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By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

A Beretta 92, not bad.

Knowing the Klintoons, she’s probably got it loaded with wadcutters.

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{{{{As expected, one of the two major Democratic candidates saw a downturn in the latest NBC/WSJ poll, but it’s not the candidate that you think. Hillary Clinton is sporting the lowest personal ratings of the campaign. Moreover, her 37 percent positive rating is the lowest the NBC/WSJ poll has recorded since March 2001, two months after she was elected to the U.S. Senate from New York.}}}}

Bwa.

Drag that pig through the mud before she get’s gone.

Make it so she can never come back.

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The America haters went on a field trip:

{{{{Saddam Hussein’s intelligence agency secretly financed a trip to Iraq for three U.S. lawmakers during the run-up to the U.S.-led invasion, federal prosecutors said Wednesday. The lawmakers are not named in the indictment but the dates correspond to a trip by Democratic Reps. Jim McDermott of Washington, David Bonior of Michigan and Mike Thompson of California.}}}}

{{{{The three anti-war Democrats made the trip in October 2002, while the Bush administration was trying to persuade Congress to authorize military action against Iraq. While traveling, they called for a diplomatic solution.}}}}

Is this not an intentional undermining of the Executive Branch and, even more importantly, giving aid and comfort to the enemy?

On the enemy’s nickel, no less?

By Copyleft

March 27, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

Hillary seems to have talked herself into thinking she can get the nomination, over and above what the Democratic voters actually want.

Here’s hoping Bill or somebody can talk some sense to her soon. But hey, either way, we get a better (more liberal) president this November! Woo-hoo!

By mountain man

March 27, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

Hillary’s a two fisted woman lookin’ for a fight, that’s for sure. Too bad that it’s her own party that she’s kickin’ the a* of.

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Maybe if Bush had gone over himself, then he’d have seen with his own eyes there were no WMDs.

It’s all perspective.

Giving aid and comfort to the enemy? How do you figure that?

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

Oh, and the cartoon? It’s creepy!

By The Devil You Say

March 27, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Yes she lies, cheats, steals and has a nasty temper. She and her husband will stoop as low as possible and step on whomever they wish to achieve their objectives. These are trashy people elevated to high office by the primary voters of the Democrat Party with the active help of a sociopath named H. Ross Perot. Now you Democrats understand WHY we Republicans railed against these crooks for so long. These people are a study in mendacity and perfidity. However, it is coming out that Mr. Obama is at least as perfidious when it comes to much of his rather sketchy record as a United States Senator. McCain also has some exaggerations in his Senatorial resume, but these are minor compared to the whoppers being told on the Democrat side. Folks, it is a question of character as we always said.

Before you get self-rightious and start screaming Larry Craid and Mark Foley or David Vitter, I suggest you look in your own closets at the LIVING skeletons. The Republicans have NOT defended these (and other) miscreants. When discovered they are told to leave. Craid and Vitter cannot be forced out, but they certainly do not have the approval to stay. Kennedy and Franks are still in Congress. Garry Studds stayed until he voluntarily retired. Robert Byrd is a continuing embarassment and living corpse on the Senate floor.

We were told for years by you on the left that character does not matter. Now to borrow a well turned phrase - your chickens are coming home TO ROOST!

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

Well, at least Bob Barr agrees with me:

“On Iraq:

“What we’ve fallen into in recent years — not just since 9/11, but particularly since 9/11 — is this notion that, in order to protect ourselves, we have to preemptively go into and — in the case of Iraq — occupy another sovereign nation,” Barr said. “Simply saying, ‘Gee, it’s better to fight over in this other nation and destroy another nation, so we’re not potentially attacked here, is the height of arrogance.”

Thanks Bob! I hope he does run for President.

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Hmmmmm -

“These are trashy people elevated to high office by the primary voters of the Democrat Party with the active help of a sociopath named H. Ross Perot. Now you Democrats understand WHY we Republicans railed against these crooks for so long. These people are a study in mendacity and perfidity.”

And if we just change the words around a bit:

“These are trashy people elevated to high office by the primary voters of the REPUBLICAN Party with the active help of a sociopath named KARL ROVE. Now you REPUBLICANS understand WHY we RATIONALLY MINDED PEOPLE railed against these crooks for so long. These people are a study in mendacity and perfidity.

There, that sounds better.

By Goldie

March 27, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

I don’t think that allowing the remaining primary races to continue through June will “hurt the party” — for once, all Dems in all states can have a say in who our nominee is for the November ticket. After the final primaries and caucuses are held in June, the candidate with the most votes and most pledged delegates should be our nominee! We will still have plenty of time to mount our General Election campaign against McBush — the Repug Party is weak and a very easy target to hit, and the Dems should have no problems whatsoever getting the majority of American voters to vote overwhelmingly for the Dem candidate.

Howard Dean has been promising the Dems that we would have a 50-state strategy and the primary races have started that process.

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch March 27, 2008 8:18 AM Andy, Maybe if Bush had gone over himself, then he’d have seen with his own eyes there were no WMDs.}}}}

Bosch: So what was Bill Klinton bombing in Iraq?

{{{{Giving aid and comfort to the enemy? How do you figure that?}}}}

Remember that Constitution that you libs like to say that Bush “shredded:”

{{{{Under the Constitution, the president is the federal official primarily responsible for the relations of the United States with foreign nations. The president appoints ambassadors, ministers, and consuls — subject to confirmation by the Senate — and receives foreign ambassadors and other public officials. With the secretary of state, the president manages all official contacts with foreign governments.}}}}

These three wormy demokrat senators acted on the behalf of a country that the United States had been at war or in conflict with for over 15 years.

And they clearly gave aid to the enemy, a genocidal dictator that was a menace to the entire region, Israel included.

I say we hang them by the neck until they are dead.

You may hate the United States but I don’t.

By Goldie

March 27, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Dubya’s administration is the one who has given “comfort to the enemy”, by not going after and capturing the Al-Qaeda members responsible for attacking us on 9/11… they cut-n-ran from the real fight in Afghanistan and Pakistan back in ‘02 and allowed the jihadist movement to grow exponentially all over the world! Instead, they decided to follow the Neo-con agenda of invading and occupying Iraq, and they are responsible for the ever-growing anti-America sentiment due to our occupation there!

By libs are dreamers

March 27, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Rasmussen Poll 3/26/08 -

Overall favorable rating of candidates.

John McCain - Favorable 55% Unfavorable 42%

Hillary Clinton - Favorable 44% Unfavorable 54%

Barack Obama - Favorable 46% Unfavorable 51%

McCain leads against both Democrat candidates -

McCain 50% - Clinton 43%

McCain 51% - Obama 41%

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

As usual, none of you get the cartoon, or Wooten’s piece either.

The great question before us is whether the black community wants god to damn america for injustices real or perceived that span generations and generations and generations of black community.

The great question before us is whether god should damn america for the same reason.

Did we invent a country or didn’t we? If we cant talk about the black community’s experience openly and without political liability, then our country was not brought forth, but imposed.

Obama 08. Impose this.

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Goldie March 27, 2008 8:44 AM Instead, they decided to follow the Neo-con agenda of invading and occupying Iraq, and they are responsible for the ever-growing anti-America sentiment due to our occupation there!}}}}

Blah, blah, blah.

Golduh:

{{{{Overall 94 percent have an unfavorable view of al Qaeda, with 82 percent expressing a very unfavorable view. Of all organizations and individuals assessed in this poll, it received the most negative ratings. The Shias and Kurds show similarly intense levels of opposition, with 95 percent and 93 percent respectively saying they have very unfavorable views. The Sunnis are also quite negative, but with less intensity. Seventy-seven percent express an unfavorable view, but only 38 percent are very unfavorable. Twenty-three percent express a favorable view (5% very).}}}}

Do you have nothing better to do than sit in here like a blooming babbling idiot, hating on your country from the safety within the protection of her borders?

Mental.

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Andy,

“Bosch: So what was Bill Klinton bombing in Iraq?”

Sorry, not following you with that.

