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World’s richest man

By Mike Luckovich | Friday, March 7, 2008, 08:53 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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By AJC Management

March 10, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

{{{{It might have seemed timely that in New York an array of leading climatologists and other experts should have gathered for the most high-powered international conference yet to question the “consensus” on global warming. After three days of what the chairman called “the kind of free-spirited debate that is virtually absent from the global warming alarmist camp”, the 500 delegates issued the Manhattan Declaration, stating that attempts by governments to reduce CO2 emissions would “markedly diminish further prosperity” while having “no appreciable impact” on the Earth’s warming.}}}}

But the alarmists plod on towards the cliff:

{{{{In February, the San Jose Mercury News reported on how the Valley Transportation Authority found that the VTA’s three zero-emission buses (ZEBs) cost $51.66 per mile to fuel, maintain and operate — compared to $1.61 per mile for a diesel bus.}}}}

{{{{No worries. The California Air Resources Board wants to expand ZEBs. CARB regulations mandate that by 2012, 15 percent of buses purchased by larger transit agencies will be ZEBs.}}}}

~~~~~

{{{{On Friday March 7th the Bureau of Labour Statistics announced that the economy lost 63,000 non-farm jobs in February, following a smaller decline in employment in January. Even with all the bearish talk recently, these results were unexpectedly bad; forecasters had projected a small increase, not the largest drop in five years. >>>>The unemployment rate edged down from 4.9% to 4.8%,<<<< but only because there were fewer unemployed people actively searching for work.}}}}

Remember the Baby Boomers and their impending retirements?

Well, it has begun.

How else can you explain the unemployment rate dropping a full tenth of a percent? That’s pretty close to 200,000 less people in the workforce.

Doing the math, it means 63,000 of those positions lost to retirement were not replaced but 137,000 were.

That’s not bad.

A modest downsizing at just the right time.

Now take a second look at how the drive by media is playing this story.

By AJC Management

March 10, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

Duh beginning of The End:

{{{{HH: You know, Hitchens was on yesterday. He couldn’t wait to bring up Nadhmi Auchi, the Iraqi who lives in London. And he spelled the name out for my audience. He said more to come. And it’s the sort of thing that Hitchens doesn’t do without warrant, and it seems to me that this is going to be, well, a long-running story in the six weeks that Obama doesn’t need a long-running story, Mark Steyn.}}}}

{{{{MS: No, I think that’s true. I mean, the Senator’s position is that he has no recollection of meeting this rather sinister Iraqi, which leads to the obvious question, well, how many sinister Iraqis does the average Illinois state senator meet?}}}}

Duhsn’t look good for Obambi.

{{{{MS: Well, you know, a lot of Republicans voted for Hillary. That shows she has great crossover appeal, too. I’m happy to complicate the Democratic primary process for as long as we can.}}}}

{{{{HH: Now here’s my best argument against it, which is that Democrats are wrong about every matter of policy. They have nominated John Kerry and Al Gore. They traditionally make horrible choices. Don’t in any way interfere with the exercise of their bad judgment in politics.}}}}

Bwa.

By Doofy

March 10, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

Am I first?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

President Petro

By Dumb

March 10, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

Get a better car with gas mileage, ride a bike, use Marta. This cartoon is dumb. Let’s drill in the U.S., sorry I forgot the Bush haters will not let us drill here, but want to still blame him for high gas prices, morons.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

SNL Spoofs Hillary’s 3AM Ad

AND

On the Red Phone

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

House GOP funk worsens

PLAY THAT FUNKY MUSIC MIDDLE AGED WHITE GUY!

AND

MSNBC will announce Monday that Tucker Carlson’s TV show is being canceled:

Maybe Rachel will help him out when they give her a show…..

By @@

March 10, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

Somehow I’m thinking Bill is still the world’s richest man because….

he’s got “drive”.

By Paul

March 10, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

IThN 8:39

Gasp! Your source was a… lobbyist?!!? An evil, degenerate, influence-peddling scum corrupting the legislative process? And cited in the… San Francisco Chronicle? An ultralib newspaper citing expert testimony from… an evil lobbyist?

Are you sure Presswood’s not on Sen McCain’s election committee?

It’s shaping up to be a fun day!

By George

March 10, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

Thanks ITN,

Saw this on politico link that made my day.

Listen up, Republicans! Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

We gotta take these bastids! Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out.! I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part! Do we change our party platform just because 28 years of conservative rule has been an abject failure? NO!!!! Should we decry lobbyists, criminality and cronyism just because 37 of us were convicted of horrendous crimes in 2007 alone? NO!!!! Should we discontinue holding up the judiciary process by using cheap tricks just because the American people are threatening to throw us out of office on our heinies? Hellll NO!!!!

Awright, so snap those jockstraps and get back in the game. Win one for the great water-carrier, Rush Limbaugh! And remember . . we may be dead wrong, factsless, unethical, bigotted, delusional, and sadly-mistaken pathetic losers, but we’ve got the CORPORATE MEDIA ON OUR SIDE !!!!!!!!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Paul

Are you an enabler in this nations oil addiction?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Weak dollar compounds problem of increasing food prices

By Copyleft

March 10, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

How will drilling domestically help get us off the oil addiction?

By Paul

March 10, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

IThN 8:57

By “enabler” do you mean philosophically, personally, or both? I try to be congruent.

If you’ve read my posts before you should know I’ve long advocated increased mpg standards for cars, light trucks, SUVs, minivans, crossovers - all of ‘em. That’s primary as it’s the one area that can realize the quickest and largest impact on petroleum consumption.

I do not say “ban new sourcing of domestic oil.” Nor do I want to outlaw personal transportation and go to entirely mass transit - a bit overstated, but extremists are to be found everywhere. I’ve written that both sides need to compromise.

My opinion - we have two strategic interests in the Middle East - oil and Islamic militarism. One we can mitigate by our own actions - our reliance on oil. The other is a function of another’s ideology and is independent of where we have military forces, companies, etc. So, reducing our reliance on ME oil will allow us to minimize our involvement there, but will not affect the attitude of those who preach militancy.

So I’d have to say I’ve been pretty critical of this nation’s oil addiction. And of administrations going back post-Carter (who reacted only when a crisis landed in his lap). Also of past Congresses. As O’Reilly said to Newt Gingrich a week or so ago on this issue - “the government (of which you were a part) have failed the American people.”

By How sad can you get?

March 10, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

When somebody makes fourteen posts in an hour on a cartoon chat room page, that pretty well defines the bottom of how sad a person can get.

By Copyleft

March 10, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

“When somebody makes fourteen posts in an hour on a cartoon chat room page, that pretty well defines the bottom of how sad a person can get.”

No, we always have AJCMgmt/Dull/Duh/Andy so set the bar lower.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

{{{By How sad can you get?

March 10, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

When somebody makes fourteen posts in an hour on a cartoon chat room page, that pretty well defines the bottom of how sad a person can get.}}}

TO SAY NOTHING ABOUT THE SOMEBODY WHO JUST HANGS AROUND TO BE A CRITIC.

THAT IS OF COURSE, UNLESS THAT SOMEBODY POSTS USING MULTIPLE NAMES

WHADDYA THINK?

By N-GA

March 10, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

I laugh at anyone who believes that US gas prices would be significantly lower if drilling had been allowed in the ANWR. We MIGHT just be seeing some of that oil now. And I suspect the oil companies would have a thousand (and one) reasons why gas prices were so high.

A few examples: 1) Those damn liberals made it so expensive to drill so those itty-bitty elk wouldn’t be hurt. 2) We have plenty of oil, but our refinery capacity is limited. 2) Our corporate taxes are so high that we have to pass them on to the consumer so that our executives can continue to rake in the cash. 4) We have to pay those lobbyists to keep up the good work. 5) We have to keep paying those politicians to keep up the good work. 6) At these prices we make more money by selling the oil to Japan, China, Korea, etc.

There is no lack of excuses. There is no lack of stupidity on the part of the hacks, either.

Where is the comprehensive energy policy? Where is that phone call to “my friends” in Saudi Arabia?

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

ITN, Not directed at me, but I’m an enabler. I drive a Tahoe. Big V8, seating for 7, room for tools, sports equipment, 3 kids, their friends, and their stuff. It works for me and my family. Yes, there are lots of times, such as driving to work, that I drive it all by myself, but I can’t afford a second car, so I have to drive one that meets all of my needs.

