Mike Luckovich

By TW

April 23, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

So nice to know that the same lunch bucket idiots that have given us the last eight years are continuing to have such an impact.

Being that the idea of voting for the future is but a pipe dream, might as well fully embrace looking out for number one and screw everything else. Yes, the GOP has won again. BIG night for the fear monger rightwing.

Land of the Cheap…

Home of the Chicken…

By Wally Sutton

April 23, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

If….then…the terrorists win.

That joke is older than Osama Bin Laden’s underwear…….ew

This man is definitely out of idears.

Lucko should reread “the far side” cartoons from another era and get the weird back, the ingenious twist, the unexpected payoff. This oatmeal sticks to my throat.

One of the funniest stills I ever saw came in a Simpson cartoon, where Homer is plunging 1000 feet to his death off of a cliff and the children who are around are all prone, peering over the cliff silently but totally absorbed with watching the fall. Luckovich has a little bit of that in the posture of the couple, except that the cartoon needs a larger contrast between the event being watched, which should be a calamity, and the quiet disposition of the observers.

C+

By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) Loves Dikkk Cheney

April 23, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney. ;->

Central Pennsylvania is like North Georgia - Appalachia, full of ignorant filthy chickenhawk trash - my kinda people!

Andiduh/AJC Management

By Al Gore Is a Fool

April 23, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

Sunspot activity has not resumed after hitting an 11-year low in March last year, raising fears that - far from warming - the globe is about to return to an Ice Age.

Astronaut and geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said pictures from the U.S. Solar and Heliospheric Observatory showed no spots on the sun.

He said the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.

“This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930,” Dr. Chapman writes in The Australian today.

“If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over.”

go to News.com.au to read more.

By @@

April 23, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Heyyyyyy! They’ve got a new dog.

Did their other dog die ml?

By dorado

April 23, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

@@, he wishes.

Unfortunately, Obama lost to Hillary last night and the libs are real bit chin’ depressed.

See the mushroom cloud in the picture behind Mr. and Mrs. Doubtfire?

By truthman

April 23, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

I support Obama, but I just wanted to congratulate Ms. Clinton for driving Andi/Duh/Devil absolutely stark-raving mad today with her big win in Pa!

Can’t wait to read his spewings!!

Bwahahahahaha

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Loser Luckovich is really showing his stripes. Why should Hillary get out when she won big in Pennsylvania and she won every demographic except the naive young and African-Americans. I love it when liberals start cannibalizing. They have really figured out how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!!!

By mm

April 23, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

And the wingnuts want to call Clinton “Hitlery”?

By Goldie

April 23, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

The Clinton machine started out with more than a 20-point lead in PA just one month ago. And after having lost so many states and so many voters until now, the question is: why can’t the inevitable candidate of 6 months ago “close the deal”???

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Lukkkoduh loves Dick Cheney - you just proved the point that I was making yesterday!!!! Congratulations you effete, liberal elitist!!!!

By Ralph

April 23, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

The year is 2008. The PA vote reveals just how deeply the redneck mind is still entrenched in this country. White trash mentality furthered by 20 years of Reagan-Bush-Bush World. Not at all surprising. Terrorfied, meaningless little people.

By AJC Management

April 23, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Well boo hoo hoo:

{{{{Al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri criticised Muslims for failing to support Islamist insurgencies in Iraq and elsewhere in a new audiotape posted Tuesday on the Internet. “I urge all Muslims to hurry to the battlefields of Jihad (holy war), especially in Iraq,” Zawahiri said in the message.}}}}

If victory is at hand, Nancy, why would we have to “hurry?”

You know, after the Americans and their Iraqi brothers boot this POS clean out of the Middle East, you libs at the Urinal really should consider giving him his own column.

He’d fit right in.

~~~~~

{{{{Rice had heard questions about Carter’s meetings several times during her meetings in the Mideast, with some diplomats wondering whether the Bush administration was talking to Hamas through the back door or contemplating a different policy.-Urinal}}}}

Yeah, that’s really professional and distinguished, having our moonbats out talking to foreign leaders as though it means something.

{{{{Carter, who won no concessions from Hamas, “I did the best I could,” Carter said. “They turned me down, and I think they’re wrong.”-Urinal}}}}

No way! And here I thought they would have surrendered.

~~~~~

{{{{Iraq Devlopments- Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki unsuccess-fully pleaded for immediate financial and diplomatic backing from rich Arab neighbors at a donor conference in Kuwait.-Urinal}}}}

There’s your headline^^ from the Reichstag, typical Geobbels negativity.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, here is your definition of “unsuccess-ful:”

{{{{A copy of the conference’s draft resolution obtained by The Associated Press also calls for increased help from Iraq’s neighbors in fighting militias and “assistance in solving the issue of Iraqi debts.”}}}}

The conference was yesterday, your telling me the goons at the AJC really believe that those owed Iraqi debt are just going to say “nevermind?” Especially with them having access to the same quote I do?

{{{{Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, speaking on the sidelines of Tuesday’s meeting, called Iraqi debt relief “technical work” that “takes some time.”}}}}

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Now that Hillary has put a smack down on Obambi in PA she really needs to point out the hypocrisy in his Super Delegate message. According to Barack’s people the SDs should just blindly follow the “will of the people” as if they are mindless sheep (they’re Democrats so they are mindless sheep, but I digress) and play no independent role.

That would be alright on it’s face, but Obambi took the endorsement and SD vote of New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson where Hillary won, albeit narrowly, and now has taken the endorsement and SD vote of Oklahoma Governor Brad Henry where Hillary trounced Obambi.

Why is it that only SDs thinking of supporting Hillary have to follow the “will of the people?” Oh and Hillary, you also need to remind people that even though they won’t count your Florida delegates, they have no right whatsoever to leave the Florida popular vote out of your total.

By truthman

April 23, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Right on cue! Andi/Devil/AJC mismanagement & RW.

All the little ducks in a row!!!

You guys are done for on Nov. 4…just done for…stick in a fork ‘em!!

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

truth?man,

I’m not running for anything in November and if you’re discussing my 9:38 message of support for Hillary, she’ll be long gone before November.

By truthman

April 23, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

I saw on CNN that the Russians are ‘harassing’ Georgia!

Sonny, save us!

By dorado

April 23, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Hillary is the next best thing since boxed chardonnay for the libs.

Good ‘till the last drop.

By dorado

April 23, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

fork you truthman!

By truthman

April 23, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

RW,

Nope…usually don’t read you entire posts…you know, SSDD and all that!

BTW, I meant to say “stick a fork in ‘em!”