So, were these Senators acting solely on behalf of the U.S.? Probably not - they may have been trying to stop a war. That seems like a better interest to the public (and turns out they were right) than the non-sensical and inaccurate rhetoric Bush was feeding to Congress.

It’s all a matter of perspective.

Oh, and your wrong, I love my country - and not so cowardly as to put other lives before mine in fighting my enemy. Remember, I’d be willing to fight al-Qaeda here - and if your not willing to take up arms to defend your home, if you’d be willing for more Iraqis to die fighting OUR enemy, I call that cowardice.

Remember, it’s all about perspective.

By @@

March 27, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Well I’ve known for some time that Dem Donkeys are easily led to slaughter but it’ll take Hillary to put them “in the can”.

Contaminated “dog food”.

What a shame!

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Love the donkey’s two front teeth. now that’s high comedy

By w00t

March 27, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Wow, the republicans sure do know how to spend some money.

And we’re always told its the Dems fault. Yeah, right…

By AmVet

March 27, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

That’s it!

I’m canceling my subscription!

When is the scribbler EVER going to poke fun at the Republican “conservatives”.

{{{{Curly}}}}},

FOR THE SECOND TIME, people don’t hate this country.

They hate you.

Just kidding.

They love ya man.

Yesterday someone posted a link “refuting” the Frontline program “Bush’s War”.

I truly appreciate and respect that this person, with a differing opinion on the invasion/occupation, had the open-mindedness and backbone to actually watch a program, that they probably fundamentally disagreed with, and then posted a link with a cogent, lucid response.

This is EXCEPTIONALLY rare among the otherwise intentionally ignorant apologists here.

When I have finished reading it, I will rebut the counter-arguments made therein.

Tally Ho!

By DUBYA

March 27, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Once again drunken Bush has made a pronouncement from the safe confines of the Pentagon that the US is ‘winning the war in Iraq.” In that building it is unacceptable to question the commander-in-chief no matter how dense or self-deluded he is. Then the alcoholoc sent Cheney to Baghdad on the aniversary of their misbegotten, murderous adventure in order to boost the troop morale. A surprise visit by The Man Who’s Never Been Right. That Mad Man announced Iraq as beeing a “successful endeavour.” Compared, I suppose, to the landing of the Hindenburg. Currently the Bush-Cheney-Repug rodeo is sapping US taxpayers between $8 billion and $12 billion a month - just what a battered and shaking economy needs. We thank all of you bewildered Bushies for your goose-stepping support towards the final US knockdown. God bluss Murcuh. Allah akbar! Stand proud.

By why

March 27, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

does the idiot bosch even show up here?

””-By Bosch-“”

“Bosch: So what was Bill Klinton bombing in Iraq?”

””-Sorry, not following you with that-“”

Bill Clinton bombs Iraq

””-The international community had good reason to set this requirement. Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq.-“”

””-The international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again.-“”

Sheesh!

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

The Sunnis once ruled Iraq. We invaded and cast the Sunnis out of power. None of you realize that fact. that’s how ignorant you are. Your eyes are glazed over now just reading about the sunnis.

Winston Churchill was trapped in Iraq in the 1920’s. He put the Minority Sunni’s in charge and they persecuted the Shia Majority for seventy five years until we liberated the Shia Majority from Sunni Saddam. Now, we are fighting those same Shia Majority we just saved and got elected.

Of course we’d have to side with one or the other. Some of us, a handful of americans, knew exactly that this would happen. our five year old blogs are our proof. But saddam was an evil guy, he gassed his own people,

The Kurds aren’t going to like this, Yogi……

Remember, the sunnis were in charge. We didn’t liberate them, we attacked the sunnis. It was the sunnis we cast out. They ruled. Not one of you knows that, or had the intelligence to deduce it. You all need to Know how ignorant you are, and being reminded by me is why you all hate me. Good. If I was acceptable to you, I’d stick my head in the toilet.

We didn’t liberate the sunnis. Memorize that line. We didn’t liberate the sunnis. We invaded the sunnis and destroyed their government. Sunnis. We attacked them.

We liberated the shia, who it just so happens, we are fighting now! why? ask churchill, he’d say, “because they’re shia!”

Lunatic shia. cant deal with shia. that’s why sunnis should be in charge, and why we’ve picked them and aligned army with them. Sunni good. Good sunni. You’re not monsters, you’re good boys…you’re good sunnis…..(camera to sunnis crying because we finally understand them..)

any Q’s? Why not, there’s Plenty of A’s.

By The Devil You Say

March 27, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Bob Barr could do nothing right when he was in Congress according to you on the left, and now that he takes an isolationist/appeasement position on Iraq. I really thought that the Taft/Lindbergh wing of the Republican Party was dead and buried, but they keep trying to come back - and then we make ‘em leave. You Democrats just embrace your kooks and make them National Party Chairman!!!

By The Devil You Say

March 27, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

AJC Management - I agree with you, but lets get all of the facts in order. The three treasonous members of Congress were not Senators, but long time radical leftist HOUSE members, among them were the rabidly anti-American Jim “Red” McDermott from Seattle and David Bonior of Michigan, the one Time Majority Whip!

By Goldie

March 27, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

AmVet @ 9:12 — you’re assuming that the poster yesterday was actually telling the truth in claiming that he had actually seen the “Frontline” program… you’re quite the generous person, aren’t you?

For someone to be able to view the actual video footage and interviews of Dubya’s admin. officials, and then to state that it was only leftist propaganda — well, I want to remind that poster of Stephen Colbert’s words: “Reality has a well-known liberal bias!”

By Glenn

March 27, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

HOMOduh/ajc mgt and Devil are vomiting up their very best again today. Both stay up all night to be first-to-post. Is that…normal behavior? Homo, now that you’ve changed your name, tell us again of how you”have served my country.” That didn’t used to be the case, but came w your new name. Tell us, tell us.

By Truthman

March 27, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

A great letter to the editor in today’s fine AJC:

‘Barbie’ case shows color of justice

When I heard that the “Barbie Bandits” would be sentenced, I thought: We will see if the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s theology has any merit. It does! When one young blond bank robber is given only probation, her sentence does not fix the crime. The scene from a Malcolm X movie keeps coming to mind. When Malcolm X and his friend and their two white female companions are in court, Malcolm X and the black friend are given hard time. The females are given probation. Look at this current case. Who is serving the hard time? I don’t understand how these two young women could commit the same crime and only one has to serve time. This is the type of justice that drives Wright to deliver messages that remind us that there are two different justice systems in this country, one for (white) well-connected folks and one for the poor (black) folks with no connections.

BEVERLY EPHRAIM, Lithonia

Beverly, I couldn’t have said it better myself!!

P.S. To Andi - Even you candidate McCain says we the American taxpayer should not bail out the failing banks!

Since I advocated the same thing Tuesday on this site, and, of course, you refuted it, are you now a believer because your candidate, John McBush, says the same thing as me - a liberal, pantywaist, bedwetting, tree-hugging progressive?

Well…we’re waiting!?!

By The Devil You Say

March 27, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Analcord - where in the world did you get your facts? Churchill had very little to do with the reorganization of Iraq. He lost office in 1922 and did not return until 1924 and then as Chancellor of the Exchequer. He had no colonial policy responsibilities at that time. Britain did mess up in the Middle East, though. The only thing they did right was the Balfour Declaration. They should have left the rest of the area under Turkish control!

By Goldie

March 27, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

w00t @ 9:08 — the Repugs love to borrow & spend… and they never want to actually pay for their spending habits. Heaven forbid that they should even pay for these wars that they love!

By Copyleft

March 27, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Only in DullDuh Andy’s fevered imaginary world could calling for diplomacy be considered “treason.” What silly, pathetic world it would be, in Andy’s fantasy-land!

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Andy @9:14 -

All that article tells me is that the neo-con theory that Bill Clinton never did anything to combat terrorism is a complete farse (as if I didn’t know that already).

Nowhere in that article did it say anything to indicate that Saddam was planning on using these weapons on AMERICAN citizens.

You see, it’s always been my position that we should not be the world’s police. When we allow others to become complacent that the United States will take care of all the world’s woes, then everyone else gets lazy and we become the main enemy of extremists - like say, for example, al-Qaeda.

