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By Mike Luckovich | Thursday, April 3, 2008, 07:20 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

Good Mcbushie.

~~~~~

{{{{Al-Qaida No. 2: We don’t kill innocents. Al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri, rejecting criticism of attacks by the terror network’s followers that have killed thousands, maintained that it does not kill innocent people.}}}}

Look at this FS printed in the Urinal, no scare quotations, no “allegedly,” nope just straight up presenting as a fact and agreeing with it.

Those three thousand people in the WTC, guilty, right POS Urinal?

GFY, America hating lowlifes.

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{{{{Officials of 18 states are taking the EPA back to court to try to force it to comply with a Supreme Court ruling that rebuked the Bush administration for inaction on global warming.-Urinal}}}}

Inaction?

Shouldn’t he get an award for “inaction,” I mean it isn’t like the temperatures are rising or anything.

What’s Bushie supposed to do anyway; extinguish the Sun?

~~~~~

And to think the demokrats want to run the whole country too:

{{{{Atlanta auditors found that city budget officials overestimated the year-to-year surplus by a combined $241 million since 2003, a problem that helped create the current projected $65 million deficit.-Urinal}}}}

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Now just imagine for a moment the headlines if this had been a white judge asking all the blacks to leave the courtroom:

{{{{Judge rethinks asking all white people to leave courtroom-Urinal}}}}

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

{{{{The real problem for the Democrats is that the contest between their two finalists shows them not to be the party of ideas but the party of a single idea: Liberalism — more government across the board; more taxes, more spending, more regulation. The media find it hard or impossible to point this out because that is their bias too. What’s not to like about a party dominated by two liberals? That certainly is the New York Times’ position.}}}}

So what else do they have to argue over?

