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By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 7:48 AM | Link to this

Looks like the Demoncrats are running away from the Hilderbeast in droves, like she and Bill are politically radioactive. Serves the Shrill right! The KKKlintons deserve every last bit of what’s happening to them. After the “Jesse Jackson” comment by Bill KKKlinton after the South Carolina primary, the black constituency finally started to see Sick Willie and Hitlery’s true kkkolors shining through, huh.

By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

It’s easy to see why poor little Bill and Hillary are having problems on the campaign trail…How can one possibly expect the KKKlintons to compete when they can barely get by on a “shoestring budget” of 140 million dollars? I don’t see how any campaign could make it on that miniscule of a budget.

By IN THE NEWS Is A Name Jacking Coward

February 19, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

Look at the Atlanta Urinal Constitution lie:

{{{{—->Pakistanis reject U.S. ally<——- Early election returns showed that Pakistanis voting Monday overwhelmingly rejected the party of President Pervez Musharraf, which has been closely associated since 2001 with the Bush administration’s efforts to combat the region’s militants.-Urinal Screaming Front Page Headline.}}}}

What a fundamentally false, total fabrication of a “news” story.

{{{{State-run Pakistan TV said this morning that unofficial tallies were complete for 115 of the 268 parliament seats being contested. It gave former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s opposition Pakistan Muslim League-N and ————>slain former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto’s<———— Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) nearly 70 percent of the vote.}}}}

This is EXACTLY what Bush wanted.

{{{{The United States pressured Pakistan to allow former prime minister Benazir Bhutto to return from exile, promoting her as a moderate influence in a country facing a growing threat from Islamic extremists, a Pakistani government spokesman said. “She says what America wants to hear,” Deputy Information Minister Tariq Azim Khan said in a weekend interview with USA TODAY. He said the U.S. government forced a reluctant Pakistan to allow her to return after eight years of self-imposed exile: “You twisted our arm.”}}}}

How stupid and goony can the AJC possibly be, al Qaeda assassinated her so how can this be anything but a vote against the terrorists?

In other words, you liberals have lost again.

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Here’s another loss for you pinkos to chew on:

{{{{Ailing leader Fidel Castro resigned as Cuba’s president early Tuesday after nearly a half-century in power.}}}}

Kennedy’s mistake finally gone.

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{{{{To begin with, all visitors to Tehran (Iran) report an extraordinary level of sympathy with the U.S. among the general population. On my own visit to the country, I was astonished by the sheer number of people who had relatives overseas, and who wished they could join them. Most especially among the young, pro-American cultural and musical “statements” are as common as they were in Eastern Europe before 1989.}}}}

By IN THE NEWS Is A Name Jacking Coward

February 19, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

Watch the wormy little goon stories the libs start publishing to clear the way for the Klan to steal the nomination:

{{{{Should victor share spoils?- Democrats may rethink their process-Urinal}}}}

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{{{{In Darwin’s day the cell was thought to be little more than a “simple lump of protoplasm,” or, in another ludicrous simplification, a “cavity” filled with a “homogenous transparent fluid.” Now the cell is seen to resemble a high-tech factory. How did it get that way? There’s no answer in the Darwinian scheme — other than trial and error. The DNA within the cell, once thought to be mostly (98 percent) “junk” is now believed to be functional all the way through (a dividend of the Human Genome Project). The evolutionists were obliged to believe in a fundamentally simple world because all they had was an elementary mechanism — random mutation plus natural selection — to account for it.}}}}

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{{{{The Wall Street Journal’s Steve Moore has done the math on Mr. Obama’s tax plan. He says it will add up to a 39.6 percent personal income tax, a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax and a 55 percent estate tax.}}}}

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Let me put this in context with three contentious issues — one economic, one cultural, and one on foreign policy. In each case, President Bush took a clear stand. In each case, he was accused of stupidity or stubbornness and sometimes both. In each case, the facts on the ground increasingly bear the president out, sometimes dramatically. Yet the beat goes on — with no sense of the great irony that it may be our writers and pundits who are stubbornly clinging to old assumptions.

By Shawny

February 19, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

David Brooks of the NYT gets it about Obama.

The majic will fade and people will look behind the curtain at the real wizard, and won’t like what they really see.

By IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

THIS WAS POSTED LAST NIGHT I THINK IT’S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST

{{{{By IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward

February 18, 2008 7:16 PM | Link to this

As childish and hysterical as the name jackings have become…

{{{{By Luckoduh Loves Dick Cheney February 18, 2008 6:47 PM I love it when he shoots me in the face.}}}}

…is there any doubt of who the name jacker is?

——->IN THE NEWS<——-

What a loser.

By Bye }}}}}

February 18, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

[[The pent up righteous anger of the American people is EVERYWHERE! When your hardware guy says the country is going down the toilet YOU KNOW people are paying attention. I promise you I know real Obamacans. Moderate voices, fooled by GOP and “New” Christians for a while - but no longer.]]

[[I’ll be damned if I let some little right wing weenie continue to spit on the Constitution.]]

AmVet and ITN are conjoined twins.

One continuous d-ick with the same teeny weeny obsessive brain.

By RW-(the original)

February 18, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this

{{{{{I am just one of the citizens that will be doing the slappin’.}}}}}}

That doesn’t surprise anybody little newsie namejacker. All your kind is good for is slappin’ it.}}}}}

BROUGHT TO YOU BY FINE UPSTANDING REPUBLICANS

I PREFER THIS: WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR:

Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it’s only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential.

I opposed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996. It should be repealed and I will vote for its repeal on the Senate floor. I will also oppose any proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban gays and lesbians from marrying.

There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.

Today we are engaged in a deadly global struggle for those who would intimidate, torture, and murder people for exercising the most basic freedoms. If we are to win this struggle and spread those freedoms, we must keep our own moral compass pointed in a true direction.

Barack Obama

It’s a season of choice

By Luckoduh Loves Dick Cheney

February 19, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney… ;>

By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

This morning after my vente Starbucks double latte, I sat refreshing the AJC Comment page from 7:30 until 7:45 when the Post a Comment finally appeared (Sheesh!!!!!!), so I could begin my little mission and keep the voices in my head at bay — SHUT UP!!!!! — and I’ll show you ALL who’s the BOSS in this Comment PAGE!!!! Yer messin with the WRONG PERSON!!!! ARRRRGGGHHH!!!

By RW-(the original)

February 19, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Ooooh, the chill this morning made it difficult to pull my head out of my posterior long enough to type my first vitriol on the board, just in case no one noticed last night..I thought I’d repost to make sure people notice my outright bile-laced messages! It’s important always to get the last word, and the first word, and to police the thoughts of “free” citizenry…you’ll only be free until we all take over, before we shut you into little cells and retrain your brains.

By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Life is like a bocks of chocklits!

By FRANKLEEDARLING

February 19, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

DUH wipe your mouth off still some crap hanging from your lip.silly a* pony

By getalife

February 19, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Mike,

I am surprised you missed this opportunity on Obama punking his supporters:

Cons eventually catch up with you. Obama’s played his supporters for suckers. They bought into the hope hype, sucking up this stuff with a straw, only to find out Obama’s not an original, he’s a knock off, of a governor, no less. Siphoning off of a winning campaign to try to win the presidency with a formula. Hey, it’s politics. One campaign model fits ‘em all. Put your twenty bucks in the bucket and shut the hell up!

