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By Georgia 74

March 6, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

Funny.

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

Bush And McCain: Photo-Op Friends Forever

AND

{{{{McCain forgets the press Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:15 PM by Domenico Montanaro Filed Under: 2008, McCain From NBC/NJ’s Adam Aigner-Treworgy After McCain’s meeting at RNC headquarters, the traveling press rushed back onto the bus to find a boxed lunch and no staff. So with no direction, the press waited at the bus assuming McCain was still inside meeting with RNC staff. An hour and a half later, press secretary Brooke Buchanan called wondering where the press bus was. The campaign staff had traveled back to the airport without telling the press. At that point, McCain was more than half an hour late for a 6 pm fundraiser in Florida. As one writer joked, “I told you McCain would forget about the press after he won the nomination.””””

Early Onset Oldtymers?

AND

McCain Attacked Bush in 2000 Over Anti-Catholic Endorsement

By AJC Management

March 6, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this

I like the way David Warren thinks:

{{{{I see no reason why the Democrats, given that they are not only Democrats, but Democrats at the current stage of political degeneration, will not choose Barack Obama as the candidate more likely to unite them. He has captured the hearts of a large constituency of very naïve people, together with the glitter of “identity politics.” A victory for Ms. Clinton would make all those people sad, and persuade many of them not to vote in the general election.}}}}

{{{{Mr. Obama emerged, late last fall, when he suddenly caught fire rhetorically. Prior to that, he had been a rather bland speaker with nothing substantial to say. His Senate track record was similarly undistinguished: no sign of leadership on any question of policy. His attraction was novelty and a specious charm.}}}}

{{{{And will the question, “Whom do you trust as Commander-in-Chief?” - a fair question for the electorate of the world’s pre-eminent superpower - advance to the front burner? For that is a question that knocks Mr. Obama out of consideration, and he can only hope to win as long as people can be persuaded not to think about it.}}}}

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{{{{There is often a silver lining in political defeats, and Republicans had no trouble coming up with one Wednesday after Democrats killed House Speaker Glenn Richardson’s much-ballyhooed plan to eliminate property taxes on cars.}}}}

{{{{It was a huge legislative defeat for Republican Richardson, who has crusaded against property taxes for the past year.-Urinal}}}}

A “huge defeat” for Republicans?

How about a huge defeat for the people of Georgia?

We will make that distinction perfectly clear for everybody to see.

By Glenn

March 6, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

W. does Burning Man? Pagan sex and movement nostalgia?

I don’t think so.

By Copyleft

March 6, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Now, now. I don’t see why an endorsement from the Worst President in History would do anything but cause a “surge” in McCain’s popularity!

Among the brain-dead 19-percenters, that is.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

Another tasteless cartoon from a crude, boorish jerk who would be the first to complain if the shoe were on the other foot - or in this case in his mouth. Well, you can’t buy class, as the old (and very bad) prime time soaps so beautifully illustrated!!!

AJC Management - I agree, the people of Georgia did lose, and it was a nasty loss. Property taxes of any kind are a vestige of that oldest form of socialism, feudalism, which should have gone the way of the Dodo when we passed the first income tax in this country. You cannot truly be free if you do not actually own your own property, even your rolling stock, if in reality you are renting it from the government.

By PisnAndMoaningGOP

March 6, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

I love it! Bush passes the albatross to McCain.

Thanks, Gov. Bush!

By FRANKLEEDARLING

March 6, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

sonny&cagle are a defeat of choice in Georgia.They think the government should be involved in my time management.

McCain is a loose cannon,damaged goods a flip flopping geezer who wants to ride on the coattails of our worst prez ever.proof that the man lacks the sense of judgment to run our country.

Mccain=old, tired and wrong for America

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

IN THE (ONE SIDED) NEWS - Bill and Hitlery Clinton attack the ‘excesses’ of the 1980s and then use every trick in the book when justly investigated for fraudulent land deals, questionable commodities deals and general corruption during that same period.

News flash, Barak Obama refuses to denounce his racist and anti-Semitic pastor.

You live in a glass house.

By Paul

March 6, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

ITN 8:29

You don’t “outsource” acquisition of military equipment. Outsourcing refers to having private contractors perform a function, such as maintenance, payroll, serving food, that was formerly done by a government organization.

Sen. McCain is correct - the Dept of Defense does not exist as a social welfare program (“creating” jobs for Americans).

The challenge is because the AF awarded the contract, based upon cost and performance, to a company that’s foreign (BTW- Alabama’s going to receive thousands and thousands of jobs as a result of this - they just won’t be Boeing jobs).

For years the military’s had need for equipment, available from foreign sources (German, Israeli, couple cases of what was then South Africa) but couldn’t buy it - Buy American rules stopped that.

A question to illustrate: US forces enter combat. Don’t have enough, or inadequate, body armor. A foreign company has units ready to ship. Do we put it on hold so an American company can ramp up production?

Besides which, the Democratic Party has historically championed “free trade” (in spite of the Ohio-Texas rhetoric). So it seems it’s one more issue that gets down to money and power (jobs in certain districts).

If the challenge stands, it’s a perfect illustration - some wonder how I can say we can cut the Defense budget without endangering our troops or endangering missions.

By Cindi

March 6, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Oh to look forward to November..Eight long years of national embarrassment finally come to an end..

By Paul

March 6, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

ITN

BTW- two congressmen leading the criticism: one from Washington, one from Kansas. Care to guess where Boeing has a major presence (and where a lot of campaign contributions come from)?

From Military dot com:

“Air Force officials said the Northrop Grumman-European Aeronautic Defense and Space Co. bid outpaced the one from Boeing in most areas. EADS is the parent company of Airbus, Boeing’s main rival in the global commercial airplane market.

“More passengers, more cargo, more fuel offload, more patients that we can carry, more availability, more flexibility and more dependability,” Gen. Arthur Lichte, the commander of the Air Mobility Command at Scott Air Force Base in Illinois, said of the Northrop Grumman-EADS KC-45A tanker. “

So - a question right in the spirit of this blog: You noted the phrase ‘more patients we can carry’? Buy the Boeing version, the AF can transport fewer casualties back to a major medical facility.

So you’re willing to have countless servicemen die just so a person can have a job in one part of the country (Kansas) and not another (Alabama)?

By Andy

March 6, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

I wish someone would play with me. I always end up playing with myself.

By Georgia 74

March 6, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

One thing we can all take solace in, Demos and Repuds alike, no matter who in our wildest dreams, read about in all of literature, heard about in song, seen on film and heard about by word of mouth and experienced in life, they will not be as bad as what we have today.

By Mark In Marietta

March 6, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Great one, Mike! The “little emperor who couldn’t” burns the next bridge for the GOP! Woo-Hoo!!

By reebok

March 6, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

McCain promises 4 more years of Bush’s failed presidency…plenty enough reason to vote Dem…whoever it turns out to be.

By FRANKLEEDARLING

March 6, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

Paint Georgia blue get rid of sonny purdue

HA HA i amuse myself

By Paul

March 6, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

reebok

Sounds a little sound-bitish - so do you really think Bush opposes torture, wants to close Guantanamo, wants to provide a pathway to citizenship for illegals, works for strict campaign finance bribes, er, contribution reform, believes in a woman’s right to choose?

By golly, that’s not the Bush I read about!

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

This is the Bush failed presidency - no further domestic attacks since 9/11. The lowest average unemployment rate over any six year period since records have been kept. Low inflation as well during that period. A prescription drug program for the elderly (I don’t like it, but many do consider it an accomplishment, none the less). He has not been indicted for perjury like his predicessor. The one ‘scandal’ of his administration was so minor that it can only be considered a miscarriage of justice. Clinton on the other had is a confessed and convicted perjurer. He had more members of his administration indicted and convicted than did Richard Nixon.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

This is the Bush failed presidency - no further domestic attacks since 9/11. The lowest average unemployment rate over any six year period since records have been kept. Low inflation as well during that period. A prescription drug program for the elderly (I don’t like it, but many do consider it an accomplishment, none the less). He has not been indicted for perjury like his predecessor. The one ‘scandal’ of his administration was so minor that it can only be considered a miscarriage of justice. Clinton on the other had is a confessed and convicted perjurer. He had more members of his administration indicted and convicted than did Richard Nixon.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

This is the Bush failed presidency - no further domestic attacks since 9/11. The lowest average unemployment rate over any six year period since records have been kept. Low inflation as well during that period. A prescription drug program for the elderly (I don’t like it, but many do consider it an accomplishment, none the less). He has not been indicted for perjury like his predecessor. The one ‘scandal’ of his administration was so minor that it can only be considered a miscarriage of justice. Clinton on the other had is a confessed and convicted perjurer. He had more members of his administration indicted and convicted than did Richard Nixon.

By Linhasxoc

March 6, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Yeah… anyone who Bush endorses is not my first choice for anything. Still, at least McCain could properly manage the war.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase,

Fraudulent land deals, questionable commodities deals, and general corruption? Were the Clintons ever indicted for anything?

The only criminal charges ever brought up on either Clinton was Bill’s impeachment charges, which he was tried and found not guilty, and gave up his law license after it was over.

Can you find any sources to back up your accusations of fraudulent land deals or corrupt commodities deals?

Thanks in advance.

And you call ITN, one sided?

You wingnuts point out to all if anyone brings up Bush’s questionable activities or any of his cronies questionable activity — well, were they indicted? Convicted?

Sorry, Mr. Headcase, you don’t get to scream foul, either.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Robert ‘Sheets - KKK’ Byrd is back in the hospital. Satan may soon call the old crook on home.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

By reebok 9:08 AM

{{{McCain promises 4 more years of Bush’s failed presidency}}}

And the dems promise to take that 11% approval rating from congress to the white house. They’re promising the same garbage they promised when they took over the senate in ‘06 and you’ll get the same pathetic result. You dimwits keep bashing Bush and his low approval rating while touting a couple of losers who are part of a group with HALF the approval rating. Are you not very good with math or are you just plain dense?

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

I’ll bet Mr. McCain was thinking yesterday while at the White House, “Oh great, maybe people will forget about this in a few days.” It’s the price to pay when you sell your soul.

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

McCain touts endorsement by racist TN GOP

By Demokkkrat National Kommittee

March 6, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Greetings fellow goons and klansmen:

If you have not heard thee good news yet, I am pleased to inform you that the Great and Marvelous Ku Klux Rodham has arisen from her early grave and is once again rampaging across this great land plotting and scheming upon thee black man and thee federal treasury.

Was Tuesday not a historic night for our exalted Klan? Thee look upon thee black man’s face when he saw the swift and terrible sword of justice cutting into his delegate lead was more exciting than any lynching or church burnin that I have ever attended to. I could sense the look of fear upon his face, as though some good klanner had set dogs upon him and it made me get real hard.

Now to the business at hand, you jackbooted hacks. Our idiot voters and thee other moron demokrat kandidates fell for our scheme in Florida and Michigan and now we must whine and shriek like little sissies until they award us those delegates. I need you mouth breathers to whine as though your welfare checks are a day late. Call your Congressman and whine, call our “news” paper reporters at the AJC and tell them to whine, call our people at PMSNBC and tell them to whine even louder than usual.

Thee next several months are crucial and could be a chance for us to be rid of Those People once and for all. If we beat this crack dealing Muslim terrorist Hussien like a dog, Those People will hate us and leave our beloved demokrat party in droves, and then we will have all of thee Government Benefits to ourselves.

I know what you goons are thinking, if Those People leave, then who will we have to chase through the streets and hate on? Do not worry, you clods, we are working night and day to replace them with thee Latino people, and after we no longer need the Latino vote, then we will turn you hooligans and your hate upon them.

Are we not just so wicked and devious?

So hop up on your horsies, put your little pointy cap on top of your empty skulls and ride, you hacks, ride into the glorious night of hate and sickness.

Seig Heil!

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

But then again, maybe you’re not as dense as us idiots who voted TWICE for a AWOL, C-Average, coke-snorting, alcoholic loser like Bush…

By Soothsayer

March 6, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

To those who think eliminating property taxes on cars is good: Guess whose property taxes would have gone up to offset the loss of revenue? That’s right—homeowners. There is no free lunch.

By Abomi Nation

March 6, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

RB, its obvious why Congress has such low ratings. The obstructionist Republicans.

Feb 10 Gallup shows 55% of registered voters plan on voting for a Dem in the November Congressional election. Only 41% plan on voting Republican.

Nice try though.

Btw, hows that Bush stock market you were bragging about? Oh, and the real estate billboard? Can you tell us what it says about the current market.

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

NAFTA-gate’ story takes unexpected turn

By Goldie

March 6, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Yes, Lucko — love this toon!

I also thought it was interesting that McInsane showed up late for his lunch with Dubya yesterday… payback time! He literally left Dubya on the steps doing a shuffle in front of the news reporters — too funny!

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Clinton {{{ gave up his law license}}}??? You’ve got to be kidding!! I guess you think Saddam Hussain “gave up” his reign in Iraq too?

Why is it so hard for you to admit the man is a serial woman abuser/chaser and a liar? He admitted to it, Bosch, and you still can’t bring yourself to. Do you also think he was telling the truth about Flowers, Jones, and all the others?

BTW, that has nothing to do with Bill Clinton the President. That’s purely a reflection of the man he is. If that many women accused your husband of raping them and then he admitted to the last one (only after the evidence sold him out), would you still swoon over the man the way you do over Bill?

Talk about blind sheep….

By Goldie

March 6, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

{{This is the Bush failed presidency - no further domestic attacks since 9/11.}}

Head Case — why not tell the citizens of London, Madrid and Indonesia how proud you are of Dubya’s success in spreading “freedom” throughout the Middle East? I’m sure they’d eagerly agree with you…

By Paul

March 6, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett namejacker:

AWOL: so I guess you’re one of those accusing the military chain of command of dereliction of duty, making false official statements, etc for not bringing charges for criminal acts? Are you really?