Hehehehe.

~~~~~

{{{{But then Gingrich put his finger on the real problem with Obama’s thinking, saying, “We talk about change, and then we do more of what we are already doing.” Throughout this campaign, and his entire political career, Obama has never, and will never, say or do anything to challenge any of the verities of the Left. In the end, his supposed change always seems to hearken back to the tried and failed, Big Government policies of the 1960s, or even the 1930s.}}}}

Plus, he hates America.

By Copyleft

April 3, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

That’s probably because the “verities of the Left” are, in fact, correct.

And the policies of the right have been a hideous, disastrous failure, as the last seven years have amply demonstrated.

Why on earth would you say Obama hates America? After all, he’s a liberal, i.e., a REAL American. You neo-nutzis are the ones who have a problem with freedom and justice.

By mountain man

April 3, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

Andie hates America.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

The Progressive Majority: Why a Conservative America is a Myth

By Lunatic Fringe

April 3, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

I would hate to think the highlight of my day is being the first one to post on a newspaper’s blog. How sad.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

Lingering problems on McCain’s far-right flank

By CandlestickMaker

April 3, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

A second group of third graders has holed up in that Philadelphia Elementary School that Hillary Clinton visited and came under spitwad fire, injuring several members of her entourage including Yanni, who was killed.

Swat teams are in place, and await the order to attack from Hillary herself, who is stationed on the front lines of the seige.

By RB from Gwinnett

April 3, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

By Copyleft 8:08 AM

{{{And the policies of the right have been a hideous, disastrous failure, as the last seven years have amply demonstrated.}}}

Will people like you ever realize it’s YOUR approach at life that makes you a failure and not what Bush, Clinton, or anybody else in government does? It’s you. Unmotiviated, uneducated, lazy people will never become anything and will always be left behind by any society. Stop blaming others and look in the mirror. You were a loser under Clinton 1 and will continue to be a loser under whoever wins in November…because you’re a loser!

By Lunatic Fringe

April 3, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

Is there a law that says to be president your surname has to be Bush or Clinton?

By CandlestickMaker

April 3, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

Bush and Clinton are oath-takin’, oath-forsakin’ violations of the laws of nature, congress, and the constitution, but unfortunately, the supreme court dont enforce them laws.

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Copyleft April 3, 2008 8:08 AM Why on earth would you say Obama hates America?}}}}

It’s the little things that tell the whole story:

At last, Michelle Obama proud of America<<<

Obama: refuses to cross his hand to his heart when reciting the pledge of allegiance.<<<

{{{{By mountain man April 3, 2008 8:10 AM Andie hates America.}}}}

Pardon my French but bullsh!t.

I ain’t the one calling the victims of 9/11 “guilty,” like you filthy liberals are.

You kowards are inbred with a deep, disgusting, masochistic hate of this country, most likely because you are nothing but a bunch of spoiled little freaks, it is all you do is sit around and whine about America this and America that.

You cannot read your own posts?

By Paul

April 3, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

AJC Management 8:02

Poor reporting - one needs to let readers know how the interviewee defines a term. To a jihadist, of course they don’t kill innocents - innocents are those who follow Islam as judged by jihadists. If you don’t follow Islam as they decide, you are not an innocent. Old, young, infant, male, female - makes no difference.

But I doubt if such a fundamental question ever occurred to the AJC staff.

IThN 8:02

Another fun with terms subject. One could just as easily argue Jesus was a strict conservative - for He was following God’s teachings exactly as God laid them out, as intended. No need to apply an expansive or interpretive modification (liberal interpretation).

It never ends…

Lunatic Fringe

Does being the fourth poster of the day count as a highlight?

:-)

Your 8:33

Time to end dynasties! And strict term limits would make it possible for the House and Senate, where it seems if your name is “Kennedy” for instance, you’re “in.”

w00t

I don’t think earmarks are a Rep or Dem issue - it’s entirely political. But looking at the Presidential race, the only one with credibility from past performance is McCain.

Today’s ‘toon: I enjoy editorial cartoonists skewering, getting people riled up, but I like the opinion to have some basis in fact. This perpetuates stereotypes or the repeating of a broad generalization with little basis in fact. Bush and McCain have been policy opponents for years. This is just a cheap way to appeal to peoples’ emotions - hate Bush, don’t vote for a Rep.

By w00t

April 3, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Hey, Andie…

The whole Obama thing about him “[refusing] to cross his hand to his heart when reciting the pledge of allegiance” is another conservative LIE!

You’re talking about that stupid picture that has spread through email of him standing while Hillary and Richardson have their hands to their hearts. Well, if you actually took the time to do some RESEARCH instead of opening your fat pie hole, you would understand that they were listening to the NATIONAL ANTHEM. No where does it say “You are required to hold your hand to your heart during the song. The generally accepted etiquette for the anthem is to stand up at attention looking at the flag, or towards the direction of the music. That’s it.

STOP SPREADING LIES!

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

To whit, America haters:

{{{{The Democratic left never apologized for its antiwar politics. It abhorred Clintonian centrism. The newest generation of “progressives,” unabashedly descended from the San Francisco Democrats, wants the party rooted in the worldview and attitudes that came to prominence during Vietnam.}}}}

{{{{One can rediscover that worldview by watching the Academy Award winning 1974 documentary about Vietnam, “Hearts & Minds.” This film, by director Peter Davis and producer Bert Schneider, stands as a useful, explicit demarcation for an American political culture that broke in half during the 1960s and ’70s.}}}}

{{{{Toward the film’s end, Daniel Ellsberg, of Pentagon Papers fame, casts off the preceding generation when he tells the camera that Presidents Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon all “lied.” He adds: “We weren’t on the wrong side” in Vietnam. “We are the wrong side.” By this, the movie makes clear, is meant in part that America had become dangerously enamored with a culture rooted in martial values. The problem isn’t the military, which is inevitable. The problem is militarism.}}}}

{{{{“Hearts & Minds” makes associations between the war and a gung-ho high-school football team in Niles, Ohio; uniformed marching bands; young boys (Scouts) in formation in parades, and displays of tiny flag-waving. The father of an aviator killed in Vietnam is allowed to speak at length in admiration of his son’s heroism in war and of military values generally. The viewer is clearly expected to be galvanized by this scene into a new truth: This father is sad, foolish and wrong.}}}}

By CandlestickMaker

April 3, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

WRONG PAUL!!!!

Wrong, Paul. Jesus told the Jews that they had got it wrong. That’s why all his sermons ended with Jesus being chased by a stone throwing mob.

You deserve to be proud of your faith, Paul. running away from Paul).

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

Dobson lashes out at McCain for not kissing his ring

By Paul

April 3, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

CandlestickMaker

I disagree.

Say you have a Chef College that teaches “This is how you make lemonade. Mix lime juice, water and sugar.”

Along comes a young upstart who says “let’s review the text. We mix water, sugar and lemon juice, not lime juice, to make lemonade.”

The College staff, heavily invested in lime groves, calls him an amateur and throws him out.

He upstart was applying a conservative reading of the text. The ruling body, invested in power and position, perverted the original intent.

The upstart was a conservative.

By Lunatic Fringe

April 3, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Paul: The Braves finished THIRD the last two years. What did that get them?

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Mormons? Huh?

In the cartoon - Barney looks mad. Poor dog.

By Goldie

April 3, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

McBush agrees with Dubya’s “stay the course” in Iraq.

McBush agrees with Dubya’s promotion of torture tactics, because McBush voted AGAINST the bill to ban torture.

McBush agrees with Dubya’s do-nothing plan for our current economic disaster.

McBush agrees with Dubya’s pleas to Congress to make Dubya’s “tax cuts” permanent.

McBush agrees with Dubya about being compassionate toward illegal immigrants coming to America.

McBush = 4 more years of Dubya.

By @@

April 3, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

You’re in desperate need of a “car tune” ml, cause you’ve been grasping at straws of late.

Looking at yesterday’s toon, I was wondering if maybe you were “thinking”…

Bring me the head of Bush THE BAPTIST?

By Reverend Jesse Jackson

April 3, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

I had the plane all gassed up and Al, me and the NCAA, crap, I mean NAACP, were ready to come to Atlanta to protest Judge Marvin Arrington. Then we found out he was a brother and it was whitey who was thrown out of the courtroom, so…never mind.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I feel that way when people try to put weird things like butternut squash in chili and call it chili -

That’s not chili! It’s vegetable soup!

Anyway, Jesus a strict conservative?

Huh? He was an existentialist - create your own destiny kind of guy.

By CandlestickMaker

April 3, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Paul, are you saying the Jesus hacked the beatitudes and the parables?

That the old testament is replete with new testament lore?

Jesus told the Jews to forget the tora. He said that HE was the way.

When the Jews realized that they couldn’t make money in the temple if Jesus was allowed to continue, they crucified him.

Jesus knew he didn’t have 2 make too many overtures about the monied ways of the old religion before he would get strung up.

But you do have every right to be proud of your faith. Be that faith, and go forward, Paul, for I ordain you as Old Testament Guy, the one who spreads it far and wide for all to know the difference of the old and new, false and true, dooby doo.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

The Verdict: Teflon John

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Ted Turner, Ted Turner, Ted Turner -

you’ve gotta love that crazy guy sometimes.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Klein: In January, McCain insisted Basra was ‘not a problem.’

By just the facts

April 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Thank heavens for knee jerk neanderthals like Andie on this board.

He sets the cause of the (once) Grand Old Party back at least a century with his daily spew of brain vomit.

Call me a cynic, but I’m betting that she or he is a paid operative of the Democratic Party whose sole mission is to undermine the credibility of Republicans with insults, innuendos, and outright, transparent lies against moderate Democrats. The purpose of these falsehoods is clear. Make the GOP so unattractive that only your hardcore fascist, racist, virulently homophobic, sexist, book-burning, Constitution hating weasel will vote Republican in November.

Kudos for a job well done!!!

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Like I was saying:

{{{{Mr. Maliki demonstrated his willingness to challenge Shiite militias and Iran in the Shiite heartland of Iraq. The Iraqi Security Forces ably demonstrated their capability to defend central Iraq, and quell an uprising of the Mahdi Army and the Special Groups in the most important cities between Baghdad and Basra. The remaining security problems in Basra will have to be addressed in future operations, which we should encourage the government of Iraq to undertake after additional planning and, perhaps, reinforcement.}}}}

{{{{The recent fighting in Iraq has also revealed much about our enemies. The intensity of Special Groups activities rose from January to March; U.S. and Iraqi forces found the large caches of EFPs and new Iranian rockets that often precede a Special Groups offensive. The Basra operations seem to have prompted the Special Groups and the Mahdi Army to launch this offensive prematurely, not according to plan. It did not succeed.}}}}

{{{{Iran and Mr. Sadr could not simply unleash a floodtide of violence that would overwhelm Iraqi Security Forces partnered with U.S. units, because they are more capable of handling the situation. For all of his nationalist rhetoric, Mr. Sadr is evidently not in control of his movement — it appears that the decision to fight or not rested with the Qods Force commander and not with him.}}}}

By AmVet

April 3, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Damn that Curt Schilling!

As a lifelong Yankee fan it is my sworn duty to despise all things Red Sox.

And though the guy has said some pretty stupid things in the past, I begrudgingly admit that I agree with him on his recent comments about McCain, etc…

Damn him!

Specifically I agree with this: “Ability to cross party lines to get things done? I believe he’s the ONLY one in this election capable of doing that, and beyond all things, that’s what I want from our next president. Someone with the ability to get things done regardless of personal agenda or party affiliation.”

And here’s an unusual sentiment:

But unlike many conservatives, Schilling has positive feelings toward Barack Obama and even envisions a fantasy ticket of McCain-Obama. “Obama is a man of great integrity and character,” Schilling writes to Newsmax.

“I would love to see McCain and Obama shake up the world and join together on a ticket. Regardless of their disagreements on many issues, I think both of these men care enough about our country to look out for us first, and their personal agendas second.”

Unlike Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove did.

That many of the one time Bush loyalists, now turned “conservative” surrender monkeys will vote for him is a given and all he has to do to win the White House is avoid pandering to these Republican nut jobs and Christian frauds, and keep attracting moderates, independents, disillusioned Democrats, disgusted true conservative Republicans and the more rational voters…

By Mike

April 3, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

This cartoon just flies in the face of reality. McCain has disagreed frequently with Bush, most notably calling for Rumsfeld’s resignation.

McCain is despised by the extremists on the right for not being partisan enough. It is Obama and Clinton who are slaves to partisan dogma.

Of coure, beacuse Mikey is a rigid partisan he is unable to get beyond partisan stupidity.

By The Devil You Say

April 3, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

I don’t know how this twit gets these ideas about how McCain is Bush’s lacky. Certainly that is not the case. These two have disagreed about too much over the last eight years. I guess anyone who agrees that liberty, economic freedom and national security are all important is a Bush lacky. Nice to know.

By Mike

April 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

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Comments By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

Good Mcbushie.

~~~~~

{{{{Al-Qaida No. 2: We don’t kill innocents. Al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri, rejecting criticism of attacks by the terror network’s followers that have killed thousands, maintained that it does not kill innocent people.}}}}

Look at this FS printed in the Urinal, no scare quotations, no “allegedly,” nope just straight up presenting as a fact and agreeing with it.

Those three thousand people in the WTC, guilty, right POS Urinal?

