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Home > Opinion > Mike Luckovich > Archives > 2008 > March > 20 > Entry

Stepping into shoes

By Mike Luckovich | Thursday, March 20, 2008, 07:34 AM

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By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

At least he won’t cut and run from “what’s their name,” like the koward kandidates will.

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Got gold?

{{{{Most-active gold for April delivery on the New York Mercantile Exchange’s Comex division plummeted $59.00 from the previous day to $945.30 an ounce, posting the biggest daily loss since January 1980, according to Dow Jones Newswires.}}}}

GFY.

So now I guess, considering that gold rose to unbelievably high prices but then fell 5%, just like the housing market did, we can say that the gold bubble has “burst.”

Hehehehe.

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I’ll let the troops speak:

{{{{“[The soldiers] always say they hate it here, but this is our job,” said a lieutenant who had been in Iraq just seven months.}}}}

{{{{“We all signed up in a time of war. We can’t just say we don’t want to do it anymore. We go out of the wire, see [al Qaeda Iraq] cut off heads and others burn down homes, and we do our best to fight it, to stop it.}}}}

{{{{“We’ll go home with a sense of accomplishment. We’ll go home knowing we did something in our lives that nothing will compare with. But most people don’t care what the soldier wants to say. They’ll hear what they want to hear.”}}}}

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

There is always some psycho grievance mongering in every lib scare story:

{{{{Spring ahead of calendar- Such changes have “implications for the animals that are dependent on this plant,” said Jake Weltzin, director of the National Phenology Network, which scientists and the federal government established to track the change. By the time the animals stir, “the flowers may already be done for the year.” The animals may have to find a new food source >>>>or starve.<<<<-Urinal}}}}

So I guess the animals “evolving” along with the changing environment is out of the question, eh?

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{{{{Data on Clinton schedule released- But there are blacked-out sections on more than 4,400 pages, and the documents offer no support for her claims that she helped to negotiate the Northern Ireland peace accords or facilitated the flow of refugees in the Balkans. Neither do they back up her claim that she helped pass the Family and Medical Leave Act, the first legislation that Bill Clinton signed as president.-Urinal}}}}

Yeah, Bush is a “liar,” hahaha.

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{{{{Iraq rift deep in U.S. after 5 years.-Urinal}}}}

You got that right, you gutless wonders:

{{{{It is therefore unfortunate, and dangerous, that both Democratic candidates have backed themselves into a corner by endorsing rapid withdrawal from Iraq. In a speech yesterday in North Carolina, Barack Obama called for an almost complete U.S. withdrawal in 16 months. He continues to endorse the illusion that defeat in Iraq will help us prevail in Afghanistan; the opposite is closer to the truth. We will never maintain the support, either at home or abroad, to prevail in Afghanistan if we show we can be driven from the more vital strategic prize of Iraq.}}}}

Are we going to vote in November for success or for failure?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

McCain’s Senior Moment

Reaganesque? Can’t remember…..

By Mad As Zell

March 20, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

Luckosick has been lampooning Conservatives all over the place while the Obama Quack Preacher Scandal has been going raging on like a Michael Vick case of herpes. Where’s the stinging criticism for Barack Obama that George W. Bush, Dick Chaney and John McCain always seem to repeatedly get in your moonbat cartoons? Speaking of a case of herpes, here comes IN THE Hussein Bowels with another anti-Amercan propaganda fake news story!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

McCain Stumbles on H.I.V. Prevention

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

McCain Has a Senior Moment?….Or was it a moment of truth?

By FrankLeeDarling

March 20, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

McCain=senility as a weapon of mass destruction

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

Andy Duhng doesn’t like the news that is chosen to be reported, nor does he like the spin. Duhng considers himself a frustrated Citizen Kane, only not so much Rosebud as Blowspud.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

McCain’ Senior Moment: I’m Older Than Frankenstein

By The Devil You Say

March 20, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

Well, well, so we have never mispoken and never said anything we wished we could take back. It seems to me that Mr. McCain, for whom I did NOT vote in the primary, corrected his slip right away. Luckovich seems to have missed all of the contradictions in Barak Obama’s record, including his statements in 2004 that he would be handling Iraq exactly the same way the Bush Administration was then. This fact has been little reported, but it is true. You can check Drudge. People also forget that McCain was a critic of the HANDLING of the war, although not a critic of us going in and staying in. The surrender crowd will never get it. At this point (this is what Obama also said) we are in it and we cannot just leave. Both Clinton and Obama must know this on some level. The damage done to our national security and to the world economy would be devastating. Remember, Iraq is the world’s second largest oil producer (Russia has the second largest ready reserves).

Also, the sources being cited by NTHN are really quite biased, to put it mildly. He really should do a little more research before he just posts something.

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

{{{{“I have failed to liberate Iraq, and transform its society into an Islamic society.”— Moqtada al-Sadr, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, March 8, 2008}}}}

{{{{Moqtada al-Sadr — the radical cleric dubbed “The Most Dangerous Man in Iraq” by a Newsweek cover story in December 2006 — has just unilaterally extended the ceasefire he imposed on his Mahdi Army militia last summer. And on the eve of the Iraq War’s fifth anniversary, Sadr also issued a somber but dramatic statement. He not only declared that he had failed to transform Iraq, but also lamented the new debates and divisions within his own movement. Explaining his marginalization, Sadr all but confessed his growing isolation: “One hand cannot clap alone.”}}}}

{{{{But as a recent ABC News poll of Iraqis makes clear, Shiite support for local militias has plummeted over the past year. The full implementation of the surge helped weaken Sadr, not make him more popular.}}}}

Are we going to vote in November for U.S. success or for U.S. failure?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

RW/Duh/ANdy/Headcase/Zell/RB

Amvet called it

“Ricky Retardo” last night.

Too funny.

I was watching an old MAS*H last night and there was old Frank Burns explaining why we were in Korea…

“they’ll march through Korea take a left turn and next thing you know they’ll be marching down Mainstreet USA…..we have bathrooms, they’d do anything to get them”

Little Ricky Duh the headcase from Gwinnett who’s mad as Zell popped into my mind….

By Dubya

March 20, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

And so now we have little McCain and the twisted GOP henchmen trying to figure out how to assassinate Obama. To attack him and smear him and paint him as an evil being and an untrustworthy force for the nation, just as they did with Gore and Kerry. Anything that will convince and enrage the gun-rack-on-the-pickup-crowd of Repug cretins. McBush’s entire campaign is now being fueled by a giant, disgusting hunk of Cold War phlegm that tells us that a perpetual state of war and aggression is desirable for America and, in fact, the only way to keep the nation healthy and functioning. Repugs must make McCain’s patriarchal brand of regurgitated GOPism seem fresh and visionary, instead of regressive, embarrassing, repugnant,and openly racist. This is the only thing these inbreds seem to ever do well. Just gaze at it day by day. God bluss Murcuh. Allah Akbar!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Beware McCain’s Foreign Policy

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Top Ten John McCain quotes

By reebok

March 20, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

Great, and McCain is supposed to be the one with the foreign policy acumen. Another 4 years of a guy in the White House who doesn’t know the difference between Iraq and Iran. If you like Dubya, you’ll love The Codger.

By Copyleft

March 20, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

Okay, conservatives, here’s your chance: Start singing the praises of Johnny McLame! Tell us how much you just loooove him and how excited you are to vote for him! Rave about his ‘vision,’ his record of accomplishments that you’re proud of.

C’mon! Surely you have good things to say about your own anointed candidate, right? RIGHT???

Yep. Remember how well that level of enthusiasm worked out for John Kerry.

By Linhasxoc

March 20, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

And here I thought McCain was the only Republican I could stomach as President. If he’s making these kind of blunders… well, he couldn’t possibly be any worse than Bush, right?

—or— SPACE PIRATE 1: IT could be worse. SPACE PIRATE 2: How? SPACE PIRATE 1: It could be raining. SPACE pIRATE 2: You idiot! It cannot rain in outer space! starts raining

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Has John McCain Met the Commander-in-Chief Threshold?

By Georgia 74

March 20, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Funny toon and so true.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Well, I guess RW and RB decided to continue our debate.

RW,

I never said Saddam Hussein wasn’t a threat to his own people, and I think that is a horrible thing. Using your horrible imagery to try and make the point that Saddam Hussein was a threat to the U.S. is irrelevant to the situation.

It was relevant to the Iraqis and some of the neighboring countries in the ME, but not us, and not here.

We are not the world police.

RB,

Why do you think I consider myself some kind of genius? I don’t. Never have. In fact, I make fun of myself quite a bit on this blog. I have an opinoin different than yours, that’s all. I don’t know all the answers, and guess what? Neither do you.

As you can see from my response to RW, I think that Saddam WAS crazy enough to invade other neighboring countries because he’d done it before. But the whole notion of him being an IMMEDIATE threat to the United States of America just wasn’t there.

I’ve never disputed that Saddam wasn’t an evil dictator, but he was an extremely smart dictator, and yes, I think that even if he had WMDS, he wouldn’t have sold them to OBL.

Why were our tanks on the ground 60 miles from Baghdad? Because we were invading the country - which we shouldn’t have been doing in the first place - whatever our Democrats and Republicans in Congress and the President said. We should have had those tanks in Afghanistan addressing the IMMEDIATE threat of the Taliban.

