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By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
Pretty good cartoon boy.
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{{{{One Obama supporter on Root.com apparently didn’t get the memo. That is the great threat to the Clintons, the number of young and independent Democrats who haven’t received the memo about how Democrats speak of the Clintons. Writer Mark Q. Sawyer: “If Obama won’t hit back, I will. Why aren’t we talking about impeachment, Whitewater and Osama?”}}}}
That’s exactly right. Billy had his shots a Has Bin Laden, BEFORE 9/11, and he passed on them.
This is the kind of “experience” we want answering the “red phone” at 3 a.m?
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I told you this a long time ago and, as usual, I was right; the demokkkrats are going to lie, cheat and steal until they are rid of the black man:
{{{{Countdown 2008: ROAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE: New votes in Michigan, Florida —->urged.<—- Another option could count delegates that had been nixed because of early Democratic primaries.-Urinal, URGES!, Urges!!! I tell you, geez.}}}}
Making up the rules as you go and unrepresented superdelegates, all designed to keep the uppity black man I n his proper place.
Watch and see, as what I say unfolds.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this
{{{{When it comes to creating new jobs, Obama looks to government again and still more spending. He proposes to spend $150 billion supposedly creating 2 million jobs building new “green technologies” for which there is apparently no market demand.}}}}
So the government is going to create a demand for “green technologies” and with it form 2,000,000 new government jobs with a budget of “15 billion.”
Huh?
{{{{Hillary’s response to this litany of big government spending programs is to accuse Obama of stealing all of her best ideas.}}}}
An unprecedented expansion of their beloved bureaucracy is all this is.
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{{{{Can someone quote me an original idea by Hillary Clinton upon any subject of diplomatic or military interest? The fact that she went along with some of our tough stands in Afghanistan and Iraq just shows she can listen to reason now and then; it does not crown her as a genius. What else is there to cite in support of this putative wisdom? When has she stood out from the pack and made a unique mark for herself with any inspired initiative, save the health-care catastrophe in 1993? Say what you want about John McCain’s positions, but they do show individuality.}}}}
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{{{{The definition of insanity: speeding up when there is a sea of brake lights in front of you.-Urinal Vent}}}}
Definition of a traffic jam: Maintaining a distance of a half of a mile or more between yourself and that “sea of brake lights.”
Do your brakes not work, moron?
Did this car “speeding up” crash into the “sea of brake lights” or did they stop in time?
The very obvious that the very clueless are unable to comprehend: If you do not go then neither do the 500,000 cars piled up behind you, mouth breather.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
{{{{What do I think is the biggest reason Mrs. Clinton came back? She kept her own spirits up to the point of denial and worked it, hard, every day. She is hardy, resilient, tough. She is a train on a track, an Iron Horse. But we must not become carried away with generosity. The very qualities that impress us are the qualities that will make her a painful president. She does not care what you think, she will have what she wants, she will not do the feints, pivots and backoffs that presidents must. She is neither nimble nor agile, and she knows best. She will wear a great nation down.}}}}
{{{{I end with a deadly, deadpan prediction from Christopher Hitchens. Hillary is the next president, he told radio’s Hugh Hewitt, because, “there’s something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power … people who don’t want the meeting to end, the people who just are unstoppable, who only have one focus, no humanity, no character, nothing but the worship of money and power. They win in the end.”}}}}
{{{{It was like Claude Rains summing up the meaning of everything in the film “Lawrence of Arabia”: “One of them’s mad and the other is wholly unscrupulous.” It’s the moment when you realize you just heard the truth, the meaning underlying all the drama. “They win in the end.” Gave me a shudder.-Peggy Noonan}}}}
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 7, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
In an astounding show of support, more than 500 Tennessee Democrats have arranged to change their middle names to Hussein in protest of the state GOP’s efforts to stigmatize Barack Obama because of his middle name.
Do you think we’ll see new names here like….
RMcSameW?
@McSame@?
AJCMcSameManagement?
LuckuMcSameDuh?
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 7, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
AP Poll: More say they’re Democrats…..The poll showed 52 percent call themselves Democrats, up from 45 percent in an AP-Ipsos survey in mid-December. Thirty-five percent say they are Republicans, about the same as December’s 37 percent.
By IN THE (Hussein) NEWS
March 7, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this
How John McCain may GET your vote. The New York Times announced Monday that defense contractor United Technologies had made an unsolicited bid to take control of Diebold, the voting machine manufacturer. UTC first approached Diebold two years ago, but thankfully Diebold has and continues to reject its offers. But the most interesting and frightening part of this story is in the connection between the attempted takeover of a voting machine manufacturer and the Republican candidate John McCain.
By @@
March 7, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this
O-:MG ml, you’re a Dick Morris hack.
Whodathunkit.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 7, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
This was a good one. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. However, Obama’s foreign policy advisor let it slip yesterday that neither Hitlery nor Obama are ready to be Commander-in-Chief. That is revealing.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
{{{{Second, Obama can’t “test” Clinton the way she can test him. While she likes to claim that she beat the Republican attack machine, it’s more accurate to say that she survived with heavy damage. Clinton is a wildly polarizing figure, with disapproval ratings at or near 50 percent. But, because she earned the intense loyalty of core Democratic partisans, Obama has to tread gingerly around her vulnerabilities. There is a big bundle of ethical issues from the 1990s that Obama has not raised because he can’t associate himself with what partisan Democrats (but not Republicans or swing voters) regard as a pure GOP witch hunt.}}}}
Yep and when he does, which he surely will and has already started to do, it validates everything that the Republicans said in the 1990’s.
We Were Right, bwa.
Now, looking ahead, does anyone really believe that a future Republican presidential candidate would ever use the “attorney general firings” against, let’s say, Jeb Bush?
Puh-leeze.
By candide
March 7, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
On the phone or off the phone this country cannot survive another Clinton in power.
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Obama won Texas!!!!!
3/6/08 estimates of delegate counts from Texas are:
100 Obama (62 primary/38 caucus),
93 Clinton (64 primary/29 caucus).
YES WE DID!
By Dubya
March 7, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
And so the ugly, homophobic Republican machine of inbred wealthy and it’s 90% of wannabes & pretenders is collapsing, failed, fractured into warring factions,after stealing 2 elections for Bushbrain. Now comes stumbling John W. McBush midst the Iraq smoking wreckage and the recession nightmare and the worldwide detestation of Uncle Sam. McBush has trouble uttering a coherent statement which fails to offend…anyone. So the Repugs will resort back to Middle east fears and attacks upon Merka, and, of course, the race & gender cards. Prideful people, these. God Bluss Murka. Allah Akbar!
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 7, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Candide - if Obama or Clinton is elected, then the country will survive, just as we survived the Dummy Carter (mis)Administration and the Clintax years. Their ineptitude and inability to actually push through their hair-brained schemes will doom them, as it did in the past. The Republicans will come roaring back in the mid-term elections and in the presidential elections afterward. It will be like 1980 and 1994 all over again. We will survive because we are the greatest and most resilient people in the world because we believe in freedom.
Also, I read here yesterday and confirmed by doing a little research that when election day has been on the 4th of November since 1924, the Republicans have won (and handily) each time, and they have also won the succeeding election as well. So fear not, we shall prevail!