GFY, America hating lowlifes.

~~~~~~

{{{{Officials of 18 states are taking the EPA back to court to try to force it to comply with a Supreme Court ruling that rebuked the Bush administration for inaction on global warming.-Urinal}}}}

Inaction?

Shouldn’t he get an award for “inaction,” I mean it isn’t like the temperatures are rising or anything.

What’s Bushie supposed to do anyway; extinguish the Sun?

~~~~~

And to think the demokrats want to run the whole country too:

{{{{Atlanta auditors found that city budget officials overestimated the year-to-year surplus by a combined $241 million since 2003, a problem that helped create the current projected $65 million deficit.-Urinal}}}}

~~~~~~

Now just imagine for a moment the headlines if this had been a white judge asking all the blacks to leave the courtroom:

{{{{Judge rethinks asking all white people to leave courtroom-Urinal}}}}

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

{{{{The real problem for the Democrats is that the contest between their two finalists shows them not to be the party of ideas but the party of a single idea: Liberalism — more government across the board; more taxes, more spending, more regulation. The media find it hard or impossible to point this out because that is their bias too. What’s not to like about a party dominated by two liberals?

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Like I was saying:

{{{{This is a chronic disease among Democrats, who tend to talk more about what’s wrong with America than what’s right. When Ronald Reagan touted “Morning in America” in the 1980s, Dick Gephardt famously countered that it was near midnight “and getting darker all the time.” This is ironic and weirdly self-defeating, since the liberal message of national improvement is profoundly more optimistic, and patriotic, than the innate conservative pessimism about the perfectibility of human nature. Obama’s hopemongering is about as American as a message can get — although, in the end, it is mostly about our ability to transcend our imperfections rather than the effortless brilliance of our diversity, informality and freedom-propelled creativity.}}}}

{{{{Patriotism is, sadly, a crucial challenge for Obama now. His aides believe that the Wright controversy was more about anti-Americanism than it was about race. Michelle Obama’s unfortunate comment that the success of the campaign had made her proud of America “for the first time” in her adult life and the Senator’s own decision to stow his American-flag lapel pin — plus his Islamic-sounding name — have fed a scurrilous undercurrent of doubt about whether he is “American” enough.-Joe Klein}}}}

And he’s^^ a damn pinko.

By The Devil You Say

April 3, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

AmVet - I’m still not sure of whom you speak? Are you speaking of McCain when you speak of the ability to cross party lines? Surely you do not speak of Hitlery or Obamanation? Both of them have abismal records when it comes to bipartisanship - except I forget that bipartisanship is liked by liberals only when it has to do with a Republican turning coat and agreeing with them. If it happens the other way round, you excoriate the miscreant!

By Paul

April 3, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Goldie

Voting against a bill does not mean being in favor of the opposite. As was noted here, Dems aren’t really all that serious about a torture ban, as the bill they put forward had only those methods oulined in the Army’s Interrogation Manual. The Executive controls the manual - they can change it at any time. So even if the bill became law, all the Executive had to do was change the manual, which would suit the Dems, as the theater would continue. Reason enough to vote against it. The Dem staffers, reps and senators know better.

Bosch

Just having a little fun with conservative/liberal labels. Take the constitutional example “conservative justice, strict constructionist” who decides according to original intent. Then apply that concept to Jesus - original intent of God, as He was God. Therefore, He’s a conservative!

More later, gotta run as company’s still here, but Glen Larson, creator of original Battlestar Galactica, was LDS and wove many themes in. Lost tribes, Apostles, redemption, traveling towards Light, several notable episodes (beings of light who told Apollo “as you now are, we once were, as we now are, you may become.” The Patrick McNee embodiment of evil character “I cannot force the crew to follow me. The only power I have over them is the power they give to me.” Neat concepts.

Candlestick Maker

Jesus regularly taught/clarified from the Torah - and other texts, as illustrated on his walk with the two disciples after the resurrection. He had the correct understanding - the original - it was the religious establishment who mucked it up.

So yes, I agree with you. He taught and revealed Himself through the OT - and said the old was fulfilled. Hence all the battles with the early Judaizers and doing away with converts observing the Law.

Doobydo? Are you saying Sinatra’s in the Old Testament?!!?

Later, possibly. Good day, all.

By AmVet

April 3, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Satan, I must admit I have been fairly bemused by most of your “writings”.

Of course, the compliment was directed at McCain.

It is called standard written English.

Schilling shows much intellect when he realizes that the person not the Party, or even worse, the label, is what matter most.

I believe this concept may be lost on you…

By Glenn

April 3, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

@@ at 9:25, Dassagootwong. Were Mike Luckovich ever to run across George W. Bush and treat him as though he were the little jack-leprechaun of the drawings, George the Baptist would hand Luckovich something on a platter all right.

Say, would you be interested in running for Pr—-oh never mind…

You’re right about ML getting quite out of touch with events. I think he may be in a funk onnacounta his Hillary balloon fell from his cathedral ceiling and now lies shriveled and forlorn on the floor.

Guy needs a ticket to Disney World.

By RW-(the original)

April 3, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

{{{{“While I’m touched by Bill O’Reilly’s concern for our party, tell him not to worry. Unlike his show, where critics have their mics cut off and escorted out by Fox security, us progressive bloggers have no problem debating and disagreeing with each other,” Mr. Moulitsas said yesterday.}}}}

getalife,

Has Kos reinstated you?

By IHL-WPS

April 3, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Many leftists view Hillary as a sell-out because she claims to hold moderate views on some issues. However, Hillary is simply following Alinsky’s counsel to do and say whatever it takes to gain power.

Barack Obama is also an Alinskyite. Trained by Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation, Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project. Later, he worked with ACORN and its offshoot Project Vote, both creations of the Alinsky network.

Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer.

That Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama share an Alinskyite background tells us two things. First, they are leftists, dedicated to overthrowing our Constitutional system. Second, they will go to any length to conceal their radicalism from the public.

That is the Alinsky method. And that is today’s Democratic Party.

By mm

April 3, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Posterchildren for the GOP.

RB at 8:30

AJCM at 8:56

How can the GOP win in November with mouthpieces like these spewing their hate?

Thanks guys. You do more for the Dems than they could ever do for themselves.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Morning AmVet!

I don’t worry about McCain so much. While I do feel he is a complete Bushbot now, if he’s elected, he’ll be kind of irrelevant.

He only appears to be a Bushie lapdog now to pander votes. If elected, he’ll turn around.

The man is older than Moses and is not a force to be reckoned with. He’ll be eaten up (by Ted Turner - ha!).

Paul,

AHHHHHHHH, I see now.

By w00t

April 3, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

{{{By mm April 3, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this How can the GOP win in November with mouthpieces like these spewing their hate?

Thanks guys. You do more for the Dems than they could ever do for themselves.}}}

mm, they speak for god, so it’s ok.

By RW-(the original)

April 3, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Were it really true that comments by conservatives on a blog were pumping up her beloved Democrat(ic)s one would think (m)ental (m)idget would just quietly let it happen. Methinks RB and AJCM just hit a nerve.

By Glenn

April 3, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

IHL-WPS:

Aulinsky! What a trip down Spartacist Lane. I’d forgotten about the camo. You’re so right. There’s a romance of camo in that cult. Wow. Interesting. THAT is what just didn’t seem right about the guy. He’s not one who builds and then inhabits a political persona; he’s one accustomed to the feel of the camo.

In the homeland, desert camo is an honorable distinction; in the desert, a lie of indistinction. Our homeland is Barack’s desert.

By mm

April 3, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

RW,

You’re wrong, as usual.

Nobody, including myself, can take you wingnuts seriously. Ya’ll are good for laughs, though.

By AmVet

April 3, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Bosch, there was a great question at Wooten’s the other day.

Which of the three Democratic candidates is most likely to win the White House?

I laughed out loud thinking about how far these phony Republican “conservatives” have fallen in such a short time.

And the a$$-whipping is not yet over by a long shot. I predict the once Grand Old Party is going to lose numerous, maybe even many, more seats in Congress and several more governorships. Regardless of who wins the big prize.

But it is a fait accompli that when it comes to neo-con administrations we’re talking one and done…

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

To all other bloggers, forgive this post to Paul - if I had his personal email I’d just write him, but we don’t, so just scroll down - unless, of course, you like Battlestar Galactica like we do.

Paul,

Baltar = Jesus Baltar/Number Six = Adam and Eve Starbuck = Cylon Baltar = Cylon Last Cylon = Who?

Any thoughts?

Okay, here’s another question:

The first Cylon war ended 40 years ago - Colonel Tigh is older than 40 years old - did they just kill the real Colonel Tigh and replace him?

Do you remember that episode where Tigh was about to kill himself, and Bill Adama stepped in right in the knick of time before he did it? Coincidence? Bill Adama = Cylon?

Hmmmmm.

Did you see the RAZOR episode? I need to watch that again. They touched on the whole creation of Cylon/human thing, but I don’t remember.

By Jesus

April 3, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Devastator

April 3, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Sen. Barack Obama, second to none in the race for campaign cash, raised more than $40 million in March and boosted his vast network of donors to nearly 1.3 million, the campaign announced Thursday.

The amount is less than the record $55 million he raised in February, but still a sizable amount that sustains his place as the fundraising leader among all presidential candidates. The money gives him a substantial financial advantage over Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton as they compete for votes heading into the April 22 Pennsylvania primary.

Clinton is expected to have raised about $20 million in March, but her campaign has not announced any totals. Details of their March fundraising will be made public in official reports filed with the Federal Election Commission April 20.

The Obama campaign said it attracted more than 218,000 first-time donors in March.

“Many of our contributors are volunteering for the campaign, making our campaign the largest grass-roots army in recent political history,” campaign manager David Plouffe said.

Obama has been the candidate most successful at blending high dollar donors with small contributions by deft use of the Internet. He has had the highest number of donors contributing $200 or less.

“We knew that he was going to outraise us,” Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson said. “He has outraised us over the last several months.”

Wolfson said the campaign will have the resources they need to compete and be successful in the upcoming primaries. He pointed to Clinton’s base of support from online fundraising, saying she had raised about $1 million online on March 31.

Obama’s announcement comes as both Democrats return to a popular financial wellhead, raising money in California to help finance a heavy stretch of spending in April. With their race for the Democratic nomination showing no signs of ending, tapping donors for more cash has new urgency.