Let’s just say for the sake of arguing that Saddam DID have WMD, how exactly does that pose a threat to us here in the U.S. It poses an immediate threat to the soldiers IN IRAQ, but not us here. And if our soldiers had been on the ground in Afghanistan instead of Baghdad, they wouldn’t have posed a threat to them either.

We invaded that country because our incompentent boobs in both house, both party leaders said that he was an immediate threat to us here. If you really think about the logistics of the situation and not buy into the hysteria, you’d realize that it’s simply impossible for anyone to launch a full scale invasion on this country, except for maybe Canada, and they really don’t concern me.

The whole basis of my argument is immediate threat - and Saddam Hussein, dictator of Iraq, was not an immediate threat to the United States of America.

By Goldie

March 20, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Sen. McBush is conflating Iran and Al-Qaida, just like Karl Rover tells him to do…

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Let me try another metaphor because if I waited until the bad guy pulled the gun on me, I’d be dead, and that’s not good.

Okay, I have a gun in my pocket walking down the street, and I see another guy walking towards me on the street with a gun in his pocket - I wouldn’t take out my gun and shoot him just because he had a gun in his pocket and MIGHT hurt me.

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Does anybody know what this goofball is babbling about?:

{{{{By Copyleft March 20, 2008 8:52 AM Okay, conservatives, here’s your chance: Start singing the praises of Johnny McLame! Tell us how much you just loooove him and how excited you are to vote for him! Rave about his ‘vision,’ his record of accomplishments that you’re proud of.}}}}

How weird.

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{{{{By Bosch March 20, 2008 9:20 AM Okay, I have a gun in my pocket walking down the street, and I see another guy walking towards me on the street with a gun in his pocket - I wouldn’t take out my gun and shoot him just because he had a gun in his pocket and MIGHT hurt me.}}}}

Bosch: The guy walking down the street towards you with a gun kills a bunch of Iranians, a bunch of Kuwaitis and then starts shooting at his own people, right in front of you, quick, now what?

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Seven Score and Four Years ago, Lincoln, as president, addressed our nation and freed the slaves. Yesterday, March 19, 2008, a date that will inflame the glibbery, Obama addressed our nation, as our next president about those freed slaves. 300 million Americans were focused upon Obama who seared his image as our next president into America.

Obamamania. It’s America, stupid.

By @@

March 20, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

That’s what McCain gets for stepping into the Democrats doodoo - trying to benefit from assigning identity.

McCain should have stuck with his initial statement. He wasn’t wrong. Even the left-leaning Brookings Institute knows what their believers conveniently refuse to acknowledge. As it turns out, it is Obama who has problems with identifying who his enemy is.

Iran also has a history of cultivating Sunnis when doing so seemed advantageous. It has reached out to a range of revolutionary Sunni groups and has good ties to Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas and other organizations whose ideology is closer to Osama Bin Laden’s than to Khomeini’s. The 9/11 commission found that Iran had engaged in low-level tactical cooperation with Sunni militants linked to al-Qaeda. And Tehran can be intensely practical. During the Iran-Iraq war, Iran worked with Israel and the United States to gain much-needed weapons. Dealing with the Sunnis may follow a similar logic, though mutual suspicion will limit the extent of relations.

Even many Shiite militants have at times been hostile to Iran, and respected moderates such as Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani are careful to maintain their distance from Tehran. Sunnis already rage against perceived Iranian dominance.

In a postwar environment, Tehran will have lost a lever against U.S. pressure and may find itself both overextended and vulnerable in Iraq—a weakness that the United States might exploit in years to come.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Andy,

It’s called a metaphor, it’s not to be taken literally.

But if I were to take your metaphor literally, ONE guy (me) who is witnessing a mass massacre from the other guy,

wait a minute - WHERE is the massacre taking place?

Well, the Iranians and Kuwaitians would be packing some heat, right? Maybe they could take out the lone assassin.

Or I’d call 911. Because, seriously, if this lone assassin is killing scores of people, there’s not so much I could do by myself.

Yes, I’d call the police.

By RW-(the original)

March 20, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Is there some special Bosch rule where he can’t be responded to if he says he’s leaving after making a last comment even when he leaves questions on the table? That never works for me, in fact little newsie namejacker talks about me 24/7/365. Must be creepy AROUND THE (HUSSEIN) DINNER TABLE.

Bosch,

Having the ability to use weaponized chemical weapons delivered by aircraft most certainly made Hussein a threat anywhere in the world. You can always make a case that the time to act was wrong when you make a preemptive strike and you can also never clearly know what you did or did not prevent.

I don’t have time this morning to indulge my little stalker’s fantasies and I will be gone after I hit post, but I’ll leave you with a question. Make believe that the 8/6/2001 really did have the level of detail the moonbats around here like to claim. Would you have supported an invasion of Afghanistan on August 7, 2001? I’ll wave the Bosch rule and allow you to answer in me absence.

Later!

By Redneck Convert

March 20, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Well, I see the librul Luckovich is running down a godly Republican again. Just because McCain got a few countries and gangs mixed up.

Well, you don’t need a big brain and memory to be a good President. Just look at My President. He done a fine job and could do it some more if the libruls would get rid of this law that says a man can’t serve more than two terms. It was fine to put in the law after the librul Roosevelt but its done backfired now.

Anyhow, I will vote for this Red McCain but I will turn my back while I’m doing it. Leastwise he is a Republican which is more than I can say for Clinton or Obama. I just hope he don’t get mixed up and order a A-bomb to be dropped on our state instead of the Georgia that’s in Russia. Its just like a Commie country to steal our state name for one of theirs.

Have a good day everybody.

By N-GA

March 20, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Remember what the bible tells you about coveting thy neighbor’s possessions? You do remember, don’t you?

Gold is a little like global warming, only the cycles are of shorter duration.

If you bought gold at $458/oz (like I did), and you didn’t sell it at 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 (like I didn’t sell it), then you would be in great shape (like I am).

But then if you had little or nothing to invest (like you do), then it really doesn’t matter, does it?

Got Gold! Yesssssssssssssss!

By Glenn

March 20, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Nice work, Saloon Boy. I like Ike! Thanks for making McCain Ike-like, replete with malaprops and melanomae.

By RW-(the original)

March 20, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

One more question before I go. How was the Taliban an immediate threat to the US? Please be specific.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

I love the smell of LIES in the morning….

“I don’t have time this morning to indulge my little stalker’s fantasies and I will be gone after I hit post,”

Is @@ HIM too? I think so

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

RW,

But did we think Saddam Hussein was planning to use aircraft to bomb us with chemical weaponry at that time? Do we know if he was planning such an attack? If we had intelligence to support that, then yeah, I’d be all for using covert operations like we’ve done in the past to take out the threat, but I’ve never heard any evidence to suggest that Saddam Hussein was planning such an attack at the time.

Plenty of other countries have that same capability. Some of these countries even have evil dictators that have murdered their own citizens. Why didn’t we go after them too?

A plane carrying these weapons who takes off half way around the world would get noticed pretty quickly. Don’t you have enough faith in our Air Force or our allies that if we suspected a plane carrying chemical or nuclear weapons towards the U.S. - don’t you think we’d have the ability shoot it down? I do. I think our Air Force is quite capable of doing that.

I never said you COULDN’T respond to me. I simply said, I see they have decided to continue the debate.

By don't bother

March 20, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

do mike, please do!

ban bosch to the outskirts of oblivion.

he’s just too stoooooooopid to be left here.

By N-GA

March 20, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

RW,

I can’t resist, though I suppose the only reason you would ask such a question is that you are locked and loaded for the replies.

The Taliban (unlike Saddam Hussein) directly supported terrorism (UBL). UBL was the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. The Taliban continued to support UBL and provide him safe harbor. UBL had demonstrated that he had the ability to strike US soil. Ergo, the Taliban were enablers of the direct threat.

Sorry, Bosch. I am sure your answer will be more reasoned. But the question was out there…

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch March 20, 2008 9:36 AM Yes, I’d call the police.}}}}

In this case, we were the police.

Remember Kuwait and no fly enforcement of the 1990’s?

Dissemble away.

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{{{{By N-GA March 20, 2008 9:42 AM If you bought gold at $458/oz (like I did), and you didn’t sell it at 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 (like I didn’t sell it), then you would be in great shape (like I am).}}}}

Some people (like me) bought real estate when it was $100,000 (like me) and sold it when it was $250,000 (like me.)

Far more people took bigger gambles than I did and made your gold earnings look rather puny.

But as long as you’re happy!

By tiff

March 20, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Funniest toon this year Mike, you knocked this one out of the ballpark. If McSame is elected we will have the same incompetence we had during the Cheney-Bush administration. Notice I put Cheney first. It says something about the republicants that—At first they did not want him as their candidate because he was leaning too far to the left, and seemed more like a democrat. Just two months later they love him. This whole party is wacko. The republicants have been critical of Obama on how experienced he is on foreign relations. McCain can’t remember what he had for lunch, let alone what country is sponsoring terrorist. Kind of felt sorry for the little fellow yesterday. “NOT”

By Midori

March 20, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Ricky Retardo???

LOL!!!!!

Love it!!!!

