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Home > Opinion > Mike Luckovich > Archives > 2008 > February > 22 > Entry

Bedfellows

By Mike Luckovich | Friday, February 22, 2008, 07:54 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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By lil Ole IN THE NEWS, With rWduHng@@Zell Living In My Head

February 22, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

Geez, is that all democrats can think about is men in bed with other men?

Sicko.

~~~~~

When the Atlanta Urinal Constitution takes a totally discredited gossip column and reports it as though it is news, it says a whole lot more about the AJC then it does John McCain:

{{{{McCain denies improper relationship with lobbyist. Report suggests company linked to woman benefited-Urinal}}}}

I thought this guy was “too” old?

Duh, freaking duh.

~~~~~

{{{{Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr sent his decision on whether to extend his Mahdi Army’s cease-fire in sealed envelopes to 200 loyal clerics across Iraq to be opened at the beginning of today’s sermons. The cease-fire has been an important factor in reducing violence.Urinal}}}}

Yeah, it has reduced violence on Mookie’s army.

Is there anyone one else in the whole freaking world, other than the anti American pantie waists at the AJC, that thinks the United States army in Iraq isn’t prepared to annihilate the Mahdi “army” at the first wormy little sign of them?

I hope Mookie falls for the pinko propaganda.

~~~~~

Only in Atlanta:

{{{{The official term is “automatic public facility.” Atlanta is placing five of them around the city: one at Piedmont Park The hand-washing station has a “warming device” for water. Toilet paper is automatically dispensed. The soft jazz sounds of “What The World Needs Now Is Love” and other tunes play over a speaker.-Urinal}}}} “What a bum needs now, is home, sweet home.”

Pack up all your things Honey we’re moving out of this cardboard box!

By Polly's Mom

February 22, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Well, I had the most wonderful time as chaperone to Andy’s tea party last night. He, I mean she, Andy likes to be a girl, wanted to wear a nighty with depends, so I said that’s fine, as long as it’s covered up.

She and all the other girls stayed up to watch Auntie Mame and then played mahjong until 11, then they fell asleep on the bean bags in the basement.

I had to unplug the PC though, because Andy kept getting up to check some Comment board. She was all jittery until I gave her some valium, but I think that’s why she wet her bed three times.

Oh, well, girls will be girls!

By Shawny

February 22, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

ok, now commie Lucko. The most centrist of any candidate that ran (all 30 or so of them) is McCain. But because you and other media types are so lefty leaning, you pick on him (3 toons in a row).

Howz about picking on the absolute most liberal senator, who is the dem front runner, for a change?

By MadAsZell

February 22, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

I can’t believe you rented the version of Auntie Mame with Lucille Ball — everyone knows Rosalind Russell was so much better! Hmmph.

By Shawny

February 22, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

Here, Lucko…it goes something like this.

Nice one, Lisa.

By lil Ole IN THE NEWS, With rWduHng@@Zell Living In My Head

February 22, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

Look a the World of Pinkos, whining and fighting and there aren’t even any Republicans around:

{{{{It has been said that one should never underestimate the Democratic Party’s ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Both candidates for the Democratic nod, while actually trying to win both the nomination and the election, are headed toward what looks like an unavoidable convention battle, at which each will come off looking worse than they did before.}}}}

{{{{While both camps complain about rules they don’t happen to find convenient at the moment, it is not as if the rules are new ones. If Democrats’ leading candidates can’t seem to figure out the rules by which the party operates, Democrats are in for a long summer of what amounts to nothing more than disingenuous complaining.}}}}

And KKKlinton got “serenaded:”

{{{{Ku Klux Rodham was booed last night when she accused her Democratic rival Barack Obama of plagiarism, saying that he represented not ‘change you can believe in’ but ‘change you can Xerox’.}}}}

{{{{Mr Obama dismissed the charge out of hand at a debate last night, then turned the jeers to applause when he countered, “What we shouldn’t be doing is tearing each other down, we should be lifting the country up.”}}}}

The vast conspiracy of “hope,” eh?

By Shawny

February 22, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

The real empty box is the one still in office though! LOL

By @@

February 22, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Well at least you put a couple of cigars in that bed ml.

The NYTs and their “bed bugs”. I thought they were against spying on the enemy.

Yeah buddy!

By Copyleft

February 22, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Now, that’s funny! Good cartoon, Luckovich.

By lil Ole IN THE NEWS, With rWduHng@@Zell Living In My Head

February 22, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

Bwararasghgh, spittle, spittle, bwarrrgh, spittle, spittle, mmmmmm, donuts!! Drool, drool — OH! A NEW POST!! clickety-clickety, CTRL-C, CTRL-V, he ha ha ha, urrrp!

By Goldie

February 22, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

HA — great ‘toon, Lucko! A lobbyist is a lobbyist is a lobbyist…

By lil Ole IN THE NEWS, With rWduHng@@Zell Living In My Head

February 22, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

Yeah, that’s a real nice bedtime story mommy told you last night when she got home, eh, Polly?

Tell her to come by later and pick up her panties or did she leave them here as an excuse to, uh, come back?

~~~~~

You can tell KKKlinton doesn’t have a brain, only a real moron would be pushing the Ole “First One Hundred Days” campaign promise:

{{{{Clinton promised to sign a pathway to legalization for immigrants within 100 days of her inauguration, which goes farther than what she’s said before. That may make news in Texas.}}}}

Let’s see here, 76% of Americans are against amnesty, so yes, let’s shove it down their throats.

Duh.

By Goldie

February 22, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Did anyone else notice that Hillary plagiarized John Edwards last night in her closing statement of the debate?

{John Edwards: “What’s not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no matter what happens in this election. But what’s at stake is whether America is going to be fine.” [Democratic Debate, 12/13/07] }

It certainly looks like a “Xerox copy” that Hillary used last night!

By Mike

February 22, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

Of course Mikey is going to jump all over a story that has even been criticised by liberals as miserable journalism.

Tell us more about the Republican “slime machine”, Mikey. Let’s hear some whning about “swift-boating”. Your hypocrisy discredits you as the Times’s tabloidsmear campaign discredits them.

By Crenshaw8

February 22, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

A shameful flip-flop and blatant lie from Hillary and Barack in last night’s debate. No border fence the fence that Bush pushed????

By lil Ole IN THE NEWS, With rWduHng@@Zell Living In My Head

February 22, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

{{{{Howard Wolfson, the communications director and a senior member of the advertising team, earned nearly $267,000 in January. His total, including the campaign’s debt to him, tops $730,000.}}}}

{{{{The advertising firm owned by Mandy Grunwald, the longtime media strategist for both Mrs. Clinton and Bill Clinton, the former president, has collected $2.3 million in fees and expenses, and is still owed another $240,000.}}}}

Ahh, nothing like some good old cronyism, especially with somebody else’s money.

Need a snapshot on what the KKKlinton presidency would be like, just look at the kampaign in action, goons and jackboots resurrected from from the criminal under class of the Billy Klux administration, all of them in it for the money.

Gee, I wonder what they would do with the federal treasury in their control?

Duh.

By Linhasxoc

February 22, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

{{Howz about picking on the absolute most liberal senator, who is the dem front runner, for a change?}} Barack Obama is not nearly as liberal as, say, Russ Feingold. Stop whining.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Will McCain Be on the Indiana Ballot?

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

A funnier toon would be the corporate firm representative dressed as a pimp with the lobbyist dressed as a hooker - and the firm rep giving the lobbyist directions for her date with the politician.

Lobbyists are w*******.

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

A funnier toon would be the corporate firm representative dressed as a pimp with the lobbyist dressed as a hooker - and the firm rep giving the lobbyist directions for her date with the politician.

Lobbyists are w*******.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

FEC Warns McCain on Campaign Spending

By Truthman

February 22, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

Gennifer Flowers offers advise to Vicki Iseman!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/21/vicki-iseman-gets-advice-n87883.html

Gosh, it’s just horrible when the shoe is on the neo-con foot isn’t it, DUH!?!

Isemangate! ISEMANGATE!!! Say it with me, now!!!

By RB from Gwinnett

February 22, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

What story was Hillary referring to when she said she would stop the feds from raiding homes and taking illegal adults into custody leaving their children home alone or coming home from school to an empty home?

By RB from Gwinnett

February 22, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

What story was Hillary referring to when she said she would stop the feds from raiding homes and taking illegal adults into custody leaving their children home alone or coming home from school to an empty home?

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

10 Ways Republicans Prove They LOVE AMERICA MORE

By Paul

February 22, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

lil Ole ITN 8:04

Are you implying showing Hillary in bed with a bunch of men would strain credulity?

getalife - last evening

“And this blog is sharing recipes.
Take it to the food blog. Geez.”

Even Hillary’s taken up the “unity” and “come together” mantra. Time to get with the program!