By Bill Paul
March 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
At least,Luckovich FINALY got one right! But having a blow-hard like Obama answer the red phone would be even worse. He would say, “Please don’t launch your missile just yet; I’ll come confer with you at your place at your pleasure “
By Bill Paul
March 7, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
At least,Luckovich FINALY got one right! But having a blow-hard like Obama answer the red phone would be even worse. He would say, “Please don’t launch your missile just yet; I’ll come confer with you at your place at your pleasure “
By Devastator
March 7, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
Actually, the red phone probably wouldn’t ring if Obama was in charge.
No country would dare challenge a “brotha” in office.
By Clyde
March 7, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
How many different names must homoDUH utilize, pray tell? Now he’s “AJC mgt” as well. What is he trying to escape from? Why? It’s impossible to mistake his homoerotical hatred no matter what name (it) uses. Get a grip, loser-boy. The old homoDUH was better than the new one. Ask mommy to restore your name.
By Abomi Nation
March 7, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
It was 3am eastern time where Hillary was awakened with the phone call.
It was only 2am where the phone call was made. George W’s ranch is in Texas which is Central time.
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
Candidates Schedules for 3/7
Friday, March 7
10:30 amHillary Clinton attends a “Solutions For America” town hall in Hattiesburg, Mississippi
11:25 am
Laura Bush delivers remarks at a USAID celebration of International Women’s Day in Washington, D.C.
12:00 pm
Bill Clinton speaks before Philadelphia’s Democratic ward leaders on behalf of his wife
1:15 pm
President Bush meets with a family of Cuban political prisoners in the Oval Office. It’s followed by a statement on Cuba
2:00 pm
Bill Clinton attends a “Solutions for America” event in Media, Pennsylvania** * 4:00 pm * Barack Obama holds a “Stand for Change” town hall meeting in Casper, Wyoming
4:30 pmHillary Clinton attends a “Solutions for America” town hall in Cheyenne, Wyoming
7:30 pm
Bill Clinton hosts a Mississippi fish fry in Tupelo
8:30 pm
Hillary Clinton attends a “Solutions for America” town hall in Casper, Wyoming** * 9:15 pm * Barack Obama holds a “Stand for Change” rally meeting in Laramie, Wyoming
By tiff
March 7, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
I hate to say it Bill Paul but I would rather have a president who is willing to talk and solve problems diplomatically, rather than be a war-monger. If Obama would be willing to sit down and talk rather than fire missiles that shows he has a brain in his head, and knows it is more sensible to negotiate rather than fight. It says he can use common sense (unlike another president I won’t name). It says he is not willing to go to war killing thousands of men, women, children and American soldiers. If he has those qualities.
THEN HE”S GOT MY VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Copyleft
March 7, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
I see Headcase is still doing situps under parked cars. That’s the only explanation for his endless embrace of the talk-radio lies, in this case about Susan Rice’s comment.
“He hasn’t claimed that he’s been in a position to have to answer the phone at 3 o’clock in the morning in a crisis situation. That’s the difference between the two of them. Hillary Clinton hasn’t had to answer the phone at 3 o’clock in the morning. And yet she attacked Barack Obama for not being ready. They’re both not ready to have that 3:00 a.m. phone call.
The question is and what Barack Obama raised is, when that phone call is received for each of them for the first time, who’s going to make the right judgment? Who is going to make the right decision?”
In other words, NOBODY is ready for that call. It’s not possible to be. The only thing you can ask is, who’s best qualified to use good judgment when that call comes?
Of course, carefully quoting Rice out of context gives the talknazis another handy soundbite to screech about… and for their braindead fans, like Headcase, to lap up and beg for more.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
{{{{By Clyde March 7, 2008 10:09 AM How many different names must homoDUH utilize, pray tell?}}}}
How many different names must Clyduh utilize, pray tell?
And one has to wonder why it would even worry such an irrelevant and frivilious waster such as yourself.
Calling me a homo, haha, such vast “intelligence” you “genius” liberals possess, why, your thoughts almost rise to the level of the ….mundane.
Almost.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
tiff - what you say sounds soooo nice and sweet. I am sure that sugar would not melt in your mouth. However, it really is a bunch of non-sense. You would rather have Neville Chamberlain than Winston Churchill. You would rather have Charles Lindbergh than Franklin Roosevelt. You would rather have Walter Mondale than Ronald Reagan. You would rather talk yourself into surrender than defend your freedom. To call those who will fight rather than just surrender ‘war mongers’ is really rather inane. Please read a good history book.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 7, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
Copyleft - I do not listen to talk radio shows. I do listen to NPR, though. You see, I get news from a variety of sources and then form my views. You, however, have probably actually never listened to those shows you condemn and have no idea what the intellectuals on the other side think. You just believe the crap poured out on this blog and on show on NPR and CNN. Educate yourself. Marxism doesn’t work.
By tiff
March 7, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Another way of looking at it is, we always tell our kids it’s better to talk and work things out, rather than fighting. Obama would be setting a good example for all of our kids if he were president. Teaching them something Christ tried to teach us in his word. “TO LOVE, AND NOT DESTROY EACH OTHER”.
By Copyleft
March 7, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Headcase’s insanity continues unabated, as he howls at his betters from the pit of pathetic stupidity:
“You would rather have Walter Mondale than Ronald Reagan. You would rather talk yourself into surrender than defend your freedom.”
Ah yes, I remember how Reagan immediately launched an invasion of the Soviet Union rather than contain them and pursue diplomatic and economic pressures.
Yessir, that Ronnie Reagan was a TRUE war-hawk, all right—he had no time for thinking when it came to nukin’ the commies! That’s why we have all this radioactive fallout around us every day.
In Headcase-Land, that is. The land where the only options are “fight” or “surrender,” and anything in between (like containment, sanctions, economic and political maneuvering, etc.) is just a code-word for “more surrender.”
And then he chafes at the label Inane Warmonger? It must fit too well.
By BS Aplenty
March 7, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
@ 9:48
Already conceding defeat and planning excuses.
headcase moron,
while conducting your “research,” on the elections, did it say whether the moon was full on those election days, or Republicans won after a rainfall occured the previous week after corn had been harvested by a left-handed farmer who worked from east to west, then turned around three times and started working west to east?
What a moron you are.
By Shawny
March 7, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
…no, that isn’t Bill, but it is Bill’s buddy. Maybe two consecutive entries in her call list alphabetically are Bill and Bin Laden. ooops, her bad.
On another note, Here is an excellent article that will p!$$ you off about the current congress. Feels like 1979 all over again.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 7, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
tiff - you really don’t live in the real world do you? There is a big difference in squabbling kids and thugs like Ahmadenijad and Osama bin Laden. The same inane arguments you are using now were used in the 1930s in regards to Hitler.
Copyleft - you miss the point completely. Reagan did NOT talk to the Soviets for a very long time and he showed them that he meant business by placing missiles in Western Europe and willing to go to the brink. Kennedy did the same thing with Krushchev. Your arguments fly in the face of the facts. You have to be willing to do more than talk. You folks would have talked us into surrender had we followed your advice before World War II or during the Cold War.
