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By AJC Management
March 17, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this
I know, isn’t she a dimwit?
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{{{{Those Americans who have sneered at these fits and starts of democracy are experiencing their own domestic political frustrations. Democrats are demanding more political cohesion from Iraq and Pakistan than they’ve been able to manage themselves. As Congress presses for disengagement with no practicable plan, we learn—thanks to the candor of a departing foreign policy adviser—that the leading Democratic candidate has no plan whatsoever for his campaign’s central plank of withdrawal from Iraq.}}}}
Iraq is a festival of love and goodwill compared to the demokrat party.
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{{{{All Sen. Obama will say is that “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial.” And in that he may be correct. There are many preachers who would be happy to tell their congregations “God damn America.” But Barack Obama is not supposed to be the candidate of the America-damners: He’s not the Rev. Al Sharpton or the Rev. Jesse Jackson or the rest of the racial grievance-mongers. Obama is meant to be the man who transcends the divisions of race, the candidate who doesn’t damn America but “heals” it - if you believe, as many Democrats do, that America needs healing.}}}}
{{{{Yet since his early twenties he’s sat week after week, listening to the ravings of just another cookie-cutter race-huckster.}}}}
He must have liked what he heard, no?
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{{{{THE WRIGHT CONTROVERSY threatens to cement Obama’s reputation as a stealth radical, cooler in his temperament than overt radicals but equally committed to their goals. It is not surprising to hear Obama casually talk on the campaign trail about confiscating the profits of oil companies given that Wright’s “liberation theology,” which is Marxist in its premises, has shaped his worldview for over a generation.}}}}
By AJC Management
March 17, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this
Ease the price of energy, watch all of this subside:
{{{{Bankers say last week’s near-collapse of one of the most feared and influential US brokerage firms could not have come at a worse time for a sector battered by bad news and huge losses.}}}}
When you have environmental terrorists soaking up all of the people’s money just to pay for essential items like energy, it takes it’s toll on everything else. What a mindless nation we have become, consumed with our contrived guilts, punishing ourselves for conjured up “offenses,” when are we going to drop the junk science and drill?
{{{{{It is in the poorest countries, where people often spend more than half their income obtaining food, that a doubling or tripling of prices is fatal. And note, the supply of food does not need to halve in order to double prices. It only has to fall, consistently, a little behind demand.}}}}
{{{{Please don’t take my word for this. The United Nations’ World Food Programme and various other collectivist agencies are already becoming eloquent on the subject. In a statement to the European Parliament last week, the executive director of the WFP explained that their own cost of obtaining food for distribution to the world’s hungry had risen by 40 per cent since last June. They are not predicting a catastrophe. They are experiencing one.}}}}
{{{{And all this is happening for what? So that we, the rich, can feel some smug environmentalist satisfaction while pumping biofuel into our cars.}}}}
{{{{The triumph of “environmentalism” is symptomatic of the madness that has gripped our power elites, under the thrall of “political correctness” - for there is real insanity in creating an actual and predictable disaster, to avert an imaginary one.}}}}
The very definition of insanity, listening to the environmental terrorists over and over again.
Will we ever learn?
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
Obama answers Rezko questions in “uncommon detail.” Waiting for full disclosure from Hillary Clinton. Can she meet Obama’s “standard for candor”? ————-Yesterday, Obama sat down with the Chicago Tribune to discuss all the details of his relationship with Rezko. The Trib is the hometown paper of Obama and Rezko. The reporters and editors in that room actually know the Rezko story inside and out. So, Obama went into the lion’s den — and based on the report in the Tribune, it worked out well: U.S. Sen. Barack Obama waited 16 months to attempt the exorcism. But when he finally sat down with the Tribune editorial board Friday, Obama offered a lengthy and, to us, plausible explanation for the presence of now-indicted businessman Tony Rezko in his personal and political lives. The most remarkable facet of Obama’s 92-minute discussion was that, at the outset, he pledged to answer every question the three dozen Tribune journalists crammed into the room would put to him. And he did.———After the meeting, the Tribune stood by its endorsement of Obama noting: When we endorsed Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination Jan. 27, we said we had formed our opinions of him during 12 years of scrutiny. We concluded that the professional judgment and personal decency with which he has managed himself and his ambition distinguish him. Nothing Obama said in our editorial board room Friday diminishes that verdict.——— Can anyone imagine Hillary Clinton sitting down with a pack of reporters and editors to answer questions about her scandals — like her missing tax filings from 2001 to now, all Clinton’s earmarks since 2001, the missing schedules from the White House years and the funding for the Clinton library, to name but a few. Quite a list — sure seems like Hillary is hiding something
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
Obama expands lead with 14 more delegates from Iowa and CA
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He’s drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents. Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it’s on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
One Year Later, Market Where McCain Strolled ‘Freely’ Is Controlled By Sadr, Too Unsafe For Americans To Visit
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this
McCain’s Spiritual Guide: Who Is Rod Parsley?
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this
The very next day, John McCain appeared onstage in Texas with Pastor John Hagee, an influential activist in the Christian Zionist movement. Hagee’s comments about world affairs can make Farrakhan seem pedestrian at times: He eagerly awaits the Armageddon, considers the Catholic Church to be the Anti-Christ, and has said that Jews brought their own persecution upon themselves.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
Late Edition: McCain’s Taxpayer Funded Campaign Stop In Iraq
By ill bred
March 17, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
Obamamania was distilled from the melting pot. That’s as opposed to the bubbling cauldron of the triple witches, Hillary, Geraldine, and the third witch, who hasn’t revealed herself yet, but…..
I am so proud to know that we will be lead by a black president. America has grown up.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this
Democratic Sen. Barack Obama said Thursday that Sen. John McCain reversed his position on President Bush’s deep tax cuts in order to win the Republican presidential nomination, one of his sharpest criticisms yet of the Arizona senator he hopes to face this fall.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
When it comes to foreign policy, ‘Who is the real John McCain?’
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this
Late Sunday, the Federal Reserve made two announcements hoping to calm world financial markets and forestall a financial panic.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this
Although NEVER a fan of Hitlery and the B-stard, I find this one really over the top. It seems that the one in denial is Barak Obama. He really is not used to having real scrutiny of his ‘record’ during his relatively BRIEF national political career. If he actually expects anyone to believe that he did not know that Jeremiah Wright (Wrong) was a Hate-America-Firster, and that he was never in the congregation on Sundays when such hate was preached, then he must think that we are all crazy, stupid or both.
The fact is, when the press finally decided to put him under a magnifying glass, he is proving to be UNFIT to be the leader of the greatest nation on Earth!
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this
The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 329
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Obama’s Minister Committed “Treason” but When my Father Said the Same Thing He Was a Republican Hero When Senator Obama’s preacher thundered about racism and injustice Obama suffered smear-by-association. But when my late father — Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer — denounced America and even called for the violent overthrow of the US government, he was invited to lunch with presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush, Sr.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this
The Gathering Storm at Justice
AND
Something that has not been reported is that they have been physically beating Don. I don’t know the extent of his injuries or exactly how many times it has happened – but it has been multiple times.
By ill bred
March 17, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
Syria’s been awfully quiet lately, notice?
Where did Turkey redeploy their troops after cutting and running from the Kurds?
Pakistan is the logistical supply route 4 our army in Afghanistan. It’s the only way in. How many americans know that? four? Bush isn’t the ignorant one. WE are the collective ignorant. Our non-celebrity attention span is twenty seconds, (less if we see a pop-up goat porn ad). We deserve Iraq. We deserve this economy. We deserve pregnant teens with STDs. We deserve Bush’s god, (after all we voted for IT)
Just say I dont know.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 17, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
Statements By Pastor Who Endorsed McCain Drawing Scrutiny
“All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.”
“”military confrontation with Iran is foretold in the Bible as a necessary precondition for the Second Coming.”
“As millions of people anticipate the release of the latest Harry Potter book and film, we’re reminded once again of Satan’s ongoing attempt to deceive and destroy. The whole purpose of the Potter books is to desensitize readers and introduce them to the occult.”
By @@
March 17, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this
Whose denial ml? Barack’s? Hillary’s?
What a mess!
And now Pennsylvania is planning on having a closed primary where independents won’t be allowed to vote, forcing them to register dem or rep? Over 1 million voters (independents) are being denied their right to vote independently.
What a mess!
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
ITN - I guess the reason that you don’t publish a liberal idiots list is that EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT HOLDING PUBLIC OFFICE WOULD BE ON IT.
By Political Observer
March 17, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
@@ - What is ‘right’ about independents or cross-overs voting in a PARTY primary? I see no right to do this thing. It skews the results and it makes party registration and party loyalty meaningless. All primaries should be closed and all states should have party registration and all primaries should be closed. Skewing results is the opposite of democracy!!! Look at what happened in the Republican primaries!
By Copyleft
March 17, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
The problem Hillary’s running into is that, for the first time, a presidential candidate is running a squeaky-clean campaign…
And SHE’s running a typical one.
By ill bred
March 17, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
Hillary’s attack ads are impotent and silly. They’re too easily seen through. She needs a writer badly. I dont know who would be good enough, cant think of anyone, nobody comes to mind….maybe…..ANALCHORD?