Food - the universal unifier.

Goldie 8:36

Congrats on being first with the reference! I was wondering if anyone would bring it up. Just too funny from someone who’s been accusing her opponent of lifting lines without attribution.

Ummm, general question. What’s wrong with having people represent certain interest groups (health care for seniors or poor kids, crackdowns on industries who want to weasel around environmental controls, advocacy groups who want to reform FDA drug inspections, teachers groups who want to modify bureaucratic parts of No Child Left Behind, etc) - otherwise known as “lobbyists” - in Washington? Isn’t it another of those “free speech” issues? And if they’re so terrible, why hasn’t the Democratic Congress yet taken action to ban, or at least severely curtail, their activities?

By lil Ole IN THE NEWS, With rWduHng@@Zell Living In My Head

February 22, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Truthman February 22, 2008 9:13 AM Gennifer Flowers offers advise to Vicki Iseman! Gosh, it’s just horrible when the shoe is on the neo-con foot isn’t it, DUH!?!}}}}

Oh yeah, you libs really got us this time:

{{{{In the classic sense of the phrase, there is literally no “there” there. The Times cites two shadowy, unnamed “former associates” who cite other shadowy, unnamed “advisers” whom these two say feared that there might have been a sexual relationship between McCain and Iseman.}}}}

{{{{That it took four authors (and two additional contributing researchers) nine years to acquire this little substantiation is striking, both in its futility and its reflection of the depth of the New York Times’ impassioned desire to deliver the tale. It is reminiscent of the deranged lengths and depths Dan Rather plumbed in pursuit of his Great White Whale – the George W. Bush Texas Air National Guard dodge that wasn’t.}}}}

And we all know what happened to Dan Blather.

Bwa.

By Ray

February 22, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Put your finger in the air, Hillary, see what they want to hear, then pander them for votes. Tell all of the illegals that your only hope is for them to become citizens then depend on them to help you carry Texas. Will it ever stop???

By Jesus

February 22, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Paul,

There’s nothing wrong with individuals representing special interest groups as long as they don’t prostitute themselves! The other problem is that the lobbyists that help the “good” interests groups (helping the sick, elderly, etc. etc.) they don’t have the money and corporate jets to catch the eye of the politicians.

Today’s my 40th birthday! I’m about to start celebrating. Is it too early for beer?

By Truthman

February 22, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Your kind always mentions Dan Rather, but they never mention the facts of the Chimperor being AWOL.

I much prefer a president who had the balls (Clinton), and has the balls (Obama) to stand up and protest immoral wars than some fetal-alcohol symdrome, coke-snorting, dry drunk, idiot frat boy who dodged military service because of his “diddy!!!

Beso mi culo, DUH!!!!

By Goldie

February 22, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

So exactly how did the Clintons manage to mis-manage all those MILLIONS of campaign $$$? Who are Hillary’s financial managers who allowed her campaign to go broke before Iowa even occurred?

And how many Americans would want another president who spends money so recklessly?

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s latest campaign finance report, published Wednesday night, appeared even to her most stalwart supporters and donors to be a road map of her political and management failings. Several of them, echoing political analysts, expressed concerns that Mrs. Clinton’s spending priorities amounted to costly errors in judgment that have hamstrung her competitiveness against Senator Barack Obama of Illinois.

By Polly's Mom

February 22, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Now, now Andy — you know I’ll let you wear my panties any time you want. And here I thought you didn’t me want to tell anyone.

Everyone, Andy is a trannie. I guess she’s coming out! Will wonders never cease! The poor thing is only blessed with an inch, so there isn’t much to tuck.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett

There have been numerous cases of agents doing roundups of illegals (see Swift Meat Packing) and processing them for deportation. However, many had been here a long time, had kids here - and the left hand didn’t coordinate with the right hand - so the young kids come home to an empty house, no parents, no nothing. It’s a forseeable action, some would say ripe for bad publicity - and the agencies played right into it.

Bosch

Congrats! 40? Fifty percent to 60! Halfway to 80! Triple it and you’ll be… Never mind! Beer? Now? Hey, it’s five o’clock somewhere! But you really oughta think about prune juice. With extra fiber. And naps. Lotsa naps. So you won’t doze off at five. Contact AARP. They’ll have discounts on those drugs you’ll need to celebrate your birthday with the missus! If she’s still attracted to old guys. Hint: she if she buys the McCain slime story. If she does, you’ve got it made!

I think you see what I was saying about lobbyists - they’re all lumped together as ‘evil’ including those representing time some with interests some find worthwhile. And you may be a tad surprised at the headquarters, salaries, perks and jets some of these “save the planet” groups have. Lots of little contributions add up to a river of cash. Then that larger issue - here’s another “outrage” that’s been around for a while and it’s not even on the Democratic Congress’s radar. Wonder why?

By Goldie

February 22, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

Bosch — it’s your birthday! I would still recommend you wait until noon to have your first beer, giving your favorite bar plenty of time to have the cold ones ready for you!

By WhatYouWon'tDoForLoveImeanPresidency

February 22, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Yes, watching the Austin debate last night, I saw Hillary has not changed from the morphing candidate for the NY Senate, appealing to any electorate she can.

McCain, of course, has done the same thing. He reminds me of Bob Dole on his last run, wanting Presidency so bad that he did almost complete turn-arounds on his old stances.

It’s hard to respect any of them who do this, but I guess it’s part of the game.

By Truthman

February 22, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

The REAL BUSH RESUME:

RESUME

GEORGE W. BUSH 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington, DC 20520

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:

Law Enforcement: I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver’s license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been “lost” and is not available.

Military: I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

College: I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.

I began my career in the oil business in Midland Texas , in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn’t find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.

With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:

I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.

I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.

With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida , and my father’s appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President of the United States, after losing by over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:

I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the big

By Michael McCarthy

February 22, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

But it was ok for Monica to accept cigars in the oval office. Hypocrisy reins on the left. “This does not rise to the level of impeachment” No credibility on the left. Booo!

By GOPrImpervious

February 22, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

To Truth, Reality, and Equality.

Religion and Greed poison everything.

By getalife

February 22, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

“I did not pork the lobbyist”

McJoke.

By tiff

February 22, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

In The News, that was a perfect start to my day. Thanks for that. It’s good to know someone else see these republicans for what they are. Mike the toons just keep getting better. I love the surprised look on McCains face. Hopefully, all the republicans will have that same look on their face come November.

By RB from Gwinnett

February 22, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

By Bosch 9:36 AM

{{{The other problem is that the lobbyists that help the “good” interests groups…}}}

What groups are you calling “good”? Isn’t that a little subjective? Wouldn’t teachers consider the teachers union a good group? AARP? Would you consider corporations part of the “bad” group? What if they’re lobbying for green initiatives (GE, Honeywell, etc)?

Or does it just matter if Bosch likes them and what they stand for?

It’s never too early for beer, especially a good one. What’s your beer choice, Bosch? Maybe there is something we can agree on.

Truthman, could you please go ahead and decide on the Brian Nichols case, Barry Bonds steroid use, and tell us where Jimmy Hoffa is burried since you seem to be able to convict people when others can’t find any evidence.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Truthman

Bush isn’t running. It’s old news. Let the past go. It’ll be good for your blood pressure.

By Mack

February 22, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Bush blows.

Obama knows.

Obama 08: he wont let the McRoves destroy america any more.

By RB from Gwinnett

February 22, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

So I guess OJ Simpson is actually innocent, as well.

By Polly's Mom

February 22, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Polly’s Mom February 22, 2008 9:49 AM The poor thing is only blessed with an inch.}}}}

I want to apologize to the blog for my son’s conduct, like I was telling you earlier, his whole life is centered on the tools of other men.

And it just keeps getting progressively worse, this sickness of his, now he is even name jacking his own mother.

I wish there was something I could do about it, to save you good people on this political blog from his insane pen-is envy, but he won’t even let me change his diaper anymore, especially when getalife is posting, oh my, the whole house stinks during those episodes.

This blog is like all he has now.

Well, I’m off to Luckoduh’s house to seek refuge from this obsessed madness and to have some, uh, fun.

Don’t pay my little prickless name jacker no mind while I’m gone.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett

I know it’s old news, way over a couple decades, but didn’t you ever hear that news report - one of those old-line news magazines - where the reporter wrote Jimmy Hoffa was alive? FBI had him in witness protection and the reporter was able to track him down?

By AndyGone?

February 22, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Yeah, I’ll believe that when I don’t see it!

By Mack

February 22, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

I’m seeing more photos of the girl. She’s looking better and better. McCain is my hero. He’s got my vote, serious here.

McCain 08: his wife is a babe, sure, but get a load a linda.

By Truthman

February 22, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Paul, I’ll do it the day the neo-cons stop hating on Bill Clinton.