By Copyleft
March 7, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
“Intellectuals on the other side?” Sorry, but Mr. Buckley is dead, and you’re nowhere in his league.
If you WERE, you would’ve done a little research of your own to see the context of Rice’s comment, instead of repeating the Sound Bite of the Day.
Your stupidity stands revealed yet again, Headcase. Now quit yipping at your betters.
By Copyleft
March 7, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Shawny: You’re right, I’m ticked at the current Congress… for taking impeachment off the table.
Levying taxes on oil companies to support alternative-energy development, however, makes perfect sense.
By luckovichisaheadcasemoron
March 7, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
tiff,
You really JUST DON’T GET IT, do you? I know everything and if you disagree with me, then your wrong and I’m right all the time, everytime I post. You stupid liberal morons just don’t understand anything do you? I wish a nuclear bomb would be dropped on all your heads and then we could be rid of all the liberal minded, pinkos, commie loving, socialists, fascists, marxists, ugly, stupid butt people.
So there! Na na na na na na!
By mm
March 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
Ah, the wingnut cowards are again spewing their caveman thoughts to amuse us.
It’s obvious your neurons stopped firing at birth, sort of a mental abortion.
How does it feel to be a non-factor for the next 8 years? RIP morons.
By S. Hussein O'Hara
March 7, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
War, war, war!
This war talk is spoiling every party this Spring.
I get so bored I could scream.
If any of you says “war” once more I’ll go in the house and slam the door!
By Headcase research tools
March 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
Billboards on the side of the road (hey, says it on a billboard, must be true!)
Wikipedia (hey, if the facts don’t match what I think, I can just change ‘em!)
Right wing web sites (because liberals are all just stupid butts)
Rush Limbaugh (he’s my hero)
Fox News (the only source for unbiased, professional, journalism [bwa!])
By FRANKLEEDARLING
March 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Well we now what a republican prez will do when they get the “call”,we saw it on 9/11
MY PET GOAT GLAZED LOOK OF STUPIDITY t
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
Excellent illustration of how simplistic and slobberingly stupid the ideas of the left are:
{{{{By Copyleft March 7, 2008 10:57 AM Levying ——>taxes on oil companies<—— to support alternative-energy development, however, makes perfect sense.}}}}
Oh, so you’re taxing the “oil companies,” eh, halfwit?
Tell me, genius, where exactly do you think the “oil companies” get the money necessary to pay these taxes?
And since the “oil companies” only have a profit margin of 8%, which is far less than 500% taken by any company owned by al-Gore, do you reckon they will lower their margin to 7% to pay these taxes?
All you are doing, moron, with your hysterical shrieking junk science, just like any environmental terrorist does, is raising taxes on the poor, the elderly and anyone with a fixed income that can hardly afford to pay more for life’s basic necessities.
Congratulations, dimwit.
By tiff
March 7, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
luckovichisadummy, Are you saying there is never a time to negotiate just FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. I notice you did not mention Kennedy and how he handled himself during the crisis we all know as the missiles of October. When everyone around him was saying STRIKE he played it cool. At a time when it looked like war was inevitable, he did the right thing. Just think of what he avoided, millions of dead, sick and homeless people. He showed what a little diplomacy and style can get you. All we have is an idiot tap-dancing on the white house car port. Trust me I live in the real world, it’s people like you who only know how kill and destroy. You get some kind of sadistic joy out of hurting people you know can’t defend themselves against this country. Iran has posed the greatest threat to this country for years. But I don’t hear you, W or the rest of the republican war machine beating your war drums against them. I’m sure you know I don’t expect our president to roll up into a fetal position and cry when confronted with war. I just want one who can use his better judgement, and not kill thousands of civilians and thousands of American soldiers so he and his family can profit from that countries oil supply.
By luckovichisaheadcase
March 7, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
First of all, you self-rightious boobs, anyone can look up a date. That is all I did to verify a funny little fact that really has no relevance to anything. It was a nice little joke, I thought, when I first read it. I still do. Second, name calling is really quite childish and shows where you folks are coming from. It also shows that I must have hit a nerve.
Third, you folks don’t pay attention. I truly don’t listen to talk radio because I find it rather inane, left or right. I don’t listen to Limbaugh or to Diane Reem either. Al Franken was a completely boorish fool. I tried listening to Michael Savage once and he turned my stomach. Neil Boorst is a blowhard. Hannity’s voice is grating!!! You folks however just spout the talking points of the day and would not know ‘context’ if it hit you in the face. You still think that Marx and Lenin were right. Gotta go now. Have fun children.
By tiff
March 7, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
headcaseisamoron @10:59
YOUR MOMMA!!!!!!!!!!
By getalife
March 7, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this
Mike’s new toons have more detailed faces.
Methinks fox news sucked the soul from Mike.
“Jobs lost. Dollar down. Housing Worse. Hold Onto Hats.”
Mmmm, are they grilling the candidates on the economy?
Got Gold?
By will not work for food
March 7, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
when obama and hillary lower taxes for the poor I plan to retire. i’ll be compensated by the government and can hide my assets. i won’t have to contribute a penny to the deadbeats who figured it out before me. the government money pool will become very shallow.
By Mr. Headcase is weird, huh?
March 7, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
Love this kind of crap:
by luckovichisaheadcase @11:25 ‘First of all, you self-rightious boobs,’
followed by: ‘name calling is really quite childish and shows where you folks are coming from’
He’s such a moron that he doesn’t even notice that he contradicts himself almost EVERY SINGLE TIME HE POSTS!!!!
How funny, how funny, how funny.
His brain must be a nice happy fun place where everything is like cotton candy, pink, and soft and fluffy!
By getalife
March 7, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
Call Clinton a “monster” and got fired.
What a fighter.
Hey, remember the Clinton economy?
Time to seal the deal.
Clinton/Obama.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Here’s why we need McBushie:
{{{{Petraeus said, “..it’s been difficult to tell, frankly. We do, with a pretty high degree of confidence, we know that the Iranians continued to train militia extremists, the so-called ‘special groups’ that are supported by the Iranian Qods Force, that are literally funded, trained, equipped, and directed by the Qods Force with help from Lebanese Hezbollah. And you may recall, we captured the deputy commander of Lebanese Hezbollah Department 2800. We captured the head of the special groups. We’ve captured other very senior leaders in those organizations in recent weeks. There’s no question but that that training continued until very recently.}}}}
McBushie will give Iran a little of the old “you reap what you sow” by bombing these as-sholes like they so desperately need to be.
It should be a national priority to destroy Iran’s ability to kill American soldiers and Free Iraqi’s and we are not going to do that by running from Iraq like a bunch of spineless Cowards.
40 years these POS have been killing Americans without the first reprisal for it.
When are we going to man up?
Oh yeah, my bad, in November we will, when McCain takes office.
Bwa.
By Headcase is a joke
March 7, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
from headcase @ 11:25
{{{It also shows that I must have hit a nerve}}}
Hardly. We just like ridiculing you because you make it soooooooo easy. It’s like burning ants with a magnifying glass, you know you shouldn’t do it, but sometimes it’s just pretty darn fun.