The thing I find aggravating about the liberals stance on more efficient cars vs. local oil drilling is the timing. I think all of us would be all for more efficient cars as long as they still meet our needs. A Prius just doesn’t work for my family. The hybrid SUV’s from GM might help, but realistically, how many people can afford a new one and will that number really have any meaningful impact in the next 5-10 years? No. My guess would be the increase in population over that time would offset most of the gains and we would still be in the same spot we are today; having done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to get away from the middle east oil problems. That doesn’t sound like “change” to me. Sounds like head buried in the sand more of the same nonsense.

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Paul,

“Nor do I want to outlaw personal transportation and go to entirely mass transit”

I do. I hate driving. Oh, just kidding - I have to have some fun this Monday morning.

I want a monorail system like they have in Disney World - all around the state of Georgia. That wouldn’t cost too much now, would it?

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

ITN, Not directed at me, but I’m an enabler. I drive a Tahoe. Big V8, seating for 7, room for tools, sports equipment, 3 kids, their friends, and their stuff. It works for me and my family. Yes, there are lots of times, such as driving to work, that I drive it all by myself, but I can’t afford a second car, so I have to drive one that meets all of my needs.

The thing I find aggravating about the liberals stance on more efficient cars vs. local oil drilling is the timing. I think all of us would be all for more efficient cars as long as they still meet our needs. A Prius just doesn’t work for my family. The hybrid SUV’s from GM might help, but realistically, how many people can afford a new one and will that number really have any meaningful impact in the next 5-10 years? No. My guess would be the increase in population over that time would offset most of the gains and we would still be in the same spot we are today; having done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to get away from the middle east oil problems. That doesn’t sound like “change” to me. Sounds like head buried in the sand more of the same nonsense.

By Copyleft

March 10, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Jimmy Carter tried to tell us, three decades ago, to get over our selfish oil habits and learn to conserve.

America despised him for it… but he was right.

By Paul

March 10, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

N-GA

“Where is the comprehensive energy policy?”

A good question for the candidates.

I saw Barak Obama in Texas. When he got to the part about alternate energy, biodiesel, etc, the audience cheered. When he said “we have to get away from 6mpg vehicles and have another round of mpg increases” the audience got quiet. (More pickups are sold in Texas than in the rest of the country combined. Escalades account for more sales at some premium Cadillac dealerships than all other models combined. Vehicle weight is the primary factor that affects gas consumption).

He smiled and said he got the same reaction when he spoke to Ford and GM executives. He said they didn’t like the message - but it was one reason Honda and Toyota were cleaning their clocks.

It might not have been comprehensive but it was definitely courageous.

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

N-GA -

See RB’s response @9:42 - there’s another excuse: it just doesn’t fit MY NEEDS. I might actually have to change my lifestyle, and forget that buddy!

By Paul

March 10, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett

A subpoint is: automakers put emphasis on mpg when it’s to their financial benefit. Nothing wrong with that.

But for years domestic automakers emphasized SUVs because of their greater contribution to short-term profitability. Nothing wrong with that, either.

When we first had mpg standards about 35 years ago and Ford introduced their new, small, Pinto - what’d it get - under 20? Pathetic by today’s standards.

But can automakers do better? Sure. So one has a vehicle the size and weight of a Tahoe. Does it “need” the V-8? Ford just had a huge splash about same or more power, much better mileage thru turbocharging. Funny, Saab’s been doing that for years and years and years. Producing 4-cylinder engines with lots of power and good mileage. But the incentive has not been there for US automakers.

You had a darn good point about having one vehicle to do it all, further strengthened by your point you have one vehicle! But if the design specifications are for automakers to produce a vehicle that will carry a family with three kids, tools, pets, etc, I’m confident they can come up with some designs that are less resource-intensive. (just check the interior space of many new crossovers compared to many sedans - and check the mpg difference. Design trumps). And safe. And affordable. They’re pretty clever when they have to be.

IThN

Biggest impact most people can have with what they’ve got - drive the speed limit. Compared with the speed they drive (even in an urban area) they can save 20 percent fuel. That’s, what - 60-70 cents a gallon saved?

By Copyleft

March 10, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Paul: Nice to hear that Obama has the courage to give Americans the bad news: our lifestyle IS going to have to change.

Let’s hope America has grown up a bit since the selfish seventies.

By Abomi Nation

March 10, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

RB, no comment on the Hasert seat?

Tell us again how the American public disapprove of the Dems in congress.

While you’re at it you haven’t updated us on the stock market lately, hows that going?

Oh, and the real estate billboard, whats it telling you about the real estate market today?

By bon scott

March 10, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

“A modest downsizing at just the right time”??????

Man, that’s a stretch….. even for you, Andy-poo….

This is more like it.

Eat some of this with your Cheerios and Kool-Aid breakfast.

Retiring baby boomers behind job numbers? Take off the rose colored glasses, son. Or at least get a new prescription.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

THE COMPLETE GOP MESSAGE RIGHT HERE

By Glenn

March 10, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

C’mon RB, you drive it because it makes you somehow feel like a Big Man and improves your self image of masculinity and if you are in an accident you’ll likely kill the other person(s) because of your size & weight advantage. You’re no different than 90% of the other Little People who badly neeeeed a truck in order to feel worthwhile. Sad but true. Get thee to a shrink.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

By Bosch 9:49 AM

Nice thoughts Bosch. Please either explain to me how I can get 400sq ft of hardwood flooring, a compressor, nail guns, and a mitre saw in a Prius, or start writing a check to GM for my new hybrid SUV. Pick one, because I don’t see how to make the Prius work and I can’t afford a new vehicle. If you don’t have a better solution for me, then you need to quit whining about what I drive (and millions more). You need to get over the idea that people who drive SUV’s don’t care about the enviroment, their gas mileage, etc. That’s wrong. Most of us care alot, but don’t have a better solution. Whining is not a solution.

Steadily increasing legislation is part of the answer, but that takes time. Knee jerk never works and is always very expensive.

Interesting observation… Gas in Europe has been nearly 4x the price it is here for 20 years. Why haven’t the Euro car makers made any significant progress in high mileage vehicles?

By Paul

March 10, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

IThN 9:54

Probably your best link yet. Source material. I’ve said before: being “right” for the right reasons is different for being right for the wrong reasons.

On this issue, looks like Obama nailed it. And I think he’s much different that the Clintons, Pelosis and Reids who changed their tune when the war’s management went wrong. That has nothing to do with the reasons for their initial support (“Bush lied” was a political calculation).

That’s possibly one reason why Gen McPeak, former Chief of Staff, US Air Force, is one of Obama’s cochairs. And why more and more polls show Obama to be a stronger candidate than Hillary against McCain.

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Even Southern Baptist Convention have evolved enough to now believe that Global Warming is real:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/10/baptist.climate/index.html

OK, nut-case neo-conmen and women. What’s your lame defense now?

GLOBAL WARMING IS MAN’S FAULT. YOU’RE ‘STUCK ON STUPID’ IF YOU BELIIEVE OTHERWISE!!!!!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Thanks for reading it Paul.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

By Abomi Nation 10:07 AM |

Do you ever have anything useful to say? Every one of your posts is nothing more than Bush bashing, the sky is falling, the world is ending, pathetic whining. Again, you are your own worst enemy. If you have that little joy in your life, look in the mirror and do something about it. If you’re honest, your life sucked just as bad during the Clinton years as it does now, didn’t it? It’s not Bush making your life a living hell, it’s your loser attitude. Try the mirror.

By Paul

March 10, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett

About half the cars sold in Europe are diesel. Much, much better mileage. But US was stymied because of environmental concerns. New biodiesel fuels do away with that concern.

Even cars like BMW - Mercedes. Here the larger engines rule. In Europe, not so much.

So the net effect of smaller engines is greater economy on a national scale.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

By Abomi Nation 10:07 AM |

Do you ever have anything useful to say? Every one of your posts is nothing more than Bush bashing, the sky is falling, the world is ending, pathetic whining. Again, you are your own worst enemy. If you have that little joy in your life, look in the mirror and do something about it. If you’re honest, your life sucked just as bad during the Clinton years as it does now, didn’t it? It’s not Bush making your life a living hell, it’s your loser attitude. Try the mirror.

By AJC Management

March 10, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

{{{{By bon scott March 10, 2008 10:12 AM Retiring baby boomers behind job numbers? Take off the rose colored glasses, son. Or at least get a new prescription.}}}}

Bonnie: Instead of throwing Paul Krugman at me perhaps you’d like to take a stab at explaining how the unemployment rate went down a tenth of a percent?

If 63,000 people were laid off and the number of people in the workforce stayed the same, then the unemployment rate would have to go up. But it didn’t.

This is pretty simple to understand.

A lot of people left the workforce last quarter.

Did they all die?

Were they all murdered by returning Iraqi veterans?