RW, you are the Queen of de Nile!!

Believe what you want, but the truth is the truth.

Nichols: Banishment to a deserted island.

Barry Bonds: Guilty! Sentence - 10 years living with DUH in his mom’s basement. Clemens, too!!

Hoffa buried: Nope, he’s with Elvis somewhere in Fiji!!

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Prune juice? Never. Naps? Already one of my favorite afternoon activities. The other Bosch is older than me, so I’m set!

Actually, no, I’m not surprised at the cash these “save the planet” groups have, which is why I don’t contribute to them anymore.

The only place I give contributions to is my church. I know what they do with their money for charities, and it’s activities I’m all for.

Democrats are also in the bed too. Like I said, lobbyists are w*******.

Goldie,

Good advice - thanks! - maybe I’ll go take a nap and THEN go to my favorite bar. That’s a plan! I think I’ll have a glass of Chardonnay!

By Paul

February 22, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Truthman

“I’ll do it the day the neo-cons stop hating on Bill Clinton.”

Why be like them?

“Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” Yoda. Or Obama. I forget.

By Truthman

February 22, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Yoda’s voice: “Your advise good it is!”

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

RB,

Sometimes when people put a word like “good” in quotation marks, it is inferred that it is meant to be subjective. One can argue “good” and “bad” interest groups all day - all groups are good (and bad) to someone.

And, no, I’m not so arrogant to think that only the groups that I like are the good ones.

Becks - the Bosch beer of choice.

Paul,

Forgot something - like you said yesterday to N-GA (although I’m going to paraphrase):

I think we are playing the same tune from the same sheet music (regarding lobbyists).

I liked that statement, sorry if I butchered it.

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Truthman and Paul,

My favorite Yoda quote:

“Around the survivors a perimeter create.”

By getalife

February 22, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Another gop indicted for corruption.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Bosch

No prob. It’s the concept that counts.

More serious subject. I was struck during the debate by the backpedaling on a border fence and the shift to “let technology do it.” Of course they didn’t say that technology - sensors, drones, etc - requires a huge investment and ongoing personnel and support costs. While a fence takes - not much. They coulda scored more points - Obama, especially - by saying “even Texas’s two senators, Cornyn and Hutichson, took action to stop construction of portions of the fence. I’m the candidate who will work with conservative Republicans to express the will of the blah blah.”

I wasn’t sure if that was pandering to the audience or a real desire. But I daresay there are more than a few moderate Dems who think unfettered border crossings have serious implications - and who may take a harder look at McCain.

By Shawny

February 22, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

The Obama illusion fools no one, when they research his past. …measured by votes in the Senate, or by the policies he is advocating in the campaign, is not a centrist.. …and more, here. Dangerous, indeed.

By Shawny

February 22, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Nice piece regarding the dems denial in Iraq

By Shawny

February 22, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Bosch, here is my favorite SW quote, this time from Obi-Wan…’Many of the truths we cling to depend on our point of view’.

By Truthman

February 22, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Yes, a great line in an otherwise tepid movie.

Another: “When 800 years old you are, as good as I look you will, Hmmm?”

By Truthman

February 22, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Shawny,

Yep, it’s about time for someone as “dangerous” as Obama to be our president.

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Well, I think building an actual fence is pointless. A “virtual” fence makes much more sense because even with an actual fence, in order to actually keep illegals out, they are going to need the same technology to monitor it, and actually keep people out.

To me, that’s the whole point - they haven’t been putting $$ into monitoring the borders - they’ve been putting band-aids on gaping wounds.

But either way, it’s still treating the symptom and not the disease (someone wrote that earlier?). An actual fence or a virtual fence is still not addressing the issue of WHY these people are coming in.

By Georgia 74

February 22, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Republican Rick Rentzi, Congressman from Arizona indicted. I guess soon the Feds will have to build a Republican wing at Leavanworth.

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Shawny and Truthman,

There are so many great SW quotes - I also like:

OBI WAN: “These are not the droids you’re looking for.”

Stormtrooper: “These are not the droids we’re looking for.”

Jedi mind tricks. Classic.

Sometimes I think politicians do that. But Jedi mind tricks only work on the weak minded!

TM,

Yoda - what a bad a$$ 800 year old little green guy!

By Paul

February 22, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Bosch

Only so much influence over Mexico’s policies - which seems to be to export their low-wage and unemployment in return for money sent home. Check Mexico’s population and estimates of Mexican population (excluding Central and South America) and it’s about ten percent here. Births of illegals are, what, more than births of US citizens in southern Cal? So while we cannot control (italics) the root causes of the emigration we do get saddled with the effects. Check prison population stats in some areas. It’s sobering.

Make no mistake - look at states like Oklahoma - overnight restrictions on illegals does lead to higher consumer prices, slowdowns in construction. Which isn’t all bad - higher wages for these kinds of jobs is a good thing. If produce, other foodstuffs, new construction, restaurant prices increase, well, it’ll be a short-time jump and we’ll settle in and get used to it.

But it’s rather like environmental discussions - lots of polarizing options - do nothing or very little, make’em all instant citizens, or send’em all back - are not realistic. Compromise is going to have to come into play - and the last attempt at that left us with exactly what we have now.

Doesn’t have to be a wall along the entire border. If you’ve ever been to some of those regions you know it’s some pretty daunting terrain. Other enforcement measures there are appropriate. But when all is said and done, walls are cheap. And effective. Just ask N Koreans trying to get into China.

By getalife

February 22, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

“Clinton: Obama ‘change you can Xerox’ “

Yep, he is a fraud.

Her closing last night was the best moment of this campaign. Standing ovation.

She should be President.

By N-GA

February 22, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I don’t believe there is really a need for a fence.

First, seriously punish employers who hire illegals. If the pain (punishment) is severe enough, they will comply.

Second, punish illegals by incarcerating them, then put them to work. Perhaps the time has come to create benevolent chain gangs. When they finish their sentences, tattoo them, DNA test them, and send them home with the promise that the next time will be much worse.

Sounds Draconian….just a little, huh?

By RB from Gwinnett

February 22, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Bosch, Why do you demonize lobbiests? They can never be any more effective than the willingness of our elected officials to take their money or give them preference. Nobody is making any senator talk to them listen to them, take their money, anything. Our elected officials are the problem.

Ever wondered why nobody is talking about building a fence on the Canadian border? Isn’t that one open too? Is the issue really about security or is it really about mexicans coming here illegaly, doing low wage jobs, not paying taxes, and using services the rest of us pay for?

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Couldn’t agree with you more, except the actual building of a fence.

Politicians have been overlooking this for years. Companies get rich off cheap labor - we pay less. Still the people who get screwed are the consumers, and settling for it, in my opinion, is find of frustrating. We will have to pay more while our income doesn’t keep up. Companies who’ve made huge profits off illegal labor aren’t going to “settle” for anything less than a continuation of their huge profits.

Compromise and sacrifice from all is what needs to happen, but somehow the ones who have to sacrifice are the same ones getting screwed in the whole process.

We need a revolution - bring out the guillotines! Just kidding. Too much coffee.

Fences may be cheap, but if my stupid dog can figure out how to get out of a very well built fence, a determined person who wants to come into this country can figure it out too. It’s a Jedi mind trick - it’s something concrete to make people feel good - they think the government is doing something if they build a fence!

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

RB,

The elected officials AND the lobbying system is the problem - You can’t demonize one without the other. I agree with you about the elected officials - sorry if I sounded one-sided on the issue, but I thought that was kind of a given (about the officials) - and I think both sides are at fault - not just Republicans.

N-GA,

I agree too, why haven’t we been doing that to begin with?

Not enough people are addressing the disease which, like cancer, affects the entire body.

Like I said earlier, the employers won’t give up their huge profits though and the consumer gets stuck with the increase.

From what I’ve read about Mexican social structure, there are the rich, and there are the poor - very little middle class. I see that happening here.

Greed is the cancer.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

N-GA

In rare form this morning?

Historically, unfettered mass migrations have had severe consequences. Overall, I’m pretty sypmathetic to Hispanic migrants. Can’t really fault someone for wanting a better life for themselves or their families. I think a form of guest worker program has most promise.

RB

If it’s a security issue, consistency demands both.

Bosch

Yes, yes and yes. Now for some fun. Automatic citizenship for anyone born here? Reread the 14th amendment. Section 1. Jurisdiction clause. See the implications?

ITN

Typical partisan spin site. Guy’s about out of cash, campaign’s on the skids, donors dry up, gets a loan, has to have a life insurance policy to guarantee repayment… and you refer to it as a scam?

Lalaland libs taking over for rightwing conspiracists - doesn’t get better than that.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Paul

Typical Partisan retort!

I’m not so worried about it myself, but what with the FEC questioning his campaigns financial tactics it certainly requires a look. That is, if you are fair minded.