By @@
March 17, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
(((What is ‘right’ about independents or cross-overs voting in a PARTY primary?)))
Guilty as charged PO. See how easy it is to be honest.
I’m an independent, not registered with either/or. That leaves me open to vote for the candidate, not the party.
It also leaves me open to be mischievious.
Politicians should fear the voter, not the other way around.
By ill bred
March 17, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
Wasnt’ there a bit about denial being a river in Egypt. wasn’t there a song.
Is this a clever variation on that? Good caricature of Bill’s complacency.
By Political Observer
March 17, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
I am always leary of someone who says I vote for the candidate and not for the party. It usually is said by someone who is quite ignorant of the political process. Once when voting here in Georgia in a primary (1994), I was filling out my blue card and a woman who was around 40 walked in and was asked by the poll workers whether she wanted a Republican or a Democrat ballot. She huffed and stated: “I vote for the man. I don’t vote for the party.” The astonished poll workers could say nothing - legal obligations. I spoke up and said: “M’am, you MUST choose one or the other, this is a PRIMARY election. We are choosing candidates to run in the general election in November.” She looked at me with a blank stare and replied: “What is the difference.” I stayed around for a while to see if this would be repeated. It was, six times in one half hour period. Party activists should choose the candidates, not ignorami and trouble makers.
By Political Observer
March 17, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
By the way @@ - In which state do you live? Georgia, South Carolina and Alabama do not have party registration, so one can vote in the primary he chooses. That really creates a lot of confusion and it does harm to the political process. That worked ok when Georgia was essentially a one party state, but that is no longer true.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
ill bred - How is Obama’s campaign any different from anyone else’s. He has obfuscated and avoided specifics. He presently is in denial about what his racist ‘spiritual mentor’ has been saying for twenty years. Please give all of us a break with this self-rightious twitter. Obama does not come to the party with clean hands!
By Superfluous
March 17, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
Obama is the defacto, default, destined and deduced next prez. All you’ve got is poison-pill scooby snacks for the barking dogs on the lunatic fringe in the wake of mouldering conservatism. Somebody sound taps, and get that flag at half mast.
By Georgia 74
March 17, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
Obama can’t win the election, face reality.
By Superfluous
March 17, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
He’s already won it.
By Paul
March 17, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Observer
Ignorami?
Ummm, “ignoramus” isn’t Latin.
So we don’t have to continue with words like “ignoramorum.”
Latin is a Dead Language Lying in the Dust It Killed the Romans Then and Now It’s Killing Us
But it’s still a great language.
By Political Observer
March 17, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Some economic news which will get NO attention on most newcasts and in most newspapers and just a little in some - the accounts deficit of the U.S. has narrowed to 4.9% of GDP - the lowest in the G8!! Oil prices are also falling percipitously this morning on the international futures markets.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Superfluous - You have not been observing very closely this weekend, or you may have been watching NBC or MSNBC instead of a real news channel. Obama has sealed his loss of the nomination. Forget all about the general election. He has been exposed as a radical and a liar.
By Political Observer
March 17, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
Paul - the word was used as a pun. It was meant as a feeble joke. I too hated Latin in school and see no reason to continue to torture students with it!
By RW-(the original)
March 17, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
14 of the first 19 comments and it looks like my wiener dog tired itself out.
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Unlike his presidential rival John McCain, an early and vocal and truly consistent critic of the Bush administration’s counterinsurgency strategy in Iraq, Obama, as we have seen, was opposed to doing anything about Iraq even when, like everyone else, he believed Saddam Hussein was a menace who was likely armed with weapons of mass destruction; became a supporter of the war after the fact and remained one even as things were going poorly; and morphed into an aggressive opponent again just as the prospects of an American victory began to brighten. If there is a consistency here, it would appear to be the consistency of one consistently divorced from the facts on the ground and, lately, almost hermetically sealed off from even the possibility of good news. In a politician admired for his supposed open-mindedness and his ready willingness to consider new evidence, this is, to say the least, striking
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Later!
By Georgia 74
March 17, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
McCain will tounce him in the general election, he has no chance. This is like Peter wrote it on the rock. And this is from a Democrat.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
Happy St. Patrick’s Day!
May your blessings outnumber The Shamrocks that grow. And may trouble avoid you Wherever you go.
May you live to be a hundred years, with one extra year to repent.
By Irish
March 17, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
May the road rise to meet you/May the wind be at your back/May the rain fall softly on your field/And until we meet again/May God hold you in the palm of his hand.
Also, don’t drink and drive and remember the best way to avoid a hangover is to avoid inebriation!
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
BUT, if you do find yourself tomorrow feeling the pain of drinking too much green beer, remember this:
B12 tablets, a big juicy cheeseburger, and plenty of water.
Works like the charm of a leprechaun!
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Hangover cure, continued:
Oh, and aspirin, of course
By Irish
March 17, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
Bosch - your remedy actually sounds delicious, except that if you drink all of that beer and eat all of that soda bread and cornbeef and cabbage and potatoes today, and tomorrow have that cheeseburger, you will NOT fit into any of your clothes and if you try your circulation will be cut of at the waist!!
By Irish
March 17, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Bosch - PLEASE NO ASPRIN!! Mixed with alcohol it can cause ulcers and burn the lining of the digestive track from the throat on down!! Drinking water works best!! I know this fact from bitter personal experience.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Irish,
But there’s a good chance you may throw up the corn beef and cabbage and soda bread. And don’t forget the Colcannon.
If not, that’s what sweatpants are for! You’re Irish, don’t you know this?
By Paul
March 17, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
PO 9:51
s’okay - I see the point. One of my pet peeves, I suppose. Was in a meeting once where the big boss used a word like “stadia” for more than one football stadium. When I came around to me I strung together an answer to a question with a bunch of -um, -a, and -us ending words with genditive, possessive, objective declensions.
They didn’t get it, either.
RW-(the original) 9:52
So Obama and McCain were both Bush/Iraq critics and identified problems. But McCain offered solutions to achieve objectives, while Obama’s consisted of leaving and writing off the entire operation?
I’m referring to their initial reactions. Their more recent pronouncements have been more nuanced.
Bosch
To you, too!
And no green beer.
And I’ll need another, oh, another 99 years on the end of that lifespan -
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Irish @ 10:21 -
Who cares if you burn the lining of your digestive tract - you had fun doing it!
That’s what Mylanta or Pepto Bismol is for.
Toughen up dude!
By Paul
March 17, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
Irish
Stick with corned beef, boiled potatoes, cabbage, carrots and onions. The veges are great with a sprinkling of vinegar (it’s either an acquired taste or you’re raised to think it tastes good).
Bosch
Water with the drinks. Not with, but between drinks drink a glass of water. Works great.
By Superfluous
March 17, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
For every voter McCain will get in November, Obama will get three. That’s a landslide, and that’s built into this new grassroots America which sprang up from under the manure you stepped in and spread around. You fertilize good my friend. Thank you.
Obama 08. We’ve got a country to change, and a world to convince.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
Paul,
Yeah, me too. :-)
No green beer? What’s wrong with you? Actually, I haven’t had any green beer this weekend, just lots of Irish Whiskey - and corn beef and cabbage, soda bread, and Colcannon (and a cheeseburger stuffed with B12 tablets).
By GOPher Think
March 17, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Hmmmm. Republicans join the Clinton camp in trying to surrepetitiously call as much attention as possible to Obama’s skin color (without appearing rascist, of course ;->) through the usual ‘guilt by association’ card ala Rev Wright. Be afraid, be very afraid of those ‘darkies’ eveyrone. They all hate white people except for when they want to rape and murder your women and children.
Of course, the object is to divert as much attention as is possible from the current economic meltdown that can only be lain at the doorstep of Republican ‘voodoo (supply-side) economics’. I, as many of you, feel into this trap during the Reagan years. I swallowed this old caveat ‘hook line and sinker’, but I am much wiser, now.
Supply-side sounds great on it’s surface. Relieve major corporations of onerous tax burdens and their resulting wealth and prosperity will surely ‘trickle down’ to the lower classes. Problem is that major corps then embraced the global economy and sent all those profits overseas to hire less expense labor and to avoid responsiblility for despoiling our environment by side-steping environmental regulations and labor laws.
And here we are in 2008. Republicans still embrace this failed ideology and continue to try to convince the gullible that this sow’s ear is truely a silk purse. I wonder if the general public today is as gullible as it was when I was drawn into the fold? If so, I look forward to their joining me among the ranks of the disillusioned in another few years.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Paul,
Water WITH drinks saves the trouble of going back to the faucet. Saving steps, so to speak - time management at parties is very important, you know. Gives you more time to sing Danny Boy.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
GOPher Think
“I wonder if the general public today is as gullible as it was when I was drawn into the fold”
You have to ask? There are still 30% or so that think GWB is doing a good job.
I’ve always said that trickle down economics stops trickling after the top tier managers.
By Paul
March 17, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
Green beer - just strikes me as, I dunno, unnatural! You know, the visual element is somewhat jarring. Guess I keep expecting it to taste like lime Koolaid.
Saves steps? Next you’re gonna tell me you can save even more steps by drinking in a loo!