So, in 1998, Saddam Hussein had WMDs and had used them on his own people -I never said the man wasn’t an evil SOB and deserved what he got.

That was atrocious, and I’m glad the man got his comeuppance.

But here’s a question, and this I don’t know, maybe you can tell me - was the 1998 bombing in Iraq successful? Did we accomplish our stated goal?

But in March 2003, he was not an immediate threat to the United States of America.

Your article proves nothing, oh, except that Bill Clinton did actually do something to combat terrorism.

Next!

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch March 27, 2008 8:56 AM Oh, and your wrong, I love my country - and not so cowardly as to put other lives before mine in fighting my enemy. Remember, I’d be willing to fight al-Qaeda here - and if your not willing to take up arms to defend your home, if you’d be willing for more Iraqis to die fighting OUR enemy, I call that cowardice.}}}}

Bosch: “why” answered your first question at 9:14 quite well, I’d like to add to it that I have no doubt that you don’t follow along with why Bill Klinton bombed Iraq, mostly because you weirdly put your political party before the welfare of your own country.

And as for part two of your query, see “Oil for Food,” and ask yourself why it was O.K. back then to kill Iraqi children so that France, Russia and Bill Klinton presidential library donors could make a “killing” off of oil money.

I can’t seem to remember you whining very much about that.

Islamic extremists, if I were to take a guess, would mostly be found in the regions surrounding Mecca and Medina, and a great place to find them and kill them would be as close as you can get to Mecca and Medina.

As you may or may not have noticed, that idea seems to be working quite well.

Finally, and most importantly, American and coalition troops do not target innocent civilians like al Qaeda and the Mahdi army does.

This is the most absolute basic truth about our mission and I think it is rather sick of you to suggest otherwise.

From day one of the mission to remove a regime from power that had the potential to kill large numbers of innocent American civilians, we have gone out of our way to minimize collateral damage, including putting our soldiers at undue risk.

What YOU do, everyday, when you badmouth them and their mission, is incite anger and animosity against them, further putting their lives at risk, angering people who want to kill them because they don’t hear the TRUTH about our soldiers but instead only hear your sick, stupid, disgusting lies about those brave men who risk their lives every day so that you can live free.

STFU, please.

By Truthman

March 27, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Bosch, don’t confuse Dunce-boy with facts! It makes him wet the bed!

Remember the 1993 WTC bombing?

Let’s review: Six killed, thousands overcome with smoke. Within three years, all perpetrators behind bars.

Who was president? WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON!!!

Oh no, quick, Andi, the Depends!!

By AmVet

March 27, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Goldie, granted I do tend to take people at their word. Not always the best choice, I suppose, but the alternative is to be like the lunatic fringe here who is so paranoid EVERYTHING they don’t want to hear is a “lie”.

What I’ve read of the “analysis” and refutations in the link is very tepid to say the least and will demonstrate so later.

Bob Barr was IMHO another embarrassment to the state of Georgia while he served in Congress. Whether he could not do anything right is up for debate.

But only in the world of the “Cheney Doctrine” disciples was implementing and maintaining an enormous no-fly zone, years of inspectors and a forced trade embargo considered isolationist/appeasement….

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Obama Speaking On The Economy Today, With Introduction By Bloomberg

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Hmmm, interesting -

it seems our 1998 bombing campaign was pretty successful:

Of the 100 targets on the list for Operation Desert Fox in Iraq, 87 were hit. A breakdown of the seven categories and their key areas is as follows:

COMMAND AND CONTROL: 18 of 20 targets hit

Abu Rajash, Jabul Makhul, Radwaniyah, Republican (Baghdad), Sijood palaces Ba’ath party headquarters Iraq Intelligence Service headquarters Ministry of Defense Ministry of Industry Presidential Secretariat Building State radio and television

WMD INDUSTRY AND PRODUCTION: 12 of 12 targets hit

Biological Research Center (Baghdad University) Ibn al Haytham missile R&D center Karama electronics plant Al Kindi missile R&D facility (Mosul) Shahiyat liquid engine R&D, T&E facility Zaafaraniyah fabrication facility (Nidda)

WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION (WMD) SECURITY: 18 of 18 targets hit

Directorate of General Security headquarters Special Security Organization (SS0) headquarters Special Republican Guards (SRG) headquarters SSO Communications/Computer Center SSO/SRG barracks (Abu Ghraib, Radwinyah, Baghdad, Tikrit)

REPUBLICAN GUARDS: 9 of 9 targets hit

ECONOMIC: 1 of 1 targets hit

Basra refinery distribution manifold

AIRFIELDS: 5 of 6 targets hit

AIR DEFENSES: 24 of 34 targets hit

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

{{{{{When I have finished reading it, I will rebut the counter-arguments made therein.}}}}}

Translation: When someone writes something rebuting the story David Goyer….err Blowhard will plagiarize it and post it here.

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Copyleft March 27, 2008 9:34 AM Only in DullDuh Andy’s fevered imaginary world could calling for diplomacy be considered “treason.” What silly, pathetic world it would be, in Andy’s fantasy-land!}}}}

“Diplomacy” outside the boundaries of the United States Constitution, eh?

And I hate to break the news to you, dimwit, but Bush was employing “diplomacy” through the United Nations, duh, and did so for nearly a year before he “rushed to war.”

You silly little hysteritics need to get your stories straight.

You only fool yourselves.