C-average: plenty of info out there - was about on a par with Kerry. I suppose he never should have run?

coke-snorting: you’re talking about Obama? I thought this was a Bush attack.

alcoholic: guess you don’t think of alcoholism as a disease? Or have much respect for people who enter treatment and stay sober? Pity.

By Goldie

March 6, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

reebok @ 9:08 — I saw an ad on TV where the faces of Dubya and McCain are inter-meshed, and the ad keeps referring to McCain as “McBush” and “McSame”, stating that he will continue the same policies as Dubya… that’s gonna scare the majority of American voters in October and November!

By Truthman

March 6, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

If you’re black or if you’re blue, Sonny Perdue don’t care about you!!

Oh BTW, Impeach Bush/Cheney!

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

This is the Bush failed presidency: (beginning with the first 6 months)

On the day of George W. Bush’s inauguration, Chief of Staff Andrew Card issues a sixty-day moratorium halting all new health, safety, and environmental regulations issued in the final days of the Clinton administration.

On the twenty-eighth anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision, Bush reinstates the “global gag rule” barring U.S. funding for abortion counseling abroad.

Bush suspends Clinton’s “roadless rule” protecting nearly sixty million acres of forests from logging and road-building.

Bush abandons his campaign pledge to regulate carbon dioxide emissions from power plants.

Bush administration moves to overturn a Clinton regulation reducing the allowable level of arsenic in drinking water.

Bush backs out of Kyoto treaty on global warming.

United States Department of Agriculture proposes lifting a requirement that all beef used in federal school lunch programs must be tested for salmonella; the proposal is dropped two days later.

Department of Interior proposes a limit on lawsuits seeking protection of endangered species.

Bush administration abandons international effort to crack down on offshore tax havens.

Vice President Dick Cheney’s task force releases its “National Energy Policy” report, calling for weaker environmental regulations and massive subsidies for the oil and gas, coal, and nuclear power industries.

And guess what? At this point, he’s only getting started! Things get worse, MUCH worse, as he “finds his feet”.

By GOPher Think

March 6, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

NEW YORK - A small bomb caused minor damage to an empty military recruiting station in Times Square early Thursday, shaking guests in hotel rooms high above “the crossroads of the world.”

Now, if King George and his band of Republican merrymen ever found out that this was a TERRORIST bombing, does ANYBODY imagine for one minute that the filthy lying little pudfuckers would tell us so?

Not a snowballs chance in a Republican administration!!! Not on the Chimperor’s watch!!!

Now we know the REAL TRUTH!!! Republican policies are INVITING terrorist recruitment and activity abroad and now at home. These little shiitebirds have been stirrin up a hornet’s nest they can’t handle instead of letting em kill each other off and now we, the American public, have to pay the price.

….and now they want to give us another 8 years of McSAME!!!

GOPhers don’t just stick their HEAD in the sand, they have to go whole hog and stick their whole damnable filthy lying little child molesting, bathroom trolling BODIES in the dirt they love so dearly!!!

By Paul

March 6, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Goldie

Welcome back. I posted last week - attended a rally, stood face to face with Pres Clinton, shook hands. Then went to an Obama rally at a convention center, full an hour ahead of time, he spoke for over an hour, no notes. Crowd was a cross-section of America. Same weekend I could have seen Hillary and McCain but had to catch a flight. Two for four ain’t bad. But I’ll catch the other two. A past Pres, a future Pres. Not a bad couple of days.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

By Abomi Nation 9:53 AM

{{{RB, its obvious why Congress has such low ratings. The obstructionist Republicans.}}}

Why don’t you tell us what grand legislation the R’s have prevented your beloved Pelosi and co. from enacting? I’m sick of your empty rhetoric and just plain outright lies. Bring the goods dimwit.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

By Abomi Nation 9:53 AM

{{{RB, its obvious why Congress has such low ratings. The obstructionist Republicans.}}}

Why don’t you tell us what grand legislation the R’s have prevented your beloved Pelosi and co. from enacting? I’m sick of your empty rhetoric and just plain outright lies. Bring the goods dimwit.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Goldie - how you love to pick and choose. Yes, there was an attack on Britain, caused in part by their complacency about their domestic Muslim population. The attack in Spain was a despicable act which resulted in the Spanish voters and government bowing to the will of the terrorists. We have not done so, and I hope that we won’t. Even Obama says he will go back to Iraq if there is an al-Qaeda base there. Well… he will just have to stay, poor fool. They have a base there. Indonesia is a Muslim country and full of radical Islamists. This was not the first attack nor will it be the last for them. But the fact remains, we have not had another domestic attack since Septebember 11, 2001. If Bill the B-stard were still messing around in the Oval Office then such a record would not exist. He and all of you liberals speak the same language - surrender!

By Truthman

March 6, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Oh AmVet, you can’t expect the neo-conmen and women to let facts interfere with their propaganda, now can you???

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

By Abomi Nation 9:53 AM

And with regard to the housing market and the economy, you just go on whining about it and crying about the sky falling. You and the libs have been crying doom and gloom from day 1 of Bush’s term. You have a losers mentality, dude. I suspect thats had a profound effect on your position in life. Try a mirror.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Um RB,

So, did you wake up today and decide to just start making s** up? Or do you do that everyday?

My goodness you make absurd, presumptuous assumptions with no basis for such. I shouldn’t expect more from you though.

How the hell do you know what I can bring myself to admit and what I can’t admit? That is mighty arrogant of you.

How the hell does your circular logic work so that you can post such inaccuracies about what I think based on what I just posted?

Oh, I know, you just hate liberals and everything associated with Bill Clinton - and if anyone challenges accusations made like the ones earlier from Mr. Headcase, you go into your neo-con brainwash programmed mind and start making up s** so you’ll feel better on the inside. Please spare me, the b******.

By Goldie

March 6, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 10:07 — I was at Obama’s rally at GA Tech last April, but could not get close enough to shake his hand… there were over 20,000 people in attendance even way back then! I did however get interviewed about the event by a local news channel afterward and I got that news segment recorded on videotape when I got home that evening — pretty cool.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

By Abomi Nation 9:53 AM

And with regard to the housing market and the economy, you just go on whining about it and crying about the sky falling. You and the libs have been crying doom and gloom from day 1 of Bush’s term. You have a losers mentality, dude. I suspect thats had a profound effect on your position in life. Try a mirror.

By @@

March 6, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

I love dem marshmallows burned ml. Makes them all the sweeter when consumed.

While the conservatives are “gooeying” McCain, the Democratic candidates will be “bloodying” one another in the process.

Mmmmmmmmmmm.

Works for me.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Goldie - Congress has much lower approval ratings than the President right now. I think Americans are more terrified of what the neo-Socialist, surrender-firsters wish to do than they are of continuing the policies of lower taxes, pro-economic growth and a strong national defense.

By Paul

March 6, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

ITN 10:11

You really are starting to sound like all the right-wingers attacking Clinton during the 90s. And later - many of them just couldn’t let go. Different time, different messenger, same message.

And some wonder why Obama with his message of change (read: not a lot of difference between many Dems and Reps) has such appeal?

By GOPher Think

March 6, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

luckovichisaheadcase

See the 10:06. GOPhers don’t seem to know that Times Square is in America. Pull your head outta the sand AND your azz, dimwit!!!

By Abomi Nation

March 6, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

No you bring the goods RB. You said that Americans are not happy with the Democrats in congress.

Why on earth would 55% still vote for Dems if they were that upset with them. You would think more than 41% would back Republicans.

You need to back up your statement with some facts.

If this 11% approval rating for congress were the fault of the Dems don’t you think the voters would want to see Republicans take over? Yet only 41% plan on voting Republican.

Sounds like a Dem landslide in the congressional races this November.

You sure like to have your questions answered. Start answering some yourself. Stock market? Real estate billboard? Congressional elections?

We’re waiting…………….

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Truthman, if Paul is correct (a HUGE if BTW) and there is a new face ahead for the GOP - one that is socially moderate, fiscally conservative and able to compromise - perhaps some will listen to reason and understanding that Bush’s legacy is going to be viewed as pretty awful.

That McCain is the Republican nominee is the first baby step in that direction towards a competent, sane GOP. And though the voters have CLEARLY seen the light and are kicking these fake and bumbling conservatives to the curb en masse, I don’t yet see any new/young Republicans who are ready to forswear this twisted neo-con agenda and plot a new course for that party.

And MUCH of how the nation will choose him or not, rides on McCain’s choice for VP!

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Paul,

“You really are starting to sound like all the right-wingers attacking Clinton during the 90s. And later - many of them just couldn’t let go. “

Um, you mean like RB and Mr. Headcase? They even like to tell us what WE are thinking too. Gee, I wish I had that superpower ability.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

But then I could try looking out from my ivory tower and see the US dollar fall lower than the Canadian dollar for the first time in over 30 years, and seeing how oil is tied to the dollar, we are all royally screwed, not to mention the housing market taking a dive, I guess I’m just pulling answers outta my you-know-what…

By GOPher Think

March 6, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Sorry folks, I ain’t a mornin person. Try it again…

luckovichisaheadcase: “But the fact remains, we have not had another domestic attack since Septebember 11, 2001.”

See the 10:06, headcase. GOPhers don’t seem to know that Times Square is in America. Pull your head outta the sand AND your azz, dimwit!!!

By AJC Management

March 6, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

What do you expect from someone who lives in Gwinnett, intelligent answers? ha ha ha ha ha

Yeah, right.

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

More of This is the failed Bush presidency: (2nd six months)

Cheney refuses to release records of energy task force meetings to the General Accounting Office.

Bush threatens to veto McCain-Kennedy patients’ bill of rights legislation.

Attorney General John Ashcroft announces a policy that would require gun records be destroyed one day after a background check rather than ninety days later.

Bush administration opposes UN treaty to curb international trafficking in small arms and light weapons.

Bush administration rejects international treaty on germ warfare and biological weapons.

(Aug. 6) Presidential Daily Briefing warns “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.”

Bush limits stem cell research to “existing lines.”

(Sept. 11) Terrorists crash hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing thousands.

Bush signs $15 billion airline bailout.

Bush signs the USA Patriot Act.

Justice Department acknowledges but won’t identify more than one thousand individuals, mostly immigrants, detained since September 11 attacks.

Ashcroft authorizes monitoring of attorney-client conversations in terrorism investigations.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Whoops I forgot one. Natural gas prices have increased 25% in Georgia this winter although supplies were more than adequate and there were no natural disasters. Thats a good thing, right?

By Goldie

March 6, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

We can always count on some trolls like DUH and HeadCase to post the same whinery day after day, which usually goes something like this:

“BLAH BLAH BLAH, Bill Clinton, BLAH BLAH BLAH, socialists, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, libruls, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH…”

How boring, and what a waste of blog-space Monday through Friday.

By Goldie

March 6, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

GOPher Think — I guess the trolls believe a “terrorist attack” can only come from Arabs… such small minds!

By N-GA

March 6, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Mike Lukovich - You are da bomb!!!

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Second hotel checked in Vegas ricin probe

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Bosch - I am almost always right when I tell you folks what I think that you are thinking. I have talked to too many of you and I have listened to way too much NPR. It isn’t a matter of having supernatural powers, it’s just a matter of knowing how (and what) you sychophants think! I really do believe that NPR must just take its ‘news’ verbatum from the DNC website!!

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Goldie - I note that you never counter the FACTS that I give back to you every day in reply to your inane rantings. Why is that? Is it that you have NONE to support your contentions that pacifism and socialism would work if only everybody would just think alike and do what the brilliant left-wing leaders tell them to do? Sychopant.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase,

Thanks for pointing out to everyone what kind of person you really are. Now we can all dismiss your posts of inane rants and scroll past them like we do Andy’s.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Ah, but then I’m reminded of the NYU study of conservatives and liberals, how conservatives failed because they, like insane people, use the same tactics over and over expecting different results. I guess that’s why the deficit has grown over the past 30 years of Republican administrations, why the job market has shrunk, and why Democrats always bail us out.

By Lib-E Loons

March 6, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Supply, demand and gas prices

When crude-oil prices rise, so do gasoline prices. When oil companies’ tax bills rise, so do gasoline prices.

Fortunately, this blatant political ploy has scant chance of becoming law. President Bush vowed last week to veto the bill if it also passes the Senate, and the 236-182 House margin fell far short of the two-thirds needed to override that.

However, the basic forces elevating them over the long term will remain in place. Removing nearly $2 billion a year in tax credits from Big Oil would hurt, not help. As a letter on this page points out, the oil industry would pass along its rising tax bills through increased costs to consumers.

The House legislation does provide tax credits for alternative energy development — a positive step. But the punitive tax hike on Big Oil would likely limit the industry’s overdue exploration and development of new domestic oil sources.

Yet global demand keeps growing. Over the long term, our best strategy against the economic menace of oil-price inflation remains the three-point plan of lowering our consumption of oil, raising our domestic oil production, and developing alternative energy sources.

That doesn’t mean we can drill or conserve our way out of this mess. It does mean common-sense changes are in order. Our attempts to solve our energy problems can’t succeed unless we find and develop more domestic sources — including oil — and intensify conservation.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Bosch - must have hit a nerve, right?

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

By Abomi Nation 10:24 AM

Abomi, a simple “I have no idea, I just heard that on CNN” would be fine next time.

You already supported my position of the 11% approval rating. That’s a fact. You disputed that fact saying it was because of R’s. Back it up.

The stock market numbers are available at yahoo, google, etc. Look it up. They go up and they go down. They’re up from 2001 when Bush took office. They’re down from this time last year. What is your point? Do you want some kind of communist guarantee they will always go up and never go down? Electing a Dem president won’t change your loser mentality, Abomi. Only you can change that.