By Dubya
March 17, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
And so our hero-card bearing McCain returns to Iraq again. Wonder if he will engage in another simple, safe, strolling shopping tour as before, w 1000s of troops again blocking off Bahgdaddy and surrounding him safely - as he touts the success of “the surge.” What kind of man pulls a stunt like that? Or have you cretins already forgotten that scam?
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
GOPher Think - Supply side economics do work, and quite well I might add. When you raise taxes on business, that is when they go overseas. The same goes for raising labor costs. That is what happened to the shoe industry in the United States. The labor unions priced themselves out of the market. What you are advocating, in effect, is the old, tired policy of protectionism and subsidies which stifle competition and destroy productivity. We tried that in 1930 with the Hawley-Smoot tariff and the depression became the GREAT Depression.
Also, Obama’s minions have done as much to inject race and fear into the campaign as Hillary. Please don’t blame the Republicans. They have just sat in the seats and watched this bout progress to 15 rounds. There will be a decision, and not a KO and no one will be happy with the decision.
Until recently Obama has been quite scrupulous about keeping race out and I would agree that the Clintons have run a nasty campaign vis-a-vis that issue. But they are nasty people. We could expect no less. However, the Obama camp screaming racism over every criticism is getting tiring. I know he would like to stick to the issues, but he is being exposed as an empty suit when real scrutiny is applied to him and his candidacy. His judgment is quite poor on many fronts.
I am afraid that it is you who is living under a ‘delusion.’ You think that socialism (the welfare/nanny state) works just beautifully and that appeasement is the best foreign policy. These things were proven false a long time ago. I’ll go with lower taxes and less regulation any day of the week - it’s called freedom and I like it!!!
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Paul,
Drinking in the loo would only save time if there were a bar set up or keg in the loo itself!
I know what you mean about green beer, never drank too much of that, you’re right - it does seem a little weird.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Mr. Headcase,
“When you raise taxes on business, that is when they go overseas”
But haven’t big corporations been getting all sorts of tax cuts lately? And still jobs are going overseas?
Yeah, the collapse of the shoe industry really created some problems, I see your point.
By getalife
March 17, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
“It’s no mystery,” said Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.). “You have a very unhappy electorate, which is no surprise, with oil at $108 a barrel, stocks down a few thousand points, a war in Iraq with no end in sight and a president who is still very, very unpopular. He’s just killed the Republican brand.”
Which gop hack will man up and call for w and cheney’s resignations?
When is enough is enough?
By Soothsayer
March 17, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
FREE LUNCH! FREE LUNCH! HURRY, DON’T MISS OUT! We’re “giving” you your ad valorem tax on your car! A “chicken” in every pot! And, here’s the best part, we’re going to STIMULATE the economy in the process! WHOEEEEE!
Now about the property tax on your home. Well … you can’t have everything, you know.
But look! we’re giving you your ad valorem tax on your car! That surely ought to be enough to get me elected? Right? Don’t listen to that other guy! I’m the one who’s giving you your ad valorem tax on your car! Elect me!
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Bosch - The fact is that corporations in the United States are still taxed at a higher rate than any in the developed world. Rates have gone down relatively, but not enough. The incentive is still to take jobs off shore. The irony is that the more you punish businesses for making profits and for practices you don’t like, the more likely it is that they will leave, and no one will have a job. However, we have not been losing jobs in this country but adding them for a very long time. Even with the present economic difficulties, we still have the lowest unemployment rate of any major economy and we are attracting (illegal) foreign workers by the bushel because we have had an excess of jobs. If this were not so, Americans would have filled those jobs, even at lower rates of pay. These are all simple facts of economic life.
By MomCat
March 17, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS March 14, 2008 1:50 PM So then…is your logic…. that it can be proven that Bush administration didn’t attempt to connect (either diredctly or indirectly) Saddam and 9/11 because we went to war for oil? UH?
ITHN: Regretfully I was unable to reply to your response Friday, due to much more pressing priorities. Gee! Wish I could live here! To answer your question, I’m not sure what was or was not attempted. The bottom line is: IMHO, we went to war for oil. Where are the WMDs? Don’t doubt the terrorist activity now in Iraq. Iraq is a ‘hotbed’ for terrorist activity now. I referred you to the article in American Conservative so you could broaden your horizan a bit. This is all I’m going to say about this little (BIG) issue. Believe what you wish! Thank you God, I have no children or grands to worry about!!!!!! However, unlike some I am truly concerned about the welfare of future generations. Off to meetings…MEOW!
By mm
March 17, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Headcase,
You really need to get an updated wingnut cuecard. Your rhetoric has gotten stale.
Oops, I forgot. The wingnuts have not come up with any new ideas.
I apologize. Please proceed with your total BS. At least you believe it.
By Conservative
March 17, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Actually GOPher think, the economy was collapsing as Clinton left office, you moron. He created a ton of jobs then at the end we saw everything go. Your ignorance for mentioning race on the issue that Obama went to a church where the claimed America caused AIDS and was as bad as Terroists should not matter huh? Freakin retard. If it was a white person goiong to a klan rally your would be flipping out.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
mm - excuse me. Please inform me of all of the ‘new’ ideas proposed by the true wing-nuts - you and your lib friends. Let me see, socialized medicine, raising corporate taxes and taxes on the rich, protective tariffs, increased regulation of the economy, mandated leave and vacation. Are these ‘new’ ideas? I believe that they have been tried and have been causing havoc in Europe and Canada for years. you see, socialism just does not work, no matter how you dress it up or what you call it. A pig is still a pig.
By Conservative
March 17, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
Actually GOPher think, the economy was collapsing as Clinton left office, you moron. He created a ton of jobs then at the end we saw everything go. Your ignorance for mentioning race on the issue that Obama went to a church where the claimed America caused AIDS and was as bad as Terroists should not matter huh? Freakin retard. If it was a white person goiong to a klan rally your would be flipping out.
By MomCat
March 17, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS March 17, 2008 8:13 AM McCain’s Spiritual Guide: Who Is Rod Parsley?
One more comment before I fade into oblivion for the next couple days. Pagsley is some idiot (pastor) in Ohio who supposedly advised his congregation they ‘didn’t need Social Security’ etc. etc., depend on the Lord for help. Nothing wrong with depending on God; however, there will always be those in need, and very few (IMHO) rely totally on retirement from XYZ company to survive. Anyway, that’s another story. I believe some member of his congregation sued because she was unaware no SS was being paid etc. etc. I may not have all the facts straight on this one, but bottom line he is an idiot. So is John Hagee from Texas. Have you listened to that little twirp. He’s one mean motor scooter! I’m outta here….
By Paul
March 17, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
getalife
I saw this over the weekend:
Link:Pro-Clinton Bloggers Boycott Daily Kos
and thought of how you were about a month ahead of the story. I notice the NYTimes didn’t say anything about DailyKos censoring Hillary poster, though.
I thought Moulitsas’s comments were pretty patronizing. He’s shown his true colors this time.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Hmmmm -
“He created a ton of jobs then at the end we saw everything go”
Go where? He created a ton of jobs and that caused the economy to start collapsing? Well, that just simply makes no sense.
Mr. Headcase,
So, what kind of jobs are being created left and right?
I’m just asking because you seem to know alot more about this than I do.
By Jesus
March 17, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By MomCat
March 17, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
By @@ March 17, 2008 8:42 AM And now Pennsylvania is planning on having a closed primary where independents won’t be allowed to vote, forcing them to register dem or rep? Over 1 million voters (independents) are being denied their right to vote independently. What a mess!
OK, one more comment and I’m truly outta here. I must agree; a mess does occur with crossover voting in the primaries. It is only fair that crossover voting be allowed in the general election. In the primaries, crossover voting is used to sway the desires of the people. I think that’s what has been done in the case of Obama/Clinton. A large of those Obama voters wouldn’t vote for him if someone threated to take their firstborn son!!! Crossover voting in the primaries stinks like a dead skunk. In the general election, vote for whom you please. Believe me, I’ve heard some of these crazies state they voted for someone they knew could be bested in the final outcome. Shouldn’t be allowed to happen. Have a happy week! MEOW!
By Superfluous
March 17, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
I’d like to see Momcat’s catnips.
By Political Observer
March 17, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Mom Cat - I said it first and could not agree with you more. You said it shorter and sweeter, though, so you should be commended. Cross over voting in primaries just stinks!!!!
By Not a kook
March 17, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Blasphemer (calling himself J_) - You are way too late. Give it up please. You have become tedious, redundant and superfluous.
By Apocalypse Hussein
March 17, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
Calling Pennsylvania: Ann Marie from Bucks County
No matter where you live, you can hep impact the race in Pennsylvania right now. We’re asking our grassroots supporters to call Pennsylvania Independents and non-affiliated voters to identify new supporters and let them know about the upcoming Pennsylvania registration deadline.
The Pennsylvania primary is technically a “closed” contest, in which only registered Democrats can participate. However, there is still time for Independents, Republicans, and non-affiliated voters to register as Democrats before the March 24th deadline.
Ann Marie from Bucks County, Pennsylvania is one of our many grassroots supporters who have been calling voters all across the country on behalf of Barack for months now. On Thursday she spoke on the National Call Team conference call to share her thoughts on how things are going on the ground, how your calls can make a difference, and her tips for talking to Pennsylvania Independents:
Link to the HQ blog to hear Ann Marie.