“Barack Obama isn’t an original. He’s the first 21st century L. Ron Hubbard of politics, Elmer Gantry, name your huckster.

“I have a dream” just became “I have a con.”

Hilarious.

By FRANKLEEDARLING

February 19, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

Cant wait till we have a DEM prez

can we ban Duh.

By Jeanette Johnson

February 19, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Regarding the cartoon 2-17-08. This is cruel and unnecessary. I am a counselor and tell my clients that bring up the past is just like taking the scab off a wound. the pain is the same as with the first injury. Your implication that Hillary is so desperate to win is absurd and down right hateful. I think you owe her an apology now.

By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

KISS MY GRITS, YEW REETARD!!! YEW NEED TO TAKE ME SERRIUSLY!!!

By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

I”M NOT AS STUPD I MEAN CRAZY AS YOU ARE STOOPID!!

By RW-(the original)

February 19, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Now, now, Andy darling, don’t get your panties in a wad. Let’s go out for tea and biscuits tonight and forget all about our upcoming losses. Maybe we can pray for another war!

By Mack

February 19, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

No, jeanette, mike owes comedy itself an apology for hacking. that’s the problem with selling out, or getting an award, or surrounding yourself with admirers and yes men: Your creativity dies.

I’ll bet over a million people saw the “go bama” riff on Obama’s name, but REJECTED IT as too obvious. Never go with a “change two letters and you get hitler” formula. NEVER. everyone sees it WAY B4 u do, pal.

I’m so angry and shocked and disappointed, I dont know if I’m going to get over this at all. I mean you draw one good one for every ten that stink now, pal. If I have to suffer heat for a bit that stinks you need to own up too, sir. Now take a break, let some intern write for you, or do a contest or anything, but get out of the country. Go join Bush in Africa and get some ideas.

But do stop drawing. You’re a fiend. Nobody draws that much but you. Nobody wants to. Get it? Good, now drop it.

hitler.

By ThomasPaine

February 19, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Sacred cows are for slaughtering.

By AntiRadical

February 19, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Obscure toon ML. I don’t keep up with John Lewis enough to know what you are even lampooning. Anyone care to enlighten me?

ITN- I have, also, been the object of Luckoduh’s (aka Andy’s) affection. My grandfather once gave me a very sage piece of advice. He said, “You can’t win a p** contest with a prick.” I hope that you will allow the radical right to wallow in its’ mire and that you will choose to rise above these sort of Karl Rove style antics in the future.

Speaking for myself, I must say that this sort of thing just bores the hell out of me. See it for what it is; the radical right attempting to silence free discussion and drag others down to their level. It is an act of desperation.

I don’t know about you, but I choose to be better, not the same, as them. Rational readers here are very familiar with Andy’s antics by now, you don’t have to tell us or defend yourself. I invite you to join me in ignoring his radical right hissy fits instead of being controlled by them.

I do appreciate your many links to pertinent articles that express your points in a rational and reasoned manner. I, also, appreciate those posted by Andy when he chooses to act in a more civilized manner. Stick with the links and ignore the attacks is my advice to you both if you wish me to consider your positions to be credible.

By w00t

February 19, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Those who believe the Constitution means what it says should tremble at every effort to weaken any of its protections. The Constitution protects all “persons” and all “people” implicated by government behavior. So the government should be required, as it was until FISA, to obtain a 4th Amendment warrant to conduct surveillance of anyone, American or not, in the U.S. or not.

{{{Andrew P. Napolitano, a New Jersey Superior Court judge from 1987 to 1995, is the senior judicial analyst at the Fox News Channel. His latest book is “A Nation of Sheep.”}}}

Maybe DUH can understand this, coming from a person that speaks for FOX news.

By FRANKLEEDARLING

February 19, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

ditto 9:31

By Luckoduh Loves Dick Cheney

February 19, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

I tried to enlist. Thank God for ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ - they could tell. They didn’t believe that my skirt was a taffetta kilt.

So, I resume my chickenhawk blogging with a clear conscience!

By IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

The Adventures of Captain Blowhard and Bombastic Lad

By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Huckabee gave speech to white supremacists There’s a man after my own hart!!!!!

By AmVet

February 19, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

ITN, that you and I both are able to annoy the hell out all of the flat-earth society and reduce them to anonymous juvenile delinquency is not very remarkable.

And that they are constantly besieged with sophomoric name calling and insults from other simple-minded, but politically opposing numbskulls, is partially well-deserved blowback and partially karma.

I have tried for a long time to engage any and all of them in serious discussions without the rancor. As I’m generally more interested in debating those with differing opinions, based on logic and reason, I have genuinely tried, but have found it to be almost completely futile. Ultimately the fringe relies excessively, almost exclusively, on the Newt-inspired and Coulter-updated play book of epithets and enmity.

As a result they are being marginalized on almost nationwide scale now, on virtually every major American policy position from the desperate denials of man-induced global warming to the phony “family values” morality to the bungled, deadly and deceitful invasion of Iraq to the now roundly dismissed Reagan 11th commandment that was one of the cornerstones of this stunning collapse of arrogant and hubris-filled men.

I believe it is very apparent that the few deluded apologists here are now representative of a tiny and constantly dwindling minority with very big mouths. And not much more.

By AmVet

February 19, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Uh oh! Is this the kiss of death?

HOUSTON — Former President George H.W. Bush endorsed John McCain on Monday, a nod of approval from the Republican political dynasty’s patriarch that sends a strong signal to a GOP establishment wary of the Arizona senator.

McCain MAY actually be smart enough to realize that if he overly courts the lunatic fringe/religious right and the currently entrenched bumbling and pig-headed neo-cons, he does so at the enormous risk of driving off the independents, moderates, and fed up Democrats and Republicans who could get him in the White House.

The way I see the current realities, the dwindling, impotent “base” is no longer a live or die aspect for a Republican to win a Presidential election.

He may invoke the name of Ronnie and his “conservatism” when it plays well, but given his well-documented past, it is unlikely he really believes a lot of that tripe.

By IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Thanks AmVet

By IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

Thanks again AmVet.

Good job namejacking, but I wish you wouldn’t make it look like I do it everytime.

By Goldie

February 19, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

The Dems just can’t wait for November — and good riddance to the Grumpy Old Party for the next decade!

By RE

February 19, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

getalife,

linking to taylor marsh are you?

Man that woman is unhinged, she has a long list of anti-obama stuff out there, she is a hard core pro hillary partisan.

And she will say anything to try to stop obama.

The democratic nomination is not happening in a vaccum though, her attack ads are bringing her down in the polls vs McCain. When this goes to the supers, and the polls show 60% McCain 40% Clinton and 60% Obama 40% McCain she will not get the nomination.

By IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Photo taken from Bush motorcade in Tanzania

By getalife

February 19, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

RE,

The gop will use it against Obama. The corporate media are letting it go hoping he is the nominee.

Obama is a fraud and will lose.

By Luckoduh

February 19, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Soy un perdedor

By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Soy un perdedor, baby.

By Luckoduh Loves Dick Cheney

February 19, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

With or without the Cheney.

Seriously, I’m really sad I can’t be in the Army - it seems our services have no position for a stupid poof.

Except for Commander-in-Chief.

By Mack

February 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Lindsey Lohan! Will Brittney follow suit? (no pun) Then Paris, then the bush twins? then the cast of cashmere mafia?

By IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward

February 19, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AntiRadical February 19, 2008 9:31 AM Speaking for myself, I must say that this sort of thing just bores the hell out of me. See it for what it is; the radical right attempting to silence free discussion and drag others down to their level. It is an act of desperation.}}}}

Spammie: Say, is this an admission to the blog that you are too ignorant to check the blog archives to see who exactly it was that started what you are whining about now?

And what, pray tell, would make you believe I’m name jacking?

Or do things like that matter to a child molester hanging out in Thailand?

You having fun with those underage boys, Anti Radical?

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{{{{“Wisconsin will be an important sign of things to come in what is likely to be a make or break day in the campaign” on March 4, said Democratic pollster Geoffrey Garin, who is not working for either candidate.}}}}

Let the best freako liberal win.

{{{{Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama honored Presidents’ Day with a schoolyard whinefest about who lifted someone else’s campaign rhetoric without proper credit. While George Washington and Abraham Lincoln’s faces grace our coins, the ex-Presidents may not have appreciated the penny-ante, two-bit argument the rival Democratic campaigns waged Monday.}}}}

Hehehe.

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Like I said, the Pakistan election is a victory for Bushie and the United States:

{{{{The Awami National Party, a Pashtun nationalist group, was leading in the northwest with 30 of the 99 contested assembly seats while Bhutto’s party was trailing second with 15. ———>The party of pro-Taliban cleric, Maulana Fazl-ur Rehman, won only eight seats.<———}}}}

Al Qaeda got stomped.

Again.

By Cindi

February 19, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward-

I think anti radical was trying to compliment you when he attributed the “IN THE NEWS” namejacks to you.

The “PMS” and “VG itch” posts were hilarious while the “Luckoduh” name jacks are something you’d expect from a small child.

Then again, maybe anti radical finds his humor in things that are so incredibly lame.

By Andy's Mom

February 19, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Oh dear. Whats wrong with you people? Are you trying to give my poor Andy another breakdown? He cried for an hour and a half this morning. This is his blog and I can’t understand why you are trying to take it away from him. This blog is his life. I thought liberals were supposed to be compassionate.

Mental health should be taken a little more seriously, don’t you think?

I got him a little calmed down with a nice lunch of Spaghetti-O’s and Kraft macaroni and cheese, his favorites.

Please try to work with me on this. When he gets upset like this he has diarrhea and those diapers are not very pleasant to deal with.

Goodness gracious, I beg you, please help him stay out of the hospital. GIVE HIM HIS BLOG BACK.

(ps, In The News is a big fat meanie!)

By Apocalypse

February 19, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama’s Plan Ending the War in Iraq Judgment You Can Trust:

As a candidate for the United States Senate in 2002, Obama put his political career on the line to oppose going to war in Iraq, and warned of “an occupation of undetermined length, with undetermined costs, and undetermined consequences.” Obama has been a consistent, principled and vocal opponent of the war in Iraq: In 2003 and 2004, he spoke out against the war on the campaign trail; In 2005, he called for a phased withdrawal of our troops; In 2006, he called for a timetable to remove our troops, a political solution within Iraq, and aggressive diplomacy with all of Iraq’s neighbors; In January 2007, he introduced legislation in the Senate to remove all of our combat troops from Iraq by March 2008. In September 2007, he laid out a detailed plan for how he will end the war as president. Bring Our Troops Home: Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda. Press Iraq’s leaders to reconcile: The best way to press Iraq’s leaders to take responsibility for their future is to make it clear that we are leaving. As we remove our troops, Obama will engage representatives from all levels of Iraqi society – in and out of government – to seek a new accord on Iraq’s Constitution and governance. The United Nations will play a central role in this convention, which should not adjourn until a new national accord is reached addressing tough questions like federalism and oil revenue-sharing. Regional Diplomacy: Obama will launch the most aggressive diplomatic effort in recent American history to reach a new compact on the stability of Iraq and the Middle East. This effort will include all of Iraq’s neighbors – including Iran and Syria. This compact will aim to secure Iraq’s borders; keep neighboring countries from meddling inside Iraq; isolate al Qaeda; support reconciliation among Iraq’s sectarian groups; and provide financial support for Iraq’s reconstruction. Humanitarian Initiative: Obama believes that America

By Apocalypse

February 19, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama’s Plan Restore Fiscal Discipline to Washington Reinstate PAYGO Rules:

Obama believes that a critical step in restoring fiscal discipline is enforcing pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) budgeting rules which require new spending commitments or tax changes to be paid for by cuts to other programs or new revenue. Reverse Bush Tax Cuts for the Wealthy: Obama will protect tax cuts for poor and middle class families, but he will reverse most of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers. Cut Pork Barrel Spending: Obama introduced and passed bipartisan legislation that would require more disclosure and transparency for special-interest earmarks. Obama believes that spending that cannot withstand public scrutiny cannot be justified. Obama will slash earmarks to no greater than year 2001 levels and ensure all spending decisions are open to the public. Make Government Spending More Accountable and Efficient: Obama will ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid. Obama will also increase the efficiency of government programs through better use of technology, stronger management that demands accountability and by leveraging the government’s high-volume purchasing power to get lower prices. End Wasteful Government Spending: Obama will stop funding wasteful, obsolete federal government programs that make no financial sense. Obama has called for an end to subsidies for oil and gas companies that are enjoying record profits, as well as the elimination of subsidies to the private student loan industry which has repeatedly used unethical business practices. Obama will also tackle wasteful spending in the Medicare program. Make the Tax System More Fair and Efficient End Tax Haven Abuse: Building on his bipartisan work in the Senate, Obama will give the Treasury Department the tools it needs to stop the abuse of tax shelters and offshore tax havens and help close the $350 billion tax gap between taxes owed and taxes paid. Close Special Interest Corporate Loopholes: Obama will level the playing field for all businesses by eliminating special-interest loopholes and deductions, such as those for the oil and gas industry. Barack Obama’s Record PAYGO: Obama voted in 2005, 2006, and 2007 to reinstate pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) federal budget rules. No-Bid Contracts: Obama has introduced and helped pass bipartisan legislation to limit the abuse of no-bid federal contracts. Against Raising the Federal Debt Limit: In 2006, Oba

By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

I’m NOT a small child!! I have a big dog! he bites!!! Stay off my propertee and away from my trailer!!!

By Luckoduh

February 19, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Yew’d better off leave me the HELL alone b’for I sic my sister on yew!

By Mack

February 19, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Obamamania is real. he will be elected.

Iraq is real too. If Obama slowly draws out troops, the sunnis will start up the insurgency again and Obama will be forced to stop the troop drain, or even reverse it back to full strength.

Do you tards really think the 10K year old ethnic and 1.4k year old sectarian civil war can be solved because we elected a black man?

They hate each other to death. Okay? they’re not going to stop fighting. They’ll slaughter each other till it’s last caliph standing. And Iran is not supposed to take advantage of chaos and grab some oil fields? give me a break.

We are stuck forever, trapped like rats, in Iraq. Know it. believe it. Live it.

and stfu. you horrid tards. You know nothing. You blog nonsense all day long like cockroaches. None of you understand Obamamania and why Hillary is finished. None of you know what it means that McCain set fire to an aircraft carrier in nam. none of you can extrapolate a turd out of your own azzes.

You’re just mealy mouthed stupid heads and future fodder for new legislation outlawing trolls from blogs. I cant wait. Now I totally get Robespierre, man, oh, yeah.