Either way, get ready for a woman or a brother leading our country out of the Bush/Cheney nightmare!!

I loved what Obama said about Iraq!

Obama: “Day one I call in the Joint Chiefs of Staff and give them new marching orders!”

That’s change we can all live with!

By jethro bodine

April 23, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

For job purposes I moved to the hills of Western PA for 5 years. I found the people to be more backwoods and highly prejudiced than anywhere in North Georgia that I’ve ever been. And the first day of hunting season you better hit the basement, cause those bullets were flying everywhere, often into peoples’ houses.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

truth?man,

You obviously aren’t a thinking man. How would you know if my posts are the same every day if you don’t read them?

Now if you want repetitive, try reading when Blowhard posts.

The other day Obama said on day 1 he was going to hang out in the Oval Office thinking how cool it was to be there. Perhaps he just says whatever his audience wants to hear. You know, what he accused Hillary of last night.

By truthman

April 23, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

RW, I don’t have to look at the Sun every day to know it rises in the East!

By getalife

April 23, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Out spent 3 to 1, his own media including the AJC, and he takes another thumpin in PA.

What a fighter Clinton is.

The choice is simple. If the supers want to win this time and not lose three in a row, they should vote Clinton. Period.

By AmVet

April 23, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

When I lived in western NY I would go down to Pa. on business from time to time, and I completely agree with that characterization. Especially during deer hunting season.

There was virtually no difference that I could discern between some of the people there and the worst of these uneducated “conservative” hicks, that have historically predominated here in Dixie.

Though there are not quite the number of phony Christian nut jobs and uneducated flat-earth types there …

Another great edition of FrontLine last night.

It was a replay from 4/07 on Man-induced Global Warming.

Not that this is news to anyone watching with eyes open, Bush was shown to be a liar. While campaigning for president, then Texas Governor George W. Bush pledged to cap carbon dioxide fumes and require power plants to reduce greenhouse gas emissions “within a reasonable period of time.”

Less than a year later he broke that pledge.

And again the always delightful Dickhead Cheney reveals himself to be one of the very worst American politicians EVER as he submarines EPA Director Whitman with more of his accomplished sleaziness.

So 20 years on, these idiotic, foot dragging nay-sayers still cling to their incompetence and avarice.

But very soon, to paraphrase Gerald Ford, “Our long national nightmare will be over”.

And {{{{ricky retardo}}}}, roll over and play dead.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Only 14 years after these murders, Barack Obama went to the house of the apparent accomplice in these robberies and murders and asked for her support in his first political campaign. He sat on panels with Ayers in Chicago discussing politics and worked with him on the Woods Foundation board. This isn’t just some neighbor with whom he accidentally crossed paths; the Obamas sought out Ayers and Dohrn and maintained political ties with them at least through 2002.

truth?man,

That explains why you stay so ill informed.

By Goldie

April 23, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

The Clintons have such an unfavorable rating by the majority of Americans that they will not be able to win in November — wake up Clinton-sheeple, before you destroy both the Dems’ chances of beating McBush and the Party itself!

By Goldie

April 23, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

The “inevitable” Clintons believe they own the Dem Party, and so they should’ve closed the deal on Super Tuesday… so what happened to their campaign and their inevitability???

By Paul

April 23, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

truthman 9:53

“Obama: “Day one I call in the Joint Chiefs of Staff and give them new marching orders!””

Well, that’s really scary for someone trying to play down the “experience” factor.

The Joint Chiefs don’t run Iraq. They are comprised of the heads of the military services, whose function is to train, equip and organize their services. The Chairman, JCS is the principal military Advisor to the Pres.

The commanders of the unified commands are in charge of warfighting in geographic areas and report directly to the SecDef to the Pres (bypassing the JCS). For Iraq that’s Central Command.

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff plays an important role in the chain of command by relaying communications and overseeing the activities of the combatant commanders. While the Chairman, JCS can exert “influence” and his advice is crucial to both the Pres and SecDef and combatant commanders, he technically commands nothing.

I see another McCain commercial long about Sept -

getalife

Saw Terry McCaulife (sp) this morning. Said Fox called Hillary as the winner 20 min before any other network but his workers didn’t know it because they were watching another network. Gov Rendell again said Fox was more fair to Hillary than the mainstream media.

Everything changes -

out for a while -

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

It’s almost a pitch-perfect response. She does sound an odd note by blaming Obama for running negative ads after the debate in almost the same breath in which she defends her own advertising as part of the normal electoral process, but her answer to the Gray Lady has the elegance of the obvious. If people keep voting for her more than they do for Obama, why should she stop?

By Glenn

April 23, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

All right Tweakers, Streakers and Pantheistic Proggies! You too, Stumpers, Thumpers and Pietistic Bloggies!

Imagine your ideal presidential candidate. What would be that candidate’s campaign theme song?

By truthman

April 23, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Glenn,

It’s either “Tiptoe through the Tulips” as sung by “Tiny Tim,” or Black Sabbath’s ‘Ironman!”

RW, please quit trying to link what people did 40 years ago to today’s campaign. If we did that, you’d have to agree that John Negroponte, who works in the current regime, is an accessary to murder with his Iran-Contra treason…and, remember in 1986 when Cheney the Dark Lord went to Iraq and presented matching pearl-handled pistols to our good buddy, Saddam Hussein?

Everybody is associated with someone with a surly past - even you! Have you dumped all your nefarious friends you made in your life?

Strike two! Try again!

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Nice explanation to truth?man on military structure. One would think a blogger that claims to work for DoD might have known that already.

By AmVet

April 23, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Glenn, if I were a Republican (perish the thought!) that would be easy.

Jethro Tull’s Living in the Past.

By AmVet

April 23, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

And Mr. Gilbert, if I were a Democrat (gross), it would also be a snap.

The revered Mr. Rundgren’s “Just One Victory”.

By AJC Management

April 23, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

{{{{Clinton, no doubt, came into Pennsylvania with a huge advantage in the state, and benefitted from the backing of Gov. Ed Rendell. >>>But Obama dug into his war chest and poured a tremendous amount of money<<< into the Keystone State. If the goal wasn’t to win, it was at least to narrow the gap enough to prove to superdelegates that demography is not destiny — that he can attract white working class voters who have resisted his charms thus far.}}}}

{{{{Her solid but not stellar win also makes it unlikely that Clinton will be able to catch Obama in the crucial popular vote. Of the states remaining, North Carolina on May 6 is the biggest prize with 115 delegates, and Obama should win comfortably there, eating into gains Clinton made Tuesday.}}}}

Bwa.