Maybe Paul Krugman can give us a synopsis instead of his usual crying jag?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Let’s see….

AJC MGMT vs. Paul Krugman

No contest!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

TO: Representative Steve King 1609 Longworth House Office Building 1609 LHOB Washington, D.C., District of Columbia 20515-1505

Sir:

Re your remarks of Friday, March 7th, that should Barack Obama be elected president, the “terrorists would be dancing in the streets”.

I hate to be the one to break it to you, sir, but the terrorists won’t be dancing over anyone’s election to the US presidency, due to the fact that after the seven-plus years of the Bush administration, they are simply all danced out.

Although we cannot ever know for sure, their first celebration was most likely in the months leading up to September 11, 2001. Surely there was much merriment over the fact that the insistence of people like Richard Clarke that the new administration should be taking past intelligence, along with increased chatter, seriously and act accordingly, his admonitions were falling on decidedly deaf ears. And then there was the August 6th memo, “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the US”. As Mr. Bush and his cohorts chose to ignore that warning, the dancing in the streets must have been truly phenomenal.

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Here’s the Clinton years, RB!

Gas: $1.25/gal

Oil: $35/bbl

Stock market: Greatest rise in history.

Budget deficit: None!

Budget Surplus: $87 billion!

Wars: Zero!

Terrorist attacks during administration: One.

Result: All conspirators are now in jail or dead!

Bush Years:

Gas: $3.20 and rising!

Oil: $105 and rising! Highest price in history even after adjusting for inflation

Budget Deficit: Nearly a Trillion dollars - that’s $1,000,000,000,000

Budget Surplus: Yeah, right!!

Wars: Two and counting!

Terrorist attacks: One

Result: bin Laden still at large, but we have killed nearly a million Iraqi and Afghans!!

Yep, that Bush is a real man!!!

By Soothsayer

March 10, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Buy this substance, put it in your car, explode it. REPEAT.

What if your car RECHARGED ITSELF in the parking lot at work?

What if you had your very own ENERGY PLANT in your own backyard? What if that energy plant used only the rays of the SUN to create energy? What if you SOLD your excess energy? What if you didn’t have BUY ANY ENERGY?

WELCOME TO THE FUTURE!!!!!

The sun is always shining somewhere.

By Copyleft

March 10, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

I wonder how many in Obama’s truck-driving audience had flags and yellow ribbons on those trucks, and would call themselves “proud supporters of the war on terror”?

Until they’re asked to make some sort of Personal Sacrifice, that is. Then their true colors show… and they sure aren’t red, white, and blue.

“The smaller they are, the bigger the car.”

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

RB,

I, like Paul, commend you for having one car, but it’s still an excuse. I wish more people would work schedules around so they would only have one car.

My point earlier was not so much directed at you, but it’s an excuse I’ve seen before: why should I have to change my lifestyle? The auto manufacturers all want us to believe that our lives would somehow be diminished if we had to give up our SUVS.

Do you carry around 400 square feet of hardwood, a nail gun, compressors, and other equipment around on a daily basis?

If you drive a car, you are an enabler of the oil companies, which, I’m assuming we are all guilty of, plain and simple. Personally,I would like to see more public funds be spend on better public transportation - like the monorails I mentioned earlier - kind of a joke, but not.

The point about European car makers? One of the reasons is that Europeans don’t have cars like we do. They have public transporation - they have smaller communities and live near their jobs - their countries are geographically smaller - their roads are smaller, many SUVs couldn’t get to their final destination - they’d get freaking stuck! They don’t spend tax money on roads like we do - they spend it on public transportation. Their governments have made it damn near impossible for many people to own a car due to regulations, taxes, etc. forcing many people to walk (gasp!) ride bikes, etc.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

NSA quietly expands domestic spying program, even as Congress balks

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

If I Were A Terrorist!

By Rick

March 10, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

AJC/homoDuh, the homo-hater is really unglued. Waited at his screen again all weekend to be usual first poster. Now that’s a power trip, eh?? Why the name change, HomoDuh?? From how many things are you trying to escape? Why? Yeah, if I were you I’d wanta escape too. Pitiful.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

By Truthman 10:40 AM

Waaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah.

{{{Terrorist attacks during administration: One.}}} USS Cole, WTC’93, Barracks, 2 embassey’s, ….. You’re dishonest, TM.

You live in a sheltered world with tunnel vision. I’m not a big fan of some of what Bush as done either, but you give him waaaay too much credit for much of what you listed. Clinton too.

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

U.S.S. Cole was a military operation, not a terrorist attack. Embassies not on N. American Contintent

P.S. It’s “Embassy”

You’re just another Clinton hater!

Go Barack! Pls bring us back to respectability in the world!

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

By Rick 10:59 AM

Isn’t the term “homo” a bit offensive in the derogatory manner you’re using it? You’re obviously saying that being homosexual is a despicable thing since your using that label to bash someone. A bit hypocritical from a liberal don’t you think? Typical.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

By Rick 10:59 AM

Isn’t the term “homo” a bit offensive in the derogatory manner you’re using it? You’re obviously saying that being homosexual is a despicable thing since your using that label to bash someone. A bit hypocritical from a liberal don’t you think? Typical.

By celia

March 10, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

i’m a single mother with 3 school age children. i work two jobs not because i have to but to pay my college tuition. i cannot afford a new car. my future and that of my children is more important than a car that meets environmental standards.

these are the facts.

By N-GA

March 10, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Having one vehicle really doesn’t matter. What matters is how efficient it is and how many miles it is driven. If someone has 3 vehicles, yet he/she drives the same # of miles as if they had one vehicle, then where is the problem? This is particularly true when you’re talking about “specialty” vehicles. For example, did you use your Vespa to run errands instead of your Escalade?

Now there may be valid reasons for not being able to afford a new, fuel-efficient vehicle to replace a gas hog. But if we can assume the new vehicle has twice the gas mileage, and that the original vehicle required 1,000 gallons of gas per year, then saving 500 gallons of gas at $3.00 per gallon equals $1,500. That’s more than $100/month for a new car payment. Just an observation!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No 328

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Great letter in today’s AJC:

benefits from ‘Iraqi gains’

If Kevin Ferris had waited a few days to write his column, he might have reconsidered (“Deadline a threat to Iraqi gains,” @issue, March 4). The violence in Iraq is certainly reduced from last year, but the political gains he cites have not lasted the week.

The provincial powers and voting bill was vetoed by the Presidential Council, the de-Baathification statute makes it more difficult for many Sunnis to rejoin the political process, and the budget did not address the hardest issues and has been rejected by the Kurds.

Although the political progress collapsed, the Iraqi leadership did manage to welcome Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for a state visit complete with red carpet. President Bush has to sneak in unannounced in the middle of the night at an American base and Ahmadinejad lands at the airport and drives around town after his trip was announced in Iraqi media. After nearly 4,000 dead, 30,000 wounded and a trillion dollars from us, Ahmadinejad rides through Baghdad in victory.

ED DARDEN, Atlanta

Yep, that war with Iraq really helped out Western Civilization, eh RB/@@/Shawny/Dusty/Luck-o-dunce.

Bush/Cheney have made the streets of Baghdad safe…for Iranians!!! Ahmadinejad didn’t need body armor, a kevlar helmet and an up-armored Humvee to travel in Baghdad.

Good job, idiots!!

By Jesus

March 10, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Please check out my 10:23 post.

Now, what lies will the unbelievers hide behind!?!

Truth hurts, doesn’t it!!

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

By Truthman 11:08 AM |

Dimwit. An embassy is US soil, regardless of where it is in the world. Just as if it was located in the heart of Tennessee. Please enlighten us all how you can separate an attack on US citizens on US soil in one place from another. Those were not attacks on bricks and sheetrock, fool, they were attacks on the United States.

So, you’re saying we were “militarily” attacked by the troops of another nation?? And we didn’t do anthing about that? That’s rather pathetic, don’t you think?

Clinton hater? I didn’t vote for Clinton, think he’s a slimy POS, but as a president, things weren’t so bad during his term. I don’t hate him. Don’t trust him for 1 second either. Would you let your wife/daughter meet with him in private? Me neither.

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

Oops! Sorry, didn’t mean to repeat.

I guess since the Rapture is taking so damn, freaking long…….

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

RB, yes I know embassies are “sovereign territory,” but I believe it was mostly Kenyans and Tanzanians working at our embassies who were killed. Something like 200-300 vs. 12 Americans.

And yes, I would trust Bill Clinton with my daughter.

Would you trust Bush with your son or daughter getting ready to deploy to Iraq? Me neither!!