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

RW,

“How was the Taliban an immediate threat to the US?”

When?

By AmVet

March 20, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Copyleft, do you, like myself, find it most ironic that the Curlys of the world are reduced to now supporting McCain?

We all know that prior to McCain’s wiping the floor with the Neanderthals in his own party, people like those found here just loathed him! I mean absolutely detested everything about him.

And for any number of positions - from “amnesty” to campaign finance reform to his belief in man-induced global warming to his belief in the theory of evolution (GASP!) to working WITH the Democrats.

Curls for example calls him a RINO.

Meaningless and ignorant? Of course.

But then he calls Bush one as well (now), and Hagel, and gawd knows who else…

Apparently to this “real conservative” there are now exceptionally few “real” Republicans…

ITN, I have never figured out why ricky just begs for the abuse here, but as you well know, he does.

By AntiRadical

March 20, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Sorry I missed response to detractors yesterday afternoon but was called away to attend to an emergency. Please forgive my lateness and accept my following posts in response:

RW- Your reference to “The Three Trillion Dollar War” as a “fictional war cost book” is most amusing, considering that it was written by Nobel laureate and former chief World Bank economist, Joseph Stiglitz, and co-author Linda Bilmes of Harvard University. It is a very in-depth study that is quite thoroughly documented, my good fellow. Until you show me equivalent credentials, I believe that I will accept their word over your partisan, simple-minded, blind, intractable, and juvenile sophist meanderings. Facts are facts, RW; data has no agenda. You may not like what they prove but facts and data do not lie.

“There are none so deaf as those who will not hear. None so blind as those who will not see.”- Matthew Henry, Presbyterian English Clergyman, 1706.

“The Three Trillion Dollar War” proves the willful traitorous deceit and manipulation of the American people by a corrupt and criminal Republican administration. They have led us down the primrose path to economic disaster and have very likely destroyed the American dream for all our progeny. Instead of having shame for your past support of Bush & Co, as I do, you choose to continue to bury your head in the sand and squawk your pathetic dilettante. I do pity you, the eternal deaf and blind man.

By Copyleft

March 20, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

“The guy walking down the street towards you with a gun kills a bunch of Iranians, a bunch of Kuwaitis and then starts shooting at his own people, right in front of you, quick, now what?”

Stay out of that neighborhood, obviously. I guess that didn’t occur to Gee Dubya.

And by the way… he’s not walking TOWARD you. He’s staying right where he is, posing no threat to YOU whatsoever.

By AntiRadical

March 20, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

@@- I am also amused by your chastising me for non-objectivity. Considering that it is you who wishes to stifle the free speech of the Rev “Wright” is this not one more instances of the pot calling the proverbial kettle black? I served 4 years as an HM 8482, patching up fallen soldiers in the ‘Nam conflict. Not combat, but I did my part. I volunteered (not drafted) to do this primarily so that the Rev Wright, you, RW, getalife, me, and all other Americans could continue to have a free voice. Your and others of your ilk’s ramblings strike me as one more rousing chorus of STFU from the righteous right. Everyone should have a free voice and the right to hear that voice, except when your exaltedness disagrees with them, right?

Yes, my sweetness, the Rev Wright has earned the right to his opinion and free speech, so have you, so have I, so has everyone. It is what entails freedom of speech in our great nation. I may not, and don’t agree with everything he says, but I would die to protect his, or your, right to have their say, and the right of anyone to sit in whatever lawful forum they wish in order to listen to any free speech they wish. I can, also, place myself in the shoes of a black man of his generation and understand (not agree with) his angry rhetoric. I suppose that is your definition of non-objectivity?

As to your reference to my religion (Buddhism), I am very happy to see that you are attempting to improve yourself. Keep studying, dearest. You may yet come to know the inner tranquility and virtue that comes through right speech, right action, and right livelihood. I wish you Buddha’s speed and rightness in your quest. Or maybe I and those of my faith should, also, just STFU?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Amvet - he has some trumped up media and political connections….. he’s big dissociative man on campus!

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

The story of the ethnic and sectarian civil war in Iraq is very difficult to understand. Dont be so hard on McCain, cause he thinks the surge is working. When asked what that means, he said, “there’s soldiers patrolling, with helmets, and tommyguns, and ratatattat kill the gooks, kill them all, we will win and the glory belongs to god, they held me prisoner, we cant let them get away with it, we’ll fight and destroy the enemy even if it takes a thousand years, they’ll say this was our hour, maybe not our finest, but a good hour, certainly….”

He’ll make an excellent president.

Obamamania. It’s America, Stupid.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Andy,

We only have one policeman on our force? And we’re it? And there are crazed assassins killing scores of people all over the world? Well, that seems kind of dumb to not employ some other policemen who are just as committed to peace and democracy as we are to try and handle these lone assassins. I don’t care how big and bad a$$ you are, taking out all the crazed assassins by yourself, you’re bound to get a little tired and demoralized.

N-GA,

No, that answer was very reasonable, and one I agree with. I asked RW, when the Taliban was an immediate threat to address the context issue. The Taliban was an immediate threat to us in the fall of 2001 - and apparently a BIG immediate threat, and if we’d had intelligence to support that threat, then yes, I’d be all for using military force to address that threat. And if that brief given to the President in August 2001 had spoke of the 9/11 attacks, I’d say round up our boys and blow the other boys all to hell.

But IRAQ being a threat between 2001 and 2003? I don’t like apples and oranges mixed together in my fruit salad. The texture is just all wrong.

Like I said earlier, just because a country has the capability to attack doesn’t mean they will. If that were the case, then hell, we might as well take out India, Pakistan and North Korea, and all the other countries that have the big weapons.

By Shawny

March 20, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

geesh…cartoon boy is once again bashing conservatives. Think McCain is a flake? They are all flakes. How about illustrating the flaky Obama? Need some help?

By N-GA

March 20, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Just think about the following scenario:

Venezuela attacks Columbia because they went after terrorists in Bolivia.

Bush, citing some treaty with Columbia and their right of pre-emption then attacks Venezuela.

Oops! I forgot we’re out of available troops. Well, we can just re-cycle them. You know. When they return from Afghanistan, give them 30 days R&R then send them to fight in Venezuela. When they finish that tour, bring them home for 30 more days of R&R, then send them to Iraq. Perhaps Bush can involve Iran before his term is over. Talk about an angry white man!!!

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Bosch, by addressing Retardo Montelbaum, you become mired in his last year’s story mentality. Your comments may have been cutting edge… five years ago….

Andy thinks he’s Citizen Kane. He gets angry when he sees news. He’s not so much Rosebud as Blowspud, however.

real rich cutting edge blather

Obamamania. It’s America, stupids.

By Shawny

March 20, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

And Big O is clueless about global trade.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Bill Maher on McCain: “Not Tougher. Dumber.”

By Goldie

March 20, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

{{then hell, we might as well take out India, Pakistan and North Korea, and all the other countries that have the big weapons. }}

Careful there, Bosch— that’s exactly what we can expect if Sen. McBush becomes the next prez! He’s just itching to keep us involved in wars and occupations for the next generation or two…

By Copyleft

March 20, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

AmVet: Their lack of excitement over their own candidate is, indeed, funny to watch. And a bit sad to recall how well that grudging-nomination process worked for Kerry.

McCain doesn’t stand a chance. After all his campaigning, he’s only won the opportuity to come in second. “And the winner for GOP sacrificial candidate is….!”

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Obama sure did look and sound like our defacto president yesterday. He’s a true leader, and he unites. He came across as presidential as f’n FDR in fireside chats. he spoke directly to me with words he chose.

Obamamanio. It’s Americo, stupido.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

AND, that scenario is rather close to home, and not half way around the world.

I don’t care how big and bad you are, if you decide to take on the whole evil gang by yourself, eventually, the evil gang will wear you down, and then kick your a$$.

Maybe Arnold or Sylvestor Stallone could have done that in their younger years in the movies, but Stallone is busy injecting hormones and Arnold is busy running California. We need some more help!

Maybe Harrison Ford, no he’s too old now, I’m running out of hero ideas. Got any?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

I noticed this posted yesterday -

(wanna bet who the REAL poster is???)

{{{By Army

March 19, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Bob, you are a real piece of work. The United States Military is the finest fighting force in the world. We have the best trained and educated soldiers in history. You would not have the courage to make such a statement to any member of the military in person. You, in short, are a coward. These young men and women believe in this mission in Iraq and that is why so many are staying. Deal with that truth, with that FACT.}}}

I think it contrasts nicely with:

Cheney On Two-Thirds Of The American Public Opposing The Iraq War: ‘So?’

Thinking out loud here….

220 MILLION or so oppose the war

160 THOUSAND Troops (largest number who made campaign donations to the anti war candidates) really love what they are doing….

Interesting.

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

McCain sure did look presidential when he muffed the sectarian split in Iraq and Iran again like most of elected officials have done since 911.

Mainstream McCain: It’s the Shia, Stupid.