By truthman

April 23, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Incorrect: The CJCS reports to the SECDEF and the Nat’l Security Agency, who, along with the prez and VP constitute the “National Command Authority.”

Even though you two think you’ve put me in my place, please remember that if the prez tells the Pentagon to jump, the Pentagon says “How High, sir!”

Obama WILL end the Chimperor’s War For Oil and Hubris!!

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Ralph - your name calling and steriotyping of people again proves the point that people are making about Barak Obama AND HIS SUPPORTERS. You are all a bunch of effete, liberal snobs who really believe that you have a right to rule and that you are better than everyone else. You are WORSE than the people that you are calling ignorant and racist. You don’t know these people and the sad part of it is you will never know them. You are too much like the old Indian Brahmin who had to go cleanse themselves if an Untouchable’s shaddow fell upon them in the market place. Hypocrite.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 23, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

-=-

Glenn -

Bachman Turner Overdrive’s “Taking Care of Business”

Although “I Shot the Sheriff” also seems somewhat apropriate’ too!

By truthman

April 23, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Devil…it’s “stereotype.”

And, yes, we are better than you…smarter, more intelligent, more caring and much, much more in tune with the sufferings of the world than money-loving Repugs!

We’re just better, period!

By Devastator

April 23, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

OKLAHOMA CITY - Oklahoma Gov. Brad Henry endorsed Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination Wednesday, calling him an inspirational leader who can unite the country.

“I believe Senator Obama is uniquely positioned to unite our nation and move beyond the divisiveness and partisan skirmishes that too often characterize politics as usual in Washington,” Henry said early Wednesday in a statement released by the Obama press office in Chicago.

The endorsement one day after the Pennsylvania primary gave Obama the official support of three of the state’s 10 superdelegates, while Clinton has the backing of one superdelegate. The rest are uncommitted.

Henry, a moderate Democrat in a Republican-trending state, said he had worked hard to build a consensus across party lines on such issues as education, job creation and health care and “that is why I am so enthusiastic about Barack Obama’s candidacy.”

“Senator Obama understands that the serious concerns facing average Americans must transcend partisan games if we are to rise to the challenges of today and tomorrow. He is a strong, committed and inspirational leader, ideally suited to bring together Democrats, independents and Republicans,” Henry said.

Obama said he was proud of Henry’s support “as we continue to build our grass-roots movement for change.” He said Henry had “achieved real results” as a consensus builder himself in Oklahoma.

“We’re fortunate to have Governor Henry’s backing, and I look forward to working with him in the months ahead to bring about real change not just for Oklahomans, but all Americans,” Obama said.

Henry became the first major Democratic elected official from Oklahoma to endorse Obama. The state’s only Democratic congressman, Rep. Dan Boren, remains uncommitted as a superdelegate, although his father, David Boren, has endorsed the Illinois senator. David Boren is a former governor and senator.

The 44-year-old governor’s endorsement came despite Obama getting only 31 percent of the Democratic primary vote in Oklahoma’s Democratic primary on Feb. 5 against Hillary Rodham Clinton, who got 55 percent.

By Devastator

April 23, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Barack just sent out this email…

Friend —

In a state where we trailed by more than 25 points just a couple weeks ago, you helped close the gap to a slimmer margin than most thought possible.

Thanks to your support, with just 9 contests remaining, we’ve won more delegates, more votes, and twice as many contests.

We hold a commanding position, but there are two crucial contests coming up — voters will head to the polls in North Carolina and Indiana in exactly two weeks. And we’re already building our organization in the other remaining states.

But it’s clear the attacks are going to continue, and we’re going to continue fighting a two-front battle against John McCain and Hillary Clinton.

I need your support right now. Please make a donation of $25:

https://donate.barackobama.com/whatthismeans

Thank you for all that you’re doing to change our country.

Barack

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Falseman - money loving Republicans? You mean like Teresa Heinz Kerry, Edward M. Kennedy, John D. Rockefeller IV, Robert Reuben, Diane Feinstein, William J. and Hillary Rodham Clinton, Michelle Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Mary Landrieu, Mark Dayton, Herbert Kohl, Bob Kerrey, Frank Lautenburg, Charles Schumer, Maria Cantwell, Patrick Kennedy, Mark Warner and Albert Aaron Gore, Jr. This is but a small list of millionaire and billionaire Democrats who are either currently holding office or have recently held office. To call Republicans money-loving when there are many more Democrats who have obviously not sold all they have and given it to the poor is really the height of hypocrisy. Please do not throw stones when you live in this glass house.

You again proved yourself to be one of the effete, mean-spirited, liberal snobs with your last post. You folks are going to end up having your rear ends kicked from here to the moon in November!

By THERESE PERSAUD

April 23, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Did I miss something?When did Maliki become the Iraqi PM?

By Jesus

April 23, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Paul

April 23, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

truthman 11:17

Wasn’t trying to put anyone in their place - more clarifying for the benefit of those who read here. (RW - DoD has many, many people - mil and civ - many of whom are more concerned with one or two levels above them. Altho they prob had this in class, many soon forget).

Actually, I didn’t say the CJCS reports to the Pres - he does through the SecDef and is the principal Military Advisor to the Pres. The Pres and SecDef comprise the National Command AUTHORITY and they, plus the VP; Chairman, JCS; Director, CIA; SecState; the National Security Advisor, plus others by invitation, comprise the National Security Council.

Many use the terms National Command Authority and National Security Council interchangeably, which is not correct.

It’s Wikipedia, but there’s a decent explanation and a wiring diagram not too far down. Many people do well in visualizing thru a wiring diagram.

Link: Chain of Command

But the bottom line is Obama needs to be careful when discussing national security issues, particularly in referring to the military, as he will be the Commander in Chief. Many come to office not at all clear on these issues, but in Obama’s case, given the “experience” theme (first raised by his Democratic opponents, not Republicans), misstatements will be easily exploited.

Back out for a few hours -

By Bosch

April 23, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

Hmmmmm,

Bosch’s Campaign Theme song?

Let’s see -

Aerosmith - Dream On? No

The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go? Nope, no good either.

Beck - Loser? Oh, heavens no.

Cheap Trick - I Want you to Want Me? No, sounds too desperate.

Everclear - I Will Buy You a New Life? No, people would take that wrong.

U2 I Will Follow? No, again, people could take that the wrong way.

Oh, I know:

Tears for Fears - Sowing the Seeds of Love:

“Politician grannie with your high ideals/Have you no idea how the majority feels ?

Feel the pain/Talk about it/If you’re a worried man - then shout about it/Open hearts - feel about it/Open minds - think about it

Time to eat all your words/Swallow your pride/Open your eyes”

Yeah, that’s more like it.