By Lib-E Loons

March 6, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

..a week ago, President Bush touted tax breaks for oil companies that have just posted the largest profits in the history of American business. Yet he was dumbstruck when asked about the prospect of $4-a-gallon gasoline, a price that will force many families to choose between food and basic travel. “Wait — what did you just say?”, the president asked after a reporter solicited his advice for Americans facing that price, which was predicted by many analysts. “Oh, yeah?” Bush said. “That’s interesting. I hadn’t heard that.” He doesn’t get out much, understandably. But had the president been in California over the weekend, he would have found consumers paying what he apparently has yet to fathom — more than $4 a gallon at some stations. And then on Wednesday of this week, oil reached its all-time, inflation-adjusted high on the global market: $104 a barrel. Remember that number. Because when oil was half that price, three years ago, Bush said the market alone was sufficient incentive for Big Oil to make added investments. But now that the price is over the $100 mark, Bush wants to continue giving breaks to oil companies rather than shift those incentives to alternative fuels, as many in Congress would do.

By Lib-E Loons

March 6, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

For Exxon Mobil, there was $40.6 billion in incentive. That was their profit last year — earning $77,220 a minute. Fine. Greed is good. All hail the free-market and shareholders who are seeing a nice return on their oil stocks. But asking the American taxpayer to indirectly subsidize this is grand folly at a time when the world’s oil reserves will soon be in decline. Bush implied that the oil industry would not build new refineries without tax breaks. Wait a minute — they haven’t built a refinery for 32 years. What they have done is take refineries out of commission. Scarcity is also good, as Enron showed when they ginned up the phony California energy crisis seven years ago.

By Lib-E Loons

March 6, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

You libs are so fearful you’ll lose one thing that you’ll sacrifice all.

Idiots.

By mm

March 6, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

RB,

You are the dense dunce. Congress’ approval rating would be much higher if we didn’t have the GOP filibustering on a daily basis and Bush vetoing every bill.

The GOP political game is backfiring and the morons don’t even realize it.

By AJC Management

March 6, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

{{{{Just after Barack was elected to the United States Senate, Michelle received a large pay increase—from $121,910 in 2004 to $316,962 in 2005. “Mrs. Obama is extremely overpaid,” one citizen wrote in a letter to the editor of the Tribune, after the paper published a story questioning the timing of the award. “Now, what is the real reason behind such an inflated salary?” Her bosses at the University of Chicago Hospitals vigorously defended the raise, pointing out that it put her salary on a par with that of other vice-presidents at the hospital. (As it happens, Obama has spent most of her life working within the two institutions for which she most frequently claims a populist disdain: government and the health-care system.)}}}}

Gee, and we wonder why health care costs are so high.

~~~~~

{{{{But amid the screaming, raucous throng, the fact remains: Her message is a downer. It is completely negative. She helps predisposed audiences to bring their resentments into sharp focus, and explode. Any sense of achieving, or at least feeling, something new or fresh is what Mr. Obama brings to the table. She doesn’t. Other than tenacity, there isn’t much truly positive that wells up from Ku Klux Rodham. It may yet turn out that this woman and hard times are a strong match to win the Democratic Party’s nomination. If she does, that one big question will remain: Will the whole country want her?}}}}

~~~~~

The big lie, repeated over and over again:

{{{{But al-Qaida in Iraq has about as much to do with al-Qaida in Afghanistan as the San Diego Padres have to do with the Catholic Church. It’s a separate, independent and largely homegrown group that is focused on slaughtering Iraqi Shiites, not targeting American cities. And here’s a newsflash for McCain: It didn’t exist until our invasion created conditions favorable to violent insurgency.}}}}

Easy to deceive, that’s our libs:

{{{{The Recent Capture Of Al Qaeda In Iraq’s Most Senior Iraqi Official Reveals That The Group Is Led By Foreigners Who Are Trying To Deceive Others Into Thinking They Are Iraqis.}}}}

By Lib-E Loons

March 6, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

It’s hardly surprising that Bush had a bar-scan moment similar to his father’s befuddlement over something any first-grader could explain at a supermarket counter. But a man who is clueless about the price of a commodity so elemental to everyday life should not be giving advice on the value of that commodity. And it says something about the industry’s smarts if Bush, whom many Americans already see in the past tense, is the best advocate they’ve got. The world oil cartel snubbed him again this week on his pleas for more production. But no amount of Saudi hand-holding and pathetic groveling is going to change anything so long as we remain the top customer for their product.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

mm - you are in denial. Congress’s ratings are in the dumps because the policies espoused by Pelosi, Ried and Co. are unpopular in the extreme with the American people and their leadership is ineffective. Clinton pulled that same blame-game back in 1994 and it cost you folks control of Congress for 12 years. Wanna try the same failed policies and tactics again?

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

More of This is the failed Bush presidency (beginning Nov 2001 which should have been in the previous post):

Bush issues executive order blocking the release of presidential records.

Bush orders that “enemy combatants” be tried in military tribunals.

Justice Department issues regulations allowing illegal immigrants to be detained indefinitely if their release could pose “serious adverse foreign-policy consequences.”

Bush informs congressional leaders that he intends to pull out of the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty unilaterally.

Bush repeals “responsible contractor rule” that had required scrutiny of safety and environmental law violations in the awarding of federal contracts.

Cheney refuses to provide details of his multiple meetings with Enron officials.

In a memo to the president, White House counsel Alberto Gonzales writes that “the new paradigm” of the war on terror “renders obsolete” the Geneva Conventions’ “strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and renders quaint some of its provisions.”

White House unveils its “Clear Skies” initiative calling for voluntary reductions of three major pollutants; the plan would delay by a decade reductions required under existing law.

IRS records reveal increases in audits of the working poor; audits of large corporations and the rich drop to all-time lows.

News reports reveal that Bush activated a “shadow government” after September 11 attacks without telling Congress; civilian administrators are being sequestered in underground bunkers in case of a terrorist attack.

Bush’s welfare reform proposal advises paying “workfare” recipients less than the minimum wage.

Pentagon’s “Nuclear Posture Review” calls for new, “low-yield” nuclear weapons and lists seven “rogue” nations as possible targets for a nuclear attack.

Bush signs McCain-Feingold bill banning soft money behind closed doors, then departs immediately for a fund-raising trip.

Bush administration opposes the reappointment of climatologist Robert Watson as head on the UN Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change.

Office of Management and Budget prevents the EPA from declaring a public health emergency over dangerous asbestos fibers that come from a Montana mine and are used in insulation throughout the country.

Bush officials express support for the ouster of Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez; a day after Chavez retu

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase,

I would have to take you serious in order for you to hit a nerve. Please don’t flatter yourself on my account.

You’re a flaming hypocrit as demonstrated daily with your inane posts of GOP slobber.

Here’s a question for you? When have you ever supported anything you’ve said with a fact? Do you know what a fact is?

Here, I’ll help you out:

a. something put forth that is objectively real (do you know what objectively real means?)

b. something with real, demonstrable existence: actuality.

Can you grasp that concept?

Thanks in advance (as RW and Danish like to write).

By Copyleft

March 6, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

The snag of the Republican leadership choosing a moderate THIS election season is that they’re going to lose anyway…. and that’ll give ammo to the far-right nuts who will declare that “They lost because they weren’t conservative ENOUGH, like me!”

It would’ve been best for America if they nominated a Bush clone to go down in humiliating, inevitable defeat. That woud send a clearer message to the far-right nutzis that their day is done. As it is, they have a denial strategy ready to deploy in November.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

By luckovichisaheadcase 10:47 AM |

When I challenge Bosch’s mealy mouth garbage, I never get anything either. But I do ge the “how dare you” response just like I got earlier today.

Bill “gave up” his law license!!! That’s just rich, Bosch. LMAO.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

By luckovichisaheadcase 10:47 AM |

When I challenge Bosch’s mealy mouth garbage, I never get anything either. But I do ge the “how dare you” response just like I got earlier today.

Bill “gave up” his law license!!! That’s just rich, Bosch. LMAO.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

BTW, Mr. Headcase,

Ever come up with proof, indictments, or convictions regarding the Clinton’s fraudulent land deals or corrupt commodities deals as you presented earlier? Or did the facts of the situation get in the way of your slobber?

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

RB,

Challenge me on something real, like a fact (see definition above), and I’ll answer you.

Otherwise, you may need a slobber bib too.

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

Would Christ Carry a Concealed Weapon?

Barf-o-Rama

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

More of This is the failed Bush presidency:

Bush officials express support for the ouster of Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez; a day after Chavez returns to power, White House admits that U.S. officials had met with coup plotters.

Administration insiders admit military tactical errors allowed Osama bin Laden to escape December 2001 battle at Tora Bora.

EPA alters its definition of “fill material” to allow coal companies to dump rubble from “mountaintop removal” mining into valleys and streams.

Bush voids the U.S. signature on the treaty to establish an International Criminal Court.

Ashcroft removes restrictions on domestic spying by the FBI in counter-terrorism investigations; new guidelines permit monitoring of political and religious groups without probable cause.

President unveils “Bush doctrine” of preemptive war in a speech at West Point.

National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration weakens standards on under-inflated tires despite problems at Firestone that caused hundreds of deaths.

SEC Chairman Harvey Pitt says he’ll release the entire files on the investigation into Bush’s sale of $800,000 in Harken Energy stock if asked by the president; the president doesn’t ask.

Bush threatens to veto Homeland Security bill unless workers in the new department are stripped of civil service protections.

Bush administration issues new medical privacy regulations that don’t require patient consent to share records with insurance and pharmaceutical companies or restrict use of medical information for marketing purposes.

In a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Cheney says there is “no doubt” Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction and that Iraq could have nuclear weapons “fairly soon.”

Bush administration presents “Healthy Forests Initiative” that would allow more logging of old-growth forests by limiting environmental impact reviews and public comment.

Bush asks Congress for authority to use “all means that he determines to be appropriate” against Iraq.

ALL of this and it is still only Sept. 2002!

By Copyleft

March 6, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Fact: Congress’s low approval ratings stem from their inability to STOP or REPAIR the disastrous Republican blunders, primarily the war in Iraq.

“In terms of their overall approval rating, the damage is almost entirely among people who strongly oppose the war in Iraq.” http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3242551 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18612770/

The Democrats have failed to impeach Bush; heck, they haven’t even held him accountable, and have barely stood up to his insane agenda! THAT’s where the low approval ratings are coming from. Fact.

Anyone who tries to twist that into good news for the GOP is living in the fantasy BushWorld.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Bosch - yes. You could have looked them up as well. The McDoogals. Mrs. Clinton’s commodities broker as well. Governor Jim Guy Tucker. Deputy Attorney General Webb Hubbell. And the list goes on. But you don’t want to let facts get in the way of your breaking of that pesky commandment about worshiping false idols, do you?

By Bosch's 80 year old grandmother

March 6, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

RB,

I’ve been telling that Bosch for years now to watch that “mealy mouth” of his.

Where are my teeth?

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase,

Did either Clinton’s ever serve time?

No, they didn’t - so who gives a s** what happened to their friends. If there had been evidence to their guilt, believe me, the wolves would have found it.

Nice try though.

Worshipping false idols? Please, you need to go polish that brass statue of George Bush you have on your desk.

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

By mm 11:09 AM

{{{You are the dense dunce. Congress’ approval rating would be much higher if we didn’t have the GOP filibustering on a daily basis and Bush vetoing every bill.}}}

Nice try, mm. If Bush is vetoing bills to the dismay of the American people, HIS rating would be affected, not congress. Congress still remains in the toilet. Maybe you’d like to help Abomi out with the grand legislation the R’s in congress have prevented the dems from passing?

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Oh, I see grandma got out - I thought I had that damn door locked.

Challenge to RB and Mr. Headcase:

Name one crime Bill or Hillary Clinton have ever been convicted of.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

You folks who want to blame the GOP for Congress’s poor ratings really are the one’s living in a Clintonian pot haze (I know you folks don’t inhale1). You have a patheticly weak and inept Congressional leadership, possibly the worst in over 150 years! Pelosi and Reid look and sound like the fools that they are. They whine and complain about obstruction and then lambaste the Republicans. Where is all of the love and cumbahyah that they promised when elected. I thought they were going to put partisan rancor behind them. The fact is that the Republican leadership in Congress has been very successful in keeping their members focused and preventing the wholesale destruction of our economy and our military that the Demogogs had planned.

If you do mess up and win this election, it will be 30 years before Americans’ memories have faded enough to elect another left wing-nut government!!!

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

This is the failed Bush presidency:

Harvey Pitt resigns after failing to disclose that newly appointed accounting oversight board chairman William Webster had headed the audit committee of a firm accused of accounting improprieties and fraud.

Pentagon defends development of the “Total Information Awareness” system, a scheme developed by Iran-contra veteran John Poindexter to mine private data for terrorism clues.

Bush dismisses treasury secretary Paul O’Neill and economic adviser Lawrence Lindsey as the unemployment rate hits 6 percent.

Bush orders initial missile defense system to be in place by 2004.

Office of Management and Budget instructs Environmental Protection Agency to value the lives of senior citizens at 63 percent that of younger Americans in a cost-benefit analysis of imposing new air pollution regulations.

Bush administration issues guidelines that could exempt up to twenty million acres of “isolated” wetlands and seasonal streams from protection under the Clean Water Act.

Bush claims in his State of the Union speech that Saddam Hussein “recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”

Bush administration seeks exemptions to international treaty banning the ozone-depleting chemical methyl bromide for use on golf courses, among other things.

Secretary of State Colin Powell appears before the UN Security Council to make the case for war with Iraq.

U.N. official exposes as fakes documents showing Iraq attempted to buy uranium from Niger.

U.S. Army Corps of Engineers awards no-bid contract with a $7 billion limit to a Halliburton subsidiary for fighting possible oil well fires in Iraq.

War on Iraq begins.

Department of Labor proposes new overtime rules that could strip millions of extra pay by increasing the number of exempt “white-collar” workers.

Education Secretary Rod Paige says he prefers schools that have a “strong appreciation for the values of the Christian community.”

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

RB,

I guess you don’t take into consideration that once the President vetoes the bill, the Congress can’t override the veto.

You think that might have a little to do with the approval rating?

Ever take a Civics class?

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase,

“The fact is that the Republican leadership in Congress has been very successful in keeping their members focused and preventing the wholesale destruction of our economy and our military”

Oh stop it, that made me fall out of my chair laughing.