Speaking of which, Devil, I “misspoke” when I said Senator, er, I mean I’m a little “sleep deprived,” um, I’m sorry, I’m just “human.”

~~~~~

{{{{By Truthman March 27, 2008 9:43 AM Remember the 1993 WTC bombing? Let’s review: Six killed, thousands overcome with smoke. Within three years, all perpetrators behind bars.}}}}

Oh yeah, we showed them, hoo boy, it sure did “deter” anybody else from taking a shot at the WTC.

Moron.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

TPMtv: McCain’s Achilles Heel

By Steve

March 27, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Ignorant Repunk followers. The Surge so-called “success” has always been nothing more than a polite backing-off of al Sadr & his forces. No more, no less. Out of the goodness of his great heart! American clowns react feverishly to his every breath. How many al Sadrs do you goons think exist in Iraq?? How many can/will spring up overnight when they are in the mood? You are pitiful. Your little hands drip with blood. As always, it is the blood of…others. You have no stomach or scrotum for a fight.

By harold

March 27, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

“You see, it’s always been my position”

Why don’t you tell us all about your position? We care NOT! You don’t debate you Chatty Cathy you. U-U-U MyKevinSpacey moron.

Do yourself a favor - NO! DO US ALL A FAVOR AND GET LOST! Cut the umbilical cord YOU Umbicilic Echo

echo

echo

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echo GNAT!

By The Devil You Say

March 27, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Goldie - as so many of you liberals have complained lately, both in the Obama and Clinton camps, about cutting and pasting sound-bites and interviews. Fahrenheit 9/11 was just such a rediculous hit-job. I know you worship at the stomach of Michael Moore, but the guy is full of hypocritical bull. And anything on Frontline is automatically suspect. Twisting the facts is something that people on both sides do. It is never honorable.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

McCain on the Red Phone

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Andy,

“STFU, please”

You’d like that wouldn’t you?

I’ll never shut the fvck up and neither will those like me. Get used to it.

“I’d like to add to it that I have no doubt that you don’t follow along with why Bill Klinton bombed Iraq, mostly because you weirdly put your political party before the welfare of your own country”

If you’d come out and said what you meant in the first post, I wouldn’t have to guess now would I?

But Bill Clinton DID bomb Iraq - and from the looks of things, did a pretty good job wiping out their WMDs.

“I can’t seem to remember you whining very much about that”

Did we know each other back then? I don’t recall knowing anyone named Andy.

“Islamic extremists, if I were to take a guess, would mostly be found in the regions surrounding Mecca and Medina”

You mean like in Saudi Arabia? Then why the hell are we in Iraq?

“American and coalition troops do not target innocent civilians like al Qaeda and the Mahdi army does.

This is the most absolute basic truth about our mission and I think it is rather sick of you to suggest otherwise”

And I suggested that WHERE? Now your just making sh!t up in an attempt to make me look bad. What a cowardly thing to do.

“From day one of the mission to remove a regime from power that had the potential to kill large numbers of innocent American civilians”

The regime is gone……now what?

“we have gone out of our way to minimize collateral damage, including putting our soldiers at undue risk”

I know that Andy, and I never suggested anything different. The Iraqi people have suffered tremenduously fighting OUR enemy - maybe it’s time to give them a break. I’m ready, are you?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

McCain Recycles 2001 Pro-War Column For 2008 Speech

By AmVet

March 27, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Yes {{{{ricky-the aboriginal}}}}, and you ostriches will have nary a clue what any of us are even talking about.

You obviously took personally - …had the open-mindedness and backbone to actually watch a program, that they probably fundamentally disagreed with, and then posted a link with a cogent, lucid response.

This is EXCEPTIONALLY rare among the otherwise intentionally ignorant apologists here.

And you are correct.

It absolutely defines you. And even you couldn’t mistake that.

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Churchill needed to convert his navy to oil from coal. He targeted Iraq, recently formed by a convoluted alliance with the french. No, churchill didn’t personally put the sunnis in power when England cut and run from iraq after a dozen years, but that’s a minor point that only a rocket scientist like you would bring up when we’re talking about the worst military decision since napolean waited for the mud to dry at waterloo.

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

harold,

Do you have a problem with the First Amendment?

By getalife

March 27, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Worst toon ever Mike.

Funny, how BO is just now spewing about the economy.

Clinton lead when he cut and ran to the beach.

Lazy and late to the party as usual.

Of course, Mike will never draw this fact.

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Polly’s silly comments aside the first amendment only applies to government control over your freedom of speech. You actually have no rights on someone’s blog and they could freely ban you anytime they wanted.

David Goyer…err Blowhard,

Unlike you I don’t like to fritter away countless hours on meaningless pursuits all day. I’ll have some time this weekend and I’ll try to watch your TV show. I’d be willing to bet that there isn’t a single new revelation in it though and I’d also be willing to bet it violates the PBS policy on showing all sides of the story. (Like they ever care about that policy when you leftists film anything)

Off to those meaningful pursuits.

Later!

By Truthman

March 27, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

I know that is not “getalife!”

Someone has hijacked his/her moniker!

Go away, troll!! You are NOT wanted!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

McCain on the Housing Crisis: Quick, Do Nothing!

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch March 27, 2008 10:04 AM But Bill Clinton DID bomb Iraq - and from the looks of things, did a pretty good job wiping out their WMDs.}}}}

Aaaaahhahahahahahaha.

Say, Bosch, did no Iraqis “suffer greatly” in the rain of bombs that Klinton unleashed?

Or is that suffering somehow now understandable?

You are a little two faced, America be damned, demokrat party loving hack.

You can’t even keep your own story straight.

{{{{This is the most absolute basic truth about our mission and I think it is rather sick of you to suggest otherwise” And I suggested that WHERE? Now your just making sh!t up in an attempt to make me look bad. What a cowardly thing to do.}}}}

Uh, can you not comprehend either?:

{{{{By Bosch March 27, 2008 8:56 AM Remember, I’d be willing to fight al-Qaeda here - and if your not willing to take up arms to defend your home, if you’d be willing for more Iraqis to die fighting OUR enemy, I call that cowardice.}}}}

This is sheer idiocy to even say such things, blooming, bright shining ignorance on full putrid display.

Saddam Hussein was averaging about 150,000 murders a year, why do I have to explain this?

That’s a 120,000 times 5 that HAVEN’T been murdered, what in the F don’t you suck as-s sissy liberals understand about this?

Not to mention, the 30,000 Iraqis being killed every year are from the guns, bombs and knifes of Islamic extremists, who place absolutely no value at all on human life.

Are you really this stupid?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Can the Bush Administration Run a War? (You Know the Answer)

REMEMBER

By tiff

March 27, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

libs are dreamers 8:53 a.m. post, RE: About that dream you were having about McCain being more favorable than Obama. When you woke up and found you were back in Kansas, I bet you wanted to just cut your throat. Tip: If you hit the big vein, it’s very quick and somewhat painless.

By The Devil You Say

March 27, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Analcord - Your name beget my sarcastic but accurate response to your VERY inaccurate assertion. And it was not until the 1930s that Iraq’s oil became any kind of issue. Like most liberals, you love to play fast and loose with the facts.

By Jesus

March 27, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Ralph

March 27, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Bush, w that usual goofy grin, has just puked up another Alice-In-Wonderland diatribe about how great things are in Iraq. It must be heard to be believed. One of his best yet. Quite incredible. Lists all the positive, successful things taking place throughout Iraq, even as most of our troops are limited to hiding in the Green Zone. BushDrunk gives this lie, of course, from the protection of the Air Force Museum, as he does not dare to do so in…”public.” By all means, take time to look, listen to the latest from this alcoholic megalomaniacal moron who represents Republicans everywhere so perfectly. Praise Geesussa!

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Andy,

“Saddam Hussein was averaging about 150,000 murders a year, why do I have to explain this?

That’s a 120,000 times 5 that HAVEN’T been murdered, what in the F don’t you suck as-s sissy liberals understand about this?

Not to mention, the 30,000 Iraqis being killed every year are from the guns, bombs and knifes of Islamic extremists, who place absolutely no value at all on human life.

Are you really this stupid?”

No, Andy, we know that. And I think you are conveniently overlooking what I wrote about how I never said Saddam wasn’t a sadistic SOB who got what he deserved.

And I think you are a coward if you are not willing to defend your homeland and face your own enemy.

And I also think it is irresponsible of our country to continue with this complete farse of an occupation, where thousands of Iraqi civilians are getting killed in the crossfire - just like they were getting killed by Saddam Hussein. THEIR enemy is DEAD! OURS ISN’T.

And to suggest that I hate my country because I believe that? What a twisted mind you must have. I’m willing to make sacrificies, you are not.

Yes, these people have suffered enough at the hands of these extremists and lost thousands. Now, I say, we get them over here where every other American has a gun, and would probably share one with those of us who don’t, and take them on over here, on our land, on our soil.

If this is so damned vital to all Americans, then ALL Americans should share in the defense and own it, since our very lives and existence as a nation depends on our defeating this enemy.