By jason

March 20, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

The US has failed in its’ idiotic mandate to promote the American version of “democracy” and ram it down others’ throats, until there is no more common-sense individuals to stop us..and then call it “successful”….any true “patriot” would recognize that Iraqis are trying to repel foreign unwanted invaders who attack under pseudo-legit reasons to protect oil….we did the same thing in Kurdistan, etc…however, all the oil from Iraq is flowing to Russia and China…how has it been successful?? promoting “democracy” is as vague as a “war on terror”..you cannot have any success with no goals…we are just embarrassing ourselves…..mccain is an older, more senile verson of cowboy bush…..mccain also “misspeaks” all the time and has no shame…..or is just too senile to care….oops I pooped ‘em…..who cares about the economy?? I know nothing about it….it is not a problem…..it wouldn’t hurt if all immigrants go back to their countries…..would that include mccain, it is irish name…or just meaning mexicans…..he should be more specific…..in his diatribe….what a xenophobic, racist moron….perfect for us…..you get the leader you deserve…

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Before this war, some heroes stood up.

By jason

March 20, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

The most courageous “patriots” are the ones such as vets against the war who have the guts to speak out against this waste of human time, money, life…for nothing, except to help neocons privatize our defense into blackwater getting paid ten times as much….they even got no-bid contracts to patrol NO after Katrina….private right-wing bush funded mercenary force in our homeland and doesn’t make the news!!!!

Whoever is too ignorant to know what is going on shouldn’t be posting anything…

The brainwashed soldier’s family who still supports the war after so much needless sacrifice is shameful…. maybe one day they will wake up and realize useless loss of life is not “courageous” it is not “patriotic”…it is a waste of our most precious resources, which could be benefiting our own country…..

Americans were outraged during Vietnam’s “police action”….now we are all apathetic….as our rights are trampled upon…..some still think there are WMDs and the global warming is myth….these shallow end of gene pool specimens are ruining our collective future….while the rest of the world forges ahead without us……

It is true our country is racist, and that we don’t care about what we inflict on others, or who, or why….the fact is, all the hijackers were from Saudi Arabis, al qaeda has nothing to do with iraq, even slimeball bill mentioned this…..wake up……

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Jason: very sage, my fine friend. by the time we leave Iraq, our peaceful socio-cultural revolution will be in full flower. Blackwater mercenaries will be soldiers without jobs, and the rich and gated will hire them to patrol the gated communities that rise so superior above our own delapidated sugar shacks. There will be Mai Lais all over America, just as there was against New Orlean Citizens who tried to cross that bridge and were shot-gunned to death by blackwater knights. Remember that? How did they get away with that? Who owns the media? Conservatives.

There’s your definition of conservatism: dont allow the media 2 report the gentry’s genocide against the rabble.

Obama. Its about America, stupid.

By Glenn

March 20, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

“The most courageous “patriots” are the ones such as…”

You care much about courage and patriotism do you, jason?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Glenn you sure sound like HIM too!

“Frank: I’m sick of hearing about the wounded! What about the thousands of wonderful men who are fighting this war without any of the credit or the glory that always goes to those lucky few who just happen to get shot?”

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Obama: He wont Mai Lais our sorry azzes like Blackwater Bush will.

Obamamania: It’s about America, fella’s.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

AMERICA: WHAT’S NOT TO MINDLESSLY LOVE?

By The Devil You Say

March 20, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

ITHN - As far as 2/3rds of the public opposing the war and Cheney saying: “So what.” That is what one calls leadership. You don’t govern by polls, and you certainly don’t make national security decisions by poll. Lincoln would have just let the South go at the end of 1862 if that were the case. He most certainly would have after the Battle of Chancellorsville and the draft riots in New York City and Baltimore. It would have been very easy for either Truman or Eisenhower to just completely abandon South Korea, but that did not happen. We are in a fight for our very existance as a nation and as a culture. Surrender and abandonment of the field is NOT an option.

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Obama’s appearance during that speech yesterday became an instant icon seared into america’s heart and soul.

Obamamania. It’s America, stipends.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

“We are in a fight for our very existance as a nation and as a culture. Surrender and abandonment of the field is NOT an option. “

Thanks for the input Little Ricky.

By Glenn

March 20, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

ITN, better “ferret face” than a Sensitive Male of the ’80s, like limpdik Alda. But actually I’m more like Charles, a sensitive man of some other century.

Inherit America:

What in heck is THIS: “Obama’s appearance during that speech yesterday became an instant icon seared into america’s heart and soul”?

Yeah, seared into us like “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.”

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Wrong, devil. We are trapped in Iraq. We cant leave. Only a fool would suggest that we can. The geo-political door closed behind us as soon as we went in. It is the boondoggle of the ages, and it will ruin us both financially and spiritually.

Why? Why cant we just leave? For the same reason McCain mixed up the multi-subsetted ethno-sectarian theo-military fronts of the 10K year old civil war in Iraq.

We didn’t break it, but we set fire to the pieces, hoping that we could forge them together in a conflagratory kiln of shock and awe.

If we’d let them fight their civil war, we might have a chance. Civil wars usually stalemate into perpetual political compromises. Ours did, not militarily, but culturally, and we had to abandon reconstruction and let the south be the south until time killed the lost cause.

Till stalemate, both sides think they can win. We’re unwittingly putting off the civil war until both sides get new tech weapons that could threaten the entire globe. This wasn’t supposed to happen in the natural evolution and maturation of Iraq. Our own civil war today would be fought with nukes. You know it, I know it, the american people know it.

We are trapped in Iraq until one side gets nukes, about five years, and then civilization as we know it will be over.

Bush screwed up THAT bad. But this is last years story. I’ve posted this very message since march of 2003 when I googled the kurds. If everyone would simply google the kurds and read for two minutes, you’d know what’s dead ahead for Iraq.

If you’re so behind the curve, dont post.

Kurds 08: Google them stupid.

By getalife

March 20, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Clinton is leading by 20 in WV and Penn.

Obama will get crushed and should drop out.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Ferret Face at 12:30

If this is what you call “limpdik” it’s obvious your judgement is really crappy…..so much for anything else you share with us.

Biography for Alan Alda

I suspect based on that nasty little slime that YOU are having a little problem cutting the mustard!

By MomCat

March 20, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

By getalife March 20, 2008 12:38 PM Clinton is leading by 20 in WV and Penn. Obama will get crushed and should drop out.

Getalife: HOPE you’re right, but don’t really know….crazies on the right…crazies on the left….No HOPE for America.

By Glenn

March 20, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

ITN, were it a problem it would be a big one. And that is DEFINITELY the bio of a nebbish so deeply in touch with his billmoyeristic Feminine Side that he forgot where he put it.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Ferret Face

You are one tense fella….

Napolean Complex?

Or just plain jealous?

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

{{{{The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows John McCain’s lead >>>growing<<< against both potential Democratic opponents. McCain currently leads Barack Obama 49% to 42% and Hillary Clinton 51% to 41% margin (see recent daily results). African-American support for Clinton has collapsed, falling to 55% in the general election match-up.}}}}

Hehehehe.

Obambi is America hating fringe kook, Ku Klux Rodham is a pathological liar and a pig, McCain is a “maverick.”

Pretty easy choice.

By getalife

March 20, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

MomCat,

Clinton does not have a radical kook spiritual adviser screaming God damn America or eliminate Islam.

Clinton will win and save this country from w’s disasters.

There is hope but not with radicals like BO or McKook.

Clintons are our only hope.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

John McCain and George W Bush: Love Story

By getalife

March 20, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Lieberman correcting McKook on Israel was hilarious.

He is dumber than w and will continue the destruction w started.

Why do you hate America?

By Fly_on_the_Wall

March 20, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

I find it interesting that the conservatives here who use the example of “if someone was killing all these other people what would you do?” example. They want us to step in and fight the ‘bad guy’. If we had used that same logic in the cold war this planet would be nothing but a radioactive wasteland. From their logic we should have invaded the U.S.S.R. & China since those were (and maybe still are) run by evil dictators/governments and they kill lots of their own citizens. With their logic why didn’t we invade China back in ‘89 for Tienmen Square? I thought CONTAINMENT worked just fine and that’s what we were doing with Saddam. He couldn’t fly a plane outside his own country without us knowing it. Remember, we had the northern & southern third of his country under a no-fly zone. How the heck was he going to deliver those supposed WMDs to the U.S.? You have taken the bait and swallowed it whole.

By The Devil You Say

March 20, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Inherit - If we are indeed trapped, then you would agree that we cannot leave. You contradict yourself. I, however, happen to agree, except that we are trapped in the same way that we are always trapped by national security concerns. We must do this or else we are sacrificing any credibility with the rest of the world. We lost too much after we deserted South Vietnam.

And as far as being ‘stuck’ in Iraq, we are still ‘stuck’ in South Korea, Japan, Germany, Italy and Kuwait. Obligations are obligations. That is what we call responsibility. When you make a committment as an individual or a nation, you must stand by it or be looked upon as arrogant and unreliable.

By Fly_on_the_Wall

March 20, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

I find it interesting that the conservatives here who use the example of “if someone was killing all these other people what would you do?” example. They want us to step in and fight the ‘bad guy’. If we had used that same logic in the cold war this planet would be nothing but a radioactive wasteland. From their logic we should have invaded the U.S.S.R. & China since those were (and maybe still are) run by evil dictators/governments and they kill lots of their own citizens. With their logic why didn’t we invade China back in ‘89 for Tienmen Square? I thought CONTAINMENT worked just fine and that’s what we were doing with Saddam. He couldn’t fly a plane outside his own country without us knowing it. Remember, we had the northern & southern third of his country under a no-fly zone. How the heck was he going to deliver those supposed WMDs to the U.S.? You have taken the bait and swallowed it whole.