Obama has scheduled fundraisers at the homes of four different financial backers Sunday afternoon and evening in northern California. Clinton attended one fundraiser Wednesday in Silicon Valley, and had three planned for Thursday — in San Francisco, Pasadena and Los Angeles.

Most of the events are for donors giving the $2,300 maximum allowed by law.

Obama raised a record $55 million in February; Clinton raised $34.5 mil

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

McCain invests his ‘credibility capital’ in hiring lobbyists

By The Devil You Say

April 3, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

This is for all of you people who are for the overregulation and oppressive taxation of businesses and individuals advocated by Barak Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton. You libs always want to cite how they do things in Europe, so please read carefully. This is all well documented. Just Google ‘Celtic Tiger’:

Celtic Tiger (Irish: Tíogar Ceilteach) is a name for the period of rapid economic growth in the Republic of Ireland that began in the 1990s and slowed in 2001, only to pick up pace again in 2003 and then have slowed down once again by 2006. During this time, Ireland experienced a boom in which it was transformed from one of Europe’s poorer countries into one of its wealthiest. The causes of Ireland’s growth are the subject of some debate, but credit has been primarily given to free market capitalism: low corporate taxation; decades of investment in domestic higher education; a low-cost labour market; a policy of restraint in government spending;

By Devastator

April 3, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Carter all but formally endorses Obama

By AARON GOULD SHEININ The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 04/03/08

Former President Jimmy Carter came close to endorsing Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, leaving little doubt who the Georgia native will back as a party superdelegate.

Speaking to Nigerian reporters Wednesday in the town of Abuja, Carter responded to a question about the prolonged race for the Democratic nomination. “We are very interested in the primaries,” Carter said, according to the Nigerian newspaper This Day. “Don’t forget that Obama won in my state of Georgia. My town, which is home to 625 people, is for Obama. My children and their spouses are pro-Obama. My grandchildren are also pro-Obama. As a superdelegate, I would not disclose who I am rooting for, but I leave you to make that guess.”

Carter spokeswoman Deanna Congileo confirmed the former president’s remarks to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Thursday.

Carter was in Nigeria for a ceremony to celebrate the reduction of cases of Guinea worm disease to fewer than 10,000.

The former president is one of 13 Georgia superdelegates, those party leaders and elected officials who are free to support whichever candidate they choose. Of those 13, Obama currently has the support of seven; three are supporting Clinton and three are uncommitted.

Carter, U.S. Rep. Jim Marshall (D-Ga.) and DNC member and labor leader Richard Ray have yet to announce their choice.

By colbert loves libidiots

April 3, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

this is frightening.

—Of course, the big question is which Stephen Colbert will be here – the calm one on the telephone or the loud, animated, playful conservative character he plays on basic cable?—

—“[I’ll be] pretty much like I’m talking to you right now,” he said. “The weird thing about my character, even on the show, is sometimes I say what I mean. >>>It doesn’t matter to me that the audience doesn’t know when that is.<<<—

—Colbert realizes that some college kids get their news from satiric shows like his, which brings up a question he posed to Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz on a recent show: >>>“Do you really think that a late-night comedy show should have any influence on what goes on in politics?”<<<—

—>>>“No, I don’t think it should,”<<< responded Colbert.—

colbert just called libidiots his useful tools.

now that’s freaking hilarious -

and frightening!

By The Devil You Say

April 3, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

(By the way, Republicans too could learn a lot from what they have done in Ireland, especially on the spending side, but he most important thing here is taxes). To continue the previous post -

Many economists credit Ireland’s growth to a low corporate taxation rate (10 to 12.5 percent throughout the late 1990s), and to net transfer payments from members of the European Union like Germany and France that were as high as 4% of gross national product. Between 1997 and 2004, Charlie McCreevy, the Minister for Finance, pursued fiscal policies such as low taxation[3] and contributed to a dramatic reduction in public debt over the boom years.[4] He was voted Ireland’s best Minister for Finance in 2004 by Finance magazine.[5]

By RW-(the original)

April 3, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

(m)ental (m)idget,

After telling the world how the wingnuts are helping your Democrat party immensely and getting some return fire this is your response?

{{{Nobody, including myself, can take you wingnuts seriously.}}}

See why you’ve earned the name (m)ental (m)idget?

By getalife

April 3, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

RW,

Yes, banned again as “Daily Obama”. Been warned at MyDD to tone the attacks on Obama down and world famous troll at TPM. All for supporting Clinton.

Those so called progressives reminds me of the wingnuts with w. In their minds, Obama can do nothing wrong.

Anyhoo, her numbers are rising and they are starting to realize Obama will lose in the general. He can’t unite his party let alone our country.

I gave to the ACLU because they have done more on accountability than the whole spineless dem party. Not a penny for these spineless dems and will vote out all incumbents. I suggest the dems do the same or donate the charities.

Man, Yoo, Feith and Addington are real POS. Why in the world would w let a South Korean destroy our Constitution is beyond me.

Lets hope the world will hold them accountable in a court because all we have is the ACLU.

By getalife

April 3, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Aloha and ATA airlines have shut down. High fuel prices and safety have the airlines in deep trouble.

Of course, the hearings on the fed bailout for the corporate welfare of Bears and Sterns is all talk and he should be fired for this outrage.

I told you, they should demand the resignations of w and cheney because their destruction continues but they still get a free pass.

This should be unacceptable for the American people but there is still not a movement.

The so called progressives are too busy hating the Clintons.

By mountain man

April 3, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Andie hates the real America, that land of diversity and freedom. He’s in love with the myth of America that exists in his paranoid and psychotic little head.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

Shall we play a game?

It’s very simple. Which one of these statements is different from the rest?

“Capital punishment is our way of demonstrating the sanctity of life.” (Sen. Orrin Hatch)

“President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader scale.” (Alberto Gonzalez)

“It does not affect your daily life very much if your neighbor marries a box turtle. But that does not mean it is right … [N]ow you must raise your children up in a world where that union of man and box turtle is on the same legal footing as man and wife.” (Senator John Cornyn [speech draft])

“You know that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Iran? Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran… Ha Ha Ha Ha! Hee Hee Hee! Ho Ho Ho Ho!!!” (John McCain)

“We just want Jews to be perfected.” (Ann Coulter)

“I couldn’t get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia’s restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it’s run by blacks, primarily black patronship. … There wasn’t one person in Sylvia’s who was screaming, ‘M-Fer, I want more iced tea.’” (Bill O’Reilly)

“And so, General (Odierno), I want to thank you for your service. And I appreciate the fact that you really snatched defeat out of the jaws of those who are trying to defeat us in Iraq.” (George W. Bush—-last month)

I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the Day of Judgment, and I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans. (Evangelical Minister John Hagee)

Let me begin by thanking your founder, Pastor John Hagee. I would describe Pastor Hagee with the words the Torah uses to describe Moses, he is an “Eesh Elohim,” a man of God because those words fit him. (Joe Lieberman)

“The insurgency is in its last throes, if you will.” (Dick Cheney)

Answer: All of them were uttered by Republicans except #9. Joe Lieberman is still technically an “Independent.” For now.

Swell bunch, huh.

Cheers and Jeers starts in There’s Moreville… [Swoosh!!] RIGHTNOW! [Gong!!]

From Dai

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

We all anticipated this but…they lied

By Glenn

April 3, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Jesus @ ch. 11, v. 36:

When did you take up power politics, my Lord?

By Copyleft

April 3, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

“The Democratic left never apologized for its antiwar politics.”

Why should we apologize for being right? And since when is opposing senseless war something to “apologize” for, in ANY circumstance?

Did you apologize for supporting the Iraq invasion when it turned out there was no need for it, Andy? Somehow I doubt it—and yet you’re the one who’s been proven wrong. Demanding an apology from US, because we were RIGHT? You really are delusional.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Joint Chiefs: Change Course, Start Draft Or Lose Army

By The Devil You Say

April 3, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

getalife - you are WRONG. Obama is a much better candidate than Hitlery will ever be, but he will make a much poorer President, and I am voting for McCain. Hitlery cannot win. Too many people HATE her. People just don’t hate Obama. However, McCain is not so likeable himself, but he is Bob Hope compared to Hillary’s Cruella DeVil. However, Hitlery, like Bill le batard before her, at least will compromise when cornered. Obama has not actually learned that art. In fact, he is notorious in the Senate for having NEVER crossed political lines to reach any kind of consensus. He talks a good game, but in the end he is a rank partisan. There is nothing wrong with that, I believe that competition and partisanship are good things in a republic, that is what keeps us from becoming a dictatorship. All of this stupidity about ‘coming together’ etc… is really just that, crap. If all the politicians really did ‘come together’ then we would be in a heap of trouble and our freedoms would be gone in a heartbeat!

In the end, McCain still has an advantage at this point, but the most electable Demoncrat is Mr. Obama.

By getalife

April 3, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Great toon Mike.

They both have no clue about the economy

They both love war and they both get a free pass from the corporate media.

McWar=Draft.

By The Devil You Say

April 3, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Copyleft - You can refuse to apologize all you want, but that does not make you right. You are consistently WRONG! It’s not so much the socialist economics that make you wrong on this one, though. Pat Buchanan is wrong. Bob Barr is wrong. Charles Lindbergh was wrong. Senator Vandiver was wrong. Senator Taft was wrong. Senator J. William Fullbright was wrong. Pacifism is naive and in the end WRONG. It is all well and good to say that you are against war, but that is rather like saying you are against disease. It still happens and it is necessary to fight it. You might as well abolish hospitals because then we would have no disease. That is not my original line, Winston Churchill said that and was quoted in the ‘America’ series in the 1970s by Alistair Cooke.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

“Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God”

JESUS WRONG???

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Yeah, delusional:

{{{{On Sunday, Mr. Sadr called his men off the streets and demanded prisoner releases. A condition of the deal was that his followers get to keep their arms, though it’s unclear whether Mr. Maliki has agreed. Mr. Sadr’s goons are out of the alleys, but as of yesterday the Iraqi Army continued to arrest them. The chief of staff to the Iraqi Army, yesterday, according to wire reports, said his men were disarming the enemy and “Basra is under the control of our forces.”}}}}

Bwa.