We cut them off from their resources, break their will, and then they can go visit their virgins.

We need to stop letting these people die at the hands of these extremists and put our money where our mouths are.

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

{{{{According to the FEC, FECA “prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment.”}}}}

{{{{The question now is whether Elton John is contributing “indirectly” to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and whether the candidate herself has sought to “solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations” from a foreign national, which is unlawful.}}}}

Jail time.

Bwa.

By mm

March 27, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Hilarious. Hillary certainly has the Dem party at gunpoint. She needs to bow out (it’s too late to bow out gracefully).

But her stubborness has actually helped with Dem voter registration and turnout.

That’s bad news for McBush.

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Lord, I overlooked this part of Andy’s last post:

”{{{{By Bosch March 27, 2008 8:56 AM Remember, I’d be willing to fight al-Qaeda here - and if your not willing to take up arms to defend your home, if you’d be willing for more Iraqis to die fighting OUR enemy, I call that cowardice.}}}}

This is sheer idiocy to even say such things, blooming, bright shining ignorance on full putrid display.”

Tell me why that is ignorant, see if you can do it without hurling insults if you are so capable.

Would you be scared? Do you not think every single Iraqi citizen living in that country today is just as scared?

By Truthman

March 27, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

AEY Inc., sends Afghans 40-year-old Ammo. 22-year-old with no military experience gets $300 million contract.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/world/asia/27ammo.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

More no-bid contracting from you Corporate Welfare Superstore - the Bush administra…er…regime.

Of course, the neo-cons are all OK with corporate welfare. Just ask RW/@@ and Dunce-boy!!

By Tony

March 27, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

You got all that correct, Dubya. Consider that $28.5 billion is bush’s budget for ALL the ENTIRE medical research for this ENTIRE country for 2007. Less than 60 days in Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of Americans literally die each year because of lack of medical knowledge and 2nd rate treatment modality due to monies pouring into the Republiscum game that is Iraq. Facts and history that cannot be argued.

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

We didn’t liberate the sunnis in 2003, we overthrew the sunnis.

Now we fight with the sunnis to get it back like it were.

Is that down-home simple enought 4U geopolitical wizards?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Spokesman for Baghdad security plan abducted

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Pentagon says new Iraq fighting arises from surge’s success

By mm

March 27, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Another Bush admin screwup

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

Crude oil surges after Basra pipeline bombing

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Bush: Iraq’s Resurging Violence ‘A Very Positive Moment’

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

We overthrew the sunnis in 2003.

We liberated the shia from the sunnis in 2003.

Now we fight to reliberate the sunnis from the shia we liberated in 2003.

C Y there’s no mission 4 US troops in Iraq that makes a lick o sense?

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

We liberated the shia in 2003. We overthrew the sunnis in 2003.

We now fight to liberate the sunnis and overthrow the shia.

The mission of us troops is to do flips and not make much splash. hey, it’s a diving contest!

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Do you guys get that? that we didn’t liberate the sunnis in 2003? they didn’t need no liberating, they were in power.

Do you understand? Stomp your foot. Scratch your balls, do something to indicate you get this overriding point of all.

By ?

March 27, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

As a white person, would you rather be walking around Baghdad unarmed at 2:00 a.m or lower Bankhead highway in Atlanta unarmed at 2:00 a.m.?

By why no

March 27, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

“Do you have a problem with the First Amendment?”

Just when morons like you waste it with UR “MySpacey Comments” By: Bosch

Get over your Lonesome, I’m so Lonesome, Mister Lonely Lone Ranger Lip-Sticky Life.

ECHO-cardial FLATULENCE from your HEARTy HAR HARDY

Faaa-aaaaaaaa-aaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaarts.

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

To sum up, we overthrew SUNNIS in 2003. We didn’t liberate SUNNIS in 2003, we OVERTHREW THEM.

We did liberate the same shia we are now fighting, however. (minor snafubar)

We are trapped in this endless redefining of our undefineable mission for a thousand years.

Here’s your final exam: What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

PPI Poll: Obama Stronger in California Against McCain

A new Public Policy Institute of California poll shows Sen. Barack Obama would be a stronger Democratic presidential candidate in the general election than Sen. Hillary Clinton.

FROM POLITICAL WIRE Obama leads Sen. John McCain in the nation’s most populous state, 49% to 40%, while Clinton edges McCain, 46% to 43%.

By getalife

March 27, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

“Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor emeritus of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago where Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has been a member for two decades, slurred Italians in a piece published in the most recent issue of Trumpet Newsmagazine.”

Obama and his radical preacher’s unity message is a lie. This divisive and racist and they can shove their race card.

GFY Obama!

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Bosch: There is no need for me to continue debating you over this issue, you are a typical liberal, you fix the weirdest ideas imaginable in your mind and call them “progressive,” and when someone provides irrefutable proof of how silly they are you zig zag right straight back to them like they are legitimate.

You are convinced that America is an oppressive, brutal, murderous country without any redeeming quality and I have come to accept that it is your problem, not mine.

See ya.

By Devastator

March 27, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

getastupid,

Give it a rest dude.The race has already been decided. You’ve let the media trick you into thinking that this thing isn’t over because of their pursuit of ratings.

The sooner you get over it, the lesser it will hurt.

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

Did I mention that we didn’t liberate any sunnis in 2003, but instead overthrew all of them?

I can never tell with all you rhodes scholars on this blog.

By Midori

March 27, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

{{{{{Are you really this stupid?”}}}}

LOL, Bosch — I don’t think an adjective exists to adequately describe his level of stupidity.

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

From DHIMWIT’S 11:38 panty waist propaganda link:

{{{{[Bush] backed the Iraqi Government’s decision to “respond forcefully” to the spiralling violence by “criminal elements” and Shia extremists in Basra. “It was a very positive moment in the development of a sovereign nation that is willing to take on elements that believe they are beyond the law,” the President said.}}}}

{{{{It’s hard to see what Bush sees as positive. The explosion that burst an oil pipeline in Basra today? Tens of thousands of Shiite protesters in Baghad? A kidnapped “civilian spokesman for the Baghdad security operation?”}}}}

1)The SHIITE MAJORITY Iraqi government is sending the Iraqi army to battle SHIITE EXTREMISTS.

What?

You libs hate your country so much that you can’t think?

What happened to your squealing about the Iraq government being a lackey to Iran?

Shouldn’t this news make you happy that apparently they are not?

2)What point is there in leaving an intact Mahdi army in place with reduced American troop presence?

What happened to your shrieking that they were just waiting for us to leave so they could take over the country?

Shouldn’t you be happy that the Iraqi government cracked down on them, which started this uprising and that same government is now moving to eliminate them?

What?

Are these things just simply too much for you to understand?

Are you silly enough to believe the Mahdi army is not soon to be slaughtered wholesale by the Americans?

Is this bad and upsetting to you?

(Well, of course, I know it is.)

Losers.

By getalife

March 27, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Damn Andy,

Don’t cut and run.

Wave the white flag, surrender to the “progressives”.

They are supporting a racist that hates Italians, Whites, Jews and supports Hamas. His unity message is a lie.

Obama will lose big time and nothing will change.

You should be happy. Progressives are blocking change back to the Clinton economy.

You know, where they were giving away cars to come to work but now they give away the jobs.

Mcbushie will have a third term to finish off our country.

Stand proud and fight wingnut. This is what you want.

By i-r-o-diM

March 27, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

and so lonely.

By The Devil You Say

March 27, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Analchord - we liberated all of Iraq in 2003, including the 20% who are Kurds and who are SUNNIS!! Many if not most Sunnis were as happy to get rid of Saddam as the Kurdish Sunnis and the Arab Shi’ites. Now go beat a dead horse. It would be more productive.

Bosch - the crude language really is not necessary. Your immaturity is really shining through. In my experience, people curse when the DON’T want people to rationally understand their arguments.

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife March 27, 2008 1:15 PM Damn Andy, Don’t cut and run. Wave the white flag, surrender to the “progressives”.}}}}

al-Gitmo: There is no need for me to stand toe to toe with one clueless goony liberal.

With Klinton helping me do the Lord’s work, I can focus on bigger issues.

Ku Klux Rodham is tirelessly exposing “progressives” to be nothing but lying, criminal, self centered bigots, she is putting my efforts to shame.

For this I am thankful for your continuing support for this racist dimwit.

See ya in November.

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

We can never leave Iraq. no can do with leave Iraq. it’s because we are trapped there against our will.

no can do