By Apocalypse Hussein
March 17, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
Obama Supporters: The Urgency of Now is upon us……..
It is more important than ever that you donate to this campaign. We are so close but not there yet! It’s going to take every single one of us to get Obama into the White House.
As you are aware, Obama has been under attack for the past few weeks. He is the frontrunner and leads both Hillary and John McCain in the polls so it’s no surprise that he’s been hit from all sides—-even the media lately.
Now more than ever Obama needs for us—-his supporters—to stand up strong and in unison behind him. He’s doing his part. He’s taking the heat dead on and he’s doing great. He’s the best candidate ever and we are so fortunate to have a candidate like him and to be a part of his campaign!
These attacks are not only meant to tear Obama down..they are meant to tear us down as well. Those attacking him want us to be discouraged. They want us to lose hope. They want us to stop volunteering online and off—donating and making calls. It’s a psychological game they are playing…but they will lose because we know better and know just what they are trying to do. We know that we MUST fight harder in the face of these attacks. We will make more calls, we will volunteer more of our time online and off and we will donate more than ever before! We must show them that WE ARE IN IT TO WIN IT and we are with Obama all the way!!
Will you help Obama today? Let’s all stand strong with Senator Obama. Please go to www. barackobama. com to DONATE. The amount you give is not important…….the fact that you give is. Give $5.00 or $500 dollars and anything in between or above. Give what YOU can afford but give something. If you have never given before…the time to give is now. If you have already given or are a regular giver—like I am—-then please consider giving again. I certainly will. In fact, that is the first thing I’m going to do right after posting this!
TOGETHER WE RAISED 55 MILLION Dollars for the Obama Campaign in the month of February. We raised 36 Million in the month of January. Both were record breaking amounts!! Let’s Make History again in March! WE CAN DO IT!! YES WE WILL!!!
GO NOW TO WWW. BARACKOBAMA. COM TO DONATE!!!
By getalife
March 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
Mike is right.
She will win.
Paul,
We have been banned at Daily Obama and censored at the Obama Post for supporting Clinton.
Just like dissent at the RW blogs, the radical kooks at kos are just like the radical kooks at the lgf.
Those two blogs, MSNBC and CNN have tossed all credibility for Obama, a sure loser like McGovern.
By Apocalypse Hussein
March 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
In the capsule version of the Barack Obama story, his mother is simply the white woman from Kansas. The phrase comes coupled alliteratively to its counterpart, the black father from Kenya. On the campaign trail, he has called her his “single mom.” But neither description begins to capture the unconventional life of Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, the parent who most shaped Mr. Obama.
Kansas was merely a way station in her childhood, wheeling westward in the slipstream of her furniture-salesman father. In Hawaii, she married an African student at age 18. Then she married an Indonesian, moved to Jakarta, became an anthropologist, wrote an 800-page dissertation on peasant blacksmithing in Java, worked for the Ford Foundation, championed women’s work and helped bring microcredit to the world’s poor.
She had high expectations for her children. In Indonesia, she would wake her son at 4 a.m. for correspondence courses in English before school; she brought home recordings of Mahalia Jackson, speeches by the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. And when Mr. Obama asked to stay in Hawaii for high school rather than return to Asia, she accepted living apart — a decision her daughter says was one of the hardest in Ms. Soetoro’s life.
“She felt that somehow, wandering through uncharted territory, we might stumble upon something that will, in an instant, seem to represent who we are at the core,” said Maya Soetoro-Ng, Mr. Obama’s half-sister. “That was very much her philosophy of life — to not be limited by fear or narrow definitions, to not build walls around ourselves and to do our best to find kinship and beauty in unexpected places.”
Ms. Soetoro, who died of ovarian cancer in 1995, was the parent who raised Mr. Obama, the Illinois senator running for the Democratic presidential nomination. He barely saw his father after the age of 2. Though it is impossible to pinpoint the imprint of a parent on the life of a grown child, people who knew Ms. Soetoro well say they see her influence unmistakably in Mr. Obama.
They were close, her friends and his half-sister say, though they spent much of their lives with oceans or continents between them. He would not be where he is today, he has said, had it not been for her. Yet he has also made some different choices — marrying into a tightly knit African-American family rooted in the South Side of Chicago, becoming a churchgoing Christian, publicly recounting his search for his identity as a black
By Apocalypse Hussein
March 17, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE DEFINE THE TERM “LOSER” TO GETALIFE, HE SEEMS TO BE DELUSIONAL……..
Obama leads Clinton 1,626 to 1,503 according to the latest NBC delegate count, which includes gains for the Illinois senator after John Edwards’ delegates were divvied up after conventions by Iowa’s 99 counties over the weekend. Within that number, NBC calculates that Obama leads the pledged delegates, 1,409 to 1,250, while Clinton holds a lead among the superdelegates, 253 to 217.
By Apocalypse Hussein
March 17, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Pelosi’s stance on delegates boosts Obama
WASHINGTON - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says it would be damaging to the Democratic party for its leaders to buck the will of national convention delegates picked in primaries and caucuses, a declaration that gives a boost to Sen. Barack Obama.
“If the votes of the superdelegates overturn what’s happened in the elections, it would be harmful to the Democratic party,” Pelosi said in an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”
The California Democrat did not mention either Obama or his rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, by name. But her remarks seemed to suggest she was prepared to cast her ballot at the convention in favor of the candidate who emerges from the primary season with the most pledged delegates.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
Apocalypse Hussein - You are both delusional. After the beating up that you folks are giving each other, neither one will be able to win. It will be 1980 all over again. Or maybe 1972. Either way, you lose. Obama is being exposed as a shallow radical who glibly denies that he understood the nature of a person who he has known for 25 years. He is inexperienced and it is beginning to show. Hillary Clinton is a mean, nasty woman who will do anything to win this nomination. She has the highest negatives anyone can remember for a person who has made it this far. She just makes people want to hate her. She is also shrill and grating.
Also, you libs are using recycled ideas that have been defeated repeatedly since the end of the New Deal. Harry Truman first proposed universal health care. We have seen what a disaster ‘rationed’ health care is in so many European countries. We should learn from the mistakes of others. The same goes for foreign policy. We hurt our credibility because of the way we deserted the South Vietnamese even after we specifically promised to help them if the North broke the treaty. A Democrat Congress did this awful, cowardly thing and they want to do it again. Agree or disagree with the Iraq War, we must follow through on our promises, or we lose all credibility. However, too many of you would prefer surrender and national humiliation as the price of a temporary political gain. Alls the more the pity and the shame of it.
By Apocalypse
March 17, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
Luckoheadcase,
Please do not address your nostalgic comments to me. I only respond to those who live in the present and future.
The Apocalypse does not deal with blasts from the past given by old has-been bloggers who refuse to accept that their time has past.
Thank you.
By Apocalypse
March 17, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
CHICAGO—Citing his judgment and ability to lead, admirals and generals from the United States Army, Navy and Air Force that together have served under the last nine Commanders-in-Chief today announced their endorsement of Senator Barack Obama for president.
In offering their endorsement, the generals and admirals recognized Obama’s judgment to oppose the war in Iraq before it began, his respect for the Constitution and rule of law, his leadership on behalf of America’s servicemen and women and his ability to conduct the diplomacy necessary to restore America’s standing in the world.
“Those of us who have served, worn the cloth of our nation, and gone into harm’s way know that to be successful we must have the strongest sense of trust in our Commander in Chief. We must be confident that he or she has listened to the best possible advice, that he or she has garnered the best possible information from all possible sources, that he or she has analyzed and weighed all the possible consequences and outcomes, and that he or she has made the decision to exert military force as a last possible resort,” said Admiral (Ret.) Robert “William” Williamson (USN). “Of this I am certain: Senator Obama will do all of those things and much more to ensure the safety and f reedom of our citizens, our allies, and coalition partners. He has all the great qualities and attributes required to carry out the most difficult duties of the Presidency.
“I spent a career involved in coalition warfare, and I am keenly aware of the importance of working with allies,” said Brigadier General (Ret.) James Smith (USAF). “Senator Obama brings a powerful approach to dealing with national security challenges by truly leveraging multinational relationships. He brings a new face of America to the rest of the world.”
“Senator Obama has a profound, even scholarly knowledge of our Constitution and he has the deepest respect for the rule of law. As a career naval officer, I trust his judgment, his temperament, and his ability to analyze complex international situations and relationships and to make military decisions that are in the best long term interests of the United States,” said Admiral (Ret.) Don Guter (USN). “It will take the powerful leadership of Senator Obama to forge the consensus we need to right our ship of state, restore our honorable place in the world, and secure the safety of
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
Apocalypse Hussein - again, you pull the same thing that liberals have been pulling for much too long - you obfuscate and accuse, but offer no facts in refutation of a genuine rebuttal to your tired arguments. It is you, not me, who lives in the past. Socialism is dead. Even the Chinese and Vietnamese have figured that out. Isolationism and pacifism are about as useful in foreign policy as a horse and buggy on a jet runway at Hartsfield-Jackson.
