ohio:

“This is for me a no-brainer,” Gov. Strickland said. “If we’re going to plan to win in November, we need to choose the candidate that has the greatest strength in the states that are necessary to get us the electoral votes we need.” He added: “I hope the superdelegates are paying attention.”

Indeed sir,

Indeed.

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

Paul,

It sorta depends on the crab, but keep it simple, of course. Avoid drawn butter, for example. Mace. Mace. You could try it on scoops of endive leaf for finger-food, with snipped chive and maybe a hint of very light sauce Dijonnaise with Dry Vermouth. Red onions, good. I like to serve crab meat on Spring greens with diced Vidalia and chives and old-fashioned Green Goddess, shortcutted with Duke’s Mayo and definitely including processed scallions, parsley, anchovies, etc. I’d give you an old Pacific Heights recipe, were there time. Google.

Enjoy!

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Obama only agreed to the Fox interview if it could be pre-taped on Saturday. It could be their schedule or it could be a demand that they be involved in the editing.

By AmVet

April 24, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

No {{{rectal wipe}}}, just that deliberate misinformation designed to hurt the vast majority of veterans that have earned the nation’s gratitude, instead of “conservative” lip service, is not something I will silently and tacitly allow to go unchallenged.

Sure there are going to be some miscreants, perhaps cousins of yours, that will work the system out of some money.

But to screw the hundreds of thousands of GIs, men and women, who deserve a little help, in the name of your ideology?

Unfreaking believable.

And if ANYBODY, has earned an entitlement, it is them.

So go spout your stupidity in the name of saving a few pennies elsewhere chicknhawk.

Your priorities, as most good republicans, are, how can I say this gently?

Oh yeah.

F&cked.

By RW-(the original)

April 24, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

Why is it you can’t discuss an issue without your name calling and vulgarity? Oh yea, it’s because you don’t have any facts on your side and you’re basically a simpleton that’s lead around by your nose.

The Webb bill goes way too far and has far too many loopholes. The McCain bill seems more promising, but I haven’t had the time to study it.

GFY

By Glenn

April 24, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

Paul, try a Cajun boil, heavy on the spices. Butter goes on crusty bread if you’ve got it. Crab on newspaper.

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