Perhaps the FEC would be interested in your opinion.

How to Contact the Federal Election Commission: Call Mail 1-800-424-9530 Federal Election Commission 1-202-694-1100 (Washington, DC) 999 E Street, NW 1-202-219-3336 (Hearing Impaired) Washington, DC 20463

By Hey Goldie

February 22, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

I love coming on here looking at the garbage you write about other candidates, and your precious Obama is never wrong. Obama’s plans for this country cost over 879 trillion dollars, you ready to pay for all his peace love and harmony? The idiots that vote for him don’t know his planned price tag.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

ITN

The guy was down and out. Arranged a loan. I really think it strains credulity to expect one of the few people remaining with him to say “Hey Senator, the way this loan is structured, it could have implications under PL xyx section 14a in the event you wish, at some future time, to conduct a publicly-financed only general election for President.”

FEC lawyers saw a potential conflict, asked for clarification. No big deal. Blowing it out of proportion and seeing a dark scheme is what strikes me as typically partisan and led to my “conspiracy” comment.

Possible diversion from Obama’s seeming reconsideration of his pledge to go with a public financing campaign and McCain’s question of “what’s to discuss? I said it, he said it, let’s do it.”

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I have sympathy too, but to a point. I have family members who don’t see these people as human, which of course, p** me off, but damn, your sounding like a bleeding heart liberal here :-) -

Yes, if I had a choice between living in a refrigerator box with my wife/husband, three kids, a few in-laws, six cats and three dogs, I’d do my damndest to get here too. Which, of course, I’m exaggerating here a bit, but not much.

For a bleeding heart liberal like myself, it’s kind of a quagmire. You have sympathy for these people, but realistically, it’s draining our system. You can only help so much. A compromise? Sacrifice? Yes - but it has to come from everyone - which, will that happen? HA!

Weak policies or rather ignored policies must change as well, or like you said, be consistent, consistent, consistent!

Yeah, that damn 14th amendment - those pesky laws get in the way sometimes, huh?

Damn, I sound wishy washy. I’m 40 now, can I use the term “wishy washy?” Is that term allowed by those of us who are members of the establishment? I didn’t get my Establishment new member rule book. Damn postal system. I’m saying “damn” too much too - is that still allowed?

By Hey Goldie

February 22, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

I love coming on here looking at the garbage you write about other candidates, and your precious Obama is never wrong. Obama’s plans for this country cost over 879 trillion dollars, you ready to pay for all his peace love and harmony? The idiots that vote for him don’t know his planned price tag.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

ITN

Let me put it this way.

If I was a pro-Obama site, expecting him to face McCain in the general, and if I was aware of Obama’s pledge to go with public financing, knowing McCain had done the same; and thinking Obama could raise far, far more money for a general election fight; but knowing going back on his pledge would cause problems;

then I’d wage an effort to cast doubt about McCain’s eligibility for public financing and force him to go with private financing. Which would remove my ethical problem and give me a money edge.

By GOD

February 22, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

JESUS (9:32). Good work, my Son. You are a good Boy and filled with enlightenment. But given my added years of experience in the field of humankind, I suggest that Bush be publicly hanged rather than simple impeachment. The punishment should fit the crime, my Boy. Please consider that - and keep up your good work(s). I am proud of you.

By Bosch

February 22, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Actually, my comment about doing my damndest to get here is an exagerration (?sp). I would be outraged that my country was allowing such huge gap in the social system.

The Central American countries have to step up to the plate.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Paul

Federal Election Commission Chairman David Mason isn’t nearly as impressed, and is sharp enough to know a candidate trying to pull a con when he sees one.

The GOP has strained the collective credulity for 7 years now.

My OPINION is that it is McCains diversion to keep scrutiny away from his tactics. Your OPINION is different.

Of course you know what they say about opinions and airports.

By Dusty

February 22, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

I sure wish I had a brain..I am tired of fingering my own but…….

By Paul

February 22, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

ITN 12:25

There you go again. Big difference between “not understanding” and “knowing there’s more to know.” He was head of the Commerce Committee, for Pete’s sake.

As I said earlier, such accusations lead to a great setup for an Obama question:

“Senator Obama, Senator McCain has said, in spite of his work on a variety if issues, he still could understand more about the economy. Are there any issues - foreign affairs - defense - security - nationbuilding - where you could understand more? Or do you know all you need to know?”

By Mohammed

February 22, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Please vote for my son, I mean my friend Obama. We want all Americans dead, I mean happy. And to destroy the American economy, I mean make it thrive. Vote for Obama, Change is good for me, I Mean you. LALALALALALALALAALALALALALALA

By WhoCares

February 22, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

As long as I don’t have to hear W on the news and worry about what Cheney is up, I don’t really care who wins.

By George

February 22, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Do not bet that McCain’s current problem is NOT but another filthy Repunk trick aimed at forcing him into the rabid,hate-filled pack of usual Republican “normalcy.” Those freaks have long ago perfected character assassination. More recently Gary Hart & Bill Clinton were victims. Note that Wide Stance still heroically serves his country with honor and his personal behavioral problems have been forgotten & shoved off the table. Today’s GOP need be totally eradicated from the scene. Such a collection of human filth.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

ITN 12:33

I like opinions. Not so fond of airports. As a passenger, anyways.

Mason, I do not believe, ever said “he could smell a con.” That was the //opinion// of the web site, seeming to attribute a statement to Mason. I wouldn’t want to argue the writer was umbiased author after that -

Mason asked for “assurance” - which is reasonable. If there’s a legal issue to settle, let’em do it. But enough with the false quotes.

I hope it’s settled in McCain’s favor and both candidates go with public financing. I’m quite suspicious of the corrupting power of vast sums in the political process. As I said to RW - no one’s really ever explained to me the difference between a campaign contribution and a bribe.

Link: Mason

By Goldie

February 22, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

{{Her closing last night was the best moment of this campaign. Standing ovation.}}

getalife— you forgot to add that she “plagiarized” words from John Edwards during her best moment!

By Paul

February 22, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Goldie

A minor thing. Did you see at the end of the debate - Obama stood, took a step over by Hillary, and pulled her chair out as she was standing. Just a small, natural gesture, didn’t seem as if he was really thinking about it.

As I said, he strikes me as a gentleman.

By Luckoduh is Bush's Boy

February 22, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Yep. Bush’s boy. His bum boy.

That’s a really phony cartoon Luckovich.

It would have been a lot more lifelike if you had drawn them together in a mens room instead of a bed.

That’s where me and my buds hang.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Paul

Have you ever made a contribution?

Could YOU tell if you were offering a contribution or a bribe?

By Glenn

February 22, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

But John Edwards, her old college buddy and lifelong friend, not only endorses her campaign but is her campaign co-chair and frequent advisor who recommended that she use those lines!

Oh. What? Have I got the wrong candidate? Hmn.

OK, I’ve got the wrong candidate, but Hillary did not commit political plagiarism because despite Obama’s protestation, and boos from the audience, and invitations from the Clinton News Network moderator to change such an obviously unpopular topic, Hillary stuck to her guns and pressed her point, repeatedly, that plagiarism is a legitimate character issue that bears importantly upon this Presidential campaign.

So she could not have plagiarized John Edwards, see? I was right after all!

She could not have exploited anyone’s grievous injury to buy sympathy votes either. That is simply beneath the dignity of a former First Lady of Arkansas and of the United States, and certainly beneath a U.S. Senator with 35 years of experience in helping others to do things.

If you were losing control of your Presidential bid, and losing the bid itself, and losing donors and “friends”, and losing the only thing that holds your very public marriage together—-if you were losing all these things, and were an extraordinarily controlling person to begin with, you’d have a lump in your throat too. I reckon.

By Mookie

February 22, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Fellow goons and ragheads, may peace be upon you.

After careful consideration, I have decided not to lift the “cease fire” that I have previously “imposed” upon you great lions of Islam.

Bushie still scares me.

That is why I am hiding in Iran instead of my own country, because I am a weak horsie, while Bushie is serious and means what he says about killing all of us terrorists.

Yes, I do want to die for my religion, as I have instructed you to do, but not for several more decades, thank you very much.

So, depending upon the U.S. elections, we will gloriously return to Iraq and begin torturing, enslaving and murdering the innocent civilians in either 100 years or 6 months.

Because McBushie scares me too.

Bwa.

Now go blow yourselves up for allah, you dumbas-ses.

By Midori

February 22, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Paul,

how did your Shrimp and Grits turn out?