By getalife

March 20, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Here is Andy’s kook:

Countdown: Grandpa McCain’s Iran “Gaffe” Becomes A Talking Point

Voting for McBush shows you hate your country Andy.

Why?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

FLY ON THE WALL

I hear that Ricky Retardo and his platoon o’ fools is are enlisting to fight in Tibet!

By The Devil You Say

March 20, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Fly - There is a big difference in the circumstances surrounding the Truman Doctrine (containment) and today’s circumstances. To what location are we going to ‘contain’ the likes of al Qaeda? Remember we got attacked on our own soil, as did the British and the Spanish. Also, we did not defeat the Soviet Union because of the policy of containment. Reagan went after them aggressively and persued policies that caused the political and economic collapse of the Soviet Bloc. This war is a different kind of war. We never were just fighting Saddam Hussein. We are fighting ISLAMIC terrorism. Containment did not work in the Cold War and it won’t work in this one.

By The Devil You Say

March 20, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Fly - I forgot to mention one other fundamental difference which you did touch on - our enemies had nuclear weapons during the Cold War. Had they not, it would have quickly become a shooting war, and it did in places like Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan. We did not want to be nuked, so we were reduced to proxy wars. Again, this is a different conflict with different rules. You are fighting a war we won, but it is still a different war!

By Spike

March 20, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Ahh, I see that the weak repugs are busy here today. These are people who live solely in order to be told what TO do and what NOT to do. They share the usual sweet neocon dreams of railcars, barbed wire, and ovens. Their words here are but another close encounter with the great unwashed.

By Kindergarten Teacher

March 20, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Spike - it’s a shame that you are so immature and feckless that you cannot critisize without resorting to nasty accusations and casting unjustified aspersions upon those with whom you have an honest disagreement. Now go back home until you learn how to play nice.

By @@

March 20, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

AntiR @ 10:19:

I chastised you for being NON-objective? For the record, here’s exactly what I said:

(((It appears as though you’ve blown back ——>a little less objective<—— than when you left here.)))

“a little less” does not equate to totally hUN.

I believe that with the freedoms that you, and others, so generously provided, come responsibilities that Reverend Wright chooses to ignore…

and that is his responsibility to a younger generations’ right to reach their own conclusions without the destructive “benefit” of his ingrained hatred.

I was assuming that you still view life through a philosophical lense as do I. A parent who emotionally abuses a child is likely to cultivate a future parent who emotionally abuses a child and thus the cycle perpetuates itself.

Obviously I was mistaken. You’ve given up on the belief that children are to be protected from cynical and embittered adults.

Rev. Wright would do well to revisit a definition of rights:

“A right is a natural or God-given permit received at birth, to act in ONE’S own SELF-interest with TOTAL CONTROL over ONE’S OWN LIFE and property ——>AS LONG AS OTHERS ARE NOT INJURED<—— nor their property taken or damaged.”

Just so you understand completely - I’ve always viewed a child’s imagination as an inherent property which should be left to expand in the way that only a child’s can.

Unencumbered…

Please do forgive ME for expressing such HATRED. While you’re at it, show me where I have EVER told anyone here to STFU.

You can’t…

By Bill

March 20, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

kinder Teach: Hush now. You & your like cannot possibly compete w folks like Spike, Bosch, AmVet, N GA, etc. They’re waaay over your head. You don’t comprehend. The shoe fits you, does it not? Don’t answer - I don’t fancy to little people. Unless you need it for your tiny…ego.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

The Iraq War’s Greatest Hits • Before 2003, Iraq had no ties to Al Qaeda. Now it’s a terrorist breeding ground and distraction from the war on terror—the one that was against the Al Qaeda that existed before we created the new one in Iraq. • Remember how Ahmad Chalabi conned the White House into invading Iraq? Suckers. Hard-nosed journalists would have never fallen for his crap. Oh wait—they did. • So maybe it was a bad idea to take the soldiers involved in prisoner abuse in Afghanistan and send them to run prisons in Iraq. • But then, the highest-ranking officer to be tried for the abuses at Abu Ghraib was let off with a slap on the wrist. Clearly, there’s nothing more to see here. • Hey, Senator McCain—we know that it’s hard to keep track of that Sunni-Shia thing. Our “Iraq for Dummies” handbook can help. • The good news: More GIs are surviving their combat wounds than ever before. The bad news: More than 3,900 have died. And more than 4,600 have suffered serious head or brain injuries; more than 1,300 are amputees. • Saddam’s WMDs were nonexistent, but he did have real, live weapons researchers whom the U.S. let slip slip through the cracks. Just promise you’ll keep that nefarious know-how to yourselves, guys!

• Public service announcement: Getting out of Iraq is gonna be ugly any way you slice it.

• So many lies, so little time—lies about WMDs, lies about progress on the ground, lies about torture. We’ve been collecting them in our “Lie By Lie” timeline—years of official mendacity at your fingertips!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, Hillary Clinton is a lot more vulnerable than Barack Obama.

NOTE TO FERRET FACE AT 1:35 and 1:47 YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY GET PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION TO YOU IF YOU WOULD QUIT

BEING A LIAR

AND STICK TO ONE NAME.

OH, NEVER MIND

BUSH, CHENEY, RUMMY , ETC

WERE ALL LIARS TOO….

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Webb: McCain Refuses To Co-Sponsor GI Bill For Post-9/11 Veterans

By Fly_on_the_Wall

March 20, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

I find it interesting that the conservatives here who use the example of “if someone was killing all these other people what would you do?” example. They want us to step in and fight the ‘bad guy’. If we had used that same logic in the cold war this planet would be nothing but a radioactive wasteland. From their logic we should have invaded the U.S.S.R. & China since those were (and maybe still are) run by evil dictators/governments and they kill lots of their own citizens. With their logic why didn’t we invade China back in ‘89 for Tienmen Square? I thought CONTAINMENT worked just fine and that’s what we were doing with Saddam. He couldn’t fly a plane outside his own country without us knowing it. Remember, we had the northern & southern third of his country under a no-fly zone. How the heck was he going to deliver those supposed WMDs to the U.S.? You have taken the bait and swallowed it whole.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

McCain baselessly asserted Iran/al Qaeda ties last month.

Liar or Idiot?

By Paul

March 20, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

getalife

The other night BOR defended Hillary and took shots at MoveOn for muzzling speech. Even ran a clip from last August when he predicted this would happen.

Will wonders never cease?

BTW - 42 Below - good stuff, smooooth. Thx.

By GMAN

March 20, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

The “cracker factor” has kicked in for the GOP!

By Glenn

March 20, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

ITN, I haven’t been alter-egoing, I just don’t care for Alan Alda!

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Obama’s appearance during THE speech has become an instant icon searing his presidency into our heartland.

Obamamania: It’s America, Stupe.

By Paul

March 20, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Fly on the wall

Cool. A noninterventionist liberal. Somehow, I don’t think the rest of liberal America will buy it.

So, pull out of Bosnia. After all, the Kosovo Muslims are in … Kosovo. If they don’t want to die they should leave.

Stay out of Sudan. Famine? Genocide? Heck, it’s contained to Darfur.

Remember Nigeria? Hutus slaughtering Tutsis? Half a million killed in a few months? See, wait long enough, it stops by itself. Hey, the French have all kinds of problems by intervening in Africa. They just don’t understand containment.

//Sarc//

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Mr. Devil,

“To what location are we going to ‘contain’ the likes of al Qaeda?”

Exactly. So why did we attempt to do so in Iraq?

“Remember we got attacked on our own soil”

Exactly. So, why did we send a huge chunk of our military force and resources to a country that posed no immediate threat to us in an attempt to contain an enemy as slippery as Jell-O, while in the meantime leaving our homeland vunerable?

Also, the British and the Spanish didn’t invade a country (well, the British stood behind us when we went in) in a vain attempt to contain al-Qaeda, which is kind of surprising to me considering that they are actually geographically more at risk than we are.

Go figure.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

OBAMA BRILLIANT ON THE ECONOMY TODAY

By Fly_on_the_Wall

March 20, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

I find it interesting that the conservatives here who use the example of “if someone was killing all these other people what would you do?” example. They want us to step in and fight the ‘bad guy’. If we had used that same logic in the cold war this planet would be nothing but a radioactive wasteland. From their logic we should have invaded the U.S.S.R. & China since those were (and maybe still are) run by evil dictators/governments and they kill lots of their own citizens. With their logic why didn’t we invade China back in ‘89 for Tienmen Square? I thought CONTAINMENT worked just fine and that’s what we were doing with Saddam. He couldn’t fly a plane outside his own country without us knowing it. Remember, we had the northern & southern third of his country under a no-fly zone. How the heck was he going to deliver those supposed WMDs to the U.S.? You have taken the bait and swallowed it whole.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

He Shoots, He Scores! Obama on Sports Radio WIP

By Glenn

March 20, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Paul, to your Sudan litany, you might as well throw in slavery while you’re at it. It never hurts. Never does any good, but never hurts. Come to think of it, as long as you’re being futile you mind want do drop in a word for the masses murdered there for their Christianity. I find that this touch can add that special bright note to “genocide”.