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

RDRR (say it fast)!!

Funny person!!!

Isn’t RB just the funniest!?!

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

RB,

Now what is pathetic is to assume that anytime Bill Clinton is alone with a woman or small female child that he would somehow bring harm to them.

Do you seriously believe that?

By AJC/Duh-the-magic-homo

March 10, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

5 more GIs just blown to pieces in safe downtown Baghdaddy. We continue our winning ways. God bless Bush and God bless Merka!

By Bob

March 10, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

RB (11:54) Doesn’t speak very well of your wife/daughter, now does it??

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Rove: ‘I Fully Expect To Be Indicted By The End Of The Year’

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

FROM FIREDOGLAKE

Iraqis search for signs of change in U.S. election Monday March 10, 2008 9:16 am Source: Reuters Author: Aseel Kami Published: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL106445620080310

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqis are avidly watching the 2008 U.S. election race, searching for signs of policy change under a new president and prospects for U.S. troop withdrawals from their country.

“I do not care if the president is a man or a woman, what really matters is the change of American policy towards Iraq,” said Muhenad Sahib, a university professor from the southern oil hub of Basra, Iraq’s second largest city.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, rivals for the Democratic nomination, have squared off over Iraq. Clinton voted to authorize the 2003 U.S.-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein but has since urged Congress to revoke approval. Obama opposed the war from the outset.

Both have vowed to start bringing troops home in 2009 if elected, while Republican candidate John McCain has supported President George W. Bush’s 30,000-strong troop build-up which has been partially credited for sharply falling levels of violence across Iraq.

Athil al-Nujaifi, a member of a secular, multi-ethnic political bloc in the volatile northern city of Mosul, said a Democrat victory would offer the United States “a new future”.

“The current situation in Iraq is tied to President Bush and his inability to admit his mistake in occupying Iraq and his inability to avoid the mistakes the neo-conservatives committed,” Nujaifi said.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Iraqi Americans Give Their Two Cents on the War [VIDEO]

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Drugs coming from my tap water? Talk about skipping a step.

By Robin Collins

March 10, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

I am so mad! Jimmy Buffett tickets went on sale this morning and I didn’t get any. I and two others tried for 6 tickets but none of us got any. They were sold out in a very few minutes.

The reason that I am mad is that ticket brokers, who are allowed to buy tickets in a pre-sale, got all the good seats and are now reselling them for a hefty profit. $36 Lawn tickets were on sale YESTERDAY for $75 to $150. Today I see reserved seat tickets, not even on the front row, for up to $4,719.00 EACH. That doesn’t mean someone will buy them for that price but the ticket broker will get at least half that for sure.

Its just not fair that rich people get to sit back and have ticket brokers get them the best tickets and don’t have to scramble like we do. This is just not fair. There should be something in America that the rich and poor get equal access to. At the very LEAST this should be concert tickets. This system of legally allowing ticket brokers to buy tickets and resell tickets is unfair and should be made illegal under equal rights legislation.

Ticket brokering is defended by economic principles of ‘supply and demand’ and ‘fair market value’. According to Wikipedia, “A fair market value is often an estimate of what a willing buyer would pay to a willing seller, both in a free market, for an asset or any piece of property. If such a transaction actually occurs, then the actual transaction price is usually the fair market value. Note that the opinion of people that are not interested in buying or selling an asset has little meaning, because they are not active in the market.” (That would be poor and middle class people who are not able to pay broker prices and are not active in that market.)

These legal ticket brokers are nothing more than scalpers! No ticket to an event should be allowed to be resold for a profit. When I do buy a ticket, I pay a handling charge to the organizer; that fee should include insurance that I have bought a ticket at a fair price. Resellers should not be able to make a profit. All Americans should have equal rights to concert tickets!

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Robin,

Settle down. I really don’t think you meant to post here?

Jimmy Buffet sucks. His concerts are creepy - a bunch of old drunk hippies and fat women screaming something about getting drunk and screwing and eating cheeseburgers (while doing all three I might add at the concert) Believe me, you are better off not going - one of the worst concerts I’ve ever been to. I was totally freaked out the whole time.

And, it’s REALLY bad to post personal information on blogs just in case someone has never told you that before.

But you are 100% correct in your ticket broker analysis.

By @@

March 10, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Putin, done in by a microbe?

Cool!

(((A new alternative ——->fuel technology backed by oil supermajor BP<——- would use microscopic organisms to produce methane from carbon dioxide. If the technology proves successful, it could have consequences for countries like Russia, which have large natural gas deposits and thus are massively influential in the current global energy market.)))

(((The new alternative fuel technology would produce methane (also known as natural gas) from carbon dioxide (CO2) using microscopic organisms, or microbes, that eat CO2 and produce methane as waste. The technology is based on advancements in both genomics and microbiology and is being propelled by U.S. geneticist Craig Venter, most noted for his work on sequencing the human genome. Venter claims that in 18 months his research company, Synthetic Genomics, will be able to produce this nontraditional source of natural gas, but only time will tell how cost-effective this new technology will be in comparison to traditionally sourced natural gas.)))

It’s a twofer.

By AJC Management

March 10, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

{{{{This space is usually devoted to pristine moral reasoning, but, hell, it’s an election year. Let’s get down and dirty. If McCain really wants to have it all—to refurbish his maverick image without having to flip-flop on the panderings that have tarnished it; to galvanize the attention of the press, the nation, and the world; to make a bold play for the center without seriously alienating “the base”—then he can avail himself of a highly interesting option: Condoleezza Rice.}}}}

Bwa.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it time for a little political theater???

{{{I got a message from Waxman in my inbox this morning. He is talking about bringing impeachment charges over the matter of “Executive Privilege” AND (and this is where I fell off my chair). .He is bringing up the possibility of charging former White House Council Harriet Miers and White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten with

INHERENT CONTEMPT

and sending the House Sergeant at Arms to bring Miers and Bolton in.

(This means he doesn’t NEED the Justice Department to bring them in. He can have them brought in himself!)

This is a change, kids.. and a pretty big one. The House power of Inherent Contempt hasn’t been used since 1934 }}}}}

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

@@,

Cars ran on microbe farts? I like it!

What kind of microbes?

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

If you’d gone to a Publix with cash in hand, you could’ve gotten your precious tickets.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

By Bob 12:17 PM

{{{RB (11:54) Doesn’t speak very well of your wife/daughter, now does it??}}}

Are you really that ignorant of Bill Clinton’s past to post something that stupid? Here’s a clue for you… Jones, Flowers, Broderick, etc. didn’t accuse Billy with having sex with them that they wanted. They all claimed they were effectively RAPED by the man. And yes, I know there is no proof of any of those, but you know the man lied about Monica and it would be foolish to assume he was telling the truth about the others.

By Constitutional scholar

March 10, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

Inherent Contempt of Congress is a doctrine which has only ever been used against MEMBERS of Congress. Waxman is a fool and once again he illusrates this fact by his clumsy attempt to do something for which there is not legal precedent.

By Paul

March 10, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

Robin 12:43

I think you’re right to be angry… under certain circumstances.

I got Paul McCartney tickets when he was on tour. Got’em in the first two minutes. After that, they were sold out. The venue was a city facility, built with tax dollars. In those instances, or in instances where the operators are getting tax breaks, then I think it proper to prohibit sales such as you cite. Same for sports facilities. When the taxpayers build the facility, or the owners get substantial breaks from taxpayers, then restrictions on sales and resales are appropriate.

That’s a matter for mayors and city councils. But good luck.

Truthman

Sounds interesting. Do you know how Publix does it? And are there other such outlets?

By Midori

March 10, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I’m still laughing at your 12:56 :)

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

RB,

And are you really stupid enough to post that there is no proof of any of the allegations, after writing they were effectively RAPED?

Those are some pretty serious accusations to be followed with that you have no proof. Just saying.

Are you really stupid enough to insinuate (?sp) that a former POTUS can never be alone with a woman or small female child without causing harm to them? Pretty shallow, and dishonest, and foolish don’t cha think?

Sometimes it’s just better to admit your wrong or terribly over exagerrated, or are just one big Clinton hater.

By Constitutional Scholar

March 10, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

To clarify - Congress has ony used this doctrine successfully once against a non-member. After the 1934 case of Jerney v. McCraken the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Congress had authority to use its inherent contempt powers on a non-member. However, it is doubtful that it would be successful today because in the 1950s the doctrine of executive privilege was first successfully defended by the Eisenhower administration in relation to presidential advisors. This privilege has been a doctrine asserted by presidents since George Washington.

By AmVet

March 10, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

G’day mates!