By RB from Gwinnett

February 22, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

By Paul 9:50 AM

{{{There have been numerous cases of agents doing roundups of illegals (see Swift Meat Packing) and processing them for deportation.}}}

Paul, I can see how this would happen, but I haven’t seen much made of it to date. Certainly not to the level of Hilary making it a debate topic last night. Wouldn’t the same problem occur if any American were arrested for whatever reason while their kids were at school? This is not an immigration problem nor is it a symptom of our Fed govt. as she made it out to be. That was dishonest.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

ITN

I stopped contributing to national parties long ago. Have checked off the box on the 1040s every year for the Fund.

But for other contributions - I give where my interests align with the recipient. Such funding permits the person or organization to work towards common goals.

That’s a tad different than being a member of a group - say, United Auto Workers who didn’t want the fuel economy standards addressed, or a gun owner who wants no more restrictions - banding together and sending in lots and lots of money, letters, and vote threats.

Just ask John Dingell (yup, a Democrat) out of Michigan how it works.

So if I were at the top of the pyramid of a large group delivering votes and cash, yeah, I think I could tell the difference.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Paul.

Glad to know there is one instance in which you know the difference between a bribe and a contribution.

Like you, the “Party” does not get my money. The candidate does.

I’m sure it’s a contribution.

Is there any difference in Corporate entities doing what Unions do?

By Mookie

February 22, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Behold fellow blog goon Polly, behold his wisdom and knowledge which is second only to the prophet mohamed:

{{{{By Luckoduh is Bush’s Boy February 22, 2008 1:12 PM It would have been a lot more lifelike if you had drawn them together in a mens room instead of a bed. That’s where me and my buds hang.}}}}

It is the true teachings of Islamic lunatics and fellow demokrats to spend all of your time focused on man’s an-us, that is why we like young boys so much.

Plus, our brains are real, real puny and cannot handle anymore information than that.

So let us go forth into the world and call everyone fa-ggots, maybe we will run across a real one and get it on with him.

May peace and a hairy Muslim be upon your back.

By AndyGone?

February 22, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

I knew it was too good to be true, Andy-Mookie-girl.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Midori

I thought great. But rich rich rich. Whew. I was kinda liberal with the cheese. My wife wasn’t nuts about it so it’ll be one of those things to fix when I fix her something she likes that I’m not nuts about.

I used Alton Brown’s recipe for the grits - 1 C milk, 1 C water, bit of salt and 1/2 C coarse cornmeal. Stirred every few minutes for 20 minutes. The saucier worked great.

Was in NY last week - stopped by an old haunt for an Old Fashioned - one of the party ordered a specialty of the place - a Midori Sour! So you were toasted.

The bartender shared the recipe. Shot of Midori (I used a shot and a half) Shot of simple syrup Shot of sweet and sour

Pour in a container with ice, shake a little, pour over crushed ice.

Drink. Adjust recipe. Drink again. Repeat until perfection. Or until you don’t care!

RB from Gwinnet

Amazing how hiccups in the system get portrayed as normal occurrences, isn’t it? A negative enforcement impact means one adjusts the method. But such things win the PR war.

I tend to think many things raised during campaigns - or in battles between the Executive and Legislative - are pretty much trivialities.

By Luckoduh Loves Dick Cheney

February 22, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

With or without the Dick…

Go ahead libs - call me a fa-ggot.

You’re just stating the obvious.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

ITN 1:35

Not much. Just look at how they split their votes between Parties and candidates. Playing both sides of the fence. That cannot be a case of donating to someone who they know will work,independent of one’s contribution, for a common goal. So, if they contribute to two candidates who have opposing views on a topic, can we really say they aren’t hoping for a bit of influence or payback?

By Mookie

February 22, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Did u knoe that I’m in wikipedia???? Those dam eleet LIBS have me listed:

Troll (Internet) An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

By lil Ole IN THE NEWS, With rWduHng@@Zell Living In My Head

February 22, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Yew can call me Andy or An’dee is my stage name when i’m in drag hangin at Star-bucks with my laptop drinkin double shot exxxpresssos to keep up with the comment board. its the only thing i have left. left is such a pinko f-aggy commie word! Doant yew think???!!

By Republican Progress

February 22, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Republican Rep. Rick Renzi was indicted Friday on charges of extortion, wire fraud, money laundering and other matters in an Arizona land swap scam that allegedly helped him collect hundreds of thousands of dollars in payoffs.

Hey everybody, let’s give the Republicans a round of applause. This is a giangantic leap forward to the GOPhers.

At least today’s arrest didn’t involve young kids or playin with peckers.

Ya just gotta admire it when pathological criminals and deviants strive to do better.

By Mookie

February 22, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Name jacking trolls are such geniuses:

{{{{By AndyGone? February 22, 2008 1:38 PM I knew it was too good to be true, Andy-Mookie-girl.}}}}

No sh-it Sherlock.

{{{{with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.}}}}

Blog vote:

Does that not describe Polly to a tee?

By N-GA

February 22, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

It’s amusing to see and hear so much about “plagiarism”. The person who should complain is the person who used the line(s) in the first place. But we won’t hear from him because he supports Obama.

Then, perhaps, we should look to the speech writer. I doubt Obama will blame him/her because that would be passing the buck.

It is much more accurate to question someone’s character when they consort with major political figures (Keating), and obstruct an investigation of that person. And that person continues to consort with the lobbyists he claims to detest.

McCain is seriously bent…and Hillary is petty.

By Mookie

February 22, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Bwa f-aggity LIBS!!! how to spelll shurlok…trips over pss bucket to call mom…jeezus!!! it stinks down heer - better worsh teh bucket ..been uh yep a year..nah i’ll just go to walmart and get anudder one
bwa.

By reebok

February 22, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

Now I understand why McCain’s denials yesterday were so strident. He was trying to make the debate about the NY Times instead of about his actions. His denials yesterday contradicted his sworn testimony from 2002 about activities w/ lobbyists. Newsweek and MSNBC have the story, I’m sure evryone will be leading with it tonite. Mr. Straight Talk is just as phony as the rest of them.

By Midori

February 22, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Raven Simone (remember her from the Cosby Show) is an Atlanta resident, and she names Shrimp and Grits as her favorite food :)

It shows — that girl is getting kinda plump.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Midori

Well, once in a while’s okay. Moderation, moderation, moderation. (Hmmm, food and politics. We’ve just made the connection. Sorry, getalife). As I was eating it I thought “so, doesn’t someone make a specialized cholesterol medicine for this?”

N-GA

So is it issue-specific? Or tied to one’s value system? The level of perfection we expect from those seeking public office?

By Gary

February 22, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

AmVet: Ahh, Charley Keating! My old nextdoor neighbor in right-wing Cincinnati and founder (1957) of “The Citizens For Deeecency,” which became the largest anti-sex, anti-porn group in all the nation, w offices everywhere. Still very much exists. Bringing you/us the very finest in GOP mentality and ethics. Deeply devoted to Jesuss he was/is. A 6’5” Man of God. In Cincy he was bigger than life - and adored by the uncleansed, herded, lock-stepped masses. No one could possibly mistake “what” he was. And he always, always wore a broad smile which seduced sooo many. Memories, memories. Thank you for bringing up his revered name. Repub heroes like Charley need to be remembered - as do the actions of all those who culpably embraced him and his very special little world. Thanx.

By Glenn

February 22, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

N-GA @ 2:11,

The person plagiarized does not support Barack. The person plagiarized by Hillary last night is John Edwards, who supports neither Hillary nor Barack.

Moreover, the notion that someone need be the victim of plagiarism to object to it is rather odd. I would object to Mike Luckovich’s plagiarizing another political cartoonist, though I be not a cartoonist but only a consumer of Mike’s wares.

Had Rudy Giuliani committed the multiple felonies that IN THE NEWS and the DNC-AJC repeatedly said he’d committed, then I would have objected to Giuliani, instead of to ITN and DNC-AJC, even though I would not have been a victim of those falsely alleged crimes.

As it happened, I was instead a victim of ITN’s plagiarism and of ITN’s and the DNC-AJC’s republication of libel. Giuliani was the direct victim of these unlawful acts, but I too have legal standing for tortious complaint.

So it is with Hillary’s deception, except that instead of seeking damages in court, I seek to do her damage at the polls. My best guess is that a federal judge also would find that the best and most appropriate recourse at my disposal.

By the canine catchers of america

February 22, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Warning ladies and gentlemen:

Polly the PoFo, (aka Political Foreskin, Analchord, Mack, etc, etc, etc) is a vicious predator on the order of Hannibal Lecter.

Just be glad you have a monitor between you and this psychotic sociopath, but don’t be fooled. If it could, this horrid beast from hell would reach right through your monitor and suck your eye balls from their sockets like olives from a martini.

It is because of the PoFos of the world our legislators continue to uphold the 2nd Amendment. Should the PoFos be released to rampage the general public, rest assured nothing would make them happier than to rip your tongue out and eat it in front of you while you watched in horror.