The time for free market solutions and innovations by entrepreneurs free of governmental interference is never past. The key here is freedom - freedom of opportunity and freedom to try - sometimes to succeed and sometimes to fail. You would have us live in a static world without any true progress, using tired ideas that have only resulted in lower standards of living and a culture of shared shortages and misery. Your time has gone. The great pity is that it really never got here. Certain ideas are just bad. Socialism in any form is one of them.
By mm
March 17, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
Headcase,
If you actually think the majority of Americans support the GOP agenda, you are sadly mistaken.
{{{national humiliation as the price of a temporary political gain.}}}
That defines the GOP and the Iraq war. We’ve been there 5 years and still haven’t defeated that bunch of misfits.
Our enemies hate us more. Our allies are angry at us.
Do you still want to talk about humiliation?
And for you and Duh, you still want to brag about Sarkozy in France?
The bubble is bursting for Bush’s rightwing buddy.
By AmVet
March 17, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
Thats it! I’m canceling my subscription to the AJC!
I am sick and tired of the scribbler constantly picking on the Clintons, the Democrats and the liberals!
When is he ever going to do the same to the Republicans?
OK, OK, enough of my “conservative” imitation.
Obama has a hate mongering nut job for a preacher (is that redundant?), Hillary is on the ropes and McCain pays lip service to the deportation-happy, abortion-banning faithful.
Things keep getting whackier that’s for sure.
But let’s not forget that even if the worst case scenario plays out (whatever that is for you!) given the above candidates, we are still going to be blissfully free of a White House occupied by one of the eight stooges who ran against McCain…
By RW-(the original)
March 17, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
For those of you, like let’s say (m)ental (m)idget up ^^^ there, beware of the information you get from various NBC channels.
{{{{But, on March 11, Cramer told an e-mailer not to sell the beleaguered investment bank’s stock on his show’s Web site:}}}}}{{{{{“Dear Jim: Should I be worried about Bear Stearns in terms of liquidity and get my money out of there? —Peter}}}}}
{{{{{Cramer says: “No! No! No! Bear Stearns is not in trouble. If anything, they’re more likely to be taken over. Don’t move your money from Bear.”}}}}}
By Harold Harris
March 17, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
When a negative becomes a positive:
When I was just a child, I became ill and my mother sent my brothers to seek out my father to take me to the hospital. My father sent word back to let me die. Not being too young not to understand his message, of course it remained with me so far all my life. After completing twenty-one years of military service, my father and I were again reunited and the relationship was cordial at best. About three years after I left the military, he became violently ill with cancer and we all knew that his death was close. During one of my visits to his bedside, he informed me that he did not want to die and that he was afraid. I informed him that this decision had been made by God and that it was now up to him to make peace with God and if God wished it so, his pending death would be averted. My Father told me that he was not sure how he was to talk to God and I told him that I would be happy to teach him. For the next few days, we talked a lot and we discussed what he needed to do and I told him to take his time and talk as he would to me. My Father soon died and I am happy to say that he was at peace at the time. My Mother asked me to say a few words at his funeral and I did: This man that lies here was the greatest teacher I have ever known. For all that I am it is due to his teaching. As a young Man, I watched in horror as he would beat my mother, throw away his paycheck, go in and out of jails, run women and it is suggested that he even molested one or more of my Sisters. I watched this and I learned well. His teaching has reached around the world and touched many people and I hope is still doing so. I have been married for more than forty years now, and I have never hit my wife in anger, my paycheck is always used by my household and until lately, my wife would give me an allowance from it. I don’t run around and I have two daughters and five grand daughters whom I love dearly and who I know are proud to call me father. You see, by watching my father, I learned that his way was not the way and his deeds did not have to be my deeds. I knew that I could bring about a change to my family by learning from him those things that I should never do. My only son and I are friends and he knows that even now in his thirties, all he has to do is call and I will try to move heaven and hell to get to him and help him. It is not difficult to move from my life learning to apply them to Senator Obama’s lessons from his
By Harold Harris
March 17, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
When a negative becomes a positive:
When I was just a child, I became ill and my mother sent my brothers to seek out my father to take me to the hospital. My faher sent word back to let me die. Not being too young not to understand his message, of course it remained with me so far all my life. After completing twenty-one years of military service, my father and I were again reunited and the relationship was cordial at best. About three years after I left the military, he became violently ill with cancer and we all knew that his death was close. During one of my visits to his bedside, he informed me that he did not want to die and that he was afraid. I informed him that this decision had been made by God and that it was now up to him to make peace with God and if God wished it so, his pending death would be averted. My Father told me that he was not sure how he was to talk to God and I told him that I would be happy to teach him. For the next few days, we talked a lot and we discussed what he needed to do and I told him to take his time and talk as he would to me. My Father soon died and I am happy to say that he was at peace at the time. My Mother asked me to say a few words at his funeral and I did: This man that lies here was the greatest teacher I have ever known. For all that I am it is due to his teaching. As a young Man, I watched in horror as he would beat my mother, throw away his paycheck, go in and out of jails, run women and it is suggested that he even molested one or more of my Sisters. I watched this and I learned well. His teaching has reached around the world and touched many people and I hope is still doing so. I have been married for more than forty years now, and I have never hit my wife in anger, my paycheck is always used by my household and until lately, my wife would give me an allowance from it. I don’t run around and I have two daughters and five grand daughters whom I love dearly and who I know are proud to call me father. You see, by watching my father, I learned that his way was not the way and his deeds did not have to be my deeds. I knew that I could bring about a change to my family by learning from him those things that I should never do. My only son and I are friends and he knows that even now in his thirties, all he has to do is call and I will try to move heaven and hell to get to him and help him. It is not difficult to move from my life learning to apply them to Senator Obama’s lessons from his
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Mr. Headcase,
“We have seen what a disaster ‘rationed’ health care is in so many European countries”
We are the ONLY civilized country in the world that doesn’t provide some kind of healthcare for it’s citizens - you’d think if it was such a disaster, the world would have fallen apart by now.
You speak of what you do not know.
Funny, my European friends, you know, Europeans who actually were born, raised and still live there think OUR system is screwed up.
For example, Germany has economic problems like everyone, that’s true, but the country is far from being the disaster you speak of. They don’t tout the third biggest economy for nothing.
Again, so, what kind of jobs are being created left and right here in the U.S.?
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
Sarkozy is wonderful. He is such an improvement over the last two idiots who were trying to run (oops I mean ruin) things in France. Yes he is a little low in the polls right now, but that is politics in any free country. The election will tell whether the GOP agenda is supported by the American people. I remember hearing that in 1980, 1984, 1988, 1994, 2000, 2002 and 2004. When we lose, I will believe you. Congress has an approval rating somewhere lower than the cable company’s. However, I do know that we have repeatedly rejected universal health care other so-called ‘reforms.’ I sincerely do not believe that the American people want to be saddled with the welfare state baggage that gives the people of Sweden a top marginal rate of 80% on their income taxes. You have some fantasy that you can fix everything as long as there is a government program for it. If that were true then poverty would have been whiped out long ago. Keep living in a fantasy world while the rest of us actually work.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Mr. Headcase,
Forgot to ask:
Why do you think Sarkozy is so wonderful?
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
Bosch - please cite one case in which a person in need in this country in the last 30 years has been denied treatment. We indeed do have health care for the poor and there are all kinds of programs for those who need healthcare but don’t qualify under Medicare or Medicaid. Healthcare is not rationed in this country. 20% of people who receive early colon cancer diagnosis in Britain die from the disease because they receive treatment too late under their ‘universal’ system. The hew and cry in this country would be deafening if that happened to one per cent. This argument in favor of the government controlling 1/7th of the economy is completely fallacious on its face. I for one do not want to buy into a system which is an utter failure. I have lived in Europe so I do speak from experience.
By AJC Management
March 17, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
{{{{By RW-(the original) March 17, 2008 2:02 PM For those of you, like let’s say (m)ental (m)idget up ^^^ there, beware of the information you get from various NBC channels.}}}}
RW: To whit, buried in the bottom of mmoron’s PMSNBC link:
{{{{Looked at nationally, near-complete official results showed parties of the left leading slightly, with 48.7 percent of the overall vote to 47.6 percent for the right.}}}}
Yeah, that was some “warning” the Frenchies sent to Sarkozy.
What did the pinkos call Klinton’s 49% in 1996, I want to think they called it a….landslide?
By Apocalypse
March 17, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Clinton has refused to put out her tax returns,
she will not release records of her time in the White House
and her unwillingness to give even the most basic information about the special funding she has requested as a United States senator
leaves many Americans wondering what it is she has to hide.
On earmarks, is she hiding information about donors she requested earmarks for? The role lobbyists and corporations played in her office as she requested more than a billion dollars for their pet projects? Favors she’s now embarrassed to be associated with?
Short of actually releasing the information that Senator Obama has already released, she should answer the following the questions to shed some light on the projects that she has requested:
Taxpayers For Common Sense has estimated that Senator Clinton has received $2.2 billion in earmarks over her Senate career. What earmarks has she requested during that time period and for what programs?
Since Clinton now says she plans to release her requests for FY 09, why isn’t she releasing them for previous years?