By getalife

March 20, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I have watched fixed noise to see them attack BO and his wright kook.

It shows how they will attack him if the dems are dumb enough to run him.

Nothing will change and McBush will finish off our country.

By Fly_on_the_Wall

March 20, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Sorry folks, the browser was acting very strange.

By Georgia 74

March 20, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

What a great day, the sun is shining, its the first day of spring, and God gave us a Scooter Libby(disbarred) and Chuck Hagel both in one day.

By Go figure

March 20, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

We can only guess why IT(h)N finds everything Obama says is brilliant. IT(h)N exclusively posts links to what other people say. IT(h)N, the lib, needs to rely on the brilliance of others. He doesn’t have any he can call his own.

By tiff

March 20, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

IN THE (HUSSEIN)NEWS Your posts and links to newspaper articles and different websites are both informing and WELL APPRECIATED.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Straight talk from John McCain

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

This one makes me chuckle

By Paul

March 20, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

IThN 2:03

You’re back with the funny links! Thanks!

“Webb: McCain Refuses To Co-Sponsor GI Bill For Post-9/11 Veterans”

“Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) introduced the Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2007, intended to be “a mirror image of the WW II G.I. Bill.”

“The (current) Montgomery GI Bill – described by Webb at last week’s hearing as “a peacetime G.I. bill”

LOL! The “WWII GI Bill was enacted in 1944 to address the needs of the nation while it was at peace! After the war ended. Roosevelt wanted to prevent another depression. So the 1944 Bill (WWII ended 1945) is really, like the current Mongtomery GI Bill, a peacetime GI bill.

I love your subtle humor.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Go figure

March 20, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

We can only guess why IT(h)N finds everything Obama says is brilliant. IT(h)N exclusively posts links to what other people say. IT(h)N, the lib, needs to rely on the brilliance of others. He doesn’t have any he can call his own.}}}

ANY TROUBLE FIGURING OUT WHO THAT WAS?

Little Ricky Retardo Duh the headcase from Gwinnett who’s mad as Zell can be brilliant in his own mind…

and voice it in his six or seven charcters……

From Bran Flakes time

to

Happy Hour

and still be a LIAR

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Thanks tiff…..

Sorry about the boogey man here….

Karma will kick him in the pants eventually.

By Paul

March 20, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Glenn

Be nice.

:-)

getalife

For the record, I find some of the Fox reporting and opinions on this Sen Obama story a bit over the top.

Then again, I found ignoring the issue and implications on network news and many newspapers a bit under the top.

By Senator Obama

March 20, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Let’s be Frank.

It turns out that Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.

Drat! I can’t win for losing.

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Nixon had his “Checkers” speech.

Obama had his “Crackers” speech.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

So Paul, you’re pretty funny yourself.

In fact that whole story is pretty damn funny…

{{{McCain prides himself on being “a tireless advocate of our military.” Yet this is hardly the first time that Webb has taken McCain to task when it comes to veterans’ advocacy. In September, McCain refused to support Webb’s bill to ensure service members get adequate time at home between deployments. McCain castigated the effort, declaring he “hoped” Congress would reject the bill because it “would create chaos.”

McCain boasts on his website that he “fought to extend the availability of G.I. bill education benefits for Vietnam veterans.” Yet he has been notably silent on extending those same benefits to today’s veterans. Perhaps, like the Pentagon, he is resisting the bill “out of fear that too many will use it.”

McCain has repeatedly voted to funnel billions of dollars to fund the war in Iraq, whose costs along with the war in Afghanistan, according to some experts, have already totaled more than $3 trillion. By contrast, the cost of the new G.I. bill is projected to be about $2.5 billion a year — roughly the cost of U.S. operations in Iraq for one week. }}}

I got tears in my eyes from laughing …

By RB from Gwinnett

March 20, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Bosch, after reading some of the garbage you’ve posted today, you strike me as the kind of person who would look the other way and keep walking if someone was being attacked across the street from you and do nothing to help because it doesn’t involve you. Thats effectively EXACTLY what you’ve said about us being in the middle east. They’re not a threat to us and we shouldn’t get involved.

For your sake, I hope there are decent people across the street if your family is ever attacked and not people like you.

By Obama is a terrorist

March 20, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Thanks to Sean Hannity the truth about Obama is coming out, even more terrorist friends, America haters and so forth. This guy is a joke, no liberal media will pick up the stories that are coming out about his past. Bottom line this guy is a liar, has no experience, his own state has high unemployment, murder, and taxes. Where was the change for his own State???? The rest of you freakin Obama supporters I can not wait until election so you can see you are the minority in this country because the REAL America will never allow him to be president.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Barack the Shamrock O’Bama?

By RB from Gwinnett

March 20, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Bosch, after reading some of the garbage you’ve posted today, you strike me as the kind of person who would look the other way and keep walking if someone was being attacked across the street from you and do nothing to help because it doesn’t involve you. Thats effectively EXACTLY what you’ve said about us being in the middle east. They’re not a threat to us and we shouldn’t get involved.

For your sake, I hope there are decent people across the street if your family is ever attacked and not people like you.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Under the top? Maybe because Obama kind of closed the case with his speech and he’s letting the American people work it out for themselves.

Over the top? That’s because Fox News goes into their crazed rabid, foaming at the mouth mode of reporting anything negative about a Democrat.

By Paul

March 20, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

IThN

Seriously, if I had to guess, I’d guess McCain’s nonsupport of Webb’s bill has more to do with a philosophical difference. The goal under an all volunteer force is to get people to make a career - at least 20 years. The current GI Bill is an inducement to sign up - provides a decent program for school if someone doesn’t want to stay in, but it isn’t so generous that people would think “I’d have to be an idiot to stay in.”

For the other rotation issue, didn’t Webb and others say the real objective was, if they couldn’t force the President’s hand on Iraq, they’d do this so it would be impossible to continue with the current rotation system?

I’d also guess McCain, as a career military officer, isn’t all that keen on politicians dictating so much of the “how” rather than the “what” of what they want done.

Careful on the aspersions of McCain voting to funnel billions - if that’s a bad thing you’ll have to include Obama and Hillary on your bad people list.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

DAMN

HAPPY HOUR IS STARTING EARLY TODAY….

OH! NO!

Somebody Obama knew as a child was a communist!

Maybe he knew some athiests and aliens too!

Better hope he has no muslim friends!

Or worse yet Catholic buddies - those w******* - (that’s what Hagee says anyway)

#

BREAKING: Reverend Wright crap came from McCain campaign

Some guy’s been suspended.

#

I’d like to get you on a swift boat to China

One of Rosemary Clooney’s best.

Was he stupid enough to think it could not/ would not be traced!

By Georgia 74

March 20, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

RB if you saw someone being assaulted on your street, you’d probably pee in your pants, start crying and run and hide, your just another George Bush type chicken-hawk. Your pretty sickening.

By Paul

March 20, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

IThN 3:11

I read Marx when I was 13. I was smitten by a lovely French foreign exchange student, who was extremely smart, and a communist, when I was 15.

That’s why I can never run for office.

Bosch,

I was referring to how the NBC and ABC evening news had zero reporting when it came to light. Before the speech. Same with several papers in major cities.

Gotta keep in mind with Fox - guys like Hannity are conserrrrrrvate Republicans. Other networks, the Olbermans and Mathews are liiiiiiibral Democrats. They just aren’t as up-front about it.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

RB,

Well you have me all wrong then. I’ve luckily never been in a situation where someone was being attacked, so I can’t say how I’d react, but I know I wouldn’t turn away and run. That I can guarantee you. And if someone attacked one of my family members, I’d fight like hell, or die trying.

And if you are trying to take my metaphors literally, which, to be honest, I’m really not surprised at you doing so, I’ll say this:

No one lives across the street from me - just one big empty field, so I guess I’m screwed in the case of attack, huh?

But that isn’t what we are talking about, now is it?

You strike me as the type of person who, when faced with no come back in a debate, starts flinging insults, like a child who gets frustrated when they know they are beat and calls the other child a “doo doo head” or something like that.

So would you like to continue our debate about Iraq or shall we simply make up metaphors? I’m game, I’m kind of bored this afternoon- at least for another 45 minutes or so.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Oh and RB,

I never said Iraq wasn’t a threat, I said they weren’t an IMMEDIATE threat. Do you see the difference?

North Korea is a threat to us too - do we go in and invade them as well?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

McCain: kill ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out

By mm

March 20, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

AJCM,

This poll has McCain behind

I’m sure if I looked hard enough I could find a poll that has Mr. Spock in the lead.

By Paul

March 20, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

IThN 3:25

McCain’s quoting al Qaeda?!!?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Paul…

That’s funny ….me too.

Catholic School?

And of course, The Prince.

(Also read The Godfather, Portnoys Complaint, Valley of the Dolls - stole them from under my folks mattress)

By mm

March 20, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Another wingnut congressman cuts and runs

Reminds me of childhood when the spoiled little brat couldn’t get his way, so he took his ball and went home.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Maybe because it’s kind of a non-issue. Just kidding.

Zero coverage? Are you sure? You really want to say ZERO? Anyway, how do you know all this stuff?