The fact? What the hell? Um, have you looked at economic indicators? Or do you just dismiss them? Our military is depleted, or do you just dismiss that fact too? Our country is practically bankrupt and we owe our souls to China - THAT’s what the Republican controlled Congress has given us.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Bosch - I could and will ask you the same question you asked RB: Ever taken a civics class? You answered your own question. Congress can override the veto. The fact is that they were not overridden because the American people did not want the crummy legislation passed to begin with. If there were such overwhelming support for the socialist policies of the Demagogs, then they would have passed. The Republicans, or at least enough of them, would have joined in. They did not. There is not this overwhelming support for a European style socialist welfare state that the Kerrys and Obamas of this world claim. Ever read a history book? If you had, you would know that crap doesn’t work.

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Perino: McCain and Bush have always been ‘buddies.

By Abomi Nation

March 6, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

{{{Only half way through the 110th Congress there have been 62 cloture votes to move beyond a filibuster, one more than the previous record set during the entirety of the 107th Congress in 2002.

The congressional gridlock has been glaringly reflected in public dissatisfaction. A recent Zogby poll reveals that only 13% of Americans have a positive view of congress. But a double digit majority says it prefers Democrats -not Republicans—running Capitol Hill.}}}

A simple Google search will provide plenty of examples on the subject of Republican obstructionism.

By Libs are socialists

March 6, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Don’t believe me?

Read the socialist candidate’s proposals.

Stewart A. Alexander Socialist Party USA Nominee for Vice President, and Candidate for nomination by the Peace and Freedom Party

Every freaking proposal is echoed by liberals here daily.

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Military officials worried about McCain’s ‘knee-jerk response factor’ —————————————-> “I like McCain. I respect McCain. But I am a little worried by his knee-jerk response factor,” said retired Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, who was in charge of training the Iraqi military from 2003 to 2004 and is now campaigning for Clinton. “I think it is a little scary. I think this guy’s first reactions are not necessarily the best reactions. I believe that he acts on impulse.” ————————————————> “I studied leadership for a long time during 32 years in the military,” said retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Scott Gration, a one-time Republican who is supporting Obama. “It is all about character. Who can motivate willing followers? Who has the vision? Who can inspire people?” Gration asked. “I have tremendous respect for John McCain, but I would not follow him.” ————————————————>“One of the things the senior military would like to see when they go visit the president is a kind of consistency, a kind of reliability,” explained retired Gen. Merrill McPeak, a former Republican, former chief of staff of the Air Force and former fighter pilot who flew 285 combat missions. McPeak said his perception is that Obama is “not that up when he is up and not that down when he is down. He is kind of a steady Eddie. This is a very important feature,” McPeak said. On the other hand, he said, “McCain has got a reputation for being a little volatile.” […] —————————————————> Retired Rear Adm. John Hutson, who has been a Republican his entire adult life, but who now supports Obama, put it this way about facing a national security crisis: “When everybody else goes nuts, the president of the United States needs to get cooler and cooler.”

](http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14800.html)

By HMMMMM

March 6, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Please GET SOME HELP! Open your eyes man/woman, or whatever. Bill was impeached! Hillary was a bigger crook than her so called husband! Good Grief. No wonder this country is in such a mess!

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 11:51 AM

Come on Bosch. You actually want us to believe congress is at 11% because they won’t (or “can’t” as you erroneously claim) override vetos? Are you sure the “fell out of my chair laughing” wasn’t from putting that in print? You can’t be serious. I know we don’t agree on a lot of things, but you’re smarter than that. I hope.

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

I’m just a bill

By RB from Gwinnett

March 6, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 11:51 AM

Come on Bosch. You actually want us to believe congress is at 11% because they won’t (or “can’t” as you erroneously claim) override vetos? Are you sure the “fell out of my chair laughing” wasn’t from putting that in print? You can’t be serious. I know we don’t agree on a lot of things, but you’re smarter than that. I hope.

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Florida and Michigan will not change

Statement from Howard Dean today:

“As we’ve said all along, we strongly encourage the Michigan and Florida state parties to follow the rules, so today’s public overtures are good news.”

“First, either MI or FL can choose to resubmit a plan and run a party process to select delegates to the convention; second, they can wait until this summer and appeal to the Convention Credentials Committee, which determines and resolves any outstanding questions about the seating of delegates.”

“We will review those plans at that time. The Democratic Nominee will be determined in accordance with party rules, and out of respect for the presidential campaigns and the states that did not violate party rules, we are not going to change the rules in the middle of the game.”

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Bosch - stop listening to NPR and CNN and look up some facts. Unemployment is at 5%. That is still below the averages of the wonderful Clinton years. Yes gas prices are up, but that in large part is owing to the Democrat obstructionism vis-a-vis the drilling in ANWR and off the west coast and in the Gulf of Mexico. Yes we do need to develop alternative fuels, but until that time we must use oil. Don’t complain about the price and then turn around and say we cannot drill for more. You folks don’t make any sense when you make those arguments. We have had six years of unprecedented prosperity. The job market has actually expanded in this country. We would not have 12 million illegals here if that were not so. Get your head out of the sand and look around. You Democrats would tax us into poverty and then blame the rich for the fact that no one has a job. You would compound the problem further with protectionists trade policies a la Hawley-Smoot. You try what has been tried and has failed over and over again and you then say that the Republicans get it wrong. You also forget that it was Republicans who balanced the budget in the 1990s - Clinton was literally forced to go along. I hate to confuse you folks with facts, but there it is.

By Mental Midget

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

What happens if you hit this “post” button more than once???

By Mental Midget

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

What happens if you hit this “post” button more than once???

By Mental Midget

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

What happens if you hit this “post” button more than once???

By Mental Midget

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

What happens if you hit this “post” button more than once???

By Mental Midget

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

What happens if you hit this “post” button more than once???

By Mental Midget

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

What happens if you hit this “post” button more than once???

By Mental Midget

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

What happens if you hit this “post” button more than once???

By Mental Midget

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

What happens if you hit this “post” button more than once???

By Mental Midget

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

What happens if you hit this “post” button more than once???

By Mental Midget

March 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

What happens if you hit this “post” button more than once???

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

Mar 5, 2008 10:46 PM March 4th delegate estimates - Obama won Texas

Here’s the latest estimate from the campaign:

• Texas: 100 Obama (62 primary/38 caucus), 93 Clinton (64 primary/29 caucus)

• Ohio primary: 66 Obama, 75 Clinton

• Rhode Island primary: 8 Obama, 13 Clinton

• Vermont primary: 9 Obama, 6 Clinton

A few smaller papers are reporting this, but the major outlets are still giving major exposure of a Texas win to Clinton based on the primary results only. Hope this helps clarify the last bulletin regarding Obama winning more delegates in Texas.

I think it’s safe to say that Obama won Texas!

Clinton did not pick up what she needed from Texas and Ohio, and is in worse position delegate-wise than before March 4th contests. See Hillary’s New Math Problem for more info.

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Mar 5, 2008 10:46 PM March 4th delegate estimates - Obama won Texas

Here’s the latest estimate from the campaign:

• Texas: 100 Obama (62 primary/38 caucus), 93 Clinton (64 primary/29 caucus)

• Ohio primary: 66 Obama, 75 Clinton

• Rhode Island primary: 8 Obama, 13 Clinton

• Vermont primary: 9 Obama, 6 Clinton

A few smaller papers are reporting this, but the major outlets are still giving major exposure of a Texas win to Clinton based on the primary results only. Hope this helps clarify the last bulletin regarding Obama winning more delegates in Texas.

I think it’s safe to say that Obama won Texas!

Clinton did not pick up what she needed from Texas and Ohio, and is in worse position delegate-wise than before March 4th contests. See Hillary’s New Math Problem for more info.

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Why Republicans are Filibustering Everything

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

Hmmmmm,

Bill was impeached, not removed from office - in other words, he was put on trial, and found not guilty.

Hillary was a bigger crook than her husband? What was she convicted of? What did she get sent to prison for? Gee, you’d think that if she was such a crook as you GOP slobbering idiots say, she’d be sucking in the polls right now. Guess what? She’s not!

RB and Mr. Headcase,

I’m not a big poll person, but that argument is just as sound as yours.

You want us to believe otherwise? That’s simply your opinion, like I asked you earier, back up your opinion with a fact, just one little bitty FACT, and then you might have some credibility.

(On a side note to everyone else: chuckle, chuckle, I don’t even LIKE the Clintons - they never passed the “smell test” with me, just like Bush doesn’t - I just like to point out the absurd to presumptuous hypocrits)

Later folks!

By Anti-Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse - I know that you want to believe that none of the major news organizations are reporting this, but these are AP figures and I have been reading them on Fox and in the AJC all day and saw it on Fox and CNN last night. Pay attention.

However, the fact remains that Hillary won the most votes. The way the Democrats have set up their nominating system is quite undemocratic. However, that is in the party tradition. Remember this is the party that had the 2/3rds rule for 100 years and once took over 100 ballots to nominate a pro-Klan candidate in 1924 - John W. Davis, who was also the lead attorney in defense of the South Carlina and Kansas districts which were the defendants in Brown v. Topeka Board of Education.

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

And the beat goes on:

EPA repeals “New Source Review” rule that had required electric utilities to install anti-pollution equipment when making major upgrades at coal-fired power plants.

Sept. 2003 Job losses over the past three years top 2.7 million.

Bush asks Congress for another $87 billion to fund the occupation of Iraq. (on top of the original $79 billion)

Bush finally admits there is no evidence tying Saddam Hussein to September 11 attacks.

FCC approves the merger of Univision and Hispanic Broadcasting, handing over 80 percent of the Spanish-language radio and television market to one company.

Congress bans late-term abortions.

U.N. official warns of “a palpable risk that Afghanistan will again turn into a failed state, this time in the hands of drug cartels and narco-terrorists.”

13,000 Arab and Muslim immigrants are in deportation proceedings as a result of special registration programs; none has been charged in connection to terrorism.

Senate blocks energy bill, a massive boondoggle that traces its origins to Cheney’s secretive energy task force and would provide billions of dollars in subsidies to some of Bush’s biggest supporters in the oil and gas, coal, and electric utility industries.

FBI admits collecting intelligence on antiwar protesters.

Congressional Republicans and the White House agree to a “compromise” media ownership cap of 39 percent—ensuring that neither Viacom nor News Corp. will be forced to sell any television stations.

Senate passes $400 billion, Bush-backed Medicare bill, which guarantees a prescription drug benefit starting in 2006 but prevents the government from negotiating lower prices with pharmaceutical companies.

Medicare chief Tom Scully announces he’s stepping down to consider job offers from three lobbying and two investment firms.

Bush administration opens 300,000 acres of old-growth timber in Alaska’s Tongass National Forest to logging.

After first case of “mad cow” disease is detected in the United States, USDA bans sale of “downer” cattle—a measure quashed by the agency just weeks earlier.

Interior Department opens nearly nine million acres of wilderness on Alaska’s North Slope to oil drilling.

Chief U.S. weapons inspector David Kay resigns, saying he doesn’t believe Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction ever existed.

Bush administration reports that the new Medicare law

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase,

One more thing before I leave - I’m not a Democrat, again, you make the wrong assumptions.

I love the use of the word “you” so many times in reference to me - didn’t your grammar school teacher the proper use of that word? You are misdirecting that word. Again, you are presuming something that I think and do which is totally erroneous.

Your use of sweeping generalizations to describe a group of people really shows your inability to think independently.

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

ATTENTION EVERYONE ON THIS BLOG:

Unless you are Bosch,ITN,Paul,Jbmlaw,and maybe Glenn please do not respond to me.

If you are not one of the said individuals, the Apocalypse has deduced that you have a 75-90 percent chance of posting something incredibly stupid and irrelevant.

Thank you for your cooperation

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Oh, and AmVet may respond to me as well.

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Fe. 2004 - Bush administration reports that the new Medicare law will cost at least $530 billion over 10 years, 30 percent more than Congress was told it would cost.

Bush relents and appoints commission on pre-war intelligence, calls for it to report findings after the presidential election.

President’s Council of Economic Advisers suggests positions at fast-food restaurants should be counted as manufacturing jobs.

A group of 60 top U.S. scientists, including a dozen Nobel Prize winners, accuses the Bush administration of “misrepresenting and suppressing scientific knowledge for political purposes.”

Rod Paige calls the National Education Association a “terrorist organization.”

Medicare actuary says Bush administration threatened to fire him if he told Congress that the White House Medicare plan would cost more than $400 billion.

At the Radio and Television Correspondents’ dinner Bush presents slides of himself looking under tables and out the windows of the Oval Office while commenting “Those weapons of mass destruction must be somewhere!” and “Nope, no weapons over there!”

After two years of stonewalling, Bush releases declassified version of the Aug. 6, 2001, Presidential Daily Briefing warning “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in U.S.”

In just the third prime-time press conference of his term, Bush is stumped when asked to name one mistake he’s committed since September 11. He replies, “I’m sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with an answer, but it hasn’t yet.”

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz tells Congress the number of U.S soldiers who have died in Iraq is “approximately 500, of which—I can get the exact numbers—approximately 350 are combat deaths.” The actual figures: 722 soldiers killed, 521 of them in combat.

Bush and Cheney appear together behind closed doors in the Oval Office to answer questions from commissioners on the September 11 attacks panel.

Sinclair Broadcasting refuses to air “Nightline” broadcast reading the names of the U.S. dead in Iraq on its ABC affiliates.

FDA blocks RU-486, the “morning after pill,” from being sold over the counter.

General Accounting Office rules that taxpayer-funded “video news releases” touting the Medicare bill are illegal covert propaganda.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Bosch - I have given you a wealth of facts and you ignore them. Hillary has been surrounded (as has Slick Willie) with corruption. Just as the crook Lyndon Johnson escaped indictment and conviction, so has she. One is known by the company they keep. However, if you don’t like Bush’s policie, just say so. He has never personally been involved in any of the very minor scandals in his career. Obama and the Clintons have their finger prints all over the ones surrounding them. It’s hard out there bein’ a pimp.