~~~~~

al-Gitmo: I wouldn’t take that crap from those dudes at the Daily Kooks if I were you, fight back man:

{{{{Some say acrimony is rampant among liberal and progressive bloggers who debate the merits of the Democratic presidential candidates almost nonstop — the divisiveness potentially exacting a toll on the party itself.}}}}

Unleash your fury, oh righteous blogger.

By mm

April 3, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

RW,

Your 11:54 made about as much sense as the rest of the drivel you post.

I dismiss you wingnut morons as irrelevant and all you can do is call me some childish name?

Return fire? Your first post was just as lame. How can you hit a nerve when I’m not even a democrat. I’m also not a ‘her’.

Sounds more like I hit a nerve. You take yourself a little bit too seriously.

By The Devil You Say

April 3, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

getalife - get a clue! The last Republican President to institute a draft was Abraham Lincoln. Only Democrats believe in that kind of compulsory service. Republicans understand that those forced into service really don’t make the best soldiers, as a rule. Democrats think that government directives and mandates always work, but they rarely do.

By The Devil You Say

April 3, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

mm - if you are not a Democrat, then what are you? And please don’t say independent. You are about as independent as a drone bee.

By LeftMiddleRight

April 3, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Whatever would we do without Devastator and/or Apacalypse’s cut and paste DOS (Daily Obama Shill). Thaaaaanks.

Devil at 11:43: The most striking thing in that entire post is “decades of investment in domestic higher education” and “a policy of restraint in government spending.” Who says we can’t learn anything from others?

At 11:46: Any idea how they treat their off-shore businesses?

Get at 11:58: Not an isolated incident, but know it for what it is. The Obama supporters handily learned from the ‘00 and ‘04 example set by w supporters—flame, tag, ban, supress, shut down…it was the mental malpractice branch of the Rove/Con exercise to try and demean and demoralize…remember? It went something like this: You are WRONG. Anything you think is WRONG. Anything you might say or do is WRONG. Your candidate (Gore, Kerry, Clinton) is WRONG.

It’s tedious; mob mentality usually is.

By RW-(the original)

April 3, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

My apologies, (m)ental (m)idget), I thought you had told us you were a her once.