By Analyst Interrupted
March 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Cartoon just okay. It’s one of those “tell a story” cartoons. You see, the phone rang in the middle of the night, like in the campaign ad, and do americans want a jealous wife answering the phone when Osama calls to surrender?
it’s okay. Bill likes to wine and dine women at all hours see? Bill Clinton likes affairs and sex and everything, see? He must have an enormous svanstooker, which is why Monica always yelled “Ricola” just before she gave Bill a Lewinski.
By AmVet
March 7, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
I know it is ungallant o pile on the hapless mr. headcase, but an incident yesterday begs a rational response.
ITN and I were rejoicing over the announcement that Jim Martin, a moderate Democrat, may run against our senior US Senator.
The aforementioned mr headcase chastised us for believing that Chambless would not win.
THOUGH I MADE NO ASSERTION TO THAT EFFECT.
By getalife
March 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Need the Clintons to clean up the economy again.
What a freaking mess but happens to everything w touches.
Must be a curse.
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Dang, it looks like Mr. Headcase is taking a beating today.
AmVet,
Were you surprised at Mr. Headcase’s remarks from yesterday? How dare you suggest that one of the elite Bush lickers get defeated [even if you didn’t :-)]!
Nice cartoon Mike! Yeah, I’d hate to be married to that woman. I’ll bet she beats Bill into oblivion all the time! Seriously, all you men out there, can you imagine having to face her when the Lewinsky she found out about Monica? Gives me shivers down my spine.
By S. Hussein O'Hara
March 7, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
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By AmVet
March 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
How goes it?
No I wasn’t surprised at all. But my reply is always the same - he picked the wrong cowboy to screw with.
That anyone here may choose to write like a juvenile delinquent is their choice.
But one thing I will not tolerate is to be intentionally misrepresented. By anyone. Ever. In this case, by one of the more rabid, whose writings appear to be a peculiar mixture of insult-filled diatribes and completely inane and unsubstantiated and unprovable opinions as facts.
C’est la vie.
But as I do not attempt to put words in other’s mouths, I require the same of them.
Further, some goofy analogy with Abraham Lincoln was later attempted but was so far off the point as to be ridiculous.
My point, my ONLY point, easily inferred, was that Chambless is a gutless lying POS for portraying a highly decorated combat veteran, Max Cleland, as lacking courage, when if ANYONE’S is in doubt, it’s his isn’t it?
Ironically and predictably, this blogger made the same damned fool mistake.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Sorry, I’ve been out defacing W stickers. Andy most certainly is not a homo. She’s just a petulant little girl. You can tell by her rants!
TTFN
By bon scott
March 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Some things never change. Like this board. Or Andie-poo’s constant presence, contradictions, and whining against anyone who dares question Mr. “My Pet Goat” and his paralysis during a crisis.
Not to mention his pointless Iraq war.
Or his incredible economic stupidity.
I kind of like McCain. I could even vote for him. But I have a feeling I’m in the distinct minority.
If the GOP loses in November, it’s members will have earned it.
Back to work!
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
It goes well, thanks.
Yeah, I hate that too. It just goes with the mindset I guess. The one thing that ticks me off is when someone tell me what I’m thinking, or like yesterday (and today for that matter) when someone says “You” this and “You” that, as if they have a freaking clue who I am or what the hell I’m thinking!
I grew up in a crazy fundamentalist church (until I was around 12)- and was told what, when, and how to think, never ask why, and if I didn’t, then I’d go to hell. Those crazy people had me so scared and anxious that I had to go to therapy for a couple of years just so I could sleep at night without fear that the rapture would come while I was asleep and I’d be left on Earth with demons and the AntiChrist. I had some serious issues about religion back then (and now)!
I also love when mistaken assumptions are made - like, for example, you support universal healthcare, so you must be a socialist! Oh yeah, like that makes sense.
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
Oh yeah, I totally agree with your assessment of Saxby “Oh, I hurt my knee playing football at UGA, boo hoo hoo” Chambliss - I seriously could not believe he got away with that. Shows the kind of mindless, robot sheep we have in this state. Bah, bah, bah!!!!!
By Devastator
March 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Obama’s econ adviser had to take one for the team.
Somebody had to speak the truth though.
By Ralph
March 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Bosch. Seriously. Wow. What a childhood experience. What is your general “take” on “our” religion today???
By AmVet
March 7, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
Bosch, I have read with some interest your references to your religious past and present (and your wife’s).
Sadly, I believe yours is a VERY common story in this country.
Ironically mine is almost the opposite. Both of my parents were raised under strict, even oppressive, religious parents. My mom, Jewish and my dad, Church of Christ. Both rebelled and had no use for the dogma the rest of their lives. I was never exposed by them to ANY gods.
When I was 15 or so I met a very charismatic Baptist preacher, and was soon up to my eyeballs in Jesus Fever! It caused great strife in my family, I can tell you!
Fortunately two years later I was in the military and began a new more “earthly” adventure!
No regrets, but I have searched and questioned this matter my entire life and found Christianity, Judaism, whatever to all be sorely lacking as the source of my reason for being or even my ethos.
By AmVet
March 7, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Bosch your point about Saxby’s supporters is a very good one.
I know I hammer on many public figures, particularly Bush, Cheney, etc…
But it is not with malice.
But IF there is one man I find truly despicable it IS Chambless.
And your point attests to a state with such numbers of the “faithful” that they elected Saxby’s kindred spirits - Newt Gingrich and Bob Barr.
I have found them all to be an embarrassment for the Peach State.
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
It sounds like you’ve had some bad examples.
From 8th grade until the end of high school, I had bad experiences with all my Science teachers. Guess what, I love science!
Because I had dolts for teachers doesn’t mean the Earth doesn’t revolve around the Sun you know.
By Tony
March 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
homoduh/ajc man: Will you be going on those Iran bombing missions? Much like your heavy involvement in the Iraq missions of the past few years? Or do you just support the troops with a beer and a ball cap, snarling your hatred & bravery from the couch like all Repugs? While wistfully fingering a NRA magazine? Your AR 15 in your lap? Talking tough? Again?
By AmVet
March 7, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
Great point, Apocalypse! I really enjoy your intuitiveness!
There is no doubt when I was young I framed many of my my ideas in the context of the examples I saw. (i.e. the rich guy in town was a b@stard, ergo rich people must all be b@stards.)
As I matured I very much moved away from this constraint, but nonetheless watched VERY closely those around me.
And though many were not, sadly, SOME of my original suspicions were accurate. (BTW I too had a couple of horrible, IMHO, chemistry teachers but it did not deter my fondness for the sciences at all!)
I’m not saying I’m correct on these matters, Apocalypse. I’m just saying NO One else is either. Or at least, no one can be sure, no matter how much they protest otherwise…
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
I believe that the media plays a huge role in our “demonification” of certain groups of people. When was the last time you saw a rich guy who wasn’t a bast@rd in a movie? The poor down to earth guy always gets the girl. I wouldn’t have a problem with that if it were realistic.
A wise man by the name of Michael Corleone once said, “This contempt for the rich is just a trick by the rich to keep the poor without it.”
Hollywood demonizes rich folks because it is mostly poor/not so rich folk who buy their tickets. Meanwhile, they become richer as we feel better.