By truthman

April 23, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Beelzebub: All the people you mention just happen to be rich…that does not mean they support tax breaks to the rich or the “UnFairTax” crap being pushed by money-loving Repugs.

Big difference between being rich and being rich and wanting to keep it all for yourself.

Your kind has forgetten “Noblesse Oblige,” the obligation of the wealthy to those less fortunate. Your kind whines about “welfare mothers” while you practice Socialist business practices when you bail out failed banks. Your kind is all for capitalism when it comes to profit! But, man your kind is COMPLETELY SOCIALIST WHEN IT COMES TO LOSSES!! BAIL OUT THE RICH BUSINESSMEN, BUT SCREW THE AVERAGE AMERICAN.

Dimbulb!

Everything the Repugs do economically is designed to keep the rich richer and the rest of us under the boot!

By Dusty

April 23, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Glenn @10:55

I didn’t know you have a nickname “Wavy Gravy”? As “Wavy” you posted the very same words over at Wooten’s about a presidential theme song, etc. I thought it was pretty funny. Just surprised to see it again. Maybe someone stole your lines.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I’m well aware of the many, many, many unneeded and functionally illiterate people that work in all levels of goverment, but truth?man claims to be a military journalist that travels the world with the top Generals.

By Devastator

April 23, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Foreigner- I want to know what love is.

Phil Collins-Take a look at me now.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

A halfway honest politician would use ‘Cuz I Can as a campaign song.

By Devastator

April 23, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Oops. Didn’t know you were looking for campaign theme song.

Survivor- Eye of the Tiger

McFadden and Whitehead- Aint no stoppin us now

By And a-GAIN...

April 23, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

Whatever would we do without Devastator/Apocalypse’s Daily Shill for Obama.

Thanks again, Nancy.

By Bosch

April 23, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Devastator,

What about Foo Fighters - The Pretender?

Or

Talking Heads - Road to Nowhere?

No, those are too pessimistic.

U2 - Peace on Earth

That’s better - people are going to think I’m some kind of freaky hippy.

By Devastator

April 23, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

And a-gain,

You would be falsely led to believe that McBillary is a viable candidate and put yet another Clinton liar in the White House.

By Devastator

April 23, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

U2- Desire

Motley Crue- Dr.Feelgood

By Bosch

April 23, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Devastator,

I’m not up on Motley Crue tunes - but I heard the other day that they were going back on tour - I guess Vince, Nikki Sixx, and Tommy Lee (the other one I don’t know his name) are all out of rehab at the same time since the 80s.

Dr. Feelgood - what a great song name!

By Devastator

April 23, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Its probably their top hit. Even though their talking about a drug dealer in L.A., its still a good one.

Aretha Franklin has a song with the same name. They had to ask her permission to use it.

By CNN word

April 23, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Torture. this blog.

Myspacers everywhere.

Someone grab a hose.

By obama

April 23, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Starship- “We Built this City”

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Truthman - you assume facts not in evidence. I was not for bailing out the banks, but most of you Democrats were. You also would be the first to complain if the banks were allowed to go under and the system just collapsed. The government also did NOT bail out the banks anyway, they just insured the loans so that other banks could do it. Democrats like Schumer were the first do advocate this course of action.

Also nobless oblige is a rather condescending term used by people who want to do the minimum and have the GOVERNMENT do what they will not do as private individuals. Statistics show that conservatives are much more generous with their money than liberals when it comes to charitable giving.

Also, one of the most pathetic things I have watched lately is Ted Kennedy stuttering through his explaination of why his family has NEVER paid an inheritance tax when this tax is used to redistribute income and takes 55% of everything over $600,000 from small businesses and farms and moderately well-off individuals and families. You folks just need to pay the higher taxes if you think taxes are not high enough. And when taxes are raised on businesses then prices go up and only the consumer (the average guy) is hurt, because taxes are business expenses which are passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices. This is just a fact.

By Greg

April 23, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Ralph, you are correct (9:27). For decades we have seen the hillbilly, racist, white trash, hunter-killer mentality slosh in the Repug party. It’s a shame and a waste that millions of these loser clods now spill over into the Democratic party. Always voting against their best personal interests, while searching unsuccessfully for their “manhood.”

By CNN word

April 23, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Sheer, unadulterated torture. And there’s no end to it.

These same lip-balm appliques try to neutralize a blog by filibustering it. They’ve been doing this for years.

‘muff meds

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Boy George- Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?

George Michael- Father Figure

Pet Shop Boys- Go West

Gloria Gaynor- I am What I Am

Village People- YMCA

Abba- Dancing Queen

Barry Manilow- Copa Cabana

Judy Garland- Over The Rainbow

By GodHatesTrash

April 23, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Hillary got the hillbilly vote in PA - lots of Repuke crossovers.

There are more Appalachians in PA than any other state. Hillbilly trash for Hillary? Only because McCain wasn’t on the ballot. Hillbillies vote GOP.

Trash elects trash.

(Devil, you want to stop being treated like ignorant trash, stop voting like ignorant trash.)

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

That last entry at 1:36 was a name-jacking incident. It also makes no sense to me! You also need to learn, whoever you are, that Copacabana is ONE word!

By getalife

April 23, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

The tide has turned.

Stop whining and start winning.

“Iran ready to discuss nuclear dispute-Ahmadinejad”

Yup, don’t mess with Clinton.

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

GodHatesTrash - Then indeed he must hate you, although I doubt it as God hates no one. He does hate certain behavior, including, but not limited to abortion, blastphemy, venality, avarice, perfidy and sloth - all of which are practiced in spades by liberals as well as some conservatives. Your attitude again is the same as displayed by Mr. Obama in San Francisco earlier this month. You are an effete, elitist liberal snob. Have fun in your smugness.

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

getalife - Clinton will still lose. The radical left, which took control of the Democrat party in 2004 don’t want to give it back and your wing will suffer. The good news is, youo will get it back by 2012, but at a terrible price in the meantime. You need to evict the George Soros, Arianna Huffington types. Moveon.org will ruin you. Moderation in all things, remember?

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 23, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

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It’s amazing how “The Devil” puts God’s thoughts and words in his own mouth~! - Almost as if he were God Himself!…

Cheers’

By @@

April 23, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

(((“Iran ready to discuss nuclear dispute-Ahmadinejad”)))

Don’t mess with Clinton?

Getalife, indeed the Iranians are watching the U.S. elections. I’d hazard a guess that Ahmadenijad is more fearful of dealing with McCain.

I’ll give Hillary this…..

she IS a fighter. Her response during the debate to the question on Iran was expansive as well as impressive.