Lots of great stuff today. ITN your links are invaluable and whenever one of the usual (or even unusual) suspects b!tches about them, you know you’re doing a good job.

Your 8:44 and 9:17, as well as Truthman’s 10:23 are quite noteworthy.

Many would not argue with the assessment that the So. Baptist Conv. is one of the most didactic groups in the western hemisphere and when even they change their collective opinion based on more and more and more mounting evidence of man-induced global warming, things are really starting to go in a good direction.

And that some here have actually posited “variations in the sun’s temperature” as a factor (I’m NOT making this sh!t up!) really goes to the heart of a debate engaged in by the most scientifically ignorant deniers imaginable.

Equally ludicrous have been these extreme right wing “arguments” alluding to “wobbles in the earth’s orbit” and “cow flatulence”.

Yes we still have the Dobson’s and Bauer’s but even their protests are now half-hearted at best, as they know the answers cannot be found in their theology/mythology.

Will the last man-induced global-warming naysayer please turn out the lights and shut the door behind you?

Thank you.

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

I’m just glad no Republicans ever lie about sex!!

If the condom does not fit, you must acquit!!

By Paul

March 10, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Constitutional Scholar

If Waxman were to charge everyone who’s inherently contemptuous of Congress…

would there be anyone left uncharged?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Constitutional Scholar (please list your qualifications for this title and they can’t include the fact that you are the troll with a new mythical character)

Vs.

Waxman

No Contest.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I often wonder if you don’t have the reading comprehension of a microbe.

{{{Are you really stupid enough to insinuate (?sp) that a former POTUS can never be alone with a woman or small female child without causing harm to them?}}}

I have no idea what Bill would do alone with women or children in the room, but as I said, I DON’T TRUST HIM.

Would you also allow your kids to go play alone at the house of the child molester down the street? Fools.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Thanks, AmVet

I respect what you do to!

By W stands for worst

March 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

RB-

So if Clinton as you say is a know liar because of Monica, then do you consider W a liar? Because i can name alot more instances where i can prove W is lying, where as you are basing your claim on one lie. I know you arent naive enough to think politicians dont lie………

By @@

March 10, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

(((What kind of microbes?)))

Turbo charged microbes. I couldn’t link you to Stratfor, but this site tells the story.

Actually, organisms already exist that produce octane as waste products, but not in the vast amounts needed for a sustained supply. However, their metabolisms can be tweaked with synthetic chromosomes to consume more CO2 to make more fuel.

What I found most interesting is that it’s that “evil” oil company BP who’s funding the research.

I watched a show the other night on the history channel. Seems as though mussels are a problem at the Hoover Dam. They clog up the cooling mechanisms, and if they’re not eliminated the dam shuts down and power generation is eliminated for every state who gets their power from the Hoover Dam. Other consequences would be Lake Meade drying up, flooding, all sorts of catastrophes.

I wonder if the environmentalists raise cain about those mussels?

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Just heard on WSB-TV. He’s going to be here, but will go IMMEDIATELY back to Washington afterwards. Emphasis placed on IMMEDIATELY.

I thought a felt a disturbance in the force!

By Constitutional scholar

March 10, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

I was just passing through and say the comment by someone who was talking about Waxman’s typically ham-handed and bone-headed move. I did graduate from law school in 1985 and have taught and practiced since then. I have worked on different projects even for the ACLU, when I think they are right, which is quite seldom. My qualifications are no greater than any other lawyer, but this is really basic 2nd year stuff.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Constitutional Scholar “just passing thru” - good then you can read Turley’s comments.

Let’s call in continuing education.

By Presidential Scholar

March 10, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

George W Bush- Worst President in American history.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 2:02 PM

Let me guess, you can prove W is lying because you heard it on Oprah.

Sheep.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 2:02 PM

Let me guess, you can prove W is lying because you heard it on Oprah.

Sheep.

By Shawny

March 10, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

NY Dem Gov Spitzer linked to prostitution ring - NYTimes.

Mr. Spitzer, a first-term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform and end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.

By Antineocon

March 10, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

I thought the topic of today’s cartoon had to do with the outrageous increase in the cost of gasoline. Instead, we’re treated to garbage. Wake up, people!!! What we’re witnessing is the collapse of an economic policy developed and promoted by Republicans who, until last year, controlled both chambers of Congress since 1994 and who were led by a President who, for the last 8 years, has run it into the ground. Blame Clinton? Blame Democrats? Blame Baby Boomers? I think not. American oil companies have had it great under Republican economists and have reaped the benefit of unprecedented profits at the expense of the average working American, who now is being rewarded for his vote and support by having his/her job “outsourced,” again, all in the name of private sector efficiency. George Bush is so out of touch with what’s happening to the average working man that he made an even bigger fool out of himself at one of his recent press conferences when he actually admitted he hadn’t heard the price of gas was going to hit $4.00/gallon. And to add insult to injury, the US Air Force has just announced awarding a multi-million dollar contract to a French aerospace company and outsourcing the work, again, at the expense, this time, of 40,000-plus American airline industry workers.

Republican elected and appointed offocials are going to pay for all of this in 2008.

Harry Truman once said,”If you want to live like a Republican, you better vote as a Democrat.”

By MomCat

March 10, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

By Dumb March 10, 2008 8:09 AM Get a better car with gas mileage, ride a bike, use Marta. This cartoon is dumb. Let’s drill in the U.S., sorry I forgot the Bush haters will not let us drill here, but want to still blame him for high gas prices, morons.

I’m checking in late (for the first time in whenever), but do you know where most of that Alaskan oil goes????????

By Georgia 74

March 10, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

At least Spitzer’s little faus pax was with a woman.

By Likkkoduh Loves Dick Cheney

March 10, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney.

Although I wouldn’t leave a daughter with him - one of his is a d-yke, for Chrissake.

(Thankfully, I have no children.)

By W stands for worst

March 10, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

RB-

Nope, i can tell because his mouth is moving…..

By MomCat

March 10, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

By N-GA March 10, 2008 9:37 AM | At these prices we make more money by selling the oil to Japan, China, Korea, etc.

You’re on target N-GA! MONEY MONEY MONEY $$$

By Copyleft March 10, 2008 9:44 AM Jimmy Carter tried to tell us, three decades ago, to get over our selfish oil habits and learn to conserve

Remember Jimmy Carter? Unhuh, these wingnuts will be pootin their 9xxx panties and size 42W BVD’s in a few years, trying to take credit for some of JC’s ideas!!!!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Fry Spitzer

Being a john is illegal too!

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I really don’t like Jimmy Buffet - damn old hippy singing about pot, drinking, and cheeseburgers. That was one of the weirdest damn concerts I’ve ever been to - drunk, and I mean, druuuuunnnnnk women screaming at the top of their lungs “Why don’t we get drunk, and screw!”

RB,

No, I wouldn’t let my children go play at the house of a convicted child molester. What does that have to do with the question I asked you? Are you now insinuating (again, ?sp) that Bill Clinton is a convicted child molester? Or even a suspected child molester? Man, you are way out there. Again, it’s better to just admit that you hate the man because you certainly are digging a hole for yourself.

@@,

Dam mussels - chuckle, chuckle. I’ve read some things about the “evil” oil companies doing research like this - I think that is promising. After all, they have alot of money to develop such fuels. I rode by Lake Altoona this weekend - it had WATER!!!! Oh my goodness. It was a welcome sight.

Another chuckle for me, but turbo microbes? I’m sorry, but when you mention turbo and methane together, it just makes me laugh. Sorry, sorry, I live with teenagers - who, by the way, could really assist those microbes with their methane production.

I heard some economist (I think from Duke) on NPR yesterday talking about commodities and other things and if I’m not mistaken, she said that the price of wheat and grains have risen 350% in the past year (I was half asleep when I heard this). I hope microbe methane isn’t as expensive as corn.

I still want monorails though and bike paths too.

By MomCat

March 10, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

By Copyleft March 10, 2008 10:42 AM I wonder how many in Obama’s truck-driving audience had flags and yellow ribbons on those trucks, and would call themselves “proud supporters of the war on terror”? Until they’re asked to make some sort of Personal Sacrifice, that is. Then their true colors show… and they sure aren’t red, white, and blue.

You’re right on! We ABSOLUTELY CANNOT GO ON with this crazy war! Don’t even go there with this patriotic cr@*. I’m about a zillion times more patriotic than these neocon crazies. We NEED THE DRAFT! Please, please reinstitute the draft! This time no exceptions! No “I’m in college” crap, or “She’s a female” crap. I didn’t say place sugar plum silly on the front lines, there’s many other things she can do! START THE DRAFT!!! See how the song and dance changes then!!!!