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Amvet,
You just made me laugh because the other Bosch and I have always said that the only way our kids could rebel into something we couldn’t tolerate (and I mean this lightheartedly, not as me being intolerant here) are fundamentalist Jesus freaks.
My mom saw what was happening to me, among other things, and got my sisters and I out. It got to the point where I seriously couldn’t sleep at night and it had some pretty ill -affects on my health - a small kid-size nervous break down if you will.
My dad is agnostic, and he didn’t like us going there anyway.
I agree with you, religion has very little to do with what shapes me - ethos, good word, haven’t seen that one in a while.
You know what is scary about Bob Barr? He actually makes a little sense now - alot more than he used to. I read this columns and I agree with alot of what he says. He exagerates some, but he’s mellowed out. He was my parents representative during his time.
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
Ralph,
What do I think of religion? Got a few hours? It took me a very long time to come back to it, but I did, sort of. I think that religion is a great thing for a lot of people. I think there are many religious organizations that do very good work, and I commend them. I think there are more Christians than not, that haven’t a clue about who Christ was and what he taught. The more religious fervent a person is, it seems to me, they lean more towards Paul’s teachings - not Christ’s. I think religion provides comfort for a lot of people - but I think mostly it gives people solace and peace about a very scary thing to most - death. I think if you conquer your fear of death, religion isn’t so necessary.
It’s also nice for people who have lost loved ones to think about them being in a nice place instead of in the ground being eaten by worms and bugs. That’s not so nice.
But if you truly love someone, you’ll remember them forever, and you’ll tell stories about them, people will remember you for being a good person, and that, at least to me, is what eternal life means. A loved one who has died will be with you forever in your mind.
But, I really don’t care what people believe - I think whatever spiritual journey people take is their own business and I hope that everyone does. But everyone is different, and everyone chooses a different spiritual way, so let them be.
I don’t think many people acutally THINK about religion, and when you start to actually think about it, and learn some of the historical context, etc. there are alot of things that just don’t make any sense, at least to me.
But, hey, I’m all for religious freedom, just don’t force yours on me - or tell me I’m wrong, or NEVER what, when, or how to think.
By Goldie
March 7, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
Love the ‘toon, Lucko! I was even thinking that it could be Jennifer Flowers calling for Bill @ 3:00am, too— Hillary left herself wide open for comedians on this one!
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I know you know better, but just for the record, you do know that every follower of Christ is not a freak right?
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Of course Apocalypse,
Look at you! I don’t think you’re a freak, I know lots of Christians who aren’t freaks. I’m a Christian too, remember?
I know it bothers you when I talk religion, and you know I mean no harm, right?
I just had some pretty screwed up experiences at a really young age, it warped me on the whole relgion thing, but I, like you, go to church almost every Sunday and I really like my church, I just needed to find one where I was comfortable with my beliefs, and I did. I feel sometimes like I was mentally molested for lack of a better term. I’m not trying to make fun of children who’ve been molested, so please don’t anybody start screaming.
By AmVet
March 7, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Apocalypse and Bosch, it has been most enjoyable talking with you my blogging brothers!
But it is time to go.
Keep up the good fight!
USA! USA! USA!
(And the crowd goes crazy!….)
By Shark Sammich
March 7, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Bosch @ 2.24, Barr is quite good about civil liberties. About as consistent as any self-identified conservative I read these days.
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I was teaching a class the other night, discussing how I personally don’t like the term Christianity. Really not that crazy about christian either. All those terms do is let the world know that we’re not muslims or Jews. They speak nothing of the relationship we are to have with each other or with God.
I am a follower of Christ which is to say I strive to be like him and do as he has demonstrated we are to live.
P.S. Don’t trivialize the mental or pscyhological effects people have concerning lost loved ones and eternal life. If this where a business, those would be called perks.
By getalife
March 7, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
President Bill Clinton is talking about w’s economic trickle down failed economy comparing it to his successful economy.
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Have a good weekend AmVet!
Apocalypse,
Nice point about Christianity labels, I couldn’t agree more. I feel the same way.
I’m not trying to trivialize the effects on people who’ve lost loved ones, not at all, sorry you took it that way. I think those effects are a huge part of life - no one is ever the same after they’ve lost someone.
I’ve said before that I don’t believe in heaven and hell, I believe that a person’s spirit lives in those that are alive. I could be wrong, but I don’t think Jesus talked about heaven and hell very much and I don’t think he gave a definite description of what heaven is and isn’t, but I like to think about it that way, as in not a tangible place.
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
SharkSammich,
I didn’t realize until the other day that Barr was a Libertarian now. He switched parties. He was a rabid out to get Bill monster when he was in office, not sure why he hated him so much especially now when he seems to have mellowed some. But everyone seems to mellow after they get out of the political spotlight.
By Likkkoduh is a Mountain Man
March 7, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
As in Brokeback Mountain. Or one of them Deliverance types.
(I look like Ned Beatty, except balder and fatter. That’s why I wear a mumu - to feel pretty.)
By Goldie
March 7, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
Bosch @ 3:11 — one of my fave Luckovich toons back in the 90’s was the one after Bob Barr was dumped from office and he was standing by the side of the road, holding a sign reading “Will impeach Clinton for food” — I laughed and laughed and laughed…
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
Apocalypse, Again, not to make fun here, but here’s some problems I’ve always had with heaven and hell.
Heaven: what are you going to do for eternity up there? Gaze at God’s wonder? That makes God seem a little arrogant, and I don’t like to think of God that way.
If getting into heaven is as simple as you just have to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and rose from the dead and ascended into heaven, then I’m sure there are alot of bad people who believe that. Are they going to get in? Wouldn’t that kind of diminish the quality of life in heaven?
Aren’t there some just universal goods in the world? What if you’re a really evil person, but you still believe that about Jesus and God? It just doesn’t seem right that you should get into heaven.
Hell: I don’t like to think that God would torture people for all eternity in fire pits. That just doesn’t fit with what I think God is - a more loving a merciful being.
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Goldie! LMAO!!!! How funny. I need to see that. That’s hilarious!
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Tony March 7, 2008 2:03 PM homoduh/ajc man: Will you be going on those Iran bombing missions? Much like your heavy involvement in the Iraq missions of the past few years?}}}}
My timing was a little off on that one, troll, and yes, I do regret not being able to kill scores upon scores of raghead terrorists.
I served my country, punk, and I didn’t sit around whining or scheming rapes like you sick, pervert liberals envision someone brave enough to risk their lives for the freedoms that you enjoy everyday.
What more proof do you moron pinkos need than to see the WTC come falling from the sky, do you think these scumbags are joking?
Someone is going to fight them, sooner or later, and I would rather it wasn’t the women, children and office workers of the United States.
Like you so obviously do.
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{{{{By Bosch March 7, 2008 2:28 PM I think religion provides comfort for a lot of people - but I think mostly it gives people solace and peace about a very scary thing to most - death. I think if you conquer your fear of death, religion isn’t so necessary.}}}}
Talk about hitting the nail on the head but then missing the point entirely.
Allow me boil it down this way: Think of the question that all dimwit liberal “philosophers” will always ask after long periods of their degenerate ponderings- “what is the meaning of all this?”
Now think that there is “no meaning” and we really are just maggot bait.