She definitely has more on the ball when it comes to national defense. Obama looked weak and inexperienced.

It’s only gonna get worse for Obama.

By Bosch

April 23, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

I need some help, apparently, and according to Mr. Devil, since I am left leaning in most regards, I’m guilty of some sins I’ve never even heard of, and I don’t know what they mean.

Does anyone even know what the hell venality, avarice, and perfidy is? I need to look those up.

And I’ve heard of blasphemy, but never blastphemy - is that like those people who enjoy blowing things up? You know, like terrorists?

And what does it mean to practice something in spades? I’m confused.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 23, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

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@@ - Good point!

I would also say Clinton has it more on the ball when it concerns the national economy too. Her knowledge of the problems of Japan’s Economy in the 90’s that parralel our own have already been discussed by her. She is definitly aware of economic cause and effect. But can she actually do anything to fix it, thats hard to say.

Obama is still a bit lost when it comes to that issue and well McCain — in his words it was pretty much “Duh - What’s an Economy?”…

Cheers’

Aww Andy/RW — We might not have to invade Iran after all… So Sorry…

Cheers’

By Bosch

April 23, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

HEY, wait just a damn minute.

I do not take bribes, am a very dependable and non-greedy person.

Mr. Devil,

Seriously, when you look in the mirror, do you see the word “hypocrit” tattooed across your forehead in big black letters?

Do you mumble the words “effete, elitist liberal snob” in your sleep?

Are you one of these people who think that if you write something or say it out loud enough that it magically becomes true?

You should really be ashamed to be so ridiculously one-sided. Isn’t that one of the seven deadly sins? Being ridiculously one-sided?

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Bosch - please do look these up. These are common words which I learned as a youngster in PUBLIC school. Broaden your horizons. Read a little:)

By Ben Waiting

April 23, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Ix-nay on the ade-spay.

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Peoples at 3:05, how right you are.

Anytime someone starts spouting things like “God wants” or “God thinks” or “God likes” or “God hates” you know you’re dealing with a stunted individual.

Proceed with caution.

By GodHatesTrash

April 23, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Thanks for sticking up for me Bosch.

By Bosch

April 23, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

I’ll bet you learned math on an abacus too, and way back then, could you go to the movies and get a popcorn and coke for a quarter and gasoline was about 1 cent a gallon?

My teachers didn’t talk about sin. They had enough sense to know it wasn’t appropriate to talk about sin in public schools.

By Freddy

April 23, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Well!

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Thomas/Walt/PNAC,

Even a government worker dolt, such as yourself, should be able to remember what I’ve advocated for Iran dozens of times here. Hint: It isn’t an invasion.

By Glenn

April 23, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Bosch, @@, Paul et al,

I’m divorcing my church, not very amicably, over their rigid intracongregational seggregation policies, especially in Bible studies and in Sunday school classes. They do everything but racial seg., and it’s finally driven me off the reservation. The church’s exacerbation of the school system’s already ludicrous policies of age and sex seg. of pre-adolescents (middle grades) was the real deal-breaker for me.

Any of you see room for compromise here? I’m thinking of making a prodigal’s return to my erstwhile Anglicans (with whom I no longer have anything ecclesiastical in common except a love for traditional liturgy), or otherwise going the opposite direction. In middle age it presses on me increasingly that I mustn’t waste a minute of my remaining allotment doing dances I don’t believe in. We have to live almost all our waking hours trapped in expert systems that treat us cybernetically; church I’d like to be a respite from the daily tutorials in The Bureaucracy of the Future.

Any of this make sense? Am I athwart the Zeitgeist? Amidst it?

By AJC Management

April 23, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

{{{{By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! April 23, 2008 3:25 PM Aww Andy/RW — We might not have to invade Iran after all… So Sorry…}}}}

Baby Killer: Why would we invade Iran when we can shell, strafe and bomb their military installations and wipe them from the face of the Earth?

Plus it would be good for the military industrial complex, you know, give a little boost to the ole Gross Domestic Product.

We Conservatives are more efficient than you morons are.

By Paul

April 23, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

General Petraeus picked to head Central Command - responsible for Middle East warfighting.

Link: Gen Petraeus

He’s replacing Admiral Fallon and will take over late summer or fall.

Senate needs to confirm. Get ready for more pontificating.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 23, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

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Yep Any and RW show their bloodlust yet again… talking about baby killing (lol) —

Nuke em all eh? RW?

Soon we will truly be the “Empire of AmeriKa’”

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Because I do it with one small ship, I am called a terrorist. You do it with a whole fleet and are called an emperor.

~A pirate, from St. Augustine’s “City of God”

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By AmVet

April 23, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

getalife at 2:52,

Your “The tide has turned. Stop whining and start winning” is outstanding!

I may just have to Joe Biden that one!

BTW I admire your determination and steadfast support for the candidate you want to see win.

Thank goodness I read that 2:33, because when I saw that list at 1:36, I thought, that has got to be the six worst songs EVER compiled in one list. (The last one is actually a great American classic/winner.)

That it was totally lost upon the intended recipient, is not without a great deal of ironic humor though.

Just as with comedy or any post Korean War culture in general, music (that doesn’t totally suck) and “conservatives” just don’t mix…

By Paul

April 23, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

Could you expand on that a bit, please? Segregated how? By sex?

Many people come to the realization of doing for self and doing away with show. It can be full of turmoil but then, believe me, it’s peaceful.

Lots of turmoil in the Anglican/Episcopalian, but if you pick the congregation carefully you can avoid much of it. You’ll be amazed at the gems you find - our pianist is incredible. For the first six months a main draw for me was being able to listen to him play. The other kind of swirled around -

I hear what you say about the liturgy - much of it can center the mind. The rest - well, it can kinda be like going to a reunion. There are some you just accept while you’re there and then forget about when you leave.

By AJC Management

April 23, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Gee, where have you heard this before?

{{{{Disconcerting as it may be to true believers in global warming, the average temperature on Earth has remained steady or slowly declined during the past decade, despite the continued increase in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, and now the global temperature is falling precipitously.}}}}

{{{{All four agencies that track Earth’s temperature (the Hadley Climate Research Unit in Britain, the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, the Christy group at the University of Alabama, and Remote Sensing Systems Inc in California) report that it cooled by about 0.7C in 2007. This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record and it puts us back where we were in 1930. If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over.}}}}

{{{{The reason this matters is that there is a close correlation between variations in the sunspot cycle and Earth’s climate. The previous time a cycle was delayed like this was in the Dalton Minimum, an especially cold period that lasted several decades from 1790.}}}}

This ain’t no “theory,” klowns.