We know that Clinton has requested at least two earmarks linked to top fundraisers and donors – GM lobbyist Steve Ricchetti and billionaire Alan Gerry. Will her campaign release the other earmark requests she has made that are linked to fundraisers, campaign donors, or donors to the Clinton Library?
Has Senator Clinton proposed any earmarks that Bill Clinton has personally advocated for?
Last year, Senator Clinton voted against an amendment sponsored by Senator Durbin and supported by Senator Obama to require public disclosure of earmark requests. If that amendment were to be offered again, would she support it?
CLINTON, WHO HAS REQUESTED MORE EARMARKS THAN HER PRESIDENTIAL RIVALS, GAVE MILLIONS IN EARMARKS TO A LOBBYIST AND “HILLRAISER” AS WELL AS DONORS TO HER CAMPAIGN
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
Sarkozy is wonderful because he has had the courage to stand up to the militant and destructive left-wing unions. He is increasing the hours in a day and a year that French people can work. They were strictly limited to 35 hours a week and were not allowed to earn overtime. He is also lowering taxes for individuals and companies. He is standing up not just for France, but for Western values and he is cooperating with the United States and other NATO allies and not treating us as adversaries, as has been so in the past. I have lived in France several times and this is the first time I see a glimmer of hope for economic freedom to truly return to that country since that ‘cochon’ Mitterrand was elected in 1981.
By Sharon
March 17, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
There are a few comments I can make regarding the Obama issue, the first being African Americans are not responsible for the war, the economy, the mortgage crisis and any other drama that this country is now facing. The words of Rev. Wright have also not caused any of this mess that we are in, so lets put the blame where it belongs, move forward and stop trying to hurt Obama’s presidental campaign with the name calling and divisiveness that has torn this country apart for over 300 yrs. It is not pretty and makes us look bad as a country. No matter how intelligent your comments may be the fact remains this country is in trouble, the recession is here right now and it is not Rev. Wrights fault.
Sharon
By Apocalypse
March 17, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
Clinton Co-Sponsored 66 Earmarks The Defense Bill And 220 Earmarks In 6 Other Spending Bills. In the defense bill, for example, The Seattle Times found that Clinton sponsored 66 earmarks totaling $150 million. Obama sponsored six earmarks totaling $34 million; all were for nonprofit organizations. McCain didn’t ask for any earmarks this year. In contrast to McCain, Clinton boasts about scores of earmarks she delivers each year throughout her home state of New York. In the defense-bill earmarks Clinton sponsored, she mostly handed out business to defense contractors with operations in New York. The Seattle Times counted more than 220 earmarks for Clinton in six other recent spending bills. Those who get earmarks usually donate to election campaigns. Clinton’s campaign has received $60,000 from those to whom she gave earmarks — a pittance of the $116 million she’s raised. She received a like amount from those same donors for her Senate race. [Seattle Times, 2/8/08 < http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004171198_earmarks08m.html > ]
Clinton Secured $2.2 Billion In Earmarks From 2002-2006. “Taxpayers for Common Sense, a watchdog group, has calculated that Clinton landed 360 earmarks worth $2.2 billion from 2002 to 2006 in various spending bills. The beneficiaries have ranged from defense giant Northrop Grumman Corp. to New York-based Telephonics, which won $5 million for helicopter equipment.” [AP, 6/14/07]
Clinton Secured The Second Most Earmarks Of Any Senator For The Defense Authorization Bill. Clinton has secured more earmarks in the fiscal 2008 defense authorization bill than any other Democrat except for panel Chairman Sen. Carl Levin. By contrast, Sen. Barack Obama has only one request in the defense bill. Clinton received 26 earmarks worth about $148.4 million total, most of which were also sought by Sen. Charles Schumer…Clinton’s beneficiaries include defense giant Northrop Grumman, which secured $6 million for the AN/SPQ-9B radar; New York-based Telephonics, which won $5 million for a standardized aircraft wireless intercom system for the National Guard Black Hawk helicopter fleet; Plug Power Inc., another New York state company, which got $3 million for fuel cell power technology; and Alliant Tech Systems (ATK), which won $3.5 million for the X-51 B robust scramjet research. [The Hill, 6/13/07]
Clinton De
By mm
March 17, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
Geez, you wingnuts are as pathetic as the Bush administration. No matter how much evidence is thrown in your face that you are lying scum, you continue to lie and deny.
And according to you, all media is controlled by the evil liberals, except Fox News of course.
Life will be a living hell for you in November when the Dems take over the white house and increase their margins in congress.
Republicans can’t even be trusted with their own money
By Political Observer
March 17, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
Sharon last I looked, Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell are both African-American, so they have quite a bit to do with our foreign policy over the last seven years. Also, Ralph Bunch was an African-American. Many African-Americans have done very much to contribute politically and culturally over the last 400 years of our history, so if they can take some of the credit - which they most certainly deserve - they can also take some of the blame, when it is proper.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 17, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
mm - again, no evidence, just defamation. It’s amazing. You need a hobby. By the way, the media by and large ARE a bunch of left-wingers, but right now they are split between Obama and Clinton!
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Mr. Headcase,
“please cite one case in which a person in need in this country in the last 30 years has been denied treatment. We indeed do have health care for the poor and there are all kinds of programs for those who need healthcare but don’t qualify under Medicare or Medicaid”
That’s not the point and that’s not what I asked you.
I know that anyone can walk into a hospital emergency room and get treated. I know that anyone can go to the doctor and pay for treatment if they don’t have insurance.
It’s the way the COSTS are handled that’s the problem.
You are changing the subject.
“20% of people who receive early colon cancer diagnosis in Britain die from the disease because they receive treatment too late under their ‘universal’ system”
So, does that mean that 80% survive? How are these stats compared to those in the U.S.?
You are comparing apples and oranges and changing the subject.
You stated earlier that universal healthcare is a disaster. You’d think that if it were so disastrous, then all the European countries and other civilized nations in the world who provide basic health care for their citizens would have gone belly up by now. Guess what? They haven’t!
Why is it that Starbucks pays more for health benefits for their employees than they do for coffee?
Behind the U.S., Japan and Germany have the biggest economies in the world, yet they provide basic healthcare services for their citizens. You consider those countries to be failures? My, you have a screwed up view of what constitutes a failure.
Again, so what KIND of jobs are being created left and right here in the U.S.? Can you answer that from your earlier comment or was that just more of your hyperbole?
By Apocalypse
March 17, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Another one for Obama by kos Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:41:20 AM PDT
Late last week I blogged this AP article which claimed Clinton had picked up the support of three new super delegates. It turns out the AP was wrong, as bean counter extraordinaire Chuck Todd notes:
By our count, the Clinton campaign hasn’t publicly announced the support of a new superdelegate since just after February 5. Indeed, since Super Tuesday, Obama has gained 47 new superdelegates, while Clinton has lost seven (including Eliot Spitzer). Does Clinton have a bigger problem on the superdelegate front than folks realize?
Actually, make that 48 supers for Obama.
Todd says Clinton has lost seven and Obama gained 47 (48 after today’s addition) since Feb. 5. I don’t know when those additions and subtractions occurred in relation to March 4, so I can’t add them to my little chart above.
But all together, it proves once again that real momentum — that gauged by actual numbers and results — and not what the media tells us, is still firmly in Obama direction.Another Superdelegate for Obama
17 Mar 2008 09:18 am
Margie Gavin Woods, from Illinois.
That makes 48 for Obama since Feb 5, and zero for Clinton.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
“They were strictly limited to 35 hours a week and were not allowed to earn overtime”
So Sarkozy is turning the French into the power horse American work machines, no wonder he’s so unpopular.
The French do like their leisure time.
Our Puritan work ethic is what makes us all sick and stressed out all the time.
I can work 30 hours a week, or 60 hours a week and not see one bit of difference in my pay. I don’t get paid overtime, and I don’t know too many companies here in the U.S. that allow that.
By AJC Management
March 17, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
Ahhh, yes, the lovely demokrat party with all of it’s eye gouging and hair pulling on full display and nary a Republican in sight:
{{{{That’s why she has earned my enmity and that of so many others. That’s why she is bleeding super delegates. That’s why she’s even bleeding her own caucus delegates (remember, she lost a delegate in Iowa on Saturday). That’s why Keith Olbermann finally broke his neutrality. That’s why Nancy Pelosi essentially cast her lot with Obama. That’s why Democrats outside of the Beltway are hoping for the unifying Obama at the top of the ticket, and not a Clinton so divisive, she is actually working to split her own party.}}}}
{{{{Meanwhile, Clinton and her shrinking band of paranoid holdouts wail and scream about all those evil people who have “turned” on Clinton and are no longer “honest power brokers” or “respectable voices” or whatnot, wearing blinders to reality, talking about silly little “strikes” when in reality, Clinton is planning a far more drastic, destructive and dehabilitating civil war.}}}}
{{{{People like me have two choices — look the other way while Clinton attempts to ignite her civil war, or fight back now, before we cross that dangerous line. Honestly, it wasn’t a difficult choice. And it’s clear, looking at where the super delegates, most bloggers, and people like Olbermann are lining up, that the mainstream of the progressive movement is making the same choice.}}}}
{{{{And the more super delegates see what is happening, and what Clinton has in store, the more imperative it is that they line up behind Obama and put an end to it before it’s too late.-Markos Moulitsas, DailyKooks}}}}
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Okay, let me back up. I don’t know too many companies here in the U.S. that encourages overtime pay. It costs them too much.