What would be the point, the purpose?
Why would the Creator, and there has to be a Creator at some stage for anything to exist, even bother?
Random creation of human life, with us being animated pieces of meat and nothing more, goes against all of the laws of physics, science and biology, not to mention common sense.
To deny the existence of God is paramount to saying that the beautiful and life affirming birth of a child is nothing more than hopeless futility.
And it is not a “mental condition” to see the hope and gift of life whenever that child takes their first breath.
It is to understand completely.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
Oh my! The trolls called me a homo! What shall I ever do?
~~~~~
al-Gitmo: I did notice that too, I like the way cartoon boy drew Bruno’s eyes all crazy and pointing in different directions, it’s so life like.
I’m glad I don’t have to see that b!tch every night and I’m sure Bill is too.
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
Andy,
I’m not denying the existence of God, I believe in God, just not your version of what God is. I do in a “Creator” and believe there is purpose to life, and we are not mere maggot food. I have seen three children personally take their first breath for the first time, and I agree with you.
What is the meaning to all this? Don’t know, couldn’t tell you. I don’t think anyone is supposed to know completely what it all means. That’s God’s job. I think too many people miss the point completely by trying to search and find the answer to that question and forget to live.
“Talk about hitting the nail on the head but then missing the point entirely.”
But see Andy, this is exactly what I’m talking about - who are you to tell me that I’m missing the point? Your not God, and by telling me I’m wrong about what I believe is putting yourself in his shoes, so to speak, and that to me is simply deplorable.
By Copyleft
March 7, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
DullDuh complains about not having a God to give his life meaning and purpose (probably true in his case)…
…But he’s missing the point that meaning and purpose are things we invent for OURSELVES. No gods are required. If you’re so scared that you couldn’t come up with a purpose to your existence, Andy, that’s fine. But that doesn’t mean a god HAS to exist just to satisfy your insecurities.
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
Excellent point Copyleft -
We make our own purpose to life - people try and search for meaning when all they have to do is live and enjoy it.
Thanks for posting that.
By I think this is a big fat LIE
March 7, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
AJC Management
“I served my country,”
When and how?
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Bosch March 7, 2008 3:53 PM I’m not denying the existence of God, I believe in God, just not your version of what God is.}}}}
{{{{What is the meaning to all this? Don’t know, couldn’t tell you.}}}}
Don’t get mad at me but I think that it is you that are reading way to much into God’s intentions.
He gave us freedom to choose how to live this life for a reason, that being to see if we make the choice to do His Will.
His Creation has a fault called evil.
His Kingdom is, and I don’t want to say this lightly, the very essence of Good, and to enter you must reject evil.
It is nothing more than that.
—-Doing His Will= accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior and allowing the holy Spirit to guide your living.
{{{{By Copyleft March 7, 2008 4:02 PM DullDuh complains about not having a God to give his life meaning and purpose (probably true in his case)…}}}}
I have a God and I cannot fathom I you arrived at the conclusion that I don’t.
If you want to make this life all about you, that is why you were given free will.
If you want to worship the earth and the trees, thereby missing the forest, that is your decision to make.
But be advised, the Lord does not look a upon kindly those who instruct his children in the ways of evil.
Something about a millstone around your neck.
By GreenJeans
March 7, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
Wow, did Bosch just describe my expeprience with religion.
A couple of twists here: One, the church that I was born into and that my family attended until I was around eight or so was all about service to others and family involvement. Almost forty years later, I still have vivid memories of church dinners, wonderful singing, service projects.
Then my familiy moved to a nearby town and we began attending another church; some of our old church family had relocated there as well. At first it seemed like our old home, but more…strident. We were discouraged from going to movies, they frowned upon women wearing pants and encouraged subservience to the males (something my mother transcended rather easily!).
When I was about 13 years old, all of a sudden the church put in a “Christian Academy.” I even remember my parents discussing the fact that there were no qualified/certified teachers, and my sister and I continued on in public schools.
All of a sudden, the church began to split - you were either good Christians and attended/supported the academy, or were Sunday Christians - the in or out crowd, with us or against us.
In the Sunday bulletin of my graduation year, they even segregated the graduating seniors’names - mine along with two others appeared with an asterisk at the end of the program.
There were deeper issues that I won’t go into here, but basically I began my college years and adulthood with the feeling that I would forever burn in hell upon dying, and that my life on earth wasn’t worth much of anything until then.
You bet I rebelled. Later I was able to fire that God, come to understand the difference between spirituality and religion, and really appreciate the essence of Jesus’ teachings and life example - in addition to beautiful, life-and-hope-giving aspects of other faiths.
The last couple of decades have been painful for me to witness -extremism, misunderstanding, mistrust. This week a poster here wrote something to the effect that libs hate/fear God because they can feel the Presence and know it’s real…and I thought to myself how sad that things have deteriorated to the point that someone would truly believe a broad-brush untruth like that.
Apocalypse at 2:30 - question not for me, but the answer is yes.
By Likkkoduh Loves Dick Cheney
March 7, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
With or without the Cheney.
I served my country, as in “do you want fries with that?”
And I have serviced many a soldier too.
Like my mom, I give a discount for guys in uniform.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
{{{{By I think this is a big fat LIE March 7, 2008 4:28 PM AJC Management I served my country,” When and how?}}}}
2/8 Field Artillery, forward observer, mos 13 foxtrot.
They figured my mos would live an average of about 13 seconds after the Soviets crossed the line.
That was always a comforting thought.
But alas, they never crossed the line.
Spent a couple weeks in Honduras, on the Nicaraguan border, it’s not the easiest thing to sleep at night when you hear gunshots and people screaming, not to mention mosquitoes the size of Volkswagens, but you get used to it.
The First Sargeant walked the line that first night and told the soldiers in each hole he came to that if they sent a round down range he would article 15 their as-ses. When he got to us, I told him that if someone comes up this hill, I’d fill out the article 15 paperwork for him.
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
GreenJeans,
It seems to me that the essence of what happened at your church is what happens to alot of churches - it’s about the money - your family didn’t contribute, so therefore you were snubbed.
I think you made a very good point - there is a big difference between spirituality and religion - that’s what many do not understand.
Andy,
To be honest, I scroll past many of your posts because they are hate filled rants with no purpose except to demoralize people. You talk about the kingdom of God as a rejection of evil, yet you continue day after day to spew the very hate you preach against.
I’m going to go enjoy my life now.
Have a pleasant weekend all!
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
You seem to be responding to people’s incorrect assumptions that life is just about going to heaven or hell. They’re wrong but that does not negate heaven and hell’s existence.
What are good people? Am I good because I feed the hungry? What if I do that,but starve my own kids, or steal from someone. Classifying people as good or bad is almost impossible if you look at their lives entirely. That’s why God gave us Jesus. The good news of the gospel is no matter how you’ve behaved, you still have an opportunity for salvation by accepting him in our hearts.
If going to heaven was reserved for “good” people, no one would go because what may seem good to me might not be good to you. In God’s eyes: Sin is Sin. A crime is a crime.
As far as hell is concerned, God does not torture us there, the devil does. Hell was created for him. Hell was never created for us to be punished in, we go there to be with the one who has tepmted us to do the things that send us there.