By Hide your wallets if the Dems win

March 6, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

The Demos have just released their blueprint by which they would balance the budget by allowing the Bush tax cuts for the rich (anyone making over $50,000 a year) to expire. Too bad they know nothing about dynamic scoring and how raising taxes will actually cause economic hardship rather than help anyone in the long term. They also are full of it because the spending increases proposed by Clinton and Obama would more than whipe out this projected (fictional) revenue. All I can think of is the quite ill-advised 1990-1991 tax hikes which plunged this country into recession because the Democrat Congress insisted on ‘taxing the rich.’ The rich quit spending and the middle class suffered. You folks will never learn.

By AJC Management

March 6, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Ahhh, yes, the fond memories come flooding back:

{{{{“When Senator Obama was confronted with questions over whether he was ready to be Commander-in-Chief and steward of the economy, he chose not to address those questions, but to attack Senator KKKlinton,” Wolfson said. “I for one do not believe that imitating Ken Starr is the way to win a Democratic primary election for president.”}}}}

{{{{Wolfson was attacking Obama’s explicit strategy, in the wake of his March 4 losses, to attack elements of Ku Klux’s record on the grounds of secrecy, and to revisit the questions raised by Klinton foes in the 1990s and earlier. ——>Obama has demanded Klinton’s tax returns, cited delays in releasing her White House schedules, and even made reference to trades in cattle futures in the late 1970s that became a subject of allegations during the White House years.<——}}}}

Good luck with that, Obambi.

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse, thank you for correcting that egregious omission!

CIA Director George Tenet resigns because of the “well-being of my wonderful family—nothing more, nothing less.”

John Ashcroft refuses to give the Senate Judiciary Committee a Justice Department memo outlining a legal justification for the torture of suspected terrorists.

U.S. commission investigating September 11 finds “no credible evidence” linking Saddam Hussein to the attacks; Dick Cheney continues to claim “overwhelming evidence” of a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda.

Supreme Court rules that Dick Cheney doesn’t have to give up records of secretive energy task force, sends case back to a lower court.

In a secret ceremony—held two days ahead of schedule to thwart attacks—United States hands over formal sovereignty of Iraq to interim government; U.S. administrator L. Paul Bremer declares Iraq “a much better place” and immediately leaves the country.

Supreme Court rules against the Bush administration, insisting that “enemy combatants”—whether U.S. citizen or foreigners—must be allowed to challenge their imprisonment before an American judge.

Republican-controlled National Labor Relations Board reverses earlier decision and rules that graduate teaching assistants at private universities do not have the right to organize unions.

Bush administration lawyers move to block lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies and medical device makers, arguing that consumers may not seek damages for injuries received from products approved by the FDA.

After 24 years in Afghanistan, the humanitarian group Doctors Without Borders pulls out of the country; the group criticizes U.S. forces for endangering aid workers by using humanitarian assistance as “a support for its military and political ambitions.”

Republican Party requires a signed endorsement of the president before giving out tickets to New Mexico campaign rally starring Dick Cheney.

Bush issues 20 recess appointments, skirting Senate approval to install, among others, a new head of the Federal Trade Commission, a new manufacturing czar, and three new ambassadors—two of whom are major Bush fundraisers.

By Socialist Party Proposals

March 6, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

“Recently, I presented a plan that would address the need of working people and would prevent the oil companies from gouging working people at the pumps.”

“First, we must end the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. These wars, whose tremendous cost is not offset by taxes, are the immediate cause of the weakness of the dollar, skyrocketing oil prices, and the widening trade deficit, as well as being a pointless waste of precious lives.”

Sound familiar?

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By Socialist Party Proposals

March 6, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

“To break the stranglehold of the big energy corporations and associated financial institutions on our government and economy; the oil companies, natural resources, including oil must be brought under public ownership and democratically managed by the people, not controlled and owned by private corporations.”

Government regulations=Government control.

Sound familiar?

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By Socialist Party Proposals

March 6, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

“We must put an end to the present housing market crisis; action must be taken quickly, or the damage will spread quickly. The federal government needs to take action to protect the millions of Americans that could lose their homes in 2008 and 2009, and shift the cost of this disaster from working people to the financial operators who created the problem.”

Sound familiar?

Even Bush fell for this one.

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By Socialist Party Proposals

March 6, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

“An immediate change in tax policy must reverse the trend of the last thirty years of shifting the tax burden to those least able to pay. Income taxes should end on individuals earning less than $30,000 annually and couples earning less than $60,000 annually, and increased federal taxes on those with incomes in the millions, who pay less proportionately than they have for a century, must replace this revenue.”

Sound familiar?

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By Socialist Party Proposals

March 6, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

“A real national rebuilding program is needed. The federal government must invest $3 trillion within the next five years and a total of $5 trillion over the next decade to rebuild the nation’s utilities, communications, and rail infrastructure, refurbish public buildings, strengthen bridges, and repair low income housing across America.”

Sound familiar?

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Two days after the Democratic convention, Tom Ridge raises terror alert level to “orange” for New York and Washington; heightened security based on three- to four-year-old intelligence.

At a ceremony to sign a $417 billion Defense appropriations bill, Bush tells the assembled Pentagon brass: “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”

With two months left in fiscal year 2004, federal deficit hits a record $395.8 billion.

FBI acknowledges interviewing dozens of people in at least six states about protests planned for the Republican National Convention; officials insist they’re only targeting crimes, not political dissent.

Bush-Cheney campaign’s top outside counsel admits advising the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

For third consecutive year, more Americans in poverty and without health insurance; national poverty rate hits 12.5 percent, 45 million people lack health coverage.

Dick Cheney declares at a campaign stop in Iowa: “It’s absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, that we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we’ll get hit again.”

1,001 U.S. soldiers killed during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

President Bush and House Republicans allow the federal ban on assault weapons to expire.

Iranian official announces that the country could resume uranium enrichment “within a few months”; Britain’s Royal Institute of International Affairs concludes “the real long-term geopolitical winner of the ˜War on Terror’ could be Iran.”

Donald Rumsfeld hints that Iraqi election may be limited to three-fourths of the country because of increasing violence. “If there were to be an area where the extremists focused during the election period, so be it,” he testifies before the Senate. “You have the rest of the election and you go on. Life’s not perfect.”

Standing beside Prime Minister Allawi in the Rose Garden, Bush claims “nearly 100,000 fully trained and equipped Iraqi soldiers, police officers, and other security personnel are working today”; Pentagon documents show only 8,169 have completed full, eight-week training.

Iraqi Health Ministry statistics show U.S. and allied forces and Iraqi police are killing twice the number of Iraqis—mostly civilians—as the insurgents; officials announce that Health Ministry

By Socialist Party Proposals

March 6, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

“The federal government must invest in constructing low income housing, providing jobs for low income families and providing good paying jobs for women and men.”

Sound familiar?

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By Socialist Party Proposals

March 6, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

“The federal government must develop programs to relieve working people from the tremendous debt burden that modern capitalism constantly creates. We need universal health care, free education for college students, a universal basic income, and fully comprehensive assistance for the aging.”

Sound familiar?

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By The Honorable President George W. Bush

March 6, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

I’m uh thinking of perhaps maybe persoo, um puursu, trying for a career as a ummm public speaker when my term is dunn so I can spread my errrrrrrrrrr lernin to evaree won in Amerika because you no a mind is a teari, terryb, bad thing to waist.

By Socialist Party Proposals

March 6, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

“The laws that tilt the scales against union organizing needs to be repealed or changed; this will give freedom to millions of workers to fight effectively for better wages, hours and working conditions.”

Sound familiar?

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By Socialist Party Proposals

March 6, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

“Public transportation and electric vehicles must be developed to meet the needs of our people in the 21st Century. This will not be fully accomplished without public ownership under democratic management, as only in this way can the drive for private profit at the expense of society and the environment must be defeated.”

Sound familiar?

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By Historian

March 6, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Interesting bit of trivia - every presidential election ever held on November 4 has been won by a Republican, going back to 1896 - McKinley (1896), Coolidge (1924), Eisenhowe (1952), Reagan (1980). Look forward to a McCain victory in November.

By Socialist Party Spokesman

March 6, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

I am an idiot because I say:

“Senators Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton are rehashing the old political rhetoric that the Democrats have coined to win elections every four years. However, in 2008, working people are searching for real solutions to complex issues; ending the Iraq War, solving the national mortgage lending crisis, creating jobs, the need for affordable health care, and dealing with a global industry that is beyond the control of the Democrats.

Unfreakinbelievable!

IT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE PROPOSING.

DEMOCRATS & SOCIALISTS ARE TWO PEAS IN THE SAME POD.

YOU LIBS ARE IDIOTS BUYING INTO THIS BS.

LISTEN TO NORMAN THOMAS. HE HAD YOU TAGGED FOR THE LEMMINGS YOU ARE.

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” — Norman Thomas

By mm

March 6, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

RB at 11:44,

Bush’ ratings WERE affected. But he didn’t have to fall very far to get to 19%

By getalife

March 6, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

“THE CLINTON BLUEPRINT FOR VICTORY:

It’s National Security Stupid!”

Told ya. She is strong and Obama is weak.

Not this cycle gop, you will lose in a landslide.

Your vote for Obama earned him VP.

Clinton/Obama.

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Oct. 2004 - One-third of “individual ready reserve” soldiers called up by the Army to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan fail to report for duty.

Chief U.S. weapons inspector Charles Duelfer reports that Iraq had no biological or chemical weapons and no nuclear program before the U.S. invasion; in fact, Duelfer finds no evidence that Iraq had produced any WMDs after 1991.

Program on International Policy Attitudes shows that vast majorities of Bush supporters believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and gave Al Qaeda “substantial support” or was directly involved in September 11. Bush backers also think the majority of the world supported the U.S. invasion.

Aboard Air Force One, with no public ceremony, Bush signs $136 billion corporate tax cut bill—which includes special pork-barrel earmarks for tobacco companies, oil refineries, SUV buyers, Home Depot ceiling fans and much, much more.

Iraqi interim government announces that 380 tons of explosives vanished from the Al Qaqaa facility after the U.S. invasion, when the site was not secured despite warnings from U.N. weapons inspectors.

And three and a half years later the litany sadly continues.

For all of the folks who voted for GWB (some unbelievably even did it twice!) I can say that this is not the America that I envisioned as a 17 year old enlistee in 1972.

Enough is enough!

This utterly non-conservative GOP has demonstrated that unless and until it has a major epiphany it simply can’t be trusted to act in the best interests of the nation any further.

McCain’s nomination is confirmation of this belief among Americans and it is a baby step in the right direction.

But it is time to get rid of the corporate-owned wh0res and the inept and deadly chickenhawks in Washington who have profited at the nation’s expense.

By AJC Management

March 6, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

{{{{Liberals believe, often accurately, that if they say the same thing over and over again 1 billion times, people will believe it: “Bush lied, kids died,” “We’ve lost in Iraq,” “Reagan is stupid,” “Bush is stupid,” “Republicans are stupid,” “Global warming is destroying the planet,” “Gloria Steinem is good-looking” and — their most provably false assertion — “Bill Clinton is the most talented politician of his generation.”}}}}

By Historian

March 6, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Socialist Party Spokesman - you are right of course. I just looked up Norman Thomas and the Socialist party’s current platform and you are quite accurate. However, there is none so blind as he who will not see and liberals are as blind as fish in a cave.

By John in Tampa, FLA

March 6, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Since I am no longer allowed to converse with Apocalypse this will be my final post. It’s been fun folks…bye all, especially you Amvet.

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

I find it amusing when the troll talks to itself! (1:30 and 1:50)

Does he think we believe that there are endless lines of evil GOP minions lined up to agree with his nonsense?

Desperation thy name is troll.

By One Hung Lo

March 6, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Helping out with housework leads to more sex. Dang, that’s…oops, wrong blog. Sorry, I am always getting politics and sex mixed up.

By Historian

March 6, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

I just wanted to correct an inaccuracy. I just checked the dates again, and the election of 1896 was held on November 3. The other dates are accurate. Enjoy your Republican adminstration. This also means that elections held on November 6 were also won by Republicans, so enjoy the next eight years of Republican administrations, y’all.

By HEY HITLER!

March 6, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS IS AN IDIOT!

POWERFUL AND CONTINUING NATIONALISM - Because we were attacked by an enemy outside our borders. An enemy that is obscured and widespread? An enemy that is attacking not only the U.S. but every western democracy? YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

DISDAIN FOR THE RECOGNITION OF HUMAN RIGHTS - Human rights are guaranteed by our constitution and honored here in the U.S. Circumstances change with enemy combatants but even then the U.S. doesn’t come close to the human rights violations exercised by communist leaders for no apparent reason. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

IDENTIFICATION OF ENEMIES/SCAPEGOATS AS A UNIFYING CAUSE - The SOBS killed 3,000 of our citizens not to mention previous attacks over the last 30 years. There’s an African American and a woman running for president. We have Muslims in Congress. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

SUPREMACY OF THE MILITARY - DAMN STRAIGHT! In defensive preparation of those countries that choose to amplify theirs. Soldiers and military service isn’t glamorized, it’s appreciated. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

RAMPANT SEXISM - We’ve got females holding high-ranking positions. We’ve got homosexuals serving in Congress. Hitler killed children and so do libs. Legal recourse is afforded to everyone in this country. Discrimination is not judicially tolerated. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

CONTROLLED MASS MEDIA - The majority of media is out of control in this country and libs are buying their b******. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

OBSESSION WITH NATIONAL SECURITY - WAR HAS BEEN WAGED AGAINST US. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

RELIGION AND GOVERNMENT ARE INTERTWINED - Every religion imaginable is allowed in this country. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

CORPORATE POWER IS PROTECTED - Capitalism is essential to a robust economy. Corporate wrongs are righted in the courts. The law is applied as it is written, not as you wish for. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

LABOR POWER IS SUPPRESSED - Labor Power serves the unions, not the workers. Labor Power puts companies out of business thereby putting workers out of a job. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

DISTAIN FOR INTELLECTIONS AND THE ARTS - Since when? YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

OBSESSION WITH CRIME AND PUNISHMENT - Crime should be punished otherwise you have chaos. We have an appeals process in this country. You can take your case all the way to the Supreme Court. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

RAMPANT CRONYISM

By Political Junkie

March 6, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS - How is it good news that Martin is running? You already have a couple of losers running. Martin has already LOST a statewide race, even if it was by a smaller margine than the Big (Fat) Guy. He will lose by between 15 to 20 per cent to Chambliss. The Republicans have a better chance of beating Kerry in Massachusetts this year.