By Paul
March 17, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
Bosch
I’ve lost track of the number of people I’ve known who were laid off/fired/downsized, then hired back as “consultants” - no benefits, responsible for own health care, double dose of Social Security tax, etc.
Ever wonder why so many big companies have 32-hour workers? Because they’re not full time and get no benes.
Few years ago, went to Disney World. Went to a gift shop that looked out over Cinderella’s castle. I made a comment about what a nice atmosphere in which to work. The middle-aged woman working the counter launched - Eisner had just taken them all from 40-hour a week full-time workers to 32-hour a week part timers. It wasn’t a happy time in the Kingdom.
By Superfluous
March 17, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
Obama has a vast grassroots support of Americans not ever seen before. This is a new phenomena and marks the era of the people, for the people and by the people, and the GOP conservatism shall perish from the earth in four score and seven give or take a leap year subtract the international date line and the fact that we are traveling at roughly half the speed of light and you get eight months, or Nov 08.
Obama 08, he’s not sending anyone back in time, unless they try something stupid in space.
By Ex Obama supporter
March 17, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Sharon, flag lapel- No big deal, pledge of allegiance- nothing there, patriotism- non issue.
Belonging to a church that hates whites- probably will cost Obama the election. Voters will not be able to overlook that one. And they shouldn’t.
By Glenn
March 17, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
Bosch, a friend on a medical faculty tells me that he and some of his colleagues have been thinking a lot lately about the destructiveness of the increasing over-emphasis in the U.S. on productivity in just about all matters. I have no guess where their work will lead, but know that they are looking at social expectations of “productivity” that extend even to very young children.
By Superfluous
March 17, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
Productivity? If this were a manure factory, Glenn, you’d get employee of the year.
Obama 08.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Which is increasingly the case in many companies. The only company that I know that does so is AT&T which hires people in as “independent contractors” or in other words, people who do the work and they don’t have to pay them benefits.
I have a friend who is in really bad health and was recently fired from his job - because his employer said - it was required by law so he could receive his long term disability.
That just sounds fishy to me. He receives 2/3rds of his pay, but no health insurance and he’s too young for Medicare. Of course he could probably qualify to be declared disabled, but it seems like a case where the company is pushing the healthcare of a long time employee off on the government.
I don’t know, maybe that’s common too.
Glenn,
I hope more medical professionals look into that - the American work ethic is killing us all! :-)
We’re all tired and grumpy!
I see alot of parents who push their kids all the time to excel or else. Their kids are “perfect” and nothing else will do.
It’s the same thing - and you see alot of seriously stressed out kids. The Bosch kids are taught to be responsible, don’t blame others when you screw up, but if you mess up, it’s okay. As long as you do your best (and I know if they do or not), it’s okay with me.
By Paul
March 17, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
Bosch
Pushing health care off on the government? Read: companies pushing health care off on the taxpayers. So there’s another method in which companies reduce their costs, transfer them to the American people, then they meet their quarterly earnings target. Sigh…
Good concept with the little Boschies that’ll pay dividends for years. One of my kids called once, said “hey Dad, remember how you always told me to ask ‘cause you’ve been through a lot and know how to screw up really good? I’m thinking about doing such and such, did you ever try that? (I said yes). He asked, did you screw it up? (‘nuther yes, followed by an explanation). He just said “thanks” and hung up.
Parents gotta admit to being human, too.
By AmVet
March 17, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
Bosch & Glenn,
Regarding your assertion that the American work ethic is no longer synonomous with the American Dream.
I started my own company about five years ago and work about one fourth of the time I used to while earning the same amount of income.
Tired and grumpy? Not this guy!
One funny story though. About the same time, I joined a networking group to help develop my business.
It starts at 7AM (yes AM!) one day per week. When I first started going I was amazed at how many cars were already on the road at 6:30!
I thought man, this country has trained these worker bees really well! They get up earlier, endure gridlock every morning, work later than ever and then suffer through another grid lock every evening!
Apparently for most, their life is like the line in a Jackson Browne song “I’m going to be a happy idiot and struggle for the legal tender”.
No wonder even though we have the highest standard of living in the world (supposedly), we also have the highest suicide rate and an ever worsening plethora of social ills…
By GMAN
March 17, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
luckovichisaheadcase, you are crazy and stupid!
By Glenn
March 17, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
Bosch, your way seems just plain sensible and humane compared to the measurement madness of parents and other child-rearers beholden to exogenous or “heteronymous” (opposite of autonymous) measures.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Amen. So do you know of a law that requires termination from a job before you can qualify for long term disability? I swear that’s what the human resource manager of my friend’s company told him.
We tell the little Boschies all the time their parents are just not perfect - but we are still in charge and will, at least for a few more years, know more than them - although the oldest Boschie is far ahead of me on the math scale - so maybe the tide is turning.
We have some friends who are “perfect” in every way - their kids are perfect, their lives are perfect, their whole entire existence is perfect (I know you know that I’m exagerrating, but you get the picture.) My middle Boschie told me the day as we were driving down the road that he sure was glad that he had us as parents, instead of those parents, because he just couldn’t be that perfect all the time. It made me smile.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
And I often wonder about what defines “success.” According to many it’s money and a big house, fancy cars, jewelry on the wife’s fingers, etc. But I know alot of people with those things who are really just plain depressing.
And if you don’t have all that then you have “class envy” or are just a plain loser. I don’t get that.
They don’t drink Irish whiskey and sing Danny Boy like me! People just need to relax and learn how to live.
By Paul
March 17, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
Bosch
The disability thing sounds flaky. Have your friend contact the state Labor and Employment Department.
Also tell him to reconstruct the history and start documenting everything. I’d also advise a one-visit free consult with a good labor attorney.
Speaking of which, you never did follow up a month or so ago when I mentioned I’d read in Life magazine that a reporter had tracked down Jimmy Hoffa - alive.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
Paul,
That’s what I told him (the lawyer thing).
Well, I don’t remember you telling me that about Hoffa. Alive, huh? We’re he and Elvis hanging out together all this time?
By Paul
March 17, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
Nope. FBI had Hoffa in the Witness Protection Program. The reporter tracked him to New York City. Found him working in a hospital. He was in the maternity ward trying to organize labor.
Thanks for asking. I love that story.
By Steve
March 17, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
McCain in Iraq again proves that he is but a loathsome, lying, miserable little spiritually vacant neoconservative goon with the soul of a cockroach. Words and actions as always. Holding up the hero-card. Puke.
By Paul
March 17, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Steve
I take it you’re not on board with Obama’s unity thing?
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Paul,
OHHHHH, RDRR!!!! How funny. I guess I deserve that one, huh?
Organizing labor! [In my best Irish accent] Oh, Paul, that was a tricky one, that was!
By AmVet
March 17, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
That the movie Wall Street was hugely popular in it’s day is no coincidence.
Greed is good, became more than a stupid line in a flick.
The 80’s saw an explosion of “screw everybody, as long as I get mine” young Republican Reaganistas.
The pitiful “me generation” railed against the lazy poor and welfare and turned a very self-serving and convenient blind eye to a much more costly version of it - corporate welfare.
The mantra seemed to be Self (always) before sacrifice. Or even the nation.
So I wonder how many of those “heavy hitters” are ready to jump off of a high rise because they saw their Bear Stearns fortune/nest-egg evaporate in a matter of days…
By Paul
March 17, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Bosch
It’s better in the hearing after a few tumblers of Irish Whiskey.
By Bosch
March 17, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
You know the Wall Street way to go is the ol’ head in the oven.
Well, I’m off to another soccer game, so I’ll leave with this:
For each petal on the shamrock This brings a wish your way Good health, good luck, and happiness For today and every day.
Good night all and Happy St. Patrick’s Day!
And remember, if you wake up with a “too much green beer” headache - remember the Bosch hangover remedy.
[In my best Irish accent] works like a charm!
By Paul
March 17, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this
AmVet
“The 80’s saw an explosion of “screw everybody, as long as I get mine” young Republican Reaganistas.”
And now they’ve been replaced/converted with the NYC/Wall Street crowd of Democratic liberals? The ones beholden to Hillary over her treating their multi-hundred million dollar earnings as 15 percent capital gains until the heat got a bit much?
Not trying to go partisan, here. I’ve long thought that when it comes to personal wealth accumulation in the Wall Street world that professed ideology is no guide to personal conduct.
By @@
March 17, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this
Political Observer @ 8:49:
(((I see no right to do this thing. It skews the results and it makes party registration and party loyalty meaningless.)))
I live in Georgia and have no party loyalty.
Reagan — Clinton — McCain.
Why must everyone assume the worst about me? Did any of you ever stop to think that I may be choosing to put the best Democrat candidate up against the Republican. That way we get the best of both worlds.
Unfortunately this year, there were no good Democrat candidates so it was pure mischief that provoked me to vote Democrat in the primary.