By Cindi

February 19, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

None of you can handle a real woman, like my idol.

By Mack

February 19, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Horrid tards! Did I really say that?? I should never type angry posts when I’m wearing Victoria’s Secret…

By Mack

February 19, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

How dare you namejack me? HOW DARE YOU!! I’m the king of this blog! Me! and only me! I told the ajc editors this would happen, but no, they wouldn’t listen, they laughed at me. ME! Now I hope they’re happy, cause we’ve been surrounded by trolls. All the real bloggers are being wiped out. We need more men, more equipment, more everything.

there’s only one hope. one man that I know of that can rid this board of trolls. His name is John Wilkes Bluetooth, (troll assassin). His motto is “Sic Semper Trollanus”. His card sez, “Have mouse, will hunt trolls”.

Now I can get him, and he’s good, but it’ll cost you. He’ll start by exterminating wipemysnatch, the worst troll of all.

Up to you, dont care here.

By Apocalypse

February 19, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama’s Healthcare Plan- Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All Obama’s Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans:

Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Guaranteed eligibility. No American will be turned away from any insurance plan because of illness or pre-existing conditions. Comprehensive benefits. The benefit package will be similar to that offered through Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FEHBP), the plan members of Congress have. The plan will cover all essential medical services, including preventive, maternity and mental health care. Affordable premiums, co-pays and deductibles. Subsidies. Individuals and families who do not qualify for Medicaid or SCHIP but still need financial assistance will receive an income-related federal subsidy to buy into the new public plan or purchase a private health care plan. Simplified paperwork and reined in health costs. Easy enrollment. The new public plan will be simple to enroll in and provide ready access to coverage. Portability and choice. Participants in the new public plan and the National Health Insurance Exchange (see below) will be able to move from job to job without changing or jeopardizing their health care coverage. Quality and efficiency. Participating insurance companies in the new public program will be required to report data to ensure that standards for quality, health information technology and administration are being met. National Health Insurance Exchange: The Obama plan will create a National Health Insurance Exchange to help individuals who wish to purchase a private insurance plan. The Exchange will act as a watchdog group and help reform the private insurance market by creating rules and standards for participating insurance plans to ensure fairness and to make individual coverage more affordable and accessible. Insurers would have to issue every applicant a policy, and charge fair and stable premiums that will not depend upon health status. The Exchange will require that all the plans offered are at least as generous as the new public plan and have the same standards for quality and efficiency. The Exchange would evaluate plans and make the differences among the plans, including cost of services, public. Emplo

By Apocalypse

February 19, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama’s Economic Plan- Provide Middle Class Americans Tax Relief Obama will cut income taxes by $1,000 for working families to offset the payroll tax they pay.

Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families: Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new “Making Work Pay” tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. The “Making Work Pay” tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans. Simplify Tax Filings for Middle Class Americans: Obama will dramatically simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes. Obama will ensure that the IRS uses the information it already gets from banks and employers to give taxpayers the option of pre-filled tax forms to verify, sign and return. Experts estimate that the Obama proposal will save Americans up to 200 million total hours of work and aggravation and up to $2 billion in tax preparer fees. Trade Obama believes that trade with foreign nations should strengthen the American economy and create more American jobs. He will stand firm against agreements that undermine our economic security.

Fight for Fair Trade: Obama will fight for a trade policy that opens up foreign markets to support good American jobs. He will use trade agreements to spread good labor and environmental standards around the world and stand firm against agreements like the Central American Free Trade Agreement that fail to live up to those important benchmarks. Obama will also pressure the World Trade Organization to enforce trade agreements and stop countries from continuing unfair government subsidies to foreign exporters and nontariff barriers on U.S. exports. Amend the North American Free Trade Agreement: Obama believes that NAFTA and its potential were oversold to the American people. Obama will work with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to fix NAFTA so that it works for American workers. Improve Transition Assistance: To help all workers adapt to a rapidly changing economy, Obama would update the existing system of Trade Adjustment Assistance by extending it to service industries, creating flexible education accounts to help workers retrain, and providing retraining assistance for workers in sectors of the economy vulnerable to dislocation before they lose their jobs. Technology, Innovation and Creating Jobs

By Mack

February 19, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Damn you neotards! Listen up. I rule these blogs. And I speet on all of you…

“Cause I’m too sexy for your party

Too sexy for your party

No way I’m disco dancing

I’m a model you know what I mean and I do my little turn on the catwalk

Yeah on the catwalk on the catwalk yeah I do my little turn on the catwalk

Cause I’m too sexy for my cat

too sexy for my cat

Poor poosy poor poosy cat

And I’m too sexy for this blog”

Come on everyone. File into the naked conga line! We’re headed for the cow paddies!

By Mack

February 19, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Damn, I’m good.

By IN THE NEWS Is A Name Jacking Coward

February 19, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Cindi February 19, 2008 12:32 PM IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward- I think anti radical was trying to compliment you when he attributed the “IN THE NEWS” namejacks to you.}}}}

Cindi: You are crediting Anti Radical with far more intelligence than he really has, to whit:

{{{{By AntiRadical February 19, 2008 9:31 AM See it for what it is; the radical right attempting to silence free discussion and drag others down to their level. I don’t know about you, but I choose to be better, not the same, as them.}}}}

Oh, so liberals are more “sophisticated,” eh?

{{{{By FRANKLEEDARLING February 19, 2008 8:56 AM DUH wipe your mouth off still some crap hanging from your lip.silly a* pony}}}}

{{{{By Luckoduh Loves Dick Cheney February 19, 2008 8:37 AM With or without the Cheney… ;>}}}}

{{{{By I’d rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell) February 19, 2008 12:41 PM I’m NOT a small child!! I have a big dog! he bites!!! Stay off my propertee and away from my trailer!!!}}}}

Trust me, normal people know that actions speak louder than words.

All Anti Radical, and his liberal cohorts, has for us are words.

By Steven Deadalus

February 19, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Obama can’t and won’t win! He is the Democrats early Christmas present to the Republicans. I plan, to vote for Huckabee, so that maybe we can wear little hats and sandals or something signifying that we are Christians. We can also chant a lot, maybe,”read my lips or corporate tax cuts forever, hail Bush,hail Dick” etc. Andi, that is Dick Cheney, not the other one, sorry.