God is more of the police who has to obey the law by serving and protecting. He doesn’t want us to go to hell no more than we do.
By GMAN
March 7, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
Why in the world would anybody idolize Ronald Reagan? He was senile for his last 4 years in office and a lying, thieving, crook. Oh, but that’s all republicans. My bad!
By @@
March 7, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
I just finished reading the site today. It’s amazing how little got discussed today.
Bosch:
It’s amazing to me this aversion you have to “religion”. I wanna share some scriptures with you, and then ask you to go back up and read your statements on the topic. Notice, how others pile on at your invitation, to share their horrible experiences.
The word of God is living and active. Hebrews 10:12
The word is near you’ it is in your mouth and in your heart. Romans 10:8
And Jesus said unto His disciples, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:15-16 (To be damned means to be separated from God or not to have a relationship with God.)
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. Matthew 7:16
You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Matthew 7:17
Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Matthew 7:20
Tell me, how would any kid seeking to believe, without the benefit of a parent’s example view the church based on your personal testimonial? I just don’t see it happening, and thereby you may have turned away a kid who, may very much be in need.
Talk about “the burning bush”….
You serve as a thistle and a thorny bush.
It’s unbelievable how irresponsible you are in your service to Him and others who may be searching.
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
One last point. The problem with the Church is that we go to church but we don’t seek to be like the head of the church,Christ. He told his people to “Love one another, by this everyone will know that you are my disciples, when you love one another’.
That’s our failure as “christians”. Loving each other and the world.
By Tony
March 7, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
homoduh/AJC: Well now! You’ve added “I served my country….” to your old, tired crock of cruid. That’s new. Never heard that outta yew before. You’re REALLY trying to reinvent yourself this time! But it doesn’t work - your cowardice & hatred & raving & and ignorance come screaming through. gee then, we’ve BOTH served our countries. Me in combat at age 17 &18. Hell, I’m even on the web. Maybe you’d like to share w us all your times of service, your MOS, you duty stations, when, where, and more?? I did that here long ago to shut some fraud Repunk like you up. I don’t linger here - but might look in later to see what I’m-trying-to-insult-you nonsense you vomit forth. Maybe. Grab your baseball cap & beer, have stringy-haired mama dress you as a gangsta - it’s almost Friday Eve. Go git um, hero! Now’s yer chance to detail your military activities to everyone here in your…very tiny world. You can talk more about Geesussa too. Don’t let Bosch scare you with truth or reality. And don’t worry about Hillary. We know you Repugs fear the girls. So there, there - don’t be overly frightened by the females of the land. If they ever take powe they’ll still allow you to live out your would-be macho moments. Better climb into your SUV/PU now & seek some toughness & masculinity. Sniffing another bar rag will help. You go, fan-boy!!
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this
@@,
I don’t think attacking Bosch is what you want to do here babe.
He is questioning, not judging. There’s a way to handle that.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
Tony: I’ve only said it about a thousand times before.
Perhaps you should not eat so much ecstacy, no?
By the way, it didn’t take the Nicaraguans very long to figure out who their new neighbors were on top of that hill and when they did, they unas-sed the vicinity real quick like.
Hell, they could still be running for all I know.
After that we went in country Honduras to train their soldiers how to call for and adjust fire, and one day we were driving down this desolate one lane road just me and this lieutenant. We came upon two vehicles parked along each side of the road and there were a couple of thugs, irregulars of some kind, standing so that they blocked the road, I guess they were harassing people that passed through this area. So the Lt, a freaking college boy four eyes, starts waving like he wants to stop and turn around. I was driving, told him not to worry about it, picked up my M203 off the floorboard, propped it on my leg so that everyone could see it and kept going.
Sure enough, our brave little freedom fighters, as the pinko media likes to call them, scampered off of the road and turned their backs to this awesome display of American military might, never turned to look at us even after we passed by.
They knew what the deal was.
By @@
March 7, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Apocalypse:
(((He is questioning, not judging.)))
I wish I was as convinced of that as you are. Bosch spends more time criticizing “The Body of Christ” (the Church) than he does professing his faith in The Church.
I’ll leave him to you though. You seem to be much better at guiding than I.
We’ll just call it my righteous anger.
By Mel
March 7, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
We have @@ spreading his own interpretation of Christianity and hatred under the guise of love and understanding; then we have brand new duh-AJC raving about his brand new invention of military service and his rugged lifestyle. Imagine what it must be to have to live in the presence of these wackos. No wonder the U.S. is a mess. Weak little men like these insure that it remains that way.
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this
@@,
Cool beans mama.
By RW-(the original)
March 7, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this
@@,
I just got in and read the site too so get ready for another round of being accused of each of us being the other or whatever the latest whack job theory is.
Blowhard,
So you don’t tolerate someone putting words in your mouth or twisting and misrepresenting what you write? So far so good, but you go on to say that’s something you would never do. I hate to tell you, cowgirl, but that’s about ALL you do. Even in the very same post where you wrote that you totally misrepresented what Chambliss had said about Cleland.
Bosch,
90% or so of Andy’s posts are excerpts from articles by others that he generally agrees with and adds an editorial point or two. Those of you that claim you scroll past them because they are hate filled diatribes may think you’ve some high ground to perch on, but what you really show the reading public is that you lack the intellect to take on the writer and debate the merits of your case and the demerits of the author’s point.
By Analyst Interrupted
March 7, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
God ruined America.
By Apocalypse
March 7, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
Mel,
@@ ia a woman playa! Recognize.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Bosch March 7, 2008 5:02 PM Andy, To be honest, I scroll past many of your posts because they are hate filled rants with no purpose except to demoralize people. You talk about the kingdom of God as a rejection of evil, yet you continue day after day to spew the very hate you preach against.}}}}
You know, your comments would be a lot more sincere if you didn’t define the voicing of ideas that differ from what you believe as “hate.”
It’s just an easy way to dismiss something you don’t want to face up to.
I’m against government entitlements because they ruin people’s lives, just look at any housing project to see what I’m talking about. It’s the worse possible life anyone could live, short and brutal, and liberals act like it’s a gift or something.
But me saying this is hate?
By @@
March 7, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
Mel:
Thanks for dropping in from out of nowhere buddy.
I’m buying it hook, line and “stinker”.
By Jesus
March 7, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
{{{{In the print and online worlds, there are so many more sources and options. The only shouting involves exclamation points and capital letters. The junk is easier to recognize and ignore. I’ve even found myself reading the transcripts of debates rather than watching and listening to them, which has allowed me to concentrate on substance and disregard the theatrics. There have been some absolutely moronic questions asked by debate “moderators”, but, if you think they sounded stupid on television, you should read them.}}}}
I feel more informed than ever, and I find all the talk about the irrelevant aspects of the race to be, well, irrelevant. I’m no longer a part of the electronic echo chamber, and I’m very happy. I may never go back.-Pat Sajak
I couldn’t agree more.
Well, except or when Ann is on, of course.
By @@
March 7, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
Alright, who’s following Hugo’s latest antics?
Columbia has found evidence where Hugo gave $300 million of his people’s money to the FARC guerillas and he’s blubbering that the U.S. is interfering in Columbian politics?