By AmVet

March 10, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

Always on high alert for “conservative” scientific BS, I thought I’d check out this Heartland Institute and their “Manhattan Declaration”.

The conference website billed it as “a gathering of skeptics”.

NO WAY! These are….ahem….professionals.

Apparently however, out of the 500 or so attendees, only about 10% (perhaps less) were not economists, policy makers and business leaders, as well as the always enjoyable euphemism “researchers in related fields”.

Apparently there is no new or valuable scientific information that they provided. None. Nada. Nary. In fact I could not find one scintilla of relevant data to bolster their largely repudiated beliefs.

I guess the “non-consensus” (Ha!) data wasn’t available!

And this gem was actually in the Declaration: “Noting that warmer weather is generally less harmful to life on Earth than colder”.

Talk about grasping at straws!

But apparently these “experts” determined via the scientific method (of course)”… there is no convincing evidence that CO2 emissions from modern industrial activity has in the past, is now, or will in the future cause catastrophic climate change.”

Gluttons for punishment, and their ignorant supporters, that will not play any significant part of the future decisions being made by a more rational humanity…

By Clerk Kant

March 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Robin! Robin! Robin!! Please don’t provide personal info re yourself. This blog is filled with neocon goons who are terrified of and despise women of every age and form. They are capable of anything, under cover of darkness, especially if they think you are weak & endangered. Mail, phone calls, drive-by damage to you & your home. Careful!! I offer as examples here: RB, @@, RW, ajc mgt/homoduh.

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Shame on Spitzer - I guess Lou Dobbs will be ecstatic over this news.

By AmVet

March 10, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

One of the big muckety mucks in the RNCC, Karen Hanretty, said that Hastert losing his pork-barrelled seat to a newbie Democrat did not represent a “bellwether for this fall”.

Dream on lady!

You neo-cons are going to continued to get smoked. And rightfully so.

ITN your 12:18 (portions of which follow below) attest to an ironic situtation. Suffering through the Rovespierre years took a HUGE toll on the already shaky integrity of our government, but his handiwork, and his fellow thugs, will ultimately spell disaster for this non-conservative conservative GOP.

{Karl Rove, former senior aide to President Bush, spoke to a hostile crowd at the University of Iowa yesterday evening. Students and local citizens protested his appearance at the university and “staged a mock trial” for Rove inside the student union before the speech.}

{During the lecture, Rove lashed out at hostile questioners, telling one man his comment showed “a simple, stupid mind” and chastised what he said were “stupid statements” from the audience. Rove also said that former Amb. Joseph Wilson “lied” about his 2002 trip to Niger and accused an audience member of “perpetuating libel” on the U.S. military for asking about the real number of deaths in the Iraq war.}

I wonder if the porcine slimeball asked himself, “Is this Heaven?”

“No, it’s Iowa”!

By N-GA

March 10, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Oil topped $108/bbl today to set a new inflation-adjusted record.

The stock market is down further with the DJIA at 11,760. January set a new record for personal bankruptcies, even after congressional action a couple of years ago to make it more difficult to use bankruptcy to hide from debt obligations.

And billionaire investor Wilbur Ross believes that this economic downturn won’t go away anytime soon. Mr. Ross sees U.S. bank failures ahead.

IMO the only thing that kept the US markets elevated this long has been overseas investors needing to reinvest nearly worthless dollars into something. Afterall, even General Electric will survive this administrations idiotic economic policies.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

AmVet

That Foster beat the “Milk Man” in Illinois is HUGE.

Oberweiss was the dairy-heir!

By Bosch

March 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

Oh no. The Pope has expanded the sin list.

Genetic manipulation is a sin now (well, according to the big man). So, I guess if a child is known to have genetic abnormalities that could be fixed in the womb through medical technology, then that’s a sin now?

See, this is why I find religion so taxing sometimes.

By Spitzer likes Lot Lizards

March 10, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

With or without the lot—>~~

Maybe he’ll bring ethics to the jail house?

At least he’ll have “lots” of friends there.

Boyfriends, that is.

By Apocalypse

March 10, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Obama leading in all catagories While the Clinton Campaign continues to brag about big state wins, let us look closely at these so called “big state wins”. Here are the top nine contests.

State Obama Clinton California 2,126,000 2,553,000 Texas 1,358,000 1,459,000 New York 698,000 1,003,000 Illinois 1,302,000 662,000 Ohio 982,000 1,212,000 Georgia 704,000 330,000 New Jersey 492,000 603,000 Virginia 627,000 350,000 Washington 354,000 316,000

Final Total 8,643,000 8,487,000

Now that you see actual numbers, look at the poor showing in Clinton’s own home state of New York. Again, goes back to why she had to run ads in her backyard and Obama did not. He did not have the pressure, heat from the Clinton ground swell in his backyard, as Clinton did hers.

Now everyone understands why the large 125+ pledged delegate advantage that Obama has over Clinton. Her campaign went dark, virtually dead while she allowed Obama to run the table on her and run the numbers up on her for 12 straight loses, thus she will never catch up unless she has a 60/40 split on every single election from here on out. It won’t happen.

Also, remember that in the machine driven states, meaning top/down states that Clinton won, it was due to influenced by the old style politics of being chit driven, i.e., Ohio, New Jersey and the mayor of Los Angeles. Using their machine and getting the vote out. It was not driven by people powered politics of the roots. Is this a good way to win elections? Yes. It is the old fashioned normal way of doing things, but the result is the end result. They were unable to blow Obama out of the water on Super Tuesday of February 5th and Jr. Super Tuesday of March 4th. Again, he stayed close enough and won big elsewhere to offset any Clinton win.

So, what is this really about? Perception Politics. That is what this is about. The Clinton Campaign floating around that they will accept Barack Obama as their VP candidate, when in reality, it is she who is craving to be on the ticket with Obama, not the other way around. Why? How?

Obama leads Clinton as follows:

a) Delegates b) Primaries c) Caucuses d) Money Raised e) Donors f) Votes from big states g) Popular votes h) Senator endorsements i) Governor endorsements j) Most states won

source: http://thisweekwithbarackobama.blogspot. com/

By Eliot Spitzer, DemoKrat

March 10, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. “It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Bright Side! It takes the drivers licenses for illegals issue off the table!

—Josh Marshall

By Ralph

March 10, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Ummm. The Neocon Moron Belt is active here today.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Fox is reporting Spitzer to resign at 7 tonight.

David Paterson: New York’s Next Governor?

By getalife

March 10, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Spitzer.

Dude.

Busted like Vitter because they spy on you.

Ouch.

By Apocalypse

March 10, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

NC and MS Superdelegates Endorse Obama Today! North Carolina Superdelegate: Joyce Brayboy has endorsed Barack Obama.

The Democratic superdelegate, whose day job is as a Washington, D.C.-based lobbyist, made the decision recently.

Previously, she told Dome that she would study both candidates’ electability and their stances on health care and education before making a decision. U.S. Rep. G.K. Butterfield and two other superdelegates, Everett Ward and Dannie Montgomery, are also backing Obama…

Mississippi Superdelegate: Jackson, MS – Today, Mississippi Superdelegate and Democratic National Committee Member Everett Sanders endorsed Barack Obama, citing his plan to provide affordable health care coverage to every American, improve education and his leadership on Katrina.

Mr. Sanders said, “I believe Senator Barack Obama is the best choice to lead our nation today and bring change that we can believe in here in Mississippi and across the country. He has a plan to provide affordable health care coverage to every single American and put tax cuts in the pockets of middle class families. He believes that every single child in our country deserves a world class education and has fought to make higher education more affordable in the United States Senate, increasing Pell Grants and securing better recognition for our HBCU’s and black colleges. He has a plan to help the Gulf Coast rebuild and has fought for the victims of Katrina here in Mississippi, passing legislation to investigate toxic trailers and leading the way for more funding for Katrina rebuilding. I’m proud to support Senator Obama in this campaign.”

By getalife

March 10, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

$3100 per hour.

Talk about sticker shock.

Geez.

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

RW/DUH @ 4:06

“IN THE NOOSE”

That’s great!

You’ll be left hanging in November!

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Bring us Vice President Clarence Thomas

Hey drive thru constitutional scholar would Thomas have to resign from the Supreme Court to run?

By RW-(the original)

March 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Obsession thy name is IT(H)FS. Newsboy, when the fever swamps start telling you that Karl Rove planted that hooker under Spitzer are you going to believe them?

getalife 4:16,

Even your old hangouts didn’t ring up a tab like that.