By The Devil You Say

March 27, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

getalife - you finally got it partially right. Obama’s message is a lie. He has never reached across party lines and has heavily fudged his resume and consorts with racists, bigots and traitors. However, please acknowledge that Hitlery is an inveterate liar who constantly pads her resume with false cliams of greatness.

By Bill

March 27, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

It is with tremendous pride and absolute long-ago predictability that we must -again - today acknowledge that the brave, illustrious, intellectually perfect “surge” in Iraq has “worked” even beyond our wildest hopes. While little al Sadr took a tea-break, Americans of the Repug stripe have bragged endlessly of this absurdity of the Right Wing goonery. So the US continues to be held hostage by a country which rightfully despises its occupiers. Iraq has run out of flowers to bestow upon our troops - and is now ordering in truckloads of fresh, new Bibles - that democracy and Jesusss can continue to flourish in Iraq and throughout all the Middle East. Are you Repugs not a true piece of work?!? Look proud, act proud, BE proud!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

[McCain Busts A Cap, And CNN Is There.] (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/27/124218/100/543/484584)

By getalife

March 27, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Devil,

Politicians lie. Get real.

We know how the Clintons will govern.

Obama is a radical like w. Radicals are divisive and dangerous.

By Devastator

March 27, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I think sore losers are divisive and dangerous.

They lose their minds and do and say anything when they lose.

By Gary

March 27, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Bosch: Shame, shame, shame on you that you should so upset homoAJC mgt, Devil, and their ilk. Those tiny people spew hate as readily as they breathe. Hatred and ignorance are their very life-blood.

By @@

March 27, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Good…somebody, AJCM sees beyond the oversimplified view of the conflict with Iraq’s shiites and the Mehdi Army, also shiites.

Stratfor has an excellent piece which supports his (AJCM’s) assessment. By all accounts, the coalition forces are, in no way, involved in the conflict. It’s been left to the Maliki government to deal with, and deal with it, they are. They’re going up against Iran’s shiite proxies.

I can recall back in Nov. 2007 when more than 300,000 Shiite Muslims from southern Iraq had signed a petition condemning Iran for fomenting violence in Iraq.

What we’re seeing is a fractured Mehdi army - one faction wanting political solutions, the other, proxies of Iran looking to put pressure on the U.S. to negotiate. Sadr is caught between Iran and the U.S.

Sadr wants, for personal reasons only, to maintain a political influence in Iraq’s parliament. Iran is screwing that up for him.

Fascinating stuff when you can see beyond what the left-wing media would have you believe.

The left-wing media “thinks” for the liberals who can’t think beyond what their media tells them.

Fascinating…..absolutely fascinating.

The willful ignorance of liberals and geopolitical strategies.

By Devastator

March 27, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama will be on “the View” tomorrow at 11am on ABC.

Instead of mouthing off to each other about him, why don’t you listen to him in his own words.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

03/18/08: After Five Years, Iraq War Coverage Down Sharply

By Devastator

March 27, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

ITN,

Don’t forget about Barack on the View. We can discuss it when its over.

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

{{{{Although liberal families’ incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).}}}}

{{{{In 2000, brows were furrowed in perplexity because Vice President Al Gore’s charitable contributions, as a percentage of his income, were below the national average: He gave 0.2 percent of his family income, one-seventh of the average for donating households. But Gore “gave at the office.” By using public office to give other peoples’ money to government programs, he was being charitable, as liberals increasingly, and conveniently, understand that word.}}}}

And I understand the word “hypocrite.”

By Say It Ain't So

March 27, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Bosch, could you explain how you could accomplish this “I’d be willing to fight al-Qaeda here -….” when the left has been trying to outlaw firearms in private hands for the last 40 + years?

Thank you in advance for you explanation.

By Fly_on_the_Wall

March 27, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

I really don’t understand how AndyDuh can sit there and tell that we invaded Iraq because Saddam was just a ‘bad guy’. I thought we were told time and time again that Iraq was about to attack U.S. soil and as the Administration talking heads put it, we’re going to see a mushroom cloud over a U.S. city if we don’t take Saddam out now. But Andy wants us to believe that we there more for a police action. We’ve reduced the murder rate in Iraq! Woo Hoo! I’m glad that is cleared up. I really hate to think we’ve spent billions or trillions on nation building or something stupid like that - which Bush said he’d NEVER do because that was too much like Clinton. Why do the neo-cons change their story everytime someone talks about the reasons for the war? Oh so what if WMDs weren’t there, Saddam was a bad guy and we needed to take him out is what they say. They can’t face the truth - they were lied to by Bush & Co.

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Flyonthe_Wall March 27, 2008 2:15 PM Why do the neo-cons change their story everytime someone talks about the reasons for the war? Oh so what if WMDs weren’t there, Saddam was a bad guy and we needed to take him out is what they say. They can’t face the truth - they were lied to by Bush & Co.}}}}

Blah, blah, blah, stupid, silly liberals:

{{{{Many Iraqis can hear me tonight in a translated radio broadcast, and I have a message for them. If we must begin a military campaign, it will be directed against the lawless men who rule your country and not against you. As our coalition takes away their power, we will deliver the food and medicine you need. We will tear down the apparatus of terror and we will help you to build a new Iraq that is prosperous and free. In a free Iraq, >>>>>there will be no more wars of aggression against your neighbors, no more poison factories, no more executions of dissidents, no more torture chambers and rape rooms. The tyrant will soon be gone. The day of your liberation is near.<<<<<-PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH, MARCH 17, 2003.}}}}

Geez, you pinkos are nothing but a bunch of klowns.

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Cartoon: A less wide smile would have shown a more crazed hillary too. And funnier and more cruel. In fact, hardly parting the lips at all would have put this one over the top. try it, you like it.

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

And you Andy are a typical neo-con,

You cared about the well being of Iraqi civilians in 1998, but don’t give a SH!T about them now.

“and when someone provides irrefutable proof of how silly they are you zig zag right straight back to them like they are legitimate.

You are convinced that America is an oppressive, brutal, murderous country without any redeeming quality and I have come to accept that it is your problem, not mine”

You have no freaking idea what I am convinced of, but you can spew sh!t like that all you want - it doesn’t make it true, just like you can repeat the same thing over and over and it may become true in your mind, but not in reality.

Irrefutable proof? There is no such thing as irrefutable proof, and you’ve certainly never shown me or anyone else on this blog any such thing.

You are unable to form a coherent argument about anything but instead retreat and hurl insults when forced to explain ANYTHING.

Take your football and go home.

#

Devil,

Again, get over it Puritan. Curse words are sentence enhancers -

“Your immaturity is really shining through. In my experience, people curse when the DON’T want people to rationally understand their arguments”

It’s my experience that when people can’t debate a topic or when they know they’ve been beaten in an argument they SOLELY in their posts bring up LAME A$$ things like cursing while they let slide the crude comments of those who they feel are like minded - while contributing nothing to back up WHY they think it is wrong to curse, or WHY they feel it is immature.

If I were to ever project a moral judgement upon someone, I would AT LEAST explain why it is (other than just simply being immature) WHY I feel that way, because otherwise to do so is just plain arrogant.

There’s a scroll button on the right side of your computer - when you see my name, use it if you don’t like my posts.

Care to debate me on cursing? Or is it just your opinion that it’s wrong, and so therefore, nothing else can be said on the matter. I’ll be glad to casually discuss the origins and meanings of any words you feel are “bad.”

Care to play? Or would you like to talk about something important?

It is my experience that people who criticize others and project morals upon others are really

By @@

March 27, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Is this what you had in mind PoliFore?

Hillary grinning like a mule eating briars?

Off to do 6 for sure, but I’ll shoot for 7.

For RW upon his return. I’ve done 2 road races. Never again. I found that I’m somewhat claustrophobic. Flying elbows are dangerous to my health.

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil continued…..

It is my experience that people who criticized others and prject morals upon others are really narrow minded in scope.

Say It Ain’t So,

Go back and read my post from yesterday at 1:44, then get back with me.

Also, you can read Bob Barr’s take on Iraq on the Political Insider blog, or you can just look ^^^ - I copy and pasted it at 8:27.

By Huh?

March 27, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

[[Curse words are sentence enhancers]]

like cow manure is a soil enhancer?

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil continued…..

It is my experience that people who criticized others and prject morals upon others are really narrow minded in scope.

Say It Ain’t So,

Go back and read my post from yesterday at 1:44, then get back with me.

Also, you can read Bob Barr’s take on Iraq on the Political Insider blog, or you can just look ^^^ - I copy and pasted it at 8:27.

By mm

March 27, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

AJCM,