I’ve heard people say that this makes them question Obama’s judgement - and guess what? That comes from people who wouldn’t say anything positive about a Democrat if Jesus Christ came down from heaven with a big picture of a donkey tattooed on his chest.

Obama didn’t vote for the Iraq War which shows me he’s got a hell of a good head on his shoulders - he saw through all the bullsh!t.

By Copyleft

March 20, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Still waiting for all the conservatives to explain how “excited” they are about Johnny McLame… still nothing.

Surprise, surprise!

It’s great to be a REAL American, and not a tired old Republican loser! Wheeee!

By Drat

March 20, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Obama is Polish

A new Franklin & Marshall College poll of PA Dem RVs out this a.m. shows Hillary Clinton leading Barack Obama 50-28%, an increase from her Feb. lead of 44-32%. (Among LVs, Clinton now leads 51-35%.) Clinton leads among men by 7%, women by 33%, union households by 38% and whites by 31%; Obama leads among non-whites by 27%.

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

mmoron: Oh yeah, See B.S. “news,” there you go.

~~~~~

Look at DHIMMI NEWS posting compliments to itself:

{{{{By tiff March 20, 2008 2:42 PM IN THE (HUSSEIN)NEWS Your posts and links to newspaper articles and different websites are both informing and WELL APPRECIATED.}}}}

Pretty bizarre, ain’t it?

By Hey

March 20, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Excuses are like A55holes everyone has one. Obama is running for president, his past should be looked at, why shouldn’t it? Your guys examples are retarded, and always the same, what about this or that, waaaa waaaaa waaaa. Have a real reason, “in the news” you freaking moron.

By Paul

March 20, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

IThN 3:31

Actually, I was 14 when smitten by the French communist. Not Catholic school - that would’ve really put me over the top. Had enough trouble in public school. I was 12 and was reading Dr. No (James Bond) on break in school. Teacher grabbed it, read part of it and launched about trash in her classroom. Called my folks. They didn’t see the problem - they’d given it to me.

BTW - I was quite confused. When she handed me back the book I read the part she’d been scanning. Was describing flowers and hummingbirds on the tropical island. Go figure -

Interesting books to hide under a mattress, there, IThN. You must have felt like you’d died and gone to heaven when you got to a college lit class. What happened the first time your spouse turned the mattress?

Bosch

Yeah, first time it hit the rest of the media it was zero in several examples. I’m pretty careful with using absolutes.

I’ve stopped looking for a reincarnation of Jesus to run the country. I’d be happy with someone more in the mold of, say, Peter, right after he denied Jesus three times. At least he felt bad, learned from it, and went on to better things.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Letters FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES

I Knew Gene Kelly. The President Is No Gene Kelly.

Published: March 19, 2008 To the Editor:

Surely it must have been a slip for Maureen Dowd to align the artistry of my late husband, Gene Kelly, with the president’s clumsy performances. To suggest that “George Bush has turned into Gene Kelly” represents not only an implausible transformation but a considerable slight. If Gene were in a grave, he would have turned over in it.

When Gene was compared to the grace and agility of Jack Dempsey, Wayne Gretzky and Willie Mays, he was delighted. But to be linked with a clunker — particularly one he would consider inept and demoralizing — would have sent him reeling.

Graduated with a degree in economics from Pitt, Gene was not only a gifted dancer, director and choreographer, he was also a most civilized man. He spoke multiple languages; wrote poetry; studied history; understood the projections of Adam Smith and John Maynard Keynes. He did the Sunday Times crossword in ink. Exceedingly articulate, Gene often conveyed more through movement than others manage with words.

Sadly, President Bush fails to communicate meaningfully with either. For George Bush to become Gene Kelly would require impossible leaps in creativity, erudition and humility.

Patricia Ward Kelly Los Angeles, March 16, 2008

SINGING IN THE RAIN…..

By Paul

March 20, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Oh, from my 3:47 - I don’t think Jesus held it against him.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

{{{By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

mmoron: Oh yeah, See B.S. “news,” there you go.

~~~~~

Look at DHIMMI NEWS posting compliments to itself:

{{{{By tiff March 20, 2008 2:42 PM IN THE (HUSSEIN)NEWS Your posts and links to newspaper articles and different websites are both informing and WELL APPRECIATED.}}}}

Pretty bizarre, ain’t it?}}}}

Just cause you are a flaming LIAR Little Ricky Retardo Duh the head case from gwinnett…..

Doesn’t mean we all are.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Paul,

No, not Peter. He was a schmuck. He was so confused. He only wanted Christianity for the Jews - he didn’t get the message right. He would have attacked Iraq for no reason.

Now, Paul, he got the message but was a little intense.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 20, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 3:24 PM

{{{I never said Iraq wasn’t a threat, I said they weren’t an IMMEDIATE threat. Do you see the difference?}}}

What’s funny though, Bosch, is the people who actually read the intel reports at the time votes were being cast and a decision was being made to go to Iraq said they were an IMMEDIATE threat. But somehow, you sit here 5 years later on your ivory throne declaring that wasn’t the case. You’re an armchair QB, Bosch. And one who thinks he knows more about the situation than all the people who read the reports and cast the votes. Amazing, Bosch. And arrogant. And worthless.

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

{{{{Now that we know from the 11,000 pages of KKKlinton White House documents released this week that former First Lady was an ardent advocate for NAFTA; now that we know she held at least five meetings to strategize about how to win congressional approval of the deal; now that we know she was in the thick of the manuevering to block the efforts of labor, farm, environmental and human rights groups to get a better agreement. Now that we know all of this, how should we assess the claim that Ku Klux’s heart has always beaten to a fair-trade rhythm?}}}}

{{{{As she campaigns now, Klintoon says, “I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning.”}}}}

Lie, after lie, after pathological lie.

No wonder you pinkos like this pig so much.

She’s just as full of sh!! as you are.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Paul @ 3:52,

Well, obviously, because he’s Jesus, and all that, of course - forgiveness and all. Jesus was no hypocrit.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 20, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 3:24 PM

{{{I never said Iraq wasn’t a threat, I said they weren’t an IMMEDIATE threat. Do you see the difference?}}}

What’s funny though, Bosch, is the people who actually read the intel reports at the time votes were being cast and a decision was being made to go to Iraq said they were an IMMEDIATE threat. But somehow, you sit here 5 years later on your ivory throne declaring that wasn’t the case. You’re an armchair QB, Bosch. And one who thinks he knows more about the situation than all the people who read the reports and cast the votes. Amazing, Bosch. And arrogant. And worthless.

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Looks like it’s time for you pinkos to move the Iraqi goalposts again:

{{{{We congratulate the Iraqi Presidency Council on its agreement to withdraw its objection to the Provincial Powers Law after consultation with legislators and political blocs. The way is now cleared for publication of the law in the Official Gazette, whereupon it goes into effect.}}}}

{{{{The Provincial Powers Law represents an important step in what is likely to be an ongoing democratic effort to maintain a uniquely Iraqi balance between central government authority and the preservation of local empowerment. We welcome this important step forward and extend our warm congratulations to the Iraqi people and their elected representatives.}}}}

They just won’t cooperate with you surrender monkeys, will they?

By Paul

March 20, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Bosch 3:58

Paul was a little intense? A LITTLE intense?!!? Given to understatement today, are we?

Hey, remember the Jerusalem conference? Peter was shown how he misunderstood what he was supposed to do, then he said dang, I was wrong. Okay, let’s get back on track,here.

your 4:01

Fortunately, that’s just a story with no relevance to us today…

Getting rid of the ego. Open to new thoughts. Reexamine the present in light of new information.

Sounds like a good guy to me.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 20, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

USA Threatened Corruption Prosecutors to Stay Silent

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Got gold?

{{{{Gold Plunges, Leads Commodity Slump on Outlook for Fed, Dollar March 19 (Bloomberg) — Gold plunged the most since June 2006, leading a decline in commodity prices, on speculation the slump in the dollar will end as the Federal Reserve eases the pace of interest-rate reductions.}}}}

By AmVet

March 20, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Who would you trust for an accurate assessent of this idiotic occupation?

A valorous combat veteran or a posing chickenhawk who got his daddy to put him in the front of the line (ahead of dozens of men who were rightfully awaiting the slot) so he could hide out in Alabama and go stump for some unknown Republican hack?

Unless you’re a gutless never-served, never-will chest-pounding chickenhawk, the choice seems obvious.

Senator Chuck Hagel spent 13 months as a lowly grunt in the Mekong Delta in the deadliest period of the Vietnam War. He saw the horror of war from the bottom up — men sheared in half by explosives, half-decapitated by sniper fire, bleeding to death in the gloomy swelter of the jungle. Thirty years later, he came to believe he had been used.

His faith in the rightness of the Vietnam War was worn down by reading history and traveling abroad, but what changed his mind most, he said, was listening to tape recordings released in the late 1990’s of telephone conversations in which President Lyndon B. Johnson confided that he saw the war as pointless. That was in 1964, and Mr. Johnson said he feared impeachment if he tried to withdraw.

“The dishonesty of it was astounding — criminal, really,” Mr. Hagel said. “I came to the conclusion that they used those people, used our young people. So I am very careful, especially now. We’d better ask all the tough questions. This administration dismissed every tough question we asked. We were assured, ‘We know what we’re doing.’ That’s what they said in Vietnam.”