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

Gosh, up until about an hour ago, every neo-conman or woman worth their salt ABSOLUTELY HATED THE NEW YORK TIMES!!

I guess they all love it now that a Dem. has been caught with his “hand” in the cookie jar.”

Selective memory, I guess!?!

TM

By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS

March 10, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Here’s a real funny one…..

{{{By RW-(the original)

March 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Obsession thy name is IT(H)FS. Newsboy, when the fever swamps start telling you that Karl Rove planted that hooker under Spitzer are you going to believe them?}}}}

RW/DUH

funny how you just appear……as if out of the mists

I repeat for the umpteeth time… you use the word obsession as if it were a magical mystical shield for all your personalities.

WRONG

Personally I think the only hooker that ever got close to Karl Rove was Jeff Gannon/Guekert.

How many times did he sign into the white house?

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

It’s stupidity such as that that makes me glad I hung up the old choir robe and disassociated myself from religion.

How can anybody take it seriously when it constantly takes backwards steps (although the SBC did agree that Global Warming is man-made…finally).

No God? Know Peace!!

By AmVet

March 10, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Clarence “Carter” (I stroke it to the east And I stroke it to the west”) Thomas for VP?!

On whose ticket? Alan “Gimme them White House” Keyes?!

Their advisors and cabinet?

Michael “Man of” Steele, Condi “reprised” Rice, Larry “I’m no Dem” Elder, Thomas “I got” Sowell, Michelle “I’m gonna get you Sucker” Malkin (token Asian) and Mann “Where do I vote?” Coulter (white fly girl).

And in a real shocker, a “reformed” Anita Hill serves as Sexretary of the Posterior.

By RW-(the original)

March 10, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

IT(H)FS,

There’s a thing called work that adults often do. That doesn’t allow them to sit in cartoon blog spamming it all day. I post under one name and one name only and the only two reasons you claim that isn’t true is 1) because you aren’t up to the task of debating an issue with me and 2) you’re obsessed with me. I’m not omnipresent, trust me IT(H)FS.

Are you sure going after Spitzer’s little hooker ring wasn’t some politically motivated investigation based on some federal attorney firings? HAHAHAHAHA

I guarantee you that before this is a month old you’ll be defending him. Personally I don’t see why prostitution is illegal anyway. How can it be a crime to charge money for something that it’s perfectly legal to give away for free?

By AJC Management

March 10, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Truthmoron March 10, 2008 4:42 PM Gosh, up until about an hour ago, every neo-conman or woman worth their salt ABSOLUTELY HATED THE NEW YORK TIMES!!}}}}

Look, I know you aren’t that smart but I seriously doubt if the NY Times staged that news conference, you know what I mean?

And look who’s calling the kettle black, you goony libs have had a regular celebration here today because the formerly backwoods Baptists are all of a sudden noted climatologists.

GFY (good for you.)

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

RW…Good point!!

Of course, that would mean Ken starr and the neo-con wasted millions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of man-hours trying to impeach Clinton because he got a Jewish chick to suck his “Hebrew National” for free, right!?!

By Climate Change

March 10, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

CHICAGO — Candidates recommended by a political fundraiser had the inside track to seats on Illinois boards that control millions of dollars in state money, a woman formerly in charge of processing such appointments for the Blagojevich administration testified Monday.

Antoin “Tony” Rezko once called Jill Hayden and told her to put a rush on the reappointment of millionaire attorney Stuart Levine to a state pension board now awash in corruption charges, Hayden told Rezko’s political fraud trial.

Hayden previously was in charge of processing appointments to state boards and commissions in Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s administration.

When she told Rezko she needed permission from a higher-up to rush Levine’s reappointment, he laughed and said she could go ahead because it was “a done deal,” Hayden testified Monday.

Earlier Monday, defense attorneys introduced a memo from a Blagojevich adviser, Matthew Pickering, to attorney Susan Lichtenstein, who had served as the governor’s general counsel. The memo said that after legislation was passed restructuring the health facilities planning board early in Blagojevich’s term, a number of legislators and other officials, including Sen. Barack Obama, were consulted on how to set up the board.

Damn it’s hot!

By Truthman

March 10, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Dunce,

Of course they didn’t stage a news conference. They just reported the event, just as they did when Hatemonger Hagee endorsed McCain, just as they did when the U.S. Attorneys were fired because the didn’t prosecute enough Democrats before the 2006 mid-term elections, and just as they did when the Chimperor lied to get us into a war for oil.

You can’t have it both ways, although you certainly try!!!

GFY (not Good For You!)

By RW-(the original)

March 10, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Truth?man,

The investigation that revealed the details of Clinton’s proclivities for porking interns had nothing to do with that to start with. I’m sure you know that which definitely calls your moniker into question.

By ME2

March 10, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

They are not prejudiced. Just the opposite, in fact. As educated people, they are acutely aware of the horrible injustices blacks have suffered at the hands of whites. But the fact that they’ve never really known any black people, and have quite deliberately set themselves up in lifestyles that would almost certainly preclude them from getting to know any, instills in them a kind of guilt because they are, after all, very liberal, and therefore see themselves as being responsible for righting all the wrongs of this world.

Over the past six months, these vermin have combined to turn what was a certain Democratic victory in November into a question mark. The party itself is so badly fractured that the likelihood of everyone forgetting about what was said and done in time to unite against John McCain seems remote.

That’s the Obama coalition and, except for the black people, I don’t think I want any part of it. It’s about enough to make me support McCain myself, as a matter of fact.

By AmVet

March 10, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

Curly, funny, but I can’t think of anything that southern Baptists are particularly noted for. Certainly anything relevant and important like climatology.

But apparently the SBC just finally got tired of acting like willfully stupid ostriches on the topic of man-induced global warming for no good reason.

And even though many of their rank and file, garden-variety neo-cons probably hate this “liberal” decision, they’re probably smart enough to know that the easily manipulated “faithful” will stick with them (and keep filling the coffers) no matter what. Just like they did twice with this bumbling President.

Here’s an idea: get a petition going and fire them!

Hey, at least they’ve finally joined most of the rest of humanity in this “consensus”. (Sorry, I know you hate that word!)

Good on them.

By IN THE (Hussein)NEWS

March 10, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

RW/Duh/Noose/Headcase/Etc

You is what you is……a variety of personalities all damn day.

And like your leader(s) you are a liar.

(Hurry and whip up some phony outrage now)

I would suggest the obsessive one is he who posts all day, every day with a standard cast of characters and some “walk ons”.

But as you have noted in the past, that IS your area of expertise.

Ain’t that right little Ricky?

Bill Moyers’ Journal: How The Republican Party Lost Its Way

Y’all have a good night.

By Congressman Barney Frank, DemoKrat

March 10, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

I am here to announce that I am starting an Eliot Spitzer prostitution defense fund and will be donating half of the proceeds from the underage male prostitution business I run out of my basement.

I strongly believe in the ethical tone Mr. Spitzer has brought to the great state of New York, shaking down legitimate businesses, extorting large companies and cohercing the successful corporations that have made New York the haven for the prostitutes, both male and female, that we all enjoy so very much.

I believe that Mr. Spitzer has been wronged by this legal wiretap issued by a judge, that is not how we conduct law enforcement in the demokrat led country of America, no, we use the front page of the NY Times and Kongressional Kangaroo Kommittees to harass our enemies, never bringing charges against them, cause well, we don’t have anything to charge them with.

But it’s exciting to waste taxpayers dollars and our make our idiot voters slobber and drool.

We would never stoop to spying on an innocent transaction with a prostitute.

That’s disgusting.

Really, really disgusting.

So come on by my house and tappity-tap-tap on my back door and I’ll hook you up with some sweet young tender little demokrat boy.

All proceeds to a worthwhile cause.

By RW-(the original)

March 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

{{{{{But as you have noted in the past, that IS your area of expertise.}}}}}-By Stalker IT(H)FS

I’ll bet you couldn’t even begin to back that up anymore them you could the other day when you said you knew me and everything about me. Care to try, stalker?

getalife,

It seems you were price cutting earlier today. The ones with seven diamonds went for $5,500.00 an hour.

By Likkkoduh Loves Dick Cheney

March 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney… ;>~~~

$3100???

That’s over a thousand times what my mama charges!!

By Likkkoduh Loves Dick Cheney

March 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

$3100???

The man must really like p - , er women…

Me? I love Dick Cheney.

With or without the Cheney. ;>~~~~

Hey, I’m a Repub. Don’t call me gay though.

I’m whatever it is Larry Craig is.