So please, do not tease or feed the PoFo. If you come across a PoFo, protect yourself by all means necessary and call your local HazMat authorities immediately.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Victim?

Gee, Glenn, sorry if I ever hurt you.

By N-GA

February 22, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I don’t expect anyone (even politicians) to be “free of sin”. However, I do expect them to be free of hypocrisy. I detest people who say one thing, but do another.

Both Hillary and McCain literally embrace the status quo of backroom political deals. They really don’t believe that the American public wants honesty in government. Well I, stuck in an altruistic rut, think that our politicians should put the American public first…well ahead of special interests, big business, and religious beliefs.

It’s damn ridiculous to listen to the GOP demand up/down votes on appointments when it suits them. It’s also hypocritical for the Democrats to condemn the Iraq War only to vote to fund it because they are afraid of the political consequences down the road of “not supporting the troops”. As though people are stupid enough to think that some American soldier might die in Iraq because Congress failed to pass a funding bill.

Yes, Paul. It does really aggravate me that politics as usual might triumph over a cry for change. Is it not possible for our government to improve itself? Is it simply condemned to worsen until another revolution comes along?

By Apocalypse

February 22, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

The Debate Reviews Are In A few debate reviews below….our guy really did great tonight!

Obama won the debate. This was his best debate performance yet!

MSNBC (Jonathan Alter): Obama won.

Hotline – On Call: …Barack Obama wins the night — and the momentum in his direction continues.

Atlantic (Marc Ambinder): … The Debate Belongs To Obama LINK

TIME (Mark Halperin): Mark Halperin’s Grades: Obama B+, Clinton B

NBC (Chuck Todd) : …Obama set the tone LINK

CNN (Donna Brazile): …And look, Barack Obama tonight was exceptional- he was presidential, he was poised, he was calm. He had the poetry, but he also had the prose. He put the substance ahead of, you know, perhaps some of the rhetorical flourishes that he’s capable of giving. He was good; so, you can’t deny him that.

CNN (Gloria Borger): …Tonight, you saw Barack Obama as a very credible commander in chief.

Politico (Ben Smith): Obama has come prepared to talk about substance, and offers detailed personal anecdotes, not more abstract oration, for most of his opening statement, before pivoting to the question of who can unify the country to get it done. LINK

CNN (David Gergen): … Barack Obama is dramatically better as a debater than he was a few months ago. I thought he was excellent.

By Apocalypse

February 22, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

I Refuse to Buy into the Obama Hype (now a supporter) by Grassroots Mom

Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 05:13:32 PM PST

From: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633

….

I went to the Library of Congress Website. The FACTS of what each did in the Senate last year sure surprised me. I’m sure they will surprise you, too. Whether you love or hate Hillary, you will be surprised. Whether you think Obama is the second coming of JFK or an inexperienced lightweight, you will surprised. Go check out the Library of Congress Website. After spending some time there, it will be clear that there is really only one candidate who is ready to be the next president, even better than Gore. If you don’t want to spend an hour or two doing research, then I’ll tell you what I discovered on the jump.

I looked up Obama and looked up Clinton. I looked at the bills that they both authored and introduced. Anyone who has been around politics, and is honest, realizes that there are a lot of reasons why a Senator votes one way or another on bills or misses votes. However an examination of the bills that each of these Senators cared enough about to author and introduce revealed much to me: what they care about, what their priorities are, how they tackle problems. And the list of co-sponsors showed something about how they lead, inspire and work with others. Finally, looking at which bills actually passed is pretty indicative of how effective each would be at getting things done.

Before I get into the nitty gritty, let’s all be honest here. It is damn hard to get anything through Congress these days. And Obama and Clinton care about the same issues and have obviously worked together on a lot of legislation, whatever Sen. Clinton’s campaign may imply. She is a frequent co-sponsor on his bills, and he on hers. They are both completely competent senators.

I started with Sen. Clinton.

I’m not a Hillary Hater, but I certainly didn’t like her much either. I didn’t like her DLC history; her votes on Iraq, Iran or the bankruptcy bill; her characterization of the years she spent as First Lady as “executive experience.” Hillary Clinton is no Eleanor Roosevelt. Perhaps more like Lady Bird Johnson. Hillary claims to have brought us SCHIP (with a little help from Ted Kennedy). Lady Bird

By Luckoduh Loves Dick Cheney

February 22, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

WITH OR WITHOUT THE DICK…

Seriously. Go ahead, call me a f-aggot.

Last night I went upstairs and stole my grandma’s bloomers after I tried to have sex with her. I was trying to get even with all those namejackers by having sex with my grandma - hey, I was the one who stole Luckovich’s name first!

She told me to run along. She just rolled her eyes when I grabbed her dirty bloomers and put them on. I ran downstairs crying. Mama spanked me, but she did let me keep wearing the bloomers.

So I am happy. So go ahead, call me a f-aggot.

Am I gay? Hell yeah.

Duh!

By Paul

February 22, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

N-GA

During the Vietnam War college students would go door to door with a petition that read “whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government…” They were generally chased off to shouts of “commie hippies!” So much for the Declaration of Independence.

Hypocrisy is one criteria I look at. And I don’t buy the “Dems don’t care about adultery/morality because they have no values” line. On the other hand, I think many politicians, particularly Reps with the strictures of some of the party core, have serious problems with sex addiction, denial, and attempting to live a life of “perfection.” Some Dems, too. I really think, in Bill’s mind, he did not have sex with that woman. Denial , hiding the self and need for approval can be a real problem.

I look at intent. A lot. A person who’s trying and blows it - I can give them a pass. But I expect them to fess up. And not play word games.

I look at the political families who entered with nothing - Gore’s dad, Johnson many others, who amassed huge wealth while serving the public. Isn’t right. Which is why I liked the intent of the framers, say, for Representatives - serve a couple of years and get back to work. A lifetime career is what the bureaucracy’s for. Which is why I’m for term limits and public financing. But it just doesn’t happen.

So this election is shaping up with a candidate for change who hasn’t really been around long enough to get tainted making the deals and compromises, but with a great attitude, against a candidate who’s been burned by the system and has lurched towards a reformist outlook. But who’s had a long history in the “system.” Just moving through that system strikes me like swimming through a sewer in a wet suit. Can take the suit off but the smell lingers. So people hold their noses and point their fingers.

Time again to watch “Dave” with Kevin Kline and Signorey Weaver. He referred to the Presidency as a temp job working for the people. Good attitude for all of ‘em.

By Andy'sLib

February 22, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

I’m glad this week is almost over.

I’m going to go cash my disability check, send the usual percentage to the ACLU, Humanist Society, and Chavez for Life Campaign, then go terrorize Baptists this evening.

Have a good weekend-

By Apocalypse

February 22, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama’s Plan to Protect Social Security

Obama is committed to ensuring Social Security is solvent and viable for the American people, now and in the future. Obama will be honest with the American people about the long-term solvency of Social Security and the ways we can address the shortfall. Obama will protect Social Security benefits for current and future beneficiaries alike. And he does not believe it is necessary or fair to hardworking seniors to raise the retirement age. Obama is strongly opposed to privatizing Social Security.

Obama believes that the first place to look for ways to strengthen Social Security is the payroll tax system. Currently, the Social Security payroll tax applies to only the first $97,500 a worker makes. Obama supports increasing the maximum amount of earnings covered by Social Security and he will work with Congress and the American people to choose a payroll tax reform package that will keep Social Security solvent for at least the next half century.

Strengthen Retirement Savings Reform Corporate Bankruptcy Laws to Protect Workers and Retirees: Current bankruptcy laws protect banks before workers. Obama will protect pensions by putting promises to workers higher on the list of debts that companies cannot shed; ensuring that the bankruptcy courts do not demand more sacrifice from workers than executives; telling companies that they cannot issue executive bonuses while cutting worker pensions; increasing the amount of unpaid wages and benefits workers can claim in court; and limiting the circumstances under which retiree benefits can be reduced. Require Full Disclosure of Company Pension Investments: Obama will ensure that all employees who have company pensions receive detailed annual disclosures about their pension fund’s investments. This will provide retirees important resources to make their pension fund more secure. Eliminate Income Taxes for Seniors Making Less Than $50,000: Obama will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will provide an immediate tax cut averaging $1,400 to 7 million seniors and relieve millions from the burden of filing tax returns. Create Automatic Workplace Pensions: Obama’s retirement security plan will automatically enroll workers in a workplace pension plan. Under his plan, employers who do not currently offer a retirement plan, will be required to enroll their employees in a direct-deposit IRA acc

By getalife

February 22, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Lets use Obama unity and all agree on something.

Lobbyists use legal bribery.

Obama’s ethics rule did not ban them and is a joke.

Obama will change nothing.

Now, show some of his unity and agree.

By Apocalypse

February 22, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You have my sympathy for your candidate’s fail run at the white house.