Why is that so hard to discern when a moonbat(ic)® is posting you wonder? <—rhetorical

Speaking of rhetorical, I wonder why you can’t resist any of my posts?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

April 3, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Demand McCain co-sponsor the new GI Bill

By The Devil You Say

April 3, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

LeftMiddleRight - you really missed the point. They were able to restrain spending and they were able to stress education because of the lowering of taxes. The Democrats want to raise them, ultimately on everybody. I also stated that the Republicans could learn from Ireland as well.

But when you get to education, there is no public pre-university education in Ireland. Everything is private and the government gives vouchers so parents can send their children where they want them to go to school. Problem children will have to be home schooled if they cannot be controlled. It doesn’t happen very much!

By LeftMiddleRight

April 3, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Wow, friggin’ WOW!

As I was just typing to Get, Devil shows up at 12:53 to illustrate my point exactly.

Thanks, Lucy-fer!

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Ugh, I go out for a bit, read through some of the posts, and come to the one at 12:53.

All those people are WRONG! WRONG, according to Mr. Devil.

That sushi I just ate is about to come back up.

By RW-(the original)

April 3, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I know this is just from mental impressions one gets from a blog, but I always picture you as living in a town of about a thousand with a general store/post office as the town center.

Please tell me that was catfish sushi.

By LeftMiddleRight

April 3, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Devil, you’re right.

I am missing the connection as to why restraining spending and investing for decades in higher education are so dependent on lowering taxes.

Please help me connect the dots.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

RW,

My general store sells the BEST catfish sushi around, and on lucky days we can also get crawfish sushi - that’s my favorite.

Whew, got too much wasabi and pickled ginger on that last bite though, and it almost came out my nose!

By RW-(the original)

April 3, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Thanks! I would’ve hated to have that mental picture broken up. Real wasabi? It sure pays to have the post office right inside the general store.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Wow, Ted Turner is getting some bashing today.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

RW,

No problem. Anytime I can help out. You are SO right about that post office inside the general store thing. The general store manager is the postmaster and sushi chef too which is REALLY convenient.

Of course real wasabi, what else? We may live in a small town, but we’re not hicks, man.

Have you ever tried crawfish sushi? It’s really good.

By RW-(the original)

April 3, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

He’s not named Sam Drucker is he?

Did you hear Ted’s cannibal rant? I’m not surprised he’s taking a little heat today, but it was pretty darned funny. Maybe the funniest was when he changed it from 10 years from now to 30 or 40 and then included himself among the rest of us that would be running around being cannibals. I don’t think Ted’s going to be doing too much running around in 30 or 40 years with or without global warming.

Have fun and say hi to Sam. I gotta go make a living.

Later!

By RB from Gwinnett

April 3, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Devil, Both mm and Bosch claim to not be Dems. I’m guessing somewhere in their simple minds (not always a bad thing, btw) they think by not choosing sides they’re somehow superior than the rest of us. More inclusive if you will. More welcoming of diversity. What they fail to realize is everyone who can read their posts can see they are dyed in the wool liberals. They can call themselves smoked salmon sushi if they want to, but they’re still liberals. The only people they may be fooling is themselves.

BTW, mm, you do know half of the Democrat party has below average intelligence, don’t you?

Anybody else enjoying watching goldie and getalife tear each other apart?

Getaclue. What do you mean by “corporate media”? Are you referring to the liberal left leaning mouthpieces of the Democrat party who will do anything in their power to destroy anything Republican, but just won’t support your beloved Hillary? Funny!

By mm

April 3, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

RW,

{{{Speaking of rhetorical, I wonder why you can’t resist any of my posts?}}}

Actually, I think it is you who can’t resist. See who addressed who first today.

Now go back to ruining the country along with your other wingnut friends.

Devil,

Yes I’m an independant. I have enough sense to choose candidates based on agenda, not their party. And I’m smart enough after 7 years of Bush to know the GOP agenda is not good for this country. Maybe after November when the GOP loses the Whitehouse, Congress, and governorships, they will return to a sensible agenda.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

RW,

No, not Sam Drucker, his name is Floyd, Floyd, Floyd something. I can’t remember. I think he’s a barber too. Man of many talents, but I’ll tell him hello for you anyway.

I think Ted’s rant was pretty darn funny too. People are taking him so seriously. He’s sitting around in his lithium fog, drinking scotch in his boxers and laughing his a$$ off at some of the comments I read.

I hope he’s not right. Human sushi wouldn’t be that tasty. Ugh. Another wave of nausea.

RB,

Um, yes, I am a liberal, but nope, not a member of a political party.

Do you need some attention today?

By mm

April 3, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

RB,

That’s the problem with you wingnuts. There’s no middle ground. How do I sound like a lib? Because I want an end to a war for oil? Because I want a balanced budget? Because I want companies to quit shipping jobs overseas? Because I’m against tax breaks for the rich?

I’ve not once endorsed Obama or Hillary. I just can’t support McCain because he supports the war and Bush’s tax cuts.

And BTW, based on the 30 percent who still support Bush, 30 percent of the Republican party has NO intelligence.

By w00t

April 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

What do we have here??

Scientists have produced further compelling evidence showing that modern-day climate change is not caused by changes in the Sun’s activity.

Look’s like another favorite myth of the global warming deniers bites the dust.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

w00t,

Keep up. It’s because of volcanic eruptions and because the planet is still forming - DUH!!!

Don’t you read?

:-)

By LeftMiddleRight

April 3, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Hey RB!

I’m guessing that mm and Bosch are tired of being labeled and lumped in with the extremists on both sides. That yin-yang whirlwind, which most people to this day still don’t understand, is tiresome.

And your statement that Dems have somehow cornered the market on dumbclucks just lost your side IQ points. I’ll remember that the next time some toothless hillbilly is on TV talking about how George W. Bush is a righteous man of God.

Getalife, keep scrapping with Goldie! I want your shirt torn completely off so I can see if you have good nipple placement.

Hubba!

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

w00t,

Oh, and the pixie dust - I forgot about the pixie dust - I heard that causes global warming too -

But yeah, try and keep up.

By Bruce, Colorado Springs

April 3, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

“And he’s a damn pinko.”

The cartoon has little to do with Obama, so why are your idiotic comments about him? Why are people so concerned that his wife is proud of her country for the first time? This country has had a history of treating minorities poorly.

I keep hearing people say, “I don’t think the country is ready for a black president.” What they mean is “I don’t think I’M ready for a black president.”

By RB from Gwinnett

April 3, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

Bosch, I never need attention from you, but thanks for the concern.

{{{Um, yes, I am a liberal, but nope, not a member of a political party.}}} Why is that Bosch? You think like a Democrat, you vote like a Democrat, effecively, you’re a democrat. So why do you get offended when people call you a democrat?

On the same vein, you call yourself a Christian, but you don’t believe in heaven or hell or that God created the earth and all of us in it.

You’re everything democrat, but claim not to be one, and you’re everything non Chritian, yet claim to be one. Interesting….

Btw, believing in Christ doesn’t make you a Christian. The devil believes in Christ too. See the difference?

By w00t

April 3, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

RB, first and foremost, YOU don’t get to judge people, or judge how Christian someone is. That’s not up to you to decide. You’re a mean little man that cares about nothing but yourself. You are the poster child for Hypocrisy. The way you treat individuals on this board and their thoughts is unjustifiable and goes against the teaching of Jesus.

You are no different than those that you claim to want to destroy. You have distorted the ideas of Christianity to justify your own means of your life. You are a fundamentalist at the core. Get a clue. You yourself have become an enemy to Christianity by dragging its good name through the mud with your distorted and dogmatic ideas of the world.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

RB,

I know that you feel that you are a far superior intelligent being than myself, but I need to ask you this:

How do Democrats think exactly?

Who do you know who I vote for? Do I need to call the police and have a restraining order sent to you, have you been following me and spying on me in the voting booth?