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Just a little longer and we watch the troll

go

over

the

edge

weeeeeeeeeee

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

ITN, that post at 2:18 makes my day!

Just the thought of getting rid of “Blood & Guts” Chambliss is exciting!

As you probably know, for me, he represents the VERY worst of this neo-conical GOP aberration!

But, alas, we are dealing with voters firmly entrenched in the Moron Belt mentality…

And John in Tampa, DON’T GO! But if you’ve really made up your mind, you will be missed.

By HEY HITLER!

March 6, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS IS AN IDIOT!

I see this site has placed a limit on speech. Cont’d:

RAMPANT CRONYISM AND CORRUPTION - That’s government for you and you want to give it total control. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

FRAUDULENT ELECTIONS - Prove it. Looks like Hillary and Obama had a hand in that in Ohio and Texas. The Democrats whole process allows for the vote to be taken away from the people and put in the hands of a select few. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!

You ARE an idiot IN THE NEWS. You fear government and want to relinquish control of your daily existence TO THE GOVERNMENT.

It’s unfreakingbelievable just how dumb you are.

By IN THE NEWS

March 6, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Junkie….

I just KNOW how said it would be for you at the Chambliss victory party this year if Martin were to win.

AmVet…..

I think we can take that PIG out.

By AJC Hall Monitor

March 6, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

AJC needs an IDIOT MONITOR, i.e. someone who can limit number of words said idiot can post each time the IDIOT posts. Said idiot should have one name. Post new requirements and I’ll bet all SANE bloggers would readily agree and comply, and IDIOTS would need to double up on their meds!

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Okay, I’m back -

Mr. Headcase - I’d like to address some of your earlier concerns:

“Unemployment is at 5%. That is still below the averages of the wonderful Clinton years.”

If you’ll look at this chart whose source is the Bureau of Labor Statistics, you’ll see that when Clinton took office in 1992, unemployment was way up there, looks to me like around 7.7%, and see how the line drops, down, down, down while he was in office. Now, is it really fair to Clinton to say unemployment was higher during that time when he inherited an almost 8% unemployment rate when he took office?

The drilling in ANWR:

Isn’t that like giving a heroin addict methodone? I mean, yes, it gets the addict off heroin, but then they just become addicted to methodone - it doesn’t cure the actual bigger picture problem of addiction.

RW and I have discussed this before and I actually agreed with him about something he proposed: I’d be all for drilling in ANWR, if certain tangible benchmarks were met concerning research, development, and IMPLEMENTATION of alternative fuels - and I don’t just mean ethanol - again, that’s like giving a heroin addict, say, marijuana to smoke - it’s really not the best idea.

“We have had six years of unprecedented prosperity”

Which six years are you talking about? Certainly not the past six years. That is your opinion, back it up with some facts, and I’ll listen to your argument, but considering your own false hero Bush is now starting to use the “recession” word, your argument falls on deaf ears.

“The job market has actually expanded in this country”

But what kind of jobs?

“You forget that it was Republicans who balanced the budget in the 1990s”

Um, hell yes, I must have forgetton that one - please provide a source to refresh my memory. The Republicans? Do you mean Congress because I think there were still a few Democrats in there, and Clinton was President.

Do you see where I’m going with this? Your “points” are not FACTS, they are simply your opinion. You really do need to learn the difference.

You can claim you lay out facts, but it simply isn’t true - I’m sorry, but just because you type it,

By Paul

March 6, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

ITN 12:07

You gotta lay off the lalaland left websites for sources! The generals who have “reservations” about McCain are working for a Dem nominee, while the one who has reservations about Obama is “unhinged.”

LOLOLOL!

BTW - of that group - the Dem supporters - the one with credibility is McPeak. He’s cochair of Obama’s reelection effort, was AF Chief of Staff who radically reorganized the AF based on what he saw ahead - and the guy has more than his fair share of critics - other senior officers. But if he’s okay with Obama - well, as I said, Gen McPeak’s opinion, for me, carries a tremendous amount of weight.

So the fact a general criticizes your political opponent is nothing to hang your hat on (I can’t believe that web site used as a “source” an Army general who was in charge of training the Iraqi military a few years back. If that’s the best he can do… no wonder he retired).

Apocalypse 12:33

Bill O Reilly had Dick Morris on last night. Went through the numbers, stated it was virtually impossible for Hillary to get enough delegates and Obama would more than likely take it.

Also put up a couple of US maps - went through the latest polling data, state by state, said Obama would be a much, much stronger candidate.

But it was Fox News and o’Reilly. So you know it’s all a lie…//sarc//

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

John in Tampa -

There are others here on the blog who will converse with ya!

By Political Junkie

March 6, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

I used to know Republicans just as deluded as you and AmVet. They would actually go on and on about how they were going to beat Sam Nunn or Hummun Tammidge. Of course, one day they were finally right, but they at least had the political tide and the tide of history on their side. You have neither. It will be a very long time before a Democrat wins a major political office statewide in Georgia. Dream on. You are an even more hopeless case than a Republican in Massachusetts - they won four in a row!!!

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase ‘continued:

Last sentence:

I’m sorry, but just because you type it, doesn’t make it a reality or even remotely true.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Whoops! Nevermind what I said about unemployment rates in my 2:45 - it seems that only applies to tech jobs - sorry for the mistake.

See, I’m man enough to admit when I screw up.

By Paul

March 6, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

John in Tampa

Stay. Please.

all - lots of Hitler stuff here today. Might as well add my two cents. The song is from Disney, but you’ll have to put up with an adaptation to other visuals:

Link: Der Fuehrer’s Face

Bosch From the other night: it could be done state level, but the state-to-state inequities would still exist. But it’d be a start. Would still face the same issues of locals who are interested in power and control, though.

There are some things the Fed gov’t is very, very good at. And in this case it’d be economies of scale. Take 500 teachers in a district. Now look at the support staff for training, hiring, assigning, payroll, etc. Say that’s 1000 people. Now multiply that by 100 districts. Same number of teachers, but the support staff would be way less than 10,000- (with automated systems, 10 people running a payroll system can handle 800 records about as easily as 200).

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Six years of unprecedented prosperity Bosch. Yes. We have had six years. Unemployment has been low. The stock market did hit historic highs, even adjusted for inflation. The fact that we have 12 million illegals will tell you something about the availability of employment. More people own their own homes than ever. Yes, many are having some problems, but even at that only 2% are in any danger of foreclosure.

As far as ANWR and the Gulf, what do you propose that we do in the meantime? Should we starve to death in the dark? You say we should develop alternative fuels, but that is in the future. We must plan, true. But we also must live in the here and now. Your arguments against drilling are actually contradictory.

In the end, the marketplace will find a solution, as it always does.

As for that great Clinton prosperity, the last recession started in the last year of his administration. We came out of it and had this wonderful six years because we lowered the taxes he raised. We came out of the 1991-1992 recession not because of what Clinton did, but because of the policies of the Reagan years. Clinton’s raising of taxes on the Middle Class instead of a Middle Class tax cut prolonged the agony.

The fact is that class warfare never works. The poor just suffer all the more because NO ONE EVER GOT A JOB FROM A POOR MAN. The only alternative is ‘government work’, and we all know how well socialism works at creating a workers’ paradise. Ask the Russians and the Chinese!

By AmVet

March 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Junk in the Trunk, I made no inference to the likelihood that Chambliss would be unseated.

I suggested as much with my reference to Georgia being in the “Moron Belt”.

I simply stated I personally would be overjoyed to see that gutless never-served, never-will lying POS gone.

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Bosch - what I typed is true. Just saying something is not true does not make it false. I guess it all depends on what the meaning of is is? Isn’t that what you libs say?

By luckovichisaheadcase

March 6, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

AmVet - you prove once again that you are the gutless wonder. Bill the Jerk never served one day and bragged about the fact that he hated (and still does) the military. By your logic, no one should ever question the views of a veteran. Then you should vote early and often for McCain over either Hitlery or Barak bin Obama as neithe one of them even got close to serving. You would also have disqualified James Madison, Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt from being commanders-in-chief because they never served. You are a hypocrite and you need to wash your mouth out with some Lysol.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Economies of scale - let’s see, I remember that term way back in my Economics 101 class, but ————— nope, not coming back to me. Sorry.

Math isn’t my thing - so I’ll try and follow along - isn’t 1000 x 100 = 100,000? What is the 10,000 for? Are you getting into algebra here, because then your WAY over my head.

Same number of teachers per district? That’s not really feasible, now is it? I mean you would have to have more teachers in Fulton County, then say, oh, Coffee or Bacon County.

Now, I think with automated systems, 10 people could run just about anything depending on the effenciency of the system, the controls involved, etc. I see your point there.

I can certainly agree with you about the Feds having a bigger role in education, but never in curriculum - and I would also do away with the SAT and CRCT and all those other tests. They are a waste of time and money, as they are designed now.

By @@

March 6, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Uh Oh! I can’t talk to Apocalypse a/k/a Doom? I’ve tried to see what it is you see in Obama Apocalypse. I just can’t wrap my brain around his vague message of CHANGE.

His speeches are rearranged sound-bites that bring me back to where he started—anticipation. It’s a vicious (well not vicious) but circular movement.

Bye John from Tampa. Can’t say as I blame you. Not much to see here.

Off to the track and then Stratfor where there’s a whole lot going on.

By Greg

March 6, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

History is histoty, fact is fact. For the past 40 years the Repug Party has been/grows even more highly Hitleresque in mentality and actions. Little unsettled hate-mongers always seeking out and joining w those of similar mindset. You have only to open your eyes/mind and observe your…neighbor. Hatred reigns supreme w the Repunks. Been there, witnessed that for years from deeply within. It only worsens. More intellectual “prosperity”???

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Yawn…….

Mr. Headcase,

“Six years of unprecedented prosperity Bosch. Yes. We have had six years. Unemployment has been low. The stock market did hit historic highs, even adjusted for inflation. The fact that we have 12 million illegals will tell you something about the availability of employment. More people own their own homes than ever. Yes, many are having some problems, but even at that only 2% are in any danger of foreclosure. “

Care to back this up with sources? Nope? Okay, your argument is moot. It is still opinion and those stats that you claim to be true can be discounted or analyzed anyway you want them to be. It’s not fact, and until you back up your OPINION with inrefutable unbiased analysis, then don’t bother me.

“As far as ANWR and the Gulf, what do you propose that we do in the meantime? Should we starve to death in the dark? You say we should develop alternative fuels, but that is in the future. We must plan, true. But we also must live in the here and now. Your arguments against drilling are actually contradictory. “

Am I arguing against it? Do you know what a benchmark is? Do you comprehend what I meant when I wrote “I’d be all for drilling in ANWR, if certain tangible benchmarks were met concerning research, development, and IMPLEMENTATION of alternative fuels - and I don’t just mean ethanol”?

Huh? Do you get this? Do you know what a freaking benchmark is?

It’s very ignorant for anyone to claim one person is responsible for a good or bad economy - you say it’s Reagan to congratulate for the wonders of the economy, others could argue Clinton - blah, blah, blah, it’s the same argument with no definite factual conclusion - to claim the contrary is simply intellectually dishonest and simply not true. Again, you can type it over and over again, and it simply isn’t true or real. Sorry.

I’ve had to explain this to RB before, so I guess I need to tell you too - statistics and data are there for anyone’s analysis - and most of the time is heavily manipulated to fit someone’s bias of their perception.

It’s basic research 101.

Actually, the meaning of “is” is the present tense of the word “be.” I actually hate that expression because GOP slobbers such as yourself like to vomit that phrase out - it’s kind of boring and

By Paul

March 6, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Bosch

10000, 100000, just typing along and letting the numbers fly.

Just picking numbers at random. The numbers were just to illustrate the point, be they teachers, districts or records.

Let me back up. There is tremendous duplication by districts. Each one does their own hiring, training, payroll, administrative support, etc. It doesn’t matter if a district has 100 or 800 teachers - there’s a huge administrative overhead.

So economies of scale come in this way. If you have one computer system and one person to handle payroll per district and you have 1000 districts in a state, you have 1000 computer systems and 1000 people. Combine them, don’t need 1000 computer systems and 1000 people. You need one (more capable) system. Maybe a couple of people. So as you go up in scale, you realize economies because it takes fewer to get the same job done.

And while my post was to illustrate why each kid in America should have the same shot at a good education, regardless of what their parents make or where they live, I was showing that while costs would grow at a Federal (or state) level they’d be greatly reduced at the local level. And the sum of the local reductions could be less than the new cost at the state or Federal level.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Okay, I get your point - not trying to be a smartass - I’m really math stupid and I thought like my definition of economies of scale, I was simply missing something.

You mean like one payroll person per state instead of district? Well, that’s a little exagerration there, but I see your point, and yes, I agree.

Except with the hiring, firing - I think that should be local. I’ve seen too many times, state employees who needed to be fired, but because of the bureaucracy in place, and the managers who are actually there on the spot who know the situation and couldn’t “fire” someone, a worthless employee continues in a job. A state employee (except a teacher) pretty much has to be convicted of murder before they are fired. It’s ridiculous.

What about lunchroom ladies (or men). Okay, we’ve figured that out (the previous) - what to do about ridiculously nasty lunchroom food? Gross!

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase cont.,

It’s kind of boring and IRRELEVANT.