That’s what your 3:42 is really about.

By Apocalypse

February 22, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama’s Plan Enable All Americans to Serve to Meet the Nation’s Challenges Expand Corporation for National and Community Service:

Obama will expand AmeriCorps from 75,000 slots today to 250,000 and he will focus this expansion on addressing the great challenges facing the nation. He will establish a Classroom Corps to help teachers and students, with a priority placed on underserved schools; a Health Corps to improve public health outreach; a Clean Energy Corps to conduct weatherization and renewable energy projects; a Veterans Corps to assist veterans at hospitals, nursing homes and homeless shelters; and a Homeland Security Corps to help communities plan, prepare for and respond to emergencies. Engage Retiring Americans in Service on a Large Scale: Older Americans have a wide range of skills and knowledge to contribute. Obama will expand and improve programs that connect individuals over the age of 55 to quality volunteer opportunities. Expand the Peace Corps: Obama will double the Peace Corps to 16,000 by 2011. He will work with the leaders of other countries to build an international network of overseas volunteers so that Americans work side-by-side with volunteers from other countries. Show the World the Best Face of America: Obama will set up an America’s Voice Initiative to send Americans who are fluent speakers of local languages to expand our public diplomacy. He also will extend opportunities for older individuals such as teachers, engineers, and doctors to serve overseas. Integrate Service into Learning Expand Service-Learning in Our Nation’s Schools: Obama will set a goal that all middle and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year. He will develop national guidelines for service- learning and will give schools better tools both to develop programs and to document student experience. Green Job Corps: Obama will create an energy-focused youth jobs program to provide disadvantaged youth with service opportunities weatherizing buildings and getting practical experience in fast-growing career fields. Expand YouthBuild Program: Obama will expand the YouthBuild program, which gives disadvantaged young people the chance to complete their high school education, learn valuable skills and build affordable housing in their communities. He will grow the program so that 50,000 low-income young people a year a chance to learn construction job skills and complete high school. Require 100 Hou

By VtheSeries

February 22, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That’s because Obama knows something you don’t. It will never happen in Washington, unless a meteor lands on the capitol building during a senate hearing. The kind of change you’re talking about takes a lot more than one man.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse

I have difficulty when any response to a troubled program (SS, Medicare and Medicaid eat about half of fed spending) is to raise taxes. Even if it is at that income level. Without looking at any other changes, which he has rejected.

Increasing retirement age by six months? Even though longevity has increased? Calculating raises to reflect cost of living for seniors rather than wage growth.

Obama’s first book - offered changing or eliminating problematic gov’t programs. Just a week or two ago on a Sunday News show Russert asked for an example. He was stumped (aside from offering electronic billing for Medicare - which has been law for several years).

So I’d like to see some reductions or eliminations. Not just keeping what we have and layering more on top of it.

I’m starting to get jaded again.

By @@

February 22, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

Helloooooo, I’m getting conflicting reports on whether or not Sadr extended the truce.

WaPo said he did. VOA said he did. Stratfor kinda didn’t say whether he did or didn’t.

Tell me….tell me! I gotta know.

I’m googling the Grand Ayatollah Ali Al Sistani—he’ll know.

By AJC Management

February 22, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

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YOUR MESSAGE RUNS COUNTER TO WHAT WE EXPEND SO MUCH EFFORT ON HERE AT THE AJC, WHICH IS CASTING AMERICA IN THE WORSE POSSIBLE LIGHT, MAKING IT THE EVIL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND THE ABSOLUTE MOST HORRIBLE PLACE THAT HAS EVER EXISTED, ALL THIS BECAUSE WE ARE UPSET THAT THERE IS A REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

WE SPEND ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY AND TIME PRODUCING THE FAKE STORIES AND PROPAGANDA TO KEEP OUR GOONY BIGOT DEMOKRAT READERSHIP HAPPY, AND YOU ARE MESSING THAT ALL UP WITH YOUR PRO AMERICAN COMMENTS.

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By Company Man

January 8, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Palette Cleanse.

By Company Man

January 8, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Palette Cleanse.

By Company Man

January 8, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Palette Cleanse.

NOW TRY THIS AT HOME, SEE IF YOU CAN POST A COMMENT 3 TIMES IN ONE MINUTE.

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THE BLOG WON’T ALLOW YOU, WILL IT?

WELL, YOU AIN’T WORKING FROM AN AJC COMPUTER LIKE POLLY IS, BWA.

SO STFU CONSERVATIVES, THIS IS NOT AN OPEN DISCUSSION FORUM, WE WILL HOUND YOU AND CALL YOU A F-AG BECAUSE WE HATE YOU AND WE HATE FA-GS.

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By Apocalypse

February 22, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Keep the faith my brother.

I’m not up on Social Security much, but don’t be diturbed by some of Barack’s answers. He has a bad habit of thinking too much when he talks.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

@@

I’m still in favor of a SEAL Team…

By AJC Management

February 22, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

What’cha gonna do, Andy-girl?

By AJC Management

February 22, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

What’cha gonna do, Andy-girl?

By Andy Luckoduh Poser

February 22, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

LOL, oh, Andy, you are too easy a target.