By @@

April 23, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

Glenn:

(((Any of this make sense?)))

Not really, but I’ll take a stab at it.

You’re having a problem with the piecemeal parish approach?

Your church is conforming to the world around it, and in that environment, you find yourself uncomfortable?

I don’t attend church to view my reflection in the eyes of my fellow parishioners. I attend so that God will reveal to me, and me only, where I may improve my reflection in His eyes.

Ecclesiastes is my favorite book within the bible. It helps me focus on what’s important. Although He placed in this world, the peace I seek is not here.

By AmVet

April 23, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Andy, WHO are you trying to convince?

Yourself?

Look around.

NO ONE, and I mean nary a soul, is buying what you’re selling.

But good luck with it…

By Paul

April 23, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Is there a limit on the number of links that can be in a post?

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 23, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

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Yes Paul - 2 links max per post

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Wars are not paid for in wartime, the bill comes later.

~Benjamin Franklin

By Welcome!

April 23, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

@@:

He, He, He…He?

So you’ve affixed God with a human penis?

What’s next…an Ipod?

You are indeed in a sorry spot if you are without peace here on Earth.

Maybe your perception and understanding is limited. Maybe as a good first step you should stop projecting your human characteristics on God. Read about other faith journeys - learn to see/hear in new ways. Invite more.

If the scope of my spirituality was limited to (notice that I said LIMITED to) the typical church and the King James travesty, I’d be frustrated and ill-at-ease, too.

Good luck with that.

Glenn:

Maybe you’re ready for something deeper, something bigger, something that has no human words. It’ll come when you ask for it, and when you are truly ready to see.

Peace.

By Wally George

April 23, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

Hey everyone its me, aka Glenn.

The reason I’m leaving my church is the ridicule I’ve received from my fellow congregates. Last month I took in my favorite Butt Roast that looks just like the head of Jesus so everyone at church could savor in its glory. Alton Brown attends my church and I was sure everyone would understand why the Butt Roast Bust is so important to our church. It was a message from God. Delivered to us in an image that confirmed our most favorite Food Network Believer was attending the right church. Instead they laughed and ridiculed me.

The segregation at the Sunday bake sale further divides us. The Bundt cakes are put on different tables than the layer cakes, as if they are special. Who the Hell cares what kind of cake you are eating??? And why should a stupid Bundt cake cost 2 more dollars than the equally delicious layer cakes??

Anyway my Butt Roast Bust of Jesus is still up for bid on E-Bay. I had it signed by Alton Brown, Food Network Star, so its value has increased.

God Bless-Wally George, aka Glenn

By @@

April 23, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

Paul:

Stratfor has presented an article, “The Politics of the Improbable”. A good read if you believe that common sense prevails, which I do. I can’t take you to Stratfor but the article can be found here.

Click on the title “The Politics of the Improbable”.

There are those here who will say… “So what! We’re right back to where we started from.”

I would say “Not true, we’ve instilled a desire for a free and democratic Iraq” which is exactly what we set out to do. That same desire has taken root in Iran as well.

Petraeus has now assumed command of both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Syria and Israel are negotiating a peace agreement with Turkey’s help.

It’s lookin’ good!

By Paul

April 23, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Nuked.

Okay, were they Candidate songs or Election theme songs? Either way -

Obama - “Stuck on a Feeling” - Blue Swede

Link: Stuck on a Feeling

Hillary - “My Way” by Frank Sinatra

Link: My Way

By @@

April 23, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

Welcome!:

You’re one of those “little pieces” in life I tend to ignore.

You’re welcome.

By The Devil You Say

April 23, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

Bosch - you mean that teaching about morality and the foibles of life is irrelevant. Sin is that which is contrary to that which is right. Should teachers teach you that all things are relative? So cheating is okay? The seven deadly sins are part of basic western culture. I did not say that anyone preached to me, because no one did. You really like to reach. You are also a moral relativist. Certain things are just wrong. You keep condemning the president, but you won’t codemn the wrongs on your own side when they hit you in the face. Kennedy is still in the Senate and Packwood was kicked out when there was a Republican majority. You’re hypocrites!!!!

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 23, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

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@@ — Lofty goals indeed (for an empire) To overthrow the reigning leaders of other countries and instill a government in our image. sadly when you force a people to your will tehy will only accept that as long as teh gun is pointed at their heads and then they will reject and resent you more.

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I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land.

~Mark Twain

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your governmant when it deserves it.

~Mark Twain

The statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is being attacked, and every man will be glad of these conscience-soothing falsities

~Mark Twain

Let not your zeal to share your principles entice you beyond your borders.

~Marquis de Sade

What is more immoral than war?

~Marquis de Sade

We all have to be concerned about terrorism, but you will never end terrorism by terrorizing others.

~Martin Luther King III

We have guided missiles and misguided men.

~Martin Luther King, Jr.

By AJC Management

April 23, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet April 23, 2008 5:10 PM Andy, WHO are you trying to convince? NO ONE, and I mean nary a soul, is buying what you’re selling.}}}}

AmVet: Are you suggesting this a lie:

{{{{All four agencies that track Earth’s temperature (the Hadley Climate Research Unit in Britain, the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, the Christy group at the University of Alabama, and Remote Sensing Systems Inc in California) report that it cooled by about 0.7C in 2007.}}}}

The gig is up on “global warming.”

The only people left clinging to this corpse are the ones that stand to make big $$$, and I’m pretty sure that we will have to pry the hysteria from their “cold” dead fingers.

Which, according to the thermometer, shouldn’t be very long at all.

Global warming is just another junk science, full of ifs and maybes, and like all the other scare mongering before it, will soon be joining the ash heap of unfulfilled hysteria.

If there’s any room left on the pile for it.

By Paul

April 23, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Campaign themes, continued:

McCain - Top Gun Anthem

Link: Top Gun

That’s if he runs a traditional campaign. If he switches back to his contrarian anti-Republican-Establishment populism that got him where he is, he’ll have to go with:

“He’s a Rebel” by The Crystals

Link: Real McCain

AmVet

“Worst songs”?

Abba rules.

Deal with it.

@@

Thanks much. Good read. As I read it it struck me that just as game theory (the study of intelligent decision-making in situations where your payoffs depend not just on what you do but on what others do) was used in business and military training, now it seems to have an impact in policy discussions.

If you don’t try for it all, are willing to accept less than the ideal, give your opponent the same, and stay honorable (no doublecross) both sides come out ahead.