By AmVet

March 10, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

ME2, very interesting read. And as I once lived on Grand Island (essentially a suburb of Niagara Falls) I was intrigued how a reporter from a dead blue, NY above everything else, would see this.

Predictably.

Some very good points were made but IMHO the guy lost almost all of his credibility with the shop-worn excuse that Ralph Nader cost Gore the White House.

Please!

It is WAY past time to quit falling back on these silly, almost childish, excuses and just admit he was the weaker candidate, with ENORMOUS Clinton baggage! And if the Dems had run even a decent candidate either time, they would have beaten Bush easily. Easily.

Instead they couldn’t. Didn’t. And we got Curious George for eight years.

Thanks western NY…

By Likkkoduh Loves Dick Cheney

March 10, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Now it’s $5500???

Damn, you know how many &%& I’d have to &%(^ to make $5500???

Not that I’d mind ;>~~~~

By Spitzer likes Lot Lizards

March 10, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

With or without the lot —-> ~>

That boy is going to go down haarrrrrrd.

And I ain’t talking about down on some high price hooker.

People will be lining up to get a shot at that a$$.

For free.

By Paul

March 10, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Amazing, isn’t it? Offer to pay, go to jail. Barter, and you’re home free.

Remember Hugh Grant with the hooker in the Beemer? Mike Royko, late of the Chicago Sun Times, wrote a great column about why Hollywood was horrified. Because he broke the rules! See, you’re supposed to throw a big party, invite a bunch of people, look for the hangers-on, pick one or two, fly them to Europe for the weekend, go to a great hotel, spend a few grand every few hours on food, drink, shopping, shopping, shopping.

Grant broke the rules: he bargain-shopped.

It’s a business transaction.

Here’s my nickel: geez.

By @@

March 10, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Consider this! Sadr extends the cease-fire in Iraq and then abandons his leadership of the Mehdi Army. Withdraws to Iran to study although there are also reports that he’s been poisoned and is in a coma, which I don’t believe. Another report quoted him as saying “he’s tired and under a great deal of stress.”

Hezbollah is suspicious that the Syrian regime was complicit, if not solely reponsible for the death of their leader Muginiyah. The U.S. is having behind-the-scenes meetings with Assad in Syria.

Arab countries are confused as to why the U.S. didn’t protest Ahmadenijad’s visit to Iraq.

So what, if anything, might be going on?

A plausible theory to follow albeit in bits and pieces…..

By Likkkoduh Loves Dick Cheney

March 10, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney.

Going down hard? That’d be me.

Likkkoduh. Oh yeah baby.

Bring it on!

By @@

March 10, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

(((A secret deal? One issue that puzzles the Sunni Arab mind and raises eyebrows in the Arab Gulf is if the Americans are the de facto rulers of Iraq, why then are they turning a blind eye to Iranian influence in Iraq? How can the Iranians make such a grand appearance in Baghdad while the USS Cole is stationed in Lebanese waters, directly threatening Hezbollah, and while Israeli planes are bombing the Palestinians and Hamas, who are another Iranian proxy in the Arab world?)))

By Paul

March 10, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

@@

“there are also reports that he’s (Sadr) been poisoned and is in a coma, which I don’t believe.”

Have a little faith! Keep hoping for good things to happen! Don’t give up!

By @@

March 10, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

(((One Iranian analyst observed: “Iran still believes that it has the luxury of time on its side. They think that the US is not really interested in war but want maximum results from the Iranians, without war. They know that any US attack that does not break the Iranian regime will only make it stronger.” He adds, “For years, they used their influence to create havoc in Iraq, waiting for the minute when the US becomes so desperate that it calls on Iran to help control Iraq, a-la Syria in Lebanon-1976.”)))

(((This means, the Iranians are waiting for the Americans to invite them to send troops to Iraq to help bring security. The Iranians, after all, know the terrain well. They are bound to Iraqi Shi’ites by religion and geographical proximity, in addition to inter-marriage, customs and history, just like the Syrians were to the Lebanese when they sent their army into Lebanon in 1976.)))

Keep in mind that McCain has no qualms about taking on Iran. Strategic hits, it’s been said, would prove to be devastating for an already shaky regime.

more….

By @@

March 10, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Paul:

(((Have a little faith! Keep hoping for good things to happen! Don’t give up!)))

You tickle me….not literally, but you know…

The claim of poisoning could be a ploy by Sadr. Right now his Mehdi bunch is so fractured, he’s lost control. If he dies a martyr (I’m assuming poisoning qualifies) it could bring about an uprising or maybe not. It remains to be seen.

More to follow. I’m putting puzzle pieces together.

By Glenn

March 10, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Well, @@,

Looks like it’s being Democratic that means never having to say you’re sorry. Spitzer gave one of those Clintonian unapologies, saying in a manner that would make Bill’s hair blush, that he had “disappointed” his own “sense of right and wrong”.

Get that? The man’s longsuffering SENSE was disappointed! One more disappointment like that and the Governor could be disappointed SENSELESS!

Conspicuously lacking from his remarks upon the subject of his criminal conspiracy—-which remarks the obligingly lazy porch-rockin’ media already are happy to call an “apology”—-lacking from his comments was any mention of whether he recognizes that he HAS DONE SOMETHING OF WHICH HE IS NOT PROUD.

Details from Dr. Phil at 11:00.

By Paul

March 10, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

@@

“Keep in mind that McCain has no qualms about taking on Iran. Strategic hits, it’s been said, would prove to be devastating for an already shaky regime.”

Do they have a source for that opinion? He’s taken on a couple of foreign policy advisors that just might give one pause.

I’d have to urge extreme caution in that regards. The only scenario that could remotely bring forth such action is a nuke acquisition - and in that instance, the pronouncements of McCain, Obama and Hillary are interchangeable.

Historically, military action against a country with a despised regime has generally strengthened the regime by directing popular ire outwards. Russians fought for Mother Russia against the Nazis - not for Joseph Stalin. I believe you’ve written in the past regarding the widespread discontent with Ahmadinejad. Other avenues should be explored - but it does get difficult - just in the last week or two here there were reports of secret operations to stir dissent against the Iranian regime - conveniently reported by the US media.

By @@

March 10, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

(((This theory might be on Ahmadinejad’s mind, but it would be madness to believe that the Americans will even consider such an option, with so much luggage on their shoulders in US-Iranian relations. They would rather talk to other parties, like the Syrians or Saudi Arabians, than plead to the Iranians for such assistance. The first theory sounds more reasonable, being that for now, the Iranians agreed to turn a blind eye to their proxies in the Arab world, in exchange for a free hand in Iraq.)))

Another “keeper” in the mind. Have they turned a blind eye? or have they lost control as Sadr’s abandonment may, or may not indicate. The U.S. hasn’t talked with them. The Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani didn’t talk with them while in Iraq.

(((There is considerable alarm in Iran that the days of Hezbollah and Hamas are numbered. Both parties have outlived their usefulness, Hezbollah after the passing of UN Resolution 1701 that brought about the end of the war against Israel in southern Lebanon in 2006 and Hamas after its failed experience in government since 2006 and the seizure of Gaza in 2007.)))

By RW-(the original)

March 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

Paul,

The barter system violates most prostitution statutes too. Free is the key here.

By Glenn

March 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

In all seriousness, Paul, the McCain camp may be toying with dusting off the old “Mad Man Thesis” to keep our adversaries in check during a McCain tenure.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 10, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

By Truthman 12:05 PM

{{{RB, yes I know embassies are “sovereign territory,” but I believe it was mostly Kenyans and Tanzanians working at our embassies who were killed. Something like 200-300 vs. 12 Americans.}}}

So, the terrorists went to the US Embassy in Kenya to blow up Kenyans and not Americans? Why not go downtown where there are lots of Kenyans if that was the plan?

You’re a COMPLETE idiot.

Pathetic.

By @@

March 10, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

Paul:

All that has to exist to overthrow Ahmadenijad is the possibility, and in the Iranian mind, that alone is reason to oust Ahmadenijad. McCain presents that as a possibility. Ahmadenijad is manipulating elections. How are the people going to respond to that?

It’s psychological warfare.

Now quit interrupting me, I’m working on my puzzle. (ISH) <—-Insert smile here.

Dang, now look what you’ve done….

I’m out of time. Maybe tomorrow.

Glenn:

I’m all the way around the world. Who’s Spitzer? (ISTYT) <—-Insert smile to you too.

By Artie Sammish

March 10, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this

What’s the difference between a Democratic governor and a high-priced call girl?

A: The IRS will let you deduct contributions to the governor.

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