By AJC Management

February 22, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Uh, new name^^.

~~~~~

{{{{The Pentagon on Friday cast doubt on an account of military equipment shortages mentioned by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama during a debate with rival Hillary Clinton.}}}}

{{{{Obama said it was easier for the troops to capture weapons from Taliban militants than it was “to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief,” President George W. Bush.}}}}

{{{{“I find that account pretty hard to imagine,” Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told reporters.}}}}

{{{{Obama said the captain was the head of a rifle platoon, which should have had 39 members — but 15 were sent to Iraq so the unit deployed to Afghanistan had 24 soldiers.}}}}

{{{{Several Army officers said a platoon is normally commanded by a 2nd lieutenant — two ranks below a captain — but the size of a platoon would indeed be around 40 soldiers.}}}}

Hey, it’s only a lie about America the evil.

So what, right?

By Paul

February 22, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse

Actually, that’s one of the things I like about him. Thoughtful. Seems open to new ideas. Doesn’t have a Pavlovian response of “Question 13 = answer 4a”.

It’s Friday. I’m off to an early show at the cinema.

Pleasant weekend, all -

By canine catchers of america

February 22, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

funny how IN THE NEWS can do that too? hmmmmm.

By @@

February 22, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

(((@@)))

(((I’m still in favor of a SEAL Team…)))

Well Paul, outside our personal existence, we rarely get what we want now do we?

Did you know that Sistani is grooming his son to assume his position? I wonder what Sadr thinks of that…

The young Sistani already has the ear of many Iraqis.

Based on what I’m reading the truce has been extended. LOOK! Paul…

Sadr gives it the O.K.

Blow ^^^ that up and live out your dream. Target practice!

By Paul

February 22, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse

Actually, that’s one of the things I like about him. Thoughtful. Seems open to new ideas. Doesn’t have a Pavlovian response of “Question 13 = answer 4a”.

It’s Friday. I’m off to an early show at the cinema.

Pleasant weekend, all -

By @@

February 22, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Oops! Flubbed it.

By Paul

February 22, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

@@

Make that two SEAL Teams…

Later, all!

By Luckoduh

February 22, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

I need someone to show me the things in life that I can’t find.

I can’t see the things that make true happiness, I must be blind.

Make a joke and I will sigh and you will laugh and I will cry.

Happiness I cannot feel and love to me is so unreal.

And so as you hear these words telling you now of my state.

I tell you to enjoy life I wish I could but it’s too late.

By Luckoduh

February 22, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

I need someone to show me the things in life that I can’t find.

I can’t see the things that make true happiness, I must be blind.

Make a joke and I will sigh and you will laugh and I will cry.

Happiness I cannot feel and love to me is so unreal.

And so as you hear these words telling you now of my state.

I tell you to enjoy life I wish I could but it’s too late.

By Luckoduh

February 22, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

I need someone to show me the things in life that I can’t find.

I can’t see the things that make true happiness, I must be blind.

Make a joke and I will sigh and you will laugh and I will cry.

Happiness I cannot feel and love to me is so unreal.

And so as you hear these words telling you now of my state.

I tell you to enjoy life I wish I could but it’s too late.

By AJC Management

February 22, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

{{{{The Swift Boat Veterans were a political group with open political goals. By contrast, the Times (at least on its news pages) is supposed to report the news, not take sides. Yet the Times and the rest of the mainstream media, having for the most part uncritically accepted the Kerry narrative, sided with him when the Swift Boat Veterans came forward.}}}}

{{{{News organizations inevitably have an effect on the events they cover, but good newsmen are circumspect about the line between reporting and political advocacy. The Times’s treatment of this McCain story suggests that the desire to make an impact overcame that circumspection.}}}}

So the AJC and the rest of the drive by media have no “good newsman,” eh?

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{{{{ Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s latest campaign finance report, published Wednesday night, appeared even to her most stalwart supporters and donors to be a road map of her political and management failings. Several of them, echoing political analysts, expressed concerns that Mrs. Clinton’s spending priorities amounted to costly errors in judgment that have hamstrung her competitiveness against Senator Barack Obama of Illinois.}}}}

{{{{“We didn’t raise all of this money to keep paying consultants who have pursued basically the wrong strategy for a year now,” said a prominent New York donor.}}}}

Bwa.

By Plato

February 22, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

“Now is the time that we are going,” Socrates said, “I to die and you to live. But which of us has the happier prospect is unknown to anyone but God.”

By Plato

February 22, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

“Now is the time that we are going,” Socrates said, “I to die and you to live. But which of us has the happier prospect is unknown to anyone but God.”

By Plato

February 22, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

“Now is the time that we are going,” Socrates said, “I to die and you to live. But which of us has the happier prospect is unknown to anyone but God.”

By Plato

February 22, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

“Now is the time that we are going,” Socrates said, “I to die and you to live. But which of us has the happier prospect is unknown to anyone but God.”

By fred

February 22, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

WHAT A LUCK-UP WHAT A LUCK-UP WHAT A LUCK-UP WHAT A LUCK-UP

By Glenn

February 22, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Nope, Luckoduh, even the DNC-AJC is not that stupid. No, our PoFo is a lonely and impotent Walter Mitty, pretending to the greatness of a Father of the Internet and Giver of Weather.

Poor wretched creature is merely a p!ssing gargoyle.

By AJC Management

February 22, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

{{{{Let’s face it. It’s over. Teamsters President James P. Hoffa may have provided the last bit of muscle Wednesday with his union’s endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.). Barring a serious meltdown in the debates — or a sensational revelation — Obama will be the Democratic presidential nominee this fall.}}}}

{{{{The punditry agrees that a victory for Sen. Ku Klux Rodham (N.Y.) is at best improbable at this point. Ever-helpful Bill Klux says that if Ku Klux doesn’t win Texas and Ohio, she’s toast. Our most recent poll shows a virtual tie in Texas and KKKlinton with a seven-point lead in Ohio.}}}}

{{{{Problem is, looking at the numbers, KKKlinton has to win both of them big. Obama has a lead of 150 elected or “pledged” delegates, according to NBC’s calculation (The Washington Post uses a different formula to count). KKKlinton needs to win 58 percent of all remaining pledged delegates simply to get her lead back, NBC political director Chuck Todd notes. But that’s hypothetical. The reality is worse.-Wapo}}}}

Bwa.

By Luckoduh is Iron Man

February 22, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

Well, maybe Iron Maiden…

(Actually, my joints are very loose, especially my wrists…)

By AJC Management

February 22, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

Glenn: Considering that the Atlanta Journal Constitution long ago abandoned any hint of honesty and integrity, why would harassing their Conservative bloggers be a big issue?

Besides, can you post 4 comments in a minute?

Why is Polly not subject to the comment limiter?

Think about it, two years solid, 24/7, never contributing anything of interest, just idiotic blather except for when your name jacking the Conservatives and calling them fa-ggots.

If he don’t work for the AJC then he must be an extreme loser.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

Wingnut Brigade Mowed Down At Obama Ridge

Somebody earlier this afternoon muttered something abut it “taking more than one guy”.

That’s a brilliant idea!!!!

Maybe what we need is a movement, millions of people hopeful, vocal and active.

Any idea where we could find one?

By N-GA

February 22, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

It may take “more than one guy”, but it only takes one LEADER!

By Glenn

February 22, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

ITN,

Yes, in the eyes of the law, the victim of a tort, an actionable harm. Your plagiarism and republication of libel (which was itself both plagiarism and republication of verbal defamation, slander) violates my First Amendment rights because it is published in the DNC-AJC.

Here’s how that works. The U.S. Supreme Court has long held that our speech rights include the right to receive, as well as to disseminate, information and ideas. With this end in view, the Court has recognized that a special latitude is granted to daily newspapers such as this one.

That latitude has its limits, however, and plagiarism and defamation are beyond the limits of that protection. They are unprotected speech, for three reasons: they harm the owner of the stolen material; they harm the one defamed; they abridge the right of the reader to receive information and ideas.

Known lies presented under the masthead of a daily newspaper, in any form, as facts of public import, do not constitute information or ideas protected by the Constitution that guarantees my rights. Get it?

That’s why the combination of you, a child urinating against the buttress, and PoFo, a p!ssing gargoyle in the mask of a watcher, makes for enough urea to blow up a rental truck and the DNC-AJC along with it.

The really special thing is that, as you’ve shown again today, you’re oblivous of these facts.

By Lee

February 22, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

The only thing wrong with Luckovich’s cartoon is……He should be in the middle, with Obama and Clinton on either side of him. Poor taste and bad manners is too much to ask of Luckovich……..the S-O-B!

By Glenn

February 22, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

And yes, I can post four times in a minute. I just did. I’m Plato for a Day! [Won’t the p!ssing gargoyle have fun with Greek innuendo…]

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

Glenn

All that because I didn’t do this {{{ }}}

I have always been known as kind of a buccaneer.

ARRRRGH!

By Glenn

February 22, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Beg to differ Lee. HUMOROUSLY poor taste and bad manners are too much to ask of Mike Luckovich.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

The RNC Keeps Sending Rachel Maddow Email Looking For Cash

That’s 41 cents they probably could have saved.

Night y’all

By AJC Management

February 22, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS February 22, 2008 6:24 PM The RNC Keeps Sending Rachel Maddow Email Looking For Cash. That’s 41 cents they probably could have saved.}}}}

You don’t have to put any postage on emails, dimwit.

~~~~~

{{{{White House Spokesman Scott Stanzel would not comment on specific details in the story, but told reporters that he and others working in the administration felt the influential newspaper had a history of going after Republican presidential candidates.}}}}

{{{{“I think a lot of people here in this building with experience in a couple campaigns have grown accustomed to the fact that during the course of a campaign, about — seemingly on maybe a monthly basis leading up to the convention, maybe a weekly basis after that, The New York Times does try to drop a bombshell on the Republican nominee,” Stanzel told reporters.}}}}

By RW-(the original)

February 22, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

The $95,000 charge came at the Hy-Vee store in West Des Moines, a grocery and deli chain that is a fixture in the state, on Jan. 1, just two days before Obama stunned Clinton by beating her in the Iowa caucuses.

Too bad there isn’t a follow up as to whether A) the deli got paid and B) whether it’s even true that Clinton bought all this from them. Sounds like the making’s of a slush fund more than a sandwich.

By Blogoholics Anonymous

February 22, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Wow Glenn. You need to take a break from the blogs. You take this waaaay too serious.

You need some help bud.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Damn, RW you got me again.

No stamps on e-mails. Check.

So the keyboard doesn’t have to go into the envelope either then?

First you taught me how to link now this! You’re a hell of a great guy thanks.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

Oh, one more thing then I gotta start the coals.

From Glenn earlier

{{{Known lies presented under the masthead of a daily newspaper, in any form, as facts of public import, do not constitute information or ideas protected by the Constitution that guarantees my rights. Get it?

That’s why the combination of you, a child urinating against the buttress, and PoFo, a p!ssing gargoyle in the mask of a watcher, makes for enough urea to blow up a rental truck and the DNC-AJC along with it.}}}

Boy that urine reference is familiar? Don’t tell us we’ve got another DUH?

By canine catchers of america

February 22, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

canine catcher up in pofo

watch me crank it watch me roll

watch me crank that pofo hoe

watch me yuuuuaahh (crank that pofo hoe)

Supaman that pofo hoe

Super fresh, now watch me jock

Watch me lean and watch me rock

jocking on you hater mayn

I lean to the left and crank dat thang

(now yuuuah)

By AJC Management

February 22, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS February 22, 2008 6:54 PM Boy that urine reference is familiar? Don’t tell us we’ve got another DUH?}}}}

Yeah sure thing dimwit, the rWgLenN@@duHzEll monster is coming to get you.

Paranoid much?

By RW-(the original)

February 22, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

Actually ITFS I didn’t go to your link so I took it that your plagiarized portion might mean that the GOP was sending out a copy of some drivel Rachel Maddow wrote in an email through a postal mailing.

I sure hope you get what little of a game you ever had back by next week. Your Quixotic quest to attempt to trick Andy or myself with the same trap we always catch your brethren with won’t work because we really are two different posters.

Good luck with it though Don. Say hello to Sancho.

By IN THE NEWS

February 22, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

Paranoid? Hell no.

Just don’t want any puddles of DUH on the carpet.

Besides in the end old Quixote is considered the hero.

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