Mr. Hagel, a Nebraska Republican who has accused the administration of “arrogant self-delusion reminiscent of Vietnam,” opposed the troop increase and pressed for a phased withdrawal.

Criminal indeed, my fellow Nebraskan. Then AND now…

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

RB,

Oh no, no ivory tower here. My chair is pretty comfy though.

And WHO were those people reading those intel reports?

Who were those 75 Senators invited in a closed session to be briefed on this?

If this was SOOOOOOO immediate, why didn’t we have UN support, or gee, support from ANYONE ELSE except those jolly good Brits.

Maybe if Bush had allowed a debate for just a little longer, we’d have 4000 troops still alive, and about $500 billion in our pockets.

RB,

Myself and many others were asking those same exact questions five years ago, it fell on deaf ears. I can sit around and criticize all I damn well want to. It’s my right as a U.S. citizen.

By Bosch

March 20, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Peter was a good guy, but not Presidential material. I think of him as like Chewbacca to Han Solo.

Now, John of Patmos, I think he’d be a good candidate. He had some serious metaphors of “straighten up and do right” OR ELSE - going for him.

Gotta run out - be back hopefully later.

Pleasant evening if I don’t make it back.

By Paul

March 20, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

IThN 4:24

Oh… my…. gosh….

O’Reilly is a member of Hezbollah…..

Oh… my… gosh…

AmVet 4:24

And Nixon was elected with a secret plan to end the war. Even after he was elected, he never shared his secret.

Kinda the same today. Only “secret” is, what happens after you start a drawdown? The explanations get as murky as mud in the Mississippi after that. Only difference is, in Vietnam we left, lock, stock and barrel. No one is saying that with the Middle East, let alone Iraq.

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Nixon saved his career with his “Checkers” speech.

Ditto Obama and his “Crackers” speech.

Gads that’s good, but not as good as Obama was yesterday. His appearance during that speech is an instant icon searing his presidency into the heart of america.

By AmVet

March 20, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

There are two types of Americans.

Those that realized the President had already made up his mind about invading Iraq.

And those who pretended to believe that he was open to options.

There was no amount of evidence in the world that was going to dissuade Messiers Bush and Cheney from taking out Saddam. None.

9/11 was just an excuse. The perfect excuse to connect the dots that weren’t there, in the deluded, untested, unready neo-con mind devoid of reason and seeing the long term situation.

Like Hagel said, they dismissed every tough question or option that didn’t exactly agree with them. Tell me, chest-pounders, what courage did it take to deliberately cook the books to get what they wanted? And what a shame that you sheep fell for it hook, line and sinker.

And they can all go to hell for doing it. I said it then and I still am…

By The Dishonorable Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Barack Hussein Osama's Personal Spiritual Advisor

March 20, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

AMERICA VOTES TO DEFEAT ISLAMAFACISTS AND WIN THE WAR ON TERROR

Final results of the 2008 Presidental General Election:

John McCain, 53% Barack H. Obama, 47%

Exit polling shows that nearly 98% of those who voted for the winner, John McCain, said they were voting to reject the marxist defeatist and hedonistic social agendas with islamic ties that were being offered by Barack Hussein Obama and the Democrat Party.

By Inherit America

March 20, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

There’s a third type of American. ME. I want to capture Bin laden. In the Fall of 2002, the CIA had him surrounded. They called Bush for the army to advance and destroy Bin Laden. We had him. Bush was about to become the greatest commander in chief since Lincoln. Bush ordered his General Rumsfeld to attack. Rumsfeld refused.

Bush gets kudos for that order. It’s why we gave him a second term.

Rumsfeld deserves a court martial for his refusal to obey Bush’s order to destroy Osama Bin Laden.

By Paul

March 20, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

JRJW 5:02

Islamic ties? Obama?

If so, it that pejorative? Would you happen to know if he has any Buddhist ties? Jewish? Hindu? Native American shamans? Wiccans? Maybe he’s met the Dalai Lama?

McCain was just in Iraq. He met, I think, with Muslims? If he keeps in touch, will he also have Islamic ties?

By Paul

March 20, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Inherit America

Actually, the request went to General Tommy Franks, CENTCOM commander. He refused. CIA wanted 800 Rangers. Franks had already made arrangements (I believe the term in vogue is “outsourced”) the job to locals.

Link: Generals blew it, too

By @@

March 20, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Glenn:

In case you drop in:

Clayton schools chief finalist wants $2M for team

Get on the horn to somebody ‘cause our B.O.E. members are showing their incompetence yet again.

Read about the two consultants they’re reviewing. O-:MG!!!!!!

Ignore John Trotter - he’s an idiot too.

I’ve changed my mind. Get rid of the whole dang board.

By Paul

March 20, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

@@

Anything new on the Stratfor front? I’m behind on my updates -

By @@

March 20, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Paul:

It’s heating up in Serbia.

We’re sending military aide in the form of weapons to Kosovo.

Putin’s pished.

Obama’s videotape came out and he cited outdated events. Old news from an old has been. He said Palestine should be taken by force, not through negotiations.

The Sunnis in Iraq are having some differences, but all have the same goal - to defeat Al Qaeda.

I haven’t read all updates. I’m going there now.

By IN THE (Hussein)NEWS

March 20, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this

THE AJC BLOGGERS HONOR AGREEMENT

(That damn HBO and John Adams)

CUT AND PASTE BELOW

AND EMAIL TO AJC INTERACTIVITY MANAGER

I,……………….., ask that you would please confirm to any poster here if I am posting under more than name.

Futhermore, I state on my honor I WILL POST AS ONLY ONE NAME.

Any body else want to put their reputation where their keyboard is!

I hope we aren’t out of charcoal.

Happy Easter

Y’all have a good night.

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

DHIMMI THE NEWS: Why don’t you save us all of the trouble and just pledge that you will seek mental health care services for that wicked case of paranoid delusion you suffer from?

Weirdo.

By RW-(the original)

March 20, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

My little wiener dog/stalker sure was busy today. Did y’all forget to let him out?

IT(H)FS,

How about joining with those of us that have been calling for registration on this blog? It sure would be simpler since you libs never honor any pledge anyway. In fact, you violate the user agreement you pledged to uphold here every single day.

By AJC Management

March 20, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Gee, I sure hope Apackolips didn’t harm hisself or anything, it sure is starting to look bleak for Senator “My Preacherman is no worse than Pat Robertson.”

It’s awful quite around here without his name jacking and gay bashing.

Maybe one of you other klown liberals can take up his slack?

Losers.

By IN THE (Hussein)NEWS

March 20, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

Ok, Ricky, I would love to join you in calling for registration on this blog.

I do so now.

Will you contact the AJC and allow us to verify your claim until such time as we get it?

One little e-mail dude(s).

Put your reputation where your keyboard is.

Got charcoal, got pork chops, got honor?

I’ll get back to you in the morning.

One little email dude(s)

By RW-(the original)

March 20, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

IT(H)FS,

Aren’t you getting tired of looking like a fool? I only post under this name and I’ve repeated told the AJC that registration would fix all of the problems they have with this blog.

They certainly have my authority to verify that I am who and what I say. You’re a special kind of dumba$$ if you think the email address used has anything to do with accurately ID’ing posters though. My posts all come from the same IP address and the same MAC address.

By Walter L. Johnson

March 24, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

This cartoon is very good because it has multiple layers of meaning, depending on who sees it. Here is what I mean.

A shallow, die hard conservative might see this cartoon as an endorsement of John McCain as just like Bush, since he can even make the same blunders in speech.

A mainstream conservative would be reminded that John McCain has basically pledged to be G. W. Bush light with a friendly look instead of a puzzled look on his face. He even smiled when he made the worst factual mistake in a debate during his campaign.

A Blue Dog Democrat would see the cartoon as just the truth, since McCain’s best foreign policy experience was as a POW, where he at least got to know something of one culture. McCain said the streets of the Baghdad market were safe a long time ago while a platoon of soldiers, and helicopters overhead protected him and he wore a flak jacket on. Now he says Iraq is safer but the military couldn’t let him go for a photo opportunity to the same market, even with his head sticking above a tank hatch because they have zero control of the market and have ceded it to the rebel al-Sadr as a practical matter. Apparently air cover, a bunch of troops, and a flak jacket is no longer enough in that market to guarantee one photo.

A more liberal or progressive person might be reminded of how poorly President G. W. Bush has done foreign policy, even getting the name of the military alliance he was meeting with wrong, trying to do a neck massage on another head of state without permission, and numerous other breaches of protocol as it applies to heads of state. Bill Clinton made friends and allies throughout the world by including them in decision making, but President Bush has upset every other nation by his go it alone, we are solely right, attitude. Some Americans and any smart ones with dual citizenship’s changed to traveling internationally as Canadians, the world’s best peace keepers.

A strong liberal would likely say that McCain is already getting dementia, so he is a step ahead of Reagan.

A Canadian is not only reminded of our forces killing Canadian soldiers in friendly fire incidents, Americans torturing a Canadian citizen, even though Canada is our military ally and was kept in the dark. “al-Canadian” also says American can turn on anyone, including its closest ally, so think Canada first and only.

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