Please enlighten us with your brilliance. Hmmmm, can anyone here predict what RB is going to write?

Yawn.

See this is where I feel you are mistaken, being a Democrat is simple membership in a political party, nothing more, nothing less.

Being a conservative or liberal is a political idealogue - do YOU see the difference?

I’m actually quite conservative about many issues, but I like to think of myself as a liberal - the word just sounds better to me.

And while we are at it

Why do you feel the inherent need to tell me what I believe or what I believe is wrong, or to be so arrogant as to DEFINE Christianity for ME and billions of other people?

You do realize that’s what people like Hitler did, right?

By GreenJeans

April 3, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Bruce, howdy. We have some strange weather on the Front Range today, no?

In my experience, this blog has less to do with the cartoon of the day than it does politics, philosophy, religion and food.

I’ve lurked here for almost a year; posted first a couple of months ago. Some of the regulars’ love/hate history is long and complicated, so don’t get offended right away if you see some slanderous names batted about. It’s all in good fun, with the exception of a few unhinged trolls, but even they can turn into kittens at closing time.

Your comments pique my interest. One thing I’ve really wanted to do on this forum was ask some hard questions - even of myself - about race. But a few here are loaded for bear on the issue. Proceed with caution.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

GreenJeans,

AND if you are so inclined - Battlestar Galactica. Paul and I like Battlestar Galactica. We can talk about that if you like. :-)

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

From w00sies scare mongering link:

{{{{Over the course of one of the Sun’s natural 11-year cycles, there was a weak correlation between cosmic ray intensity and cloud cover - but cosmic ray variability could at the very most explain only a quarter of the changes in cloudiness.}}}}

Who said anything about “cloudiness?”

{{{{Dr Svensmark himself was unimpressed by the findings.}}}}

{{{{“He predicts much bigger effects than we would do, as between the equator and the poles, and after solar eruptions; then, because he doesn’t see those big effects, he says our story is wrong, when in fact we have plenty of evidence to support it.”}}}}

Which of course the BBC doesn’t bother to discuss.

11 year cycles, hmmmmm.

1998- hot year

2007- getting colder.

By Copyleft

April 3, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

The Devil You Read! You’re misunderstanding (I suspect deliberately) what was said.

First of all, it was addressed to DullDuh, not you.

Secondly, I didn’t say “opposing war is always right.” I said opposing the VIETNAM war was right… and opposing this one turns out to have been right as well. You went off into a rant about pacifism, as if every war is automatically righteous and justified.

You (should) know better than that.

By GreenJeans

April 3, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

“You are no different than those that you claim to want to destroy. You have distorted the ideas of Christianity to justify your own means of your life… You yourself have become an enemy to Christianity by dragging its good name through the mud with your distorted and dogmatic ideas of the world.”

You said a mouthful.

Can we get Chipotle to print that on their drink cups sold in Red states?

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Listen to the dimwit demokrat speaker of the house, a San Francisco freak, talk of things she knows nothing of, and fawns over America’s enemies:

{{{{“We have to know the real ground truths of what is happening there, not put a shine on events because of a resolution that looks less violent when in fact it has been dictated by al-Sadr, who can grant or withhold that call for violence,” Pelosi said.}}}}

Meanwhile, back on Earth, where everyone knows that Mookie ran from Basra to keep from being slaughtered:

{{{{Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Thursday he planned to launch more security crackdowns like the one in Basra against “criminal gangs” in Baghdad.}}}}

{{{{Addressing a news conference, he singled out Sadr City and Shula - two Mahdi Army militia strongholds in Baghdad - as likely targets in the future crackdowns, saying they were under the sway of “criminal gangs.”}}}}

{{{{He also announced the creation of 25,000 jobs in Basra and the spending of US $100 million to improve services in the city, Iraq’s second largest.}}}}

Pay attention, Blinky, see how a real government provides for it’s people and doesn’t get wormy with criminals and scumbags like you and Hairy do.

Stupid POS.

By mk

April 3, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

I don’t come here very often anymore because I can’t stand cAndie’s hate filled frothing rants. But, I does me good to visit every once in a while. It reminds me why I am on the other side of every issue. And it sustains me to know there is still a good fight to be had, the quashing of evil such as his. So much anger, so much hate, what a shame.

By getalife

April 3, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

“Faced with unprecedented filibusters, the only way to ensure Senate passage of the GI Bill is to get 60 cosponsors. So far, McCain has refused. The same McCain who insists he supports our troops.”

The gop does not support the troops. They abuse them. Take those flag pins off their suits and call them unpatriotic corporatists because that is what they are.

Scum.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Who is Mookie?

By getalife

April 3, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Al Sadr went to Iran and they told him to stop and march in protest. There will be a million Shiites marching in Iraq.

malarki is a lame duck and probably dead man walking.

Al Sadr and Iran rule Iraq dumbass.

By mk

April 3, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Mookie, would be yet another racist and hateful nickname…..

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Andy,

And Blinky. Whose Blinky?

By w00t

April 3, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Mookie is the the nickname give to Al Sadr.

By Bosch

April 3, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

w00t,

Okay, got cha! Nice post earlier, btw.

Got any idea who Blinky is?

By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) Loves Dikkk Cheney

April 3, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney.

Great cartoon, Mike. I love seeing my man MkkkKKKain with a bone in his mouth.

I can identify with that :>~~~

Kisses, Andiduh

By AmVet

April 3, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

getalife’s right at 3:50.

Robert Lopez served 8 years in our military, fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan as a tank commander. He was told he’d get his whole education bill paid for when he got out of the service. Mr. Lopez has fought and sacrificed for our country but like so many others, Mr. Lopez has faced the bleak reality of a government that has turned its back on its veterans.

That is why Senators Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel proposed the new GI Bill, which would bring back WWII-style standards of providing vets with full tuition, room and board. And that is why 51 senators have signed on, including 9 Republicans like John Warner, giving this GI Bill tremendous bi-partisan support.

But it isn’t enough. Faced with unprecedented filibusters, the only way to ensure Senate passage of the GI Bill is to get 60 co-sponsors. So far, John McCain has refused. The same McCain who insists he supports our troops. The same McCain who is voting lockstep with the Bush administration (who have also resisted this bill). We need to get John McCain to do the right thing — to sign now and signal to other Republican leaders that we should be strongly behind our vets.

Support our troops.

By Truthman

April 3, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

American Military being gouged in Iraq just like Americans at home.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/03/pentagon.gas.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Gosh, isn’t it great that Iraq has $60 billion in oil reserves, but the Bushitters say “they don’t know where to spend it!”

Bush: “Hooray, Oil!!”

Mendacity!!!

By Truthman

April 3, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Bush/Cheney/Rummy/Rice/Wolfowitz/Gonzales have always disrespected the troops.

None of them EVER SERVED, and they have no frame of reference (nor do they listen to people who have served, such as Colin Powell).

Can’t wait until they’re all up against the wall!!

By RB from Gwinnett

April 3, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

You know, it’s tiresome to listen to you Godless liberals rant on and on about what Jesus would and would not be proud of when it’s obvious you have no clue what’s in the Bible and have no relationship with our Creator.

Jesus called out sinners and told them to go and sin no more, yet you expect all Christians to ignore what goes on in the world and just love everybody. It doesn’t work that way. Jesus didn’t tell the prostitute at the well to have a nice day!

He also warned against false prophets and false teachings. Calling yourself a Christain while claiming there is no heaven or hell and God didn’t create the earth is false teaching. I’m not aware of ANY Christian religion that believes that. Yes, we disagree on many things such as service styles, saints, etc, but that’s a fundamental.