Now on to a discussion of the rationality of the current elected Iranian officials…

By Likkkoduh is Bush's Burka Boy

April 23, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

And butt boy too! ;->

“Scare mongering” - “unfulfilled hysteria”…

The story of my life!

Kisses,

Andiduh/AJC Management

By @@

April 23, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

PNAC:

Japan at the point of a gun?

Germany at the point of a gun?

By Glenn

April 23, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Paul & @@, for your thoughts on this. I feel guilty for not having what I’ll call the sense of humor—-& ergo remove—-with which you two are able to bypass the increasingly worldly structures.

Maybe I’d be better off in a primitive, rather than an executive and mock-erudite, environment. I’m accustomed to having to overlook a lot—-as I loathe the institutionalization of folkways—-but when no provisions are made, from more than a dozen study groups, for men and women to study together, or for adults and children to do so, then something’s amiss.

But it’s the travesty of the schools’ age & sex seg. for middle schoolers that really broke my hump. Twelve year-old boys manifestly have nothing but age in common with twelve year-old girls, and if it isn’t facially obvious to the religious educators, there’s 40 years’ worth of gratuitous Carnegie research to back up the finding that this chronological ghettoization is a mere administrative expedient counterproductive of educational purposes. From the perspective of religious education, the sexes should be mixed, but not solely with the same age. The chronological fetish is just school sorting.

So the problem is that these young people are kept from Christian communion and conspiration with others who, depending on the exact setting, are not of their gender or not of their precise age.

That adults studying Scripture are separated by sex, age (several times) and even marital status is to me the kind of nightmare the Nazarene found and from which He was forever trying to awaken people.

So that leads to the most disturbing part (and please don’t take offense, @@), which is that the secular structures the church has adopted and even exaggerated actually countervail the church’s Gospel message. It may even be that while we are busy trying to teach the Gospel, in fact we are teaching the structure. (There’s compelling evidence of this also.) So that would mean that we are teaching children to love the education system and to depend on IT lifelong. And since the education system is a political instrumentality, this is, as you might imagine, quite distressing. After all, who, in Matthean Gospel, is the god of politics?

By @@

April 23, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

“Ifs and maybes” while food riots are taking place around the globe NOW.

Human rights advocates versus environmentalists. I see another war on the horizon.

By @@

April 23, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Paul:

(((Now on to a discussion of the rationality of the current elected Iranian officials…)))

We stay in the boardroom Paul.(ISH)

By Prophetess Kelley P

April 23, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

””“Sin is that which is contrary to that which is right.”“”

The Devil You Say, I have looked into the soul of your posts and can honestly say that you are going to Hell. Bummer.

Homosexuality is that which is contrary to which is right. You may think you can give yourself a waiver but it won’t work. God hates you.

Its really a shame. You showed a lot of promise. I’m actually a little sad that you will burn in hell for all of eternity.

AJC Management, you my friend are going to heaven! God hates Muslims almost as much as he hates the Homosexuals. Nuking them here will get them used to the fire and heat they will face in Hell. You are a Saint. In fact you shall now be known as “Bishop Saint AJC Management.” Congrats!

AmVet, although your “Pray For Rain” message is indeed noble, you too will burn in hell. Sorry.

Spirituous!

By Paul

April 23, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

@@

Don’t know if you saw this the other day. Go to the link, then to April 18:

Link: Tell Congress thanks for Ethanol

Glenn,

Sounds like lots of emphasis on form. Don’t know where you are, but you may want to investigate Religious Science, Unity (not Unitarianism) or Science of Mind.

By AJC Management

April 23, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Likkkoduh is Bush’s Burka Boy April 23, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this And butt boy too! ;->}}}}

O.K. AmVet, I won’t respond to you anymore if you can’t handle it.

Geez.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 23, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

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The defense policy of the United States is based on a simple premise: The United States does not start fights. We will never be an aggressor.

~Ronald Reagan

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.

~James Madison

The executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war.

~James Madison

War…should only be declared by the authority of the people…instead of the government which is to reap its fruits.

~James Madison

Whether or not patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, national security can be the last refuge of the tyrant.

~Lord Walker of Gestingthorpe

The responsibility of the great states is to serve, and not to dominate, the world.

~Harry S. Truman

The occupation and robbery of a nation occurs under the illusion of freeing its citizens from brutal oppression.

~Ramman Kenoun

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?

~Mahatma Gandhi

By Prophetess Kelley P

April 23, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Paul, I’m sorry. I just can’t imagine Jesus kicking back on his Cross listening to Abba on his ipod. We still have hope for you though, I’m not quite ready to judge you.

Anyway, we all must think much more deeper, spiritual thoughts….What would Jesus listen to??????

By @@

April 23, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

Glenn:

My church is small. Out of necessity we combined genders and age - middle to high school. In today’s society concerns are the same.

I led the youth for two years. Let them choose the topics that were of interest to them - no holds barred. I think it served the younger ones well to see the conflicts they would face in high school. Gaining insight into how the thoughts of boys differed from those of girls was a real eye-opener for the girls. They had the advantage of a female advocate, ME. There came a time when the boys needed an older advocate. I brought in an older male.

We had a blast.

They’re all grown now, off to college. Most of the participants attended of their own free will. Their parents didn’t attend any church. They still maintain contact with me.

By Glenn

April 23, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

@ Welcome!: Thanks for that. It’d be welcome indeed.

PoFo, I keep telling you that YOU are Wally, and I, sir, am Mayor Sam. As a matter of fact I did spend half of Saturday pulling 12-hour butt roasts in the church kitchen. There was more Spirit around that prep table than anyplace else I’ve been in that church, in 9 months. That’s not supposed to happen! Who planned that?

Paul, problem I’ve got is with privileging profane structures over sacred content. But I’ll look into the neo-gnostics. Thanks for the rec.

By George

April 23, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Oh yea, lets keep this train wreck going.

It is, in the independent counsel’s judgment beyond peradventure that as a matter of historical fact, Mrs. Clinton’s input into the process was a significant — if not the significant — factor influencing the pace of events in the travel office firings and the ultimate decision to fire the employees. Accordingly, the independent counsel concludes that Mr. [sic] Clinton’s sworn testimony that she had no input into Watkins’s decision or role in the travel office firings is factually inaccurate.

By Paul

April 23, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

Prophetess Kelly P

God made Abba.

God listens to His creation.

Elegantly simple, yes?

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

April 23, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

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@@ — As I do very much agree with you on some issues — I’ll try and be direct with you without sarcasm as I would respond to others here with.

Your comparing apples to oranges here.

Japan and Germany were the aggressors, NOT the USA (or allied forces). We did not invade their country, Whereas they invaded many countries. And the results were (to them) that the people resnted and rejected them (not us). And even to this day the Fascist German Empire is resented world wide.