But here’s a phrase I like to vomit out when I’m trying to p** off a GOP slobberer — “Mission Accomplished”

By AJC Management

March 6, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Well, I never knew:

{{{{Reading the transcription of the interview is one thing, but hearing Hillary Clinton talk about her faith is very different. Listen here. You can read the transcription here.

At the time, the article got significant play but some of the quotes from the whole interview never got used in the article. Here are some key quotes that I thought you might be interested to look at:

Hillary Clinton: I believe in the father, son, and Holy Spirit, and I have felt the presence of the Holy Spirit on many occasions in my years on this earth.

Reporter: Can I ask you theologically, do you believe that the resurrection of Jesus actually happened, that it actually historically did happen?

Senator Clinton: Yes, I do.

Reporter: And, do you believe on the salvation issue — and this is controversial too — that belief in Christ is needed for going to heaven?

Senator Clinton: That one I’m a little more open to. I think that it is, as we understand our relationship to God as Christians, it is how we see our way forward, and it is the way. But, ever since I was a little girl, I’ve asked every Sunday school teacher I’ve ever had, I asked every theologian I’ve ever talked with, whether that meant that there was no salvation, there was no heaven for people who did not accept Christ. And, you’re well aware that there are a lot of answers to that. There are people who are totally rooted in the fact that, no, that’s why there are missionaries, that’s why you have to try to convert. And, then there are a lot of other people who are deeply faithful and deeply Christ-centered who say, that’s how we understand it and who are we to read God’s mind about such a weighty decision as that.}}}}

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase,

Forgot to ask:

Where the hell did this come from?

“The fact is that class warfare never works. The poor just suffer all the more because NO ONE EVER GOT A JOB FROM A POOR MAN. The only alternative is ‘government work’, and we all know how well socialism works at creating a workers’ paradise. Ask the Russians and the Chinese!”

Did your system fail and you just blurted that out? When did we start talking about, let’s see what was it?

Class warfare, ‘government work,’ getting jobs from poor men, um, oh, Jesus, I can’t keep up with your nonsense.

Reboot, it might do you some good, and could keep you from GOP Tourette outbursts.

By Paul

March 6, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Bosch

I sorta look at it like the FBI example I gave. Lots of offices all over the country. But the assignments are handled centrally. Local input. I see your point about curriculum, that’d be a showstopper for many. BUT, that gets back to my point - no reason why a wealthier district should have a killer science program, a great art program, five languages and a great votech, while another kid has nothing other than biology, no art or music, one language option and no vocational ed.

Like I said, kids shouldn’t be penalized for the circumstances of their parents.

But the food stays local.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Hey Apocalypse,

Forgot to tell you thanks for including me on the list. I appreciate it.

I was just reading the opinion talk blog, do you think Florida and Michigan should get to re-do their primaries?

I do. I think Obama would win both. She really p** me off Tuesday night during her “Oh, I’m so great speech” when she included Florida and Michigan in the states that she’s won. I think he’d win both of them, and then she’d have to go back to New York for good.

By AJC Management

March 6, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Well, now we know:

{{{{Mr. Brodie, apparently seeking to play down the potential impact on Canada, told the reporters the threat was not serious, and that someone from Ms. Clinton’s campaign had even contacted Canadian diplomats to tell them not to worry because the NAFTA threats were mostly political posturing.}}}}

{{{{The Canadian Press cited an unnamed source last night as saying that several people overheard the remark.}}}}

{{{{The news agency quoted that source as saying that Mr. Brodie said that someone from Ms. Clinton’s campaign called and was “telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt.”- Daily Kooks}}}}

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Paul,

To be honest, I think part of that has to do with attitude. I can hear the words “socialism” coming to mind, and can faintly hear the argument from some of “why does my child have to suffer or have services depleted and those resources to go no good, welfare queen, handout, good for nothing, illegal immigrants……[insert negative stereotype here]…..on and on.”

It’s all about our society priorities and attitude - I know that sounds very general, but I think that’s more true than not.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse,

BTW - I mean Hillary Clinton when I said “she” earlier @4:15 - I guess your smart enough to make that inference - not so sure about intelligence level of some here :-)

By Spike

March 6, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

You are surely correct, Greg. More and more the Repugs appeal to and enrage the gun-rack-on-the-pickup mentalty. Watch now as they attempt to unify the racists, woman-haters, white evangelicals, Latinos and war-lovers into one giant, seething Obama/Clinton-fearing cesspool of a voting bloc. They’ve done it before. Indeed, it’s the most “successful” thing they ever do. Sadly, they will appeal to simmering pockets of racist hate in this nation that have never really been tested, pockets of such vehement intolerance and power that it’s impossible to know what demons l lurk, what sort of outrage will erupt. There exists no historical precedent for what we are about to witness and get into. Yes, the Repugs have always been very Germanic in their thought processes. Historically in need of a hate-spewing leadership and solution. All the books are out there. Read em!

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Paul,

But again with the curriculum, I wouldn’t be opposed to the feds coming up with some basic national standards in curriculum - kind of like national QEPs. The other Bosch teaches 4th grade math, but every day has to teach one of the classes social studies -but only gets 30 minutes to do it. Between now and April - when the CRCT is - life in the American Colonies through the American Civil War must be covered. It’s ridiculous to me that not only PE and art are being cut out, but now, history is being put on the low priority list. It’s shameful.

By Paul

March 6, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

Bosch

So much for equal opportunity?

We look at a society like India - in spite of being a democracy, there’s still a caste system that’s hard to overcome.

That friend who was a minister? Was lecturing at Cambridge (England). Afterwards was talking to a young man who said he really wanted to be a doctor. When my friend asked him why he wasn’t in premed he answered “no one in my family has ever been a doctor.” That’s another limitation on breaking down old barriers - it’s attitude.

So there are uneducated parents. Poor parents. Lazy parents. Parents who don’t push education. Parents who aren’t parents. But that’s all a done deal - the kids are here. Question is, do we as a country give them all the same opportunity to break free of their limitations?

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I wrote that comment earlier about the national curriculum standards before I saw your latest post.

But you wrote:

“Question is, do we as a country give them all the same opportunity to break free of their limitations?”

Oh hell yes, isn’t that what Americans do? Isn’t that one of our founding principles that all men (or in this case little men and women) are created equal? That they deserve life liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

See, I believe that and so do you, but hmmmmm, just think of the outcry. Let’s just get all socialism here and say that there are national standards, and facilities are equal no matter where a kid lives - despite nothing - all the same - that would go over like a lead balloon in the Alpharettas of the world.

By @@

March 6, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Paul:

Let me get this straight. Your 3:43 to Bosch?

Are you saying that administration of education should be centralized leaving the schools to teaching only?

What would you do about counselors, nurses and secretaries? Media personnel (Library)? They’d have to remain in house. My daughters high school had five secretaries, and most of them didn’t seem to be occupied the majority of the time.

If that’s what you’re saying, it seems like a heck of an idea to me.

The money saved goes back into the schools where it belongs.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

@@,

I think the main purpose of a school secretary is to sit there and be as crabby as possible. I think they are required to sit on tacks just to insure their crabbiness.

True story: at my daughter’s school, there is a parapro whose job from 10:30 until 1:30 (during lunch) who does nothing but walks around from table to table and tells children to be quiet. Now, in my opinion, as a teacher, I would want the students to actually talk during lunch to get it out of their system instead of in the classroom. Wouldn’t you agree?

That really aggrevates me, and when the lunchroom gets too loud, they turn the lights off and the none of the kids can talk. I stopped eating lunch with my daughter long ago because of that. That same teacher got on to me once for talking and I quickly informed her that she was not my mother and could not tell me to shut up. I told her that I had come to eat lunch with my daughter and I was not going to sit there in the dark and not talk to her. Then I complained to the principal and superintendent. Nothing has changed. It’s a stupid waste of money and time.

By Likkkoduh is Bush's Burka Boy

March 6, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

His bum boy too.

I’m not gay. I’m whatever it is Larry Craig is.

Go ahead. Call me a f-ag. I kinda like it.

Pull my hair.

By Devastator

March 6, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Allow me to answer your question to Apocalypse @4:15,

I think Obama would win too. Only problem is, will people come out a second time and vote differently? maybe.

She has brainwashed people like getalife into thinking that she is good with National Security. She has zero experience in that area.

She’d probably cry if we met another attack.

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Got to run! I’ll check back later.

Have a pleasant evening all!

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

Clintons got money from Rezko co-defendants by margieburns on Sat 02 Feb 2008 01:26 PM EST |

Since the name of Chicago defendant Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko has come up in national debate, it seems fair to look at donations from other defendants in Chicago’s “Operation Board Games.”

Of the other five defendants, three have donated to the Clintons or to Clinton supporters, three have donated mostly to Republicans, and at least two have donated to Obama’s political opponents. None have donated to Obama.

Rezko’s trial is scheduled to begin March 3. The legal cases comprise several indictments of Chicago political and business figures on multiple counts of fraud, extortion and kickbacks. Rezko’s co-defendants include Chicago businessman Stuart Levine; construction executive and Chicago Medical School trustee Jacob Kiferbaum, who is cooperating with the investigation, and Bear Stearns executive P. Nicholas Hurtgen; and attorneys Joseph Cari and Steven Loren, doing business for the Teachers’ Retirement System. Mr. Loren has not been a significant donor.

All the major donors were obviously cruising for receptive politicians, whom they found. Setting aside any presumption of guilt, there was clearly more than enough money as well as blame to go around. Neither party has a monopoly on the big donations in Chicago in spite of its dominant Democratic machine. A quick search on Mitt Romney, for example, in Illinois turns up a result list that cuts off at 1000 donors—and that’s IF you limit the search to individual contributions over $2300.

Only public financing of elections, backed up by laws that have teeth in them, will ameliorate this condition.

Meanwhile—

That Rezko donated over the years like a political junkie, and may have been one, has already been written about by Buzzflash. Rezko himself gave mostly to Dems, with the largest amts going to central committees, other donations to national figures incl GWBush ($4000), and frequent contributions over the years to IL politicians incl Rod Blagojevich, Luis Gutierrez, and former senators Carol Moseley-Braun and Peter Fitzgerald as well as the donations to Barack Obama that Hillary Clinton pointed out.

Predictably, the Chicago Sun-Times reports that the national co-chair of Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign, Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigo, also got Rezko donations.

Here is the rundown on his fellow defendants, from FEC data via www. opensecr

By @@

March 6, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

I’ve witnessed the lights off in lunchrooms too. I found it to be strange, but I think it’s because they have a limited amount of time for lunch. They want them chewing, not talking.

A great deal of socialization took place in the classroom. Stations, I think they called them. Kids running around doing five different things with little oversite.

Seems kinda backwards, but I think it should be acceptable in kindergarten through 2nd grade.

By RW-(the original)

March 6, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Earlier you wrote something about Clinton being charged/impeached and then found not guilty/not removed from office.

That’s really not the way that works. Impeached is more like being found guilty and then it moves to the Senate for the penalty phase. I was once found guilty of driving with an expired tag, but there was no penalty given because I had proof that I had mailed in my renewal on time. <—That judge had to have been trying to keep some kind of streak going.

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

Clinton/Rezko post continued…

Here is the rundown on his fellow defendants, from FEC data via www. opensecrets. org, in descending order by amounts donated:

Stuart Levine: 210 donations for federal candidates, totaling $255,350, mostly to Republicans. Biggest contributions to Illinois Republican Party and to National PAC. One $5000 donation to the Illinois Democratic Party. Most individual donations to GOP candidates from GWBush on down, except for a few $2000 donations to Joe Lieberman, Mark Green of NY, who now appears frequently on MSNBC as a Clinton supporter, and Illinois State Comptroller Daniel W. Hynes, whose father, Thomas C. Hynes, was formerly a Cook County Assessor. Dan Hynes was among Barack Obama’s primary opponents in the Illinois U.S. Senate race in 2003. Levine donated $1000 to Bill Clinton in 1995. Levine has not donated to Obama.

Joseph Cari, Jr: pulled out his checkbook 137 times from 1993 on, giving $193,836 under Joseph and $8958 under Joe to candidates for federal office, mostly to Dems. Further donations from family members incl $1000 to Bill Clinton in 1995. Biggest Cari donations went to the DNC and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Individual donations, usually $1000 apiece, to Dem candidates across the country incl the natl figures—Gore, Kerry, Kennedys—and others incl Robert Torricelli in NJ, Chuck Robb in VA, and even the late Paul Wellstone in MN ($250). Cari donated $2000 to Bill Clinton in 1995, another $1000 to Clinton campaign manager David Wilhelm, $500 and $1000 to Hillary Clinton in 2000 and 2003, and donated twice to HILLPAC in 2002. The Hillary Clinton campaign has apparently returned the $1000 but not the other donations. Cari also donated several times to Southern Wine & Spirits, a PAC donating to both major parties which has also donated to both Clintons. Cari has also donated to several Illinois Democratic candidates including Gov. Blagojevich and former Congressman Dan Rostenkowski. No contribution to Obama individually is listed, but the Obama campaign has returned $1439 from apportioned committee contributions.

P. Nicholas Hurtgen, former Bear Stearns manager in Chicago: 48 federal contributions from Hurtgen and his wife in recent years, totaling $47,787, almost entirely to GOP candidates—$5000+ to the Republican National Committee, $4000 to GWBush, most of the rest to other Republicans. However, the Hurtgens have also donated $2000 to Rahm Emanuel

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

As you know, we’ve won 27 of 41 contests and have maintained our commanding lead among pledged delegates.

But today I want to share another staggering number: supporters like you donated more than $55 million to this campaign in the month of February.

That’s a humbling achievement, and I am very grateful for your support.

No campaign has ever raised this much in a single month in the history of presidential primaries. But more important than the total is how we did it — more than 90% of donations were $100 or less, and more than 385,000 new donors in February pushed us past our goal of more than 1,000,000 people owning a piece of this campaign.

From the beginning, this campaign has always been funded by a movement of grassroots supporters giving whatever they can afford. And unlike Senator Clinton and Senator McCain, we have never taken money from lobbyists or PACs.