With the Democrats always screaming VOTER FRAUD, I thought…
Let’s give ‘em somethin’ to talk about.
By AmVet
March 17, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
Paul,
The limousine liberals were no less craven in that regard.
As you know, I have grown to despise this abortion (on demand) of a Republican Party of the past thirty years. Reagan, Gingrich and Bush are only the most notorious poster boys in a VERY long line in the rogues gallery. And though it seems implausible, they continue to sink to new depths every year. And their lack of leadership, ineptitude, arrogance and pig headedness is both staggering and a terrible thing for this country.
So…my job here is to hammer these fake conservative and the worst of these Republicans. And others here apparently have the job of doing the same with the Democrats.
That most (with a very few exceptions like yourself!) can’t hold a candle to me in this regard is not my fault.
And as a former Democrat who will for the third time in a row vote AGAINST their nominee makes it all the more enjoyable.
By AJC Management
March 17, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
Yes, so much faith in the ability of America, firm unwavering belief in our in our tenacity, you can almost see her heart swell with pride for our strength:
{{{{Democrat Hillary Clinton charged on Monday the Iraq war may cost Americans $1 trillion and add strain to the sagging U.S. economy as she made her case for a prompt U.S. troop pullout from a war “we cannot win.”}}}}
Oh, I’m sorry, that’s not her heart that is all swollen up wide, it’s her as-s that is, my bad.
By AJC Management
March 17, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
{{{{For a party that loves to hate the KKKlintons, Republican voters have cast an awful lot of ballots lately for Ku Klux Rodham: About 100,000 GOP loyalists voted for her in Ohio, 119,000 in Texas, and about 38,000 in Mississippi, exit polls show.}}}}
And if you tack on the number of wingnuts who voted for Obama, the hate the Klintons no matter what crowd, there were more Republicans at the polls than there were pinkos.
By Apocalypse
March 17, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
Obama plans major race speech tomorrow
Barack Obama will give a major speech on “the larger issue of race in this campaign,” he told reporters in Monaca, PA just now.
He was pressed there, as he has been at recent appearances, on statements by his former pastor, Jeremiah Wright.
“I am going to be talking about not just Reverend Wright, but the larger issue of race in this campaign,” he said.
He added that he would “talk about how some of these issues are perceived from within the black church issue for example,” he said.
He also briefly defended Wright from the image that has come through in a handful of repeatedly televised clips from recent Wright sermons.
“The caricature that’s being painted of him is not accurate,” he said.
The speech could offer Obama an opportunity to move past the controversy over his pastor, and to turn the conversation to a topic he’d rather focus on: his Christian faith. But the speech also guarantees that the Wright story will continue to dominate political headlines.
Mitt Romney’s attempt directly to address his Mormonism last year never decisively put the issue to rest for some voters.
Obama’s schedule puts him in Philadelphia tomorrow.
By Paul
March 17, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this
AmVet
It’s a pleasure to discuss with someone else who takes a perverse pleasure in life!
I do, think, though, that the Republican Rogues Gallery you cite is diminishing in influence as time goes by.
I read a column this weekend, can’t put my fingers on it just now, regarding McCain. Went before some very conservative group, the Amway founder was one of the founders - and it noted he didn’t tell them what he wanted to hear. They wanted to hear about his personal religious views and he said “no.” Then I saw clips of Mccain being interviewed by Sean Hannity - I watched for a few minutes - and McCain disagreed with him. Said no to drilling in Anwar, didn’t budge on global warming. He was polite, well knew of Hannity’s listening base - but said what he thought.
So maybe we’ll have an election of two people who’ll be more likely to say what’s on their minds. (read a great short story years ago - about a guy who could hear what people were thinking. He was listening to the Pres give the State of the Union, he went through the normal stuff, then the guy heard the Pres’s mind think “My fellow Americans, if you knew what I really wanted to say, you’d sh!t!”).
By Apocalypse
March 17, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
No re-vote in Florida!!!!
WASHINGTON (CNN) — After weeks of negotiations, the Florida Democratic Party said Monday that it will not hold a second primary in the state.
State party leaders have been seeking a way to have Florida’s delegation seated at the Democratic National Convention.
In an e-mail sent to Florida Democrats late Monday afternoon, state party Chairwoman Karen Thurman said, “We researched every potential alternative process — from caucuses to county conventions to mail-in elections — but no plan could come anywhere close to being viable in Florida.”
By Apocalypse
March 17, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this
CNN) — A majority of Democrats would like to see Barack Obama rather than Hillary Clinton win their party’s presidential nomination, according to a national poll out Monday.
A new poll out Monday shows Democrats prefer Sen. Obama over Sen. Clinton to win the nomination.
1 of 2 Fifty-two percent of registered Democrats questioned in a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey say the senator from Illinois is their choice for president, with 45 percent supporting Clinton.
The poll also suggests Democrats are more enthusiastic about an Obama victory (45 percent) than for a victory by the senator from New York (38 percent).
The two remaining major candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination are locked in a fierce battle for their party’s presidential nomination, with Obama holding a slight lead both in delegates and the overall popular vote in the primaries and caucuses to date.
“The same patterns that we have been seeing in recent exit polls are holding true for Democrats nationwide as well. Obama’s biggest support comes from men, younger voters and independents who lean Democratic,” CNN polling director Keating Holland said. “Clinton does best among women, older voters and whites. One interesting difference, unlike the exit polls in many states, there is no difference in the national poll between college-educated Democrats and those who never attended college.”
The nomination could hinge on two major matters: superdelegates and the possibility of do-over primaries for Florida and Michigan.
The two states broke national Democratic Party rules by moving up the dates of their primaries to January. None of the major Democratic candidates campaigned in the two states, and Obama’s name wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan.
By Likkkoduh (MkkkKKKain) Loves Dikkk Cheney
March 17, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this
With or without the Cheney.
Yum!
By AmVet
March 17, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this
Yeah, paul it’s kind of funny how thing shave worked out this election so far.
The lunatic fringe must be completely beside themselves.
Sure, the faithful here soldier on “faithfully” but their surge is comprised of little more than yellow ribbons and Clinton-bashing.
And their fight is dispirited to say the least.
But I still contend that these events bode well for the GOP and the country.
Bush/Cheney drove the final nails in the neo-con coffin and now with baby steps like McCain’s pending nomination, perhaps they can return to some sense of normalcy and sanity.
Time will tell…
By Apocalypse
March 17, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
You are apparently a Clinton supporter, hence your lack of recognizing the same tactics used against Obama.
I thought you were undecided.
By RW-(the original)
March 17, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this
Paul & Bosch,
I’m only up to your conversation at around 5:00 so this may already be answered, but the termination to qualify for long term disability sounds quite legit. I sure wouldn’t recommend your friend pay an attorney for a consultation. If he/she can get a free one fine.
Bosch,
I find it interesting that you think a company is pushing someone’s health care off on the government when shortly before that comment you said we had no government health care and seemed as if you think we need it.
By @@
March 17, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this
My best advice for St. Patty’s Day.
All things in moderation.
Beannachtai na Feile Padraig ort!
By Apocalypse
March 17, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this
Happy ST. PAT’s day @@!!!!!
By Glenn
March 17, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this
Amvet,
Yeah, and I like Jackson’s funny refrain “to the mating calls of lawyers in love”, too. James Taylor’s composition “Milworker”, for the stage musical inspired by Terkel’s “Working”, is like a Eugene Debs tract on the subject.
But the old dream of sweating your way there is still very much in evidence, especially among immigrants. It’s still happening.
It’s just that at some point the noble efforts toward betterment seem, increasingly often, to render people as multi-mathematical constructs—-almost as numbers, as statistics chasing after statistics. Tell me of your statistics, and I will check with the statisticians to tell you whether you are successful. It’s especially apparent, and sometimes apalling, when it goes like this: “Tell me of your child’s statistics…”
By AmVet
March 17, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this
…lypse, what the hell EVER gave you the idea I’m a Hillary supporter. I have said repeatedly I would not vote for her unless in the most dire of circumstances.
And thankfully those didn’t happen.
I believe IF she were to govern like her husband, she could be a good President, but I’m just sick of seeing Bushes or Clintons in the White House frankly.
And she would create unity in DC about as well as King George II built a coalition on his drive to save daddy’s legacy in Baghdad…
By RW-(the original)
March 17, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this
The racist, anti-American rantings of Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama’s spiritual mentor and pastor of the church Obama attended for 20 years, raise many red flags about Obama’s supposedly best selling point: his unique capability for healing societal divisions.
{{{{Considering our deep-seated societal disagreements over cultural and political issues, promises by politicians to end societal divisiveness are dubious enough on their face. But when the promisor’s personal history contradicts his promises, even further scrutiny is required.}}}}}
{{{{It’s difficult to gauge Obama’s genuineness in standing on this kind of platform because he has such a short political history to evaluate. Stories have been written, pointing to his extreme liberalism and scant record of reaching across the aisle, that cast serious doubt on his unifying claims. Until now, his lofty speeches have obscured these inconsistencies.}}}}
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Blowhard,
The fourth paragraph of your 5:44 is the funniest thing you’ve ever contributed here. Congratulations! Unless you were serious in which case you should seek counseling.