Iraq - when they invaded Kuwait, was in that same boat, and when we stopped that, we were in the right. Same with Afghanistan (Taliban) afte 9-11 (aggression).

Invading Iraq, and overthrowing it’s government however threw our nation’s principles, and doctrine right out the window. I fear this nation will never recover from what this administration has done to the American concience.

@@, Have a good evening. I definitly don’t mind these reasonable debates on issues with you.

Cheers’

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By Glenn

April 23, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

But @@, you’re a born educator. The folks with whom I’m dealing are merely educated. They don’t know what to do other than to do what they know, which is the Department of Moloch whence they came so much less scathed than most that it makes them proud.

What you did in leading the church youth was spot-on, and it’s worked for me too, in smaller churches. I’m delighted that it worked for you, praise be. (I also love to teach the wee ones; even my student teaching was split between K and a reform middle school. Once I redesigned catechetical and liturgical structures for the preliterate children and the new readers in a big church in Palo Alto, and it worked—-works—-swell, and without a single novel or innovative feature.)

But you’ve just about convinced me that I belong in a smaller church. Which is fine by me. Already got one in mind. I’ve staffed big churches and once helped start a dinky one, so I’m comfortable either way, as long as the behemoths know how to feel small. This one doesn’t. It doesn’t even know it should try to.

By AmVet

April 23, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Andy, WHO are you trying to convince?

Yourself?

Look around.

NO ONE, and I mean nary a soul, is buying what you’re selling.

But good luck with it…

By AJC Management

April 23, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

Baby Killer: KKKlinton voted us to war, hon.

{{{{Remember the Iraqi government’s Basra offensive, launched a month ago and quickly declared a failure by an overwhelming majority of the talk show and editorial commentators? “Basra Blunder” was the headline of a column that received wide distribution; the column described Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki as an inept, impulsive figure “in way over his head.”}}}}

{{{{Today, Maliki and Iraqis in general have earned the right to sneer at such instant and shallow media negativism, for Knights Charge (code name for the anti-Shia gang offensive in Basra and southern Iraq) is proving to be an extraordinarily significant political and military operation with rather heady long-term payoffs.}}}}

{{{{Knights Charge demonstrates the Iraqi democratic government’s expanding reach and increasing effectiveness. Iran’s mullah dictatorship will always try to destabilize Iraq, that’s a given. But now Tehran says publicly it supports the Iraqi government’s counterinsurgent efforts. Why? Fair bet the smart mullahs have noticed the political success of Knights Charge as well as the Iraqi military’s improving counterinsurgency capabilities. Unfortunately, the Basra blunderbusses in the American media haven’t.}}}}

The shallow dwell on the past, while the realists look to the future.

And what a future they have in Iraq.

Bwa.

By Glenn

April 23, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

Sin’s not opposite from the mark. Sin’s a metaphor anyway. To sin, in both Koine Greek and (interestingly) Aramaic, is to miss the archer’s mark, especially by striking short of it. (In archery this denotes weakness—-a weak draw.) Note that the archer aims at the correct mark before missing. Archers use misses, of course, to zero in on their marks.

“One over, one under, one on,” saith the artillerist.

Pretty humane reading, eh? Much forgiveness in it. Much understanding.

By AmVet

April 23, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Global warming is just another junk science, full of ifs and maybes,…

And your religion just preempts everything in your mind and precludes you from seeing anything you can neither understand nor accept.

Whether it’s gravity, an expanding universe, natural selection or quarks.

It’s cool, though Andy.

Keep repeating your mantra over and over and over. And we’ll see how many people you and your kin “convert”.

But one thing is for certain. The future of this planet and mankind’s role therein will definitely NOT be entrusted to people like you.

Bet on it…

Prophetess, based on what I’ve seen in this world for the past half century, I actually believe hell would be preferable to hanging out with these “Christians” for all eternity!

Jesus shaves…

By @@

April 23, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

PNAC:

(((Japan and Germany were the aggressors)))

Apples and oranges?

I’ll give you that, but isn’t it plum amazing how the ME is now taking a hard look at religious extremists within their midst. Moderates are the key. Followers of the true Islam. There are a lot of good sites out there where their disdain for the extremists is loud and vocal.

Deliver to the region their own war. The war that they (the extremists) declared on the U.S. With the help of the moderates, freedom of and from radical religion can and will prevail.

By Glenn

April 23, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

AmVet, you don’t get it about AGW, do you? There’s something of greater concern. A still more serious phenomenon: there’s nothing more serious than a new idea coming suddenly to dominate academia, politics, economics, domestic life, even religion—en route to its stated intention to condition every remaining department of the lives of every human being—and yet still be somehow unassailable, incontestable, indisputable, inarguable. As you know as well as anyone, there is terrible Western precedent for this phenomenon.

By @@

April 23, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this

Glenn:

I have to share this lesson in humility with you before I go. We had a young guy in our youth group, 15. He was every girl’s dream, and he knew it. Very popular among the girls in high school. As a result, he showed them little respect. I planned a game night.

He and his best friend (a good sport) were asked to balance a potato on the bridge of their nose. A large funnel had been placed in the waistband of their slacks. The object was to drop the potato into the funnel. He didn’t notice that the girls whom he had been disrespecting were holding bottles of water. At the count of three, he and his buddy were to drop the potato.

The girls filled the funnels with water on the count of two, soaking the front of their slacks. Initially he was mad….frustrated, whatever. His friend, who I was counting on told him that he deserved it for the way he had been treating the girls. He apologized, learning a lesson in humility. His friend, who wasn’t all that attractive by a young girl’s standards became an overnight success with the girls.

By @@

April 23, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

Scuse me PNAC.

Make that “freedom of religion and from radical extremism can and will prevail.”

By AmVet

April 23, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

“…unassailable, incontestable, indisputable, inarguable…”

And if that were actually the case it would concern me, Glenn.

It is not.

The scientific method is impartial. If the validity of the “findings” of those who oppose the overwhelming evidence that supports it were superior, I would be swayed.

It is not. It is not even remotely close.

There is much uncertainty about global warming to be sure.

There is very little uncertainty that most of the naysayers are loons that essentially fall into the two camps: 1) ill-informed willfully blind, liberal hating religious nut jobs as seen on this blog and 2) corporate wh0res and their paid for “scientists” who don’t want to lose any revenue.

In either case I cannot be convinced they give a flying f&ck about this world or its inhabitants.

But again, they are ultimately going to have no say anyway…

By Glenn

April 23, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

I love it!