Senator Clinton has decided to use her resources to wage a negative, throw-everything-including-the-kitchen-sink campaign. John McCain has clinched the Republican nomination and is attacking us daily. But I will continue to vigorously defend my record and make the case for change that will improve the lives of all Americans.

Despite your generosity in February, I need your help to continue this battle on two separate fronts.

Please make a donation of $25 today:

https://donate.barackobama.com/math

Thank you for your support,

Barack

By N-GA

March 6, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse,

I guess you don’t want to hear from me….

Paul,

I think it would be good if the federal government established (and enforced) minimum educational standards for all students, then left funding and implementation to the states. If taxpayers in a state wanted to pay their teachers more, they could raise their own taxes or cut spending elsewhere (highways, police, etc.). As long as there was no discrimination, then the federal government would leave the states alone. But this would take the Congress (and probably the courts) years to implement.

R.E. economies of scale: AMEN! But then you have the sociopolitical problems that are inherent between school districts. People in Dunwoody want their tax payments spent in Dunwoody, not Riverdale. Remember when (was it?) Marietta tried to buy laptops for all students?

I’ve heard that Georgia has more counties than any other state. Talk about waste at so many levels. But if you come up to North Georgia, you will quickly find that just about everything is run by a few families who are unwilling to give up power (control). It will take another hundred years before there is any significant forward progress in this state….maybe!

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

Jonathan Alter Hillary’s New Math Problem Tuesday’s big wins? The delegate calculus just got worse.

Mar 5, 2008 | Updated: 6:48 p.m. ET Mar 5, 2008

Hillary Clinton won big victories Tuesday night in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island. But she’s now even further behind in the race for the Democratic nomination. How could that be? Math. It’s relentless. To beat Barack Obama among pledged delegates, Clinton now needs even bigger margins in the 12 remaining primaries than she needed when I ran the numbers on Monday—an average of 23 points, which is more than double what she received in Ohio.

Superdelegates won’t help Clinton if she cannot erase Obama’s lead among pledged delegates, which now stands at roughly 134. Caucus results from Texas aren’t complete, but Clinton will probably net about 10 delegates out of March 4. That’s 10 down, 134 to go. Good luck.

I’ve asked several prominent uncommitted superdelegates if there’s any chance they would reverse the will of Democratic voters. They all say no. It would shatter young people and destroy the party. Clinton’s only hope lies in the popular vote—a yardstick on which she now trails Obama by about 600,000 votes. Should she end the primary season in June with a lead in popular votes, she could get a hearing from uncommitted superdelegates for all the other arguments that she would make a stronger nominee (wins the big states, etc.). If she loses both the pledged delegate count and the popular vote, no argument will cause the superdelegates to disenfranchise millions of Democratic voters. It will be over.

Projecting popular votes precisely is impossible because there’s no way to calculate turnout. But Clinton would likely need do-overs in Michigan and Florida (whose January primaries didn’t count because they broke Democratic Party rules). But even this probably wouldn’t give her the necessary popular-vote margins.

Read full article at Newsweek.

By Paul

March 6, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

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This is a tangent from a discussion with Bosch from yesterday. Let me repost my main post which pretty much lays the groundwork. It’ll come in two parts.

Our education system evolved from a time of local responsibility and little Federal involvement. So now we have school systems that vary greatly by state and within states. Each district is responsible for raising monies for basic operation through property taxes (with Fed funding for special programs). Don’t mean to sound pedantic - just trying to lay the groundwork for a common frame of reference. Local districts hire and fire teachers, set pay scales, build new facilities, etc. All derived from prop tax. Wealthy districts can afford to pay higher salaries (some assume this means better teachers). They also become a magnet as families become more wealthier and decide to move to a district that has “better schools.” So, by nothing other than an accident of birth, a child will find himself in a school with or without, with a minimum or maximum, basic program, advanced program, enhanced programs, up to date textbooks, lab equipment, supplies, facilities possibly with labs, learning centers, stages, portable buildings, etc. All driven by the property wealth of the district. Each district has a large staff for handling personnel, hiring, maintenance, pay, etc. Economies of scale don’t exist - one could have 500 offices each handling payroll within a state. It’d be like each FBI field office or each EPA district each handling their own payroll. Or each military base handling assignments, training, payroll, etc. So by consolidating hiring, pay, etc at the Fed level, the country would make sure there was a level field - all would have equal access to decent facilities. Teachers would have equalized pay scales - possibly with bonuses for taking on more challenging assignments. Rather than thousands of offices manned by countless employees handling redundant functions there would be fewer bureaucrats. This would cause disruptions in local jobs - but would have a tremendous relief impact on local tax rates. A huge amount of local overhead would go away.

By Analyst Interrupted

March 6, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

Hey, you said two parts. That’s not fair. We want paul, part duh!

retard

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

This is a democracy. If you expound common sense, the Apocalypse will heed your cry.

My previous post was a reaction to an idiotic assumption someone else made.

By Paul

March 6, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

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(continued)

“Wouldn’t eliminate local inputs. But you would know your kid wouldn’t get stuck with a 15-year old science textbook, no language labs, etc while another kid would have all that, and more. There are numerous stories of kids and programs in poor, depressed areas succeeding wildly. But the very fact these make noted stories or movies shows how unusual they are. Kids having the tools to succeed should not be an unusual story. “

N-GA 5:33

Which is why, as Bosch said yesterday, it would prob be done at a state level (another snowball in hell).

I understand the viewpoint at a state level. Just seems to me, though, it ought to be national. Give kids everywhere the same shot at good teachers. Decent facilities. A sound curriculum. Up to date textbooks.

I also like the national standards. But, look what happened with No Child Left Behind. A simple statement that kids should demonstrate mastery of coursework to get passed from grade to grade. Seems reasonable. But look at the bureaucratic monstrosity that has resulted. Absolutely, incredibly sickening. BTW - I really wasn’t aware of the ire generated by NCLB - until I spoke with a family member who’s a teacher. Then I heard the rest of the story.

By Analyst Interrupted

March 6, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

No it wasnt. Your previous post was you having an epileptic emission. That is no way for you to sway opinion, at most, you will only succeed in being a moron. (and an idiot)

By AJC Management

March 6, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Apocalypse March 6, 2008 5:35 PM Read full article at Newsweek.}}}}

That wasn’t the full article that you just posted, dimwit?????

Oh, I forgot, I’m not supposed to talk to you, my bad.

~~~~~

Look at the goony lib reporter add their little commentary to this news story:

{{{{A —>small<—- bomb caused —->minor<—- damage to an empty military recruiting station in Times Square early Thursday, shaking guests in hotel rooms high above “the crossroads of the world.”}}}}

Yeah, just some “little” pinko terrorist, no big deal.

{{{{“It shook the building. I thought it could have been thunder, but I looked down and there was a massive plume of smoke so I knew it was an explosion,” said Terry Leighton, 48, of London, who was staying on the 21st floor of the Marriott.}}}}

{{{{“Whoever the coward was that committed this disgraceful act on our city will be found and prosecuted to the full extent of the law,” Mayor Michael Bloomberg said.}}}}

Coward is right.

By @@

March 6, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

O.K. Paul, I get the “over all” argument, but what’s to be done with local school boards and teacher’s unions?

They can do a lot of damage locally, and I know of what I speak. One of our school board members was just ousted due to public outcry and he’s going to court with his union rep.

Duly elected (big mistake) B.O.E. member has a teachers union rep. Go figure.

I see court costs robbing from the system in our future.

By Paul

March 6, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Analyst Interrupted,

Sorry, I’m not tracking on what you mean, at all.

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I cut and pasted from the earlier post. Sorry it lost the paragraph formatting.

By Apocalypse

March 6, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

AJC Management,

That why I said read the full article at Newsweek.com jacka&&!

Didn’t want to post to long of a post because A.D.D. sufferers like yourself complain about them.

By Paul

March 6, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

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Well, there’d be a lot of wrinkles, a lot of items to address. But as an overall concept I think it has merit.

Pity I’ll never see it, though.

By AJC Management

March 6, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Apocalypse March 6, 2008 6:00 PM —->Didn’t want to post to long of a post<—- because A.D.D. sufferers like yourself complain about them.}}}}

But yet you did it anyway, huh?

Try this next time, genius:

Jonathan Alter, “News” Weak, Hillary’s New Math Problem- Tuesday’s big wins? The delegate calculus just got worse.

You cult members are awfully excitable, aren’t you?

By Analyst Interrupted

March 6, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Oh, forget it.

By @@

March 6, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

Paul:

(((Wouldn’t eliminate local input.)))

I’m gonna make this a little more challenging for you.

The fiasco down here in Clayton County (are you from Georgia btw?) is political. There are four board members affiliated with a teachers union. The founder of said union is affiliated with political opposition to our board of commissioners.

The Chairman of our board of commissioners got a hold of an arrest warrant (domestic assault) of one of our B.O.E. members, and found out that member didn’t even reside in our county. The residence of other members has been called into question.

Anyhoo, the Chairman of our B.O.C. brought the non-residence issue to the attention of the B.O.E. members and the public (who voted for the incompetent members) through local media.

The Chairman of the B.O.C. has now said he will initiate a policy whereby the B.O.E. will answer to the B.O.C. Governor Perdue has even gotten involved. He attempting to legislate that any school district whose accredidation is at risk can immediately recall board members. Kinda late once the accredidation is on the block.

They don’t call Clayton County a circus without just cause. I dropped in on an AJC site where a discussion on the topic was taking place. One poster opposed to the ousting claiming another member (no union affiliation) has a daughter who calls the B.O.C Chairman “Poppy”. I’m not sure what they were implying but the circus must go on.

Oh Lawdy me. Clowns are frightening.

By @@

March 6, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

Oops! Sorry Paul, just saw your 6:08.

Overall it does have merit. Our wrinkles down here are another story altogether.

Getting the wrinkles out of baggy clown pants is a full-time job, but the citizens down here are pressing away…

with steam!

By Paul

March 6, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

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I’m not from your area, but it sounds thoroughly amusing. And pathetic. Clowns was a good word.

Why do these power-hungry egomaniacs have to run for a position on a school board?

We could get into Andrew Jackson’s views on the danger of the vote for the masses. Sounds like he’d come back to your area and say “uh-huh, told ya.”

I’ve seen you in one or two religion discussions. Thought you’d appreciate this:

“Mildred, the church gossip and self-appointed Morals Monitor, kept sticking her nose into other people’s business. Several members did not approve of her extra curricular activities, but feared her enough to maintain their silence.

She made a mistake, however, when she accused George, a new member, of being an alcoholic after she saw his old pickup parked in front of the town’s only bar one afternoon. She emphatically told George (and several others) that everyone seeing it there would know what he was doing. George, a man of few words, stared at her for a moment, then just turned and walked away. He didn’t explain, defend, or deny… He said nothing.

Later that evening, George quietly parked his pickup in front of Mildred’s house…walked home…and left it there all night!”

By Bosch

March 6, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Paul, The real pity is NONE of us will see it in our life times.

What really aggrevates me is that public schools can be a great thing, they have their problems just like any government institution, but I agree with you and that is where some of my “socialist” self comes out.

Power hungry ego-maniacs run for school boards for the same reason anybody runs for office - they need it. I think there are very few good people who actually run for office, and they are usually defeated. I’ve seen it in my home town many times. It’s like the Jimmy Carter syndrome. Jimmy Carter is a great man, but wasn’t tough enough for the job, so he wasn’t such a good President. I’ll admit that (and so would Jimmy, I’ll assume).

@@,

Teacher unions like all unions have their place, but I think should be on a limited scale. I know you think that I support unions, but I don’t support them whole-heartedly. That’s DEFINITELY one issue I cannot discuss with Father Bosch. I remember the case you cited the other night about the acquaintance at the Ford plant, that is, of course, deplorable. The case you are talking about I know pretty well, and I think Clayton County should be horribly embarrassed.

By @@

March 6, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

(((Later that evening, George quietly parked his pickup in front of Mildred’s house…walked home…and left it there all night!”)))

Funny Paul. I’ll assume George was a man of aged wisdom and a hard shell.

Perfect combination. Sounds like something my husband would do after telling me, of course.

By Glenn

March 6, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

Paul, I trust you’re aware that we didn’t have universal compulsory schooling in the U.S. until 1934, and that the continuity was broken when two states closed their public systems for a year rather than deseggregate.

The problems of NCLB are very deep, and utterly irremediable. There are better roles for the feds to play than the two they’re playing now, NCLB and air traffic control for categoricals, but centralizing curriculum is not one of them. The feds already consider curricular control the Grand Slam of power politics in education, and they’ve been back-dooring it for years. Only two states currently commission textbooks for statewide use, and because the monetary stakes, like the two states, are so big, both states have histories of astonishing political corruption resulting from that centralization of curriculum-buying power. Also, the tests are part of the curricular materials. More money, more corruption.

By AJC Management

March 6, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

{{{{A November editorial in The New York Times spelled it out: “… the consequences could be disastrous: further melting at the poles, sea levels rising high enough to submerge island nations, the elimination of one-quarter or more of the world’s species, widespread famine in places like Africa, more violent hurricanes.” What’s more, there is no time to waste: “…the world must stabilize the emission of greenhouse gases by 2015, begin to reduce them shortly thereafter and largely free itself of carbon-emitting technologies by midcentury.”}}}}

{{{{In support of this nonsense, the Times offered the report of “the International Panel on Climate Change, a group of 2500 scientists who collectively constitute the world’s most authoritative voice on global warming.” In the ensuing months, a major effort has been made to establish that this panel’s view is the all-but-unanimous opinion of the world’s climatologists on the question. It is, however, no such thing. More than 19,000 scientists have signed a petition saying global warming is probably natural and not a crisis. (The complete list can be seen at www.oism.org/pproject.)}}}}

Bwa.

By @@

March 6, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

I respectfully disagree with you about unions. They HAD their place. Their time has come and gone. Unions are no less corrupt than the politicians who seek their support.

We have a legal system that can address the individual’s call for justice but it better be justified. Don’t waste the courts time, and don’t waste the time intended for our children.

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