By Apocalypse

February 19, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama’s Energy Plan Reduce Carbon Emissions 80 Percent by 2050 Cap and Trade:

Obama supports implementation of a market-based cap-and-trade system to reduce carbon emissions by the amount scientists say is necessary: 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050. Obama’s cap-and-trade system will require all pollution credits to be auctioned. A 100 percent auction ensures that all polluters pay for every ton of emissions they release, rather than giving these emission rights away to coal and oil companies. Some of the revenue generated by auctioning allowances will be used to support the development of clean energy, to invest in energy efficiency improvements, and to address transition costs, including helping American workers affected by this economic transition. Confront Deforestation and Promote Carbon Sequestration: Obama will develop domestic incentives that reward forest owners, farmers, and ranchers when they plant trees, restore grasslands, or undertake farming practices that capture carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Invest in a Clean Energy Future Invest $150 Billion over 10 Years in Clean Energy: Obama will invest $150 billion over 10 years to advance the next generation of biofuels and fuel infrastructure, accelerate the commercialization of plug-in hybrids, promote development of commercial-scale renewable energy, invest in low-emissions coal plants, and begin the transition to a new digital electricity grid. A principal focus of this fund will be devoted to ensuring that technologies that are developed in the U.S. are rapidly commercialized in the U.S. and deployed around the globe. Double Energy Research and Development Funding: Obama will double science and research funding for clean energy projects including those that make use of our biomass, solar and wind resources. Invest in a Skilled Clean Technologies Workforce: Obama will use proceeds from the cap-and-trade auction program to invest in job training and transition programs to help workers and industries adapt to clean technology development and production. Obama will also create an energy-focused Green Jobs Corps to connect disconnected and disadvantaged youth with job skills for a high-growth industry. Convert our Manufacturing Centers into Clean Technology Leaders: Obama will establish a federal investment program to help manufacturing centers modernize and Americans learn the new skills they need to produce green products. Clean Technologies Deployment

By Luckoduh

February 19, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

And words hurt, so leaf me awone or I’m gonna go tell! RW and RB, my menage-a-trois buddies will come to my defence !! Peeple knoe who I am and feer me! Becaus I’ve got the goods and teh fakts! Strate from Chainy’s mouth to FOX to my copy and paster!!

By IN THE NEWS Is A Name Jacking Coward

February 19, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Look at the liberals just simply speaking the truth:

{{{{Michelle Obama today said that ——>“for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country.<——- And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction.”}}}}

I wish I could say the same thing but I can’t; I have ALWAYS been proud of my country and I ALWAYS will be.

The United States of America has done more good in the world than any other people combined, we give of ourselves as no others have.

We sacrifice life and treasure for the freedom of others, asking nothing in return.

For somebody to say these things about this great country says more about them than it does America.

By RW-(the original)

February 19, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

You mortal fools have no idea who you are dealing with. I know people in high places, and when the day is done, I’ll see you whisked away to a small cell in Syria, who is our enemy but our friend, much like the Saudis. And then you’ll know the meaning of fear. Bwa-ha-ha-ha!

By IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

RW @ 1:31, 1:30, 1:22

whacko dude!

By RB from Gwinnett

February 19, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

{{{A 100 percent auction ensures that all polluters pay for every ton of emissions they release,}}}

Isn’t that just an additional tax on companies they’ll have to raise their prices to cover? Or maybe move production overseas where they don’t get raped by whiny liberals for making products in the US? You b*** about jobs being outsourced in one breath and then laud crap like this that will make them do it in the next. Typical of a well meaning liberal without the mental capicity to figure out the ramifications of well meaning but poorly thought out plans.

By Andy Luckoduh Poser

February 19, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Did you even knoe that namejacking is not eeven in the dikshunary? I’m such a little girl!

By IN THE NEWS Is A Name Jacking Coward

February 19, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

{{{{Liberals in general, and academics in particular, like to boast of their open-mindedness and acceptance of non-conformity. But they mean not conforming to the norms of society at large.}}}}

{{{{They have little or no tolerance to those who do not conform to the norms of academic political correctness. Nowhere else in America is free speech so restricted as on academic campuses with speech codes.}}}}

{{{{In Berkeley, as elsewhere, the left has learned to cloak their anti-military intolerance with the magic words, “We support the troops.” The liberal media use the same line when they undermine the military.}}}}

{{{{In this, as in other things, the flagship of the media is the New York Times. Unsubstantiated charges against American troops in Iraq are front page news but incredible acts of heroism in battle are seldom reported there, if at all.}}}}

If our troops have “friends” like the liberals, then who needs enemies?

By RB from Gwinnett

February 19, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

{{{A 100 percent auction ensures that all polluters pay for every ton of emissions they release,}}}

Isn’t that just an additional tax on companies they’ll have to raise their prices to cover? Or maybe move production overseas where they don’t get raped by whiny liberals for making products in the US? You b*** about jobs being outsourced in one breath and then laud crap like this that will make them do it in the next. Typical of a well meaning liberal without the mental capicity to figure out the ramifications of well meaning but poorly thought out plans.

By RB from Gwinnett

February 19, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

You dam libs make me want to shave my legs, fix a pomegranate martini, and smoke a Virginia Slim!

By IN THE NEWS Is A Name Jacking Coward

February 19, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

But thenn, what do I knoe about troops since I’m a POS who never served because of the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell thing…life is so unfair.

By IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

oh, and RB is also RW

so much crap and STILL just one troll.

By RB from Gwinnett

February 19, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

And what Republican ever thought about ramifications of anything, like the Iraq War, like borrowing against Social Security, like depending on foreign oil, like subprime loans, etc, etc, etc.

By IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Rove: ‘Thank God’ Bush invaded Iraq.

AND

[McCain Embraces Rove](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/10/mccain-embraces-roven85881.html

By IN THE NEWS Is A Name Jacking Coward

February 19, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

{{{{Mr. Geldof praised Mr. Bush for his work in delivering billions to fight disease and poverty in Africa, and blasted the U.S. press for ignoring the achievement.}}}}

{{{{Mr. Bush, said Mr. Geldof, “has done more than any other president so far.”}}}}

{{{{“This is the triumph of American policy really,” he said. “It was probably unexpected of the man. It was expected of the nation, but not of the man, but both rose to the occasion.”}}}}

Ditto.

By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

I luvs me some drama!

By IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Senate Outlook: An Analysis of Coattails

By @@

February 19, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

I have to “F” words for the far left democrats ml….

“Fickle” and “Feckless”.

By @@

February 19, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Oops! make that “two” F words.

By RW-(the original)

February 19, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Agreed, @@! Why not come over and teach me some more “F” words tonight?

By IN THE NEWS Is A Name Jacking Coward

February 19, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

{{{{The U.S. war on Serbia was unconstitutional, unjust and unwise. Congress never authorized it. Serbia, an ally in two world wars, had never attacked us. We made an enemy of the Serbs, and alienated Russia, to create a second Muslim state in the Balkans.}}}}

{{{{By intervening in a civil war where no vital interest was at risk, the United States, which is being denounced as loudly in Belgrade today as we are being cheered in Pristina, has acquired another dependency. And our new allies, the KLA, have been credibly charged with human trafficking, drug dealing, atrocities and terrorism.}}}}

{{{{We bombed Serbia, we were told, to stop the genocide in Kosovo. But there was no genocide. This was propaganda. The United Nations’ final casualty count of Serbs and Albanians in Slobodan Milosevic’s war did not add up to 1 percent of the dead in Mr. Lincoln’s war.}}}}

Gee, I wonder why the libs didn’t whine about that war?

Like they do about Iraq.

Partisan politics, maybe?

By Apocalypse

February 19, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

We are truly a nation of losers. Thankfully the Chinese will take over and do a better job.

By AmVet

February 19, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

And two for the GOP - f@cked-up frauds

By IN THE NEWS Is A Name Jacking Coward

February 19, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

{{{{The fresh, young face of Obama represents change, yes. But he also represents something very familiar: liberalism. Government as a permanent, inefficient, out-of-control crutch. Never mind the support of Edward Kennedy, who for many is the face of liberalism in America; Obama himself is the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate.}}}}

{{{{With Obama you get a naďveté about foreign policy. You get a radical on abortion who has opposed the most reasonable pullbacks on the Supreme Court’s inappropriate lawmaking, at a time when a chunk of Americans are for restrictions on the issue. You get someone who will pull troops out of Iraq “immediately,” with no heed to the consequences to our allies in the region and our own security.}}}}

By RW IS DUH, BUT I REMAIN IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

I guess the only way to keep my name safe is to create one that Little Ricky won’t steal.