You really should change your name back to Duh. It is much more fitting. You are not management material. You couldn’t manage an ant farm. For the life of me I can’t understand why the AJC allows you to use that name. Do you think you’re fooling newbies to the site that your views are really the views of the AJC?

What’s the point of your 2:26? To show how truly stupid and insane you are?

What you really pointed out is that Bush has been lying to Americans and Iraqis for 5 years.

By heh heh heh

March 27, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

“”Former Rep. Bob Barr, who switched parties from Republican to Libertarian in 2006, welcomed Gravel’s decision in a statement on the LP website:”“

“”Just as >>>>Senator Gravel<<<< believes Democrats have lost touch with the American public, >>>>I too<<<< concluded Republicans had lost their core principles, and could no longer associate myself with the GOP. While coming from opposite sides of the aisle, >>>>Senator Gravel and I definitely agree on the fundamental need for systemic change in our political system,<<<< and that the only way >>>>we<<<< have of effecting that change is by supporting and working in the Libertarian Party, which is the only political party in America that consistently works in word and deed to maximize individual liberty and minimize government power.”“

Barr/Gravel ‘08

Bosch’s dream ticket?

Snicker snicker SNORT!

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

By Huh?

March 27, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

[[Curse words are sentence enhancers]]

like cow manure is a soil enhancer?

Does ANYONE know that joke?

Or is it just me, because if it’s just me that’s okay. In order to explain it, I’d have to admit something pretty embarrassing about myself. Well, not really embarrassing, but it would certainly open the door for some Bosch abuse.

It’s from a certain cartoon I’ve seen before, one in which I found to be pretty gosh darn funny.

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

Hehehe,

No, my dream ticket is more along the lines of:

Nunn/Barr ‘08

With Obama being Secretary of State.

By Fly_on_the_Wall

March 27, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

I really don’t understand how AndyDuh can sit there and tell that we invaded Iraq because Saddam was just a ‘bad guy’. I thought we were told time and time again that Iraq was about to attack U.S. soil and as the Administration talking heads put it, we’re going to see a mushroom cloud over a U.S. city if we don’t take Saddam out now. But Andy wants us to believe that we there more for a police action. We’ve reduced the murder rate in Iraq! Woo Hoo! I’m glad that is cleared up. I really hate to think we’ve spent billions or trillions on nation building or something stupid like that - which Bush said he’d NEVER do because that was too much like Clinton. Why do the neo-cons change their story everytime someone talks about the reasons for the war? Oh so what if WMDs weren’t there, Saddam was a bad guy and we needed to take him out is what they say. They can’t face the truth - they were lied to by Bush & Co.

By don't bother

March 27, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

“”In order to explain it, I’d have to admit something pretty embarrassing about myself.”“

please don’t bosch.

you make the mistake of thinking that anyone here is interested.

they’re NOT.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Graham: McCain not all that ‘different’ from Bush.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Bosch

I’m interested in anything you have to say

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

{{{{By mm March 27, 2008 3:04 PM Do you think you’re fooling newbies to the site that your views are really the views of the AJC?}}}}

I consider that to be a side benefit, but now that you mention it, the AJC Management does not approve of dimwits like mmoron posting it’s idiocy on our blogs.

Begone, fool.

{{{{What’s the point of your 2:26? To show how truly stupid and insane you are?}}}}

Try to follow the bouncing ball, mouth breather, one of you other beady eyed dolts said that Bushie changed the reason we invaded Iraq from WMD to removing a tyrant.

Now, if you carefully read the exact words that Bushie spoke BEFORE we invaded, you will see that he said we would remove the tyrant.

Fascinate me mmoron, tell me what that really means, I can’t wait to hear.

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

What would really be special would be for you to write your thoughts at some other blog and ‘lil newsie namejacker could link them here.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

@@,

We can do a marathon without being in a crowd. Don’t tell Semper. J/K (IWH)

I could never run in a road race for the same reason you mentioned. I don’t mind the elbows since I’ve got the sharpest ones in the crowd, but the crowd itself is another story.

Just passing through.

Later!

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Thanks, ITN, right back at ‘cha! I like lots of different perspectives and it amazes me the people on this blog who think that have such a narrow view of “right” and “wrong” and their “side” is right and the other is wrong, simply based on their perspective.

It’s sad.

Did you read that quote from Political Insider about what Barr said about the war? I thought that was pretty weird after my little diatribe from yesterday. Maybe I’d heard that before somewhere and just filed it away in the subconsious - maybe it was the other Bosch - whose brain is much more complex than mine!

Men or women who insult people under pseudonyms are cowards.

By Huh?

March 27, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

[[I’m interested in anything you have to say]]

Of course you are.

Morons think alike.

Why did it take the moron three hours to eat breakfast?

Because the orange juice carton instructions said Concentrate ! !

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Areas of Baghdad fall to militias as Iraqi Army falters in Basra

By John

March 27, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Thought the Klinton’s were anti-gun…or maybe that’s my gun after she took it from me.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Analysis: Al-Sadr in trouble, Iraq headed for meltdown

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 27, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Any body wanna guess who REALLY posted at 3:30?

Sloppy, Little Ricky Retardo, Sloppy!

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

@@, they are finding a big downside to jogging. Just walk briskly, get into reasonable but not super shape, and then let yourself get a little out of shape and then start walking again, and so on and so on and you’ll live to be 110. Jogging will wear your heart out, and ruin your joints. fact.

it takes an expert to frame the problem.

By Devastator

March 27, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

Never thought I’d say it but….Hooray Pelosi!

(CNN) – A recent letter from several Hillary Clinton fundraisers to Nancy Pelosi seeking she step back from her contention that superdelegates should support the pledged-delegate leader appears to have had little effect on the House Speaker.

Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said late Wednesday the California Democrat stands by her argument that the party’s superdelegates would do damage if they go against the will of voters and hand the nomination to the candidate who finished second among those delegates awarded from the round of caucuses and primaries.

“The speaker believes it would do great harm to the Democratic Party if superdelegates are perceived to overturn the will of the voters,” Daly said. “This has been her position throughout this primary season, regardless of who was ahead at any particular point in delegates or votes.”

The statement comes a day after nearly 20 high-profile Clinton fundraisers strongly criticized Pelosi for that position, arguing instead that the superdelegates “have an obligation to make an informed, individual decision about whom to support and who would be the party’s strongest nominee.”

The fundraisers, who reminded Pelosi in the letter they have been strong contributors to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, also urged the House Speaker to “clarify your position on super-delegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the National Convention in August.”

“Speaker Pelosi is confident that superdelegates will choose between Sens. Clinton or Obama — our two strong candidates — before the convention in August,” Daly also said. “That choice will be based on many considerations, including respecting the decisions of millions of Americans who have voted in primaries and participated in caucuses.”

Pelosi first expressed her stance in an ABC News interview earlier this month — one that benefits Barack Obama, whose current pledged delegate lead of 171 is virtually insurmountable given the party’s proportional delegation allocations, even if Clinton were to win each of the remaining 10 primary contests.

An Obama spokesman called the Clinton fundraiser’s letter “inappropriate.”

By getalife

March 27, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

The Obama media bias has hit a new low

Yet Clinton will still win.

By Devastator

March 27, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

getadreamer,

I’ve never in my life seen someone with reality so far shoved up his a$$.

What is she going to win with imbecile, monopoly delegates?

Hahahaha!

By getalife

March 27, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

Clinton won California so Pelosi has to support her.

She won Mass. so Kerry and Kennedy have to support her.

See how it works but they are trying to change the game.

They will lose. The Clinton donors are right er wright.

By Devastator

March 27, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

getanillusion,

That’s if she wins the delegates dude, er monopoly delegates.

By Curly Churl

March 27, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

Chickenhawk Gurl.

Yellow.

By Devastator

March 27, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

(CNN) — Its been an interesting week watching folks analyze the outcry over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s controversial comments, especially when they try to link them to Sen. Barack Obama.

Obama’s supporters say it’s wrong to associate his views with those of his pastor at Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ. His opponents say that surely his views are linked with Wright’s, including the pastor’s praise of Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan.

Conservative talker Sean Hannity — who incidentally many have accused of associations with white supremacist Hal Turner, which he denies — was foaming at the mouth. He called Wright a racist and an anti-Semite, and then said we all should assume Obama is also a racist and an anti-Semite.