While I would love to have all of you come to a real relationship with our Saviour, I would also like to keep you from dragging this country into a moral cesspool which is exactly where you’re headed if left unchecked. I’d also settle for not being dragged into socialism if it wouldn’t be too much trouble.

By getalife

April 3, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Iraqis only pay $1.36 per gallon because of government subsidies. We subsidize oil companies with billions.

At the very least, stop subsidizing big oil.

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch April 3, 2008 3:54 Andy, Who is Mookie?}}}}

Blinky: Nancy Pelosi, a supreme dimwit, perhaps the greatest thing to happen to the Republicans since Ronald “God Bless His Soul” Reagan, who has earned her nickname because during Bush’s 2007 State of the Union, she sat completely bewildered at all of the big words being spoken, blinking furiously, like some blooming idiot.

Mookie: Short for Muqtada al Sadr, a Shiite Iraqi cleric who was chased from the country into some Iranian cave by the Americans, and who has the magical ability, at least according to the lib media, to produce glorious battle field victories after all of his men have either been slaughtered or instructed to run away and hide from their foes.

Any other questions?

By CandlestickMaker

April 3, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

Basra is the economic capital and lifeblood of Iraq.

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

Ahhhh, yes, another blistering hot April day in this world of global warming, a world in which we will all soon perish in flames, a day in which the wind chill factor must be, what, uh, wind chill factor?

Never mind.

By By Love

April 3, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

All right. I’ve thought that the arival of the refugee fleet occurred sometime during the early Egyptian dynasties. That’s because of the terminology, and the costuming, esp. in the orig. End result is a fusion of old Earth and Kobol, whattya think?

By GreenJeans

April 3, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

RB, your frustration is easy to understand. You’ve got the Creator locked in a little box, or book, rather, with “Holy Bible” printed on the side.

You don’t understand that the Divine is the Divine is the Divine, by any other name…Allah, Christ, the Rush of Tao…we’re all looking for the higher power, we’re all subject to the corruption of interpretation.

It seems that your biggest frustration is that others do not share your O-P-I-N-I-O-N, your path. You can’t seem to fathom that God’s larger, more beautiful and infinitely un-human-like being is a truth that probably reduces your narrow views to a false teaching.

Here’s another truth for you, hard as it may be to swallow: the more the Christian Right pushes their “morals” and sanctimonious beliefs, the more you stump your unwelcome witness to an increasingly resistant population, the harder the rebellious will push back.

Yin and Yang, as was posted earlier.

What seems to really be at the heart of your frustration is your loss of power. The days are over when most people in this country bow to religious authority figures, or believe in your religion “just because.” There are, as you say, too many false prophet authority figures in the world. And in this country, most of them come from your camp.

About the concept of heaven and hell…I was raised Baptist, and those things are hard to shake from my bones. But I know plenty of good, moral, caring, generous, peaceful (you know, that ol’ Example of Jesus thing) CHRISTIANS who just don’t buy the whole lake of fire thing anymore.

In my opinion, they are all of those good things simply because it is who they have become, not because they have some childish fear of burning in eternity.

But your biggest mistake is believing that others are “Godless” just because they don’t share your religious beliefs.

What an awful, fearful, shrinking world you live in.

By By Love

April 3, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

Global warming and freezing are part of the same process. As the temperature increases, more water vapor and energy is absorbed, as the process continues there will be melting and flooding issues. The real fun begins when all that water vapor increases earth’s albedo, and the sun’s heat is reflected back into space. Remember those mastodons frozen solid with green grass in their mouths? The tipover can happen that fast, bundle up now, hear?

By By Love

April 3, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

Greenjeans@6:11 WOW!!!! RIGHT ON!!!

By N-GA

April 3, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

I was able to use the “old” GI Bill to earn a Master’s Degree. Years later when the benefits were substantially changed, it was my understanding that base pay was increased to offset the need for GI’s to match government subsidies (an “education” account was built using gov’t funds matched by a GI’s payroll deduction). GI’s who chose not to have an education/GI Bill account still got the pay raise.

At least that’s what I think occurred. If that is indeed the case, then we need to be careful not to rush to judgement about McCain. I don’t care much for him (he’s really a Bush apologist), but I don’t want to take an issue that has been politicized and tar & feather him with it. After all, this is a “volunteer” army with big bonuses, etc. I liken it a little to a mercenary force…I appreciate what our soldiers are doing, but I think that their mission is the result of bad policy.

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

{{{{By By Love April 3, 2008 6:15 PM Global warming and freezing are part of the same process. As the temperature increases, more water vapor and energy is absorbed, as the process continues there will be melting and flooding issues. The real fun begins when all that water vapor increases earth’s albedo, and the sun’s heat is reflected back into space}}}}

Or it could just be a Canadian cold front sweeping through (are these freaking libs for real or what?)

By the way, genius, you don’t need to type in “by,” the blog software does that for you.

By TW

April 3, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Greenjeans 6:11 - Throughout history, there have been those in positions of power who have used organized religion for the sole purpose of keeping the populous in line, with no regard whatsoever given to the will of God. Today’s Republican party is no different. Keep in mind, however, that the reason they seek power and kneel before the god of mammon is that they are unable to see. One doesn’t see until they can see. The only human action that can possibly help them with this is the hitting of one’s knees. Forgive the Republicans, Greenjeans, for they know not what they do. Only our prayers can save them from the hell to which they have liberally punched their tickets these past seven years.

By By Love

April 3, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

Dear multiple personality idiot, it’s By Bye Love, is that too deep for you?

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

You’re missing an “e” then, dumbas-s.

By By Love

April 3, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

…and you’re missing a few candles on your cake, but nobody’s making an issue about it, are they?

By @@

April 3, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

Time to give credit where credit is due. The NATO Summit was a substantial success for the U.S. and Europe, and the Arab Summit was a failure for Iran and Syria.

If you’re an American, ‘ya gotta love it.

Sarkozy is working diligently for a more cohesive union of European countries, but not what has been known as the EU.

Cool.

By By Love

April 3, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

B’Bye, oh darn, now I’m missing TWO letters, but I did add an apostrophy!

By AJC Management

April 3, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

Oh, don’t pout.

I mean we all type in an extra freaking “by” every now and aga, wait a minute, no we don’t.

Freak.

By By Love

April 3, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

B’Bye, oh darn, now I’m missing TWO letters, but I did add an apostrophye!

By Glenn

April 3, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

TW,

The Party isn’t that unitary. I should know; my kind is in the cold. The subordination of many Republicans to the codes of conduct they derive from Abrahamic traditions is not a GOP exclusive, as you know. And in my experience, most GOP who want the Party to be congruent with God’s will want that not out of an attempt at ascendancy, but out of subordination to a higher power. There are terribly opportunistic phonies in this regard to be sure, but no more so than I’ve seen in the hierarchy of any big church or synagogue.

So you might want to consider the possibility that most Republicans who act religiously act that way because they are religious.

By By Love

April 3, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

This is just too much fun.

By TW

April 3, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Hello Glenn! I believe, by today’s standards, that ‘religious republican’ is what they call an ‘oxymoron.’

Collectively (until the real republican denounces the infiltration at the hands of the ‘w’ crime family and followers, he will remain under this unbrella), collectively the republicans have responded to the crisis of dead Iraqi civilians with a careless shrug of their shoulders. Personally, I just don’t see this to be a good example of a true believer. Also, don’t you find it at least a little ironic that republican’s choose to do God’s will when it won’t cost them anything more than the extension of their judgemental finger? Or are they mistakenly playing God?

Trust all is well with you, Glenn. Got an inside track on who the shining star on McCain’s list of 20 might be? Did Jeb’s brother kill it for him?

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