Think this one will work?

ˇSorpresa! Mexican American Democrats of Texas Endorse Obama

By RW IS DUH, BUT I REMAIN IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

Olbermann: Worst Persons 2/18/08 - George W. Bush, Glenn Beck

By @@

February 19, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

(((Tribal elders from the Wazir and Daur tribes reached an agreement Feb. 18 with the government of North Waziristan to fight extremism and terrorism, according to a Feb. 19 press release from the office of the North Waziristan governor in Miran Shah, in Pakistan’s North-West Frontier Province. No details of the agreement were provided. This is the first agreement between the government and tribal elders rather than between the government and militants.)))

Putin is being humiliated on the world stage. I find it interesting that Finland and Germany have recognized Kosovo’s independence. There’s gonna be a domino effect in the former Soviet Union.

Turkey and Cyprus are getting it together at long last.

(((Finally, if Nicosia’s future government manages to negotiate reunification, then Cyprus’ position on the issue of the day — Kosovo — would change. Currently (Greek) Cyprus opposes Kosovar independence out of fears it would legitimize the de facto independence of Northern Cyprus. Were Greek and Turkish Cyprus to reunite, the logic beyond Nicosia’s opposition to Kosovo would evaporate.)))

We shall see.

By getalife

February 19, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

This is hilarious

WTF is wrong with the gop freak show?

Wow.

By RW IS DUH, BUT I REMAIN IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Why Shutting Down Wikileaks Will Backfire

By RW IS DUH, BUT I REMAIN IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

Six Questions for A.J. Rossmiller on the Politics of Intelligence

By RW IS DUH, BUT I REMAIN IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

24 Ways Republicans Lie

By IN THE NEWS Is A Name Jacking Coward

February 19, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

{{{{The Supreme Court dealt a setback Tuesday to civil rights and privacy advocates who oppose the Bush administration’s warrantless wiretapping program. The justices, without comment, turned down an appeal from the American Civil Liberties Union to let it pursue a lawsuit against the program that began shortly after the Sept. 11 terror attacks.}}}}

{{{{The action underscored the difficulty of mounting a challenge to the eavesdropping, which remains classified and was confirmed by President Bush only after a newspaper article revealed its existence.}}}}

By W stands for waterboarding

February 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Ah yes John McCain the Republicans Republican. So loyal to his party he almost switched the the Dems not so long ago:

“John McCain has been lying for several years about negotiations he held early in this decade over leaving the Republican party and either joining the Democratic party or, probably more likely, becoming an independent and caucusing with the Democrats as Sen. Jeffords (I-VT) was then doing.

“The person who knows most about those discussions is former Sen. Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD). And Daschle is not only a supporter of Obama. He’s played a key role in putting together the team of staffers and campaign operatives who make up Obama’s inner circle.”

FLIP FLOP, FLIP FLOP

By Luckoduh Loves Dick Nixon

February 19, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

With or without the Nixon…

;>~~

Yum!

By RW IS DUH, BUT I REMAIN IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Wilkes Sentenced to 12 Years in Prison for Bribing Cunningham

By IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward

February 19, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Flip Flop:

{{{{In a conference call Saturday, the longtime Democratic Party member contended the DNC should reconsider its tough sanctions on the two states, which held early contests in violation of party rules. He said millions of voters in Michigan and Florida would be otherwise disenfranchised—before acknowledging moments later that he had favored the sanctions.}}}}

{{{{Ickes explained that his different position essentially is due to the different hats he wears as both a DNC member and a Clinton adviser in charge of delegate counting. Clinton won the primary vote in Michigan and Florida, and now she wants those votes to count.}}}}

Plus, the klan doesn’t like Those People.

By IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward

February 19, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Like I was saying:

{{{{Pakistan’s parliamentary elections, delayed more than a month by the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, were held yesterday. The result was a big win for democracy and a defeat for both Pervez Musharraf’s dictatorship and radical Islamists. Here’s how the New York Times reported it:}}}}

{{{{Pakistanis dealt a crushing defeat to President Pervez Musharraf in parliamentary elections on Monday, in what government and opposition politicians said was a firm rejection of his policies since 2001 and those of his close ally, the United States.}}}}

And like I was saying:

{{{{The emergence of a Parliament of moderation should be good news for the United States, Shuja Nawaz, a Pakistani military analyst based in Washington, said. “If Parliament will now have a stronger hand than before in national decision making then the United States should be pleased, since it will not have to beg and cajole Pakistan to act in its own interests against the terrorists,” Mr. Nawaz said.}}}}

So why does the Atlanta Urinal Constitution report the news biased against America?

Is it because so many dimwit liberals rely on them for information?

By AmVet

February 19, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

One would think that as the days of W’s disastrous administration wind down, the “conservatives” would be relieved.

Yet the worst of the “faithful” still spit and puke their daily venom unabated.

Why is that?

I believe one reason is that they are infuriated that every single one of their “conservative” candidates was quickly dismissed as not remotely qualified by an America who saw through the frauds this time.

And that Huckabee keeps on hanging in there only illustrates the schism between the hard-core reactionaries and the new found centrists whose reason and ration may just be alive and well in the GOP.

It is extremely gratifying to know that at least there is not going to be a Bushbot like Rudy or Mitt in the White House.

If McCain can reign in the lunatic fringe in his party (I know, I know. Not likely) and if he can avoid the fatal mistake of moving in their direction, he may just do the unthinkable - a sort of reverse Bush 41.

By W stands for waterboarding

February 19, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Ah yes Dubya shows once again he has no idea how bad the common American has it these days:

Curry: “But you’re saying you’re going to have to carry that burden. You’re saying you’re going to have to carry that burden. Some Americans believe that they feel they’re carrying the burden because of this economy.”

Bush: “Yeah, well—”

Curry: “They say—they say they’re suffering because of this.”

Bush: “I don’t agree with that.”

Curry: “You don’t agree with that? Has nothing do with the economy, the war? The spending on the war?”

Bush: “I don’t think so. I think actually, the spending on the war might help with jobs.”

Curry: “Oh, yeah?”

Bush: “Yeah, because we’re buying equipment, and people are working. I think this economy is down because we built too many houses.”

Curry: “Mm-hmm.”

Yep sounds like that degree from Yale and Harvard really paid off there…

By I'd rather be waterboarding (Mad As Zell)

February 19, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Yes, Andy, reality has a liberal bias.

By Paul

February 19, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

W for waterboarding 4:56

Would you care to put that comment in the context of massive government spending for WWII production in ending the Great Depression?

Or, would you care to limit your comment to the evident implication that we did not “build too many houses”?

By W stands for waterboarding

February 19, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

Well Paul the difference is in WWII the country rationed everything. Gas, Rubber, Flour all the basic needs. And the Depression was over before WWII started. So answer this question Paul, what would the country have thought during WWII while they were rationing their belongings to have a company specifically a oil company making record profits? They would have been outraged and had investigations. But that does not happen in Dubyas world…………

By Paul

February 19, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

W for waterboarding

Well, I’ll have to disagree. Most of what I’ve read indicates WWII spending was a major factor in ending the Depression for the US. Some countries were coming out earlier, but they’d been involved in that war for a while. Plus that kind of makes a mess of the contention that government spending kick-starts an economy. Always seemed to be the Democratic credo during hard times.