Hugo’s having to face down peace marchers in Venezuela.
Then he says he’s cutting off economic ties to Columbia.
(((Total 2007 trade between the two South American neighbors amounted to roughly $4 billion. Most of the $1.36 billion that Venezuela sent to Colombia consists of raw materials such as iron, aluminum and fuels. These are all things that Venezuela can easily find buyers for elsewhere — albeit at lower prices, since Venezuela will need to offer discounts to make up for increased shipping costs.)))
(((On the flip side, Colombia exports $2.64 billion in products to Venezuela. These are mostly things for which Venezuela has acute shortages; namely, manufactured goods and food products. Reports of bare supermarket shelves in Caracas are now commonplace in the Venezuelan media. Chavez’s decision will not help fill those shelves.)))
What…….a…….boob.
Getalife is right…Kharma is good.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer /sarc/ guy. Too bad his people have allowed themselves to become his victims.
By Rob
March 7, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this
duh-the-magic-homo now pronounces himself to be a military veteran, suddenly after all these years. Wonders never cease. These freaks know no shame. Always exposing themselves, one way or another.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this
On the world stage, the Church defends the dignity of women in cultures where religious persecution, honor killings, genital mutilation, and forced marriages are daily realities. Such realities are ignored by many Western feminists whose fixation on abortion rights and reluctance to criticize any culture but their own have relegated them to the sidelines of these battles.
By getalife
March 7, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this
Blood in the water,
picking at the carcass,
Obama meet the Clinton machine because it just ran you over.
Psst, it is the Clinton economy.
By @@
March 7, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
Rob:
When I first visited this site 2 1/2 - 3 years ago, Andy posted his veteran credentials.
You don’t come around much, so how would you know “after all these years?”
Thanks for dropping in out of nowhere. Just like Mel, I’m buying it hook, line and “stinker”.
Give me a break!
By Glenn
March 7, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
The Greek Scriptures sharply distinguish belief from faith, and faith from institutional religion. The Book of Acts begins in the sanctum sanctorum of Abrahamic religion, in the Holy of Holies in Jerusalem, and ends in the profane precincts of metropolitan Rome, in a home church.
Please try not to mistake the bottle for its contents. The bottles are made in a factory without quality control. The contents were not made at all. Before you were, they ARE.
By @@
March 7, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this
Glenn:
We’ve already had the discussion - faith versus religion. We’re all clear on that. Not many home churches about.
A lot of good bottles out there from which to drink “the water” and not the kool-aid.
By @@
March 7, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
Psssst, just to let you know, I may hail from Cali but I don’t have a tramp stamp.
I thought about it at one time. A dragonfly with wings full-out. Black and green with silver veins in the wings. Lucky for me they didn’t have silver ink.
Anyhoo, no stamp on this lady.;-)
Dragonflies and Praying Mantis are my favorite insects.
By Copyleft
March 7, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this
Andy, you INVENTED a god because you can’t imagine life having a purpose without one.
But that’s not a good enough reason, and I think you know it.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Copyleft March 7, 2008 6:55 PM | Andy, you INVENTED a god because you can’t imagine life having a purpose without one.}}}}
Halfwit: You invented a purpose for life because you aren’t strong enough to walk with your Lord.
There are more joys in life then just playing with yourself, homeboy.
By AJC Management
March 7, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this
What a wonderful job the Republicans have done bringing the economy to a crashing halt!
By Glenn
March 7, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this
@@,
I modified the word “religion” quite intentionally, and deliberately led with the distinction between faith and “belief”. I think that the belief/faith distinction is crucial to anyone’s understanding of Christianity, and I and those of my school actually presume to counterpose, not faith vs. religion per se, as you have it, but faith vs. institutional religion—-or, in our terms, “the religion that comes from Man” vs. “the religion that comes from God”.
My intended point about “bottles” is that, though they are designed to contain the Wind, they can’t do so—-not least because the Wind always has been and always will be, while bottles are fleeting. Because they can’t contain that which slakes our thirst, we should not look to them for a drink. Their rightful function is to SPILL any contents that may enter them, no?
Religiously I don’t give a damn what some money-grubbing, hypocritical, unlettered, sexually predatory crimaloid fool of a cleric has done to someone. Throw the SOB in prison and throw away the key. That’s got NOTHING to do with anything eternal, and if some victim wants to make that categorical error and nurture those wounds as though they impinged the fact of Christ and Him crucified, then the pobresito is lost anyway. Let the dead bury their dead.
By RW-(the original)
March 7, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this
Maybe the reasons Democrats insist on government health care is to assuage their guilt over the way they treat their own employees.
I don’t know what it is with these Friends of the Common Man. The Dayton story is similar to the one about Al Franken that we noted yesterday: Franken flouted New York law by failing to buy workers’ compensation insurance to protect his employees, then dodged New York’s authorities until they finally tracked him down and made him pay a $25,000 penalty. Franken’s story, in turn, was identical to that of Paul Wellstone—the ultimate Friend of the Common Man—who broke the law by choosing not to procure workers’ compensation insurance for his employees during his 2002 Senate campaign. When several employees were killed along with Wellstone in a plane crash, Wellstone’s scofflaw attitude caused Minnesota’s taxpayers to be stuck with most of the cost.
{{{{The moral I would draw is, if you have choice between going to work for a skinflint capitalist and a Friend of the Common Man, choose the skinflint capitalist.}}}}
Indeed
By Bosch
March 7, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this
Apocalypse,
I agree. If more Christians thought like you, the church would be a stronger place.
@@,
Thanks for the scripture, they are all very nice, but they can be interpreted many different ways. First of all, I don’t buy into Paul so much - second, I know what to be damned means, it’s very irresponsible and dangerous I might add to interpret things for others. Belief comes from inside, not from what others tell them to believe.
I think it’s more irresponsible to scare a child into salvation instead of letting them create their own spiritual path. I wonder what Jesus would think of those who scare children into thinking they will spend an eternity in the fire pits of hell roasting away, if they ask questions or don’t believe the same thing.
I don’t give my personal testimonials to children seeking a higher power - I was asked my opinion from someone on this blog, and I gave it. You see that as irresponsible? So what? My spiritual path is my own, it doesn’t concern you, nor should you be concerned by it.
My faith does not lie in the church, it lies with God and Jesus Christ.
Andy,
I don’t define the voices that differ from mine as hate, but I do define demoralizing people by calling them “morons,” and “dimwits” among other things that you spew out daily insulting and yes, pretty hateful.
I think if a poll was taken by regular bloggers here, you’d be way at the top of the most hateful.
You don’t like housing projects and welfare programs? Fine. That’s your opinion, your opinions don’t concern me, nor should my opinions concern you if you disagree.
By @@
March 7, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this
Glenn:
Sometimes the way you emote can be misread.
(((Because they can’t contain that which slakes our thirst, we should not look to them for a drink. Their rightful function is to SPILL any contents that may enter them, no?)))
I always try to choose my words carefully. Don’t wanna give the leftists any ammunition they can use against us.
I wouldn’t have chosen the word “wind” if ‘ya know what I’m sayin’ but you’re right.
A person’s faith, like the wind, can’t be grasped by others without, and thereby tossed to….
It is “the rock” on which I stand.