Frankly, it’s just not plausible to suggest that you always share the same feelings or views as someone you know.

In remarks to a Pittsburgh newspaper, Sen. Hillary Clinton responded to a question about the Wright controversy by saying: “You don’t choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend.

True. Very true. But there’s also some reality that politicians pick and choose who they want to be associated with. Clinton pressed Obama during a debate this year to repudiate and denounce Farrakhan’s unsolicited praise of him at an event the Nation of Islam leader organized for his group in Chicago.

The moderator, NBC’s Tim Russert, brought up comments made by Farrakhan 24 years ago in his question to Obama.

Fine, so what do we make of then-President Bill Clinton publicly endorsing the 1995 Million Man March? Who called for that march? Louis Farrakhan. Who was the lead organizer? Louis Farrakhan. Who was the keynote speaker? Louis Farrakhan.

After he was out of the White House, President Clinton also endorsed the Million Man March. Who called for that march? Louis Farrakhan. Who was the lead organizer? Louis Farrakhan. Who was the keynote speaker? Louis Farrakhan.

Did Clinton privately or publicly rebuke her husband for supporting a man whom she has determined to be hateful and divisive?

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who is national co-chair of Sen. Clinton’s presidential campaign, once stood on stage with Farrakhan in 1997 — at an event the Times said was “called to promote racial reconciliation after several recent high-prof

By Devastator

March 27, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Poor Hillary…

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s positive rating has dropped to a new low of 37 percent in an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released on Wednesday.

According to the poll, the New York senator’s positive rating slid 8 percentage points in two weeks and she had a negative rating of 48 percent in a week where she admitted making a mistake in claiming she had come under sniper fire during a 1996 trip to Bosnia.

Clinton’s Democratic rival, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, also saw a slight dip in his positive rating, to 49 percent from 51 percent, the poll found.

Clinton, who would be the first female U.S. president, and Obama, who would be the first black president, are in a heated battle for the Democratic nomination to face presumptive Republican nominee John McCain in November’s election.

The survey was taken after Obama gave a speech last week on race in America and rejected racially charged remarks by his pastor in Chicago of two decades, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

NBC said 32 percent of respondents said Obama “sufficiently addressed the issue” and 26 percent said he needed to say more about the Wright controversy.

More than half of those surveyed — 55 percent — said they were “disturbed” by the videos of Wright that were widely circulated on television and the Internet, the poll found.

In head-to-head matchups, Obama and Clinton were even at 45 percent. In general election matchups, Obama led McCain by 44 percent to 42 percent and McCain led Clinton by 46 percent to 44 percent.

When asked which candidate could unite the country if elected, 60 percent said Obama, 58 percent said McCain and 46 percent said Clinton.

The poll of 700 registered voters was conducted on Monday and Tuesday and had a margin of error of 3.7 percentage points.

NBC said its pollsters oversampled African-Americans to get a more reliable cross tabulation on questions regarding Obama’s speech on race.

By Devastator

March 27, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

5:51 cont…

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who is national co-chair of Sen. Clinton’s presidential campaign, once stood on stage with Farrakhan in 1997 — at an event the Times said was “called to promote racial reconciliation after several recent high-profile crimes” — and praised him for his commitment to ending violence in the black community. Rendell was the mayor of Philadelphia at the time.

According to the April 15, 1997, story in The New York Times, Farrakhan praised Rendell before 3,000 people at the anti-violence rally for ”his courage and strength to rise above emotion and differences that might be between us or our communities.

Roland Martin argues that Obama is not alone in his controversial associations »

According to the Times, Rendell, who is Jewish, commended the Nation of Islam for its emphasis on family values and self-sufficiency.

Must Clinton repudiate and denounce Rendell’s past comments and association with Farrakhan?

Former Republican Rep. Jack Kemp is a huge supporter of Sen. John McCain, and he also has a Farrakhan story.

In 1996, when Kemp was the vice presidential running mate of Kansas Sen. Bob Dole, he told reporters that he wanted to meet with Farrakhan and praised his organization’s focus on economic empowerment, family values and its pull-yourselves-up-by-the-bootstrap message — right in line with the GOP talking points. Kemp said he wanted to speak at the Million Man March.

Kemp summarily criticized Farrakhan’s comments about Jews and whites, but he didn’t take his words back. By the way, Hannity pressed every African-American supporter about Farrakhan, but he never got in Kemp’s face about his comments.

I wonder why?

Must McCain repudiate and denounce Kemp’s past comments and association with Farrakhan?

When it comes to homosexuality, no Clinton or Obama supporter should think of criticizing the other campaign’s black ministerial supporters because that means most of their own would have to be disassociated from their campaigns.

On CNN’s “The Situation Room,” Paul Begala mentioned “hateful” things said about gays by the Rev. James Meeks, founder and senior pastor of Salem Baptist Church of Chicago, and an Obama supporter. Meeks has made no bones about his firm opposition to homosexuality (and abortion), which

By AJC Management

March 27, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

Ahhhh, yes, the liberals continue to gnaw on each other:

{{{{A prominent fund raiser told me, “Gore-Obama is the ticket a lot of people wanted in the first place.” A congressional Democrat told me, “This could be our way out of a mess.”}}}}

That would be the G!d Damn America ticket for real.

They could haul as-s around the world in their Gulfstreams and SUV’s, stopping every now and again to say “G!d Damn you America.”

It would be…..glorious.

P.S. Hey Dimastator, how you liking the White Powers trying to do everything they can to get homey off the top of the ticket, sweet, ain’t it?

By @@

March 27, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Obama proposed a further $30 billion that would provide relief to areas hardest hit by the housing crisis and an extension of unemployment insurance for those out of work.

“If we can extend a hand to banks on Wall Street when they get into trouble, we can extend a hand to Americans who are struggling through no fault of their own,” he said to applause.

Obama’s speech may play well in the little hall where he spoke, but it ain’t gonna play well across America.

(((Americans understand this and believe that individual homeowners and lenders will need to adjust to market realities, and a federal bailout of the sub-prime market or new regulations are not wanted according to a newly released Public Opinion Strategies poll. Between October 18 and 21, 1,000 likely voters were questioned over their opinions on the mortgage crisis.)))

(((With a margin of error of 3.1 percent., 90 percent of those surveyed viewed sub-prime mortgages as a serious crisis, but only 31 percent of respondents believed the federal government should get involved.)))

‘Ya just can’t stop an aspiring politician from fleecing America. It’s like a compulsion or somethin’.

I recently read where Alan Greenspan encouraged people to take advantage of ARMs in a USA Today article back in 2004.

Weird! I would never……

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

March 27, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

@@,

Did the 69% of the people who didn’t say that they wanted the government involved realize that the government was involved in creating the issue to begin with? What they probably do not realize is that very low interest rates (set by Federal Reserve) led to the crisis as more and more people thought they could buy homes while at the same time more and more banks were willing to take risks on those same people.

What the Government needs to do is make sure that only rich Republicans like me can buy homes by requiring 20% down. That way my rental property will be a better investment. I think we’d be better off as a country if we simply made it impossible for people who aren’t rich to buy homes so that we can make the sure money on them in rent instead of loaning these poor liberal losers cash that they won’t pay back. Its much easier and less costly to eject then to foreclose anyway.

(BTW: For those voters who are poor or middle class but still vote Republican, please ignore this message in its entirety. God wants you to vote for us and we really don’t think you are all just stupid white trash, Nascar watching idiots who we lie to to get you to vote for us.)

RWNJIFG

By @@

March 27, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG:

Funny you should mention this:

(((God wants you to vote for us and we really don’t think you are all just stupid white trash, Nascar watching idiots who we lie to to get you to vote for us.)))

Just yesterday, as I was driving to work, I noticed a sign in front of an African American church. It read

“Mortgage Seminar Scheduled Here”

“Understanding the mortgage process”

Date…..time…..blah blah blah.

Isn’t it funny how when the GOVERNMENT schools fail to educate, the CHURCH steps in to help.

Good for them!

By Truth

March 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

I laughed out loud on this one!!! Too funny Mike!

By Anarchist

March 28, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

Bosch: You’re both right. Congratulations.

“By Bosch

March 27, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Hmmmmm -

“These are trashy people elevated to high office by the primary voters of the Democrat Party with the active help of a sociopath named H. Ross Perot. Now you Democrats understand WHY we Republicans railed against these crooks for so long. These people are a study in mendacity and perfidity.”

And if we just change the words around a bit:

“These are trashy people elevated to high office by the primary voters of the REPUBLICAN Party with the active help of a sociopath named KARL ROVE. Now you REPUBLICANS understand WHY we RATIONALLY MINDED PEOPLE railed against these crooks for so long. These people are a study in mendacity and perfidity.

There, that sounds better.”

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