Rationing was just a way to command resources into other areas. Such rationing today would have little effect other than ticking even more people off.

There were lots of investigations during WWII. “War profiteering” was not kindly looked upon.

I hope you’re not making the point that a major factor in many feeling economically put-out is because the Iraq war has caused oil companies to make record profits? BTW - I’m not defending the oil companies here - if you’ve read any of my posts on the topic you’d know that - but I don’t see that linkage. Aside from the “fear cushion” and “$20 per barrel speculation” comments. By an large, oil was going up. And Americans, on the whole, with their desire to drive whatever they want, as fast as they want, as far as they want, for as cheap as they could get it, helped the process along.

By IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward

February 19, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Ahhh, yes, the author of “Getting Through These Dark Times” speaks out:

{{{{I got into journalism not to be a journalist but to try to change American foreign policy. I’m a corny person. I was a dreamer predating my journalistic life, so I got into journalism as a means to try to change the world. I didn’t get into journalism by any means to win a Pulitzer Prize or do anything like that. Back then, I was obsessed with what was going on in Bosnia. I went over there because of that; I tried to get a job at NGOs … But I didn’t wait this long [to work for a candidate] because I was such a hardcore reporter. It was because I never met anybody worth doing it for before.}}}}

Great, so even an airhead can get a foot up in America, horrible dark place that it is.

But the real bonus of this post; the ditz happens to be serving as senior foreign policy advisor to Barack Obama.

Yikes.

By getalife

February 19, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

Obama/Patrick have pulled the biggest punk job ever.

These two knew the American people are so gullible, all they had to do is spew hope for unity, use MLK’s and other people’s famous words, use opponents policies and win elections.

This would make a great movie:

The Punking of America.

If you want to see how Obama will govern, google Governor Patrick. He is a disaster.

I am waiting for Obama to make Patrick his VP to complete this scam.

By Proud to be RW-(the original), a proud American

February 19, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Little newsie name jacker has been a busy, busy, girl while the adults have been working to put food stamps in the hands of the whole newsie “family.”

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Another day, another “borrowed” quote for Obama

So the Messiah doesn’t really have any words of his own and his wife hates America unless her hubby gets elected.

By IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward

February 19, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: So how is your side in the war on terror taking the loss of Pakistan?

Hahahaha.

What a nice big fat foreign policy victory for Bushie too, brought Bhutto’s party back together and shazam, democracy.

al Qaeda got routed in Islamabad and now they are fixing to get routed in Wisconsin, hehehe.

It’s a Two for Tuesday.

Watch in awe as all the Repugs trudge through the snows so that they can vote against Ku Klux Rodham.

Bwa.

By Paul

February 19, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

getalife

Obama made a good political move - saw people were tired of a failed Rep Congress, a failed Dem Congress and many failures in the Rep Administration. With much of the failure a result of political narcissism. So people wanted to get something done.

Interesting, isn’t it? McCain was just about out because of his “compromises” with the “enemy” and his “abandonment” of “core party principles” yet who did the Reps select for their nominee? McCain.

It’d be enjoyable watching that one play out - Obama calling for unity to effect change while McCain trots out list after list of change legislation he was a major player in, through unifying with the political opposition at the risk of his career.

Reps might just retain control of the White House, yet.

By AmVet

February 19, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

Hi Paul,

Good points at 5:45.

Reps really did NOT select McCain. At least the party power brokers, who if they had their way, would have swift boated him straight to hell. (Nor the religious troglodytes) And though the Rove smear machine has been pretty much shut down, it was obvious that the “conservatives” wanted anybody, and I mean ANYBODY, but him.

And that is why this outcome on the GOP ticket has been so damned enjoyable. I never would have thought it possible. But I have to give America credit where it is due.

The American voters - Independents, Republicans and Democrats - selected McCain. And in doing so, rubbed the “conservatives” very long noses in the dirt.

And that Ann Coulter, among others, is having a pig, is absolutely the best entertainment she has EVER provided!

By Bill Clinton's Mount

February 19, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

What you fail to comprehend, Congressman Lewis, is that we have to win in November. We HAVE TO win. Everything I care about depends on our winning.

By getalife

February 19, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

Yes, they need a policy for Pakistan and Cuba now .

I wonder how many States Obama would win without the repudlickers voting for him.

She is running against them, the corporate media, the scam of Obama and still will win.

Amazing.

By W stands for waterboarding

February 19, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Good points. However FDR had started putting Americans back to work before the war. He started building the roads, highways and bridges that got this country back on track. Now WWII was icing on the cake but the country was recovering thanks to his road package. On the oil companies the war didnt cement it but is sure helped them. When Dubya took over gas was about 1.29 nationally. Now we are at 3.00 nationally when really there should be no reason for this. The speculators everytime there is a little anything drive up the price. We had a refinery blow up here yesterday and because of that oil topped 100 a barrel today. Now think if you made minimum wage 5.75 an hour, that means you would spend half your hourly earning on a gallon of gas. So it does have an effect.

By Paul

February 19, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

AmVet

And a hearty hello to you, too!

I see your point about the power brokers - but at the end of the day it was the Republicans who selected McCain. Call’em what you will - rank and file, moderates, moderate Republicans, conservative Republicans but not of the kind given the publicity - and you are correct, that’s what makes it enjoyable.

But I wonder - does it seem Rep rank and file are more able to break with the power brokers than the Dem rank and file are, doesn’t it? Many are stating there’s not a lot of diff between Obama and Hillary - I’m not so sure. I think Hillary’d be a lot more hardcore pragmatist than some would want to believe. It worked for her husband. Then again, Hillary seemed to have the majority of the party power backing - and here we are in a dogfight with the people saying “hold on a minute…”

I thought of you a month or two back - saw a 60 minutes piece on Joel Osteen - minister out of Houston, young guy, took over when his dad died, real positive, upbeat. No hellfire, no negativity. Not stuck on dogma, gets hits from “mainstream” theologians as he’s not hardcore enough for them (do we see some parallels with politics here?). Anyhow, I tuned into his show Sun morning - just a decent message on how to take care of yourself and others - what many here - you - N-GA - Goldie - @@ and others have alluded to as the quiet message of faith and Christianity. Reminded me a lot of Religious Science or Unity. Just thought you’d find it worth your time.

By getalife

February 19, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

Ann has been funny but rush wants Jindal as VP.

Hilarious.

By IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward

February 19, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Hear that rumbling?:

{{{{For months now there has been a grassroots effort, called “Think Condi 08,” to build a groundswell of support for making Rice the Republican vice presidential candidate.}}}}

{{{{The excitement Democrats have shown for Obama and Clinton has produced record turnouts in many of the party’s primaries and caucuses. Republicans have generated no similar level of enthusiasm.}}}}

{{{{By picking Rice for the second slot, McCain would make this a historic election for Republicans, too. He’d also link the GOP to a surprisingly long line of blacks who have been a political party’s choice to be president or vice president.}}}}

{{{{She was this nation’s first female national security adviser and the first black woman to head the State Department (though Rice would carry the baggage of Bush’s foreign policy failures). While Clinton holds herself out as the Democratic candidate with the most experience and Obama campaigns as the candidate of change, Rice would embody “experience” and “change” as the GOP’s vice presidential nominee.}}}}

Bwa.

By Paul

February 19, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

getalife

I see Texas lets any registered voter vote in any primary. Reps can ask for a Dem ballot and Dems for a Rep ballot. So with a well-enough organized effort - or in an extremely tight race as Texas appears to be, voters could manipulate the selection of the candidate from the opposing party.

That strikes me as flat wrong.

By AmVet

February 19, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

I’m reasonably sure that the GOP’s hardcore base is terrified that Ms. Clinton will sit in the Oval Office.

For several reasons.

Misogyny is probably a significant factor here in the Morn Belt, but more practically the “faithful” are absolutely cr@pping their undies at the prospect, because they fear, like her husband, she will do a decent job.

And even many Republicans now see and admit that even the arrogant Clinton was a better president that this current debacle disguised as a CIC.

So relative to this past 7 year disaster, any woman or black man who as a Democrat especially, could see us through some years of relative sanity would simply push the blathering teeth-gnashing sheep over the edge.

And that is a bad thing how?

By Proud to be RW-(the original), a proud American

February 19, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Lot’s of states are like that. Georgia is one and Wisconsin is open and allows for same day registration.

Texas is stranger than just allowing crossover voting. You get to vote twice there, once during the primary portion and that evening in the caucus portion. I really think they do that to cut down the effect of crossovers. Lots of people might want to select the other guy or gal’s ballot to be manipulative, but they probably don’t want to go caucus with the other sides supporters.

By Paul

February 19, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

W for waterboarding

I can see many of your points. Economics and opinion seem to be synonymous. What’s the line? Ask two economists a question, get three answers? True about WPA and such - you can still drive on many of those roads. I have family members (ahem, from the stories I recall) who benefited from those programs - there was no other work.

On the oil thing - given all the factors at play, I think attributing much of the rise to Pres Bush is giving him a little too much credit. I think prices were forging ahead - Iraq nothwithstanding. I definitely agree with the speculator assertion - this is one area where I haven’t a shred of data - in fact the SEC says “all is well” - but there’s just a gut feeling that says a small, small group, leveraging lots of money, bidding a commodity - maybe it’s time for me to reread a Ludlum novel (small groups of secretive, wealthy individuals manipulating events for personal gain) - he wrote the Jason Bourne novels - a couple were made into movies with Matt Damon.

And yeah, about people making min wage or just over. Even double. Work an hour just to get to and from work? Read an article, said nationwide a person needs fifteen bucks an hour to afford an apartment. I’m getting ready to launch on my “do something other than college prep to get our kids ready for the job market” soap box.

By AmVet

February 19, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

Paul, I’ve seen Osteen.

He scares me.

Just kidding. But the guy’s a walking botox commercial, isn’t he? (I know, I know. He’s naturally high!)

As you know, I personally have little if any use for charismatic religionists.

Their track record is simply too deplorable as WAY too many have used Jesus’ name to line their pockets with filthy lucre.

And even if this guy is actually one of the good guys, it’s an uphill battle in this country now for televangelists.

And as it is a free country, I believe if people want to believe the most cockamamie mythology that can be dreamed up, fine. Go for it.

Just keep it out of public schools and the White House puhlease.

By W stands for waterboarding

February 19, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You would have thought after Enron we would have learned our lesson on speculators. Oh i dont blame Bush wholeheartedly for the oil crisis,he has some hand in it but didnt cause it. I said after Katrina when the oil companies saw we would pay 2.75 it would never go back down, and it didnt much since then. And you are right as long as we feel the need to drive SUV’s and Hummers it will never go down. If you go to Europe you dont see any large vehicles in their driveways because they have been paying heavy for gas for years, we are just to slow to learn from them.

By Paul

February 19, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

AmVet

One of the pieces I saw on him (media really seem to band together for stories) said when his book hit number one he didn’t take a salary any longer from the church. Also said that when his dad passed on and he met with the church board someone made a point about financial transparency - IRS had hailed Billy Graham’s setup as a model - and he asked “are we doing that?” When told “no” he said they needed to do it - and go one better.

Saw his house on 60 minutes. Solid middle class. Nice house. Then again, you get a lot more house for your dollar in Houston than in a lot of places.

I’ll go along with the “keep it out” as far as proselytizing. But if a kid wants to read a Bible, or a Koran, or a Book of Mormon in school, then let’em. And as far as the White House - I dunno, I think it’s kind of good to have someone in there who doesn’t think they’re the Supreme Power of the Universe!

By Proud to be RW-(the original), a proud American

February 19, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

The only thing worse than a Democratic President is a black one, or a woman.

By Is it Duh or RW? I'm IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

It’s over before it begins

Night y’all.

By getalife

February 19, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Just another obstacle but she will still win Texas.

By Proud to be RW-(the original), a proud American

February 19, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

AmVet, we only have your word that you actually served. It’s well known that most veterans are Republican. What makes you different?

By Promise, always (from here on) IN THE NEWS

February 19, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

Why change?

Night y’all.

By Luckoduh

February 19, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

I would not be just a nuffin’ My head all full of stuffin’ My heart all full of pain. I would dance and be merry Life would be a ding-a-derry If I only had a brain

By Proud to be RW-(the original), a proud American

February 19, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

It’s a little late for newsie the name jacker. I would have thought Blowhard would have been above that 7:00, but I guess not.

Sad little loser.

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Looks like Bill is bringing a good bit more baggage to the campaign. Hillary has to get the money to loan herself from somewhere I guess.

Giustra, 50, has since put his plane at Clinton’s disposal at least a dozen times to raise money for charity, his wife’s presidential campaign or himself, according to U.S. flight records and spokesmen for Clinton and Giustra. The Canadian businessman has become one of the largest donors to the Clinton Foundation, pledging half his future minerals earnings in a way that ties the foundation’s success to his own.

{{{{{“If former President Clinton is making decisions about where to put the charitable efforts of the Clinton Foundation based even partly on where he’s likely to benefit personally, or see his friends benefit, then that clearly is a classic conflict of interest,” says Aaron Dorfman, executive director of the National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy in Washington.}}}}}

By IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward

February 19, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

“Blathering, teeth gnashing sheep.”

That coming in the midst of a bunch of teeth gnashing blather.

Hahahaha.

Always frisk the liberal first, right?

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This is a name jack by the sorry mofo IN THE NEWS:

{{{{By Proud to be RW-(the original), a proud American February 19, 2008 7:00 PM The only thing worse than a Democratic President is a black one, or a woman.}}}}

I know RW just as well as the rest of you do and he would never say or think anything like that.

But a piece of crap like IN THE NEWS would.

Do you approve of this type of racist conduct, AJC?

By I'm IN THE NEWS,Who's RW now?

February 19, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

One picture is worth a thousand words

Night y’all.

By Proud to be RW-(the original), a proud American

February 19, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

Well, I certainly didn’t post anything about that, but the only thing worse than a black President is a lying black one.

By IN THE NEWS Is A Namejacking Coward

February 19, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this

How stupid is this rat POS?:

{{{{ABC News’ Jennifer Parker and Eloise Harper Report: Sen. Hillary Clinton at an economic roundtable discussion at a restaurant in Parma, Ohio, suggested wealthy investment bankers and hedge fund managers on Wall Street aren’t doing real ‘work.’}}}}

{{{{The former first lady’s daughter, Chelsea Clinton, works for New York-based hedge fund Avenue Capital Group.}}}}

There is no one these klanners don’t hate, even their own child.

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